Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the
Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name
is Tim Duckworth. Two days, two podcasts. Well, I don't
really know when this is getting released, but you know,
we'll figure it out. But we've been cranking them out,
you know, because we got a lot of stuff to
talk about. We're back in the saddle. I love it.
I know Tim loves it, even though I don't. I
don't get the vibe that he's loving it. I got
the vibe that you were loving it yesterday. You know,
you had your shirt off. You were just free flowing
like you're ready to go.
Speaker 2: I got a busy day today. I'm just.
Speaker 1: Today. You're the one with the heart out.
Speaker 2: I got the hot at today. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So about thirty five minutes, we'll try and crank through
some more of the topics I know on the on
the most recent episode, we hit on GG poker buying
the Basic, and then we hit on laptop gate, which
I think we were corrected on Twitter saying whatever, same thing.
So we hit on that sort of stuff. We got
a couple more items that we do want to tackle
and get our thoughts out there about and discuss first
things first, WSP Paradise is back. It was announced recently.
They announced it, and then everything happened with laptop slash, Salvergates,
the gd Poker bought the ws A p and it
almost feels like that people kind of forgot about WSP
Paradise for a little bit. I'm assuming that momentum will
will rebuild for DOBASITPY Paradise. So we're gonna hit on that.
We got Scott sever winning Player of the Year, which.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He had one of the most incredible summers ever, if
not the most incredible summer ever, and it just feels
like no one's talking about It's just like like, is
there an even an article on WISP dot com. I
don't think so. I mean they bounced it via a
tweet at like twelve thirty four in the morning.
Speaker 2: Yes, they did do that. I have Patrick Antonius announced,
I have Chuck Todd Durant preview Paradise Paradise Cherokee preview s.
Yeahswer to you is no, it was not an announced.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Patrick Antonio's he's in the Hall of Fame.
Now we're going to hit on that. I know that's
that's somewhat old news. But hey, listen, this is our podcast.
We do what we want. We're going to hit on it,
and then of course we do need to touch on
the PGT. The Poker Growth Tour is entering the second
half of its season. That second half of the season
starts with Super High Roller Bowl slash Super High Roller
Series slash Super High Roller Bowl Series however we're calling it.
That is coming up in a few days time. Tim
is going to be traveling across the pond to Cyprus
to be at the events. Maybe we'll be able to
get some live pods from the floor. We'll see, we'll
see how things work out. That would be lovely. So
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It's back, baby, and it doesn't look like it's going anywhere.
I don't know if you listened to dat this week,
this recent one. I only listened to maybe fifteen twenty
minutes of it, but there was one line in there
from Daniel Legrando when he said, wisbe Paradise is not
going anywhere, And the way he said it was like,
if you want to contend with us in December, meaning
gg poker slashsp then good luck, have fun, because we're
doing this every year and we're doing it big, as
evidenced by the fact that in the second year it
returns to Atlantis in the Bahamas with a fifty million
dollar guaranteed main event or I should say sorry, super
main event. Okay, the largest tournament guarantee ever this year
it does come with a twenty five thousand dollars buy in.
What are your thoughts over there when you saw the
news fifty million.
Speaker 2: Huge, massive, and then I saw that it came with
the twenty five K prize points, so I lost a
little bit of interest, to be honest. Now, my first
thoughts was, is this pocustars? You know, this is a
very PSPC ish Nothing wrong with that, honestly, Look, not
a fan, not a fan of the battle between them
and WPT. I'm not a fan of a twenty five
k main event, you know. But they're doing what they
want to do. I don't think they're going to miss
the guarantee. We said that all last year that they
wouldn't miss a single one. They didn't. I feel the
same this year. The series is pretty pretty damn robust
for uh, you know, the client tell they're targeting, so
it'd be fun. I wouldn't mind going to to be
on site, but you know, I can't really afford some
of these buyans, so I'll have to skip it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So speaking of some of the buyans, I mean,
of course we mentioned the twenty five thousand dollars super
main event. I'm just going to hit on on what
the schedule is and then I'll give some thoughts as well.
And Tim and I'll talk about this a little bit further,
But you have a WSP Mini Main Event five million
dollar guarantee, that is event number one, twenty five hundred
dollars buy in. You have a Triton Million. That's something
else that is coming with the Bisbee Paradise this time
around is that they have partnered with Triton. So this
Triton Million is it's a million dollar buying in the
format of one VIP slash businessman, slash invited player, I
don't really know how to call them, and then one
pro and those people kind of like team up together
in a way like if you're the VIP, you can
invite one pro. Each person puts up five hundred thousand
dollars and you play. So the buy in is listed
as two times five hundred thousand dollars. You have a
pot limit Omaha Super high Roller one hundred K. You
have the gig Masters Online Championship with two and a
half million guaranteed, twenty five hundred dollars. There Dealer's Choice
Championship twenty five K Deep Stack Nolaman hold them five
thousand dollars, the Triton Main Event for one hundred thousand dollars,
the PLO Championship for fifty kbs AP Super Main Event
that we already talked about, twenty five k buying, fifty
million dollar guarantee, Paradise Pot Limit Omaha, ten thousand dollars
buying Mystery Millions Online, five million dollars guaranteed, twenty five
hundred dollars buying the GG Millions, Nolamit Hold Them Championship,
five million dollar guaranteed, ten thousand dollars buying nolam Ath
hold Them high Roller, fifty thousand dollars buying the Super
Saver one million dollar Invitational, one million dollars guaranteed in
that one that is a free roll slash invite only event.
And then you have the closer a Nolan hold Them
Bounty tur about five thousand dollars buying. So yeah, I
mean you touched on the buy ins, Tim, I mean,
what are your first thoughts on what they're presenting here?
Lowest buying being twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: It's big, bring you money, as simple as that. Like
I touched on before, that they're targeting a certain group
of players. They're targeting obviously people coming and playing a
big package of events. I think they may have missed
on some things, like the twenty five k Dealer's Choice
I think is going to not work at all. There's
no there's no other mixed games to really convince mixed
games specific players to come. But sure, yeah, Daniel Togron
to Seande josh Aria, they're going to be there, they'll
play it, but you're not really getting any of the
mixed guys, the mixed only guys out there. So I
feel like they could have gone without that and just
added another twenty five k no limit hold them heads
up tournament or something, you know, like something that fits
the majority of the player pool that are there. We
all know Ohamas as expensive, so you can't really have
three hundred dollars buy in bracelet events. You need to
start at that twenty five hundred price point, and even
who knows, maybe that's a little too on the low side,
but it's a good schedule for a lot of people
out there, and I think it's going to just have
as much interest this year pending a few keys, and
although we haven't heard anything, that's the most important thing
to make this successful is basically doubling down on the
incentives they gave players, So there was lots of free rooms,
there was lots of packages given out. There was also
those I guess you could call it rake back promotions,
the bracelet promotions, the cashers promotions, stuff like that really
incentivize people to go. And that's how they hit all
their guarantees. Now, if none of that comes back, will
they hit these numbers? You know, we always talk about
the first year is always the best year. It's the
second year is the hardest. We found that in our series.
You know, other tours have acted the same way. So
if they don't bring if they don't bring those you know,
incentives back, will people want to go to the Bahamas?
Or will they want to go to EPT Prague, or
they want to go to WPT World Championship. Will they
want to just stay home for Christmas? So I think
that's pretty important and hopefully the quicker they get that
stuff out, the more likely they can stop filling rooms
and making sure they hit all these numbers.
Speaker 1: Well, one of the incentives is already out there, and
that is the Super Saver one million Dollar Invitational. So
this takes place on the looks like the final day
of the series. So the series does run December sixth
through nineteenth. The Super Saver Invitational kicks off on December eighteenth,
so second to last day there. So this is a
one million dollar free roll tournament that is open to
bracelet holders who participate in the Super Main Event. So
if you have a WSP Gold bracelet, it sounds like
it doesn't matter where it comes from, online, live, GG
poker here in the States, whatever it may be, and
you play the twenty five thousand dollars buying Super Main Event,
then you qualify for this million dollar free roll tournament.
It's also open to one hundred K package early bird purchasers.
Now what this is is for a limited time only.
This is all listed on doubysip dot com, So if
you guys want to find this stuff, you can go
over to WISP dot com slash twenty twenty four slash paradise.
So it says limited time only early bird one hundred
K Paradise package. It's limited until November first. So if
you deposit via the doubsip plus app secure your Passion package,
deposit ten thousand dollars by September thirtieth, and ninety thousand
dollars by November first, that's option number one or just
one hundred thousand dollars by November first. This is very
confusing how this reads Atlanta's front wire of one hundred
thousand dollars by November first. Free fourteen nights sweet room.
I mean, I've been to Atlantis. It's expensive as all
hell to go down there, so free fourteen nights is good.
You of course get entry into the one million dollars
Super Saver Invitational. You get VIP airport pickup at NASA Airports.
So I mean, listen, if if you're one of those
people who are gonna go down there, you know, like
a lot of the players that play in these high
roller events, whether it be Triton, whether it be the
PGT or elsewhere, you should probably just do this, you know,
get your money in and then get the free fourteen
nights room. Of course, you get into this million dollar
free roll, So there's that. And then it's also open
to to GG Poker package winners, so the Super Saver
Invitational bracelet holders, who participate in the Super Maine hundred
K package, early bird purchasers, and GG Poker Package winners.
So that's printy enticing, I think for a lot of
people to go down there. Now, I don't fully know
about the price points. I mean, it's clear that they're
tacking a certain area of the playing community, right the
high rollers. I'm assuming with a lot of this stuff
and a lot of these events, a few of them
at least you have the GG Masters Online Championship, you
have the whereas its Mystery Millions Online.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming WSP Super Main Event is going to have
online stuff in it as well. Maybe even this WSP
Mini Main Event will have online stuff. So probably have
a lot of online to live formation of these tournaments.
So I will say that it's probably not entry point
of twenty five hundred dollars for all this sort of stuff.
It's probably entry point if you can, you know, get
on GG poker and play. I don't know what they'll
they'll have there just yet. I don't know if that's
been announced. Apologies of it has and I missed it
to them, But I'm assuming there's gonna be a lot
of different avenues, different pathways for people to you know,
funnel themselves into these events, win packages, all that sort
of stuff. Like you I get some PSBC vibes from
the Super Main Event and about the supermin Event, I'm
kind of surprised that it was allowed to be called
the Super main Event, saying that now is different than
when this announcement first came out. This announcement came out
before GG poker announced that they were buying the ever
Speed yep right, obviously saying it now gg pokern can
do it at once. Okay, I mean the deal is
not fully complete. I think it's going to take till
the end of the year to like actually get approved
and all that sort of stuff. But for all intents
and purposes, it's done.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Super Main Event implies that it's better than the main exactly.
Speaker 2: I hate so.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't the was main event in the
summer is the flagship. It should always be the flagship.
Like so, so is this and I could be getting
people in trouble for something that hasn't been done yet.
I don't know. Is this assigned to the future of
ideas for a bigger main event. You're calling it the
super main Event. You have a bigger buy and there's
always been that that conversation, not that you and I
agree with it, but like, will they have a raise
that it be main event? Buy in. You know, ten
thousand dollars today is what it was ten twenty, thirty
years ago, et cetera. Like there's always that conversation. So
is this like a plan going forward? I mean, you're
you're coming out with a fifty million dollar guarantees. So
not that you're not that you're challenging the WSP Main
Event price pool yet, which is you know, almost pushing
one hundred million now, right, But I mean coming out
with fifty million, you're setting the foundation for this quote
unquote super main Event pretty lofty. So is the goal
to you know, eventually have like basically a second version
of the WSP Main Event that takes place in the
summer I at a Caesar's property for the next twenty
years according to the press release, like at Paradise. Is
that kind of the plan here? Or long term? I'm
talking long term? You know it's gonna obviously this isn't
gona happen this year, next year or the year after that.
You know, it's going to take five, ten, fifteen years, whatever.
So is that the plan here? I don't know. I'm
just I'm just throwing stuff out there.
Speaker 2: I think the plan is this variety in the scheduling
in the WSP brand. I think it was a little
bit of a failure to call it the super main event.
I mean, super is the wrong word. It should be
something related to the price like but I think they
I think maybe it's more of like, how do we
differentiate the main event from the main event? As in,
so there's a world where maybe next year we see
the WSP year, it may event be five K, you know,
something like that, where it's a different price point, a
different kind of style, so that then all three main
events are slightly different. I think that's where they may
be leaning towards more than anything else. But who knows.
I don't think that the Vegas one will ever be
twenty five K. I don't think. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I agree, you know, but what I'm getting at is,
does with the buy in, with the guarantee, with the
the marketing aspect of calling it super, you know, does
this in a way take some shine away from the
WSP main event. I don't know yet. I'm just this
is me just kind of working on some takes on
the fly in my head. I'm not sure where I'm
going to come out on this this all. I mean,
the man event is the biggest and the best, and
I think it will always be that.
Speaker 2: I don't think it would take anything off the luster
of the main event, the main the Vegas main event
is the main event, and I think everyone sees it
that way. It would take a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I understand that it would take a lot.
But if you were if you were the person who
had a lot to be able to do it, wouldn't
you do some things like make something named better than
the other thing, have a bigger buy, and come out
with a massive guarantee the quarter. That also doesn't mean
live poker.
Speaker 2: There needs to be more of that. Think of the
history the fifty was it fifty two years or something?
Fifty five years of the ten thousand dollars event?
Speaker 1: And you can talk never you could never battle with history.
Speaker 2: You can't battle with history. And like maybe in fifty
years we can have a discussion, but right now it's yeah,
it's not happening.
Speaker 1: I'm basically just all I'm doing right now is I'm
planting the seeds. I'm asking various questions that maybe in
ten years you and I can get back on a
podcast someday and see if we're right or wrong is
all I'm doing, you know, because this obviously isn't going
to come anytime soon. This twenty five K Dealer's Choice
is certainly the ugly duckling of the schedule, Like it's
just it sticks out like a sore thumb to me.
I mean, it's just it's there. It's at a price
point that's very high. So I'm I mean, it's clear
that this whole schedule was attached or was made to
attack a certain clientele of player, right, and then you
just kind of shoehorn that one in there. And I
don't know how many of the players that you're going
after also play a twenty five K Dealer's Choice. It
just it seems a little bit weird to me.
Speaker 2: It will probably get forty players because you'll get Danny
Tang registering for it and stuff like that. You'll still
get an okay turn out. You're not going to get Sure.
You're probably not getting David od b Bacon. You're not
probably you might get Senheimer. You're not getting the the
mixed game guys, you know, that's.
Speaker 1: All you're gonna You're only going to get the mixed
game guys who also play the big no limit stuff, correct,
And it would be my guest. I mean, unless there's
probably there's probably some people that might go some mixed
game people who are well versed enough in No limit
hold them and want to play the Super main event
that might go like you might get those people too, right,
So I think it's interesting. I mean, they're clearly going
big from this schedule. I mean, it's it's out of control.
It's fifteen gold bracelet events. I mentioned the two Triton events,
the Tradon Million and the Triton Main Event. Not only
do you have that fifty million dollar guarantee, you have
three five million dollar guarantees, you have a two and
a half million dollar guarantee, you have a one million
dollar guarantee that that's super the Savior Invitational. So, I mean,
it's just it's robust. It's certainly headline grabbing where I
sit right now, and this is going to start to
lead into our well, actually, first before I get into that,
the partnership with Triton Poker is is interesting. You know,
it creates a bit of a three headed monster in
a lot of ways. You know, you obviously have GG
Poker and WSP who have been partners for you know,
several years, and now GG Poker recently you know, acquired
or at least announced the acquisition of the WSP brand,
and now they are partnering with Triton to bring that in.
So you're probably gonna get all the all the Triton
players you know are going to be going down there.
And we know how big and crazy and exciting and
fun and competitive those fields are that happen in all
the different Triton events around the world. So you're going
to have that one thing that this has done. And
I mean, from where I sit right now, Tuesday, August thirteenth,
nine forty six am, they won December.
Speaker 2: I mean, na get out of here.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, let's go here. I want to hear your argument.
Speaker 2: I mean, what why have they won December?
Speaker 1: Well, can you tell me where the WPT is? Hello,
WPT wake up please. I don't know if you saw,
but your biggest competitor has dropped the largest live tournament
guarantee in history and it's coming out with an absolute bang.
Has pardoned with Triton all this sort of stuff. Where
are you guys, They're coming, They're waiting, they're coming, They're planning. Okay, Yeah,
where huh huh? Like where are they? Look, I always
had all we've had for months now are dates.
Speaker 2: That's fine. Dates is okay. I've blucked it off on
the calendar. It's good. I know when it is. Look,
we know what's going on, and we obviously have some
behind the scenes knowledge though you know, we don't really
need to discuss, but you know they're going they're both
playing chickens with each other. All.
Speaker 1: First of all, I have zero behind the scenes A lot.
If I had some behind the scenes knowledge, I would
I would have some insight here. But I have nothing,
And that's why I'm wondering where the heck is WPT.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Look, look, WBT announced that dates when
like March or something. They announced it very early.
Speaker 1: Way early.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is fine. You put a luck Now we know.
The next step is wait, let's see what WSP does.
They announced their big chop. So once they announced their
big chop, WPT and I go, okay, now we have
that info, let's figure out how schedule. Are we doing
a twenty five million guarantee? We're doing a fifty million guarantee? Yeah,
we do.
Speaker 1: Questions to you, are what's their guarantee going to be
If you had to guess what was it last ya
forty and they missed, it's more than two million.
Speaker 2: It's going to be forty again guaranteed. In my mind,
I don't think they're going down. I don't think they
I don't think they can go down.
Speaker 1: Well, that was the whole argument that we put forth
last year, is why you don't go twenty five exactly? Yea,
then you can't go down. Like we've had this problem
within the PGT, you know, like we're like, once you
do something, you can't put that cat back in the bag.
It just ain't happening. And if you do it, if
you put stuff back in the bag, it looks negative.
People come at you for it. You know, they wonder,
oh my god, is stuff really bad? Behind the scenes,
because you know, they're not going as big as they
once did. That's why you just gradually build up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're probably planning that stuff. They're also planning
the side events. You know, it'd be very smart for
WPT to stay completely away from the high rollers and
and like we've kind of done on the PGT, focus
on that price point of sub ten K. I think
that is a really big price point in America. And then,
and the reason I say Bahamas hasn't won yet is
because I think we know first hand the amount of
our players. And I've had out one of our players
speak directly to me and said and ask, like I
would I want to be I'd rather stay here, so
like then go to is regardless of all the stuff
that's there.
Speaker 1: Like well, and for that player, I'm going to give
you fifty Triton players that are going to Paradise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might. You can obviously change his mind. There's
ways to change his mind. He's just saying that. I
think the I would say ninety seven percent Now, that's
that's ninety seven percent of the player pool that's targeted
for Bahamas that lives in America outside of Florida would
be more interested in going to Vegas than going to Bahamas. Now,
doesn't mean that ninety seven percent only goes to the win.
You know, there's ways to incentivize them to bring that
percentage down. But there's definitely going to be players that
just like I ain't going to Bahamas. Doesn't matter. You
can't convince me otherwise. I am ten minute drive to
the win. Why do I want to go spend twenty
k in accommodation and travel expenses in the Bahamas.
Speaker 1: So well, if if GG Poker you know, comes out
with you know, we've qualified x hundred players, you know,
all this sort of stuff, if they if they take
you know, kind of stealing from what the PSBC did,
what Poker Stars did with that event, you know, really
really putting those qualifiers in the spot like where you
saw like you know, some random guy from a random
casino is playing his first tournament buying over two hundred dollars, Like,
you know, they put that stuff out there, and like
they kept doing it, and they did it with like
three hundred qualifiers that that draws in the pros, right.
I think it was a couple of our PGT players
who basically said, like, you know, for every one amateur
slash recreational qualifier type player who like doesn't belong in
these high roller fields, it draws in like six to
seven pros. Like that's how they kind of equated, you know.
So so yeah, if they really go gangbusters with like
putting it out there, who are these qualifiers are? How
they got in? Like this guy won for one dollar,
you know, he normally plays you know, one dollar flipping
gos on GG poker, blah blah blah, like this is
his story here he is like, you know, put him
out there like that really starts to invite you know,
the sharks to come feast on the minnows down there
in the Bahamas. So I'm interested to see how that
marketing element plays out. I'm always very like I mean,
I do a lot of marketing within the industry, and
I am always drawn to like what other places are
doing with their marketing. So I'm very interested to how
they're going to approach that. So looking forward to that,
I have one question for you, sir, Where does phil
Ivy go? Does he go with his Triton boys or
does he go with the WPT overlords. Where does he
go in December?
Speaker 2: Buddy? He does both? I think he confidently does both.
Speaker 1: If you're WPT, don't you have to force him to
stay in Vegas? But we know how that goes.
Speaker 2: Send me the contract, let me read it. See if
that's even part of the contract. I doubt it is.
Ivy Chase process all summer. I think he'll do it again,
and obviously he has. He's trying boys so he'll be
in Bahamas and then you'll see him play like two events,
three events.
Speaker 1: Yes, So if he's going to Bahamas, which I also
agree that he's going to go to the Bahamas, you're
getting ivy. You're for sure getting hellmuth. You're getting to
grow on you. How is WPT winning December? How what
are they going to do? Let's wait for the schedule,
have another marching on the breaks of the tournament.
Speaker 2: They lose points for that. Like, I bet we see
the biggest win field, whatever last year's number was, we
top it this year.
Speaker 1: Well, the biggest win field is the WPT Prime.
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm saying that whatever we had last year,
I think we beat I bet you we see another
massive prime event bigger than last year. And if if
the guys over at the wind Slash WPT make a
good enough schedule, you know, with some really good events,
I bet you we see massive fields in those two.
I'm bullish on the wind being just in people's backyards
and not having I agree.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're in my backyard, you know. I'm I'm
gonna try and play stuff at the wind you know,
I mean, I I obviously have other reasons why I
can't go to the Bahamas. I mean, I'm not taking
my whole family there. It's just too expensive, you know,
playing these types of buy ins, et cetera. It's just
difficult for me, right, you know, I'd rather just go
to the win. Yes, I think in my shoes. And
this might be something where if people are on the fence,
I don't know, maybe they consider this to some degree.
But like having been to the Bahamas so often with
the PCA over the years, like I don't it's not
a draw just to go to this destination, Like the
destination isn't a draw for me, which which is is fine.
You know. I think a lot of people out there
will enjoy going to the Bahamas. They get out of
bad weather, all that sort of stuff. I totally get it,
you know, just for me having been there, like the
destination itself doesn't sell anymore. So I'm just curious. I
guess if there's a lot of other players out there
because the win is now like the premiere poker destination.
Like you go, you play at the Win, the property
is absolutely incredible, you know, it's just it's top notch
playing there. It's it's amazing. It's you know, it's it's
in Las Vegas, which I think a lot of people like,
but it's also like it's at the end of the strip,
so you're not like jam packed in the middle. You know,
it's at this particular event WPT at the Win is
in December when the weather isn't you know, one hundred
and fifteen degrees outside, which I think also people like.
So so that is a big selling point for a
lot of people. Of course, money talks at the end
of the day, so you know, fifty million dollars guaranteed,
I think there's gonna be a lot of people that
travel down there. I just if I'm if I'm WPT
and I'm the win, I'm very much going within every
man focus, meaning I'm catering to I'm catering my schedule
to the population of poker players that play four and
a dollar to five thousand dollars tournaments. I'm packing my
schedule with that sort of stuff, probably keeping the five
thousand dollars price point pretty selective. And then I just
have the ten thousand dollars main the world the World Championship.
You know, I really push the accessibility, I push the
everyman I try and pump out, you know, massive massive
fields you mentioned, you know, having the largest field at
the win ever, you know, trying to do stuff like that.
You know, have like a massive six hundred dollars opener,
which they did in the past, but like bumping up
the guarantee for that, you know, bumping up the guarantee
for the one thousand dollars WPT Prime Championship, stuff like that,
you know, and then just probably doing something that like
filters people into the ten k. You know, I think
there's gonna be a lot of people that come out
for that price point that whether they win money or not,
you know, sell some action, all this sort of stuff.
They kind of take their shot in the World Championship
for ten k, and it's it's a bit more palatable,
it's a bit more accessible to go that route. I
would I would almost just entirely scrap high rollers, Like
I wouldn't do anything above five thousand dollars except for
the WPT World Championship.
Speaker 2: You still need to do the alpha stuff, but you
do it at the very back of the schedule because
you want to you want any centimize people to come
from Mohamas to play the ten k, Like how do
I get author Materrosen to come and Makita Beziakowski come
play the ten k and then we have a twenty
five and one hundred like on the off days. That's
how you get them to come.
Speaker 1: I mean, why why do you need them to come?
Speaker 2: You don't bet like I think you should offer it anyway,
it's going to fill up. They had good numbers lost
here in those ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but last year you weren't going up against the
WPG paradise.
Speaker 2: It is ended by then at the end.
Speaker 1: It seems like a natural fit to me to partner
with the PGT to some extent. I should just say
av Poker and Triton Poker and Triton are all in
bed over there. You know, maybe we do some PGT
events at the win, you know, entice our players to
get in there, chase some points.
Speaker 2: You know, you have my number, Adam, You're probably not, but.
Speaker 1: Just call your your country made over there and let's go.
Let's go get Savage on the horn. Have you just
had him on the podcast of the day? I mean,
come on, yeah, I mean that's that's what I would do,
you know, And I'm not a fan of what they've done.
With with Alpha eight, I think they need to scrap
the brand or put it back to what it was.
Speaker 2: So I like the name. I just yeah, the name
is good.
Speaker 1: The branding was good, The idea I think was good.
But like trying they're basically trying to take that brand
and then shoehorn it into now like twenty five k's
and stuff like just have everything be WPT like a
WPT high roller. Why can't it just be a WPT
high roller? Like what you know? Why has it got
to be a trifecta, quadruple, quintupled alpha eight, Like I
don't think it's just really confusing to me. I mean
another option that that I don't think is on the
table at this I don't know. Now that I say
that it is August thirteenth, but move to January question mark, Yes,
I mean right like yes, I mean that obviously has
to probably do with like we know. I mean, at
least I know because my wife works in the casino industry.
I know how these things work. We've been around the
industry for long enough that convention space and and the
amount of convention space that they need for an event
like this at the wind is not easy to come by,
and this stuff gets booked out long in advance, so
like I'm sure they can't just call up the win
and be like, hey, we want to move to January
and when it's like, ah, funny, we've been booked for
three years in January. You know, like like that's just
so that's the hard part there.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is this is the lost year of
the deal, right, so maybe they actually have a plan
to move to January.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is three years, three years.
Speaker 2: Maybe they have a plan to move to January and
they already have that space bookvill twenty twenty sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be interesting also now that you bring that up,
because yeah, it is they I remember they announced a
three year deal that whatever happens this year I think
points to like where the relationship is going to go
going forward. Meaning if they scale back and do like,
let's say a twenty five million dollar guarantee, that that
might be like you know, they're kind of just cutting
their losses in in a way, being like, hey, let's
put out a guarantee that's big that we can hit
not cost any money, and then maybe this relationship doesn't
go any further. But if they come out with another banger,
like you know you mentioned do forty again. Then it's
pretty clear to me that this relationship is going forward. Right,
So maybe I'm reading a little bit too in the
lines there, but but listen, the WPT World Championship schedule
has not come out yet. I've been asking them many times,
you know, kind of where's the schedule, where's the schedule,
where's the schedule? So we'll see. I'm assuming it's going
to drop. I think it's going to drop this month.
I don't know when. And then once that happens, you know,
we'll talk about it a lot. Maybe we'll even get
Matt Savage back on to discuss it. I'm going to
be very interested to kind of put WSP Paradise and
ws AP World Championship Schedule is basically by side and
be like, okay, like you know, what can we expect here,
Like who kind of won this event that event? You know,
what are the what are the overall vibes that we're getting,
Like is WPT going to lean into the every man
accessibility stuff or are they just going to try and
really go head to head with what WSP is doing.
I mean, who knows, right, we don't know yet because
the schedule is not out, so so let's see and
let's see how it goes. Moving on, we got to
hit on Scott Sever winning WSOP Player of the Year.
Of course many of you listening tuned in to our
daily WSOP shows. Sever won three gold bracelets three not
many people have done that. He now has seven total bracelets.
Not many people have gotten to that amount either. Four
four hundred and three POY points for sever Michael Rocco
closed out the w so P strong. He won the
what ten K six max events in the final days.
He ended up finishing in second place with threey eight
hundred and three points. Jeremy Osmas, who made seven final tables,
ultimately did not win a bracelet, but had many deep runs.
He had three thousand, six hundred and eighty six points.
Interesting just about the top three quickly is that I
think many people probably assume that Ozma's finished second just
because of the way that it was the race that
was happening between him and Stever, everything that was talked
about with Ozmas, how many final tables he made, all
that sort of stuff, But it was actually Michael Rocco
who had a pretty damn good wsop overall, I do
want to hit on kind of some honorable mentions, but
I'll get to that in a second, just after we
get done talking about some more sever stuff. He'll turn
forty in April. So I know we had this conversation before.
Is he going to get in the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: He has three seven total, he has a WPT title.
Obviously high stakes cash is there. You know we talked
about all this sort of stuff before where it's like
now sever enters that that conversation, So is he going
to get in? Does he get in right away? Like
all the who's He's well, Jeremy Osmas number one?
Speaker 2: Who else?
Speaker 1: Josh, Josh Harrier, Nick Shulman. Remember remember the conversation we had,
we had sever or Shulman?
Speaker 2: All Right, you know what if we would have if
we would have voted now, who.
Speaker 1: Are the finalists this year? Madam? Yeah, so I mean
they're they're likely, They're not that they're likely to be
back as finalists, but they'll be top of mind. Osmas
wasn't a finalist this year.
Speaker 2: Here's my take. Ready, if we voted now, Siva would
get in.
Speaker 1: But recency bias, yes, but.
Speaker 2: We have WSP Europe. We have WSB Paradise, we have
WSP Vegas, we have one hundred and forty five. Actually,
we have one hundred, nearly two hundred more bracelet events
between now and when you cost your vote. Shulman could
rip off three bracelets. Osmus could rip off three braces,
Aria could rip off three braces. Civa could win another three.
So there's a lot that can happen in the next
two hundred bracelet events before the current Living Hall of
Fame members need to vote. So yeah, it's it's it's
still very open. I think it's Siva if it was today,
but it could be any number of people, you know,
in two hundred bracelets time. I know it's a soft
answer to it. I think we have to realize the situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, listen, I tend to agree with you. I'm
just looking at the list of finalists for this year.
Of course, Patrick Antonio has got in and we're going
to hit on that next. But josh Ari on there,
We mentioned him, Barney Bobman was on there, Miami, John Sernudo,
Ted Forrest, Kathy Lieber, Mike mattis Ow, matt' savage, is
Hei Shinberg, Bill Smith. So some, if not all, will
you know, make it back next next year? You know,
it's kind of how they carry over. But Armie Ostmas
isn't on there. Nick Shulman, I believe will be forty,
so he'll likely make this list.
Speaker 2: He turns for there was a list going out of
like who turns forty next year? Well, we should, we should.
I was actually going to create something. I just haven't
had a chance.
Speaker 1: But so Phil Galfond is currently thirty nine years old.
This is according to Wikipedia and January sixteenth, So.
Speaker 2: I don't know when missed forty. Like I didn't understand
that part.
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't it when they say, hey, we're voting,
then you have to be forty?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, is that? But like to your point is
that May first? Is that June first? Is that July first?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: You know, like what's but Galfon should be in there?
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, who do you think is the favorite right now?
I have no he Man, I mean seven Shulman is
a lot closer than you think.
Speaker 1: No, I and I think we recently talked about that
during one of the episodes when I when I brought
it up during the World Series of Poker, because I mean,
there are a lot of similarities there, you know, a
lot a lot of bracelets. Both have a WPT title,
sever does win in the bracelet category. Both have played
high stakes cash, right, I mean, I think I think
nowadays sever plays more high stakes cash than Shulman does.
Shulman is like kind of fully in at least from
what I can tell on the tournament grind. But in
that regard, like you know, Shulman's got a Triton title,
Shulman's got PGT titles, et cetera. Like Sever is a
little bit more void in that area. So how do
people wait that sort of stuff? Then? Like, I don't know,
because it's voted on by the living Hall of famers, Right,
So how much of how much of Shulman being out
there as a commentator and as good of a commentator
I see? Is like how much does that weigh in
their mind? How much does the popularity aspect weigh in
their mind? Right? So I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, pocularity is the biggest, the most underrated waiting
in all this voting, and it shouldn't be, but I
think it actually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I think popularity has trumped at times,
even most recently, Patrick Antoni is getting in like I
would have I wouldn't. I do think he's popular, yes,
but I would have thought that maybe josh Arie got
in because he's I think I think he's more out
there in the spotlight, et cetera. And going back to
when popular, when David Oppenheim got in.
Speaker 2: There he's super Oppenheim would be super popular, yes, popular,
but like not, he's not in the forefront of everyone's mind.
So like when you say everyone, do you mean the
voters or do you mean the public?
Speaker 1: Well, I think public perception might play into some voters' minds,
is what I'm getting.
Speaker 2: If you don't think I think it's all like who
do I want in my my my boys club?
Speaker 1: I disagree with you and I have well I won't.
I won't name names, but people have asked us. People
have asked us who they should vote for. Yes, yeah,
that is public. That is not them thinking of their
own stuff like that is them, like you know, like, hey,
what are the arguments for this person of that person? Whatever?
Speaker 2: Like that is say Matt Savage every time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I always say side, but I have also
said for a long time. You do say, yeah, I
see I I also say, Patrick Antonius, I guess, I
guess just a thought that popped in my mind. Does
anything change in regard to the Poker Hall Fame now
that GG Poker owns the b possibly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean do they.
Speaker 1: Have more people get in there?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: You know, how how does like do they even address it?
Does it just carry definitely.
Speaker 2: Needs like a like a commissioner or something, and it
needs it does need a shake up. Maybe that's adding
more people. Maybe that's changing the requirements, like it's forty
two young. I would say maybe yes, But I guess
we'll leave it up to them. You know, if I
was a betting man, I'd probably say nothing would change.
Speaker 1: I've always thought, and I think I think you and
I might have talked about this. If not, I think
you'll agree. But at the live version of the WSP
in the summer, I've always thought there should be a room,
a section, a hallway, whatever it is that's basically the
basically a museum largely about like the Poker Hall of
Fame have a bunch of busts. There have nice displays
with photos and then paragraphs underneath where people can like
walk through like you walk through in a museum and
you say, okay, hey, this is so and so this
is the history here. You know, I'm gonna move on,
like almost like a whole little room that people could
enter and just that was it. There was a path
to walk you know, there was various exhibits. I know
that that's me probably in my whole pipe dream mentality,
but like I think that there is so much rich,
rich history as it pertains to poker and then specifically
the WSP that you could have that sort of thing
as a big exhibit at the World Series of Poker.
Speaker 2: And we have it. We have it at the Poker room,
pictures on the wall. What's funny you say? That is
actually I discussed with that, you know.
Speaker 1: But that would be wouldn't that be a cool exhibit?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I as you know, I've been collecting things
in case something like this happens. I have it in
a box at the office, he stored away, ready to
pull out if needed. But my I had a grand envision,
a grand plan once to actually convert some of our set,
like you know, the say the outside of that table
be like the back of the stand where people you know,
where there's nothing. Turn that into like some kind of
hall of fame display. You remember back at the Rio
in the Brazilian room where there was when we had
the bracelets in the little plexiglass boxes and they were Yeah,
so take that concept, but for hall of fame stuff.
So I could put hypothetically, let's talk about some of
the cool stuff I have. You know, you know Doyle
Ronson's last seat ticket that he ever played. You could
put that in a box, little story about it. You
could take negran Who's signed button from his fifty k
in put it there. You could talk to You could
talk to Matt Waxman and ask him would you want
to donate your bracelet for for the six weeks, so
you get people to donate stuff just for the exhibit.
Speaker 1: While also that would be just quickly that would be
like one cool exhibit portion is like the bracelet over
the years, Yeah, like the first one, the second one.
Like people can like literally walk down and be like,
oh this is when it changed to this is when
it like that would be still.
Speaker 2: Do stuff like that, and like I would build it
into the set, but you know, I mean spending a
lot of this money on the set, do we we
don't own the Hall of Fame, so we're kind of
stealing the idea, you know, are going to rob people
the wrong way. So we never did it this year,
but like it was always, it was discussed internally very
so for a very limited amount of time.
Speaker 1: A little bit of a side story, but this is
kind of about this in a way. So when the
when the World Poker Tour first was going to have
the final tables at the big Esports Arena at Luxor,
I was working with the World Poker Tour at the time,
and one of my big pitches was that have you
have you been in that arena the hyper x Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So, like you walk in, there's like the first little
area where there's some gamings off, there's like some you know,
there's basically like a check in desk, et cetera. And
then you go kind of down like a little hallway.
There's double doors that opens up to like this what
is it like a little it's like a little it's
like a little rotunda area, you know, with like an
elevated ceiling. There's actually a balcony up top where people
people that are up top on the second floor can
look down and then there's like another hallway and then
like all this basically leads into like the big arena. Yeah,
my vision that I pitched was to create like once
you hit, like once you get past the checking desk
and hit these like double doors basically create the history
of the World Poker Tour as you walk from the
check in desk all the way into the arena and
then like you know and like that, so like as
you're entering, whether you're a player or a fan, like
you just start really getting that vibe, that energy, like
you feel the history building, and then it culminates with
you going into the arena and either playing or watching
that final table. Same sort of thing like I could
see for the WSP, Like you walk into like where
the final table stage area is, and like it's you know,
there's a there's a walkway or a path where you
can go where you can see the the different exhibits.
You can you can pause and you can you know
be like oh, hey, like this is this is Doyle
Brunson's like first win, this is the winnerfold, like this
is that this is like all that sort of stuff
I think would be pretty dope. So yeah, so now
that now that gg Poker owns it up. See Michael Kim,
if you're listening, he's want you want this idea, you
can come to Tim and I and we will happily
put it together for you. All right. So anyway back
to that, because we are off tangent Scott seever, so
he'll turn forty in April. We talked about that, We
talked about his time to get into the Hall of Fame.
I think he will eventually get into the Hall of Fame.
I just don't know if it'll be next year first year,
because yeah, but seven WSP bracelets for him now, he
won three this year, one WPT title. He's got almost
twenty seven million dollars in live tournament earnings, high stakes cash.
He certainly has stood the test of time. I think
he's respected by his peers for sure. So I've another
question about Scott sever And I heard someone make a
comment to me recently. I forget who it was exactly,
but the comment was about twenty five K fantasy and
how much sever will go for next year. And my thought,
initially without having any information right now, is so let
me see he went for thirty seven dollars this year,
which based on his performance, three hundred and thirty four
points the third highest point getter is a criminal underspend.
But if he goes for what eighty ninety dollars next year,
do we know Scott Severs going to play a full
schedule this year? We knew, Yes, we knew ish so quickly.
Just one reason why, like we weren't in on Scott's
sever even though he had put out there that he's
going to be gunning for, is that we drafted him
a couple of years ago. He actually won the was
it the twenty five hundred dollars tournament early in the summer,
and he told us he was going full on for
the whole series, and he, you know, he basically won
that tournament early and then kind of went back to
cash games. So we were just like, you know, how
much how much is he really going to go? Right,
even if he says it's he really going to go
full on, because it's a freaking grind, we all know that, right. Obviously,
he went the whole thing, He went to the wall,
he went all out, and he won three bracelets and
he won fasby Player of the Year. So are we
going to get WSP Player of the Year contending Scott
sever next year, bracelet bets all that sort of stuff.
Scott sever next year or are we not? If we're not,
he should not go for ninety dollars, right, and then
somebody will vastly overpay if he's just if he was like,
this is the year, I'm all in, I'm gonna do
this thing. I'm going to dedicate myself to these tournaments.
I did it, I achieved it. I got the Player
of the Year banner. You know, great, Now I'm going
to go back to playing high stakes cash when the
cash games are crazy during the summer, and yeah, I'll
pop in here and there. And not that Sever shouldn't
be drafted, because he should, you know, It's just it's
a volume game at that point. So I just going
into next year, I would probably wonder if he's going
to be overvalued or undervalued just based on what we
can expect from him. So would you expect Sever to
go like all out like he did this year again
next year or maybe in the next like three years.
Speaker 2: Let's say, I mean he made a commitment to do
this this year, he had some bets. We have to
just know that he's doing this next year or not.
He may be the him and Jason Mercier may be
the peak. The number one drop picks in unreliability when
it comes to WSP because they will play cash and
NonStop like they don't care that much unless they actually care,
and that means like bets or side bets or whatever
they have. So yeah, if I was drafting Siva, I
would people, hey, hey, buddy, what's the plan this year?
Like I need to know, because yeah, he could be
worth one hundred and twelve dollars or we had twelve dollars.
Speaker 1: Had that plan before and he even like he told
us he was all in.
Speaker 2: But I need to know the bets. I need to
know how much he has in play. I don't care
like I need to know your dollar, your net worth,
spend percentage allocated to bracelet bets with Texas mic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's tricky, and you're not always gonna
get honest answers or the full answers you know that
you need, so then it makes things a bit tricky.
But I'm gonna say that right now, he's not gonna
be the same Scott sever that we saw this year
in terms of volume. Of course, when he shows up
Scott Severs as one of the best players in any
field that he plays. You know, don't get me wrong there,
But from a volume perspective, I'm gonna say that this
was more of a one and done type of thing. Also, like,
are people going to be lining up to bet Scott
sever after he just achieved what he achieved?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's like they got burned and they're out.
Speaker 2: I can't repeat it, though, Yeah, but you can't repeat that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I wouldn't. I wouldn't bet against
Scott's sever in repeating it. So he might, you know,
he might be surprise next year in fantasy where like
somebody gets him for one hundred dollars and then you
know he ends up playing only like twenty events and
everyone like that that team is pissed, right, you know.
So so yeah, that's just a tricky spot there. Anyway,
moving on to Patrick Antonius, he was inducted into the
Poker Hall of Fame, in my opinion, in extremely deserving inductee.
Happy to see Patrick Antonius, one of the absolute legends,
one of the absolute goats in poker, getting into the
Hall of Fame. I think twenty twenty was the first
year that he was eligible, and as far as I'm concerning,
he should have been nominated or in a finalist every
single year. I don't know if he was exactly, but
should have been. And yeah, I've always thought Patrick Antonia
should get it, get in. So it's good to see
him get in. I think he was very happy, very
thrilled about being able to get in. You know, it's
one of those things where in a way it's it's
you know, it's great to see that your peers, you know,
these fellow Hall of Famers were affect you in that
light to put you into this very elite club of people. Also,
you know, on the Hall of Fame front, you know,
there's not many Europeans in there, so getting another European
and then Patrick Antonia's being a finished getting him in
there as well. He doesn't have the tournament resume that
a lot of others have, you know, he doesn't have
all the bracelets, the WPT titles, all this sort of stuff, right,
He's you know, he's been playing a lot of the
Triton stuff of course, but Antonia's mainly plays cash games,
and in that regard, he's as far as I can
tell still an absolute beast plays the highest stakes around,
you know, all summer long he's playing four thousand, eight thousand,
three thousand and six thousand and five, ten whatever the
heck it may be. And then just recently he was
at that Triton Cash game festival playing you know, one thousand,
two thousand and one, two five. I don't know what
it was, pulling these savage bluffs with ten high, like
just absolute banana's goat shit from Patrick Antonio. So it's
good to see him in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: What say you? Yeah, I just checked the Finland all
time money list. He's on top. I wouldn't have actually
expect to be. He's crushing it well, I mean on
top by so much, just twenty three million. The next
up you high helping nine million. I didn't think it
would be such a big I think on the.
Speaker 1: Big scores in the recent years, with all.
Speaker 2: The trades, yeah over the Trent and stuff. Yeah. I
think we said during the series that he was going
to get in. I was basing that all on popularity
and the cash game side of things. Very worthy to
get in. Good just you know, you made a really
good point. Good to see European get in, trying get
rid of these the heaviness of American players in the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: But well, Americans are just the best poker players. But yeah,
I don't know what you're I don't know what you're
talking about. Disagree absolutely, okay.
Speaker 2: But no, I mean I got no problems with it.
I would have still liked to see some others get in.
We should have more people getting in, but that's up
for another day, all right.
Speaker 1: So congratulations to Patrick Antonius for getting in there. Poker
Hall of Famer. Now, I love to see it. I
wish he would play more tournaments like WSP stuff, you know,
because I think he would. He could put up some
numbers there. But of course for him, it's all about
crushing the cash games and he certainly.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see him next week, maybe.
Speaker 1: I would guess he might.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Would he go down to Bahamas Paradise.
Speaker 2: Possibly if there's games on boats they remember.
Speaker 1: Yes, trust me, I do remember. All right, you mentioned
might see him next week. That would be for Super
High Roller Series, slash Bowl Slash Bowl Series.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't really know what it's it's supposed to be
called I don't know the official name, but yeah, so
Super high Roller series is kicking off in a few
days that is capped off by the Super high Roller Bowl.
I expect numbers to be pretty big overall. I think
you an article the other day that said sixty players
are more than sixty players.
Speaker 2: Sixty three confirmed players for the series though, right, not
for the series, sorry, not for the ball for the
series that includes some PLO only players. Obviously, people may
have dropped out, people may have added, you know, had
some players reach out to me the same. Yeah, I
think I might go now, so I don't know. I
think sixty two was sixty three was much better than
I thought heading into this. The key here is that
all the events are freeze outs at this stage, so
that you know, we're not going to.
Speaker 1: Have a stage putting that in there for sure because
it might change.
Speaker 2: Is that why? Well, we have two mystery bounties that
are freeze outs, and that doesn't make any sense to me,
and I feel like they may change other day. But yeah,
they're all freeze out events, so that does help. I
guess the quote unquote whales feel a bit more comfortable
playing these big of my own events and does it.
I think so. On that list, I saw a lot
of names. I had no idea who they were.
Speaker 1: Okay, but did you like, I like, did you look
at those names? Compare them to a trading list, because
there's a lot of people that play Tritons that I
have no idea who they are, and they're in there
blasting and they can put as many bolts as they
want those things.
Speaker 2: Look, I mean, I'm just make it one re entry
if anything. But this is what they want to do,
so we'll we'll support it, and we'll see how it goes,
see what the players think, and you know, who knows,
see what the numbers are. Maybe we get some people
trickling in closer to the three hundred k buying and
firing that and they also the hundred k before it.
Speaker 1: Was Tony G on your list.
Speaker 2: I think I'm at liberty to say who's on the
list unless they gave me the okay to say that they're.
Speaker 1: On only because on the Trading Cash Game Festival, Cypress
was brought up with Cypress is where this series and
Super highrollerbar are being held, and Tony G said that
I think he said that he would come with Leon.
I'm assuming that's Leon Supernecks. Oh yeah, they were talking
about it.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe we get them in so.
Speaker 1: So, you know, could could be some people like that.
I think at the time Ivy was in the game.
Speaker 2: Uh, Robert, I heard he's coming, but that he was
not in the original list, but I did hear he's attending,
so that's kind of exciting.
Speaker 1: I would think Ivy would be there. I would think
Robber Young will probably be there.
Speaker 2: Where was the cash game Montenegro sh fly Away right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would guess we'll see a fair amount of the
of the Triton guys. You know, I'm not sure how
many of them will end up coming, but but we'll see.
I I do think that it was it was probably
the right move. I'm not probably. I think it was
the right move to move super High Rollable out of
the States. You know, maybe we lose it a couple
of players that might have played here in the US,
but it's just hard to run an event that size
in the in the US given the current landscape. So
I think these type of events, you know, it's just
better served elsewhere in the world. And this Cypress destination
nor Cypress at was it? Merrit Diamond Royal, I believe
is the property. So Merritt has several properties, and I
think this is the biggest and best, most luxurious one.
Speaker 2: Got it. I'm so confused, but I'm gonna figure it
out once I got that.
Speaker 1: I went to one years ago with Mickey Doff. Shout
out Mickey Doft when I think it was a WPT event,
but like a full tilt event as well, like the
WPT full tilt something, and it was at I want
to say merrit Crystal Cove, which is one of their
like lower scale properties, but still extremely nice like that,
if that makes sense. Not to downplay how awesome that
property was, because it was great. It was right on
the water. You walk right out, you know you could,
You're in the sand, you're swimming in the Mediterranean. Food
was great, people were awesome, weather was awesome. So so yeah,
a lot of fun there. So I'm a little bit
jealous that you're you're getting to go to this one.
Speaker 2: It's tough. If it's tough, man, I'm flying in a
die early. I got to die off. I'might have to
take a boat out on the Mediterranean. Who work twelve days?
I'm going to go to Greece for three days, tourists
fly back.
Speaker 1: What's on the schedule?
Speaker 2: All right, we're kicking it off with some hold them events.
We're going to have as a little bit of a
weird schedule. But there's three to twenty five ks eight max,
then a seven max and a six max. Okay, we're
going to do a fifty K seven max. We're gonna
do one hundred K eight max. All these events two
day events played down to a final table streaming the
next day on Poker Go. Then we have a mystery bountie.
Speaker 1: By the way, shout out to about those streaming. I
think it's Jeff and Brent on the commentary who we're
going to be waking up at the ass crack of dawn,
maybe even when it's still dark out because of the
time difference, so.
Speaker 2: That no, it's not that early.
Speaker 1: Good luck, guys.
Speaker 2: What are you talking them?
Speaker 1: How early is it check in? How what's the time difference?
Speaker 2: Eight nine hours, eight am, eight am specific time.
Speaker 1: You think Jeff Platt wakes up at eight am, Brent
for sure, because he's got kids. I get it.
Speaker 2: Jeff does chef's up early. By the way, these are
actually the lay is like six hours anyway, after that,
we have the three hundred k Super High Rollerball that's
three days of poker streaming every day on poker Go.
And then to conclude the series, it's not being streamed,
but we have a twenty five KPLO, a fifty k
PLO and then the twenty five k PLO Mystery Bounty.
So lots of fun events. Ten events schedule, big, big, big,
big prize money going to be awarded over in North Cyprus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's it's great, you know,
Like I said, I think moving this event over to
a different location outside of the US is the correct move.
So gonna be big. Are there a lot of US
PGT regulars heading over there to play?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Would you say?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you the two biggest names. Are you ready
for this? Jeremy Osmas I saw he was selling action
on poker Stage. Let me check you right, they're heading
there real quick. On that, I know we're probably gonna
so well. Yeah, they're the two big American PGT players
that are heading over that currently rank fifth and sixth
on the PGT leaderboard. Another name confirmed outside the top ten,
thirteenth place, Santosh Suvanna is heading over. But yeah, Aram
Osmas they're coming for I think they just one or
two results, they'll be on top of the leaderboard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so just quickly. Both Aramzobian and Jeremy Osmas have
action listed for this series on poker steak dot com,
so you can get in there. Jeremy does have the
Super High roller Bowl itself three hundred and six thousand
dollars buying in total. He's got twenty five percent listed.
He's sold just over half of that so far. So
if you get in there before that event kicks off,
you can get action of Jeremy Osmas. And based on
the summer that he just had, why would you not have.
Speaker 2: He's definitely he's definitely due to finish third.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know he's also due to kind of
win one of these things. Yeah, Jeremy has the Super
High Rollable, the three hundred K. He also has a
fifty K on there. He also has one hundred and
two K on there as well, and then aram Zobian
has a bunch of different events on there, a couple
twenty five K bullets, fifty K bullet, and the hundred
K is on there as well. So if you guys
want to get action on those guys, then I would
head on over to poker steak dot com. There's also
some Poker Masters action that's starting to be listed. That's
that's to come in September, so not too much on that.
But again, if you want to action on some of
these elite players, you can have on over to poker
steak dot com. So the leaderboard for the PGT, you
mentioned that if these guys have a big result, they
could move to the top of the leaderboard. The leaderboard
currently is Michael Rocco up on top eighteen hundred and
thirty five points, follow followed by excuse me, Jonathan Tomayo,
the twenty twenty four WSP Main Event champion. He's got
seventeen hundred and thirty points. Jesse Lonis is third seventeen
hundred thirteen points, Daniel Negraanu sixteen hundred and sixty points,
Jeremy Osmas is in fifth fourteen ninety nine. Then it's
a Ramzobian in sixth, Dylan Wiseman in seventh, David Coleman eighth,
Jordan Griff who finished second to Tomio, He's in ninth,
and then Kristen Foxen is in tenth place.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could see a bunch of these names in
the top ten heading over there. We're definitely gonna see Ozmas.
I'm not sure on Jesse Lonis. I know he's in Florida.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe these guys get some pomo and yeah, get
out of the horse.
Speaker 1: I would guess we see Dylan Wiseman. Do we see
Dylan Wiseman?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think we will.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see Aram for sure. David Coleman, I would
guess is going he No, he.
Speaker 2: Was out and then he was in, and then he
was out and then he was back in. So I
don't know what he's done.
Speaker 1: Well, he also usually puts action up on Poker Steak,
so I'm assuming if.
Speaker 2: He's also skipping pokemases, I believe. I mean, why he's
gone to Australia to play WBT fucking three K main
event in Australia.
Speaker 1: Have fun with that.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the kangaroos, buddy.
Speaker 1: Will we see the Foxes? Do they travel the Europe?
I think Have they played Triton events and stuff?
Speaker 2: Oh? Maybe, I don't know. I feel like we could
see Victor blom well, yeah, like like he was not
on the list. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I like, can we see Leana nine hundred? But he hasn't.
He played some Triton stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, the the big fifty five on Stars
is under way that day, so he well it's not
w coop yet, So that's what I'm saying, Like, maybe
he's just like I need to lock down the WOP.
Speaker 1: Well, we could get Victor Blom, like you said. And
if we get Victor Blom, I'm guessing we get Michael
Rocco because those two were like going to the hip
during the diacopy hanging out together. You mentioned roommates. Yeah,
you mentioned Santos, Brian Rass. Do we get him, He's
a could Brian Kim. I think we'll get Brian Kim,
Nick Seal Shulman.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about Shulman. He's
he's a wild card as far as i'm.
Speaker 2: Big Hooney was in and then I think he's out now.
Speaker 1: But too much, too much club and for Big Hunie, he's.
Speaker 2: Got to prepare for the next July fourth party.
Speaker 1: Do we get Jared Blesnik No chance with the plow stuff. Yeah,
even with all the ship talking he was doing about
the Nola and hold him, guys, he's not gone. We're
definitely gonna get Adrian Matteo's I saw quote on him.
I saw quotes from Ben Heath, phil Ivy. Our guess is, yes,
we should get the Finns Elis and Yoni and whoever
else there's.
Speaker 2: There's two Finns confirmed, Yoni and a guy that had
never heard of Aku Nistu or something.
Speaker 1: He's he's a big finish Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: They were confirmed, but that's all I can remember seeing.
Speaker 1: What about Sammy Sippolo.
Speaker 2: Didn't see his name on the list, Jonas Cronwalder didn't
see his name on the list. I would.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna get Sergio Aido. No,
he's oh, he's in Okay, Yeah, he's just like a quote.
He's been on like a freaking foodie tour.
Speaker 2: In preparation, in preparation for Cyprus.
Speaker 1: The ones that I'm wondering about are like these big
trading guys, so like Danny Tang obviously Paul Fois, those
types of guys. We're gonna we can get those guys
to cross on over to to play this series. Or
Jason Kohn, for example.
Speaker 2: Not sure. Yeah, those names were not on the list,
wouldn't surprise me. I mean, obviously I was looking at
a list of reservations that were a couple of weeks ago,
so a lot can change in the last two weeks.
I mean, maybe we have one hundred people that are registered.
So I guess we'll see once we Childwick kicked the
tour off. Didn't see his name. I mean I would
probably see Chidwick. We probably see Petangelos in. Yeah, we've
probably in. We probably see Sean Winter, Seth Davis is in.
Isaac Hackson. I can't remember saying his name, but I
feel like he's one of the couple names that I
would I feel like ik is someone that just I.
Speaker 1: Kind of I kind of lean that they're going to
get in, even if they might not be on a
list that you saw or whatever. It's feel like it,
you know, in eric'sidell, I think is probably gonna come
and yeah, we'll see. I mean, if if there's like
Christoph Voegel saying, I think would certainly play, Ben Heath
is a good one because obviously he doesn't come over
to the States to play PGT events, you know, but
he'll play a lot of the trit and stuff. He's
obviously going to play this one. If we're getting Ben Heath,
if we're getting Nick Pachangelo, I'm guessing we're getting Orpen
Cogloo come over and play. So so yeah, it's gonna
be a good feel. Chris Brewer, we're gonna get him.
Speaker 2: I can't remember saying him made that.
Speaker 1: Actually, I would think we might get Brewer. I would
think we would get not Cho Barbara, although I'm not
really sure. What's interesting is that a lot a lot
of these these players that we are either going to
get for sure because we know, or we might get
like like a Jeremy Osmas for example, he's never played
super high rollable. Yeah, and a lot of these guys
have not played super high rollable. Maybe maybe there's somebody
like Jeremy who you know, is an American, right, and
he just hasn't played in the States because it hasn't
been something a tournament that he's viewed as valuable.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But now that it's it's over in Europe, the field
is going to be much larger. Maybe he views it
as a little bit softer, so he's going to take
his shots. Sell the action. It obviously helps to win
a boatload of money like he did at the World
Series of Poker this year, of course, so he's going
to make the jump to go play there, and then
a lot of these other guys you know that that
don't come over or at least previously haven't come over
to the US to play the Super High rolevel when
it was in the States, partly because of the laws
and the taxes and all that sort of stuff being
a hindrance. And then also just at the Super High
Rollable in the State, it's given all of that sort
of stuff is just it's harder to get a larger
player pool. So because of that, you know, you're gonna
get a lot of those guys that will frequent all
of the Trident stops, for example, come and then hopefully
play this series, hopefully play the Super High Rollable. So
I think that's that's really cool. I think we saw
that a couple of years ago when we did the
Super High Rollable Europe in Cyprus. You know, we did
what was it two installments of that. You know, you
saw a lot of guys that we wouldn't see for
the regular Super High Rollable stuff. So I mean big picture, like,
hopefully a lot of these guys get in there, they're
able to bank a bunch of PGT points and then
that then entices them to continue to chase that leaderboard
standing so they can finish in the top forty and
they can ultimately qualify for the million dollar free role.
I would love to see that out of specifically phil Ivy,
that's the one I want in the free roll, So
let's go. He had some results of course at the
World Series of Poker, he won a bracelet, So can
we get phil Ivy in the free roll? Can we please?
One time?
Speaker 2: Let's let's go.
Speaker 1: So after Super High Rollable Series, Slash Bowl, Slash Series Bowl,
also the debut of the new Onyx Club. By the way,
at the venue, we got Poker Masters coming up in September,
that schedule is out and then recently announced we got
the PGT Poo Series coming up in October. So it's
a pretty jam pack. Yes, baby, let's go.
Speaker 2: Is this?
Speaker 1: Are we still the highest PLO tight now but our
highest with tide for the highest But like Trenton didn't,
didn't do one hundred and twenty five kre some right,
not yet?
Speaker 2: Not yet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know not yet, you know, like I love
the trade stuff and it's just a matter of time
before it comes. But like I saw the WSP Paradise
schedule has one hundred k PLO on it. I know
Trenton did one as well. You're gonna have to raise
it one oh five next.
Speaker 2: Year, come on one ten, let's go. No, I should
just be WPT and make it two hundred and twenty
five ks Weeks said.
Speaker 1: Let's go, baby, No, that's that's cool. That's coming down.
The pipeline is there. I mean, I know we're still
a couple of months away, but is there a lot
of interest for that still, like, because that's a very
specific player pool that you always talk to.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think there's interest now that it's out,
and as we start approaching the timeline, I think we'll
gather some I'm going to do a little bit of
promotion while I'm inside press.
Speaker 1: You better be collecting emails, names, phone numbers.
Speaker 2: I'm going to I already plan it. I'm going to
give them the schedules, BUD schedules, a letter for the
ARIA wiring information, and then I'm going to write a
personalized letter inviting them to come play. Better tell and
give it to every everyone that plays the PLO.
Speaker 1: You better tell them whatut the free role? You better
have everything in there.
Speaker 2: I've got it. I've got it. I know what I'm doing.
I'm just saying my first radio.
Speaker 1: I'm just making sure. Let's go, baby, all right? So uh,
on poker Go starting in. When's it start? When's the
streaming start?
Speaker 2: It's on Sunday, right, yes, so what's that date? Am?
Speaker 1: Nineteenth?
Speaker 2: The first stream is the eighteenth or Sunday eight am
Pacific time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so on Poker Go, you guys can catch all
that action, of course, culminating with the big and bad
Super high rollerbrowl. I'm going to be tuning in every day.
I love this high buying stuff. I think it's absolutely incredible.
And yeah, that's all we got to talk about here.
Looking ahead next well, hopefully we can do some pods
while you're in Cyprus. Maybe you can grab some winners afterwards,
maybe we can jump on a phone call, whatever it
may be. I understand if audio quality may not be
the best, but we'll deal with it because we're going
on the road, baby, or at least you're going on
the road for this series. So it'll be good to
check in with some people over there, get a vibe
of what's happening, all that sort of stuff. And then
the kind of the biggest thing that I'm looking out for,
and I know we hit about it earlier, is I
want this WPT win World Championship schedule to come out
like I want. I want to see it, I want
to dissect it, I want to look at it. I
want to see how it compares to the way Paradise stuff.
December is going to be massive, of course, of course,
and that's what I thought I'm looking forward to. So well,
that's gonna do it for us. My name is Donnie Peters,
his name is Tim Duckworth, and we'll talk to you
guys soon.
Speaker 2: Thice Express