WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:06.240 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:10.199 Cole, I don't know if you're still in the newsroom. 3 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:13.519 I think that was what we would call a fire sale. 4 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:17.239 It looks like you don't want to know what the 5 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:19.679 internet has to say about this. I can't say it 6 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:20.199 on the radio. 7 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:23.800 It's not good. Yeah, I'll bet, I'll bet that is 8 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:28.399 a tough way for for the season to come to 9 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:31.000 an end. They still have to play. I think it's 10 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:32.240 eighteen games, but. 11 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:35.640 Whoa kicking teeth, my goodness. 12 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:38.200 Tough to see, tough to see teams, you know, go 13 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:44.159 really dissembled. Yeah, particular Boston. But wait till next year. 14 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:47.679 Training camp starts in September. I'm sure we're rebuilding, building 15 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:49.359 all that. So well, we'll see. 16 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:51.520 I just I'm gonna go get a pizza and forget 17 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:52.359 this even happened. 18 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:56.359 So yeah, that is a good game plan, very good 19 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:59.679 game plan, let me tell you, better than the room 20 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:04.719 the roof get going. No, yeah, there's still the Celtics 21 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:06.840 and the Red Sox, so we're we still have some 22 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:10.120 things to root for. But that's got a tough way. 23 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:12.879 It's tough for those three guys to have to head 24 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:19.239 off in different directions, scattered to the four wins. Thank 25 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:21.040 you for the counseling, Nicole. I appreciate it. 26 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:24.079 Happy to help anytime I feel like Lucy and Peanuts. 27 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:26.560 You know, therapy five cents, but you're good, I don't 28 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:26.959 have to pay. 29 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:32.000 Good night, have a great weekend, Nicole. Good evening. Everybody welcoming, 30 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.560 and I'm Dan Ray, the host of Nightside. Mike Templeton 31 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:39.680 is sitting in for Rob Brooks. Rob was not traded. Nope. 32 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.439 Rob is not working in some other radio station halfway 33 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:44.719 across the country. He'll be back here on Monday night. 34 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:47.200 Mike is just sitting in for him tonight, and it's 35 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.519 going to do a great job for us. We have 36 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.000 our Nightside News Update coming up. Four guests, all of whom, 37 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:59.040 well at least three of WM are are going to 38 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:02.439 talk about sub that all of us probably don't know 39 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:05.239 a lot about. And then one is going to talk 40 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.280 us at a forty five about a subject all of 41 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:10.240 us know a lot about, and that is how windy 42 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:12.319 and cold has been in Boston. So we're going to 43 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:16.039 talk with doctor Lee Richardson about swearing being linked to 44 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:19.039 increase pain tolerance. Then we're going to talk with a 45 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:22.960 cardiologist turned author about the dark side of organ transplants 46 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:24.919 and what to know. She wrote a novel about this. 47 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.599 Then we're going to talk with a consultant for a 48 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:34.599 trade association dealing with hygiene at and clean and cleanliness 49 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:38.159 at hotels about the ten birdiest spots in every hotel room. 50 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:41.560 And then we'll finish up with a quick weather recap 51 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:44.280 and also forecast. And I'll remind you coming up at 52 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:48.199 nine o'clock tonight, we have free tax advice from the 53 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:52.159 night Side CPA himself, Mark Misselback. He is joining us 54 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:54.800 again and he was here about three weeks ago. Any 55 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:58.280 questions you have about the upcoming tax season, Mark will 56 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:01.800 give you some free information, some pre advice, and free guidance. 57 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:05.479 But first I want to welcome back doctor Lee Richardson, 58 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:08.719 who has a doctor as a doctor. She's a PhD 59 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:14.280 in psychology, founder of the Brain Performance Center. Welcome back, 60 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:15.479 doctor Richardson. How are you. 61 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:18.680 I'm good and thank you for having me. 62 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:22.840 You're very welcome. So if this is an intriguing headline 63 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:29.639 swearing linked to increased pain tolerance and strength, well I 64 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:33.280 swear quite a bit, so maybe my pain tolerance is 65 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:37.000 better than I realized. What how did you figure this 66 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:40.400 one out? And what does it say about swearing? 67 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:46.439 Well, you know, I'm in Dallas, Texas, and when we 68 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.000 think about Dallas, Texas, what do we think about the 69 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:53.039 Cowboys and increase excessive swearing? 70 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:56.840 I think about I think about the North Stars. I'm 71 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.639 a hockey fan, so that's that's what I think about. Okay, 72 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:02.960 well you're talking about the Are you talking about the 73 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:05.439 football team that's almost as bad as the Patriots at 74 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:06.080 this point? 75 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:09.240 Well, now, now now you're going to make me swear 76 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:15.039 if you keep talking like, go ahead, no, But you know, 77 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:20.639 swearing evots in motion, and there's there are studies that 78 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:25.480 show that swearing actually reduces pain and that's because it 79 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:31.000 induces that fight flight or freeze that occurs in our body. 80 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:34.600 You know, when something happens and we're not sure how 81 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:38.439 to deal with it, kicks in that autonomic nervous system. 82 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:43.240 Maybe it kicks in those adrenal glands. We start kicking 83 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:47.560 out all that cortisol. We give that adrenaline rush, and 84 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:51.959 it's confusing. Do we fight, do we fight or do 85 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:55.079 we freeze? 86 00:04:55.439 --> 00:05:00.079 Yeah, so that there have been studies that show so 87 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:04.519 that if we let's say we stub our toe and 88 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:08.399 as opposed to saying, oh, corn flakes, we say something 89 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:12.439 a little more interesting. What you're saying is that when 90 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:14.720 that angers hits you, oh I stub my toe. Get 91 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:17.279 you know, you know what I could have said there, 92 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:20.959 that that would have taken our mind off the pain 93 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.240 and focused on our frustration. Is that really what you're 94 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:24.800 talking about? 95 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:28.920 Absolutely, because you know, you have to think about how 96 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:34.839 the brain works. People remember those taboo words better than 97 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:38.639 they do neutral members words that don't really mean much, 98 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.040 you know. And when we stub our toe or when 99 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:48.360 something happens that we don't like, we go into that 100 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:53.199 fight or flight mode and just whatever comes out comes out. 101 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:56.079 And I honestly I have clients that I work with 102 00:05:56.480 --> 00:06:02.120 and I think swearing is a way of emotional express Yes. 103 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:05.959 It is. And also it said swearing is indicates or 104 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:09.399 is linked to increased strength. How would that be? 105 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:14.319 Well, you know, it's interesting because working in the brain 106 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.879 performance world, you see a book with people that have 107 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:22.439 suffer from seizures and epilepsy, and when that brain gets 108 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:28.560 into that disregulated stake, the body kicks in the body 109 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:33.360 provides the survival techniques I had a nine year old 110 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:38.120 that the dad jumped on me and the nine year 111 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.720 old and said, hang on, Lee, he's going into a 112 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:44.680 seizure and he's going to throw you across that room. Okay, 113 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:49.800 I'm hanging tight, man. So you know, one thing I 114 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:53.120 think that we tend to forget about a lot is 115 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:58.000 that the brain and the body. It's one unit. It's 116 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:02.439 not the brain upstairs and the body downstairs. The body 117 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:07.240 keeps score everything going on in the brain. And it's 118 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:13.240 interesting to me because research also shows that swearing alleviates 119 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:19.839 alleviates not only physical pain, but social pain as well. 120 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:23.240 That's not a bad idea. When I was a teenager, 121 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.399 there was a fellow who was a baseball player who 122 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:30.680 I respected a great deal. He was an outfielder for 123 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:32.879 the Yankees. I'm not going to tell you his name, 124 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:35.279 but know him pretty well. And we were talking one 125 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:37.279 day and he said to me, you know, have you 126 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:40.000 started to swear? He was a very decent guy. And 127 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.600 I said, not really. And he said, well, you know, 128 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:46.920 he says, well I need to swear. He says, I 129 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:50.439 just say ice cubes. And he said that would be 130 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:53.079 a good habit for you to develop. Well, I said 131 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.560 ice cubes, probably for a couple of weeks, maybe a 132 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:58.319 couple of months, but then I eventually gave way to 133 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.800 the more interesting words. And I wish in retrospect that 134 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:05.439 I have followed his advice, because it would be great 135 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:07.920 if you had the discipline, the mental discipline, which he 136 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:12.759 had to and he got it. I admire him for 137 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:17.240 it and ice cubes. So maybe I'll try in my 138 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:19.959 later years here to make up for it and start 139 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:23.720 just seeing ice cubes when I get mad or get frustrated. 140 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:27.519 Doctor Richardson, thank you for explaining it, and you explained 141 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:29.959 it really well, and it makes me feel less guilty 142 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.919 for all the swears of I have uttered. But I 143 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:36.759 think I'm going to go back to ice cubes. And 144 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:40.320 so there we go, redeveloped that had you ever heard 145 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:43.120 anything like that? By chance of just you pick award. 146 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:50.440 It's interesting because for your listeners like history, King William 147 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:55.000 of Orange in England, he when he spoke to the public, 148 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:59.919 he used his native language, which was French, except for 149 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:03.799 when he was swearing, and he did that in English. 150 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:09.360 So he had his own funky way of saying ice cubes. 151 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:14.720 Yeah. Interesting, interesting, All right, Well, I'll never forget ice cubes. 152 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:16.240 And I'm glad I had a chance to tell you 153 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:18.799 the story. And I thank you very much for being 154 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:20.600 with us, and we'll have you back. Thanks so much, 155 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:25.320 Doctor Richardson, Thank you, Thanks Bubby. When we get back, 156 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:27.799 we're going to talk to a cardiologist, a different type 157 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:31.360 of doctor, but the dark side of organ transplants and 158 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:34.360 what you need to know. She's also an author. She's 159 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:36.960 written a book called Change of Heart, which seems like 160 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:39.320 it's going to be a very interesting what's called a 161 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:43.919 medical thriller. Christina Laporte, Doctor Christina Laporte will join us 162 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:45.879 on the other side of this break, and I remind 163 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:49.879 you you can always pull down from the web. 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This is Nightside. 172 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:15.480 We will be right back on WBZ ten thirty and 173 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:17.000 your am Dial Boston. 174 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:23.399 Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World 175 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:26.679 night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 176 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:31.200 Very happy to be joined by doctor Christina Laporte. She's 177 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:36.799 a cardiologist turned thriller author. We're going to talk about 178 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:39.960 this book Change of Heart, which has just come out. 179 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:43.399 It is a medical thriller and I haven't read it, 180 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.559 but I've read a little bit about it and it's 181 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:48.559 one that I think a lot of our listeners are 182 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:51.279 going to want to pick up. How are you, doctor Laporte. 183 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.519 I'm doing just fine. Thank you very much for having me. 184 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:55.679 You're welcome. 185 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:55.960 Mom. 186 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:59.600 You are a cardiologist, so certainly you were familiar with 187 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.679 things of the heart. Uh. And we want to first 188 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.440 talk about, I guess the dark side of organ transplants. 189 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:11.919 We just had a fairly well known organ transplant conducted 190 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:17.960 here in New England. They're starting to actually transplant modified 191 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:23.879 pig kidneys uh into patients, not having a whole lot 192 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:26.840 of long term success, but there have at least been 193 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:32.159 some patients walking out of hospitals. Is there a dark 194 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:36.600 side our people? I know that the theme of your 195 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:41.240 book deals with sort of the underbelly of people buying 196 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:46.799 and selling criminals buying and selling people's organs, and I 197 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:48.600 know that in other parts of the world has been 198 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:53.480 some pretty horrific suggestions about this. Is this on the 199 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:56.320 level when people, you know, need a kidney or they 200 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:59.919 need a heart transplant, how do we regulate that? 201 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:05.720 Well, I think that the problem is that we have 202 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:11.080 a shortage of organs, and whenever there is a shortage, unfortunately, 203 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:15.519 there's a black market that flourishes. Now, we could do 204 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.039 a lot of things. We have done a lot of 205 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:21.480 things to improve the situation, most of all for hearts, 206 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:25.320 specifically for arts, you know, which has to do with 207 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:29.360 the background for my book. For example, now we have 208 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:35.639 a way to transport hearts which permits which really widens 209 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:40.799 the scope of matching and transporting this organ In the past, 210 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:45.200 we were transporting the heart in the cooler, like you 211 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.799 know those black and red things, I mean white and 212 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:50.720 red things. You know you take to a picnic and 213 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.440 the heart will lasts only four hours. But now we 214 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:57.879 have it's called the heart in a box. And this 215 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:02.759 box has tubes with fluid that is warm and nourishing 216 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:06.279 and goes inside the arteries of the heart, the coronary arteries, 217 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:10.039 and the heart stops beating in the box and it 218 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:14.840 arrives warm and beady, and it can last for twelve hours. 219 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:19.200 So you can match somebody across the country and ship 220 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:22.000 it on the plane, which before you can do. So 221 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:25.240 we have more hearts that way. We also have changed 222 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:31.000 also the the way that we take organs. You know, 223 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:34.000 they in the past we could only take organs from dead, 224 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:37.559 brain dead people, but now we can take them from 225 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:40.559 people who have damage to the brain and the you know, 226 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:45.320 irreversible damage and they had the cardio circulatory arrest, but 227 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:48.759 they're not completely brain dead as by definition. So we've 228 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:50.919 done all these things. But the truth of the matter 229 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:53.840 is that it still is a shortage, and we could 230 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:57.320 do more things to prevent, you know, the illegal sale 231 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:01.240 sale of organs. There's been estimated there is one point 232 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.639 seven billion dollars exchange his hands in order to buy 233 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:10.279 illegally obtain organs. One thing we could do is to 234 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.720 pay the family and to pay the donor legally pay 235 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:17.360 of course, regulating you know a little bit. The fact 236 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:20.320 that you know, obviously you can't just kill your family, 237 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:22.320 you know, to sell organs there. 238 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:26.960 And that does you have to get us to the 239 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:28.639 theory of the book, and I want to sort of 240 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:32.320 weave it in here. You talk about the book deals 241 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:36.120 with an unsolved murder, and again we're not going to 242 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:38.879 give away the whole plot line, but my question is 243 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:43.840 is there how are the criminals getting organs at this point? 244 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:48.960 I mean, obviously someone you know, let let's say someone 245 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:53.080 who's riding a bicycle, uh, for example, runs into a 246 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:58.000 tree and and they are their own life support. Well, 247 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:02.799 the family can agree read to harvest the organs. Uh. 248 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:05.159 But but that's got to be done you know, at 249 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:09.120 a hospital by trained professionals. How can the black market 250 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.840 get even access to these organized And I haven't read 251 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.720 the book yet, but well, this. 252 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:19.200 Is this is just a background in the book, is 253 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:23.200 not really the main problem, meaning the main thing in 254 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:26.000 the book is really cyber crime, which is a more 255 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:30.600 modern way to to actually deal with this situation. But 256 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:35.399 there are criminals force people, you know, they're like slave 257 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:37.840 you know, people in the Third World or in China, 258 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.440 they had prisoners that they had political prisoners who were 259 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:45.159 not in prison for for for serious crimes. They were 260 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:48.720 just said, you know, not not going along with the 261 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.799 with the government, and and they were forced to make 262 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:55.679 organs against the will, so that's how they obtained organs. 263 00:15:55.679 --> 00:16:00.000 And of course the condition in which this this transplant, 264 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:08.919 soeldna probably not very very clean or you know exactly. 265 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:15.159 Yeah, yeah, this is this is bothersome. Is this your 266 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:17.399 first book? By the way, the name of the name 267 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:20.639 of the book is simply Change of Heart, and apparently 268 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:22.919 you have developed a couple of characters. It's called a 269 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.600 minor in medical thriller. Is this your first book? 270 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:30.320 No, this is the second book that gets published, and 271 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.320 I've written more books which are coming out. The first 272 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:37.000 book the name was Dissection, and I had the same 273 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:40.320 two characters. But both books can be read. Either book 274 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:43.399 can be read independently because the story is totally different. 275 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:46.679 I just could not give up my characters, and those 276 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:51.399 two characters I like him so captain, and I also kept. 277 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:56.000 A lot of very successful authors who carry on. I 278 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:59.039 think you're smart to do that, to be really honest 279 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:01.679 with you. The book, by the way, this one, a 280 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:04.680 Change of Heart, has just been published, as I understand 281 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:07.319 that in January, correct in. 282 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.559 February, just came out. And there is a there is 283 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:13.960 a mystery in this Yeah, there is a mystery in 284 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:18.200 this book that the heart transplant's number goes up, and 285 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:21.519 obviously the doctor should be happy, but it goes up 286 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:24.920 because the suicide number is going up. And these suicides 287 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:28.359 are committed in a very precise way. People shoot themselves 288 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:31.079 in the head and they avoid the area of the 289 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:33.720 brain that makes the heart beating, so the heart keeps 290 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:36.319 on beating. The brain is destroyed, and they do that 291 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:39.599 in front of a hospital, so the heart can the hardested. 292 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:43.039 And so that's the mystery that carries through the book. 293 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:45.160 And you have to read the book to figure out why, 294 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:46.799 no question. 295 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:50.839 I'm sure it's available with bookstores and also on Amazon, 296 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:54.400 probably the US way. The book is Change of Heart 297 00:17:54.480 --> 00:18:00.000 by doctor Christina Laporte, who's an author and even more importantly, 298 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:02.920 a cardiologist. Well, thank you on both counts. Thank you 299 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.559 for the work you've done on behalf of humanity as 300 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.279 a cardiologist, and also thank you for the work you've 301 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:12.480 done as an author to provide people with your thoughts 302 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:16.839 and ideas and a novel, Change of Heart. Thanks doctor, 303 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:20.839 I appreciate your time tonight, and thank you for getting 304 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:23.839 the book and I know I'm going to enjoy it. 305 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.440 Thanks again, well, thank you very much for having me. 306 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:27.720 I really appreciate it. 307 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:29.519 Thank you my pleasure. 308 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:32.480 Now we're ready for the news at the bottom of 309 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:34.480 the hour, which is fine. And on the other side, 310 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:36.960 we're going to well this is going to freak you 311 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.599 out a little bit. We're going to talk about a 312 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:44.119 dirty hotel room, the ten Jermyst spots in hotel rooms, 313 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:48.720 hotel hygiene exposed. We'll be talking with a consultant for 314 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:51.960 a trade association that deals with cleaning, hygiene and facility 315 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:56.119 management hotel industry. Back on Nightside, my name is Dan Ray. 316 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:59.640 This is a cold Friday night here in New England. 317 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:02.359 Pull a little closer to the radio and we'll warm 318 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:04.200 me up. We've got a great show coming up tonight. 319 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:09.759 Coming up questions from you about taxes, taxes approach the 320 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:13.200 tax man cometh is about five weeks away and we 321 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:19.319 have CPA Mark Missilbeck, the Nightside Tax CPA, and this 322 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:21.200 is it. We had him on a couple of weeks ago, 323 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:25.119 three weeks ago exactly and on Thursday night, and this 324 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:28.039 will be his final appearance. So get your tax questions 325 00:19:28.039 --> 00:19:31.279 ready for Mark Missilbeck during the nine o'clock hour. Back 326 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:34.480 after this on Nightside. 327 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:38.559 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's News radio. 328 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:42.599 My guest is Derek OLIVERI I hope I pronounced it 329 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:47.599 oliver era. Is that the correct pronunciation? Derek? Get okay, 330 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:50.680 thank you very much. So you're a global consultant for 331 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:54.640 an organization that the trade Association for Cleaning, Hygiene and 332 00:19:54.720 --> 00:20:02.160 Facility Management Industry at hotels. I guess you absolute information 333 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:05.880 that suggests that the hotel rooms that all of us 334 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:10.160 periodically stay in, I'm not nearly as clean as we 335 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:11.680 would expect. What's going on? 336 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:14.599 So where would you like me to start that? 337 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:19.240 So obviously that's not that is not good. Are you on? 338 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:22.440 Some are used on a speakerphone or on a headset. 339 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:23.400 I'm on my headset. 340 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:27.319 Yeah, okay, that's uh. Just make sure you got that 341 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:28.960 mic right at your mouth because we're getting a big 342 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:33.680 echo here. So go ahead. It is better, much better 343 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:34.160 what you do. 344 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:36.599 Okay, I just took off my headset. 345 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:39.839 Thank you very much. That's perfect. I appreciate that very 346 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:42.759 right ahead, Derek, okay, thanks so yeah. 347 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:44.880 So obviously when we're talking about hotels, you know we're 348 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:46.920 going to be looking at the high touch areas, which 349 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:49.599 are these commonly areas where everyone goes in touch, and 350 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:51.920 those are the ones that we're usually forgetting to clean regularly. 351 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:54.759 So you know, there are ten areas in a hotel 352 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:57.000 room that you want to look out for, and you 353 00:20:57.039 --> 00:20:59.680 know we can go over them, and you know, TV controller. 354 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:02.400 Let's started. Let's start at the worst area, the area 355 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:04.880 that people should be looking. I mean, I'm assuming you're 356 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:08.799 talking about the bathrooms, but I don't think bathrooms are 357 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:10.960 involved in what you're talking about. 358 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:14.160 Well they are, but they're lowered down on the list. 359 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:16.799 The number one item in all hotel rooms is the 360 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:20.759 TV remote control. So obviously you know we're clicking through channels, 361 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:23.440 we're eating, we're touching other surfaces. So the TV control, 362 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.079 the TV remote control is the number one area that 363 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:28.119 is unproperly sanitized during routine clean. 364 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:30.039 Yeah, let me ask you. Do you figure this out 365 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.079 by going in with microscopes? And I'm serious when I 366 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:35.440 asked this question. I mean, that's that makes a lot 367 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:38.480 of logic. But and obviously you're not checking every hotel 368 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:41.240 room in America, but you've checked enough. How do you 369 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:43.839 figure this out? I mean, I assume you're looking from 370 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:47.279 microscopic germs. Is that that's the process. 371 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:49.279 So what we do is we go in with black 372 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:52.799 light testing and we do also ATP testing, so we 373 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:56.119 do service testing to see if the surfaces are contaminated 374 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:58.839 with with viruses and bacteria. So that's that's those are 375 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:00.960 our primary tools when we go in the hotel rooms. 376 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:04.839 Okay, so who hires you? Is it the hotel that 377 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:09.079 wants to clean or do you do that? Who's who 378 00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:11.480 is your You know you work for this company. It's 379 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:14.720 a consulting company. So does a hotel chain say hey, look, 380 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:17.000 we want to do the right thing by our guests 381 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.200 and we want you to come in and do a survey. 382 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:20.519 Is that? Is that how it works? 383 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:23.759 That's right on exactly. So we have organizations that call 384 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:25.000 us in and ask us to come in and what 385 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:27.079 we call us three hundred and sixty assessment. So we 386 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:29.200 come in and we assess the whole of their operation. 387 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:33.200 So we do obviously cleanliness inspections. We look at their tools, 388 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:36.279 their operations, their scope of works, their training manuals. So 389 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:37.920 we go over the whole thing and then we make 390 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:38.880 sure that they're doing it right. 391 00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:41.640 By the way, you're a Canadian, I assume right. 392 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:43.119 I am Canadian? 393 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:43.400 Yes? 394 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:45.640 And do you know how I know you're a Canadian. 395 00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:50.680 How do you know because you pronounce organization as organization. 396 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:55.279 Okay, good to know. I gave, I gave my fluff up. 397 00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:58.359 No, no, no. I have a lot of friends in Canada, 398 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:02.720 and that's how I because I'm a talk show host. 399 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:05.319 You listen to words and how people pronounce words. And sure, 400 00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:08.400 all my friends who have ever played in the NHL 401 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:11.480