Speaker 1: Shall need advice so you don't happen.
Speaker 2: Come run into.
Speaker 3: Just as fast as you can.
Speaker 4: Shooter's gonna help coming.
Speaker 5: Man, this is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martinez.
Speaker 2: Hello, what's happening today with us? It's car Day? Or
Speaker 2: you could say car Friday. Every Friday. By the way,
Speaker 2: the show in general will not change that much, except
Speaker 2: will emphasize cars a little more. You can still call
Speaker 2: with any other consumer issue. You know, there really is
Speaker 2: no place to discuss consumer issues. You can discuss politics
Speaker 2: and religion and philosophy, but.
Speaker 6: There's no word to really unload.
Speaker 2: And to just say, come on, man, this shouldn't be happening,
Speaker 2: or this should be happening, or why are we doing this?
Speaker 2: Or why are we doing that? And you probably, as
Speaker 2: a result, did not hear a lot about the Big
Speaker 2: Beautiful Bill as it pertains to certain consumer issues. The
Speaker 2: Big Beautiful Bill, did you know, excludes tax credits for
Speaker 2: solar So in the latest edition they've dropped out all
Speaker 2: tax credits for solar systems. Now, think about that. Solar
Speaker 2: system installations were down in twenty twenty four thirty anyway,
Speaker 2: and then the industry was making big adjustments a lot
Speaker 2: of companies went bankrupt. Now we have, of course Red
Speaker 2: Rocks RS, Red Rocks, roof and Solar. Of course they're
Speaker 2: they're a dealer, they're an installer, they're a servicer. Will
Speaker 2: always be a lot of service and stuff needed. But
Speaker 2: until they do it. Now, this is not a commercial here.
Speaker 2: I mean not that it matters. If it was, who cares?
Speaker 2: I love them, But you can still get in under
Speaker 2: the old law. You can still do it. And every
Speaker 2: indication is is that it's not going to be around anymore,
Speaker 2: but they might put it back in. If people write
Speaker 2: to their lawmakers saying we think tax credits are important.
Speaker 7: Why would you do that though?
Speaker 2: Why would somebody write saying we think tax credits are
Speaker 2: important for solar systems if they.
Speaker 8: Think they're being taken away for cars as well, electric cars?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, Well, my personal opinion is the tax credits.
Speaker 2: Of course, they cost us money, right, so we have
Speaker 2: to weigh the costs with the benefit. I think personally
Speaker 2: that evs and solar on houses helps not just the environment.
Speaker 6: Okay, we they it does have a footprint.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's going to stop climate change or
Speaker 2: any of that stuff. I'm not getting into that because
Speaker 2: to produce the batteries and stuff, there's a cost. There's
Speaker 2: an eco cost to everything. But I think it helps
Speaker 2: air quality. I think it helps local air quality, especially
Speaker 2: in cities like Denver. But I think that it's just
Speaker 2: I just think solar is a good idea.
Speaker 8: I don't believe in local air quality. You don't believe
Speaker 8: in want Mark local air quality. Hell, there can be
Speaker 8: a fire in Canada and we have it here downtown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you're you're right, You're right, air is air.
Speaker 2: But what I meant was there are a lot of
Speaker 2: cities though, where evs I think can make a dent
Speaker 2: and help. So what Mark, do you think we should
Speaker 2: not have incentives as you do you think?
Speaker 8: I absolutely love my Teslas one hundred percent. I did
Speaker 8: not get any tax credits, but I kind of liked
Speaker 8: it when it was out there because it helps Elon
Speaker 8: and Tesla, and I own a bunch of their stock.
Speaker 8: Now if I didn't own their stock, i'd feel a
Speaker 8: completely different way. I generally don't feel I should be
Speaker 8: paying for Jeff Solar System or anybody solar system. I
Speaker 8: don't believe in tax credits for much. I think it's
Speaker 8: a good way of cheating.
Speaker 2: Okay, So in general, you don't like incentives and tax
Speaker 2: credits for people.
Speaker 7: For almost anything.
Speaker 8: I think Denver gives so much money for like free
Speaker 8: electric bikes. I mean, why am I paying for someone
Speaker 8: else electric bike?
Speaker 7: That's insane?
Speaker 2: And let me bring something up that I feel is
Speaker 2: pretty cool. And he's been consistent for years. Mark, He'll
Speaker 2: tell you he is a selfish voter and he is
Speaker 2: an I don't mean that in a bad way. He
Speaker 2: is a selfish voter and a selfish observer of the
Speaker 2: current climate. He wants to know how is this affecting me?
Speaker 2: And a lot of people don't do that. They don't
Speaker 2: do it, but.
Speaker 7: I think they don't say it, but they do it.
Speaker 9: Oh okay, Mark, I think most voters vote because of
Speaker 9: what they think is going to affect them personally.
Speaker 2: Okay, But well, as Mark said, they don't say that.
Speaker 2: They they they talk about lofty ideas when it comes
Speaker 2: to the environment or other things, but they might vote
Speaker 2: against that privately. I believe that's so A lot of.
Speaker 7: Think most people are that way.
Speaker 8: They want to act like their self right or yeah,
Speaker 8: self righteous, you know.
Speaker 7: But in general, if it affects you it affects you.
Speaker 2: Let's talk to RZ. I believe, I hope I'm pronouncing
Speaker 2: it right.
Speaker 10: R Z.
Speaker 6: Arz I RZ that.
Speaker 11: Thank you pronouncing it exactly right.
Speaker 2: Well, what's going on with you? RZI? What's happening?
Speaker 11: Thanks to Martino Lows my oldest sister, I lost my mother,
Speaker 11: I lost my dad and another sister just about all
Speaker 11: at the same time. Well, I have a young lady
Speaker 11: that's my younger sister, and I got doubts about that
Speaker 11: as far as that goes. But I became the personal
Speaker 11: representative of my parents of state and my oldest sister Coosetta,
Speaker 11: and I got an attorney from where my wife used
Speaker 11: to work, and williams we Pepple and through.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't need to need to know each and every
Speaker 2: name or or syllable or needs you. So go on
Speaker 2: with your story, though I'm interested. So you were a
Speaker 2: personal representative for your mom and your older sister.
Speaker 6: Keep going.
Speaker 11: Yeah, And the the people that were my attorneys, they
Speaker 11: got Incoho's here with my supposedly youngest sister.
Speaker 2: Now I need to ask some basic questions, Arsie, how
Speaker 2: many people? How many people? Right? Now are surviving in
Speaker 2: the family, You and your youngest sister and who else?
Speaker 12: Two half brothers?
Speaker 2: Okay, keep going then.
Speaker 11: And I am the oldest of them.
Speaker 2: Old I got it. One sister and two half brothers.
Speaker 2: So where are we going with the story? Though? You're
Speaker 2: saying that the attorney is he making private deals with
Speaker 2: what is he? And who chose this attorney to represent
Speaker 2: the estate?
Speaker 12: I did?
Speaker 2: Okay? And how did you find the attorney? I don't
Speaker 2: need to know a lot about the attorney, but how
Speaker 2: did you find this firm?
Speaker 11: My wife worked for the firm.
Speaker 2: Now you understand, as personal representative, you can fire that
Speaker 2: firm if you think they're making underhanded dealings. But it
Speaker 2: might just be your imagination. Arzi, tell me what you
Speaker 2: think they're doing wrong?
Speaker 11: Well, they've taken the estate out of my hand? How
Speaker 11: well they who kind of way went to the court
Speaker 11: or something? Man, I'm not the person or representative anymore.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on now, hold on, hold on. I did
Speaker 2: not realize so they took away that They could have
Speaker 2: only done that if one of the heirs complained. So
Speaker 2: did someone who complained? Your youngest sister? Yes?
Speaker 6: Did the two brothers?
Speaker 2: Did the two brothers go along with her.
Speaker 11: That's what is happening.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on and hold on, because what I want
Speaker 2: to do is get maybe Dan McKenzie on if we
Speaker 2: can get him to discuss this RZI. It's very difficult
Speaker 2: to displace someone as a personal representative. I can only
Speaker 2: assume that there were some evidence or something there, or
Speaker 2: that you didn't put up a stink.
Speaker 7: But are they what are they claiming?
Speaker 8: Are they saying like you're on drugs, or you're an alcoholic,
Speaker 8: or you're a felon. They must be alleging something, whether
Speaker 8: it's miss or mishandling the estate.
Speaker 6: What are they accusing you of?
Speaker 11: They're saying that I misshandled the estate, okay, but do
Speaker 11: share reasons of whatever it is. And then saying that
Speaker 11: I stole money.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's really important.
Speaker 11: That's a lie.
Speaker 2: Well I'm not saying it's true or not, but they
Speaker 2: must have had They must have had something for the
Speaker 2: judge to act. So hold on it. We'll come back
Speaker 2: to you. I'm Tom Martino. Joe wants to talk about
Speaker 2: an oil change, John wants to talk about a solar issue.
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Speaker 2: I think Mark what he did was what we call
Speaker 2: bury the lead, meaning that the main issue here. He
Speaker 2: was removed as personal representative from his and from his
Speaker 2: mom's estate and his oldest sister's estate based on alleged improprieties.
Speaker 7: That's one way you'll say it.
Speaker 6: That's right. Alleged he was accused of stealing.
Speaker 8: Money, missing and then depending on what he spent the
Speaker 8: money on, apparently a judge thought it was not good
Speaker 8: to spend the money on that.
Speaker 2: Why don't you go ahead, Arsie and fill in the
Speaker 2: details for us.
Speaker 11: Okay, first of all, I haven't spent any money. I
Speaker 11: haven't touched any of the money except the money that
Speaker 11: I took that my sister was spending. I put it.
Speaker 11: I put it in uh a cashiers check at the
Speaker 11: bank that I ended up everything in my sister's name.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, Arzie, you did this while she was
Speaker 2: still alive.
Speaker 13: Wow? Who cos thata?
Speaker 6: While you're yeah, well you're okay.
Speaker 2: So you made a cashier's check, you said, on money
Speaker 2: she's spending. Well, what the heck does that mean when
Speaker 2: she passed away? How much? Well here's what I need
Speaker 2: to know. Well, how much money came out of the
Speaker 2: estate after they both passed away. Just I don't need
Speaker 2: to know what it was for and if it was
Speaker 2: right or wrong? How much total came out of the estates.
Speaker 11: We don't know, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What do you mean we don't know you were in charge?
Speaker 2: How much money was withdrawn from their accounts?
Speaker 14: We don't.
Speaker 11: I don't know that they have put me out of Marzine.
Speaker 2: Before they kick you out, hold on, before they kick
Speaker 2: you out.
Speaker 6: These two people died.
Speaker 2: You were appointed the personal representative at some point. How
Speaker 2: long were you personal representative? A day or a week,
Speaker 2: a year?
Speaker 6: How long?
Speaker 11: Maybe a good five five or six months?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 2: During that five or six months, how much came out
Speaker 2: of the estates? You can't say. I don't know because
Speaker 2: you were in charge for that five or six months.
Speaker 2: How much came out of the estates?
Speaker 11: Mister Martino, there's the attorneys that I had chose to
Speaker 11: make Barris a sister, my younger sister, a co personal represented.
Speaker 2: Old personal Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 6: So so you don't know what she was doing.
Speaker 2: You only know what you were doing, So you don't
Speaker 2: know how much was taken out. What proof did they
Speaker 2: What proof did they offer in court that you were
Speaker 2: stealing money?
Speaker 15: And nobody's gone to court?
Speaker 2: Okay, So they just made the accusation and the judge
Speaker 2: appointed your sister instead of you.
Speaker 11: I was a pointed the personal representedgy. They added her
Speaker 11: as a co personal representedgy.
Speaker 2: So what's wrong with that? What's tell me how this
Speaker 2: is affecting you?
Speaker 11: I don't I'm not a part of any of it anymore.
Speaker 2: So, why why do you care?
Speaker 11: Why do I care?
Speaker 14: Right?
Speaker 6: Why do you care?
Speaker 11: I want my mother to state in my sister the
Speaker 11: state back and to do what I was supposed to
Speaker 11: do with it instead of it advance.
Speaker 2: Okay, all ri Rzie, I'm arsie. I'm letting you control
Speaker 2: this conversation. You want it back, to do what was
Speaker 2: supposed to be done. What was supposed to be done.
Speaker 11: I was gonna split the money, that's what.
Speaker 2: Split the money. You were gonna split the money four ways? Yes, okay?
Speaker 2: And instead of splitting the money, what did your sister
Speaker 2: do with the money? What is going on with the money? Now?
Speaker 11: They've taken it all?
Speaker 2: What do you mean they have taken it all? Who
Speaker 2: is they?
Speaker 11: Her attorneys and her and they've taken every bit of it?
Speaker 2: And how much was it? How much?
Speaker 11: I don't know all of that either. I know this
Speaker 11: sounds crazy, but.
Speaker 2: How do you know? Here?
Speaker 6: You here, listen to what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I was my sister has made personal representative. She and
Speaker 2: her attorneys, in cahoots with the judge, took everything. So
Speaker 2: how much is everything? And if you don't know, then
Speaker 2: how do you know they even took it? How do
Speaker 2: you know it's not still there?
Speaker 11: Because I'm not able to reach any of.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean it's not there. Arsie. You made an
Speaker 2: accusation that every dime has been taken, Yet you don't
Speaker 2: know what's n.
Speaker 11: It Hay every time?
Speaker 2: How do you know?
Speaker 11: I don't have access to it.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm asking. If you don't have access, how
Speaker 2: do you know it was taken? Who is who are
Speaker 2: you talking to? Arsie? Arsie? Who are you talking to? Who?
Speaker 2: Who's right over your shoulder there? Who is it?
Speaker 16: Who?
Speaker 14: My wife?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 6: Does she want to talk to us?
Speaker 2: Maybe I can speak with her seriously, I want to try.
Speaker 17: To help you want to be doing?
Speaker 2: What's rs What? What is your wife's name?
Speaker 18: M A?
Speaker 2: R I?
Speaker 8: Mari?
Speaker 2: Okay, let me talk to Maria. I'm right here, Hey, Mari,
Speaker 2: what do you think is going on? Just give me
Speaker 2: what your gut is telling you.
Speaker 19: What my gut is telling me is that.
Speaker 3: Rsi's sister.
Speaker 19: And her attorneys have helped her steal the money out
Speaker 19: of the estate of Kosanna Hammock West and his parents,
Speaker 19: Clifford and Thelma West.
Speaker 6: How do you know that.
Speaker 19: We haven't seen are these parents passed? Away, Arthy was
Speaker 19: the oldest child, which the estate should have gone to him.
Speaker 2: That it's not that is not necessarily true. It doesn't.
Speaker 2: It doesn't automatically go to the oldest that's you know,
Speaker 2: you're quoting laws that don't exist. So what if you
Speaker 2: guys don't have access, How do you know the money
Speaker 2: has been taken?
Speaker 19: Because we had an account where the money was held
Speaker 19: at one point.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, and how much money? How much money are
Speaker 2: we talking about?
Speaker 19: Well, at the time that we were looking at it
Speaker 19: there it was well over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 19: It could have been.
Speaker 15: Up to two three.
Speaker 11: Even more than that.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: What happened to the house.
Speaker 20: Now which we had?
Speaker 2: Well, which any of them? Any of them? What happened
Speaker 2: to the real estate in general? What happened to it?
Speaker 16: We sold a.
Speaker 19: House, We sold the houses?
Speaker 2: Okay, So right now, Mari, is the bottom line this
Speaker 2: and I don't mean this in a bad way.
Speaker 6: It is our z calling because he wants his share.
Speaker 19: Sure, well, yeah, we wont our share.
Speaker 6: Okay, hold on a second, just hold on a second.
Speaker 2: You know it is it is. It is befuddling to
Speaker 2: me how many people are accused of wrongdoing when they're
Speaker 2: brothers and sisters and friends. When it comes to the States,
Speaker 2: it is it is nasty. Mark. How many times have
Speaker 2: we heard people being accused of stealing or being in
Speaker 2: cahoots with the judge? Really well, really good?
Speaker 8: I mean it's well. Being in cahoots with the judge
Speaker 8: is just silly. I mean unless he's a relative and
Speaker 8: someone left that out. Why would the judge be in
Speaker 8: cahoots with anybody? No, there's no reason why.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, Here's what I want to do. I want
Speaker 2: to get Dan mckenzion, not to try to solve this
Speaker 2: problem at this moment, but to do a general what
Speaker 2: do they do to get a general accounting and to
Speaker 2: make the estate at least report to them. So get
Speaker 2: Dan mckenzion to talk in general terms for us. I
Speaker 2: have to take this break now. We are working on
Speaker 2: this oil change problem with Joe. He's going to be next,
Speaker 2: along with John who has a follow up from a
Speaker 2: year ago. We'll look into that. I'm Tom Martine. Jeff
Speaker 2: Thick is in the studio. He's with Kimera Transmission and
Speaker 2: we'll be talking cars today as well. I looked up
Speaker 2: some very interesting information on cars that last long and
Speaker 2: cars that don't.
Speaker 6: All of that coming up right.
Speaker 2: After this seven one, three, eight, two, five five. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we're going to wait on Dan McKenzie for that
Speaker 2: estate issue. Let's talk about oil changes. We have Jeff
Speaker 2: fake Kimera transmission. Joe wants to talk about an issue
Speaker 2: with an oil change. What the heck's going on, Joe.
Speaker 17: Hey, I just want to comment first on.
Speaker 21: Your opening monologue about electric vehicles. All I have to
Speaker 21: say is, man made global warming is a scam.
Speaker 17: It's a farce. Uh, it's a joke, and I hope
Speaker 17: you guys don't do.
Speaker 2: Too much well Joe, you know I wasn't discussing I
Speaker 2: wasn't talking about evs to stop climate change. I mean,
Speaker 2: people can come down on that issue wherever they want.
Speaker 2: I was talking about them. I just think they're a
Speaker 2: great alternative.
Speaker 8: I have the same opinion as you do, and I
Speaker 8: own two Teslas, but I don't I didn't buy the
Speaker 8: Teslas right to be green. I bought them because they
Speaker 8: drive themselves and they're the fastest car made.
Speaker 22: I got.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Yeah, I'm with so.
Speaker 21: I have no problem with electric vehicles, none whatsoever. But
Speaker 21: I they're not driving any they're not driving salvation from
Speaker 21: climate change.
Speaker 2: And Joe, Joe, you know what, I come down kind
Speaker 2: of on your side too. Here's what I think. There
Speaker 2: are definitely meteorological changes taking place in the atmosphere and
Speaker 2: around the world in cycles that have been happening for
Speaker 2: millions of years. What Here's what I find funny that
Speaker 2: we believe when Joe Biden used to talk about his
Speaker 2: legislation for climate change, he's passed more legislation or got
Speaker 2: more things through for climate change than any president in history.
Speaker 2: What I'm getting at is what folly it is to
Speaker 2: believe that we are going to change climate cycles. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's what I think. I just think that I don't
Speaker 2: know where I come down on the issue on the
Speaker 2: causes and effects and all of that. I'm going to
Speaker 2: profess my ignorance. But one thing I do know is
Speaker 2: that we as individuals and as one country or another
Speaker 2: cannot change the climate.
Speaker 22: Yeah.
Speaker 8: One volcano, one big volcano is equal to what I forget.
Speaker 8: It's like years, you know, years and years and years
Speaker 8: of vis and years of oil and smoke and everything.
Speaker 8: Or a huge fire like in Canada or Colorado, same thing.
Speaker 2: Look, there is something going on, and Joe, in general,
Speaker 2: I believe we should all be good stewards of the environment.
Speaker 2: Obviously we don't want to purposely damage our earth. But
Speaker 2: I'm when I talked about evs, it had nothing to
Speaker 2: do with you know, climate change or do it for
Speaker 2: this or do it for that, or sustainable energy. I
Speaker 2: just like evs and think they're a great alternative, and
Speaker 2: I like stuff like that, and I like solar systems
Speaker 2: for homes because it can save you money. So anyway,
Speaker 2: so what's going on with your oil change?
Speaker 21: I'm just curious what the curate that current thought process
Speaker 21: is on whether or not an oil change is necessary
Speaker 21: after your first thirty thousand miles in a new vehicle.
Speaker 22: Jeff, Oh, I definitely would. Yeah. So I mean you've
Speaker 22: got all sorts of stuff that you know it's wearing in,
Speaker 22: so you're going to have particular that's going to actually
Speaker 22: accumulate there. You want to get it out.
Speaker 6: When would you do it, Jeff? On a new car, when.
Speaker 2: Would you do it?
Speaker 22: One thousand mile mark that he just mentioned is a
Speaker 22: good point. That's a good place to go. I mean
Speaker 22: you probably go up to two thousand, or maybe even
Speaker 22: twenty five hundred. But yeah, an early oil change, I
Speaker 22: would consider it necessary.
Speaker 17: Yes, all right, I appreciate that.
Speaker 6: I'll do it.
Speaker 14: Now.
Speaker 2: What kind of car do you have? Man? You can't
Speaker 2: get off that easy?
Speaker 6: A kind of car?
Speaker 21: I don't want to say, because I'm scared to death
Speaker 21: that the training's gonna fail on me after.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 17: No, it's an one?
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 22: Yeah, they're having problems with those ten speeds out there
Speaker 22: right now.
Speaker 2: You said that last week.
Speaker 7: There there must be a ton of problems.
Speaker 22: There is a ton of problems.
Speaker 7: What is the main deal?
Speaker 22: They're just a lot of the engineering and a lot
Speaker 22: of what they put into it. You know, the trash
Speaker 22: can that's in there, it's aluminum, you know. Now the
Speaker 22: aftermarket's come out with a steel want to fix it it?
Speaker 22: The converters have a captive clutching there that does not
Speaker 22: work properly. We've gotten them bad right out of the box.
Speaker 22: The new solenoids they've got in there, they actually worked
Speaker 22: like a mechanical solenoid. They don't they're not diverting oil.
Speaker 22: They actually push on the valves themselves. The keepers actually
Speaker 22: start to wear out the solenoids are moving in and
Speaker 22: out of the Voel bodies, causing all sorts of shift complaints,
Speaker 22: poor design, poor design, flat out Wow.
Speaker 20: So they're trying to be there.
Speaker 21: I think, in my opinion, they were possibly over an
Speaker 21: engineering it to be green compliant.
Speaker 22: Well, the engineers were actually mechanics themselves, so they understood
Speaker 22: the car. Yeah, they're just engineers.
Speaker 8: Well, and plus a lot of those regulations were rolled back. Man,
Speaker 8: I mean we're going to start seeing cars built better, hopefully, hopefully.
Speaker 2: You know what. It's a really really nice looking truck, though,
Speaker 2: isn't it? Man? It's really nice, look nicely, Joe, what
Speaker 2: color did you get?
Speaker 21: It's gray, beautiful of dark gray and a platinum so
Speaker 21: it's got all the bells and whistles.
Speaker 20: It's a beauty.
Speaker 21: It drives like a dream.
Speaker 2: Now do you need a pickup or did you just
Speaker 2: get it because you liked the vehicle?
Speaker 17: I do not need a pickup.
Speaker 21: I haven't driven anything but a pickup for thirty or
Speaker 21: forty years.
Speaker 2: There's funny, Oh boy, isn't that funny? There are so
Speaker 2: many people like Joe, and I'm wondering how many if
Speaker 2: you had to make an admission right now, have a
Speaker 2: car for other reasons other than mission, Like the mission
Speaker 2: would be of you're a contractor, you need to pick up.
Speaker 2: But if you are not a contractor and you don't
Speaker 2: ever use a pickup. You know, how many people are
Speaker 2: there that have cars they don't need, Like there are
Speaker 2: people that have SUVs they would never use, or vehicles
Speaker 2: that are excellent for off roading, but they never off road.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious how many people buy cars for just
Speaker 2: I don't know, just for what they I do for Yeah,
Speaker 2: just because you like it, right, you don't look.
Speaker 6: At the mission, Just like with the EV you have.
Speaker 2: You love the EV. You love all the all the
Speaker 2: bells and whistles and the self driving and all of that.
Speaker 2: So but I wonder how many, Jeff, I wonder how
Speaker 2: many people you get in there that have a vehicle
Speaker 2: because they need it or is it just because? You know?
Speaker 22: I never tend to ask that question.
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I know it's not a question that's
Speaker 2: often asked. Anyway. We have more coming up. I'm Tom Martino. Hey,
Speaker 2: welcome to the show. I have a fun index that
Speaker 2: I want to go over when we have time on
Speaker 2: the most American made cars, even though some cars are
Speaker 2: assembled here. If you take all of their if you
Speaker 2: take all of their components and stuff and add them
Speaker 2: all up, there's a score this one website, dude on
Speaker 2: the most and the least most American made cars. Anyway,
Speaker 2: let's go back to the phones here, John, you have
Speaker 2: a follow up from a year ago. Now, what did
Speaker 2: we do a year ago with this problem? Let's just
Speaker 2: start there. What did we do because I can't find
Speaker 2: it anywhere.
Speaker 14: Well, I had called you to let you know about Palmetto.
Speaker 2: Solar and what was the problem at the time.
Speaker 6: What was the problem at the time.
Speaker 14: What they had told me is that they had to
Speaker 14: remove the.
Speaker 13: Oak tree in on the south lawn.
Speaker 14: Before it would have enough sun to do.
Speaker 2: You know what that kind of that kind of rings
Speaker 2: a bell with me. So are you still calling about
Speaker 2: that same issue or what are you calling about?
Speaker 14: I just wanted to call you and give you an updated.
Speaker 23: Yeah.
Speaker 14: They said that they were going to remove the tree
Speaker 14: with no cost to me. And I had an agreement
Speaker 14: with a guy named Scott Anderson who set up the
Speaker 14: whole thing, that there would be no talk of any
Speaker 14: financing until the.
Speaker 13: System was turned on and tested. So they come out
Speaker 13: to turn.
Speaker 14: It on and test it. And I had asked them.
Speaker 14: I said, well, you said you're going to remove the
Speaker 14: tree first, so let's get that done.
Speaker 13: And then I pretended, like you know, they never said.
Speaker 14: They were going to that, They never said they needed
Speaker 14: to remove the tree. And I was confused, and I said, well,
Speaker 14: first of all.
Speaker 13: Uh, you said you had to remove it and you were.
Speaker 14: Going to test the system before we talked.
Speaker 2: About Yeah, Bro, John John, let's just John without John,
Speaker 2: without John, without having that in writing, none of it's
Speaker 2: going to matter because they're just going to deny it.
Speaker 14: Exactly. But what I'm getting at is the person that
Speaker 14: set up the whole thing, Scott Anderson, said it would
Speaker 14: be tested to prove that it would produce enough electricity
Speaker 14: to cover my electric bild before they even talk.
Speaker 2: I want to I want to talk hold on a
Speaker 2: say I know why you're calling. I I know why
Speaker 2: you're calling, even though it's been a year, because you
Speaker 2: were you you had the system without any payment whatsoever,
Speaker 2: and now that they want to be paid, now you're
Speaker 2: bringing up problems. What I want to know is why
Speaker 2: weren't why weren't you working on these problems for the
Speaker 2: past year.
Speaker 14: I have I hired a lawyer. They paid the lawyer off.
Speaker 14: She went away.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, John, John, Wait, John, John, you can't
Speaker 2: make statements like that and keep going. You said you
Speaker 2: hired a lawyer and they paid her off. Now that's
Speaker 2: a pretty serious accusation, and that alone, right hold on, John,
Speaker 2: that alone, right there will win you your case. So
Speaker 2: what proof do you have that this took a payoff?
Speaker 14: Because she gave me my two thousand dollars retainer back
Speaker 14: and said that you either take their deal or leave.
Speaker 6: Okay, why do you believe that?
Speaker 2: So? So do you have do you have proof? Every
Speaker 2: once in a while, John, I want you to listen
Speaker 2: to me. Do they Do you have proof of a
Speaker 2: payoff from them to her?
Speaker 14: No, just the fact that she paid me back the retainer.
Speaker 2: Is it possible?
Speaker 6: I want to ask you a question.
Speaker 17: Is it possible put two and two together?
Speaker 2: You know, is it possible? Is it possible that this
Speaker 2: attorney really thought what they were offering was the best deal?
Speaker 2: And I think she sounds like an exceptional attorney. You see,
Speaker 2: some attorneys lie to their clients and make them spend
Speaker 2: a lot of money over a non issue.
Speaker 6: Now, what I'd like to do is look at the issue.
Speaker 2: You had a palmetal palmetto install the solar system and
Speaker 2: when did you notice you had a problem with the system?
Speaker 6: Was it ever activated?
Speaker 14: I found out when I started getting calls from goodly
Speaker 14: pancing companies saying that I owed them forty six thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: See John, I'm not talking to John, have you Okay,
Speaker 2: let's put John on hold. Unless John can answer my
Speaker 2: questions and stay on topic, I'm not gonna help them. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's nothing we can do. I know why he's calling.
Speaker 2: He's calling because he owes money. That's why he's calling.
Speaker 2: But I want to talk about the system, and if
Speaker 2: you let me, I can help you if you answer questions.
Speaker 6: More coming up on The Troubleshooter.
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Speaker 5: Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.
Speaker 2: No Tom Martine, Hello Tom Martina.
Speaker 24: Here.
Speaker 2: Today is Car Day on the Troubleshooter Show. In our
Speaker 2: forty fifth year, solving problems, answering questions and taking complaints.
Speaker 2: And it's car So on Friday we concentrate on car calls,
Speaker 2: but we'll take any call, any and all calls, and
Speaker 2: any problem question complain. So cars dot Com did a
Speaker 2: a survey, not a survey, a research project where they
Speaker 2: went to each and every make and model of each
Speaker 2: and every car, and they looked at every component, and
Speaker 2: they looked at where the cars are assembled and came
Speaker 2: up with a score on what's most American made? And
Speaker 2: obviously it's Tesla, but not all models. The Tesla why
Speaker 2: is the number one? Well, not one percent, but most
Speaker 2: American made car? It's the model why Tesla. Honda Passport
Speaker 2: is second. So they looked they even break it down
Speaker 2: into models. Hey, let's talk now, John, you have a
Speaker 2: solar system problem, but I need to get some basics
Speaker 2: when you how long ago did you have that system installed?
Speaker 14: A little over a year ago?
Speaker 2: Okay? And and at the time, how much did you pay?
Speaker 25: Uh?
Speaker 14: That was what I was calling you about the agreement
Speaker 14: I had with Scott Anderson.
Speaker 2: What do you do I want to know. I don't
Speaker 2: want to know the agreement with Scott Anderson because that
Speaker 2: won't hold up it will. I need the agreement you
Speaker 2: had in writing. What agreement did you have in writing?
Speaker 14: That's the only agreement I had in writing? That he
Speaker 14: was going to design the system and test it and
Speaker 14: then we would talk about the finances.
Speaker 2: Talk about what by talking about the finances, are you
Speaker 2: telling me you had no idea what this system was
Speaker 2: going to cost you?
Speaker 14: That's exactly what, right, That's what he told me.
Speaker 2: So, so if it what? What if it turned out
Speaker 2: to be five hundred thousand dollars? What would you have done.
Speaker 14: Five hundred thousand?
Speaker 2: John? I'm John. You just told me that you had
Speaker 2: no idea. John, You just told me you had no
Speaker 2: idea how much this system was going to cost you.
Speaker 2: You had no idea. You you made a contract that
Speaker 2: was playing okay?
Speaker 6: Good?
Speaker 2: Did the contract have a price on it?
Speaker 14: He said, if I will, if I agreed to the
Speaker 14: installation and the test, that we would talk about the
Speaker 14: contract in the range of forty six thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: And that's what the contract says. We're going to do
Speaker 2: a test first and then talk about the system. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I told them, Okay, I need to see a copy
Speaker 2: of the contract. Do you have a dude, listen, I
Speaker 2: think we can help you a lot. Do you have
Speaker 2: a copy of the contract.
Speaker 14: Do you have the contract? No?
Speaker 2: Okay? It was so so you don't if you don't
Speaker 2: have a copy of the contract in agreement, you don't
Speaker 2: have a copy of the contract. But you you're telling
Speaker 2: me the contract says that. Beat there. You're telling me
Speaker 2: that the contract says before they do anything, they're going
Speaker 2: to build a complete system and test.
Speaker 14: It correct because I was wanting to make sure that
Speaker 14: it produced enough electricity.
Speaker 2: I get it. So your contract, said, Bill, Your contract
Speaker 2: says that first they're going to build a system and
Speaker 2: let you test it and will not hold you responsible
Speaker 2: until after that.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's what I signed in front of Scott Anderson.
Speaker 2: Well, Mark, don't you think that's a slam dunk victory?
Speaker 7: I don't believe it.
Speaker 6: What don't you believe? I don't just said I.
Speaker 8: Don't think anybody's gonna be if I'm understanding this right,
Speaker 8: They're going to build the whole system and make sure
Speaker 8: it does what and then if the guy doesn't like it,
Speaker 8: he's not gonna have to pay for it.
Speaker 7: I guess I'm a little loss.
Speaker 2: Did they Yeah? John? If the test didn't work, John,
Speaker 2: if the test didn't work, then what what did the
Speaker 2: contracts say they would do?
Speaker 13: But we never got to that point.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, John, is what did you? May I ask something?
Speaker 2: Are you are? I want to ask a question. Are
Speaker 2: you working right now? Do you have a career or
Speaker 2: are you retired?
Speaker 14: I am a truck driver. I can't deliver at.
Speaker 7: I'd like to see the contract. Why don't you send
Speaker 7: us over that contract?
Speaker 2: He doesn't have the contract? Oh well, he has no contract.
Speaker 2: So here's what John is telling how the.
Speaker 14: Police report the the Aurora.
Speaker 6: Wait, wait, wait, a police report for what?
Speaker 14: The lawyer got a copy of it for the pro
Speaker 14: is there? Admitted? Because they went and John playing it?
Speaker 6: Okay, tell us about the police report.
Speaker 14: Go ahead, okay, because they took that the agreement that
Speaker 14: I had with Scott and wrote up a different agreement
Speaker 14: they called an installation agreement, and they grafted my signature
Speaker 14: onto that saying that that's what I signed, was not
Speaker 14: what I signed.
Speaker 2: Okay. So you're gonna tell me even if we get
Speaker 2: a copy of the contract, it's gonna be fraudulent. Yeah.
Speaker 14: And it's been filed with the the Aurora Police Department
Speaker 14: and the Colorado State Attorney General's Office.
Speaker 2: Okay, and that John, I'm gonna give you some news.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you some news. I want to give
Speaker 2: you some news that you're not gonna you're not gonna like,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna tell you you're gonna lose this case.
Speaker 14: I've never even had had the case go to court, yet.
Speaker 6: It will and you're gonna lose.
Speaker 14: They they won't They won't take me to court because
Speaker 14: they won't even test the system that they agreed to
Speaker 14: test before.
Speaker 2: We John John no one wrote, no One wrote A. Now,
Speaker 2: I believe there could have been There could have been
Speaker 2: a salesperson that lied to you. There could be to
Speaker 2: get a commission. They lied to and said, hey, John,
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. But we don't have to worry
Speaker 2: about this. We don't have to worry about any of
Speaker 2: this until it's up and running and we test it. Mark,
Speaker 2: I believe there could have been a salesperson who lied
Speaker 2: to him and tried to get it.
Speaker 8: Decide does that have to do with anything? If there's
Speaker 8: no proof when you're in court.
Speaker 6: Right nothing.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying to John is if he has a
Speaker 2: system on, does the system operate right now? John?
Speaker 14: No, they've never turned it on.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he has a system, you know where there
Speaker 2: was a basic Wait a second, he has a system
Speaker 2: it was never activated. He claims they did not hold
Speaker 2: up their end of the bargain and their promises. He
Speaker 2: has no proof of those promises in and he said
Speaker 2: any proof that they offer will be fraudulent because they
Speaker 2: forged his signature. Go ahead, that's it in a Hutchhow.
Speaker 7: Here's a real attorney. Have a copy of it?
Speaker 9: Can he get it from his attorney?
Speaker 2: It's not a question of getting it doc because it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if we get a copy of the contract.
Speaker 2: He's simply gonna say they forged his name. He is
Speaker 2: a moving target.
Speaker 8: Well, listen, here's something that might actually work. Brooke has
Speaker 8: told us numerous times that most of these finance companies
Speaker 8: do not get or most of the people getting paid
Speaker 8: by the finance companies the solar companies, if they can't
Speaker 8: get it on and turned on onto the grid, generally
Speaker 8: she can get the loan canceled and they'll go back
Speaker 8: after the installer. Let's ask her about that, because that's
Speaker 8: the only real out I see for this guy.
Speaker 2: I Mark, here's the thing. He's got all these things
Speaker 2: that were promised to him and John, you really.
Speaker 10: Do know, I forget that they had said that they
Speaker 10: had to remove the oak tree on the south lawn
Speaker 10: before it would actually get enough sun to work. That's
Speaker 10: their words.
Speaker 2: And man, how are you gonna be done?
Speaker 6: How are you going to prove those words?
Speaker 2: John?
Speaker 6: How are you going to prove him?
Speaker 14: Well, you're subpoena. You get them in court and you
Speaker 14: have them testified to what they had told you about
Speaker 14: the system.
Speaker 2: Okay, and they're gonna admit it.
Speaker 6: They're gonna admit it.
Speaker 2: They're going to admit.
Speaker 10: Everything that you just have to.
Speaker 2: Oh really, really, so they wouldn't. They could never lie.
Speaker 2: That's impossible.
Speaker 14: They're gonna lie in front of me after they already
Speaker 14: promised me this in front of John.
Speaker 6: Have you seen an attorney about this that you?
Speaker 10: You did see.
Speaker 2: An attorney, John, didn't you? And when you saw an attorney,
Speaker 2: I'll just keep talking as well as you're talking, because
Speaker 2: you're not listening. Your attorney said to take the deal.
Speaker 2: What deal were they offering?
Speaker 14: Oh like four hundars less than the forty six thousand?
Speaker 2: Okay, So your attorney looked at this and must have
Speaker 2: thought they had a solid contract would make what would
Speaker 2: make you happy right now? What would make you happy
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 13: I would be happy if they if they tested the system, improved.
Speaker 14: It worked, and if it does, then what cover the electricity?
Speaker 6: Let's say it does, then.
Speaker 14: Electricity of my electric bill.
Speaker 2: Let's say they test it and it.
Speaker 14: Works like Scott Anderson promised.
Speaker 2: Let's say Scott Anderson is gone, so forget about that.
Speaker 2: Let's say they test the system and it's producing electricity.
Speaker 2: Then what.
Speaker 14: We see how much electric If it covers or more
Speaker 14: than covers of the deal, then I got a deal right.
Speaker 14: If it doesn't, ever and hold on the center of
Speaker 14: the deal, like the referrals you hear online, John, you're.
Speaker 6: Making up Okay, just forget it.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's We can't help John, Honest to God,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to take this case.
Speaker 6: We can't help him.
Speaker 2: He makes up terms and conditions as he goes along.
Speaker 2: He says, you know, I heard online ten percent of
Speaker 2: the deal. I mean, he's making up terms and conditions
Speaker 2: as he goes and he talks about Scott Anderson as
Speaker 2: if it's biblical truth. He's not going to win this case.
Speaker 2: It's a losing battle, and we're wasting our time. We
Speaker 2: are absolutely wasting our time. We got more coming up
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Speaker 2: troubleshooter of three zero three seven one three eight two
Speaker 2: five five. Let's continue here, And I really I want
Speaker 2: to say this. I do want to help people.
Speaker 14: Now.
Speaker 2: One guy said, Tom, you didn't help that guy at all. Well,
Speaker 2: I did help the people listening. I helped the people
Speaker 2: listening know not to be such a stupid person. I mean,
Speaker 2: that guy is so ignorant. He doesn't even know how
Speaker 2: ignorant he is. See, those are the worst kind of
Speaker 2: people that think they have facts and figures. And he's
Speaker 2: gonna go win. This guy had nothing in writing, nothing,
Speaker 2: and the stuff that was in writing. He's going to
Speaker 2: insist his signature was forged, and he will decide to
Speaker 2: pay for the system based on how much electricity it generates.
Speaker 2: Then he'll talk about it. He truly believes that that
Speaker 2: company needs to cowtow to his all of his terms
Speaker 2: and conditions.
Speaker 8: And they don't even care because they got paid by
Speaker 8: the finance company.
Speaker 7: They really don't give a crap.
Speaker 2: And then here's the other thing. He says his attorney
Speaker 2: was paid off anyone who doesn't agree with him.
Speaker 6: You know, it's a shame.
Speaker 2: It's truly a shame that he's a hard working truck
Speaker 2: driver and this man is going to go through life
Speaker 2: getting flim flims his whole life.
Speaker 8: He really should, though, reach out, and I hope he's
Speaker 8: still listening. You need to reach out to the finance
Speaker 8: company and tell them they never turned it on, they
Speaker 8: never finished the job. If that part's true, you might
Speaker 8: have something there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know every day, I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: forty five years and fifty years elsewhere, if you count
Speaker 2: up my career, I have to call it like it is.
Speaker 2: Sometimes there are people that are just stupid.
Speaker 6: Is that bad to say they're just stupid?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 2: And okay, so now let's talk to Richard about his
Speaker 2: excel smart meters, not stupid meters, but smart meters. Richard,
Speaker 2: what's going on?
Speaker 26: Okay, So I've got solar on, I have a house
Speaker 26: and a garage, separate meters.
Speaker 6: Do you like Solar?
Speaker 2: I don't mind it?
Speaker 7: Okay, what was the hell of a could you elaborate
Speaker 7: on that question though? What does that mean?
Speaker 25: Well?
Speaker 26: I got it because I've seen the power belt keep
Speaker 26: going up and up, and I figured at least with Solar, i'd.
Speaker 22: Have one even payment.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so continue your story. So you have solar,
Speaker 2: you have a meter on your garage in your house.
Speaker 2: Keep going yep.
Speaker 26: So the way it was set up is the would
Speaker 26: credit the garage first and then aggregate down to the house.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's been.
Speaker 26: Perfect last three years. I've always produced way more power
Speaker 26: than I needed for both buildings. So my bill has
Speaker 26: been about twenty two dollars on each building.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's pretty good.
Speaker 26: So, and that's just all the connection fees stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, how long have you had the system?
Speaker 6: How long have you had the system?
Speaker 26: June will be I think four years?
Speaker 6: Okay, got it.
Speaker 26: So when they put the smart meters on the first
Speaker 26: month or the first ball I got, the garage was
Speaker 26: two hundred and twelve dollars and the house is two
Speaker 26: hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2: What give me nothing? Else changed. Your bill went from
Speaker 2: twenty two dollars a month to over two hundred. Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: nothing else changed, No, sir, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 26: And so I called him and I was like, hey,
Speaker 26: since the smart meter has been on, what's going on?
Speaker 26: Why is my bill so high?
Speaker 2: And they gave me, well.
Speaker 22: I don't know.
Speaker 26: I don't think your solar's producing. I'm like, well, according
Speaker 26: to my app it is.
Speaker 23: Well.
Speaker 2: Did you also tell him that your history has been
Speaker 2: twenty two dollars a month? Yeah? I told him.
Speaker 26: I was like, look back at my previous bills for
Speaker 26: the last three years. You'll see that it's I have solo.
Speaker 26: That's why why my bills are solo. And then this
Speaker 26: last bill I got because they said, okay, we'll look
Speaker 26: in do it get back to you, and of course
Speaker 26: they never did, so I got another bill.
Speaker 2: Now, by the way, was the smart meter something you
Speaker 2: selected that you wanted to do or did they tell
Speaker 2: you you had.
Speaker 26: To do it that I got an email said we're
Speaker 26: coming out to install smart meters on your property and
Speaker 26: that was pretty much.
Speaker 2: Yet, well, there's got to be an explanation.
Speaker 8: There's no way your usage goes here's the deal, and
Speaker 8: I think Brooke can probably talk to this better. But
Speaker 8: the bottom line is because of that smart meter, what
Speaker 8: I'm guessing is it's not registering the overflow of electricity
Speaker 8: that they're buying from him, or that's going back to
Speaker 8: the grid. I bet you that's it. I just have
Speaker 8: no idea how that's rectified.
Speaker 2: We got to get Brooke on. Let's try to get
Speaker 2: her on. I mean, we do, okay, So anyway, what
Speaker 2: what tell me the latest? What is the latest you're hearing?
Speaker 2: And what's going on with it?
Speaker 25: Well?
Speaker 26: My second bill was five hundred and fifty dollars for
Speaker 26: the shop?
Speaker 2: What what do you do in that shop?
Speaker 26: On a car on the weekend occasionally?
Speaker 2: And and your bill's five hundred dollars fifty?
Speaker 26: Oh my god, I thought he said fifty nothing.
Speaker 7: So there's definitely a problem here.
Speaker 2: Let's just mark it went from twenty two dollars to
Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty.
Speaker 7: When was the smart meter installed?
Speaker 14: It?
Speaker 7: Did all this come about after?
Speaker 26: Yes, sir?
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, let's get her on. She'll know the answer.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's just hold on a second. We got
Speaker 2: to figure out this guy's getting screwed.
Speaker 7: And then, I mean there's no way till Susanna Attixel.
Speaker 7: We absolutely do, so I can send it over to her.
Speaker 8: Yeah, let's get info of what they need to look at,
Speaker 8: and we can get dishandled and get you that credit.
Speaker 6: Bro Yeah, there's got it.
Speaker 2: Well, Richard, what's the latest that Excel tells you though?
Speaker 2: What's the latest?
Speaker 26: I talked to him two weeks ago and I said,
Speaker 26: I looked on your website and seeing these meters are optional,
Speaker 26: I want I'm off my building.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, good?
Speaker 6: What did they say?
Speaker 26: They said they'll schedule something and get back to me
Speaker 26: for the house. And they said the garage, even though
Speaker 26: it's personal, since it's an outbuilding, is considered commercial and
Speaker 26: everybody in the commercial side is out until July.
Speaker 6: Are you kidding? What are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Come on, I.
Speaker 26: Asked them for their business plan, so this is like
Speaker 26: a joke.
Speaker 2: It's like a joke, man, Yes, sir, Okay, hold on,
Speaker 2: We're going to try to get you some help. Let's
Speaker 2: mark this pending, get Brooke on and then let's get
Speaker 2: somebody over it exceled to look into this problem. All right,
Speaker 2: hold on, Richard, we got more coming up on the
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Speaker 2: some of the top selling vehicles happen to be the
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Speaker 6: In the first five years.
Speaker 2: For example, evs, SUVs, hybrids, and trucks are the top
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Speaker 2: for sales. Isn't that weird? So people are buying and
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Speaker 2: understand depreciation. In fact, I doubt anyone checks figures for
Speaker 2: depreciation on models.
Speaker 6: I know I didn't.
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Speaker 7: Well electrics.
Speaker 2: Well actually mark on this on this particular let me
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Speaker 2: appreciate more than you do, way more. Yeah. And now
Speaker 2: now electrics and they are up there, but not what
Speaker 2: you think. For example, on a list of the top twenty,
Speaker 2: Tesla's number nineteen Tesla Model S, I'm number two.
Speaker 7: Wow wa, wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm doing
Speaker 7: just a quick little research here.
Speaker 8: What's my honey, Tom and hold on? The number one
Speaker 8: is an electric car? That's that Jaguar.
Speaker 2: Well, we're looking at a five year depreciation schedule marked
Speaker 2: from MSRP and this poll done.
Speaker 8: By Yeah, this says Jaguar I Pace is number one,
Speaker 8: followed by the BMW.
Speaker 2: I have the Jaguar as nine. But anyway, okay, so
Speaker 2: I'm still number two though, okay, you know it's I'm
Speaker 2: not proud of it. By the way, I'm not bragging saying,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, cool, it's nothing to brag about. And not
Speaker 2: only on them. Let me just go back to the phones.
Speaker 2: I'm getting myself pissed off. So what are we doing
Speaker 2: with what We're already taking care of the smart meter,
Speaker 2: aren't we? So I I don't want to take that
Speaker 2: back again. Let's let's talk to Christopher with a window company.
Speaker 2: Christopher what's going on with you?
Speaker 12: How are you doing, Tom?
Speaker 2: What's happening man?
Speaker 12: Yeah, So recently I had several windows were placed in
Speaker 12: a bush that I'm fixing up.
Speaker 2: Okay, and what kind of windows did you get?
Speaker 3: Just new?
Speaker 12: What would they be made out of? Yes, vinyl? Sorry
Speaker 12: what brand? I don't know the brand. But I got
Speaker 12: it through a company here in town. I price out
Speaker 12: for a few different people. I obviously went through Anderson
Speaker 12: and some of the more known companies. And this guy
Speaker 12: had some good prices. Seemed like a decent fella.
Speaker 2: And who is it? Who is this? Who is this
Speaker 2: decent company?
Speaker 6: And fella.
Speaker 12: All windows and doors plus.
Speaker 6: Okay, and how did you find it?
Speaker 12: He was referred to me by another contractor.
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, so keep going with your story.
Speaker 12: So the house that I'm fixing up is actually two
Speaker 12: houses in one. It was a law office and I'm
Speaker 12: turning it into a duplex. So he did half of
Speaker 12: the house, no real issues. Second side of the house,
Speaker 12: he had a few windows that he measured incorrectly. Had
Speaker 12: to come back and reinstall those. But the reason why
Speaker 12: I'm calling is in the back, I have a big
Speaker 12: bay window that overlooks the Pike's Peak in the front range,
Speaker 12: and rather than enlarging it, which I had asked him
Speaker 12: to do, he made it smaller. And now he has
Speaker 12: claimed that I owe him the money for it, that
Speaker 12: I signed the contract and therefore I'm on the hook.
Speaker 12: Even though I explicitly told him I wanted it to
Speaker 12: be larger. I didn't go back through the contract and
Speaker 12: look at every single measurement and line it up with
Speaker 12: the windows. So I feel like that that is my fault. However,
Speaker 12: I do feel that you know, she agreed to make
Speaker 12: it bigger, and that that would be on him.
Speaker 11: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Okay, Christopher, you have a contract, and I don't think
Speaker 2: any of us ever go through each and every item
Speaker 2: on the contract and measure up or even or I mean,
Speaker 2: we don't look at a lot of specifications. We here's
Speaker 2: what all. Here's what most of us do. We talk
Speaker 2: to the guy or the woman, they make up a contract,
Speaker 2: and then we sign it and we assume everything we talk.
Speaker 2: I know it's really weird, but that's what we do.
Speaker 2: I mean, technically, technically, you probably did agree. When you
Speaker 2: go back and look at the contract, does it have
Speaker 2: the correct size? I mean not the correct But does
Speaker 2: the size in the contract match what they put in? Yes?
Speaker 6: Yes, okay.
Speaker 12: Now I asked for a sixty inch with to twenty
Speaker 12: four inch on either side, and he put in a
Speaker 12: forty three inch with to twenty four inches on either side.
Speaker 2: Okay. Now, when you did the original contract and you
Speaker 2: said you wanted it bigger, you wanted it bigger than what?
Speaker 2: Was there an existing window in there? Was there an
Speaker 2: existing window? Is it the same size as the previous
Speaker 2: window or smaller?
Speaker 12: It's the exact same size.
Speaker 6: Okay, got it.
Speaker 2: Do you have any kind any kind of notes or
Speaker 2: stuff that he wrote to you or anything to indicate
Speaker 2: that you wanted it bigger?
Speaker 12: Well, I was with my designer at the time, and
Speaker 12: when she was drawing up the plans for the building department,
Speaker 12: she actually put in a sixty inch window. Who did
Speaker 12: then my designer?
Speaker 2: Is your designer? Does your designer work for the contractor
Speaker 2: all windows and doors? No? Will your designer testify that
Speaker 2: she heard the conversations between the two of.
Speaker 12: You, Yes, as would my contractor.
Speaker 2: Now, Christopher, listen to what I listen to contract, Christopher,
Speaker 2: and listen to listen to what I'm asking. Will they
Speaker 2: testify that they heard directly, not you saying what it was,
Speaker 2: but you talking to the supplier All Windows and Doors,
Speaker 2: and that you clearly made it that you wanted a
Speaker 2: bigger window in the back. Will they do that?
Speaker 12: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Okay? So your contractor, your designer, and who's All Windows
Speaker 2: and Doors? If they're not your contractor, who are they?
Speaker 12: Just the supplier, the supplier and installer.
Speaker 2: Okay, so your contractor, they worked under your contractor.
Speaker 12: So All Windows and Doors was a name that was
Speaker 12: given to me by somebody that works in the industry
Speaker 12: a while ago. And the contractor I'm working with now
Speaker 12: has no relationship with him.
Speaker 2: Well, but the contractor'rect the contractor you're working with, did
Speaker 2: the whole project. Is that right?
Speaker 12: So he's doing the entire project, and I would say
Speaker 12: that the windows are outside of his purview I hired.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what you're hold on, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2: But why didn't he notice if he heard you say
Speaker 2: I want these windows bigger? I'm going to ask you
Speaker 2: straight up, Christopher, was this guy there when they were
Speaker 2: putting the windows in.
Speaker 12: Or the contractor there when they're putting the windows in? Yes,
Speaker 12: and he said this window seems smaller, called me, I
Speaker 12: was at the office.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, So you had knowledge before it was
Speaker 2: completed that they were installing something smaller.
Speaker 12: They had, they were already in the process of installing it.
Speaker 2: And what did you do? Okay? And what did you do?
Speaker 2: Did you stop them?
Speaker 12: As soon as I got home, I called them and said, hey,
Speaker 12: I think you made a mistake. This window is not
Speaker 12: what we had talked about.
Speaker 2: Okay. And what did they say? Then?
Speaker 12: He said, well, I'm looking at our contract here and
Speaker 12: it says we have a forty three inch window and
Speaker 12: this is what you signed.
Speaker 2: Right, gotcha? Gotcha? Now, when did you have a discussion
Speaker 2: about making it larger? Where the designer and the contractor
Speaker 2: were present. Describe that conversation. You guys were all sitting
Speaker 2: around a table or what.
Speaker 12: We went through the house, looked at what windows were
Speaker 12: going to replace, and.
Speaker 2: All four of you, all four of you, walked through
Speaker 2: the house and talked about Okay, this is good stuff, Christopher,
Speaker 2: all four of you walk through the house. And those
Speaker 2: two will say that you definitely made it clear you
Speaker 2: wanted a bigger window. Yeah, But then the contractor will
Speaker 2: say he even brought up to you that they were
Speaker 2: putting in a smaller window.
Speaker 12: But I may have misspoke when the window had already
Speaker 12: gone in. He said, this doesn't seem like the size
Speaker 12: that we had talked about.
Speaker 2: It was after it was already okay, after it was
Speaker 2: already installed. Okay, Well that's good. Okay, gotcha. So will
Speaker 2: they offer any kind of solution whatsoever, maybe even a
Speaker 2: cost adjustment? Or are you saying it's so hideous you
Speaker 2: want it either enlarged or taken out and you won't
Speaker 2: settle for anything else.
Speaker 12: You know. I even told him I was willing to
Speaker 12: just split the difference in cost if it's more expensive,
Speaker 12: and I would split the labor to have the windows
Speaker 12: taken out and then reinstalled. And he told me to
Speaker 12: kick rocks.
Speaker 6: Who are you dealing with it? All windows and doors?
Speaker 2: Plus who is it is?
Speaker 12: You want his name?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 12: His name is Haven Haven Scott.
Speaker 2: Haven Scott sounds like a movie star. Listen, man, this
Speaker 2: is a tough one. Mark. The contract has a forty
Speaker 2: eight inch window and that's what he got or forty three.
Speaker 6: Whatever it is.
Speaker 2: And yet he had discussions saying he wanted a bigger window.
Speaker 8: It's codect the only real proof unless the other person
Speaker 8: acknowledges they screwed up.
Speaker 7: Is going to be the contract?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the contractor and the designer were there.
Speaker 8: Hey, here's the good news. It's not bigger and he
Speaker 8: wanted it smaller, because no hell of a thing did
Speaker 8: he wanted it bigger. Yeah, I know which I'm saying.
Speaker 8: They can probably cut out. Well maybe not. Actually I
Speaker 8: don't know how they framed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how important is it because this is gonna
Speaker 2: be an expensive battle more right after this? Hi, Tom Martino,
Speaker 2: your troubleshooter three oh three seven one three eight two
Speaker 2: five five.
Speaker 6: Christopher, here's what I think.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna if this ends up in court, let's
Speaker 2: just say first and foremost, I want to dispel something,
Speaker 2: and this is something you I hope you believe it's
Speaker 2: even if you don't want that window, your option is
Speaker 2: not to pay zero for it. You can't claim it
Speaker 2: has zero value. Okay, but but you do have a
Speaker 2: somewhat of a dispute. I think that you're gonna lose
Speaker 2: this just based on the fact that you sign the contract.
Speaker 2: And I agree with you, by the way, and I
Speaker 2: believe you one hundred percent. I believe you one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Many times, salespeople just want to make a sale. And
Speaker 2: I swear to God, they say things and they nod
Speaker 2: their heads and they get people to sign. Like that
Speaker 2: guy with the solar system, I'm.
Speaker 6: Positive that he was lied to.
Speaker 2: But when it gets down to court, mark and I
Speaker 2: have seen our share of cases where the judge doesn't care.
Speaker 2: I mean, I swear to you, it almost it's almost brutal.
Speaker 2: It's not like they say, oh, this poor homeowner up
Speaker 2: against this big contractor. They don't do that. And when
Speaker 2: and when your people try to try to submit ear
Speaker 2: witness testimony that they were there when you talked about it,
Speaker 2: they're going to say, here's the way it would go. Okay,
Speaker 2: so he wanted it enlarged. What size did he say
Speaker 2: he wanted and what will they answer? What will they answer?
Speaker 2: They'll say, well, we don't know. He just said he
Speaker 2: wanted it larger. Well, then then shouldn't he have measured
Speaker 2: it and checked it? In other words, I'm just telling
Speaker 2: you the bad news. First, I think you're gonna lose it.
Speaker 2: But if you want to fight it properly, the way
Speaker 2: to do it is to pay the bill and then
Speaker 2: go after them for the differential and then use the
Speaker 2: testimony of those two people and that all keeps it
Speaker 2: within small claims court. But if you try to do
Speaker 2: it any other way, you're going to spend a lot
Speaker 2: of money for nothing. In my opinion, I'm Tom Martinet.
Speaker 10: You don't have.
Speaker 4: A good good coming, man Dix.
Speaker 5: Is the Troubleshooter Show, No, Tom Martino.
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Speaker 2: cars today. It's Friday, It's car Day. We've had a
Speaker 2: lot of different car issues. We'll go with it right now.
Speaker 2: And then we're also were talking about things you remember
Speaker 2: from your childhood, and we were talking about some of
Speaker 2: the drinks and one that I associated always with New York.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but it's the egg cream. You'd
Speaker 2: go to a soda fountain they call it, and you
Speaker 2: sit down and have an egg cream, and an egg
Speaker 2: cream would be an egg, seltzer, water and flavoring. And
Speaker 2: then they did away with the egg but they still
Speaker 2: did some cream and some dairy along with seltzer and
Speaker 2: a flavoring, usually vanilla or chocolate. And then one of
Speaker 2: the biggest treats I always had, and you just don't
Speaker 2: see it around that much anymore.
Speaker 6: Are you Who's.
Speaker 2: Us a big deal?
Speaker 7: You Who's everywhere you can buy?
Speaker 2: Are they still everywhere? Okay? Okay? And then I love
Speaker 2: you who with barbecue potato chips? That used to be
Speaker 2: my jam. I don't eat barbecue potato chips anymore, but
Speaker 2: I I remember it went went on a summer day.
Speaker 2: We'd go and get cold you Who's and have some
Speaker 2: barbecue chips. I I thought I died. I went to
Speaker 2: heaven the first time I tasted a barbecue chip. Anyway,
Speaker 2: what I'd like to do is, if you have any
Speaker 2: go on YouTube or gone or text me, uh five
Speaker 2: seven seven three nine. I'd like to know some of
Speaker 2: your favorites from your kid growing up. Another thing that
Speaker 2: used to be big that I don't see a lot of.
Speaker 2: Of course I'm seventy one. That could be why I
Speaker 2: don't see a lot of it. But you don't see
Speaker 2: kids with it anymore. Wax stuff, wax lips, wax teeth.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that wax mustag like little wax soda.
Speaker 7: Bottles with them in the office here?
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, wax teeth from the local candy store, gas
Speaker 8: girl Friday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the wax used to be so freaking weird. You
Speaker 2: would wear the wax, of course, just as a joker.
Speaker 2: Then you would take it and chew it anyway. Jerry
Speaker 2: wants to talk about a car sale. Jerry, what's going
Speaker 2: on with you? Welcome to the show.
Speaker 27: Yeah, I went on Monday with my granddaughter to buy
Speaker 27: a car. She and everyone, Well, we got the little
Speaker 27: flip that present five days that.
Speaker 2: Two days later, what kind of wait, wait, tell me first,
Speaker 2: what kind of car did you buy?
Speaker 27: It's twenty ten Nissan Morano.
Speaker 2: And how many miles.
Speaker 27: Ninety three ninety eight thousand miles.
Speaker 2: Ninety eight thousand, and what did you pay?
Speaker 27: I want to say, sixty four hundred.
Speaker 2: Fish all right, do you have the radio on?
Speaker 27: Yeah, I'll turn that off the bat.
Speaker 2: It's really confusing as hell. Yeah, So he bought a
Speaker 2: twenty ten Nissan Morano ninety eight thousand miles for about
Speaker 2: six grand. Right, okay, so what's the problem.
Speaker 27: Yeah, so no problem?
Speaker 14: Will we got it?
Speaker 27: Two days later, the check engine light on went on.
Speaker 27: She had not got an admission, but when she went
Speaker 27: to like AutoZone to get the report on why the
Speaker 27: check edgin light on, it came back saying that it
Speaker 27: will pass, it will fail emissions. I reached out to.
Speaker 2: The sales guy.
Speaker 27: He assuredly they would address it, but they can't get
Speaker 27: it fixed for they have their own auto guys. They
Speaker 27: kind of get a six till two days? Is there
Speaker 27: anything more I need to do at this point?
Speaker 2: Broll you you better, Jerry, you better protect yourself because
Speaker 2: here's what I think is going to happen. I don't
Speaker 2: know this dealer from anywhere. You didn't mention the dealer,
Speaker 2: but you have a window to get that that that emissions,
Speaker 2: and if it doesn't pass and you go past that window,
Speaker 2: you're screwed.
Speaker 6: So what was the deadline?
Speaker 27: It will be five days from Monday. So I'm guessing
Speaker 27: what Saturday, Do.
Speaker 6: Not keep the car?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm telling you that if you hold on, you
Speaker 2: either get a new voucher or you return the car.
Speaker 22: If you keep test so that you've got a failed emission.
Speaker 2: So you stand on. Yeah, do you have the failed emissions?
Speaker 14: I know.
Speaker 27: So all I have is the indicator for model zone
Speaker 27: saying it will not pass the mission.
Speaker 2: Jerry, that's not good man.
Speaker 7: You've got to go try to get it to pass.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, No, that's not good enough.
Speaker 7: You better go do it today. Man.
Speaker 2: Now, Jerry, I'm gonna tell you something. Listen carefully. The
Speaker 2: emissions is not a warranty program. Because here's what I
Speaker 2: want to tell you. We've had people in this situation
Speaker 2: where they go to pass emissions and the guy says,
Speaker 2: it's not going to pass emissions by the way, you
Speaker 2: need it needs some adjustment. Now you take it to
Speaker 2: a mechanic. The mechanic says the engine's bad. However, it
Speaker 2: will pass emissions if I adjust this carburetor here, or
Speaker 2: adjust the air mixture, adjustice, or adjust that. And you
Speaker 2: might think to yourself, oh no, don't adjust it. If
Speaker 2: it's got a bad engine. I want to return it.
Speaker 2: It's not you can't use it for that. In other words,
Speaker 2: if you can make a slight adjustment, even with a
Speaker 2: bad engine, and it will pass emissions, that's the only
Speaker 2: responsible ability the dealer has with you is that at
Speaker 2: pass emissions, not that it pass emissions with flying colors,
Speaker 2: not that it pass emissions with a new engine. That
Speaker 2: at pass emissions even if it limps by. You got
Speaker 2: to keep.
Speaker 7: That in mind.
Speaker 2: Do not let them delay you. Go get the failure
Speaker 2: if it does fail, and take the car back. And
Speaker 2: if they say to you, if you give us a
Speaker 2: few days, we will fix it, make them issue you
Speaker 2: a new voucher. Okay. Now, now, Jerry, I have some
Speaker 2: questions for you on this. You bought it as is.
Speaker 2: Did you get it checked out?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 2: Okay? Did it occur to you that that would be
Speaker 2: a good idea.
Speaker 27: I occurred to me that there were no indicator lights
Speaker 27: or anything. And that's what I rambling. Oh kay, were
Speaker 27: no issues on the life and you know everything.
Speaker 2: Didn't say check Jerry, Jerry, that's not a good indication
Speaker 2: that there are no lights. That's not a very that
Speaker 2: that's only a small, small indication of his health.
Speaker 6: But listen, here's what you need to do now.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I would get a used car checkout
Speaker 2: right now. Get the failed emissions and the reason I
Speaker 2: tell you to get a used car checkout, so if
Speaker 2: they say to you, you know, we're going to fix
Speaker 2: it so it passes emissions, you can make sure it's
Speaker 2: not one of those major problems lurking you're gonna have,
Speaker 2: You're gonna you might have a tough time in my
Speaker 2: pass emissions. I don't know, Hey, Jeff, what does that
Speaker 2: auto parts to or do to predict whether it's going
Speaker 2: to pass?
Speaker 14: Do they actually run it?
Speaker 22: They've got some cheaper hand health scanners. It'll pull you know,
Speaker 22: the majority of codes. They don't always go deep enough
Speaker 22: to get to the rest of them.
Speaker 2: And then they'll did auto is it AutoZone that did this?
Speaker 27: Yeah, this is my granddaughter. She took it there and
Speaker 27: sent me the report.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 22: And then basically people say, okay, you'll you'll pe seven
Speaker 22: one three, and they'll tell them what that code is
Speaker 22: and they you know, there's usually a recommendation for whatever
Speaker 22: part that they're trying to sell them.
Speaker 2: You know, here's something that's really weird. They love it
Speaker 2: when he called and said the reader said it won't pass,
Speaker 2: and they said, don't worry about it, we'll take care
Speaker 2: of it next week. They're trying to get them past
Speaker 2: that grace period. How many times have we seen that
Speaker 2: mark where they go past that grace period and they're screwed,
Speaker 2: oh big time all the time. So anyway, make sure
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Speaker 2: One guy says. My kid treat One of my favorite
Speaker 2: kid treat was something called a Mickey flip. Who have
Speaker 2: ever have you ever heard of.
Speaker 6: A Mickey flip?
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's a taco shaped.
Speaker 6: Like a twinkie, a Mickey flip.
Speaker 2: I don't even I've never even heard of it before.
Speaker 2: Mickey And once again, my computer fills it in before
Speaker 2: I even put it up there because I'm being spied on,
Speaker 2: Mickey flip.
Speaker 6: God, I've never even seen it.
Speaker 2: I can't even even when you google it, you don't
Speaker 2: find anything.
Speaker 23: Nah.
Speaker 7: Maybe his mom made it for him, like a good
Speaker 7: old house burger.
Speaker 9: Hey, Tom, you remember having a lime Ricky to go?
Speaker 2: Let me cream? What is that alive?
Speaker 7: Rocky with cherry soda and lime juice?
Speaker 2: No, never had it. I've had a cherry cos Yeah. Anything?
Speaker 23: Andy?
Speaker 2: Oh no, not Andy. I'm sorry, Frank, Frank, Frank, go ahead,
Speaker 2: what's going on with you? Frank?
Speaker 27: Question?
Speaker 28: I wanted to tell you that my computer does the
Speaker 28: same thing my phone. If I think of a song,
Speaker 28: it'll already have it when I go press it.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, if you think, Wait, if you think
Speaker 2: of a.
Speaker 28: Song, it'll already be there, no matter how random it is.
Speaker 28: Because I'm being spied.
Speaker 2: On, just like Yeah, but it doesn't spot Hold on, Frank,
Speaker 2: it doesn't read your mind.
Speaker 8: He probably talks out loud, doesn't realize he's talking right anyway.
Speaker 2: What did you call about today, Frank?
Speaker 28: I called because I want to wondering if I could
Speaker 28: put some cell towers at my house. I live in Cheyenne,
Speaker 28: Wyo means and of course I would have to check
Speaker 28: with the municipalities. But a friend of mine they approached
Speaker 28: him and they said, hey, we'll pay you this much
Speaker 28: a month.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, And you don't, by the way, you
Speaker 2: don't have to check with your municipality at all. All
Speaker 2: you have to do is this, call the cell phone
Speaker 2: companies and tell them that you are willing to grant
Speaker 2: them the rights to put up a tower. Okay, that'll work,
Speaker 2: and then they will do they will do the research
Speaker 2: to make sure it will work on their grid, and
Speaker 2: then they do all of the application process and all
Speaker 2: of that. But remember, just because you want it doesn't
Speaker 2: mean it's going to be allowed. It may not be allowed, right,
Speaker 2: but you can get you can get paid for it.
Speaker 2: And I know people who have rural property that love
Speaker 2: these things. How much is your friend getting paid.
Speaker 3: I think they're.
Speaker 28: Giving them about three hundred bucks a month. And it's
Speaker 28: only one company.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just a small tower.
Speaker 17: Yeah, Okay, it's.
Speaker 28: Just that I think it's ridiculous the ones that I
Speaker 28: see going towards Capital Rock because okay, they still look
Speaker 28: like some cell tower, but they put a couple of branches.
Speaker 8: You want to you want to call the cell tower company,
Speaker 8: So don't call up at and T. I mean, you're
Speaker 8: never going to talk to anybody. There's like r F Towers. Yeah,
Speaker 8: r F Towers and Cheyenne.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Frank. I got to move on
Speaker 2: to Colleen. She's been waiting a while. Oh no, Andy's first, Andy,
Speaker 2: what's going on with you? Andy?
Speaker 6: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: I'm Tom Martine.
Speaker 14: Hi.
Speaker 29: Well, I'm just running down to get my partner here
Speaker 29: to help me. So I had reached out to air
Speaker 29: Chimney to have my heart and my fireplace redime back
Speaker 29: in November.
Speaker 2: And what's the name of the company. What's the name
Speaker 2: of the company?
Speaker 29: Ar Chimney.
Speaker 2: Aar Chimney, got it, okay? And what's going on?
Speaker 20: I't me to just run through a real quick time
Speaker 20: minds Neil. So we had a contract with them for
Speaker 20: a replacement hurt and to have what was it slate
Speaker 20: work done?
Speaker 29: Yeah, just like the faith of the face of the child.
Speaker 20: Yeah, And we had given them the whole cost of
Speaker 20: the was fifty four hundred dollars. We gave them a
Speaker 20: deposit of twenty five hundred dollars. We're supposed to set
Speaker 20: this up for November.
Speaker 27: It was like made November.
Speaker 20: Like November twenty third or something like that. Andy had
Speaker 20: contacted them the day before saying, sorry, that day's not
Speaker 20: going to work and there's a problem with that, that
Speaker 20: we rescheduled. They said, absolutely, no problem. They suggested December twelfth.
Speaker 20: Unfortunately I had forgotten that's my birthday. It's a Saturday,
Speaker 20: you see. Contact with them again the day before and said, look,
Speaker 20: we have to reschedule again. I'm super sorry, and they
Speaker 20: said okay, little you know, thumbs up and thumbs up emoji. Well,
Speaker 20: our situation changed a little bit in March, and we
Speaker 20: weren't we we we uh, We told them that we
Speaker 20: currently cannot proceed. We have to sort of pull back
Speaker 20: a little bit on a number of our renovations. Renovations
Speaker 20: and we.
Speaker 2: Have did you have it, by the way, did you
Speaker 2: have a contract with them?
Speaker 26: So what we have with them is we just pulled this.
Speaker 2: If it's if it's listen, if it's just a proposal,
Speaker 2: if it's just a proposal and a and a deposit,
Speaker 2: they can't keep it.
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, I would totally agree with that. So it
Speaker 20: is listed as an invoice and there's the heat installation
Speaker 20: in parts sorry installed pree purchased heat for the client
Speaker 20: and then a stonewash. And they told us when we
Speaker 20: said that, you know, look, we can't go forward. They
Speaker 20: we have all texts written out on this thing, which
Speaker 20: is a super helpful. Yeah, they sold Andy it is
Speaker 20: non refundable. There's nothing in the document that even has
Speaker 20: the word non let alone refundable. Yeah, And we started
Speaker 20: to complain with them a little bit about it.
Speaker 14: We were able to.
Speaker 20: Pull back our initial credit card deposit of about five
Speaker 20: hundred dollars. We have that that we done a credit
Speaker 20: card and Mark so Andy called up the credit card
Speaker 20: company said it was a fraud issue. They pulled it back.
Speaker 20: The company recharged us three days ago.
Speaker 2: So how much did.
Speaker 6: They recharge you?
Speaker 2: Did they recharge you that five hundred dollars?
Speaker 22: Whatever?
Speaker 20: That amount was? Four hundred thet written out folks ninete,
Speaker 20: But where.
Speaker 2: Did the other two? Where did the other two thousand
Speaker 2: come from?
Speaker 20: So I paid them via Venmo, which I have obviously
Speaker 20: the documentation for that, and I asked them very nicely,
Speaker 20: could you could you is.
Speaker 2: The name is the name of this company? Is the
Speaker 2: name of this company?
Speaker 20: Any a r Yees are chimney pros.
Speaker 22: They're based in Lakewood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but why do they Here's what I don't understand.
Speaker 2: If they didn't expend any money, why do they think
Speaker 2: they should keep it? Or are they claiming they purchased
Speaker 2: money for your stuff for your job.
Speaker 30: No, they're not even saying any of that. Like, the
Speaker 30: property is ten minutes outside of us, that's park and
Speaker 30: I do a lot of money. I do a lot
Speaker 30: of renovations, and this is like a mountain hustle. This
Speaker 30: happens to.
Speaker 29: Me all the time. So when I called them, I said,
Speaker 29: I'm not going to let you do this because I'm
Speaker 29: doing something for the community.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what it doesn't matter what the reason is, Andy,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what the reason is. They need to
Speaker 2: give your money back. I want to give this to
Speaker 2: Deputy doc. Doc. Are you there? What do you think
Speaker 2: of this? A bunch of they listen. Under the Contractor's
Speaker 2: Trust Act, they can't keep anything unless it was marked
Speaker 2: non refundable or it was used for the job. But
Speaker 2: then they'd have to prove that, Andy, these people should
Speaker 2: not keep your money. I mean tells me. They the
Speaker 2: fact that they're not giving that money box tells me
Speaker 2: that they spent it. Let's have Doc call that.
Speaker 16: It's a.
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Speaker 2: and see what they say. I'm Tom Martino three O
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Speaker 2: Mary, what's going on with you?
Speaker 7: Mary?
Speaker 6: What's happening.
Speaker 3: Him?
Speaker 14: Hi?
Speaker 6: What's going on?
Speaker 19: Well?
Speaker 3: We kind of touched base really briefly the other day
Speaker 3: about a auto repair shop in Littleton wait Waite.
Speaker 2: Was this when your car was on the side of
Speaker 2: the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then yeah, it took me four months to
Speaker 3: raise money with like gofund me to pay for a
Speaker 3: new engine and got the car back.
Speaker 2: Let's back, let's back up a little. Now, you're the
Speaker 2: car that you had. How long had you had that car? Well?
Speaker 3: I just bought it in March of last year, and
Speaker 3: then I drove it up until August, I think when it.
Speaker 2: Broke and when you when you had it, Toad, So
Speaker 2: when your car stalled and it was towed to Tailor Automotive,
Speaker 2: that was back in August of twenty twenty five four.
Speaker 3: Yes, I believe, so, I don't have the exact No,
Speaker 3: that's okay.
Speaker 2: Then what happened then in September? Well, okay, that's a
Speaker 2: long time ago. What happened after that?
Speaker 3: Well, because I'm a single mom of four and I
Speaker 3: had some injuries. I couldn't do massage anymore. My only
Speaker 3: job was Uber deliveries and yeah, so I lost my
Speaker 3: income and it took quite a while to pay.
Speaker 2: Was the engine blown? What was wrong with the car?
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, it didn't like it didn't seem like it
Speaker 3: was just throwing a couple codes for like a camsheft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what did Taylor say with what did Taylor
Speaker 2: say was wrong with the car?
Speaker 3: Originally they told me it was just the timing, and
Speaker 3: then they told me that I needed to have a
Speaker 3: whole engine replacement and they were also going to do
Speaker 3: the redo the wiring for me. But cut to four
Speaker 3: months later. I had actually, like a local business paid
Speaker 3: a good portion of the cost for me and my
Speaker 3: kids to have the engine replaced. And after that, after
Speaker 3: I got it back late December, three days later, the
Speaker 3: bumper fell off and like the headlights.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me get this straight. Let me get
Speaker 2: this straight. When did you finally get your car back?
Speaker 2: A friend paid for the repairs? And when did you
Speaker 2: get your car back?
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was it was me and then a local business.
Speaker 3: And a friend.
Speaker 29: I got it.
Speaker 2: So when did you get your car back? If you
Speaker 2: could answer that, that would help me. When did you
Speaker 2: get it back?
Speaker 3: It was in late December, but it did go.
Speaker 2: Okay back to the shop okay, And so there were
Speaker 2: other problems. Did you ever get it back after that?
Speaker 3: Yes, so I got it back. It was just continual
Speaker 3: issues with the engine. And I have like videos and
Speaker 3: stuff where they.
Speaker 2: Do you have any would you have any warranty work
Speaker 2: on this?
Speaker 14: You know?
Speaker 3: Part of the problem was that they didn't even communicate
Speaker 3: with me and get my permission to do work that
Speaker 3: they were doing.
Speaker 2: Hold on a second, let me are you okay? Are
Speaker 2: you saying you never authorized the work?
Speaker 12: Sorry?
Speaker 31: Cut out there, God Garbily, are you saying you never
Speaker 31: authorize them to work on your car?
Speaker 6: You didn't want this work.
Speaker 3: Done, not the work that they did once it was
Speaker 3: returned to them. They were didn't tell me what was.
Speaker 2: Going on when it was returned to them. What work
Speaker 2: I just need to know this. What work did they
Speaker 2: do that they were not authorized to do?
Speaker 6: What work?
Speaker 3: There was several things. What they would do is end
Speaker 3: up saying, oh, come pick up your car after a
Speaker 3: week or two, and then they would make up some
Speaker 3: story about what was wrong with it and often tried
Speaker 3: to blame me or even claimed that somebody.
Speaker 2: What work did they do that you did not authorize?
Speaker 3: Well, part of it I don't know because they won't
Speaker 3: give me records. But they did do supposedly replace the
Speaker 3: oil filter housing, which they claimed a vandal broke in
Speaker 3: the middle of the night in my Highland's ranch. Neighborhood
Speaker 3: by doing an oil change.
Speaker 2: And Mary, Yeah, what work did they do that you
Speaker 2: did not authorize that you had to pay for? What
Speaker 2: work did you pay for that you did not authorize?
Speaker 3: For sure? I know that they claimed that they replaced
Speaker 3: multiple relays and again the same sensors that had already
Speaker 3: been And how.
Speaker 2: Much did you pay for the work you did not authorize?
Speaker 3: Somewhere around five hundred dollars. But they also were like
Speaker 3: charging me for parts that should have been included in
Speaker 3: the engine replacement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what.
Speaker 3: Gaskets and seals? And I did send over the record
Speaker 3: from Audi of Denver the other night, and like, this
Speaker 3: engine repair is just completely botched.
Speaker 2: Well where let let me let me ask you something
Speaker 2: right now? Where does it stand? Where is your car
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: My car is sitting outside of Broadway Jewelry and Pond
Speaker 3: because I have a friend that works there who's a
Speaker 3: really nice guy. It's basically junk, Like I can't even
Speaker 3: it's not safe to drive.
Speaker 2: So how many before this happened to your car? How
Speaker 2: many miles were on it?
Speaker 3: Somewhere around it was literally right around two hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty two thousand.
Speaker 2: What kind of car is it.
Speaker 3: It's a two thousand and eight AUTI a four.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you understand that that car was worth nothing.
Speaker 6: At all?
Speaker 2: I mean, in other words, it was junk to begin with.
Speaker 2: Whatever they did, it's not great, but they did and
Speaker 2: cause it to be junk.
Speaker 3: Well, they did. They damaged a bunch of things, like
Speaker 3: the it's.
Speaker 2: A twenty it's a twenty year old car with two
Speaker 2: hundred and some thousand miles on it.
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean I paid for a whole new engine.
Speaker 2: That's how much did you pay?
Speaker 6: By the way, how much did they charge for that?
Speaker 3: Four thousand dollars?
Speaker 2: Oh? Why would you spend that much money on a
Speaker 2: car that wasn't worth it?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm really low in home because of the injuries
Speaker 3: I had and just doing Uber deliveries. And one of
Speaker 3: the issues I've consistently have is you know, do you
Speaker 3: because I don't just have a large chunk of money
Speaker 3: all at once, and I couldn't finance car.
Speaker 2: Got it? I got it going. I understand car. So
Speaker 2: right now, Mary, right now, I need to know something.
Speaker 2: What do you want?
Speaker 3: I want a refund for the engine.
Speaker 6: You may be entitled to that.
Speaker 2: If they did junk and if they truly cheated you.
Speaker 2: You might be you may be able to get that
Speaker 2: through small claims court. When you I mean, it would
Speaker 2: be smart to get that money back and have your
Speaker 2: friend help you buy another car instead of putting money
Speaker 2: into this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the plan. I mean they were like,
Speaker 3: they mistreated me and my kids. And there's a whole
Speaker 3: list of just you.
Speaker 2: Know, but that part here, Mary, people are jerks and
Speaker 2: if he mistreated you and all that, none of that's
Speaker 2: going to matter. Here's the only thing that matters, the
Speaker 2: only thing. Did they cheat you?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean in the road from Audi of Denver shows
Speaker 3: that they did.
Speaker 2: Okay, what does Audi of Denver say about your car?
Speaker 10: Oh, there was.
Speaker 3: There was a lot, a long list. But in regards
Speaker 3: to the engine itself, yeah, I was charged again multiple
Speaker 3: times for these gas sets and seals suppose and I
Speaker 3: do have videos where the shop has admitted that they
Speaker 3: probably never needed to.
Speaker 2: What I want to know is what does Audi of
Speaker 2: Denver say about the engine job that was defective?
Speaker 14: It's Scott.
Speaker 3: I mean, i'd have to refer to the list that
Speaker 3: I sent you.
Speaker 2: Just roughly, just roughly, do they say you were cheated
Speaker 2: or or do they use words like they never replace this,
Speaker 2: they never did this.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, exactly. They said they were not new
Speaker 3: seals that the engine has issues.
Speaker 2: But here's what I want to know, though, did you
Speaker 2: get charged? See here's what we have to make. We
Speaker 2: have to make a case for fraud. So Mary, it's
Speaker 2: not important that it was a poor job, believe it
Speaker 2: or not. What's important is if they cheated you.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you what that means.
Speaker 2: That means that they charged you for things and lied
Speaker 2: to you about it. They didn't replace it, or they
Speaker 2: replaced something with a used part and they claimed it
Speaker 2: was rebuilt. I need to know if Audi have denver
Speaker 2: made any of those kinds of statements.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I did kind of gather some of that
Speaker 3: and send it over the other night. So it's it's
Speaker 3: very clear that that's exactly what happened. Okay, admit it
Speaker 3: in some of the videos I have too, And Okay,
Speaker 3: like they were trying have you ever thought vehicles on fire?
Speaker 2: How so you you want the four grand back?
Speaker 6: Have you asked them for it?
Speaker 3: I tried to reach out to one of the owners
Speaker 3: just via text, which was how we had been communicating,
Speaker 3: and he.
Speaker 6: Were the owners there, Taylor Automotive.
Speaker 3: One of them is named David, and he's he's a
Speaker 3: harder one to do with verbally. But then there's a
Speaker 3: man named John. I believe his last name is Thornson,
Speaker 3: and I had texted with him off and on for
Speaker 3: a while.
Speaker 10: He do they offer you?
Speaker 2: Do they offer you anything at all?
Speaker 26: No?
Speaker 3: He claimed that he didn't work there anymore, and then
Speaker 3: later in the same conversation, claimed that it was okay,
Speaker 3: that's number anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't you know one thing you have to know, Mary,
Speaker 2: I don't care about all that side stuff. I don't
Speaker 2: care about it at all. We got to stay on track.
Speaker 2: Did they offer you anything at all?
Speaker 6: I guess she's no longer with us.
Speaker 3: Sorry, No, it's got garbled there for a second.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm sorry. Did they offer you anything at all? No?
Speaker 3: They are just deflecting and mostly avoiding me.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we first need to have someone reach out
Speaker 2: to them and just reason with them to see if.
Speaker 6: They're willing to do anything.
Speaker 2: We need to First, we need to see that invoice
Speaker 2: that you have from outa of Denver. I want to
Speaker 2: make sure that that invoice as the same thing you
Speaker 2: say it says, okay, like I want to see it. So, Kachina,
Speaker 2: if you could arrange for me to look at that
Speaker 2: invoice from Audi of Denver where they check the car out,
Speaker 2: then after that, I want to give it to one
Speaker 2: of our people to look at. Jeff Vic Kimera Transmission
Speaker 2: will tell you this.
Speaker 6: We'll talk to him after the break.
Speaker 2: But you can have an invoice where things are done
Speaker 2: but it wasn't worth being done, or it was done poorly,
Speaker 2: but it was done. That's different than fraud. So we'll
Speaker 2: come back and talk about that and more right after this. Hi,
Speaker 2: Tom Martinez here three on three seven, three eight two
Speaker 2: five five. All right, so let's give that to Deputy
Speaker 2: Bow and see what we can do to help, because
Speaker 2: really and truly, God, these used car problems are killing me.
Speaker 2: Think about all the problems we get. I mean, people
Speaker 2: are buying cars with two hundred thousand miles on them,
Speaker 2: and then they almost act surprised when they have a problem.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's not your fault.
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming you for buying cars with two hundred
Speaker 2: thousand miles on them. I understand that you're doing what
Speaker 2: you can to get the price down, but I have
Speaker 2: to make a blanket statement here, never never buy a car,
Speaker 2: never with more than one hundred and fifty thousand. Never,
Speaker 2: And if you buy a car with one hundred thousand,
Speaker 2: don't ever expect not to have problems. You will definitely
Speaker 2: have problems with a car over one hundred thousand miles
Speaker 2: and over one hundred and fifty thousand miles. Almost any
Speaker 2: repair is not worth doing, So you have to understand
Speaker 2: something you're throwing money away. Case Welcome, what's going on? Case?
Speaker 6: Hey?
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Speaker 14: Are you there?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a nice little community. Yeah. I would say it's
Speaker 2: R rated. I don't mean like that, I don't mean
Speaker 2: like sexually. Yeah, Joe's got a problem getting paid. I
Speaker 2: hate when people are screwed out of getting paid. So, Joe,
Speaker 2: what's going on with you?
Speaker 32: Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 14: Tom?
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm doing okay, but it sounds like you're not.
Speaker 2: What's going on with that payment?
Speaker 15: Oh man, the guys left the country, left us with
Speaker 15: ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: No, wait a minute, wait a minute, tell me who
Speaker 2: owes you the money?
Speaker 15: Well, this is the guy.
Speaker 14: That we've known for.
Speaker 15: I want to say about about ten years.
Speaker 2: Okay, and what what did you? What did you do
Speaker 2: for him?
Speaker 15: We did the We did all the carpet in his condo,
Speaker 15: We painted and retatured all we took up all the
Speaker 15: pop pun on the ceilings. We textured it and painted
Speaker 15: it painted on the walls.
Speaker 2: And you and you say, you knew this guy for
Speaker 2: more than ten years.
Speaker 14: Yeah, so you.
Speaker 15: Know, we felt comfortable and the fact that he was
Speaker 15: in the pays or and he had a little pickup truck,
Speaker 15: and we said, well, you know you don't have the money.
Speaker 15: You know, well what they payment in the pickup truck. Well,
Speaker 15: about a month ago he sold the pickup truck without
Speaker 15: anybody knowing. And we all we we knew that he
Speaker 15: was going to leave the country. Was did he leave? Wait?
Speaker 2: Wait, wait wait, did he leave the country? Yeah?
Speaker 15: He left he left our tuesday without anybody knowing.
Speaker 2: We got he found well this okay, Joe, not all
Speaker 2: is not lost.
Speaker 6: Hold on how much does he owe you?
Speaker 15: He owes us about ten thousand, he owes us about six,
Speaker 15: and he owes us another guy that we know about.
Speaker 17: Four Okay, in total, well, in total.
Speaker 15: About ten ten thousand. And what he left behind, Okay,
Speaker 15: you're trying to figure out, I don't know mething on
Speaker 15: how to collect it.
Speaker 2: Well, you throw hold on, Joe, Joe, you don't have
Speaker 2: to connect anything. You're overthinking this thing. Bro, you did
Speaker 2: work on a condo, Is that right or not?
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a condo down there, Centennial.
Speaker 2: Then go put a lien on it.
Speaker 6: What are you waiting? When was the last time you
Speaker 6: were on the job.
Speaker 15: Oh, this was already already in December of last year.
Speaker 15: Then if we have enough time, No.
Speaker 6: You screwed yourself.
Speaker 2: No, too late.
Speaker 15: Yeah it might be too late.
Speaker 2: It is too late. But that's that's your fault. That's
Speaker 2: your fault. You could have got aleen. You could have
Speaker 2: gotten a lien and gotten it paid for.
Speaker 15: Yeah, we should have followed a lien before. Like that's
Speaker 15: what I was thinking too, is like, oh man, well yeah,
Speaker 15: so let me.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something.
Speaker 2: Is the condo sold?
Speaker 15: It's sold as a Tuesday of this week.
Speaker 2: So he did sell it, So you're screwed again. It
Speaker 2: wouldn't matter he sold it.
Speaker 15: Yeah, we have no recourse. That's what I was thinking too.
Speaker 15: We can't how.
Speaker 6: Did he so so? How much?
Speaker 14: So?
Speaker 2: So he owed ten grand to you guys, and he
Speaker 2: sold the condo and he didn't tell you about it.
Speaker 15: Yeah, he didn't say nothing. And uh, he was not
Speaker 15: necessary a close friend but pushing that. We we would
Speaker 15: regarded like we would touch He's touched the ball. He's
Speaker 15: a trustable dude, so.
Speaker 2: We would so have you. But do you have his
Speaker 2: Do you have his phone number, his cell number?
Speaker 15: Yeah, we've got his number and everything. He said Turkey
Speaker 15: right now, he's whare on his way to in Turkey?
Speaker 2: What's he doing in Turkey? What is he doing in Turkey?
Speaker 2: Maybe he's getting a hand transplant? Yeah? What is he
Speaker 2: doing in Turkey? Seriously?
Speaker 15: I think he's on the layo or to get to
Speaker 15: Greece or something. So that's where that's where his destination
Speaker 15: is in Greece.
Speaker 2: Is he gonna live there?
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's he's yeah, actually plans to live up there
Speaker 15: in Greece. He's not on vacation or nothing.
Speaker 2: Joe, you're not going to get that. You're not going
Speaker 2: to get this money, bro, You're not going to get it.
Speaker 2: It's it's a waste of time. I mean, you don't
Speaker 2: do you have any proof he even owes you the money?
Speaker 2: What if he says, I have no idea what you're
Speaker 2: talking about? So how would you prove he owes you money?
Speaker 15: Uh? Yeah, there's really no contracts there. But I do
Speaker 15: have a material list and a dog. One point in
Speaker 15: particularly so.
Speaker 2: That condos sold yep, I don't. I don't see Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm being straight with you, man, there's no way you're
Speaker 2: going to get paid. It's just not going to happen.
Speaker 26: Yeah.
Speaker 15: Well, I mean that's all. I wanted to give you
Speaker 15: a call too, And to other listeners, you know, just
Speaker 15: be careful.
Speaker 2: So there are WHOA my god, I hope I hope
Speaker 2: those listening to me already know that, Joe. I mean god,
Speaker 2: I would hope yeah, because it's just it's terrible.
Speaker 6: Thank you for calling, Joe. I'm really sorry.
Speaker 2: Man. Listen, people, when you stop, when you stop working
Speaker 2: on a job, you only have four months to file
Speaker 2: that lian, and first you have to file a warning
Speaker 2: that you're going to file a lean. Mike, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today, Mike? What's going on? Man?
Speaker 14: Hey?
Speaker 26: Man, Hey, I was caught in that hail storm. I
Speaker 26: live in Milliken, and I want to know do I
Speaker 26: call the insurance company first or the adjuster to get
Speaker 26: him out to look at my house?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call either of them.
Speaker 6: Here's why.
Speaker 2: If you call your insurance company and they send an adjuster.
Speaker 6: Or the adjuster director.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, and there's no damage to your home,
Speaker 2: it will count as a claim. Correct, So you shouldn't
Speaker 2: call You should not call your insurance company. First, you
Speaker 2: should call a reputable roofer. But here's what I want
Speaker 2: to tell you. When you call a roofer to come
Speaker 2: check out your house, do not sign any contracts. Yes,
Speaker 2: and that means don't sign anything. If they say, well,
Speaker 2: you got to sign here to give us authorization, No
Speaker 2: you don't. I want to tell everyone right now, there
Speaker 2: is nothing required that you sign for someone to look
Speaker 2: at your roof. Nothing is required, not by the homeowner,
Speaker 2: not by the county, not by the state, no one.
Speaker 2: So in Millican you can call really good roofers. I
Speaker 2: mean you can go to my referral list and call
Speaker 2: Excel Roofing. I believe they go up to Millican. Hey,
Speaker 2: Tom Yes Jr.
Speaker 3: From the road texted me hail photos from Millican.
Speaker 7: I sent them to your phone.
Speaker 2: And I think they are incredible.
Speaker 6: I know he has sent those to me earlier.
Speaker 2: I mean that one looks like a freaking baseball.
Speaker 26: Yeah, I got tenno's ball size hail or.
Speaker 2: Lemon or whatever. I mean, they're giant now is your
Speaker 2: roof your roof's I'll bet you it's damaged, isn't it.
Speaker 26: It's damaged. Yes, and some of my sighting is damaged
Speaker 26: as well. Okay, it's crazy. I had at least ten
Speaker 26: roofing companies right after the storm, same day, and I
Speaker 26: just send them away.
Speaker 9: Hey, Tom guy, I asked you a question about not
Speaker 9: signing anything. Do you does a homeowner ever have to
Speaker 9: sign a release of liability so that if something happens,
Speaker 9: so that's on the roofing company to cover.
Speaker 2: Their own injuries. They're okay, do you have to sign
Speaker 2: a release of liability for someone climbing on your roof?
Speaker 6: To look at it?
Speaker 2: No, why would you who are you releasing from liability? Doc?
Speaker 6: Who would you be?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 14: Well?
Speaker 2: What, Doc? Who would you be releasing from liability?
Speaker 9: If somebody climbs up on your roof and suffers an
Speaker 9: injury and then claims something against the homeowner?
Speaker 2: I was just asking, Okay, well, it wouldn't matter what
Speaker 2: you signed.
Speaker 6: You can't sign away someone's rights.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you don't have to sign anything, and
Speaker 2: there is nothing you can sign. I mean, what Doc
Speaker 2: is talking about is having something that says you can
Speaker 2: get on my roof. But if you get hurt, don't
Speaker 2: come after me. Well, that's going to be held up
Speaker 2: by the law anyway. I mean if you didn't do
Speaker 2: anything wrong and somebody's climbing on your roof, I mean
Speaker 2: if you had spikes on your roof and you didn't
Speaker 2: tell them about it, that might be different. I would
Speaker 2: say this, you get a reputable roof for you don't
Speaker 2: ever have.
Speaker 6: To worry about it.
Speaker 2: They have insurance if somebody gets hurt, they have workers comp.
Speaker 6: I would I would start with excel roofing.
Speaker 26: Okay, excellent. Let me give you their number one other
Speaker 26: at one other question.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Their number, by the way is three oh three
Speaker 2: seven six one sixty four hundred, seven sixty one sixty
Speaker 2: four hundred.
Speaker 6: What's your other question, sir?
Speaker 26: I'm looking for a good used car. I was thinking
Speaker 26: about a Toyota Prius A used.
Speaker 2: One bad bad idea bad bad the worst used car
Speaker 2: you can buy.
Speaker 26: Really, Okay? Do you know why up with good mileage?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 26: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Because they don't depreciate and you got you got batteries
Speaker 2: to worry about. Why would you want to buy a
Speaker 2: car that doesn't depreciate? You want a car that depreciates
Speaker 2: like crazy if you're going to buy it used. So
Speaker 2: if you're going to buy a used car, if you
Speaker 2: want to buy a used car and get the most
Speaker 2: value out of it, then buy a used for it
Speaker 2: or Chevy. If you want a new car that's not
Speaker 2: going to depreciate, then buy your Prius. All right, it's
Speaker 2: just the opposite. It's just the opposite of what you think.
Speaker 2: You don't want to buy anything that people think is
Speaker 2: a great car.
Speaker 26: Oh really?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you don't want to buy because the
Speaker 2: percent the market perception keeps the.
Speaker 6: Prices outrageously high.
Speaker 2: So if you looked at five grand or ten grand,
Speaker 2: let's say ten thousand dollars, that ten thousand dollars will
Speaker 2: buy you way, way, way more in an American car
Speaker 2: then it will in a Japanese car.
Speaker 26: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now, if it's a new car, just the opposite, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: So what else do you want to talk about? That?
Speaker 26: Was it just those two?
Speaker 2: Yeah? If you're looking for a good use card, what
Speaker 2: are you looking for? What do you want an suv?
Speaker 10: Uh? No?
Speaker 26: See, I got AA Ford F two fifty dthel and
Speaker 26: it only gets like fifteen miles per gallon unless I'm
Speaker 26: pulling my fifth wheel. But I hate driving it every
Speaker 26: weekend all over town. So I just want a good
Speaker 26: car that okay, guess, let's travel around town.
Speaker 2: Good good, yep. Then you want to buy an American.
Speaker 6: Car that depreciates like crazy.
Speaker 2: In fact, I think I have a list of cars
Speaker 2: that depreciate like crazy.
Speaker 6: I'm really serious.
Speaker 2: People say, well, wait a minute, Tom, it depreciates a lot.
Speaker 6: Yes it does, you moron.
Speaker 2: That's why you want to buy it used because it's
Speaker 2: almost like new, and they sell like crazy. So uh,
Speaker 2: good cars that depreciate a lot. Look for a VW.
Speaker 2: Look for an Odyssey Honda Odyssey Honda originally wait wait,
Speaker 2: oh no, these are the best, not the worst.
Speaker 6: Wait no, no, these are the worst.
Speaker 2: You want to you want something that depreciates a lot.
Speaker 2: Then then you want to go on and go on
Speaker 2: and Google or ask artificial intelligence for cars that depreciate
Speaker 2: a great deal, and then go and look for some
Speaker 2: of those cars, like did you know a Lincoln Navigator
Speaker 2: depreciates a lot? Some of these, you know, you'll you'll
Speaker 2: find good cars, but Ford's and Chevy's Jeff Fick camera
Speaker 2: transmission Jeff don't you agree with that. Uh, these cars
Speaker 2: that depreciate a lot doesn't mean they're bad cars.
Speaker 22: Correct, correct, But any of the cars you look at,
Speaker 22: I mean the one thing that people neglect to do,
Speaker 22: and it happens all the time, go get it checked
Speaker 22: out before you buy it.
Speaker 6: Oh that's right. God, there's so many that don't do that.
Speaker 2: But thanks for calling. Three O three seven one three
Speaker 2: talk seven one three eight two five five.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got it. You got to get rid of
Speaker 6: the car.
Speaker 2: Uh, excuse me, not get rid of it, get it
Speaker 2: checked out before getting it.
Speaker 6: All right, let's take this break. I need to take
Speaker 6: a break and we'll come right back.
Speaker 2: Hi, Tom Martino here three O three seven one three
Speaker 2: eight two five five. I was looking over the paperwork
Speaker 2: that was sent to me by that woman who said
Speaker 2: that Denver Audi said she was cheated. Nothing, not one thing.
Speaker 2: Not one thing says she was cheated. It said it
Speaker 2: was poor quality work. Nothing said she was cheated at all.
Speaker 2: What's going on in your life?
Speaker 6: Larry?
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Tom.
Speaker 32: Uh, before I have my car question, I have a
Speaker 32: real quick comment about the guy that was complaining about
Speaker 32: outrageous power bills.
Speaker 2: Yes earlier, Yes, he said. After he switched to the
Speaker 2: smart meter, his bills went from twenty something a month
Speaker 2: to four hundred.
Speaker 32: Well, he needs to get several bills from prior to
Speaker 32: the switch, and to get the bills since the change
Speaker 32: and look at the actual power consumption and the rates
Speaker 32: he was charged. Without doing that, you can't tell what
Speaker 32: the situation is.
Speaker 2: So that's that is a good point. That is a
Speaker 2: good point.
Speaker 32: Oh and XLL did my roof yesterday?
Speaker 6: Oh good, I'm glad.
Speaker 32: And you know, it's totally the second time in my
Speaker 32: life that I've ever hired somebody to do anything on
Speaker 32: my house, and I was kind of apprehensive.
Speaker 2: What were you going to do your own roof?
Speaker 32: Well, at eighty three, I think I'm beyond doing my
Speaker 32: own roof.
Speaker 6: But did you used to do your own roof?
Speaker 32: I did the roof seventeen years ago. When I added
Speaker 32: on to the.
Speaker 14: Back of the house.
Speaker 32: I did the whole thing myself.
Speaker 11: Yes.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, brother, what's going on? You're eighty three. I'm
Speaker 2: catching up to you.
Speaker 32: Right Well, you better hurry on my car. I've got
Speaker 32: a ninety nine Mercury and my air conditioner sometimes does
Speaker 32: not start up right away after I start driving. Sometimes
Speaker 32: it'll be two or three minutes. Sometimes it'll be thirty minutes.
Speaker 32: And I'm wondering if I might have a vacuum leak
Speaker 32: to control or.
Speaker 2: Man on that age. When was the last time you
Speaker 2: had that service, that ac system?
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 32: At least twelve fifteen years ago. I'm wondering if the
Speaker 32: refrigerate's low, if that would trigger you.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it could be. It could be anything.
Speaker 2: So you're saying that when you turn on your air,
Speaker 2: you don't get air immediately.
Speaker 32: Correct? Now, Sometimes when I'm just driving down the road,
Speaker 32: two or three minutes later, it'll start. Sometimes I'll be drying,
Speaker 32: driving down the road and it'll stop and it won't
Speaker 32: go back on for half an hour.
Speaker 22: Are you saying the blower motor quits running or it
Speaker 22: quits blown cold?
Speaker 32: Well, it just quits. I mean it could the blower quit.
Speaker 32: And that switch is kind of squirrely because I think
Speaker 32: it operates a vacuum circuit or something.
Speaker 2: You haven't had it, you haven't had a service in
Speaker 2: twenty years, and you're asking.
Speaker 6: Could it be low on refrigering?
Speaker 2: Absolutely positively, it could be, but it could be seals
Speaker 2: or any It could be any number of things.
Speaker 32: Well, fifteen years ago, I had a problem with the
Speaker 32: blend door, and I knew that's what it was, because
Speaker 32: some that would stick shut or open or whatever, and
Speaker 32: so I knew that's what the problem was. And so
Speaker 32: I took it in and the service the air conditioner,
Speaker 32: and I told them, well, what about that problem with
Speaker 32: the blind door, And so they said, oh, well, we're
Speaker 32: going to have to investigate that. Well, it turns out
Speaker 32: they had to almost disassemble everything in the in the
Speaker 32: dashboard to get to that, and it cost me six
Speaker 32: hundred dollars. Of course, you know, because hey, fifteen years ago,
Speaker 32: so uh I you know, with the age of the
Speaker 32: car now, I mean I grew up, I didn't have
Speaker 32: air conditioning in a vehicle tow I was forty five.
Speaker 32: So it doesn't bother me to roll down the window,
Speaker 32: all right. I just was wondering an opinion if it
Speaker 32: would be more likely the refrigerate or maybe a vacuum lea.
Speaker 22: It could be the one on the car that age.
Speaker 22: With how many miles you've got on a fifteen years
Speaker 22: since it's been touched, you're going to have any other
Speaker 22: number of things.
Speaker 2: Thing Larry Larry it's unreasonable to even think it's one
Speaker 2: or the other. It probably needs to I know you
Speaker 2: don't like spending money. I can tell by what you
Speaker 2: just said. I mean, but God, sometimes you by putting
Speaker 2: off maintenance, you just cause yourself more maintenance.
Speaker 32: Well, there's only been happening for the last two or
Speaker 32: three years, and like I say, eventually, when I'm driving
Speaker 32: that road, it'll come on and it works perfect.
Speaker 2: It works well, then, Larry, if you don't mind it,
Speaker 2: you're not going to get I'm going to tell you
Speaker 2: something right now, that problem. You're not going to get
Speaker 2: out of that problem for one thousand dollars. It's going
Speaker 2: to be one thousand dollars minimum. Wouldn't you say that,
Speaker 2: Jeff easily? What do you think seriously, with a system
Speaker 2: that old.
Speaker 32: If I just go in for a recharge of refrigerant,
Speaker 32: a thousand dollars is not reasonable?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 2: That hold on, Larry, No air conditioning shop is going
Speaker 2: to give you a recharge on a system that old
Speaker 2: without going through it.
Speaker 22: We're gonna have to troubleshoot it.
Speaker 2: Yep. Not one, not one shop.
Speaker 32: Will give you a reach and they're just looking for
Speaker 32: an excuse to charge me by hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: No, it's actually fix the problem, Larry. If you're going
Speaker 2: to have a recharge, and let's say a recharge is
Speaker 2: going to cost you four or five hundred bucks, they're
Speaker 2: not going to want to do that. It's like wasting money. Larry.
Speaker 2: You're living in the past. Brother. I can't help it.
Speaker 2: But people are actually charged for what they do, and
Speaker 2: and even to have that system recharged is going to
Speaker 2: cost you three or four hundred Did you.
Speaker 32: Know then, I've seen advertisements for recharges for one hundred
Speaker 32: and forty nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, no one is going to work on your
Speaker 2: car for one hundred and forty nine. And if they do,
Speaker 2: their steel money from you, because it's going to be useless.
Speaker 2: Why would you put what tell me this, Why would
Speaker 2: you recharge your system if you don't know it's going
Speaker 2: to hold a charge.
Speaker 6: Why would you waste money like that?
Speaker 32: But it evidently has refrigerant now, and it might be
Speaker 32: low in twenty years. It's bound to leak out maybe
Speaker 32: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Okay, Larry, you didn't call Larry, Larry, you didn't call
Speaker 2: for help. You don't want to hear the truth. You're
Speaker 2: living in the past. You know what I say, Roll
Speaker 2: your windows down. No, no, I'm done with Larry. Roll
Speaker 2: your windows down. You've been getting along fine, just roll
Speaker 2: your windows down. When it kicks in, you can roll
Speaker 2: your windows back up again. Look it, man, I don't
Speaker 2: have time to talk to somebody with a.
Speaker 6: What is it a two thousand? How old is this
Speaker 6: car right now?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 22: The nineteen ninety nine? It is a mercury.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's God love you that you want
Speaker 2: to save money, but you're really I don't have time
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 6: Okay. What you're doing is you're just you're just not realistic.
Speaker 2: Okay. And you know, I know you think everybody's out
Speaker 2: to cheat you. But that's life, bro Okay, it's just life.
Speaker 2: You have a twenty six year old car and you
Speaker 2: expect to get one hundred and forty nine dollars charge.
Speaker 6: It ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Anybody with any reputable, any ethical mechanic. Would you put
Speaker 2: a charge on that? Would you just put a charge
Speaker 2: on that, Jeff.
Speaker 6: Metal, Of course you wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Because you know it might leak right out again. Any
Speaker 2: shop is going to want to check that system out,
Speaker 2: any shop unless they're I mean I guess you'll find
Speaker 2: people to steal money from you. Yeah, give me one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty nine. I'll give you a charge. Be
Speaker 2: on your way. But he's convinced because it still has
Speaker 2: refrigerant in there, it can't have a leak. Paul, what's
Speaker 2: going on with you? Paul? Welcome, what's happening?
Speaker 26: Yeah, Hi, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 14: Tom.
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, Paul.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm looking at buying a in Denver, sort of
Speaker 18: West Wash Park and it's an old home. It's over
Speaker 18: one hundred years old, and it would be a rental property.
Speaker 18: But the strange thing that came as to me is
Speaker 18: that when you walk the property, property is great. The
Speaker 18: next door neighbors there's one of these small lives, you know,
Speaker 18: start on the front street.
Speaker 2: Is there something wrong? Is that with me, Shannon? Or
Speaker 2: is that with his phone? All right, hold on, let's
Speaker 2: come right back to him and see if we can
Speaker 2: re establish that connection. Right after this, I'm Tom Martino.
Speaker 2: Jay has a comment on Larry. Larry's the one with
Speaker 2: a twenty six year old car and didn't want to
Speaker 2: spend more than a couple hundred bucks on his AC
Speaker 2: and thanks. Everyone's out to cheat him go ahead, and Jay,
Speaker 2: what is your comment?
Speaker 16: Oh, A couple of things on that old car. That's
Speaker 16: a really really, really simple, not at all sophisticated system.
Speaker 16: It takes literally five minutes Frank good tech to tell
Speaker 16: him if it needs a charge or not.
Speaker 17: Okay, that's not.
Speaker 14: Too big a deal.
Speaker 2: But if it needs a charge, that doesn't mean if
Speaker 2: it needs a charge, that doesn't mean it's going to
Speaker 2: hold a charge.
Speaker 16: No, but if it's still working after twenty six years,
Speaker 16: that'd be one hell of a slow leak, so it
Speaker 16: might be worth it for the summer. But they could
Speaker 16: tell him in five minutes it needs to charge a
Speaker 16: lot and if it does, it does it does?
Speaker 2: Can they tell them? Can they tell him how slow
Speaker 2: the leak is?
Speaker 16: If it's been twenty six years and it's just now
Speaker 16: given him problems?
Speaker 2: I can tell you, well, how do we how do
Speaker 2: we know it was twenty six years but the problem
Speaker 2: happened all within four weeks.
Speaker 6: I mean, we don't know how slower fast that leak is.
Speaker 2: JR. You don't have enough or j I'm sorry you
Speaker 2: don't have enough information to go on.
Speaker 16: I know a lot about those cars.
Speaker 22: I do you know?
Speaker 2: Oh, you got a big deal. You got a twenty bro,
Speaker 2: you got a twenty six year old car. You don't
Speaker 2: know when it started leaking. How do you know if
Speaker 2: it's a faster slow leak.
Speaker 16: Well, actually you can easily charge it, put a die
Speaker 16: in it and see how.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what I said. Now, what do you Okay,
Speaker 2: we are in agreement. So Jay, what would that cost?
Speaker 16: I don't know what people are charging to top off
Speaker 16: a car these days. It's pretty coop.
Speaker 2: I didn't say to top it off, to put a
Speaker 2: die in and do a leak down. How much would
Speaker 2: it cost to do a leak down test on an
Speaker 2: air conditioner to determine if it can take a charge.
Speaker 16: Well, let me tell you the process and you can
Speaker 16: guess as well as I can. Okay, if it is low,
Speaker 16: you put in, you put in a guess that die
Speaker 16: in it. When it starts having a problem again, you
Speaker 16: look what your UV light to see where the leak was.
Speaker 16: You gauge about how long it took, and then you
Speaker 16: know where the leak is, so you it's sleek and
Speaker 16: move on with your life. It could be the rest
Speaker 16: of us life. You may never leave again. You know
Speaker 16: enough ever matter it might be called out in a day,
Speaker 16: but it's going to leave a trace or at leaks.
Speaker 2: And how long? How long does that take? Jay? How
Speaker 2: long does that take to test it?
Speaker 16: A matter of minute?
Speaker 2: Okay? How much if you go into today's auto shops
Speaker 2: and you do a complete leaked down test of that system,
Speaker 2: how much is it going to cost?
Speaker 16: The first thing I would personally is just top it
Speaker 16: off with a see.
Speaker 2: But Jay, you're not in business, and that Jay, you're
Speaker 2: not in business. And this is probably why, because you
Speaker 2: know every everyone says, oh, you know a few minutes here,
Speaker 2: a few minutes there. I'm asking straight up if I
Speaker 2: drove into a shop and ask them to check my
Speaker 2: system for leaks and pressure and to recharge it, what
Speaker 2: would that cost?
Speaker 16: You don't need You don't start that way. That's what
Speaker 16: I'm trying to take Tom.
Speaker 26: That's not how you started off like that?
Speaker 6: How do you start it?
Speaker 16: Thing you need to do? You start by seeing if
Speaker 16: it's even low. If it is, then you fill it
Speaker 16: up for die, then you let it go.
Speaker 2: That's or Jay, Okay, that's exactly what just said. To
Speaker 2: fill it up with die and to check it you're
Speaker 2: checking for leaks. How much does that cost? Are you
Speaker 2: telling me that shops now are doing that stuff free?
Speaker 17: I don't remember ever saying I really don't.
Speaker 16: I'm not sure why you're.
Speaker 2: Yelling at how much? Jay All, I'm asking how much
Speaker 2: will it cost? This guy thought he was going to
Speaker 2: go in for one hundred and forty dollars.
Speaker 16: Ask the mechanicals sitting there, what would they charge to
Speaker 16: put the cages?
Speaker 22: Yes, you've got you've got a minimum charge of one
Speaker 22: hundred and seventy five dollars for dieag once we start
Speaker 22: any repairs, we apply that to the repair.
Speaker 16: Okay, So one hundred.
Speaker 6: And seventy five And will that gets you the whole test?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 22: That would not include any refrigerant. If you have to
Speaker 22: first evacuate the system, see how much is in it,
Speaker 22: Then you have to ref then you can refill it,
Speaker 22: then you can ad.
Speaker 2: Okay, So how much is all that going to take?
Speaker 2: If you had to do a check like that, would
Speaker 2: you do it for less than two forty nine?
Speaker 22: But we don't actually do it with the shop up
Speaker 22: the road from us. I believe they charged it. I
Speaker 22: believe it is.
Speaker 16: But I mentioned one time on this show right here
Speaker 16: that I would think doing an air conditioning shop would
Speaker 16: be a really cool way to make a lot of money.
Speaker 2: And that I think you're right, Jay, I think you're
Speaker 2: one hundred percent right. There aren't people that specialize in
Speaker 2: it as much as we think.
Speaker 16: Could be a good business.
Speaker 2: It really would, because you could set yourself up to
Speaker 2: do these tests routinely.
Speaker 6: You could set yourself up to get all this done.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think a lot of shops and correct
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, Jeff, but a lot of shops
Speaker 2: they think air conditioning is a pain in the ass.
Speaker 22: But there's a lot of money in it though, So
Speaker 22: I mean, they do do it.
Speaker 2: But the reason there's a lot of money in it
Speaker 2: is because it's expensive. It's very so yeah, so this guy.
Speaker 2: All I was trying to get a cross to this
Speaker 2: guy is no one is going to for one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty nine dollars slap a charge on that acty.
Speaker 22: Simple fact of the matter is time is money.
Speaker 6: Okay, I got to take a break.
Speaker 2: We got more coming up. Hey, I'm Tom Martinez, your troubleshooter. Listen.
Speaker 2: You know there's a number of people telling me that
Speaker 2: I'm wrong.
Speaker 6: When it comes to air conditioning.
Speaker 2: That apparently people should be able to pull into a
Speaker 2: garage and for free get it all checked out. Now,
Speaker 2: air conditioning is some of the most expensive service you're
Speaker 2: ever going to pay for. And I have never once
Speaker 2: heard someone take a twenty year old car and simply
Speaker 2: throw a charge on the air conditioning system. Never once.
Speaker 2: They will want a pressure leak, pressure tested. Sometimes they
Speaker 2: have to evacuate the whole system.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry I missed a lot of this, but a
Speaker 8: couple of things. Just because I own shops forever, you know,
Speaker 8: we would never do anything like that for free. We
Speaker 8: would pump red dye into it, then check it a
Speaker 8: couple days later. But saying that, you realize, Tom, you
Speaker 8: can go out to Walmart and for about thirty bucks
Speaker 8: by a can of you ozone killer and put it
Speaker 8: in yourself.
Speaker 22: Okay, don't know what you're doing. You can also have
Speaker 22: that can explode in your hand and you can overfill it.
Speaker 22: You can overfill it, but if you roll on the
Speaker 22: high side of that system, it will blow that can apart.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right now, Joe, I'm not sure we can.
Speaker 2: Maybe we can get Deputy Doc working on the problem.
Speaker 2: What's going on with your landlord tenant?
Speaker 25: Are you.
Speaker 6: Oh, that's they coung up.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna take him and have Deputy Doc
Speaker 2: take care of it. But listen, here's what I'm getting at. Okay,
Speaker 2: people I don't know. I'm filled with talking to I'm
Speaker 2: filled up. I'm over talking to people who buy cars
Speaker 2: with one hundred and fifty thousand miles or two hundred
Speaker 2: thousand miles on him and are surprised when.
Speaker 6: There's a problem.
Speaker 2: I swear to God, they buy them as is with
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty, no even two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand miles, and then are pissed off when there's something
Speaker 2: wrong with them. Don't ever buy a car ever with
Speaker 2: that much mileage. I'm Tom Martino. Don't forget three oh
Speaker 2: three Martino. We'll try to help you the best we can,
Speaker 2: but you can't be stupid three O three seven one
Speaker 2: three eight.
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