1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Can God rescue people from same sex attraction? 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:05,519 Speaker 2: He can? 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 3: Does he always know? 4 00:00:08,279 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: There is a group called Changed Movement that Change Movement 5 00:00:10,759 --> 00:00:14,119 dot Com and the executive pastor there, Leon yonk joins 6 00:00:14,199 --> 00:00:17,480 us to talk just about this and thank you, of 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,559 course to God Almighty. 8 00:00:20,719 --> 00:00:25,039 Speaker 4: The Todd Herman Show is one disapproved but big pharma 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:32,439 technocrats and Tyrone safran ware from the high mountains of 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,479 Free America. Here's the Emerald City exile. 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,399 Speaker 3: Todd Herman. 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made and these 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,600 are the times to which God is the Saturday shall live. 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,000 And Pastor Leon Yank joins me Change Movement dot Com. 15 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:54,479 Good to have you here, Leon, thanks for coming on. 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,159 I appreciate you. 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: I thought good to be with you. 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: So I know you have a personal testimony related this, 19 00:01:00,479 --> 00:01:04,439 and let's start there because I found that personal testimonies 20 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:06,079 and what God can do in people's lives is very 21 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:07,599 compelling for others and inspiring. 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,799 Speaker 3: So just set forth talk to us. 23 00:01:09,879 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah. So I grew 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,400 up in the eighties. I grew up in South Africa 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,040 on my dad was a farmer. My parents, you know, 26 00:01:22,239 --> 00:01:25,040 pretty happy childhood. You know, loved being out on the 27 00:01:25,079 --> 00:01:29,159 farm and you know, doing life without a lot of technology, 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,000 and at the you know, went to church from a 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,079 young age, which you know, going to church was kind 30 00:01:36,079 --> 00:01:37,719 of part of the culture I lived in. You know, 31 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:41,000 it was a place for connection with people on a Sunday. 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,480 You know, you're pretty rural, and you know, at the 33 00:01:45,519 --> 00:01:48,959 age of eighty years old, I got involved in sex 34 00:01:49,079 --> 00:01:52,680 play with other boys the same age as me. It 35 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:55,920 created a lot of confusion in me, a lot of shame. 36 00:01:56,719 --> 00:02:00,519 It also felt good, but I also knew it was wrong. 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:06,519 From what I've picked up from going to church. I 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,840 started living with the I kind of had this fear, 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,759 like you know, from my understanding at a young age 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,080 from going to church, like this is like the ultimately 41 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:20,240 you know this and there's like no, it's defiling. It's 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,280 worse than anything else, you know, and just like in 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,240 this constant battle and shame. And then you know, at 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,080 the age of thirteen, I went to boarding school, which 45 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,439 is quite common because of this stance. You know, you 46 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,520 can't drive every day. And that's when I the first 47 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,800 time I started feeling suicidal. And the priest, you know, 48 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,520 I was like thirteen years old. I was sitting on 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,919 my bed with the spills and got in the wind 50 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,479 in my life. Without even knowing it at the time. 51 00:02:49,719 --> 00:02:52,080 There was a boy that was two years older than 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,120 me in school. I woke, you know, I wrote a 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,520 little note and gave it to him and gave the 54 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,120 pills to him. And he didn't make a big scene. 55 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:01,159 Now I know he was Christian, but he didn't make 56 00:03:01,159 --> 00:03:03,039 a big scene at the time. But it just started 57 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:06,879 looking out for me. And God is so good. I 58 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,400 just had coffee with this guy this January, like twenty 59 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:14,280 five years later, and we got to talk and I 60 00:03:14,319 --> 00:03:16,080 got to tell the story. Well it was just like 61 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,439 this beautiful moment, you know, and his son is now 62 00:03:18,479 --> 00:03:21,120 in the same school, and it was just this beautiful moment. 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,240 But you know, unfortunately, during my five years in boarding school, 64 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,080 you know, during school, I got I was involved in 65 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,800 sexual encounters with one other boy. You know, each time 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,120 it feels nice, but then you know, it's just this 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,879 tremendous shame and guilt. I'm just wrestling and inside all 68 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:43,960 the time, you know, and I kind of you know, 69 00:03:44,039 --> 00:03:46,280 the environment I grew up one, you know, I was 70 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:49,319 good in I wouldn't say I excelled this, but you know, 71 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,639 I liked sports. I played cricket, tennis, I played a 72 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:53,800 bit of rugby, and you know, I just, you know, 73 00:03:53,879 --> 00:03:56,199 I was just like one of the boys. Really I 74 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,759 didn't you know, I felt like I feed it in 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,800 with that. But you know, there was this thing in 76 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,680 the inside of me, you know, all of a sudden, 77 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,520 my friends are like, ah, they're starting a bit to 78 00:04:06,639 --> 00:04:08,960 date girls and talking about the girls, and I'm like, wow, 79 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,319 I'm not like feeling I feel an attraction to boys, 80 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:15,080 you know, And I'm like, oh no, this is like terrible, 81 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,480 And I'm like crying out to God, and I'm like, God, 82 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,439 if you are real, if you can change everything, you know, 83 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:27,120 take this away. And nothing happened. And you know, then 84 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:31,240 that's when I was eighteen, I moved to the UK, 85 00:04:31,639 --> 00:04:33,680 you know, which was common in those days. You know 86 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,680 a lot of people took like I was originally just 87 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,959 going to take a gap year. And you know that's 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,519 when I really, you know, I stopped going to church 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,040 because you know, growing up with my parents, I kind 90 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,439 of had to go. And then in school it was 91 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:50,480 like a Christian based school, so everything I kind of 92 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,759 did because I had to. And then you know, living 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,199 I must say during this time. So now the world 94 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,600 out there like, well you can lift this way. You know, 95 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,160 it doesn't like a big thing. But you know, you 96 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:05,680 I start to see in the news like same sex 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,439 relationships and you yet about the clubs and things. But 98 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,519 somehow in my inside, you know, even though I wasn't 99 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:15,519 walking with God, I need you know, something was just 100 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,399 I'm like, I don't want that God, you know, and 101 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,399 I would still cry add to God. 102 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: If you're a smaller, medium sized business owner, you probably 103 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,839 think you have a corporate veil because you've got an 104 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,040 LLC or a corporation, right, so you probably think you're 105 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:32,879 set up to be protected in case there's a lawsuit 106 00:05:32,879 --> 00:05:33,279 against you. 107 00:05:33,319 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: God forbid. 108 00:05:34,399 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you I've met countless people now 109 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,160 who thought they were protected. They thought their corporations were 110 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,120 actual corporate credits. They thought their LLCs had actual corporate credit. 111 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,639 They went to visible it's go visible with a z 112 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:51,199 gobisible dot com, and they found out, to their chagrin, 113 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,800 they did not have corporate credits. I've had several people 114 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,639 tell me there are tax accountants and lawyers set up 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,680 their corporations and it was still basically on their personal 116 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,759 credit so go see them. It's gobisible dot com, a 117 00:06:04,879 --> 00:06:07,519 free now obligation consultation awaits. They'll tell you if you 118 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,480 have actual corperate credit and if you don't, and I 119 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:12,120 bet you don't, they will build it for you at 120 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,800 seven easy steps. It's go bisible dot com. 121 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,759 Speaker 2: You know. Then I just, you know, I got stuck 122 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,000 in heavy drinking, pornography, masturbation. You know, I just went 123 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:27,800 down the cycle of trying to self self number feeling 124 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,439 I was feeling. And you know, on the outside you 125 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,360 would have said, oh, it's the life of the party, 126 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,360 but on the inside, I was slowly dying. It really 127 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:39,720 felt like I was living a double life in some ways. 128 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,680 So I'm working for this company and one of my colleagues, 129 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:46,879 bless Hers, she went through this a really difficult time. 130 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,560 She started going to churchs and then she invited me 131 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,399 to Jerts. I think this is eight and nine, you know, 132 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,600 and that was my reintroduction to church. And I walked 133 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:00,639 in the church the first time, I thought these people 134 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,120 are crazy. They clapping and they're waiting flats, but yet 135 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,959 they felt so free, and you know, that was like 136 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:12,279 my introduction back into church. So then she moved away 137 00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:16,160 and then about two years later, so this was like 138 00:07:16,439 --> 00:07:18,759 medle of students and the twelve I'm again at my 139 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:23,199 lowers low. I'm like, I just want to end my life. 140 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:26,480 I'm crying out to God. The feelings is not going away. 141 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,959 I feel hopeless and what's the point of living? And 142 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,920 I'm like, you know, somehow the only spirit whispered to me. 143 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:34,879 You know, I didn't know it was early spread at 144 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,439 that time, but go to churchs So went to chairs 145 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,199 to Sunday and God has just had all the pieces 146 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:48,079 lined up. I turned up at jets and they talked 147 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:51,839 about Alpha course that was starting the following week. And 148 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,240 you know Alpha course is it's quite big in the UK. 149 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,720 It's about exploring Christianity and you can ask any question. 150 00:07:58,959 --> 00:08:00,920 And you know, I had like in my first group 151 00:08:00,959 --> 00:08:03,639 where I had like a Muslim, I had kept you know, 152 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,319 there was all different background people and it's really about 153 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:11,000 having a discussion and asking questions. And the very first night, 154 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:14,879 the lady next to me asked the past a question 155 00:08:15,639 --> 00:08:18,160 that is really the question I wanted to ask, but 156 00:08:18,199 --> 00:08:21,480 I wasn't going to ask. And she asked how they 157 00:08:21,519 --> 00:08:25,000 would treat somebody. I can't remember exactly how she phrased it, 158 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,920 but it was along the line she had a friend 159 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,879 or family member that was in homosexual relationship struggling and 160 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,360 how they would treat this person if he comes to church, 161 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,600 And the way the pastor answered that question was with 162 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,240 such love and compassion. It just I mean, I was like, well, 163 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:46,679 I can't trust these people beautiful, so I did. Course, 164 00:08:47,399 --> 00:08:49,840 God just connect me with people. You know, every Sunday 165 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,440 I thought I would sit in the background of the 166 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:53,720 church and I'm trying. I like, I just want to 167 00:08:53,799 --> 00:08:57,559 run out after the service, and every time somebody would 168 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,799 come and speak to me, and I'm like, what is 169 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,159 the wrong with these people? Why are they so friendly? 170 00:09:02,879 --> 00:09:05,960 But every week, you know, people would just connect with me, 171 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,399 and I started, you know, finding a place and then 172 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,879 the friends who did Actually the one Sunday I'm sitting 173 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,200 in church, I'm again thinking I'm not going to come 174 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,120 back next week. You know, for me, it was scary 175 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:23,080 to go to church on my own and you walk 176 00:09:23,159 --> 00:09:25,279 in and you know, you kind of alone. Where do 177 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,320 you fit in? And I'm just I just had a sport. 178 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:31,480 I'm not going to come back Sunday and somebody come 179 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:32,919 up to me and say, hey, come and say to 180 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,799 a vice. I mean, and God is like every time 181 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,159 I'm trying to you know, God, just send somebody. And 182 00:09:40,279 --> 00:09:43,120 you know, so I joined the small group. You know, 183 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,759 I had to take a risk. You know, this was 184 00:09:44,759 --> 00:09:46,879 a risky for me to go to somebody's house. It 185 00:09:47,039 --> 00:09:50,720 was like all new, you know, and they would worship together, 186 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:53,679 they read the Bible and then have small group discussions. 187 00:09:53,759 --> 00:09:55,399 And you know, I'm just at this point, I'm like, 188 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,799 this is weird, but somehow I feel some kind of 189 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:04,159 peace when I go. Yeah, you know, and there's two guys. 190 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,120 One guy in my small group. He took my phone 191 00:10:06,159 --> 00:10:08,919 number and he said, hey, we really want to connect 192 00:10:08,919 --> 00:10:12,320 with you and read the Bible with you, and I'm 193 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,320 going to send you message. And I in my head, 194 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,440 I'm thinking, you are crazy. Why do you want to 195 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,879 read the Bible on a Wednesday? But I'm going to 196 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:19,559 go with it. 197 00:10:21,039 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: Wednesday. 198 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,279 Speaker 2: You know, isn't it like a Sunday thing? 199 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 200 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: And you know I knew from grawing. You know, my 201 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:30,480 mom would always encourage you to read your Bible. But 202 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,440 I just you know, I wasn't in that rhythm. I 203 00:10:32,519 --> 00:10:36,840 wasn't you know, you know, I'm it's like being saved together, 204 00:10:37,039 --> 00:10:40,639 saved all over and you know there's two guys. They 205 00:10:40,759 --> 00:10:43,879 we would get together and have a meal together, and 206 00:10:44,039 --> 00:10:46,039 you know, it was just this amazing time you know, 207 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:51,440 of connection. And then we read this book like Finding 208 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Your Identity in Christ. We were reading this book together 209 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,879 and we would pray for each other. And I had 210 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:04,120 two months in, but it's like Mark Rascal book who 211 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,639 do You Think You Are? And it was it just 212 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,600 folk like you know what I needed to hear in 213 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,639 that moment. God used that book so powerfully because we 214 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:16,879 would really you know, each week we do a better 215 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:19,879 homework and then we come together and discuss it. I've 216 00:11:19,879 --> 00:11:22,960 got two months in. I'm like, I need to tell 217 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,399 this guys this struggle that I've been having. But you know, 218 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,159 it's it's really really scary. Once I've said it, I'm 219 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,039 not getting be able to take it back right, And 220 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,840 you know, you're really giving somebody your most deeper secret 221 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,360 and what are they going to do with it? So 222 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:42,639 we're at the house and I already decided in my 223 00:11:42,759 --> 00:11:45,559 mind they probably going to reject me, like I'm going 224 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,720 to walk out of you in shame, and this is 225 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,600 going to be really painful, and I say to them, 226 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,480 bear with me. I'm like sweating. I'm sitting on the 227 00:11:53,519 --> 00:11:56,679 couch for ten minutes and finally I'm getting the words 228 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,320 out here. At this point, I'm thirty thirty one years old, 229 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,840 and this is a fair time. I'm evastating this with anybody, 230 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,399 my goodness, and I cannot tell. It was like as 231 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,639 soon as I've said it, it was like there's weight 232 00:12:08,759 --> 00:12:11,679 that what was on my shoulders, it was just somebody 233 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:15,320 just lifted it off. It was like this wow feeling, 234 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,720 and you know what, they just looked at me the same. 235 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: Like, you know, wow, you have some problems. 236 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,159 Speaker 2: So yeah, you have problems too, and yeah, and they 237 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,720 just you know, they just loved me. They prayed with me. 238 00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:32,039 They like, you know, we don't really know what to do, 239 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,879 but you know, we're going to walk with you. And 240 00:12:36,039 --> 00:12:38,519 you know, that was like so so ealing, you know, 241 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,159 finding people, you know, I was I thought I was 242 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,600 going to be rejected, and you know, and just seeing 243 00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:49,759 God's love and his grace through those other people. So 244 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,120 then fast forward, you know, the next January, January twenty thirteenth. 245 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,039 So at this point, you know, I may eavy smoke 246 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,600 and I'm smoking between twenty and forty cigarettes a day, 247 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,679 and I've tried to stop smoking four or five times. 248 00:13:02,799 --> 00:13:08,600 It's really difficult, right, And January twenty thirteen, these guys 249 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:11,159 pray for me and like that. You know, I've an 250 00:13:11,159 --> 00:13:14,879 add a criving sentence, and I think that's the first 251 00:13:14,919 --> 00:13:18,200 time I saw the power of God in my own life. 252 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,960 I'm like, I know how difficult that was. I couldn't 253 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,559 do that. And the fact that that just went like that, 254 00:13:23,639 --> 00:13:27,840 I'm like, Wow, this God, I'm learning getting to know you. 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I started on the welcome team, 285 00:14:53,679 --> 00:14:56,039 in the coffee team, and you know wherever I could save, 286 00:14:56,399 --> 00:14:58,639 you know, eventually did some ketch work because it was 287 00:14:58,919 --> 00:15:00,919 fun for me to let get to learn the Bible 288 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,960 English is my second language, you know, so to get 289 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,919 to learn the Bible with the kids in kids work 290 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:10,519 was just a lot of fun. And you know then God, 291 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,879 you know, I was like, you know, I had a 292 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,200 lot of friends, but I didn't have a lot of 293 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,039 friends that really know me, you know, my deepest and 294 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:22,320 this was like a whole new level for me. You know, God, 295 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,279 you know, brought these brothers alongside me. You know, I 296 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,679 had four or five other men. You know, I had 297 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,120 like all kinds, you know, I had like brothers, and 298 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:32,000 then I had like mums and dads. You know, it 299 00:15:32,039 --> 00:15:35,879 was at families and these you know, my friendships through 300 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,399 these men. You know, they didn't have the same struggle 301 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,360 I did. They had other struggles. But that was so 302 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,240 so ealling for me. You know, those guys came alongside 303 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:46,440 me and said to me, we love you. You know 304 00:15:46,559 --> 00:15:48,879 the first few times I couldn't even say that back. 305 00:15:49,039 --> 00:15:51,000 You know, I just didn't grow up like that, you know. 306 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:53,399 Or they would give me a uk and I would 307 00:15:53,399 --> 00:15:56,000 be like so tense. Yes, I was so used to 308 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,879 unhelphy touch like this, you know, but God used that, 309 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,840 you know, uses people to love me and yes, to 310 00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:06,440 bring you know, to bring eating in my life. And 311 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:09,559 then I got baptized, and I mean, I forgot, now 312 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,240 how many people wrote me the verse two Currenthians five seventeen. Therefore, 313 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,120 if anyone is in Christ, then you know your new 314 00:16:17,159 --> 00:16:19,600 creation is that all this gone, the newest come. And 315 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:22,919 I was like wow, you know, just you know, I 316 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:26,279 couldn't grasp the verse in that moment. But you know, 317 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:29,039 later on I realized, like, wow, I'm really a new creation. 318 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,840 You know, my identity is in Christ. I was my 319 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,039 greative identity. Wasn't this for a long time. Now it's 320 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,879 like a whole new person. And you know, then it came. 321 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,360 I went through a journey, you know, four or five years, 322 00:16:42,559 --> 00:16:46,600 still struggling with pornography and masturbation, and you know, and 323 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:50,840 then God, you know, God was so gracious. He didn't say, oh, 324 00:16:51,679 --> 00:16:53,039 you're going to be you know, we're going to do 325 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,759 all this now. It was a time, you know, it 326 00:16:55,799 --> 00:16:58,240 was it took time. Okay, now we're going to work 327 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,200 on this. Now we're going to work on this. And 328 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,480 then eventually, you know, I'm like, I open up to 329 00:17:03,559 --> 00:17:05,400 the guys, you know, and at that time, I think 330 00:17:05,559 --> 00:17:08,440 four of my friends, guy friends came alongside me and 331 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,480 we created like this WhatsApp group and you know that 332 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,400 was my breaking out of pornography and masturbation. You know, like, 333 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:17,920 now I'm going to be accountable. You know, I'm going 334 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,079 to tell this guys when I'm struggling. And you know, 335 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,880 that was like another you know, I just wasn't used 336 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,720 to that type of especially with other guys, you know, 337 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:31,200 sharing these things. And then now fast forward from the then, 338 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,440 I kind of was in this place where I'm like, well, 339 00:17:35,559 --> 00:17:39,359 I'll just be a Christian that struggle with same sex attraction. 340 00:17:39,839 --> 00:17:45,960 This will be my thing, your cross. Yeah. I never thought, 341 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,880 but you know, in the back of my I'm kind 342 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,680 of still thinking, well, God, you know, reading God's work 343 00:17:50,759 --> 00:17:53,359 and all the medicals is doing God can actually do this, 344 00:17:53,559 --> 00:17:55,480 but maybe it's just not for me. 345 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 346 00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:02,599 Speaker 2: And hes An, I think I went to this conference 347 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,640 in Northern California just this It was like a worship 348 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,720 conference and one of my buddies is with me, and 349 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,039 the first night during worship, I felt early Spirited talking 350 00:18:16,279 --> 00:18:16,960 speaking to me. 351 00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 4: You know. 352 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 2: It's like that feeling that I know inside that God 353 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,759 is starting to work on me on the way I 354 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:26,720 see myself and my sexuality. And the second day it continued, 355 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,880 and I'm telling my buddy, like, I think God's doing something. 356 00:18:30,039 --> 00:18:33,200 God's speaking to me about this, and he knew me 357 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,119 pretty well at the time, you know, and it's like, okay, yeah, 358 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,839 just lean in and see what God does. So this 359 00:18:41,079 --> 00:18:43,559 up is going on for three days, and then the 360 00:18:43,599 --> 00:18:46,720 Tuesday morning, I'm staying at a friend's house in town 361 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:49,400 in the Bay Area. I'm sleeping out in the living 362 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,240 room and I wake up and as soon as I 363 00:18:51,279 --> 00:18:53,640 woke up, it was like I heard the voice I've 364 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,920 got in my aid, you are free. I've never had 365 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,720 it like that before. I've never did it like that since. 366 00:18:59,799 --> 00:19:02,519 But you know, it's like I know in my knowing 367 00:19:02,759 --> 00:19:04,759 that God speaking to me. And I knew what he 368 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:07,279 was speaking about, because the last three days he started 369 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:14,079 speaking to me about my sexuality, goodness, everything that feel 370 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,079 different but also the same. It's like the weird, weird dynamic, 371 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:21,160 but I knew, you know, I got so much hope 372 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,759 in that moment from God, and you know, then the 373 00:19:24,839 --> 00:19:30,640 journey started. You know. Actually, during the same time that conference, 374 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:36,319 I got four prophetic words that were so similar and. 375 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,599 Speaker 1: These are words from other people. 376 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,799 Speaker 2: Words from other people. Yeah. So you know, I'm standing 377 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:43,319 in line and this pastor from Canada gives me this 378 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,640 way and I'm like, well, yeah, whatever, I'm thinking. My 379 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,200 it's it's it's just random. But then a second time, 380 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,319 a third time, and it's from a random people that 381 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,680 I don't know, and they spoke things into my life. 382 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:55,559 Speaker 4: You know. 383 00:19:55,759 --> 00:19:58,079 Speaker 2: One of it was about where God's going to take 384 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,720 me and then I'm going to move. You know, I 385 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:02,880 just two years before started what I thought was my 386 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:06,799 job where I'm going to retire. Yeah, so you know 387 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,319 that instead, you know, and when that happened four times, 388 00:20:10,519 --> 00:20:13,000 I'm like, this is really God speaking to me. And 389 00:20:13,079 --> 00:20:15,160 you know, I went and said and prayed and I 390 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,240 felt God said I need to lean into that. And 391 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,119 one of it was applying to go to ministry school, 392 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,640 you know, and then I you know, I'm like, okay, 393 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,440 I'm going to do that. So I went back applied 394 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,000 for ministry school. I'm like, God, if this is you, 395 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,640 You're good with opening doors and closing doors that's not 396 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,640 supposed to be open, but all the doors just open up. 397 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,559 I went back. I'm sitting with my boss, you know, 398 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,960 that December, and we're doing an appraisal for the following year. 399 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,880 Bear in mind, my boss is not a believer, you know, 400 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,000 at that time, and she's starting to talk about the 401 00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:52,000 next year, and I told her, hang on, I need 402 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:55,319 to tell you this. God's been speaking to me about, 403 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,119 you know, going to America and doing this. And you know, 404 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,519 even after I told her that, she was so kind. 405 00:21:02,759 --> 00:21:06,079 You know, she didn't tell aid office, which was in 406 00:21:06,079 --> 00:21:08,240 a different country at that moment. You know, I got 407 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,279 a piaterise that'd be same, but I got a Christmas 408 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,359 bonus though it was you know, God was just I 409 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,759 could see God's blazing on my life in that moment. 410 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: You and I are going to need money in retirement 411 00:21:21,599 --> 00:21:23,599 unless the Star Trek vision of the world comes true 412 00:21:23,599 --> 00:21:25,519 and there's no cash. 413 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: Or no currency at all. 414 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,759 Speaker 1: We just got the replicators that make all our homes 415 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,119 and make all our food, et cetera. Unless that happens, 416 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,880 we're going to need money to retire. So if you 417 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,799 need money, then the question is how much and how 418 00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:38,839 do you do that? 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That'sh two five to two. 446 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: And then you know, came to America, did ministry school 447 00:23:04,599 --> 00:23:07,240 and then I'm sitting in ministry school in my first 448 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,400 year and I am Ken Williams and Elizabeth Warning, who's 449 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,000 the co founders of Jamee's movement, And these guys come 450 00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:17,680 out and they speak and I'm like, oh my word, 451 00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:22,279 there's more people that's got this testimony and that's walked 452 00:23:22,279 --> 00:23:26,200 through with us. And that's where I got connected with Ken, 453 00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:29,039 and you know, then I went on this. You know, 454 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,640 I think that first two years when I was America, 455 00:23:31,839 --> 00:23:36,400 probably three years, was all about God rewiring my mind. 456 00:23:36,599 --> 00:23:39,000 You know. I keep you know Romans twelve, you know, 457 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,960 being transformed on and newing of your mind and just 458 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:46,839 reading up about the brain. And there's a doc, doctor 459 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Caroline Leave. That's there's amazing. I can't forgot the book's name, 460 00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:54,640 but there's a forty day brain detox in it. Yes, yes, 461 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,400 I mean it was just like transforming my life, you know. 462 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,960 And then I'm like I was looking at myself a 463 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,920 certain way for thirty years and believing the lies, and 464 00:24:05,559 --> 00:24:07,319 God was just starting to work with me, you know, 465 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,200 and it was it did. It was a lot of 466 00:24:09,319 --> 00:24:13,480 art work to shift my thinking the way I see 467 00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:18,000 myself loving myself and yeah, and there is this history 468 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:21,240 and yeah I am to that, you know, you know 469 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,160 I would still my journey was Okay, now now I'm changed, 470 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,000 but now I need to walk that out and you know, 471 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,480 our temptations that might come, but okay, that's not who 472 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,880 I am, you know, got and I just started this 473 00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:39,400 continuous dialogue with God, like, God, what do you say 474 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,160 about this? Is that true? No? And distinguishing the voice, 475 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,759 you know, it's just my voice, it's just the enemy. 476 00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:47,920 Is that God speaking to me? And just learning to 477 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,759 youar God's voice? And yeah, and that's I mean, I'm 478 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,960 just you know, that's where my heart really started aking. 479 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,599 For Oh well, I hate to see you know, the 480 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,880 situation I was on in feeling suicidal and hopeless and 481 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:05,640 God's stand this for me and like, oh wow, like 482 00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,759 how can I how can I be involved in help 483 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:11,079 other people? And yeah, that's where So I was meeting 484 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:15,240 with Ken and deciding where to do my internship in school, 485 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,160 and you know, we're trying to figure out whether you 486 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,000 should be with a dad or you should be with 487 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:22,119 this person. And I'm looking one day and I'm like, 488 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,440 I should be with you. You know, did my internship 489 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,880 with them, and you know, and just you know, being 490 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,680 under their leadership and you know, coming in and just 491 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:35,559 diving into you know, Leizbeth, that's incredible teaching on biblical 492 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,079 sexual sexuality, sexual ethics, and yeah, and it's just such 493 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,240 a joy to be here and now to be able 494 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,920 to disciple other men that's on this journey and to 495 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,759 give like like really these hope for this and for most, 496 00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:52,680 for most of it, it's a journey. You know, God 497 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,559 can God can do something in an instant instant, but 498 00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:57,559 you know, for most of it's it's a journey. 499 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,039 Speaker 1: Le Just praise God and so inspiring what you've heard, 500 00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:04,640 what I've heard from you, And I think the Church 501 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,400 has made this tremendous mistake of and you talked about 502 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,839 this making same sex activity or attraction the special sin, 503 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:16,039 this abomination among all abominations, and yeah, the Old Testament 504 00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:17,680 says that, and guess what it says A lot of 505 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,240 things are abominations, a whole number of things. This encourage 506 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:24,039 me and says listening to you, though. I interviewed a 507 00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:27,240 woman who for about four years had lost her kids 508 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:31,680 because she became dreadfully addicted to heroin. And she went 509 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,200 through treatment programs in Seattle, and true story, she'd walk 510 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,240 out of a month long treatment program, they would open 511 00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:41,240 the doors, you know, give her a stuff back, open 512 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,920 the doors, goodbye, good luck, and within five feet someone 513 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,119 would offer her free heroin. 514 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 515 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: And they just prayed on people coming out of those places. 516 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:56,160 And everybody knew this. So when she eventually realized that 517 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,200 she can't get well in Seattle, that she needs to 518 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,359 go to a different place, and she had a court 519 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,079 ordered thing, as she begged the judge, please not Seattle, 520 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:06,920 Please let me go to someplace where this doesn't happen. 521 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,480 And the judge didn't know what happened, he said, everybody 522 00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:12,559 else knew. So she went to a rural area, she 523 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,880 got treatment, and she stayed there leon there was no 524 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,440 one out there offering her heroine. She got a job. 525 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,039 Praise God, she went back to church, got intervened in 526 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:24,640 her life, she got her kids back, but she swears 527 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,839 had she not gotten to that real place, she never 528 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,519 would have gotten off. My question for you is you 529 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,519 confessed to godly men. Yeah, you confess to your same 530 00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:35,880 sex attraction, your struggles with that. I assume the activity 531 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,119 undertaken and they accepted you, and they had that response 532 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,759 a lot of us. I was like, wow, you sinned too, 533 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,559 look at that. Yeah. Have you ever thought about what 534 00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:48,960 would have happened if the enemy or you'd allowed yourself 535 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,279 to have the enemy take you into a different place 536 00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:53,759 where you confessed and men said, oh, there's nothing wrong 537 00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:58,160 with that, No, we do that too. That Have you 538 00:27:58,519 --> 00:27:59,519 cycled on that mentally? 539 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, I've thought about that. You know, you get 540 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,839 the gay filming church now, you know. And I'm like, 541 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:07,279 if I look back when I was very you know, 542 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:10,839 it will be really confusing. Yep, you know, And I 543 00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,119 could have gone a different way. But you know, I 544 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,680 mentioned this, like even before I was walking with God 545 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,920 and the world was screaming out there already you can come. 546 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,680 That's why you can be that way. This is who 547 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,680 you are. Something inside of me internally, whether that was God, 548 00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:28,279 you know, something didn't set right in me or with 549 00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:31,519 me all along. I never I never pursued like the 550 00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:34,880 lifestyle or going into a cup cult or like I'm like, 551 00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:39,119 something just blocked me from that. Yeah, but yeah, I 552 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,759 can see you know that's that can be extremely confusing. 553 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 554 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it is also very confusing for 555 00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:49,759 people to accept gay as an identity. 556 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: Yep. 557 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,759 Speaker 1: Right, And I try to use the phrase same sex 558 00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:55,599 attractor because it conveys a feeling. 559 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, So. 560 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: Is that do you. 561 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: Find it's more difficult for people who have begun to 562 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,160 pronounce themselves as gay versus people who feel same sex 563 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,880 attracted to pronounce that? Is it harder for people who've 564 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,160 arrived at calling themselves gay? 565 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: I'm in it, I am, yes and no. For some 566 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,799 it might be it because people are so making the 567 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,519 identity in something. You know, for me, my identity is 568 00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:24,119 in Christ. You know. One of the guys that came 569 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,759 alongside me was like, well, I really struggle. I get 570 00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:30,240 angry really quickly, But my identity is not anger. You know, 571 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,839 my identity is star in Christ. But I think once 572 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,079 you put you out that's who I am, you know, 573 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,440 it becomes harder you know, it's like I am this. Well, actually, 574 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,359 I'm just a son of God, you know. And I 575 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,000 might have struggled with this or struggled with this, and 576 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:50,279 there's still some things I struggle with, but I'm still 577 00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:54,960 a son of God. My identity identity is huge, you know. 578 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,160 It's probably one of the best, Like what you put 579 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,039 your identity in. 580 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,599 Speaker 3: Right, right, I couldn't agree more. 581 00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:04,519 Speaker 1: If you are a buyer of soap, and who isn't, 582 00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:06,720 because we all wash our bodies, every single one of us, 583 00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:09,759 You're probably putting chemicals in your body. You're probably using 584 00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:13,200 a product that came from perhaps slave labor in China, 585 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,279 and it has been tested on animals. Maybe that doesn't 586 00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:20,200 bother you. Alan Soaps is never tested on animals. It 587 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,079 is one hundred percent natural. There are no chemicals in it. 588 00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:25,799 It is as easy on the skin as can possibly 589 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:29,759 be because Alan's skin can't stand anything harsh. He is 590 00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:32,400 the chief soap officer there. He is fourteen. He's been 591 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,400 through about eighteen operations and Alan learned something last week. 592 00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:40,920 His dad, John, who runs the company for Alan and Ian, 593 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,000 also impacted by autism. For Amy, who got autism late 594 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:47,160 in life. John is the guy who runs the company 595 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,920 for them. They do the work. Alan vins the soaps. 596 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,519 John had to tell his two boys and probably Amy 597 00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:57,119 as well, that he's been diagnosed with what amounts to 598 00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:02,720 right now stage four Steve cancer, that he doesn't expect 599 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:04,000 to live more than a couple of years. 600 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:06,759 Speaker 3: Now. I want to be very very careful on this. 601 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: I am actually, legitimately, for real, asking you to buy 602 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,440 the soap because John is dying. If you do not 603 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,640 like the soap, I demand please respectfully, that you never 604 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,240 buy it again. Alan's is not a charity, It is 605 00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:26,480 a company. If you love the soap or it's equal 606 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,039 to what you're buying now, know that it is far 607 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,799 superior morally. All lives matter to Alan Alan's. Our job, 608 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:36,519 our mission is to hire people like Alan and Ian 609 00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,359 and Amy. That is the mission. If the soap is 610 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,400 equal to or better than what you buy, now, I 611 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,720 am asking you to subscribe because John may be going 612 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:47,880 to Jesus and his wife will take over running of 613 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,880 the company. What a blessing it would be for her 614 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:54,599 to look at a renewable stream of revenue from people 615 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,400 who love the soap. Please promise me you will not 616 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,720 purchase the soap a second time. If you don't love 617 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,880 it or equal to what you have now, go to 618 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,119 aunsaps dot com slash todd. You get ten percent of 619 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,319 all their products there and you will be proving that 620 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,119 all lives matter. 621 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,319 Speaker 3: Do you just try it? Aunsoft dot com slash todd. 622 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,119 Speaker 1: And obviously, this is why I use this phrase same 623 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,839 sex attracted because I want people to not not lock 624 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:24,720 themselves into a box yep, exactly. And and and you've 625 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,880 seen other men come out of this, and you've been 626 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,319 involved in this. What are some of the common factors 627 00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:31,680 of people who succeed in allowing God to change them 628 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,039 this way? 629 00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of it is hard to work, 630 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:40,519 you know, I tell you know when I lead my 631 00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:43,880 ments Online Discipling Discapleship group, you know, I encourage the 632 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,880 guys before we do the group. It's like get plugged 633 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,519 into a local church. Get you know, get some people 634 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:53,839 that can come alongside you. Don't look for a perfect 635 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,279 church because I can tell you're going to keep looking. 636 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,240 You know, it's all humans. But you know, I have 637 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,279 a lot of grace. Get some people to come alongside you. 638 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,400 And you need to put the work in. Pornography is 639 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,200 a huge problem today. And you know, I would tell 640 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,599 the guy. You know, so many people we see struggle 641 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,759 with pornography, and I would like, you need to nip 642 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:16,759 that in the bat. You know, if it's something you 643 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:19,079 don't want to do, you need to be radical. That 644 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,119 might mean get rid of your smartphone or you know 645 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,759 what you do with your computer. You know. So I've seen, like, right, 646 00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:28,599 you know, with people that really make radical choices in 647 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,480 their life that I want to lever God, honoring life, 648 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,799 and you know, and having having community alongside them, brothers 649 00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,359 and sisters that they can share life with and be 650 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,519 vulnerable with. And you know, when stuff came up or 651 00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:45,279 I'm feeling this way or I'm tempted this way. I 652 00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:47,720 mean that for me, when I started doing that, that 653 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,200 is through it off of the battle. 654 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: That's awesome. And God is an awesome God in that way. 655 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,880 I mean, it always is an awesome guy. Yeah, how 656 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,960 do you how do you advise that the true biblically 657 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,119 strict churches of whatever, you know, evangelic, whatever, how do 658 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,039 you advise them to deal with the existence of what 659 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,480 is called gay Christianity or what I would call the 660 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,639 false churches. I mean, let's just be honest, they're teaching 661 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,840 a false doctrine because it does create confusion. I have 662 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,199 friends who have left the Catholic church and they've left 663 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,599 it behind, and now they're at same sex affirming churches, 664 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,800 and I watched them walk down this path where all 665 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,880 of a sudden, it's not just that Jesus sponsors same 666 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,400 sex attraction, it's that he never spoke about marriage, and 667 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,920 people are born in the wrong body, and it's just 668 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,800 this very predictable path. Now it's you know, I'm onto 669 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,400 this new leftist thing, et cetera, and we must teach 670 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,079 this sex ad and everybody's racist, and it's just this 671 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,280 very predictable walk. 672 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 3: So what would you advise that. 673 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,599 Speaker 1: The church proper or churches do biblically strict churches about 674 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,440 these these false doctrine churches. 675 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, a big thing of what we do is, 676 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,239 you know, that's really on our leader's heart is equipping 677 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,199 the church, you know now to be a loving place 678 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,400 for people to come in. You know, the church should 679 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,719 be a safe place for people to come. But I 680 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,119 would say something practically, you know, if you are leading 681 00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:16,280 a church, your churchs I think it's important that the 682 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,559 church speak about sex and sexuality and what is your 683 00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:24,639 stance on this, you know, have your whatever your sexuality 684 00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:26,719 statement is, have it on your website, you know, so 685 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,199 there's no confusion. This is what we believe. And then 686 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,880 when when people come, you know, and speak about this, 687 00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:37,079 you know, don't never speak about sexual sexuality or homosexuality 688 00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:39,119 in your churchs. And then you have a couple that 689 00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,719 come in and they want to go into a leadership 690 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,840 position and they're like, well, we saw you in a 691 00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:47,760 same sex relationship. You can't do that. And then like, well, 692 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,440 you've never spoken about this. So I think be loving, 693 00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:54,920 be speak love with truth, and be open and speak 694 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,079 you know. You know, I grew up in a church 695 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:01,159 where I don't think we ever spoke either anything on 696 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,800 sex or sexuality or you know, or something like that. 697 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,039 So I think if you speak the truth, you know, 698 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,880 in a loving way, you know, they it takes out 699 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,920 a lot of confusion. Yeah. And then I have some 700 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:16,639 postoral people. You know, if you have people that struggle, 701 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,559 it's like I have some people that's ready to come 702 00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:20,239 alongside them. Yeah. 703 00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I'm picturing my mind people who are 704 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,239 listening to talk about the church and the church proper. 705 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,000 And then they're saying, what about me? So there are 706 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,559 gonna be people listening to this and they have same 707 00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:37,440 sex attracted kids or grandkids or brothers and sisters, and 708 00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:39,679 they will look you in the eye and say, oh, 709 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,639 I see, So he's the he's the pray the gay 710 00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:42,119 away guy. 711 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so that's what we just. 712 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: We just pray the gay away. Ay that that uniquely 713 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,920 understates the power of God. But you didn't pray the 714 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,559 so called gay away you you went through this process. 715 00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:57,199 Speaker 3: So what would you say. 716 00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,519 Speaker 1: To people who are of that mindset that, hey, I 717 00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,239 don't believe can pray the gay way and I've seen 718 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,039 all the movies and that can't change and talk there 719 00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:03,960 these torture and. 720 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: Well ton, I can tell you this, I tried to 721 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,719 pray it away myself and it didn't work like that. Yeah, 722 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,639 you know I've said that, I you know, without anybody 723 00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:17,239 ever praying that for me, I've prayed that for myself. 724 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,239 God was far more interested in me as a person 725 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,519 and being in my heart and in my life. And 726 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,559 you know, the best way. The more I leaned into 727 00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,800 God and making you know, that's the number one relationship 728 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,239 in my life, and the more I leaned into that 729 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,239 and into the truth and wrestling with that as a 730 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,360 lot and speaking about it. You know, as that went up, 731 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,039 there's feelings I was feeling. I was like, well, that 732 00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:47,519 doesn't have such a hold on me anymore. And you know, 733 00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:49,800 it used to drive me when I would hear people 734 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,559 say that as well, well you just need to spend 735 00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:54,360 more time with God, and I was like, well, that's 736 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,800 but actually I just needed to spend more time with God. 737 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,639 And you know, and through throughout you know, ratling with 738 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,320 scriptures where you're like, well, you know, the Bible says that, 739 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,599 but I'm not feeling that, or you know, having conversations. 740 00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:12,079 You know, it's so so important having people in your 741 00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:14,199 life that you can trust and be real with and 742 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,400 speak with. But yeah, you know it, God did that 743 00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:20,440 work in me. You know, it was like, it's a 744 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,599 ten year journey that I've been on and it's still continuing. 745 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 3: Praise God. 746 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: But never ever once, you know, did somebody come up 747 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,719 to me and say, we just we just need to 748 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,880 pray for you that God take it away. And in 749 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,159 my you know, even though I prayed that before I 750 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,960 was saved and in the beginning of my walk with God, 751 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,000 nobody else came up to me and said, we just 752 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,039 need to pray that away or you have a demon. 753 00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:45,920 You know, nobody's ever told me that. And I've heard 754 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,159 of people that that's happened to, which is really sad. 755 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Changed Movements, so Change Movement dot Com and yeah, 756 00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:57,079 so talk about what the organization does and then how 757 00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:00,760 this podcast and radio show Family Men Worship how they 758 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,199 can help. 759 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. So we I mean, we have a bunch of people, 760 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,519 you know, Ken Williams and Elizabeth Wanning started it back 761 00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:14,400 in twenty eighteen, I think. And it's just people from 762 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,679 all different backgrounds. You know. We're based in northern California 763 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,840 and we've got a team of maybe sixteen, you know, 764 00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:25,280 including some volunteers up here. But then we've got people 765 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,800 that from all over the world really that's reached out 766 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,800 to us, you know with their testimonies where I've got 767 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,800 a similar testimony and or you know, God's stand this 768 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,440 in my life. We have people that's transitioned and the transitioned. No, 769 00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:41,239 it's like a whole variety of people, you know, and 770 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,679 it's just we just you know, part of it is 771 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,639 sharing the message that I actually God can do this 772 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,239 you know, we serve a powerful God, and not one 773 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,840 of the stories is the same. It's all different, yes, exactly. 774 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,159 So you know, we just basically collected testimonies, you know, 775 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,159 and we've got it our website and we've got a 776 00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:04,039 printed book. And then a big thing what we do 777 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,719 is equipping churches. You know, We've got some people on 778 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,960 our team that would go out to different churches and 779 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,719 we might do like a Saturday workshop, you know, and Jesson, 780 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,639 how you navigate this, how you walk with somebody? You know, 781 00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:22,039 what does the Bible say. We've got an online series 782 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:25,519 on our website called and Navigating LGBT where there's like 783 00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:29,760 a bunch of teachings and testimonies in So it's how 784 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,039 our art is really is, like how can we equip 785 00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:37,639 the church to respond to this issue in a trueful 786 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,679 loving way and be equipped? You know, we go to 787 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,679 some churches and it's like, oh, we've got somebody that 788 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,159 came to a church. We don't know what to do 789 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,199 with this struggle. But yeah, I mean just just having 790 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,960 churches being equipped like actually, we we can respond to this, 791 00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:54,599 we can love the people, we can walk with them. 792 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,480 That's a big thing of what we do. 793 00:40:57,159 --> 00:40:59,679 Speaker 1: Praise God and how can people help how can they 794 00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:00,719 help you Movement dot Com? 795 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,639 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I. 796 00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 5: Mean we we we I'll find you know, we reliant 797 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,599 on donut you know, all out everything we do is 798 00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:12,079 you know, so if people want to help, you know, 799 00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:15,039 they can go on line, they can donate on our 800 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:18,159 website and we've yeah, we've got a whole bunch of 801 00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:18,960 resources on there. 802 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,519 Speaker 2: But yeah, we you know, if people or you know, 803 00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:24,320 if people think they have a need for somebody like 804 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,480 Change Movement to come and whip the church, you know, 805 00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:29,280 they get each out to us on our website and 806 00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:31,920 praise God. Well I'm jumping up. 807 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm asking people to give money. So I think the 808 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,280 average donation these days to nonprofits in America runs around 809 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,039 eighty five or ninety bucks. If you can afford that. 810 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,079 I have no relationship with these guys. We just did 811 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:45,280 this first interview. Give eighty nine or you know, ninety bucks, 812 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,480 it's average. If you've been uniquely blessed and this resonates 813 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,400 with you, if you've been rescued from same sex X 814 00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:54,280 attraction or activity, you've been rescued from, you know, from pornography, 815 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,920 you've been rescued from any of this. You know people 816 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,440 who have help this organization with whatever you can afford. 817 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,239 And it's Changemovement dot com don't need any code word. 818 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,159 I have no relationship with these guys, no financial relationship whatsoever. 819 00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:11,039 But I'm calling on people to support this ministry and Leanne. 820 00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:12,440 I would love to have you back, I'd love to 821 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,320 talk to other people who. 822 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 2: Been this way. 823 00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:16,519 Speaker 1: I'd love to have you comment on policy, et cetera. 824 00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:19,920 And I just want to say I am absolutely uniquely 825 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,440 blessed to have heard this from you, and I thank 826 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,679 you very very much, my friend. 827 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,159 Speaker 2: You very welcome. 828 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,679 Speaker 3: All right, God bless you. This is the Todd Hermit Show. 829 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,559 Speaker 1: Please go be well, be strong, be kind, Please make 830 00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:32,280 every effort to walk in the light of Christ and 831 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,880 celebrate for me as I get to go home and 832 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,920 see my beloved wife.