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Speaker 1: Arrow dot net is more than just a podcast. It

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is a podcast network. So far, it's twenty different podcasts,

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one of them being vocal dfrag. Come on, you do

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it every day. You're always asking other people, what do

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you think? How do you think I should do this?

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What color goes best with this color?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to stand on your own two feet

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and ask your own questions then question the answers. It's

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called vocal dfragging. It will change your life. It's on

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ero dot net, Rrie dot net. Enjoy the exploration. Hello

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and good morning, Good afternoon. How's everybody doing?

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Speaker 3: How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Ask me? Wow, you do realize this is a blessing

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that I've got you both. It really truly is a blessing.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're so kind. Well, we're grateful to be here

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and shot with you today.

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Speaker 1: Well, the collaboration that you guys have generated, I mean

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to read that you came from two different worlds, but

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yet when I experience your music, it's like, no, You're

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putting me in one world and I'm loving it.

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Speaker 3: That's great, great to hear. Thank you so much, Eryl.

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Speaker 1: How did it all come into being? Especially when it

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comes to the name, because I want listeners when when

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they go to Spotify or they go to iHeartRadio, I

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don't want them to have their own interpretation of what's

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going on here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So we are the FAW and FAW stands for

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our last names, Faith and Ariza.

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Speaker 3: Pretty simple but mysterious. At the same time, it.

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Speaker 1: Does create a little bit of mystique because I mean

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you could sit there and ask Alexa, you know, is

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this a good name? And she would She would sit

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there and say, it sounds very modern. It's very much

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up to date. It is in touch with where people

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are because I mean, if you look at what people

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are doing with the younger generations, they're using things such

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as FAW as part of their language, and the rest

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of us are going to explain.

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Speaker 4: Please, I know it's got a little question mark above it,

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but appreciate that we kind of as we were coming

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together with all of this, we considered a variety different

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things and we're grateful it all worked out.

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Speaker 1: To remain so true, especially with you, Mike on that guitar.

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Is it one of those moments where you walk through

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the guitar center and said, oh my god, people are

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jamming on these guitars, Like I grew up with. They've

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we've got to give them something with devour and everything

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else that's involved in this totally.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's all about the riff and the excitement

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of the instrument, the guitar, you know, riff riff.

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Speaker 1: Well, Amy, how are you able to blend so perfectly

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in with that guitar, because I mean, you guys don't

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mind sharing the stages with everything that you're bringing from

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both sides of your fans.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, you know, to be honest, the union between us,

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we believe was divine, you know, like most all things

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in life, and so we've definitely give credit to that

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us coming together at the time that we did, us

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coming from vastly different backgrounds to the point where you'd

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sometimes you know, creak your neck and say, how did

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that even occur? We ask ourselves that often, and so

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we really do thank the universe for bringing us together.

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And we both have had, you know, pretty wonderful careers

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up until the point that we've met, and to be

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able to come and share a single stage and be

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able to share, you know, the different gifts that we

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bring together and shine is is just a blessing.

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Speaker 3: And we don't take that for granted.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, the Dalai Lama would tell you it's

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because you've lived this life before, and it's very possible

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that Mike was on a sitar on those days.

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Speaker 4: Hey yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about devour. I mean, what I love

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about this is, first of all, you patiently wait with

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your with your vocals to bring first it's Mike's guitar,

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then your vocals. Is that like being a radio jock

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when we start a song. The second we hear that song,

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we add in our part and then it brings it

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right to you because I mean, it's all got to

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Speaker 5: You hit the nail right on the head totally.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good, generating that excitement, yeah, and then coming in.

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Speaker 4: Vocal to just energize the riff that's already pretty magnetic.

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Speaker 3: That that was the idea there.

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Speaker 1: So are you like me in the way that you

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and go, this is where they're going to come in.

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this is where they're going to sing along, this is

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where they're going to do this.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean, as with what we discussed earlier. There's

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there's so much channeling that occurs as an artist, whatever

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type of artist you might be, and we we received

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the gift of the riff, and I end up hearing

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melodies in my head, you know that really correspond well

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with the riff, and it just it kind of rights itself.

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just to remain open and ready to receive.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, I'm glad you're using riff the way

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that it was meant to be because there for the

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longest time, because of PBS and other shows for instance,

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like what was it two thousand and one Space Mystery

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or something where everybody said, if you're gonna riff a movie,

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then you've got and I'm going riff. That's not riffing

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a movie. A riff is a guitar, the thing that

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we do on the guitar. So I'm glad that you're

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using riff as what it was really meant to be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, original riff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But is that something you stored inside your

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smartphone and then maybe a couple of years later, Mike,

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you got it back.

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Speaker 2: No, I think, if I recall correctly, I was just uh.

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just inspiration time, and you know, she was at the

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other end of the studio and came running down the hall,

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so that I love that. I was like, Okay, let's

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here it is, here's our song.

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Speaker 1: So then how do the lyrics come into play? Because

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I'm that guy that will sit there and go like, yeah,

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Ben jim Nat you you know, it's like you're not

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even saying anything, dude, Come on.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I've been a poet and writer since I can remember

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as a young girl.

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Speaker 3: So I find inspiration wherever I go, whether.

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Speaker 4: It's out running errands, in the store, sitting quietly meditating,

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and sometimes just words will pop into my head.

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Speaker 3: And truly, this.

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Speaker 4: Word devoured just popped into my head as we were

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sitting and I was listening to this riff here, and

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I was like, that is one heck of a word.

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You know, that word carries a lot of weight and

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power and could mean a variety of things, and.

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Speaker 3: So that was just obviously what the song was going

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to be about.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, because the second that I saw that

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that word was the title of your song, the first

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thing I literally said, this, Oh really Okay, let me

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go ahead and give this a shot. I mean, you

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see what we as listeners take into it. We've got

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our own interpretation or judgment before we get into the

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damn song.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 5: That's all the fun, you know.

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Speaker 2: That's what makes it fun is you know, and that

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little shiny light or whatever the title it may be,

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or that thumbnail to That's what interests me about Music's bring.

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Speaker 3: It up to the person to interpret.

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Speaker 1: So now, how many people have come forward saying yes,

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alternative music, But I I'm being the weird one here.

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I think of it as being theatrical music because of

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the lyrics, because of the drama, because of everything that's

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going on inside the instrumentation. This to me is theatrical.

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Speaker 5: That's really really cool.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's a testament to the vastly

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different backgrounds that we come from. I mean, to be honest,

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classical of course, in pop, and in rock, really a variety.

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But I think like we all can say is that

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we're so influenced by the life we've lived before this moment,

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and those things definitely come into play in our songwriting.

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Speaker 1: That is so funny you say that. And the reason

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why is because I was doing some research on people

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who live in the past and what do we do

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for the paste? I just leave it, And of course

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all the research said, no, you're not living in the past.

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it forward so that you can use it when you've

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got the tools. So I love that that you're able

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to say, look, this is what we once had. It

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can be even bigger and stronger even today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, set, well, so how do you make it so authentic?

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of vibe right now. But when you listen to this song,

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I'm going, God, dang it, I can get this. I

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totally understand what's happening here.

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Speaker 3: That's really cool, you know.

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Speaker 4: To be honest, something that's always been very important to

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us since the very beginning is being raw and authentic,

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and perfect and just obnoxiously so, you know, we want

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to leave the human element in it, even if that

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means imperfections at times. But I think that especially today,

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the world is kind of we're all not for that.

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just because we're seemingly living in a perfect driven.

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Speaker 3: World these days.

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Speaker 2: We write these songs once we get the riff. We

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actually moved to an acoustic guitar and we sit in

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one of the rooms in our studio house and we

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write it there. And so for us, that's how we

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feel when we have a song is when you can

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get the electric guitar and you get all the amps

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the death and more death and dimensions. So that's kind

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Amy and Mike

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from the FA coming up next. The name of the

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new song Devour from the FA. Let's get back with

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Amy and Mike. I want to go there now, into

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this special writing place that you speak of, because I

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have one as well. But the thing about it is,

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though there are many times I'll look at that window

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and accuse that window of lying to me, what is

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outside that window isn't really happening. What I need to

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do is focus on what is and that's in this

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moment with this instrument.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, that's how you enter that zone, right boy.

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Speaker 1: But isn't that kind of tough being a creative I mean,

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I mean, how are you able to even get the

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courage and the confidence to even step out there with

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music in this world?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's I think that's like the Catch twenty two.

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Speaker 4: It's like, you can't not do it because that's how

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we remain living beings and we're able to navigate being

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in the world. And at the same time, yeah, there's

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a lot of inner conflict with it. So I think

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it's just you just ask yourself, well, if I don't,

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then what you know.

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Speaker 1: Been in those moments where if I don't then what

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the studio performance as well as the live stage performance.

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Do you ever stand on that stage and take chances

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up there going I'm going to see what they do

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this time, because I know the last time I thought

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it was maybe a little fumble or a mistake, Man,

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it worked. I'm going to try it here now.

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Speaker 5: Totally.

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Speaker 2: There's no there's no guardrails in the studio or in

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Speaker 5: Just fun, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and also the cool thing about live

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Speaker 4: To explore the moment a little bit more. And I

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think that people they crave that and they want that

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because it's real, you know. And that's why they pay

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their hard earned money to buy a ticket to your show,

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because they're wanting something real and in the moment and

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something that can take you somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to go home a different person. We

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want to be able to go home and have an

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experience is what we want to have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, rock and roll is our ticket to forever being

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youthful and forever being free and total like you know,

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childlike expression. You know. That's what drives me with it

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is when we get into writing mode or even just

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leisurely paying whatever it is with our instruments, It's just

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takes me back to when I was a kid just

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picking up the first time. I'm still learning, we're still learning,

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still excited about it.

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Speaker 5: What kind of new sound can I get out of it?

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You know that will never go away? Thankfully?

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when you would go to an authentic record store and

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you'd be the kid back there in the back, you know, saying, hey,

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did you hear this one? What is this one? Live

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from Buddhakon? Who the hell is cheap trick? What are

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you talking about?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: And because I mean to me, that's what I love

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about music is that it is the art and you

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say it clearly, it is the art of intentional listening.

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You go in to find music, you find it because

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that was your intention for the moment.

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Speaker 5: Totally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, is that vehicle?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's chance taking in a Spotify world? So I mean,

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is that someplace you like to play on those different

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platforms or how do we guide people to where exactly

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you are? Because this is an age where there's just

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so much going on.

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Speaker 4: You're exactly right, you know, YouTube for us is the

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best vehicle to stay connected, to be the first to

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hear our latest releases of course music videos, and our

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handle for that is the fa underscore music.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of YouTube and your social media connection, where you

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getting all those sunset sunset pictures at? I mean, come

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on now, I mean that's you're happy. I sat there,

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I said, are they really taking these shots? Are they

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playing around with them? What's going on with these sunset shots?

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Speaker 3: That's the real deal.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're actually in the Southwest in New Mexico actually,

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you know, known for for the sunsets and the mountains

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and the true beauty of what the Southwest is.

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Speaker 3: So we're grateful.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It really captured the theme of the song.

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Speaker 4: This one just it landed right right where we wanted

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it to as far as location goes.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it's we got it was. The day

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was just perfect. It was a perfect temperature for what

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we were wearing. It wasn't too hot, the sun and

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everything was perfect.

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Speaker 5: It was it was meant to be. We're grateful for that.

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Speaker 1: So when you're doing a video or anything like that,

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is it like being a radio jockey. You've got to

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step into that character?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there were Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the average person, I don't think really thinks

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about that. Because my my favorite place to be is

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right over there on the stage where I'm sitting there

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looking at you guys, going, oh, they're doing the transition

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right now. They're going into that mode once they're introduced.

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It's showtime, baby, and they're not going to remember any

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of this totally.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that escape, Yeah, you turn into your true self.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, tapping into some things parts of yourself that

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it's an honor to go there.

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Speaker 1: You know, does it take you back to a garage

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band or does it take you back to your bedroom

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or your dad and mom are telling you to turn

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that stuff down?

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Speaker 5: All of it, man, all of it.

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Speaker 2: You know that that first that first time when you

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have someone that you met in school that plays drums

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and you know you've got a little you know, inexpensive guitar,

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inexpensive amp, and you're just you know, let's see where

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this takes us. You know, we still have that mindset.

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That's that's what's great about music altogether.

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Speaker 1: Do you still have some of those lyrics though, from

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those younger years in the way that you can go

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back with your adult shoes on and go. So this

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is what I was thinking back then, because to me,

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it's it is like a window and this window is

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not gonna lie because you wrote it on a piece

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of paper, but you experienced what was going on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and of course in the in a more

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innocent manner, you know, And there's room for those thoughts

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that have expanded over time, of course.

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Speaker 3: But definitely that, like you say, that.

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Speaker 4: Window of peeking out and knowing that there's so much

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ahead and wanting to explore that. It all, it's all

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tied back to those initial moments.

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Speaker 1: You know, you do you want the metal? Do you

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want the the harder rock to be something that's not

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underground right now? Or do you want it to be

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out there like it was in the latter part of

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the eighties into the nineties.

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Speaker 5: You know, we'll take it as it comes.

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Speaker 2: You know, things cycle through, energy changes, like seasons. We're

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just grateful to be part of it. We're going to

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continue to be part of it for a very long time.

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Speaker 4: You just want to write good songs, you know, songs

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that connect to people, that make them feel things and

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go from there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we got to give kudos to these club

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owners as well, the ones that you know that aren't

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They don't have the thirty five and fifty thousand seats,

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but they've got the clubs and people are coming in

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there at one two o'clock in the morning to check

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out this band they've heard a lot about. Now they

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get to experience it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's the margins are pretty thin for stuff

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like that. It's a lot of risk, you know, for

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so many reasons. So the folks, the great folks that

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own those clubs will allow musicians to go and have

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an audience and express themselves.

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Speaker 5: They also have a passion for it as well.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, Yeah, where can people go to find out what

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you're doing? Because I bet you got some merch to

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go with that name. Oh my god, you can do

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so much with that name.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Actually, that's a big one of our current goals to

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really expand our.

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Speaker 3: Merch and what we have to offer. But I think

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the best place that.

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Speaker 4: Will be to stay connected with both music and upcoming

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merch is definitely going to be YouTube. The fa underscore

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music you can join along the journey of new releases.

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Speaker 3: We've got actually a new one that we're heading into.

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Speaker 4: The studio for next week, so we'll definitely want you

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to stay soon for that one.

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Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, because there seems to be a big trend.

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I know it's down here in the South that people

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are wearing their favorite band and a lot of people

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don't know about it. And the thing about it is, though,

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is that to me, that's a conversation starter. So if

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I get the FAW on a T shirt, that means

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I get to go and talk for you in the

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way of saying, God, you've got to listen to that song.

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Holy crap, it's on YouTube. This is a.

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Speaker 4: Experience, absolutely, yeah, And we'll get we'll get a shirt

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for you and we'll send you one.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, you know I'll wear it. I'll wear that

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damn thing out like you wouldn't believe it. Thirty years

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from now, there will be holes all the way and

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you got to get rid of it.

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Speaker 4: No, I might know, got the stories.

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Speaker 1: Any any word on you guys being on the road

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this spring or anything like that, because I know we're

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in the winter months now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're we're definitely we have the intention to make

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that happen this year. We're right now kind of in

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the planning stage of who we want to collaborate with,

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who we'd be in alignment with and a compliment to

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on the road. So it's something we're open to and

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plan on, and we'll be excited to make that announcement when.

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Speaker 3: We have it.

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Speaker 1: You just said something that really caught my attention. You

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said who we want to collaborate with? Is this a

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new age of music where it's like in the old

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days the record company said, who you're going to collaborate

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with now it's like you have the power of choice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we do. It's it's a great time.

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Speaker 2: I would I would say that right now and recently

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and in the future is really one of the best

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times to be an artist because you are it's your business.

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Speaker 5: Literally you get to Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: All within your hands and uh, from top to bottom,

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and that's a great place to be. Honestly, it's exciting.

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And you know the technology, uh, it works in your

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favor as far as you know, recording, mixing, producing, making

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all of your own content, your video, and you can

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have your sound how you want it to come out

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as and you can find people to calibrate, collaborate with

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as far as like you know, producing, uh, session musicians.

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Speaker 5: It's it's by the.

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Speaker 2: Dozens and droves and droves and droves, and it's it's

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a great time in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: So, oh my god, you that that just brought back

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memories of me. It's like when you can handpick the

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person you want to come in just a guest star.

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That is the greatest feeling in the world. It's going

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to cost you a couple of pennies, but it's still

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a great feeling that You've got the right person, the

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right place, and the right sound totally.

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Speaker 3: The agency that you get is just wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you got to come back to this show anytime

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in the future. You spoke of new music you're going

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to be working on, so we got to keep that

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word pumping out.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, we so appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: We well, we'll be back real soon.

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? Okay?

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Speaker 3: You also, what a joy and pleasure to speak with you.

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Thank you so much. Thank you