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<v Speaker 1>Hey, listen, Dear Podcast, Episode four ninety one. I'm Brandam,

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Ryan and today we're gonna jump on board the

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<v Speaker 1>hip train. Now are about for sure?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was kind of funny because you started

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<v Speaker 2>doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>I started letting the air out too soon. There are

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<v Speaker 1>no words attached to it, you see. Hey, it's a system.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a system that I have going on. Anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>is a system. Hey, Ryan, We're back for yet another

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<v Speaker 1>whirlwind adventure. How you doing good?

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<v Speaker 2>What is going down?

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<v Speaker 1>The whole bunch is going down. We jumped over our

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<v Speaker 1>pre show. We got big life updates to give, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got stories to tell people to thank. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of hype stuff we're gonna go over to get

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<v Speaker 1>everybody excited for the next couple of months of Magic

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<v Speaker 1>and CCO. Before we get to any of that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to thank our official business, Daddy's Fusion Gaming

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<v Speaker 1>very easy to remember to say five percent of all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that you want to buy to play Magic

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<v Speaker 1>or any other game, and based on the new Magic's

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming out, you're going to need it and you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, CEO Nation Holiday to save five percent gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal. I don't think it's a secret. At

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<v Speaker 2>this point in the show, we're gonna be talking a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about Final Fantasy hype Train and comparing it

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<v Speaker 2>to other universes beyond products that your good friend Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>really liked and very much hope that this will follow suit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna and we're gonna talk about why that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of makes me a little sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, well in the later on, let's not get

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<v Speaker 2>to the sad yet. We gotta think producer Gary.

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<v Speaker 1>You think producer Gary and damn Network Network Studio Automation. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>I think how it's scheduled, there would have been a

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<v Speaker 2>sidewalk Slam out already like the newest one, or it's

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<v Speaker 2>coming out shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be out by the time you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this season, or episode two should be out if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be on one, get at me Ceco Branda

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter or Commander Cookout at gmail dot com, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in the discord, get at me. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be in town, get at me. We're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be recording one and may do to some life stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Rian wants to talk about the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's some life stuff happening where we're changing our

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<v Speaker 1>schedule a little bit. That's why, Nope, you show this week,

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<v Speaker 1>so we get at me. We got more shows to do,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of mileage left to go, lots of road left

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<v Speaker 1>to run.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of mileage left to go. That sounds dirty. We

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of pipe to lay, Yeah, there's one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Of ditches to trench, Yeah, lots of air conditioning holes

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<v Speaker 2>to punch in the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that one doesn't sound as sexual, although it might

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<v Speaker 1>be the dirtiest one that we said.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you ever drilled through a wall full of

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<v Speaker 2>wet insulation?

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<v Speaker 1>I gave her the old wet insulation drill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you ever have a hose break inside your dry wall?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want that act.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't google that one.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that sounds like you're gonna have kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Although if that's your thing, I mean no. Yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>the nation you mentioned the discord.

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<v Speaker 2>Big thanks to the Patreon supporters Over at patreon dot

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<v Speaker 2>com slash CEEO Podcast. That's where we find our our

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<v Speaker 2>sidewalk slam applicants. That's where we converse and plan and

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<v Speaker 2>share updates about the CEO experience. Slamplican slamplicants. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that is what they're called.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you could become a slampion if you start off

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<v Speaker 1>as a slamplicate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, if you slamply. Yes, that works.

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<v Speaker 1>That does work. Tracks. That's that's logically consistent, is what

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<v Speaker 1>that is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yep, And okay, so here's the thing. I'm all

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<v Speaker 2>booked up for. No, I got to book my flight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh did you book your flight for that?

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<v Speaker 1>I sure did, on points on points. I didn't pay

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<v Speaker 1>any dollars. It's very exciting. Yeah, it was really cool

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<v Speaker 1>to get something that costs money and not have to

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<v Speaker 1>give anybody my money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got to bring a carry on bag because

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<v Speaker 1>apparently they charge you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, everything, it's a racket. Welcome to flying in Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrific.

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<v Speaker 2>You you earned points through shopping at Fusion Gaming Online

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com. Oh, yeah, I did, and you earned less

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<v Speaker 2>points by saving more money with CCO.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, I did, Yes, I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, We've got it on lockdown everybody, and today we

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<v Speaker 2>are we're talking Final Fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>We are. Wait one more thing before that. Yeah, Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>Brando flies in. Might not be at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>as Ryan. I've never done that before. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be in Vegas when I get there, I need

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to make sure that I'm not at the airport

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<v Speaker 1>when Ryan gets there, because I want to be not there.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be at the house or on the

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<v Speaker 1>strip or somewhere else. I don't know how to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not why you want. That's not why you want. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I said the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I don't want to be stuck at the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you want to get to the event center first,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can look for dark misprinted Griffin Canyon.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do that anyway. You always stop and mingle

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<v Speaker 1>and then I go and flee.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there's no mingling at the airport unless it's with

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen dollars beers.

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<v Speaker 1>Will we get there on Thursday? Not even open on Thursday?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so what you're saying is eighteen dollars beers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, yes, us dollars. That's like sixty seven dollars, can.

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<v Speaker 2>They Yeah, certainly it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Final Fantasy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I lost my train of thought. I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>You said we're gonna jump the pre show, but you

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<v Speaker 2>and Gary might do a pre show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, yeah, well we're just jumping it this week, but

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<v Speaker 1>we might do Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll leave it up to you. Uncle Brando's managing

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<v Speaker 2>that right now, because I'm I'm actually changing jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That sucks, guy, No, it sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's the worst. I walked into the damn studio,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I hate everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's exactly what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then I looked in the fridge and there

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<v Speaker 2>was no frickin beer. Oh yeah, only from bad to worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Only the beer that we're going to be drinking. On

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<v Speaker 1>the stream that we're gonna do in about an hour

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<v Speaker 1>from now real time. You can watch on the Duffer

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<v Speaker 1>and av Media Twitch stream. You can watch it in

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<v Speaker 1>the delay. In celebration of the Final Fantasy Magic the

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<v Speaker 1>Gathering set coming out, me and Gary are gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>Final Fantasy six on the Supernintendo Gary's first time playing it.

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<v Speaker 2>What a what a nerd?

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool. It's one of the best games of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're interested in that at all, come by

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<v Speaker 1>and check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, I got this. Who doesn't play Final Fantasy? You

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<v Speaker 2>or who play his Final Fantasy? And Gary? He doesn't?

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<v Speaker 2>He does both and neither. It's a weird spot. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a weird spot with Final Fantasy. Here's the thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it kind of feels like Doctor Who in

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of looks like and I'm gonna hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm gonna hear it. For me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hear it, well for somebody. I think it looks

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<v Speaker 2>the same. My eyeballs, my caveman brain is like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. This just looks the same as all the

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Layer anime weeb stuff that we got. It looks

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<v Speaker 2>the same as the backgrounds of the characters, like behind

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<v Speaker 2>the characters in the art for Final Fantasy that we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen so far. Looks the same as the background in

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Who. Uh. I don't want to rain on anybody's parade,

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<v Speaker 2>but thus far, I don't feel like this is very

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<v Speaker 2>special and I need you. I need you to convince

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<v Speaker 2>me otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look how much money it costs, Ryan. Oh, it

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<v Speaker 1>must be especially special for that kind of dollars, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to just I had to just dig that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and man, start at the bottom of the hill.

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<v Speaker 1>I am dig.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so happy that Lord of the Rings came

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<v Speaker 2>out when it did, because can you imagine what the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord of the Rings set would have cost for your

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<v Speaker 2>good friend Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, if it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was swapped like like spit swapped with Frick and Final Fantasy,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to think of that. No, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as of this recording, there isn't like a

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<v Speaker 1>one of one millions of dollars card that you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Open in Final Fantas.

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<v Speaker 1>And there might be I could see there being one,

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<v Speaker 1>I really could.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, there is one.

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<v Speaker 1>The perfect one, of course, would be the the Crystals

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<v Speaker 1>as a in universe version of Jeweled Lotus. But we

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<v Speaker 1>all know that that's not gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that would be so awesome. I thought you were

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<v Speaker 2>going to say something about a butt plug. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I will take crystals though and still put them.

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<v Speaker 1>In butts, yes, but we don't know if that's a

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<v Speaker 1>thing yet. But I mean I don't even think you can. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the the one of one card like the

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<v Speaker 1>Chase stuff hasn't really been put out there yet as

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<v Speaker 1>of this recording. We're just talking about kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>hype surrounding it, cause it's like the second time we've

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<v Speaker 1>done a Universe is Beyond like giant set.

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<v Speaker 2>Complete set. So tell us about that. Oh you could

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<v Speaker 2>put magic cards up your butt too. I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna throw that out there. Yeah, yeah, no King

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<v Speaker 2>shame in the Nation. Okay, So this is full set,

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<v Speaker 2>full blown set. We've got full set to two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and some cards correct, three through whatever, plus alternate printings,

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<v Speaker 2>plus alternate foil versions, plus showcase plus special editions, plus thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's gonna be eight hundred cards in the set.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, like there was with the Lord of the

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<v Speaker 2>Ring set.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be a fleet of pre cons yeah, four

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<v Speaker 2>of them, four of them. Okay, we're gonna have boosties,

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<v Speaker 2>like we're gonna have whatever the what's the boosters called now, playbooter,

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<v Speaker 2>They're called play boosters.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're just boosters. At this point. There's only

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<v Speaker 1>one we're gonna have.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be boosters, there's gonna be collectis. There's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be collect these. Do we know if there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>anything else there. There's gonna be secret layers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there's gonna be secret layers that surround it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a starter deck like to.

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<v Speaker 2>Con the forties or the sixty card ones, and those

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna have probably like Lord of the Rings did,

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<v Speaker 2>unique legendary creatures specific to those sets in regular frame,

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<v Speaker 2>not extended.

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<v Speaker 1>Art, regular frame foil. I believe there's a cloud and

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<v Speaker 1>a Cepharroth. They've been spoiled already.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally know what that's.

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<v Speaker 1>So if those, if those interest you, that's where you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna find a couple of those guys. I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna sell very well, just based on the characters.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also another set another uh, Like there's like ff

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<v Speaker 1>but there's another one, Final Fantasy Beyond Time, And the

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<v Speaker 1>only place I've seen it is in the upcoming spoilers thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I read a couple of places like here's the spoilers

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what that is oh yplog boosters aftermath? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what it might be like? It might be

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<v Speaker 2>like the Lord of the Rings holiday edition that only

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<v Speaker 2>came in Collector Boosties and had the poster arts in it,

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<v Speaker 2>the serialized poster arts in it, And man, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be getting my hands on and leaving sealed because

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<v Speaker 2>you know how much those booster backs are worth lots

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<v Speaker 2>many excitement.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that this one's gonna have the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of value out of it based on it being

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<v Speaker 1>probably less game changing to use it well now a

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<v Speaker 1>new term. Yeah, and also because it's standard legal because

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<v Speaker 1>they have to print cards in it for standard Like

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<v Speaker 1>do you think we're gonna see like the huge reprint?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think we're gonna see the Orchish Bow Masters

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<v Speaker 1>of the World? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, are we gonna see the one ring ooh, the

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<v Speaker 2>sour on the Dark Lord? Those three cards would have

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<v Speaker 2>ruined standard?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, are we gonna see that in Final Fantasy? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think so far? I don't think we have the

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<v Speaker 1>Commander cards. I think, overall, by and large are very commandery.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to stretch really hard to see the flavor

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Like I had to contort myself in all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of weird shit. I like stre which you could

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<v Speaker 1>see if you're watching on YouTube, which you should be

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<v Speaker 1>to like get the themes. But I mean maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be better as I get to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know what, maybe you just don't know anything

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<v Speaker 2>about Final Fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hypothetically possible. I've never played fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe this is maybe the Watzia designers only played fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're making it up. And they're making it up

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<v Speaker 2>for one through thirteen, including ten to one, ten, two, ten, three,

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<v Speaker 2>and then fifteen through twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirteen, one, two and three.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

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<v Speaker 1>All the expansions for eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the other online one?

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<v Speaker 1>Noah, fourteen fifteen is the one in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't even he wasn't even born.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't eve born in those those games.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't even born until freaking twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>We've already seen like uncommons that people want banned because

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<v Speaker 1>they're too good. Gave me a break, right, And we've

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<v Speaker 1>already seen I don't know, we've seen one good reprint

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<v Speaker 1>come out of it. I think so far it was spoiled.

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<v Speaker 1>Just recently, we're gonna see Dark Confident come back into Standard.

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<v Speaker 2>Never heard of her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Dark Confident in Standard to be cool. I personally really

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<v Speaker 2>like Dark Confident in Commander. I think that you can

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<v Speaker 2>build around it if you care about your life total

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<v Speaker 2>going down.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I like decks that just don't give a shit. I

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<v Speaker 2>hate life card only card, No life only card.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that time we were playing over at Big Ben's place,

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<v Speaker 1>playing rev and I had a Confidant and then the

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<v Speaker 1>flying Dark Confident on and then the little offspring of

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<v Speaker 1>the Dark Confidence. Yes, and I flipped cards that were

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<v Speaker 1>like six, five, seven, and I was like fifteen life

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<v Speaker 1>because of myself.

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<v Speaker 2>You did manage to survive a turn at two? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good. And how many cards you draw that

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<v Speaker 2>turn four?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't win that game, no, I know. I drew

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<v Speaker 1>four out of my own deck and then one deck

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<v Speaker 1>out of each of my opponents. One still didn't save me.

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<v Speaker 2>One deck out of each of your opponents, yeah, on

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<v Speaker 2>deck through the whole deck. So okay, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>like Lord of the Rings. It's gonna have a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of border treatments. Is it gonna be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's an example. Okay, is it gonna be more like

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<v Speaker 2>Lord of the Rings and have cards like ORCS bowl

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<v Speaker 2>Masters and Murky b Mirkwood Bats that was gonna recommander yep,

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<v Speaker 2>and the one ring which is pretty it permutated or no,

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<v Speaker 2>it permeated like BA basically every eternal format ever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in every format unless it's a band. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, we're gonna say that and pretend we're right around

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<v Speaker 2>the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, somebody can say it We're wrong in the comments.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is Final Fantasy going to be more like Magic

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<v Speaker 2>Foundations because that's corset designed specifically for standard and a

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<v Speaker 2>great kind of ground level fucking foundation for the standard format.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they're like, this is going to stay around for

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<v Speaker 2>like three years or five years, whatever it is, let's

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<v Speaker 2>design our sets around it. Me thinks closer to foundation,

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<v Speaker 2>But then methinks, how are they going to sell.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty five dollars booster packs with.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty five dollars cards that command an eighty five dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in booster pack price tag?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And now are are cards in Lord of the ringsworth

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five dollars that aren't silver showcase foils okay, silver

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<v Speaker 2>screen foils, whatever they're called, like this, the Hildebrant ones

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<v Speaker 2>that aren't one ring and Orchestrawl Masters. Because there's eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred other cards in the set, it's just those two

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<v Speaker 2>that command like the really really big price tag. The

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<v Speaker 2>showcase scroll foils from the holiday packs. Those ones command

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<v Speaker 2>quite a price tag because those packs are so rare

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<v Speaker 2>and nobody's opening them anymore. Right, Like, I'm sure we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to land somewhere in the middle. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>because foundations and being in standard kind of keeps it

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<v Speaker 2>in check. I don't think we're going to be as

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<v Speaker 2>close to Lord of the Rings in terms of secondary

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<v Speaker 2>market price as like, it's not going to be pushing

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<v Speaker 2>up on the bottom of Lord of the Rings. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be it's gonna be up there. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be more expensive than fricking buying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be more Lord of the Rings.

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<v Speaker 2>Sealed until it's not anymore because it's a standard set,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's going to be just like, oh, these

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<v Speaker 2>are some of the best cards in standard maybe instead

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<v Speaker 2>of like oh my god, Orchestra bow Masters in one

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<v Speaker 2>Ring needs to be banned. I don't think we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either, and I'm glad for that. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wish that there would be cards like that in

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<v Speaker 1>the set, because this is the one that I want,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to have really powerful, just screwball stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that blows up the whole magic, the gathering ecosystem come

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<v Speaker 1>out of my set. Yes, like you got it. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know what that feels like, full jerk off. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I probably won't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't, but but I could you could have.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you were the type of person that

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<v Speaker 1>would feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Under stick about my butt, rub my wing were two

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<v Speaker 2>one rings real fast like this make a fire?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You could do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have at least two one rings, which is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of an oxymoron that you could punch a hole in

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<v Speaker 2>one with a drill bit and wear it like a

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<v Speaker 2>apron Ah what, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been at work all day. Ladies and gentlemen, they

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<v Speaker 1>only have one one ring like Garfield and Tended.

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<v Speaker 2>I have nine one rings like Saluron.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking isn't that the that's the humans though, it's the humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a human.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have a human ring, or you go'da be

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<v Speaker 1>a Nazgul and then you'd be worth like twenty five dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>No showcase scroll ones like sixty now, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The regular ones or like twenty five? Are they do not? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, nasgools are expensive. Are we getting cards like Nasgul?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there something like that that exists? Because they have

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<v Speaker 2>any number of cards in deck? Cards are always a

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<v Speaker 2>few bucks, right, yeah, even the common ones like Dragon's

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<v Speaker 2>approaches like a dollar or two, and the uncommon ones

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<v Speaker 2>are three or four in some cases. And Nasguls just

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<v Speaker 2>freaking skyrocket pounded the chart to dust. Yeah, they're so expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>They sure are, like oh my good lord.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have I think I have exactly nine of

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<v Speaker 2>those because they're in my collection. I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I can play Nascuul man, I need nine of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have nine of them a collection. I made

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<v Speaker 2>myself a rule that they're not coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Yeah, and I have nine of them and

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<v Speaker 1>they're in my talks real deck.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything like that in Final Fantasy that you

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<v Speaker 2>expect to see or you think that we ought to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I can think of. I can't think of

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<v Speaker 1>an enemy that like replicates itself that way. There's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be an enemy or there's some characters that do that

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Oh right, So I don't think so, I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't think there is unless something post thirteen made

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<v Speaker 1>it happen where they came up with an enemy that'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep like Flans will split and make themselves. But that

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<v Speaker 1>only happened in one game. So I feel like we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to see Flan or Flawn f l a

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<v Speaker 1>n flon Flan flings pep up to give themselves one

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<v Speaker 1>hit point and then die. Idiots.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pretend like I know what that means. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's idiots. Yeah they suck.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so stupid. So here's the thing that I the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I wanted to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hit me up, because you you came up with

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<v Speaker 2>some simple question topic such Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't say with a straight face or any legitimacy,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that the Final Fantasy property is at

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<v Speaker 1>the same level of Lord of the Rings is in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of public consciousness. No, maybe in like the magic

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<v Speaker 1>the gathering kind of community ecosystem. Yes, maybe they're close.

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<v Speaker 1>In real life they are not.

428
00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:29.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what, you're probably right, like, man,

429
00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:32.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Okay, in real life they're not.

430
00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:32.440
<v Speaker 1>No, Ya.

431
00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Final Fantasy is on a different is. It kind of

432
00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:38.400
<v Speaker 2>took itself on its own trajectory and they're not the same,

433
00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:40.920
<v Speaker 2>even though, like Lord of the Rings in Tolkien, is

434
00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:45.519
<v Speaker 2>is fantasy. It is the fantasy modern fantasy progenitor, and

435
00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:49.480
<v Speaker 2>it is the non magic people play it.

436
00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:50.839
<v Speaker 1>It is what it is.

437
00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:52.400
<v Speaker 2>It is. Yeah, what it is is its own thing,

438
00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's getting its own theme park.

439
00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:56.599
<v Speaker 1>It's so big, like it's the biggest. But in terms

440
00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:59.519
<v Speaker 1>of our little ecosystem community, do you think that Final

441
00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Fantasy is going to drum up the support and bring

442
00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in the outside people willing to come in in the

443
00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:08.000
<v Speaker 1>way that Lord of the Rings did.

444
00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm?

445
00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Because I would say that people who are fans of

446
00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Final Fantasy are going to be more apt to want

447
00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.920
<v Speaker 1>to play a game like this than your average Lord

448
00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:21.640
<v Speaker 1>of the Rings fan who might just like the fantasy

449
00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:25.119
<v Speaker 1>and the high elfness of the whole thing. Yeah, yeah,

450
00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:27.440
<v Speaker 1>it might not be prone to games.

451
00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.519
<v Speaker 2>I think this is the first thing. I think. Okay,

452
00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:32.960
<v Speaker 2>our ticker has the wrong promo code on it. I

453
00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.079
<v Speaker 2>changed it, but it didn't save frick.

454
00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Turn it off? Ah off, there we go.

455
00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:46.640
<v Speaker 2>There we go. Second thing, CEO Holiday, CCO Holiday. Use

456
00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:50.240
<v Speaker 2>it get a freaking discount because everything's expensive and life sucks?

457
00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Sure is it? Sure? Does?

458
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<v Speaker 2>Hmm? I think that? Come on, we had to dead that.

459
00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:06.400
<v Speaker 1>This is a blue ar cover. This is happy fun time, CCO, baby, continue.

460
00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:12.880
<v Speaker 2>This is happy fun time. CCO, you bitch. I think

461
00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:17.720
<v Speaker 2>that if you said to some nerd who plays Final Fantasy,

462
00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:20.960
<v Speaker 2>sure and hear me out on this. Okay, Hey, you

463
00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:26.079
<v Speaker 2>like turn based RPG with like anime characters showing boobs? Yeah,

464
00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:30.039
<v Speaker 2>come play Magic the Gathering. They have a Final Fantasy expansion.

465
00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Do we take turns? Are there girls with boobs?

466
00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I'man yes. And it's the same people who already know

467
00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Final Fantasy. It's not like, go play sports card game.

468
00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:44.799
<v Speaker 2>It's not like I'm a gamer. I'm gonna play Madden

469
00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:49.519
<v Speaker 2>and NHL two K twenty four, right, Like the people

470
00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:54.079
<v Speaker 2>who play Madden and NFL games and NHL games not

471
00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:57.440
<v Speaker 2>the same kind of gamer as people who play Final Fantasy.

472
00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:00.279
<v Speaker 2>In most cases, I'm generalizing, it's the Internet. Give me

473
00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:00.759
<v Speaker 2>a break.

474
00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. Yep.

475
00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Also, there's no such card game like that that is

476
00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:12.480
<v Speaker 2>of like worth its salt. Yes, So people who who

477
00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.759
<v Speaker 2>play Final Fantasy that want a card game that's turn

478
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:20.079
<v Speaker 2>based and fantasy based like Magic is it and final

479
00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:22.119
<v Speaker 2>based and final bahow.

480
00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means.

481
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, lose the game, lose your.

482
00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Life, I mean lose your play the game, lose your

483
00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:35.599
<v Speaker 1>life savings. I'm gonna that because yes, because I did

484
00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:38.759
<v Speaker 1>for another little update, I did source my box. So

485
00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:40.559
<v Speaker 1>if you are going to be in the house in Vegas,

486
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:43.559
<v Speaker 1>we will be opening Final Fantasy collector boosters.

487
00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:44.599
<v Speaker 2>Did you win the lottery?

488
00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I just won't be getting tattooed again for a

489
00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:49.200
<v Speaker 1>long time.

490
00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Because because you had to sell some of your skin.

491
00:23:55.759 --> 00:24:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had to which part it's hidden. I had

492
00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:01.400
<v Speaker 1>some despaired worry about it.

493
00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm not worried. That isn't the word, but disturbed curious.

494
00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Ah there, I feel like RoboCop, but robo you know

495
00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that's that. Yeah, I was gonna say cock, thank you, Gary.

496
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think it's gonna be closer to foundation. This

497
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:30.720
<v Speaker 2>is a weird episode. It's very good, freaking weird episode.

498
00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Closer to Foundations than Lord of the Rings though it

499
00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>will be like Lord of the.

500
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Rings in what do you think that? Are? We gonna

501
00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:45.160
<v Speaker 1>go to Vegas? And I realized that the release isn't

502
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:46.839
<v Speaker 1>the same like when we went to Edmonton. It was

503
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:49.160
<v Speaker 1>like release week or whatever for Lord of the Rings,

504
00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:51.440
<v Speaker 1>whereas it's gonna have been out for a couple of

505
00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>weeks and we get to Vegas.

506
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Do we have do you do you have the launch

507
00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:56.960
<v Speaker 2>date for Final Fantasy.

508
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.279
<v Speaker 1>June seven or thirteen or something.

509
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, look that up, but yeah, it's the weekend prior

510
00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:05.759
<v Speaker 2>to going because the convention starts on like the twentieth

511
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:07.759
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Yeah, so it must be the thirteenth.

512
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a week or two before we Yeah, are

513
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>we gonna roll in there and it's gonna sell out

514
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:13.519
<v Speaker 1>every vendor.

515
00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:15.079
<v Speaker 2>And what was it seven minutes?

516
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Seven or eight minutes or something, because it's would be wild.

517
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:20.119
<v Speaker 1>He's just gonna be gone, and then the guys are

518
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like showing us out of their trench coat

519
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>like guys at the house. Yeah I got one.

520
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're gonna roll up their their freaking sleeve and

521
00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have Final Fantasy packs taped to their wrist

522
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:28.359
<v Speaker 2>right in cartoons?

523
00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Is that what it's gonna be? Like somebody's gonna come

524
00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:32.039
<v Speaker 1>in pull like a condom of Collector Boosters out of

525
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the back of the toilet. Yeah, you know what I mean, like.

526
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Some guy flipping a coin with a toothpick. I got

527
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:37.519
<v Speaker 2>your final fantasy?

528
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, is that what it's gonna be?

529
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, to be fair, some some showgirls on Las Vegas

530
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Boulevard do say that I've got your final fantasy. Very specifically,

531
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:52.759
<v Speaker 2>they say that, I wonder if they're gonna have booster

532
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:53.960
<v Speaker 2>packs instead of pasties.

533
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know which one would they make more

534
00:25:58.759 --> 00:25:59.400
<v Speaker 1>money having?

535
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:02.920
<v Speaker 2>While they would make more money not having the Final

536
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Boosters as pasties because they could sell them.

537
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, then you sell them then, like you buy the

538
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:09.559
<v Speaker 1>booster pack and they take the pasty off and you

539
00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>see their boom and then they put a new one on.

540
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I suppose Jesus, why am I the marketing genius in that?

541
00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

542
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:18.720
<v Speaker 2>This is a weird episode. I'm gonna I'm gonna keep going.

543
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 1>To that it's for the people, it's for the niche. Yes,

544
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:26.880
<v Speaker 1>that's right.

545
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:30.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's gonna be sold out, I.

546
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Big prediction is it is it is? Again? Is this

547
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>because way over inflated cost or is it because you

548
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's actually gonna be as desired? No, I

549
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.400
<v Speaker 1>just thought of this just now. In the holiday version

550
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Lord of the Rings, you have the poster cards that

551
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>are with lots.

552
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Of money, Yes, the serialized.

553
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Ones in Final Fantasy. I'll bet you we're going to

554
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>have the same structure of card, but with uh the

555
00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a Mano Yoshataka artwork on it.

556
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.160
<v Speaker 2>The very is that the guy that did Liliana.

557
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.759
<v Speaker 1>That's the three thousand dollars Louiana. Yes, he did all

558
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:09.839
<v Speaker 1>the character arts. This is like he is Final Fantasy artwork.

559
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 1>With Lord of the Rings, you had like that list

560
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>of guys, right, Yeah, the Hilda Brandt brothers are the

561
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>people that they got to do magic cards.

562
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>No, sorry it wasn't. They didn't get them to do

563
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>magic cards, I know that. But they used art that

564
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>was previously Lord of the Rings art.

565
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:28.039
<v Speaker 1>And this guy he is Final Fantasy. He is the

566
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>art from the front because he is a very unique

567
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.640
<v Speaker 1>style and I could see those being pretty chase and like, yes,

568
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 1>something that would be very very collected.

569
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.400
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if this

570
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:40.279
<v Speaker 2>and and maybe people who know a little bit more

571
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:42.519
<v Speaker 2>about print runs and distribution could let us know in

572
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 2>the comments this this maybe the original print run of

573
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Collector Boosters. By the end of the weekend in Vegas

574
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 2>sells out, and I think it would work something like this. Okay,

575
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.240
<v Speaker 2>get you get to the convention. Everybody's buying it like

576
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:04.640
<v Speaker 2>crazy because it's new, because their local game store is

577
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>already sold out and out of stock on all the

578
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 2>big websites globally, and everybody's price gouging on YouTube. I

579
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>think that that's what it is. Yeah, sorry eBay and YouTube, yes,

580
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>but eBay okay, so you're probably getting price gouged on eBay.

581
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 2>You walk into Magic Con Las Vegas, what did you

582
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:28.920
<v Speaker 2>what's a box worth a collector box? Four hundred six,

583
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:37.920
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred eight okay eight? Okay, price gouge at eight okay.

584
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:39.799
<v Speaker 1>And now that might come down or go good, But.

585
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Price gouge at eight is my example. You walk into

586
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Magic Con Las Vegas and you pay eight twenty five. Sure, sure,

587
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and they're selling at eight twenty five because there's serialized

588
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:55.839
<v Speaker 2>and collectors and jerk off cards and all the stuff.

589
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay by the end of the day Friday eight fifty, Okay,

590
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:06.319
<v Speaker 2>by midday Saturday nine Well, maybe, yeah, maybe I'm not.

591
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that I want this or that it

592
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:11.559
<v Speaker 2>could happen, but this is sort of the price trend

593
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>and the kind of thing that happened with Lord of

594
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>the Rings Collectors over the course of the couple months

595
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:22.640
<v Speaker 2>that people thought that the one of one ring wasn't found, right,

596
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:24.279
<v Speaker 2>it got found in one.

597
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Day, by the way it was found on the first day.

598
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the guy just didn't know what to do, poor guy.

599
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Two million was two million US, it was two million

600
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>US Canadian it was a million whatever it was. He

601
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 1>paid it because the guy who opened it was Canadian

602
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>from Toronto, bought it from from face to face. Yeah,

603
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 1>and post Malone gave him a us D amount equivalent

604
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>to two million Canadian dollars.

605
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, man, I would have taken two million us D.

606
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>That's what I would have did too. And post Malon

607
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>would show uped my house the big check.

608
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Or a dump truck of money.

609
00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:59.559
<v Speaker 1>Did I have to like scoop it up? My neighbors

610
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:01.559
<v Speaker 1>did see, and then I'll be asking me for stuff

611
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:02.039
<v Speaker 1>and I want that.

612
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I let us know in the comments, what would you

613
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 2>rather have a discrete? Like, oh, oh, a concrete truck.

614
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:12.599
<v Speaker 2>You know how they have the shoot that the concrete

615
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>comes out of. Yeah, but money dollar dollar bills you

616
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>into your front door, into your front door, so your

617
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:19.960
<v Speaker 2>neighbors just think like you're getting your basement poored.

618
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a cement mixer, but money's being yes into your house.

619
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Or do you want a big novelty check?

620
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Both are good.

621
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I'm asking.

622
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Remember how much fun we had with Amy's Big Novelty check.

623
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Verrely, it was the most fun.

624
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>It was a big novelty check. It was also a

625
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>real check.

626
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll see the price trend on the collector boosters

627
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:43.400
<v Speaker 2>go up until they're maybe sold out or at a

628
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 2>price where vendors are happy to have them not move,

629
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:50.079
<v Speaker 2>which seems like a weird thing to say, but the

630
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>sealed price of a box can help inform what like

631
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>singles are worth right and vice versa. Like it goes

632
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:06.400
<v Speaker 2>both ways, and it's I don't think that we'll see

633
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>play boosters sell out. I don't think.

634
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we will either. I bet you collector

635
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 1>boosters are going to be nigh impossible to find, and

636
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 1>especially until they send out like they have a second

637
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.519
<v Speaker 1>wave of product, if you're gonna want to get those,

638
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I really do think of that.

639
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And well, because it's a standard set too, right,

640
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I'm not gonna call it, Oh it's

641
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 2>print on demand, like I know, because I'm an idiot

642
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>and don't know. But it's a standard set, so I

643
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 2>don't know they're not gonna sell out.

644
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's gonna be like Lord of the

645
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Rings had, like the thing where like you can only

646
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:41.599
<v Speaker 1>print like this image x times because otherwise you have

647
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:43.799
<v Speaker 1>to give us more excitements.

648
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there were so many things I learned from

649
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:53.160
<v Speaker 2>vendors and from like retailers, online retailers at various shows,

650
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and from various employees at certain companies just because we

651
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 2>talk to people that there was a lot of rules,

652
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:07.279
<v Speaker 2>like only digital art instead of like painting on canvas

653
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.240
<v Speaker 2>style art and being sold on the secondary market like

654
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>magic artists do. Yeah, only so many printings of yes,

655
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>big card or big big X big card or very

656
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.119
<v Speaker 2>strict print runs on this that or the other thing.

657
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Do you think we'll see that here? Do you think

658
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna run into like we're gonna find out that

659
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.599
<v Speaker 1>Square Square Innings had all these rules.

660
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Or square anus. Yeah, yeah, okay, maybe you.

661
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Think we're gonna bump into a bunch of that stuff

662
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:41.279
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, yeah, sorry, guys, you better have your

663
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 1>teeth is because we're not allowed to print her anymore.

664
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Skirts too short? Oh that's all right there. Oh that's

665
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>why I said that. It's on the screen in front

666
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:49.519
<v Speaker 1>of us.

667
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know, I think, and I'll do it.

668
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

669
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 2>A couple of weeks ago, you had a conspiracy theory,

670
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.400
<v Speaker 2>sure did. Now I have one, and I just made

671
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 2>it up. I just made it. I think the ultra

672
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 2>limited print run, no physical art, only digital, and things

673
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 2>like limiting the number of big cards that vendors and

674
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:22.799
<v Speaker 2>tournament organizers can print. That kind of stuff is a

675
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:28.599
<v Speaker 2>pseudo kind of negative area backhanded. There's no literature to

676
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Speaker 2>support this way of WATSI acknowledging the secondary market to

677
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:36.000
<v Speaker 2>say we're going to put all these checks in place

678
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:43.160
<v Speaker 2>so Middle Earth enterprises maintains their prestige in the fantasy

679
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>genre because they're set on the secondary market is the

680
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>most expensive one. I think Lord of the rings limited

681
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>availability is purposeful, is engineered in a way to make

682
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>it expensive so much so that it is the most

683
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:06.519
<v Speaker 2>expensive compared to any other IP that they're ever gonna do. Damn,

684
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.599
<v Speaker 2>tell me one that's more expensive. Tell me one that

685
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 2>will ever be more expensive based on what the what

686
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:17.920
<v Speaker 2>the actual IP is and also the actual engineered scarcity

687
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 2>of the product.

688
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. Yeah, it's a very good point.

689
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's some fricking tinfoil hat stuff.

690
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks like a nipple on the top of.

691
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's my favorite kind of tinfoil hat that like nipples.

692
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, And there's there's a zero percent chance

693
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:36.559
<v Speaker 1>that I think that Square would care about that.

694
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Square is the maker of.

695
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they're the company that owns the Final Fantasy license,

696
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and I.

697
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Can see them just I'm gonna pretend I knew that.

698
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>They just hold their hand out like this and as

699
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.519
<v Speaker 1>long as you're putting money in it, they'll just have

700
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 1>their hand out there. That's what that's like.

701
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's okay, that's what businesses do.

702
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm

703
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:56.079
<v Speaker 1>just saying that that would be I don't think that

704
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>they care about the prestige. They just want you to

705
00:34:58.280 --> 00:34:59.519
<v Speaker 1>give them fucking money.

706
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And here's the thing about the Tolkien estate is

707
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.000
<v Speaker 2>people are going to do that, Yeah, they and they

708
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:13.119
<v Speaker 2>care about it. Yeah, And maybe that makes them snobs.

709
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's I don't know them, I never

710
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.679
<v Speaker 1>met them, I don't know who they are, and quite frankly,

711
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't care who they are. But the fact is

712
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I could see like a Tolkien descended being, oh, yes,

713
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:28.360
<v Speaker 1>this great great grandfather's work is with so many dollars

714
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:31.199
<v Speaker 1>to these nerds, and then they cap.

715
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Well some of their juice, even if it ain't it's

716
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>some executive who they employ to do that.

717
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>And then he's slow. He's swirling the wine for the

718
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>great great grandchild, and he goes, oh, great grandfather of Tolkien,

719
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.199
<v Speaker 1>this set that the nerds like is worth so many dollars,

720
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.559
<v Speaker 1>and that makes the guy happy, Whereas the guy at

721
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>squaresoft is like some nameless AI thing like executive AI

722
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that they've to and it's just a it's just a

723
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:02.679
<v Speaker 1>robot handling asking for money, yes, because that's what they

724
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 1>care about.

725
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

726
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's not me saying that they're shitty or that

727
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>this set's gonna suck because of it. I'm just saying it.

728
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Like, listen to us being all negative about stuff. I'm actually,

729
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually the I'm excited and happy that Lord of

730
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.079
<v Speaker 2>the Rings happened, and I'm excited and happy that that

731
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.079
<v Speaker 2>people also get Final Fantasy because I know how big

732
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 2>of a of a thing that it is.

733
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a huge franchise. It changed like pop culture in

734
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways. It has lots of like the

735
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>stories and the characters and lots of the stuff are

736
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.800
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more mainstream than I think people even believe. Well, yeah,

737
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I think so.

738
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Is that one of the things you want to talk about.

739
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I believe?

740
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:40.679
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean you don't. It's hard because you have

741
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.400
<v Speaker 1>no frame of reference for them. Yeah, yeah, you know

742
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.519
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So it's tricky frick because like, you

743
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know why Final Fantasy seven had two theatrical releases,

744
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>a mobile game, five spin offs, and in a three

745
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>part remake. You don't know why that is. Quite frankly,

746
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why that is, but well I do

747
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 1>with money. But but like the impact that it had

748
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:08.599
<v Speaker 1>on the gaming landscape was huge, Like Final Fantasy seven

749
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>is one of the really really big reasons why PlayStation

750
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 1>is still winning the console wars.

751
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh shots fired. Let us know in the comments.

752
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 1>How many years ago is that? Nineteen ninety seven, that's

753
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>almost thirty years ago.

754
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna pretend I knew that.

755
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.679
<v Speaker 1>And that's the reason. It's a big reason why was

756
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 1>on the strength of this one game coming out, people

757
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:34.440
<v Speaker 1>have touted Final Fantasy six again. Then we're gonna play

758
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:36.760
<v Speaker 1>on a Twitch stream with Gary as one of the

759
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.679
<v Speaker 1>not just like a great work of fiction, not just

760
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 1>a video game. And it's been how hyped as one

761
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>of the top ten SNS games of all time and

762
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the top ten best video games of all

763
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:52.760
<v Speaker 1>time still today. Really like it's a it's a gaming

764
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>badge of honor that when you when you play these

765
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 1>games sometimes like some of the really specific ones are

766
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.639
<v Speaker 1>huge deals. It's one of my favorite games ever. I

767
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:03.079
<v Speaker 1>played through it. Like people reread Lord of the Rings,

768
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I play Final Fantasy six.

769
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Two things. If you love it so much, want.

770
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>You to marry it, I should and they'd be marry

771
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 1>and rich.

772
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'd be.

773
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Trade that.

774
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.079
<v Speaker 2>I've never reread Lord of the Rings really, Nope, olive lying,

775
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm rereading it right, now, Yeah, I know. I read

776
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>it four times last year.

777
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nerd, I remember watching one of the DVD extras.

778
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>What was it the guy that played Sorrowman or whatever says, Yeah,

779
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I reread it every year around Christmas.

780
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Lord of the Rings is a Christmas story.

781
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, fuck, you're such a nerd. Yeah, oh my god? Yeah.

782
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 2>How often? How often do you play Final Fantasy like

783
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:51.880
<v Speaker 2>any of them?

784
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm mid play through a five right now. I

785
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>was playing it this morning.

786
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Eh and and do you okay, I'm gonna pretend I

787
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 2>know this, so I'm just gonna get that out.

788
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Of the way, Okay.

789
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you play them like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

790
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Speaker 2>thirteen fourteen?

791
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh no?

792
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Or do you just play them and they're a self

793
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:15.159
<v Speaker 2>contained thing?

794
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Each one is its own little self contained world unless

795
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>it's this, like, unless they're like ten to two, well

796
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 1>thirteen two or whatever, okay, and those ones are typically crap.

797
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Is it okay? Is it? Is it a self contained

798
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 2>world though? Or is it like Doctor Who? Or is

799
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:32.760
<v Speaker 2>it one world and there's a bunch of shit going

800
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:34.719
<v Speaker 2>on like Warhammer forty k Nope?

801
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Self contained world? Each one They are in no way

802
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.119
<v Speaker 1>connected except.

803
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>For like Tifa and Cloud don't know each.

804
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Other, they do because they're they're from the same game. Goddamn,

805
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 1>they know each other because they're from the same game.

806
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I totally knew that.

807
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.119
<v Speaker 1>On the screen, we have Tifa and Celeste. They don't

808
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:49.679
<v Speaker 1>know each other.

809
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:51.519
<v Speaker 2>H yeah, they probably wouldn't like each other.

810
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:54.760
<v Speaker 1>The similarities between games are the little littlemoughles. It's like

811
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>one of them little mascot characters. Okay, a couple of

812
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 1>recurring enemies, ton berries behemoths.

813
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Have have we seen any of those recurring enemies yet?

814
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Cactar Cactar is returning is a recurring enemy, okay, Umber

815
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Jumbo Kactar. Yeah, that's that's one of them. But they're

816
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:11.679
<v Speaker 1>all their own thing. The Choco bowl, which will eventually

817
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.199
<v Speaker 1>show up the chocobo, is actually the commander set.

818
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Symbol, the chocabo. It's that dirty. I want to chokeabo.

819
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give myself a chokeable. I'm going to reach

820
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:24.559
<v Speaker 2>around and give myself a chokeable, and my wife's gonna.

821
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Be yeah, yeah, chocobos.

822
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:29.599
<v Speaker 2>I want to rusty chocabo. I want to give myself

823
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:30.679
<v Speaker 2>the chocobo.

824
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Diani everybody's getting Final Fantasy themed CEO nicknames in the house.

825
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I just decided I want to Rusty Trump Choca Bones.

826
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:44.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we've done it.

827
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 1>We've done it. So like the worlds are very loosely

828
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:48.400
<v Speaker 1>connected only through a couple of characters, and I think

829
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:52.559
<v Speaker 1>they just do that for like consistencies steak sake. Yeah,

830
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 1>but like the level of technology in the world, how

831
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the magic in the world works, where the monsters come from,

832
00:40:57.920 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>everything else is just its own.

833
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:05.280
<v Speaker 2>How do they interpret that or transpose that onto magic

834
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:09.639
<v Speaker 2>without making all of these let's call them diverse worlds

835
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>not feel like the same game, Like, how do I

836
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 2>take Final Fantasy five and Final Fantasy eight, let's say, okay,

837
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:20.360
<v Speaker 2>and not just make them the same thing. Is that

838
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.000
<v Speaker 2>going to be a criticism that we see.

839
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:23.199
<v Speaker 1>I think it is they.

840
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Use the same artists for this character and this character,

841
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and this one's from five and this one's from eight. Yeah,

842
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:29.000
<v Speaker 2>is that gonna be a thing.

843
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>We are going to see that? Because ah, the only

844
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 1>thing that one of the things about Final Fantasy that

845
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:35.639
<v Speaker 1>I think is free to admit, and everybody who plays

846
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>it will know this. The iconic vista, the iconic places

847
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:46.599
<v Speaker 1>and all of that stuff, because it's fifteen disparate worlds.

848
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Where do you really pull the lands from? You know

849
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? So like the settings are going to be.

850
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Like the Magic the Gathering Land card.

851
00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like there is no Eisngard forest, There is no

852
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:03.159
<v Speaker 1>I can't even think of a Mordor.

853
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

854
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, there's some cities. But like somebody who hasn't played six,

855
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna open vector and be like, what the hell

856
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>is vector?

857
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:11.519
<v Speaker 2>And it's gonna be a city of brass reeskin and

858
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:13.239
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, yeah, I can Yeah, they did it.

859
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be there's gonna be one command tower, and

860
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:17.199
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, yeah, they did it.

861
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be four command towers I had.

862
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh and they freaking didn't give us fourg Lord of

863
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.519
<v Speaker 2>the Rings, Hey, most expensive universe beyond of all time?

864
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:28.880
<v Speaker 2>What kind of cut rate production is that?

865
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I know? Right, Tolkien States should get on them.

866
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 2>One hundred dollars one rings. Freaking basics that look like

867
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:37.159
<v Speaker 2>maps that don't even join.

868
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Don't even go together. What a bunch of crap that is?

869
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.119
<v Speaker 1>That was the biggest miss of all time. Yeah, I

870
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 1>think that that is gonna be like a big thing

871
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>in Final Fantasy, though, and the characters in a lot

872
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>of cases are so like refined and defined. I think

873
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see a lot of criticism coming out about

874
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:56.280
<v Speaker 1>them because all that's not what that character. Oh man,

875
00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna We're not gonna have that conversation because I'm

876
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be that guy. I'm gonna be happy that

877
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>characters that are some of my favorite things in the

878
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>whole world are on magic cards. I'm gonna be really

879
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>excited about that.

880
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:11.920
<v Speaker 2>We're not gonna be those guys, because even though I

881
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.039
<v Speaker 2>totally knew everything about all the characters that were totally

882
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 2>coming out, I'm choosing to not be that guy, just

883
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 2>like Brando see perfect.

884
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.800
<v Speaker 1>See we got ourselves a good system going on here. Also,

885
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:23.199
<v Speaker 1>I was right, rememberhen I told you there was gonna

886
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>be a trained Suplex card. There is a card called

887
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Suplex and it is Saban from six preparing to supplex

888
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>a train. And I knew it was gonna happen. I

889
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.280
<v Speaker 1>saw it. I saw it on one of those shall

890
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>we not talk about them sites where people leak them.

891
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't looking at Final Fantasy.

892
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, don't talk about that. You're gonna ruin somebody's day.

893
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:49.159
<v Speaker 2>But that is the thing going to make it so

894
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 2>we don't get preview cards anymore.

895
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I probably would have given U some shitty.

896
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:10.239
<v Speaker 2>No, we never gotten shitty cards. This is a weird episode, but.

897
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.760
<v Speaker 1>The point we were talking lots of nonsense and talking

898
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 1>lots of shit. But I think that the set's gonna

899
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>be really, really cool and I'm really looking forward to

900
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 1>it the one Again. The only criticism that I have

901
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.519
<v Speaker 1>and concern that I have for the Magic ecosystem is

902
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:26.400
<v Speaker 1>this set so far, as of right now today is

903
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>so goddamned expensive and just like you said, it's going

904
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:34.679
<v Speaker 1>to sell out almost.

905
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Everywhere, at least at some capacity. This is gonna happen

906
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:40.079
<v Speaker 2>to a non zero number of times.

907
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna walk into a store and I have this, No,

908
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 1>it's all sold out.

909
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and could we get more? Maybe could you go

910
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 2>to a different vendor at Magic on Las Vegas and

911
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:52.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe probably pay more.

912
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:57.079
<v Speaker 1>To get it? Sure, but what that sets is a

913
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 1>bar people are willing to pay this many dollars for Magic.

914
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna say specifically, Universe is beyond Magic where

915
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the next Like I don't know what the next big

916
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.199
<v Speaker 1>set that's coming up with Marvel. Marvel's the next one.

917
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>You think Final Fantasy's lots of money, you went until

918
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 1>fucking Marvel starts printing.

919
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Ship That's why every second sets a final Fantasy set,

920
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:18.199
<v Speaker 2>or I mean a universe beyond set.

921
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:20.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think that this is just really ratcheting

922
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:24.360
<v Speaker 1>it up. I know that global political climate does impact

923
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the cost of this one, yeah, especially for us quite

924
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:31.320
<v Speaker 1>a bit. But man like, this is a lot, and

925
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 1>it does set a very i'm gonna say it, I'll say,

926
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll say it, dangerous precedent for all you Marvel fans

927
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:38.239
<v Speaker 1>out there that are looking forward to getting your Spider

928
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Man and your X Men and your what's another Marvel

929
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:47.199
<v Speaker 1>spider Man's Hulk, Iron Iron Man's Avengers. There we go, Yes, Thunderbolts,

930
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the New Avengers. Everybody loves that.

931
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's like the It's like the Minutemen and

932
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.840
<v Speaker 2>the Watchman. It's like they fricking ripped off Alan Moore

933
00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:58.840
<v Speaker 2>or whatever his name is. It's just me, just me,

934
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:00.599
<v Speaker 2>just me, the only one.

935
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:03.079
<v Speaker 1>That thought of that. Yes, although I do love the Watchman,

936
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:05.079
<v Speaker 1>that should be No, that couldn't be a secret war hey,

937
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:08.199
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, could what would Rorshak do, tap, throw pot,

938
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>grease in your opponent's face, you win the game?

939
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What would what would doctor Manhattan do? Snap his

940
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:17.320
<v Speaker 2>fingers show you a Wiener would just get exploded? Yeah, you.

941
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Flop Wiener on table, create life on Mars. That would

942
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:23.079
<v Speaker 1>be the craziest set.

943
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Hey, oh my god, yeah there is.

944
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. See Gary's got the lingo down. He's perfect. It's

945
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:33.039
<v Speaker 1>been a weird episode.

946
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 2>It's a weird episode.

947
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.800
<v Speaker 1>The point is, I am exceptionally excited to not just

948
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:39.519
<v Speaker 1>get these cards and for everybody else to get them,

949
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to play with them. But I'm looking forward to going

950
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:44.159
<v Speaker 1>on the journey with Gary, who's interested in magic and

951
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Final Fantasy, to see how he reacts to.

952
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:49.199
<v Speaker 2>A magic curious? Yes, is he blue Wiener? Curious?

953
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Who wouldn't be my did glued on the dark?

954
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I'd show to everybody. Yeah, couldn't keep it in my pants.

955
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:58.440
<v Speaker 1>So now you know that my I don't have a

956
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 1>PHOSPHORX and penis. And I'm excited to explain all this

957
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 1>stuff to you because it's very rare that something in

958
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 1>magic comes along where I know so much more about

959
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 1>it than Ryan. It makes him look like a goon

960
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna go, Man, I'm so clueless and all

961
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:15.199
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, and I'm justna be sitting here.

962
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.519
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, flexing what knowledge.

963
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm such a nerd.

964
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I do like to goon.

965
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>See I'm gonna throw that off there on the Internet.

966
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:28.159
<v Speaker 2>But I'm excited if I had, if I had a criticism.

967
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's the thing.

968
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I don't know about what all these characters do,

969
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 2>despite you know, you thinking that I do because I

970
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:38.119
<v Speaker 2>told you that, I.

971
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, because you told me, and I have no reason not.

972
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:42.960
<v Speaker 2>To believe exactly. That's the Internet. I don't know what

973
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 2>they do, and it's hard in magic. It's both hard

974
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 2>and easy in magic to demonstrate, for example, what a

975
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 2>color does red, haste, passion, fast, what the yeah? Green,

976
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:03.039
<v Speaker 2>big dumb, stompy trample step on you win, black, death,

977
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:08.280
<v Speaker 2>white soldier, Blue, smarter than you Yeah, yeah, especially blue.

978
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:12.440
<v Speaker 2>When you start to combine colors and you start to

979
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:17.199
<v Speaker 2>have characters that have complex backstories and emotions, and you

980
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:20.880
<v Speaker 2>try to tailor and fit that together with magic, there's

981
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:25.519
<v Speaker 2>only so many times where your red blue creature can

982
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:29.400
<v Speaker 2>have flying in haste before it's kind of boring or something.

983
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:30.639
<v Speaker 1>When you cast an instant resource.

984
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and or at some point it's like this blue

985
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 2>red flying Haste isn't a two to two for two,

986
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:41.039
<v Speaker 2>it's a three to two for two, or a four

987
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:44.639
<v Speaker 2>to four for three, or a five to five for four.

988
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.159
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, it's just power creeping. Like the raw stats.

989
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 1>You just they just take creatures that are already there,

990
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.639
<v Speaker 1>it's popular, and just make them better and flap slap

991
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 1>with the final fantasy skin on it. Flap a skin

992
00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>on it.

993
00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, do not google that, do not fapyr phosphorescent blueskin.

994
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:06.280
<v Speaker 1>It's a weird episode.

995
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:10.320
<v Speaker 2>There's only so many times you can do that before

996
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 2>magic becomes like the same kind of thing, but with

997
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.559
<v Speaker 2>power creep over and over again. See you gil Now

998
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.679
<v Speaker 2>when you take a character and it's like, oh, blue

999
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 2>and red and it's got flying in haste, because of

1000
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 2>course does in this example, let's put one hundred lines

1001
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:33.239
<v Speaker 2>of text on it to exactly recreate fiddling with dice

1002
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 2>and choosing and flipping coins and giving each other rusty

1003
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.320
<v Speaker 2>trom Joneses and all of these things, because that's the

1004
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 2>flavor of it. That's the flavor. This is exactly what

1005
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:49.000
<v Speaker 2>it does in the game. I'm sure but it's got

1006
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:51.800
<v Speaker 2>a hundred words on it, and all of a sudden,

1007
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 2>it's like a game of Commander is like listening to

1008
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 2>somebody's dissertation. And it's like, man, when did magic turn

1009
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:04.519
<v Speaker 2>in into literally sitting there dungeons and dragons and reading

1010
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:08.280
<v Speaker 2>a novel instead of actually attacking with creatures and casting

1011
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:12.920
<v Speaker 2>combat tricks. And that's just a game complexity thing. It's

1012
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.320
<v Speaker 2>just a a depth and breadth and let's keep it

1013
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:20.039
<v Speaker 2>interesting thing. And it is what modern magic is.

1014
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:21.840
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna get to the point where people are gonna

1015
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:24.440
<v Speaker 1>start reading their cards and after you sat there, I'm

1016
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.079
<v Speaker 1>just gonna stop you. I'm just gonna terminate that thing,

1017
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:29.079
<v Speaker 1>so you'd have to stop reading it. I just want

1018
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:30.599
<v Speaker 1>to hear your voice anymore. I'm gonna kill that.

1019
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:34.119
<v Speaker 2>And you know what it's It's an observation, that's what

1020
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 2>it is. It's not a criticism. It's like saying people

1021
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:37.760
<v Speaker 2>are busier than they used to be.

1022
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:38.440
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

1023
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:41.039
<v Speaker 2>People are just busier because we have a capacity for

1024
00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:45.960
<v Speaker 2>more information at a higher rate. We have cell phones

1025
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 2>now that are calculators in our pocket. We don't need

1026
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 2>to use an abacus or count on our fingers and

1027
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 2>toes I still do. Yeah, while you were born before

1028
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:55.960
<v Speaker 2>the avocust was invented.

1029
00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:58.559
<v Speaker 1>I helped. I helped. That was a good day. That

1030
00:50:58.599 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Speaker 1>was a good day.

1031
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.519
<v Speaker 2>We have the capacity to be busier and magic is

1032
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:06.719
<v Speaker 2>the same thing. We have the capacity to look up

1033
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:10.719
<v Speaker 2>card rulings. We have the capacity to look at dh rec.

1034
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 2>We have content, we have scryfall that just tells us

1035
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:18.199
<v Speaker 2>the ruling. We have companion app and judge help stuff

1036
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:21.199
<v Speaker 2>right on our phone so we can manage all of these.

1037
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:23.159
<v Speaker 2>We've got pre cons that come out of the box

1038
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and fucking rip.

1039
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, these ones will do that.

1040
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:28.719
<v Speaker 2>We've got Oh yeah, they will. We'll talk about that

1041
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:31.280
<v Speaker 2>on the pre con review. Oh yeah. We have the

1042
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:35.000
<v Speaker 2>capacity for these to be hyper complex and give us

1043
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:39.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of the depth and the complexity that Final Fantasy

1044
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:40.400
<v Speaker 2>is known for.

1045
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1046
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:45.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's like they just lean into it. And I'm

1047
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:50.599
<v Speaker 2>just observing that, and I hope that it's not like

1048
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 2>like rad Counters from Fuck and rad Counters Powerful. Yeah,

1049
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:59.400
<v Speaker 2>and they mill you and they do damage or something.

1050
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:00.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they do.

1051
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what they do, but I know

1052
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:04.159
<v Speaker 2>that I like it, and I know that it's good.

1053
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:09.960
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know what it is, so I'm just

1054
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:10.760
<v Speaker 2>observing that.

1055
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I think this is gonna be a good one, and

1056
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna lean more towards the complexity side

1057
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:21.639
<v Speaker 1>than actually encompassing the minutia, which I know what complexity

1058
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and minushul usually go together. But I feel like we're

1059
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<v Speaker 1>just gonna get a bunch of complex game pieces that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe don't necessarily represent the characters in the game to

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<v Speaker 1>the level that people are gonna want, but they're still

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean that's the balancing act. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>a designer or like a game player, like you want complexity.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want just a bunch of one ones attacking

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<v Speaker 2>each other for one and blocking, and whoever draws the

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<v Speaker 2>most number of not land cards is the winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever draws the first two to two is the winner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't want that. Then it's just literally war

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<v Speaker 2>with like bicycle deck cards like spades and clubs and diamonds.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like playing dominoes. As long as you can do math,

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<v Speaker 2>you can maybe win if you draw a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff. Right. I want it to be complex, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don' want to be a dissertation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I agree with that. Oh man, I actually went through.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's how big a nerd I am. Because I like

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<v Speaker 1>six so much. I went through in my brain and

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<v Speaker 1>I made a card for each one of the main

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<v Speaker 1>characters in my head. Yeah, all fourteen of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>the two that have come out nowhere close to what

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would have done.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can't remember somebody's name you met yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had the amount of experience with somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>I met yesterday as I have with the characters in

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<v Speaker 1>Final Fantasy six.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't argue with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is a great deal.

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<v Speaker 2>That is that is something a nerd would say.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been playing Final Fantasy six longer than our studio

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<v Speaker 1>guest Noah has been alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, why a lot. He's like he's born two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh six, oh six oh six.

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<v Speaker 2>Your birthday starts with a two.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a fucking weird this is a weird episode.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what else? We gotta get go. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>some places to do, some people to some people to see,

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<v Speaker 1>some people to thank. They are Fusion Gaming online dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You can use special promo code see ceo nation to

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<v Speaker 1>save yourself five percent of all your final fantasy needs,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some play mats, maybe some swag to make your

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<v Speaker 1>stuff look all cooling out to Rejin of the second

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<v Speaker 1>coolest thing out of there. They are the official refreshment

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor for CEO Sidewalk Slam Season three. Get your applications

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<v Speaker 1>in or get at me if you want to play,

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<v Speaker 1>We want to have you on because that always makes

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<v Speaker 1>the shows a little bit more fun. Big thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>Gary for hanging out with us, for making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the show always sounds good. Noah for hanging out and

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<v Speaker 1>twitching his foot over there. That's all I can see.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to say thank you to the patrons that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to see in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we're gonna start yelling thank you to the patrons

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see in Vegas. The house is booked,

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<v Speaker 1>My flights are there. Ryan will get one as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're really looking forward to that. I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>in that Vegas sun so bad, making my feelings hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you the house has a RC race car track.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure did.

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<v Speaker 2>No cars though we can. We can cross that go through.

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<v Speaker 1>That tunnel when we get there. Bring our Sea cards

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<v Speaker 1>if your local, we'll drive them around in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be sick, and we'll talk more about that final

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy magic in general, and all sorts of super fun

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<v Speaker 1>lifestuff on the next exciting episode of Commander Cook Cout

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<v Speaker 1>podcast in our same
