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<v Speaker 1>Multiple people in my family clean my father are veterans.

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<v Speaker 2>Troops that have been to war and now they're back.

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<v Speaker 3>And think and be grateful for their service.

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<v Speaker 4>Sacrifice, love for their country, just unselfishness, all.

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<v Speaker 3>That they do for us.

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<v Speaker 4>There are some people in this country who take extraordinary

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<v Speaker 4>steps to provide for the freedom and security.

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<v Speaker 3>We forget that those people exist.

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<v Speaker 1>We know them as the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines,

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<v Speaker 1>and Coast Guard. They call themselves soldiers, seals, rangers, airmen, sailors,

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<v Speaker 1>devil dogs, and so much more. We call them fathers, brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>sons and husbands, mothers, daughters, sisters and wives. We call

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<v Speaker 1>them friend and neighbor. These veterans answered the call. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we answer theirs, and they are the best our country

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<v Speaker 3>And we love them.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, we honor them and we serve them. David Malsby

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<v Speaker 1>of veterans, as together we are building the road to hope.

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<v Speaker 3>veterans in the studio with us, today Got justin who

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<v Speaker 3>is on our. Staff we'll hear a little bit of his.

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<v Speaker 3>Story another veteran The center program At Camp hope right,

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<v Speaker 3>right justin want to reintroduce yourself to the. World, yes good.

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<v Speaker 3>Afternoon my name Is Justin.

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<v Speaker 5>LEWIS i am An army veteran from the first Combat Aviation,

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<v Speaker 5>Brigade First Infantry division out Of Fort, Riley. Kansas And

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<v Speaker 5>i'm a staff member At Camp hope now for the

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<v Speaker 5>past four. Years AND i Graduated Camp hope In april

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<v Speaker 5>of twenty twenty, one and so this is my graduation

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<v Speaker 5>month and my four years of working At Camp.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope AND i love WHAT i.

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<v Speaker 5>DO i love everything About Camp hope and THE Ptsd

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<v Speaker 5>foundation Of. America i'm From, Houston, texas.

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<v Speaker 3>And congratulations four. Years that's. Awesome Fort, riley that's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be one of the the not top ten places

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<v Speaker 3>anybody wants to, go, Right that's What that's what most

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<v Speaker 3>people told me WHEN i was In. Korea that was

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<v Speaker 3>my first duty station.

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<v Speaker 5>With korea in two thousand and, five two thousand and,

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<v Speaker 5>six AND i had got orders BECAUSE i didn't. DECIDE

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<v Speaker 5>i didn't really move fast enough on DECIDING i want

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<v Speaker 5>to go To Fort benning OR i want to go To.

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<v Speaker 3>Hawaii that's what a lot of people are say In.

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<v Speaker 5>Hawaii, yes twenty FIFTH id was out, there and that's

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<v Speaker 5>what a lot of people like to go out there

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<v Speaker 5>because Of. Hawaii BUT i didn't do that fast, enough

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<v Speaker 5>and THEY i got orders For, Raley, kansas and they

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<v Speaker 5>were telling.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, oh, man but coming from a long were you?

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<v Speaker 5>THERE i was there two thousand and six all the

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<v Speaker 5>way until twenty eleven WHEN i got an honorable discharge

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<v Speaker 5>out of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Army but most of the TIME i was In.

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<v Speaker 5>Iraq though most of the TIME i was we were

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<v Speaker 5>getting ready to deploy or we were deployed WHILE i was.

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<v Speaker 5>There but the TIMES i, wasn't it was it was

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<v Speaker 5>okay because you, know most of my families From, arkansas

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<v Speaker 5>and being from the, CITY i kind of liked to

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<v Speaker 5>get out of the city a lot of, times and just.

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<v Speaker 3>Being out of the, city not a lot of entertainment

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<v Speaker 3>choices around, there not really not, really you, know you,

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<v Speaker 3>KNOW i LIKE, Nascar so we went to we got

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<v Speaker 3>a chance to go to The Kansas Motor, Speedways so

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<v Speaker 3>there you. Go that was very cool to do that

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<v Speaker 3>In Kansas. City you have pretty good. Barbecue, yeah you're

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<v Speaker 3>not too far From, kansas not too. Far, yeah Although

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<v Speaker 3>i'm not sure about their. BARBECUE i guess it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Edible, yeah put enough sauce on, it you can eat. It,

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<v Speaker 3>yes that's. Funny, Yeah i'm glad to have you back

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<v Speaker 3>In houston with the barbecues. Definitely, YEAH i don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to have sauce to eat, it, right you're right about.

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<v Speaker 3>That we also have a veteran that's in our program

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<v Speaker 3>currently At Camp, hope which is our interim residential program

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<v Speaker 3>for veterans dealing with combat related TO. Ptsd want a quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Introduction who you, are where you're.

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<v Speaker 4>From, yeah my Name's Benny saban From, Hayward. Wisconsin it

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<v Speaker 4>was with The United States navy boord the USS Cre

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<v Speaker 4>sarge and also did two years with The Army National

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<v Speaker 4>guard out Of heyward seven twenty Fourth Fordsport.

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<v Speaker 3>Company we've had a few guys that have done multiple.

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<v Speaker 3>Branches it's been in a while so as we've had

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<v Speaker 3>one on the, show so good to get into that

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<v Speaker 3>a little. Bit where are you?

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<v Speaker 2>From Originally, Hayward, Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 3>WISCONSIN i hear a little bit of that. There, yeah

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we talked to our nose every now and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it's the accent, though it. Cancer, yeah it's like la. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah we were talking earlier and getting to know you

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<v Speaker 3>tell me about the different lakes up, there and it

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<v Speaker 3>was a pretty good. Conversation it's too, cold it's too

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<v Speaker 3>hot In. Texas, SEE i will take the heat over the,

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<v Speaker 3>cold and the heat's. Uncomfortable cold hurts the older you. Get,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah you'll figure it out sooner or. Later all, right

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get into a little bit of his story and

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<v Speaker 3>a little more adjustins as we go along the. Way

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<v Speaker 3>this Is road To, hope, right we'll be right.

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<v Speaker 1>Back who drops the crowd and the place so, loud,

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<v Speaker 1>baby it's, like get.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, man and we welcome you back To road To Hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Radio glad to have you. Along god JUSTIN I State's ARMY.

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<v Speaker 3>Vet four years Of Camp. Hope that's, awesome, Man that

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<v Speaker 3>just that makes me, happy just makes me and to

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<v Speaker 3>think of all the change that's transpired in your. Life H,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah it's just it's a reminder it can work if

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<v Speaker 3>you work it just, Sir, YEAH i JUST i worked over.

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<v Speaker 3>Weekend do to you this.

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<v Speaker 5>Weekend it's like everything happened according to How god wants

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<v Speaker 5>it to. Happen AND i think that's the biggest THING

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<v Speaker 5>i had to, understand and coming To Camp hope helped

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<v Speaker 5>me understand.

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<v Speaker 3>That like. ACCEPTANCE i didn't even realize THAT i was

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<v Speaker 3>the way THAT i was UNTIL i got The Camp.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope like talking to counselors about fear and this fear

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<v Speaker 3>based and as you're trying to control. SITUATION i was,

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<v Speaker 3>LIKE i THOUGHT i was far from. That but THEN

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<v Speaker 5>Realizing more THAN i need to give up the control

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<v Speaker 5>years a lot has.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened, yeah very positive changes In justin's. Life it's. Outstanding

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<v Speaker 3>happy for. You we've also got Ben United States navy

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<v Speaker 3>And United States army veteran uh So wisconsin where it's

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<v Speaker 3>way too. Cold we've already established. That did you go

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<v Speaker 3>into The navy right out of high school or was?

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<v Speaker 4>There, yeah we started the process WHILE i was a,

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<v Speaker 3>Was a nine to eleven kind of a motivator for

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<v Speaker 4>Bit AND i wasn't sure about college at the. Time

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<v Speaker 4>that's the next best bat BEFORE i got in too much.

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<v Speaker 4>Trouble that can, happen you know that age. Happen no clear.

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<v Speaker 4>Direction why did you choose The? Navy, actually my grandfather

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<v Speaker 4>was Uh, navy SO i followed in his. Footsteps, really

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<v Speaker 4>he was In World War? Two, okay do you don't

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<v Speaker 4>know where he? SERVED i DON'T i know he was cook.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice he Was atlantic, side so he's east. Back he

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<v Speaker 4>never had any combat or any submarine problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Or anything like. That that's about ALL i. Know, yeah

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<v Speaker 3>It shouldn't none of them ever. Did, yeah it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>there a, thing all. Right so you served how four?

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<v Speaker 4>Years four Years navy and THEN i got out AND

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<v Speaker 4>i was actually roughly nine months LATER i was recalled

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<v Speaker 4>by The, navy BUT i found out about The Bludha green.

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<v Speaker 4>PROGRAM i didn't want to go back because WHILE i

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<v Speaker 4>was in The, NAVY i was doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>search and seizures when we were In columbia and things like,

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<v Speaker 4>that drug, Raides SO i kind of wanted to stay

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<v Speaker 4>in them. Lines BUT i knew IF i went back

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<v Speaker 4>there just bring me back to be an elevator. Electrician

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<v Speaker 4>SO i switched to The, army which is blue to,

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<v Speaker 4>green and they made me a water purification.

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<v Speaker 3>Specialist that sounds. Fun oh, yeah that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah so where all were you? Deployed you Mentioned columbia

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<v Speaker 4>and then we did a lot of search and seizure

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<v Speaker 4>in The gulf Of.

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<v Speaker 3>Mexico up, north doing the same thing in the. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, no In iraq weate part Of Assault, division so

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<v Speaker 4>we were deploying marines.

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<v Speaker 2>Music?

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah all, right, Okay and so

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<v Speaker 3>you were out a couple of years before you joined the.

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<v Speaker 3>David malsby, here glad to have you. Along all, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>ben here's the question of the. Day are you ready

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<v Speaker 4>All lobsters and you all got mug bugs down?

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<v Speaker 5>all of. That so, definitely i'all can understand where you're coming.

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<v Speaker 5>That that was just to get the, medication to get the,

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<v Speaker 5>pills just to tell my little bit of my, story

420
00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:30.519
<v Speaker 5>and he wasn't really, Listening so that was like it

421
00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:31.680
<v Speaker 5>was just Like i've heard this.

422
00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:34.079
<v Speaker 3>Before here goes the. Pills was that every three months

423
00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:36.240
<v Speaker 3>or you don't even. REMEMBER i would.

424
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<v Speaker 5>TRY i would try to go there as much AS

425
00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:40.440
<v Speaker 5>i needed, to but it was kind of like shining

426
00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:43.920
<v Speaker 5>away from going to THE va BECAUSE i wasn't REALLY

427
00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:50.359
<v Speaker 5>i wasn't really accepting what they were trying to do

428
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:52.680
<v Speaker 5>far as just like you, said being the white coat

429
00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:56.240
<v Speaker 5>like a, doctor, right and it's not somebody that's been

430
00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:56.759
<v Speaker 5>through it like a.

431
00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Clinicial you, know he's just.

432
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<v Speaker 5>Trying he's just LIKE i think he was about to retire,

433
00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:02.880
<v Speaker 5>too so it make it even. Worse he was just,

434
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:04.920
<v Speaker 5>like oh, GOD i was just saying.

435
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:10.319
<v Speaker 3>Over, THERE i know you're not that like. That you've

436
00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:13.240
<v Speaker 3>got a lot of energy compared To oh, man you're

437
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:16.319
<v Speaker 3>not as old as, him but you're definitely not in the.

438
00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Heart yeah too. Late you got a.

439
00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:24.079
<v Speaker 5>Young spirit That i'm there with you all all the

440
00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:25.160
<v Speaker 5>way to to the.

441
00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:29.279
<v Speaker 3>End and this isn't, again this isn't too it's not

442
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<v Speaker 3>the VA's. Fault it's one about to. Mention but that's

443
00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:37.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of the the problem of going at it strictly

444
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<v Speaker 3>from the clinical, view because you're handing a guy who's

445
00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:46.799
<v Speaker 3>struggling with his mental. Health here's here's a cocktail of.

446
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Pills uh, well first of, all can you even trust, him,

447
00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:55.640
<v Speaker 3>right because they're mentally not. Well but here's a whole

448
00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:59.200
<v Speaker 3>bunch of pills that all have serious side, effects not

449
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:02.839
<v Speaker 3>only mental side, effects but it's gonna affect all your major.

450
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.119
<v Speaker 3>Organs when you're taking all that kind of. Medication, yeah

451
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:10.319
<v Speaker 3>and so just out there on your, own especially once

452
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:12.720
<v Speaker 3>you reach the place where you're, homeless and, like, man

453
00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:19.559
<v Speaker 3>that's just a, toxic toxic. Situation, benny was any different

454
00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:21.160
<v Speaker 3>for you when they gave you the? Pills did they

455
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.039
<v Speaker 3>offer any other assistance or.

456
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:24.319
<v Speaker 2>No no other.

457
00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:27.960
<v Speaker 4>Assistance what was different from me Was i'm so far

458
00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:31.000
<v Speaker 4>north In wisconsin that all of our stuff was done

459
00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:34.960
<v Speaker 4>through just the video, calls so they could send me

460
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:38.319
<v Speaker 4>to any psych. Anywhere at one, POINT i had three

461
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:41.200
<v Speaker 4>different at the same, time and they weren't communicating with each, other.

462
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:44.720
<v Speaker 2>SO i was getting three doses of Different.

463
00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Now there's a STORY i haven't heard, before Justin i've

464
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:50.319
<v Speaker 3>never heard that one a little.

465
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:52.920
<v Speaker 4>Different they were tracking. It and WHEN i SAY i

466
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:54.480
<v Speaker 4>didn't care about, nothing what's?

467
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:58.319
<v Speaker 2>EVERYTHING i. Was was this BEFORE, Covid, yeah long.

468
00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Before so it WASN'T covid.

469
00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Driven, no it's twenty distance.

470
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.240
<v Speaker 3>Driven which is a part of the problem with THE

471
00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:10.799
<v Speaker 3>vas also had for a, while you, know and a

472
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:12.839
<v Speaker 3>few years ago there was some effort made In congress

473
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:14.400
<v Speaker 3>to try to fix it to a, degree AND i

474
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:15.720
<v Speaker 3>think it helped a little. Bit but they just have

475
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:17.960
<v Speaker 3>a lot further than they need to take. It but

476
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.079
<v Speaker 3>this whole idea of. Uh for, instance you could live

477
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 3>in let's Say, Cyprus, texas and if you had an

478
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:34.960
<v Speaker 3>eight thirty appointment at THE vau mean you would have

479
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:37.559
<v Speaker 3>to if you had a, CAR i, mean you would

480
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.200
<v Speaker 3>have to leave probably about six thirty to get through

481
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:43.240
<v Speaker 3>traffic get to the. Hospital then it's going to take

482
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:45.839
<v Speaker 3>you twenty five or thirty minutes to find a place to.

483
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Park if you're familiar with The BAKER va at, all

484
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:55.039
<v Speaker 3>it is notorious for parking. Issues and so the question, was,

485
00:26:55.079 --> 00:27:01.000
<v Speaker 3>well why are you driving past literally probably fifty to

486
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 3>seventy pharmacies to go get your prescription filled at THE

487
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 3>va when you could get it, filled you, know three

488
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:16.039
<v Speaker 3>minute walk or a five minute. Drive and that was

489
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:17.519
<v Speaker 3>part of the. Problem so they had you on three

490
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 3>different doctors at the same time and none of them.

491
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:24.079
<v Speaker 4>Talking none'm talking to each, other, Right and, yeah they're

492
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 4>all three of. Them only one of them had me

493
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 4>on two medications and the other ones had me three to.

494
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Four SO i was TAKING.

495
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.200
<v Speaker 4>I, Mean i'd have a full rack with those, weekdays

496
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:37.799
<v Speaker 4>AND i was taking the whole rack for the. Day

497
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.079
<v Speaker 4>WHEN i SAY i didn't care about. ANYTHING i didn't care.

498
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:43.200
<v Speaker 3>About, nothing, Right and getting back to the problem THAT

499
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.200
<v Speaker 3>i just mentioned that they're handing out medication but there's

500
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 3>no oversight and how could THEY i, mean you're, living you, know.

501
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Wherever so Again i'm not blaming, Them i'm just saying

502
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 3>it's a problem that has to be figured out because

503
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:01.279
<v Speaker 3>they're they're putting, guys they're teen guys up for, failure

504
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 3>that's what they're. Doing like.

505
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.559
<v Speaker 4>It it took me to a point after we finally

506
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.680
<v Speaker 4>figured out what was going on THAT i had done

507
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 4>some pretty bad things just because it's like the sense

508
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 4>of caring about anything other THAN i, mean not even really.

509
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Myself at the.

510
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.720
<v Speaker 4>TIME i don't want to feel that way, again SO

511
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.240
<v Speaker 4>i do EVERYTHING i can to stay away from.

512
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:26.519
<v Speaker 3>Medication, yeah, WELL ptsd alone can do, that just shutting

513
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 3>down the filter in the, brain like there's no right or,

514
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.519
<v Speaker 3>wrong it's just shut. Down then you throw in the,

515
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:37.400
<v Speaker 3>cocktail make some, meds and especially if you're adding alcohol to,

516
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:41.160
<v Speaker 3>it like there's a there's a recipe for. Failure all,

517
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:42.839
<v Speaker 3>right we're gonna take a quick. Break we'll be right

518
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.559
<v Speaker 3>back with more Of road To. Hope radio got Justin,

519
00:28:46.119 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Speaker 3>Benny we'll be right back and we welcome you Back

520
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:20.799
<v Speaker 3>road To Hope. Radio all, Right, so, uh basically seven

521
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:25.240
<v Speaker 3>is years in the. MILITARY a few years, later four years,

522
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 3>later you start realizing there's some issues going on and

523
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 3>go to the, a start the medication, thing get tired of,

524
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 3>that and just completely go off the, meds, right is that?

525
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Right all? Right so that was a while. Ago.

526
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

527
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah when did you arrive At Camp?

528
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Hope uh The december thirtieth this year or, no last?

529
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Year, YEAH i got that's a lot of time in.

530
00:29:53.480 --> 00:30:01.160
<v Speaker 4>Between, yeah, YEAH I I i bury everything was as

531
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 4>much work AS i possibly, could just to have something

532
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:12.279
<v Speaker 4>else to worry. About then WHAT i should have been worrying,

533
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:14.279
<v Speaker 4>ABOUT i guess is the best WAY i can put.

534
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:19.680
<v Speaker 4>That if it had to do with, WORK i could

535
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.960
<v Speaker 4>go to social, Interactions but if it, DIDN'T i didn't want.

536
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>To have anything to do with. Them.

537
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:28.759
<v Speaker 4>Really i'd usually be, camping, hunting and fishing by myself

538
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:32.119
<v Speaker 4>IF i. Could but after a WHILE i even lost

539
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 4>interest in. That.

540
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah ONCE i started stop doing, THAT i knew there

541
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:37.480
<v Speaker 2>was no.

542
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Problem, yeah that's my. Passion, sure, yeah, Yeah well we

543
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 3>want you to get it.

544
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Back, oh, yeah working on.

545
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:50.920
<v Speaker 3>It give me a story of an overview of what

546
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:55.160
<v Speaker 3>led you, to you, know realizing you needed something Like

547
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 3>Camp hope where THEY i mean just you needed help

548
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 3>and how did you hear about? Us just kind of

549
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:01.960
<v Speaker 3>walked me through that a little.

550
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:07.119
<v Speaker 4>Bit, well it's it's actually so in. BETWEEN i had

551
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.160
<v Speaker 4>been trying to actually seek help Because i've known there's a,

552
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.119
<v Speaker 4>problem But i've been denied so many times for different

553
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:21.119
<v Speaker 4>reasons and whatnot insurances or not qualifying or not having a.

554
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 4>DIAGNOSIS i believe it was me and my Girl. Chris

555
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:29.559
<v Speaker 4>we started researching in all kinds of places and she

556
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 4>Found Camp. Hope and there's the first ones to, say.

557
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:40.519
<v Speaker 4>Yakamon yeah it was the first time hearing, That SO

558
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 4>i didn't hesitate AND i was on a planet on

559
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 4>the way.

560
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:50.680
<v Speaker 3>Here, yeah interesting. Timing just simhear the thirtieth, Like, OKAY

561
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:55.319
<v Speaker 3>i got, IT i understand been. Here so you've been

562
00:31:55.359 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 3>here four and a half ish. Months how are we.

563
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:05.039
<v Speaker 4>Doing i'm doing a lot better THAN i. Was i'm

564
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Speaker 4>starting to design baits. Again in my off time at.

565
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 4>CAMP i really.

566
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Want to go. Fishing that's driving me.

567
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:17.799
<v Speaker 3>CRAZY i was gonna say that we might be able

568
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 3>to fix. That we might be able to do something

569
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:25.359
<v Speaker 3>about that. One, yeah that's coming up right. Again, HEY

570
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:26.799
<v Speaker 3>i don't want to mess up the name of the.

571
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:31.960
<v Speaker 5>Event, yeah M i don't Want warriors.

572
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Weekend, yeah it's just talk about some of, it but

573
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 3>think about crawfish and then, Yeah warriors weekend is coming, Up,

574
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 3>Yes wars. Weekend, yeah you able to go down The

575
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 3>mexico or go For american it's water and go fishing

576
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 3>off the banks of uh Of. Texas so you're gonna

577
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna have a great. Time it's a great. Weekend.

578
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:57.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you make sure that you don't miss that. Bus,

579
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.880
<v Speaker 3>uh you'll be treated. Cruelty it's, truly it's an amazing.

580
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 3>Weekend uh they do they just they treat everybody so

581
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 3>great on. Those so hopefully you get to go fishing

582
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>here real, quick what's changed for? You what's what's the

583
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:15.519
<v Speaker 3>different in your?

584
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Mindset the counselors that can't hope have been absolutely.

585
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Amazing they no.

586
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.279
<v Speaker 4>Meds we've just been working through different things and we

587
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:31.079
<v Speaker 4>started new saying called cognitive, therapy Which i've never experienced,

588
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Speaker 4>before which has been huge because one of my biggest

589
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:39.559
<v Speaker 4>problem with avoidance starting to learn that and get things.

590
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Out not having an hour twice a week to do

591
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 4>it is Something i've never had. Before it's helping a

592
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:50.839
<v Speaker 4>lot good group of guys THAT i. Have we do

593
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.920
<v Speaker 4>a lot of warrior groups even within the house ourselves

594
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.240
<v Speaker 4>plus the warrior groups that.

595
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 3>That's the peer to peer. Thing, man it, Works it, helps,

596
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:04.599
<v Speaker 3>works it works afterwards, too if you just stay in

597
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.839
<v Speaker 3>contact with the. Guy that's one of the beautiful things

598
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:12.840
<v Speaker 3>About Camp hope, is, uh you, know everybody come from

599
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 3>different places and different, experiences in different, backgrounds but all

600
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:21.320
<v Speaker 3>the shared experience of you, know trauma while in the.

601
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Military so there's that shared experience that draws everybody. Together

602
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.559
<v Speaker 3>but there's this whole bunch of strangers from all across

603
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.639
<v Speaker 3>the country at all different age, ages age, ranges, goodness

604
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:40.800
<v Speaker 3>but they become friends for life, afterwards AND i love

605
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.400
<v Speaker 3>seeing that take. PLACE i just think that's one of

606
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.159
<v Speaker 3>the coolest parts About Camp. Hope this is just you,

607
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:49.079
<v Speaker 3>know we talk about side effects for. Pills this is

608
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.039
<v Speaker 3>a side effect From Camp. Hope you've got a lot

609
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 3>of brothers out.

610
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:57.599
<v Speaker 5>There WHEN i first got The Camp, HOPE i didn't

611
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.000
<v Speaker 5>realize how like.

612
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 3>How bad it was for me BECAUSE i.

613
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 5>WAS i got there and it was they just went

614
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 5>straight to the warrior group or straight to the. Conflicts

615
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.079
<v Speaker 5>it was, conflicts AND i you, KNOW i heard everything

616
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:14.039
<v Speaker 5>that goes along in, conflicts. Right and then, AFTERWARDS i

617
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.920
<v Speaker 5>mean they were all coming at each other like this

618
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:19.000
<v Speaker 5>and that and just kind of trying to figure things.

619
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 5>Out and then afterwards it was like giving hugs and

620
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 5>SAYING i love.

621
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 3>You AND i hadn't had that in a.

622
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 5>Long, time to be honest with, you like hugs and

623
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:29.280
<v Speaker 5>someone tell me THAT i.

624
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Love, you and you, know it's like, okay, yeah, right

625
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 3>where my? At, yes what's going on? Here?

626
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it.

627
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Worked it wore on me real. Quick, yeah you, know

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<v Speaker 3>AND i.

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<v Speaker 5>Still do that to this, day just tell PEOPLE i

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<v Speaker 5>love them AND i care for them and love like

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<v Speaker 5>they say in The, bible, right love is the.

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<v Speaker 3>heard of?

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting helps guys realize one that they're not as unique

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<v Speaker 3>as that's all they were, Like i'm the only ones. Ever, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>no you're not stand in. Line but you, know back

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<v Speaker 3>huge and, yes it's forcing you to dig down into

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<v Speaker 3>Room but everyone in the room gets.

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<v Speaker 4>especially because trying to talk with people back home about

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<v Speaker 4>things THAT i had done or combat That i've, seen

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<v Speaker 4>they just want to grass the. Concept within the first

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<v Speaker 4>week or two of being In Camp, hope it was

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<v Speaker 4>back to having conversations with the same guys as me,

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<v Speaker 4>just us. There we have a humor that a lot

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<v Speaker 4>people don't understand and the things that we started laughing

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<v Speaker 4>about immediately WHEN i got in, there it was like

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<v Speaker 4>all right back to normal for a little bit, here

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<v Speaker 4>started figuring things, out and it's working doing what it.

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<v Speaker 3>Said it's going to any trauma related and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>matter what it. Is but any trauma related, groups the

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<v Speaker 3>humor can get really, dark really really, dark and it

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<v Speaker 3>dark really. Fast but, YES i. Understand hey, man happy

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<v Speaker 3>for the progress that you've. Made just keep doing, it

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<v Speaker 3>keep doing the, work keep, learning keep working through the,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely you got a good guy sitting next to. You

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<v Speaker 3>making tell it to you on the way, back because

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<v Speaker 3>it's proof that stick with. It absolutely life. Changing absolutely

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