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Let's get out to the hot line. Welcome in Ballers,

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shot Collar D Shan. Oh wait, he's not on the

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line yet, D Shine.

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Speaker 2: Walker. He's going to join us here shortly.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I can't wait to Delvin del the k nooks

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and crannies with my guy, Sean Walker.

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Speaker 2: Sean you living.

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Speaker 3: Uh up down, left? Right? Or in the current age

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of college sports, I guess west is right and right

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is west because we've got we've got G League players

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playing college basketball. Pretty sure NFL draft picks are going

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to be coming back to college football any day now.

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And uh, I think Pet's heads are falling off.

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Speaker 1: Then hey, those that you know, they they they feel

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like there's there's two trains of thought here. Those that

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are saying all is not well, all is ruined, nothing

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is right, and others that are saying all is well. Look, Indiana,

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just one one the national championship. Uh, you know that

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you're seeing in college basketball as well as are we

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Speaker 2: A second, let me let me evaluate this really quick.

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Speaker 1: Are we seeing something similar in college basketball as we

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are in college football where there's been a little bit

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of the flipping of floppity Indiana, they're losing his team

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in college football history, all of a sudden, winging Natty

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oh Miss, a middling SEC team was there Miami, who

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hasn't been in the in the conversation for like thirty years,

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they got into the national championship game.

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Speaker 2: They were a ten. Say that's almost a Cinderella's story.

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Speaker 1: Sean, Are we seeing something similar in basketball or just

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Speaker 3: I think you're on the right track then. I mean,

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we're very much seeing the flattening of the playing, of

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the flattening of the curves in college sports right now.

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And it's because of a lot of changes that have

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been made in recent years, namely NIL the transfer portal.

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I think the rise in coaching has helped a lot,

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but I think it's just helped to kind of spread

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it around the left. Like, look, ten years ago, you

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know we talked about the twenty twenty six twenty sixteen trend. Right,

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it's all over my TikTok seat twenty sixteen. Apparently it's

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the thing right now. If you go back to twenty sixteen,

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what were people complaining about in college sports, it was

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Alabama is winning everything. It's always two SDC teams in

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the final. You can always count on one hand, you know,

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three or four teams that are that are going to

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be contending for championships, So maybe Ohio State occasionally jumps

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in there. Now, all of a sudden, you have this

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incredibly rich, diverse pool, not only a champion, three different

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College Football Playoff national champions in the last three years,

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all from the Big Ten. We can maybe get into

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that if you want to, but you also just have

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more teams that are relevant right now. You mentioned Miami,

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you mentioned Notre Dame. How relevant were they getting left

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out of the College Football Playoff? Right? Notreed is Notre

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Dame back. I think there's an argument that they are

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byu with suddenly on everybody's tongues, which you couldn't say

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back in twenty sixteen, unless it was for some POI

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that shall not be named, that we're not gonna talk

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talk about it. Don't worry, don't worry about We're not

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gonna talk about it. But yeah, I mean I college

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football to stay on the college football train. College football

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has really never been popular. Thirty million people watched the

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CFP National Championship between Indiana and Miami. That's a thirty

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six percent increase from last year. That's the highest in

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over ten years, since the twenty fourteen twenty fifteen season.

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yet there's still people complaining about nil about the transfer portal,

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about how it's ruining the sport, even though it's doing

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the exact same thing that everybody wanted it to do

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ten years ago, which is flatt that curve, spread out

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the well, you know, push talent to more than just

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the Alabamas and maybe the Georgia's and the Auto States

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of the world. Like, I'm very much of the half

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glass bull when it comes to college sports, and I

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think it's okay to admit then, quite frankly, that a

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lot of it is because guys are getting paid, Guys

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are allowed to move, Guys are allowed to professionalize or

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semi professionalize at least their brands, and make the players

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as big as the coaches in the sport. I think

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it's fine. I think it's great.

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Speaker 1: Sean Walker talking some ball here on your Utah ESPN

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little BYU football for a minute. It

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looks like not only does b YU football have Neucy

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tom Wy pay you uh hopefully they get uh John time,

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I pay you back right and he's elible eligible for

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next year, but they got the brother, the big brother

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of news, Daniel tam we pay, who's on the roster now.

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Looks like he's transfered from Eastern Washington. They got a

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lot of dudes in that locker room, a lot of linebackers,

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but the product at of west Lake High School transfers

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Speaker 2: Washington to b YU. What do we know about Daniel?

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TELLMI we pay you, Sean.

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Speaker 1: Have you have you done any research on this particular

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move from b YU?

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Speaker 3: I know a little bit about Daniel. When he was

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coming out of high school, he was a little bit

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of a project, served a mission. I think, so he's

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been out for a little while, for a little while,

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right look, Yeah, if he's if he's anything like JT,

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give me all the tamiyaos as possible. If he's anything

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like like Noucy, give me all the TIMI payos possible.

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Great pickup. And again this is another example of a

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guy who, for whatever reason, wasn't on BYU's radar coming

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as much coming out of high school, went elsewhere, kind

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of wandered in the desert a little bit. Uh coming back.

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a problem about it. But he's excuse me, I got

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some of mycro right there. But yeah, big kid, big kid,

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kind of a bit of pass rush specialist. I think

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it will be really interesting to see where he plays

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out position wise on the YU team. Is he an

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a little over six feet six one to ten. I

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think it was I'm assuming he's probably a little bit

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bigger than that. For some reason, his page over at

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Eastern Washington is down, which conspiracy theorist guys baby to sign.

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I don't know. I'm just saying, batter just got crashed.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's a little bit of a tweener right

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there between that d and outside buying backers, kind of

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pass rusher spot. I don't know exactly where he fits in.

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I'm totally fine taking a flyer on a guy like that,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, give me all the time

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we pay.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, and we'll see what role

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he'll play and what you're what he has as far

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as eligibility is concerned. But I think you're right. I

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think you just got back off on the mission. So

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we'll see. We'll see how it plays out. Sean, it

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is a basketball season. We've started off with football, obviously,

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but BYU lost the U of a nail bider.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you covered it.

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Speaker 1: They've had three games this season where they've fallen almost

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twenty points deep in deficit and somehow work their way

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back into the game and get into like a last possession.

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Speaker 2: What's up with these Cardiac coops?

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Speaker 1: Why is it that they are the seventieth team in

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college basketball the first half and the first best team

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in the second half.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of that just goes down to

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one worry. We've talked a lot about it, about a

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lot about it on this show, then, and that's depth.

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This isn't a particularly deep team. Yes, the Big Three,

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as they're being called, the break three, the Probo Power Company,

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the Provo smoke Stacks, They're they're awesome. AJ, DeVonta Rob Rights, third,

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Riggie Saunders. They've been great. The supporting cast hasn't always

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been there. So if the Big Three shows up, this

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is a great team. It's capable of hanging with anybody

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in the country. All three of them showed up big

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time in that second half against Arizona, but in the

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first half there was some struggle. Bus rob Right didn't

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shoot the ball very well from three. AJ was fine,

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but he's a little bit one dimensional. It seemed like

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Arizona was kind of relegating him to jump shots a lot.

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pointers didn't really get to the rim. Maybe as well,

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if you would like two or three times, but probably

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not as well as you would like. Richie struggled a

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little bit in that first half, and then all of

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a sudden, all three of them came alive in the

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second half, and boom, you add in the likes of

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Cannard Davis Junior and Alexa Kostitch who decided to make

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some pretty significant shots in the second half, and all

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of a sudden, this team is continuing with the number

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one team of the country in Arizona. So, I mean,

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that's kind of where they are. This is a little

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bit of the inverse of last year's team, where I

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think one of the keys to that Sweet sixteen run

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was the fact that you had a deep team. Maybe

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no like quote unquote big time stars in some ways,

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yet Richie Sondez is there, so I guess you could

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throw him in the mix. But it was a team

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that was capable of going eight to nine, sometimes ten

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guys deep. Right, We saw significant minutes and significant actions,

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guys like Tray Stewart from the end of the bench.

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This team doesn't really have that. It doesn't really have

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a deep, consistent bench, or at least it hasn't shown

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to so far. I think if they can find it.

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If they can find that, they can get really just

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about anything off the bench. This is as good of

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a team as anybody in the country. It's when they don't,

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they just see a little bit more of a struggle.

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what are we up to on the year? Three losses

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on the year have come from is when that debt

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is kind of really sort of weird. It's uglyhead, if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's something that we've been trying to diagnose

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in treat this BYU basketball team. Some some are complaining

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about refs, Some are complaining about free throws, some are

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complaining about defensive effort. Some people are just you know,

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wanting to see the brig three you know, you know,

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not shooting nine to forty, right, I.

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who are all averaging double digit points per game twenty

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three point six to eight point eight seventeen point four

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points per game, respectively. Do you know the fourth leading

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scorer on this bo human's basketball teams?

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Speaker 2: Who is it?

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Speaker 3: I want? I want to be Can you guess it?

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Speaker 1: Know?

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Speaker 3: You what I want to. I want to see I

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want to be a little tribute.

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Speaker 2: It is it Dawson Baker who's been in.

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Speaker 3: Dawson Baker seven point five points per game through eight

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games before he went out, uh midway in the.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have it pulled up either. I was just like, look,

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this is good.

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Speaker 1: I kind of felt like it was a trick question

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of like it's probably Dawson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dawson Baker is the fourth leading scorer on this

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by U men's basketball roster. Now Cannard David Junior is

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right up there seven point two points per game. But

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I mean, other than that, other than that break three,

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other than the prolo smokestack, You've got a whole lot

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of just roleplayer minutes, you know, I think, and I don't.

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I don't want to take that away necessarily from what

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some of these role players can do, because I think,

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like Keva Keda, for example, he's way down in the

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scoring ball of six point nine points per game. Also

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a team I seven point eight rebounds per game. So

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like Keava's doing what he's got to do, right, He's

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that rebounder, he's that red rning rit protector. He's averaging

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a couple of locks per game. Like I think there

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is value in role players. I'm not saying there isn't.

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It just doesn't feel like there's been a guy to

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really shoulder much of a load outside of that day three.

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And so if there's ever a night when the Big three,

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any member of those three struggle, that's when you see

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the struggles continue for Byu Bassbay. I think it's a

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lot more likely for something like that to happen. Then

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if you have say six, seven, eight guys who can

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put the ball in the bucket, you're probably going to find,

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you know, three guys that are playing pretty well on

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any given nights.

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Speaker 1: Pretty crazy, Dawson Baker your fourth leading scorer, I mean,

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after that it is Canard Davis Junior. Though Cannard is

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is nipping at the heels at seven point four points

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per game.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was probably actually the biggest story to

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come out of ULA's loft Arizona. Quite frankly then, which

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Canard Davis Junior finals got a shot back a little

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bit six or six and three in the second half.

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We won't talk about the first half too much. Probably

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doesn't want to talk about it too much, but he

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really came alive to that second half, and again it

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was him and Alexi Coastage hitting a couple of threes

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about midway through that second half that I think really

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drought the UYU back into the game. In addition, too,

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obviously you want the ball in the hands of one

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of your big three, probably one of your big two

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in Aj and Rob at the end of that game.

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But I thought I thought Mu and Alexi in particular

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were really kind of the difference in leaving that comeback charge.

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Speaker 1: Sean Walker, what do you got cooking for us at

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ksel dot com? What are you gonna be writing about

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here shortly? What have you written about recently? Tss A

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little bit.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we've got a little bit of everything. If you're

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a BUYU fan. We're diving into well overlap season right now.

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Did you guys see the YU softball pick finished sixth

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in the Big twelve. I'm just kidding. We won't go

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into that too much, but Big One on Saturday, b

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YU Kansasday? Is this the biggest game in BYU men's

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basketball history? Whoab from from an NBA draft perspective, You've

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got the very likely number one and number two pick.

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I won't say likely, but a very possible number one

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versus number two pick in the NBA draft and up

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this Saturday at fog Allen Filhouse between a j De

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Bonsa and Uh and Darren Peterson. Like from an NBA draft,

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from a talent perspective, from an NBA profile perspective, I

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would put this game up there with any NBYU basketball

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history because that has that has that really happened very

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much before.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how how often you've had,

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you know, to one and done's, you know, going against

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each other. In BOE basketball history. You have Yegor, who's

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a one and done. Right, Sean Bradley was a one

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and done before before Jegor came to town. Right, Sean

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the original one and done after serving a mission. I

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guess you could say, but he would have been a

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one and done easy after the nineteen ninety one season.

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But yeah, I mean, this is it's a high profile game.

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I mean, obviously there's gonna be a ton of eyeballs

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on this because it's AJ versus versus Darren, Right, it

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is gonna be a hopefully it's a it's a scoring fest.

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Hopefully it's actually entertaining a j uh. He kind of

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fell short a little bit. He kind of fell short

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in that u of a game, didn't shoot the ball

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as well, was looking for calls, looking for fouls. I

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know he's gonna come. He's gonna bounce back. There's no doubt.

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It's you know, he may take this one personally like

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he did the Utah game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if there's one thing about this YU

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team in general, it's it's that they take as personally.

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It's it's that they bounced back. Obviously, they lost three

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times on the year, but they've yet to lose back

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to back games. I mean, I think that says something

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about just a team that comes back. I think that

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says something about a coaching staff. Kennyyam doesn't like to lose.

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I think he used the pyboard. He said he was mad.

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He was real mad about losing after that game. Didn't

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want any part of moral victory. Is that kind of thing?

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They bounced back from that Texas Tech loss with a

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big win against Utai. Expect a much better effort on

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the road this Saturday. This Saturday afternoon, I guess afternoon,

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almost at night, Saturday afternoon and Lawrence for a pretty

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significant road stretch I seen for this BYU team. Three

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of the next four are on the road, Kansas, Oklahoma State,

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and Baylor. You've got a top ten team in Houston

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coming to the Marriott Center in between there. So these

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next four games I think may help define BYU basketball

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the regular season as much as any in terms of

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do we slot them into the top of the conference

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and to the kind of that cream of the crop echelon,

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or they just sort of a nice team, a good team,

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and maybe half a step behind there. Look, being a

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half a step behind, if you will, the second tier

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of the Big twelve is still pretty good. That's still

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an NBA playoff team if we're really dragging out the

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comparisons a little bit, a little bit far like that.

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But I think BYU could do some damage with the

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next four games to really show that they belong in

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that upper echelant here in the Pig twelve.

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Speaker 2: Sean Walker.

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Speaker 1: Best way to support you, What you do, how you

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do it over at KSHL dot com.

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Speaker 3: You guys already know KISL dot com, ks dot com

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got live streams going up from all of the state

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listening right now in Utah County. Appreciate you guys, but yeah,

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we've got a little bit of everything you talk. Abathar

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on a nice hot speak. I'm disappointed man, you didn't

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ask me any hockey questions today.

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Speaker 2: Clay Kell, Holy mambo.

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Speaker 3: Klayt Keller still maybe the best athlete, definitely the best

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dog dad in the state of Utah. Shout out to

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Clayton Keller uh and his best boy. But the Jazz

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are doing what they do best, which is solidifying their

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top eight protective pick in the NBA Draft, maybe putting

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themselves in position for aj We'll see. But any Utah

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times out there, we got discovered over there as well,

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or just about anything else around the state of Utah.

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So go ahead and give us a bugmarket cafil dot com, slash.

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Speaker 1: Sports, my guy, Sean Walker, appreciate you, great content at always.

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We invite everyone to follow you and read all of

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your content. KJAL dot com, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Brother, Thanks Ben, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: There you go with that Sean Walker. Great segment and

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really fun fact of the day. Dawson Baker is still

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the fourth leading scorer for the bu Events basketball team.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I did not know that.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm hopping on, but I went and had.

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Speaker 4: To look at the stats, and I said, I was

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just sketching out of like that is that gonna bite

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them later on? Like, oh man, that's just it's sad

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that these injuries occurred. But again, a lot of silver

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linings Canard and Alexi. I believe they're both gonna play

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minutes on Saturday. And that's perk Kevin Young, that's not me.

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That's not me making a Khy said it in the postgame.

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