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Speaker 1: When somebody like Prince Andrew gets caught up in a

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situation like this one, usually they can fall back on

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the excuse of, well, it had something to do with

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the affairs of state, or I was acting in my

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official capacity as insert whatever ridiculous bureaucratic position here. But

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what's going on with Prince Andrew this time around is

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a bit unique. This is about his personal life. He

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can fall back on that excuse that he was acting

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as a representative of the state, right, that this was

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just you know, he was dealing with CD people because

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of his position as trade envoy, and he has to

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deal with people like that. Sometimes there's no excuse like

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that for his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. His relationship with

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Jeffrey Epstein was built purely on what I can get

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from him and how this can increase my wealth. That's

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how it all started, in my opinion, with Epstein and Andrew,

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and then obviously it bloomed from there. But it's quite

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obvious that Andrew was using Jeffrey Epstein as well as

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Jeffrey Epstein using Prince Andrew. That's how these people work, right.

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They don't have relationships built on friendship. They have relationships

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built on whose back can I crawl over to increase

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my power? How can I have more of a stranglehold

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on the people around me? How can I increase my wealth?

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That's all these people think about, not interpersonal relationships. It's

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all about what can you do for me? And they

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all go into these sorts of situations, you know, meeting

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each other, understanding the playing field very well. They all

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know the score, they know the deal. They all know

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it's a use or be used society that they traverse.

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Today's article is from foreign policy dot com and it's

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asking a great question. The headline why do royals get

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away with so much? Headline I've excuse me, author Harriet Williamson.

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Epstein did not act alone. So my next step is

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holding other people accountable, the people that were involved, the

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people that actually participated. The monsters are still out there

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and they are still abusing other people. These are the

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words of Virginia Roberts from a Netflix documentary about the

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late financier, pedophile, socialite, and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

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She says Epstein trafficked, raped, and abused her for years

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before she finally escaped to Australia, and look, a lot

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of people didn't really understand what the deal was with

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the Jeffrey Epstein case until the Netflix documentary came out,

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at least a lot of people that I know. I mean,

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they heard about it right and they might have glanced

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at a headline here or there, but they never really

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dove deep into it, never read more than an article

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or two about it. But once it was on the

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screen in front of them, once they could go sit

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down on their couch, order a pizza, turn on Netflix

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and have it broadcast right in their face, it became

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a whole different thing. And those words that Virginia spoke

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in that documentary resonated with a lot of people. She

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also accused Prince Andrew, the Duke of York aka Joe

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Exotic of the Windsor family of being a participant in

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Epstein's Epstein's web of horrifying abuse. As new documents emerge

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in the Epstein case, those accusations are a ticking time

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bomb for the British royal family. Andrew is not high

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in the line of succession, but the toxic world revealed

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by his ties to Epstein has already cost him and

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the rest of the House of windsor dearly. The purpose

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of minor royals has long been as a glamorous tool

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in the world of international connections. With the rottenness of

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that scene exposed, their utility is more in question than ever.

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And he made Harry the author makes a great point here, right,

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it's being exposed for the world to see. You know,

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there was always rumors before that these people were sick

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and twisted, that they ran in a circle full of

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other sick and twisted people. But when you see something

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for yourself, when that curtain is pulled back and the

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light is shined directly inside and you get a glimpse

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for yourself with your own two eyes at what's occurring, oh,

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it is a lot more impact. And the fact that

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these so called royals are still running around to this

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day getting this sort of treatment in the face of

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such incredibly disgusting accusations is mind boggling. And again, I

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don't know what other people are calling for. All I'm

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calling for is a proper investigation, folks. Okay, a proper investigation,

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subpoenad spoken to under oath the whole nine. I don't

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care if you're a royal. I don't care what your

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position is. I don't care if you're a politician. I

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don't care if you're the sitting president of the United

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States of America. If you were involved in this, or

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there is a whiff that you were involved in this,

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you must be questioned. I can tell you categorically, I

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don't remember her at all, The Prince said of Roberts,

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the casual dismissal despite the photographic evidence of his accuser

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is horribly revealing. That's what I've been saying, right Look,

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it's all this little stuff that adds up, all of

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this little stuff that adds up all of these little lies.

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They set the trail towards, you know, the big lie.

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And that's what's been going on here. He's been setting

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the tone for himself. Prince Andrew has nobody to blame

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but himself. He's the one that gave that horrendous interview.

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He's the one that hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. Don't

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blame and complain and yell at people who are calling

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it out, who are talking about it. That makes you

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the buffoon. This guy wants to be talked about and

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have praise just heaped upon him. Right. Well, when you

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do things that are not pray worthy, you can expect

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the opposite. And for me, it is obvious this man

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has established a pattern of lying. He has not been truthful.

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the authorities. So at that point, what are we supposed

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to think. Are we supposed to sit here and say, well,

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that's a he has that right. He shouldn't have to

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talk to the authorities. No, that's that's not that's not correct.

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If you're involved in something like this, you should go

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and speak to the authorities on your own. If not,

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you have to be compelled to do so. And I

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guess that's where we're at with Andrew, because he does

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not want to speak to these authorities on his own.

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That that much is rather obvious. He said he would,

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But here we are, and still he hasn't. Oh, and

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people will say, well, he's reached out several times and

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said that he would given a written statement. All right,

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that's not the same thing. Yet. Even before this scandal,

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there were numerous questions about Andrew's activities, including his involvement

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in arm celles to corrupt and repressive regimes with long

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histories of human rights abuses, twelve separate meetings with the

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President of iSER Bajan that forced the prince to step

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down as a UK trade envoy, and allegedly corrupt behavior

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in securing three hundred and eighty five million pound contract

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in Kazakhstan for Swiss and Greek clients to financially benefit himself.

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And I talked about this as well. I expect this

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sort of shit from these people. I'm not so put

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off and disgusted by their grifting and their stealing. It

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is what it is with these politicians. They're going to

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enrich themselves. Okay, especially in the United States. How many

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of these congressmen and women go into Congress with a

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net worth, you know, one hundred grand, couple hundred grand,

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whatever it may be, and then after a decade in Congress,

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all of a sudden, they're multimillionaires. How the hell does

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that happen on your salary in congress? Oh? Quite obvious.

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You're stealing one way or the other. But with Andrew,

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it has been established for a very long time that

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he has been involved with some cedass, gross ass, disgusting people.

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about the other people he's involved with. Yet in securing

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arms deals and buttering up big wigs, Andrew was in

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some ways only doing what was expected of him as

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a minor royal. The spares instead of the heirs, have

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long been deployed as British diplomatic in trade tools, dispatched

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to bring a touch of glamour to some local tyrant

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or oil millionaire. For sure, this has been a problem

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with the English for a very long time, right and

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America to some extent too. Believe me, America has a

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own problems. We are Cia, as you well know, I feel,

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is probably one of the most evil entities in the

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whole entire world when you look at the things they're

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involved in. So I'm not just singling out the English

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here for their hanging out with scuzz bags and propping

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up dictators, et cetera, et cetera, because it's just a

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common practice of the Western world at this point. Their

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charity work gets more attention, not least because the Palace

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promotes it. But the glad handing of terrible people is

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a critical part of royal diplomacy. Yeah, hey, look that

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is part of it. I'm not going to knock the

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royal family for that. You know, that's part of politics. Unfortunately,

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it's unfortunate that we have sick ass, disgusting strong men

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and dictators all around the world. But part of politics

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is having deton with people that are not your friends.

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Now I'm not a fan of, you know, helping prop

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these people up, but I think it's always a good

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idea to keep the channels of communications open, even with

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your enemies. In fact, even more so with your enemies.

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But the Epstein affair goes beyond that, not least because

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it stood outside the normal affairs of state. Friendship with

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Central Asian oligarchs and Middle East princes might be ethically dubious,

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but at least there's cover of governmental obligations for sure.

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That's what I was talking about. Look, when you're in

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a position like Andrew when he was the envoy, you're

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gonna be dealing with some unsavory characters, right. I don't

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really put all of that on him. I'm not going

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to fault him for that. That was his gig. He

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had a duty to do for queen and country and

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that's that. But when it comes to his Epstein ties,

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he can't fall back on any of that shit. This

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wasn't an affair of state. He chose to be around Epstein.

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He chose to be around Maxwell, and he chose to

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have himself caught up in this disgusting cloud. Epstein, meanwhile,

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purely personal. It didn't help when his car crash. Interview

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with the BBC's Emily Maitliss on November sixteenth, twenty nineteen,

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saw him deny ever having had sex with Roberts because

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he claimed he was at Pizza Express and woking with

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his daughter Beatrice. This gave birth to a whole new

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collection of memes and tweets mocking this very specific denial,

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and it should have I mean, can you have any

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more of a piss poor excuse, a piss poor alibi.

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You're the Prince of England. You have all day to

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sit around and dick around and come up with an

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alibi and an excuse, and you come up with your

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daughter and a pizza shop party. Come on, man. During

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the interview, he also admitted to residing in a Manhattan

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mansion belonging to Epstein for three days in twenty ten,

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despite Epstein's conviction two years earlier for sex offenses against

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a minor. Andrews said it was a convenient place to stay. Yeah,

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looking back on that in hindsight, I'm sure he's having

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second thoughts. It's the convenient place to stay. This guy

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is a convicted sex offender, Okay, and you think it's

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a convenient place to stay. Money's no option object for

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this guy. Look, it's not like me or you were

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backpacking through Europe on a budget and we need to

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find a hostile will crash at. This is the Prince

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of England. This dude could have stayed anywhere he wanted.

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And I'm sure a lot of you are familiar with Manhattan.

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I'm sure a lot of you know the deal when

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it comes to lodging and housing in Manhattan. Plenty of

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top notch places for Joe Exotic of the windsor family

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to rest his oh poor weary head. But instead he

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chooses to stay at Epstein's. That in itself should tell

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you everything you need to know about him. Four days

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after the BBC interview, Buckingham Palace announced in a statement

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that Andrew would be suspended from public duties for the

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foreseeable future, with the consent of the Queen. Basically, he

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got grounded, got his Xbox taken away. His mom said,

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he's not driving the BMW no more. You're getting your

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spurs taken away because I don't want you riding them

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horses even look you're ground at homie. That's basically what

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the Queen told him. Soon after, he gave up his

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role as Chancellor of the University of Huddersfield and stepped

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down from all of his two hundred and thirty patronages.

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Two hundred and thirty patronages really, so that means, in

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my view, two hundred and thirty ways for him to

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skim off the top. You know, these dudes are in there,

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like the dude the Mafia was in the movie Casino

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in the count room getting their skim on. In January

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of this year, the Home Office recommended that the Prince's

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security detail be downgraded. All activities carried out by the

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Prince Andrew Charitable Trust have also been stopped. Andrew is

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now a permanently non active member of the royal family

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with no public facing duties required of him. So basically,

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he's like all of these crazy ass maniacs that are

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destroying the world in the streets around the world right now,

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living in his parents' basement no future ahead of them.

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Nobody wants to kick it with him. So what are

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we going to see next? Andrew out lighting a barrel

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on fire in the street and rioting. But that might

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not be enough. As events unfold in the United States,

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the legal questions around Andrew's actions and the fallout for

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the rest of the family could be critical. A Jane

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Do number three is listed in new papers making accusations

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against him that maybe Roberts again or it could be

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another possible victim, and evidence is emerging backing her accusations,

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like the former employee of Epstein's who has spoken about

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his time working at Little Saint James Epstein's private island

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and how he managed to identify Roberts as the young

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woman seem topless with Andrew grabbing her and grinding against

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her circa two thousand and four. And that's the Steve

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Scully witness statement that he says he saw them on

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the island, with Prince Andy getting rather handsy. The FBI

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has claimed that Andrew has not helped in its investigation

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against Epstein and Maxwell, and has publicly called for the

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Prince to come in and speak to investigators. Audrey Strauss,

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the acting US Attorney in Manhattan said during a press

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conference on July second that prosecutors would welcome Prince Andrew

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coming in to talk with us. We would like to

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have the benefit of his statement. And you notice the

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wording there right, We would love to have Prince Andrew

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come in and talk to us. She don't want a

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written statement. The prosecutors don't want anything to do with that.

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They want to sit Prince Andrew down and they want

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to grill him. Sovereign immunity, the principle that states that

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the people who represent them when acting in their state

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capacity are not liable, has helped royals escape justice in

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the past. Take Abu Baker, the Sultan of Jehor, who,

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on visiting Britain in the eighteen eighties incognito struck up

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a relationship with a young woman, Jenny Miggle, whom he

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promised to marry. He left the country and Miggles sued

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him for breach of promise, a serious civil offense in

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those days. Alas, since Jehora possessed a navy, its own courts,

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and a post office, the British judges deemed it a

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state like any other, and the sultans have been acting

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in that capacity, Leaven miggle out of luck. Such royal

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excuses won't help Andrew though, and that's a fact. Like

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I said, this is not an affair of state. He's

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not going to be able to fall back on the

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Sultan Joehorr excuse here. And it's say he was acting

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as a representative of England when he was involved with Epstein.

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He was acting as a private citizen of England. I

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guess he would say, or maybe a representative of the crown.

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But I know for a fact that he wasn't representing

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the fantastic people of England when he was abusing anybody.

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That's for sure. Such royal excuses won't help Andrew though.

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Despite his status, he doesn't enjoy the same kind of

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immunity that his mother does as head of state. While

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that sovereign immunity can be extended to other royals such

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as Prince Charles when they perform formal diplomatic duties, informal

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ones like befriending uber rich pedophiles don't count in that function.

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And this is where Andrew's going to get himself into

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some trouble. This is where the Prosecutor's office have some

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room to put the thumb down on him, to really

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begin to put the screws to Andrew. He does not

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have sovereign immunity, folks. Now he has the immunity of well,

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I'm a royal of the royal family and I'm sure

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the Queen can manipulate some things for him. As far

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as sovereign immunity goes, he doesn't have it. The Queen

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could go on a murder spree on Fifth Avenue and

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technically be impossible to prosecute. Andrew is out of luck

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and must be quaking in his properly tailored boots at

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the moment. Oh well, I don't know if he's quaking

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in his boots, but I know he's not having any

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RESTful night's sleep. I know at the very least Andrew

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is sweating a little bit. The British Royal family has

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survived more than its fair share of scandals, from illegitimate

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illegitimate marriages to Nazi associations to the cover up of murder,

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and that's just Edward the Eighth. But it has never

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had a member hauled up before a criminal court, let

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alone a foreign one. The British government will be putting

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plenty of effort in behind the scenes to make sure

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that doesn't happen. But if it does, or if the

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cover up becomes a clearer, Britain might start asking that

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hard question again, why do the Royals get away with

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so much? And it's true, right I know from my

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interaction with people from England, I know that they're asking

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that question. People are tired of it. They're really sick

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of people like the Royal Family getting away with literally

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murder at every turn. Nobody suffered after Jimmy Seville, and

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it doesn't look like there's going to be any penalties

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for Andrew. You are either at some point the people

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of Britain the people of England are going to have

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enough and at that point they are going to demand change,

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and I think that we are not far away from that.

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I think that the Royal Family is in severe peril

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of becoming defunct because I really don't know if they're

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going to be able to outlast this scandal. Because we

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have just begun to scratch the surface. More is going

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to come out, and I am sure more of it

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is going to be damning about Andrew, So buckle up, folks.

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I think that we're just at the very beginning the

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tip of the iceberg when it comes to the scandals

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that will be landing in the lap of Buckingham Palace.

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If you'd like to contact me, you can do that

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at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo b

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b y c ap you c CI at ProtonMail dot com.

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You can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore

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