Speaker 1: When somebody like Prince Andrew gets caught up in a
situation like this one, usually they can fall back on
the excuse of, well, it had something to do with
the affairs of state, or I was acting in my
official capacity as insert whatever ridiculous bureaucratic position here. But
what's going on with Prince Andrew this time around is
a bit unique. This is about his personal life. He
can fall back on that excuse that he was acting
as a representative of the state, right, that this was
just you know, he was dealing with CD people because
of his position as trade envoy, and he has to
deal with people like that. Sometimes there's no excuse like
that for his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. His relationship with
Jeffrey Epstein was built purely on what I can get
from him and how this can increase my wealth. That's
how it all started, in my opinion, with Epstein and Andrew,
and then obviously it bloomed from there. But it's quite
obvious that Andrew was using Jeffrey Epstein as well as
Jeffrey Epstein using Prince Andrew. That's how these people work, right.
They don't have relationships built on friendship. They have relationships
built on whose back can I crawl over to increase
my power? How can I have more of a stranglehold
on the people around me? How can I increase my wealth?
That's all these people think about, not interpersonal relationships. It's
all about what can you do for me? And they
all go into these sorts of situations, you know, meeting
each other, understanding the playing field very well. They all
know the score, they know the deal. They all know
it's a use or be used society that they traverse.
Today's article is from foreign policy dot com and it's
asking a great question. The headline why do royals get
away with so much? Headline I've excuse me, author Harriet Williamson.
Epstein did not act alone. So my next step is
holding other people accountable, the people that were involved, the
people that actually participated. The monsters are still out there
and they are still abusing other people. These are the
words of Virginia Roberts from a Netflix documentary about the
late financier, pedophile, socialite, and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
She says Epstein trafficked, raped, and abused her for years
before she finally escaped to Australia, and look, a lot
of people didn't really understand what the deal was with
the Jeffrey Epstein case until the Netflix documentary came out,
at least a lot of people that I know. I mean,
they heard about it right and they might have glanced
at a headline here or there, but they never really
dove deep into it, never read more than an article
or two about it. But once it was on the
screen in front of them, once they could go sit
down on their couch, order a pizza, turn on Netflix
and have it broadcast right in their face, it became
a whole different thing. And those words that Virginia spoke
in that documentary resonated with a lot of people. She
also accused Prince Andrew, the Duke of York aka Joe
Exotic of the Windsor family of being a participant in
Epstein's Epstein's web of horrifying abuse. As new documents emerge
in the Epstein case, those accusations are a ticking time
bomb for the British royal family. Andrew is not high
in the line of succession, but the toxic world revealed
by his ties to Epstein has already cost him and
the rest of the House of windsor dearly. The purpose
of minor royals has long been as a glamorous tool
in the world of international connections. With the rottenness of
that scene exposed, their utility is more in question than ever.
And he made Harry the author makes a great point here, right,
it's being exposed for the world to see. You know,
there was always rumors before that these people were sick
and twisted, that they ran in a circle full of
other sick and twisted people. But when you see something
for yourself, when that curtain is pulled back and the
light is shined directly inside and you get a glimpse
for yourself with your own two eyes at what's occurring, oh,
it is a lot more impact. And the fact that
these so called royals are still running around to this
day getting this sort of treatment in the face of
such incredibly disgusting accusations is mind boggling. And again, I
don't know what other people are calling for. All I'm
calling for is a proper investigation, folks. Okay, a proper investigation,
subpoenad spoken to under oath the whole nine. I don't
care if you're a royal. I don't care what your
position is. I don't care if you're a politician. I
don't care if you're the sitting president of the United
States of America. If you were involved in this, or
there is a whiff that you were involved in this,
you must be questioned. I can tell you categorically, I
don't remember her at all, The Prince said of Roberts,
the casual dismissal despite the photographic evidence of his accuser
is horribly revealing. That's what I've been saying, right Look,
it's all this little stuff that adds up, all of
this little stuff that adds up all of these little lies.
They set the trail towards, you know, the big lie.
And that's what's been going on here. He's been setting
the tone for himself. Prince Andrew has nobody to blame
but himself. He's the one that gave that horrendous interview.
He's the one that hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. Don't
blame and complain and yell at people who are calling
it out, who are talking about it. That makes you
the buffoon. This guy wants to be talked about and
have praise just heaped upon him. Right. Well, when you
do things that are not pray worthy, you can expect
the opposite. And for me, it is obvious this man
has established a pattern of lying. He has not been truthful.
He is not willing to come forward and speak to
the authorities. So at that point, what are we supposed
to think. Are we supposed to sit here and say, well,
that's a he has that right. He shouldn't have to
talk to the authorities. No, that's that's not that's not correct.
If you're involved in something like this, you should go
and speak to the authorities on your own. If not,
you have to be compelled to do so. And I
guess that's where we're at with Andrew, because he does
not want to speak to these authorities on his own.
That that much is rather obvious. He said he would,
But here we are, and still he hasn't. Oh, and
people will say, well, he's reached out several times and
said that he would given a written statement. All right,
that's not the same thing. Yet. Even before this scandal,
there were numerous questions about Andrew's activities, including his involvement
in arm celles to corrupt and repressive regimes with long
histories of human rights abuses, twelve separate meetings with the
President of iSER Bajan that forced the prince to step
down as a UK trade envoy, and allegedly corrupt behavior
in securing three hundred and eighty five million pound contract
in Kazakhstan for Swiss and Greek clients to financially benefit himself.
And I talked about this as well. I expect this
sort of shit from these people. I'm not so put
off and disgusted by their grifting and their stealing. It
is what it is with these politicians. They're going to
enrich themselves. Okay, especially in the United States. How many
of these congressmen and women go into Congress with a
net worth, you know, one hundred grand, couple hundred grand,
whatever it may be, and then after a decade in Congress,
all of a sudden, they're multimillionaires. How the hell does
that happen on your salary in congress? Oh? Quite obvious.
You're stealing one way or the other. But with Andrew,
it has been established for a very long time that
he has been involved with some cedass, gross ass, disgusting people.
And that's not Jeffrey Epstein I'm talking about. I'm talking
about the other people he's involved with. Yet in securing
arms deals and buttering up big wigs, Andrew was in
some ways only doing what was expected of him as
a minor royal. The spares instead of the heirs, have
long been deployed as British diplomatic in trade tools, dispatched
to bring a touch of glamour to some local tyrant
or oil millionaire. For sure, this has been a problem
with the English for a very long time, right and
America to some extent too. Believe me, America has a
own problems. We are Cia, as you well know, I feel,
is probably one of the most evil entities in the
whole entire world when you look at the things they're
involved in. So I'm not just singling out the English
here for their hanging out with scuzz bags and propping
up dictators, et cetera, et cetera, because it's just a
common practice of the Western world at this point. Their
charity work gets more attention, not least because the Palace
promotes it. But the glad handing of terrible people is
a critical part of royal diplomacy. Yeah, hey, look that
is part of it. I'm not going to knock the
royal family for that. You know, that's part of politics. Unfortunately,
it's unfortunate that we have sick ass, disgusting strong men
and dictators all around the world. But part of politics
is having deton with people that are not your friends.
Now I'm not a fan of, you know, helping prop
these people up, but I think it's always a good
idea to keep the channels of communications open, even with
your enemies. In fact, even more so with your enemies.
But the Epstein affair goes beyond that, not least because
it stood outside the normal affairs of state. Friendship with
Central Asian oligarchs and Middle East princes might be ethically dubious,
but at least there's cover of governmental obligations for sure.
That's what I was talking about. Look, when you're in
a position like Andrew when he was the envoy, you're
gonna be dealing with some unsavory characters, right. I don't
really put all of that on him. I'm not going
to fault him for that. That was his gig. He
had a duty to do for queen and country and
that's that. But when it comes to his Epstein ties,
he can't fall back on any of that shit. This
wasn't an affair of state. He chose to be around Epstein.
He chose to be around Maxwell, and he chose to
have himself caught up in this disgusting cloud. Epstein, meanwhile,
purely personal. It didn't help when his car crash. Interview
with the BBC's Emily Maitliss on November sixteenth, twenty nineteen,
saw him deny ever having had sex with Roberts because
he claimed he was at Pizza Express and woking with
his daughter Beatrice. This gave birth to a whole new
collection of memes and tweets mocking this very specific denial,
and it should have I mean, can you have any
more of a piss poor excuse, a piss poor alibi.
You're the Prince of England. You have all day to
sit around and dick around and come up with an
alibi and an excuse, and you come up with your
daughter and a pizza shop party. Come on, man. During
the interview, he also admitted to residing in a Manhattan
mansion belonging to Epstein for three days in twenty ten,
despite Epstein's conviction two years earlier for sex offenses against
a minor. Andrews said it was a convenient place to stay. Yeah,
looking back on that in hindsight, I'm sure he's having
second thoughts. It's the convenient place to stay. This guy
is a convicted sex offender, Okay, and you think it's
a convenient place to stay. Money's no option object for
this guy. Look, it's not like me or you were
backpacking through Europe on a budget and we need to
find a hostile will crash at. This is the Prince
of England. This dude could have stayed anywhere he wanted.
And I'm sure a lot of you are familiar with Manhattan.
I'm sure a lot of you know the deal when
it comes to lodging and housing in Manhattan. Plenty of
top notch places for Joe Exotic of the windsor family
to rest his oh poor weary head. But instead he
chooses to stay at Epstein's. That in itself should tell
you everything you need to know about him. Four days
after the BBC interview, Buckingham Palace announced in a statement
that Andrew would be suspended from public duties for the
foreseeable future, with the consent of the Queen. Basically, he
got grounded, got his Xbox taken away. His mom said,
he's not driving the BMW no more. You're getting your
spurs taken away because I don't want you riding them
horses even look you're ground at homie. That's basically what
the Queen told him. Soon after, he gave up his
role as Chancellor of the University of Huddersfield and stepped
down from all of his two hundred and thirty patronages.
Two hundred and thirty patronages really, so that means, in
my view, two hundred and thirty ways for him to
skim off the top. You know, these dudes are in there,
like the dude the Mafia was in the movie Casino
in the count room getting their skim on. In January
of this year, the Home Office recommended that the Prince's
security detail be downgraded. All activities carried out by the
Prince Andrew Charitable Trust have also been stopped. Andrew is
now a permanently non active member of the royal family
with no public facing duties required of him. So basically,
he's like all of these crazy ass maniacs that are
destroying the world in the streets around the world right now,
living in his parents' basement no future ahead of them.
Nobody wants to kick it with him. So what are
we going to see next? Andrew out lighting a barrel
on fire in the street and rioting. But that might
not be enough. As events unfold in the United States,
the legal questions around Andrew's actions and the fallout for
the rest of the family could be critical. A Jane
Do number three is listed in new papers making accusations
against him that maybe Roberts again or it could be
another possible victim, and evidence is emerging backing her accusations,
like the former employee of Epstein's who has spoken about
his time working at Little Saint James Epstein's private island
and how he managed to identify Roberts as the young
woman seem topless with Andrew grabbing her and grinding against
her circa two thousand and four. And that's the Steve
Scully witness statement that he says he saw them on
the island, with Prince Andy getting rather handsy. The FBI
has claimed that Andrew has not helped in its investigation
against Epstein and Maxwell, and has publicly called for the
Prince to come in and speak to investigators. Audrey Strauss,
the acting US Attorney in Manhattan said during a press
conference on July second that prosecutors would welcome Prince Andrew
coming in to talk with us. We would like to
have the benefit of his statement. And you notice the
wording there right, We would love to have Prince Andrew
come in and talk to us. She don't want a
written statement. The prosecutors don't want anything to do with that.
They want to sit Prince Andrew down and they want
to grill him. Sovereign immunity, the principle that states that
the people who represent them when acting in their state
capacity are not liable, has helped royals escape justice in
the past. Take Abu Baker, the Sultan of Jehor, who,
on visiting Britain in the eighteen eighties incognito struck up
a relationship with a young woman, Jenny Miggle, whom he
promised to marry. He left the country and Miggles sued
him for breach of promise, a serious civil offense in
those days. Alas, since Jehora possessed a navy, its own courts,
and a post office, the British judges deemed it a
state like any other, and the sultans have been acting
in that capacity, Leaven miggle out of luck. Such royal
excuses won't help Andrew though, and that's a fact. Like
I said, this is not an affair of state. He's
not going to be able to fall back on the
Sultan Joehorr excuse here. And it's say he was acting
as a representative of England when he was involved with Epstein.
He was acting as a private citizen of England. I
guess he would say, or maybe a representative of the crown.
But I know for a fact that he wasn't representing
the fantastic people of England when he was abusing anybody.
That's for sure. Such royal excuses won't help Andrew though.
Despite his status, he doesn't enjoy the same kind of
immunity that his mother does as head of state. While
that sovereign immunity can be extended to other royals such
as Prince Charles when they perform formal diplomatic duties, informal
ones like befriending uber rich pedophiles don't count in that function.
And this is where Andrew's going to get himself into
some trouble. This is where the Prosecutor's office have some
room to put the thumb down on him, to really
begin to put the screws to Andrew. He does not
have sovereign immunity, folks. Now he has the immunity of well,
I'm a royal of the royal family and I'm sure
the Queen can manipulate some things for him. As far
as sovereign immunity goes, he doesn't have it. The Queen
could go on a murder spree on Fifth Avenue and
technically be impossible to prosecute. Andrew is out of luck
and must be quaking in his properly tailored boots at
the moment. Oh well, I don't know if he's quaking
in his boots, but I know he's not having any
RESTful night's sleep. I know at the very least Andrew
is sweating a little bit. The British Royal family has
survived more than its fair share of scandals, from illegitimate
illegitimate marriages to Nazi associations to the cover up of murder,
and that's just Edward the Eighth. But it has never
had a member hauled up before a criminal court, let
alone a foreign one. The British government will be putting
plenty of effort in behind the scenes to make sure
that doesn't happen. But if it does, or if the
cover up becomes a clearer, Britain might start asking that
hard question again, why do the Royals get away with
so much? And it's true, right I know from my
interaction with people from England, I know that they're asking
that question. People are tired of it. They're really sick
of people like the Royal Family getting away with literally
murder at every turn. Nobody suffered after Jimmy Seville, and
it doesn't look like there's going to be any penalties
for Andrew. You are either at some point the people
of Britain the people of England are going to have
enough and at that point they are going to demand change,
and I think that we are not far away from that.
I think that the Royal Family is in severe peril
of becoming defunct because I really don't know if they're
going to be able to outlast this scandal. Because we
have just begun to scratch the surface. More is going
to come out, and I am sure more of it
is going to be damning about Andrew, So buckle up, folks.
I think that we're just at the very beginning the
tip of the iceberg when it comes to the scandals
that will be landing in the lap of Buckingham Palace.
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