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Speaker 1: You talk about extreme. What is happening and what is up?

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Hold out your glass because we're about to feel it up.

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Speaker 3: Join us as we travel and explore the vast unknown.

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It's a hero's journey with dragons to slay, damsels to save,

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and innumerable treasures to hoard. Our torch is high, you know,

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Enigma Cast Nerds. I've got a special guest

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on tonight, Doc Brown aka Justin Brown, East Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Boys.

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Speaker 4: As you can see, they break the mold when they

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make our type there and so Doc Brown has written

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a book and I have brought him onto the show

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to talk about this book. Enigmates. This is a fascinating

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book that he has written. I've actually am in the

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process of getting ready to order it. My schedule has

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been jammed up, and I'm actually happy to meet your acquaintance.

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Speaker 1: Doc.

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Speaker 4: Introduce you to all my nigmates. So Doc, please tell

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us a little bit about yourself and then we can

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dive into your book.

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Speaker 1: There, buddy, Hey, man, I appreciate you having me. And yeah,

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we found out pre role where we've stomped around in

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the same woods. We're both the you know, Tri State

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area East Tennessee boys. Ye, and we got a mutual

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friend with with Harley, so he's one to hooked us up.

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So Harley, if you watch this, man, I appreciate it.

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But yeah, man, just I'm a hell billy man. I'm

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East Tennessee boy, been a factory at most of my

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life and uh uh, you know, I grew up and

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was raised in the church. You know, of course had

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my you know, rebellious stage like anybody else, but it

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was always fascinate with history, UFOs, cryptids, and the Bible

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and just to all the weird stuff, you know. And

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it was probably maybe around twenty twelve I got exposed

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to like Trey Smith from God in a Nutshell on

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YouTube and then that kind of just led me down

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the road to like Derreck, Gilbert, Mike Heiser, doctor jud Burton,

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and just some of these people that kind of running

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our circles and started just showing me all this fascinating

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stuff in history and in the Bible and all these

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ancient texts, and it just blew my mind, man. And

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it was kind of like a Laddin, you know. It

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opened me up to a whole new world. And I

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just started going down these rabbit trails, man. And next

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thing you know, I started talking to friends about it,

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and we were like, Hey, one of my buddies is like,

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was in the twenty twenty two, started a podcast with

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all that kind of stuff, but just kind of filter

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it through my Biblical perspective on things. So then I

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started the Prometheus Lens, and long story short, ended up

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stumbling on this subject matter with Esau and started going

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through just all kinds of rabbit trails with ancient biblical

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texts and extra biblical texts and Jewish legends and lore.

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Just man, I found a really cool story that was

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broken up into a million pieces and put it together

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for the first time. This I can honestly say, this

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is unexplored territory. It was fascinating to find it.

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Speaker 4: I totally agree with you, man. I've got the cliff

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notes of your book, and I want to before we

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get into that too. I also saw I called one

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of you, like I said, I told you my phone

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spies on me. So I'm getting some of your contents

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blowing up. And you actually had a very interesting take

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on the Book of Revelations that I've been saying for

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a while that I totally agree with you on. And

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we'll get into that as as we progress. But real quick, man,

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tell everybody where they can find you and where you're at,

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and let's give your let's give your book a proper

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man. As far as the podcasts, you know, it's

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the dig Bible podcast and Prometheus Lens podcast. Anywhere you

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can consume content, uh, YouTube, Spotify, Apple, any of those places.

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ex TikTok all those places. Just search up the name.

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You'll be able to find it there. And that the book.

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It's exclusively on Amazon right now. So just go to

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Amazon and just type in the Epic of Esau and

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you'll be able to find it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all the contact information will be in. We'll end

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the description and digmitch you and click on that.

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Speaker 1: Go there.

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to put the book link in there as well, if

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it'll let me do it. Put the book link it

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so you can click it and go get the book.

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I'm going to order it as well to get into it.

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So Doc Brown, real quick, I have some heathens. Not

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everybody was raised like we were with the belt and

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the switching in the church, So real quick, before we

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get into it, give my nig mitesus a quick rundown

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on who Esau was and a little bit about it's

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a very famous story. It's actually like one of the

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I would say, consider a pillar story in the Bible.

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which is up on amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, you know, Esau is honestly one of

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the most enigmatic characters in the Bible. And it's kind

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of like the Genesis six event. You know, that's blowing

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up so big now, the Nephilim giants, you know, you

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hear so much about it, and it plays such a

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pivotal role in the Biblical text, and all your conspiracy theories,

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it all branches back to these Nephilim giants. But in

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your Bible, you just get this little blurb in Genesis six.

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they didn't need to theoretically beat a dead horse because

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they had well established oral traditions, all these other scrolls

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that went into great detail about this event. So they

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were like, they weren't thinking about us thousands of years

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later reading this, so they were like, Ah, that subject's

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well covered. We don't need to go into detail about that.

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this guy named Esau. So when you go into the Bible,

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it just says that, you know, there's this birth of

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these twins, or the actually the conception of these twins

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Jacob and Esau, and the Angel of the Lord says

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that tells the mother that two nations, two peoples are

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in her womb, and they battle against each other in

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the womb, enmity with each other in the womb, and

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that's one would be stronger than the other, but that

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the younger would rule over the older. And in Jewish context,

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that's completely backwards. The eldest was the one that ruled

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and the younger served the older. So and then when

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you get the birth, you know, it says that Esau

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comes out red, covered in hair from head to toe,

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like a Harry Cloak.

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Speaker 4: And I think it also says, too, right, like he

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was gripping the ankle of his brother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacob, the younger brother was gripping his heel.

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Speaker 4: Yell right, yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And when you go through, uh, it kind of

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just fast forwards to their adulthood, and it just says

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one day that you know, Esau is the mighty hunter.

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He's known as this mighty hunter. And he comes in

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from the field exhausted and he sees his brother making

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some red stew and he tells his brother that, you know,

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he's exhausted and he wants some of that red stew.

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give you the stew And the birthright is basically, like

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you know, modern context, if your father was Donald Trump

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and you're the eldest son, you're going to inherit the business.

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the next in line with the keys of the kingdom.

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what use is a birthright to me when I'm dead?

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the birthright. And then so even that didn't make any

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sense to me as a kid reading that story. And

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then the biblical text just kind of you know, gives

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you the genealogies after that, and he bursts this Edomite

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race that basically is a thorn in the side to

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and enmity with one another. And that's all you get,

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you know, with basic the biblical narrative.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the story, Yeah, the story. The story Again, when

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day like Okay, this isn't a big deal. Because they

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were into it. But but but, like you said, two

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thousand odd years later, when we're looking back on it,

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of Esau, he was so hairy that they said, you know,

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that his mother like killed a lamb and put the

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lamb skin on him, so his when his father was blind,

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he would touch him. I thought to myself like like like, like,

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you're that hairy. That's I just found it really odd, right,

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I found it very odd.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: And then again he was he was referred to as

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the great as the great hunter. And so I'm really

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big into the that book back there, the fifty four apocraphy,

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the books that were taken out of the you know,

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the Bible Council of Thessina, and uh, it was not uncommon. Man,

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Like if you read the Book of Enoch, the Book

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of Genesis makes like crystal clear sense why God came

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down and how everything was perverted, and how they birthed

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the faith, the Nephilum created the fay and what we

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what you know modern day you know, lack for a

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better word, a big foot, right, I mean like a

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lack of I mean like, there's no other word for it.

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A sasquatch. Get into it, right? Yeah, so that is

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so in your book. I haven't read it yet. So

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in your book, is that the angle that you take

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towards who who Esau really was or or.

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Speaker 1: Well, what I've done is as honestly, this this was

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you get to follow my trail of discovery, honestly, because

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my first assumption was when I read it, I was like, man,

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this sounds like a sasquatch to me. You know, if

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we take the let the text just say what it says,

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you know, remove our preconceived notions what we're taught. If

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out in the woods or out on the street, we

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would say, I seen a sasquatch. And like you had mentioned,

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the top of the brother. And so the people that

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you know, thick beard on him. No, I mean he

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was literally that Harry, So I throw out that hypothesis.

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I'm like, you know, he sounds like a Sasquatch, you know,

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and I want to look further into this. But as

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I got to looking, I started going through all these

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other extra biblical books and texts, and I do hold

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to that, but I started finding and all these other

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little interconnective tissue that went along with it. And like,

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for instance, I actually had Trey Smith on the show

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and we were talking and he was like, oh, well,

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you're from East Tennessee. That's bigfoot country. Maybe I'll come

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down and we'll go bigfoot hunting sometime and we'll record

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it make a documentary. And I said, yeah, man, come

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on down, and out of know where, that verse just

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sprung into my mind. And that was the first time

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that I had this kind of light bulb moment, and

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I was like, Trey, what do you think about Esau?

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You know, he come out red covering hair and had

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the toe that sounds like a bigfoot, don't it. And

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he was like, Hey, you might be onto something. Yeah.

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He was one Harry dude, wouldn't he. And it was

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like that next week I had Gary Wayne on and

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we were going through the epic of Gilgamesh, right, and

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we get to that story and we get to inky Do.

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He's covered in hair and he's this mighty hunter and

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fights with Gilgamesh. And I'm like, dude, it sounds a

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lot like this, you know, Esau. And then I tell

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you know lies. The very next week, I had another

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guest on and we were having to go through the

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Book of jasher Ye and I'm reading through the Book

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of Jasher and then boom, I get to this story

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that is almost, I mean, a mirror image of the

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epic of Gilgamesh, but it's it's Nimrod and Esau. And

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a lot of historians align Gilgamesh and Nimrod anyway, and

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this inky Do is described exactly like Esau. And so

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when you get into the Book of Jasher, it said

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that that Nimrod had built up contentment and resentment and

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jealousy against Esau all of his days, and that both

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of them, they're claim to fame was they were both

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the mighty Hunter. So I said to myself, I was like,

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it's kind of like the Highlander man that can only

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be one baby.

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Speaker 4: You yeah, you you are, you are one hundred percent

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onto something too, Like I actually have the book and Jazz,

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we actually had my one of my co Hosts is

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working on it with me. The Book of josh Or,

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I haven't read it yet, but I tell you all, man,

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you were onto something right there, because I am extremely

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familiar with the Epic of Gilgamesh to the fact how

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inky Do was created by the gods, which it really

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wasn't it was? And so in the Samerian tablets, enigmaites

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the the Book of Enoch and the Epic of Gilgamesh.

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The Samarian tablets they read the same. One of them

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is like a sci fi novel. The other ones are

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talking about the angel. So in the Samerian tablets they

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said that, you know, the Aninaki gods, we would call

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them the fallen if you're a Christian, one of the

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fallen angels. Right, they created incy Do, dude, to calm

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you know, Gilga mash Down, I did not know. I

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did not know. I did not know about that he

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saw and Nimrod connection. But Nimrod, absolutely one was a menace, right,

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And and I think it was said that I think

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I read something the other day that was telling me

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that Nimrod again he was the great hunter, and that

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he also claimed to be two third Nepholm. I don't

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know if you had heard you r heard that before. Yeah,

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and supposedly, supposedly he had the clothes that God crafted

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for Adam when Adam, you know, walked out of the garden.

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Did you have you heard this done? The same thing

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this rabbit hole is with.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the main theme of my book.

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Speaker 4: Oh is it? So there you go? Mass Look hey man,

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you're right on your day. You're my time of weird bro.

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We just became friends. Yeah look so yeah, so yeah, please,

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I don't want to sell that thunder, but man, that

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is I gotta tell you, doc Man, good connection. Man,

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that's a good that's a good pool right there. I

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mean that is that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That is really really that's very solid. Man, that is

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really good. Yes, so please continue yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you know, like I said, it was kind of

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like this Highlander scenario, there going only be one. So

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these two mighty hunters were going to clash and see

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who the real mighty man was. And it says in

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this book of Jasher that Nimrod basically goes out with

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a hunting party and goes to hunt this Harry quote

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unquote man, this Harry beast of a man Esau and

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it says that he goes out with two of his

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gibble reem and in the Hebrew that is the same

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word used to describe the Nefphlum giants. Oh wow. And

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when you go into the Sumerian king's list how you

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were talking about, Gilgamesh was named as you know, two

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thirds god. His father was listed as Leelu, and Leelu

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was a vampire demon. So here you have, I mean,

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something like that sounds like it's straight out of a

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comic book. You have this two thirds god giant with

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you know, vamporistic father, edge with two other Gilbereim giants

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hunting this harry sasquatch man in the woods. But it

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says that Esau sees them coming and he hides himself

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and that when they're you know, unsuspecting, he springs out

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from the wilderness and cuts off Demrod's head with a sword,

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and that he and that he fights off, and that

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goes with the whole vampire thing, you know, cutting off

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the head, and that he fights these other two Gilbereim

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and kills them. So he kills not one, one, not two,

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but three giants single handedly in combat. And then the

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other hunting party that came along, but they were separated

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from them, heard the cries of the other men and

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come to run to see what was going on. But

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it says that during all this commotion that Esau takes

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the time to remove Nimrod's garments, and it says, and

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these garments were the reason that Nimrod was able to

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prevail and conquer all the nations. So you don't know

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at this moment, you know what's so special about these garments,

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but it gives it attributes his power to ruling over

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these nations to these garments, and Esau knew it, and

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he took them. And it says that Esau runs back

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to his tent and hides the garments, and then he

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goes into his brother Jacob's tent. There Jacob is preparing

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red stew So it dove tells perfectly into the book

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of Genesis, and it answers the question because Genesis just

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says that this mighty hunter comes in from the field exhausted. Yeah,

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he was exhausted, all right, he was. He just fought

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three giants to the death and just killed the king.

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He's on the run, probably sustained some life threatening injuries

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in this exchange. Probably bleeding out, you know, scared for

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his life, on the run from killing the king. He's desperate.

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So I think that this, you know, asking for the

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red stew is more kind of like allegorical, like you know,

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sew me up, sustain me, give me sustenance, and hide me.

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And it makes a lot more sense to his comment

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when Jacob says, you know, trade me the birthright. What

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uses a birth right to me when I'm dead? Take it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Sure. And when you read it, there's so much urgency

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in Jacob's voice because it ain't like he just says, ah,

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you should trade me the birth right. Okay, yeah, let's

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do it. No, when you read that, Jacob says, trade

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me the birthright. No, tell me you will do this thing. No, no, no,

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swear to me you will do this thing. So it's

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like you can hear the urgency. And so I mean,

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you can just picture this event going on, him probably

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holding his guts, bleeding out and scared to death, and

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you know, take it. What use is a birthright to

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me when I'm dead? Help me? Promise me, promise me,

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you know. So it was pretty cool finding that, And

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of course my next question is I'm discovering this, I'm like,

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what is up with these garments? Yeah, what's so special

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about these garments? And when you keep reading through Jashure,

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you discover that these are the super supernatural garments from

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the Garden of God that was given to Adam as

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a covering. And it traces it that this is the

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birthright and it was passed to the eldest son, kind

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of like the Order of Malkisa dec it was the

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sign and symbol of kingship and priesthood. And it follows

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it goes from Adam, you know, to Enoch Matthuselah to Noah,

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and it says that Noah had them on the boat

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and carried them through the flood, and that in Ham's

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going out, that Ham stole the garments and then give

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them to Cush, and that Cush hid them away. And

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it says that Nimrod was the child of his old

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age and whom he loved exceedingly, and that at the

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coming of age, when Nimrod turned twenty years old, he

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was given the garments, and that when he put on

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the garments he became a gibble rem. Yeah, and that

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answers the question everybody postulates in the Book of Genesis,

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because it doesn't say that he was a gibberriem. It

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says he became.

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Speaker 4: He became. So No, No, that that that that is?

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That is that that's very well stated right there and

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exactly right. I've had this conversation before about Nimrod, how

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he he h wasn't like that always and when he

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when he got when he became, that's when he became

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two thirds God is when he put on those clothes, right.

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And another fun fact that I don't know if you

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knew this or not, Doc, but the oldest word ever

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discovered for a vampire is actually Samerian vamperium, right, So

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I don't know if you can add that to your

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list as well, because I didn't. I didn't know about

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the the blood drinking basically nephelim the lineage that came

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down there as well. But No, that's that is that man?

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That that is So I'm in like it makes pretty

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sense to me, Like I'm wired that way though, But

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I can ask you too when you were talking about it,

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and I can see him coming back from battle fighting

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three johns. I mean, Nimrod was reported to be about

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I don't know if he was all always this big.

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Well when he put the clothes on, he became this big.

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But Nimrod was somewhere around fifteen feet tall, is what

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they were saying he was from what I was reading, right,

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and you know, correct me if I'm wrong. He was

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also building the Tower of Babel, which some people say

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he was, you know, a stargate or some type of

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tech ancient technology that he It wasn't just a tower

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that he was building, and that so that would mean

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that like Esau would had to have been you know,

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maybe not fifteen feet, but he definitely wasn't five feet tall.

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Like he must have been a pretty imposing figure himself

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at eight feet nine feet tall. And when you go

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into you know, sasquatching bigfoots, the ones in Alaska, there's

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actually a medical term for it. Creatures that live in

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colder environments get bigger over time. Right, So farther north

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you go, the bigger creatures get, especially in very cold

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places like Russia, the wolves and all that stuff. And

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the bigfoots of Alaska, you know, they're reported to be

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twelve to fifteen feet tall. And you get down around

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Washington State, you know there are always like ten get

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down around Appalachias, they're like eight nine feet tall. So

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and you get and you get down towards the skunk

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apes down towards Florida, they're always eight seven So you

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can just see there's a little progression in there, right,

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But uh no, I could see Esau saying, hey, look,

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I don't look I'm dying, like you know, help me,

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hide me, feed me. You know they're after me, right,

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swear it, swear it, swear it. Right, So yeah, I

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don't what does it matter if I if I'm dead. Right,

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that's a good That's a really good one, man. Now,

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good good they good good connected DUTs there, man, good

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job bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it was awesome just to find this stuff.

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I love digging through this stuff and connecting these dots.

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And so when I found that too, I had to

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go back to Genesis. And then I got to looking

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and I was like, you know, there is there any

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more backstory to these garments? And I stumbled across Lewis

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Ginsburg and he wrote like a seven book series called

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the Legends of the Jews, and he compiled all the

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ancient legends and lore of the Jewish people and compiled

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compiled them, you know, in a seven book series and

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it's amazing. I got the digital copy through logo software

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and uh so I got to looking through there and

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reading some stuff, and uh and I was I was

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going through just even the Bible, you know, you know, Lucifer,

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or not even Lucifer, because I mean that's a Latin,

469
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,079
you know translation. But the Nakash in Genesis, you know

470
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,720
that that Hebrew word can means serpent. That's how it's

471
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,079
translated into English. But for those that's not familiar with

472
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,759
Mike Haiser, you know, he done, you know, great work

473
00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:12,839
on breaking that word down. And just the Hebrew language

474
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,200
is just like the English language. You know, one word

475
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,319
can have multiple meanings, so you have to look at

476
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,000
the context of how that word's used to figure out,

477
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,200
you know, what is the best, you know word to

478
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:29,319
put in there. So when you read in the Garden,

479
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,640
you know about this nakash that deceived Adam and Eve

480
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,680
and caused the fall this word and the cost yet

481
00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:43,920
can mean serpent, but can also mean the shining one

482
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,680
or the one who practices divination. So what makes more

483
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:53,480
sense a talking snake caused the fall of Adam and

484
00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:58,359
Eve or a shining one, a one who practices divination,

485
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:03,000
a divine being, a member of God's divine counsel that

486
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,240
was there that rebelled and caused the fall that way.

487
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:10,759
That was something that Adam and Eve seen every day

488
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:14,319
in the garden, was familiar with, trusted to me, I mean,

489
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:16,960
that makes a lot more sense than a talking snake.

490
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,039
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, you're, you're, you're, You're totally got on. I'll

491
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:22,640
add I'll add a little extra layer there. I've had

492
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,920
several conversations, and I think now people may be starting

493
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,640
to come around a little bit more. I've often said

494
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,599
that one hundred percent it wasn't a snake. I even

495
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,279
I even went to the theory that it was a reptilian

496
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:39,960
like creature, like a draco or something like that, because

497
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,599
in the you read the Bible, Satans referred to as

498
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,400
the dragon, that old serpent or something like that. Right,

499
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:48,960
And then there was also something I read that he

500
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:51,480
took on the form of a dragon when he as

501
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:54,240
his final form when he fought Michael, when Michael captain

502
00:29:54,559 --> 00:30:00,000
him and Michael battled. And again, if you follow every

503
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,319
every single, every single ancient culture as a word for

504
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:09,480
a shape shifting reptilian creature, every single one of them,

505
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,319
from the African Zulu, to the Japanese, to the Hindus,

506
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,799
the Naga, even South America in Peru. In Peru, they

507
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:22,400
have a statue down there of a giant reptilian looking

508
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:24,160
god that they used to pray to back in the

509
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:26,960
day that looks like a basically kind of a t

510
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:32,920
rex head. Right, But when you read the Fall of

511
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:40,359
Adam and Eve, he's they call it the Temptation of Eve,

512
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:43,880
But really all he does is ask a question, did

513
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,440
God really say this that he said you can't do that?

514
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:49,519
Did he really say that Adam's not present when this happens, Right,

515
00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:54,400
Eve's alone with Well, you just said with something that

516
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,720
didn't scare her. Wasn't like the snake was just there

517
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:00,359
talking to her. There is no other mentions of any

518
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,160
other animals talking in the garden. There's no other creed

519
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,599
like she's talking to a dog or a rabbit. Like

520
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,200
it wasn't like an enchanted forest.

521
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:07,799
Speaker 2: Right.

522
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:11,279
Speaker 4: So so to me, I'm like you, I can't I

523
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,039
always on this channel. I have like a baseline mentality

524
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:18,039
what I approached to, Like, Okay, we know it was something, right,

525
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:21,599
we know that something happened, that something was there, But

526
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,720
it wasn't a talking bowl constrictor on a tree branch

527
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,200
like like that. That what was that movie Mowgli was

528
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:30,680
you know the general book? It wasn't that one hundred

529
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,759
percent wasn't that? And that bothers Christians. I don't know why, man.

530
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:37,279
And like I said, man, that bothers Christians when I

531
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:39,880
bring that up, that it could possibly be there. And

532
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,000
if you if if you even go and read more,

533
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:47,920
I mean, if you just analyze the text. When he

534
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:50,960
when he comes into the garden, Yeah, he looks at

535
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,960
Eve and asks, where's Adam? Right? Why are you hiding?

536
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,119
What's going on? What's he already knows? You know what

537
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:57,720
I'm saying. It's the same way like I say, you

538
00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:00,599
catch your kid drawn with a cran on the wall

539
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,039
in the bedroom, and you walk in there and said,

540
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:04,000
who did this? You already know who did it? Right,

541
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,240
She's the only one in the room of the crown.

542
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,480
But it was the punishment for the serpent. The serpent

543
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:12,519
didn't speak right, He doesn't. He doesn't really say anything,

544
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,359
doesn't do nothing. And he says, Okay, you're doomed to

545
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,279
crawl on your belly for the rest of your life,

546
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:20,279
and you'll be a I think what he says, a

547
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:21,920
sore in them, and there'll be a bruise on your

548
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,519
on your Oh, you'll be a saw on their heel

549
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:25,160
and a bruise on your head or something like that. Right,

550
00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:28,799
and then man, the Bible goes on to constantly reference

551
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:31,319
those on the earth and in it on the earth,

552
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:33,039
and in it on the earth, and in it will

553
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:37,440
bend the knee or whatever. So that is another good

554
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,839
reference right there too, because if you go down, if

555
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,119
you don't even have to go down that, if you

556
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:49,039
just subscribe to the theory that the watchers were on

557
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:51,400
the earth at that time. She was talking to somebody

558
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,680
that she knew or that something that didn't alarm her,

559
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,519
and it was just and it was just he just

560
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:57,599
put that seed in her ear and she ran with it. Right,

561
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,839
So yeah, that's a that's another great connection or what.

562
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,279
So in your opinion, what do you think it was?

563
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,359
Speaker 1: I think it was a member of God's divine council,

564
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,359
you know, because where it says, you know, in Genesis,

565
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,559
it says, let us make man in our image. That's

566
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,119
plural language. I don't think that was the Trinity. That's

567
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,160
how I was raised. But after I got to reading

568
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,440
and studying that stuff. I mean, they had a divine

569
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:27,119
council worldview, and the Greek stole it. When you think

570
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,759
of Zeus and the pantheon of gods, that's how the

571
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:36,200
ancient Jewish people seen yehueh. But he was the creator God,

572
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,000
and all these other gods were created, you know, little

573
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:45,720
g yeah, lower costs. Yeah. And they helped him like

574
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:49,000
a family or a king's court. And when you go

575
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,640
to the Book of Job, when he finally gets fed

576
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,519
up with Job's griping, and he says, you know, where

577
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:56,960
were you when I laid the foundations? Where were you

578
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,480
when I hung the stars and did this, and did that,

579
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:03,000
and laid the plumb line? And he said, and where

580
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,480
were you? He said, when the morning stars, the sons

581
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:13,440
of God, the Benaha Ilohem sing for joy at the

582
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,199
sight of creation. So that shows you they were there.

583
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,159
They witnessed creation. So that's to us an hour that

584
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,880
God's let us make man in our image, because the

585
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,360
Book of Job tells you they were there, and this

586
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,239
Nakash was one of them. And I think through my

587
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:41,079
studies that he was the first king or priest of

588
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:46,119
creation because when you go to Ezekiel twenty eight, and

589
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:50,679
all scholars agree that this is talking about, you know, Satan,

590
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,639
the Nakash. It's a condemnation to the king of Tire.

591
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,519
But halfway through it changes and it's clearly not talking

592
00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:01,119
to a human anymore. He says, you were in the

593
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:06,440
garden of Eden. It said you were perfect in the

594
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,320
day that you were created, until iniquity was found in you.

595
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:16,440
It said, every precious stone was your covering, sorryest topaz,

596
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:20,360
barrel onyx jasper. It lists all these stones. The Masoretic

597
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:27,039
texts lists nine, but the septuagen lists twelve, and it says,

598
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:29,599
you know, and there was gold inlays in your settings

599
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:33,239
and you know, and talks about how beautiful this garment is. Well,

600
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:39,360
this is a complete polaroid image of the priestly epod

601
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:44,719
of the priests. That this was the instructions that God

602
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,119
gave to Moses to make for the priests. And even

603
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:53,440
when you go down, yeah, and you go down. Even

604
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,679
in that same chapter there it says when it's talking

605
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:02,840
to Satan, it says, and you profaned your sanctuaries. So

606
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:08,719
it's painting Satan in a priestly role. Wearing a priestly garment,

607
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:13,960
and it says outright that he profaned his sanctuaries, so

608
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,599
he had a sanctuary, he had a priestly garment. So

609
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:23,000
I was theorizing in my head. I was like, what

610
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,320
if when he tried to deceive his you know, younger brother.

611
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,480
If you look at you know, Adam and Eve and

612
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:37,400
the heavenly beings as like the family of God, mankind

613
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:41,039
is the younger brother, the heavenly beings are the elder brother.

614
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,039
If you know, if the nakas tried to deceive the

615
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:52,440
younger sibling and in doing so it backfired and he

616
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:58,599
was demoted. Yes, and that God removed his priestly garments,

617
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:04,880
stripped him of his position and bestowed it upon mankind.

618
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,719
And that is the coverings that was given to Adam.

619
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,599
Speaker 4: Now that's that's that's that's that makes a lot of

620
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:14,119
sense to me too. I think also in the Book

621
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:17,519
of Job when God, when Satan prepears before God, God

622
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:18,280
said where have you been?

623
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: Now?

624
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,679
Speaker 4: I think he said walking.

625
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:21,519
Speaker 1: To and fro to and fro on the earth.

626
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it was his right, but I mean it's

627
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,639
not anymore. But no, that's great man, No, that's really good.

628
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: And the rabbis they all traced their their beginnings and

629
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,280
origins to Adam. They said he was the first king

630
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,800
and priest of all creation, and the first thing he

631
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,880
done when he left the garden he did a sacrifice

632
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:43,519
and everything else. And but when I found Lewis Ginsburg

633
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:47,719
the legends of the Jews, they say outright that the

634
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:55,960
coverings of Adam was the coverings of the Nakash. So

635
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,639
it come right out and said it, you know. So

636
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:02,840
I was like, well, there you go, and so that's

637
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,800
you have this, this is the birthright. So something that

638
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:11,400
was Satan's you know, pride symbol, something he wore with

639
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:17,480
pride and pomp, you know, his status symbol was taken

640
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:21,000
from him and given to his you know, quote unquote

641
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:25,119
younger brother, something beneath him that he was trying to

642
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:31,559
trick is now walking around with his position, his priestly garments.

643
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,480
That alone would make Satan hate you and explain the

644
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:37,880
motive hatred for mankind.

645
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,639
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely absolutely what that would That would that would

646
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:45,119
make perfect sense to you, right like like why like

647
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:49,559
does the never ending hatred cycle? Knowing that sooner, sooner

648
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:51,840
or later, you know that his you know, sooner or

649
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,920
later the ultimate follow it through it and well, actually

650
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,719
a good segue right in the Book of Revelations where

651
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,880
I want to take this conversation, but he has an

652
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,480
expiration date. He doesn't. And that's why I tell some

653
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:03,639
of the reasons why I tell one of the conversations

654
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:07,920
that I talked to people. It's about you know, I

655
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:13,599
I don't put any stock into timelines, none whatsoever, None whatsoever.

656
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:15,320
No one knows the day of the time, right.

657
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 3: And.

658
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 4: Jesus clearly said that except my father. No one knows

659
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,039
the day of the time, except for my father. And

660
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:27,400
I think it's for that's because Satan doesn't know it either.

661
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,320
That's the thing too that I think that it's one

662
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,920
of God's mysteries or one of his master strokes on

663
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,199
his plans. Was is that keeps Satan always you know,

664
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000
any second now could be my last or whatever. Right,

665
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:43,280
But it led me into this conversation I've been having

666
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,920
with people, and some people are starting to come around

667
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,639
to it. And I saw one of your short clips

668
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:53,519
as I was going through where I tell people that

669
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,519
the Book of Revelations is actually a two thousand plus

670
00:39:56,599 --> 00:40:01,519
year old, you know story. It's something that everybody's waiting

671
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:03,920
for it to start it Like, no, if you if

672
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,960
you read it and you go into it, and you

673
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:08,800
really go into it, you break it. You start breaking

674
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,239
it down, like it's almost from this from me looking

675
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,840
at it, it's like this way past half halfway completed, right,

676
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,039
And it's like so when you with the term revelation,

677
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:25,039
I use a term to reveal, right, it's a revealing

678
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,960
of scenarios to go through with it. And there's things

679
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:32,920
in the Book of Revelations that I read and people

680
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,119
are waiting for happen and I'm like, no, that's like

681
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,079
that's like already happened, Like that's that's already done, Like

682
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:40,840
that seal has already been opened and broken. And then

683
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,320
what we have, I'm gonna get your thoughts on this.

684
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,559
What we have is that human beings we try to

685
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:50,840
put like a a calendar on everything. When I try

686
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,039
to explain to them that the Bible says one day

687
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,719
in heaven is a thousand years on earth. So it's

688
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,679
like it's in the scriptures where I'll say that, right,

689
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,000
but there's a thing in there where it talks about

690
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:05,159
this is where this is where I want to make

691
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:08,320
sure on your video. It came to me and it's

692
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:14,079
something that I always found as unexplainable is when Satan

693
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:17,159
was cast down, it said it took a third of

694
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:19,679
the stars with him, right, And if you look up

695
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,599
into the sky at like I want to get this rate,

696
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:28,679
I can't remember the constellation name, Yeah, Hydra, the Hydra constellation.

697
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,400
So yeah, so so you can explain that to my

698
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,039
Do you subscribe to that too? Because that fits for me?

699
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:35,360
But you can you explain that for us?

700
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:35,599
Speaker 3: Doc?

701
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah. Revelation twelve, I'm a firm believer that

702
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:44,199
you know that was the birth of Jesus. Yes, And

703
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:49,519
because when you read that, it says plainly, it says, behold,

704
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:55,239
these signs were in heaven. It says a woman clothed

705
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,719
in the sun. That's Virgo.

706
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 4: Yes, that's it.

707
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,559
Speaker 1: There you have the sun in her womb. You know,

708
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:08,199
that's the su In and the son. It's pregnant with meaning.

709
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:13,639
And it says that she was crowned with twelve stars

710
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:18,280
on her head. That's the constellation Leo. Leo has twelve stars.

711
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,800
And then it says the moon under her feet, and

712
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,039
it says the dragon laying at her, laying underneath her

713
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:32,880
in wait to devour the child. That's the constellation Hydra,

714
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,039
and where the stars take the same path year after

715
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:41,440
year continually. It's like a clock. And with all the

716
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,880
software we got now, you can go in and rewind

717
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,159
those hands just like any clock, like a time machine.

718
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:52,960
And all of those things line up over the Middle East.

719
00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:57,320
And when you take the moon specifically and put it

720
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,039
under you can narrow that date down and time to

721
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:06,599
a two minute window. That's awesome, and it takes you

722
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:12,920
back to September the eleventh, three BC. That is the

723
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,679
birth of Christ and that is the star sign in

724
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:24,199
the heavens that the Magi seen yes and so yeah.

725
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,679
And it says that at this when this happens, it

726
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:28,679
says this is when the war breaks out in heaven.

727
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:33,480
So it's like, you know, I believe that when this happened,

728
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,440
this is when Satan and his entourage was like, Okay,

729
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:38,840
this is it, this is this is the plan, this

730
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,400
is it's going down. Now, we got to make our move,

731
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,360
and the war breaks out. And it says that that

732
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:49,039
the tail sweeps down a third of the angels. And

733
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:52,239
what's crazy is when you look at Hydra, its tail

734
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,119
takes up exactly one third of the night sky, and

735
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,800
where the tale is there is a significant lack of

736
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,159
stars compared to the rest of the sky.

737
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,599
Speaker 4: It's it's it's that's unrefutable, and it's not even hard

738
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:09,360
to find one. When you spoke on that, I went

739
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,840
out there and I was like, that is that? And

740
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,679
then yeah, also when you go in to not even

741
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,320
our Christianity, Christianity beliefs, you can go back on that

742
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,119
same time period and the Chinese said, will tell you

743
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,639
that they read the same things from the stars and

744
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:30,199
that you know the Savior was born or whatever was

745
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,239
born to come down there. They're talking about Jesus. I

746
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,400
didn't do that any justice because it's been a while

747
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,719
since I read that, but all the science pointed to it.

748
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,000
And also it makes perfect sense in my mind. I've

749
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:45,000
always known for a long time. I have some some

750
00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:49,679
you know, I I I have a personal belief when

751
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:52,039
I read the Book of Revelations that the Mystery Babylon

752
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,880
is the Catholic Church. It's it's there's nothing wrong with

753
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,320
people that are Catholics. I'm not going hard on anybody,

754
00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:00,320
but the Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon, right, And when

755
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,760
they changed his birthday to what it to the to

756
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,840
the twenty fifth, which is actually a covering up a

757
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,599
pagan holiday. I forget what it's called the winter.

758
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: Solstice something like that, Saturnalia.

759
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:18,039
Speaker 4: Saturnalia, right, and so that right there, if you, if you,

760
00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:20,280
if you peel back those layers and you start really

761
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,719
getting into it, Yeah, he was. He was born in September.

762
00:45:24,519 --> 00:45:26,719
For the longest time, I was like, I thought it

763
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,320
would be July, right, But then this new thing I'm

764
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:35,119
working on is that how the you know, our calendar

765
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:37,719
is supposed to be really thirteen months of twenty eight days,

766
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,559
with one day for the resurrection, which was April first,

767
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:43,360
which they call April Fool's Day if you believe in

768
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,559
the resurrection. That's just how my mind works. But when

769
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:47,639
you look at that stuff, what it is to go

770
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,519
through with it, I cannot understand why more people don't

771
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,840
see it. That's when it broke out. It broke out

772
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,199
two thousand and thirty years ago, is when it is.

773
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,239
When that started, right, It's not the people are waiting

774
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,159
for that first thing to happen. That's already happened. We're

775
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:09,039
way way into this. To this I can't give you

776
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:12,239
the exact sealed or horn on whatever went to wait.

777
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: That's why you see when that happened too, because it said,

778
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,880
you know, revelation. It says woe and to the inhabitants

779
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,280
of earth, because he knows his time is short. Because

780
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,960
if you look what happened right at the birth of Jesus,

781
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:28,079
Herod put out a decree to kill all the newborn

782
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:32,400
babies because why because Satan and those third of angels

783
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,000
that were knocked out of Heaven and cast down to

784
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:38,079
Earth started whispering into the ears of all the rulers,

785
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,320
there's a child born that's going to overthrow your kingdom.

786
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,079
You better kill it. And they started murdering all the babies.

787
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,679
But the Angel of the Lord warned marrying Joseph, and

788
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:53,000
they fled to Egypt and were saved. And the ascension

789
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,159
of Jesus Christ because when you read the scrolls, he

790
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,000
gets the scroll from the right hand of the Father,

791
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,320
because that's at the sense he says, behold, lamb that

792
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,599
was was slain. He comes in at the right hand

793
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,440
father and takes the scroll and starts opening the seals

794
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,440
that set the ascension. You know, we don't know, like

795
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,440
you said, what seal we're on. But John was seeing

796
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,199
Jesus come up from the mount of Olives, come into

797
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,119
the throne room of God and take the scroll and

798
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:21,960
start opening the seals right then.

799
00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:26,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's and again. I just I just

800
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,559
don't know how more people can't see it. I just don't.

801
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:33,400
I just don't. I don't understand it. I often question

802
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:36,280
him to have you I try to do this a

803
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,000
little bit better. I'm like, have you read it? Like,

804
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,199
like have you have you read? Have you read? Have

805
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,000
you read it? And then like tried to like overlay

806
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,079
it to what has actually happened. Jesus says, you know,

807
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:48,480
I think he was. I think I forget you what

808
00:47:48,519 --> 00:47:50,920
said it too? But I saw Jesus fall, like Jesus says,

809
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,320
I saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning, right, And

810
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,480
it makes sense the day he was born, you know

811
00:47:56,519 --> 00:47:58,960
what I'm saying. Down he saw him fall from heaven

812
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,320
like lightning, right, get cast out of heaven like light

813
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,159
and it comes straight down and it immediately, like you said,

814
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:09,079
it immediately kicks off, immediately starts right there with the

815
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:12,159
massacre of the children, the wise men going back a

816
00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:15,000
different route, not going back the way they came going

817
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:18,119
through it, them having to flee to Egypt and stay

818
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:21,039
there until they get pulled out. And then it just

819
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:23,119
goes on. And then it goes on, and it goes on,

820
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:26,480
and it gets into it. But that's the thing that

821
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,800
where I am at right now in the I tell

822
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,679
people that if you read the Book of Jubilees, it

823
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,400
talks about God telling everybody that we're supposed to be

824
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,360
on a solar calendar calendar and not a lunar calendar, right,

825
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,639
because it messes up the holidays and also makes up

826
00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:50,159
the holidays or whatever. But he also tells them that

827
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:54,960
we are on a divine schedule, right, and no matter

828
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,559
what happens or what we do or what goes on,

829
00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:01,920
this schedule must must be fulfilled and it must come

830
00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:05,880
to fruition to happen, right. And God through his mercy

831
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,320
can prolong an event or prolong or shorten an event,

832
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:15,719
but that event is going to eventually happen and so.

833
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,679
Speaker 1: And it all goes with his calendar. You know, God's Daytimer.

834
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,559
Anybody that that's into this kind of stuff, I highly

835
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:24,920
suggest you check out Mark Bilts. He wrote a book

836
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,000
called God's Daytimer and he talks about all the Jewish

837
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:33,039
feasts and holidays and how they're significant with prophecy, how

838
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:35,880
all the major events of the Bible correlate with these

839
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,480
feasts and holy days, and even the birth of Christ.

840
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:44,519
The September eleventh, that happened during the Feast of Tabernacles,

841
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:50,159
and that's significant because this is when the Moses and

842
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:53,599
the Hebrews celebrated when the spirit of God came down

843
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:59,440
and rested on the arc, and so God's spirit dwelt

844
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:05,000
amongst his people, and during this week the people would

845
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,519
dwell in tents, and this is when they would celebrate

846
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:13,599
the spirit of God dwelling amongst his people. So how

847
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:17,719
fitting that when God came in the flesh, he come

848
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:23,360
during the Feast of Tabernacles, but this time he physically dwell.

849
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny you brought that up to because the

850
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,679
day I was reading I was reading it, I think

851
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,920
the month is Ni Nima, Nemo, no Nissan.

852
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:34,039
Speaker 1: Nissan and Nissan.

853
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:38,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so Nissan eleven. It's not a part for

854
00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:41,719
a Honda, everybody, that's actually the that's actually the Hebrew

855
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,559
word for the month, Nissan the eleventh. How am I

856
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:45,880
saying that?

857
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:46,119
Speaker 1: Right?

858
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: Doc.

859
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 4: How do you say it? Yeah, Nissan Nassan, right, Nissan eleventh.

860
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:58,000
Throughout history, that date has been incredibly important. A lot

861
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:00,719
of things have happened on that date over and over

862
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,559
and over and over again. To go down to it

863
00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:04,159
and I even, you know, I don't want to be

864
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,840
that guy, but like nine to eleven happened on Nissan

865
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,840
eleventh as well, and to look back through history to

866
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,119
do it. But yeah, that's where that's where I get

867
00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:17,639
into trouble with especially you know how we grew up.

868
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,519
You know where we grew up, right, so you can

869
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,920
you can imagine what I just said doesn't go well.

870
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: Just saying that there's more than one God, talking about

871
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,800
a divine council and stuff that we're from your you're

872
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,119
a hairtic going to hell?

873
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, so yeah, so so the conversations I have

874
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,440
with with with certain people, I have to slowly walk

875
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,280
them into it. But one of the things that I'm

876
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,119
not that I'm I just I just for the life

877
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:44,599
of me, can't get anybody to I mean, other than you,

878
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:47,599
You're the only other. You're the second person I've heard

879
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,840
who thinks the way I think that The Book of

880
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:57,000
Revelations started two thousand and thirty twenty five years ago

881
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,199
when Jesus was born, or however farther than the day right,

882
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:08,159
And so it's clearly to me, like I said, man,

883
00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:12,119
it is. It is so obvious to me when you

884
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:14,280
start reading it and you start going through it, and

885
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,199
if you just would shift your mind right. And I

886
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,320
try to tell people that biblical prophecy lays over history

887
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,519
as well, like so if you just take if you

888
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:27,320
read the Book of Revelations and then just take take

889
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,679
their religious site out of it and just put down

890
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:34,800
historical events, and you will be you'll be shocked at

891
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,800
how these things line up and how they keep moving along.

892
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,400
But you would you would think I'd ask them to

893
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,360
pull their black molars out with a pair of plyers.

894
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:44,519
Speaker 1: Man.

895
00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 4: I mean, like they just just not having it, not

896
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,880
doing it. It was a snake, clearly says it was

897
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,280
a snake. Clearly says it was this can't do it.

898
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: So anyway, Revelation is tricky too, I mean the Bible,

899
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,480
even in general, but especially revelation. You know kind of

900
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,199
view it is like it's a it's a ki. Yeah,

901
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,880
it just rotates right back into itself over and over again,

902
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,159
and I believe prophecy even though it's been fulfilled, and

903
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:11,320
we can see it's been fulfilled, it kind of like

904
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,960
it repeats and cycles, Yeah, keeps coming back.

905
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 4: I thought this, I thought. I thought. I thought the

906
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,039
same way too. On how how I called you ever

907
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:22,639
seen the I know you have you ever seen the

908
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,480
symbolism of the snake eating its tail?

909
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:25,639
Speaker 3: Oh?

910
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ora boris.

911
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 4: So that's when I when I when I when I'm

912
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,400
reading this these biblical prophecies, I'm reading that and I'm like, yo, man,

913
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,559
like that's just the thought that I get in my head.

914
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:38,800
And I actually live about thirty minutes west of d C,

915
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,440
and I was I went to d C for the

916
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:44,960
UFO u AP hearings and I was in there and

917
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,920
one of the admirals was talking about like I just

918
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,280
did a post about this yesterday. I met Tim Burchett,

919
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,679
when the congressman from Tennessee, and he's he's really big

920
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,960
into like getting this going. But he said that you

921
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,559
know that they live in the oceans, And that was

922
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:03,679
on camera. Off camera, he said that there was a

923
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,679
seven different types of what he called you know, aliens

924
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,519
or ET's ubi s or whatever living in the ocean.

925
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:15,440
And then when you read the Book of Revelations, all

926
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,000
the beasts come out of the ocean, right, they all do, right,

927
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,519
And that just burned into my psyche man when they

928
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:24,800
were up there talking. And again, if you if you

929
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,400
read the Bible and you read, you know, the Book

930
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,440
of Enoch, and then you just go and study and

931
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:32,639
read the Samaran tablets they're telling. And now now I'm

932
00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:35,039
gonna I'm gonna take what you ran with Esau and

933
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:39,239
Nimrod yogamesh inky do you lay those on top of

934
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,800
each other? They're saying the same thing. They're saying the

935
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,239
exact same stuff. One saying they're aliens, the other one's

936
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,559
saying they're fallen angels. That's where you get the big,

937
00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:49,960
the big argument coming back and forth. It's a pretty

938
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,199
big argument in the UFO community about their benevolent or

939
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,039
there you know, here to hurt us they're evil And

940
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:02,119
the same thing when you go into the Bigfoot community.

941
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:05,920
When you get in there, people will say they're, you know,

942
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:11,440
Giganticus Pithecosauricus right there, there's some extinct you know, and

943
00:55:11,519 --> 00:55:14,760
to me that this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, right,

944
00:55:15,199 --> 00:55:16,679
And then you get the other ones who say no,

945
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,800
they're they're divine beings. They have capabilities, you know, they

946
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,199
can you know, disappear, they can do whatever they want

947
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,320
to do. There's a lot of arb activity associated with

948
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,679
them sometimes when you go into it. But if you

949
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,559
just if you just take both of them and overlap

950
00:55:32,599 --> 00:55:34,360
them and then go back and read any version of

951
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,159
history that you want. The Bible is one of the

952
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:40,360
greatest tellings of history, you know, ever, major events, and it's.

953
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: Still it's it's just verbage, you know. I mean, it's

954
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,519
the same core. Everybody get caught up on verbage. But

955
00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:48,760
that's one of the major kickbacks I get is with

956
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,239
a lot of people in the Bigfoot community when I

957
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,320
talk about you know, my my hypothesis in the book,

958
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:59,280
is there like, oh, well, what about the the wo

959
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,199
You know, it can't be a human because you know,

960
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,199
you have the orbs ufo, the mind speak, the phasing

961
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:13,559
in and out of reality. And I tell them, I'm like, well,

962
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:18,199
when I followed this trail, you know, the legends of

963
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:24,280
the Jews, they point to Esau being of a serpent seed.

964
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,920
They say that Esau was even born with a serpent's mark,

965
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,760
and that his guardian angel his angel was Semi l

966
00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:41,679
and that's the name of Satan before the fall, according

967
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,800
to the Jews, and even in an our book, our

968
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,440
sixty six book, Cannon, the Birth of Esau is a

969
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,360
polaroid picture of the curse and the Garden of Eden,

970
00:56:57,159 --> 00:56:59,559
because what did it say, you know, you mentioned it earlier,

971
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:02,559
you know, with the curse, it says, I will put

972
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:09,159
enmity between her seed and thy seed, the woman's seed

973
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,679
and the serpent's seed. And what did he say? He

974
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,519
said one would bruise one's head and the other would

975
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:22,400
bruise the other's heel. So it's like Satan reached in

976
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,079
the womb and kind of perverted and tried to flip

977
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:30,960
the script almost because Esau comes out first with his

978
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:35,440
foot literally pushing on Jacob's head, bruising it to exit

979
00:57:35,519 --> 00:57:41,039
the womb, and Jacob clutching and bruising the heel. Yeah,

980
00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:44,840
and then you have these garments into play, right, So

981
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,039
it's like, if you know, these garments were taken from

982
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:56,119
the nakash and given to mankind, and the first born

983
00:57:56,719 --> 00:58:02,239
is the one that gets the birth right. If, according

984
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,559
to the legends of the Jews, if Esau was a serpent, seed.

985
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,519
Of course he'd want his he'd want to manipulate and

986
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:13,480
twist the wound where his seed come out first, and

987
00:58:13,519 --> 00:58:16,920
got the birth right. That way, the garments, his garments

988
00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:23,159
was back into the family fold. Yeah, and then when

989
00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:27,079
you get to the lineages. Now this is what's really interesting.

990
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:30,079
And I give credit where credit is due. This wasn't me,

991
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:34,480
This was me just gathering pieces. But Gary Wayne in

992
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:38,519
his book The Genesis sixth Conspiracy, he did such a

993
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:44,960
good job with the genealogies. Man. But when Esau marries,

994
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:53,119
he takes three wives, okay, and two of them are Canaanites. Well,

995
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,280
not only are that canaanitess, thanks to Gary and his

996
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,159
deep dive, they were Whorides and he Etes, they were

997
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:06,840
known giant clans. And the one father in law that

998
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,159
was mentioned it said that he was from Mount Sier

999
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,960
and that he was a chieftain. Well, when you break

1000
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:20,159
down the etymology of that word Sierra, that means Harry. Right,

1001
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:26,400
So you have this Harry quote unquote sasquatch man marrying

1002
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:32,679
into this Nephelum giant clan that is known to be

1003
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:38,800
Harry and breeding with it. So you can imagine the

1004
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,400
kind of you know, strange pups that would be thrown

1005
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:47,599
from this union. And here's where you have the birth

1006
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:55,079
of a Malik who bursts the Amalekite race, which once again,

1007
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:59,599
when you break into the etymology, that name means blood

1008
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:09,239
liquor in Hebrew. And these were like the berserkers of

1009
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:16,000
the Levant. They were known to be just ruthless warriors

1010
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:21,400
and dominated the battlefield. And when God's people left Egypt,

1011
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:28,320
the Amalekites were the ones that first attacked them. And

1012
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,960
it says that basically they were like ghosts that they

1013
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,000
picked them off one at a time and picked off

1014
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:38,159
the women, the children, and the elderly, the ones in

1015
01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:42,480
the back, and retreated back into the wilderness before they

1016
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,280
even knew what happened. And they tormented them for months

1017
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,000
like that before they finally even had their battle. And

1018
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,199
the writings of Rashi, he was a medieval rabbi, he

1019
01:00:54,239 --> 01:00:59,079
said that the Amalekites were known sorcerers and that's why

1020
01:00:59,199 --> 01:01:04,119
God said every man, woman, child, and animal, because they

1021
01:01:04,159 --> 01:01:07,400
were known shape shifters. They would shape shift into animals

1022
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:13,239
to evade capture. And they're you know, in their wilderness

1023
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,199
wanderings is where you get all of your commandments, you know,

1024
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,440
do not do this, do not do that. So I

1025
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:21,840
mean I said it in the book. I said, you

1026
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:26,920
don't get rules, laws, regulations if these rules, laws and

1027
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,760
regulations ain't being broken already. Yea. So it's what does

1028
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,880
it say if we take a look at those it says,

1029
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:40,559
no longer will you sacrifice to Harry goat demons, Yeah,

1030
01:01:40,719 --> 01:01:44,400
it says. And in concerning those goat demons in Isaiah,

1031
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,960
what does it say. It says that these in the

1032
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:53,360
septuagen it says the Satyrs will dance in desolate cities.

1033
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,960
I think they're talking about these Amalekites. I think they're

1034
01:01:57,519 --> 01:02:01,480
getting universe site from Esau and the these giant clans.

1035
01:02:01,639 --> 01:02:03,199
Speaker 4: No, I think you're right too. And if you go

1036
01:02:03,239 --> 01:02:04,559
and look at the God, if you go and look

1037
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:07,280
at the Baphomet, that's where you know what they're talking

1038
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,039
about there as well. And then when you you go

1039
01:02:09,079 --> 01:02:16,719
and read the specific instructions on Jericho, Nope, it killed

1040
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,239
the dogs, It used to kill all the animals. Kill.

1041
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,920
Don't take anything, don't take anything out of the city,

1042
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,960
don't do any of that stuff, right, don't do nothing.

1043
01:02:25,239 --> 01:02:28,199
And I can't remember the tribe that was in there.

1044
01:02:28,519 --> 01:02:30,599
But I've always knew that it was some type of

1045
01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:34,000
Nephilim offspring that was in that giant city of Jericho,

1046
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:36,039
because talks about how great their walls were, right, like

1047
01:02:36,039 --> 01:02:38,280
how their walls could not come come come tumbling down,

1048
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,519
right and to go and and said, no, that's great man,

1049
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:43,239
that's yeah, man, that's that's a that's a that's a

1050
01:02:43,239 --> 01:02:46,000
good genealogy. Pull right there, man. So yeah, and it

1051
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:46,719
just goes to show you.

1052
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, and in there, but it said too, they said,

1053
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,639
don't drink the blood, do not seek necromancers or sorcerers,

1054
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,559
do not pass your children through the fires of Molak.

1055
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,159
I think they were giving them all these because these

1056
01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:05,599
were the practices of these Amalekites, and God's people were

1057
01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:09,000
starting to imitate them. So God laid down the red line,

1058
01:03:09,079 --> 01:03:11,719
said no, you can't be doing this. And when they

1059
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,159
finally end up having their battle, this is that famous

1060
01:03:15,199 --> 01:03:20,920
story where Moses has to hold his rod, his supernatural rod,

1061
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:25,480
over his head on that mountain to defeat the Amalekites.

1062
01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:27,519
And it says that when he grows tired and he

1063
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:31,880
lowers his staff, that the Amalekites started winning and only

1064
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,400
when Joshua and Caleb would raise his arms for him

1065
01:03:36,519 --> 01:03:39,679
that they were able to overcome them. So there's this

1066
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,920
whole supernatural war going on behind the scenes that we're

1067
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,280
not reading in the Bible. I think that Moses is

1068
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:51,639
up there battling against the Amalekite sorcerer on the other

1069
01:03:51,679 --> 01:03:52,480
side of the valley.

1070
01:03:52,519 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, Yeah, for sure. They take they they took.

1071
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,440
I mean, I've been saying this for a while before

1072
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,280
I let you go. We're coming up on our time here, man,

1073
01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:03,920
you got to come back on the show man. There's

1074
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,639
so many other questions we need to talk about. But

1075
01:04:08,239 --> 01:04:14,679
they they take all the mysticism and the supernatural out

1076
01:04:14,679 --> 01:04:17,360
of out of the Bible. They take it all out right.

1077
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:21,480
And and I have my own personal beliefs on why

1078
01:04:21,559 --> 01:04:26,000
they did that and and why they don't even really

1079
01:04:26,039 --> 01:04:29,159
in a lot of churches don't really even teach it

1080
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:32,039
anymore to go through with it. But what you said

1081
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:37,960
is one hundred percent probably exactly what was going on.

1082
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,079
Why would why would they have why would he have

1083
01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:42,920
to hold his arms up for them to win? He

1084
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:45,239
was it was for a reason. It wasn't for God

1085
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,440
saying doing it for fundsies. Right, hey man, you know

1086
01:04:47,639 --> 01:04:50,199
how you hold this to your shoulders burned. There was

1087
01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:53,119
a reason for it, right, and they take it out.

1088
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: Man.

1089
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,159
Speaker 4: But like again when you when you go and look

1090
01:04:55,159 --> 01:04:58,960
at the and people also say that, oh, look they

1091
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,559
were committing genescie. Well they're in the impression they're just

1092
01:05:03,559 --> 01:05:06,920
fighting other humans. They weren't fighting other humans. They were

1093
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,519
fighting the things that were extremely evil and extremely dangerous,

1094
01:05:11,199 --> 01:05:13,480
and they were following the commands to you know, finish

1095
01:05:13,519 --> 01:05:15,800
what the flood didn't get man, that was to wipe out,

1096
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,400
you know, the last of the nepheline bloodlines of the

1097
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,920
serpent seeds. As you were talking about this as well.

1098
01:05:22,719 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: And I think that answers the woo though. That's why

1099
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,920
I was getting at because people say, oh, it can't

1100
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,639
be a human because of the UFO, the orbs and

1101
01:05:29,679 --> 01:05:32,519
the phasing inning out of reality. According to the Book

1102
01:05:32,519 --> 01:05:36,239
of Enoch, these nephilim, you know, their spirits are left

1103
01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:39,599
to wander as demons and torment mankind. So it's like

1104
01:05:40,239 --> 01:05:44,480
if these Harry quote unquote sasquatch looking men that died

1105
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:51,480
in antiquity, their spirits are left here, So wouldn't they

1106
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:56,000
want to choose a familiar form. Yeah, and at the

1107
01:05:56,039 --> 01:06:00,760
same time they're filling angel uncles. If they're traveling around

1108
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,719
in ufo, you know, spacecraft is that's if that's their

1109
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,840
way of conveyance or these orbs. Of course they're going

1110
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,320
to be associated with them in close by and checking

1111
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,320
on their you know, their their dead offspring and their

1112
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,480
relatives and things like that. All that stuff's going to

1113
01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:20,440
be correlated because they were they're dead Nephlom spirits of

1114
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:23,320
these hybrid races that were known sorcerers.

1115
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:29,159
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean it's and that's I'm sure that's

1116
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,840
well received in that Bigfoot community. I get a lot

1117
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,519
of heat when I talked to my Bigfoot guys in

1118
01:06:33,519 --> 01:06:38,199
there or whatever. I'm like, if it was a leftover dinosaur,

1119
01:06:38,239 --> 01:06:40,880
we would have already found them. These things are obviously

1120
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,719
not what we think they are. And you know, getting

1121
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,920
caught up on the woof and I did. I've did

1122
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,559
some stories about the surf and long stories or whatever.

1123
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,519
We grew up in the Appalachian Mountains. We've seen all

1124
01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:54,480
types of weird stuff I've heard. I've heard of these

1125
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,440
things literally rising up out of the ground, like coming

1126
01:06:57,519 --> 01:06:59,199
up out of the earth. Rising up out of the

1127
01:06:59,239 --> 01:06:59,679
earth right.

1128
01:06:59,679 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: Looking Harley's pictures and stuff. Man, they're wow yeah man,

1129
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,159
so yeah, so and and and again.

1130
01:07:05,239 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 4: That's that's the thing. You lay out a whole spread

1131
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,840
and this is this is, this is so, this is

1132
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:16,880
my one thing about like other researchers, everything you just

1133
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,679
laid out, Doc, and they focus on the WU. That's

1134
01:07:21,719 --> 01:07:23,679
like what, Like what do you talk about? Like you

1135
01:07:24,199 --> 01:07:25,880
did you hear anything we talked about?

1136
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:26,039
Speaker 1: Right?

1137
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:28,559
Speaker 4: And you focus on that WU. I don't know, maybe

1138
01:07:28,599 --> 01:07:30,800
he thinks it's fun to go and get you to

1139
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,039
look around in the woods like maybe you know, maybe

1140
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:35,239
he was Why why do they throw rocks at you sometimes?

1141
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: Right?

1142
01:07:35,519 --> 01:07:38,599
Speaker 4: Like maybe they just think it's fun to do. But yeah, man,

1143
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:40,199
that's the thing that I get with when I talk

1144
01:07:40,199 --> 01:07:42,440
to people. I just laid out all this stuff for you,

1145
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,440
and your gotcha with me is like, oh what about

1146
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,400
that WU? Like okay, yeah, yeah, sure, what about that WU?

1147
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,440
Did you not hear nothing we said about Esau or whatever?

1148
01:07:52,519 --> 01:07:53,239
Speaker 1: What about it?

1149
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:59,239
Speaker 4: Yeah? What about the WU? Who cares? R Anyway? Doc,

1150
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,840
great conversation, man, Please you gotta agree to come back, man, right.

1151
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: Because I got oh Man, I love to come back yeah,

1152
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,679
but you have. There's the cover, guys, you get on Amazon,

1153
01:08:09,079 --> 01:08:10,920
look for that big Harry Yoked guy.

1154
01:08:11,239 --> 01:08:14,559
Speaker 4: Yep, exactly, it's going to be. It'll be back there

1155
01:08:14,679 --> 01:08:16,720
on my collection when it comes in. After I read it,

1156
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,439
it'll go up on the Wall of Fame. Back there

1157
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,399
to do with it, Doc Brown, Everybody go get his book.

1158
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:24,680
The link will be down there. It's called the Epic

1159
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:29,560
of Esau. It's a great from conversation we just had.

1160
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,039
I'm very intrigued to read it and everything like that. Doc,

1161
01:08:32,079 --> 01:08:34,119
one more time, tell everybody where they can find you,

1162
01:08:34,199 --> 01:08:35,399
and we'll walk us side of here.

1163
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, I appreciate you having appreciate the conversation. Love

1164
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,920
to come back and take deeper dives, because you know,

1165
01:08:42,199 --> 01:08:46,439
this book is two hundred and seventy pages, it's fifteen chapters,

1166
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so we yet we didn't even scratch the service.

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Speaker 4: So doctor, we'll do.

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Speaker 3: Doc.

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Speaker 4: Let me get it, let me read it, and then

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come back and let's break it down. Man.

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Speaker 1: Sound good, Yes, sounds good. But yeah, guys, anywhere you

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consume content, just search me up Prometheus, Lin's podcast, YouTube, Spotify, Apple,

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all those fine establishments, Instagram, Facebook, x anywhere you can

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consume social media or podcast content. And the website is

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Prometheuslin's podcast dot com. And the book is on Amazon.

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I do have it in ebook form for ten bucks

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or physical copy for twenty There you go.

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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, cheaper in the price of eggs. Right

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now you can get you a book, and you can

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get smart up. And you know how we do around here, nerds,

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thumbs up, Subscribe, Share. All the doc's information will be

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in the description. Go give them some follows, Go give

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them some love. Go order that book. You got any questions,

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leave it in the comments. He'll answer it. We'll get

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back to it. But don't ask me nothing stupid like

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what about the wou Like I'll put that on a

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T shirt and melt to your house. So yep, and

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you know how we do around here, nerds. That's all

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you get for a dollar

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Speaker 1: Five