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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, this is Less Drive.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I know aka Survivor Man, and you're listening
Speaker 1: to Brian on Sasquatch Audis. Hey there, welcome back to sasquatchs.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for clicking play. It is Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great week. We have an
Speaker 1: amazing guest lined up for you. But as always, want
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Speaker 1: I got to sit down several months ago. I think
Speaker 1: I actually did this particular interview back in February of
Speaker 1: this year. But I talked to Meg in California, and
Speaker 1: Meg had quite a few interesting experiences with what she
Speaker 1: believes to be sasquatch out there on her property, and
Speaker 1: she's here to share that with you today. She did
Speaker 1: send me quite a few photographs that she mentions during
Speaker 1: this interview, so if you want to see those, photographs.
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Speaker 1: and I are talking about daring this interview. As you're
Speaker 1: hearing this, I am on my way to an undisclosed
Speaker 1: location with undisclosed individuals doing undisclosed things, filming for the
Speaker 1: new documentary film that I am a part of. So
Speaker 1: I will be out most of this week, but fear not,
Speaker 1: the episodes are coming as planned. This one will drop
Speaker 1: today on Wednesday. You will get a brand new episode
Speaker 1: on Friday where I got to sit down and talk
Speaker 1: to Jason Kinzie, who is an experiencer and a filmmaker
Speaker 1: who's done about thirteen documentary films on Bigfoot. Very cool guy,
Speaker 1: very cool conversation. I think you guys are really going
Speaker 1: to enjoy that. And then on Sunday, I'm doing something
Speaker 1: a little bit special. I found some audio from a TBRC,
Speaker 1: the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy, from back in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: They just finished up their conference out there in Texas
Speaker 1: and there's a Bigfoot round table here that I got
Speaker 1: the audio from with Jeff Meldrum, a ton of the
Speaker 1: guys from the North American Wood Ape Conservancy. It's a
Speaker 1: really cool conversation. I think you guys are really going
Speaker 1: to enjoy that. But enough of that, I know you
Speaker 1: guys are ready to get into it. Meg's on the line,
Speaker 1: She's ready to go. All this left for you to
Speaker 1: do is sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I
Speaker 1: want to welcome our guest to the show. It is
Speaker 1: Meg California. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Meg.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm so glad to have you here. So let's
Speaker 1: get right into it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing.
Speaker 1: What guy you interested in the subject to begin with?
Speaker 3: So it's always been there, but what happened for me
Speaker 3: is going back. I ended up in recovery, but that
Speaker 3: was quite a while back, thirty three years ago, and
Speaker 3: started on this spirituality path. It's evolved throughout the years,
Speaker 3: but taking off within the last two years since I
Speaker 3: moved from Monterey County up here. First to Tuolomy County
Speaker 3: was to take care of my brother while he was
Speaker 3: going through his process. He contracted cancer about six years ago,
Speaker 3: so I ended up leaving my job down in Montey.
Speaker 3: That was a resource director an alcohol facility down there
Speaker 3: for twenty nine years that I walked off the job
Speaker 3: during COVID came up here to take care of my brother.
Speaker 3: The signing started happening at my brother's house in a Sonora,
Speaker 3: Oh property, I should say there and a TRAI learn
Speaker 3: he had a little cabin off the back. I started
Speaker 3: to notice things showing up on the property. Twice. I've
Speaker 3: had feathers put at high level inside a post where
Speaker 3: a gateway where I had to walk through to keep
Speaker 3: the sheep being to the property. There's a feather's sticky
Speaker 3: right eye level. It was just weird stuff, you know.
Speaker 3: I met somebody up here, moved in with him. His
Speaker 3: name's Steve. The property up here, which it's about forty
Speaker 3: five miles up the hill from Sonora. It's a place
Speaker 3: called Pine Grove and it's spide acres were on so
Speaker 3: even when Sean was alive, we'd be watching expedition picks
Speaker 3: for it. I bought a flash of beauty. I showed
Speaker 3: that to him before he passed. Slowly getting into it.
Speaker 3: Signs started to come to me, and then I stayed
Speaker 3: open tonight. I spend a lot of time outdoors a
Speaker 3: backpack when I was down in Monterey County. Now looking
Speaker 3: back at some of the incidences that had happened, well,
Speaker 3: it's backpacking. I think those were also signs that something
Speaker 3: out there was trying to communicate with me.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about some of the things that happened
Speaker 1: while you were backpacking before we get into some of
Speaker 1: the more recent stuff. Talk about some of those incidents
Speaker 1: that you look back now in retrospect and think they
Speaker 1: might have been Sasquatch related.
Speaker 3: Okay, Monterey County has the Antenna Wilderness, which of course
Speaker 3: Big serves on one side, and then on the opposite
Speaker 3: side is King City Hunter Leggett in particular. To get
Speaker 3: into the back country, we'd go in through there through
Speaker 3: Hunter legg specifically China Camp. We'd leave out a China
Speaker 3: Camp by Tasahara Hot Springs back and there. I think
Speaker 3: it's twenty one miles to the coast. If you start
Speaker 3: inside and work your way to the coast, it's twenty
Speaker 3: one miles because we do it in three days. The
Speaker 3: incident that I'm thinking of in particular was me and
Speaker 3: a friend of mine, Peter, were out on the Big
Speaker 3: sur side. We had gone on the old Coast Road
Speaker 3: to get to Pico Blanco, which is the boy Scout Camp.
Speaker 3: Beautiful spot. There's a waterfall, a turquoise pool back there.
Speaker 3: Big Surrey is cool. Just some beautiful country. Getting into
Speaker 3: the boy Scout Camp or pass Boy Scout Camp to
Speaker 3: Blanco Camp. There's a halfway point before you cross the
Speaker 3: sur River Little Surrey. Believe we camped right on the
Speaker 3: edge of the river. We'd lay down to go to sleep.
Speaker 3: Peter and I are looking up this redwood tree and
Speaker 3: at the very top of the redwood tree is an
Speaker 3: orange street cone. This isn't a path that people are
Speaker 3: normally on. The Pine Ridge Trail is the more accessible trail.
Speaker 3: The way we went there just aren't that many people
Speaker 3: out there. Plus redwoods are like huge, It's what the
Speaker 3: hell is that road cone doing on the top of
Speaker 3: this redwood tree. And you could only see in the
Speaker 3: bottom of it, but then you could see that it
Speaker 3: was You could see the orange too, so it was
Speaker 3: like that is weird. So that was like, now, thinking
Speaker 3: back on it, I'm thinking, wow, maybe that was something
Speaker 3: else entirely then, of course I didn't know what it
Speaker 3: was at that time. Another incident that happened. It was
Speaker 3: around this time. It was on my birthday, my birthdays tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I want to say it was about close to ten
Speaker 3: years ago. I was on the inside and I decided
Speaker 3: to hike. When you borroughsah Watching is the highest peak
Speaker 3: within Moderate County in the Vantana Wilderness. It's six and
Speaker 3: a half up six and a half back down during
Speaker 3: that time, and that's out of Memorial Camp in the
Speaker 3: back of Hunter Leggett Army Base. As I started out,
Speaker 3: I wanted to say it was a couple miles in now.
Speaker 3: I heard something, but in my mind I thought I
Speaker 3: was having like a psychic experience, like I was hearing
Speaker 3: something out of the past. For me, it seemed more
Speaker 3: of American like a drum, a hand drum sound. Again,
Speaker 3: thinking back on it, what it sounded like was a
Speaker 3: car door right, a car door closing. I had stopped
Speaker 3: and surveyed my environment, didn't see anything, just kept walking
Speaker 3: and it happened two more times before I reached the
Speaker 3: peak that day. There was a man that followed. We
Speaker 3: were on the same path. Of course, there's only one path,
Speaker 3: one trail up the mountain. I asked him. Once he
Speaker 3: got to the top, there's a fire tower once I
Speaker 3: hiked up to the top of the fire tower, I
Speaker 3: was able to get signal, texted my friend Peter actually
Speaker 3: and took some pictures and told him I made it
Speaker 3: to the top of the peak. Even though I was
Speaker 3: by myself. I carry a GPS with me, I have
Speaker 3: a beacon in case something happens. But now that I
Speaker 3: think back on it, hearing other people talk about experiences
Speaker 3: car door slamming, isn't that uncommon? And a couple other
Speaker 3: experiences which I think I was hit with the infrasone
Speaker 3: And for me, again, this is my own experience. When
Speaker 3: this situation happens, I feel it in my vision where
Speaker 3: I can't see and I can't focus. So there were
Speaker 3: two times down in Monterey County where I was hiking.
Speaker 3: One was a forest road on the top by Old
Speaker 3: Coast Road outside of a bigxer. It doesn't stop me
Speaker 3: from continuing to walk, but I can't focus on anything.
Speaker 3: It's just like a blur, like something sitting right in
Speaker 3: front of my vision. Now, at the time, I always
Speaker 3: thought that was spirit coming to me, like somebody that's
Speaker 3: crossed over or spirit that's there that is showing its
Speaker 3: presence to me. But again looking at I think it
Speaker 3: was the sound I was close to a creature. Again.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to call it, an entity or whatever,
Speaker 3: but a phenomenon that's going on around me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting mentioned the metallic car door sounds, because,
Speaker 1: as you said, when you get into this and you
Speaker 1: talk to a lot of different people, it's not I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's a common thing that happens, but it's
Speaker 1: not uncommon that people hear these weird metallic sounds in
Speaker 1: places that they should. Ron Moorehead, for example, has talked
Speaker 1: about that up at the Sierra camp. They heard what
Speaker 1: he said, sounded like car doors closing, and they're eight
Speaker 1: miles deep in the woods. It just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: So I think it's really interesting. I don't know what
Speaker 1: would cause that. If these things are flesh and blood,
Speaker 1: I don't know how they would be making that noise
Speaker 1: or why they would be making that noise. Maybe more importantly,
Speaker 1: but certainly if there's something else to them, if you're
Speaker 1: going to go down that road, then there's probably a
Speaker 1: whole myriad of reasons and or explanations for why they
Speaker 1: would make that sound. Have you thought about that at all,
Speaker 1: like why the metallic sound and why it sounded like
Speaker 1: a car door.
Speaker 3: It's not so much metallic as it's like the air
Speaker 3: pressure when you close the door. I haven't ever heard
Speaker 3: the metal. Nothing metal or metallic, but it's like just
Speaker 3: the closing of a car door. That's what it was.
Speaker 3: I got. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: All right, let's fast forward. Let's get to where you
Speaker 1: are now and some of the other things that are
Speaker 1: happening around where the area that you're at.
Speaker 3: Sure I ain't put out a jar peanut butter just
Speaker 3: out the front windows. It's sat there for I don't know,
Speaker 3: eight months or something on a stump, and that didn't
Speaker 3: get touched. It never was touched. Things that happened here though,
Speaker 3: was rocks were being moved. Like I said, a feather
Speaker 3: showed up on the deck at eye level before you
Speaker 3: walk up the steps into the entry of the house.
Speaker 3: I now think I was just letting me know that, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm here. I don't know if it's the same entity
Speaker 3: that I've come across up down below in Sonora, because
Speaker 3: I've had situations there. Piking outside of Murphy's in Arnold,
Speaker 3: just stuff left sticks in the middle of the trail,
Speaker 3: that kind of thing is just letting me know I've
Speaker 3: never felt paralleled I had had sounds happen. Let's see,
Speaker 3: I started my gifting area on December fourth. I had
Speaker 3: started getting books and reading books. We also did the
Speaker 3: Alaskan cruise last year, the Bigfoot Cruise, so I got
Speaker 3: a couple of my books signed. Of course tape of
Speaker 3: Polibs and Jeff Meldrum. So that was fun. That was
Speaker 3: a new experience being on a cruise ship going to Alaska.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful. I didn't feel have any incidences in particular,
Speaker 3: other than a spiritual experience which I ran into. A
Speaker 3: person in the twelve Step program that was from the
Speaker 3: area I was from in Monterey showed up on that
Speaker 3: cruise ship. So that was cool back connection to have
Speaker 3: somebody that's also like me. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: know a lot about twelve Step program, but that's not
Speaker 3: how I reached out to you. It's like you have
Speaker 3: something in common with other people, but you don't necessarily
Speaker 3: want to let everybody know about it.
Speaker 1: Right, Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were meetings on the ship and stuff it's
Speaker 3: gone into this whole bigfootednonymous thing. And it's good because
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily want to put my stuff out there
Speaker 3: are especially like on Facebook or whatever. I don't do
Speaker 3: it because I see the hate. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: subject myself to that because I just come too far
Speaker 3: to have to dwell on other people's opinions. You know
Speaker 3: what they think.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I don't believe in more I know.
Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit more about some of
Speaker 1: the things that are happening on the property. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the sticks in the middle of the You sent me
Speaker 1: a couple of photos or a photo of a footprint.
Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about that, give us
Speaker 1: the backstory about what was going on with that and
Speaker 1: how you discovered that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I want to say that was probably close
Speaker 3: to a year ago. That's on the Red Trail outside
Speaker 3: of Arnold in Murphy's So this area is just spectacular.
Speaker 3: There's all kinds of places to hike. And every time
Speaker 3: I go out, I put you out to the universe.
Speaker 3: I stay open, I make an announcement and I'm coming in.
Speaker 3: I be protected when I go in. I also us
Speaker 3: for signs, so jah, So that was one of the
Speaker 3: suns that I got after that incident, I buy plaster,
Speaker 3: made sure I have pasta in the car now with me.
Speaker 3: I haven't cast anything yet on that particular Actually, I
Speaker 3: wasn't on that trail. That was on a trail outside
Speaker 3: of Strawberry, just below Strawberry. It's a forest trail. A
Speaker 3: lot of people use that trail for running. I think
Speaker 3: it's about three miles Idegruns between Strawberry and Frasier Flat Camp.
Speaker 3: It's along the Stamosault River. It's just spectacular areas up
Speaker 3: here to be hiking on. I didn't know what that was.
Speaker 3: I didn't know if it was a double print, but
Speaker 3: it was pretty cool because I was like, oh, I
Speaker 3: gotta take a picture of this. I'm a photographer tears
Speaker 3: and take a photos all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely didn't look like a double bear step to me.
Speaker 1: It looked like a very defined heel that sort of
Speaker 1: narrowed down and tapered the end. I'll post this obviously
Speaker 1: if you guys want to see it, It'll be over
Speaker 1: on the Sasquatch Outasy blog. You hit over to pandoma
Speaker 1: Worldproductions dot com and check out that at the top
Speaker 1: of the page and you could see the picture that
Speaker 1: Meg and I are talking about.
Speaker 3: I did reach out to Cliff thereck Man about dot print,
Speaker 3: but I haven't heard back from him. That was about
Speaker 3: the same time that I probably wrote the email to you.
Speaker 3: I got real acted one morning and started sending stuff out.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'll do. I'm gonna save it
Speaker 1: on my phone. When I see Cliff, I'm gonna hang
Speaker 1: out with him in Ohio and I'll show him the
Speaker 1: picture and we can have a conversation. I'll get back
Speaker 1: to you about that. Let's talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: mind speak in your email to us, and I want
Speaker 1: to touch on that because that's something that I've talked
Speaker 1: to many people about that have experienced that I haven't
Speaker 1: had those kind of experiences. Talk about what mind speak
Speaker 1: is to you, what kind of experiences if you had
Speaker 1: with Let's get into that a little bit, if you
Speaker 1: don't mind sure.
Speaker 3: I think the incident that I was referring to was
Speaker 3: when I was woken up out of a dead sleep.
Speaker 3: At first, in my mind, I thought it was Steve
Speaker 3: talking in his sleep, But when I woke up, I
Speaker 3: realized that I had moved out of the bedroom because
Speaker 3: sometimes he snores. I go into another bedroom. I sleep
Speaker 3: with the windows open. Mind you. I woke up out
Speaker 3: of a dead sleep and I'll go it was something speaking,
Speaker 3: and like I said, in my mind, it first went
Speaker 3: to Steve, but I was too far away to being
Speaker 3: able to hear Steve. So I was thinking that whatever
Speaker 3: the entity was, that's what that was at that time.
Speaker 3: I did hear calls the other night. It was about
Speaker 3: one thirty in the morning. It was high pitched. It
Speaker 3: was two whoops, not long duration, just quick whoops. It sounded,
Speaker 3: like I said, high pitched, so I got the idea
Speaker 3: that maybe it was female. I don't know the Doalds
Speaker 3: alert up here, so it's hard to decipher because it
Speaker 3: bounces off the pan in here, so it's hard to decipher.
Speaker 3: I'm just starting the equipment thing. I got some nice
Speaker 3: doggles for my birthday, so I've been messing with those
Speaker 3: a little bit that have infrared. I also buy those
Speaker 3: Bluetooth speaker to be able to project sound out. I
Speaker 3: read Matthew Johnson's book He's a little out there for me,
Speaker 3: but I do feel that I am on the woo
Speaker 3: side of the spectrum of Bigfoot. But his stuff is
Speaker 3: pretty out there. The other thing is we had a
Speaker 3: fox before that just number four. Did I send you
Speaker 3: the pictures of the butt shirts.
Speaker 1: No, the only picture that I saw was the one
Speaker 1: of the footprint. Yeah, they looked like there was like
Speaker 1: three other images there that I downloaded, and there was
Speaker 1: nothing there. So it was just the one of the
Speaker 1: footprint that I saw.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay. When I did first start, I started the
Speaker 3: bowl out in front of the windows the living room.
Speaker 3: So then I thought about what Matthew was saying. We
Speaker 3: said one hundred and fifty feat from where you are,
Speaker 3: so I did. I found the tree bouches in the
Speaker 3: back of me. I set up a trail and I
Speaker 3: put a feather there because that's what the entity was
Speaker 3: leaving me, was feathers. Put a feather stuck up driver
Speaker 3: in a tree stump. And then I also had purchased
Speaker 3: a stainless steel bowl because that's what Matthew did. But
Speaker 3: the first time I played out, I put two cookies,
Speaker 3: two peanut butter cookies or something I like to bake.
Speaker 3: I'm a baker. I went out on this set number fifth,
Speaker 3: I believe that morning to go check the ball, and
Speaker 3: there was a very distinctive mushroom sitting on top of
Speaker 3: the tree stunt, along with a piece of fungus which
Speaker 3: was bright yellow. But I'll send you those images. So
Speaker 3: at that point I knew something's communicating with me. Definitely,
Speaker 3: something's b I gifted. They brought something to me for that,
Speaker 3: for the two cookies I was receiving these two pieces
Speaker 3: of fungus. Yeah, started from there. I leave every night
Speaker 3: except for when I'm down in Waltney County, which is
Speaker 3: two nights a week Mondays and Tuesdays. I'm down there
Speaker 3: because I do a meeting. I'm secretary of a meeting,
Speaker 3: so I have a commitment there. I also do some
Speaker 3: recovery work through the mewalk people. There's a whole recovery
Speaker 3: based curriculum that I go to down there because I've
Speaker 3: never explored that part of my recovery. What happened at
Speaker 3: the tree stump about the end of December, there was
Speaker 3: a snowfall that we had snow on the ground for
Speaker 3: a couple of days, and a fox started coming to
Speaker 3: the tree stump, so he started marking, so he pooped
Speaker 3: right on the tree stone. He's also pooped right inside
Speaker 3: the bowl the only reason I knew it was a
Speaker 3: fox is because of snow. I saw it as old prince.
Speaker 3: I'm also seeing movement gray movement up the hill from
Speaker 3: where the stump is, so I really think he was
Speaker 3: watching me and seeing that I was putting food out.
Speaker 3: That happened. I ended up moving the bowl. I moved
Speaker 3: the bowl up into a tree. The first day I
Speaker 3: did that, I put my gifts up in the tree.
Speaker 3: The next morning I went back out and the gifts
Speaker 3: were still there. So I had another set of cookies.
Speaker 3: When I put it in the bowl and I put
Speaker 3: it back up in the tree. I started to walk
Speaker 3: down the path. I heard a definite jile pump. So
Speaker 3: I ran down the trail and got the biggest stick
Speaker 3: I could find and hit the tree that was closest.
Speaker 3: The biggest tree that was closness just an acknowledgement that
Speaker 3: he was acknowledging that the ball was in the tree. Now, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a trip. It is a trip. There was one time,
Speaker 3: I think it was in early and when I first started,
Speaker 3: within the first couple of weeks, I usually go down
Speaker 3: at dusk, go bank and leave at dusk. This particularly
Speaker 3: mean I came back down the trail, sat in the
Speaker 3: driveway and just sat really quiet. Sure enough, I heard
Speaker 3: something drump out of a tree, branches breaking the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it's at dusk. I look up the hill.
Speaker 3: I do see somewhat movement, but it's far off up
Speaker 3: the hill, something moving between the trees. I didn't really
Speaker 3: get any color, but just some movement. I sat there
Speaker 3: for a little while longer, but nothing came down to
Speaker 3: the bowl. Gifts get left for me. This was left
Speaker 3: this morning on my steps out right outside the door,
Speaker 3: which is a wooden handle of some kind. I showed
Speaker 3: it to Steep this morning. He said he's never seen
Speaker 3: it before. It's comfortable coming close to the house. Apparently
Speaker 3: the rocks that are moved around are close to the
Speaker 3: house to it are by the garden. This piece of
Speaker 3: quartz was loft on my driveway on top of some
Speaker 3: and we have a lot of leaf fall pine needles
Speaker 3: on the ground right now because it's wind. So this
Speaker 3: was on tall of the dead leagues, pretty large piece
Speaker 3: of crystal. That's what's happening.
Speaker 1: You've referred to them as entities a couple of times,
Speaker 1: so I want to get into that. I don't ask
Speaker 1: everybody what they think of these things are. But that's
Speaker 1: an interesting way to describe them. Why don't you explain
Speaker 1: a little bit about what you think these things are.
Speaker 1: Let's get into that a little bit, if you don't mind.
Speaker 3: I think they're a Native American idea of these creatures
Speaker 3: being mystical, Like I said, like Matthew Johnson, they're coming
Speaker 3: from a totally different planet right or coming through in portals.
Speaker 3: I feel that they have been here before we were here,
Speaker 3: that they are keepers of the forest, watchers of the forest,
Speaker 3: that they've been here all along. It's just now we're
Speaker 3: getting a little bit. I don't know if it's worried
Speaker 3: evolving or they are evolving. I think they're already evolved.
Speaker 3: They're at a higher dimension than we are. They're able
Speaker 3: to move in and out of dimensions, stay assimilate into
Speaker 3: the trees. But then there is this park that they're
Speaker 3: an actual animal, leaving prints, leaving trucks, stuff that you
Speaker 3: definitely know you're seeing that they are actually like us
Speaker 3: in a way, but they're kind of evolved and we
Speaker 3: are able to interact with their environment much better than
Speaker 3: we are. As far as the whole cloaking, how they
Speaker 3: move so fast. I do believe that I have had
Speaker 3: sure that it was very quick, and it was down
Speaker 3: in Sonora before my brother passed. And that's about all
Speaker 3: I saw was a flash of gray really quick on
Speaker 3: the corner of the trailer of the property. I just
Speaker 3: think they're highly blowed and they just moved super fast
Speaker 3: and stay out of our perception somehow. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Interesting stuff, Meg. I really appreciate you coming on and
Speaker 1: sharing your experiences. I've had a good time talking to you.
Speaker 2: Cool.
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