WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.639 --> 00:00:03.919 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:05.839 I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:08.359 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:11.480 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:14.720 my interest in cryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.199 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:21.679 I've personally become involved with The Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:25.320 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:29.399 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:32.159 and more. 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It's free subscribe. 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.439 So what are you waiting for visit www dot untold 22 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:06.599 radionetwork dot com. Today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:08.400 Hey everybody, this is Less Drive. 24 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:12.840 Yes, yes, I know aka Survivor Man, and you're listening 25 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:39.000 to Brian on Sasquatch Audis. Hey there, welcome back to sasquatchs. 26 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:41.359 Thank you so much for clicking play. It is Wednesday. 27 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:43.519 I hope you're having a great week. We have an 28 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:46.040 amazing guest lined up for you. But as always, want 29 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:48.599 to start where I always do. If you've had an 30 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:50.680 encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot 31 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:53.000 me an email. You can get me a Brian Apparentumoworldproductions 32 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.319 dot com. You can head over to the website, check 33 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:58.280 it out, become a member there and help support the show. 34 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:01.519 I got to sit down several months ago. I think 35 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:05.040 I actually did this particular interview back in February of 36 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:08.039 this year. But I talked to Meg in California, and 37 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:12.280 Meg had quite a few interesting experiences with what she 38 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.400 believes to be sasquatch out there on her property, and 39 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:17.159 she's here to share that with you today. She did 40 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:19.719 send me quite a few photographs that she mentions during 41 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:21.960 this interview, so if you want to see those, photographs. 42 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:25.319 Head over to our website Paranormworldproductions dot com. Check out 43 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.319 the sasquatch Otyasey blog at the top of the page, 44 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:29.280 and you could see all of the photographs that Meg 45 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:32.560 and I are talking about daring this interview. As you're 46 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:35.319 hearing this, I am on my way to an undisclosed 47 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:40.360 location with undisclosed individuals doing undisclosed things, filming for the 48 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:43.280 new documentary film that I am a part of. So 49 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.120 I will be out most of this week, but fear not, 50 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:49.360 the episodes are coming as planned. This one will drop 51 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:51.800 today on Wednesday. You will get a brand new episode 52 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.000 on Friday where I got to sit down and talk 53 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:56.879 to Jason Kinzie, who is an experiencer and a filmmaker 54 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:00.919 who's done about thirteen documentary films on Bigfoot. Very cool guy, 55 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:03.719 very cool conversation. I think you guys are really going 56 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:05.919 to enjoy that. And then on Sunday, I'm doing something 57 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:09.479 a little bit special. I found some audio from a TBRC, 58 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:14.120 the Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy, from back in twenty thirteen. 59 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:17.479 They just finished up their conference out there in Texas 60 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:19.840 and there's a Bigfoot round table here that I got 61 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:22.919 the audio from with Jeff Meldrum, a ton of the 62 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.840 guys from the North American Wood Ape Conservancy. It's a 63 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:28.240 really cool conversation. I think you guys are really going 64 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.080 to enjoy that. But enough of that, I know you 65 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.400 guys are ready to get into it. Meg's on the line, 66 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:34.319 She's ready to go. All this left for you to 67 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:57.680 do is sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I 68 00:03:57.719 --> 00:03:59.280 want to welcome our guest to the show. It is 69 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.240 Meg California. Welcome to the show. 70 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:01.479 Meg. 71 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:04.800 Hey, I'm so glad to have you here. So let's 72 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:06.759 get right into it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing. 73 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:08.919 What guy you interested in the subject to begin with? 74 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:13.840 So it's always been there, but what happened for me 75 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:20.000 is going back. I ended up in recovery, but that 76 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:24.040 was quite a while back, thirty three years ago, and 77 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:30.519 started on this spirituality path. It's evolved throughout the years, 78 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:35.279 but taking off within the last two years since I 79 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:41.079 moved from Monterey County up here. First to Tuolomy County 80 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:44.399 was to take care of my brother while he was 81 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:50.800 going through his process. He contracted cancer about six years ago, 82 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:55.720 so I ended up leaving my job down in Montey. 83 00:04:56.360 --> 00:05:02.000 That was a resource director an alcohol facility down there 84 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:05.920 for twenty nine years that I walked off the job 85 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:09.560 during COVID came up here to take care of my brother. 86 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:14.680 The signing started happening at my brother's house in a Sonora, 87 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:17.800 Oh property, I should say there and a TRAI learn 88 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:21.480 he had a little cabin off the back. I started 89 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:26.800 to notice things showing up on the property. Twice. I've 90 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:33.120 had feathers put at high level inside a post where 91 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:36.680 a gateway where I had to walk through to keep 92 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:40.879 the sheep being to the property. There's a feather's sticky 93 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:44.519 right eye level. It was just weird stuff, you know. 94 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:47.839 I met somebody up here, moved in with him. His 95 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:52.920 name's Steve. The property up here, which it's about forty 96 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:57.079 five miles up the hill from Sonora. It's a place 97 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:01.560 called Pine Grove and it's spide acres were on so 98 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:06.319 even when Sean was alive, we'd be watching expedition picks 99 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:10.199 for it. I bought a flash of beauty. I showed 100 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:14.720 that to him before he passed. Slowly getting into it. 101 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:19.680 Signs started to come to me, and then I stayed 102 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:24.000 open tonight. I spend a lot of time outdoors a 103 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:27.519 backpack when I was down in Monterey County. Now looking 104 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:31.120 back at some of the incidences that had happened, well, 105 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:37.279 it's backpacking. I think those were also signs that something 106 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:39.720 out there was trying to communicate with me. 107 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:42.000 Well, let's talk about some of the things that happened 108 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:44.399 while you were backpacking before we get into some of 109 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:47.079 the more recent stuff. Talk about some of those incidents 110 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:49.519 that you look back now in retrospect and think they 111 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:51.000 might have been Sasquatch related. 112 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:57.839 Okay, Monterey County has the Antenna Wilderness, which of course 113 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:01.600 Big serves on one side, and then on the opposite 114 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:06.920 side is King City Hunter Leggett in particular. To get 115 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:10.839 into the back country, we'd go in through there through 116 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:14.800 Hunter legg specifically China Camp. We'd leave out a China 117 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:19.600 Camp by Tasahara Hot Springs back and there. I think 118 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:22.560 it's twenty one miles to the coast. If you start 119 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:26.079 inside and work your way to the coast, it's twenty 120 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:29.000 one miles because we do it in three days. The 121 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:33.720 incident that I'm thinking of in particular was me and 122 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:37.240 a friend of mine, Peter, were out on the Big 123 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:40.480 sur side. We had gone on the old Coast Road 124 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:45.319 to get to Pico Blanco, which is the boy Scout Camp. 125 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:51.319 Beautiful spot. There's a waterfall, a turquoise pool back there. 126 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:57.000 Big Surrey is cool. Just some beautiful country. Getting into 127 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:01.439 the boy Scout Camp or pass Boy Scout Camp to 128 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:06.240 Blanco Camp. There's a halfway point before you cross the 129 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:10.800 sur River Little Surrey. Believe we camped right on the 130 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:15.120 edge of the river. We'd lay down to go to sleep. 131 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.920 Peter and I are looking up this redwood tree and 132 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:23.600 at the very top of the redwood tree is an 133 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:29.240 orange street cone. This isn't a path that people are 134 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:37.240 normally on. The Pine Ridge Trail is the more accessible trail. 135 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.639 The way we went there just aren't that many people 136 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:45.159 out there. Plus redwoods are like huge, It's what the 137 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.639 hell is that road cone doing on the top of 138 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:51.159 this redwood tree. And you could only see in the 139 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:53.679 bottom of it, but then you could see that it 140 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.240 was You could see the orange too, so it was 141 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:00.799 like that is weird. So that was like, now, thinking 142 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:04.399 back on it, I'm thinking, wow, maybe that was something 143 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:07.600 else entirely then, of course I didn't know what it 144 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.960 was at that time. Another incident that happened. It was 145 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:16.039 around this time. It was on my birthday, my birthdays tomorrow. 146 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:19.440 I want to say it was about close to ten 147 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:23.399 years ago. I was on the inside and I decided 148 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:27.200 to hike. When you borroughsah Watching is the highest peak 149 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:32.600 within Moderate County in the Vantana Wilderness. It's six and 150 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:36.120 a half up six and a half back down during 151 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:38.840 that time, and that's out of Memorial Camp in the 152 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:42.840 back of Hunter Leggett Army Base. As I started out, 153 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.559 I wanted to say it was a couple miles in now. 154 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:50.240 I heard something, but in my mind I thought I 155 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:55.200 was having like a psychic experience, like I was hearing 156 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:59.279 something out of the past. For me, it seemed more 157 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:04.679 of American like a drum, a hand drum sound. Again, 158 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:09.159 thinking back on it, what it sounded like was a 159 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:13.879 car door right, a car door closing. I had stopped 160 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:18.320 and surveyed my environment, didn't see anything, just kept walking 161 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:21.399 and it happened two more times before I reached the 162 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:25.720 peak that day. There was a man that followed. We 163 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:28.399 were on the same path. Of course, there's only one path, 164 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:32.559 one trail up the mountain. I asked him. Once he 165 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:36.000 got to the top, there's a fire tower once I 166 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.480 hiked up to the top of the fire tower, I 167 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:42.279 was able to get signal, texted my friend Peter actually 168 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:45.240 and took some pictures and told him I made it 169 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:47.679 to the top of the peak. Even though I was 170 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:52.799 by myself. I carry a GPS with me, I have 171 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:57.320 a beacon in case something happens. But now that I 172 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:00.879 think back on it, hearing other people talk about experiences 173 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:06.039 car door slamming, isn't that uncommon? And a couple other 174 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:09.200 experiences which I think I was hit with the infrasone 175 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:14.240 And for me, again, this is my own experience. When 176 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:19.039 this situation happens, I feel it in my vision where 177 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:22.919 I can't see and I can't focus. So there were 178 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.679 two times down in Monterey County where I was hiking. 179 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:31.039 One was a forest road on the top by Old 180 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:36.399 Coast Road outside of a bigxer. It doesn't stop me 181 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:40.120 from continuing to walk, but I can't focus on anything. 182 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:44.679 It's just like a blur, like something sitting right in 183 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:48.360 front of my vision. Now, at the time, I always 184 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:51.720 thought that was spirit coming to me, like somebody that's 185 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:56.440 crossed over or spirit that's there that is showing its 186 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:01.000 presence to me. But again looking at I think it 187 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:04.720 was the sound I was close to a creature. Again. 188 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:07.960 I don't know what to call it, an entity or whatever, 189 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:11.159 but a phenomenon that's going on around me. 190 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:15.519 Yeah, it's very interesting mentioned the metallic car door sounds, because, 191 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:17.840 as you said, when you get into this and you 192 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:21.440 talk to a lot of different people, it's not I 193 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:24.320 wouldn't say it's a common thing that happens, but it's 194 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:28.000 not uncommon that people hear these weird metallic sounds in 195 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:31.000 places that they should. Ron Moorehead, for example, has talked 196 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.320 about that up at the Sierra camp. They heard what 197 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.480 he said, sounded like car doors closing, and they're eight 198 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:39.080 miles deep in the woods. It just doesn't make any sense. 199 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.639 So I think it's really interesting. I don't know what 200 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:44.320 would cause that. If these things are flesh and blood, 201 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:47.360 I don't know how they would be making that noise 202 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:50.080 or why they would be making that noise. Maybe more importantly, 203 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:53.919 but certainly if there's something else to them, if you're 204 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:56.759 going to go down that road, then there's probably a 205 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.200 whole myriad of reasons and or explanations for why they 206 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:02.399 would make that sound. Have you thought about that at all, 207 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:04.799 like why the metallic sound and why it sounded like 208 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:05.480 a car door. 209 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.440 It's not so much metallic as it's like the air 210 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.399 pressure when you close the door. I haven't ever heard 211 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.679 the metal. Nothing metal or metallic, but it's like just 212 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:21.399 the closing of a car door. That's what it was. 213 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.120 I got. I have no idea. 214 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.080 All right, let's fast forward. Let's get to where you 215 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.080 are now and some of the other things that are 216 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:30.200 happening around where the area that you're at. 217 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.960 Sure I ain't put out a jar peanut butter just 218 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:39.000 out the front windows. It's sat there for I don't know, 219 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:43.200 eight months or something on a stump, and that didn't 220 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:47.840 get touched. It never was touched. Things that happened here though, 221 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:52.480 was rocks were being moved. Like I said, a feather 222 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.200 showed up on the deck at eye level before you 223 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:59.279 walk up the steps into the entry of the house. 224 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:03.559 I now think I was just letting me know that, hey, 225 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.879 I'm here. I don't know if it's the same entity 226 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.440 that I've come across up down below in Sonora, because 227 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:17.360 I've had situations there. Piking outside of Murphy's in Arnold, 228 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:21.919 just stuff left sticks in the middle of the trail, 229 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:25.240 that kind of thing is just letting me know I've 230 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:30.440 never felt paralleled I had had sounds happen. Let's see, 231 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:37.480 I started my gifting area on December fourth. I had 232 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.879 started getting books and reading books. We also did the 233 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:47.399 Alaskan cruise last year, the Bigfoot Cruise, so I got 234 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:50.200 a couple of my books signed. Of course tape of 235 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:54.759 Polibs and Jeff Meldrum. So that was fun. That was 236 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:59.039 a new experience being on a cruise ship going to Alaska. 237 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:05.120 It was beautiful. I didn't feel have any incidences in particular, 238 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:10.240 other than a spiritual experience which I ran into. A 239 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:14.360 person in the twelve Step program that was from the 240 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:18.120 area I was from in Monterey showed up on that 241 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:22.519 cruise ship. So that was cool back connection to have 242 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:25.919 somebody that's also like me. I don't know if you 243 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:29.000 know a lot about twelve Step program, but that's not 244 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:31.159 how I reached out to you. It's like you have 245 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:35.519 something in common with other people, but you don't necessarily 246 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:37.440 want to let everybody know about it. 247 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.480 Right, Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll 248 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:43.399 be right back after these messages. 249 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:50.000 Yeah, there were meetings on the ship and stuff it's 250 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:55.960 gone into this whole bigfootednonymous thing. And it's good because 251 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:00.120 I don't necessarily want to put my stuff out there 252 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:04.799 are especially like on Facebook or whatever. I don't do 253 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:07.960 it because I see the hate. I'm not going to 254 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:11.600 subject myself to that because I just come too far 255 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:14.720 to have to dwell on other people's opinions. You know 256 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:16.120 what they think. 257 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:16.639 I know. 258 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:18.799 I don't believe in more I know. 259 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:22.039 So let's talk a little bit more about some of 260 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:25.039 the things that are happening on the property. You mentioned 261 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.080 the sticks in the middle of the You sent me 262 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:30.080 a couple of photos or a photo of a footprint. 263 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:31.879 Can you talk a little bit about that, give us 264 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:34.399 the backstory about what was going on with that and 265 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:35.320 how you discovered that. 266 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:39.759 Yeah, so I want to say that was probably close 267 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:44.080 to a year ago. That's on the Red Trail outside 268 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:49.480 of Arnold in Murphy's So this area is just spectacular. 269 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.919 There's all kinds of places to hike. And every time 270 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:55.360 I go out, I put you out to the universe. 271 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:59.440 I stay open, I make an announcement and I'm coming in. 272 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.799 I be protected when I go in. I also us 273 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.240 for signs, so jah, So that was one of the 274 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:10.960 suns that I got after that incident, I buy plaster, 275 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:13.640 made sure I have pasta in the car now with me. 276 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:19.279 I haven't cast anything yet on that particular Actually, I 277 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.920 wasn't on that trail. That was on a trail outside 278 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:28.000 of Strawberry, just below Strawberry. It's a forest trail. A 279 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:31.680 lot of people use that trail for running. I think 280 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:39.799 it's about three miles Idegruns between Strawberry and Frasier Flat Camp. 281 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:47.000 It's along the Stamosault River. It's just spectacular areas up 282 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:50.400 here to be hiking on. I didn't know what that was. 283 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:52.920 I didn't know if it was a double print, but 284 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:56.079 it was pretty cool because I was like, oh, I 285 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:59.559 gotta take a picture of this. I'm a photographer tears 286 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:01.160 and take a photos all the time. 287 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:04.240 Yeah, definitely didn't look like a double bear step to me. 288 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:07.640 It looked like a very defined heel that sort of 289 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.240 narrowed down and tapered the end. I'll post this obviously 290 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:12.039 if you guys want to see it, It'll be over 291 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:14.240 on the Sasquatch Outasy blog. You hit over to pandoma 292 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:16.359 Worldproductions dot com and check out that at the top 293 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:18.440 of the page and you could see the picture that 294 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:19.599 Meg and I are talking about. 295 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:23.839 I did reach out to Cliff thereck Man about dot print, 296 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:26.480 but I haven't heard back from him. That was about 297 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.880 the same time that I probably wrote the email to you. 298 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:35.279 I got real acted one morning and started sending stuff out. 299 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:37.079 I'll tell you what I'll do. I'm gonna save it 300 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:38.960 on my phone. When I see Cliff, I'm gonna hang 301 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:40.640 out with him in Ohio and I'll show him the 302 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:42.759 picture and we can have a conversation. I'll get back 303 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:44.680 to you about that. Let's talk a little bit about 304 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:48.039 mind speak in your email to us, and I want 305 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:51.599 to touch on that because that's something that I've talked 306 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:54.400 to many people about that have experienced that I haven't 307 00:18:54.440 --> 00:18:57.319 had those kind of experiences. Talk about what mind speak 308 00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:59.720 is to you, what kind of experiences if you had 309 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:01.759 with Let's get into that a little bit, if you 310 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:02.960 don't mind sure. 311 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.480 I think the incident that I was referring to was 312 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:08.839 when I was woken up out of a dead sleep. 313 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:12.480 At first, in my mind, I thought it was Steve 314 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:16.519 talking in his sleep, But when I woke up, I 315 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:20.440 realized that I had moved out of the bedroom because 316 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:24.880 sometimes he snores. I go into another bedroom. I sleep 317 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:28.359 with the windows open. Mind you. I woke up out 318 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:33.480 of a dead sleep and I'll go it was something speaking, 319 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:37.359 and like I said, in my mind, it first went 320 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:40.039 to Steve, but I was too far away to being 321 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:44.359 able to hear Steve. So I was thinking that whatever 322 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:48.440 the entity was, that's what that was at that time. 323 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:52.200 I did hear calls the other night. It was about 324 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:56.400 one thirty in the morning. It was high pitched. It 325 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:03.640 was two whoops, not long duration, just quick whoops. It sounded, 326 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:06.799 like I said, high pitched, so I got the idea 327 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:10.160 that maybe it was female. I don't know the Doalds 328 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:15.319 alert up here, so it's hard to decipher because it 329 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:20.599 bounces off the pan in here, so it's hard to decipher. 330 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:25.759 I'm just starting the equipment thing. I got some nice 331 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:30.519 doggles for my birthday, so I've been messing with those 332 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:35.839 a little bit that have infrared. I also buy those 333 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:41.400 Bluetooth speaker to be able to project sound out. I 334 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:44.960 read Matthew Johnson's book He's a little out there for me, 335 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.720 but I do feel that I am on the woo 336 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:53.680 side of the spectrum of Bigfoot. But his stuff is 337 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:57.240 pretty out there. The other thing is we had a 338 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:01.480 fox before that just number four. Did I send you 339 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:03.000 the pictures of the butt shirts. 340 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:05.480 No, the only picture that I saw was the one 341 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:07.920 of the footprint. Yeah, they looked like there was like 342 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:10.680 three other images there that I downloaded, and there was 343 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:12.519 nothing there. So it was just the one of the 344 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:13.480 footprint that I saw. 345 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:17.720 Okay, okay. When I did first start, I started the 346 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:21.559 bowl out in front of the windows the living room. 347 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:25.240 So then I thought about what Matthew was saying. We 348 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:27.680 said one hundred and fifty feat from where you are, 349 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:30.039 so I did. I found the tree bouches in the 350 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.880 back of me. I set up a trail and I 351 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:38.920 put a feather there because that's what the entity was 352 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:42.079 leaving me, was feathers. Put a feather stuck up driver 353 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:46.599 in a tree stump. And then I also had purchased 354 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:50.839 a stainless steel bowl because that's what Matthew did. But 355 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:54.079 the first time I played out, I put two cookies, 356 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:57.200 two peanut butter cookies or something I like to bake. 357 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:00.720 I'm a baker. I went out on this set number fifth, 358 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:04.480 I believe that morning to go check the ball, and 359 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:09.000 there was a very distinctive mushroom sitting on top of 360 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:14.480 the tree stunt, along with a piece of fungus which 361 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:19.000 was bright yellow. But I'll send you those images. So 362 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:23.920 at that point I knew something's communicating with me. Definitely, 363 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:28.720 something's b I gifted. They brought something to me for that, 364 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:32.279 for the two cookies I was receiving these two pieces 365 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:37.920 of fungus. Yeah, started from there. I leave every night 366 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:41.400 except for when I'm down in Waltney County, which is 367 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.240 two nights a week Mondays and Tuesdays. I'm down there 368 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.160 because I do a meeting. I'm secretary of a meeting, 369 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:51.559 so I have a commitment there. I also do some 370 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:58.400 recovery work through the mewalk people. There's a whole recovery 371 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:02.200 based curriculum that I go to down there because I've 372 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:07.160 never explored that part of my recovery. What happened at 373 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.559 the tree stump about the end of December, there was 374 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:14.440 a snowfall that we had snow on the ground for 375 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:19.640 a couple of days, and a fox started coming to 376 00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:24.400 the tree stump, so he started marking, so he pooped 377 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:29.000 right on the tree stone. He's also pooped right inside 378 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:31.559 the bowl the only reason I knew it was a 379 00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:35.000 fox is because of snow. I saw it as old prince. 380 00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:40.279 I'm also seeing movement gray movement up the hill from 381 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:43.440 where the stump is, so I really think he was 382 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:46.119 watching me and seeing that I was putting food out. 383 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:50.440 That happened. I ended up moving the bowl. I moved 384 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:54.279 the bowl up into a tree. The first day I 385 00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:58.240 did that, I put my gifts up in the tree. 386 00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:02.759 The next morning I went back out and the gifts 387 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:06.599 were still there. So I had another set of cookies. 388 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:09.319 When I put it in the bowl and I put 389 00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:11.920 it back up in the tree. I started to walk 390 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:16.880 down the path. I heard a definite jile pump. So 391 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:20.480 I ran down the trail and got the biggest stick 392 00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:23.119 I could find and hit the tree that was closest. 393 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:27.480 The biggest tree that was closness just an acknowledgement that 394 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:31.839 he was acknowledging that the ball was in the tree. Now, yeah, 395 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:35.720 it's a trip. It is a trip. There was one time, 396 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.400 I think it was in early and when I first started, 397 00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:42.400 within the first couple of weeks, I usually go down 398 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:47.359 at dusk, go bank and leave at dusk. This particularly 399 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:50.599 mean I came back down the trail, sat in the 400 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:55.240 driveway and just sat really quiet. Sure enough, I heard 401 00:24:55.279 --> 00:25:00.400