WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.359 Senior officials are dropping faster than the vaccine injured. 2 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:05.040 Over at the Center for Disease Control. 3 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:07.400 We have a top official at the top of the 4 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:11.320 program to bring us inside RFK Junior's battle to vindicate 5 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:14.519 science in the federal government. Plus, James Fishback is with 6 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:17.760 us this evening. He's filed litigation to bring transparency and 7 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:19.480 accountability to the Federal Reserve. 8 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:21.000 And President Trump just. 9 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:24.480 Gave a massive interview to the Daily Caller, the journalist 10 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:25.719 asking great questions. 11 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:26.760 Is with us this hour? 12 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:30.559 We've got politics, Medican sin, and even a little sports tonight. 13 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:32.520 It's all next on the Mac Gates Show. Let's do 14 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:36.840 this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever. 15 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:39.359 Do you haven't watch this guy on television. 16 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:41.159 It's like a machine. 17 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:43.600 He's great, Matt Gates. 18 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:51.320 President Trump is demanding transparency from Pfizer and other big 19 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:56.479 pharmaceutical companies regarding the effectiveness and impacts of the COVID vaccines. 20 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.759 The President fired off over the weekend. I hope Operation 21 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:02.759 Will Speed was brilliant as many say it was. If not, 22 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:05.359 we all want to know about it and why. Trump said. 23 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:08.400 These statements come as Health and Human Services Secretary RFK 24 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:12.840 Junior has fired CDC Director Susan Monarez. She was fired 25 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:16.239 when she refused to step down. Four other CDC officials 26 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:18.879 followed her out the door, and that may be exactly 27 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:21.760 the swamp draining the people hoped for with the election 28 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:25.680 of Trump and the appointment of RFK Junior. Trump noted 29 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:28.519 the CDC is being ripped apart by disagreements about the 30 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:32.519 vaccine success, referencing the recent exodus. We're going to dig 31 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:36.280 into this tonight and Oaan's fearless journalism will bring you 32 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:40.040 inside the story. On other news networks, you can't make 33 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:41.840 it through a commercial break. 34 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:43.239 Without ads from big pharma. 35 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:47.560 As a result, mainstream media has a history of lying 36 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:50.640 to you about vaccines and about big pharma, and they 37 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:55.519 do so to protect their advertising dollars. First, they didn't 38 00:01:55.519 --> 00:02:00.239 tell you about the vaccine potentially having any issues. Then 39 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:04.079 they didn't cover the extent of the myocarditis and the 40 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:08.879 peri carditis. Real people were being devastated by side effects 41 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:11.759 from the vaccine. It became a concern, especially for men 42 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:14.840 under the age of thirty. There was even increased blood 43 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:18.120 plotting linked to the Johnson and Johnson and astrozenica vaccines. 44 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:21.319 It's almost certain that people are vaccine injured with blood 45 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:24.360 clots that they don't even realize the vaccine may have 46 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:28.080 played a role in those injuries. FDA Chief Marty Mcarey 47 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:30.800 even Pennan op ed to The Wall Street Journal why 48 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:35.360 the FDA doesn't support COVID boosters forever. It's an interesting 49 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:38.800 read on this program. We don't allow dollars or dogmas 50 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:41.360 to get in the way of our pursuit of science. 51 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:45.599 President Trump calls for transparency, and we find those calls 52 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:46.240 welcome here. 53 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:47.400 So what will we learn? 54 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.960 Doctor Robert Malone was appointed by Secretary Robert F. Kennedy 55 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:54.360 Junior to serve on the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices 56 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:58.000 in June. ACIP is the CDC's chief advisory panel on 57 00:02:58.080 --> 00:02:59.280 vaccine recommendations. 58 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:00.599 Doctor Mallow joins us. 59 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.439 Now, Doctor Malone, you've been a guiding light for so 60 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:05.919 many of our viewers on these questions, even before you 61 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.960 took on this current role. But I have to ask 62 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.159 you about the President's recent comments. Are vaccines tearing the 63 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:11.960 CDC apart? 64 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:19.560 Certainly, the discussion about vaccine policy is become a major 65 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:25.240 flashpoint within the CDC, and Matt just to calibrate this. 66 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:29.240 Only ten percent of the CDC staff right now are 67 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:34.800 on site. That'll continue until September fifteenth. Consequent to the 68 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:38.639 shooter who put some lead in the outside of the 69 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:44.479 CDC and unfortunately we lost a security officer, father of 70 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:48.639 a young family in that but nobody else. He didn't 71 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:52.759 enter the building. But the CDC staff have all been 72 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:56.080 on whether you want to call it fur lough er 73 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:59.800 work at home and will continue through the fifteenth for 74 00:03:59.879 --> 00:04:02.919 the so the place is hardly it's a ghost town 75 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:07.280 right now. Getting anything done there is that challenge, I'll 76 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:13.680 tell you. And then the experience at the ACIP, particularly 77 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:18.519 for the COVID work Group subcommittee, has been one of 78 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:23.839 obstructionism and slow walking for weeks and weeks now over 79 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:28.240 the issue of what is referred to as the terms 80 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:33.160 of reference its internal bureaucracy slang for scope of work 81 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:39.560 for what the subcommittee will be allowed to investigate by 82 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:45.000 the CDC staff. And my colleague Retzef Levy, who's the 83 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:48.399 chair of that group, would have none of that, and 84 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:50.519 he's pretty much gone to the mat. And one of 85 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:53.560 the things that it's important to understand about Retzev is 86 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:57.000 he's got ten years of service to the Israeli Defense Force, 87 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:59.480 so he's not easily intimidated. 88 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:02.560 No, I can't imagine it would be. 89 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:05.959 And I sort of chuckled, doctor Malone, because this is 90 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:10.000 an old Washington trick. If they if you're making progress 91 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:13.600 to change a system, they try to limit your scope 92 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:16.399 as much as possible and then layer as many different 93 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:19.399 layers above you and below you, so that if there 94 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:23.040 are good ideas that maybe gore someone's ox or impair 95 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:26.560 their turf, that those ideas never get to the forefront. First, 96 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:29.600 I want to do more diagnosis here with you. When 97 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:33.279 you say that there is obstructionism and slow walking, what 98 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.399 do you attribute that to? Why are people doing that? 99 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:38.920 So the. 100 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:46.360 Claim made by the rather prominent CDC leadership that resigned 101 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:50.160 last week rather spectacularly and then was on ABC News 102 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:56.079 and then just eviscerated on social media afterwards, was that 103 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:02.360 the secretary was politicizing the CDC and politicizing the science 104 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:03.240 of the CDC. 105 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:06.120 But as having had. 106 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:09.720 A first person perspective on this, what I saw was 107 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:15.439 that together with Retsf, I was a co author, but 108 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:21.160 Retzf was on lead. What we have advocated for at 109 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:26.680 the working group level is what most people would concur 110 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:32.600 is an objective scientific reevaluation of the safety and effectiveness 111 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:38.279 of these products. So the optics are that the obstructionism 112 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:44.600 had to do with resistance to independently assessing the conclusions 113 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:50.439 that CDC had arrived at concerning safety and effectiveness of 114 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:55.040 these COVID products, And the optics are they really didn't 115 00:06:55.079 --> 00:07:00.120 want us asking those questions or doing those investigations. And 116 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:05.079 basically the position was that the staff had the right 117 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:09.240 to determine what the ACIP was able to look at, 118 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:14.000 and that the ACIP should not look at things that 119 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:18.680 have already been examined independently by CDC staff. So they've 120 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:22.120 already made their determination about the safety and effectiveness, and 121 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:25.399 we essentially were supposed to just accept that swallow it, 122 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:32.160 so to speak, without independently verifying, using well qualified academics 123 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:35.959 that have actually been doing rigorous studies and reporting what 124 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:36.839 their findings are. 125 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:38.199 So that was the. 126 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:42.600 Sticker, and they claimed on ABC News and other outlets, 127 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:46.319 oh my god, Bobby is politicizing this. But the truth 128 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:50.040 is that policy was never a subject of discussion. 129 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:52.399 The subject of discussion. 130 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.839 Was scope of what would be looked at and whether 131 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:58.720 or not we would be allowed to get independent voices. 132 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:02.360 And remember, Matt, enough about the government. This is under 133 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:06.879 ACIP operates under the Federal Advisory Committee Act FAKA Act, 134 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:12.240 and FACA committees are supposed to be entirely independent, providing 135 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:17.279 outside input to key administrators in the government. It's not 136 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:20.360 supposed to be a captured committee that does the bidding 137 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:22.360 of the bureaucrats within that agency. 138 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:25.920 You'll correct me if I'm wrong, But what I remember 139 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:30.439 about the scientific method from high school is that retesting 140 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:35.000 is actually critically important to go back and challenge prior 141 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:39.919 assumptions and to see if new technologies or new theories unlock. 142 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:41.360 A different way of thinking about something. 143 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.320 That if we just if we just say, well, something's 144 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:45.960 been tested, so we have to we have to cast 145 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.720 that in concrete and never look at it again and 146 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.000 never question it again. That to me seems like an 147 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:55.320 assault on the scientific method, not an embrace of it. 148 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:58.159 And then the of course, you know, you you outline 149 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:00.720 the critique. Oh, this is this is hyper political. But 150 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:03.279 what I worry about doctor Malone is whether or not 151 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:06.320 some of those other findings that they now want to 152 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:10.039 say are bronzed can never be questioned that they may 153 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:13.679 have been influenced by the desires of big pharma, the 154 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:18.559 desires of vaccine manufacturers. And when you say now that 155 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:20.840 you just get some folks in there who are experts 156 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.919 who want to look at these issues, you're told, oh, no, no, no, 157 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:28.279 the staff gets to decide what you're allowed to look at. 158 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:30.639 Don't look there, don't look here. Does it feel to 159 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.720 you just like a good old fashioned cover up? 160 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:38.480 These are not the drones you're looking for, right. 161 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:43.759 It certainly reeks of that, And Matt, the good news 162 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:51.840 is that these individuals that have been obstructing, we could 163 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:56.679 say that they've self doged or self deported them from 164 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:57.279 the CDC. 165 00:09:57.960 --> 00:09:58.879 They're no longer there. 166 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:03.159 And the good news is that the staff that have 167 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:09.919 been assigned to fill those roles now are being very cooperative. 168 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:15.840 We are developing an active partnership between the subcommittee and 169 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:20.480 those new individuals that are finally able to rise based 170 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:24.200 on merit as opposed to DEI criteria. 171 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.240 I mean that to be blunt. That's what's at the 172 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:29.879 core of this is this is. 173 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:36.080 The residuum of Biden administration DEI policies, and I don't 174 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:40.639 want to feature the particular individual that has been spread 175 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.200 all over social media, after having been spread on the 176 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:48.679 front pages of various publications historically. 177 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:52.440 But you know that the individual. 178 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:57.480 That's been so obstructionist was put in this position as 179 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:04.399 a advocate for vaccine equity. This is an individual that 180 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:11.960 represents a select community, very active in HIV space. And 181 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:15.960 this is the individual who was brought on as the 182 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:20.879 direct advisor to Rachelle Wolenski during the COVID crisis from 183 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:27.200 New York City and then was also the director. The individual, 184 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:31.080 not director, the individual appointed to be in charge of 185 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:34.240 the monkey pox policy. This is the individual that advocated 186 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:38.799 for universal monkey pox vaccination of American citizens using a 187 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:44.559 vaccine that was not designed for monkey pox. This is 188 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:49.279 md MPH with no scientific background, that is cloaking himself 189 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:55.360 in the science. Is basically parenting, not quite exactly the 190 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:59.879 same words, but parenting. Tony Fauci's position of I represent 191 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:04.720 the science and these individuals here on this subcommittee don't, 192 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:08.840 and that that's just not okay. 193 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:13.200 That is not science. That is something else. 194 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.840 We could call authoritarianism, we could call it narcissism, a 195 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.759 lot of words we could use there, but it's it's 196 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:24.000 not in the interest of the American public. And kudos 197 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:29.440 to President Trump for a dropping this bombshell on True 198 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:36.159 Social Sunday Morning, in which he basically put Pfizer and Maderna, 199 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:40.799 et cetera on notice that they've given him personally a 200 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:44.000 lot of happy talk, but he's sick and tired of it, 201 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:46.320 and he wants the truth just. 202 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:48.600 Like the rest of us. No, I think that just 203 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:49.720 want the data. 204 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:50.000 Yeah. 205 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:53.440 I don't think that science really bends to power, to 206 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:55.879 political power. And that's why I think a lot of 207 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:58.799 Americans are hopeful that the work you're doing, and that 208 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.840 and that Secretary count you're doing are durable no matter 209 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:04.960 which political party is in power. We believe that the 210 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.080 data and constant rigor and testing and questioning ourselves, you know, 211 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:13.440 should drive the public health policies of our country. But 212 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.200 we've got, We've done, I think, a thorough job diagnosing 213 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.159 what's wrong there. I want to talk now about the remedy, 214 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:22.159 how to fix it. What you know in addition to 215 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.240 changing people, can you talk about the durable things that 216 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:29.840 you and Secretary Kennedy and other great Americans are working 217 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:33.120 on that we think can get broad based support so 218 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:36.519 that this doesn't become such a vexing wedge for the country. 219 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:39.840 Well, thank you, And it shouldn't be. We shouldn't. I've 220 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.600 said this so many times. It really. 221 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:45.519 If there's one lesson from the COVID crisis, it's that 222 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:49.399 politicizing public health is a bad idea. We've seen a 223 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:51.320 lot of bad ideas, and that one has got to 224 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:56.159 be at the top of the list. So the initiative, 225 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:59.639 as you know, Matt, that's ongoing right now. And as 226 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:04.600 if this latest news cycle wasn't packed enough, very soon, 227 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:07.759 in theory, we're supposed to have the drop of the 228 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:12.120 next MAHAK Commission report. The prior report was basically the 229 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:15.720 threat assessment, and the one that's about to drop is 230 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:17.159 the action plan. 231 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:20.399 It's it's what are we gonna do about it? 232 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:22.399 What are we going to do to keep our children 233 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:25.840 from being having shorter lives and being less healthy than 234 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:30.279 their parents? And that is the best answer I can 235 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.960 give to you right now. I'm not Secretary Kennedy. I 236 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.559 occasionally talk to him, but I am not his chief advisor. 237 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.080 I'm not Stephanie Spear. I don't know exactly what's going on, 238 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:47.039 but I do have confidence in his commitment. I have 239 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:51.799 confidence in the tight shared interests between the President and 240 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:56.200 the Secretary in advancing the health of our children. Children 241 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:59.600 and families are central to both the President and the 242 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:01.840 Second Kerry. It's one of the things that binds them, 243 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:05.759 and they're both committed to advancing the health of not 244 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:08.639 only all Americans, but particularly our youth. 245 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:10.799 Yeah, and certainly doctor Mullen. 246 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:12.759 Before we let you go, I do want to get 247 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:16.399 a sense of what your role will be in responding 248 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:20.559 to President Trump's call for transparency around these really operative questions. 249 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:23.480 What will you and the committee be doing so that 250 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:27.120 you fully respond to and vindicate what the President wants 251 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:28.399 on vaccine transparency. 252 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:32.480 Hey, again the caveat. This is my opinion. 253 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:35.159 I don't represent the CDC or the ACIP or the 254 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:40.240 US government, But our answer from the ACIP and the 255 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:44.159 subcommittee will draw to the best of our ability given 256 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:48.120 the short timeline on September eighteenth and nineteenth at the 257 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.519 upcoming ACIP meeting, so you will see what our recommendations 258 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:56.360 are going forward relating to these products. 259 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:58.320 And then the mission. 260 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:03.600 Space that we have managed to squeeze includes revisiting the 261 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:09.320 entire pediatric schedule, insisting on data for vaccine vaccine interactions, 262 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:16.039 insisting on controlled data, addressing these issues such as the 263 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:23.919 appropriateness of immediate after birth vaccination with hepatitis B vaccine, 264 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:29.080 the importance and the appropriateness of the current vaccine schedule 265 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:35.440 for the human papillomavirus vaccine, and really everything else is 266 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:37.960 all on the table. Is this the right thing to 267 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:42.080 be doing, that we're doing, and what about the interactions 268 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:46.320 of these and remember another, as if things aren't busy enough, 269 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:51.519 the Secretary has promised a major drop of information relating 270 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:53.600 to autism. And if I had to look in my 271 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:59.840 crystal ball, I speculate that what we might hear is 272 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:05.000 something about the interaction of Thailand all in the very 273 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:10.079 young together with things that are pro inflammatory, like say, 274 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:15.440 for example, multiple vaccination, that may be part of the 275 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:19.680 issue associated with autism. I speculate, and many others are 276 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:25.519 saying so. But the Secretary made it clear that, as 277 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:28.319 he said in that very first press conference, he was 278 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:30.039 going to get to the bottom, to the best of 279 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.119 his ability, of the issue on the wave of autism. 280 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:38.839 By this September, here we are it's showtime, and so 281 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:42.680 you can anticipate there's going to be some important announcements 282 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:44.000 associated with that very soon. 283 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:46.200 That is quite the tease, and we definitely want to 284 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.079 have you back on toward the middle of the month 285 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:52.039 to really dive into that report and those findings in 286 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.920 the next steps that are to come. I recall as 287 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:57.599 a congressman the number of times doctor Malone, you came 288 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:01.319 before our committees and you said, nobody's listening. You brought science, 289 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:03.720 you brought facts, and now we're grateful you're in a 290 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.559 position to serve the public and work to really bring 291 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.240 a lot of robust policy to the vision that we've 292 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:13.160 seen from President Trump and Secretary Kennedy. 293 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:14.920 Thanks as always for joining the program. 294 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:17.279 Thanks for having me on, Matt, carry on. 295 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:20.839 And the Federal Reserve is in the news, not just 296 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:24.640 for interest rates. 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He's got to answer for 336 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:05.519 why he's not coming out and saying this is bad. 337 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:09.680 He's destroying the credibility to the Fed by not saying 338 00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:12.000 that mortgage fraud is bad. See, the mortgage market is 339 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:14.920 very dependent on the credibility of the Fed, and. 340 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:17.759 So it's concerning. That was the hammer. 341 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:21.480 Bill Poulti, President Trump's man over at the Federal Housing 342 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:27.160 Finance Corporation speaking to reporters about second mortgage fraud criminal 343 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:31.240 referrals against the Federal Reserve and battled Governor Lisa Cook. 344 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:34.480 We hadn't really heard about mortgage fraud until Poulti started 345 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:36.599 looking around. It turns out some of the worst people 346 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:40.200 in DC have been accused of telling lies to get 347 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:44.680 better subsidized interest rates on second homes. Isn't that just 348 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:49.240 an interesting little elitist problem, using lies to get regular 349 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:53.000 folks to be backing your lower interest rate that you 350 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:58.319 don't deserve on your second home. Federal policy subsidizes lower 351 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:01.519 than market rate interest rates for people actually living in 352 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:05.079 their home, their homestead. That's probably good public policy because 353 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:08.440 people need to have a home. But imagine the nerve 354 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:11.920 of Senator Adam Schiff or Attorney General of New York 355 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:16.000 Tis James and Fed Governor Lisa Cook for suggesting on 356 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:18.599 their paperwork that their home is a residence when it 357 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.440 in fact is an investment a second home. Most Americans 358 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.079 here Federal Reserve meeting and imagine something out of a 359 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:29.480 sleep apnea study. But it's reasonable to ask, why are 360 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:33.480 the most powerful economic decisions in America happening behind closed doors. 361 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:34.960 Put it on c span. 362 00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:37.799 Let us see who yawns, who doodles, and who actually 363 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:40.400 knows what a mortgage is. The FED should be turned 364 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:44.799 from a smoke filled backroom into primetime reality. Honestly, with 365 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:47.319 Powell at the mic and inflation at the door, I'd 366 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.599 tune in. And when Trump called out Fed Governor Lisa 367 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:54.599 Cook over her double dipping mortgage paperwork, our next guest, 368 00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:58.039 James Fishback, didn't sit back. He didn't just tweet his 369 00:22:58.119 --> 00:23:00.799 thoughts in prayers. He's a major player in finance, and 370 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:03.880 he filed briefs, staked out positions, and showed up in 371 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:07.559 court like Perry Mason with a Bloomberg terminal. It's fashionable 372 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:10.960 for people in finance to stay in the shadows, quiet rooms, 373 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.880 glass towers, polite applause at Davos. Fishback missed that memo, 374 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:18.160 and let's be honest. This is where it gets fun 375 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:20.680 because Fishback isn't just a finance guy. He's a showman. 376 00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:23.119 He knows that politics is a performance art and he 377 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:26.200 plays it with gusto. While most CEOs are worried about 378 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:30.640 their LinkedIn headshots, this guy's in federal court filing open 379 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:35.960 government access cases, demanding that Powell stop hiding behind mahogany doors. 380 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:40.079 Joining us now the CEO of Azoria, James Fishback. James, 381 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:43.200 you've been a bulldog going after the lack of transparency, 382 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.680 and accountability at the Federal Reserve. Where does some of 383 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:47.720 your more recent legal filing stand. 384 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:51.119 Well, right here, right now, Matt. What we are attempting 385 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.759 to do is force the Federal Reserve to do something 386 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:56.880 they have not done in over half a century, and 387 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.480 that is to conduct their business in public views. So 388 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.119 much of why the Fed has gotten things so wrong 389 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:06.640 is because they're immune from public debate and criticism. 390 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:06.880 Matt. 391 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:09.640 The reason why you've been able to call out government 392 00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:12.440 when it's gone wrong is because you're able to witness 393 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:16.079 those government proceedings when they err. And so a natural 394 00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:19.680 precondition on our First Amendment right to petition our government 395 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:21.880 is of course to know what our government is up to. 396 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:24.000 And so what we're trying to do now in the 397 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.720 federal court system in this case that my investment firm 398 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.119 has brought it's called Azoria v. Powell for Jerome Powell, 399 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:33.480 of course, is to force the Federal Reserve into compliance 400 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:36.839 with the Sunshine Act of nineteen seventy six. That Act, Matt, 401 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:41.240