Speaker 1: Senior officials are dropping faster than the vaccine injured.
Speaker 2: Over at the Center for Disease Control.
Speaker 1: We have a top official at the top of the
Speaker 1: program to bring us inside RFK Junior's battle to vindicate
Speaker 1: science in the federal government. Plus, James Fishback is with
Speaker 1: us this evening. He's filed litigation to bring transparency and
Speaker 1: accountability to the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 2: And President Trump just.
Speaker 1: Gave a massive interview to the Daily Caller, the journalist
Speaker 1: asking great questions.
Speaker 2: Is with us this hour?
Speaker 1: We've got politics, Medican sin, and even a little sports tonight.
Speaker 2: It's all next on the Mac Gates Show. Let's do
Speaker 2: this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 2: Do you haven't watch this guy on television.
Speaker 3: It's like a machine.
Speaker 2: He's great, Matt Gates.
Speaker 1: President Trump is demanding transparency from Pfizer and other big
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical companies regarding the effectiveness and impacts of the COVID vaccines.
Speaker 1: The President fired off over the weekend. I hope Operation
Speaker 1: Will Speed was brilliant as many say it was. If not,
Speaker 1: we all want to know about it and why. Trump said.
Speaker 1: These statements come as Health and Human Services Secretary RFK
Speaker 1: Junior has fired CDC Director Susan Monarez. She was fired
Speaker 1: when she refused to step down. Four other CDC officials
Speaker 1: followed her out the door, and that may be exactly
Speaker 1: the swamp draining the people hoped for with the election
Speaker 1: of Trump and the appointment of RFK Junior. Trump noted
Speaker 1: the CDC is being ripped apart by disagreements about the
Speaker 1: vaccine success, referencing the recent exodus. We're going to dig
Speaker 1: into this tonight and Oaan's fearless journalism will bring you
Speaker 1: inside the story. On other news networks, you can't make
Speaker 1: it through a commercial break.
Speaker 2: Without ads from big pharma.
Speaker 1: As a result, mainstream media has a history of lying
Speaker 1: to you about vaccines and about big pharma, and they
Speaker 1: do so to protect their advertising dollars. First, they didn't
Speaker 1: tell you about the vaccine potentially having any issues. Then
Speaker 1: they didn't cover the extent of the myocarditis and the
Speaker 1: peri carditis. Real people were being devastated by side effects
Speaker 1: from the vaccine. It became a concern, especially for men
Speaker 1: under the age of thirty. There was even increased blood
Speaker 1: plotting linked to the Johnson and Johnson and astrozenica vaccines.
Speaker 1: It's almost certain that people are vaccine injured with blood
Speaker 1: clots that they don't even realize the vaccine may have
Speaker 1: played a role in those injuries. FDA Chief Marty Mcarey
Speaker 1: even Pennan op ed to The Wall Street Journal why
Speaker 1: the FDA doesn't support COVID boosters forever. It's an interesting
Speaker 1: read on this program. We don't allow dollars or dogmas
Speaker 1: to get in the way of our pursuit of science.
Speaker 1: President Trump calls for transparency, and we find those calls
Speaker 1: welcome here.
Speaker 4: So what will we learn?
Speaker 1: Doctor Robert Malone was appointed by Secretary Robert F. Kennedy
Speaker 1: Junior to serve on the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Speaker 1: in June. ACIP is the CDC's chief advisory panel on
Speaker 1: vaccine recommendations.
Speaker 2: Doctor Mallow joins us.
Speaker 1: Now, Doctor Malone, you've been a guiding light for so
Speaker 1: many of our viewers on these questions, even before you
Speaker 1: took on this current role. But I have to ask
Speaker 1: you about the President's recent comments. Are vaccines tearing the
Speaker 1: CDC apart?
Speaker 5: Certainly, the discussion about vaccine policy is become a major
Speaker 5: flashpoint within the CDC, and Matt just to calibrate this.
Speaker 5: Only ten percent of the CDC staff right now are
Speaker 5: on site. That'll continue until September fifteenth. Consequent to the
Speaker 5: shooter who put some lead in the outside of the
Speaker 5: CDC and unfortunately we lost a security officer, father of
Speaker 5: a young family in that but nobody else. He didn't
Speaker 5: enter the building. But the CDC staff have all been
Speaker 5: on whether you want to call it fur lough er
Speaker 5: work at home and will continue through the fifteenth for
Speaker 5: the so the place is hardly it's a ghost town
Speaker 5: right now. Getting anything done there is that challenge, I'll
Speaker 5: tell you. And then the experience at the ACIP, particularly
Speaker 5: for the COVID work Group subcommittee, has been one of
Speaker 5: obstructionism and slow walking for weeks and weeks now over
Speaker 5: the issue of what is referred to as the terms
Speaker 5: of reference its internal bureaucracy slang for scope of work
Speaker 5: for what the subcommittee will be allowed to investigate by
Speaker 5: the CDC staff. And my colleague Retzef Levy, who's the
Speaker 5: chair of that group, would have none of that, and
Speaker 5: he's pretty much gone to the mat. And one of
Speaker 5: the things that it's important to understand about Retzev is
Speaker 5: he's got ten years of service to the Israeli Defense Force,
Speaker 5: so he's not easily intimidated.
Speaker 2: No, I can't imagine it would be.
Speaker 1: And I sort of chuckled, doctor Malone, because this is
Speaker 1: an old Washington trick. If they if you're making progress
Speaker 1: to change a system, they try to limit your scope
Speaker 1: as much as possible and then layer as many different
Speaker 1: layers above you and below you, so that if there
Speaker 1: are good ideas that maybe gore someone's ox or impair
Speaker 1: their turf, that those ideas never get to the forefront. First,
Speaker 1: I want to do more diagnosis here with you. When
Speaker 1: you say that there is obstructionism and slow walking, what
Speaker 1: do you attribute that to? Why are people doing that?
Speaker 3: So the.
Speaker 5: Claim made by the rather prominent CDC leadership that resigned
Speaker 5: last week rather spectacularly and then was on ABC News
Speaker 5: and then just eviscerated on social media afterwards, was that
Speaker 5: the secretary was politicizing the CDC and politicizing the science
Speaker 5: of the CDC.
Speaker 3: But as having had.
Speaker 5: A first person perspective on this, what I saw was
Speaker 5: that together with Retsf, I was a co author, but
Speaker 5: Retzf was on lead. What we have advocated for at
Speaker 5: the working group level is what most people would concur
Speaker 5: is an objective scientific reevaluation of the safety and effectiveness
Speaker 5: of these products. So the optics are that the obstructionism
Speaker 5: had to do with resistance to independently assessing the conclusions
Speaker 5: that CDC had arrived at concerning safety and effectiveness of
Speaker 5: these COVID products, And the optics are they really didn't
Speaker 5: want us asking those questions or doing those investigations. And
Speaker 5: basically the position was that the staff had the right
Speaker 5: to determine what the ACIP was able to look at,
Speaker 5: and that the ACIP should not look at things that
Speaker 5: have already been examined independently by CDC staff. So they've
Speaker 5: already made their determination about the safety and effectiveness, and
Speaker 5: we essentially were supposed to just accept that swallow it,
Speaker 5: so to speak, without independently verifying, using well qualified academics
Speaker 5: that have actually been doing rigorous studies and reporting what
Speaker 5: their findings are.
Speaker 2: So that was the.
Speaker 5: Sticker, and they claimed on ABC News and other outlets,
Speaker 5: oh my god, Bobby is politicizing this. But the truth
Speaker 5: is that policy was never a subject of discussion.
Speaker 3: The subject of discussion.
Speaker 5: Was scope of what would be looked at and whether
Speaker 5: or not we would be allowed to get independent voices.
Speaker 5: And remember, Matt, enough about the government. This is under
Speaker 5: ACIP operates under the Federal Advisory Committee Act FAKA Act,
Speaker 5: and FACA committees are supposed to be entirely independent, providing
Speaker 5: outside input to key administrators in the government. It's not
Speaker 5: supposed to be a captured committee that does the bidding
Speaker 5: of the bureaucrats within that agency.
Speaker 1: You'll correct me if I'm wrong, But what I remember
Speaker 1: about the scientific method from high school is that retesting
Speaker 1: is actually critically important to go back and challenge prior
Speaker 1: assumptions and to see if new technologies or new theories unlock.
Speaker 2: A different way of thinking about something.
Speaker 1: That if we just if we just say, well, something's
Speaker 1: been tested, so we have to we have to cast
Speaker 1: that in concrete and never look at it again and
Speaker 1: never question it again. That to me seems like an
Speaker 1: assault on the scientific method, not an embrace of it.
Speaker 1: And then the of course, you know, you you outline
Speaker 1: the critique. Oh, this is this is hyper political. But
Speaker 1: what I worry about doctor Malone is whether or not
Speaker 1: some of those other findings that they now want to
Speaker 1: say are bronzed can never be questioned that they may
Speaker 1: have been influenced by the desires of big pharma, the
Speaker 1: desires of vaccine manufacturers. And when you say now that
Speaker 1: you just get some folks in there who are experts
Speaker 1: who want to look at these issues, you're told, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the staff gets to decide what you're allowed to look at.
Speaker 1: Don't look there, don't look here. Does it feel to
Speaker 1: you just like a good old fashioned cover up?
Speaker 3: These are not the drones you're looking for, right.
Speaker 5: It certainly reeks of that, And Matt, the good news
Speaker 5: is that these individuals that have been obstructing, we could
Speaker 5: say that they've self doged or self deported them from
Speaker 5: the CDC.
Speaker 3: They're no longer there.
Speaker 5: And the good news is that the staff that have
Speaker 5: been assigned to fill those roles now are being very cooperative.
Speaker 5: We are developing an active partnership between the subcommittee and
Speaker 5: those new individuals that are finally able to rise based
Speaker 5: on merit as opposed to DEI criteria.
Speaker 3: I mean that to be blunt. That's what's at the
Speaker 3: core of this is this is.
Speaker 5: The residuum of Biden administration DEI policies, and I don't
Speaker 5: want to feature the particular individual that has been spread
Speaker 5: all over social media, after having been spread on the
Speaker 5: front pages of various publications historically.
Speaker 3: But you know that the individual.
Speaker 5: That's been so obstructionist was put in this position as
Speaker 5: a advocate for vaccine equity. This is an individual that
Speaker 5: represents a select community, very active in HIV space. And
Speaker 5: this is the individual who was brought on as the
Speaker 5: direct advisor to Rachelle Wolenski during the COVID crisis from
Speaker 5: New York City and then was also the director. The individual,
Speaker 5: not director, the individual appointed to be in charge of
Speaker 5: the monkey pox policy. This is the individual that advocated
Speaker 5: for universal monkey pox vaccination of American citizens using a
Speaker 5: vaccine that was not designed for monkey pox. This is
Speaker 5: md MPH with no scientific background, that is cloaking himself
Speaker 5: in the science. Is basically parenting, not quite exactly the
Speaker 5: same words, but parenting. Tony Fauci's position of I represent
Speaker 5: the science and these individuals here on this subcommittee don't,
Speaker 5: and that that's just not okay.
Speaker 3: That is not science. That is something else.
Speaker 5: We could call authoritarianism, we could call it narcissism, a
Speaker 5: lot of words we could use there, but it's it's
Speaker 5: not in the interest of the American public. And kudos
Speaker 5: to President Trump for a dropping this bombshell on True
Speaker 5: Social Sunday Morning, in which he basically put Pfizer and Maderna,
Speaker 5: et cetera on notice that they've given him personally a
Speaker 5: lot of happy talk, but he's sick and tired of it,
Speaker 5: and he wants the truth just.
Speaker 3: Like the rest of us. No, I think that just
Speaker 3: want the data.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think that science really bends to power, to
Speaker 1: political power. And that's why I think a lot of
Speaker 1: Americans are hopeful that the work you're doing, and that
Speaker 1: and that Secretary count you're doing are durable no matter
Speaker 1: which political party is in power. We believe that the
Speaker 1: data and constant rigor and testing and questioning ourselves, you know,
Speaker 1: should drive the public health policies of our country. But
Speaker 1: we've got, We've done, I think, a thorough job diagnosing
Speaker 1: what's wrong there. I want to talk now about the remedy,
Speaker 1: how to fix it. What you know in addition to
Speaker 1: changing people, can you talk about the durable things that
Speaker 1: you and Secretary Kennedy and other great Americans are working
Speaker 1: on that we think can get broad based support so
Speaker 1: that this doesn't become such a vexing wedge for the country.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, And it shouldn't be. We shouldn't. I've
Speaker 3: said this so many times. It really.
Speaker 5: If there's one lesson from the COVID crisis, it's that
Speaker 5: politicizing public health is a bad idea. We've seen a
Speaker 5: lot of bad ideas, and that one has got to
Speaker 5: be at the top of the list. So the initiative,
Speaker 5: as you know, Matt, that's ongoing right now. And as
Speaker 5: if this latest news cycle wasn't packed enough, very soon,
Speaker 5: in theory, we're supposed to have the drop of the
Speaker 5: next MAHAK Commission report. The prior report was basically the
Speaker 5: threat assessment, and the one that's about to drop is
Speaker 5: the action plan.
Speaker 3: It's it's what are we gonna do about it?
Speaker 5: What are we going to do to keep our children
Speaker 5: from being having shorter lives and being less healthy than
Speaker 5: their parents? And that is the best answer I can
Speaker 5: give to you right now. I'm not Secretary Kennedy. I
Speaker 5: occasionally talk to him, but I am not his chief advisor.
Speaker 5: I'm not Stephanie Spear. I don't know exactly what's going on,
Speaker 5: but I do have confidence in his commitment. I have
Speaker 5: confidence in the tight shared interests between the President and
Speaker 5: the Secretary in advancing the health of our children. Children
Speaker 5: and families are central to both the President and the
Speaker 5: Second Kerry. It's one of the things that binds them,
Speaker 5: and they're both committed to advancing the health of not
Speaker 5: only all Americans, but particularly our youth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly doctor Mullen.
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, I do want to get
Speaker 1: a sense of what your role will be in responding
Speaker 1: to President Trump's call for transparency around these really operative questions.
Speaker 1: What will you and the committee be doing so that
Speaker 1: you fully respond to and vindicate what the President wants
Speaker 1: on vaccine transparency.
Speaker 3: Hey, again the caveat. This is my opinion.
Speaker 5: I don't represent the CDC or the ACIP or the
Speaker 5: US government, But our answer from the ACIP and the
Speaker 5: subcommittee will draw to the best of our ability given
Speaker 5: the short timeline on September eighteenth and nineteenth at the
Speaker 5: upcoming ACIP meeting, so you will see what our recommendations
Speaker 5: are going forward relating to these products.
Speaker 3: And then the mission.
Speaker 5: Space that we have managed to squeeze includes revisiting the
Speaker 5: entire pediatric schedule, insisting on data for vaccine vaccine interactions,
Speaker 5: insisting on controlled data, addressing these issues such as the
Speaker 5: appropriateness of immediate after birth vaccination with hepatitis B vaccine,
Speaker 5: the importance and the appropriateness of the current vaccine schedule
Speaker 5: for the human papillomavirus vaccine, and really everything else is
Speaker 5: all on the table. Is this the right thing to
Speaker 5: be doing, that we're doing, and what about the interactions
Speaker 5: of these and remember another, as if things aren't busy enough,
Speaker 5: the Secretary has promised a major drop of information relating
Speaker 5: to autism. And if I had to look in my
Speaker 5: crystal ball, I speculate that what we might hear is
Speaker 5: something about the interaction of Thailand all in the very
Speaker 5: young together with things that are pro inflammatory, like say,
Speaker 5: for example, multiple vaccination, that may be part of the
Speaker 5: issue associated with autism. I speculate, and many others are
Speaker 5: saying so. But the Secretary made it clear that, as
Speaker 5: he said in that very first press conference, he was
Speaker 5: going to get to the bottom, to the best of
Speaker 5: his ability, of the issue on the wave of autism.
Speaker 5: By this September, here we are it's showtime, and so
Speaker 5: you can anticipate there's going to be some important announcements
Speaker 5: associated with that very soon.
Speaker 1: That is quite the tease, and we definitely want to
Speaker 1: have you back on toward the middle of the month
Speaker 1: to really dive into that report and those findings in
Speaker 1: the next steps that are to come. I recall as
Speaker 1: a congressman the number of times doctor Malone, you came
Speaker 1: before our committees and you said, nobody's listening. You brought science,
Speaker 1: you brought facts, and now we're grateful you're in a
Speaker 1: position to serve the public and work to really bring
Speaker 1: a lot of robust policy to the vision that we've
Speaker 1: seen from President Trump and Secretary Kennedy.
Speaker 2: Thanks as always for joining the program.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on, Matt, carry on.
Speaker 1: And the Federal Reserve is in the news, not just
Speaker 1: for interest rates. Looks like mortgage fraud, a lack of transparency,
Speaker 1: and a battle Chairman James Fishback is a finance expert
Speaker 1: who's here to break it all down and explain what
Speaker 1: he's doing to make sure they are held accountable.
Speaker 2: It's all next to the MACA show.
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Speaker 7: If you're going to be in charge of the Federal Reserve,
Speaker 7: damn you better sure know how to fill out a
Speaker 7: mortgage application. And boy, it's awfully weird that she potentially
Speaker 7: saved a lot of money by making so called clerical
Speaker 7: errors with a Jerom Powell. He's got to answer for
Speaker 7: why he's not coming out and saying this is bad.
Speaker 7: He's destroying the credibility to the Fed by not saying
Speaker 7: that mortgage fraud is bad. See, the mortgage market is
Speaker 7: very dependent on the credibility of the Fed, and.
Speaker 2: So it's concerning. That was the hammer.
Speaker 1: Bill Poulti, President Trump's man over at the Federal Housing
Speaker 1: Finance Corporation speaking to reporters about second mortgage fraud criminal
Speaker 1: referrals against the Federal Reserve and battled Governor Lisa Cook.
Speaker 1: We hadn't really heard about mortgage fraud until Poulti started
Speaker 1: looking around. It turns out some of the worst people
Speaker 1: in DC have been accused of telling lies to get
Speaker 1: better subsidized interest rates on second homes. Isn't that just
Speaker 1: an interesting little elitist problem, using lies to get regular
Speaker 1: folks to be backing your lower interest rate that you
Speaker 1: don't deserve on your second home. Federal policy subsidizes lower
Speaker 1: than market rate interest rates for people actually living in
Speaker 1: their home, their homestead. That's probably good public policy because
Speaker 1: people need to have a home. But imagine the nerve
Speaker 1: of Senator Adam Schiff or Attorney General of New York
Speaker 1: Tis James and Fed Governor Lisa Cook for suggesting on
Speaker 1: their paperwork that their home is a residence when it
Speaker 1: in fact is an investment a second home. Most Americans
Speaker 1: here Federal Reserve meeting and imagine something out of a
Speaker 1: sleep apnea study. But it's reasonable to ask, why are
Speaker 1: the most powerful economic decisions in America happening behind closed doors.
Speaker 2: Put it on c span.
Speaker 1: Let us see who yawns, who doodles, and who actually
Speaker 1: knows what a mortgage is. The FED should be turned
Speaker 1: from a smoke filled backroom into primetime reality. Honestly, with
Speaker 1: Powell at the mic and inflation at the door, I'd
Speaker 1: tune in. And when Trump called out Fed Governor Lisa
Speaker 1: Cook over her double dipping mortgage paperwork, our next guest,
Speaker 1: James Fishback, didn't sit back. He didn't just tweet his
Speaker 1: thoughts in prayers. He's a major player in finance, and
Speaker 1: he filed briefs, staked out positions, and showed up in
Speaker 1: court like Perry Mason with a Bloomberg terminal. It's fashionable
Speaker 1: for people in finance to stay in the shadows, quiet rooms,
Speaker 1: glass towers, polite applause at Davos. Fishback missed that memo,
Speaker 1: and let's be honest. This is where it gets fun
Speaker 1: because Fishback isn't just a finance guy. He's a showman.
Speaker 1: He knows that politics is a performance art and he
Speaker 1: plays it with gusto. While most CEOs are worried about
Speaker 1: their LinkedIn headshots, this guy's in federal court filing open
Speaker 1: government access cases, demanding that Powell stop hiding behind mahogany doors.
Speaker 1: Joining us now the CEO of Azoria, James Fishback. James,
Speaker 1: you've been a bulldog going after the lack of transparency,
Speaker 1: and accountability at the Federal Reserve. Where does some of
Speaker 1: your more recent legal filing stand.
Speaker 8: Well, right here, right now, Matt. What we are attempting
Speaker 8: to do is force the Federal Reserve to do something
Speaker 8: they have not done in over half a century, and
Speaker 8: that is to conduct their business in public views. So
Speaker 8: much of why the Fed has gotten things so wrong
Speaker 8: is because they're immune from public debate and criticism.
Speaker 3: Matt.
Speaker 8: The reason why you've been able to call out government
Speaker 8: when it's gone wrong is because you're able to witness
Speaker 8: those government proceedings when they err. And so a natural
Speaker 8: precondition on our First Amendment right to petition our government
Speaker 8: is of course to know what our government is up to.
Speaker 8: And so what we're trying to do now in the
Speaker 8: federal court system in this case that my investment firm
Speaker 8: has brought it's called Azoria v. Powell for Jerome Powell,
Speaker 8: of course, is to force the Federal Reserve into compliance
Speaker 8: with the Sunshine Act of nineteen seventy six. That Act, Matt,
Speaker 8: makes very clear, any multi member federal agency with appointees
Speaker 8: from the President confirmed by the Senate must not a recommendation,
Speaker 8: not a suggestion, must conduct its business in public view.
Speaker 8: If we are successful, the FED will comply and for
Speaker 8: the first time ever, hold its meetings in public.
Speaker 1: I wonder how they've been able to skirt this for
Speaker 1: so long, and what do you think will learn and
Speaker 1: if we get eyeballs on some of those deliberations and discussions.
Speaker 8: Well, the status quo is so damning because think about it.
Speaker 8: They had a meeting in July. At that meeting, there
Speaker 8: were two descents. And that might not sound like a
Speaker 8: lot two descents, three descents, two descents, Matt, is the
Speaker 8: most dissenting votes we've had at a FED meeting since
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety three. And then, to add insult to injury,
Speaker 8: within forty eight hours of that meeting, a third FED
Speaker 8: governor went on to resign without explanation. That was Audreyanic Kuglo.
Speaker 8: That's how we got this vacancy. That President Trump appointed
Speaker 8: Steve Morant, who is going to be a great FED governor.
Speaker 8: Now we think about it, that meeting at the end
Speaker 8: of July, when will we know what was said in
Speaker 8: that meeting. We won't know until July twenty thirty five
Speaker 8: full years, Matt. They will withhold those transcripts from public view.
Speaker 8: Say what you want about progressive school boards and places
Speaker 8: like California and Illinois, at least they have the common
Speaker 8: courtesy of defending that woke nonsense in public. We can
Speaker 8: go up there and call them out for it. We
Speaker 8: don't even know what the Fed's doing, let alone have
Speaker 8: the opportunity to be able to call them out. So
Speaker 8: if we can bring this nonsense into public view, I
Speaker 8: suspect the entire house of cards will fall. The idea
Speaker 8: that for five straight meetings in twenty twenty five since
Speaker 8: President Trump took office, they've refused to raise rates. They
Speaker 8: cut rates by the largest amount in more than four
Speaker 8: years right before the election to throw Kamala Harris a lifeline,
Speaker 8: and now that inflation is not at but below the
Speaker 8: fed's target Matt, they refuse to do nothing because a
Speaker 8: man named Donald J. Trump is in the White House.
Speaker 8: When that meeting comes into public view, their entire rationale,
Speaker 8: which is economically illiterate and deeply Unamerican, begins to fall apart.
Speaker 8: And at that point we can begin to lower rates
Speaker 8: and deliver relief for Americans who have worked so hard.
Speaker 1: It's not just the process you've been critical of, it's
Speaker 1: also the policy outcomes from the FED, as you just
Speaker 1: laid out. So when we think about Fed shair Jerome Powell,
Speaker 1: how do you think he's let the country down?
Speaker 2: And what do you think the fundamental.
Speaker 1: Miscalculation is that he's made to justify not lowering rates
Speaker 1: and giving people more.
Speaker 2: Access to capital.
Speaker 8: Such a great question, because I think we often get
Speaker 8: caught up in the personality of too late this and
Speaker 8: too late that. Let's talk about it from an economic standpoint.
Speaker 8: I spent the last decade trading interest rate derivatives at
Speaker 8: a hedge fund, and so my job, quite literally, Matt,
Speaker 8: was to read everything that Jerome Powell and before him,
Speaker 8: Yellen ever said and to try to estimate what the
Speaker 8: models would say they would do next. What Jerome Powell
Speaker 8: suffers from is this what if disorder? What if the
Speaker 8: tariffs go wrong? What if they trigger second and third
Speaker 8: round inflationary effects. My response to that is very simple.
Speaker 8: The tariffs have been in effect now for eight months
Speaker 8: and there hasn't even been a modicum of evidence that
Speaker 8: they are inflationary, let alone that they're going to trigger
Speaker 8: this inflationary spiral. This is the same guy, Matt, that
Speaker 8: when he was staring at seven eight percent inflation in
Speaker 8: twenty twenty one. In early twenty twenty two, he said,
Speaker 8: what if this is transitory? He gave that the benefit
Speaker 8: of the doubt when clearly it didn't deserve it. What
Speaker 8: President Trump deserves and tariffs deserve, is the benefit of
Speaker 8: the doubt. They've been in effect now for eight months.
Speaker 8: We have inflation that's averaged one point nine percent annualized
Speaker 8: since the President took office. No academic empirical research points
Speaker 8: to inflation contributing to the sort of sustained inflation that
Speaker 8: the FED is trying to combat. Therein lies the issue,
Speaker 8: and so the problem with Powell, really, at the end
Speaker 8: of the day, is an economic one. He thinks that
Speaker 8: keeping rates this high is going to somehow curtail the
Speaker 8: terriff effects, when all they're doing is reducing the housing affordability,
Speaker 8: making it harder for Americans across our home state. Matt,
Speaker 8: you out in Okaloosa County, me and Santa Rosa, and
Speaker 8: me and Madison County. I'm thinking with different counties now
Speaker 8: to think about how we can afford our homes. Look,
Speaker 8: if you can't afford a home, you can't start a family.
Speaker 8: If you can't start a family, you cannot achieve the
Speaker 8: promise of the American dream. And so what Jerome Powell
Speaker 8: was doing at the end of the day is having
Speaker 8: massive downstream societal effects.
Speaker 1: It's so true that the way housing is indext right
Speaker 1: now is shaping American life and people's prospects for a
Speaker 1: human existence in a way that's very detrimental compared to
Speaker 1: our parents and grandparents. There are sources in Washington telling
Speaker 1: me that the FED chair's days may soon.
Speaker 2: Be numbered if that were to happen.
Speaker 1: You know, all the players, Is there a particular profile
Speaker 1: or even a particular individual you're looking at to say,
Speaker 1: that's who I'm rooting for. That's what's going to make
Speaker 1: my investors more money, that's what's going to make the
Speaker 1: country more prosperous.
Speaker 8: Well, Matt, As you know, it's never over until the
Speaker 8: President says it's over, and he has a real knack,
Speaker 8: real instinct for picking these folks out. There are two
Speaker 8: candidates that I really like for this position. I like
Speaker 8: Steve Moran, who's now going to be a FED governor
Speaker 8: with the hopeful grace of the United States, and he
Speaker 8: has a hearing this Thursday. He's been the CEA, the
Speaker 8: Council of Economics chair under the President. I think it's
Speaker 8: Steve Waller, that Chris Waller would be a great choice
Speaker 8: as well. He's a current FED governor. Less keen on him,
Speaker 8: more so on Marie. But I think that the President
Speaker 8: has a really unique opportunity here, not as some in
Speaker 8: the mainstream media want to portray as someone who's going
Speaker 8: to be slavish to the President, but no, someone who's
Speaker 8: going to be focused squarely on the data, focused on
Speaker 8: the data, and the data is clear. Tariffs are not inflationary,
Speaker 8: the inflation problem is solved, and high rates are holding
Speaker 8: back President Trump's golden age, and so on those three fronts,
Speaker 8: it makes sense for the next FED share to really
Speaker 8: go out there. I mean, Matt, I worked at a
Speaker 8: hedge fund, as I said, for ten years, and I
Speaker 8: got calls from the Fed every couple of weeks asking
Speaker 8: me how I was thinking about the interest rate market
Speaker 8: and what was likely to come from the Fed. Matt,
Speaker 8: has the fedever called you or Ginger to ask about
Speaker 8: what you guys think and what's to come for your
Speaker 8: beautiful son's legacy? Congrats again, I'm lucky. The truth is
Speaker 8: that average Americans have zero inputs zero say, zero feedback
Speaker 8: on what the FED is doing. And I'm not saying
Speaker 8: we should turn us into an institution that focuses solely
Speaker 8: on the passions of the public, but at least the
Speaker 8: public should have some buy in, some say, some feedback
Speaker 8: on the awesome responsibilities that the Federal Reserve is endowed with.
Speaker 8: So a chair that shows up in Okaloosa County, in
Speaker 8: Madison County, in Broward County, and counties all across our state,
Speaker 8: in our country, that's the kind of share that President
Speaker 8: Trump should pick. Who can represent folks from all walks
Speaker 8: of life.
Speaker 2: It will certainly be interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a group of people who meet in
Speaker 1: secret who basically decide what everything costs, including where you live,
Speaker 1: the stuff you eat, and James Fishback wants to make
Speaker 1: sure that you at least get to see what the
Speaker 1: deliberative process looks like. CEO of Azuria, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us on the program and keep it
Speaker 1: real down it in Madison County.
Speaker 2: Thanks Matt.
Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll examine what's going on with China and
Speaker 1: the desire to have more Chinese students in the United States.
Speaker 2: Is that a good idea? Is there a way.
Speaker 1: Maybe more Chinese activity at American universities could be to
Speaker 1: the detriment of the Middle Kingdom. I'll discuss it with
Speaker 1: Sam Kluber after a break.
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Speaker 2: China's having a massive military parade that President Putin and Kim.
Speaker 3: John Wan will be attending.
Speaker 5: Do you interpret that as a challenge to this I
Speaker 5: are you've concerned at all about those countries.
Speaker 3: Counterweight? Not at all.
Speaker 7: China needs us, and I have a very good relationship
Speaker 7: with President she is, you know, but China needs us
Speaker 7: much more than we need them China.
Speaker 1: We wonder how America can ever either isolate or battle
Speaker 1: the most populous country on Earth.
Speaker 2: China seeks to dominate the world.
Speaker 1: They bully their neighbors, they provide cheap goods to US customers,
Speaker 1: and President Trump has heroically reset the rules of the
Speaker 1: game on trade with China, and of course, the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court should vindicate President Trump's bold actions by getting rid
Speaker 1: of this lower court decision that is standing in the
Speaker 1: way of American progress and greatness and success.
Speaker 2: America also wants to.
Speaker 1: Win the battle for the future against China, and who
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to. There are people under the age of thirty,
Speaker 1: more of them, more people under the age of thirty
Speaker 1: in China than there are total Americans. So the Trump
Speaker 1: administration faces a challenging question. How do we incentivize young
Speaker 1: people in China to change China for the better while
Speaker 1: also not funding and educating the next generation of talented tyrants.
Speaker 1: Six hundred thousand student visas for Chinese, that's what's being
Speaker 1: considered discussed. The amount that would be considered has oscillated
Speaker 1: at times, and we wanted to learn more about what
Speaker 1: this means for our country and our relationship with the
Speaker 1: Middle Kingdom. Joining us now is one of the board
Speaker 1: members of American Growth and Innovation Forum, Sam Keebler. So, Sam,
Speaker 1: what's your take on the Chinese students in US universities?
Speaker 9: Hey, Matt, great to be with you. And yeah, it's
Speaker 9: quite an interesting news coming out of the administration. I
Speaker 9: think it left a lot of your former colleagues in
Speaker 9: Congress scratching their heads at what the administration plans to
Speaker 9: do here. As you know, President Trump announced that it
Speaker 9: allows six hundred Chinese students to come here and get
Speaker 9: their education here in the US. And you know, I'm
Speaker 9: not sure if that's the right move, but you know,
Speaker 9: I believe it's part of his trade plan with China.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question that this issue of the Chinese
Speaker 1: students has some interplay with these broader economic discussions and
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe even some of the security discussions that
Speaker 1: are always part of the US Sino relationship. What do
Speaker 1: you think is the right number of Chinese students in
Speaker 1: US universities? And if that number is zero, how do
Speaker 1: you win the future of China?
Speaker 9: Sure, as you may know, there's about two hundred and
Speaker 9: fifty thousand Chinese students here in the US right now.
Speaker 9: That's about twenty five percent of the international base here
Speaker 9: in the US. And that's actually down from just over
Speaker 9: I think it was around three hundred thousand plus pre COVID,
Speaker 9: So that number is down, And I'm not sure if
Speaker 9: there's a right number, but I think the right policy
Speaker 9: is making sure we know who is really coming into
Speaker 9: the US and who shvere and who isn't and you
Speaker 9: know who is involved with the CCP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm increasingly concerned about these Confucius institutes that
Speaker 1: we've seen as a center of activity for information gathering,
Speaker 1: for the recruitment of students, for the management of the
Speaker 1: careers of students in a particular areas. That doesn't anure
Speaker 1: to the benefit of the United States. It agnures to
Speaker 1: the benefit of China. But I have a theory, Sam, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it at you. Our universities for the
Speaker 1: most part, have become such cesspools of failure and liberalism
Speaker 1: and wokeism and just counterintuitiveness to progress.
Speaker 2: Let all the Chinese students into them that you want.
Speaker 2: This could be like.
Speaker 1: Our COVID that we give back to them. Send over
Speaker 1: your talented students, China. We will put them in our
Speaker 1: universities that have gone genderless and purple haired and you'll
Speaker 1: get back a bunch of Hello, kiddy freaks. What do
Speaker 1: you think about my plan to combat China with the
Speaker 1: unconventional warfare of our woke and nutty institutions of higher learning?
Speaker 9: You know, Matt, you might be onto something. This could
Speaker 9: be a nice dish back to China. And you know,
Speaker 9: as Secretary of Commerce, Lutnix mentioned that, you know, some
Speaker 9: of these business or some of these universities may go
Speaker 9: out of business without these students. So I think either
Speaker 9: way it's you know, we might come out on top here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was always interesting to me that you're right
Speaker 1: about the donations that like follow the students, right, because
Speaker 1: these universities they charge just absolutely astronomical rates for these
Speaker 1: Chinese students, and then there are donations into the foundations
Speaker 1: of the universities to support it, and then oftentimes the
Speaker 1: US at the universities get to go on their trips
Speaker 1: to China. So it's in some ways a corrupt symbiotic
Speaker 1: relationship between the worst features of American higher ed and
Speaker 1: some of the most concerning parts of China's approach to
Speaker 1: information control.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I couldn't agree more. And you know, here at the
Speaker 9: American growth in an innovation form. I think some of
Speaker 9: the policies we're advocating for is kind of a way
Speaker 9: to move beyond this cess school as you mentioned, from
Speaker 9: international students to promoting American workforce policies. A lot of
Speaker 9: these large US businesses, you know, Amazon, Cisco, AT and T,
Speaker 9: they investing in trades for Americans, and I think we
Speaker 9: should really be focused on Americans first and perhaps look
Speaker 9: outside the box and maybe US universities maybe isn't the
Speaker 9: right the right call.
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see the way higher
Speaker 1: ed changes with democratization to answers right. I mean, people
Speaker 1: had to go to universities for great study before the
Speaker 1: internet because that was the thinking that you had the
Speaker 1: intellectuals and the elites, and proximity mattered. But now beyond
Speaker 1: the Internet into AI where people are able to design
Speaker 1: their own curriculum. Do you think that ten years from
Speaker 1: now colleges will look the.
Speaker 3: Same and maybe obsolete.
Speaker 9: I think it's already We're already sitting that happened now
Speaker 9: for the first time in years. You know, I'm talking
Speaker 9: to you know, niece's nephews that are you know, reconsidering,
Speaker 9: you know, going to college. It's it's the ROI isn't
Speaker 9: there for everyone, and people are asking the right questions.
Speaker 9: So I think in ten years our education system will
Speaker 9: look totally different.
Speaker 1: What do you think brings those powers to be to
Speaker 1: bear in hid?
Speaker 9: Well, you know, it's it's stems all the way from
Speaker 9: the top, and you look at just you know, as
Speaker 9: you mentioned, you look decades, goes back and forth.
Speaker 3: And it just the ROI is not there.
Speaker 9: And I think are our US companies are going to
Speaker 9: be the ones pushing for these changes because ultimately they're
Speaker 9: the ones who are going to get hiring these people.
Speaker 9: And if they can't get the right talent, then you know,
Speaker 9: nature will take its course.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know that a whole lot of Fortune one
Speaker 1: hundred companies are super eager to hire the next person
Speaker 1: with their master's degree and like intersectional gender studies. But
Speaker 1: we'll see, and I think it's a time of great evolution.
Speaker 1: Sam Keebler, thanks as always for coming on the program
Speaker 1: and sharing your expertise.
Speaker 2: Thanks Matt and coming up.
Speaker 1: President Trump gave a big time interview to The Daily Caller.
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Speaker 1: and the policies of the government of Israel and how
Speaker 1: people are thinking about them. We've got the journalist who
Speaker 1: conducted that interview with us in quick moment, don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 1: As the Israel and Gaza conflict continues, questions about America's
Speaker 1: support for Israel and their continued engagement in the conflict
Speaker 1: are at the forefront of a lot of foreign policy
Speaker 1: and political conversations. Over the weekend, The Daily Caller conducted
Speaker 1: in an interview with President Trump on exactly this subject,
Speaker 1: and his view on the matter sent shock waves through
Speaker 1: the internet. He said, the Israel lobby in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Isn't as strong as it once was and is losing
Speaker 1: its grip on Congress. President Trump said Israel needs to
Speaker 1: end the war because it's hurting Israel. Especially in the
Speaker 1: world of public relations and public opinion. We know President
Speaker 1: Trump has been advocating for an end to this conflict
Speaker 1: to bring about peace in the Middle East, But how
Speaker 1: long can Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyah, who withstand this
Speaker 1: continued decline in public sentiment about in Israel. Joining us
Speaker 1: now is Reagan Reese, White House correspondent for The Daily Caller.
Speaker 1: She's the journalist who conducted this incredible interview of President Trump,
Speaker 1: and she joins us now.
Speaker 2: Reagan, thanks for being here.
Speaker 1: Before we get into some of the news that you
Speaker 1: broke in this interview, how was the president How would
Speaker 1: you gauge his spirit and the focus that he brought
Speaker 1: to the discussion.
Speaker 10: Well, I'll say from the second I walked into the
Speaker 10: Oval office, I don't even think I had a step
Speaker 10: in the.
Speaker 11: Door, and the President was ready for me.
Speaker 10: He was energetic, he was jolly, he was excited for
Speaker 10: the interview. And I was so shocked when I woke
Speaker 10: up Saturday morning and people were saying that the President
Speaker 10: was dead because they hadn't seen him in a few
Speaker 10: days because the president that I experienced was a very
Speaker 10: alive President Trump, who was sharp, who was excited, who
Speaker 10: was talking so in depth about so many different things,
Speaker 10: his foreign policy, has, domestic policy. We're going on and
Speaker 10: off the record, and I'll add Matt that he wanted
Speaker 10: to keep the interview going. We hit an hour mark,
Speaker 10: and his staff had told him multiple times, Hey, we
Speaker 10: got to wrap this up. You have other things to
Speaker 10: get to, but he wanted to keep going, and you know,
Speaker 10: eventually he did have to get to the duties of
Speaker 10: being a president that are outside an interview with myself,
Speaker 10: but the president is all as well.
Speaker 11: With President Trump.
Speaker 1: I don't think Joe Biden could have gone an hour
Speaker 1: with like the Huffington Post during his presidency.
Speaker 2: So that's great to hear.
Speaker 1: What were some of the issues that you really saw
Speaker 1: getting the president excited and eager to make more changes
Speaker 1: to save the country.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean we talked a lot about cleaning up
Speaker 10: d C, but also cleaning up Chicago, cleaning up the.
Speaker 11: United States of America.
Speaker 10: I know he wants to go into Chicago immediately, but
Speaker 10: I think he really wants to be invited in by
Speaker 10: the governor. But I asked the President if he would
Speaker 10: be open to reopening insane asylums to help clean up
Speaker 10: the streets of DC, and that was something he floated,
Speaker 10: and he told me about his own personal experience with
Speaker 10: them growing up in New York and how he couldn't
Speaker 10: believe that in New York they closed some of the
Speaker 10: biggest ones and let those patients back out onto the streets,
Speaker 10: and so that was definitely a topic that excited him.
Speaker 10: We talked a lot about the Ukraine and Russia War.
Speaker 10: He brought up over and over again just how I
Speaker 10: think devastated he is by the loss of lives in
Speaker 10: the Ukraine Russia War, and I think he's a little
Speaker 10: bit frustrated that there hasn't been a solution yet, but
Speaker 10: he also remains optimistic that they're going to get something done,
Speaker 10: and he talked a little bit about those security guarantees
Speaker 10: that he's willing to make.
Speaker 11: We talked about Israel and Hamas.
Speaker 10: One thing that I thought was notable about our conversation
Speaker 10: was that he said he doesn't think Israel has the
Speaker 10: influence it has over Congress as it did fifteen years ago,
Speaker 10: and that was something that I think he was very
Speaker 10: disappointed by and he wanted to talk about at length,
Speaker 10: so so many things, but those would say, I would say,
Speaker 10: are the Big Three?
Speaker 1: The big news coming out of a sitting president of
Speaker 1: the United States saying that Israel has seem diminished support
Speaker 1: in Congress certainly is making international international headlines right now.
Speaker 1: Did the President have a basis a belief as to
Speaker 1: why he thought Israel was losing this support in the
Speaker 1: critical governing body of our country.
Speaker 10: Largely what our conversation touched on was he talked about
Speaker 10: how fifteen years ago, if you wanted to run for
Speaker 10: Congress or president, you weren't allowed to criticize Israel. And
Speaker 10: he actually pointed to AOC and the Three as a
Speaker 10: reason why that you're now able to critique Israel, or
Speaker 10: that they're losing strength within Congress. And so, of course
Speaker 10: he talked about his support for Israel. He said he's
Speaker 10: done more for Israel than any other president, and I
Speaker 10: think he.
Speaker 11: Largely is disappointed.
Speaker 10: But what I started my question with was I read
Speaker 10: him some statistics about just America's support for Israel declining,
Speaker 10: as well as young Republicans support for Israel. And you know,
Speaker 10: I think the big question has been does the President
Speaker 10: know that his base is starting to break on this,
Speaker 10: and he said, yes, I'm very aware, and then he
Speaker 10: pointed to the factors that I just named.
Speaker 1: I wonder what you're sensing at the Daily Caller around that.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you see your viewers becoming
Speaker 1: more willing to criticize some of the decisions of the
Speaker 1: government of Israel than maybe we were used to in
Speaker 1: previous iterations of Republican politics.
Speaker 10: Well, to answer that question, when I look at the
Speaker 10: Daily Caller base, it is all Trump supporters and Trump loyalists,
Speaker 10: and I've started to see some of those big Trump
Speaker 10: loyalists who are starting to break with their support of Israel, MTG.
Speaker 11: Steve Bannon, etc.
Speaker 10: And so that was kind of what started to inspire
Speaker 10: the question was, you know, what's going on here? Where
Speaker 10: are we seeing this break? And so I think it's
Speaker 10: something that's becoming more popular within the base. I think
Speaker 10: largely it's still the unpopular position, but it's definitely something
Speaker 10: that's starting to creep up, and Republicans aren't afraid to
Speaker 10: voice their frustration anymore.
Speaker 1: None on this program are, particularly We don't agree Reagan Reese.
Speaker 1: It was a tremendous interview. I encourage all of our
Speaker 1: viewers go check it out at the Daily Caller. She
Speaker 1: will take you from the global affairs, to the changes
Speaker 1: in our economy here in the United States, to even
Speaker 1: President Trump's views on insane asylums. Congrats on the get
Speaker 1: and we hope you'll come back and share more of
Speaker 1: your trip journalism with us soon.
Speaker 11: Thanks so much, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: College football season is upon us, and seek one had
Speaker 1: some just incredible storylines. Taylor Swift showed up at Nebraska's
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Speaker 1: One guy in the stands even said I never thought
Speaker 1: I'd see a day Nebraska actually scored this early NFL
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame coach Bill Belichick has returned to the
Speaker 1: college ranks, and not just for tinder matches these days.
Speaker 1: His debut at UNC when so badly fans joked his
Speaker 1: girlfriend should have been calling the plays because at least
Speaker 1: she knows how to handle freshman mistakes. The Bengal Tigers
Speaker 1: of LSU roared past the Clemson Tigers, Osa Ohio State
Speaker 1: had a signature win over the Longhorns in Texas. The
Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes flew past the fighting Irish of Notre Dame
Speaker 1: thanks to Carson Beck, the former Georgia quarterback who earned
Speaker 1: a healthy four million dollar payout for taking his talents
Speaker 1: to South Beach in his final year. We will cover
Speaker 1: nil and how it's impacting sports and sports financing in
Speaker 1: future programs, but The big news of the weekend came
Speaker 1: from Tallahassee, Florida, where wh i alma mater, Florida State
Speaker 1: University took on college football royalty and won big. Alabama
Speaker 1: has been the bully of college football for years under
Speaker 1: their legendary coach Nick Saban. He retired, and now the
Speaker 1: Crimson Tide seems to be on an outflow. Florida State
Speaker 1: beating Alabama in Week one is truly poetic.
Speaker 2: Let me paint the picture for you.
Speaker 1: During the twenty twenty three college football regular season, FSU
Speaker 1: went undefeated thirteen to zero. Won every game in the
Speaker 1: regular season, but during one of the final games, their quarterback,
Speaker 1: Jordan Travis, broke his leg.
Speaker 2: So the NCAA, the.
Speaker 1: Adults in the room, the people who pick when the
Speaker 1: kids get to play, and not play for championships, they
Speaker 1: replaced the undefeated Florida State University team in the playoffs
Speaker 1: with Alabama, a team that had lost a game, a
Speaker 1: team that wasn't undefeated. This infuriated the Sunshine State Senator
Speaker 1: Rick Scott even called for an investigation, but it seems
Speaker 1: revenge is a dish best served cold. Here in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, nobody expected the knowles to deliver a beat
Speaker 1: down to Bama so dominant it makes President Trump's debate
Speaker 1: against Biden look close. The Seminoles ultimately prevailed by a
Speaker 1: score of thirty one to seventeen. We hear in Tuscaloosa
Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure out if thirty one is
Speaker 1: greater than seventeen.
Speaker 4: Go Noles.
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