WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:00.800 They lost in the end. 2 00:00:01.120 --> 00:00:02.879 I don't think got killed by Kansas. I think he 3 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:05.839 got beat by Kansas, but not killed. Well, it's so 4 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:08.880 they've lost you, but they're they're good in a different 5 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:12.960 duke team because because of the kid right uh forget 6 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:16.160 his name now, Cooper Flag, they shut him down and 7 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:19.719 that one game they lost. Yeah yeah, so so but 8 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:21.480 he's he's good. So is the other kid who can 9 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:25.199 the freshman who shoots it. Right, so watch out, watch out. 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:26.679 It's a different duke team. 11 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:30.920 Oh it is. And then Kentucky. No, no, no, that's 12 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:31.800 what No, this is what we do. 13 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:34.520 We brings up the subject and we bring in the conversation. 14 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:39.920 Go ahead, creating upsets number one Kansas seventy six sixty three. 15 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:44.359 C Yeah, yeah, which that was kind of a throwaway game, 16 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:44.799 right you think. 17 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:45.840 Okay, yeah, but. 18 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:49.960 Cretan's always Creton's always good. When they're at home, they're top. 19 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:51.679 So when you make your picks, and you don't have 20 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:55.200 to tell me any secrets that factors in home court, 21 00:00:55.399 --> 00:01:00.000 home field points, all that stuff, because people don't understand 22 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:01.880 how difficult it is to win on the road in anything. 23 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:03.759 No, I would agree with that for sure. 24 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:07.760 Yeah, you know, you know, like tonight, I mean the 25 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:12.439 Green May Packers at Detroit. You think what I think? 26 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:16.519 Green Bay is gonna stay close. But here's the lock 27 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:19.480 of the day on the show. If you take a teaser, 28 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:22.599 you're gonna take Green Bay plus nine, and you're gonna 29 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:24.920 take the over which is fifty one, and take it 30 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:29.599 down to forty four forty five. No, you gets in 31 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:30.079 a teaser? 32 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:30.799 You got yah? 33 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:33.799 Yeah, yeah, Okay, So that's that's the lot of the day. Okay, 34 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:35.560 what's the line three? 35 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:38.640 The Lions are three? So you get the Packers to nine? 36 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:39.760 You got six six? 37 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.760 More so nine nine and under at forty over at forty. 38 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:46.959 Six, well, fifty one, forty five, forty five over right. 39 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:49.400 I'm not gonna take your advice, but I get it. 40 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:51.640 It's a good one. It's a good one. Nine points 41 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:52.599 nine point. That's a lot of. 42 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:57.040 Points for a team that plays close. The Lions could 43 00:01:57.079 --> 00:01:58.200 have lost the Bears on. 44 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:00.920 Things there, but they're probably the best team in the 45 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:01.959 in the NFC. 46 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:05.000 Wow. Wow. 47 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:08.639 We'll debate that at a future time because I think 48 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:09.840 those are definitely two teams. 49 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:12.599 I like Detroit a lot. We're just built different. 50 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:12.800 Now. 51 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:17.039 I like Dan Campbell, you talk about attitude. 52 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:19.960 Yeah, he's tough and that's how they play, right, No, 53 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:22.199 they definitely do. That's how you play. And to me, 54 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:25.879 that's how it's like, Brett, I don't know that. Well, 55 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:30.080 Brent Bennon, you just wish that he had some of that, right. 56 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:31.919 And if you are who you are, Mike, you're a 57 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:34.120 good guy. You're not gonna be a pain in the 58 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:35.879 neck because you don't know how to be a pain 59 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:36.280 in the neck. 60 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:36.560 Right. 61 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:39.719 And And in fact, I got a text about five 62 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:42.439 minutes ago, and I'll bring that up after your breaking news. 63 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.960 Brett Brennan to replace all three coordinators. Babers is gone, 64 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:50.240 a Quina and Gonzalez will have new rules. 65 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:52.879 Right, And we don't know if and Brad said maybe 66 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.479 maybe the guy from New Mexico. 67 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:58.879 It's you just said. 68 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:04.120 It might become the defensive coordinat He wouldn't say that's 69 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:06.319 gonna happen, but he's looking at all possibility. 70 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:08.199 Well, when you're recruiting, though, you better come up with 71 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.960 definitive answers. Sure, because kids are playing, they're making decisions 72 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:13.120 based on who they're playing. 73 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:16.240 Front, no position group. So let me ask you how important. 74 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:20.000 So you had Murphy and you had, you know, great managers. 75 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:22.520 I'm sure you didn't have great managers. But how much 76 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:26.400 would the other the coaches involved, not as much in 77 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:31.800 baseball the pitching coach, but the hitting coach. I think 78 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:35.319 in the minor leagues the managers taking a big part 79 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:35.759 of that role. 80 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:39.120 And how how active is he in that role? Like what, oh, 81 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:42.680 he's not, he's just not a game manager. He's very active. 82 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:47.000 He's he's involved. I mean, you know in baseball, you've 83 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:49.159 covered it. You know, you got batting practice every day. 84 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:52.240 He's on the cage, he's talking the hitters. He's you know, 85 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:58.759 because he has instructions from the top. Sometimes usually in 86 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:02.120 the minor leagues, the managers who are getting told what 87 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:03.960 to do all the time, they're not winning. 88 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:08.560 Sorry, because they're not managing the way they you know, 89 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:12.199 the in the big leagues, the big league personnel people 90 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:15.759 that they're just trying to get somebody ready and and 91 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:17.920 it's you know, it's and who you play and who 92 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:18.800 you don't play. 93 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:22.240 And you might not play the gamer, you might play 94 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:26.279 the prospect. And that's always because. 95 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:27.959 Those are instructions for you to do. Right. 96 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.480 Yeah, I'll have something for you after this too. 97 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:33.639 Tam mac has made the Big Twelve first team and 98 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:35.759 Diacario Davis has made the second team. 99 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:36.439 Well. 100 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:43.800 Offensive lineman, lineman Jonas Avalia, defensive back Dalton Johnson, and 101 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.560 kicker Tyler Loop were honorable mentioned choices. 102 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:48.240 Yeah, the first thing that struck me out was, of 103 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:53.000 course Team AC first team, right, Okay, Davis him and 104 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:54.920 so many and all these guys. 105 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:56.839 Okay, but then you see Loop. 106 00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:00.560 What I don't mention anybody who watches all year and 107 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:04.319 watched Tyler Luke kick if he's not the best kicker 108 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:05.720 in the Big twelve or something wrong. 109 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:08.800 Yeah, well there's something wrong with that. Other dude's pretty 110 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.199 darn good. I guess I haven't been paying attention to 111 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.720 the kickers, but you know, because we knew what Luke. 112 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:16.360 Did and it has done. When he kicked that sixty 113 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.759 two yard or at the end of the halftime. 114 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:20.279 I was was it on the other side of you, 115 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.680 with the same side It was the other side. 116 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:24.480 We'll so you didn't get you and you just go, 117 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:25.079 oh my god. 118 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:28.480 Well, for us, the Sands club is in the northern 119 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:31.319 end zone and when the balls at the other end, 120 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:35.160 I'm watching the big screen, the scoreboard. More so than 121 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:38.199 I am watching the field, but I also have old eyes, 122 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:40.240 So you have to right. 123 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:42.120 TJ. 124 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:44.800 McConnell to enter the UFA Basketball Ring of Honor. 125 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:45.199 I like that. 126 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:51.319 Yeah, In fact, I put it on Facebook. He's been 127 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:53.879 the most popular player. I'm not going to go out 128 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:55.720 on a limb here. He's making a big money right 129 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:58.279 in the last ten years, ten to twenty years, maybe 130 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:00.240 just because of who he was and how he was, 131 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:03.959 how he acted. Well, you talk about tough guys, Yeah, 132 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.920 his definition, no question, no question. 133 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:09.360 You know he comes off the bench, I'll get dirty, 134 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:11.759 even though get floor burns. 135 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.480 Yeah, who need ten dudes of the if I want 136 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.000 to have him as is the guy now? 137 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:18.319 It was on pretty damn good. 138 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:22.600 Right, and later on I actually printed the list of 139 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:24.480 the people in the Ring of Honor at the UFA 140 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:26.079 Basketball which you know many. 141 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:28.680 I don't know if we have time now, but we'll 142 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:29.120 talk about it. 143 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:31.000 We'll talk about the final break in the final break, 144 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:32.120 unless we have more time here. 145 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:36.000 Seventy two year old Bill Belichick has interviewed with the 146 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:39.360 University of North Carolina regarding its head coaching vacancy. 147 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:41.639 I know you're not calling in a day there, Mike, 148 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.759 but at some point the end game has to come in. 149 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:47.680 And when you say, okay, I've had enough side of 150 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.439 olah blah blah blah, obviously that's not the case that 151 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:53.279 with a seventy two year old you know what I'm saying, you. 152 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:54.879 Have to He didn't even get a sniff in the 153 00:06:54.959 --> 00:07:00.319 NFL last year. I mean, somebody knows something right, right. 154 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:03.360 But when we were talking or break, I think he's 155 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:06.439 doing a tremendous job in the media, you know, on 156 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:10.240 the broadcast. Yeah, and the jobs he's doing, he's he's 157 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:14.480 shown me a lot more personality than Nick Saban has 158 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.160 also done the same. I mean Nick Saban offers opinions 159 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:21.319 on game day. Sure, he's very good, Yeah, very good. 160 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:24.680 He's not just selling duck. You always worry, could I say, 161 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:27.560 pissed off on the air? Yeah, okay, I just did so. Sorry, 162 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:31.079 But you're always worried about those type of coaches. Are 163 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.519 they going to really irritate somebody with what they say? 164 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:36.360 And they're afraid are you talking on media? Are a 165 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:40.680 media member well a Belichick or a Saban because they 166 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:43.639 know so many people that they've been side by side with. 167 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:46.800 Are they afraid to criticize. 168 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.839 Oh, yeah, have you Saban has to like whom I 169 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:54.000 don't remember who it was, but he would just talk 170 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:57.439 about he didn't like the way they did certain things, 171 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:00.639 and and Belichick's great. Have you ever watched Belichick with 172 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.240 the Manning and the Manning cast. No, I've watched him 173 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.959 on McAfee on Mondays. He'll say some things there. He'll 174 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:09.360 definitely say some things there. 175 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:12.600 And if you've never watched the Manning cast, it's it's 176 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:17.279 I'm sorry, it's Peyton Manning and Eli Manning on the 177 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:20.759 same time as the Monday night broadcast. And it's crazy, 178 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:23.759 but they offer great opinions. 179 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:29.319 UCLA firing O c Eric b Enemy after just one season. 180 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:32.120 Yeah, the agent for the Enemy said this was planned 181 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:35.559 because he plans on getting back to the NFL. Well, 182 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:37.440 he didn't do a good job, but then at the 183 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.120 college level there are one hundred and fifteenth in scoring. Well, 184 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:44.159 the Sean Foster, you know, I'm not sure what kind 185 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:46.000 of job he did either. You know, you bring a 186 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.360 guy in with no coaching experience. Let me ask you this, 187 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:51.200 because we talked about this all week and I even 188 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:54.240 wrote about this on Saturday after the game with a issue. 189 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:57.519 I was told by some people or a person. I 190 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:02.000 will say, people that issues that this was the worst coach, 191 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:06.519 football game, football team they faced all year. And then 192 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:08.360 I and I didn't write it by someone told me 193 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:11.200 them obviously going on the air with it. H two 194 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:15.159 that and you know this because you know them. How 195 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:18.200 many good guys good guys are very good coaches. 196 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:22.440 I think some give me a couple of names. No, 197 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:25.320 I'd have to think about it, but I mean, you 198 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:28.639 gotta be you got to be the boss, you got 199 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:29.799 to be the watch. Let me say, I'll give you 200 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:33.320 one name. But this is different though. Steve Kerr, we 201 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:36.559 know him to be. But the dude is a competitor 202 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:37.960 underneath all that stuff. 203 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:42.039 You ain't gonna give him a stuff because he's a 204 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:44.159 competitor and he's going to give it to you like 205 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:47.759 you like you need it right right. That's the only 206 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:49.600 one that I can think of as a good guy. 207 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:52.360 But he has And we know Louke. We knew lout 208 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:53.840 for a long time. I knew him for a long time. 209 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:58.519 But the dude demanded, he demanded, or you didn't play. 210 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.679 He had a little that Bobby Knight in him, in 211 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:04.279 the sense that the best remedy for poor play. 212 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.200 Is the bench is the bench? 213 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:08.679 You know he didn't have to go and say he 214 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:10.840 said it, but he didn't have to go throw chairs 215 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:11.519 and all that about it. 216 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:15.320 Right, you know we knew him, Okay, j Lewis found 217 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:15.799 that spot. 218 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:19.159 Yeah that was being stupid. 219 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:23.240 Yeah, you had to do that for me. When a 220 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:29.759 player gets the technical, it's selfish. Yeah, and you know, 221 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:34.240 okay the guy pushed me. So what I mean, man, 222 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:40.000 I mean just technical technicals. Technicals happen, you know, technicals 223 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:41.559 happen when you're complaining about a call. 224 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:43.879 But but stupid things with. 225 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:48.639 Little skirmishes, there's no excuse when stir down stuff like that, right, Yeah, 226 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.120 Well the good thing is that he he did that. 227 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:54.120 Tommy isn't known for doing that. He's got to put 228 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:56.360 his foot down. I mean, I have a thing. I'll 229 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:58.840 tell you the text I got earlier. Go ahead. 230 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:03.240 Spreaking news of the day. Eagles running back Saquon Barkley 231 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.080 and Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow highlight November's Players of the Month. 232 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:10.279 Yeah he should be the I'm sorry the m v P. 233 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:12.240 I'm tired of quarterbacks getting the m v P. S 234 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:17.440 uh for what Saquon Barkley has done for that team. Uh, 235 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:21.440 what's your fascination with Philadelphia? I just think they're tough. 236 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:26.720 I love, uh, you know, just their toughness on both 237 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:28.639 sides of the of the ball, you know, on their 238 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:30.960 line and and you know, they they. 239 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:34.440 Built themselves to a lot of Georgia players, and and 240 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:37.600 you know, and and Hurts does a good job. 241 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:40.039 But I think Barkley has made them a very very 242 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:41.200 good team, no question. 243 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.519 I mean, if he was a throwaway, I mean kind 244 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:44.600 of Giants. 245 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:46.840 You know, the Giants are stupid not to re sign. 246 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:49.639 The Giants can prove to you how fast it does 247 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:54.240 the tear team down. But it's you know, Barkley. If 248 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:57.559 you're watching a game the third and fourth quarter, he's 249 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:01.639 taking it over because he's so physically strong, right Uh. 250 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:06.320 And that's why I think they're Their defense would stunk 251 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:08.960 last year, has become very good this year. 252 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:09.279 Yeah. 253 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:11.399 Well, I still think the Lions are the better team. 254 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.080 But I won't disagree with your Philadelphia team because who 255 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:17.759 they beat last week? Baltimore who they beatmore And I 256 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:21.080 think Baltimore is a heck of a good team in Baltimore. Yeah, yeah, 257 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:24.080 Baltimore can this time they always start to fade. So 258 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:28.799 we'll see NFC case Buffalo, Buffalo's looking I don't think. 259 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:31.799 I don't think case. No, they haven't finished line this year. 260 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.080 They haven't. They haven't done much this year. If that's 261 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:37.240 a well, we'll see. We'll see because it's their case. 262 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:40.159 But I agree with you too, Okay, anything else, Okay, 263 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:42.480 So I got I got a text here at the 264 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:45.639 beginning of this hour from someone who I trust in, 265 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:48.840 someone who uh listens to the show and I talked 266 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:49.480 to every now and again. 267 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:50.759 One of the problems. 268 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.679 After hearing John call and and and and Brad talk, 269 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.200 he says, one of the problems we have this year 270 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.679 is that Tommy has never been in this situation before 271 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.679 in Arizona. Over the last four years, he's dominated preseason 272 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:06.279 and pretty much regular season, So we don't really know 273 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:09.440 if he can coach from adversity and get us back 274 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:14.440 on track. To be fair, that's true, but I'd rather 275 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.480 have it the other way, when you do really well, 276 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.639 really well, really well, and then you figure out what 277 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:19.000 to do. 278 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:21.960 But we'll see if he can handle this. I think 279 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:25.720 he's the guy that they can handle it. I mean, 280 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:28.919 you know, I just think he's he's going to figure 281 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:31.360 it out, and he's not afraid to admit that maybe 282 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:32.679 he needs to do things differently. 283 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:34.679 He's not cookie cutter. 284 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:39.799 No, And and some of it's on the players as well, 285 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:44.440 no question, you know they You know, I saw Caleb 286 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:48.240 Love act like a little baby, you know, a few 287 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:48.720 games ago. 288 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:50.799 Oh it was, was it the Wisconsin game? 289 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:52.879 I don't I don't remember which game was, but he's 290 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:55.039 he's not hustling a defense. 291 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:58.279 Maybe one of those games. There's no excuse for that. 292 00:13:58.360 --> 00:13:59.919 So let me ask you this, Mike, because you've been 293 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:02.600 on askeletes like this too, and you know the babies 294 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:04.600 or the By the way, the worst times of my 295 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:07.600 life covering events were the toros when I first got here, 296 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:11.039 because Triple A was not easy. For the reason you say, 297 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.279 guys are coming down. They don't want to be down. 298 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:15.000 Guys want to go up. But the guys coming down 299 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:18.200 are really pissed. They they're disgruntled, you know, all that stuff, 300 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.039 and asking for interviews is the last thing they want 301 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:23.360 to do. And and some of them have names, and 302 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:25.039 you know how with you, kid, I don't need to 303 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.279 talk to you, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And 304 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:29.440 you probably have heard that a few times. I'll tell 305 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:32.639 you the nineteen ninety one two Son Toros. Yeah, and 306 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:35.120 people like John might have been around then. 307 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:35.879 Uh. 308 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:40.120 It was the first championship ever pc O championship in Tucson, 309 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:46.080 and Bob Skinner was our manager. Bob Skinner was an 310 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:49.960 old grizzled vest great guy managing the big leagues. Great Briar, 311 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:53.519 you know Briar to come in here was kind of 312 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:55.799 finishing it up. Brent S Drama was a pitching coach. 313 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:00.360 We had just a bunch of tough guys on that team. Oh, 314 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:02.320 by the way, we had a guy nam Kenny Lawton. 315 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:03.919 And that's what brought you a lot of fans. 316 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:07.559 But but you know Joe Micklick and Trent Harbard and 317 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.799 Mike Brumley, they roady. I mean, those are guys that 318 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:14.279 weren't stars when they went on to the big leagues, 319 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.240 but they knew what it took to win games. 320 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:19.960 And that team was so much fun for me to 321 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:20.360 be around. 322 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:20.559 Ye. 323 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:23.120 No, winning and winning helps a lot of that. Now. 324 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:27.360 I will also tell you I've had a team in Jackson, Mississippi. 325 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:28.399 Some of those names. 326 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.759 Three number one picks in the outfield, one was named 327 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:35.320 Darryl Strawberry, the other was named Terry Blocker, and the 328 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:37.320 third one was somebody you don't know as a major 329 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:43.000 leaguer necessarily was Billy Bean. That team didn't win, but 330 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:45.639 they were all young, you know, straw was eighteen years 331 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.080 old and they were babies. 332 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:50.440 But they were studs. 333 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:53.679 I mean you could tell they were physically gifted athletes, 334 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:56.080 but didn't necessarily win games. 335 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:58.320 So this is not for you to analyze. I'm just 336 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:01.320 gonna throw this out there. So had or we saw 337 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:05.919 not we but Arizona. But we watched Caleb Love declare, 338 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:11.799 Jaden declare, kJ declared there might have been another one 339 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:12.600 out there or whatever. 340 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:12.840 You know. 341 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:18.120 Johnson left and so did. So you have people who aspire, 342 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:21.919 aspire to go to the next level and think do 343 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:24.159 you think? And I've witnessed it in the past under 344 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:27.480 Loots teams in fact, that there's only one ball, and 345 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:31.039 there's people who think about what about me? What about mine? 346 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.600 How am I going to get mine? That that could 347 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:34.320 be a problem to. 348 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:36.279 Could be and not without a question. 349 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:41.000 I mean, uh, my Son will also say Caleb Love 350 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:45.679 coming back cost us two stud yes, recruits, Yes, one 351 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.360 that an issue? Five star recruits. Now, are they doing anything. 352 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:52.279 I don't know. Yes, the kind of issue is very well, 353 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:57.600 but you know, but whether that's true or not, who knows. 354 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:02.639 But you don't tell Caleb Love can't come back if 355 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:05.720 he's part of your team. But there's some people that 356 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:08.599 will say, you know that that was a big part 357 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:11.440 of this year. Loosen those two and you know, two 358 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:15.559 big incoming freshmen that were both highly highly acclaimed. 359 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.680 Well, you're gambling to you're gambling for the future with 360 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:21.000 the president, right, So we'll see what happens. 361 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:22.960 We don't know what's gonna happen to, you know. 362 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:26.720 And I my personal opinion, I still do like this team, 363 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:29.079 and I still think this team is going to achieve 364 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:29.359 a lot. 365 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:30.920 We'll go, we'll come back to that. 366 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.039 We're gonna take a break and to get Tom Denihey 367 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:38.920 on the other side, Hey, welcome back to My the 368 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.960 Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera 369 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:45.640 and with me today is Mike Fader, and working with 370 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:49.000 me is mister Kobe. And now on the phone we 371 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.440 have Tom Denighy, a longtime sports columnist or columnists for 372 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.519 newspapers in this town and now just a recent name 373 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.960 in the name inside the Pima County Sports Hall of Fame. Congratulations. 374 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:05.079 Yeah, it's just a longevity thing, dude. It was so 375 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:07.160 long they hit they were running out of name because 376 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:09.240 like it's like when the Rock and Roll Hall of 377 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:11.119 Fame put in depesh mode, you know. 378 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:14.400 Okay, Tom, That's why I was put in the Hall 379 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:16.960 of Fame as well for that reason. Now we haven't 380 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:19.160 had a baseball guy locally, so we need to get 381 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:20.160 Mic in there. 382 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:21.799 Now. 383 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:23.960 You deserve it, dude. I remember how hard you used 384 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.079 to work. I used to sit up there in that 385 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:28.960 press box of the Toros games and you were a 386 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:31.519 worling derbage of energy. 387 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:35.440 The funny thing is, and not to go off topic, 388 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:40.920 but the Toros games were fun. The Toros games were family. 389 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:42.920 They were local. 390 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:46.599 Once the team moved a twoson Electric Park, it lost 391 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:47.400 all of its charm. 392 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:53.640 I agree it. Toros games were always fun and they 393 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:56.279 were just and you get ten thousand people there. 394 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:57.920 Right, Well, that that's what was funny. 395 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:01.279 Last year when when Arizona through the big crowd in 396 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:05.440 the whether it's a PAC twelve tournament or or the regional, Oh, 397 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:08.160 it's the biggest crowd ever in the history of High 398 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.160 Corbett Field, and I'm just sitting there laughing and telling 399 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:14.079 my wife We've had crowds of ten thousand plus where 400 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:15.119 we put people now for. 401 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.359