Speaker 1: Now, Hi, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this rather
Speaker 1: somber Friday afternoon in the Triesdate Reds Baseball kicks off
Speaker 1: about six oh five to night, tough series and hot Land.
Speaker 1: They're in Houston, of course to play the astronomical see
Speaker 1: what happens down there. But today's all about the funeral
Speaker 1: of WT. Larry Henderson and the things he did for
Speaker 1: our country and many. It is part of the tradition
Speaker 1: to have maybe a policeman or a constable, or a
Speaker 1: sheriff or someone from every state in the Union, and
Speaker 1: turnout for Larry has been unbelievable. The services are ongoing
Speaker 1: now as I speak, with a funeral in spring Grove
Speaker 1: later on this afternoon. But joining you and I now
Speaker 1: is the Richard K. Jones, the Sheriff of Butler County.
Speaker 1: And first of all, before we get to the kindness
Speaker 1: that you displayed in providing apparatuss for the funeral, including
Speaker 1: the case on and the ride of his horse, et cetera,
Speaker 1: what special concern do you have in today's world that
Speaker 1: you cannot be involved in an incident, but you're targeted
Speaker 1: because of the uniform you wear for death. It is
Speaker 1: something different about this one than all the other ones.
Speaker 2: Listen, the whole world is upside down and the United
Speaker 2: States and it's people are full of hate, people that
Speaker 2: weren't full of hate before or more full of hate today,
Speaker 2: and we have its generational hate. People in college have
Speaker 2: been taught to hate and just over just about anything.
Speaker 2: And when you have a deputy sheriff directing traffic at
Speaker 2: a fun event, this is where people are graduating that
Speaker 2: you see and you're directing traffic and you are targeted
Speaker 2: to be murdered, it's it's unbelievable. It's a cowardice thing
Speaker 2: to do. And to pick somebody at random that's in
Speaker 2: front of you and murder them with your vehicle.
Speaker 3: It's disgusting.
Speaker 2: And because of that, we're having to mourn a hero's
Speaker 2: death and law enforcement and then the communities all over
Speaker 2: the United States, all over the state of Ohio, the
Speaker 2: flags are at half mask and we're all sticking together
Speaker 2: and he's going to be put out like the hero
Speaker 2: that he is, but it doesn't make his family. They're
Speaker 2: going to be missing somebody at their table. They're going
Speaker 2: to be missing somebody that's fun, that's gave their entire
Speaker 2: life to protecting the community by a cowardice act.
Speaker 1: You know, you know yesterday when I watched the news
Speaker 1: conference at Connie Pillah, I said to others that this
Speaker 1: is a defining moment in a new prosecutor's life, and
Speaker 1: that is if you don't provide the death penalty for
Speaker 1: someone like Rodney Hinton Junior, thirty eight years old. If
Speaker 1: this case is not the death penalty, you don't have
Speaker 1: a death penalty in Ohio, like in Clairemont County when
Speaker 1: that one young father brutally and cold blood murdered his
Speaker 1: own three little boys, and that prosecutor decided not to
Speaker 1: seek the death penalty because it was difficult. So well,
Speaker 1: Clairemont County doesn't have a death penalty. If that guy
Speaker 1: didn't get the death penalty, there can't be one. Would
Speaker 1: you agree that if we have a death penalty, the
Speaker 1: person who in cold blood brutally murdered, murdered Larry Henderson
Speaker 1: as obviously should get the death If this doesn't happen
Speaker 1: in this case, we don't have a death penalty.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. We do not have a death
Speaker 2: penalty at that point. And this is a brand new
Speaker 2: prosecutor and uh, we've got to do what we've got
Speaker 2: to do to protect law enforcement. Without safety and without
Speaker 2: security in our lives, we have nothing. And I've told
Speaker 2: you before, in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, there's like ten
Speaker 2: of them, fifteen of them. Air food safety is at
Speaker 2: the very top. And we've got to feel safe in
Speaker 2: our community. And when this happens, we've got to do
Speaker 2: what we have to send a message. If you murder
Speaker 2: police officers, if you murder law enforcement, you will be
Speaker 2: punished appropriately and I mean appropriately.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about what Butler County did for Larry Henderson.
Speaker 1: This is a great gift that you're giving. Explain the
Speaker 1: riderless horse and what you're providing to Hamilton County.
Speaker 2: Basically, the cason is if you look up Kaison, it's
Speaker 2: a carriage that was yearsed during the Civil War. They
Speaker 2: carried cannons on them and there were so many people
Speaker 2: killed they had to move the bodies. So they took
Speaker 2: the cannons off of the carriages that were pulled with
Speaker 2: horses and they put the bodies on the casson. And
Speaker 2: then after that they developed funerals of heroes that were
Speaker 2: killed in action and they would use the actual caissons
Speaker 2: to pull with the horses with the casket, the flag
Speaker 2: draped casket, and if you look online you'll see where
Speaker 2: they've done. The President of the United States, the President Kennedy,
Speaker 2: other law enforcement people that have been murdered, died in
Speaker 2: the line of duty. They have a cason that pulls that.
Speaker 2: We have a truck we buried over thirty two I
Speaker 2: believe it is at thirty three countin Larry. Their names
Speaker 2: are on the back of our semi truck that hauls
Speaker 2: the cason the horses. We've used it for the past
Speaker 2: twenty five years and we've buried soldiers from Iraq, Afghanistan,
Speaker 2: soldier that came back from World War II and they've
Speaker 2: just recovered their bodies. We've buried police officers, law enforcement
Speaker 2: different states. And this is a piece equipment was made
Speaker 2: twenty five years ago through donations. It was forty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars and it was all donations made by off of
Speaker 2: a replica a person that makes replica equipment.
Speaker 3: That are for.
Speaker 2: Civil war reenactments or war reenactments. This blueprint was actually received.
Speaker 2: We got the blueprint from the Pentagon from actual kasons
Speaker 2: that were used in the Civil War, there was blueprints
Speaker 2: and it's specifically made right off of that. The kaisons
Speaker 2: that you see that they use at Arlington Cemetery are
Speaker 2: actual kaissons from the Civil War, but this one is
Speaker 2: made off of the blueprints. It's the most honorable way
Speaker 2: that you can be honored. When the horses are pulling
Speaker 2: the caison, there's a riderless horse, usually behind the cason
Speaker 2: that signifies that an officer or someone has died that
Speaker 2: is being pulled by the cason, And on the riderless horse,
Speaker 2: the boots are put on the horse backwards, I meaning
Speaker 2: there's no rider on the horse. When you see this,
Speaker 2: there will not be a dry eye anywhere. It's very somber,
Speaker 2: it's very well done, and it makes you so proud
Speaker 2: that we honor people that have risked their lives for
Speaker 2: us every single day. And we're honored that Hamilton County
Speaker 2: has asked us to help with us. We buried one
Speaker 2: or two police officers in Cincinnati with the and it's
Speaker 2: an honor for us to be asked to help with
Speaker 2: what they've got going on, and it's we're just honored
Speaker 2: to be asked to be a small part of this.
Speaker 1: Sheriff when I had on his criminal defense attorney, but
Speaker 1: I'm referring to it Rodney Hinton Junior's thirty eight I
Speaker 1: had on Clyde Bennett criminal defense attorney. He was discussing
Speaker 1: the unnecessary aspects of the shooting. And as a sheriff,
Speaker 1: as a law enforcement official for about thirty five years,
Speaker 1: when you tell your men a shoot don't shoot, which
Speaker 1: are scenarios? And I've gone through a shoot don't shoot
Speaker 1: scenario and I didn't do very well. You have a
Speaker 1: split second decision to take someone's life or to be
Speaker 1: shot yourself or others. In this case, the four young
Speaker 1: young men eighteen years old, according to media accounts, heisted
Speaker 1: a Kia from Edgewood, Kentucky and Ken County, and they
Speaker 1: brought it somehow over to Hambleton County, and they wanted
Speaker 1: to be in an area up on East Price Hill
Speaker 1: with a condo project. They could be by themselves, one
Speaker 1: way in, one way out. They went into that area
Speaker 1: and it was tripped along the way by a tracker
Speaker 1: on the Kia that indicated where the car was, and
Speaker 1: so the police did not know. When they came up,
Speaker 1: they were about to encounter four individuals with two guns,
Speaker 1: including a nine millimeter with an extended meg. So in
Speaker 1: that situation, the two police cars came up with their
Speaker 1: lights on, sirens on, and the four of them immediately
Speaker 1: got out of the car started running. One of the
Speaker 1: four took the nine millimeter with him, that was Ryan Hinton,
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. The other three simply ran like jack
Speaker 1: rabbits into the woods. And Ryan Hinton had the opportunity
Speaker 1: at that point to run away. He could have simply
Speaker 1: got He could have followed his three brother thieves and
Speaker 1: simply run into the woods, which would have made it
Speaker 1: difficult to find, but with K nine units and drones,
Speaker 1: not so difficult today anymore. But nonetheless, he decided to
Speaker 1: take with him as he began to run, a nine
Speaker 1: millimeter with an extended meg, and when he took about
Speaker 1: three or four steps, he fell to the pavement and
Speaker 1: the gun fell with him. At that point, two or
Speaker 1: three officers on the body cam you hear him shouting gun, gun, gun,
Speaker 1: and an officer's mind, it's a life and death situation
Speaker 1: after that. At that point, when Ryan Hinton, having picked
Speaker 1: up the gun from the car in the first place,
Speaker 1: having taken three or four steps, knowing that police are
Speaker 1: right there and he falls and drops the gun. He
Speaker 1: then picks up the gun. Bad choice. That's when police
Speaker 1: are an extra alert. When you hear gun, gun, gun,
Speaker 1: you know you're about to have a life and death situation.
Speaker 1: He could have run with the other three straight ahead
Speaker 1: into the woods. Instead. There were two large dumpsters that
Speaker 1: provided camouflage for fire whatever he wanted to do. But
Speaker 1: when the officer heard gun, gun, gun, that's when he
Speaker 1: pulled out his weapon. The weapons are not pulled out
Speaker 1: to chase somebody. They were pulled out because the word
Speaker 1: gun gun gun was expressed within two seconds of gun, gun, gun.
Speaker 1: There were five shots fired by the Cincinnati police officer,
Speaker 1: and according to the defense team, the Ryan Hinton on
Speaker 1: the video appears to be running away from the officer
Speaker 1: without the gun being directly pointed at the cop. When
Speaker 1: the officer gave a statement, he said the gun was
Speaker 1: pointed at me. He may be unlining the word. May
Speaker 1: be wrong about that, because it would take I had
Speaker 1: on Rob Sanders, your friend from Kenton County yesterday, who
Speaker 1: said it takes about a quarter of a second for
Speaker 1: a gun to be in someone's hand to go from
Speaker 1: straight ahead to left, and you have a quarter of
Speaker 1: a second to make a decision, which is the length
Speaker 1: it takes to blink your eye. Do you see anything
Speaker 1: wrong as an expert in these areas, that the police
Speaker 1: officer from Cincinnati did anything wrong.
Speaker 2: No, I do not listen when you're dealing with a gun.
Speaker 2: If you're standing in front of somebody in your face
Speaker 2: and then they have a gun and you're a police officer,
Speaker 2: you can even have your gun on your finger on
Speaker 2: the trigger. If they decide to shoot you before your
Speaker 2: brain reacts to your finger, they can pull the trigger
Speaker 2: and shoot you. Even if you're both standing there with
Speaker 2: a gun pointing at each other. That the brain and
Speaker 2: you see them by the time you pull the trigger
Speaker 2: too late. Police officers are shot when they're running. They
Speaker 2: can turn around and shoot you. Just the blink of
Speaker 2: an eye. You can be shot. And it's always easy
Speaker 2: to second guess. Anybody shouldn't have had the gun, shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been running with the gun, shouldn't have been taking
Speaker 2: somebody's car, And listen, police officers risk their lives every day.
Speaker 2: You don't have to wait for somebody to shoot at
Speaker 2: you first to return fire. And like I said, if
Speaker 2: you're standing there facing someone with a gun.
Speaker 1: I've been in training.
Speaker 2: Before, where you have your finger on the trigger, they
Speaker 2: can still shoot you before you can return fire. Nope,
Speaker 2: the police officer goes home and the person with the
Speaker 2: gun doesn't go home. Shouldn't do that, shouldn't be involved
Speaker 2: in that.
Speaker 1: And it's it's.
Speaker 2: Sad for everybody, But you can be shot in such
Speaker 2: short periods of time. Police officers don't have to be
Speaker 2: shot at first to return fire or to stop the
Speaker 2: threat period.
Speaker 1: And officers are trained. Don't look at someone's hips or
Speaker 1: their knees, or their feet or their eyeballs, look at
Speaker 1: their hands. Why would an eighteen year old. Of course
Speaker 1: I've heard this argument too from the left. He had
Speaker 1: the right it's an open carry state. Well, you can't
Speaker 1: possess a handgun in Ohio under the age of twenty one.
Speaker 1: But that point to the side. What is the motive
Speaker 1: or purpose of having an extended mag on a nine
Speaker 1: millimeter in the hands of an eighteen year old illegally?
Speaker 1: What's the purpose of the magazine extended?
Speaker 2: I assume, well, I know what that part is, so
Speaker 2: you can have more bullets fire. Yeah, the extended magazine
Speaker 2: so you can you can instead of having list. I'm
Speaker 2: just making a point. Instead of having eight shots, maybe
Speaker 2: you have sixteen and with a nine milimeter. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter what caliber the gun is. Us the extented magazine
Speaker 2: and say you have more shops to fire. And when
Speaker 2: you're running with a gun away from the police, the
Speaker 2: police does not have to And when you're in if
Speaker 2: you're in fear of your life, which police officers are
Speaker 2: at risk every day, it's none of it's good with
Speaker 2: these handguns. And where did he get the handgun? Who
Speaker 2: supplied the handguns? That'll come out maybe later. You have
Speaker 2: to assume either somebody gave the gun, they stole the gun,
Speaker 2: they bought it somewhere at a flea market. Probably maybe
Speaker 2: a stolen gun, don't know, might belong to a family member.
Speaker 2: Don't know that, but we will know because we have
Speaker 2: the gun, we had the magazine. And it's a terrible tragedy.
Speaker 2: But you shouldn't point guns at the police. You shouldn't
Speaker 2: be being chased by the police. And the police have
Speaker 2: to defend their they don't have to wait for you
Speaker 2: to pull a gun.
Speaker 1: Shoot there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the return.
Speaker 1: Fire, that's what the left says. You have to wait
Speaker 1: to see what his intent was well, I think his
Speaker 1: intent was obvious from the beginning. He had every opportunity
Speaker 1: to save his own life and to save the life
Speaker 1: indirectly of Chief of Deputy Larry Henderson, and every decision
Speaker 1: made by Ryan Hinton, the eighteen year old boy was
Speaker 1: the wrong decision that cost his life. And the fact
Speaker 1: the officer was put in that situation, his life's never
Speaker 1: going to be different for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: And his name's not out there yet, but nonetheless, at
Speaker 1: some point it's going to get out there. He'll have
Speaker 1: to testify in court. Marcy's law means you don't have
Speaker 1: to release the name, but at some point the name's
Speaker 1: out there. I'm told by those at CPD he's extremely
Speaker 1: well respected. I'm told he's been he's been a cop
Speaker 1: for many, many years. He's had no other shoot incidents whatsoever.
Speaker 1: And he found himself within two seconds of gun gun
Speaker 1: gun to a life and death situation, the result of
Speaker 1: which might have been his murder and the murder of
Speaker 1: his fellow cops. I was told by one knowledgeable person
Speaker 1: that he had ability to have twenty two shots fired
Speaker 1: in a period of about five seconds, almost like a
Speaker 1: machine gun, and the person that made this happen was
Speaker 1: Ryan Hinton, and the person who murdered Larry Henderson was
Speaker 1: Rodney Hinton, the thirty eight year old who, according to
Speaker 1: Prosecutor County Pillage, waited in the turn lane for traffic
Speaker 1: to clear. He had time to clear his own head
Speaker 1: to think about do I really want to do this?
Speaker 1: He saw one police officer by himself, operating a traffic
Speaker 1: device to assist moms and dads and boys and girls
Speaker 1: to cross the street for UC graduation. He specifically murdered
Speaker 1: Larry Henderson in cold blood, and he waited till the
Speaker 1: traffic declared to make sure he had a clear shot
Speaker 1: at him. They've checked out the accelerator of the vehicle.
Speaker 1: It's fully operational. There was no skid marks. And so
Speaker 1: the person in charge of this entire series of events
Speaker 1: is one on only Ryan Hinton, and right now he's
Speaker 1: probably burning in hell for what he did.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, this this whole thing is a mess. But
Speaker 2: I know the Cincinnati Police Department. They train and they
Speaker 2: trains some of the most well trained police officers in
Speaker 2: the entire country. And I can say that for a fact,
Speaker 2: they train, train, train, and uh, the police Department and Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: They have a right to go home every night. Yes,
Speaker 2: you sent point done that you can't shoot at him.
Speaker 2: And they so there heroes. They risked their lives every day.
Speaker 2: And it all started when this guy, eighteen year.
Speaker 1: Old had the gun.
Speaker 2: I must run him with it with a fool magazine
Speaker 2: and you hesitate, you die. E Temple had listen, had
Speaker 2: no choices, none wants or whatever. But the woman that
Speaker 2: ran and killed Larry, he waited like somebody hiding in
Speaker 2: the roots, like a coward, and where didn't have a chance,
Speaker 2: and accelerated in a car and ran over him and
Speaker 2: killed him. And now he wants sympathy and he will
Speaker 2: not get that. He will not get that for me.
Speaker 2: He's been in my jail before, and he's been in
Speaker 2: Butler County. He's been arrested, he's been here, should have
Speaker 2: been in prison, but he wasn't. And these people get
Speaker 2: out of prison way too early. And this person is
Speaker 2: no more than a cold blood at murder that's murdered
Speaker 2: a police officer and should get the full extent of
Speaker 2: the law, which includes the death.
Speaker 1: County sheriff. We got to run. But Rodney Hinton spent
Speaker 1: time with you the murderer thirty eight years old. We
Speaker 1: got to run, Sheriff. Thanks for your great participation in
Speaker 1: law enforcement. Stay safe and give my best all the
Speaker 1: many women the Butler County Sheriff's Department. Sheriff, once again,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank
Speaker 1: you Sheriff, Thank you, sir, God pleasure. Let's continue with more.
Speaker 1: Rodney Hinton, a known criminal spending time in the Butler
Speaker 1: County jail before he murdered in cold blood Larry Henderson.
Speaker 1: Bill cunninghams Radio seven hundred WW by Billy Cunningham. Very
Speaker 1: emotional Friday afternoon in the Tri State. Coming up after
Speaker 1: one o'clock today will be a representative of the Catholic
Speaker 1: League about Leo the fourteenth, Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost of Chicago,
Speaker 1: talk about that after one o'clock today, looking to my left,
Speaker 1: to my right, a fallen heroes on his way to
Speaker 1: his final resting place at Spring Grove Cemetery. And there
Speaker 1: are hundreds or thousands of Cincinnatians standing outside their homes
Speaker 1: saluting in silence the passing of the casket of Deputy
Speaker 1: Larry Henderson, who gave us life for you and me
Speaker 1: in ways that many of us find quite admirable to
Speaker 1: give your life for another. A wise man once said
Speaker 1: that no greater love than this, And someone lay down
Speaker 1: their life for their friends, for their family, for their country,
Speaker 1: and that's certainly a life in times of Larry Henderson.
Speaker 1: And I would note that the casket to my left
Speaker 1: is approaching Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard where he was
Speaker 1: murdered by Rodney Hinton Junior in an active rage and
Speaker 1: unspeakable violence for which there should be a quick and
Speaker 1: rapid adjudicate, a judication, and then the death penalty should
Speaker 1: be imposed. And I know I'm gonna have on Mondyar Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Senator Bernie Marino, who wants to make the killing of
Speaker 1: a police officer, a deputy sheriff, a corrections officer a
Speaker 1: hate crime slash capital offense under federal statutes. And it
Speaker 1: takes away from local communities the ability to, shall we
Speaker 1: say not, provide the ultimate penalty for those who commit
Speaker 1: such unspeakable acts. And I have some doubt whether or
Speaker 1: not actually there's going to be a conviction for the
Speaker 1: death penalty for Rodney Hinton. He has a fine criminal
Speaker 1: defense attorney Clyde Bennett is going to do his best
Speaker 1: to indicate that he's suffering from mental disease would effect plus,
Speaker 1: Ohio is a relatively new statute that says that's sentencing.
Speaker 1: If you're at that point mentally ill in some way
Speaker 1: or another, you can't get the death penalty. All you
Speaker 1: can receive is life imprisonment without possibility of parole, and
Speaker 1: many might consider that to be worse than death itself.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but nonetheless I want to give credit
Speaker 1: to Connie Pillage, our New Hamlety County prosecutor, for seeking
Speaker 1: the death penalty in this case. Whether actually twenty years
Speaker 1: from now may be imposed as another matter, when I
Speaker 1: had on Joe Dieters repeatedly on these kinds of cases,
Speaker 1: once they get to federal court after maybe three to
Speaker 1: five years in the state system, many federal judges don't
Speaker 1: want to post the death penalty on anyone, and they
Speaker 1: simply put the file on their drawer and refuse to
Speaker 1: act on it completely. And so it's haphazardly whether death
Speaker 1: penalty can be imposed on anyone in the country. If
Speaker 1: it's ever used, it's got to be used on Rodney
Speaker 1: Hinton junior thirty eight years old, who purposely killed someone
Speaker 1: representing law and order. Also, this should be in a
Speaker 1: sense of hate crime. He wasn't killed because his name
Speaker 1: was Larry Henderson. He was killed because he wore the
Speaker 1: uniform and this person wanted to kill a cop. We
Speaker 1: can sort out the insanity defense later, which is quite
Speaker 1: unlikely to be successful, but who knows. And on that front,
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, a vicious, cold blood murderer
Speaker 1: named Chad Dorman in Claremont County brutally executed his own
Speaker 1: three children seven, four and three years old, three little boys, Clayton,
Speaker 1: Hunter and Chase. Prosecutor Clairemont County didn't want to go
Speaker 1: through the difficulties and the problems of seeking the death
Speaker 1: penalty for Chad Dorman, so he got life imprisonment without
Speaker 1: possibility of parole times three, which means we're going to
Speaker 1: support him for the next thirty to forty years as
Speaker 1: he watches football games, get three square meals to day,
Speaker 1: et cetera. And that's the way it is. So I
Speaker 1: hope that when this case comes up for trial, probably
Speaker 1: next year sometime, that the jury convicts Rodney Hinton. There's
Speaker 1: no question who done it. This isn't who did it.
Speaker 1: We know who did it and why he did it.
Speaker 1: We know why he did it. He wanted revenge against police.
Speaker 1: And a little bit of news was made a few
Speaker 1: minutes ago when Richard K. Jones said that Rodney Hinton's
Speaker 1: thirty eight years old, has spent time in the Butler
Speaker 1: County jail. We were led to believe by some he
Speaker 1: had deminimus previous criminal record. I don't know. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you get two or three bites of the apple.
Speaker 1: When you purposely and cold blood intentionally kill a police
Speaker 1: officer unconnected to the squabbles in your own life and
Speaker 1: just kill because he represents something, that person should get
Speaker 1: the death penalty within three to five years. If you
Speaker 1: kill a federal official like Oklahoma City but McVeigh, guess
Speaker 1: what he's executed within five years. They said, a hell
Speaker 1: with it. You kill a federal official, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: care of you rapidly. That's not the way it works.
Speaker 1: And I have hopes that justice will be done, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't bring back the life of Larry Henderson, his
Speaker 1: lovely wife, five children, grandchildren. He was a foster parent,
Speaker 1: adopting two more kids, who, by the way, were African American,
Speaker 1: but that's a secondary issue. No one could have led
Speaker 1: a better life when I had on Chrmaine McGuffey. The
Speaker 1: other day, she wanted to promote Larry Henderson repeatedly, but
Speaker 1: he did not want to be promoted. He wanted to
Speaker 1: be on the front lines. About twenty years ago he
Speaker 1: was awarded by side LEAs and Sean Donovan and the
Speaker 1: Medal of Valor, which is similar to the Medal of
Speaker 1: Honor for the activities he did in saving a woman's life.
Speaker 1: He spent his whole life on the swat team. That's dangerous,
Speaker 1: the dive team, that's dangerous. How about bomb squad, now
Speaker 1: that's dangerous. Thirty three years he retires with the thanks
Speaker 1: of a great city, in a grateful country, in a
Speaker 1: grateful county, and then it takes the activities of Rodney
Speaker 1: Hinton to murder him in cold blood. So if he
Speaker 1: doesn't get the death Company, then damn it, we shouldn't
Speaker 1: have one. And I wouldn't note that. At the funeral
Speaker 1: proceedings of the Cintas Center. Looking to my left, right
Speaker 1: now the casket carrying the remains of Larry on Victory
Speaker 1: Parkway slowly going toward head to Heaven Cemetery. President were
Speaker 1: side Lease, the legendary ninety two year old sheriff of
Speaker 1: him in the county. He was in a wheelchair or
Speaker 1: a walker, and also with him was Sean Donovan, his
Speaker 1: chief deputy for like twenty five or thirty years. Also
Speaker 1: president was Charmaine McGuffey, who spoke so highly of Larry
Speaker 1: and his family and his service. Also president with Jay Gramkey,
Speaker 1: the chief deputy under Charmaine, and also Chris Ketman was there,
Speaker 1: who's the new chief deputy. So this wasn't political at all.
Speaker 1: They came out because they love this guy, this person
Speaker 1: who touched so many. So it's with profound sadness. Reminded
Speaker 1: me in a sense what happened with police officer Sonny
Speaker 1: Kim who was lowered to a side in Madisonville and
Speaker 1: killed by someone murdered because he wanted to kill a cop,
Speaker 1: similar to what happened here with Larry. Suspicable, unbelievable, and
Speaker 1: somehow we must find in ourselves the realization that police
Speaker 1: officers wearing a badge all too often find themselves and
Speaker 1: intractable difficult circumstances, not of their making, which arise extremely quickly.
Speaker 1: You might recall that Charmaine McGuffey said that from start
Speaker 1: to finish, this entire event took about six seconds. From
Speaker 1: start to finish, the police roll up and they're looking
Speaker 1: for thieves, crooks, miscreants, and all, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: four vacate the Kia. One took a gun with him
Speaker 1: and one of the officers saw him drop the gun
Speaker 1: on the pavement, stumbled and pick it back up. And
Speaker 1: you know, in law enforcement, when you hear the words gun, gun, gun,
Speaker 1: your weapon comes out. You're in a life and death
Speaker 1: struggle from that point on. And somehow we must allow
Speaker 1: officers to space to do their jobs while holding the
Speaker 1: sum accountable for difficulties or wrongful use of force. But
Speaker 1: that is extremely rare, and we have to stop acting
Speaker 1: as if the use of force is somehow automatically misconduct
Speaker 1: until the officer proves it isn't. And we have to
Speaker 1: stop criticizing those who are sworn to protect us and
Speaker 1: making life and debt decisions. There's an entire elements of
Speaker 1: the so called civil rights crowd who become multi multi
Speaker 1: millionaires by uh perpetrating a fraud, a lie upon the
Speaker 1: American people that semol police in the so called black
Speaker 1: communities at loggerheads, which they're not, and that often you
Speaker 1: have very civil rights divisions of government that bring into
Speaker 1: government those who have been complaining about police misconduct and
Speaker 1: pay them big salaries to calm things down. And that's
Speaker 1: not the way it ought to be. You should not
Speaker 1: support law enforcement only when there's a funeral of a cop,
Speaker 1: but support it to twenty four to seven accept in
Speaker 1: those very rare circumstances in which there's a bad, shall
Speaker 1: I say, an unjustified shooting. I hate to use the
Speaker 1: term whether it's good or a bad shooting, they're all bad.
Speaker 1: It's bad, of course for the person the criminal that
Speaker 1: caused it to occur, and it's bad for the officer
Speaker 1: who must take someone's life and be stigmatized for the
Speaker 1: rest of his or her career. I call it justified
Speaker 1: or unjustified shooting. As soon as these things happen automatically,
Speaker 1: there is a pro test signs going up at the
Speaker 1: Amley County Justice Center. Normally they're white educated females, much
Speaker 1: like at Columbia and which white educated females think they
Speaker 1: have the answers to all the questions in life, holding
Speaker 1: up signs even yesterday about racist cops shooting black men.
Speaker 1: According to The New York Times, not exactly a conservative publication.
Speaker 1: Of the one thousand deaths every year committed and which
Speaker 1: officers kill someone, as far as racer is concerned, it's
Speaker 1: fifty percent black and eighteen percent I'm sorry, fifty percent
Speaker 1: white and eighteen percent black. The great majority of people
Speaker 1: shot by police are white, and as far as they
Speaker 1: really questionable ones, it's down to something like ten to
Speaker 1: fifteen total out of one thousand shootings. It's very rare,
Speaker 1: extremely rare. And what it happens, the cops are always
Speaker 1: held to account. Oh he'll do account. It's almost as
Speaker 1: if the mob, the mob, the mob, oocracy must be satisfied.
Speaker 1: As soon as these things happened, the protest comes out, screaming,
Speaker 1: hollering and shouting, pay me off, give me money. And
Speaker 1: that's the goal of these white, generally educated females that
Speaker 1: have nothing better to do in their miserable lives than
Speaker 1: act as if what they're saying is important when it
Speaker 1: is not.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: Once again, uh, police officers right now are pulling people
Speaker 1: over on speeding charges, serving Warrens doing whatever. There's a
Speaker 1: certain passivity, there's certain reticence now of police officers to
Speaker 1: be active in their policing because of the difficulties that
Speaker 1: one encounters himself for herself. In the four officers who
Speaker 1: went to the scene of this theft of a Kia
Speaker 1: from Edgewood, Kentucky that was tracked to that parking lot
Speaker 1: of Nice Price Hill, had no idea they would quickly
Speaker 1: be in a life and death struggle, had no idea
Speaker 1: that their lives put in a paper bag and shaken
Speaker 1: for the next several years. And I am confident at
Speaker 1: some point that Michael Wright, the attorney from the Cochrane
Speaker 1: Law Firm my head on a few days ago, ultimately,
Speaker 1: when things settled now, is going to sue the City
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati for wrongful police actions because he thinks he
Speaker 1: can prove that the barrel of the gun was not
Speaker 1: directly pointed at the police officer at the time the
Speaker 1: eighteen year old boy, Ryan Hinton was shot. He thinks
Speaker 1: you can prove that, and to me, that's irrelevant, completely irrelevant.
Speaker 1: It takes, according to Rob Sanders, about a quarter of
Speaker 1: a second to have a loaded gun in your right hand,
Speaker 1: pointed in one direction to quickly point it in a
Speaker 1: different direction a quarter of a second, which is a
Speaker 1: length length of time. It takes the blink one's eye.
Speaker 1: And I didn't want this cop to take a shot
Speaker 1: to his head or neck or legs to kill him
Speaker 1: before he ends the threat to his fellow officers and
Speaker 1: to himself. And I'm confident that at some point, if
Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati is consistent in what they do,
Speaker 1: they may even pay off the estate of Ryan Hinton
Speaker 1: some money. Who's going to pay back Larry Henderson and
Speaker 1: his family? Where's that money gonna come from. We're going
Speaker 1: to spend millions and millions of dollars on prosecuting Rodney
Speaker 1: Hinton Junior. And I'm sure Clyde Bennett's going to do
Speaker 1: a great job. Maybe confuse one or two jurors, and
Speaker 1: that's a consequence, maybe have trial after trial after trial.
Speaker 1: But the first time out, Connie Pillich's the new prosecutor,
Speaker 1: is doing the right thing by seeking the death penalty,
Speaker 1: and I pray down the road it might be imposed,
Speaker 1: not in my lifetime, maybe yours. Let's continue with more
Speaker 1: and the procession as I speak, is now heading towards
Speaker 1: Spring Grove Avenue in the Spring Grove Cemetery where there'll
Speaker 1: be other funeral proceedings and then if we put the
Speaker 1: rest in his grave. As all the activities involving State
Speaker 1: of Ohio versus Rodney Hinton continue to work themselves through
Speaker 1: the court and the estate of Ryan Hinton will eventually
Speaker 1: file lawsuits against the City of Cincinnati and put these
Speaker 1: Cincinnati cops through a living hell split second, frame by frame,
Speaker 1: frame by frame. It's what Michael Wright said, the civil attorney.
Speaker 1: We're going to break it down, frame by frame to
Speaker 1: see if we can find something this cop did wrong. Well,
Speaker 1: good luck, let's continue with more and later on today
Speaker 1: after one o'clock will be Catholic leagues Michael McDonald about
Speaker 1: the ascendancy of a cardinal from Chicago who, by the way,
Speaker 1: was a registered Republican and his brother said, growing up
Speaker 1: on the South Side of Chicago, they were white Sox fans.
Speaker 1: That was a serious mistake in judgment. But nonetheless, he
Speaker 1: speaks five languages well, and his native language is English.
Speaker 1: And when he comes to America maybe in a year
Speaker 1: or two or three after, you can't play upon your
Speaker 1: American roots. That's not considered good. In the rest of
Speaker 1: the world. I think it is. He's called the least
Speaker 1: American cardinal. I think that's a criticism, not a compliment,
Speaker 1: around the world. If you're the least American cardinal, that's objectable, objectionable,
Speaker 1: that's a problem. But nonetheless, we have an American Pope,
Speaker 1: which is unbelievable. We have the Olympics here, we have
Speaker 1: the Soccer World Cup is here, we have Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and the White House here. Now we have the Pope here.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Let's continue twelve fifty six, Home of your Rads,
Speaker 1: losing another one last night they should have won. On
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred that you all of you by
Speaker 1: Billy Cunningham, the Great American. As I look to my left,
Speaker 1: the body of a hero Larry Henderson has arrived at
Speaker 1: Spring Grove Cemetery for proceedings there, and we'll be in
Speaker 1: tombs sometime later this afternoon. But as we continue, of course,
Speaker 1: as we're all well aware, yesterday the shocking news came
Speaker 1: out that we have an American pope for the first
Speaker 1: time ever. It was thought impossible for lots of reas,
Speaker 1: but Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost was elevated from his status
Speaker 1: as a cardinal. He was only became a cardinal a
Speaker 1: couple of years years ago, and so many are a
Speaker 1: commenting whether or not he will be shall we say
Speaker 1: in the vein of Francis the First, or will he
Speaker 1: be in the vein of his two predecessors? Will he
Speaker 1: be a liberal or will he be a conservative? I
Speaker 1: would note that there is some information available that he
Speaker 1: was a registered Republican at one point, and he also
Speaker 1: was a White Sox fan, despite the protestations of the contrary.
Speaker 1: And there are some conservative commentators like Laura Lumer. She's
Speaker 1: branding our new pope already as woke and a Marxist,
Speaker 1: which is a blasphemy in my viewpoint. But a man
Speaker 1: who set the record straight is Michael McDonald the Catholic
Speaker 1: League of New York City and Michael McDonald, welcome again
Speaker 1: to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Mike,
Speaker 1: let's talk about what happened yesterday about twelve fifteen, twelve
Speaker 1: twenty in the afternoon Eastern time. Described the level of
Speaker 1: shock that you felt when the Cardinals picked an American pope.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Bill, it's great to be with you. This is a
Speaker 4: tremendous moment in American history. I mean, you look around
Speaker 4: Cardinal prevos now folk Leo the fourteenth wasn't really on
Speaker 4: anyone's like top five lists. Yeah, you'd see him as
Speaker 4: like on a couple of these lists is, oh, there's
Speaker 4: actually another American cardinal. He's actually down in Peru, runs
Speaker 4: giously down there, and he's over in Rome now, but
Speaker 4: we all forget about him. So, you know, this guy
Speaker 4: kind of came out, not necessarily out of nowhere, but
Speaker 4: definitely not in anyone's top five lists. And I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess we do live in the age of Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: I guess the Vatican was worried about getting the tariffs
Speaker 4: so they bought American I don't know, but this is
Speaker 4: this is you know, a tremendous earthquake and a good thing,
Speaker 4: and a good thing like this is very exciting. The
Speaker 4: American Church is very strong, very vibrant. You know, you
Speaker 4: go to particularly these churches that offer the Latin masks
Speaker 4: that are much more closer to the tradition of what
Speaker 4: the church is always taught and always believed in, and
Speaker 4: they're very vibrant. There's young families with kids. I mean,
Speaker 4: the church my wife and I go to with our
Speaker 4: our kid is like that. There's a lot of young
Speaker 4: kids there. You know, you're not seeing so many of
Speaker 4: the gray haired types that you're see in some of
Speaker 4: these more like boomer churches that just sort of do
Speaker 4: let's feel good. So this is a good moment for that. Well,
Speaker 4: we'll have to see how he governs. You know, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of question marks on that. But this is
Speaker 4: the first day on the job that there are signs
Speaker 4: that people that are hoping for more of a return
Speaker 4: tradition could be excited about. And then there's other things
Speaker 4: that might might cause a little bit of heartburn. But
Speaker 4: we'll just have to see. Let's give him the benefit
Speaker 4: of the doubt. He hasn't just been on the job
Speaker 4: for twenty four hours, so let's let's see what he
Speaker 4: can do.
Speaker 1: Michael McDonald, I'd look at some point. I guess he
Speaker 1: can't do it in the first year or two, but
Speaker 1: at some point, Leo the fourteenth is going to tour America.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine when he comes here and you
Speaker 1: have a pope speak of the English. So well, who
Speaker 1: was a white Sox fan in Chicago growing up. According
Speaker 1: to his brother, of course, now the Cubs are claiming him.
Speaker 1: The Cubs have a sign up out of Wrigley Field.
Speaker 1: He's a Cubs fan, but his brother said, we grew
Speaker 1: up on the South Side as white Sox fans who
Speaker 1: spent like twenty years as a missionary in Peru. I
Speaker 1: completely lost touch with him. And then he's plucked down
Speaker 1: and may use the term obscurity by a pontiff to
Speaker 1: come eventually worked his way up from the bottom of
Speaker 1: Rome to picking the archbishops all around the world. And
Speaker 1: I would think from that circumstance, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the title was, but he was the guy advising the
Speaker 1: Pope Francis who to make an archbishop, including the new
Speaker 1: one we have here in Cincinnati from Chicago, and I
Speaker 1: would think he was uniquely qualified. But for the fact
Speaker 1: he was born in America and he was called the
Speaker 1: least American of the cardinal cardinals, of all the cardinals here,
Speaker 1: was that an insult or accomplishment?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: Accomplishment accomplishment?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it depends on who you talk to
Speaker 4: in terms of the least American of the American cardinals.
Speaker 4: I think that's not necessarily a wrong take, but I
Speaker 4: do think that you know that there is something to
Speaker 4: be said, particularly what we really needed Pope Francis. I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to do like the cadavers in it back
Speaker 4: in the seven hundreds and when we're taking up to
Speaker 4: the old pope to lamb bassed him. But some of
Speaker 4: his moral teachings were a little lacking in clarity to
Speaker 4: be to be nice about it, he you kind of
Speaker 4: wondered sometimes about the people around him, if they if
Speaker 4: their hearts were in the right place. And yeah, uh,
Speaker 4: Popolio the fourteenth has a great story to tell.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, he felt really called to do missionary work.
Speaker 4: He joined the Augustinians, which traces their lineage back to
Speaker 4: Saint Augustine back in antiquity. Uh so this is an
Speaker 4: established order. The most, they're a lot smaller than they
Speaker 4: used to be. I mean, probably the last big member
Speaker 4: that they had the people would be familiar with Martin
Speaker 4: Luther and we know how that turned out. But in
Speaker 4: terms of Pope Lio the fourteenth himself, as Cardinal Privos,
Speaker 4: he went down to uh Lima dance Brew. He did
Speaker 4: a lot of missionary work in there, in remote villages
Speaker 4: up in the Andes. Uh and you know that's there's
Speaker 4: something nice to see, especially as a Catholic is someone
Speaker 4: that's deeply in love with their faith. I mean, yesterday, uh,
Speaker 4: he's just stopped and said to hail Mary, uh, which
Speaker 4: is a good sign for traditionalists. A strong Marian devotions
Speaker 4: something that you want to keep an eye out for.
Speaker 4: And so just in terms of love for the Church,
Speaker 4: love for Christ, he seems to be starting off on
Speaker 4: the right foot on that and sending a very strong
Speaker 4: message that that's going to be the center of his pontificate.
Speaker 4: And if you look at his first homily today, very
Speaker 4: strong on that issue as well, in which he's talking
Speaker 4: about the world needs to the world needs the Church
Speaker 4: really to bear witness to Christ. Christ is the son
Speaker 4: of God who came to earth to die and save
Speaker 4: us from sin. Not just this nice guy that said
Speaker 4: nice things and gave out little platitudes and had some
Speaker 4: fun sayings, but actually the pathway to salvation. And so
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot to be optimistic about.
Speaker 1: Each side wants to claim him your story. The Bill
Speaker 1: Donnau's on the Catholic League website says that Orthodox Catholics
Speaker 1: will be happy to learn that Leo the Fourteenth is
Speaker 1: strongly pro life. He opposes abortion, thank god, euthanasia assists
Speaker 1: at suicide. He also goes on to say he believes
Speaker 1: in property rights, which Marxists do not believe in. He's
Speaker 1: also made the case for private property, which is hardly
Speaker 1: an expression of socialism. He's also spoke about immigration in
Speaker 1: ways that gives a lot of comfort to shall I say, liberals,
Speaker 1: how do you explain him going after jd Vance in
Speaker 1: a sense a couple months ago in which the Cardinals
Speaker 1: said on X that quote jd Vance is wrong. Jesus
Speaker 1: does not ask us to rank our love for others
Speaker 1: quote unquote. Now, liberals thought, okay, that's good. He's going
Speaker 1: after jd Vance. Conservatives think, well, that's good. He's pro life,
Speaker 1: that healthy babies inside the bodies of healthy mothers should
Speaker 1: be allowed to live and not be killed in the womb.
Speaker 1: But as far as the issue of him kind of
Speaker 1: going after jd Vance, your reaction to that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that is h especially you know, we're just
Speaker 5: talking about him being in the Justinian That concept actually
Speaker 5: comes from Saint Augustine, that that there is ranked above
Speaker 5: Uh so.
Speaker 6: There is uh yeah, there's definitely uh some some concerns
Speaker 6: that politically he may not be on the same footing
Speaker 6: as JD.
Speaker 4: Vance. Okay, I understand that. I mean it's great.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, we just had a Catholic president in this country,
Speaker 4: allegedly Catholic president of the country that uh, there was
Speaker 4: a fortune he could justify. Okay, he pulled the rosary
Speaker 4: out of his pockets every once in a while, but
Speaker 4: couldn't I couldn't do anything in sept with the actual
Speaker 4: teachings of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: So you know, it's nice to have actually, uh a
Speaker 4: person like JD. Vance as a Catholic to actually get
Speaker 4: up there and so actually the Catholic Church has these notions.
Speaker 4: They're ancient, but you know, we should practice them. And
Speaker 4: that's that's very refreshing to have somebody in public life
Speaker 4: that actually takes their faith seriously, uh and can speak
Speaker 4: to it with a high degree of authority. You just
Speaker 4: looked at the JD. Vance and he sounds like he
Speaker 4: knows what he's talking about because he does.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's a huge thing to have, particularly for
Speaker 4: lay people like oh, look, here's somebody that isn't a
Speaker 4: presets out there putting his faith into action, living it
Speaker 4: out daily, uh, and making that the backbone of his
Speaker 4: public policy. That's a great thing to see. And yeah,
Speaker 4: I would hope I would hope that you know, now
Speaker 4: that maybe the political climate has changed in Rome, we
Speaker 4: can look at these things a little bit more clearly.
Speaker 4: And so actually that would be a benefit to the church.
Speaker 4: People that are not ordained, that are able to live
Speaker 4: out their faith and express a faith, and they that
Speaker 4: brings more people to the faith in or at least
Speaker 4: inspire the people that are already in the faith to
Speaker 4: actively without their faith.
Speaker 1: I would note that JD. Vance, who was non religious,
Speaker 1: converted to Catholicism at my church, Saint Gertrude's and Madera.
Speaker 1: He's a practicing a Roman Catholic. Now, I would point
Speaker 1: out the art your article says, quote is Popely of
Speaker 1: the fourteenth a Republican, a Democrat, or an independent. Well,
Speaker 1: he's a Republican, a registered Republican in Illinois, which is
Speaker 1: hard to be a Republican in Illinois. In Chicago. He
Speaker 1: pulled the Republican lever in twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: apparently did not vote in the twenty sixteen, but chose
Speaker 1: to vote by absentee in twenty twenty four. It appears
Speaker 1: he's more of a Bush Republican than a Trump Republican,
Speaker 1: but he's certainly not woke or a Marxist activist, and
Speaker 1: so each side is pulling him. And I would imagine
Speaker 1: living in Italy, which is socialist in Europe, extremely socialist,
Speaker 1: the gravitational poll is going to be to the left
Speaker 1: as opposed to the right. But the Christ is neither
Speaker 1: Democrat nor Republican, liberal nor conservative, left nor right, not
Speaker 1: blue nor red. He cares for all people all the time,
Speaker 1: and salvation is at the heart of what the Christ
Speaker 1: has preached, and so I would I would anticipate that.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine what happens in a year or two
Speaker 1: when he has stadium tours inside this country. What's going
Speaker 1: to happen.
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be the bigger than when
Speaker 4: Pope John Paul the second year over here now Saint
Speaker 4: Kik Pope John Paul the second big I think it's
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be bigger than that, just you know,
Speaker 4: the Poke Jon Paul the second hugely charismatic figure. But
Speaker 4: it is something to be said about having a native
Speaker 4: son in the role of the papacy, that that's just
Speaker 4: hugely inspirational. I think again, depending on as we were
Speaker 4: talking about before, how closely he works in the tradition,
Speaker 4: and there are some things that do speak to him
Speaker 4: being a little bit more traditional. There's something speaking them
Speaker 4: be a little bit more on the reformist side of
Speaker 4: the equation. But depending on how he plays that into
Speaker 4: his Rangela, let's see how that plays out. I think
Speaker 4: if you see somebody that is willing to let traditional
Speaker 4: Catholics express their love for Jesus the way that they
Speaker 4: have for centuries from millennia, I think then you see
Speaker 4: a massive outpouring of love and appreciation for the pope,
Speaker 4: and you'll see a big outpouring. But again, you know
Speaker 4: I've been wrong before. It could be wrong again. Yes,
Speaker 4: I don't think this and on this stuff, but that's
Speaker 4: what I would like to see. Anyway, Maybe that's been
Speaker 4: a wish guessing.
Speaker 1: You know, Justice David Sooner died yesterday. It looks like
Speaker 1: many go in as conservatives to the Supreme Court to
Speaker 1: come out as liberals. I can't recall a circumstance for
Speaker 1: a liberal when in the US Supreme Court came out
Speaker 1: a conservative. Things only go one direction, and it would
Speaker 1: be amazing. But one great sentence or two you have
Speaker 1: in your ca lee call him today quote. If some
Speaker 1: progressives who wanted Francis or second are not expressing this
Speaker 1: main public, don't be fooled is because they want to
Speaker 1: have entraded to the new pope. The left exists for
Speaker 1: one thing, power and they are masters are deceiving. People
Speaker 1: that looks like practicing Roman Catholics today will having Pope
Speaker 1: Leo the fourteenth someone they can rally around. And so
Speaker 1: those are your last comments. And I'm thinking, well, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens in the future. But if this pope
Speaker 1: stays firm on life issues, if we can all agree
Speaker 1: that there's difficulties and pregnancies all the time, but can
Speaker 1: we at least agree that a healthy baby inside the
Speaker 1: body of a healthy mother should be born and the
Speaker 1: rest of it can be dealt with through special legislation
Speaker 1: or adoption, whatever it might be. And if he switches
Speaker 1: and allow women to become priest or or priest to marry,
Speaker 1: which wouldn't be as radical, then we're going to have issues.
Speaker 1: You don't see him breaking with tradition, do you, and
Speaker 1: having women become priest or somehow supporting abortion on demand,
Speaker 1: you see that happening. If that would happen, the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church would crumble.
Speaker 4: Yes. No, and you're right on that. And on terms
Speaker 4: of the Ordained Women Ministry, nonsense. He's actually been very
Speaker 4: vocal on that. In that you the Synod on sitidelity
Speaker 4: last year, he did condemn that very vigorously. So that's
Speaker 4: a good sign on that front. And in terms of
Speaker 4: his American politics, you know, as far as you can
Speaker 4: map any sort of prelate of the Catholic Church into
Speaker 4: American politics, he has been very much on the pro
Speaker 4: life side of just that every single vote primary, all
Speaker 4: these things, and he's spoken very forcefully in defensive life
Speaker 4: and just real quick bill, fun little fact. Yes, on
Speaker 4: the US Supreme Court, you don't tend to see a
Speaker 4: lot of people moving from left to right. But interestingly enough,
Speaker 4: Pope Leo the thirteenth in the eighteen hundreds was elected
Speaker 4: because the cardinals thought that Popius the ninth was too conservative.
Speaker 4: Let's get somebody in there that's a little bit more
Speaker 4: liberal minded. And he actually went even further to the
Speaker 4: right on a lot of issues than pop Pious to nine.
Speaker 4: So this does happen in the particularly in the church.
Speaker 4: I actually Popious the ninth another one, was viewed as
Speaker 4: a liberal and then became much more conservative when he
Speaker 4: became pope. And Benedict the sixteenth another one. Some of
Speaker 4: his writings were not like super hardcore tread Catholic, but
Speaker 4: then when he became pope, he's like, you don't what
Speaker 4: I'm bringing back to Latin mass So just because we
Speaker 4: have a body of work, that doesn't necessarily mean that's
Speaker 4: how he's going to govern.
Speaker 1: Well, this is a special time to be an American
Speaker 1: and we have the Olympics are here, the World Cup
Speaker 1: is here, Donald Trump is here, and the Pope is here.
Speaker 1: I mean, if somebody had made that bet a few
Speaker 1: years ago, i'd bet against it. I don't see an
Speaker 1: American pope. He's the least American of all the cardinals
Speaker 1: in America, which I think is a criticism, not a compliment.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. But once again, Catholic League dot org,
Speaker 1: Catholic League dot org. Great columns up and we'll see
Speaker 1: what the next twenty years bring. And Michael, for the
Speaker 1: first time in my life, we have a pope that's
Speaker 1: younger than me, so that's remarkable. My sister died redd
Speaker 1: and seven because popes are old, and I'm thinking, well, hell,
Speaker 1: maybe i'm old. I'm not sure. You know, I'm seventy seven,
Speaker 1: but hell, I feel like thirty seven most of the time.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I got a pope younger than me, so
Speaker 1: I know I'm getting old. But Michael McDonald Catholic League
Speaker 1: dot org is the website, great stuff. And once again,
Speaker 1: God bless Leo the fourteenth. He's got Pete Rose's number fourteen.
Speaker 1: There's that number again, fourteen, and that's another good sign.
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens the next twenty years. And
Speaker 1: Michael McDonald, Catholic League, thanks again for coming on the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show this Friday day afternoon. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Thanks Billing, You're great, America.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Let's continue with more. Looking at my left,
Speaker 1: the proceedings with with the fallen Deputy Henderson is preceding
Speaker 1: Spring Grove Cemetery an extremely somber occasion. Let's continue with
Speaker 1: more one twenty seven Home of your Reads, hopefully a
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Speaker 8: and a great dude. And uh man, you're talking about
Speaker 8: the law enforcement showing up.
Speaker 1: They're still they're still coming into the cemetery from every state. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and seg right now, I mean. Charmie McGuffey, the sheriff,
Speaker 1: told me that he was on a supervisor of the
Speaker 1: dive team and would go into the Ohio River at
Speaker 1: the bottom and training exercises, feeling around. Then he took
Speaker 1: off his dive stuff and went to the swat team
Speaker 1: and after that he after that a bomb squad, bomb
Speaker 1: squad to disarm IEDs. And what guy did at all?
Speaker 1: What kills him? Yeah? Hinton thirty eight years old, and
Speaker 1: many said he didn't see it coming. He was working
Speaker 1: the traffic control devices to help people walk across the street.
Speaker 1: Unbeknownst to him, Rodney Hinton was preparing to kill a cop.
Speaker 1: Why isn't this a hate crime? Someone sent me a text.
Speaker 1: Because he killed him, not because his name was Larry Henderson.
Speaker 1: He killed him because of what he represented. Isn't that
Speaker 1: a hate crime? I would say so, and we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. But if he's ever executed for this, I'd
Speaker 1: be surprised. You and I won't be around to see it.
Speaker 1: It'll take fifteen or twenty years, and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: you and I have fifteen or twenty years.
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Speaker 1: You know, one of my favorite rock groups are the Eagles?
Speaker 1: Did they? Are they playing in Milford sometime soon? I'm
Speaker 1: not sure Don Henley's going to be there, isn't he?
Speaker 1: And Joe Walsh don't forget Yeah, let's see Drake Baldwin's
Speaker 1: RBI single in the eleven. Braves got by the Rems
Speaker 1: last night five to four. The Red Legs dropped three
Speaker 1: of four in the at L. They're zero and four
Speaker 1: an extra inning game so far, four and seven and
Speaker 1: one run games.
Speaker 8: There's the key right there. Three signs gives the Reds
Speaker 8: a two run lead with a two run bomb, So
Speaker 8: for Ice Sally Glacias in the top of the ninth
Speaker 8: four to two lead, but then Atlanta forces that extra innings.
Speaker 8: Reese messed up a ball in the outfield, right, I
Speaker 8: should have caught it.
Speaker 1: And then uh, blake done. This is unbelievable. This is
Speaker 1: not reviewable.
Speaker 8: I mean Ozzie Alby's loss seriously blocked the base, and
Speaker 8: you can't rew.
Speaker 1: With with the knee.
Speaker 8: The blocking situation, apparently to the baseball is not reviewable.
Speaker 1: Everything else is except to play everything else.
Speaker 8: That that that last night, if that, if that wasn't,
Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's quite a reviewable place. If you
Speaker 8: can't review, why do you have Why do you have
Speaker 8: replay anyway? You can't throw it out review and knee
Speaker 8: against it, you can't review.
Speaker 1: Yeah, blocking the base, he's got like a quarter of
Speaker 1: the base.
Speaker 8: No, there's no way they continue tonight against the Astros
Speaker 8: in Houston.
Speaker 1: Keep going six oh.
Speaker 8: Five, Sports Talk, seven to ten, r NOL carriers, inside
Speaker 8: pitch eight, ten, first pitch tonight.
Speaker 1: Keep going segments. All you can do is keep fighting
Speaker 1: ace pitching, ace runter green grade one growing stream. Does
Speaker 1: that mean I got one? Right now?
Speaker 8: He is likely to be placed on the i L
Speaker 8: sometime soon. Looks like he'll miss at least one start,
Speaker 8: maybe two.
Speaker 1: I looked online two to three weeks for a grade
Speaker 1: one growin strud There you go, right there, i'verained.
Speaker 8: Well, he's basically almost done then through the month of May.
Speaker 8: Right No, I had to add an extra start to it,
Speaker 8: just to make sure. Bengals update brought to you by
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Speaker 8: Bengals holding a one day rookie mini camp today is
Speaker 8: it Zach Taylor today?
Speaker 1: Meeting with the media. No problem.
Speaker 8: No problem with Joe Burrow missing Monday's workout due to
Speaker 8: him attending the met gallap What about his fashion sense, Well,
Speaker 8: he did intended anything to say about that.
Speaker 1: That about his hairstylists.
Speaker 8: No update on the Trey Hendrickson contract talks from the
Speaker 8: head coach, but.
Speaker 1: The ESPN is reporting there are discussions being held despite
Speaker 1: the protestations. Much like the Belichick story. I'm ready to
Speaker 1: go with that big time because according to the forre,
Speaker 1: they said they banned her, banned Jordan from the place.
Speaker 1: Then then they say nah ba nah, I guess she's
Speaker 1: back in. Pablo Torre says she was banned, and then
Speaker 1: U n C comes out with a statement saying, hold
Speaker 1: up on that car, wise, gentlemen, these are golf she's
Speaker 1: our football coaches. Muse, what's have you ever had a
Speaker 1: I know you? And Sarah Elise is your muse? No,
Speaker 1: because the muse has got to be there because of
Speaker 1: the Belichick brand. I don't even know how to spell that.
Speaker 1: What does segment have a brand?
Speaker 8: You need a muse was a brand like shoes and
Speaker 8: shirts and stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 8: All I'm saying is u NC is defending Jordan that
Speaker 8: that that is it that is going to write down
Speaker 8: disaster road right here?
Speaker 1: Can we see what's you're like?
Speaker 8: You're like about halfway when we see what's coming just
Speaker 8: over the hill, and you're headed right here. We see
Speaker 8: what's coming here? Yeah, why can't but nobody else? Why
Speaker 8: can't Belichick see this? Because we're smarter than him?
Speaker 1: Really? I like Lackey Boyman's idea. He's been so sequestered
Speaker 1: for so many decades.
Speaker 8: He finally gets free and goes nuts correct. Top draft
Speaker 8: picked Shamar Stewart not working out on the sideline today
Speaker 8: during the camp. He's not signed, along with second round
Speaker 8: pick linebacker Demetrius Knight.
Speaker 1: What you know there?
Speaker 8: They are both Bengals have signed four picks. Stewart and
Speaker 8: Knight are the only two unsigned. So they didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Why is that? Well, they're still talking about the dough,
Speaker 1: the ray and the me.
Speaker 8: How much dough and how much? I have no idea.
Speaker 8: I tell you one thing. He better get a lot
Speaker 8: more money for four and a half sacks.
Speaker 1: You know it's a lot.
Speaker 8: Maybe pay him about four grand and see if he
Speaker 8: can get five to get get a fifth sack after
Speaker 8: what three years in college?
Speaker 1: Is he that good? I hope? So he better be.
Speaker 8: There's another one this basketball Cincinnati. The Bearcats nearing an
Speaker 8: agreement on a two year scheduling agreement with.
Speaker 1: Whom the Louisville Cardinals.
Speaker 8: I like that those two teams that were major rivals
Speaker 8: years ago. Willie and the old Metro Conference, remember that, yes,
Speaker 8: I do. Twenty twenty five contests would be held at
Speaker 8: the Heritage Bank Center, and then twenty twenty six and
Speaker 8: Louisville's Freedom Hall. They're going back to the confines. I
Speaker 8: like that, Louisville Bearcats and Cardinals. Haven't played each other
Speaker 8: since the twenty twenty two to twenty three season.
Speaker 1: Good, it's about time they get together. Let's give How
Speaker 1: about my all time classic at Christmas time? You see
Speaker 1: Xavior Miami and NKU. Sounds good to be a holiday classic.
Speaker 1: Why not play two games they play each other and
Speaker 1: then play a championship double header. Dave Lapham says, no, no, okay.
Speaker 1: How about Tyrese Haliburton of Indiana Pacers. Have heard this story?
Speaker 1: Now what he do? Twenty has three against the Celtics,
Speaker 1: Ye win game two. He made a move with his
Speaker 1: two hands that indicated he had large testicles. He put
Speaker 1: his hands shall we say low, and that is a
Speaker 1: forbidden sign by the NBA. You can't advertise the fact
Speaker 1: the size of your festicles. So now Tyrese Halliburton is
Speaker 1: facing a fifty thousand dollars fine forgetting his I thought
Speaker 1: he was dancing around or something, but he put his.
Speaker 8: Hands down there as if he had large festicles. And
Speaker 8: he's going to be fine. What he made that shot?
Speaker 1: He does? Well, if you do that, I'll pay the
Speaker 1: fifty grand thank you. That's it. But Tyrese Halliburton is
Speaker 1: his dad going to be at the game. I don't
Speaker 1: think so that.
Speaker 8: I mean, why do you go out on the court
Speaker 8: and get into it with the tallest guy in the
Speaker 8: world and you're not nosed to nose with Giannis, he's
Speaker 8: like fifty years.
Speaker 1: Not nose to nose, nose to belly, belly button. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's yelling that yeah. I got he's seven forty.
Speaker 1: That could pick him up.
Speaker 8: And the swish and could hit him right on top
Speaker 8: of the head and drive him in like in the
Speaker 8: grol like a nail.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Before we get to that last story, I've had this
Speaker 1: thought in my head about a large male silver backed
Speaker 1: gorilla fighting one hundred grown men. You know, we used
Speaker 1: to have the silver backs here in soccer until indoors
Speaker 1: sars killed one, didn't he? I don't think so. But anyway,
Speaker 1: and according to this one side I went to that
Speaker 1: the bite of a large male gorilla is twice as
Speaker 1: strong as a pit bull, I would say, so he
Speaker 1: can take a coconut and put in his mouth and
Speaker 1: eat it like a jelly bean. So I'm thinking, who's
Speaker 1: going to volunteer to be one of those one hundred guys?
Speaker 1: Would you? No? But who'd you take a hundred grown
Speaker 1: men or one gorilla. I'm going with the big g
Speaker 1: Those are things I lay at night. I lay a
Speaker 1: weeks sleeping in these scenarios.
Speaker 8: I'm glad somebody does the Bengals get We'll get an
Speaker 8: early notification on whether they're going to play across the
Speaker 8: Pond and Madrids, the Dolphins in Espagna, and the National
Speaker 8: Football League is set to release the schedule of international
Speaker 8: games Tuesday, and the full schedule comes out Wednesday. Now,
Speaker 8: this is from Jay Morrison of the Athletic in regards
Speaker 8: to the new Pope, Leo the fourteenth has a tie
Speaker 8: in with the Bengals. What yeah, Pope, Yes, let's get
Speaker 8: him here. The last two times the new Pope was elected,
Speaker 8: in twenty five and twenty thirteen, the Bengals won the
Speaker 8: AFC North. Really, yep, it's on the pope. So the
Speaker 8: Pope is not the Cubs said he's a Cubs fan.
Speaker 8: His brother says, nah bah banah, he's a White Sox fan. Now,
Speaker 8: the Pope Leo the fourteenth has a connection with the
Speaker 8: Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: Who who they? Who they think gonna beat them? Bengals
Speaker 1: recently has been everybody but the Cardinals are picking a
Speaker 1: Cubs fan, the Cardinals St. Louis or the College from
Speaker 1: the College of Cardinals. Yeah, because and then he's a
Speaker 1: Chicagoan who goes to Peru for twenty years to be
Speaker 1: a missionary, and and and.
Speaker 8: They love him down there, so they think he's but
Speaker 8: that's all right. I mean he speaks, he's speaking the English.
Speaker 8: And then and I guess his relative said at age
Speaker 8: five or six, some relative of his says, you're going
Speaker 8: to become the next pot. You're going to be a
Speaker 8: pope one day. That's what his brother said. It's like,
Speaker 8: you know, an altar boy.
Speaker 1: He said, you're gonna be And he looked up and said,
Speaker 1: a rod de frontest.
Speaker 8: You know you put that picture out of you being
Speaker 8: an altar boy. You could have been the Pope.
Speaker 1: Can't say, wouldn't that be Pope Willie the First? Wouldn't
Speaker 1: that be? Would that be something walked down in this balcony?
Speaker 1: Because I guarantee you one thing, you would be the Pope.
Speaker 1: Plus you'd be doing this show all this time. I'll
Speaker 1: make you a cardinal.
Speaker 8: I already with Cole Rain MLS soccer FC Cincinnati hosting
Speaker 8: Austin FC tomorrow it TQL Stadium, seven o'clock on ESPN fifteen.
Speaker 1: Thirty down in dirty segment. These are consequential times, would
Speaker 1: you agree? You're not kidding? And by the way, the
Speaker 1: Pope voted Republican in twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, twenty ten,
Speaker 1: he did not vote in twenty sixteen, and he voted
Speaker 1: absentee in twenty twenty four So what does this mean?
Speaker 1: Did he vote for Trump or Kamala the Headhunter? Which one?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's find out.
Speaker 8: Sure they'll find out, but always find out everything about it.
Speaker 1: Everything.
Speaker 8: Imagine that though, Pope, you're ten, you're six years old,
Speaker 8: you're sitting in that room.
Speaker 1: You're going to be a pope.
Speaker 8: You're one hundred and thirty, one hundred and thirty three cardinals. Right,
Speaker 8: they just start talking and all of a sudden, Pope,
Speaker 8: will you accept nomination? You must answer?
Speaker 1: Now? Can I think about that? Williat otter? A beautiful
Speaker 1: day here in the tri State, the nation, and the world.
Speaker 8: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stood Report.
Speaker 1: That was a ted Lasso reference. But you never got
Speaker 1: into that show, though, did you?
Speaker 4: That did not? That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Do they shoot people in that.
Speaker 4: No, I'm out.
Speaker 1: He likes to see blood like Tyrese Halliburton. Where's this
Speaker 1: dad going to be for the next game? And Indianapolis?
Speaker 1: Are those huge fifty thousand dollars fine for Tyrese? On
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW by Billy cunning in the Great America
Speaker 1: And looking to my left on the power of five
Speaker 1: Channel five and the final salute to a fallen deprety
Speaker 1: is occurring, John and you and I now from near
Speaker 1: the scene is a Brian Hamrick of Channel five and
Speaker 1: Brian Hamrick, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Brian,
Speaker 1: can you kind of set the scene? You've covered these
Speaker 1: things as I have, fortunately less and less times we
Speaker 1: have in the past, but can you set the stage
Speaker 1: as to what the community did outpulling of love for
Speaker 1: Deputy Sheriff Henderson.
Speaker 3: But I forget mister Cunningham. Yeah, you know, this has
Speaker 3: been this procession has been going on and the funeral
Speaker 3: still happening now at Spring Grove, but it you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's been up to Anderson Township through Cincinnati and
Speaker 3: where I was was right at the very scene where
Speaker 3: Officer Henderson was hit and killed. H and the procession
Speaker 3: passed right by there, and the procession was there at
Speaker 3: the very moment one week later that he was hit
Speaker 3: and killed. We saw, I mean, there were departments from
Speaker 3: all over the region that were part of this procession.
Speaker 3: It went twenty maybe twenty five minutes. I was told,
Speaker 3: maybe five miles of procession led with Hamilton County. The
Speaker 3: hearts came through, but we saw, you know, departments from
Speaker 3: all over the region, you know, like Morrow, Lebanon, Blanchester,
Speaker 3: Clear Creek. Then in northern Kentuck we had Florence, Boone County, Independence,
Speaker 3: Campbell County. I mean, it's just to name a few
Speaker 3: u and they went, you know, even further out, and
Speaker 3: of course all the local ones that were you know,
Speaker 3: of Hamilton County all were represented. And then not only that,
Speaker 3: but in addition, these other departments from around the region
Speaker 3: are also filling in because they wanted every single Hamilton
Speaker 3: County deputy who wanted to to be part of this,
Speaker 3: So all these other departments that were around pitched in.
Speaker 3: I was up at Springdale yesterday talking to them, and
Speaker 3: they were one of the departments that were going through
Speaker 3: cold rain, Like every department in the in the county
Speaker 3: did this and they just take on shifts and said,
Speaker 3: we'll cover this area, we'll cover that area, and it's
Speaker 3: just like a mutual weight kind of thing, only they're
Speaker 3: over there doing this during this funeral and procession and
Speaker 3: all of this event today, uh and as of yesterday
Speaker 3: as well. And it was interesting because I was talking
Speaker 3: to folks at Springdale and they're like, you know what,
Speaker 3: we know what it's like to be on the other side,
Speaker 3: because they had their officer Kyah Grant, remember back in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: She was throwing.
Speaker 3: Stopsticks and the guy swerved and hit her, and they said,
Speaker 3: you know, we know what it's like to be on
Speaker 3: that end. And it's really a huge feeling, you know,
Speaker 3: to have this this backup, to have these these other
Speaker 3: departments show you that we're here for you, we got
Speaker 3: your back. And so so that's what's happening really all
Speaker 3: around the area now, not just a procession and just
Speaker 3: to show there, but the show that you're not going
Speaker 3: to see out in the county where all the Sheriff's
Speaker 3: deputies would normally be patrolling. You've got all these departments
Speaker 3: who are out there as well. And it was a
Speaker 3: big day, you know, for to show the respect and
Speaker 3: the support for Deputy Henderson. You know, I mean, this
Speaker 3: is the things that were said. I'll tell you it
Speaker 3: was one of the most powerful eulogies that I think
Speaker 3: I've ever heard d Downing. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: guys had that the whole time, but that was a
Speaker 3: powerful eulogy. He didn't shy away from anything. He talked
Speaker 3: about this car because I'm not going to speak the
Speaker 3: name of the person that was driving it, but he
Speaker 3: said the car was like a bullet that had left
Speaker 3: a barrel. Basically, he said it was looking for a
Speaker 3: target and it didn't matter who it was, what uniform,
Speaker 3: what they looked like, what the badge was, what kind
Speaker 3: of hat they wore. That he was looking for a
Speaker 3: badge and someone in uniform to run down. So he
Speaker 3: talked about all that, and then he went on to
Speaker 3: talk about all the things about Larry Henderson, his his
Speaker 3: you know, uh, the swat team, the dive team, the
Speaker 3: metal of Valor, the foster parenting, getting ready to adopt.
Speaker 3: He had specific stories about all of these things, you know,
Speaker 3: and and and how he how he became his personality, Uh,
Speaker 3: how he would relieve other officers early like I got you, man,
Speaker 3: I got you. Now, you know, you get out of here.
Speaker 3: I'm on the job now. You know this kind of thing, Uh,
Speaker 3: the jokes, the kind of way he interacted with you.
Speaker 3: He did a really good job of going through this
Speaker 3: whole thing. And you know, I was standing up there
Speaker 3: at the U, up there at the scene where I
Speaker 3: was exactly one week ago today, overlooking that exact things bought,
Speaker 3: where that car was sitting, where the deputy had been transported,
Speaker 3: and I thought, man, that day, it was a nice
Speaker 3: day to start with. I know, my son graduated, so
Speaker 3: I was at that graduation in the morning that graduation
Speaker 3: was over, and the evening or the afternoon, graduation was
Speaker 3: coming in. So you had both hu graduation going out
Speaker 3: and graduation coming in. So it was really packed with vehicles.
Speaker 3: He may have been focused, you know, on that, but
Speaker 3: that's when this all happened. And it was a great
Speaker 3: day and it was perfect weather. And then before the
Speaker 3: day was over, it was cloudy, rainy, storms, lightning, and
Speaker 3: I thought, man, that was just uh, that was just
Speaker 3: like the mood of the day.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: It was very similar.
Speaker 1: You know, the eulogy of Lieutenant Dave Downing of c
Speaker 1: PD was incredible. He referenced the fact that that de
Speaker 1: Larry was the kind of guy that volunteered for the
Speaker 1: dangerous stuff. When I had on Charmaine McGuffey a couple
Speaker 1: of days ago, he volunteered to be on the dive team,
Speaker 1: and I said, well, I think I know what a
Speaker 1: dive team is. They would go to the Ohio River
Speaker 1: or a laker upon put on the equipment and feel
Speaker 1: at the bottom. Very dangerous, especially in the Ohio River
Speaker 1: at the bottom. Secondly, he volunteered to be on the
Speaker 1: bomb squad to disarm explosive devices. And then he volunteered
Speaker 1: for the swat team and whatever the most dangerous thing available,
Speaker 1: Larry said, I'll do it. Choose me. And then about
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years ago he saved a woman's life. That's
Speaker 1: how he got the medal. It's like the Medal of Honor.
Speaker 1: The Medal of Valor awarded by Sherman Simon Lease, who
Speaker 1: knew Larry and Sean Donovan, his chief deputy, knew and
Speaker 1: trained Larry Henderson, and at the funeral side, Lease was
Speaker 1: present in a wheelchair. He is ninety two years old
Speaker 1: and extremely bad health. He said, so, I said, I
Speaker 1: got to go for Sean Donovan goes, you have charmage
Speaker 1: McGuffey is there, Jay Gramkey, the chief deputy under mcguffey's
Speaker 1: first term, Chris Kentman the chief Departy. And then you
Speaker 1: had on top of it, New York City cops came
Speaker 1: Washington d C Comps where the Chicago Police Department was represented,
Speaker 1: And I look at this guy's life. He led it
Speaker 1: the right way. He retired in December, not quite sixty
Speaker 1: years old, leaving five kids and grandkids and foster kids alone.
Speaker 1: And he gave his life and he always took extra
Speaker 1: shifts because you know, you don't get rich being a
Speaker 1: deputy sheriff. So he was making twenty five bucks an
Speaker 1: hour as a special deputy, and he said, I'll do
Speaker 1: that for U.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 1: I talked to Tony Pike earlier today, the quarterback for UC.
Speaker 1: He said absolutely, Larry was with us, swapping stories, protecting
Speaker 1: us on our journeys. Went to Pittsburgh and won the
Speaker 1: game there when the Big East. Larry was there and
Speaker 1: he was like part of the team. All these pictures
Speaker 1: and Larry had affinity for dangerous circumstances. He and he's
Speaker 1: murdered four months after he leaves the bomb squad, the
Speaker 1: swat team, the dive team by a murderer who simply
Speaker 1: wanted to kill him because of what he represented.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy was according to police, this guy was
Speaker 3: just looking for the next badge he could find. And
Speaker 3: that's that's what happened. He was actually talking about going
Speaker 3: back and get involved in the deer program. He was
Speaker 3: talking about going back and being an SROE. Yeah, apparently
Speaker 3: he had you know, he'd done all his work here,
Speaker 3: but he and done everything he had, but he thought,
Speaker 3: you know, hey, you know what, I can still help out.
Speaker 3: Some kids want to go out there and be a there,
Speaker 3: a there or he had gone through the dere but
Speaker 3: he said, why don't I Why don't I go back
Speaker 3: and be an SRO. I can maybe help out in
Speaker 3: the school. So yeah, that guy was something nobody ever.
Speaker 1: You know, I met him once. I'm not sure you did,
Speaker 1: but I met him once at a sheriff's function. He
Speaker 1: was just one of those guys, a big smile on
Speaker 1: his face. He looked like Santa Claus, almost without the beard.
Speaker 1: Just a friendly guy. And I'm thinking, okay, and then
Speaker 1: I saw the picture and so many of us said
Speaker 1: I I know that guy right there now. Now as
Speaker 1: far as what's gonna what's going to happen next, I
Speaker 1: understand that the body of the person that was killed
Speaker 1: is still not buried, because it appears that Michael Wright
Speaker 1: and also his the criminal offense attorney of the murderer,
Speaker 1: would like to have more work done on that. And uh,
Speaker 1: there will be a call for this and a call
Speaker 1: for that. But I hope that we don't lose the
Speaker 1: feeling we have right now of the of the responsibility,
Speaker 1: the respect for law enforcement that seemingly only obviously given
Speaker 1: when there's a tragedy instead of during regular events. The
Speaker 1: last thing like this that was, of course, the the
Speaker 1: murder of Sonny Kim. When I'm whenever I'm at to
Speaker 1: get a heavy cemetery, I go off to the right
Speaker 1: of the Bishop Alders tomb and I and I say
Speaker 1: it prayer and our father at the at the graveside
Speaker 1: of Sonny Kim, who died in a similar way, he
Speaker 1: went to a scene called there by a nine to
Speaker 1: one one operator man with a gun. He went there
Speaker 1: thinking it was a service call. He turned out murdered
Speaker 1: by a guy named Hummins. And also, of course the
Speaker 1: other one was Kia Grant, and I guess it is.
Speaker 1: Was it ever determined on two seventy five whether that
Speaker 1: the driver of that vehicle wanted to kill a police
Speaker 1: officer or was this serving just done by mistake in.
Speaker 3: The sense, I don't know if that was ever even
Speaker 3: established at the end of the day on that one,
Speaker 3: it was yeah, right, yeah, it was. I think he
Speaker 3: went away for a long time. You know, I actually
Speaker 3: feel good that I don't remember the name of those guys,
Speaker 3: but I remember Kya Grant, and you know, I remember them,
Speaker 3: but I cannot remember any of the killers' names. And uh,
Speaker 3: and I'm kind of glad for that, you know, because
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm glad that doesn't even sit in my
Speaker 3: rain and take up any space. No, I don't want
Speaker 3: to take up space and sell somewhere though.
Speaker 1: Well, probably they're going to seek the death penalty, and
Speaker 1: if we don't have the death penalty for this kind
Speaker 1: of a case, there's no reason to have the death
Speaker 1: penalty because if you don't apply it to here. I
Speaker 1: felt the same way about Chad Dorman in Claremont County
Speaker 1: when he called in cold blood the father murdered his
Speaker 1: three children seven four and three years old prosecutor. They
Speaker 1: decided not to seek the death penalty, and I thought, well,
Speaker 1: if you don't seek the death penalty in that case,
Speaker 1: you don't have a death penalty anymore. And I think
Speaker 1: Connie Pillacher receives our props in the beginning, at least
Speaker 1: trying to get it. Whatever happens down the road, you
Speaker 1: and I will be long gone before it's ever imposed,
Speaker 1: but we'll see what happens. But all right, once again,
Speaker 1: Brian Hemrick, it's it's one of those things you kind
Speaker 1: of stop on a dime and you're just stunned by
Speaker 1: what's happened and the way these police officers and deputy
Speaker 1: sheriffs and others are seeing off the remains of Larry Henderson.
Speaker 1: It is remarkable for the respect and love we have
Speaker 1: for someone that many of us really never even met.
Speaker 1: It's just remarkable what law enforcement does for us, often
Speaker 1: without thanks. And I would encourage I did it last night,
Speaker 1: or happened to be somewhere the police officers there. I
Speaker 1: went up to them and said, thank you for what
Speaker 1: you do. Because you and I go to work, neither
Speaker 1: one of us think, okay, we might be killed today.
Speaker 1: At work. Every time a cop shows up, a CEO,
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, correctioned officer, you go to work
Speaker 1: understanding you might be killed, you might be maimed. That's
Speaker 1: part of the deal. It's not part of our jobs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's something you don't think about all the time. Anyway.
Speaker 3: You know, you get to happen to anybody anytime, you know,
Speaker 3: or time here is shorter than we we all think
Speaker 3: or wish it it was, maybe, But these guys that
Speaker 3: go out there and put themselves right on right in
Speaker 3: front of the lightning bolt every day, you know, that's
Speaker 3: a that's another you know, that's another thing. That's a
Speaker 3: whole different, a whole different thing. Uh. And we've got
Speaker 3: you know, officers all over this town today doing exactly that.
Speaker 3: This is this full event goes through. So you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's something to think about that those folks are
Speaker 3: out there and willing to do it. In this day
Speaker 3: and age that's more and more difficult.
Speaker 1: It gets harder and harder to recruit for these jobs.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens in the future. Brian Hamberger,
Speaker 1: I'm glad they're covering and looking to my left Channel
Speaker 1: five as we look, things are almost concluding. There's going
Speaker 1: to be a private ceremony for close friends and family
Speaker 1: only as he is put in the ground at Spring
Speaker 1: Grove Cemetery, and at some point.
Speaker 3: They wanted that part more private.
Speaker 1: And I think when you see a cop today or tomorrow,
Speaker 1: just thank them for their service and do it again
Speaker 1: to make their burdens less heavy. But once again, Brian Hamrick,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and we'll
Speaker 1: do it again, hopefully under a little less somber circumstances.
Speaker 3: Thanks again, Luk for Cunningham.
Speaker 1: Brian Hammer, Channel five, thank you very much. All let's
Speaker 1: continue with more. By the way, and on the political front,
Speaker 1: I would note that at this point it appears that
Speaker 1: Viveke Ramaswami's going to receive the near unanimous support of
Speaker 1: the Republican Party to be the next governor of the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio, because the vote I understand was sixty
Speaker 1: sixty one to three the Republican Party to make for
Speaker 1: ake Ramaswami, the candidate for governor coming up, and also
Speaker 1: John Houston. I'm going to have him on with me
Speaker 1: on Monday, was unanimous and their support, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens, but the vote was sixty one to three
Speaker 1: for a Ake Ramaswami against the wishes of Mike Dwine
Speaker 1: and Senator John Eustad was unanimous. So we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens next and say a prayer tonight for the repose
Speaker 1: of the soul of Larry Henderson is in the arms
Speaker 1: of God Almighty. As I speak, no greater love than
Speaker 1: this than a man would lay out his life for
Speaker 1: his friends and his family in his country. Two twenty
Speaker 1: four Home your reds. It was Radio seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 9: Our ballpark was so bad in Fresno they condemned it
Speaker 9: at season's end. And here's the crazy part about it.
Speaker 9: We won the dang California League championship that year. We
Speaker 9: were the best team in the league. Our bus broke
Speaker 9: down when we won the championship on the way back
Speaker 9: at the dim park.
Speaker 4: No kidding.
Speaker 9: Oh wow, you had to wear shower shoes everywhere, otherwise
Speaker 9: your feet were gonna be eating up off the outside corner.
Speaker 9: That's ball four. So the first two batteries against may
Speaker 9: will reach. Oh I'm not kidding. I walked out of
Speaker 9: red carpet Mississippi State into Fresno California, and I.
Speaker 1: Thought, so this is pro ball. Huh, that's what I thought.
Speaker 9: I mean, you had I didn't even know what shower
Speaker 9: shoes were. I mean, as soon as you took your
Speaker 9: socks off or you took your shoes off, you had
Speaker 9: to put on the shoes to walk around. It wasn't
Speaker 9: didn't matter if you going to the shower or not.
Speaker 9: It was just walking around the locker room.
Speaker 1: That's outstanding.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, we were playing a ball game and the
Speaker 9: fence blew down in the outfield right the middle of
Speaker 9: the game.
Speaker 1: It's terrible.
Speaker 7: Hello, I'm broadcasting, and it was saying I watched those
Speaker 7: games with Mississippi State with thunder and lightning, palm, arrow
Speaker 7: and Clark, and here comes a young Jeff Brantley.
Speaker 1: I said, he's a little guy to be pitching. They
Speaker 1: did a hell of a job, should have won it
Speaker 1: all that year, but they got there. But they had
Speaker 1: a first class organization. He gets the Fresno in the
Speaker 1: minor leagues and he's thinking, defences are blowing down, we
Speaker 1: have no.
Speaker 8: Food, no shower shoes, shot shower shower shoes, what what
Speaker 8: is the shower? I guess he walked around barefoot in
Speaker 8: Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: Huh, I don't know. I mean for some reason I
Speaker 1: started watching ESPN at the time, and that was like
Speaker 1: forty years ago watching Mississippi State. Yeah, and they should
Speaker 1: have won it all they had all those Major League
Speaker 1: Baseball exactly didn't note at the time, and then Thunder
Speaker 1: and Lightning got separate and apart. They hated each other.
Speaker 1: But then they had like the fortieth reunion or whatever.
Speaker 1: Now Thunder and Lightning, Clark and Palm Arrow back to
Speaker 1: the other. Bramtley's there. It's unbelievable the team they had,
Speaker 1: but they had one or two injuries and didn't make it.
Speaker 8: Well, what we need to do is get the cowboy
Speaker 8: in here as a stooge.
Speaker 1: He might be one afternoon.
Speaker 8: Let's get him in there well next week or something,
Speaker 8: because he's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Like to have Marty Brenahan talk about North Carolina and
Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson and the Rocky Boyman's not coming in because
Speaker 1: of this news that turned out not to be true.
Speaker 1: We think SI get me into the Stooge Report.
Speaker 8: Will he the Stooge Reporter's Approach service of our local
Speaker 8: tame Star heating and air conditioning dealers tamestar quality you
Speaker 8: could feel in Cincinnati. Coach Schmid heating and cooling five
Speaker 8: one three five three one sixty nine hundred spots.
Speaker 1: Thank you Roxy. The Reds Update eight.
Speaker 8: They open up a three game series up against those
Speaker 8: Astros tonight in each town. And it'll be Nick Martinez
Speaker 8: against five game winner Hunter Brown, who has a one
Speaker 8: point something eer.
Speaker 1: A lookout, so he's pretty good.
Speaker 8: Coverage begins six oh five Sports Talk Arnold carriers. Since
Speaker 8: I pitch at seven to ten, and then and then
Speaker 8: the game time is eight ten, no extra innings tonight,
Speaker 8: I'll come because the game's gonna last longer up to midnight.
Speaker 1: I may come in do it just for the hell
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 8: Bengals Update brought to you by Good Spirits and Party
Speaker 8: Town thirteen convenient locations in northern Kentucky. Pongo's holding a
Speaker 8: one day rookie mini camp today.
Speaker 1: And what does that mean? Like you and I can go?
Speaker 8: Well, most teams go Friday, Saturday, Sunday. In the past,
Speaker 8: they've done three days. I guess now it's only down
Speaker 8: to one.
Speaker 1: Can we go try out for something?
Speaker 8: I guess As Zach Taylor said today has no problem
Speaker 8: with Joe Burrow missing Monday's workout due to him attending
Speaker 8: the met Gala. No update on Trey Hendrickson's contract talks.
Speaker 1: Talks are ongoing. According to Espn'll see what happens.
Speaker 8: Top draft pick Shamar Stewart and second round selection Demetrius
Speaker 8: Knight did not work out as they are unsigned. Is
Speaker 8: that part of the deal, you get the deal done?
Speaker 8: I guess you well, I guess you know. I mean
Speaker 8: you're not signed. And what happens to get hurt? Of course,
Speaker 8: that happens around all here all the time.
Speaker 1: If you get hurt, you gotta play. If you have
Speaker 1: a strained groin, do you keep broadcasting? I got one
Speaker 1: right now, go ahead.
Speaker 8: College basketball Cincinnati finalizing a two year scheduling agreement to
Speaker 8: face off against the Louisville Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 8: Twenty twenty five contest will take place at Heritage Bank Center.
Speaker 1: What about Kelsey? Twenty twenty six at Freedom Hall and Louisville?
Speaker 1: What about Kelsey? He's coming in.
Speaker 8: The two teams are major rivals, of course at the
Speaker 8: old Metro Conference, and the Tats and the Cards have
Speaker 8: not played each other since twenty twenty two to twenty three.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting in about seven years from all this
Speaker 1: shakes out, how many major football conferences there will be?
Speaker 1: Maybe two? Correct? And the rest of we plan for
Speaker 1: mind me of Ohio and Akron.
Speaker 8: Uh Soccer FC Cincinnati hosting Austin FC tomorrow night. First
Speaker 8: time Austin has come into town. Austin, Austin Elmore. He's
Speaker 8: coming to see seven o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty. Now
Speaker 8: FCC is looking to sign MLS legend Key Kamara to
Speaker 8: a contract. He is the second all time leading scorer
Speaker 8: in MLS history, with one hundred and forty seven goals.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of him? Yes? See any is he
Speaker 1: better than MESSI?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: Well, one hundred and forty seven goals? Pretty good?
Speaker 8: How about at the second most of MLS, do we
Speaker 8: have some Coca coca?
Speaker 1: We got Harry Harry Kane's coming to town. Where's coca?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: He's I think he retired? What about might look alike rinaldo?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: He's still playing over there?
Speaker 8: And I think in Saudi Arabia making a lot of
Speaker 8: Jack said caucas there.
Speaker 1: No, it's Kaka. If your name was Kaka, would you
Speaker 1: change it to ze? You keep Kaka?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Coca. That is, he's a he's a soccer caca.
Speaker 8: That's you know, it's just it's it's a lou kaka
Speaker 8: sweet lips, lou lou caca.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, let's see.
Speaker 8: Of course we got the story about the new University
Speaker 8: of North Carolina Jordan Hudson baby being banned.
Speaker 1: But yay or nay, Rocky says she's banned. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, do you care? No? Good care less. According
Speaker 1: to North Carolina, she is the muse of their head
Speaker 1: coach Bill Belichick. And as you know, every man needs
Speaker 1: a muse. Fifty years his junior, I want your muse.
Speaker 1: I better not have a muse. I'd be in serious difficulty.
Speaker 1: I don't either. But nonetheless, we don't need a muse.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure that stand for something like news m
Speaker 8: is something US like MS thirteen something.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta be some kind of muse something.
Speaker 1: It's a siren in the night. It's an inspiration segment.
Speaker 1: It's like cacaa. That's about Harry Kane. Where's Harry Kane?
Speaker 1: Or well, he's he's coming to town in like about
Speaker 1: a couple of months.
Speaker 8: They're playing. They're playing a match down at TQL Stadium.
Speaker 8: Is his team's playing here? What about Harry Kane? Harry Cane,
Speaker 8: you see the mayor of some city in Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Is the same guy? No, that's that's a Caine, the
Speaker 1: Big Red Machine. That's different than Harry Kane. Correct, one
Speaker 1: of those two related, The Big Red Machine and I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 8: Harry's kind of small. A big Red Machine is big.
Speaker 8: It is tall, and the Big Red Machine was good.
Speaker 8: How about ty Resee of the Grade eight.
Speaker 1: We've got difficulties with a Halliburton might be fine fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for exhibiting a and he shall we say,
Speaker 1: a display that in the case disrespect for the game.
Speaker 1: When he hit the three against the Celtics, I would
Speaker 1: say he will appeal Tyrese Hall not knowing what he's
Speaker 1: doing at like a maybe a moment of insanity. Sounds
Speaker 1: like the new There aren't they?
Speaker 9: They up?
Speaker 8: They're up two games to none against again, Yes, and
Speaker 8: it'd be action. They were down by seven. I wonder
Speaker 8: most happy in the last two.
Speaker 1: Minutes to the Celtics did not score a basket and
Speaker 1: then they were down by seven points to forty seconds
Speaker 1: to go and lost.
Speaker 8: I Garret, you know what, I think that that thing's
Speaker 8: gonna end up going seven and the and the Celts
Speaker 8: winning at all. You think so to break the hearts
Speaker 8: of Knickerbocker fans everywhere.
Speaker 1: Well, Stephen A. Smith might Willis Reid got five games left, yeah,
Speaker 1: and the Celtics have to win four. The five Clyde,
Speaker 1: the Glide, Drexler or Frasier. I think Frasier's Clyde. The
Speaker 1: guy's exhibited the idea that it had large testicles the
Speaker 1: size of beach balls, and by doing so, he showed
Speaker 1: disrespect for the game and the NBA. After he hit
Speaker 1: that three, he said, there could be a fine coming
Speaker 1: your way with Ted McKay. Now, if you use your
Speaker 1: finger like on a gun, sort of a sign, then
Speaker 1: you might be suspended for a game. But if you
Speaker 1: show disrespect for the game, I'm saying you have big coons,
Speaker 1: in which case you might get a fifty thousand dollars fuck.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that guy.
Speaker 8: That guy can either write a check in ten seconds
Speaker 8: for that, or he's got it in his pocket.
Speaker 1: He's got a contract for two. He's got a million.
Speaker 1: I got sixty thousand into my pocket. Can I get changed? No,
Speaker 1: you're rolling shut your mouth. But tyresee could be hot segment.
Speaker 1: Where's all that money?
Speaker 4: Find?
Speaker 1: Money go to goes to NBA charities and they split
Speaker 1: it up and like baseball and all that things like
Speaker 1: the same thing. Red's community fun kind of a deal. Okay.
Speaker 1: Do you have hope for the Reds? I mean yes,
Speaker 1: they need the Nasty boys. And it's only what a
Speaker 1: month and two weeks into the season. About the nasty boys?
Speaker 1: Where's Myers when we need him? What about Norm? Get
Speaker 1: him up here?
Speaker 8: A storm of Norman? I think's running charter boats in Texas.
Speaker 8: I heard that, and uh divil, I don't know where
Speaker 8: he is. I guess someplace. A beast is the popa
Speaker 8: White Sox. Randy Myers could be out in the middle
Speaker 8: of nowhere?
Speaker 1: Is the Pope? A Cups is a reliever? Right at all?
Speaker 1: No something wrong? But according to his brother, the Pope's brother,
Speaker 1: some of the fans want the missile back. Bingo, you're
Speaker 1: the fastest pitch this year. Correct, we'll get him. What
Speaker 1: if the missile comes back to Cincinnati? Come out of
Speaker 1: the ballpen, let's go. But they've lost three or four
Speaker 1: games because of bullpen failures and the starting pitching is
Speaker 1: about as good.
Speaker 8: Well, bullpen failures. Defense not knowing where to throw the ball.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know the other night with McLean uh draw,
Speaker 8: you know, ball goes over his head. I don't know
Speaker 8: what's going on, you know. And and then uh done,
Speaker 8: got caught a second base and it should have that.
Speaker 8: That should have been that. I mean, all bought the base,
Speaker 8: but the umpire doesn't see it needs glasses. But then
Speaker 8: I think somebody uh watched a bunt in the game
Speaker 8: right and and right, and they budded it to the
Speaker 8: first basement instead of the third baseman, and he got
Speaker 8: a guy out at third.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean he got to know, you know.
Speaker 8: And then the other day that that Zuela guy is
Speaker 8: out there and they're yelling four four, and he's thinking
Speaker 8: the first first, thinking gol. That's when Washington scored a
Speaker 8: run when.
Speaker 1: He said four. He said, what club am I hitting right?
Speaker 1: Hit the wrong four? Well, he thought he he shanked
Speaker 1: one to the left at ken ken Dale on number
Speaker 1: four and we got to see you. But seg we
Speaker 1: got the World Cup, we got the Olympics, we got Trump,
Speaker 1: and we got the Pope America right now is doing
Speaker 1: pretty damn plus with the National Football Champions of Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Do we claim them? I don't care about for Ohio State,
Speaker 1: do you? But they're there. They're the football champs right right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So hell, I don't know, but these are special times
Speaker 1: we needed the reds Now to arise. According to your reporting,
Speaker 1: there have been two occasions one of new pope has
Speaker 1: been selected and the Bengals have done what this is
Speaker 1: an historical I look for these events in these cues
Speaker 1: in life.
Speaker 8: This is from a Jay Morrison, a good man who's
Speaker 8: covered sports for years around here from the athletic and
Speaker 8: in regarding a new pope, Leo the fourteenth, it's Pete
Speaker 8: Rose fourteen. There's that number again. The last two times
Speaker 8: the new Pope was elected in two thousand and five
Speaker 8: and twenty thirteen, the Cincinnati Bengals won the AFC North.
Speaker 1: Now who was elected pope in twenty oh five?
Speaker 8: This's he was fourteenth Pope John Paul the second no
Speaker 8: hope edict correct who was elected in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: That was Francis. That's it, Francis Francisco Papa, who was
Speaker 1: president in twenty oh five, I can only handle one
Speaker 1: thing at Pope's all right, we got big things happening,
Speaker 1: and got the Pope, got the World Cup, got the Olympics,
Speaker 1: and got Trump. Actually, I thought we're going to do
Speaker 1: fine yesterday. That's a shows what I know. That's a clue,
Speaker 1: right there? A Locke, that's for sure. Who was his
Speaker 1: vice president?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Dick Oh? I had named after Lawn the old movie
Speaker 1: star Lawn Chaney. Not that right there.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 8: He came into the booth one year you were sitting there. Yeah,
Speaker 8: he didn't even recognize anybody. All he wanted to do
Speaker 8: was talk about, uh, you know, being re elected, and
Speaker 8: he left in ten seconds, off to New Orleans. His
Speaker 8: wife was a nice a nice lady, but he was
Speaker 8: kind of a He got a.
Speaker 1: Stamp named after a stamp named after Barber. He was
Speaker 1: a nice lady, Barbara, she was president. Yeah, segment, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Get me out of the Stud's Report, please,
Speaker 1: and once again, may God hold firmly in his hands
Speaker 1: the soul of Larry Henderson. Amen to that.
Speaker 8: Will he everybody have a good weekend. We leave you
Speaker 8: with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 1: I hope he'll be with us next week. Until remember,
Speaker 1: no matter how new, the safest device in your car
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