WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:09.880 Now, Hi, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this rather 2 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:13.000 somber Friday afternoon in the Triesdate Reds Baseball kicks off 3 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:16.280 about six oh five to night, tough series and hot Land. 4 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:20.280 They're in Houston, of course to play the astronomical see 5 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:23.000 what happens down there. But today's all about the funeral 6 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:26.839 of WT. Larry Henderson and the things he did for 7 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:29.600 our country and many. It is part of the tradition 8 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:33.359 to have maybe a policeman or a constable, or a 9 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:36.359 sheriff or someone from every state in the Union, and 10 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:40.079 turnout for Larry has been unbelievable. The services are ongoing 11 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:42.840 now as I speak, with a funeral in spring Grove 12 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:44.799 later on this afternoon. But joining you and I now 13 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:47.560 is the Richard K. Jones, the Sheriff of Butler County. 14 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:50.039 And first of all, before we get to the kindness 15 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:54.520 that you displayed in providing apparatuss for the funeral, including 16 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:56.439 the case on and the ride of his horse, et cetera, 17 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:01.799 what special concern do you have in today's world that 18 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:05.359 you cannot be involved in an incident, but you're targeted 19 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:08.640 because of the uniform you wear for death. It is 20 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:11.200 something different about this one than all the other ones. 21 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:17.840 Listen, the whole world is upside down and the United 22 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:22.760 States and it's people are full of hate, people that 23 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:26.319 weren't full of hate before or more full of hate today, 24 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:32.280 and we have its generational hate. People in college have 25 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:37.640 been taught to hate and just over just about anything. 26 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:43.719 And when you have a deputy sheriff directing traffic at 27 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:48.159 a fun event, this is where people are graduating that 28 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:53.439 you see and you're directing traffic and you are targeted 29 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:59.599 to be murdered, it's it's unbelievable. It's a cowardice thing 30 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:04.560 to do. And to pick somebody at random that's in 31 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:07.719 front of you and murder them with your vehicle. 32 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:09.560 It's disgusting. 33 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:16.240 And because of that, we're having to mourn a hero's 34 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:21.560 death and law enforcement and then the communities all over 35 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:24.479 the United States, all over the state of Ohio, the 36 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:29.280 flags are at half mask and we're all sticking together 37 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:33.439 and he's going to be put out like the hero 38 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:38.759 that he is, but it doesn't make his family. They're 39 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:42.400 going to be missing somebody at their table. They're going 40 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:46.240 to be missing somebody that's fun, that's gave their entire 41 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:51.639 life to protecting the community by a cowardice act. 42 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:55.039 You know, you know yesterday when I watched the news 43 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:57.800 conference at Connie Pillah, I said to others that this 44 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:01.960 is a defining moment in a new prosecutor's life, and 45 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:06.039 that is if you don't provide the death penalty for 46 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:09.039 someone like Rodney Hinton Junior, thirty eight years old. If 47 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:11.400 this case is not the death penalty, you don't have 48 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:14.360 a death penalty in Ohio, like in Clairemont County when 49 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.439 that one young father brutally and cold blood murdered his 50 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:20.840 own three little boys, and that prosecutor decided not to 51 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.599 seek the death penalty because it was difficult. So well, 52 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:25.560 Clairemont County doesn't have a death penalty. If that guy 53 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:27.800 didn't get the death penalty, there can't be one. Would 54 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.000 you agree that if we have a death penalty, the 55 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:36.120 person who in cold blood brutally murdered, murdered Larry Henderson 56 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:39.280 as obviously should get the death If this doesn't happen 57 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:41.039 in this case, we don't have a death penalty. 58 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:44.560 I agree with you. We do not have a death 59 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:47.960 penalty at that point. And this is a brand new 60 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:53.759 prosecutor and uh, we've got to do what we've got 61 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:58.919 to do to protect law enforcement. Without safety and without 62 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:03.039 security in our lives, we have nothing. And I've told 63 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:07.240 you before, in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, there's like ten 64 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:11.960 of them, fifteen of them. Air food safety is at 65 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:15.680 the very top. And we've got to feel safe in 66 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:19.680 our community. And when this happens, we've got to do 67 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:24.639 what we have to send a message. If you murder 68 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:29.519 police officers, if you murder law enforcement, you will be 69 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:33.759 punished appropriately and I mean appropriately. 70 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:38.319 Well, let's talk about what Butler County did for Larry Henderson. 71 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:42.279 This is a great gift that you're giving. Explain the 72 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.279 riderless horse and what you're providing to Hamilton County. 73 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:52.720 Basically, the cason is if you look up Kaison, it's 74 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:56.879 a carriage that was yearsed during the Civil War. They 75 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:00.319 carried cannons on them and there were so many people 76 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:04.399 killed they had to move the bodies. So they took 77 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:07.879 the cannons off of the carriages that were pulled with 78 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:12.720 horses and they put the bodies on the casson. And 79 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:20.040 then after that they developed funerals of heroes that were 80 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:24.040 killed in action and they would use the actual caissons 81 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:28.680 to pull with the horses with the casket, the flag 82 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:32.560 draped casket, and if you look online you'll see where 83 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:36.040 they've done. The President of the United States, the President Kennedy, 84 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:39.959 other law enforcement people that have been murdered, died in 85 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:44.639 the line of duty. They have a cason that pulls that. 86 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:49.079 We have a truck we buried over thirty two I 87 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:52.839 believe it is at thirty three countin Larry. Their names 88 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:55.120 are on the back of our semi truck that hauls 89 00:05:55.720 --> 00:06:00.800 the cason the horses. We've used it for the past 90 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:06.560 twenty five years and we've buried soldiers from Iraq, Afghanistan, 91 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:09.839 soldier that came back from World War II and they've 92 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:14.720 just recovered their bodies. We've buried police officers, law enforcement 93 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:22.319 different states. And this is a piece equipment was made 94 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:25.879 twenty five years ago through donations. It was forty thousand 95 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:29.879 dollars and it was all donations made by off of 96 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:34.319 a replica a person that makes replica equipment. 97 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:36.360 That are for. 98 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:41.920 Civil war reenactments or war reenactments. This blueprint was actually received. 99 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:45.879 We got the blueprint from the Pentagon from actual kasons 100 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:48.759 that were used in the Civil War, there was blueprints 101 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:54.240 and it's specifically made right off of that. The kaisons 102 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:57.720 that you see that they use at Arlington Cemetery are 103 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:02.000 actual kaissons from the Civil War, but this one is 104 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:05.839 made off of the blueprints. It's the most honorable way 105 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:11.839 that you can be honored. When the horses are pulling 106 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:17.759 the caison, there's a riderless horse, usually behind the cason 107 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:22.160 that signifies that an officer or someone has died that 108 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:25.720 is being pulled by the cason, And on the riderless horse, 109 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:30.160 the boots are put on the horse backwards, I meaning 110 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:33.600 there's no rider on the horse. When you see this, 111 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.560 there will not be a dry eye anywhere. It's very somber, 112 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:43.560 it's very well done, and it makes you so proud 113 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.920 that we honor people that have risked their lives for 114 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:52.319 us every single day. And we're honored that Hamilton County 115 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:56.879 has asked us to help with us. We buried one 116 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:02.560 or two police officers in Cincinnati with the and it's 117 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:06.279 an honor for us to be asked to help with 118 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:10.480 what they've got going on, and it's we're just honored 119 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:12.839 to be asked to be a small part of this. 120 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.199 Sheriff when I had on his criminal defense attorney, but 121 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:19.120 I'm referring to it Rodney Hinton Junior's thirty eight I 122 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:23.839 had on Clyde Bennett criminal defense attorney. He was discussing 123 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:27.920 the unnecessary aspects of the shooting. And as a sheriff, 124 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:30.600 as a law enforcement official for about thirty five years, 125 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:34.799 when you tell your men a shoot don't shoot, which 126 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:37.200 are scenarios? And I've gone through a shoot don't shoot 127 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.919 scenario and I didn't do very well. You have a 128 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:42.480 split second decision to take someone's life or to be 129 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:46.559 shot yourself or others. In this case, the four young 130 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.320 young men eighteen years old, according to media accounts, heisted 131 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:53.799 a Kia from Edgewood, Kentucky and Ken County, and they 132 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:56.399 brought it somehow over to Hambleton County, and they wanted 133 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.840 to be in an area up on East Price Hill 134 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:01.799 with a condo project. They could be by themselves, one 135 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:04.399 way in, one way out. They went into that area 136 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:08.080 and it was tripped along the way by a tracker 137 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:10.960 on the Kia that indicated where the car was, and 138 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.200 so the police did not know. When they came up, 139 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.720 they were about to encounter four individuals with two guns, 140 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.320 including a nine millimeter with an extended meg. So in 141 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.679 that situation, the two police cars came up with their 142 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.080 lights on, sirens on, and the four of them immediately 143 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.679 got out of the car started running. One of the 144 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:32.360 four took the nine millimeter with him, that was Ryan Hinton, 145 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:35.559 eighteen years old. The other three simply ran like jack 146 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.279 rabbits into the woods. And Ryan Hinton had the opportunity 147 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.879 at that point to run away. He could have simply 148 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:45.039 got He could have followed his three brother thieves and 149 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:46.960 simply run into the woods, which would have made it 150 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:49.919 difficult to find, but with K nine units and drones, 151 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:53.279 not so difficult today anymore. But nonetheless, he decided to 152 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:55.840 take with him as he began to run, a nine 153 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:59.240 millimeter with an extended meg, and when he took about 154 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.039 three or four steps, he fell to the pavement and 155 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:05.120 the gun fell with him. At that point, two or 156 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:09.360 three officers on the body cam you hear him shouting gun, gun, gun, 157 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:12.919 and an officer's mind, it's a life and death situation 158 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:17.080 after that. At that point, when Ryan Hinton, having picked 159 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:18.799 up the gun from the car in the first place, 160 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:21.320 having taken three or four steps, knowing that police are 161 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:23.840 right there and he falls and drops the gun. He 162 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:27.039 then picks up the gun. Bad choice. That's when police 163 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:29.159 are an extra alert. When you hear gun, gun, gun, 164 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:31.320 you know you're about to have a life and death situation. 165 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:33.759 He could have run with the other three straight ahead 166 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.480 into the woods. Instead. There were two large dumpsters that 167 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:41.960 provided camouflage for fire whatever he wanted to do. But 168 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.720 when the officer heard gun, gun, gun, that's when he 169 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:47.320 pulled out his weapon. The weapons are not pulled out 170 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:49.480 to chase somebody. They were pulled out because the word 171 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:53.600 gun gun gun was expressed within two seconds of gun, gun, gun. 172 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:56.720 There were five shots fired by the Cincinnati police officer, 173 00:10:57.159 --> 00:11:01.159 and according to the defense team, the Ryan Hinton on 174 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:05.159 the video appears to be running away from the officer 175 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:08.559 without the gun being directly pointed at the cop. When 176 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:11.240 the officer gave a statement, he said the gun was 177 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:14.000 pointed at me. He may be unlining the word. May 178 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:17.159 be wrong about that, because it would take I had 179 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:20.200 on Rob Sanders, your friend from Kenton County yesterday, who 180 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.000 said it takes about a quarter of a second for 181 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:24.399 a gun to be in someone's hand to go from 182 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:26.600 straight ahead to left, and you have a quarter of 183 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:28.799 a second to make a decision, which is the length 184 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:31.679 it takes to blink your eye. Do you see anything 185 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:34.960 wrong as an expert in these areas, that the police 186 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:37.080 officer from Cincinnati did anything wrong. 187 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:42.799 No, I do not listen when you're dealing with a gun. 188 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:45.200 If you're standing in front of somebody in your face 189 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.559 and then they have a gun and you're a police officer, 190 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.559 you can even have your gun on your finger on 191 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:55.840 the trigger. If they decide to shoot you before your 192 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:59.759 brain reacts to your finger, they can pull the trigger 193 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.039 and shoot you. Even if you're both standing there with 194 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:07.240 a gun pointing at each other. That the brain and 195 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:09.600 you see them by the time you pull the trigger 196 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.039 too late. Police officers are shot when they're running. They 197 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.840 can turn around and shoot you. Just the blink of 198 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:20.799 an eye. You can be shot. And it's always easy 199 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:24.039 to second guess. Anybody shouldn't have had the gun, shouldn't 200 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.120 have been running with the gun, shouldn't have been taking 201 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:31.159 somebody's car, And listen, police officers risk their lives every day. 202 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:32.799 You don't have to wait for somebody to shoot at 203 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:37.519 you first to return fire. And like I said, if 204 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:40.480 you're standing there facing someone with a gun. 205 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:41.799 I've been in training. 206 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:45.799 Before, where you have your finger on the trigger, they 207 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.919 can still shoot you before you can return fire. Nope, 208 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:52.919 the police officer goes home and the person with the 209 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:58.240 gun doesn't go home. Shouldn't do that, shouldn't be involved 210 00:12:58.279 --> 00:12:58.679 in that. 211 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:01.039 And it's it's. 212 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:05.039 Sad for everybody, But you can be shot in such 213 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:08.320 short periods of time. Police officers don't have to be 214 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:11.600 shot at first to return fire or to stop the 215 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:12.840 threat period. 216 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.799 And officers are trained. Don't look at someone's hips or 217 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:17.919 their knees, or their feet or their eyeballs, look at 218 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:20.919 their hands. Why would an eighteen year old. Of course 219 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:23.759 I've heard this argument too from the left. He had 220 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:25.879 the right it's an open carry state. Well, you can't 221 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:28.399 possess a handgun in Ohio under the age of twenty one. 222 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:31.759 But that point to the side. What is the motive 223 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.000 or purpose of having an extended mag on a nine 224 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.600 millimeter in the hands of an eighteen year old illegally? 225 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.080 What's the purpose of the magazine extended? 226 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:44.399 I assume, well, I know what that part is, so 227 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:47.840 you can have more bullets fire. Yeah, the extended magazine 228 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:50.159 so you can you can instead of having list. I'm 229 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:54.080 just making a point. Instead of having eight shots, maybe 230 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:58.200 you have sixteen and with a nine milimeter. It doesn't 231 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.879 matter what caliber the gun is. Us the extented magazine 232 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.120 and say you have more shops to fire. And when 233 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:09.320 you're running with a gun away from the police, the 234 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:13.480 police does not have to And when you're in if 235 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:17.200 you're in fear of your life, which police officers are 236 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:22.159 at risk every day, it's none of it's good with 237 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:25.480 these handguns. And where did he get the handgun? Who 238 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:30.559 supplied the handguns? That'll come out maybe later. You have 239 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:34.279 to assume either somebody gave the gun, they stole the gun, 240 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:40.159 they bought it somewhere at a flea market. Probably maybe 241 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:43.039 a stolen gun, don't know, might belong to a family member. 242 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:47.480 Don't know that, but we will know because we have 243 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:52.000 the gun, we had the magazine. And it's a terrible tragedy. 244 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:55.639 But you shouldn't point guns at the police. You shouldn't 245 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:59.120 be being chased by the police. And the police have 246 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:01.960 to defend their they don't have to wait for you 247 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:03.159 to pull a gun. 248 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:04.159 Shoot there. 249 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:05.480 Yeah, the return. 250 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:07.320 Fire, that's what the left says. You have to wait 251 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:09.879 to see what his intent was well, I think his 252 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:13.559 intent was obvious from the beginning. He had every opportunity 253 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.600 to save his own life and to save the life 254 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:21.000 indirectly of Chief of Deputy Larry Henderson, and every decision 255 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:23.759 made by Ryan Hinton, the eighteen year old boy was 256 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:27.320 the wrong decision that cost his life. And the fact 257 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:30.080 the officer was put in that situation, his life's never 258 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:32.039 going to be different for the rest of his life. 259 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:35.399 And his name's not out there yet, but nonetheless, at 260 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:37.399 some point it's going to get out there. He'll have 261 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:40.399 to testify in court. Marcy's law means you don't have 262 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:42.440 to release the name, but at some point the name's 263 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:45.799 out there. I'm told by those at CPD he's extremely 264 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.840 well respected. I'm told he's been he's been a cop 265 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:52.320 for many, many years. He's had no other shoot incidents whatsoever. 266 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:55.759 And he found himself within two seconds of gun gun 267 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:57.960 gun to a life and death situation, the result of 268 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.759 which might have been his murder and the murder of 269 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:03.840 his fellow cops. I was told by one knowledgeable person 270 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:06.799 that he had ability to have twenty two shots fired 271 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.279 in a period of about five seconds, almost like a 272 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:12.879 machine gun, and the person that made this happen was 273 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:16.519 Ryan Hinton, and the person who murdered Larry Henderson was 274 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:19.240 Rodney Hinton, the thirty eight year old who, according to 275 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:23.360 Prosecutor County Pillage, waited in the turn lane for traffic 276 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:25.879 to clear. He had time to clear his own head 277 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:27.519 to think about do I really want to do this? 278 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:32.000 He saw one police officer by himself, operating a traffic 279 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:35.440 device to assist moms and dads and boys and girls 280 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:39.559 to cross the street for UC graduation. He specifically murdered 281 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:42.759 Larry Henderson in cold blood, and he waited till the 282 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:44.879 traffic declared to make sure he had a clear shot 283 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:47.440 at him. They've checked out the accelerator of the vehicle. 284 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:51.480 It's fully operational. There was no skid marks. And so 285 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.559 the person in charge of this entire series of events 286 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:57.399 is one on only Ryan Hinton, and right now he's 287 00:16:57.440 --> 00:16:59.159 probably burning in hell for what he did. 288 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:05.599 Hey, listen, this this whole thing is a mess. But 289 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:10.480 I know the Cincinnati Police Department. They train and they 290 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:15.079 trains some of the most well trained police officers in 291 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.279 the entire country. And I can say that for a fact, 292 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:23.839 they train, train, train, and uh, the police Department and Cincinnati. 293 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:27.200 They have a right to go home every night. Yes, 294 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.720 you sent point done that you can't shoot at him. 295 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:36.319 And they so there heroes. They risked their lives every day. 296 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:41.359 And it all started when this guy, eighteen year. 297 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:42.200 Old had the gun. 298 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:45.119 I must run him with it with a fool magazine 299 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:51.799 and you hesitate, you die. E Temple had listen, had 300 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:56.359 no choices, none wants or whatever. But the woman that 301 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:01.440 ran and killed Larry, he waited like somebody hiding in 302 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:05.400 the roots, like a coward, and where didn't have a chance, 303 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:09.759 and accelerated in a car and ran over him and 304 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:12.680 killed him. And now he wants sympathy and he will 305 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:14.480 not get that. He will not get that for me. 306 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:19.160 He's been in my jail before, and he's been in 307 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.599 Butler County. He's been arrested, he's been here, should have 308 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.839 been in prison, but he wasn't. And these people get 309 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:31.480 out of prison way too early. And this person is 310 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:35.839 no more than a cold blood at murder that's murdered 311 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:39.119 a police officer and should get the full extent of 312 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.079 the law, which includes the death. 313 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:44.160 County sheriff. We got to run. But Rodney Hinton spent 314 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.000 time with you the murderer thirty eight years old. We 315 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:49.880 got to run, Sheriff. Thanks for your great participation in 316 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.640 law enforcement. Stay safe and give my best all the 317 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:55.759 many women the Butler County Sheriff's Department. Sheriff, once again, 318 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:58.480 thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank 319 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:02.720 you Sheriff, Thank you, sir, God pleasure. Let's continue with more. 320 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:06.440 Rodney Hinton, a known criminal spending time in the Butler 321 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.720 County jail before he murdered in cold blood Larry Henderson. 322 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:16.559 Bill cunninghams Radio seven hundred WW by Billy Cunningham. Very 323 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:20.359 emotional Friday afternoon in the Tri State. Coming up after 324 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:23.000 one o'clock today will be a representative of the Catholic 325 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:29.279 League about Leo the fourteenth, Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost of Chicago, 326 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:33.079 talk about that after one o'clock today, looking to my left, 327 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:36.160 to my right, a fallen heroes on his way to 328 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:40.160 his final resting place at Spring Grove Cemetery. And there 329 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:45.319 are hundreds or thousands of Cincinnatians standing outside their homes 330 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:51.319 saluting in silence the passing of the casket of Deputy 331 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:53.799 Larry Henderson, who gave us life for you and me 332 00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:57.799 in ways that many of us find quite admirable to 333 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:00.240 give your life for another. A wise man once said 334 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:02.839 that no greater love than this, And someone lay down 335 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:05.960 their life for their friends, for their family, for their country, 336 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:09.160 and that's certainly a life in times of Larry Henderson. 337 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:15.720 And I would note that the casket to my left 338 00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:19.160 is approaching Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard where he was 339 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:23.519 murdered by Rodney Hinton Junior in an active rage and 340 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:27.119 unspeakable violence for which there should be a quick and 341 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:30.400 rapid adjudicate, a judication, and then the death penalty should 342 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:33.599 be imposed. And I know I'm gonna have on Mondyar Tuesday, 343 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:37.000 Senator Bernie Marino, who wants to make the killing of 344 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.920 a police officer, a deputy sheriff, a corrections officer a 345 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:47.400 hate crime slash capital offense under federal statutes. And it 346 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:51.839 takes away from local communities the ability to, shall we 347 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:55.319 say not, provide the ultimate penalty for those who commit 348 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:59.000 such unspeakable acts. And I have some doubt whether or 349 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:02.119 not actually there's going to be a conviction for the 350 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:06.240 death penalty for Rodney Hinton. He has a fine criminal 351 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:09.440 defense attorney Clyde Bennett is going to do his best 352 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:12.920 to indicate that he's suffering from mental disease would effect plus, 353 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:17.759 Ohio is a relatively new statute that says that's sentencing. 354 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:20.960 If you're at that point mentally ill in some way 355 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:23.319 or another, you can't get the death penalty. All you 356 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:27.160 can receive is life imprisonment without possibility of parole, and 357 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:30.039 many might consider that to be worse than death itself. 358 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.279 I don't know, but nonetheless I want to give credit 359 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.680 to Connie Pillage, our New Hamlety County prosecutor, for seeking 360 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:39.960 the death penalty in this case. Whether actually twenty years 361 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:43.000 from now may be imposed as another matter, when I 362 00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:45.759 had on Joe Dieters repeatedly on these kinds of cases, 363 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:48.440 once they get to federal court after maybe three to 364 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:51.400 five years in the state system, many federal judges don't 365 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:53.559 want to post the death penalty on anyone, and they 366 00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:55.559 simply put the file on their drawer and refuse to 367 00:21:55.599 --> 00:22:00.119 act on it completely. And so it's haphazardly whether death 368 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:02.359 penalty can be imposed on anyone in the country. If 369 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:05.880 it's ever used, it's got to be used on Rodney 370 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:09.440 Hinton junior thirty eight years old, who purposely killed someone 371 00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:12.359 representing law and order. Also, this should be in a 372 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:15.599 sense of hate crime. He wasn't killed because his name 373 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:17.799 was Larry Henderson. He was killed because he wore the 374 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:21.240 uniform and this person wanted to kill a cop. We 375 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:25.039 can sort out the insanity defense later, which is quite 376 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:29.920 unlikely to be successful, but who knows. And on that front, 377 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:34.759 A couple of years ago, a vicious, cold blood murderer 378 00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:40.160 named Chad Dorman in Claremont County brutally executed his own 379 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:45.480 three children seven, four and three years old, three little boys, Clayton, 380 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:49.160 Hunter and Chase. Prosecutor Clairemont County didn't want to go 381 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:53.039 through the difficulties and the problems of seeking the death 382 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:56.240 penalty for Chad Dorman, so he got life imprisonment without 383 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:59.400 possibility of parole times three, which means we're going to 384 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:02.119 support him for the next thirty to forty years as 385 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:04.799 he watches football games, get three square meals to day, 386 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:08.000 et cetera. And that's the way it is. So I 387 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:11.039 hope that when this case comes up for trial, probably 388 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:15.920 next year sometime, that the jury convicts Rodney Hinton. There's 389 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:17.960 no question who done it. This isn't who did it. 390 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:20.880 We know who did it and why he did it. 391 00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:23.519 We know why he did it. He wanted revenge against police. 392 00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:25.799 And a little bit of news was made a few 393 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:29.440 minutes ago when Richard K. Jones said that Rodney Hinton's 394 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:31.599 thirty eight years old, has spent time in the Butler 395 00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:34.519 County jail. We were led to believe by some he 396 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:37.880 had deminimus previous criminal record. I don't know. That doesn't 397 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:39.519 mean you get two or three bites of the apple. 398 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:43.640 When you purposely and cold blood intentionally kill a police 399 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:47.400 officer unconnected to the squabbles in your own life and 400 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:51.359 just kill because he represents something, that person should get 401 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:53.960