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<v Speaker 1>Kf I AM sixty. You're listening to Later with Moe

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Later with Moe Kelly on kf I AM six

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<v Speaker 2>forty live everywhere on your iHeart app. I'm Mark Ronner

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<v Speaker 2>in for mo He and Tuala have a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>nights off, and I'll be sitting in same show, same vibe,

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<v Speaker 2>same crew, same chair all although I hope it's Scotch guarded,

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<v Speaker 2>might as well keep it consistent. I'm usually chiming in

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<v Speaker 2>from the safety of the news booth, but I could

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<v Speaker 2>get used to this. I thought for a second I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna have to run back and forth all night,

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<v Speaker 2>but somebody will be filling in for me. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have fun tonight. It's Friday night, no need to get

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<v Speaker 2>too heavy. We're gonna do name that cult movie classic,

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<v Speaker 2>just like normal. We have a special theme tonight. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a special surprise guest at eight pm and a

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<v Speaker 2>Runner report after that with a rundown on some stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to watch and plenty of juvenile borderline inappropriate back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth with the crew with me tonight is my pal

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany Hobbs, who you know from the viral loads, segments

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<v Speaker 2>and from some time in the host chair herself. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no one I'd be happy to have with me tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in case I have a stroke or about of incontinence.

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<v Speaker 2>We got this right, We have this. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>being here with me, Tiffany having me. There is no

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<v Speaker 2>one I'd rather be with. I'll tell you this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>you've probably picked up on this because the clues aren't

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<v Speaker 2>exactly subtle. I'm a fairly guarded person and you just

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<v Speaker 2>charged right through my barriers right when we met. I'm like, no, please,

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<v Speaker 2>do not approach, and you just you announced right away

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<v Speaker 2>when we met. Sorry, I'm a hugger and that was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of it. We can go into detail about my

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<v Speaker 2>PTSD another time, but I'll just say I think you

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<v Speaker 2>should be a therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I've heard that before, and if anything,

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<v Speaker 3>I would definitely love to practice on you.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not so sure about that. Maybe we should

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<v Speaker 2>just leave it right there. In the fancy control room,

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<v Speaker 2>we have Foosh working the board. Phosh, we got this tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We absolutely do. You got my back in case I

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<v Speaker 2>just start crying abruptly decompensating. Absolutely, yeah, okay, and we

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<v Speaker 2>got some stuff for you to play, and I'm relying

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<v Speaker 2>on your supernatural sense of timing. I need you all

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<v Speaker 2>to know that I am not ordering food for everyone tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that change anything for anyone to hear? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to be You're gonna be stingy with the rim

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<v Speaker 2>shots now, fosh filling us? Okay, all right, I see

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<v Speaker 2>what we're in for. Filling us in the news booth,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Caravella. I hope you know, Andrew, the news anchor

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<v Speaker 2>plays it completely straight and sticks strictly to the news

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<v Speaker 2>like a vulcan for the entire three hours.

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<v Speaker 4>You can do that, right, You're not mo Okay? All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Will you have a trainee in there with you tonight

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<v Speaker 2>eventually when their uber arrives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I see.

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<v Speaker 2>I was helping trainer and I noticed a pretty quick

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<v Speaker 2>learning curve and I told her, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>my job pretty soon, and I just didn't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be this soon. So nice to be

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<v Speaker 2>expendable story. I'm going to tell you lots of fun

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<v Speaker 2>stuff tonight, including that special guest. But before we get

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<v Speaker 2>to that big thanks to Robin our authority figure of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Little.

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<v Speaker 4>When Robin called me.

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<v Speaker 2>She asked if I'd be interested in hosting some shows,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, I thought you'd never ask And she said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why didn't you ask me?

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<v Speaker 4>And what I should have said.

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<v Speaker 2>Was because I was too focused on working hard to

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<v Speaker 2>be the best news anchor I could possibly be for

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<v Speaker 2>you and Chris Little at KFI. What I actually said

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<v Speaker 2>was something like, uh, I don't know, without making things

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<v Speaker 2>too cheesy right off the bat, thanks to Mow and

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<v Speaker 2>to Walla. Really too great and generous friends. Anybody be

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<v Speaker 2>lucky to have, not like your radio Hey, you're great,

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<v Speaker 2>buddy type of friends, but the kind who act like

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<v Speaker 2>friends when they don't have to.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he's watching or listening.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're not hearing this, And I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 2>it to their faces, because that is not our love language.

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<v Speaker 2>Busting on each other is our love language, and that

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<v Speaker 2>has actually showed up in some promos. Fush can you

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<v Speaker 2>play the first one? Whoshi are you alive? Will you

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<v Speaker 2>play the first promo? You've always wanted your face on

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<v Speaker 2>a Wheati's box, haven't you? Nope, because you've made references

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<v Speaker 2>to wanting buildings named after you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Wheedye's boxes even a step down from that, Wheaty's boxes

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<v Speaker 2>reserved for athletes.

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<v Speaker 5>Moe Kelly name on the building Reserve for Legends Live

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<v Speaker 5>seven to ten pm on KFI and on demand anytime

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<v Speaker 5>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>So, of course I enjoy making fun of Moe's ego.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody who has mentioned, even in passing, wanting a building

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<v Speaker 2>named after them, that's fair game. But that's not all

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<v Speaker 2>there is. Fush, she got one more in there. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>hear that.

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<v Speaker 6>My doctor put them on the scale and I was

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<v Speaker 6>at one ninety one and considered obese.

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<v Speaker 4>You're looking at me, am I obese?

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<v Speaker 7>Not at all, not at all. You look great.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, I'm one eighty one right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Because I always want to have a reference point as

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<v Speaker 6>to where I was, But I don't obsess. I usually

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<v Speaker 6>weigh myself once a month something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Not getting on the scale, if you have one, takes

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of discipline.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh it's a lot, because I know it could ruin

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<v Speaker 6>my day. Now, I don't feel so bad about getting

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<v Speaker 6>on the scale last week. Feel a little better about myself.

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<v Speaker 6>I gotta say, I think you're looking a little pear shaped. Oh, boy,

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<v Speaker 6>the FCC is saving you right about it. So that's

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<v Speaker 6>our love language.

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<v Speaker 4>It's what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's how men express affection for other men, apart from

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<v Speaker 2>putting our hands on each other's thighs. Also, Mo and

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<v Speaker 2>Tuala a couple of world class fellow nerds, even if

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<v Speaker 2>Tuala doesn't like the original Star Trek, and even if

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<v Speaker 2>Moe is unable to appreciate the beauty and profundity of

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<v Speaker 2>the old David Carrety in Kung Fu series. When you

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<v Speaker 2>love people, you accept their flaws and you mock them

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<v Speaker 2>relentlessly constantly. I say, we're off and running, Tiffany, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you feeling, Mark?

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<v Speaker 7>I love you flaws in Pau.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, don't make me cry. Then my goal is you

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<v Speaker 2>get through the whole three hours without crime. It's Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get this party started. Did I do this right?

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<v Speaker 2>Have I?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're even getting the timing all correct. Well, now

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<v Speaker 2>to the KFI Twitter. No, let's tease the next segment first. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>we're still getting used to this when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been groped in the produce department? Anyone can

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<v Speaker 2>give your melons a non consensual squeeze? Well, stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from

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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>On to our next story, has this person grabbed your

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<v Speaker 2>honey ham while shopping at the South in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>location of Ralph's on sell Vermont Avenue. Apparently a woman

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<v Speaker 2>was browsing the spice Atisle Sunday morning on August twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>when a stranger allegedly grabbed and squeezed her buttocks before

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<v Speaker 2>quickly walking away. And I didn't realize that this was

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<v Speaker 2>an issue, but we have some audio from the woman.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's play that please.

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<v Speaker 7>I felt violated.

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<v Speaker 8>I couldn't believe this was happening to me.

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<v Speaker 9>While shopping at Ralph's at twenty six hundred Seals Vermont

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<v Speaker 9>Avenue in Los Angeles, this young woman was rousing the

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<v Speaker 9>spice atile on Sunday morning it when a stranger suddenly

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<v Speaker 9>grabbed and squeezed her buttocks before quickly walking away.

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<v Speaker 7>I was mad. I was very angry. Angry would be

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<v Speaker 7>the word to best describe it.

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<v Speaker 9>She let Ralph's employees know she had been touched inappropriately.

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<v Speaker 9>Security told her the man was still in the store,

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<v Speaker 8>It happened so fast that I just remember just straight

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<v Speaker 7>He never said a word. He never said a word

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<v Speaker 9>The grouper got into a car with another man and

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<v Speaker 9>left before police arrived. Turns out this woman wasn't the

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<v Speaker 8>There was an elderly woman that was crying, saying that

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<v Speaker 8>he had hit her on her chest.

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<v Speaker 9>This is the photograph taken of the man as he

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<v Speaker 8>I am very hopeful that someone idez this victim.

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<v Speaker 7>The jacket he was wearing is very very unique.

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<v Speaker 8>His hairstyle, his glasses.

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<v Speaker 9>She also hopes to encourage women to stand up for themselves.

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<v Speaker 8>To educate women that we don't have to be silent

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<v Speaker 8>when we get sexually assaulted, because it happens far more

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<v Speaker 8>too common than we think, or even far more than

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Tiffany, has this ever ever happened to you in

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<v Speaker 2>a grocery store? Because I go late at night, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a guy, and people stay away from me.

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<v Speaker 4>I think people fear me.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you know, I'm fortunate that this hasn't happened, and

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say that there's any one reason that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>exempt from this having hadn't having happened to me. But

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<v Speaker 3>I do notice that there are people who might linger

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<v Speaker 3>But fortunately no one has ever touched me. I've been

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<v Speaker 3>I've had things said to me. I've had verbal assault

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<v Speaker 3>by definition I imagine, or at least been made to feel inappropriate,

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<v Speaker 3>But fortunately no one has touched me. And the really

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<v Speaker 3>tricky thing too about this is the victim here says

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<v Speaker 3>that she hopes that this suspect can be id'd by

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<v Speaker 3>their jacket.

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<v Speaker 7>The picture that was released of the suspect is.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a back or a photo of his back of

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<v Speaker 3>this unique jacket.

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<v Speaker 7>There's no frontal image.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no real specific description of this person. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>of all of the time, when we have so many cameras, Mark,

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<v Speaker 3>how can you not get a photo of this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Grocery stores are like with surveillance. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>can catch you if you put a piece a pack

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<v Speaker 2>of gum in your pocket, but they cat catch somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who gropes women. I mean, these are things that most

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<v Speaker 2>men never have to deal with. However, I've had women

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<v Speaker 2>in my life, including my mother, who have had all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of things like this happened to him. I can

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<v Speaker 2>only imagine the horror of being violated like that period,

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<v Speaker 2>but in a public space particularly, so I would never

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<v Speaker 2>dream of making light of this kind of thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'll sell you one thing that it makes me think

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<v Speaker 2>of is that, good Lord, times have changed. Like when

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<v Speaker 2>we were kids watching the Animal House movie and Otters

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<v Speaker 2>hot wife and he holds up a cucumber and waves

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<v Speaker 2>it suggestively at her. We don't do those things in

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<v Speaker 2>real life, and times better not. Don't wave produce, don't

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<v Speaker 3>Please do not suggest any sort of produce at any woman,

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<v Speaker 2>But it just seems so extreme to me, to the

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<v Speaker 2>point of being mentally ill, that you would even touch

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<v Speaker 2>a person you don't know in public. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>most men have never had to deal with that, or

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<v Speaker 2>if they do, it's just you know, guys elbowing each

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<v Speaker 2>gauntlet of unwanted attention and behavior and violation that we

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this is at USC. I've been to this

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<v Speaker 3>Ralph's grocery store. It's on Vermont and Adams. It's a

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<v Speaker 7>It is constantly crowded.

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<v Speaker 3>And so to know that this sort of act happened

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<v Speaker 3>during a very likely populated time, More than these two

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<v Speaker 3>people were likely touched or approached. It's just that this

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<v Speaker 3>this woman spoke up about it. So this person hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>been caught. Where else are they in the city? And

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<v Speaker 3>then all, so, why grocery stores? There are so many questions, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there really are.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing that makes me think of is that

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of behavior that was programmed into us by

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<v Speaker 2>movies and TV and other entertainment and real life, you

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<v Speaker 2>can go to prison for it. Like the things in

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<v Speaker 2>romantic comedies that you would have seen in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of that's stalking. Yeah, Okay, if John Cusack stands

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<v Speaker 2>outside your front door holding up a boom box, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna call the cops on him. It's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>To get with him?

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<v Speaker 7>Is it John Cusack of then or John Cusack now?

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<v Speaker 4>Is there that significant difference?

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<v Speaker 7>So there's a huge difference I'm in.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not prepared to make that choice, but I'll defer

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<v Speaker 2>to you on this. But all sorts of things that

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<v Speaker 2>we would see in these old movies, normal people don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't go to sleep on someone's front porch because

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<v Speaker 2>you're love sick for them. You check yourself into a facility,

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<v Speaker 2>and you especially don't touch some without consent, somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know in a grocery store. Now, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>in grocery stores where I thought, Okay, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of getting cruised here by a female or a male.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no interest in talking to this person, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's not normal to pick up somebody in the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm just you know, you should see how far it goes.

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<v Speaker 10>Andrew Caravella. Ladies and gentlemen, it'd be an interesting experiment.

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<v Speaker 10>Has this happened to you, Andrew? No, I'm not that lucky.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, God, we've got him here.

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<v Speaker 10>Let me. Most people avoid me in the grocery store

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<v Speaker 10>because I'm the one. Like when people take showers and

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<v Speaker 10>read the ingredients on the back of the shampoo bottle,

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<v Speaker 10>that's me in the grocery store reading it out loud.

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<v Speaker 10>And then talking to myself on Aisle five on what

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<v Speaker 10>I need. I say what's in my mind out loud,

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<v Speaker 10>so people think I have an imaginary friend next to me,

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<v Speaker 10>so they just avoid me.

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<v Speaker 2>That will act as a current Tiffany. On the rare

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<v Speaker 2>occasion that you do get unwanted attention, how.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you deal with it?

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<v Speaker 10>Uh?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I'm polite. I've always been polite.

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<v Speaker 3>I take compliments for what they are, and if something

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<v Speaker 3>then I'll say so. And I do it with again

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<v Speaker 3>a directness, but a politeness. It's a teaching moment. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>an educator. Everything is a teaching moment. To my chagrin sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I don't let things bother me as much.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just not enough energy for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you carry mace?

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<v Speaker 3>I I'm gonna say publicly on the radio. I carry

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of things. So try it if you like,

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<v Speaker 3>to try it, if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like more and more in the Year

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<v Speaker 2>of our Lord in twenty twenty four, we must be

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<v Speaker 2>prepared for violence in public in a way that we

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<v Speaker 2>weren't before. And I don't know what the reason for that.

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<v Speaker 7>Is, especially at the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just tear like people's IDs have been unlocked.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I go to the grocery store after I

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<v Speaker 2>get off here at midnight every night, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>different Ralphs and it is just a Felliniesque cavilcade of characters.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think I mentioned to Moe a few

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<v Speaker 2>nights ago. One time there were a couple of hookers

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me, and Moe was trying to ask me, well,

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<v Speaker 2>how did you know they were hookers? Well, short of

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<v Speaker 2>holding a neon sign that said prostitute flashing, it was

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<v Speaker 2>fairly obvious by the way they were addressed and how

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<v Speaker 2>they behaved they were hookers. And they tried to shoplift

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of stuff, and so there was a big

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<v Speaker 7>How where do you how do you shoplifts as a prostitute?

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<v Speaker 7>You're wearing minimal clothing. I imagine, what are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't want to know where they put

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff. I just wanted to back away from the

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<v Speaker 2>situation at that point. But you know, also, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's right around one o'clock when I'm wrapping up there

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<v Speaker 2>and there are people trying to get in and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a guard at the door, and it turns into them

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<v Speaker 2>taunting each other like they're on either side of a fence.

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<v Speaker 7>Nothing good after midnight but the but.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been grabbed. Nobody's ever grabbed me in a

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<v Speaker 2>grocery store.

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<v Speaker 7>The night's still young.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one can hope. And I mean, as you get older,

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<v Speaker 2>you're wondering why isn't anybody grabbing me? But I said

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't gonna make fun of this. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get just a hair more serious and heartfelt,

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<v Speaker 2>with a nice letter that we got from a listener

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<v Speaker 2>after Moe and I had an exchange, and that's coming up.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening too later with Moe Kelly on Demand from

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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Ronner in from MO. I'm usually in the news booth,

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<v Speaker 2>but we swapped chairs. Joined by my pal Tiffany Hobbs tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for being here, Tiffany. How are we doing so far?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we doing okay?

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<v Speaker 4>So far?

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<v Speaker 3>We are doing really well. I was looking under the table.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see any leakage.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, thank you. That always a good sign.

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<v Speaker 2>So Mo and I often talk of the out of

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<v Speaker 2>control homeless problem around LA and it wasn't much different

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<v Speaker 2>in Seattle, where I worked before I came here about

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<v Speaker 2>six years ago. And like any matter that has some

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<v Speaker 2>complications and some nuances, it doesn't so much lend itself

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<v Speaker 2>to SoundBite wisdom or easy solutions. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>solve homelessness in seven minutes here. But where I always

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<v Speaker 2>come down, and I believe MO as well, is that

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<v Speaker 2>there's more to the issue than I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>look at them, get them out of here. We keep

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<v Speaker 2>reading figures like sixty percent of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

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<v Speaker 2>We know losing a job, or having a medical problem,

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<v Speaker 2>or just getting your rent raised can be catastrophic. We

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<v Speaker 2>also read constantly about how many Americans don't have enough

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<v Speaker 2>money on hand to deal with something like a four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars emergency expenditure. This can really sink a person

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<v Speaker 2>in short order. So not only could it be any

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<v Speaker 2>of us who just have a run of bad luck.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had some scrapes. I mean, I've been a freelance

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<v Speaker 2>writer in between full time media jobs, and there are

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<v Speaker 2>times when being a freelancer can slow down to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where it looks an awful lot blake being unemployed.

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<v Speaker 4>But also, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you, as a journalist, I'm also hardwired to side

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<v Speaker 2>with the underdog and never ever punch down. Sure, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of addicts and people with mental health health

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<v Speaker 2>issues who are homeless, but that's not even close to

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<v Speaker 2>being the whole problem. So after one of our discussions

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<v Speaker 2>one night a couple weeks ago, I got this email

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<v Speaker 2>from a KFI listener, and I'm going to read it

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<v Speaker 2>to you, not going to read the person's name.

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<v Speaker 4>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>The email says, I'm not sure if this is a

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<v Speaker 2>valid email, but here I try. It's been weeks now

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<v Speaker 2>and I've wanted to reach out and thank both you

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<v Speaker 2>and MO for speaking truth and wisdom on being homeless,

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<v Speaker 2>which is something I've been experiencing. And my main contributing

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<v Speaker 2>factor is that companies in California do not want to

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<v Speaker 2>hire anyone over forty. I'm fifty seven. It's been humiliating

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<v Speaker 2>and devastating living in my vehicle after I used up

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<v Speaker 2>all my savings in retirement just to survive, never really

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<v Speaker 2>realizing or expecting to be so low in this. It

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<v Speaker 2>literally made me cry because hearing you both speaking on

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<v Speaker 2>the matter, you get it and it gives me a voice.

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<v Speaker 2>All it takes is one bad incident, and without an income,

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<v Speaker 2>no one can survive. We are not all mentally ill

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<v Speaker 2>or addicts out here. I am a professional that lost

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<v Speaker 2>my gripping when COVID hit. I want nothing more than

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<v Speaker 2>to work, yet it does not come. I keep the

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<v Speaker 2>faith and trust my heavenly Father that he knows what

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<v Speaker 2>he is doing and his timing is perfect. Some days

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<v Speaker 2>I stumble and lose it because I'm frustrated. Anyway, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for reading this, but mostly thank you and Moe for

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<v Speaker 2>speaking common sense into this for people to hear and understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Came across like I finally have a voice. No one

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<v Speaker 2>else get in the funding to help the homeless as

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<v Speaker 2>a clue you and MO do it means more than

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<v Speaker 2>you know what a nice letter. And I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to read the person's name because I want to respect

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<v Speaker 2>her privacy unless I get permission to talk more about her.

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<v Speaker 4>And we may next week.

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<v Speaker 2>The upshot of all this to me, though, Tiffany, is

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<v Speaker 2>that when we're talking about homelessness and when we see

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<v Speaker 2>stories about homeless camps getting swept, we've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that lately, or r vs banned from streets. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we can all afford just show a little kindness

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<v Speaker 2>and some decency and humility as well as some intelligence,

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<v Speaker 2>and not just get them out of my sight, because

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<v Speaker 2>first and foremost, get him out of my sight isn't

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<v Speaker 2>the plan.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And we were talking off air about this. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the most sobering realizations I believe is that many people,

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<v Speaker 3>especially Angelino's and people in southern California all around the country,

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<v Speaker 3>really are a couple of paychecks, maybe two, maybe three

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<v Speaker 3>away from this sort of abject disaster, from homelessness, from housing, insecurity.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we look at these stories, often there's a disassociation.

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<v Speaker 3>We look at it as them versus us problem, when

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<v Speaker 3>in fact it is right there at the doorstep of

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<v Speaker 3>many of us because of inflation, because of how high

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<v Speaker 3>things are, the cost of living. We live in one

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes me think of that old Sam Kinnison

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<v Speaker 2>routine where he first broke on the scene, and it

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<v Speaker 2>He's talking about the starving children in Africa and he

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<v Speaker 2>starts screaming, send them luggage, Send them luggage, because why

426
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<v Speaker 2>don't you go where the food is right? But that's

427
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<v Speaker 2>kind of gallows humor comedy. In real life, that doesn't work.

428
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<v Speaker 2>These are people and they have to exist somewhere. Stuff

429
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<v Speaker 2>we don't like or find inconvenient doesn't just disappear the

430
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<v Speaker 2>to the cornfield. In that Twilight Zone episode where the

431
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<v Speaker 2>kid wills people away, I think the episode is called

432
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<v Speaker 2>It's a Good Life.

433
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<v Speaker 4>With Bill Moomey.

434
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<v Speaker 2>You can't just will people away if they're inconvenient, you

435
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<v Speaker 2>don't like them, you want to you don't want to

436
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<v Speaker 2>look at them. And I keep on coming across signs

437
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<v Speaker 2>of how things have changed financially for people, like how

438
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<v Speaker 2>our parents or grandparents on one income they could buy

439
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<v Speaker 2>a house, they could take the family on a vacation

440
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<v Speaker 2>every year, they could send their kids to college. That

441
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<v Speaker 2>does not exist anymore. That is a fantasy that none

442
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<v Speaker 2>of us, well most of us don't have access to anymore.

443
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, do you. I certainly don't.

444
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<v Speaker 3>Oh got no, Oh got no. And I have more

445
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<v Speaker 3>than one income, and that's a necessity.

446
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<v Speaker 9>You know.

447
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<v Speaker 3>Radio is great. Radio is a supplement. But I have

448
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<v Speaker 3>to have more than one income to be able to

449
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<v Speaker 3>maintain my livelihood. And I'm lucky that I do have that,

450
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<v Speaker 3>and I'm only supporting myself and it's extremely difficult.

451
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're not kidding.

452
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<v Speaker 2>I mean I've got the lousiest career radar of anybody

453
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<v Speaker 2>on the planet. I started off in newspapers, which are

454
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<v Speaker 2>all well known for being lucrative and stable.

455
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<v Speaker 4>Actually they're going extinct.

456
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<v Speaker 2>So when I first started at newspapers, they have like

457
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<v Speaker 2>their own cafeterias, and you could have assistance to do

458
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<v Speaker 2>things for you.

459
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<v Speaker 7>And is this madmen?

460
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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, yeah, but now they're all pamphlets and working

461
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<v Speaker 2>with skeleton crews. I moved from that into comic books,

462
00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:50.279
<v Speaker 2>and that's so dire that it doesn't even bear discussing.

463
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<v Speaker 2>There's only being a professional and making a living in

464
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<v Speaker 2>comic books as a writer. I think there was one

465
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<v Speaker 2>stretch of a few months where I was writing two

466
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<v Speaker 2>separate titles once and I was doing okay, but still

467
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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't have taken much from me to be dumpster diving.

468
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and again, I think a misnomer, a common misconception,

469
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<v Speaker 3>and you touched on this, is that homelessness is due

470
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<v Speaker 3>to some sort of extreme failure on the person's part.

471
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<v Speaker 3>Of the individual's part, it doesn't take into account things

472
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<v Speaker 3>that are out of their control.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so radio. I've done most of my life

474
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<v Speaker 2>off and on, and I started at KFI after I

475
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<v Speaker 2>wrote Law and Order video games for NBC Universal, and

476
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<v Speaker 2>abruptly that department was just disappeared. They decided, well, we're

477
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<v Speaker 2>not going to be in the mobile game business any longer.

478
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<v Speaker 2>And I did other writing. I wrote more comic books

479
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<v Speaker 2>and did some more freelance stuff. But all those people,

480
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't stay in touch with them. I have no

481
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<v Speaker 2>idea where they all landed. Because it's hard for people

482
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<v Speaker 2>to get a job normal circumstances. But then when you

483
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<v Speaker 2>get to be forty and fifty, god forbid sixty, there

484
00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:09.279
<v Speaker 2>is a lot of agism going on in employment. They

485
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<v Speaker 2>want people who are young and will go that extra

486
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<v Speaker 2>mile and essentially do work that they're not paid for.

487
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<v Speaker 2>So you see this language in the ads, like we're

488
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<v Speaker 2>looking for a superstar or real go getter, and you

489
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<v Speaker 2>don't need to have the Enigma machine from World War

490
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<v Speaker 2>Two to decode what that means, right.

491
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<v Speaker 3>Right, And this directly correlates to the idea of underperformance

492
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:35.799
<v Speaker 3>being a reason for closures, when in fact it is

493
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<v Speaker 3>in fact that corporate greed. We did have a bit

494
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<v Speaker 3>of a discussion about this, and I know there are

495
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<v Speaker 3>quite a few businesses that have been suffering from closures

496
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<v Speaker 3>because of different reasons. When you really look at the

497
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.319
<v Speaker 3>origin of it all, it's to pad the top, it's

498
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<v Speaker 3>to pat the top, and the people at the bottom

499
00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:58.200
<v Speaker 3>are getting that short end of the stick, and those

500
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<v Speaker 3>people then could suffer from these sorts of housing insecurities.

501
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:02.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

502
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<v Speaker 2>So, like I said, we're not going to solve homelessness

503
00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:07.039
<v Speaker 2>in one segment on the radio, but I really think

504
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:10.160
<v Speaker 2>we could stand to approach it a little bit more kindness, humility,

505
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.440
<v Speaker 2>you know. There but for the grace of God, I mean,

506
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>we're all a couple steps away from it unless you

507
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<v Speaker 2>are fortunate. When I hear people talk about homelessness, one

508
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<v Speaker 2>thing that I almost never hear is the acknowledgment fortune

509
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:24.920
<v Speaker 2>plays in people's lives. All right, we're going to break

510
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<v Speaker 2>it off there when we come back. We're going to

511
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<v Speaker 2>talk about nudism. So you're not going to want to

512
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<v Speaker 2>go anywhere.

513
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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from

514
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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six forty.

515
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<v Speaker 2>Well, nudism has been in the news this week, and

516
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<v Speaker 2>some very serious, fairly serious news to start off with,

517
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<v Speaker 2>and then we're going to move on to the subject

518
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<v Speaker 2>in general, because this is a little bit grim. Seventy

519
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<v Speaker 2>three year old Stephanie and Daniel Menard, aged seventy nine,

520
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:52.799
<v Speaker 2>were reported missing Sunday by a friend after their unlocked

521
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.119
<v Speaker 2>car was discovered near their home in Redlands. A tip

522
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.680
<v Speaker 2>led investigators to a neighbor of the Minards at a

523
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:01.920
<v Speaker 2>nudist resort, and the neighbor was arrested after his home

524
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:05.720
<v Speaker 2>was torn down in a swat operation. A little grizzly here,

525
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.440
<v Speaker 2>so trigger warning. Authority said human remains were found in

526
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<v Speaker 2>bags in a concrete bunker Friday under the home. This

527
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:14.200
<v Speaker 2>is awful, and we're not going to linger on this

528
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:17.079
<v Speaker 2>particular case except to note that it's been in the news. Thoughts,

529
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:21.200
<v Speaker 2>of course, with the families of these people also in

530
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<v Speaker 2>the news earlier in the week. Something slightly sillier. I

531
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<v Speaker 2>guess a guy wandering around naked terrorizing people in neighborhoods.

532
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<v Speaker 4>I think it was in Englewood.

533
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<v Speaker 2>I guess I should have looked it up before we

534
00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:36.400
<v Speaker 2>went on the air, but he was reportedly how do

535
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<v Speaker 2>I say this, Well, he was masturbating in people's yards,

536
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<v Speaker 2>and good for him for finding the focus. I don't

537
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:46.920
<v Speaker 2>think I could be successful doing that. But apart from

538
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.759
<v Speaker 2>that fairly offensive. You know you don't want that in

539
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:52.240
<v Speaker 2>your yard. So I want to shift from the tragedy

540
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<v Speaker 2>and I just want to talk about the nudism thing

541
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<v Speaker 2>in general that we're seeing more of lately, because I

542
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:02.079
<v Speaker 2>don't get it, never gotten it, And I'll go you

543
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.720
<v Speaker 2>one even further. When I hear about like famous people

544
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:08.440
<v Speaker 2>who we find out are nudists, it completely changes everything

545
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I think about them.

546
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:10.200
<v Speaker 4>Robert A.

547
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Heinlein, the sci fi author, was a famous, infamous nudist.

548
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<v Speaker 4>That's right, the.

549
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Guy who gave a starship, Troopers and Strangers in a

550
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Strange Land and well time enough for love, I guess

551
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.079
<v Speaker 2>lends itself to that. But a nudist. Can you ever

552
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.079
<v Speaker 2>not think about that? When you hear his name again?

553
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 3>I think most newdists would fit that profile. I think

554
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 3>there was such a thing.

555
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I've got very limited experience with nudism because everything about

556
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:42.440
<v Speaker 2>it terrifies and repels me. One summer when I was

557
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:45.079
<v Speaker 2>in college, a friend of mine. A friend of mine

558
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:49.000
<v Speaker 2>drove an ice cream truck and Spokane, Washington, not a

559
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.759
<v Speaker 2>place known for beaches, not a place known for people

560
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<v Speaker 2>who really take great care of themselves. But he would

561
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.480
<v Speaker 2>come and pick me up this summer when he went

562
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>to the one nude beach by some river in Spokane.

563
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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you, the people who want to

564
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:09.680
<v Speaker 2>be naked in public are never the people you want

565
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>to see naked in public. They I mean, we're all different.

566
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.319
<v Speaker 2>None of us is perfect. We don't all have personal

567
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 2>trainers and that kind of stuff. But in the name

568
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 2>of God, have some consideration for us. I mean, I've

569
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<v Speaker 2>got hang ups that maybe a lot of people don't have.

570
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<v Speaker 2>But these people who came up to the ice cream

571
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.799
<v Speaker 2>truck to order things, with all their stuff hanging out

572
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>in front of God and everyone, I just didn't grasp it.

573
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I didn't understand it. I didn't get the satisfaction that

574
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:44.359
<v Speaker 2>they felt from it. So some guy who at the time, well,

575
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if I was in college, I was want

576
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<v Speaker 2>maybe twenty twenty one years old, and what seemed ancient

577
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 2>to me at the time, the guy must have been fifty.

578
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<v Speaker 2>He looked like a leather handbag. He looked like, first

579
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<v Speaker 2>of all, if you're going to be a nudist and

580
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 2>be outside you sunscreen, is that too much to ask?

581
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:03.720
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a requirement that you do look like

582
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<v Speaker 3>a leather handbag.

583
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<v Speaker 2>So the guy, and I'm not saying this just to

584
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>be crude, the guy comes up and orders a box

585
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>of big sticks because he wants to just walk around

586
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and distribute them to people at the nude beach.

587
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<v Speaker 7>Oh there you go, just.

588
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<v Speaker 4>One of the night.

589
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, fush Andrew. You said you had

590
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:24.759
<v Speaker 2>some experience with nude beaches, and I hesitate to ask

591
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:26.359
<v Speaker 2>you because I don't know where this is gonna go.

592
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:28.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was.

593
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<v Speaker 10>I was trying to do a tour of one, but

594
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<v Speaker 10>I only got to the front gate. They wouldn't let

595
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<v Speaker 10>me in.

596
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:36.559
<v Speaker 2>What did you make of that? Did you take that

597
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>as a personal rejection? Did they scope out the goods

598
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:44.240
<v Speaker 2>and then say, sorry, you're not cutting it is.

599
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:45.200
<v Speaker 10>The time for the news yet?

600
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:45.319
<v Speaker 4>No?

601
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 2>No, no, but how did this see?

602
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 4>Now? Everything I say sounds I feel.

603
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Like looking from the front gate is problematic in itself.

604
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:58.000
<v Speaker 3>You maybe shouldn't have been doing that. That sounds kind

605
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 3>of like gawking well, let's be clear.

606
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Was this a velvet rope type of situation where they

607
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>waved somebody in It's like, no, not.

608
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<v Speaker 10>Oh, I mean it was before drones, you know when

609
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 10>I did this, So it's not like I could just

610
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<v Speaker 10>you know, peek over the uh get a peep show,

611
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<v Speaker 10>you know, over the fence. So I was trying to

612
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<v Speaker 10>get a tour of the place.

613
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<v Speaker 4>Why were you trying to do this? I was curious.

614
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<v Speaker 10>I think everyone's curious about things that are considered taboo.

615
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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

616
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<v Speaker 10>You were just curious. Well, it's not like there was

617
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<v Speaker 10>a back door. It was the beach careful. Uh.

618
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we were talking about somehow Earlier in the week

619
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<v Speaker 2>we got on the topic of people having sex in public.

620
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<v Speaker 2>And once a number of years ago, I was writing

621
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<v Speaker 2>something science fiction horror story action thing that involved an

622
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 2>alien virus that was transmitted through people having sex and

623
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.759
<v Speaker 2>tRNS them into monsters. Now you know too much, But

624
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<v Speaker 2>I had this idea that I wanted to go to

625
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<v Speaker 2>the one sex club in Seattle to do research for it.

626
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<v Speaker 2>But there was no way I was a getting naked,

627
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<v Speaker 2>No way I was gonna let anybody touch me, and

628
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 2>I certainly was not going to touch my stuff on

629
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>anybody else's stuff and let them touch me. But I've

630
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 2>had friends who have done this, and I just cannot

631
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<v Speaker 2>fathom doing this. Of course, Eu Tiffany have had tons

632
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<v Speaker 2>of experiences.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't gesture at me. I don't want any part of this.

634
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<v Speaker 7>I you know, really quick.

635
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<v Speaker 3>When I was a kid, family was taking a little vacation.

636
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<v Speaker 3>Stepfather at the times truck drivers. We went to some

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<v Speaker 3>different places in the PNW Pacific Northwest and we happened

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<v Speaker 3>to pawn when I was about four years old, a

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<v Speaker 3>nude beach and people were running foosh, I know, for

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<v Speaker 3>a running from each other. I mean they were running,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way they were jogging.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're naked, really exercise caution while running. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to run.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just frolicking. And I was four and I

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<v Speaker 3>saw this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a short list of activities you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do naked. In Seattle, there is an annual Solstice Parade,

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<v Speaker 2>and part of the Solstice Parade is nude bikers. And

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you something, even the best looking people

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<v Speaker 2>on earth don't look great naked.

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<v Speaker 4>When they're hunched over on a bike.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a great look there's a nude bicycle marathon

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<v Speaker 3>in New Orleans. They do that during the summer, and

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<v Speaker 3>you just think there are conditions that are probably not

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<v Speaker 3>good at all for that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, and so, and they wear costumes while they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing this, they wear body paint, and it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a position that's flattering to the human body in

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<v Speaker 2>any case. But when you're naked, it's all right out there.

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<v Speaker 2>So all I'm thinking is, well, I think Wonder Woman

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<v Speaker 2>could send to do a few crunches, but I don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not here to body shame anybody. I'm here to

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<v Speaker 2>body shame everybody because it's disgusting. Now, here's one last question.

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming up to the break here. What's the deal

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<v Speaker 2>with volleyball and nudice? Why is it required that they

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<v Speaker 2>play volleyball?

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<v Speaker 7>Look at the time, Wow, look at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Push.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a nude volleyball player if I've ever seen one.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the answer to this?

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<v Speaker 10>You know, I don't think I could answer it better

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<v Speaker 10>than and you probably could.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd never done it. I'm too inhibited.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when I was in the best shape of my life,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no way I was going to do anything

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<v Speaker 2>like this. But I'll tell you one thing, And I've

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<v Speaker 2>never talked about this before. So people who know me

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<v Speaker 2>are listening, this is gonna be the first time they're

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<v Speaker 2>hearing it too. When I was a teenager, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure how old I was, maybe fourteen ish, I went

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<v Speaker 2>to a science fiction convention in Moscow, Idaho. Young nerd

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<v Speaker 2>Life star trek. You know, take my allowance money and

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<v Speaker 2>buy like a book or an enterprise toy or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Well, I don't know if you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>but after hours at these psych fi conventions, it gets

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<v Speaker 2>pretty racy. Lot a lot of hookups, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of backrubs, a lot of a lot of look.

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<v Speaker 10>At the time, Oh no, no, no, I'm not done yet.

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<v Speaker 10>That's terrifying town.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of these I happened to wander into a

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<v Speaker 2>naked jacuzzi party and you got to strip down. But

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<v Speaker 2>at fourteen, you don't have control over everything. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>just say I found myself having to hop fully into

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<v Speaker 2>the water quite a number of times as a teenager.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how biology works. I should have just left,

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<v Speaker 2>but by the time I knew I had to leave,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 7>This is where therapy comes into play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank god you're here tonight. Okay, later on in

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<v Speaker 2>the show, coming up an hour two, right after eight o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a great surprise special guest. After that we'll

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<v Speaker 2>have the Runner Report, and in the nine o'clock hour,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be doing name that cult movie classic,

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<v Speaker 2>just like if Moe were here, but with slightly different

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