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<v Speaker 1>Caloroga Shark Media. Hi there, I'm Johnny Mack with your

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<v Speaker 1>daily comedy. Hears. You're feeling a little heavy after Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>and the leftovers, you should lose some weight. Like Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Gaffigan who Till the La Times. I wish there was

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<v Speaker 1>some romantic story surrounding his weight loss, but it really

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<v Speaker 1>came down to my doctor who brought it up. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know she'd gained a fair amount of weight. In

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties. I was working out twice a day to

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<v Speaker 1>be thin, and then once I had kids, I was

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<v Speaker 1>desperately trying to find time to work out, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it got to a point where my kniece didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>So my doctor said, you can try these appetites of

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<v Speaker 1>pressents and I'm like, yeah, sure, but I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>an expectation it would work, even when I was working

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<v Speaker 1>out twice a day. I have a joke where I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I need to work out a lot just

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<v Speaker 1>to look like someone who doesn't work out, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was pleasantly surprised when it worked. That joke speaks to

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<v Speaker 1>me because I go up and down ten pounds in

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<v Speaker 1>like a day, So I'll go out for an eight

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<v Speaker 1>mile run. I lose a lot of water weight, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I feel good, and then I come home

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<v Speaker 1>and have you know, three cookies, and then I'm back

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<v Speaker 1>up ten pounds. My body's crazy like that. But even

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm in marathon shape, I will say to people,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to work really hard to look this fat. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever see me walking around it, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty pounds. You might start wondering who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take over this podcast after me, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a good question. Hopefully we have another fifty years before

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<v Speaker 1>we have to consider that one. Ronnie Ching has spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to the Wall Street Journal, thank you, friend of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Beckett for setting this one over. Ronnie said his

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<v Speaker 1>first exposure to American comedy was watching Jerry Seinfeld's stand

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<v Speaker 1>up intervals on Seinfeld back in Singapore, I watched Late

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<v Speaker 1>Show with David Letterman on TV and the comics who

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<v Speaker 1>came on his show. Initially, I didn't think I could

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<v Speaker 1>do what they did. I watched because stand up looked interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Comedians would walk on stage, talk to the audience, make

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<v Speaker 1>jokes and people laughed. He wound up living in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>and said it took me two months to get a

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<v Speaker 1>handle on the Melbourne comedy scene. Performing in English wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a problem during our Manchester years. My parents spoke to

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<v Speaker 1>me in English, so it was my first language. As

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<v Speaker 1>for my delivery, that's a matter of developing the skill

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<v Speaker 1>set and listening for the rhythm, the timing, the attitude,

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<v Speaker 1>when to pause and so on. That came gig after gig.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty thirteen, Trevor Noah and I were on a

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<v Speaker 1>bill at Just for Laughs. In myal I already knew

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<v Speaker 1>him from the festival a year earlier. Two years later

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<v Speaker 1>I received an email inviting me to audition for The

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<v Speaker 1>Daily Show, which Trevor had started hosting. I planned to

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<v Speaker 1>move to New York anyway. Going from Australia to the

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<v Speaker 1>Daily Show was such a step up. I have Trevor

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<v Speaker 1>to thank, as well as John Oliver, who gave me guidance.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Ray was asked what was the re action from Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Phil's camp when he found out about your show. If

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't watched Adam Ray on Netflix, it is very funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam said, I've been doing the show a little over

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<v Speaker 1>a year and had never met him. His son reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to me on Instagram was like, we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>get my dad on your show. We got in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with his publiciste and went back and forth for like

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<v Speaker 1>six or seven months. Yeah, I've been there, done that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's annoying. I'd almost given up, but then I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's three more dates. They said, September eighteenth works. I

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<v Speaker 1>FaceTime with Phil maybe an hour before makeup, just talk

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<v Speaker 1>through what the show would look like. Then we locked

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<v Speaker 1>up everyone's phones. No one knew and Phil was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>The grad went nuts, and the whole show was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him if he was online, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I found you. My son was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to see this, and I'll admit it's hysterical. He

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<v Speaker 1>gave me some nice flowers during the show, but he

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<v Speaker 1>also told me backstage, you would have known a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago if I wasn't cool with this little thread there. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he and his fans know that my intentions

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<v Speaker 1>are pure with the character, and it's also made him

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<v Speaker 1>popular in a space that he might otherwise not be.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he's got to be enjoying this extra

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<v Speaker 1>pump of recognition right. He was also asked what would

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<v Speaker 1>it be like if Doctor Phil went on tour, is

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Ray Now that's funny? Adam said, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he has the cavs for it, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he can get the voice down. I'd watch it more

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<v Speaker 1>from that big piece. On Crack to dot Com with

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Jessel Nick, Jessa Nick talked about not getting along

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<v Speaker 1>with Norm MacDonald on Last Comic Standing and said it

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<v Speaker 1>was anger, but it wasn't anger that we're not jelling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Norm's a difficult person. I'm a difficult person. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not crazy that we're not chilling. Honestly, it's almost an honor.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like someone telling you you remind him of your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>But Norman and I were both very angry that we

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<v Speaker 1>took the job. We were mad that we had to

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<v Speaker 1>be there for the amount of time we had to

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<v Speaker 1>be there. We thought we were getting into something else, and

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<v Speaker 1>so for those eight episodes we weren't mad at each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just mad, and when we butted heads it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot. We both wish we had gone back

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<v Speaker 1>and not taken that job. I think everybody hates Last

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<v Speaker 1>Comic Standing. I used to hate it because, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at serious I was the comedy expert, and people would

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<v Speaker 1>come in and be like, to watch Last Comic Standing,

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see so and so? And I'm like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so and so is hysterical for forty seconds. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>why you think so and so is hysterical for forty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I would illustrate even stupid Johnny Mack can

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<v Speaker 1>be hysterical for forty seconds by saying something outrageous. The

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<v Speaker 1>example I used to use is a line I later

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<v Speaker 1>heard Dave Chappelle say, and I later heard President Trump say.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say something so out of character for me,

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<v Speaker 1>so vulgar, that people would be so shocked and laughed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be like yeah, and I would point out

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even tell a joke there. I just said

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<v Speaker 1>something shocking and you laughed at it. Anyway, Last Comic

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<v Speaker 1>Standing nobody liked that show. Cracked asked Anthony, what makes

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<v Speaker 1>you a difficult person. He said, I'm not the friendliest.

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<v Speaker 1>You can work with me and think he was totally professional.

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<v Speaker 1>He was great, but I don't really have a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of who he is. We didn't really hang out. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to bond with everybody. Let's just be professional

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<v Speaker 1>and do our jobs. People on the road with me

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<v Speaker 1>are like, he's professionally, he does his jock. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>hang out much, but I'm not mean. Norm wasn't mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just aloof And when you're trying to go

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<v Speaker 1>and connect with that becomes difficult. When the two of

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<v Speaker 1>us going back and forth on stage. I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward it and he was not, and that was difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you want to hang out? Dan Denny? There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of comedians who said is the least important

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<v Speaker 1>thing of their night. It's the hangout. It's who you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see. We're gonna go to this other club. Watch

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<v Speaker 1>someone else said, I'm not doing that. I'm never gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I'm like, I'm gonna do my work and

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<v Speaker 1>go home. That's the job to be. The fun part

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<v Speaker 1>is the writing. Even before I stopped drinking, I was

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<v Speaker 1>never a go out person. I don't want to meet

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<v Speaker 1>people after the show. I want to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>my room, relax, read a book. That's the job. Would

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<v Speaker 1>he ever just become a writer? He said, I love

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<v Speaker 1>being up there. Obviously there's an adrenaline that comes from that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>these are my jokes. Most people wouldn't tell them not

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<v Speaker 1>just wouldn't tell them the way I tell them, They

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't tell them at all. Early in my career, if

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Silverman had said, I want to buy you for life,

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<v Speaker 1>just write jokes for me, I would have happily done

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<v Speaker 1>that watching her tell my jokes. If I thought a

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<v Speaker 1>joke was great, Sarah Silverman always thought it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Kimmel always thought it was great and did his

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<v Speaker 1>best to do it. I would have been happy writing

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<v Speaker 1>for them for a while. Anyway, was in my twenties

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<v Speaker 1>when I wrote for them jokes here and there, but

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed that. When you get into Jimmy Falln, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a knocking a inint Jimmy Faun. But Jimmy Fallon

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell my jokes. He wouldn't have the job he

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<v Speaker 1>has today if he told any of them. The editor

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<v Speaker 1>points out. Jessainnick was hired to write on Late Night

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<v Speaker 1>with Jimmy Foun in two thousand and nine. Someone says,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the travel, I hate the sound check, but

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<v Speaker 1>I love being on stage with a thousand people were

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<v Speaker 1>there to communally laugh at this darkness. That's something that

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<v Speaker 1>I've grown into and I wouldn't want to give it up.

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<v Speaker 1>NBR spoke to DJ Dimmers. He has hearing loss and

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<v Speaker 1>says he doesn't want to be the hearing aid guy

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<v Speaker 1>to reach others in the deaf community. DJ Demmers is

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<v Speaker 1>often joined on stage by a sign language interpreter, Jennifer Lees,

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<v Speaker 1>has interpreted many of his shows. DJ says without his

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<v Speaker 1>hearing aids, he's considered deaf when he takes them out

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep at sketchy hotels, he jokes, I'm very easy

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<v Speaker 1>to murder, and since hearing aids aren't waterproof, pool parties

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<v Speaker 1>are a nightmare, and I'm not very good at marco polo.

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<v Speaker 1>This is funny. He's a new dad. People warn him

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<v Speaker 1>to be ready for a lot of sleepless nights and

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<v Speaker 1>he jokes, it's been pretty chilled. Loved eltmore, but got

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<v Speaker 1>this damn disability, you know. Interpreter Jennifer said, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>concerts with interpreters from music, and I've seen lots of

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<v Speaker 1>spoken word stuff, but comedy definitely there was a gap

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<v Speaker 1>there for deaf and hard of hearing consumers who just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be able to go out to yuk yuks

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<v Speaker 1>in one of the other comedy chains. And have some fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's ever talked about hearing loss in a funny way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people very rarely talk about it at all,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind with an incredible insight into how awkward and

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<v Speaker 1>strange communication can be. Demer said, if I really leaned

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<v Speaker 1>into being the hearing aid guy, I could capture that market.

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<v Speaker 1>But at what cost? I have to explore more beyond

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<v Speaker 1>it just to be artistically fulfilled, all right. The folks

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<v Speaker 1>over at late night are noticed during a broadcast of

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<v Speaker 1>aew Dynamite Wrestling on TBS that somebody was holding a

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<v Speaker 1>sign that said bring Tunsis back for SNL fifty. You

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<v Speaker 1>may recall the sketch on SNL tune Sis the cat

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<v Speaker 1>who could drive a car. It was the same joke

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<v Speaker 1>over and over, never not hilarious. Tunsis Spoilers was a

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<v Speaker 1>cat who could drive a car? You've had thirty years spoilers.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of every sketch we would learn that

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<v Speaker 1>the cat cannot drive very well and the car would

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<v Speaker 1>always crash. They would use the same piece of footage

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<v Speaker 1>every time. Look on the driving reached the hurtles. The

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<v Speaker 1>dude with the sign is Jose Echeveria. He said, I

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of pop culture signs about yesteryear at

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<v Speaker 1>aw shows. We haven't seen Tunsus on SNL since ninety three,

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<v Speaker 1>so I felt Tunsis was the way to go. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought about making a Simpsons reference, which I've done in

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<v Speaker 1>the past at a w W B Rass show. But

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago I saw somebody on social media repost

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<v Speaker 1>a Tunsa's Giff Jiff. I say, Giff, send me a letter,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what got the juices flowing you Jiff. People

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Smigel recently said on Mark Malkoff's Late Night Or podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>a Fantastic podcast, Michael said, I have to admit I

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<v Speaker 1>was obsessed with Tunss. I was obsessed with particularly the

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<v Speaker 1>opening credits where they used the live cat and they

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<v Speaker 1>had the two arms operating the steering wheel. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen that done before. Eagle Wit is one

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<v Speaker 1>of Vulture's comedians. You should and will know Wor Showever,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a show at Jamaican restaurant where they would

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<v Speaker 1>and it was always a somewhat impossible show. This particular

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<v Speaker 1>night was so bad. They gave us food and money

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<v Speaker 1>because they felt bad about how rough the show was.

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<v Speaker 1>Biggest financial hurdle you've encountered since being a comedian. We

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<v Speaker 1>used to get dollar slices in between open mics, and

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<v Speaker 1>a fellow comedian would put hot sauce on the slices

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<v Speaker 1>because it was almost like getting a Pepperoni slice, but

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<v Speaker 1>didn't cost pepperoni money. He was right. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>go home every night and eat ramen with canned peas

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<v Speaker 1>and tuna, sometimes corn. What comedy hill? Will you die? On?

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<v Speaker 1>Social media is good for the business side of comedy,

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<v Speaker 1>but terrible for the art of comedy. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about the crowd work thing. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>material gets enough time to develop In this sprint era

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<v Speaker 1>of comedy. Quality over quantity used to matter. Bring that

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<v Speaker 1>back when it comes to audiences. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>have to change the thing. I think them being more

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive will just make the best comedians smarter writers. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy they're more sensitive. It brings out the best in me.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be lazy with my pen. Best comedy advice,

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<v Speaker 1>worst comedy advice. Best. Derek Gaines told me to never

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<v Speaker 1>play to the back of the room. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>comics try to make the other comics laugh focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd. Sam Jay told me, if my only source

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<v Speaker 1>of income is stand up, I won't let myself take

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<v Speaker 1>the type of risks I would take if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>my livelihood. When your whole livelihood is stand up, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a small voice in your subconscious saying if I bomb,

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<v Speaker 1>it might not get booked again, So he takes smaller risks.

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<v Speaker 1>Roy Wood Junior told me to keep the word diabolical

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<v Speaker 1>in one of my jokes. It sounds simple, but he

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<v Speaker 1>followed up by saying, never stop letting them know just

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<v Speaker 1>how messed up white people are. Where it's like that

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<v Speaker 1>are cutting in sharp diabolical Monda Carlo. It's told me

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<v Speaker 1>to keep doing the style of stand up I do

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually the industry will come around. It's probably a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch. I'm forgetting. My comedy OG's have always been

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<v Speaker 1>good to me. Worst advice I ever received not to

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<v Speaker 1>do comedy the way I do it. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>your comedy news for today. If you enjoy the program,

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<v Speaker 1>tell a friend about it. Hopefully they'll also enjoy it

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<v Speaker 1>and hit follow on one of their apps that'd be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of groovy. See you tomorrow,