WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:10.640 Something's going to happen. What's gonna happen? 2 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:26.679 I'm the only nose tonight in mate. Uh Thomas is 3 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:29.480 I don't know what the fuck Thomas doing, but uh, Thomas, 4 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:32.280 I hope you're having fun wherever, where, wherever and whatever 5 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:34.560 you're doing. Buddy. Uh, we have the great lives, We 6 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:37.280 have a great nick. You guys are back. We had 7 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:39.119 you back on back in the day to talk about 8 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.039 some fucking smiley face killers. Uh e Liza, I'm so 9 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:44.840 happy to have you back on. Uh. We're doing some 10 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:46.200 sizzy and ship tonight. 11 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:47.439 Ye. 12 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:50.000 So I love it, dude. I love all the true 13 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:52.079 crime stuff that you guys do. You guys get into 14 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:54.679 the like cold stand the conspiracy is also the true 15 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.799 crime stuff. Uh dude, thank you guys for coming back on. 16 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:00.960 You guys want to do some plugs before we get started, Oh, sure, 17 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:01.399 there you. 18 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:02.359 Can go first. 19 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:06.560 All I have to plug is just the Accult Research 20 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:09.599 Institute dot org. Check us out. There a lot of 21 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:12.120 written cool stuff to read it. 22 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:17.079 Heck yeah, uh yeah, I guess the only thing really 23 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.200 to plug is the occult Rejects. If people haven't heard 24 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:21.760 of us yet, we cover a lot of occultism we 25 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:25.840 do cover a true crime if occultism proteins to it. Uh, 26 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:27.680 some paranormal here and there, but a lot of it 27 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:31.560 is occultism or conspiracy with ocultism and magic. The Yeah, 28 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:34.040 the o Cult Rejects on bitchhoot Rumble, YouTube and all 29 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.799 major podcasts. Thank you very much for having us on again. 30 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:44.159 Heck yeah, so where do we get started with this? 31 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:45.079 This is the and cult. 32 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:49.719 Uh, it's just weird. Your guy Ethan Ethan in the 33 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.719 Go from The Occult Rejects actually twisted me the the 34 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.640 article when it first came out, and it was more 35 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:58.359 of just like what the hell, Like we got like 36 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:02.079 trainees vegans that are like killing people and they're into 37 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:05.319 like AI in tech, and you're just like, ah, you. 38 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:06.079 Know, this might be weird. 39 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.039 It might be something worth like looking into, or it 40 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:09.800 just might like be towing arms with you. At first, 41 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:11.680 I was like this might be entertaining to cover and 42 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:15.439 just talk about, you know, and me and Lisa started 43 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.560 looking into it and we're like, it might actually be 44 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:21.199 some weird shit here. And it's actually a very deep 45 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:24.560 detailed story that's like kind of almost hard to even 46 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:26.360 like wrap your mind around. The first time you listen 47 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:28.560 to it because you have, like, you know what, I'm 48 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:29.560 sure there's reasons for it. 49 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:33.400 You have people that are you know, they're they're. 50 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:36.560 Changing their sex, they're changing their names, and then it's 51 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:38.319 just like it's just like you get all these different 52 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:40.439 personalities and names spopping up and then you find out, 53 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:42.639 oh wait, that was just someone else that used a. 54 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:44.759 Different name when they're you know, different fucking sex. 55 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:47.240 Now you know, it's like almost like you're doing this 56 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:49.960 to play names and you know, name games, so people 57 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:52.479 get confused as well. It's just it's a very weird 58 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:55.680 situation and it does tie into some just I think 59 00:02:55.719 --> 00:03:00.080 weird things will get AI tech, some people that I 60 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.840 think are kind of well known and might be doing 61 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:05.560 weird stuff with it they seem to have been associated with, 62 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:09.120 And yeah, I just think it's very weird, and I 63 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:12.400 do think there might be a cultism in a sense 64 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:13.960 kind of behind it. 65 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:16.520 I do think as we get into. 66 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:19.080 It, when we start talking about some of the ideas 67 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:23.879 that these kids have amongst like the zizzy and cult, 68 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:26.360 I'm not saying that they were definitely a cultist, but 69 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:28.879 I think maybe they were kind of trying to look 70 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:31.360 into things or understand things as well that might be 71 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:34.599 kind of something that occultist would be into. So not 72 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:36.560 saying they were, but maybe someone behind them were pulling 73 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:38.960 the strings, that was maybe manipulating them. 74 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:42.039 For all, I could have even got them interested in 75 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:42.759 some of that stuff. 76 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:48.400 I mean, I always, always, always behind every cult is 77 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:53.159 something to do with the There's a CIA connection, There's 78 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:57.960 like a military connection. There always is. I can't think 79 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:00.919 of one that I would that I doubt, you know, 80 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:08.039 even the Mormons. So it's fascinating stuff, dude. Yeah, So 81 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:11.240 these ends, I'll tell you what I know about them 82 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.719 and then you can correct me. I think that's sometimes 83 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:15.080 where we get started. 84 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:15.800 Uh. 85 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.560 So I did a little bit of research on this 86 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:24.120 Ziz person. Uh started male, then transition to female. As 87 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.600 far as I know, grew up in Alaska, is that correct? 88 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:32.879 Very isolated, very very highly intelligent, was into like some 89 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.800 bizarre kind of shit. Was kind of a troublemaker and 90 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:37.480 kind of interesting. Like I think I would have liked 91 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:40.279 this kid when it was a boy as far as 92 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:45.800 like like they got into uh they like broke into 93 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:48.560 the mainframe of their school when they were fucking kids, 94 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:53.600 and they like gave bonuses to the teachers that they 95 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:56.480 liked and took money away from the teachers they didn't like, 96 00:04:56.560 --> 00:04:58.360 and like fuck with it like they do. They broke 97 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:00.720 into the like this is something that I heard, and uh, 98 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:04.680 and it's kind of interesting, dude, Like this person was 99 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:09.720 extremely intelligent, probably very autistic, had a very hard time 100 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:14.279 fitting in with other people. And it's kind of a 101 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.560 it's kind of a sad thing because autistic people they 102 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:20.360 don't really feel they never feel comfortable, like even in 103 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:22.199 their own skin. And so I think that's what kind 104 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:25.439 of leads, uh, these folks to go tranny because they're 105 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.839 looking for something to try to make themselves feel good 106 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:33.800 about themselves. Yeah, dude, it's rough, dude. And I think 107 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:35.839 that a lot of this is actually being done on 108 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:39.639 purpose as far as like chemical biological things and things 109 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:43.480 that we don't want to discuss on YouTube, ookie polks 110 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:45.160 and things like that that caused a lot of this 111 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:50.040 damage to people. And I think that's what's causing this 112 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:53.279 huge because I look at the trans movement as depopulation. 113 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:57.240 It's more depopulation agenda. They like want to get these 114 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.839 folks to you know, not reproduce, and wanted to whack 115 00:05:59.879 --> 00:06:03.759 themselve whacked their own willies off, And so I think 116 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:08.160 this person was like the ultimate kind of poster boy 117 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.720 for this depopulation agenda like this, like that's almost what 118 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.959 the zizzy and stuff is all about. Because then what 119 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:20.639 I so this also started out of like the rationalist community. Yeah, 120 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:23.000 and a lot of game theory shit and a lot 121 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:25.399 of fucking interesting, weird connections with that, and I think 122 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:29.439 that's some fucking weird CIA bullshit. Also people that probably 123 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:32.240 they're too smart for their own good. I've known a 124 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:35.959 lot of these people that like they might be goddamn brilliant, dude, 125 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:37.800 but they can't they can't ever do anything with it 126 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:40.720 because they're too fucking autistic to ever apply it to anything, 127 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:42.319 you know what I mean. So then they just kind 128 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:46.680 of pontificate into like the most asinine, stupid, fucking questions 129 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:48.199 that ultimately don't fucking matter. 130 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:49.279 And so. 131 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:57.240 This poor retard was kind of oddly compassionate because I 132 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.680 guess they were like a vegan and they didn't want 133 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.480 to like hurt animals and different things like that. But 134 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:03.759 at the same time. 135 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:06.480 To the altruistic, which is really all about you know, 136 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:10.079 helping and yeah, doing less wrong and think and all 137 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:11.160 that stuff they're involved with. 138 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.720 But here's the thing that I've always noticed about these people. 139 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:18.600 Because they are so autistic and because they think everything 140 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.680 they're doing is for the greater good, Uh, they will 141 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:25.160 at times like make sacrifices because this is for the 142 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:28.720 greater good. Like I listen to a little bit. I 143 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:32.000 listened to actually a podcast that was describing an incident 144 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:35.319 for this Ziz character, and they were like, they needed 145 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:37.240 to take a shower because they didn't because they had 146 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:39.160 to go to work and they didn't have much time, 147 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:42.680 and they didn't want to go to work stinky right, 148 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:44.800 because they thought that this would hurt them at their 149 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:47.480 job and things like that. But they also there was 150 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:49.920 like ants that were in the shower, and they're like, 151 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:51.839 if I turn on the shower right now, I'm going 152 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:55.040 to fucking kill these ants. And this is like and 153 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:56.839 this is evil and this is awful, but this is 154 00:07:56.839 --> 00:07:58.439 for the greater good. I have to go to work 155 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:01.199 right now because I need this money because I'm making 156 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:04.360 connections so I can put this money towards the ultimate 157 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:07.439 AI that's going to save humanity. So and then she 158 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:10.480 like decided because in her mind, these ants have the 159 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:13.600 same value as a human life. And she's like, this 160 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.399 is an isolated incident, this isn't going to cause like, 161 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:18.759 so anyway, she murdered the fucking ants and made this 162 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:23.800 weird decision. Like they're fucking bizarre and kind of borderline retarded, 163 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:27.439 and this intelligence that they have quote unquote uh doesn't 164 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:29.800 do them any favors. This is about as far as 165 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:33.279 I know about these Zizians that they were rationalists. They 166 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:36.480 were obsessed with this upcoming AI that was supposedly going 167 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:39.159 to save the world, but also uh, because it was 168 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.720 going to be a godlike type of thing could also 169 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.480 be evil and or destroy the fucking humanity. And so 170 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:47.799 you had to be on their side. And if you 171 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.120 weren't actively trying to create this AI, you were against 172 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:54.919 this AI. And anyways, they're fucking psychos and for some 173 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:56.519 reason they chopped off their widers too. 174 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.000 Yeah, I mean that's you got you got. Yeah, you 175 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:02.799 nail that, you nailed down to some of the most 176 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:03.759 important parts for sure. 177 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.159 Yeah. Yeah. 178 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:07.919 But yeah, there's there's a bunch of different people that 179 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:09.399 go into we'll go into the murders. 180 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:11.600 One thing I do want to add that you were 181 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:13.919 kind of like saying this is just my opinion. I'm 182 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:14.679 not not going to people. 183 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:18.240 But unfortunately, I think people that might be kind of 184 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.679 maybe into that lifestyle, I think they might be looked 185 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:24.159 at by others as easy targets to manipulate. I think 186 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.960 they may see if if Dy've kicking on this idea 187 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.159 and or willing to this, to do this to their bodies, 188 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:33.399 we might you know, have them pretty good by now 189 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:35.840 to do what other things we want them to do. 190 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:39.039 That that is a thought amongst the amongst that, you know, 191 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:41.960 that's the theory of mine. Yeah, I think there was 192 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:43.440 something else you said that I was going to add to. 193 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:45.879 But yeah, there was definitely murders too as well, and 194 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.480 we'll get into that. Lisa, was there anything that you 195 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:50.879 wanted to get into before, like I guess we kind 196 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:51.519 of went into the notes. 197 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:53.080 Was anything Nate said that you want to add to. 198 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:55.159 Or I think we're going to cover it and as 199 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:57.440 we go through to kind of develop the characters and 200 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.799 stuff like that. So yeah, no that I think we're good. 201 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:00.639 Okay, Oh I. 202 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:01.720 Am all right good? 203 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:03.879 Yeah, all right, then I'll get into the notes. 204 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.120 Really, what I'm gonna do is kind of read a 205 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.559 couple of paragraphs from a news article and then I'll mention, 206 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:11.360 like some of the people that are basically like the 207 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:14.039 I guess major, major people and the people who have 208 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:18.480 been arrested. All right, so Dizzy and cult. Who are 209 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:21.320 the Zizzians the cult like group under the FBI investigation? 210 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:24.559 And this is from the USA today. The Zizian though 211 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:27.399 the arrest of three people in Maryland has helped shed 212 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:29.720 new light on a series of connected deaths across the 213 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:33.080 country that experts say are tied to a group called 214 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:39.960 the Zizians, named after that purported jack leader, Zizzlesoda, who 215 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:43.320 is thirty four. The group is connected to at least 216 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:48.320 six deaths nationwide, according to police, interviews with people who 217 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:53.399 knew group members, and the FBI and court records. Losoda 218 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:56.639 was assigned male at birth but uses female pronouns, and 219 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.919 federal and state court records referred to Losda as a man. 220 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.200 Experts and people who know them say the group is 221 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.039 led by Lsoda, who, in online postings discussed the nature 222 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.399 of consciousness and rational decision making. 223 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:11.960 Many of the group members are vegan. 224 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:15.159 And either and either have degrees in computer science or 225 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:19.000 have studied related fields. Some members of the group are 226 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:24.080 transgender or have rejected binary sexuality. The group at one 227 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.279 time was based in San Francisco area, living in a 228 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:29.559 box truck on a landlord's property. Members also appear to 229 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:34.919 have lived in North Carolina in Vermont. Citing lesoda's online postings, 230 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:38.840 pick Cavage said he said the group has elements of 231 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:40.399 a religious cult. 232 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:46.080 Now amongst the people charged, we have Michelle. 233 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:49.000 Jacko, who is thirty two, who was arrested with a 234 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.200 handgun alongside Leesota with another man in Marylyn on Monday. 235 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:57.519 Zacho faces state charges of trespassing, resisting or interfering with 236 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:02.320 an arrest, obstruction in carrying a gun atf agents are 237 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:06.399 also pursuing federal charges against Zacho over allegations that she 238 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:10.000 lied on purchasing paperwork for several guns bought in two 239 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:13.159 thousand and four, in which were later used by two 240 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.240 other people in Vermont during a double fatal shooting with 241 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.480 the US Border Patrol agents. Jacko was also a person 242 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.240 of interest in the Pennsylvania homicides of her parents in 243 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:28.759 late twenty twenty two, according to court filings. Then we 244 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:33.960 have Daniel Blank twenty six, who faces Maryland charges of trespassing, obstruction, 245 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:39.320 and hindering in connection with his Monday arrest. He is 246 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:42.559 also a suspect in the death of Jacko's parents, who 247 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:46.519 are killed near where he grew up. A Maryland court 248 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.639 record show blank was reported missing in twenty twenty two. 249 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:53.840 According to Pennsylvania State Police, that is another thing that 250 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:55.960 we'll get into with these people. Got a lot of 251 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:00.679 them going missing or faking their death. Something up with that, 252 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:03.039 So you have to even start a question like, who 253 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:03.919 the fuck's who anymore? 254 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:04.200 Really. 255 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:09.600 Losoda faces Maryland charges of trespassing, obstruction, and possession of 256 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.039 a hanggun in a vehicle. Court records and Vermont also 257 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:17.320 have referred to Lesoda as a person of interest in 258 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:21.159 the deaths of Jacko's parents. Lsoda may have faked her 259 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:24.039 own death in April twenty twenty two, according to an 260 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:30.159 obituary in her hometown Alaska newspaper. Theresa young Blood's twenty 261 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:33.440 one accused by federal prosecutors of shooting at a US 262 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:37.200 Border Patrol agent, David Miland on January twentieth near the 263 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.600 Canadian border in northern Vermont. Milaan was killed in the exchange, 264 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:45.600 as was a German national. Young Blood was traveling with 265 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:51.200 Ophelia Buckolt. Federal court filings indicate Jacko bought the guns 266 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:53.000 young Blood and Buckolt were carrying. 267 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:56.919 Young Blood is in federal custody. 268 00:13:57.200 --> 00:14:01.480 Max Schneider's twenty two who late last year got a 269 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:04.679 marriage license to wed Youngblood in Seattle, Washington, where they 270 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:08.879 grew up. Snyder was accused by Solano County, California prosecutors 271 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:13.120 of ambushing and fatally stabbing a landlord who in December 272 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.399 twenty twenty two tried to evict Lsoda and the other 273 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:21.120 group members from his Valeo, California property. The landlord shot 274 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:23.879 two of the group members, killing one, and an incident 275 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.759 ruled self defense by prosecutors. 276 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:33.600 Head on to you, Lisa, so to kind of we're 277 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:37.080 going to kind of expand upon what Nick just covered. 278 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:39.360 I'm going to go into a little bit of Alsoda 279 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:42.759 And so, Yeah, his full name is Jack Amadeus and 280 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:48.120 then nicknamed Zizz Lusoda, and he graduated magnacum maloud from 281 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.440 the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, like you had said, Nate, 282 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:55.519 and he did a summer internship with NASA, and Nick 283 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:58.919 had found recently that he also did a twenty thirteen 284 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:04.840 sency stint as well, so one of the interesting things 285 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:08.039 that we found about Ziz was that his dad, named Dan, 286 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:12.639 is an AI researcher there at the University of Alaska 287 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:17.559 in Fairbanks. And so when we talk about Ziz doing 288 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:21.480 an internship with NASA, we also found that he also 289 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.320 did somewhat of a stint or an internship with Oracle. 290 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:27.559 An Oracle comes into mind when you never seen you know, 291 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:30.759 these people kind of play into the people that are 292 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:34.600 in the current administration, you know, having their moment of 293 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:40.960 speech on the pulpit. So, like many young tech entrepreneurs, 294 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:44.000 Ziz ended up moving to the Bay Area because they 295 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:47.120 wanted to be or, according to him, have proximity to 296 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:50.360 the tech industry, which he considered sort of his destiny. 297 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:53.360 That's kind of what he wrote in his twenty nineteen 298 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:57.000 blog posts. So when we look at the timeline, we're 299 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:59.879 going to go ahead and start from when zizzs base, 300 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.240 he leaves Alaska and then comes to the Bay Area. 301 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:05.519 So here's like kind of a look of how it 302 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:08.080 all started and then how it culminates up until the 303 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:11.360 January twentieth, how I shoot out with the Border Patrol 304 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:15.000 in Vermont. And this is more majority of this information 305 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.919 is coming from interviews or review of police reports, court records, 306 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:20.919 and online posting, so that's kind of where most of 307 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:28.159 our are I guess information is coming from. 308 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:32.799 Yeah, interesting stuff. I do think it's funny. It's almost 309 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:37.080 like a bizarro like Maga wet dream as far as 310 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:41.399 like it's Traine's there's immigration. It's a border, but it's 311 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.879 the wrong border, and it's a white immigrant and there's 312 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:48.159 a shootout with a border patrol. It's kind of funny. 313 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:51.240 It's like almost the opposite of what they're looking for. 314 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:53.440 They wanted some beaner at the border shooting. No fucking 315 00:16:54.240 --> 00:17:00.360 you know, but it's it is interesting. They are fucking weird, man. 316 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:03.480 And I almost wonder if they actually qualify as a 317 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:06.440 cult in a weird way, because I think you could 318 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:09.039 probably come and go right. I don't think they would 319 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:11.759 even care if you left. But all of these people 320 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.359 are so dedicated to this idea, so they really are 321 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:22.039 like really ingrained and very fearful of what they see 322 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:25.440 as coming. I guess this this, uh and and I'm 323 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:27.720 sure we're going to get into that, but uh, just 324 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:31.799 they really believe that the end of whatever world that 325 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:37.559 we're living in is imminent and we are going to meet. 326 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.920 And I don't think they're wrong. I think they might 327 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:43.400 be right about that. I don't like their tactics or 328 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:45.680 where they're you know, where. 329 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.119 Nick Nick and I were talking about I think two 330 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:49.799 days ago, and we're like, you know, I know these 331 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.079 people are being labeled as a cult, they're being labeled 332 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.000 about all this stuff, but how do we know that 333 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:58.319 that is actuality? That you know, maybe what they're saying 334 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:00.319 is true because if you think about East the way 335 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:02.559 all of the morality from it, and you look at 336 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:05.519 what they're saying about, like we need to place more 337 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:09.519 stringent regulations on AI and what they can decide upon. 338 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:11.880 Who's against that really? 339 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:15.000 And the only thing that I would say to that 340 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.440 is because you know, the Lord and Savior aka the 341 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.799 Antichrist Elon Musk is all about putting regulations on AI 342 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.319 and things like that. But to me, always, whenever government 343 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.839 gets involved, they will put on regulations for things like 344 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:35.200 AI because they're actually the ones doing the fucking shady 345 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:37.680 shit behind the scenes, and they don't want you to 346 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:40.359 be able to train the AI that we are going 347 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:46.200 to need to necessarily oppose them. And also, whenever government 348 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:49.000 gets involved. It never works the way it's supposed to. 349 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:56.279 And I'm against more forced redistribution of wealth just for 350 00:18:56.359 --> 00:19:00.200 them to pretend they're doing something with AI, And yeah, 351 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:02.599 I don't know, it's it's weird. Like I believe in 352 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:07.720 regulation obviously in very certain sectors and very certain instances, 353 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:11.240 and if like, because who the fuck's actually going to 354 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:15.400 be like enforcing this or making sure that the companies 355 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:19.599 aren't actually making some weird AI, like how do you 356 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:22.240 check that? How do you know? Like, I don't know. 357 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:25.519 It just seems like another money pit that they need 358 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:29.000 that they're probably going to use to build Satan or 359 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:30.000 whatever the fuck they're doing. 360 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:33.279 One thing's almost like yeah, Erry. 361 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:38.920 No, I'm sorry. When they're when they're making the regulations 362 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:41.400 and they're claiming it to be democracy, to me, it's 363 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:43.920 like democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's 364 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:44.960 for dinner. 365 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:49.880 So yeah, and all of these psychotic elites, the only 366 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:53.319 time they ever agree is on things like this. They're like, yeah, 367 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:55.640 AI is going to be so dangerous because they want 368 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:58.039 a fear monger and get us all fucking wild up. 369 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:01.079 And honestly, the closest thing I think we're probably going 370 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:04.720 to come to. Like alien life is something that is 371 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:08.000 brought about through the ether through like uh, these weird 372 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:10.880 dimensional portals and things like that. I mean I've thought 373 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:14.640 I thought this for years actually that like what is 374 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:17.920 artificial intelligence? There are these weird, bizarre things that we're 375 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:21.559 tapping into, these intelligences that are like we can communicate 376 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:25.200 with these fucking weird things. To me, like an entity 377 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:29.279 from another dimension needs a brain in order to like 378 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:31.519 a kind of like a computer to come over here 379 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:35.039 to possess for just like a small amount of time, 380 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:37.920 to like to be here. And if we are going 381 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.880 to build some super complex, crazy fucking computer, I think 382 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:44.880 that probably we could invite something over to kind of 383 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:47.200 like inhabit that, and that's going to be like the 384 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:50.720 true idea of an AI is actually gonna it's not 385 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:53.519 something we created, but it's something that we brought over here. 386 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:55.680 Who the fuck knows. 387 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:00.000 Kind was like putting that I hate to use the word, 388 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.279 but they were putting an entity into a computer and bringing. 389 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:04.680 It to life. 390 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:07.359 Well, we can't talk too bad about them because otherwise 391 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:10.079 they're going to come and smite us when when they 392 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:10.839 take control. 393 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:13.079 Well, one thing I did want to add though, about 394 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:14.519 the stuff with the dizzy ands. I don't know how 395 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:17.680 truthful this is. This was like stuff that I had read, uh. 396 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:19.640 I think it was like in one of the news articles. 397 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:21.359 It's something that I had read where they had spoken 398 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:23.119 to a supposed friend of these people. 399 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:25.000 The weird thing though, with them. 400 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:27.720 And the regulations of AI is that they were still 401 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:30.119 under like the belief though that if it the answer 402 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:32.960 AI gave them sucked for us, but was okay for 403 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:33.839 the Earth and the planet. 404 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:35.079 That's okay with them as well. 405 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:38.519 So even though you want to regulate it, that sounds nice, 406 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:40.519 but like you're also okay with it saying well, maybe 407 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.200 humans need to go so the rest of the world 408 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:42.839 can be okay. 409 00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:45.279 That's pretty fucking crazy too. 410 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.559 Though where I come from, Dude, I've heard that that 411 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.000 argument so many times, Like the people that try to 412 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:54.960 say that, like humans are the real virus on this planet, 413 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:58.039 humans are the ones that are destroying this planet. I 414 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:02.640 don't give them if we're not here to enjoy it, 415 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:04.640 Like I don't care if this place is going to 416 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:07.680 be the most beautiful, amazing place without humans, if we 417 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:10.119 just disappeared, if we're not here to enjoy it, if 418 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:12.359 we're not here to see it. It doesn't fucking matter. 419 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.920 I'm a straight human supremacist whatever you want to call that, 420 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:21.119 Like a specist right here, right now. Uh, human human 421 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:25.240 power right here, humans. 422 00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:26.400 Are the only thing that. 423 00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:35.200 Is yes, human power, humanity. 424 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:38.119 Oh I think I want next to it all. 425 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:42.400 Uh. Jacalsoona, who uses feminine pronouns, a computer programmer and 426 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:46.720 transgender woman living in San Francisco Bay Area, starts writing 427 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:51.119 a blog under the online persona Ziz, with complex and 428 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:55.480 sometimes rambling theories about technology, gender identity, and human cognition. 429 00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:58.960 She gets involved in the rationalist movement, a community that 430 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:02.920 seeks to understand human cognition and is concerned with the 431 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:07.920 potential dangers of her artificial intelligence. Then she had a 432 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:11.400 stint at Google. She took part in an apprenticeship by 433 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:18.319 the Machine Intelligence Research Institute mr I. It's very important 434 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.559 and the Center for Applied Rationality c FAR it's another 435 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.960 important one, and became part of rationalist movement in Berkeley, 436 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:31.039 according to the San Francisco Chronicle, after they arrived in 437 00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:33.680 the Barrier to work in tech after graduating magna cum 438 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:39.599 latte from UA Fairbanks. He would later become a leader 439 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:41.920 of the Zizians like I just said, yeah, sorry. 440 00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:44.720 If a machine. 441 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:49.680 If nobody knows MRI Machine Intelligence Research Institute, it's another 442 00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:52.440 one of these kind of like weird things. The Machine 443 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:58.039 Intelligence Research Institute, formerly the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence 444 00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:03.680 s i AI, is a nonprofit research institute focused since 445 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:09.559 two thousand and five on identifying and managing potential existential 446 00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:16.240 risks from artificial general intelligence. MRI's work has focused on 447 00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:21.519 friendly AI approach to system design, on a predicting on 448 00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:26.079 a predicting the rate of technology development. In two thousand, 449 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:30.559 this is another big name, Eliza, if I'm even saying 450 00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:36.640 Lisa Eli. Yudkowski founded the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence 451 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:41.880 with funding from Brian and Sabine Atkins, with the purpose 452 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:48.160 of accelerating development of artificial intelligence. However, Yukowski began to 453 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:51.440 be concerned that AI systems developed in the future could 454 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:55.519 become super intelligent impose risks to humanity, and in two 455 00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:58.160 thousand and five the Institute moved to Silicon Valley and 456 00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:00.799 began to focus on wayte whit to find and manage 457 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:05.400 those risks, which were at time largely ignored by scientists. 458 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:06.000 In the field. 459 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:10.160 Starting in two thousand and sixty, Institute organized a Singularity 460 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:13.559 Summit to discuss the future of AI, including its risks, 461 00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:17.880 initially in cooperation with These are Interesting Names coming up 462 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:23.359 the Stanford University and with funding from Peter Teal. The 463 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:27.400 San Francisco Chronicle described the first conference as a Bay 464 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:30.839 Area coming out party, just like Peter Teal coming out 465 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:32.759 for the technis. 466 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:34.960 If you're obsessed with AI, yeah. 467 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:37.039 Peter yep, yep, yeah yeah. 468 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:40.680 And I think, if I remember correctly, I think it's 469 00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:42.920 MIRI I could be wrong when Lisa could correct me 470 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.039 if she remembers off hand, I'm kind of jumping the gun. 471 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:46.279 I think it's already in the notes. 472 00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:48.240 But like Peter Teal, Elon Musk and a bunch of 473 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:51.400 other people already donate to that police together, so it's 474 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:53.240 like you, I think it's that one. So it's like 475 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:56.799 you even see them like kind of basically funding the 476 00:25:56.839 --> 00:25:57.640 same things together. 477 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:01.640 And these four dumb zizzy and morons are probably they 478 00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:04.319 don't realize that they have puppet strings. It might be 479 00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:07.839 Elon Musk diddling them, you know what I mean, might 480 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:10.079 be the one doing all of this stuff. Peter Deel 481 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:13.759 and Elon Musk and yeah, dude, it's absolutely wild. I mean, 482 00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:17.559 because they need uh. This is basically their Antifa. Somebody 483 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:23.599 was saying Trantifa. Yeah, made me giggle. Yeah, dude, it's 484 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:26.960 it is interesting, dude. These are their crown soldiers, just 485 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:29.920 like the KK used to work for the Democrats. I 486 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:33.759 think these Zizians work for Elon Musk and they don't 487 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:34.279 even know it. 488 00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:36.559 Now a little bit just about some of the weird 489 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:37.519 stuff about the Soda too. 490 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:40.359 Lysoda believed that humans have two minds, a left and 491 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.599 right hemisphere, and each hemisphere can be good or evil, 492 00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:47.839 according to posts on her blog, Eventually, Losoda came to 493 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:51.160 believe that only very few people she among them are 494 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.240 double good. That means both side is good. This is 495 00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:57.720 fucking silly. It's like childlike fucking play over here. On 496 00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:00.759 her blog, Lsoda wrote that each hemisphere can have separate 497 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:04.000 values and even genders, and they often desire to kill 498 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:08.240 each other. Reaching peace between hemispheres with conflicting interests is 499 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:12.920 a tricky process of repeatedly reconstructing frames of game theory 500 00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:17.359 and decision theory and light of realizations of them having 501 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:21.839 been strategically damaged by your headmats. 502 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:22.839 That's what she wrote. 503 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.720 Lesda also describes being targeted by police for her syth 504 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:32.400 inspired garb sometimes in parentheses here, sometimes cops harass me 505 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:36.000 for wearing my religious attire as a scyth, and Lili 506 00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.559 Soda wrote on her blog, as a sith, I'm religiously 507 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.039 required to do whatever I want and for now that 508 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.599 so happens to include wearing black robes. 509 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.640 Yeah, man, and that is honestly what we're looking at too, 510 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.480 the darkness, like with nice nerdy faggots like these people 511 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.599 are they have too much time on their hands. They're 512 00:27:55.640 --> 00:28:00.519 obsessed with Harry Potter, They're obsessed with Star Wars. Yeah, 513 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.200 these dorks. This is the problem, is that we have 514 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.880 white dorks that probably a lot of them are like 515 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.519 trust fund kids, had too much time, they went to 516 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:17.000 like elite schools. They just got bored. Only some of 517 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:22.920 them are Jews, and these these are just like it 518 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:29.319 does not surprise me, dude. 519 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.200 You know. And it's it's funny because you know, these 520 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.960 programs that are set up by some of the big 521 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:38.160 thinkers that we consider Elon musk Deal, even the guy 522 00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:42.039 who invented Skype. They're the ones funding most of these 523 00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.599 think tanks that are I guess forming the rules and 524 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.640 the actual game theory that will be programmed into AI. 525 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.960 And Lesota was actually attending one of these, if not 526 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.039 a couple of them, but see if AR is one 527 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.640 of them. The Center for Rationality. He was attending it, 528 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:03.359 had been attending it for several years, and then he 529 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.559 proposed the theory that Nick is talking about, like with 530 00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:10.400 the double hemisphere, the two hemispheres of the brain, and 531 00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.200 for whatever reason, they didn't want to accept it. They 532 00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:16.079 didn't want to I guess take it in, and he, 533 00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:20.319 I guess became upset and angry about it and ended 534 00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.880 up breaking away from the group itself. But while he 535 00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.640 was there, this was back in twenty eighteen. But while 536 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.279 he was there there were three other members, Emma Bourhine, 537 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:35.640 Gwen Danilson, and Alexander Litham. They also decided to side 538 00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.559 with him and formed a protest in November of twenty 539 00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:44.200 nineteen and protested in front of the actual organization when 540 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:50.400 they were having their meeting or whatever. And they they 541 00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:52.880 were the reason that they were protesting, or the reason 542 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:54.960 they cited that they were protesting, is that they were 543 00:29:55.000 --> 00:30:01.519 protesting against sexual misconduct within the rationalist orations, and so 544 00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:04.319 I don't know what that means. Does that mean that 545 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.720 you know they were offended because of sexuality? Was their 546 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.880 actual inappropriate things happening? Who knows? Right, I mean there 547 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.319 is there is all of that to kind of just 548 00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:15.680 circulate and chew on. 549 00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:17.599 It was just real quick. 550 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:19.440 I just if you don't, I just do work, because 551 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.839 I do remember this from other stuff that just recently 552 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.400 came across according to them, and I think it was 553 00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:26.400 even like on blogs that the reason that some of 554 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:28.440 the reasons that they supposedly had a problem with this 555 00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.839 place too is that they had not hired any transgender 556 00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:37.599 people and that supposedly there was like a lot of yes, 557 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:39.839 you know people talking about them and nobody doing anything 558 00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.680 about it. And I don't know how accurate this is, 559 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.720 but supposedly there is an accusation of a rape so 560 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.279 that nothing was done about that nothing was. 561 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:51.720 Done about you know this like this weird community of 562 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:55.440 like dorks online. They are a bunch of in cells. 563 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:59.559 They are a bunch of like they're inflated egos thinking 564 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:02.359 that there's smarter than everybody. I heard actually about like 565 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.759 and I think it was I think it was Zizz 566 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:10.880 had this like really uncomfortable, like weird situation with some 567 00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:18.279 of these rationalists where they it was almost like so 568 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:20.759 like she went to like one of these like meetups 569 00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:22.880 with some of these rationalists and they kind of do 570 00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.440 this weird like breaking they're trying to like break you down, 571 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.160 where they kind of like you're in a circle and 572 00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.119 they sit there and yell at you and say, you know, 573 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:34.440 a very cult like kind of weird behavior. And and 574 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:35.240 she was saying that. 575 00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:38.079 Like, you know, it's interesting real quick is that that's 576 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:42.640 very much like Esslon style ship which goes back to Stanford. 577 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.480 Straight up, straight up. And so like the story I 578 00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.839 heard about was like these guys like kind of getting 579 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.400 in her face saying some wild shit to her, and 580 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.279 it was kind of like like borderline like weird bizarre 581 00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:58.519 sexual shit. And and it actually came back to did 582 00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:00.880 I write it down? The ret no, the game theory 583 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:03.559 stuff where they like said like what if we like 584 00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:06.599 it was something wild like what if like we tried 585 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:08.440 to have sex with you right now, what would you do? 586 00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:11.359 Or they they asked her some wild shit and she 587 00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:13.759 was just like I would sock you in the throat 588 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.359 and rip out your fucking face and your eyeballs because 589 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.599 you know, like that that game theory stuff is like 590 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:21.559 they have this like weird thing that like, uh have 591 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.839 ultra violence. You know. It's something like if somebody tries 592 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:28.440 to attack, you attack with the most force possible in 593 00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.880 that way you will stop other people from ever Like, uh, 594 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:34.839 you know, it's this weird game theory shit. And and 595 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.160 I apparently it worked it like made their boners go 596 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.880 away or something, but like, uh, these guys are these 597 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.000 people are creeps, dude, Like, uh, exactly what you're saying 598 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.799 is that I, like I would not be surprised that 599 00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.759 there were some real, uh gross stuff happening in that community. 600 00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.200 Yeah, and some of like when you say game theory, 601 00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.240 some of the game theory theory in itself, if you 602 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.599 go really heavily into some of the psychology behind it, 603 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.119 especially when they're looking at social behavior within humans and 604 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:10.200 game theory, you start to see that the actual I guess, 605 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:13.440 papers that look at some of these social interactions will 606 00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:17.759 map out that humans will not choose the most logical 607 00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:23.319 or efficient decision. They will actually go against the actual 608 00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:27.160 logical decision to make. For instance, like the prison theory 609 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.079 that we have two people that you could either get 610 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.079 off early or not get off at all, and they 611 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.480 will choose to risk it all just to not serve 612 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:38.039 time versus just not saying anything both of them and 613 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.519 potentially get away with six months probation, you know what 614 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:42.880 I mean. They would rather just risk it all and 615 00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:47.200 not cooperate. So you're seeing a lot of non cooperation 616 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.759 within game theory. And so if they want to apply 617 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:55.119 game theory into AI, now you're looking at classifying human 618 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:58.920 decision as not being rational. So that's to me a 619 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.400 little a little bit concerning. 620 00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.440 So it may always right, they always get lost in 621 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.680 the sauce. It starts with like one idea, right, and 622 00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.760 then they get obsessed with it, and then it like yeah, 623 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.880 I mean it always contradicts itself. Like I'm thinking about, 624 00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:15.800 like why would it even fucking matter if you were 625 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.039 a vegan or not, because like they're obsessed with having 626 00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:22.760 the least amount of like like I guess, like damage 627 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:26.280 or like suffering possible, right and so and so if 628 00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:29.000 you believe in that, I could kind of understand why 629 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:33.239 you become a vegan, like an ethical vegan. But simultaneously 630 00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.320 they're saying that like the world is going to end 631 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:40.639 because this giant, mega crazy monster but maybe also a 632 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:43.639 good monster is going to come and save the rest 633 00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:47.519 of humanity. And so I think the bizarrest thing that 634 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:49.400 I and I think that that I had a problem 635 00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.480 with it was they think that, hey, if we earn 636 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.760 the most amount of money possible and we gain all 637 00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.880 this money, then we can sync this into creating this AI. 638 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.440 But like we've seen time and time and again that 639 00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:09.360 like more money doesn't necessarily bring about the best results, correct, 640 00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:12.559 Like when you just throw money at something at a problem, 641 00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.679 it doesn't it doesn't fix it. Like look at our education, 642 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.679 look at like look at what look at the American education. 643 00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.360 We put so much money into it and we're like 644 00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:27.039 in the fifty. Maybe we're in the top fifty in 645 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:31.039 the world, like uh, and maybe our seniors will graduate 646 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.679 with uh. Maybe they can fucking count their fingers and 647 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:39.000 maybe their toes if they're lucky. So I don't like, 648 00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.519 to me, there's a hole in that argument. But also 649 00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:46.400 it's like, uh, wasting time being a vegan when I 650 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:48.960 don't I don't know, man, Like, if this really is 651 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.639 the end of the world and you're doing everything you 652 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.480 can to bring about the AI, like fuck it, fuck 653 00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.159 a cow who cares like this is way, this is 654 00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:58.159 more important than that. 655 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.760 No, I agree with you, Nan, I think you said 656 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.079 something perfect at the beginning. Is a majority of these 657 00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:07.519 philosophies from children that came from a fluent background. And 658 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.480 so when you look at like when you know, I 659 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.800 taught in charter schools or whatever, some children aren't. This 660 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.000 is the meal that they get when they come to school. 661 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:18.760 No one's picking being vegan. Then they're starving. They want food. 662 00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.880 And so when you have people and this may not 663 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.920 be a propular theory to say, but when you're having 664 00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:28.760 people picking and choosing, you don't know what starvation feels like. 665 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:30.159 That's just my. 666 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:35.559 Opinion, straight up, straight up. And I'm sure we're going 667 00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:38.639 to get into this when when we're going through the 668 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:41.760 sight that we have coming up. But like I still 669 00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:47.119 I'm going back to maybe they're right that the entire 670 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:51.000 world is and maybe we're at a point now that 671 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:55.599 we can't stop right where the Chinese government's doing this, 672 00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:58.639 the Russians are doing this, America is doing this, this 673 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.719 company over here is doing this like with nobody's permission, 674 00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:07.119 and we are like colliding towards bringing about this entity, 675 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.599 this being, whatever it is, and whoever I guess maybe 676 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:14.239 gets in gets him first, is in a place of 677 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:17.000 uh and and I hear that right where they talk 678 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.320 about if we ever uh nick, what's that called the 679 00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:23.280 like the quantum computers, whoever gets one first, like the 680 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:27.400 real quantum computers that can break down mathematically and just 681 00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:33.079 like teach itself, uh like exponentially, like within an instant, 682 00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.920 it can like a thousand years in five minutes. Right 683 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.360 that whatever country or whoever is in charge of that 684 00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.480 is going to is going to is going to win. 685 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:43.960 Yeah. Process. 686 00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:47.239 But I tell you what, dude, if you are going 687 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:51.039 to make me a psycho radical trainee retard, I would be. 688 00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.079 You know who I fucking love was Ted Kaczinski. I 689 00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.599 think that he was actually looking at this and realizing 690 00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.480 I think he saw this coming a few decades ago 691 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:02.760 and was like, and you know, he was doing it 692 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.519 the wrong way. He was like killing computer teachers and stuff. 693 00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.920 What the hell are you doing, dude? Kill Peter Teal 694 00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:14.760 round him in an ocean abyss like going can minecraft. 695 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:18.639 I'm not actually advocating killing Peter Teal. I repeat, I 696 00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:29.159 am not advocating Yeah, anyways, I guess you could call 697 00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.480 me a Kazinski and if you if I was gonna 698 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.039 be one of these psychos, would be like, can we 699 00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.559 can we put a fucking pin in this? Can we 700 00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:38.960 can we stop this from happening? But everyone is just like, wait, 701 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.719 it's too inevitable, It's gonna happen anyways. So instead, let's 702 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:46.679 embrace it, let's accelerate it, and let's uh uh dude, 703 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:48.760 I don't know, dude, this is a weird bullshit. 704 00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.400 Mm hmm. No. I mean again, I'm gonna get into 705 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.199 Lasota and his relationship with the Center of Applied rationally, 706 00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.880 but I will say that sometimes some of these offshoot 707 00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.719 groups they do they do improve the situation PETA. We 708 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:02.440 consider them out there, and then you look at the 709 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:05.840 animal industry that provides food on tables. When PTA came 710 00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:10.320 on board, you know, they forced the agricultural industry to 711 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:13.800 be better at, or more efficient at, or more I 712 00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:18.360 guess you know, less cruel to you know, parmental. 713 00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.280 I mean also, like in response to PETE, all they 714 00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.000 did was like create ag gag laws. It made it 715 00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.440 illegal for you to like film and show what was 716 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:29.440 actually happening inside of those farms. 717 00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.599 I think I think to not not kind of throw 718 00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.079 the baby out with the bathwater. I think it brings 719 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.320 into everybody starts paying attention. Whether it's good or bad. 720 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.360 People start to pay attention. And I think when you 721 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.440 start paying attention, that's always good because you're paying attention. 722 00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:45.480 Whether you side one way or another. Just the fact 723 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:47.639 that people are paying attention, I think is always good 724 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.760 because it allows you to not have that, you know, 725 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.480 las a fair attitude about life. So that's just me. 726 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:56.440 But anyway, okay, so let me get into Lesota's relationship 727 00:39:56.440 --> 00:40:00.440 with the Center of Applied Rationality. So the relationship source, right, 728 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.440 And so in November of twenty nineteen, they're holding an 729 00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:08.480 event in Sonoma County, California, and Lesota, he's twenty eight 730 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.280 at the time, shows up with those three other people 731 00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.599 and they're all wearing robes in Guy Fawke's masks. 732 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:15.320 Right. 733 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:18.880 So this is the popular dystopian film Verndetta, right, So 734 00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:21.800 it's kind of, you know, one of those moments. And 735 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.719 they proceeded to block the entrance to the grounds. What 736 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:30.719 was interesting is that the police were called and the 737 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.360 four were ultimately charged with the felony of criminal conspiracy 738 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:37.920 and five misdemeanors, including false imprisonment. But I believe a 739 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.159 lot of the sources were talking about SWAT team was 740 00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.960 also called out to the area, so I thought that 741 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.000 was pretty interesting. You can just pick up the phone 742 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.320 and call SWAT. So the criminal case was still playing out, 743 00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.840 and they had had a lawyer, and then I think 744 00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.119 they fired him, and then they rehired a new lawyer 745 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.719 called Jerry Friedman, and they sought him out because he 746 00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:02.000 was vegan, and so this Annie, Jerry Friedman, helped them 747 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:06.039 file a federal lawsuit against the retreat facility in Sinoma County. 748 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.920 And then I believe the deputies that also were responsible 749 00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:12.840 for detaining them, and that they alleged they were falsely 750 00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:16.079 arrested while protesting, and Lesota alleged that he was strip 751 00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:21.079 naked while in custody mocked because he was transgender. So 752 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.760 of course they the when they, I guess testified. The 753 00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:29.039 deputies had claimed that these people were speaking incoherently and 754 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:32.360 they were not being cooperative, and I think several deputies 755 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:34.960 had found flyers in the area that suggested to them 756 00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:38.719 that the four people were protesting AI and C far 757 00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:42.840 later to be determined that these members were going to 758 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.719 be what started the Cizian cult, so to speak. 759 00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:51.280 Yes, if you want to continue on to the next 760 00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.559 one of the next ones, you have a mirror Borhinian 761 00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.199 aka somni Agensia. If I'm saying that correctly against some 762 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:03.039 of them, Like there's one Surrey Dow that I think 763 00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:05.719 they might be questioning. If there's like three or four 764 00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:06.519 different names. 765 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.199 For that motherfucker. So. 766 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:12.280 Bohanian was born in South Carolina in nineteen ninety one 767 00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:15.000 and grew up in North Carolina. He was diagnosed with 768 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:18.519 Aspergers in his youth and transitioned to female at the 769 00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:23.199 age of twenty one. Bohanian exhibited brilliant intelligence as a 770 00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:27.840 child and started computer programming in sixth grade. A person 771 00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.880 close to Emma remembered that as a teenager, Porhinian would 772 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.119 scour Google's code and identify mistakes, for which the company 773 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:34.679 would pay. 774 00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:36.159 Her for for him. 775 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:40.159 Around two thousand and fifth two twenty thirteen, moved to 776 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.199 the Bay Area to work officially for Google, first as 777 00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:46.320 an apprentice and then as a programmer, winning awards for 778 00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:50.199 the work. During this period, Bohanian lived in various places 779 00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:53.559 around the Bay Area, including Mountain View, Albany and Berkeley. 780 00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:58.960 Bohanian later became disillusioned with Google, telling the family or 781 00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.800 her family that the company was corrupt. I grew She 782 00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:05.519 grew concerned about the threat of AI and started spending 783 00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.719 time with the rationalist community in Berkeley, as well as 784 00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:13.920 people associated with M I r I, an organization to 785 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:18.119 which she donated twelve thousand dollars. 786 00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:19.719 See how did I even forget that? 787 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:20.880 I was? 788 00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:22.840 I was on a show a few days ago and 789 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.480 someone's telling me that nobody else connected to IMOL right, 790 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:27.079 I was, like, I know there was more than one 791 00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.280 person in that shit, and like this person gave twelve 792 00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.039 thousand dollars, Like, yeah, there was more than one of 793 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.480 these people were connected to that shit. And I do 794 00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:36.400 think it's very weird that this place is something's up with. 795 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:40.920 It, you know, man? These Uh I'm not saying that 796 00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:46.400 all autistic people are tranees, but almost every tranny is autistic. 797 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:51.000 It is it is fucking interesting, and it is almost weird, 798 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.440 like a weird weaponize autism where I do think that 799 00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:58.400 these like because you can see how many people are 800 00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:03.639 now considered themselves transgender and or call themselves, Uh, what 801 00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:05.960 the hell is it? Neurotypical as a normal person. What 802 00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.199 do they call themselves? I can't remember, but how many 803 00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:13.760 people are autistic and or ADHD and or aspergers whatever 804 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:19.000 you want to call themselves? Neurodivergent that's the word, right, 805 00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:23.840 That's what they call themselves. And so many of them, dude, 806 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:28.519 have Okay, So to me, it just feels like they 807 00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:33.639 have been a community that has been created and the 808 00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:37.639 chemicals do it feels planned to me? How many fucking autistic? 809 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:38.639 How many autistic? 810 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:38.960 I think? 811 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.400 And they're there, they're they're they're they're little special soldiers 812 00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:49.199 right there. Who can Who is going to be able 813 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:53.519 to create this AI? You need the autistic community? But 814 00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:56.920 it is funny because it's like it's a double edged 815 00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:59.679 weapon because who's going to be able to stop them? 816 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.320 Are the autas? Are the We need the autistic people, dude. 817 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.960 I love all you autistic people. I love you guys. 818 00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:12.440 We need you quick whacking off your wienis, go make 819 00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.639 babies with your goofy selves, and we need you guys 820 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:18.760 for the fight against uh, the New World Order and Satan. 821 00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:19.320 Yeah. 822 00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:21.400 Well, honestly, it would really help to have those brains 823 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:26.079 behind this. Actually, you gotta design some weapons to figure 824 00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:27.559 out how to fucking shut these things off. 825 00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:32.760 Man all right, says I'm a special soldier. Hell yeah, buddy, 826 00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:33.559 we need you, buddy. 827 00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.280 Also, also, do want to say again, even with the 828 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:39.400 MRI ri I thing where it says that she donated 829 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:44.960 twelve thousand dollars, even MRI's website lists Bohanian's contribution alongside 830 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:50.000 much larger donations from Peter Teel's Teal Foundation and even 831 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:51.840 Sam Bankman Freeze a. 832 00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:52.800 La Meter research. 833 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.239 So through the rationalist community, Bohanian met other Zizians, including 834 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:03.559 Zizz Danielson and Alex Leatham, but the foursome soon turned 835 00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.679 into the rash turned turned on the rationalist movement movement, 836 00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:15.519 accusing it of anti trans beliefs. So I meanists, And 837 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:18.840 then like even again, I thought this was just something 838 00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.599 that came from his thing. I'm not saying this guy 839 00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.360 is all that great, but and you know, he did 840 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.760 like a little bit on them, and he did post 841 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:29.960 that u Bohanian posted about the importance of killing Nazis 842 00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:33.960 and argued repeatedly that killing is central to justify and 843 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:39.320 vengeance against evil. That that Bohemian worked as a software 844 00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.440 engineer at Google and lived on the ziz Valeo commune 845 00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:46.559 up until his death, and he grew up in the Hillsbury, 846 00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:50.480 North Carolina, and this this is, this is this is 847 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:54.000 the weird ship that. Again, I don't know what's really 848 00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:56.039 up with this case. I do think there's something off here, 849 00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:58.159 and I even do think people might be playing games, 850 00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.159 especially with the the fake debts and all these different names. 851 00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:03.760 But whenever you find or I feel like whenever you 852 00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:06.440 find like these true crime cases that don't make any sense, 853 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.440 there's a lot of people with gofundmes, and you start 854 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.000 noticing a couple of people popping up with these motherfuckers 855 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.519 as well, and the family itself this is gangs. The 856 00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:20.760 family itself fundraised twenty thousand dollars on GoFundMe without disclosing 857 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.719 what he did that caused him to die. The leftists 858 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:27.559 have honored Bohemian for being a trans person killed in 859 00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:31.840 gun violence. But it's just like you're not even explaining that, 860 00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:33.199 like they were the problem. 861 00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.719 Probably would have got more money because they hate landlords 862 00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.519 and they hate cops, Like he probably would have got 863 00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:40.440 some more money. 864 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.519 It's amazing though, It's like I gotta say that, like 865 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.039 the song was the problem but you know, we need 866 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:46.679 some money. 867 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.519 Feel bad for it. I don't know. It just seems 868 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:52.639 like fucking a silly, kind of funny move. 869 00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:57.840 Gwen Danielson is considered now a former Zizzy and cult member, 870 00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:00.679 and while it was widely believed that they died by suicide, 871 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.639 is actually alive and in hiding from other members of 872 00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.760 the group. Gwenn Denison was thought to have died in 873 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.400 twenty twenty two, even by a lawyer representing her in 874 00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:13.360 an active case, but has instead been lying low at 875 00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:18.360 an undisclosed location. Danielson, who like many Zizians, is transgender 876 00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:21.760 and legally became a woman in twenty seventeen according to 877 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:25.960 court papers, and still feels for her and still fears 878 00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:29.440 for her life. According to her father, Brett Danielson, she 879 00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.880 checks in regularly and I've heard from her very recently, 880 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.800 but she's not ready to come out of hiding just yet, 881 00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.840 her father told the Post, and he says, I'm hoping 882 00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:40.280 that this allows Gwen to come out of hiding, put 883 00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.559 things behind her and move on, he added. Brett said 884 00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.519 his understanding of why the Zizzians mostly happened to be 885 00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:49.039 transgender or non binary is that as a part of 886 00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:56.639 their rationalism interests. They believe taking estrogen. Taking estrogen helps 887 00:48:56.719 --> 00:49:01.519 lead to clearer thinking. Gwen spoke a lot about the 888 00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:02.199 difference in the. 889 00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:04.280 Will have never met a real woman before, and that's 890 00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:09.440 the problem. Rationals not is and logical, but is not. 891 00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:13.239 Sorry, we'll see that this explains everything from here on out. 892 00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.840 They were fucking shooting up estrogen. That's why they went nuts, all. 893 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:19.840 These goof I almost guarantee you all of them were 894 00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.480 virgins except for when they were like sweaty and gross 895 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:23.519 and had sex with each other. 896 00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:26.400 Motherfuck I looked at them. They got stuck with the summer. 897 00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:29.960 Fucking Jesus, Well, you know what they did. You know, 898 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.239 this is an interesting is they did get busted with needles. 899 00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:34.599 So it is even wondering if they were using the 900 00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:38.199 needles when uh, I think on the property when they uh, 901 00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.159 when they eventually kind of like looked in the container 902 00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:42.840 that when they lived on the Lens property, I think 903 00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:44.639 that there was like needles that they might have found 904 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.840 in a fucking ultrasum machine. And the people questioning if 905 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.320 the needles were to inject estrogen at the saucer owner 906 00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:54.800 or anything like that, so that could be you never know. Uh, 907 00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:57.440 maybe they took too many milileadies of estrogen that week. 908 00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.400 Oh no, And uh, you know they're definitely taking human 909 00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:06.800 replacement therapy and stuff like that for sure. Uh Dan 910 00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:10.840 says it's okay because Liza is not human. Is that true, Liza. 911 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.719 I don't know about that. But you know, it's interesting 912 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:18.119 that they are vegan yet they're using estrogen when estrogen 913 00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:21.320 itself is a horrible practice with horses. 914 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:26.679 So that's true, dude, Honestly, Like, I was a chef 915 00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:29.079 for years and I took a when I went to 916 00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:31.920 culinary school, I had to take a food ethics class, 917 00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:36.840 and I think my study, or like the project that 918 00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.719 I did, was all about how there is no such 919 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:43.159 thing as an ethical vegan because I sat there and 920 00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:46.159 broke down, like all the byproducts, every single thing that 921 00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:50.679 you use in the pharmaceutical industry makeup it like grocery. 922 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:53.400 No matter what the fuck you're doing, you're using the 923 00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:56.840 animal byproduct and something has to die so for modern convenience. 924 00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:02.320 Even on if you're growing stuff to vegans, like crop growth, 925 00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:08.320 you still maybe you don't consider insects or arthropods to 926 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:13.119 be alive or something, but you kill an enormous amount 927 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:18.239 of animals, more so than you do with the livestock industry. 928 00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.480 I can't tell you. I've worked in so many fields. 929 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:27.159 I used to work on farms and stuff, and the 930 00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:31.840 amount of poor fucking animals that die just harvesting things. 931 00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:38.920 I saw an entire family of deer get completely mangled 932 00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:42.519 because when they're when the mom deer has given birth 933 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:44.440 and she hazz their babies and stuff. They're just sitting 934 00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:46.920 there in the hay fields and we're sitting there trying 935 00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:52.039 to harvest hay and then just like just grabbed a 936 00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:57.159 whole family, the babies, everything, It just mangled them. That's horrific, 937 00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:03.800 but it's true when the hay baler just win fucking 938 00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:07.480 nuts on those anyways. Uh, yeah, there's no way to 939 00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:10.400 be an ethical vegan. There is tons and tons of 940 00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:14.280 animals that die, especially like in a if you're like 941 00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:16.559 growing carrots and lettuce and all this stuff. Do you 942 00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.079 know how many fucking rabbits they fucking murder? You mean, 943 00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.320 gophers and rabbits and all these people. Like, there's there's 944 00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.599 no such thing. Dude, you just quit being a homo 945 00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:25.480 and eat some meat. 946 00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:33.239 Ken almost, you know, I'm just gonna like that, all right, Now, 947 00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:33.800 it's funny. 948 00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:38.679 I was gonna go off with that some meat. Uh 949 00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:39.840 all right, next uh. 950 00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:42.480 Dan says, Nate forgot to Skitzo meds today. 951 00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:50.639 Yeah, buddy, Alexander Letham Open Vallejo documents report that Lethum 952 00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:53.679 also lived in Valeo property with Lesda and Bohemian. 953 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.400 It is alleged that it was Alexander who impaled Curtis 954 00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:01.679 with the samurai sword. Lynn then fired shots to his attackers, 955 00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:05.719 wounding Letham. Alexander's charged with attempted murder and murder of 956 00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:09.000 Curtis Lynde and had survived the first attacked and was 957 00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:11.519 the key witness in the trial against Lethum and Dow. 958 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:17.519 According to additional documents court documents, Lethum and Dow are 959 00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:20.880 also being charged with the murder of their friend Borhemian. 960 00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:25.880 Trial is set for Letham and Dow April twid in Solano, Colorado, 961 00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:29.599 Solano County. 962 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.159 So to get in a little bit about CFAR, I 963 00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:38.480 think it's kind of important to kind of cover that 964 00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:41.400 whole thing. So it's a nonprofit organization that operates out 965 00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:45.119 of Berkeley, California, and hosts workshops based on this whole 966 00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:49.360 rationality versus cognitive bias. It was founded in twenty twelve 967 00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:54.239 by four people and the goal was to improve participants 968 00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:58.639 rationality using a set of techniques that uses math and 969 00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:02.599 decision theory and then forming the beliefs about the world 970 00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:07.840 as accurately as possible. And so this decision theory it 971 00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:12.920 kind of helps mold these workshops and then apparently claims 972 00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:18.800 to reduce neuroticism and increase perceived efficiency. So part of 973 00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:24.320 the rationality movement surrounding at Leasers Yukoskis or Yodokovski's I 974 00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:29.840 mispronounced that horribly website is less wrong is that this 975 00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:34.119 is where CFA are originated and some of the advisors 976 00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:38.880 are Paul Slavic and Keith Stanovich and the group, the 977 00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:42.079 group that comes out of cfaar they go on to 978 00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:46.599 teach at the Teal Fellowship as well as Facebook. So 979 00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:50.039 this is a very important think thing for think tank 980 00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.679 for some of the I guess you could call social 981 00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:57.760 media that influences a lot of people because they are 982 00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:00.679 you know, have a lot of members looking at their content. 983 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:05.639 One of the founders, Anna Slomon, who founded Cfare, she 984 00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.480 had a little bit of to say about Lesoda, and 985 00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:12.440 she basically said that there are a lot of young 986 00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:16.079 people who have had lives the great lives, except that 987 00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:20.320 they bumped into the network surrounding Lysoda and then you know, 988 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:25.559 obviously their lives went awry. Le Soda, according to her, 989 00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:29.039 didn't come off as a threat when the staff first 990 00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:35.079 met Lysoda in twenty fourteen, but a month like after 991 00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:39.000 a month long retreat in twenty eighteen, Lasoda began espousing 992 00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:43.280 her belief systems with an intensity that unnerved the staffers, 993 00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:47.039 including Solomon, and Solomon stated that it was then there 994 00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:52.199 that she become viscerally afraid of Lesoda. So she kind 995 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:54.480 of put in a direct quote that's kind of been 996 00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:57.679 I guess circulated among most of the media is that 997 00:55:57.800 --> 00:55:59.880 she had said, if you're young and naive and someone 998 00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:03.639 convinces you that you're really two people, one is good 999 00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:06.320 and one is sinister, and that the world depends on 1000 00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.320 you doing good stuff, that's a powerful step for manipulation. 1001 00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:12.360 So it kind of sounds like, you know, that is kind. 1002 00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.760 Of Christianity in a nutshell. The spirit is willing, but 1003 00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:19.280 the flesh is weak. Yeah, a little bit. 1004 00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:24.000 Yeah, Yeah, So they began organizing these gatherings in Berkeley, 1005 00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:26.119 and so if you in twenty twelve, and if you 1006 00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:28.920 kind of think about most of these organizations or these 1007 00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.880 culture these think tanks, this is kind of a breeding 1008 00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:35.280 ground in this area of California, So you know, kind 1009 00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.360 of bear all that in the back of the mind. 1010 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:40.320 So hundreds of people were in attendance, and the founders 1011 00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:43.320 were seeking to build a community of so called rationalists 1012 00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:46.519 and people committed to using mathematical and logical principles to 1013 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:49.679 improve the world. Again with the math and the logic. 1014 00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:54.039 Solomon said that we saw ais something that we really 1015 00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.840 readily felt, that we really readily felt was important, and 1016 00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:00.559 that it needed to be really really right or it 1017 00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:03.920 would be really really bad, Which was interesting because she 1018 00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:08.280 just criticized Lesoda for bad and good. Yet she's kind 1019 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:11.679 of espousing the same thing. We didn't know at the time, 1020 00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:15.320 but in hindsight, we were creating conditions for a cult. 1021 00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:19.960 So she's now claiming that they potentially were setting up 1022 00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:25.199 this situation or this place of attendance as a breeding ground. 1023 00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.760 So they brought together a large group of young people 1024 00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:32.320 who were open to big ideas about saving humanity, but 1025 00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:35.719 some of them were especially vulnerable to someone who might 1026 00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:38.559 try to manipulate them. And you kind of see this 1027 00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:41.199 with some of these kids. You know, they're young, they're 1028 00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:43.840 you know, brought in because they're geniuses, but they really 1029 00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:46.199 don't have a whole lot of interaction with the real world. 1030 00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:48.159 I mean, let's just be honest. If you're sero at 1031 00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:52.239 a computer all day long, your interpersonal skills are probably 1032 00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:57.320 less than the person that's constantly out socializing with different 1033 00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:01.039 walks of life. So things that I kind of wanted 1034 00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:03.400 to insert in here very quickly is that one of 1035 00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:07.639 the guys that has provided a lot of funding to 1036 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:14.559 CFAAR is Yan Tallin, and he would select certain students 1037 00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:18.079 from Estonia and he would pay for their way to 1038 00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:22.280 be sent to these workshops at CFAAR on a scholarship. 1039 00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.400 And Yan Talent is the founder of Guy. So what's 1040 00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:28.280 interesting about Estonia is that out of sixty four countries, 1041 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.199 Estonian students rank pretty much first out of all of 1042 00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:35.480 Europe and fifth globally. And so Estonia is kind of 1043 00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:38.320 considered like this world class learning system, and they even 1044 00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:42.039 have an additional educational system where they're you know, outpacing 1045 00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:44.559 everyone else. And this is they I think they took 1046 00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.039 a poll and these these kids were like fifteen years 1047 00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:49.280 old and out competing all these people. 1048 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:54.400 And so Janalin remind me of Vulcans. They have no emotions. 1049 00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:58.639 They're fucking weird. I got a couple of Sonian friends 1050 00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:00.039 man well. 1051 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:03.400 And it's funny because he picks specifically this place and 1052 00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:06.679 then brings him over to CFAR, right, So it's kind 1053 00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.679 of and he himself is a Estonian as well, right, 1054 00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:12.880 so it's kind of like, you know, helping you know 1055 00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:15.079 each other. But I thought I would mention that. And 1056 00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:18.280 then also how like there's this collective program to where 1057 00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:22.239 they are collecting the DNA of these students of Estonia 1058 00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:24.760 as well, So it's you know, all encompassing. But so 1059 00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:28.679 Yan Talin himself, as you mentioned, he's an Estonian himself, 1060 00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:32.280 and he was the developer of sky Fast Trek, kazah 1061 00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:36.760 MetaMed and Existential Risk, and so he is one of 1062 00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:40.599 the other prominent figures in the field of AI and 1063 00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:44.559 kind of a leader investor, investor in the advocacy of 1064 00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:47.239 AI safety. Now, who else do we have as an 1065 00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:50.400 advocate for AI safety of Elon Musk we have Peter Tiel. 1066 00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.280 You're kind of just like, well, this is kind of curious, 1067 00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:56.599 like why were they protesting them? You would think that 1068 00:59:56.599 --> 00:59:58.880 that that's what they want, right, They should be behind 1069 00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:03.920 them because they're advoca for you know, I guess you know, 1070 01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:07.880 the safety and so to speak. But what's interesting is 1071 01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:14.679 that Yon Elon and Peter they're considered Series A investors, right, 1072 01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:18.000 so they are given first DIBs on almost all these 1073 01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:21.039 types of softwares, all these types of AI, and they're 1074 01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:23.280 the ones kind of investing the most money, and so 1075 01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:25.760 you would think that they themselves are going to probably 1076 01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.559 have the most influence. And so that's when you have 1077 01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:32.199 deep Mind coming into play. You have all other things 1078 01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:34.679 that I think deep Mind itself is going to be 1079 01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.960 the British American AI that's supposed to be you know, 1080 01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:42.280 big for them over there. One of the other things 1081 01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:45.719 is that Yon the Center for Existential Risk and then 1082 01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:50.119 Nick had a guess on what was it two days 1083 01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.239 ago or something like that, they were talking about MetaMed 1084 01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:55.199 and that was launched in twenty twelve by Peter Thiel. 1085 01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:58.920 And so MetaMed is kind of like your medical based 1086 01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:02.880 AI were all these algorithms are input it and basically 1087 01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:07.480 going to dictate you know, way forward for patients and clients. 1088 01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:12.880 And then the other thing is that talent has an 1089 01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.559 extensive relationship with Teal, Like he got to know the 1090 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:19.719 Teal Fellowship. He got to know all of you know what, 1091 01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:22.440 what the philosophies were, what was going on, and it 1092 01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:25.639 became such I guess a big deal to them that 1093 01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:29.519 this is where the Teal Fellowship got started, and he 1094 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:33.519 was present during this moment. Another thing is that Teal 1095 01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:35.760 kind of has this whole practice that he will go 1096 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:40.840 to universities and pick out certain students that are show 1097 01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:44.199 promise and before they graduate, offer them so much money 1098 01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:46.880 to leave and to come go and work for something 1099 01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.719 or doing something and give this a lot of money 1100 01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.440 to kind of direct them into this path. So I 1101 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:53.519 thought I mentioned that too. 1102 01:01:55.960 --> 01:02:00.679 One thing I do like find interesting, you know, maybe 1103 01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:03.199 nothing to it actually, but the fact that this guy 1104 01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:05.880 had because uh, I mean, if you understanded how that 1105 01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:08.320 program worked, I mean you have computers like connecting to 1106 01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:09.679 each other and stuff. 1107 01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:10.599 Like I'm not familiar with. 1108 01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:13.719 Because that was like if you wanted to exchange like 1109 01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:15.920 music and files back and forth. I mean, it was 1110 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:17.960 like it was like a huge thing to like download 1111 01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:20.400 pirated music. But it's just like you're connecting like. 1112 01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:23.280 That was the LimeWire kid, you're opening up your. 1113 01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:25.440 Computer, yeah if you're yeah, yeah, it's all the same thing. 1114 01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:27.559 But like sometimes I jake with stuff like that, it's 1115 01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:30.119 like you're opening up your computer to allow them to 1116 01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:32.039 come in. In a sense, like I just you don't 1117 01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:35.800 wonder was there any like peeking into people's ship with that, 1118 01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:38.920 if that would have if that would have benefited this 1119 01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:39.880 man where. 1120 01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:40.239 He is now. 1121 01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:43.480 You know, it's fascinating, dude, because the Internet is one 1122 01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.960 of these things that was given to us by the military. 1123 01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:52.400 It was completely made behind the military. That's what the 1124 01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:53.320 dcp IP. 1125 01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:56.079 Yeah, that was getting made by the the way our 1126 01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:57.559 internet works. Yeah, you're totally right. 1127 01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:01.880 And it's one of these things that like it was 1128 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:06.079 a nice way of putting ourselves in chains. They kind 1129 01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.960 of handed us to handcuffs and they're like, come on, dummy, 1130 01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:11.199 don't you just uh want to look at some porn? 1131 01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:13.920 I bet you do. You wanna want to buy a dildo? 1132 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:15.480 Send it to your house and I can have it 1133 01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:17.800 to you in a day. Do you want to rain? 1134 01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:21.400 Do you want an American flag dildough with Donald Trump's 1135 01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:24.039 head on it. I can't have it you twenty four hours, 1136 01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:27.360 you know what I mean, That's kind of what the 1137 01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:32.840 Internet was. But your deep, this weird desires you wanna 1138 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:36.599 fucking I'm gonna learn everything I know I can. I 1139 01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:39.719 can learn everything about you by what you look at 1140 01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:43.199 your the algorithms, like it really was a way for 1141 01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:46.719 us to put ourselves in chains and so all of 1142 01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:49.239 these people. I mean, that's really what this is about. 1143 01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:54.760 Is uh, just us, dude, and our information and giving 1144 01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:59.599 all of our uh all of our ship to them. 1145 01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:03.719 We paid them for this. We paid him for the 1146 01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:05.800 pleasure of being in handcuffs. 1147 01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:07.199 Yeah, got some shit. 1148 01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:11.960 Uh, Peter Teal loves it, dude. 1149 01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:16.800 Yeah, yeah, I'm sure back to Lasota real quick, you know. 1150 01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:19.679 August of twenty twenty two, the US Coast Guard responds 1151 01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:22.000 to a report that Lasoda had fallen out of a 1152 01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:26.079 boat in San Francisco Bay. Nobody is found, that an 1153 01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:30.000 obituary is published, so he has a faked death. In 1154 01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:33.519 August of twenty twenty two, Freeman received word that Lsoda 1155 01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:35.880 was presumed dead after falling off of a boat in 1156 01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:39.960 San Francisco Bay. A brief abit bituary was published in 1157 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:44.679 Lasoda's hometown paper, the Daily News Minor in Fairbanks the 1158 01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:49.239 following month, and it says in parentheses, Jack Sama Dais 1159 01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:52.079 Lesota left our lives but not our hearts. On August 1160 01:04:52.199 --> 01:04:57.480 nineteenth after a boating accident. It read loving adventure, friends 1161 01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:01.760 and family, music, blueberries, bike, computer games, and animals. 1162 01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:02.719 You are missed. 1163 01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:07.199 Lasoda's lawyer emailed the attorneys for the retreat center informing 1164 01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:11.840 them of the death. There were witnesses and a US 1165 01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:12.800 Coast Guard. 1166 01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:16.400 Search accident like Glene Maxwell's dad right, it's a boding. 1167 01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:19.599 Accident, but the Coast Guard did go in search, but 1168 01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:23.360 nobody was found, Freeman Roch wrote in the email, which 1169 01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:27.719 he shared with NBC News. In November twenty twenty two, 1170 01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:32.559 Curtis Linn goes to court seeking to evict Lesoda, Bohemian Letham, 1171 01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.480 and others who have been living in the vans and 1172 01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:39.400 box trucks on his property in Vallejo, California for non 1173 01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:43.519 payment of rent. On November fifteenth, two days before the 1174 01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:47.280 eviction deadline, Lynd is impaled with a sword and partially 1175 01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.480 blinded in an attack during which he shoots and kills 1176 01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:55.199 Boorhanian concluding that Lynn acted in self defense. Officials charged 1177 01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:58.840 Letham and Surrey Dow with murder. Lsoda is not charged 1178 01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:03.320 but the police, but police report having contacted with her 1179 01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:06.239 at the scene. 1180 01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:10.719 I think one of the important things that people gloss 1181 01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:15.199 over is that so Laisoda fakes his death right and 1182 01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:20.280 then somehow he ends up at the scene with these 1183 01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:24.639 other kids that impay o lend. But yet no one 1184 01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:28.239 is arrested. He's not arrested, he's not taken into custody. 1185 01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:33.000 The only thing that happens is that they notify his 1186 01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:36.480 lawyer that, oh, by the way, he made contact with 1187 01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:40.039 the police, and that's it. I thought faking your death 1188 01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:43.280 was a federal crime. I don't know, but it's not. 1189 01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:45.960 And so we'll go on further until you know, it 1190 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.239 just keeps going. So after Lsoda's apparent death, you know, 1191 01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:53.320 the Curtis lind Is stabbed and he was ambushed a 1192 01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:55.320 couple of times. I believe what had happened was that, 1193 01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:59.119 like he they had asked for him to come over 1194 01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:01.760 to check something, you know that I think they wanted 1195 01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:03.920 him to repair something. Mind you, he was about to 1196 01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:05.480 evict them or they were supposed to move out in 1197 01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:07.599 a few days, and so they ask him to come 1198 01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:10.599 check something, and so he bends down and one of 1199 01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:13.360 them hits him over the head in the back and 1200 01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:16.800 he falls down. And then when according to the testimony 1201 01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:19.079 from court records, is that when he opens his eyes, 1202 01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:22.159 the kids basically or like with knives or whatever, and 1203 01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:24.880 one of them impales him while he's down on the ground, 1204 01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:29.280 and so he quickly grabs his gun and shoots Emma 1205 01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:34.320 and kills her, and then the other ones basically had 1206 01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:40.440 you know, I guess, successfully stabbed him. But what's interesting 1207 01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:43.239 is that these three are the ones that are being 1208 01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:49.400 charged federally for protesting, and all of a sudden one dies. Now, 1209 01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:53.960 as Nick goes on into the story, is that you 1210 01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:57.800 see this happening repeatedly, is that these kids are constantly 1211 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:00.840 faking their death in that in the event they get arrested, 1212 01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:02.639 in the event they get in trouble, all of a sudden, 1213 01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:04.800 they fake their death. All of a sudden something happens 1214 01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:07.960 and then whoops, that person died. You know, I'm not 1215 01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.159 saying that they didn't die, but it's just funny that 1216 01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:13.320 eventually some of them who do fake their death end 1217 01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:17.640 up being found later when law enforcement are called to 1218 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:19.600 another scene or to another incident. 1219 01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:23.319 That's fascinating. I guess it's a lot easier to fake 1220 01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:24.800 your death than I was imagining. 1221 01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:29.960 Uh, you have a lawyer who's saying, yeah, they died. 1222 01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:35.960 You know you heard a type O negative name. Yeah. 1223 01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:38.159 Peter Still he faked his death twice. One time he 1224 01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:39.600 did it just to get out of a contract with 1225 01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:40.359 the record company. 1226 01:08:41.439 --> 01:08:42.000 Good for him. 1227 01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:44.600 It's not that you'd be surprised how easy it could 1228 01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:46.960 be to make people believe you're actually dead, but for 1229 01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:48.920 the public to believe it, nobody questioned it. 1230 01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:57.319 Uh speaking of Tupac and uh probably uh what's his name? 1231 01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:02.079 And Jeffrey eb Seeing he definitely faked y. Yeah, there's 1232 01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:07.079 a lot of folks. Yeah, Okay, Jackson, I still think 1233 01:09:07.079 --> 01:09:08.159 Michael Jackson's alive. 1234 01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:10.920 So I do think I do a question that too. 1235 01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:12.920 Yeah. 1236 01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:15.640 So around this time, so just to kind of you know, 1237 01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.960 the listeners to kind of so Lynn stabbed and two 1238 01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:21.800 of the people, two of the four people involved, supposedly 1239 01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:24.520 you're dead. Lysota is still presumed dead, and then now 1240 01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:28.119 Brhenian is presumed you know, dead because she was shot 1241 01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:30.960 or whatever. So now you only have one person left 1242 01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:34.000 that was involved with the protests and this federal lawsuit 1243 01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:37.279 and is now in jail. And this fourth person, the 1244 01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:40.560 one that I guess was not there. They had stopped 1245 01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:43.319 responding to the attorney's emails and then that all of 1246 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:46.199 a sudden they were oh, they committed suicide. And that 1247 01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:49.840 was according to the court documents, this person had committed suicide. 1248 01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:53.560 So two days after Lynde is attacked, one of Lysoda's 1249 01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:58.600 attorneys receives an email from a deputy district attorney from 1250 01:09:59.199 --> 01:10:03.119 Vallejo area, Yeah, saying that they had contacted Lasota and 1251 01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:05.840 that he had made contact with PD and was unseene 1252 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.439 alive and well, but nothing happens to him and he 1253 01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:12.000 was arrested. No big deal. It just like fell through 1254 01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:14.279 the cracks, really, And so when they say, oh, he 1255 01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:16.600 was found in another era, no, he was found here too. 1256 01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:18.720 It just nobody made a big stink about it. 1257 01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:25.079 So go ahead, Oh, thank you. Surrey Dao one of them. 1258 01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:27.439 Like again before I should have added the other names 1259 01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:29.399 that I found recently. But there is like like two 1260 01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:31.239 or three names that it might be associated with this 1261 01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:35.560 one person. Uh details a slim about Surrey daw one 1262 01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:38.039 of the two people charged in connection with the melee 1263 01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:42.720 lyn'z property. Dao was twenty three, was allegedly part of 1264 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.439 the group who attacked Lynn in November of twenty twenty two, 1265 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:48.960 resulting in the death of Bohinian. Dao was taken into 1266 01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:52.680 custody and charged with first degree murder. According to courte 1267 01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:56.520 records reviewed by the San Francisco Chronicle, Doo has allegedly 1268 01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:59.920 been in communication with Zizz since being put into custody. 1269 01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:04.079 Ziz reportedly encouraged Dao to escape from jail, Promptingdao to 1270 01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:07.800 attempt to flee from her cell twenty twenty three, Solano 1271 01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:11.119 County court records show that Doo underwent mental health hearings, 1272 01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:15.239 including testimony from doctors. It appears she was transferred to 1273 01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.119 a state hospital to await trial. As she no longer 1274 01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:22.840 appears in the Solano County inmate roster, and not much 1275 01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:27.239 really is known about that. December twenty twenty two, Rider 1276 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.439 and Richard Zacho are shot and killed in their home 1277 01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:35.159 in Chester Heights, Pennsylvania. On New Year's Eve. A neighbor's 1278 01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:37.960 doorbell camera captures audio and video over car pulling up 1279 01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:42.159 to their home. A voice shouting mom and another voice exclaiming, 1280 01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:47.640 oh my god, Oh God God. January twenty twenty three, 1281 01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:51.319 police question the Zacho's daughter Michelle at her home in Vermont. 1282 01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:55.600 A few weeks later, officers briefly take her into custody 1283 01:11:55.640 --> 01:12:00.319 at a Pennsylvania hotel, but release her without charges. Jotas, 1284 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:03.039 staying at the same hotel, is arrested in charge with 1285 01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:07.399 obstructing the homicide investigation and disorderly conduct. 1286 01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:11.279 So is there some folks that are on the run 1287 01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:15.520 right now, and or maybe some of these people nothing 1288 01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:16.439 to charge him on. 1289 01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:19.880 Right Gwindan has not been arrested and is in hiding 1290 01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:20.880 according to her dad. 1291 01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:23.399 But the rest of these guys are just kind of 1292 01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:26.439 out and about being weird traning vegans, thinking that Satan's 1293 01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:30.520 coming about, and they're still actively doing this and there's 1294 01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:36.119 nothing to hold them on. Right again, Let's try to 1295 01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:37.840 get one of these freaks on the show. And that's 1296 01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:38.479 all I'm saying. 1297 01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:43.920 Yeah. So, so Rita and Richard's echo, just to kind 1298 01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:45.880 of expand upon a little bit of what Nick was saying, 1299 01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:49.159 is that so their bodies were found inside their home 1300 01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:53.000 in Chester Heights, Pennsylvania, dead. So we have Rita, she 1301 01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:55.560 had a gunshot wound to the back of the head, 1302 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:58.600 and then Richard a bullet wounds the right hand and 1303 01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:01.479 another to this right and they were determined to have 1304 01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:05.439 died two days prior, so they died on New Year's Eve. 1305 01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:08.680 So the Pennsylvania State Police said that it was believed 1306 01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:11.439 that it was not a random act of violence. And 1307 01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:16.039 ten days after the bodies were discovered, the state troopers 1308 01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:19.159 in Pennsylvania showed up at the Candlewooded Streets near the 1309 01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:22.039 Philadelphia Airport and they had a warrant to search the 1310 01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:25.399 room and car of Micheale Zenko, which is the daughter. 1311 01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:28.439 They knocked on her hotel room and took her into 1312 01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:32.039 custodies into custody. Sorry troopers were then looking for a 1313 01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:35.600 handgun believed to be involved. According to court testimony. The 1314 01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:39.560 state trooper Matthew Gibson testified in court that as they 1315 01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:42.319 were leading Michelle out of the hotel, she called out 1316 01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:44.479 to the hotel staff front at the front desk to 1317 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:47.960 tell to say to tell Daniel Blank that she had 1318 01:13:48.039 --> 01:13:53.680 been detained. The troopers knew that Blank before because they 1319 01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:57.159 had previously interviewed him in connection with the double homicide. 1320 01:13:57.479 --> 01:14:01.479 According to the court testimony went to Blank's room, who 1321 01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:03.680 was also staying at the same hotel, and banged on 1322 01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:07.039 the door. Blank answered, but refused to open the door. 1323 01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:12.720 Gibson testified that because this prompted troopers to return to 1324 01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:15.479 their barracks to seek a search warrant for Blank's room. 1325 01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:20.399 When the troopers returned to Blank's hotel room, they with 1326 01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:22.760 the search warrant and no one responded to the order 1327 01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:25.319 to open the door. Forced the door opened to find 1328 01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:28.640 Blank and a second person hiding in the bathroom. It 1329 01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:31.239 was then the troopers arrested Blank and a second person 1330 01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:35.159 who was identified as Lesoda, and according to the transcripts, 1331 01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:39.560 troopers issued commands to Lesoda, but he didn't do anything. 1332 01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:41.920 He had his eyes closed, he would not speak, and 1333 01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:45.079 he was just lain almost unconscious, as if he were 1334 01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:48.640 dead on the ground, legitly like he was acting like 1335 01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:52.279 he was dead on the ground. So Lysoda was ultimately 1336 01:14:52.399 --> 01:14:57.199 charged with obstructing investigations sorely conduct. According to the criminal complaint, 1337 01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:01.319 I think there's a lunk shot also showing that he 1338 01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:02.159 was playing dead. 1339 01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:05.239 And these were these were the folks that attacked that 1340 01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:05.840 old man. 1341 01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:11.039 One. Lysoda was there on site with the old man. 1342 01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:14.720 These others are not these are these are people that 1343 01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:17.199 were part of the cult, but they were not present 1344 01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:21.000 with with Lynn correct Nix. 1345 01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:24.119 It's kind of a small group of folks, right, this 1346 01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:25.239 Zizzy and Death cult. 1347 01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:27.640 Well, you had two kind of satellites. You have one 1348 01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:29.479 in California and then one on the East Coast. 1349 01:15:29.960 --> 01:15:32.239 The reason they were there for Mozelle Zenko is because 1350 01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:35.600 her father and mother are getting killed, and jack Lesoda 1351 01:15:35.680 --> 01:15:37.720 happened to be there as as well as I think 1352 01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:38.640 Daniel Blank. 1353 01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:45.560 Interesting stuff. I know it's hard to keep up with 1354 01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:47.760 all of them, but how many of them are still 1355 01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:48.439 out and about? 1356 01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:48.880 Do you know? 1357 01:15:49.479 --> 01:16:06.840 None they're they're arrested, okay, one one. 1358 01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:09.359 And there's probably some poor SAPs right now that are 1359 01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:14.840 whenever these things happen. It's it's interesting how many copycats 1360 01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:18.239 come in their place, And I think that is maybe 1361 01:16:18.399 --> 01:16:21.960 one of the issues with like sharing things like like 1362 01:16:22.039 --> 01:16:25.000 I don't know how much of this was documented or 1363 01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:31.319 if they had things like a uh, what's the word 1364 01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:34.239 that I'm looking for, like a manifesto or something like 1365 01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:36.880 that that young people could sit there and read and 1366 01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:39.600 kind of you know, get manipulated by. 1367 01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:43.000 Well I do wonder if that's what kind of Zizz's 1368 01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:44.840 blog was about. Do it makes sense? 1369 01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:49.239 Yeah, Yeah, she was definitely trying to push like her 1370 01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:52.000 thoughts on like how people should be in the human 1371 01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:52.840 minds and stuff. 1372 01:16:53.680 --> 01:17:00.800 Because no matter what this idea isn't isn't over, I 1373 01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.279 kind of under in a weird way. I kind of 1374 01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:07.199 understand where they're coming from. Uh, they are talking about 1375 01:17:07.239 --> 01:17:11.760 something that's very real. Uh, whether it's going to happen 1376 01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:16.880 the way they think it's going to there's another story altogether. 1377 01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:19.760 But Uh, I don't think that we have seen the last. 1378 01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:22.399 Maybe we've seen the last of the Zizians, But I 1379 01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:27.520 think we're going to see some different different folks talking 1380 01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:32.319 about the same thing as we're moving forward. Yes, maybe 1381 01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:36.279 slightly less gay, maybe slightly less vegan, who knows, But. 1382 01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:41.600 Uh that we'll get into, Uh, we'll get into. Michelle 1383 01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:49.159 Zenko Zacho whatever. She was a bio inform informatician bio 1384 01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:52.840 in for me whatever in Pennsylvania. 1385 01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:53.359 Uh. 1386 01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:57.119 She was a research intern at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. 1387 01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:01.199 She analyzed blood samples and psychological data to determine how 1388 01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:07.399 predictive m r na's are of neurobehavioral susceptibility and sleep 1389 01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:14.239 deprived individuals on the NASA Human Research Analog environment. So 1390 01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:16.880 to find that interesting that you know another NASA connect 1391 01:18:19.239 --> 01:18:24.239 Also Yeah, Bioinformatics intern and NASA Aims Research Center in 1392 01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:31.760 twenty eighteen developed in troubleshooted bioinformatics pipelines using high throughput 1393 01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:36.640 biological data and analysis tools, processing raw data and normalizing 1394 01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:41.399 associated metadata for the purpose of understanding spaceflight stresses on 1395 01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:46.960 biological systems. They also went to Temple University Cabrini University 1396 01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:53.119 activities in societies they're involved in led Strong, the High 1397 01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:59.159 Impact Network, which is THINK in Fair Trade activities, the 1398 01:18:59.239 --> 01:19:02.840 Honors program through on the Dean's List twenty twelve and 1399 01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:05.720 president and founder of the Cabrini Chapter of the High 1400 01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:11.760 Impact Network Think Again and ran fundraisers for Against Malaria Foundation, 1401 01:19:13.399 --> 01:19:17.359 a member of Lead Strong and Fair Trade Real Quick 1402 01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:20.880 A little bit just about Think Think the High Impact 1403 01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:24.520 Network as the goals of THINK are to want to 1404 01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:28.000 encourage people to think strategically at about the best ways 1405 01:19:28.359 --> 01:19:31.760 to improve the world, and two to help people interested 1406 01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:36.760 in strategic altruism to organize and take effective action. We 1407 01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:39.560 aim to do this primarily through the development and maintenance 1408 01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:43.359 of a network of college student groups. The student groups 1409 01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:45.960 would focus on helping people to make decisions that benefit 1410 01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:49.359 the world the most when choosing a career, choosing how 1411 01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:54.119 to donate, and choosing what to research and so on, and. 1412 01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:58.199 What an effective altruism. I have not heard a single 1413 01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:00.279 good thing that have been and that is ever come 1414 01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:00.760 out of it. 1415 01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:02.600 And one thing I do like when I add again, 1416 01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:04.359 like that is something I have it here on the 1417 01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:06.720 notes just to make sure I mentioned it again. Sam 1418 01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:08.760 Bakmon Freed is the one who was associated with that 1419 01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:10.880 old phrase kind of or starring it back up, bringing 1420 01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:11.840 back to life. 1421 01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:15.439 That was his excuse for like, yeah, I'm ripping you 1422 01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:18.079 guys to often steal it all your money, but I'm 1423 01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:21.199 doing this for the greater goods, so fuck you like it. 1424 01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:25.359 It's basically his entire fucking attitude. Uh yeah, Sam Bakmon 1425 01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:28.439 Freed is a piece of shit, And I haven't maybe 1426 01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:32.199 maybe I'm too dumb to understand affective altruism. Uh, but 1427 01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:34.399 you know what, I have seen a lot of great 1428 01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:38.640 things people want to look up, like micro philanthropy, where 1429 01:20:39.279 --> 01:20:42.680 like there's some folks that do this where they're like, Hey, 1430 01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:47.960 here's a family in Africa and all they need is 1431 01:20:48.079 --> 01:20:51.840 like two hundred dollars in American money. They're going to 1432 01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:54.159 fix their roof and it's going to do this like 1433 01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:56.199 and then you can see it happen in real life. 1434 01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:59.079 They make a video the next day, like they build 1435 01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:03.079 the fucking the dude's roof. Like, micro philanthropy, to me, 1436 01:21:03.239 --> 01:21:06.039 is where it's at. Like whenever I give money away, 1437 01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:09.079 I'm not giving it to the Red Cloth, to the 1438 01:21:09.079 --> 01:21:12.279 Red Cross, those child molesters, I'm not giving it. Am 1439 01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:16.199 I giving it to any in those places? Micro philanthropy 1440 01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:20.720 is where it's at. Dude. Yeah, no, this effective altruism 1441 01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:25.520 is completely crap, dude. And I almost feel bad for 1442 01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:29.520 some of these Zizians, like as you're describing them, like 1443 01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:31.640 thinking that they were going to change the world, thinking 1444 01:21:31.680 --> 01:21:33.279 they were going to do some good and then like 1445 01:21:33.359 --> 01:21:36.800 going to work for Google and realizing, oh wait, Google 1446 01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:40.800 is this like multinational fucking corporation that is actually like 1447 01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:44.479 eating people alive and using people's data to enslave them. 1448 01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:47.399 And they feel guilty about it and they're like, actually 1449 01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:51.199 Google's evil. Uh huh, Google is evil? Like these people 1450 01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:56.319 were so like I think that's why I feel for 1451 01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:59.159 some of these Zizians is because they were true believers, 1452 01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:02.439 you know what I mean, they really believed what they 1453 01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:05.920 were doing was good. Obviously, were they flowed, were they 1454 01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:09.560 a little special? Were they fucking taken advantage of? And uh, 1455 01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:12.319 you know it's kind of sad, dude, I kind of 1456 01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:14.359 I kind of feel bad for these folks. 1457 01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:19.439 I don't know, I get it definitely being exploded. 1458 01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:21.760 Real quick too. 1459 01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:26.319 I just want to mention, uh, the against Malaria that's 1460 01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:29.239 even like a candidate's in Canada and Germany and party 1461 01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:32.199 a part of GiveWell and the owner is Rob Mather, 1462 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:36.399 And I mean basically they go and supposedly their their 1463 01:22:36.439 --> 01:22:39.159 partners with the International Red Cross and they go and 1464 01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:41.600 you know, put out in nets to help people not 1465 01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:42.359 get malaria. 1466 01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:46.960 Daniel Arthur Blank, he was another one in here. 1467 01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:51.239 Daniel Blank was born in Berkeley, California and always excelled 1468 01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:52.680 in school, earning straight a's. 1469 01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:57.479 One thing that should also be mentioned is that a 1470 01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:00.800 lot of these people that were attending CFA are and 1471 01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:03.319 then some of the Zizzy and people, they were donating 1472 01:23:03.319 --> 01:23:06.479 a lot of money to this against Malaria almost like 1473 01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:10.880 and they were donating it before this whole Zizien situation happened. 1474 01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:14.399 So you almost wonder if there is somewhere that is 1475 01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:18.880 pushing for these organizations to be donated too. And so, 1476 01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.880 like Nick said, if Sam Bagman Freed is you know, 1477 01:23:22.039 --> 01:23:26.239 pushing the malaria thing. And you're getting these tech people 1478 01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:28.439 who are making a whole bunch of money because they're 1479 01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:31.199 in the tech industry, that's where they get their money, 1480 01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:34.319 and they're convincing these students or these these young people 1481 01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:38.319 to donate their money to these organizations. And two of them, 1482 01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:42.600 at least from the Zizzians, were donating money to against malaria. 1483 01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:44.840 So just thought I'd insert. 1484 01:23:44.520 --> 01:23:48.960 That thank you. Yeah. 1485 01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:51.359 David Blake was born in Berkeley, California, and always excelled 1486 01:23:51.399 --> 01:23:54.000 in school, learning straight a's and praise from his teachers. 1487 01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:55.760 His mother, Naddia. 1488 01:23:55.399 --> 01:23:59.640 Blank, told Open Vallejo he competed on Science Bowl team 1489 01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:02.920 throughout middle and high school and was fluent in three languages. 1490 01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:06.680 She said, Blank, who became a vegan in college, graduated 1491 01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:10.920 a semester early from the University of California, Berkeley with 1492 01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:15.000 a double major in bioengineering and computer science, according to 1493 01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:19.720 a resume posted on his LinkedIn profile, and as an undergraduate, 1494 01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:22.960 he conducted research for two Berkeley professors in an interned 1495 01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:28.039 at Oracle and Daphnel Lambs. Blank's mother said he accepted 1496 01:24:28.039 --> 01:24:32.199 a high paying corporate offer in Oakland following graduation. Daniel 1497 01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:35.239 Blank's parents told Open Vallejo in an interview Monday that 1498 01:24:35.279 --> 01:24:37.479 they believed their son's involvement with the group may be 1499 01:24:37.600 --> 01:24:41.439 a result of brainwashing. He is not a violent person, 1500 01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:45.399 said his father, Alexander Blank. I don't think that Daniel 1501 01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:48.560 actually did anything really wrong, except maybe being with the 1502 01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:53.880 wrong people. Public records show he's never listed Sacramento as 1503 01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:57.720 a home address. Maryland court record show the home address 1504 01:24:57.720 --> 01:25:00.239 he gave authorities after he was taken into cust the 1505 01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:04.520 Sunday is actually a private mailbox station on Rockingham Drive 1506 01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:09.000 in Rancho Cordova. The representative for the firm told that 1507 01:25:09.079 --> 01:25:11.920 the told the Sacramento be on Thursday that Blank had 1508 01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:17.199 rented a virtual mailbox for three months last year, never 1509 01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:20.720 having stepped foot in the business. He did everything online, 1510 01:25:20.760 --> 01:25:23.680 said the representative. Blank had rented the box to have 1511 01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:26.840 mail received at a physical location and sent to him 1512 01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:32.840 electronically and some I can't find exactly how I get 1513 01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:35.439 a little confused. But in Maryland in twenty twenty two, 1514 01:25:36.039 --> 01:25:38.119 supposedly faked his death, and I think that was just 1515 01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:39.680 by him kind of like just disappearing. 1516 01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:45.359 Then yeah, claimed. 1517 01:25:47.399 --> 01:25:48.199 Go ahead. Sorry. 1518 01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:51.600 So in June of twenty twenty three, Lesoda is released 1519 01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:55.279 from custody after posting for a ten thousand dollars bail. 1520 01:25:56.199 --> 01:25:58.520 He failed to return to court and the judge then 1521 01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:02.279 issued a bench warrant. Friedman said, which was the attorney 1522 01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:04.960 said that he hadn't heard from Leisota since twenty twenty 1523 01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:09.159 two and had no idea where he was. And Friedman 1524 01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:11.760 had said, I represent vegans. We believe in non violence 1525 01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:14.960 kind of in this whole like mantra type deal. Both 1526 01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:18.479 Blanken Zenko had not been charged in connection with the 1527 01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:21.960 double homicide at this point, even though they had been, 1528 01:26:22.279 --> 01:26:26.720 you know, done all that in the situation in the hotel. 1529 01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:31.600 So wanted to kind of get into Felix Ophelia Buckholt. 1530 01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:34.640 So in July of twenty twenty three, Felix Buckholt, to 1531 01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:36.159 kind of give you a little bit of background on 1532 01:26:36.199 --> 01:26:41.000 her refer she begins renting half a duplex in Chapel Hill, 1533 01:26:41.079 --> 01:26:46.319 North Carolina, Buckholt, who is now dead. She was the 1534 01:26:46.359 --> 01:26:50.239 one that had the work visa from Germany and went 1535 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:53.079 on to University of Waterloo. And one of the things 1536 01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:58.960 with University of Waterloo, this university has a high amount 1537 01:26:59.039 --> 01:27:04.000 of students who excel or considered geniuses in computer information 1538 01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:07.319 systems to go to the University of Waterloo, and the 1539 01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:10.880 University of Waterloo is where a large pool of students 1540 01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:14.000 will be pulled from Peter Thiel to basically leave the 1541 01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:16.239 university and go work for somewhere else and they will 1542 01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:18.720 give them large sums of money. And then a lot 1543 01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:21.479 of students from the University of Waterloo are kind of 1544 01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:26.760 known for contributing a lot of I guess technological investments 1545 01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:29.199 in software AI and stuff like that. So it's a 1546 01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:32.960 big deal. University award was a big big university for that. 1547 01:27:33.800 --> 01:27:36.960 Ophelia grew up in Germany where he was in mathematics, 1548 01:27:37.039 --> 01:27:40.479 was kid winning awards and accolades and scholarships both in 1549 01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:43.800 math and computer science at the national level. The university 1550 01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:47.119 media release from twenty nineteen said that Buckholt was a 1551 01:27:47.159 --> 01:27:49.680 member of the school's team that competed at the William 1552 01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:56.319 Lowell Pootnam mathematical competition annual contest for universities in Canada 1553 01:27:56.359 --> 01:27:59.159 and the United States, and it's one it's considered one 1554 01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:02.359 of the most world prestigious math contests. So we have 1555 01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:06.119 this math whiz. They're German. They went to a high 1556 01:28:06.119 --> 01:28:11.119 school in Germany. They win a national mathematical competition, be 1557 01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:15.840 and our champions, and then you go on to win 1558 01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:20.600 more medals internationally. And they attend the high school that's 1559 01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:24.680 considered the most prestigious in the world and wins a 1560 01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:30.399 coding contest coding like computer coding. So Buckholt's LinkedIn entry 1561 01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:34.079 said that he studied pure mathematics, and online records show 1562 01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:37.079 that he was involved in the university's computer science club 1563 01:28:37.199 --> 01:28:41.439 as an executive member, although fellow executive members of the 1564 01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:44.000 club at the time said Buckhold was not well known 1565 01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:48.640 for not well known there, others did know that he 1566 01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:51.960 was there. And so one of the things that sticks 1567 01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.560 out of Ophelia Felix is that they earned a scholarship 1568 01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:58.439 for pure mathematics to the University of Waterloo, which I 1569 01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:01.000 believe they say is kind of hard. And the friends 1570 01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:04.840 considered her passionate, a passionate math student and was fun 1571 01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:08.920 and positive and was an active member of the science club, 1572 01:29:09.039 --> 01:29:13.319 the Computer Science Club, Pure Math, and that she was 1573 01:29:13.359 --> 01:29:17.039 considered one of those people that reads math textbooks for fun, right, 1574 01:29:17.199 --> 01:29:20.079 or they do math on chalkboard for fun. So in 1575 01:29:20.119 --> 01:29:23.880 twenty eighteen Facebook posts she had donated five thousand to 1576 01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:27.840 the Malaria Foundation. So this is where you know, we 1577 01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:31.439 see that malaria kind of coming in there. And then 1578 01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:34.239 she goes on to graduate in twenty nineteen. So after 1579 01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:41.199 this she interns an elite trading firm, and then after 1580 01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:43.720 that she graduates with honors. And then it's at this 1581 01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:47.119 point when she graduates that she has then transitioned to 1582 01:29:47.399 --> 01:29:51.039 female after college. So something happened after college is she 1583 01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:53.640 then transitions. 1584 01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:58.479 And according to the news outlets, Buckholtz, now deleted LinkedIn 1585 01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:03.159 profile says he in New York office of Tower Research Capital, 1586 01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:07.520 the high frequency trading firm. He joined Tower in October 1587 01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:11.399 of twenty twenty one, following two years at radex Trading. 1588 01:30:12.279 --> 01:30:14.039 His current job at the time of the shooting on 1589 01:30:14.079 --> 01:30:17.920 his profile was a quantitative trader at Tower Research Capital 1590 01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:22.279 in New York City. Calls and emails from national posts 1591 01:30:22.279 --> 01:30:25.359 to Tower asking for information about Buckholt and to confirm 1592 01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:29.239 his position have gone unanswered though, But that's what was 1593 01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:29.720 on there. 1594 01:30:31.079 --> 01:30:34.880 You know. It sounds shitty to say this, but and 1595 01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:37.680 I kind of alluded to this earlier. It's like people 1596 01:30:37.680 --> 01:30:42.239 that have two high IQs that they're just too smart 1597 01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:46.359 for their own good. There are folks that will sit 1598 01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:48.560 there because I have a few friends that are just 1599 01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:54.239 like this, that they will sit there and pontificate on 1600 01:30:54.399 --> 01:31:00.479 certain ideals and different ideas there aren't applicable in this world, uh, 1601 01:31:00.800 --> 01:31:04.039 that aren't realistic in our world that we're in right now. 1602 01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:10.640 At some point, it kind of it kind of takes 1603 01:31:10.680 --> 01:31:13.479 their entire lives, you know. They they sit there and 1604 01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:17.680 they spend time on questions that aren't ever going to 1605 01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:20.600 be answered and couldn't be in the first place, because 1606 01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:25.359 sometimes the questions are like they're not real, you know 1607 01:31:25.359 --> 01:31:28.239 what I mean. And these people it's kind of it's 1608 01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:32.840 kind of sad, like I'm sure we're uh Ophelia, where 1609 01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:37.720 Felix was a very bright person and if they had 1610 01:31:37.760 --> 01:31:41.279 been seared in the correct, you know direction, they could 1611 01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:45.439 have really helped humanity, and uh, they kind of get 1612 01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:50.720 stuck in this like rationalist circle jerk of like mental 1613 01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:53.439 gymnastics that doesn't do anything. 1614 01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:57.279 Yeah, I think this is a classic case of this, 1615 01:31:57.359 --> 01:32:00.239 because you know, she she's at the top of her game, 1616 01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:03.079 you know, in math, in computers. I mean, she's winning 1617 01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:06.000 all these accolades. She goes to university, she's on full ride. 1618 01:32:06.399 --> 01:32:09.319 I mean, now she's working at a New York City firm. 1619 01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:15.520 She's like leveraging mathematical like complex models for investment opportunities. 1620 01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:18.479 She's also making like half a million dollars a year. 1621 01:32:18.840 --> 01:32:21.159 So she's like just at the top of her game. 1622 01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:23.560 And then all of a sudden, like according to her 1623 01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:27.239 roommate says that it just like turns and she's now 1624 01:32:27.319 --> 01:32:31.079 always on the phone. She's always whisking off every other 1625 01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:34.880 weekend on the plane. Nobody knows where she's going, she's 1626 01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:38.760 heard from, or she's not even answering her text from 1627 01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:41.079 her friends anymore. So she had it seemed like she 1628 01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:44.119 had this friend base. But then they also mentioned that 1629 01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:47.560 her house was also prior to all this was a 1630 01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:54.640 place where other I guess gender to female had started 1631 01:32:54.640 --> 01:32:59.079 to I guess congregate, right, and so and then I 1632 01:32:59.119 --> 01:33:02.399 guess you have the you know, kind of breakaway, and 1633 01:33:02.479 --> 01:33:05.720 she is now all into the whole Zizian thing. And 1634 01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:10.439 I believe she was the actual benefactor. I think in 1635 01:33:10.479 --> 01:33:13.319 that if she's making that much money, you know, this 1636 01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:15.279 is where you know, people say, well, how did they move? 1637 01:33:15.399 --> 01:33:18.399 How did they acquire all of this stuff? You know, 1638 01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:22.800 you're talking about coding people. They probably you know, borderline hackers, 1639 01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:27.520 if not full on hackers. But you have Ophelia who's 1640 01:33:27.560 --> 01:33:30.000 making a lot of money. And I mean you don't 1641 01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.880 have to wonder where most of the money was coming from. 1642 01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:35.239 It was probably coming from her. She was probably the 1643 01:33:35.239 --> 01:33:37.960 benefactor itself. And you know she would just. 1644 01:33:37.960 --> 01:33:40.159 About a million dollars a year is a lot. 1645 01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:43.760 Yeah, yeah. And they said that she wasn't ever living 1646 01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:46.439 outside of her means either, so she had bank like 1647 01:33:46.520 --> 01:33:50.600 she wasn't spending it on really anything until she just 1648 01:33:50.720 --> 01:33:53.239 ends up taking a flight out of New York in 1649 01:33:53.279 --> 01:33:56.199 November of twenty twenty three, and she's ever heard from again. 1650 01:33:56.359 --> 01:34:00.279 She cuts off all contact with her friends and her 1651 01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:02.199 her family. 1652 01:34:03.239 --> 01:34:05.439 I mean, honestly, this is kind of sounding a lot 1653 01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:08.479 like who's the guy that went and shot the the 1654 01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:11.319 insurance ceo? Do you know what I'm talking about? 1655 01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:12.319 Yeah? 1656 01:34:12.359 --> 01:34:15.600 What's also a handsome little homo. What's his name? 1657 01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:18.000 Uh, I can't remember his name. 1658 01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:22.039 But like this sounds like it because his last his 1659 01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:26.119 last like six months to year, like all of his 1660 01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:29.079 friends saying like he just was on the phone all 1661 01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:32.640 the time, just kind of disappeared, wouldn't answer, uh any 1662 01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:38.079 friends or family, just kind of self isolated. Leonardo is 1663 01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:44.479 not Is that what his name is? Luigi Luigi? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1664 01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:52.760 that's it's really sad. Sorry, yeah, man, uh yeah, it's 1665 01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:58.319 honestly really tragic listening, uh listening to this stuff because 1666 01:34:58.640 --> 01:35:03.079 they did have, especially the last one we were just 1667 01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:07.159 talking about. Uh, they were set many they could have 1668 01:35:07.199 --> 01:35:14.359 had the best life ever Ophelia was or Felix. They 1669 01:35:14.399 --> 01:35:15.560 had everything going. 1670 01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:18.880 For you had the world by the balls, right, Yeah, 1671 01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:23.760 straight up. You know this is something I'm not saying 1672 01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:26.079 it came from that person, but you know I had 1673 01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:28.359 even wondered too, Like when you're still hearing about like 1674 01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:30.760 it's a bunch of these got a bunch of them 1675 01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:33.359 got out of prison when their ball got dropped out 1676 01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:37.439 to tank grand like even motherfuckers couldn't afford rant. 1677 01:35:37.439 --> 01:35:38.119 How'd you get out? 1678 01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:43.199 That was an interesting thing about side note that I 1679 01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:45.920 had heard about that that they had been living at 1680 01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:49.399 that folks, that that old man's property. What was that 1681 01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:50.279 North Carolina? 1682 01:35:51.159 --> 01:35:52.800 They California? 1683 01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:54.960 Where was that California, California. 1684 01:35:55.680 --> 01:35:59.600 Oh okay, okay, man. Anyways, I've had too much drink. 1685 01:36:01.159 --> 01:36:03.760 So they'd been living on that old man's property, right, 1686 01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:06.359 and that was like during and they had been paying 1687 01:36:06.399 --> 01:36:09.800 them and during the COVID times is when they they 1688 01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:12.680 got the opportunity to quit paying their rent and they 1689 01:36:12.760 --> 01:36:14.840 just wanted to keep going with that. And that's kind 1690 01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:22.319 of what caused that. Uh that kerfufflefle Yeah, that's funny. 1691 01:36:22.680 --> 01:36:24.880 That's a good that's a good way of putting it. 1692 01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:26.119 It's just a little kerfuffle. 1693 01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:31.720 Uh all right, Uh here we got Teresa Young Blutz. 1694 01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:32.800 Uh. 1695 01:36:33.239 --> 01:36:36.039 May twenty twenty four, Teresa Young Blutz parents re bought 1696 01:36:36.039 --> 01:36:38.840 her missing in Seattle after she sends her mother emails 1697 01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:42.039 saying she has moved in with a friend and changed 1698 01:36:42.079 --> 01:36:42.680 her number. 1699 01:36:43.399 --> 01:36:46.279 You know, I'm not pro tranny, but she does look 1700 01:36:46.319 --> 01:36:50.600 cuter as a girl. Maximilian Snyder was not a cute guy. 1701 01:36:51.199 --> 01:36:53.640 She looks cute with the pink air. Actually, here you go, 1702 01:36:54.359 --> 01:36:55.199 did you have max? 1703 01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:57.720 They almost look like they'd be the same person. 1704 01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:03.760 Uh yeah, yeah, Teresa Young Blut University off. 1705 01:37:03.880 --> 01:37:05.279 She went to University of Washington. 1706 01:37:05.560 --> 01:37:09.119 She attended the prestigious Lakeside School in North Seattle. 1707 01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:15.640 November, she prescedure schools always lots of money. This is 1708 01:37:16.119 --> 01:37:19.720 this is the connecting factors here. Always top of their class, 1709 01:37:19.880 --> 01:37:23.640 very high intellect. It's almost like a smart dog can 1710 01:37:23.680 --> 01:37:25.239 be trained better than a dumb one. 1711 01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:25.760 Uh. 1712 01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:29.640 They like these, They like these smart little fucking dummies 1713 01:37:30.439 --> 01:37:37.680 from affluent families that they can really manipulate. Yeah, always, always, always. 1714 01:37:37.960 --> 01:37:40.640 In uh November, she applied for a marriage license with 1715 01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:45.560 Maximilian Snyder. Maximilian Snyder, who is facing charging different people? 1716 01:37:46.560 --> 01:37:50.880 Yeah, before even when I joked, had even joked. And 1717 01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:52.039 so they do look like they. 1718 01:37:52.159 --> 01:37:55.439 A million in trance. I was like, man, Max looks 1719 01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:58.159 cute over there on the right. He's like, man, he's 1720 01:37:58.199 --> 01:37:58.800 doing it right. 1721 01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:03.800 So Resa is the ones in the center, the two 1722 01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:07.119 center photographs, the one with a mask and then the 1723 01:38:07.119 --> 01:38:08.119 one down here. 1724 01:38:09.239 --> 01:38:12.359 Maybe that's a blow up. I was like, Maximilian be 1725 01:38:12.439 --> 01:38:16.239 looking good. Actually he did the right thing off. 1726 01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:21.640 And I don't, I don't did have they transitioned? Nick? 1727 01:38:21.720 --> 01:38:23.640 Have you read anywhere that they've transitioned. 1728 01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:29.800 I think so, I don't know. Actually I couldn't tell 1729 01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:30.359 you honestly. 1730 01:38:31.720 --> 01:38:39.039 Oh all right, yeah, it's all right, uh yeah, oh yeah. 1731 01:38:39.159 --> 01:38:42.520 And Maximilia Snyder, who is facing charges of fatally stabbing 1732 01:38:42.520 --> 01:38:44.000 a man in northern California. 1733 01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:46.720 Notably, Snyder is also an alumni. 1734 01:38:46.479 --> 01:38:52.520 Of Lakeside School. November twenty twenty four, young Blood Maximilian 1735 01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:56.319 Snyder applied for a marriage license in Washington State. Also 1736 01:38:56.399 --> 01:38:59.640 this month, young Blood begins renting a condo near Buckholtz 1737 01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:03.880 in North Carolina. And again Maximian desided just mentioned a 1738 01:39:03.920 --> 01:39:05.800 little bit about his background. He was an alumni of 1739 01:39:05.880 --> 01:39:09.560 Lakeside School. Snyder went on to study philosophy and computer 1740 01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:13.000 science at the University of Oxford in the UK. According 1741 01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:17.239 to his Lincoln Page, he was in Stanford at twenty nineteen, 1742 01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:20.720 and more recently he lived in a condo in Kirkland, 1743 01:39:21.399 --> 01:39:24.920 northeast of Seattle that is owned by his mother. Both 1744 01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:27.920 Youngbud and Buckhole were renting separate units in the same 1745 01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:32.359 Chapel Hill, North Carolina neighborhood. The owner of the properties, 1746 01:39:32.359 --> 01:39:37.079 who requested anonymity due to safety concern noted that Buckholt 1747 01:39:37.079 --> 01:39:41.520 had been renting one unit via Airbnb since July of 1748 01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:45.279 twenty twenty three, before moving to a second unit later 1749 01:39:45.319 --> 01:39:49.239 that year. Young Holt began renting a Young Blood began 1750 01:39:49.319 --> 01:39:52.079 renting her unit in November twenty twenty four and paid 1751 01:39:52.199 --> 01:39:55.920 nearly ten grand to extend her stay until the end 1752 01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:56.359 of March. 1753 01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:03.279 All right, so young Blood and buckhol they check into 1754 01:40:03.359 --> 01:40:06.319 this hotel in Vermont on January fourteen. So this is 1755 01:40:06.359 --> 01:40:10.319 all culminating to know the Board of Patrol incident, and 1756 01:40:10.399 --> 01:40:13.880 so investigators put the pair under surveillance after a hotel 1757 01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:18.000 worker reports concerns about their old black tactical clothing and 1758 01:40:18.039 --> 01:40:20.279 the gun young Blood was carrying, and I believe that 1759 01:40:20.279 --> 01:40:22.800 she was carrying it on the outside of herself. In Vermont, 1760 01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:26.680 I believe does not have open carry laws. So in 1761 01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:33.199 January twenty twenty five, hotel employee basically calls reports them 1762 01:40:33.319 --> 01:40:36.760 to law enforcement. And this is like the Newport city 1763 01:40:36.880 --> 01:40:43.279 in Swedes. So they so you have Buckholt, who's a 1764 01:40:43.279 --> 01:40:47.000 German national, and thenteris the young Blood. Right, So buckhold 1765 01:40:47.039 --> 01:40:49.039 had been missing for a year. Remember she takes a plane, 1766 01:40:49.159 --> 01:40:51.840 she takes off, cuts off contact. So she's been missing 1767 01:40:51.840 --> 01:40:54.479 for a year and New York friends have basically stopped 1768 01:40:54.520 --> 01:40:58.760 trying to contact her. So in January seventeenth, lind the landlord, 1769 01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:02.399 so going back to California. On January seventeen, Lynn the 1770 01:41:02.479 --> 01:41:07.319 landlord in California is killed. Okay, Snyder is charged with murder, 1771 01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:10.159 and prosecutors allege that he was trying to prevent Linde 1772 01:41:10.239 --> 01:41:14.279 from testifying against them because remember he they had attacked him. 1773 01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:19.760 So Lynn's death occurs three days prior to the war 1774 01:41:19.880 --> 01:41:27.039 patrol shootout. And so then we have January twentieth, US 1775 01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:30.600 Border Patrol officers pull young Blood and Buckholt over on 1776 01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:36.159 the Interstate ninety one in Comentry, Vermont. Agent David Molland 1777 01:41:36.560 --> 01:41:39.800 and Buckholt are killed in a shootout. Young Blood, who 1778 01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:44.039 is wounded, is in charge with the firearms charge. So 1779 01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:48.840 it's not until January twentieth of this year when she's 1780 01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:52.880 when I guess she makes news and that she is 1781 01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:55.960 shot dead in a gun battle with the Border Patrol agents. 1782 01:41:57.439 --> 01:41:59.760 And so what basically they say happened is at the 1783 01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:03.000 age just pulled over Buckle's car and it was like 1784 01:42:03.079 --> 01:42:06.600 doing a routine traffic stop. But then there's other media outlets. 1785 01:42:06.760 --> 01:42:08.960 Nick correct me if I'm wrong. How they say it 1786 01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:10.760 was a routine traffic stock, but then it might have 1787 01:42:10.840 --> 01:42:15.119 been some sort of immigration check of sorts or whatever, 1788 01:42:16.520 --> 01:42:19.000 and that young Butld is in the back and pulls 1789 01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:22.119 a gun and opens fire on these agents. The agent's 1790 01:42:22.119 --> 01:42:24.800 fire back, but Hold pulls out another. 1791 01:42:26.439 --> 01:42:28.399 Pink hair was the one that busted out the gap. 1792 01:42:28.760 --> 01:42:31.760 Yeah, they said that, like it was almost like that 1793 01:42:31.960 --> 01:42:33.920 robotic is you know, because we're going back to AI, 1794 01:42:34.039 --> 01:42:36.199 but it was almost like almost like zero fox and 1795 01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:37.920 like knew what's knew what it was doing and like 1796 01:42:38.039 --> 01:42:38.680 just got out. 1797 01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:40.279 And just pulled out inside of blasting. 1798 01:42:41.479 --> 01:42:45.399 Soon some mk ultra mind control. That's what it sounds 1799 01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:45.800 like to me. 1800 01:42:46.239 --> 01:42:49.520 Because if you're thinking about these these kids in there constantly, 1801 01:42:49.720 --> 01:42:52.239 you know, in computers, you don't perceive them as going 1802 01:42:52.279 --> 01:42:55.520 to the shooting range and practicing, you know, you don't 1803 01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:59.239 consider them to be doing that. I wouldn't meet personally. 1804 01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:02.520 But the fact that some of the FBI, after David's 1805 01:43:02.560 --> 01:43:06.479 testimony says, like Nick had said that it was almost 1806 01:43:06.640 --> 01:43:08.880 you know, they knew exactly what they were doing, had 1807 01:43:09.039 --> 01:43:11.159 all kinds of confidence in doing what they were doing. 1808 01:43:11.680 --> 01:43:14.760 So buck hole Teresa on what had been under surveillance 1809 01:43:15.119 --> 01:43:17.800 for several days prior because of how they were dressed. 1810 01:43:17.840 --> 01:43:20.119 To me, why are you dressed like that? Why are 1811 01:43:20.159 --> 01:43:23.800 you putting your gun outs? Are you trying to, you know, 1812 01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:26.920 lure attention? Because I would think the whole premise is 1813 01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:29.319 to get away, to evade detection, right, so you can 1814 01:43:29.359 --> 01:43:32.000 continue doing what you're doing. But for some reason, you 1815 01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:35.279 show up in cosplay this whole thing. Yeah, you're gonna 1816 01:43:35.520 --> 01:43:36.439 have Well, that. 1817 01:43:36.479 --> 01:43:39.359 Also goes back to that like game theory right where 1818 01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:43.119 they say, like, hey, if somebody attacks you, you attack 1819 01:43:43.239 --> 01:43:48.319 them back with full force, like ready to fucking smite them. Yeah, 1820 01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:51.800 these people have like a victim complex. They're already kind 1821 01:43:51.800 --> 01:43:55.560 of have that kind of that headspace. There's probably like 1822 01:43:55.720 --> 01:43:59.000 a good amount of paranoia that's like feeding this like 1823 01:43:59.359 --> 01:44:03.800 bizarre behavior that they have. They probably think the government 1824 01:44:03.840 --> 01:44:05.600 is gunning for him when they don't even know who 1825 01:44:05.640 --> 01:44:09.880 these fucking freaks are, and so like that definitely aids 1826 01:44:09.920 --> 01:44:12.239 to like, yes, she should have chilled the fuck out 1827 01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:14.800 and not a fucking bull the gun out and shot somebody. 1828 01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:19.319 But they're they've lost it at this point, they're. 1829 01:44:19.119 --> 01:44:22.239 Fucking You bring up a good point it's game theory. 1830 01:44:22.720 --> 01:44:27.920 So are they pretending, are they modeling, are they simulating? 1831 01:44:28.119 --> 01:44:31.720 Are they testing the limits here? Is that what they're doing? 1832 01:44:32.439 --> 01:44:35.039 I mean, I don't know if they shut and killed 1833 01:44:35.039 --> 01:44:36.840 the board patrol agents, so I don't think they did 1834 01:44:36.880 --> 01:44:38.880 anything wrong in Minecraft. 1835 01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:49.840 So the guns that were found on them after shooting 1836 01:44:50.359 --> 01:44:54.840 was purchased by someone purporting to be a resident of Orleans, Vermont, 1837 01:44:55.199 --> 01:45:00.159 from a licensed firearm dealer in Mountainboor, Vermont, last February. 1838 01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:03.880 According to Pennsylvania State Police, the firearm used in the 1839 01:45:03.960 --> 01:45:07.039 Vermont incident was purchased by a person of interests in 1840 01:45:07.239 --> 01:45:11.199 December of twenty twenty two the murders of Richard and 1841 01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:14.560 rita's Anko Inchester Heights, Pennsylvania. So this is probably the 1842 01:45:14.640 --> 01:45:17.680 same same guns that are being used. Both young Blood 1843 01:45:17.720 --> 01:45:20.520 and the gun purchaser had been in regular contact with 1844 01:45:20.560 --> 01:45:24.399 an individual link to Pennsylvania investigation who is also considered 1845 01:45:24.399 --> 01:45:27.800 a person of interest in separate homicide case in California, 1846 01:45:27.880 --> 01:45:31.560 as detailed by US Attorney Michael Treasher in court documents, 1847 01:45:31.680 --> 01:45:34.640 and that person, the prosecution MOMO says, is a person 1848 01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:39.520 of interest in a dual homicide investigation in Delaware County, Pennsylvania, 1849 01:45:40.079 --> 01:45:45.880 so that person you know, all three different ones has 1850 01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:50.680 their name all over them. 1851 01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:55.039 Buckole flew into the United States and the hours preceding 1852 01:45:55.079 --> 01:45:58.600 that Pennsylvania homicide, both the defendant and the person who 1853 01:45:58.640 --> 01:46:01.800 purchased the firearms in or acquainted with and have been 1854 01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:05.640 in frequent contact with an individual who is detained by 1855 01:46:05.640 --> 01:46:11.079 the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania during that homicide investigation. That individual 1856 01:46:11.159 --> 01:46:13.600 is also a person of interest in a homicide investigation 1857 01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:19.520 of Aalo, California, the prosecutor's memo says. The government motion 1858 01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:23.119 says young Blood had traveled internationally in each of the 1859 01:46:23.159 --> 01:46:27.680 previous three years, although no information on which country or 1860 01:46:27.760 --> 01:46:32.079 country's has provided. The FBI also sees the journal that 1861 01:46:32.119 --> 01:46:36.319 allegedly belonged to young Blood. This is interesting. It contains 1862 01:46:36.359 --> 01:46:41.039 sections written in cipher text, which is encoded messages that 1863 01:46:41.119 --> 01:46:46.279 need an algorithmic key to encode to decode. Some portions 1864 01:46:46.279 --> 01:46:50.520 that agents can read include phrases suggesting that hoollucinogenic drug use, 1865 01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:55.840 prosecutors say, including coming up on acid in parentheses and 1866 01:46:55.880 --> 01:46:58.479 then in parentheses. Not really sure what to spend this 1867 01:46:58.640 --> 01:47:03.880 trip on. This LSD trip seems pretty mellow, and they 1868 01:47:04.000 --> 01:47:07.079 feel kind of high vibration y, maybe more so than 1869 01:47:07.159 --> 01:47:10.479 other LSD trips. So this is stuff that they, you know, 1870 01:47:10.680 --> 01:47:15.079 they could decode. The couple raised alarm when seeing when 1871 01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:19.640 scenes skulking around the small town Vermont, dressed in black 1872 01:47:19.680 --> 01:47:23.840 tactical gear. Young What was also wearing an exposed pistol 1873 01:47:23.840 --> 01:47:27.920 and a holster. According to an FBI criminal complaint, open 1874 01:47:27.960 --> 01:47:30.520 carrier of a firearm is legal in Vermont, but it 1875 01:47:30.600 --> 01:47:34.319 added to a concern in a hotel clerk in Londonville, Vermont, 1876 01:47:34.760 --> 01:47:38.520 the village forty five kilometers south of the shooting. Uh 1877 01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:42.760 police said the couple didn't talk much with officers who 1878 01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:44.760 came to speak to them, and they checked out of 1879 01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:48.880 the hotels soon after their contact with officers. According to 1880 01:47:48.920 --> 01:47:53.359 a criminal complaint by FBI special agent, the pair traveled 1881 01:47:53.399 --> 01:47:56.600 north and instead spent the night. In the next five 1882 01:47:56.680 --> 01:48:00.399 days in Newport, got records revealed that young Blood and 1883 01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:03.319 Buckled had been under surveillance for several days. 1884 01:48:03.119 --> 01:48:05.239 Leading up to the January twentieth shootout. 1885 01:48:06.279 --> 01:48:10.560 They sort Buckle by rolls of ammunition rolls of aluminum 1886 01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:13.680 foil at Walmart and then sit in the couple's car 1887 01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:18.560 wrapping unidentified items and foil sheets. The FBI later found 1888 01:48:18.640 --> 01:48:20.720 foil wrapped cell phones at the scene of the shooting. 1889 01:48:21.840 --> 01:48:24.840 Court documents say the FBI found guns and ammunition, as 1890 01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:27.760 well as an odd assortment of tactical and computing gear, 1891 01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:33.079 with the couple full fests, full face respirators, night vision goggles, 1892 01:48:33.119 --> 01:48:39.279 ballistic helmet, shooting range targets, several computer and electronic electronic devices, 1893 01:48:40.039 --> 01:48:42.800 and a journal. And they know again, like I had 1894 01:48:42.840 --> 01:48:45.359 mentioned today, I had found from like another news link 1895 01:48:45.359 --> 01:48:48.920 that came from somebody else's coverage on this that they 1896 01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:53.159 even said that they did find syringes and an ultrasam machine. 1897 01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:56.039 Uh, Aphelia. 1898 01:48:58.279 --> 01:48:58.960 Interesting. 1899 01:48:59.439 --> 01:49:02.000 Yeah, yeah. 1900 01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:05.840 You always do wonder with groups like this. You always 1901 01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:09.439 hear about, like, you know, the amount of ammunition that 1902 01:49:09.479 --> 01:49:11.680 they had and or weapons that they had, and you 1903 01:49:11.720 --> 01:49:13.960 always kind of wonder where the fuck did these freaks 1904 01:49:13.960 --> 01:49:14.239 get this? 1905 01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:17.640 You don't need baby, maybe I don't know. 1906 01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:25.760 Yeah, okay, Etsy, Uh yeah, Aphilia Ophelia Buckle. While the 1907 01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:29.600 FBI said has work visa was current, earlier reports suggest 1908 01:49:29.680 --> 01:49:33.399 that I had expired in emotion, seeking to have young 1909 01:49:33.439 --> 01:49:38.239 blood detained prior to trial. US attorney Michael Dresher alleged 1910 01:49:38.279 --> 01:49:41.079 that she and Buckle might be linked to other people 1911 01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:47.039 suspected and violent acts. February twenty twenty five, the FBI 1912 01:49:47.079 --> 01:49:49.960 searches the Chapel Hill property where a landlord says young Blood, 1913 01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:55.119 Buckled and Lesda have been living earlier this winter. February sixteenth, 1914 01:49:55.199 --> 01:49:59.039 or twenty twenty five, Lsda, Jacko, and Blank were arrested 1915 01:49:59.079 --> 01:50:05.760 in Frostburg, Marlin on Sunday afternoon. The blogger Jackalosodith of Berkeley, California, 1916 01:50:05.760 --> 01:50:09.920 along with Michelle Zacho of Media Pennsylvania, and Daniel Blank 1917 01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:15.399 of Sacramento, California, face charges including trespassing, obstructing and hindering, 1918 01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:19.319 and possessions a possession of a handgun in a vehicle. 1919 01:50:20.479 --> 01:50:22.359 At the time of their arrest, they were dressed in 1920 01:50:22.439 --> 01:50:26.760 black and two war gun belts holding ammunition. According to police, 1921 01:50:27.319 --> 01:50:29.920 a rifle was found in the back of one truck 1922 01:50:30.319 --> 01:50:34.079 and a handgun on the front floorboard. Zacho, who refused 1923 01:50:34.119 --> 01:50:37.520 to put her hands behind her back, was taken up 1924 01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:41.199 to the ground. She was also carrying a handgun. A 1925 01:50:41.239 --> 01:50:46.560 Maryland court. Maryland court has ordered a blogger known as Ziz, 1926 01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:48.840 who leads as a coult Life group connected to six 1927 01:50:48.960 --> 01:50:53.520 killings to be held without bail. Teresa Youngblood has has 1928 01:50:53.520 --> 01:50:58.000 pleaded not guilty to federal firearm charges, and the Zizz's lawyer, 1929 01:50:58.159 --> 01:51:04.079 Daniel mc garrigle, whoever, declined to comment. Attempts to reach 1930 01:51:04.199 --> 01:51:09.439 lawyers for Zacho and Blank we're not successful. And that 1931 01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:10.399 is really about it. 1932 01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:13.960 That is it. 1933 01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:15.760 There you go, there's like a little map to to 1934 01:51:15.760 --> 01:51:16.800 give you a little bit of the idea of the 1935 01:51:16.840 --> 01:51:17.560 people got killed. 1936 01:51:17.720 --> 01:51:19.760 Jack Milisoda right there. 1937 01:51:21.079 --> 01:51:26.000 Is himself, Boyhanian killed in self defense that he got 1938 01:51:26.039 --> 01:51:29.600 to hear again. Aphelia, it's a shame that of question, 1939 01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:33.000 the one that the cash cow, the one that got killed. 1940 01:51:37.319 --> 01:51:40.680 Interesting, man, where where do you think it comes? Where 1941 01:51:40.680 --> 01:51:43.720 do you think it goes from here? I like to 1942 01:51:43.760 --> 01:51:47.840 think about the overall idea too. I mean, because like 1943 01:51:47.880 --> 01:51:50.720 I said before, like they may have knocked down this, 1944 01:51:51.039 --> 01:51:54.880 but I think we're going to see more, folks. 1945 01:51:56.920 --> 01:52:00.239 Yeah, I think if you I was just well, one 1946 01:52:00.239 --> 01:52:03.079 thing that I found interesting with this case, I mean, 1947 01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:05.640 fucking you're just weird connections with like NASA and some 1948 01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:06.199 of the stuff that. 1949 01:52:06.199 --> 01:52:06.720 They were into. 1950 01:52:06.800 --> 01:52:10.800 But uh, the last two years, I mean listen, I'm 1951 01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:12.840 not like it is what it is. There has been 1952 01:52:12.840 --> 01:52:14.680 a lot of people of this identity that I've been 1953 01:52:14.720 --> 01:52:16.279 doing some weird crimes. 1954 01:52:16.119 --> 01:52:19.760 Or s right, dude, Like back in the day, there 1955 01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:22.760 was like a meme where there was a meme where 1956 01:52:22.760 --> 01:52:25.720 they'd be like, uh, hey, there was a mass shooting 1957 01:52:26.079 --> 01:52:28.880 and then there'd be a picture of Betty White and 1958 01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:31.560 you're like, Betty's white, right, that's like the it's like 1959 01:52:31.640 --> 01:52:34.560 the joke because there was always some little, you know, 1960 01:52:34.760 --> 01:52:37.000 in cell, little white kid that was shooting people, doing 1961 01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:39.840 the mass shootings whatever it was. But now it's like 1962 01:52:39.960 --> 01:52:43.520 better Betty's trance Like that is kind of the meme 1963 01:52:43.800 --> 01:52:47.760 at this point where I guess it still is a 1964 01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:49.720 straight white guy. Well I don't know that's straight, but 1965 01:52:49.760 --> 01:52:52.760 it is. It's still a little white kid. Uh that's 1966 01:52:52.880 --> 01:52:57.680 been manipulated. Yeah, there's a lot of well sometimes it's 1967 01:52:57.760 --> 01:53:01.960 ladies too. It's some there's a been a few of those, right. 1968 01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:03.920 They get them on tea and get them all agro 1969 01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:07.319 and then they give them a gun and they go 1970 01:53:07.479 --> 01:53:09.279 kill little Christian kids. 1971 01:53:11.239 --> 01:53:13.279 No, I definitely think we might see more of this stuff. 1972 01:53:13.760 --> 01:53:17.439 My opinion, I you know, not to get due conspiratorial, 1973 01:53:17.479 --> 01:53:19.199 But I do think there might be a possibility with 1974 01:53:19.319 --> 01:53:22.840 just like targeting these individuals and they might actually be 1975 01:53:22.920 --> 01:53:25.600 kind of like being turned into assassins. 1976 01:53:26.319 --> 01:53:27.479 I do wonder about. 1977 01:53:27.199 --> 01:53:30.479 That, especially the people that are especially just like some 1978 01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:32.399 of the places that they go back to and the 1979 01:53:32.439 --> 01:53:34.880 people that are involved with those companies. 1980 01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:35.319 It's just. 1981 01:53:37.079 --> 01:53:40.000 A lot of times it feels like these are experiments 1982 01:53:40.039 --> 01:53:42.840 where they're like trying out new shit and they're they 1983 01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:45.680 kind of I mean to me, almost all the serial 1984 01:53:45.760 --> 01:53:49.000 killers too, especially like in the sixties, seventies, eighties, all 1985 01:53:49.079 --> 01:53:51.560 those people there that was an extension of the mk 1986 01:53:51.720 --> 01:53:54.640 Ultra program and kind of screwing with people's heads and 1987 01:53:54.720 --> 01:53:57.640 kind of seeing what would happen, just kind of allowing 1988 01:53:57.680 --> 01:53:59.720 things to happen, and when they would get caught, they 1989 01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:01.600 would like, I mean, that's always for me, is like 1990 01:54:01.680 --> 01:54:04.119 Charles Manson, how many times he was like he was 1991 01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:07.560 on like parole and he'd be like caught with drugs 1992 01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:10.000 and underage girls and they'd be like, oh, you're fine, dude, 1993 01:54:10.039 --> 01:54:15.119 go ahead. It is interesting, dude. Uh. But like the 1994 01:54:15.199 --> 01:54:20.239 overarching like like psyop in all of this is about 1995 01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:23.000 the AI, Like how much of this do you think 1996 01:54:23.119 --> 01:54:25.880 is real. How much credience do you give this? 1997 01:54:28.119 --> 01:54:28.680 That's another thing. 1998 01:54:28.840 --> 01:54:34.359 So you want to take that, Lisa, Yeah, I think 1999 01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:39.760 yes to your question. I think that this is somewhat well. 2000 01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:41.760 I mean, you know, it could be a show trial. 2001 01:54:41.960 --> 01:54:45.239 It could be a show type incident to where all 2002 01:54:45.319 --> 01:54:49.560 of the attention is being directed to or misguided into 2003 01:54:49.640 --> 01:54:52.840 a totally different situation. But when you look at the 2004 01:54:52.880 --> 01:54:55.479 people who are funding these think tanks, and you're looking 2005 01:54:55.560 --> 01:54:58.680 at who basically funded some of these scholarships to these 2006 01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:03.399 major universities, you're looking at people who now have high 2007 01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:07.560 ranking government contracts into law enforcement and predictive programming and 2008 01:55:07.640 --> 01:55:13.199 predictive minority report to where you're looking now at surveillance. 2009 01:55:13.239 --> 01:55:16.720 You're looking at now data collection on DNA and other 2010 01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:21.600 type of medical type of information so to speak. And 2011 01:55:22.039 --> 01:55:24.640 you look at that and you're like, Okay, well, you know, 2012 01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:27.800 how are they going to be in a position to 2013 01:55:27.920 --> 01:55:31.600 make the most informed decision when they own all of 2014 01:55:31.960 --> 01:55:34.720 not they own, but they possess most of the government 2015 01:55:34.760 --> 01:55:40.880 contracts that infiltrate every aspect into our lives as citizens, right, 2016 01:55:41.279 --> 01:55:43.800 And so you look at what they are saying, I mean, 2017 01:55:44.079 --> 01:55:46.960 it's not too far from you know, what we're all 2018 01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:50.920 concerned with, the only thing is that they're draped in 2019 01:55:51.560 --> 01:55:55.279 the cloth that we all oppose, right, well, that we 2020 01:55:55.319 --> 01:55:59.560 all oppose, but the veganism or the non binary or 2021 01:56:00.079 --> 01:56:02.600 you know, these kind of verradical beliefs, so that we 2022 01:56:02.680 --> 01:56:06.279 don't adhere to them because on the surface, we're already 2023 01:56:06.399 --> 01:56:09.439 hands away because we don't agree with the exterior part 2024 01:56:09.479 --> 01:56:11.600 of it. But what they are saying, I think we 2025 01:56:11.760 --> 01:56:14.840 all kind of agree on in that AI is going 2026 01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:17.960 to infiltrate every aspect of our life, and that the 2027 01:56:18.520 --> 01:56:21.520 rules and regulations are being made only by a point 2028 01:56:21.680 --> 01:56:25.359 zero one percent of the people and in making these 2029 01:56:25.399 --> 01:56:27.960 algorithms into AI. But that's that's my take. 2030 01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:30.720 Well, I said, I think you may have a fantastic 2031 01:56:30.800 --> 01:56:33.920 point with that, Like we're already going to be, like 2032 01:56:33.960 --> 01:56:35.680 the majority of the people are going to be opposed 2033 01:56:35.720 --> 01:56:38.720 against these people because oh did you hear their vegan 2034 01:56:38.760 --> 01:56:42.199 tranny weirdos and shut a fucking border patrol agent. Uh 2035 01:56:42.760 --> 01:56:46.159 you know what I mean, Like your boomer magga con 2036 01:56:47.279 --> 01:56:50.159 zionists grandfather is going to be like fucked tose trainings 2037 01:56:51.199 --> 01:56:55.359 without even like addressing the issue or with anything that 2038 01:56:55.399 --> 01:56:59.279 these people are like talking about. But also I mean, 2039 01:56:59.319 --> 01:57:02.399 these people are actually saying like, hey, let's give more 2040 01:57:02.439 --> 01:57:05.560 money to these ais because we're trying to bring about 2041 01:57:05.840 --> 01:57:09.840 the cosmic Christ. Uh So I actually am opposed these trainees, 2042 01:57:10.119 --> 01:57:13.720 but it is interesting and uh I don't I have 2043 01:57:13.840 --> 01:57:16.960 no fucking idea, dude. It's it's kind of bizarre. And 2044 01:57:17.039 --> 01:57:21.880 as far as it goes with uh them actually bringing 2045 01:57:21.920 --> 01:57:25.680 about some sort of entity, I think that like the 2046 01:57:25.880 --> 01:57:30.600 Christian uh metaphysical person myssed it Christian to me, uh 2047 01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:37.840 thinks that it's entirely possible and maybe inevitable. I don't 2048 01:57:37.880 --> 01:57:41.800 know that they are going to try to bring bring 2049 01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:46.920 about some sort of intelligence that we like, I don't know. 2050 01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:49.119 I don't know, Nick, how much how much credence do 2051 01:57:49.159 --> 01:57:51.840 you give to that? Because uh, I know you're not 2052 01:57:51.880 --> 01:57:54.000 a Christian guy. You have your own set of beliefs 2053 01:57:54.039 --> 01:57:56.399 and ideas and things. Uh what do you what do 2054 01:57:56.399 --> 01:58:01.800 you think about these like it disembodied uh spirits, old entities, demons? 2055 01:58:03.439 --> 01:58:06.199 I think you can Yeah. 2056 01:58:06.439 --> 01:58:09.439 No, I do think that that there's energetic things that 2057 01:58:09.439 --> 01:58:12.920 I think can affect you. I do think there's also 2058 01:58:13.880 --> 01:58:16.840 maybe being you know, due to things that were even 2059 01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:19.399 given the drugs and stuff like, I do wonder if 2060 01:58:19.439 --> 01:58:24.680 you can even be put into maybe in a better 2061 01:58:24.960 --> 01:58:27.680 state to be open up to things. I do think 2062 01:58:27.800 --> 01:58:31.359 being influenced from some sort of like I mean, I 2063 01:58:31.359 --> 01:58:35.680 don't like using demonic, but maybe a negative frequency or something. 2064 01:58:35.680 --> 01:58:38.199 I do think that's possible. And I do think I 2065 01:58:38.199 --> 01:58:40.600 do think occultism might even be used on these people, 2066 01:58:41.720 --> 01:58:42.720 Oh sure, or. 2067 01:58:42.880 --> 01:58:47.119 Fracturing in the beginning. What are your thoughts on maybe 2068 01:58:48.119 --> 01:58:52.479 occult to scrubs people's ideologies? What are your thoughts that 2069 01:58:52.479 --> 01:58:56.479 are that's manipulating these folks? Well, potentially. 2070 01:58:57.319 --> 01:58:59.239 If I think like an occultist is involved in the 2071 01:58:59.279 --> 01:59:01.239 situation like that, that's probably more of like the MK 2072 01:59:01.399 --> 01:59:03.640 ultra aspect. Like I do think there might be stuff 2073 01:59:03.680 --> 01:59:05.319 going on like that, So I do think you might 2074 01:59:05.359 --> 01:59:08.359 have actually occultist involved in them, because I do think, 2075 01:59:08.399 --> 01:59:12.439 like as weird as it sounds, like, having a magical effect, 2076 01:59:12.479 --> 01:59:15.199 I think is almost kind of like MK culture in 2077 01:59:15.239 --> 01:59:18.199 a sense, like if you fuck with magic. I do think, 2078 01:59:18.239 --> 01:59:21.640 like you see how you could start fucking with people's 2079 01:59:21.680 --> 01:59:24.520 minds if you push them into that experience. 2080 01:59:25.680 --> 01:59:28.960 I mean, I think you know, I've had some interesting 2081 01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:32.640 folks on the show, and we've had some fun conversations. 2082 01:59:32.680 --> 01:59:36.520 But as far as like just practical magic goes, to me, 2083 01:59:36.880 --> 01:59:40.880 magic is just a form of manipulation, like in a 2084 01:59:40.920 --> 01:59:45.279 weird way, like if I'm a magician, Oh, I guess 2085 01:59:45.359 --> 01:59:48.000 like a magician, or if I'm a pastor of like 2086 01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:50.960 a megachurch and I sit there and I kind of 2087 01:59:51.039 --> 01:59:54.680 manipulate the crowd and start working on their emotions. Even 2088 01:59:54.680 --> 01:59:57.720 if I'm a musician and I'm sitting there and I'm 2089 01:59:57.720 --> 02:00:01.039 playing different like frequency sounds and like like trying to 2090 02:00:01.119 --> 02:00:04.520 evoke emotion, trying to get people to feel a certain way. 2091 02:00:05.680 --> 02:00:09.159 All to me, that is actual magic. That that is 2092 02:00:09.239 --> 02:00:12.520 like the truest form of magic that practically that we 2093 02:00:12.560 --> 02:00:17.920 can see, feel, experience here. And so all of these people, 2094 02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:21.479 like to me, government governmental people controlling the mind, it 2095 02:00:21.840 --> 02:00:25.159 the mk ultra, like that was their way of trying 2096 02:00:25.199 --> 02:00:30.000 to manipulate and distort reality, getting these poor fucking retards 2097 02:00:30.039 --> 02:00:32.399 to think like, hey, maybe it's better not to eat meat. Hey, 2098 02:00:32.640 --> 02:00:34.520 you know what, it's better for the world if you 2099 02:00:34.600 --> 02:00:37.319 chop off your winger. Like, to me, all of that 2100 02:00:37.479 --> 02:00:40.560 is magic, All of that is magical rituals, All of 2101 02:00:40.560 --> 02:00:43.520 that is getting them to adhere to a new ideology. 2102 02:00:43.880 --> 02:00:46.119 And these people are just playing behind the scenes and 2103 02:00:46.159 --> 02:00:48.640 it's almost chaos magic, just trying to see what will 2104 02:00:48.680 --> 02:00:52.199 stick and what won't and kind of just like kind 2105 02:00:52.199 --> 02:00:57.479 of disrupting the population. I don't know, but do you 2106 02:00:57.520 --> 02:01:01.119 think that there is actual an ease that these people 2107 02:01:01.119 --> 02:01:01.800 are listening to? 2108 02:01:01.960 --> 02:01:03.159 Do you? Like? Uh? 2109 02:01:03.199 --> 02:01:05.159 Like to me, if I'm the most skitzo in my 2110 02:01:05.239 --> 02:01:08.640 fucking in my mind, like I think that our governments 2111 02:01:08.640 --> 02:01:12.399 have been manipulated by these entities that want to be here. 2112 02:01:12.479 --> 02:01:14.720 Like to me, this is the meat and potatoes earth, 2113 02:01:14.840 --> 02:01:18.359 this whatever realm we're in right now, this is like, uh, 2114 02:01:18.479 --> 02:01:20.720 this is where all the fucking steaks are, and they 2115 02:01:20.760 --> 02:01:23.039 want to be here, and maybe they can't exist here 2116 02:01:23.079 --> 02:01:26.760 without like a form that they can take, right, So 2117 02:01:26.880 --> 02:01:30.800 that's like the idea of taking control of I don't know, 2118 02:01:30.880 --> 02:01:32.960 like a computer or something like that that they can 2119 02:01:33.079 --> 02:01:37.960 like stay here. Uh are there? Like, do you truly 2120 02:01:38.000 --> 02:01:41.960 believe in actual entities? Have they been manipulating our entire 2121 02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:45.359 society this whole time? Are they fucking reptilians? Are they 2122 02:01:45.359 --> 02:01:49.479 fucking robots? You know? Like, are the angels demons? Like, 2123 02:01:49.840 --> 02:01:52.279 I'm curious on your thoughts and Eliza as well. 2124 02:01:53.439 --> 02:01:56.000 I do think it is quite possible that maybe. 2125 02:01:57.159 --> 02:01:59.680 Things from other times of places might get stuck into 2126 02:01:59.760 --> 02:02:05.079 human body here. Do you think that's possible? Yeah, and 2127 02:02:05.159 --> 02:02:07.800 it may not be the best for us at times, 2128 02:02:09.199 --> 02:02:11.279 you know, when that happens. You know, I think people 2129 02:02:11.319 --> 02:02:15.000 will take advantage of things that they know, you know, 2130 02:02:15.079 --> 02:02:17.600 especially if you're able to jump like that. I know 2131 02:02:17.640 --> 02:02:19.359 that may sound crazy, but I do think that's quite 2132 02:02:19.439 --> 02:02:22.359 possible that you can like actually choose to leave yourself 2133 02:02:22.359 --> 02:02:25.079 and go into a different body, you. 2134 02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:28.640 Know, possibly at different times, you know. 2135 02:02:28.840 --> 02:02:30.560 I mean there's things in magic where they do talk 2136 02:02:30.600 --> 02:02:33.359 about putting like things into people's bodies after they've soul 2137 02:02:33.439 --> 02:02:37.119 has left. Yeah, so it's like it's a fox, you know, 2138 02:02:37.319 --> 02:02:40.560 they call it a homoculous but that could also be 2139 02:02:40.600 --> 02:02:42.239 considered the brain or you know, if you look at 2140 02:02:42.279 --> 02:02:44.800 different ways it's used. You know, who knows what it's 2141 02:02:44.840 --> 02:02:49.199 being talked about, you know. So I do think that's possible. Yeah, 2142 02:02:49.199 --> 02:02:50.760 I mean, I do think there could be people here 2143 02:02:50.760 --> 02:02:53.239 that are, like I guess, technically possessed in a sense, 2144 02:02:54.199 --> 02:02:55.960 whether they're not not. 2145 02:02:56.079 --> 02:03:00.880 What you think they are, and some might be. I 2146 02:03:00.920 --> 02:03:02.199 still think Hillary Clinton, but. 2147 02:03:02.319 --> 02:03:04.039 I was gonna say sometimes I think Doo thinks they 2148 02:03:04.119 --> 02:03:05.640 might be a few presidents stuff fall into that. 2149 02:03:06.279 --> 02:03:11.720 Yeah yeah, Lisa, what are your thoughts on any of that? 2150 02:03:11.880 --> 02:03:13.960 Is that all to metaphysical. 2151 02:03:13.319 --> 02:03:17.479 And for you or no, not at all? I I 2152 02:03:17.600 --> 02:03:21.000 one agree with Nick. I think it is all possible, 2153 02:03:21.159 --> 02:03:24.880 and there are lots of instances where people will create 2154 02:03:24.960 --> 02:03:28.720 things in order to embody other things as well. But 2155 02:03:28.760 --> 02:03:32.319 I think also Fox Molder said it best when he 2156 02:03:32.399 --> 02:03:34.560 said the devil is just one man with a plan, 2157 02:03:34.960 --> 02:03:40.039 and real evil exists among men who conspire against the 2158 02:03:40.039 --> 02:03:44.920 rest of the American people for power and money. So 2159 02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:47.479 I think we also have to take that into consideration too. 2160 02:03:49.920 --> 02:03:55.159 Yeah. Yeah, I mean a lot of socialist retards will say, 2161 02:03:56.079 --> 02:03:58.600 you know, money is the root of all evil, but 2162 02:03:58.680 --> 02:04:03.319 it's pretty explicit. It's the love of money, and so 2163 02:04:03.479 --> 02:04:05.840 it's the obsession with money. Money is not the root 2164 02:04:05.880 --> 02:04:12.000 of all evil. It's greedy cunts. And we know who 2165 02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:13.159 those greedy cunts are. 2166 02:04:18.399 --> 02:04:23.720 Yeah, you're good, You're funny. This has been a blast, man, 2167 02:04:26.439 --> 02:04:28.079 I mean, believe it or not, there is other stuff 2168 02:04:28.079 --> 02:04:29.840 to go into it. It's just too much I mean 2169 02:04:29.840 --> 02:04:32.319 there's even like other people's names that we've come across 2170 02:04:32.359 --> 02:04:34.399 now they're associated with them that I would like to 2171 02:04:34.560 --> 02:04:36.399 look at, but so much. 2172 02:04:36.439 --> 02:04:39.920 I mean, that believed that took weeks and weeks, so I. 2173 02:04:39.840 --> 02:04:43.880 Believe it didn't know. You guys did a great job. 2174 02:04:45.279 --> 02:04:50.279 That was great man. Yeah, these these folks are I 2175 02:04:50.479 --> 02:04:54.439 still look at them with sympathy. I think these people 2176 02:04:54.479 --> 02:04:57.439 will manipulate it and just kind of it's hard to 2177 02:04:57.479 --> 02:04:59.640 you know, it's hard to feel sympathy for people that 2178 02:04:59.680 --> 02:05:03.079 have like acted violently and did some sick shit. But 2179 02:05:03.279 --> 02:05:06.640 like I do, honestly a lot of the trans community, 2180 02:05:06.720 --> 02:05:08.479 Like I like to make a lot of jokes, but 2181 02:05:08.840 --> 02:05:11.079 I actually have I feel for him. 2182 02:05:11.880 --> 02:05:16.159 I do think, yeah, to an extent, and I guess 2183 02:05:16.159 --> 02:05:17.600 I don't want to say all of them, but whatever. 2184 02:05:18.119 --> 02:05:19.720 To an extent, I think a lot of people who 2185 02:05:19.760 --> 02:05:22.800 take on these ideologies are just unfortunately MKT through like 2186 02:05:22.800 --> 02:05:26.279 some tavistac idea. Like if you've gotten to that extent, 2187 02:05:27.439 --> 02:05:30.159 something along with either the food, the TV, or the 2188 02:05:30.239 --> 02:05:32.399 drugs that have been handed to you has somehow gotten 2189 02:05:32.399 --> 02:05:35.640 you to accept that and think that's the atrazine. 2190 02:05:35.840 --> 02:05:38.880 Yeah, all the things in the water. It's all been 2191 02:05:38.920 --> 02:05:40.760 that's a. 2192 02:05:40.119 --> 02:05:43.760 Self calculated result through a whole bunch of things being 2193 02:05:43.800 --> 02:05:44.359 done to somebody. 2194 02:05:44.600 --> 02:05:48.560 I think, and always, always, always, in my mind, there 2195 02:05:48.680 --> 02:05:51.760 is a level of consent and people have to kind 2196 02:05:51.760 --> 02:05:55.119 of invite the vampire in, but you do kind of 2197 02:05:55.159 --> 02:05:57.039 have to feel sorry for him because they've kind of 2198 02:05:57.039 --> 02:05:58.880 been glammed by that vampire as well. 2199 02:06:00.680 --> 02:06:03.319 But also if we if we are trying, you know, 2200 02:06:03.359 --> 02:06:07.000 we've looked at history and how media manipulates history, where 2201 02:06:07.119 --> 02:06:11.399 media only selectively reports on things, we should also consider 2202 02:06:11.479 --> 02:06:15.239 that here in that media is potentially selecting what to 2203 02:06:15.479 --> 02:06:19.960 report with these groups, So there is also that as well. 2204 02:06:20.359 --> 02:06:22.359 Well, I mean, and that was like the biggest thing 2205 02:06:22.439 --> 02:06:26.000 with like social media is they actually encourage as much 2206 02:06:26.039 --> 02:06:29.000 as they say they're trying to like blast things out 2207 02:06:29.000 --> 02:06:33.560 in the ether, they really do encourage like echo chambers 2208 02:06:33.680 --> 02:06:35.880 very much. So they kind of want you in your 2209 02:06:35.920 --> 02:06:38.680 own weird little group. And then they kind of they've 2210 02:06:38.720 --> 02:06:43.159 actually admitted to like screwing with little kind of micro 2211 02:06:44.079 --> 02:06:49.000 cosms and little kind of little weird groups of folks. 2212 02:06:49.039 --> 02:06:56.079 Like there's like a group of bill Beg like Ranny Furries, right, 2213 02:06:56.239 --> 02:06:58.800 Like there's like a weird little micro community if these 2214 02:06:58.840 --> 02:07:03.439 little weird these you're the little furries, and the government 2215 02:07:03.520 --> 02:07:08.560 has was caught and admitted to like infiltrating these weird 2216 02:07:08.600 --> 02:07:12.399 little communities, and they wanted to see if they could 2217 02:07:12.439 --> 02:07:14.560 do it, and they did. They like the person that 2218 02:07:14.720 --> 02:07:17.439 started this weird little community, they convinced the rest of 2219 02:07:17.439 --> 02:07:20.479 the community that he was like a Nazi, and they 2220 02:07:20.479 --> 02:07:23.279 did this whole thing. They kind of like they absolutely 2221 02:07:23.359 --> 02:07:28.479 take these little tiny communities and they kind of they 2222 02:07:28.560 --> 02:07:31.920 manipulate them. They see what they could do as far 2223 02:07:32.000 --> 02:07:35.840 as like changing their ideology. They they take these communities 2224 02:07:35.840 --> 02:07:37.920 and they kind of usurp them in a weird way 2225 02:07:38.119 --> 02:07:40.640 and kind of co opt them. I mean, you can 2226 02:07:40.680 --> 02:07:43.720 see it in you can see it in the conspiracy community. 2227 02:07:44.199 --> 02:07:47.399 How many people how many people are grift or weirdos 2228 02:07:47.399 --> 02:07:49.560 that are you know, getting people to do all this 2229 02:07:49.680 --> 02:07:52.279 bizarre shit, Like you can see it left and right, 2230 02:07:52.479 --> 02:07:55.439 like in our own communities right now. Like how who 2231 02:07:55.479 --> 02:08:00.960 attacks conspiracy theorists harder than a conspiracy theorist? 2232 02:08:01.479 --> 02:08:03.800 The only thing worse actually, I think could be like 2233 02:08:03.880 --> 02:08:06.680 I don't know, you may not know this because you're 2234 02:08:06.680 --> 02:08:08.680 probably not into it too much, but like if you're 2235 02:08:08.720 --> 02:08:13.159 into like the YouTube true crime community. Those motherfuckers off 2236 02:08:13.199 --> 02:08:17.319 the hook, they yo, they came over into the conspiracy community, 2237 02:08:17.399 --> 02:08:19.439 they'd be like, oh my god, what the fuck is 2238 02:08:19.479 --> 02:08:22.319 wrong with like they think like I might be mouthy 2239 02:08:22.359 --> 02:08:24.880 on my opinion. These motherfuckers will shit all over anybody. 2240 02:08:24.920 --> 02:08:26.920 They don't give a flying fuck who you are. How 2241 02:08:26.920 --> 02:08:27.560 popular are you? 2242 02:08:28.960 --> 02:08:31.640 Yeah? They are crazy. That's like the wild wild West 2243 02:08:32.000 --> 02:08:33.000 YouTube true crime. 2244 02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:34.720 Man, it's a wild wild West out there if you 2245 02:08:34.720 --> 02:08:36.960 follow the motherfuckers that she gets at the taining. 2246 02:08:37.479 --> 02:08:38.039 It gets at. 2247 02:08:38.039 --> 02:08:40.720 Tating all white women, and they are all angry and 2248 02:08:40.720 --> 02:08:42.960 they want and they want you to know it. 2249 02:08:43.399 --> 02:08:45.600 The ones in the chat, for sure, You're totally right. 2250 02:08:48.880 --> 02:08:50.680 It's a bunch of angry Karens totally. 2251 02:08:53.560 --> 02:08:55.560 This has been a lot of fun, guys. Let's do 2252 02:08:55.680 --> 02:08:56.439 some plugs. 2253 02:08:57.039 --> 02:09:01.199 Yeah, uh yeah, they cult rejects Ville, ball on, Bitch 2254 02:09:01.439 --> 02:09:04.439 Rumble YouTube and all major podcasts. 2255 02:09:04.640 --> 02:09:05.319 Thank you very much. 2256 02:09:05.359 --> 02:09:06.119 What's your website? 2257 02:09:06.159 --> 02:09:12.680 Nick? Okay, call research inste dot org and everything next said, 2258 02:09:13.680 --> 02:09:15.720 thank you, I love it. 2259 02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:18.119 Uh, this is a lot of fun, guys. You guys 2260 02:09:18.119 --> 02:09:21.000 are the best. You guys are always welcome here. We 2261 02:09:21.039 --> 02:09:23.680 always have some fun as we talk, Nick, I think 2262 02:09:23.680 --> 02:09:26.359 you're coming on. We should, we should schedule it. You're 2263 02:09:26.359 --> 02:09:28.520 gonna do some like crazy uh. 2264 02:09:28.199 --> 02:09:30.720 Oh yeah, we're gonna go over with the rituals and stuff. 2265 02:09:30.760 --> 02:09:33.479 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, oh yeah yeah, totally forgot 2266 02:09:33.520 --> 02:09:34.840 about that, totally totally. 2267 02:09:34.920 --> 02:09:40.279 Yes, let's bring about that AI that they're talking about accidentally. 2268 02:09:40.359 --> 02:09:43.439 We're going to open the fuck up. No sex, no homo, 2269 02:09:43.640 --> 02:09:45.079 no Al Crowley. 2270 02:09:44.680 --> 02:09:48.600 But everybody. Yeah yeah, we'll all have our clothes on. 2271 02:09:50.279 --> 02:09:53.479 Hell yeah dude. All right, you guys are great. Thank 2272 02:09:53.479 --> 02:09:56.880 you guys so much. Yes, uh, everybody in the chat, 2273 02:09:56.920 --> 02:09:59.560 we appreciate you, guys. We love you guys. Uh, this 2274 02:09:59.600 --> 02:10:02.720 has been a lot of fun and uh yeah, let's 2275 02:10:03.000 --> 02:10:06.640 let's see it again. Nick, Eliza, you're amazing. You're one 2276 02:10:06.640 --> 02:10:09.079 of my favorites, so you're always welcome back as well. 2277 02:10:09.319 --> 02:10:09.640 Thank you. 2278 02:10:11.039 --> 02:10:13.560 All right, cheers, guys,