Speaker 1: What is up Fellasiko's I Am dan fa Valley coming
at you with an NBA podcast crossover, which means it's
featuring Mort Jensen of the NBA Podcast Fame, Duh, of
Yahoo Sports, Fame, of OnlyFans, celebrity notoriety, infamy, and also
of Forbes Fame. I can't believe I forgot about that one,
but really Only Fans is more important. We're taking a
break from single teams, single topic. Deek dives to do
something no one else has ever done. As More, it
was so kind enough to point out to me once again,
just like we went through restricted free agents the other day,
we're gonna talk about teams we were each limited to picking.
We're gonna pick three. We don't know who the other
team is picking, so we need other persons picking, so
they will need to be alternates. We're going to try
and identify teams that could These aren't necessarily predictions, tho
in some case they would, but teams that could surprise us,
and that could be as More, it was kind enough
to mind me before we hopped on good or bad surprise,
so disappointments. Pleasant surprise is unpleasant surprise. Ifoever you want
to frame it. That's what we're going to tackle back
and forth. We don't know what the other person's going
to come up with. It's going to be absolute insanity
as usual. But first and foremost one everyone poorn went
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flu or just some type of sickness? He sounds he's
ready to narrate pornos folks. Moort, how are you doing well?
Speaker 2: I'm not doing fantastic or I'm just going to be
completely honest with you outside of having my annual virus
or whatever the hell that I caught.
Speaker 1: Oh, annual, I thought you said something.
Speaker 3: No, that's for later, honey, don't worry. That's for later.
Speaker 2: But I do always appreciate that when I'm sick, I
have my sexy mort voice going so like, and I
will say, a couple of years ago, my wife was like,
could you just keep that just that around? Like, could
you just somehow turn that into a staple. I don't
want all the sickness, I don't want all the snot
coming out of you, but the voice I could get
used to that.
Speaker 1: So so she just wants you to basically lick public
toilet seats just to ensure that she doesn't want she
doesn't want the work.
Speaker 3: I do that every day regardless. Now that doesn't work,
so well, we will.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you being here so that you can power
through this, uh, this exercise. Do you have any notes
about how you approach this before we get started?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, look, obviously this is focusing on teams
and not players, but I decided to like give the
rosters a thorough look and try to what's the word,
not predict, but I tried to envision where things could
go wrong and where things could go really okay. And
and it's it's basically off that a lot of it
is shooting variants. I'm not gonna lie to you that
a lot of that came down to that.
Speaker 1: I So the thing that I struggle with furthest exercise
is I'm looking at it mostly from my perspective or
what I think might be a consensus perspective, rather than
what does this team think about itself? And I'll throw
out a team as an example here. I apologize if
it spoils one for you, But like the Pelicans, and
I don't mean to pile on clearly think that they're
going to be contending for something or going to be
good right away. Otherwise why do you go get Derek Queen.
I don't think they're going to be good right away,
and so when they invariably finish eleventh or twelfth or
thirteenth in the Western Conference, that's not going to surprise.
Speaker 2: Me, right right, And yeah, And that's the way I
looked at it as well. I mean not, I just
didn't lean into anything obvious. So if you wouldn't mind,
I'm actually gonna go to my first one. I actually
have the Bulls. That's a team that could be surprising
in a positive sense because while look, their process and
their roster construction philosophy is horrendous, I actually do like
a lot of the components that they do have on
the roster. I think Sack Collins has historically been pretty underrated.
I think Kevin Herder is someone who offers so much
volume three point shooting and a lot of like space
and gravity. If they hang on to Kobe White, he's
entering like his prime years, Like there's a chance he
could be an All star caliber player. If not, you know,
a short fire all star. I think with more minutes
for Jalen Smith, presumably that that's going to be a
good thing. They have Iod Assumer, who we talked about
matsas Buslas looked really good last year. There's a lot
of reason to believe he's going to take a step up.
Trey Jones is one of those players who kind of
flies under the radar. So again, I don't buy the
Balls as a team for the future in any sense
of the word. But I do think the parts that
they do have can come together on a level where
by the end of the season they might actually be
in that top six playoff hunt. Not saying they will,
and I think that's because again, everything can happen, but
it is the East, and a lot of teams are
basically just mailing it in this year. So I'm just
actually going to say the Bulls could be a surprise,
but through no shar fault or so to speak of
their own, they'll they'll just run ass backwards into it.
Speaker 1: I you know, because I was going to ask you
what does a surprise look like for them? Because they're
aiming for like that thirty seven to forty two win,
right sweet spot, and so what is the ceiling on
that type of a team like that would be that's
like you're thinking they could get to forty five or something.
Speaker 2: Yes see, I actually didn't look at it through like wins.
I looked at it through seeds.
Speaker 1: Well, they're the quintessential like mid team. So that's I
think that's why the wins come into play to where
it's like, oh, if you have you know, if you
have the Wizards winning let's say like twelve games, and
you think that they could win thirty, it's just like
you it's easier to talk about like a wider range
of that. But the Bulls, like they're the definition of midley.
Speaker 3: Well, they won forty nine games last year.
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if they had like forty two,
forty three, maybe even forty four. Again, it's it's not
gonna take them anywhere, ultimately speaking, because they still lack
that top tier guy. I'm not a big believer in
them being able to retain Kobe White past next season either. So,
but this could be the last gasp of this current
iteration of the Bulls because you also have Sat Collins
who goes into a contract year. I think Kevin Herder
is in a contract year as well. So I'm just
assuming a lot of these guys are going to step
up now. Of course, there's also Nikola Vuzovich. He's played
one game so far at EuroBasket where he looked really
good offensively and on the glass. Defensively, though, oh my god, Dan,
it looked horrendous. He was like two or three steps
slow on every possession. I could be a little concerned
that for him specifically, this might be you know, quote
unquote the decline year, especially defensively. But that's almost the
beauty of it, because if that means less vooge, it
presumably means more sac Collins, it means more Jalen Smith
two options. I would frankly prefer for the Bulls if
they play up tempo. So I just think they have
a lot of those safeguards in place. So it's interesting,
Like I don't necessarily think that I would be willing
to write this in Stone. I could just see a
scenario where what do you call the sun folder parts?
Speaker 3: Just make it up.
Speaker 1: There's and the only other thing I have to add
on them is I think what would make me reticent
to pick them is the other thing we almost have
to factor in is what if these teams I guess
because it's the Bulls. You don't have to factor this in,
But what if these teams decide to steer out or
steer in rather to a skid to where if the
Bulls are like, we're kind of too good, but we're
not good enough, or someone comes along with a Kobe
White offer with him at during free agency, do we
pounce on it? I guess because you picked the Bulls
though you're it's pretty safe to say they won't do that.
That's the thick about the bo So my pick is
going to be a team that I think has been
getting shit on a lot because they don't I think
people don't believe their roster makes sense, which to some
extent is fair. The Toronto Raptors, for me, they just
have a lot of guys. And this is something that
Grant and I had talked about last offseason when we
were discussing the Portland Trailblazers, and it did take a while,
but things started to coll lace for them. It didn't
seem like everyone fit together. And Toronto is in a
similar boat to where Okay, RJ. Barrett and Brandon Ingram
and Scottie Barnes and then what's happening? They have all
these bigs and fours that can't really shoot. How does
Jako Perle factor into it all? I feel like in
the minutes that their core guys have played together over
the past two seasons, it's the season and change. There
hasn't been a lot of it because of injuries. For
the most part, they've absolutely annihilated opponents, and I isolated
even further because I do think that there's something to
be said about RJ. Barrett being the odd man out here,
and so in the time that Emmanuel Quickly, Scottie Barnes,
and Yakub Peertle have logged without RJ Barrett. Over the
past two seasons, the Raptors are plus eight point seven
points per one hundred possessions with an offensive rating that's
like close to one hundred and twenty four. And they're
not shooting threes that well during these minutes thirty six
point seven percent. Now you throw they're shooting like six
what is it like sixty crazy percent on twos? Sixty
percent on twos. What's really interesting is now you put
Brandon Ingram in RJ Barrett's place here, brand Ingram's a
better three point shooter. That's something that you could Bank.
I think RJ. Barrett's better at moving off the ball
right now. But RJ. Barrett didn't really start moving off
the ball or operating with these heads of steam in
transition with the Knicks and some of those second units. Sure,
but like RJ. Barrett is used differently in Toronto than
the way he was from New York, I don't see
anything about brandon Ingram, not as much like RJ. Barrett
has more of that like knife through butter movement away
from the ball shore. You can use brandon Ingram, I
think in a lot of the same ways. And I
think you could argue that brandon Ingram coming to the
Raptors is better as a passer and a shooter than RJ.
Barrett was coming to the Raptors when he did. Now,
you could talk about the passing after the season, especially
to start that RJ had last year, So you've upgraded
the talent in that spot. And if you just get
a hit from anywhere else, maybe Grady Dick takes it
like another lead he started off the season really well,
or maybe you get something like oh chaiak Baji just
like had a really good year. He continues to shoot
the three ball well or maybe you even fox in fiddle.
You're a guy, mamu, someone who could space the flour
at the five spot. Maybe you see what that looks
like instead of Perle. But just go through go through
the depth chart too. They have a lot of dudes
that will be dogs on defense. I think Scotty Barnes
is good there. Emmanuel Quickly has not been good defensively
in Toronto. I think he has more to offer. I
just think the stop and start nature of what he's
been in terms of availability is hurt him. Jamal shd
ak Baji is another one. If you get any minutes
from Mobo or Colin Murray Boyles, like those are guys
that I think, especially Colin Murray Boyles. If you told
me Klin Murray Boyle's played thirty minutes a game, I'm
not saying he will. I might like he could make
an all defense team, that's how good I think he
might be out of the gate. So they just have
a lot of guys. They're not all perfect fitting, but like,
it doesn't always need to be perfect fitting. This isn't oh.
Stars have a way of figuring it out. But sometimes
you're just so deep and have so much actual positive
NBA talent that you will figure it out. And I
also kind of think we saw this for stages last year,
Like even if the offense is choppy, I really do
look at this team as one that could be a
gangbuster on the defensive end as well. Like they're young,
they can play fast, but also they could force a
bunch of turnovers. If they want to go to that
aggressive route, get out and transition, then that helps your offense.
So I look at the Raptors as I'm not saying
there'll be a top four seed in the East, but
if we just kind of look back and see that
the Raptors won forty five games, it wouldn't it wouldn't
shock me. But I think that they're built to shock.
In general.
Speaker 2: I love that inclusion and I think it's it's pretty
interesting that we started with the Bulls and then the Raptors,
because I just wrote a piece about the Raptors, specifically RJ.
Speaker 3: Barrett over at Forbes.
Speaker 2: You know, in terms of like they can probably get
to a new level if they pivot off RJ. Because
they need a guard. And there is a world where
in a deal centered around r J. Barrett and Kobe White,
and Nikola Vusovich kind of makes sense if you want
to optimize, like the floor spacing in Toronto. Now where
it gets tricky, And I didn't mention this in the piece.
I didn't even include Vucevic. I took this from a
Toronto perspective. Like a Kobe White type of player, there
would be beautiful for them, a guy who can.
Speaker 3: Play a lot off the ball.
Speaker 2: But like if they are looking at you know, forty
forty five wins, but they want to make that leap,
like they think the trade deadline that they're like, okay,
if we get buried out of town, if we make
that push for Kobe and Booch, maybe that's the ticket
to actually get into the playoffs fully fledged. Would you
even be willing to, like Dankle Colin Murray Boyles in
those trade talks to get those guys in, Just like
if I had Kobe on a longer deal, I would,
But since I don't, I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't either, just because you do get into
a situation where, yes, they could play together, but how
much money are you gonna want committed to a manual quickly?
In Kobe White long term, especially after having paid Barnes
and Ingram, so that I probably wouldn't include Collin. I
mean maybe if the Bulls are sending out a pick
or something in that scenario, or you're getting ioed assume
as well. But he's also someone who's gonna be up.
Speaker 2: For Yeah, he also needs he needs a new deal
as well. Booch needs a new deal. But I mean, well,
I mean, right, you can get him on the cheat right.
But it's it's interesting. I think those two are going
to be the potential trade partners if we're wrong about
you know, them not being surprises.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I'm I Finding an RJ. Barrett team
is tough. I've thought about Charlotte a little bit because
they have like not a ton of wings, but I
don't know who, Like, do you are they giving you
Colin Sexton? That makes your team a little smaller, does
help their shooting. He's an expiring contract. I don't I
don't know which side would have interest in that. But
finding an RJ. Barrett team is It's the I thought
about Washington until they traded for Cam Whitmore. Now it's like, okay,
well no, it doesn't need to be It definitely doesn't
need to be Washington, who's your next team, sir?
Speaker 2: Well, So by definition I have to go Spurs positive
in a positive light obviously, and that is because I
am I'm going out on a limb, Dan, and I'm
I'm being even more of an idiot than usual. I
think that the Spurs are going to win fifty plus games,
and I think Victorum Panama's to be the youngest MVP
in league history.
Speaker 1: I think, so this is a good team to pick
because I had them as a team that's going to
be an unpleasant surprise, like to clock. So like this
is a great discussion to have. I kind of just
feel like we're getting ahead of our skis here. I
think they won the minutes with Wemby last year. On
the court, they're like almost a plus four. They have
more talent objectively on the roster, right, but you also
have two major young guards and Steph Castle and Dylan Harper.
And I know that Spurs fans tend a default that
it's just all gonna work out right away. I'm not
saying it's not all gonna work out, that the dynamic
will never work out, but right away, like we're so
are you just if they're going to be good. So
I'll start there. If you think that's going to happen.
Do you think that Dylan Harper then is not really
going to play a major role for this teamer? You
just expect him to be really good?
Speaker 2: Off rip I off rip first and foremost. I love
his game. I think he is an NBA ready player,
both physically and the game. And like the IQ wise,
like the shooting is a legit question mark, and I'm
not trying to downplay that.
Speaker 3: I think I think the shooting concerns.
Speaker 2: Are greater with Castle than Harper, though, like I think
we've done the Spurs a bit of a disservice by
going into this everyone and saying, oh, well, Castle and
Harper are both bad shooters where this is this is
partially true, but one is further ahead than the other.
Speaker 3: I think that's fair to say.
Speaker 1: Again, Also the Harper stuff, I know what the percentages are,
but now after getting a chance to see him and
the way he moves in Summer League, right, I said this, like,
I'm just not worried about that dude as a shooter
long term, and so it's not on a level of
I know some people provide pushback on oh, Steph Castle
will eventually be a good shooter. That's the that's the
guy to talk about. I think that's the right guy.
Like Harper. I'm just not really worried about as an
off baller on ball shooter exactly.
Speaker 2: And I think if he comes in and pops, which
I think, then Castle might be a little bit of
a luxury item where he's nice to have, not need
to have, so like whatever he gives you, you can
sort of pluck him in where he's necessary, like he's
a big dude. Or are we saying that you can't
put Castle at the three occasionally to get a little
bit more playmaking and shooting in the back court. I'm
just not ruling that out. But for me, obviously, when
I have wemps the MVP here, which is the real
thing is I think this is going to be like
a superhuman year from him, and I think Darren Fox is.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't like his contract, I've said as much, but
that doesn't mean Daron Fox isn't damn good like him,
pushing the tempo, him just getting everyone moving.
Speaker 3: We know Wemby is able to play with quick guards.
Speaker 2: We've seen that both at the NBA level, We've seen
it in the international level as well, Like, this is
a dude who understands, oh, if the guards are actually
running and pushing, I need to make myself available constantly.
Be that as a trailing three point shooter, be that
as a lob threat. Hell be it as an open
mid range guy, like he does not like look at
the game as like, yeah, he does have an analytical approach,
but he's not someone who will not take an open
mid range you know what I mean. Like, he understands
the value of an open shot, whether it's a three
or made or whatever, and so he won't discriminate. That
was the word I was looking for. He won't discriminate shots.
And now you also add in thesell who I think
he had a down year. I think there's a perfectly
reasonable expectation for him to bounce.
Speaker 3: Back a little bit.
Speaker 2: We know Harrison Barnes is efficient. We know he takes
a lot of threes, we know he scores a lot
at the rim. We know he's efficient. At the same time,
I also don't think they're done. I don't assume that
they're going to finish the year with the roster that
they have now twenty four point five I think million
in backup centers in shape of Kellyo Linic and Luke Cognette.
That to me is just like such a flag that
something is going down before the traded line, like there's
definitely a deal to be found there. And if they're
on the right track by December, January whatever, I assume
that they're going to feel some calls and try to
make a sort of pushing, not like all the chips,
but some of them to make them better right off
the bat. I also think they have some depth, and
I think that goes flies a little bit onder the radar.
I know you have mentioned a lot and not inaccurately,
the spacing issues and like where is the shooting going
to come from? But there are players on this roster
who we always tend to forget about, like Julian Champagni
legitimately rotation guy. He started for him a lot last
year at three million. By the way, major bargain, no
one seems to get.
Speaker 1: The Shampagnes are out here just getting robbed.
Speaker 3: They are really good, Both of them are really good.
Speaker 1: I've already put this out there, I've who I proposed
it to. I'm already trying to get Justin Champagne to
the Knicks. Somehows the Wizards just have too many wings.
Right now, Justin Champagne to the next somebody make it happen.
Speaker 2: He's so good and he he's to get a much
better rebounder than his brother, where his brother's a little
bit more of like a finesse shooter. It's it's interesting
how different their their play style actually is, and ironically
they go great together on the floor because Champangnie is
more for like three to two or so both Champagne,
like Julian's more of a two, like a three to two,
and Justin's more for a three to four.
Speaker 3: Like they could actually play together.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I think this is gonna be like
a major major Wenby year, Like we're talking close to
thirty points. We're probably talking twelve thirteen rebounds, four blocks,
efficiency through the roof.
Speaker 3: I think this year three Wemby could be just.
Speaker 2: An absolute monster, and like, how the hell do you
stop him?
Speaker 1: And look, I have no pushback for any of the
If you tell me that Victor Womenyama's gonna play in
sixty five plus games, there's nothing you could tell me
about him or the Spurs that yeah, there's never gonna happen.
But he's just he defies logic. I think the bar
for them to surprise is just too high because I
think too many people are expecting. And that's why I
would have them as a potential disappointment. I think too
many people fall into your camp to where like, no,
this is a team. They're ready to win fifty games,
maybe what a top four seed in the end, Like
by you saying he's gonna win MVP, I would say
you're banking on them being no lower than fourth in
the West. If you're gonna say that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then that's probably more than fifty. Then we're probably
looking at fifty.
Speaker 1: Right, And just you know, when you're talking about Okay,
Okac and Houston and Denver. You love the Clippers, there's
the Timberwolves, the Lakers are looming. I just it's a
tall order. So I and I just think that we're
this is to me when Beyama specifically, no, I don't
think there's a rush to coordinate put the fucking crown
on him. I'm there, But I think the Spurs as
a team, and one of the things that that does
concern me is that they can get to some nasty
defensive come combinations. But it's not just about the three
guard stuff on offense. For me, they seem very dependent
on their floor spacing coming from the front court. Right now.
Their best shooters are Victor Wembinyama, Kelly olinok, Devin Vessel,
Harrison Barnes, like a lot of those names are coming
at the four at that four or the five at
that point. And then I also just kind of wonder, Okay,
you have the primary and the secondary creation to get
Wemby more of those paint touches that everybody wants to see,
those on the move paint touches, but do you have
the spacing yet to do that? Because he is part
of what's important. I know people get frustrated by a
shot selection sometime, and I know he has some of
those just you know, yolo threes.
Speaker 3: Let's call them.
Speaker 1: They're almost a necessity to open the floor for the
Spurs offense at this point, and I just don't know
if they've done enough to change that. And so I
still have a lot of questions about their offensive ceiling
just because you're also talking about Fox is a veteran,
so it's okay, you lose CP three I think the
turnovers will still be fine whatever, But like integrating Dylan
Harper specifically, whether he's running the second unit or you
want him on the ball in like primary lineup minutes
with Wemby and Stephan Cast, I just things could get
really rough. And so I would expect this team if
Wenby's gonna be available the entire year, yeah, like they're
gonna be in the forties. I would think of the
wins total, But like anyone kind of expecting this to
be their formal entry into fringe contention, I would just
I would pump the brakes. I love when I go negative.
I love to be proven wrong. I want to make
that clear. So I'm sure people are already mad in
the if their Spurs fans mad in the comments. I
just I still have questions about this team, which I
kind of think it's fair when it's it's year three
of Wemby, year two of Castle in year one of
Dylan Harper.
Speaker 2: And look, those are perfectly reasonable arguments at the end
of the day. For me, it's it's really the fact
that they have so much rim pressure now at the
guard spot, where we know the Spurs have just been
excellent when they haven't had a lot of floorspacing and
then getting to the rim, generating good shots near the
rim at the mid range area. Like, they know how
to get two pointers, it's kind of my point here,
and they know how to get efficient looks at two pointers.
So for them to have both Fox who can really
push the tempo. Now Dylan Harper, who is I don't
want to go into the James Harton comparisons, but like,
physically he's similar to James in the sense that broad shoulders,
a lot of strength, can really get people to bounce
off of him instead of him bouncing off of other players.
I just think that component of having that downhill segment
is just going to unleash Wemby in a row that
we have not yet seen.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be an interesting one to track. I'll
have to put a pin in it to see who
makes out closer. So I was gonna go negative and alternate,
but I kind of did just go negative as your
counterpoint to the Spurs, So I'll go positive again. They've
sucked me in again. I said this last year the
Charlotte Hornets. I think yet people are too quick to
just oh, they're gonna be like one of the two
or three worst teams in the East. I won't again,
this is not something I'm gonna roll out, but I
would just like to point we're gonna start with Flamelo
ball more. I know your favorite player in the NBA.
Right past three seasons, Here's where his teammates have ranked
in three point efficiency last year the twenty second percentile,
the year before that, the seventeenth percentile the year before that,
the first percentile. That's all poor per B Ball Index.
Now you look at the other thing that I don't
think it's talked about enough when it comes to help
is LaMelo's taking too many shots. He's on the ball
too much. Who else do you want on the ball
in Charlotte his teammates on ball gravity for his career,
so the past five seasons, his teammates have never ranked
higher than the thirty third percentile in just on ball
gravity on ball creation that as well, Like those two
different things, that is insane. And so you know what
the Hornets go out and do this summer. Yeah, probably
came with the expensive defense, but they traded for Collin
Sexon in a deal that I still don't understand. For
the conventional wisdom suggests that if you're the team giving
up the worst player on the worst contract, you should
include a pick. The Hornet's got a pick. Kudos to
Jeff Peterson and co. They draft Conk Nipple, they draft
Liam McNeely. Brandon Miller is going to be healthier and
whether you want to see him, they put him on
the ball more. Last year. I think he showed stuff
as a passer. The turnovers got a little egregious. But
now he'll be year three, Hopefully he's healthier. He'll be
working with better spacing or you know what they could
maybe do for him, get him moving downhill off the
ball more frequently so that he can get to the rim.
Draw some fouls might be a strength thing. Yeah, there's
questions at the center position. They're not like their best
wing aside from Brandon Miller is like wing defensively, I
mean because Canipple and McNeely have the size of wings,
which I also feel like doesn't get talked about enough.
People keep calling them like these two guards and they're
six to seven, like they got they got real size. Yeah,
but like it might be Josh Green and that's not okay.
I would argue he was fine last year. He's also
injured right now, so we're probably gonna see I would assume,
can nipples start to begin?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 1: I really wish I was. I feel like I would
sound so much smarter about the Hornets because I'm recording
the Hornets look ahead, like twenty four hours after we
record this, I sound so much smarter if I'd already
recorded it, shout out in advance to Kannada Edwards. So
I'm just I'm looking at this team. Yeah, they over
indexed maybe on offense and guards, but like, if LaMelo
stays healthy and you're just giving him room to work
to where his efficiency improves, you'll see his decision making
on offense improved. Maybe his assist rate or assist a
turnover rate or assist to usage rate, whoever you want
to frame it, is gonna go up in the right direction.
This is a team that I've and just you know,
Brendon Miller. If you're high on Brandon Miller, I'm not
saying he needs to be an All Star this season,
But if you're high on Brendon Miller, why wouldn't he
get better? Like what is the argument against Brandon Miller
getting better? So I have defensive questions about this, Yeah, right,
and even on defense, look the center stuff. I like
theb the offensive rebounding is good. I think he's done
made some strides as the rim protector. I think he'll
be a better finisher now that there's more ball handlers
in spacing around him too. I do have questions about
the defense, but Charles Lee has also already implemented a
system that did a good job dissuading looks at the
rim with like the personnel last year was like, you're
not looking if they didn't have Grant Williams, that you
look at the center position wasn't exactly. Yeah, they had
Mark Williams for a good chunk of the year, but
he's no just like, you know, defensive like stopper. So
I'm not saying they'll get better defensively, but like, I
don't know, they didn't. I don't know how much worse
they're actually gonna get defensively, if they get worse at all.
So I kind of like this team. I don't know
what their upper end outcome would be, but I've seen
a lot of just oh, like they're gonna be one
of the three worst teams in the East and I'm
kind of like, I don't like if they might win
enough to be like eight seven, maybe maybe six. So
I'm keeping my eye on the Hornets. I'm not predicting it.
I'm just saying I would say their ceiling is probably
be like six or seven, and that I think is
a higher ceiling then people are giving them credit.
Speaker 2: Well, we agreed that that ceiling means that everything has
to go right, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I get if your argument, not yours specifically,
is LaMelo's gonna play in forty games and Brandon Miller
is gonna get it, He's not gonna play in sixty
five and the center, Like, I don't have a great
argument against that. But if if these if this team
is gonna be any semblance of healthier like Trey Man
coming back from the neck injury, if Grant but Grant
Williams will help them if they want to switch more
on defense, should he be healthier like coming off that
ACL injury, Like this is a team that will I
would almost say if they're healthy and they win fewer
than like thirty five thirty seven games, I'd be pretty surprised.
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, all right, I mean, look, I know you've
been optimistic about them. I respect that, just as you
respect me being optimistic about the Spurs.
Speaker 1: Yours is easier to justify, though, just because it's the
The Spurs have one to be in the Hornets, don't.
Speaker 2: I was about to say that, but in a nicer way.
But yes, I do see your point, though, Like, I'm
not personally that high on Continental, and yet I need
to see a little bit more of him before I'm
like at the NBA level, not summer league level, before
I'm like fully confident.
Speaker 1: I just I was impressed with him and McNeely. I
think this is coming from someone who just doesn't follow college.
The level of just playmaking from the two of them
that you could see in some league that really turned
my head.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they do have that.
Speaker 2: I just wonder when the competition gets significantly tougher whether
they still have that advantage. If they do, a lot
of my concerns just remove itselves themselves from the from
the table immediately. I do also think that if they
somehow find a way to just take Miles Bridges off
the roster. And I'm not only speaking on you know,
as a human being, because there's that element of course,
I also just don't think he's a good basketball player
in terms of like an influentially positive basketball player. He
scores a lot and that's basically what he does. He
takes up a lot of shots within the offense.
Speaker 1: On so so efficiency and so efficiency.
Speaker 2: Like to me, these hornets would be so much more
interesting if you took his role away or just him away,
and spread out that those responsibilities to like a series
of different players. So like, you know, you almost hope
that if there is an injury out there, that it's
not going to be Lamello or or Brandon Miller, that
it's going to be Miles Bridges.
Speaker 3: And yeah, oh oh.
Speaker 2: More, did you just wish injury upon a player for
that guy specifically?
Speaker 3: I have no issue doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you also didn't. You just said you basically just
boiling it down to if a team needs to miss
a player, you would prefer to be Miles Bridges, then
low ball Brandon Miller, which is just that's the fair
of fact. I think who's your next team? And I'm
assuming you're gonna go with a disappointment here a.
Speaker 2: Little bit of a disappointment. I I just have to
go with the Warriors at this point. And I understand
that we still haven't God in the resolution to the
Jonathan cominga situation. I understand that, but the lag of
spacing so far is problematic.
Speaker 3: In my view.
Speaker 2: We are looking at a team where Steph just has
to carry so much more responsibility. As you know, Gravity
advice that when you look at the squad and look
at his age, you're just sort of setting your up.
So you're setting yourself up potentially for disappointment and potentially
also to just put him in a situation where he's
over taxed physically, and you don't want to do that,
especially at this stage of his career. Like Jimmy is
not an actual shooter, Draymond is not a natural shooter.
They're going to have to play a lot of minutes
together defensively, they're tremendous.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit here and say that there aren't positives.
Obviously there are.
Speaker 2: But in today's league, you just need to have that
floor spacing capability.
Speaker 3: Where is that going to come from?
Speaker 2: Even if they retain Jonathan Kaminga, that's not gonna help
them in the spacing front, Like, what what is your
plan here?
Speaker 3: Play?
Speaker 2: Buddy Healed forty five minutes per game. Like Al Horford
presumably is gonna come in. He can help in that department,
but that's not necessarily high volume to Anstheony Melton, we
have no idea whether he's like fully healthy and back
to his normal shooting capabilities, Like those are for me
a little bit larger question marks. Now I'm not saying
this can't go right, but it does feel like, Yeah,
like I said before, everything has to go right for
me to like believe in them. The talent is there,
but it's that talent like does that fit alongside each other?
That's that's basically my big ass question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. I don't I don't know
what to make of this team, Meaning before we assume
Comingda's back and they get Horford and Melton, they've been
linked to Brogden. Speaking of players that have health issues,
it's they they're tantalizing because having Jimmy Butler gives you
this lifeline during the on Steph minutes that they've never
even with Durant because of like as a playmaker and
as someone who gets downhill and puts pressure on the
rim that they didn't even have during that era. Necessarily,
but they're all so old, and so it's just someone
like that gives you like pause, and then it's we've
just seen a lot of the players that they relying on,
including if Jonathan Kminga is back, or if it is
a Buddy Healed, or if it is a Brandon Pajemski,
they all just sort of wax and wane, like their
best constant is Quinton Post, Like that is the guy
that you know is gonna be there day in and
day out and giving you all star caliber play. Just
catching to see if you were listening. But it's also
just the true fact.
Speaker 3: The I like, I love Quentin Post.
Speaker 1: Well, he's a little too important though in the sense
of cause you need that floor spacing around the Draymond
Jimmy Butler and if Jonathan Kminga's peppered in there, do
you want to be that reliant on Quentin Post or
even do you want to say I love Al Horford.
That'll be a fantastic signing should it go through. Do
you want to be that reliant on Quinton Post and
Al Horford? I think there's to me, I still view
spacing at the center position, or I'll say like floor
spacing because there's vertical spacing with greens. Of course, I
still viewed as something that should be more of a
luxury or like it shouldn't be as much of a
necessity as it feels like for the Warriors right now
when it's when it's Milwaukee and you're playing with Giannis, Okay,
I kind of get it. But at the same time,
like that's one of the knocks again, not knocks, but
concerns with building around Giannis is no, you need that
type of a five around him, And now you put
yourself in a situation where whether you have cominga or not,
right now, you almost need that type of a five.
So what if Quinton post progress isn't linear? What if
he kind of has a down sophomore year, or what
if the defense like he had some good straight up
like he's in the right spots around the basket for
the most part, But what if teams like really just
mutilate him on that end this year? What if Al
Horford starts to show his age? So, yeah, I could
see where you're going with it. I think I'm just
so like on the mid end with towards all, like yeah,
they'll be fifth or sixth or seventh in the West
that it's it's hard for me. I don't think that
their floor or their ceiling is much higher. But I
think I could see your case of Okay, this floor
might be a lot lower than even people.
Speaker 2: Are right, because I didn't even specify where I think
they could drop down.
Speaker 3: I think they could drop out of ten.
Speaker 2: WHOA, yeah, saying they will, don't worry, don't kill me,
warriors fans. I know there are millions of you after
Steff arrived. I know I know. Don't worry. I'm not
saying they will. I'm just saying, like, there is a
world wherein the spacing is just completely messed up, where
there it's injuries galore because of age and things just
look horrible and they're just outside the entire plane picture.
Speaker 1: I mean, so you're saying they will be they could
be worse than one of the Suns, Pelicans, Jazz and Kings.
Speaker 2: Right again, I will say injuries would have to factor
in here, like if they're healthy, they'll find a way
to be relevant, right. I mean, it's it's Steph, it's Jimmy,
it's Straymond, like come on, like, but it's the ages though,
Like Steph is what thirty seven, he's gonna be thirty
eight during the end of the regular season like that.
Let's not sit here and say that that, you know,
you can defy Father time. We're even seeing with Lebron
even though he took it to the limit. It's getting there.
It's getting to be that time. That's gonna be applicable
to Steph as well. It's gonna be applicable to Jimmy,
to Draymond and Jimmy, by the way, if memory serves,
he's begun like missing a few games here and there,
like he's he's not the iron Man that he used
to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always dealing with stuff and he just he's
he's selectively Jimmy. Now where postseason Jimmy became like this
mythic figure, but he actually existed, And now it's sort
of like postseason Jimmy might exist because regular season Jimmy
is way more selective than he was what like let's
say three years ago, which, by the way, sure, if
that's gonna if that's gonna keep you like close to
performing at the close to your peak during the most
important time of the year, then I get it. But
do they have the cushion like I think it's a fact,
like they have real depth on this roster, but is
it depth that can navigate in absence from it? Because
so I'll ask you this, are they in a situation
to where it's they could lose, like Draymond or Jimmy
could miss time and you still think they would be
screwed or do you still view them as a team
because you're probably more confident in them if you say, yeah,
Steph misses time, like the whole thing is just fucked
and surprise, surprise, like that's been true for how many
years now? But if you think they're at a point
where it's like, I don't even know Steph could uplift
this roster if you pulled Draymond or Jimmy off of
it for a few weeks, that's where it becomes.
Speaker 2: Really probably, And that's where I'm I'm at because I
I just can't. Maybe he can, right, but I don't
think that would be a fair expectation from my perspective,
Like I don't think that's reasonable to go into a
season and telling a forty seven year old Steph, hey, look,
Jimmy Butler's out for the next month. Can you just
go utter ape shit again like you used to and
just average thirty five and hit like six threes per game?
Can you just do that for us? I think that
is such a preposterous ask, and because he also needs,
like we were talking about the spurs and wem be
needing like downhill action. There's no question then when there
is downhill action, like when Draymond turns on the jets,
which can't really do you know, to the same extent
as as.
Speaker 3: He used to.
Speaker 2: But when he just pushed the ball and Steph found
those gaps, especially in transition, he was just so freaking terrifying, Like,
who's gonna be that guy who is going to brag?
A guy that Steph can also play off off because
he does need that on occasion. If you're not having
Jimmy around and Draymond is looking old, what then do
you expect to just say snap your fingers and then
Steph will go back to being twenty six again. It
doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1: So man, imagine if it did.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, that'd be a cheat one. I mean, could
you imagine if you could do that to a whole
roster and like selectively go into the prime years of
each guy prime Raymond Prime, Jimmy Prime staff.
Speaker 3: Do you know how good the Clippers would be?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Like they would cruise, they would cruise to a title
like Oh could you imagine the Spurs just basically doing
the opposite and just accelerating Wemby to like year seven Wemby.
Speaker 1: Oh, I you know, I haven't even given thought this
isn't the Wemby segment. But I don't even think I've
given enough thoughts. Okay, well, what does Victor Webber Yama
look like in his prime?
Speaker 2: I've spent way too much time thinking about it, and
I think it's gonna be preposterous. But no, look, I'm
not predicting that the Warriors will, you know, drop out
of tenth seat. I'm just saying that there is a
world wherein the perfect storm hits and everything just goes bad.
Speaker 1: It does feel, you know, I've given I haven't given
them a lot of crap. I've shown some skepticism for
the Clippers, but the Warriors almost feel like their floor
is lower than like the Clippers to me have a
higher floor than the Warriors, probably because they're still just
top heavy, or you're saying JK or Brandon Pajimski is
really going to caps lock pop, which is just that's
harder than like looking at the Clippers cast of veterans
and thinking they can navigate an injury to Kawhi or
James Harden slipping or Bradley Beale not panning out. So yeah,
I don't know that I would, like we said, we're
not predicting things. I want to remind people at this point.
But there, that's definitely a team to keep an eye on.
I don't want to are we ready to move on?
Speaker 3: We are?
Speaker 2: I just want to mention one last thing, And I
know it's sacral issues, sacrilgious to just mention that Steph
is trying to drop off, but have you also seen
like his production level over the past two years, like
we are, I think it is fair to say that
we are beginning to see the not Hasten declined at all,
because quite the opposite, the slow, very gracious decline of
Stephan Curry. I think we approached it.
Speaker 1: So we need to spend a second on that, because
I think it's fair to say that. But I've come
to look at it like this is what is the
current version of Steph Curry in today's NBA? Is he
still one of the ten to fifteen best players. Yeah, yes,
still yes, then I think that's honestly all that matters.
There's a difference between Okay, we can't say that he's
one of the top five, but like I don't want
to say he exited that territory a while ago. But
we've been talking about in any given season, Tatum and
b Jokic, Giannis Luka, Doncic as all being in that.
So him and Lebron have been on the fringes of
Kevin Durantz of course been in there too. So I
agree with what you're saying. And it does, it diminishes
your margin for error. But even Steph Curry at what
seventy five eighty percent of Steph Curry from two years ago,
But yeah, it's it's of course something to track and
spoiler alert, someone in their late thirties isn't as good
as they were there.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say it because I know there's
going to be pushback on it by Warriors fans, and
I understand that because look, how do you not fall
in love with Steph Curry if you're a Deubs fan
over the course of like these sixteen years, How do
you not do that obviously.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean his so his scoring per minute has
dipped in each of the past two years, so that
would be something to monitor. But I mean just twelve
and a half threes.
Speaker 3: But it's still ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's still ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And do you know where I think he's probably inoculated
against any individual drop off is that defenses will always
guard him like a five alarm fire. So he is
propping up your team even if he's not scoring or
on the ball or touches in the corner.
Speaker 3: In the corner, he's providing you.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was. I didn't want to go here, and
I just want to make it clear that it's relative
to expectations. I think this team could just point. Oh
it's the New York Knicks. Here's my thing. They're one
of only I think five teams that are predicted when
you're looking at the win totals to have over fifty
three wins. They are, they are good, but there are
a couple things that I think we need to consider.
Speaker 3: Oh, can I guess one? Can I guess one of
your points?
Speaker 1: Go ahead?
Speaker 3: Carl Anton needs sounds and the lack of rim defense.
Speaker 1: Oh, no that I mean, like, that's a point, but
it's not one of my primary things.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Okay, No, you've been harping on that a
lot this summer, so I was just wondering if you
would go down, well.
Speaker 1: What I would harp on it. Well, I guess it's
a tangential point. But let me get the quick one
out of the way first.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: I like the signings that they've made, but like Gershan
Yabuseli and Jordan Clarkson are not sixth Man of the
Year candidates right now. I guess maybe you could envision
a world where yab Buselli comes in and does it,
But there's the shooting I kind of buy into, and
they needed a four. If you're trying to play him
at the five at all, I don't know what that
looks like defensively. And if you're not you're going to
play him at the five and you want to start
duel Big, you're playing a lot of Ariel Huckporty at
that point, which I'm fine, but this team hasn't necessarily
shown a commitment to development. That does bring me to
my next point, which and I guess this is Karl
Anthony Towns related, but if you I think a lot
of people expect them to start Karl Anthony Towns and
Mitchell Robinson. We saw promising moments of that in the
playoffs last year. We also saw there was a game
that I think it was against the Raptors. Kat and
huck Porty were playing together and they were killing it.
But that was also the Raptors, and it was a
very small sample size Karnthy Towns and this, of course
was one of the biggest problems people had with Tibbs
Mitchell Robinson. With the starters played in place of Heart
played sixty seven minutes across the regular season in playoffs
last year, that's not a large enough sample size to
go off of good or bad. And by the way,
it wasn't really good or bad. In net. They were
a minus one in those minutes, so almost a neutral.
But what you're doing by playing Mitchell Robinson next to
Karl Anthony Towns is saying, we have completely punted on
this idea of being a five out team for a
majority of the game. And now you've either punted on
this for one of two reasons, you don't think you
actually have the personnel to do it, because Josh Hart
makes you play. Okay, you can play five out lineups,
but it's really more like what four and a half
four in a quarter out at that point, or you're
saying we need Karl Anthony Towns to play alongside another center,
in which case paying Karl Anthony Towns so much money
is inherently problematic. So yes, that part can come back
to Karl Anthony Towns. Now, if you told me the Knicks,
we're gonna start duce McBride instead. I think that lineup
has far more potential, just from a higher end perspective,
because duce McBride better point of attack defender than mckail Bridges.
So now Michal Bridges trickles down, he's playing more of
his ideal role on defense. You do get five out
spacing because that's what duce McBride does, is to threes.
But then you have Mitchell Robinson and Josh Hart both
coming off the same bench. What does the spacing look
like there? And if you don't believe in Gershon Yabucelli
shooting just yet, tons of question marks?
Speaker 3: Oh well you should you should by to that shooting.
Speaker 1: Can I buy I'm saying I buy into it. But
it's not like he's coming in and taking what if
he's playing how many First of all, how many minutes
per game is he play? This is someone who avers
about five attempts per thirty six minutes last year, right,
joby Sell, that's not an astronomical rate. And I think
that defenses are still like if he's your fa just
as someone with a meat to the antidote to a
Josh Hart Mitchell Robinson lineup, Gershon Yabucelli does not have
the gravity to change that.
Speaker 2: No, well, the thing is because this isn't at you.
But I've seen like the shooting counter arguments for for
Yap was saying like, oh, like can he really come
in and be an NBA shooter?
Speaker 3: Like he was only a pedestrian.
Speaker 2: He's in Boston, and people are just completely ignoring how
elite of a shooter he what's the real Madrid for example,
Like he's been a strong ass shooter for like five
years now. So I just wanted to make sure the
people are aware that this isn't a guy who's just
gonna have like a lucky few weeks where he hits
like forty five percent from downtown. The guy is a
tremendous shooter, and I think the best part about it
is if he gets enough confidence from the coaching staff,
he's a guy who can actually ramp it up. So
it's interesting. We'll see what happens. But I would not
be in any way, shape or form nervous about a
more high volume version of Yahoo.
Speaker 1: I think he's a good signing. I actually think it.
He'll probably end up playing fewer minutes for the next
thing he did with the Sixers. When you look at
other in front court, it's popular. I mean, maybe an
injury happens, But you also can't like if you play
him in towns together, that's five out. I don't know
what the defense looks like in those instances either, a.
Speaker 3: Lot of offense I wouldn't hate.
Speaker 1: Uh, they're gonna try it for sure. The other thing, too,
is I like Mike Brown from the perspective of more
things should be happening off the ball. He's already kind
of hinted at using Jalen Brunson in different ways, and
I'm a firm believer that Jalen Brunson can be used
in different ways. But but we can't pretend that the
Knicks have another high level creator on their team. Currenty
Towns is too inconsistent, hasn't shown enough live drivel playmaking.
The tunnel vision he gets on drives is just like
a career long epidemic for him.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 1: Yes, McHale Bridges has never really been that guy. Maybe
he has another level to get to. We will see.
It's not Ojiananobi. That's not Duce McBride's role I've seen.
I've seen people call Jordan Clarkson a wing. No, he's
not a wing. But he's also not a floor general.
Like he did improve it thought he did. He had
nice moments or at least ratchet up the passing in
Utah didn't really have another choice. But he's not someone
you look at and think that he you're comfortable him
driving the offense. I think the Knicks, as we're recording this,
trying to target a guard as But like they've been
interested in Ben Simmons, they've been linked to Brogden, They've
also been linked to Beasley, and they've been linked to
other guys too. It does kind of feel tell tale
that they believe whether it's Landry Shammitt coming in or
Beasley or Brogden. They don't think Tyler Kolek is gonna
be the answer there either, And so are they really
built to make Jalen Brunson's workload lighter, Because this is
someone who's ranked in the ninety fifth percentile or higher
and his three years with Knicks with the Knicks of
true usage, all while logging two thousand minutes or more
per season. The other players to do that more in
the same three year span, Jannis Jokic, Shay, Damian Lillard. Yeah,
you can look at that and say, well, this is
a testament to Jallen Brunton's skill and durability. It absolutely
is none of those other guys, with the exception of
Damian Lillard, who's also a little bit taller than Jalen Brunton.
But like, look at how Damian Lillard's body held up.
We're talking about a smaller guard here. I know he
took on a higher volume role later, but you want
to get to a point where you could say Jalen
Brunson will be at the peak in the playoffs, which
he's he has been, but also we want Jalen Brunson
to be peak. Jalen Brunson two three years down the line. Still,
I just don't know. I'm open to the idea that
they could be better, that this will be a team
that is more capable of winning three to four playoff series,
but I kind of think we're penciling them in as oh,
they're easily like, no worse than two in the East.
When my final part of this point is I didn't
pick them as a team that could surprise because I
think people are high on both of these squads. The
Hawks and the Magic are right there. There's a chance,
like the Sixers, you don't want to predict they'd be
a surprise, but if they get any semblance of health,
like that's a team that could factor in Miami. I
don't know that I'm in love with the roster, but
they're really deep. Now. I don't understand the Heywood high
Smith trade. Yes, Boston and Indiana will be missing their
best players. Milwaukee has Giannis Turner and a bunch of
guys basically that might be enough to make a ruckus
in the East. So I think the Knicks are gonna
end up being one of the two or three best
teams in the East. That's how I would But if
you're if we're trying to think that between firing Thibodau
and going to Mike Brown and then signing Yabu Selling
and Clarkson, then deepening your rotation to guaranteed nine players.
But which is that's good? I just I I'm put
a pin in it. That's all, like, let's put another
pin in it. I'm not saying they'll be worse, but
I don't know that they're going to be much better
than they were last year.
Speaker 3: I think that's that's fair. I think that's that's fair.
Speaker 2: So to your point about using Brunson off ball a
little bit more, you don't think Josh Hart could come
in and take on the on ball reps in those situations.
Speaker 1: With Jalen Brunson on the court, I don't really love
that as like a member of the second unit. Maybe,
and sure you can do that with Jalen Brunson, but
I'm talking more about like of a Josh Josh Hart
to me, is more like a full speed creator, and
they need someone who's gonna be better at breaking down at.
Speaker 3: Half court of by the way, guy.
Speaker 1: The other thing with Josh Hart too, is that if
in those minutes you're playing him with Mitchell Robinson statistically,
his rim pressure falls off a cliff like that's like
Karl Anthony Towns is really important to Josh Hart. So
that's another trade off, by the way that you make
of having Josh Hart come off the bench. Now, yes,
staggering patterns, what have you all that, I get it.
You could still game it. This team just still has
a couple of distinct question marks, if not flaws, And
so I could see us looking back and saying, you know,
I think the Athletics poll said that the vast majority
of Knicks fans believe they need to win the conference
finals for next season to be a success. And it's
if they're kind of getting to the NBA Finals or bust.
Let's say, there's a lot of town in the East
to where if they lost in the first their second round, like,
that's not gonna as of right now. I need to
see what happens on the court. Of course, as of
right now. I don't think that that's like a preposterous
thing to one.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. I think that's fair.
I think that's very fair.
Speaker 1: Did you have any other teams that you wanted to me?
Speaker 3: No, I think I think I went through a three.
Speaker 1: Miami could deserve an They're just so deep. I don't
know what the offense is necessarily going to look like
and how much are they playing Pelee Larson or Casperus jacacionas.
I don't know what the youth investment's going to be.
Don't love the Heighsmith trible like Norman Powell. People have
already applauded the acquisition, but like that dude gives you
rim pressure and it's going to open up the floor,
make life easier on Tyler hero. But their center rotation
is like, or are we just going to burn out?
Bam Adebayo? Now? Is that the endgame here?
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, it's fine, it's fine. Like their their
depth is fine, But I still find the team overall
pretty unspectacular.
Speaker 3: I gotta admit I wonder is there very quickly?
Speaker 1: Was there another team you considered mentioning as a surprise
or a disappointment.
Speaker 2: Well, see, I thought about Dallas, and then I realized
I have no freaking idea where they're going up and down,
So I thought that that wouldn't be fair because like
you could basically point them in every wish direction.
Speaker 1: I think the Kings could surprise some people and maybe
not move heaven and Earth to make sure that Russell
Westbrook is signed. That could be like real surprise that
could happen there more. This was fun and it was
kind of cool limiting it to three teams because I
had other tough cuts and it's just I was happy
you picked the Spurs, but then I was a little
sad because you picked the opposite end of the spectrum.
But I still I didn't need to burn a pick
on them. But that's why this was fun limiting it
to three teams. Are you able just to tell everyone
where they could find you and all the fantastic work
that you do.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you can find you over at Kyahu Sports,
for Red Forbes, at the NBA podcast and if you
speak damish bus.
Speaker 1: Rem until next time, And as always, we moved a
shout out to the one, the only, the indelible, the
real surprise MVP candidate of the season once he finds
an NBA team, Mister Frank Nila Keenan