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<v Speaker 1>Hudson River Radio dot Com Like can you want I come?

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<v Speaker 2>They come on the land me Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, this is Jesse Carmichael from Room five.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, this is Phil Margol of the Tokens.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello.

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<v Speaker 6>It's Nicole Atkins on the Rock and Roll History Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the Rock and Roll History

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<v Speaker 2>Show on Hudson River Radio. I'm Chief Cupid Brian Horowitz,

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<v Speaker 2>gonna try to control all the cat crambones we have

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<v Speaker 2>here tonight. As is our tradition, Valentine's is coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>so uh we all pick either pro or con Valentine's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tracks and see where our mood falls. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to seeing what happens tonight as always.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we hop in, allow me to introduce all the

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<v Speaker 2>crambones who are joining us here tonight. First and foremost,

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<v Speaker 2>from the Rich Observatory. He believes that only girls are

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<v Speaker 2>born on Valentine's Day because there's no mail delivery on holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>Neil Richter is back.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I see what you did that?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I see.

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<v Speaker 4>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody, the host of Paranormally Yours. She believes skunk's love

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<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day because they're sentimental.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Stinky ponds, sticky pons.

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<v Speaker 8>Wait wait, wait till everybody hears the song, I chows, Oh,

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<v Speaker 8>I can't wait. Keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And from the silver screen she saw two chemists walk

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<v Speaker 2>into a bar on Valentine's Day. One said to the other,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got my eye on you, Mercedes Cat this year.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so it did take me a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, A good thinker every now and then. It's

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<v Speaker 2>never got hurt anybody.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, everybody, Happy Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>And our absolutely retired teacher, he says, if you always

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<v Speaker 2>want a date on Valentine's Day, get a calendar.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, everybody, Happy Valentine's Day to everybody out there in

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<v Speaker 9>radio land.

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<v Speaker 2>And last but not least, the host of shaving Cream,

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<v Speaker 2>she says, the one flower you should never give on

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<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day is califlower.

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<v Speaker 10>Barbara Ville this year, I would agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would disagree. I'd be very happy to get a cauliflower.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm a little strange. What can I say?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to be to be on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. So Yeah, this this Valentine's Day tradition

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<v Speaker 2>kind of geled a few years ago. It was we

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<v Speaker 2>were kind of split fifty to fifty pro Valentine's anti Valentines.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm neutral on Valentine's. I am against the price gouging,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am for all the chalk that comes with it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm kind of in the middle of myself and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to hearing what everybody has chosen for

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<v Speaker 2>this year's selection. And Mercedes, you're going to leave us

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<v Speaker 2>up this.

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<v Speaker 3>Year, I am, and I am really happy to be

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<v Speaker 3>kicking off the show today because I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>my Valentine's Day song is pro or con.

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<v Speaker 5>And maybe you can help me decide.

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<v Speaker 3>The song title is Go to the Line, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>by a band called the Nightcaps, and it's from nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty two album of the same name on Sire Records.

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<v Speaker 3>And first I want to tell you a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>about the band. I worked for Sire Records at the

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<v Speaker 3>time that this song was released, and I was a

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<v Speaker 3>huge fan. I went to every show that I could,

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<v Speaker 3>and I knew the band members. I lost track of

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<v Speaker 3>them over time, but I never forgot I reached out

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<v Speaker 3>to a mutual friend and found Jan about two years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>so I decided to bring him along to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the song and maybe he can tell you if it's

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<v Speaker 3>pro or con Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 11>God, you know, hi Hi, you don say hi jam Hi.

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<v Speaker 7>Everybody ex musing reason all things for picking a song

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<v Speaker 7>of mine. But it's funny because when you asked me,

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<v Speaker 7>I thought, well, I don't really have any love songs

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<v Speaker 7>because I love I loved subversive love songs like that

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<v Speaker 7>were actually political songs sounded like love songs like Curtis

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<v Speaker 7>Mayfield and stuff like that. So this, when you asked

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<v Speaker 7>me about this, I went, that was that was like

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<v Speaker 7>I was like eighteen or nineteen years old, first serious,

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<v Speaker 7>real girlfriend, and we kept breaking up and going back together.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's and I love you and why do you

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<v Speaker 7>hate me? And why do I hate you? And let's

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<v Speaker 7>get back together song? So it falls strictly in both camps.

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<v Speaker 5>Chorus. Are you in trouble?

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<v Speaker 12>John over?

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<v Speaker 2>There?

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<v Speaker 11>No?

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<v Speaker 7>No, No, that's that's my ride coming for me. Oh,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry. That's the New York City Symphony. They're coming

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<v Speaker 7>down Second Avenue.

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<v Speaker 11>They're on tour.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry, I lived near many major hospitals. Anyway you can

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<v Speaker 7>edit that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Near or in.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, depends on when you ask.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so to me, I don't know, if I ever,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Did we have lyrics back then with

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<v Speaker 3>their lyrics on that there.

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<v Speaker 11>Was there There was a lyrics sheet on the album.

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<v Speaker 7>I think Daven put it on that reissue CE that

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<v Speaker 7>came out years ago, like ten years ago or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>there were lyrics on the inner sleeve and it was

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<v Speaker 7>pictures of us and the Uptown Horns who figure really

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<v Speaker 7>largely in this Arno Hecked, Crispin, c Bob Funk, Paul

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<v Speaker 7>litteral those guys.

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<v Speaker 11>We lost them to my favorite live band ever, the

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<v Speaker 11>Jay Giles.

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<v Speaker 7>Band, So losing them was heartbreaking and yet validation. I

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<v Speaker 7>got the best guys and they contributed everything to this,

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<v Speaker 7>and that was Al Maddie who you know who you've

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<v Speaker 7>seen recently, and Sammy Brown on drums, and Peter Jordan

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<v Speaker 7>from the New York Dolls and Stumble Bunny and several

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<v Speaker 7>other bands who was on base. I started this band

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<v Speaker 7>because the Voidoids broke up when I had been in

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<v Speaker 7>Richard Hell and the Voidoids in seventy nine, and my

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<v Speaker 7>mother said, go back to school, get a job, or

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<v Speaker 7>start another band.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so I was going to say I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really well, I didn't remember the lyrics. Maybe I knew

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<v Speaker 3>him at the time, but you know, it's too busy

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<v Speaker 3>like dancing and.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it's you know, it's very funny.

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<v Speaker 7>It's that kind of like pet It's kind of a

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<v Speaker 7>petulant song. Looking at it from forty plus years, it's

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<v Speaker 7>kind of a petulant little boy breaking up but not

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<v Speaker 7>breaking up with this first serious girl who I'm still

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<v Speaker 7>friends with to this day, by the way, who I

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<v Speaker 7>who asked me for a copy of the LP who

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<v Speaker 7>because her boyfriend, who she's married to, has liked the band.

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<v Speaker 11>Life.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Really, but I think you know the chorus is I'd

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<v Speaker 5>go to the line.

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<v Speaker 11>For you, but you'd throw it all away, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, right right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I always thought of it as a romantic song, like

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<v Speaker 3>I would do any thing for you. So that was

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<v Speaker 3>my initial reason for picking the song. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>more I talk to you and the more I listened

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<v Speaker 3>to the song, I was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah it was it was you know, you're trying. I

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<v Speaker 7>was trying to like sort of snap. I can say

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<v Speaker 7>her name, she wouldn't mind. I was trying to snap

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<v Speaker 7>and Carrie Hamilton and I and I wrote you know

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<v Speaker 7>we were such a pretty pair, matching eyes and matching hair,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, eighteen year old stuff. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>wish that I could make the old days clearer. I

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<v Speaker 7>wish I could make the old days nearer.

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<v Speaker 11>We're eighteen.

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<v Speaker 7>How many old days were they? I wish that I

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<v Speaker 7>could tear you from your mirror. I might as well

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<v Speaker 7>have been speaking about my own self. So it's really

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<v Speaker 7>funny to look at it through those eyes ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>but it really is a I love you? Why why

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<v Speaker 7>don't you love me the same way I love you?

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe I don't well view this say when you love

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<v Speaker 7>me not?

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<v Speaker 5>Let's let's play the song.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh, it was such a prettiest thing.

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<v Speaker 12>Fat you're not imagine gors.

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<v Speaker 14>The town you goes up, I'll building alone And that's down.

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<v Speaker 1>Words that the.

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<v Speaker 14>Right got.

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<v Speaker 12>Got oh my.

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<v Speaker 14>On the wrists, just coming all.

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<v Speaker 15>The words coming on the road, don't.

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<v Speaker 14>Come back getting down in the sports got your can't

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<v Speaker 14>you want post your back word.

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<v Speaker 12>To words black patches black.

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<v Speaker 15>As I was another five bucks five to.

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<v Speaker 12>The issues as to tell.

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<v Speaker 11>You Rocky the d.

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<v Speaker 14>Last spot you love You're going on the words you

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<v Speaker 14>got it on the words You've got it on the way,

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<v Speaker 14>I've got the last love back up on the WT

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<v Speaker 14>colling on the WBS, step out on the word, gotta.

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<v Speaker 12>All that stuf, gotta.

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<v Speaker 13>Let you say, you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 11>The gotta.

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<v Speaker 16>Have what's come off?

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<v Speaker 11>Back to.

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<v Speaker 17>What's come off?

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<v Speaker 11>Back to the.

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<v Speaker 14>What's come off?

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<v Speaker 11>Back to the.

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<v Speaker 14>Speaks like one. I want to tell you about blas Way.

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<v Speaker 17>You said not good?

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<v Speaker 12>The other you are you sad?

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<v Speaker 11>Not good? I be saying you?

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<v Speaker 14>Is it not good that your frock your side, last funny?

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<v Speaker 14>All all the words, doing all the words, You're all

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<v Speaker 14>it all the worst.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't last.

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<v Speaker 8>I love.

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<v Speaker 14>Still thound, all the words, still do all the words,

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<v Speaker 14>still do it? All the world speaking stupid.

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<v Speaker 11>It's been a while.

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<v Speaker 5>How did it sound to you?

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<v Speaker 11>You know? I love?

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<v Speaker 7>I just it just flashed to me that when I

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<v Speaker 7>was writing that, I was fascinated with Elvis Costello's Trust album.

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<v Speaker 7>I had been and he wrote this song on that

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<v Speaker 7>album that had two distinct parts, and I thought, why

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<v Speaker 7>not just throw something in at the end that has

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<v Speaker 7>almost nothing to do with the song, but it's related,

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<v Speaker 7>and I kind of I just flashed on that when

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<v Speaker 7>I was listening to it. You don't I have to

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<v Speaker 7>listen to this in years.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that debt.

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<v Speaker 3>It changes that the song changes. I think that's very cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think you sound amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean writing parts for the horn section is not easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that something you learn how to do? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>you just figure?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I've got to give credit to the uptown horns

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<v Speaker 7>like the spinal tap joke to raga, you know. But

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<v Speaker 5>So you wrote the song, you wrote the horn?

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah, al Maddy of course always contributed arrangement stuff

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<v Speaker 7>whatever you guys, he does with music with me to

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<v Speaker 11>But he that was mine and I brought it to

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<v Speaker 5>And this this song, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 11>It charted right, No, no, it charted on on some

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<v Speaker 7>And it charted in certain places that we funnily enough,

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<v Speaker 7>We got to tour with YouTube uh in England, Scotland

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<v Speaker 7>and Wales during the war tour, and that was about

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<v Speaker 7>it for us with Sire.

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<v Speaker 11>We made just the one record and we're handsomely paid

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<v Speaker 7>So the two guys who signed us had left, and

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<v Speaker 7>Seymour was occupied with Madonna, rightfully so, and so we

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<v Speaker 7>got kind of you know, we are. We had good representation,

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<v Speaker 7>or they'll give you money.

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<v Speaker 11>And we said, give us money.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was Seymour's doing.

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<v Speaker 7>David Altshule, you know, they were the Warner Brothers structure

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<v Speaker 7>because Warner Brothers was not fond of us.

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<v Speaker 11>Sire was.

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<v Speaker 7>When we lost our champions at Sire, we lost Warner Brothers,

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<v Speaker 7>so it wasn't a you know, it wasn't a hardship story.

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<v Speaker 7>We walked away happy. I saw Seymour Stein about ten

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<v Speaker 7>years ago at a party and I said, Seymour, I

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<v Speaker 7>just wanted to thank you. And he didn't remember who

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<v Speaker 7>I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not surprised, and I said.

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<v Speaker 11>Jan from the Nightcaps. So I got seymore stories for decades.

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<v Speaker 11>We won't go there. And he looks at me. He

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<v Speaker 7>It was on Delancey Street, that club that had an

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<v Speaker 7>He looked like Sydney Green Street. It was one of

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<v Speaker 7>those wicker chairs. And I said, Seymour, I just wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to thank you, and he goes. I said, I'm Jan

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<v Speaker 7>from the Nightcabs, Barbuskuydell's nephew. And he goes and he

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<v Speaker 7>looks at me and he said thank me for what

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<v Speaker 7>because I could see it clicking for him.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah yeah, And I said, I'm sorry, I'm horse tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>I said thank you for sending me to places I

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<v Speaker 7>never would have gone, Meeting people I never would have gone.

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<v Speaker 7>He met cities I never would have gone to things

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<v Speaker 7>I never would have had had a big nice part

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<v Speaker 7>of my resume. And he looked like relieved, but I

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<v Speaker 7>didn't attack him.

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<v Speaker 17>It was like.

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<v Speaker 11>I walked away with a few bucks.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>In the band.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Good.

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<v Speaker 5>At least we did right by you. That's good to know.

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<v Speaker 3>So Seymour's for anybody who doesn't know Seymour Simus, the

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<v Speaker 3>president of Sire Records.

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<v Speaker 11>Sorry, I was speaking as if I was speaking to you,

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<v Speaker 11>not an audience.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, It's okay, let me translate.

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<v Speaker 11>Should have looked at the other six people on my street.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, We're all just listening intently and we're taking notes

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<v Speaker 2>on how to make money by not making records.

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<v Speaker 7>It was I likened it to farm subsidies, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>where they would pay farmers to plow their crops under.

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<v Speaker 12>There you go.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep, So you did make another record.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we made another record on their our own auspices,

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<v Speaker 7>actually in the Hudson Valley. We made it with a

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<v Speaker 7>woodstock label in the early nineties. It was self funded

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<v Speaker 7>and it was really done the way I do music now,

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<v Speaker 7>which is because I have to and giving it away

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<v Speaker 7>out nearly nineties, did music business as we knew it,

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<v Speaker 7>and as I grew up in it was not the same.

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<v Speaker 11>So selling has never been the deal.

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<v Speaker 7>At this point, I have people who've heard what I've done,

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<v Speaker 7>who listen, and I make it for them, and I

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<v Speaker 7>make it so that my kid goes this is where

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<v Speaker 7>your grandfather's work really took shape.

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<v Speaker 5>So I guess we got to get on with the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of the show.

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<v Speaker 7>I Mercedes, thank you for inviting me. Everybody else please

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<v Speaker 7>thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, You're welcome to stay and make witty comments if

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<v Speaker 2>you like.

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<v Speaker 4>If you if you have pain, keep them under the radar.

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<v Speaker 11>Unless invited, I'll keep them under the radar. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 11>hang out and listen though sounds good.

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<v Speaker 3>The last thing I wanted to say is the album

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<v Speaker 3>Go to the Line by the night Caps. Every single

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<v Speaker 3>song is spectacular. If you ever happen to see it somewhere,

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<v Speaker 3>you should grab it because it is. Really every song

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<v Speaker 3>is amazing. Why are you laughing?

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<v Speaker 5>It's so true.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm laughing because you can buy it.

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<v Speaker 7>A Look, none of this goes to me because that

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<v Speaker 7>album will never recoup what they gave us and paid

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<v Speaker 7>us to go away.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, but you know, for your listening ears.

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<v Speaker 7>It's on Spotify, so if you want to help pay

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<v Speaker 7>a penny for each listen to the recoupment balance, you

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<v Speaker 7>can find it there.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Jane, are you playing out anywhere?

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<v Speaker 11>I have been?

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<v Speaker 7>I spent the last year playing a regular show here

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<v Speaker 7>in New York City on Saint Mark's Place with an

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<v Speaker 7>amalgamation of great New York City people that I've grown

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<v Speaker 7>to know.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh Titian style. The names.

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<v Speaker 7>I hesitate to start naming people because you will be

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<v Speaker 7>here too long, or I'll leave somebody out.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm a Julian.

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<v Speaker 7>My old brother from the Voidoids was one of the

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<v Speaker 7>people who played, as well as the people from the

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<v Speaker 7>Bush Tetras and Faith and what anyway, I don't want

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<v Speaker 7>to leave anybody out.

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<v Speaker 11>But this year it's about working on the record.

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<v Speaker 7>I seem to make every decade I'm working with Night

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<v Speaker 7>Bob look him up and Charlie Row and.

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<v Speaker 11>That's it. Focusing on the recording.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I forget. Is there a website or social media

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere we can get anything out for me?

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<v Speaker 11>No?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, no, I would highly recommend looking up Night Bob

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<v Speaker 7>Chaikowski's website.

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<v Speaker 11>He and Rich Neeson do a thing called not road

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<v Speaker 11>Diaries or something like that.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a beautiful show about from two guys who've grown

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<v Speaker 7>up there, who longer than we've been alive on the road.

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<v Speaker 11>With fans, and one of them is producing my new record.

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<v Speaker 2>So nice. So do you are you working in studio

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<v Speaker 2>or are you working from home mostly.

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<v Speaker 11>Or working right now?

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<v Speaker 7>We're working on There have been about because I only

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<v Speaker 7>make a record, say every ten years or so, I've

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<v Speaker 7>been working.

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<v Speaker 11>On excuse me.

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<v Speaker 7>I've been working on whittling down the list with the

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<v Speaker 7>assistance of the two guys I'm working with at the

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<v Speaker 7>production stage, and we're.

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<v Speaker 11>Whittling down the songs. My throat is dying questions, we're

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<v Speaker 11>whittling them.

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<v Speaker 7>We're whittling them down to a list of about ten

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<v Speaker 7>or so. We don't really believe that an album is

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<v Speaker 7>what you want to do right now. We just want

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<v Speaker 7>to and they all know the same thing. I'm giving

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<v Speaker 7>this away. I'm keeping all the rights. Anybody wants to

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<v Speaker 7>use it for anything like that, fine, but really everybody

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<v Speaker 7>involved those it's.

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<v Speaker 11>Being given away.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been doing the the uh mike for tell shows.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>You are amazing. You slay the audience. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 3>is breathtaking to see you sing well.

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<v Speaker 11>Mike gives me great songs.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And then that band Murderers Row Yeah, Charlie Roth, Danny DeVito,

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<v Speaker 7>got it, get again. I'm gonna lead people out like

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<v Speaker 7>ten people.

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<v Speaker 5>Dave Foster, Yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 11>Amazingam Speinberg.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't even name all of them, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>but you can't sound bad with that band.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And the song and the combination of the songs

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<v Speaker 3>that he picks.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, he takes.

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<v Speaker 3>He takes a year and gives everybody a song that

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<v Speaker 3>he thinks will fit them somehow. And Jim, what was

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<v Speaker 3>the list? What was the last couple of songs that

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<v Speaker 3>you did? They were Rainy Knight in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 11>Right, Oh, that was yeah, there is I do have

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<v Speaker 11>My daughter finally sent me a video of that. I

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<v Speaker 11>finally that was July. I've got it in January. But

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<v Speaker 11>that's what kids are for, and we did it. Sixty five,

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<v Speaker 11>sixty six, sixty.

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<v Speaker 7>Seven, sixty eight, sixty nine, seventy nineteen sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 11>I got to sing fire, which was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>That was mind blowing. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, okay, go on, folks and.

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<v Speaker 11>Down please we can do this later.

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<v Speaker 2>Ass again, as you're putting stuff out, come on back

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<v Speaker 2>and share it because I love the whole process. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the studio, the mixing, all the all the techie

450
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:55.920
<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes kind of stuff. So I'm in me too,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 7>Keith Richards had left everything about that out of his book,

453
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<v Speaker 7>kind of read it twice.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Okay, Also that's my song. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>You can vote later if you want on which.

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<v Speaker 3>Way it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say, given the age bracket, it's trying

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<v Speaker 2>so hard because some I don't know where I heard it.

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<v Speaker 2>But at that age when you think about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like like you have a one year high school relationship,

461
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<v Speaker 2>that is a much larger percentage of your life than

462
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<v Speaker 2>if you're fifty and you had a one year relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>and that much easier to get over. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to say it's pro and you're trying, you're figuring it out,

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<v Speaker 2>you're learning.

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<v Speaker 11>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be my vote.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, All right, cool, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a quick break and give Jan's

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<v Speaker 2>voice arrest and we're going to be back with Neil's pick.

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<v Speaker 2>So stick around. We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 8>This is Hudson River Radio dot Com. This concludes the

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<v Speaker 8>first part of this cassette.

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<v Speaker 2>Please turn the cassette over and begin again on side too.

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<v Speaker 12>Hudson Riverradio dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back. I don't think Neil is known for

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<v Speaker 2>being cupid, like so, I don't know which the rest.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Ay, he's gonna go. I beg to differ.

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<v Speaker 2>I will sit back and listen to everything you have

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<v Speaker 2>to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know if this will be a pro

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<v Speaker 4>or con either, so I'll I'll well, let's get into

483
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<v Speaker 4>it and you'll you'll see what I mean, because you know,

484
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<v Speaker 4>my reputation here on the Rock and Roll History Show

485
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<v Speaker 4>is the connoisseur of the obscure. And I think perhaps

486
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<v Speaker 4>so we got Mercedes and Jan here. I think they

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<v Speaker 4>might know the band in the song I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll find out because for my Valentine's Day song, I

489
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<v Speaker 4>went into the early days of New York City punk

490
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<v Speaker 4>rock for a band called The Fast and a song

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<v Speaker 4>called It's Like Love Now. The Fast were an American

492
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:15.519
<v Speaker 4>glam punk band that formed in New York City in

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<v Speaker 4>the mid nineteen seventies, and, while never reaching the commercial

494
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<v Speaker 4>heights of their contemporaries like the Ramones, Blondie or the

495
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<v Speaker 4>Talking Heads. They were an influential part of the CBGB

496
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<v Speaker 4>Maxis Kansas City scene when the New York City punk

497
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<v Speaker 4>scene was still in its infancy. The fast sound and

498
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<v Speaker 4>style blended nineteen sixties modpop with the use of synthesizer keyboards,

499
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<v Speaker 4>sort of what you might call bubblegum power pop before

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<v Speaker 4>the synthesizer would become a staple of what would soon

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<v Speaker 4>be called new wave. Formed by brothers Mickey Zone and

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<v Speaker 4>Mandy Zone, and later by a third brother, Paul Zone,

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<v Speaker 4>they were joined by pretty much a rotating cast of

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<v Speaker 4>musicians like so many bands, and they released their first single,

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<v Speaker 4>Boys Will Be Boys in nineteen seventy six, which also

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<v Speaker 4>appeared on an LP called Max's Kansas City nineteen seventy six,

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<v Speaker 4>which was produced by Peter Crowley, who just happened to

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<v Speaker 4>be the man who booked the bands at Max's at

509
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<v Speaker 4>the time. So a little marketing there, I think so,

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<v Speaker 4>And it was sort of Max's answer to the Live

511
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<v Speaker 4>at CBGB's album that had come out not too long

512
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<v Speaker 4>before that. Now, their second single, the song We're About

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<v Speaker 4>to Hear called It's Like Love, was released in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>seventy seven and produced by Richard Gotderer, who had been

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<v Speaker 4>a producer and a member of a band called The

516
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 4>Strangeloves in the nineteen sixties and their hit I Want

517
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<v Speaker 4>Candy was covered by Bow Wow Wow. In the nineteen eighties,

518
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 4>he'd also just produced Blondie's debut album, and he would

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<v Speaker 4>go on to work with the Go Gos as well.

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<v Speaker 4>And Oh, by the way, I did buy the single

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<v Speaker 4>when it came out, and yes I still have it.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's feel a love. It's like love by the fast.

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<v Speaker 12>Hurricane, blood drip for you while black, like an electric

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<v Speaker 12>sex canning shifting like you dinner thing when.

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<v Speaker 17>I did love me?

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<v Speaker 15>Yes to take what to take?

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<v Speaker 14>Maby made to say?

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<v Speaker 12>I can say it's.

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<v Speaker 17>Not makes feed like skirts may be as.

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<v Speaker 12>Sound, excuse me?

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<v Speaker 19>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 12>Can see.

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<v Speaker 10>With my name.

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<v Speaker 17>And like loud and loud and loud and like love

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<v Speaker 17>and like.

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<v Speaker 4>H yeah, so what thing pro? I think it's like

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<v Speaker 4>pro It's almost like a comic book or cartoon love song.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he can't take it too seriously when he's

539
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<v Speaker 4>wondering if it's her hairspray or mouthwash that turns him on,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and you can't get away with lyrics like

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<v Speaker 4>that anymore. Back then, I think you could.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and they did.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna say pro it's so cute and lighthearted it is,

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<v Speaker 8>and you know, kind of innocent love. It's just really sweet.

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<v Speaker 8>I really like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you haven't signed any documentation, it's a verbal agreement

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<v Speaker 2>at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>So well, around nineteen seventy eight or nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 4>while performing in Boston at a place called the Rat

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<v Speaker 4>Scaler or the Rat as they call it. It was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of Boston's equivalent to like CBGB's and incidentally the

552
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<v Speaker 4>same place I saw them play at around that same time,

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<v Speaker 4>So go figure, I went to Boston to see a

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<v Speaker 4>New York band. But that's how our run anyway. At

555
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<v Speaker 4>that time up there, they were spotted by rick O

556
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<v Speaker 4>Kasek of The Cars, who invited them to open for

557
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<v Speaker 4>The Cars at a big stadium show in Portland, Maine.

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<v Speaker 4>Shortly after that, he also decided to produce a record

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<v Speaker 4>for them at the famed Electric Lady Studios in New

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<v Speaker 4>York City, some of which wound up on their first

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<v Speaker 4>LP called The Fast for Sale that was released in

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty Now by nineteen eighty three, the band was

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<v Speaker 4>reduced to a duo and became known as Man to Man,

564
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<v Speaker 4>using keyboards, electronics and backing tapes, and they performed dance

565
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<v Speaker 4>music in some of New York City's larger dance clubs,

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<v Speaker 4>as well as venues throughout the UK, South America, and Mexico.

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<v Speaker 4>And the last thing I saw was that Paul's head

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<v Speaker 4>recorded a song that featured vocals by Debbie Harry of Blondie,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was called I'll Try Anything Once, and that

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<v Speaker 4>was back in two thousand and eight. But there it is.

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<v Speaker 11>I can add one thing to Paul zones bio.

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<v Speaker 7>Paul Zone has several published books of photography.

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<v Speaker 11>Excellent photographer.

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<v Speaker 4>Cool.

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<v Speaker 11>I know something, I knew all of them.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh please, you mentioned Peter Crowley, you mentioned Richard Gotta

577
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<v Speaker 7>or I don't even want to go on about the

578
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 7>connections with all of them that.

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<v Speaker 11>Are pertained to even the Nightcaps. But the guys in

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<v Speaker 11>the fast Mickey Zone was one of the great guitar players.

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<v Speaker 11>My only flaw, the only flaw in.

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<v Speaker 7>Those records is that he was he loved Pete Townsend

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<v Speaker 7>and he was like he would hang upside down.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, oh it's funny. You should mention that beare because

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<v Speaker 4>for the encore, the final song when I saw them,

586
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 4>they did a version of I Can See for Miles,

587
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<v Speaker 4>which knocked me out.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah. And he would hang upside down from the top

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00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:19.280
<v Speaker 11>of Marshall Stack with the back of his legs. Yes,

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<v Speaker 11>and I mean at Max's, not just like in big places.

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<v Speaker 11>At Max's all the time. They were like a house

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<v Speaker 11>band at Maxes.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, everybody needs a hobby.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved the fast. Thank you so much for playing

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<v Speaker 4>them my pleasure. I knew you would. I knew you

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00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:38.920
<v Speaker 4>would know them that. That's great. I'm so glad you

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00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:41.000
<v Speaker 4>were here to add that. That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'll set I don't want to step on anything, gotcha. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to vote for I'm going to vote pro.

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<v Speaker 15>S.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>So we've got two pros. Now, this we're what's we're slipped.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting sentimental in our old age.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>The first song I did for the Valentine my first

607
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<v Speaker 3>Valentine show on Remember Radio.

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<v Speaker 5>I used to love her, but I had to kill her.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, I remember. You've lightened up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you're taking you should share with us.

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<v Speaker 4>If I recall the first song I picked. I think

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00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:35.719
<v Speaker 4>it was Harry Nielsen and I said, you broke my heart,

613
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:37.079
<v Speaker 4>you tore it apart, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You yeah, there was there was some editing that had

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<v Speaker 2>to be done.

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00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I remember that one too, So yeah, there

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<v Speaker 4>has been a shift here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, lightening up, a little early dementia whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just we're getting soft and we are we are

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Thank you, Neil. That was a good one.

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<v Speaker 9>John brough to you, Okay, I would think my selection

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<v Speaker 9>tonight obviously is eleanor Rigby by the Beatles nineteen sixty six,

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<v Speaker 9>and no, not the Alice Cooper version.

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<v Speaker 12>And.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, yeah, I picked up on that one. I figured, no,

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<v Speaker 9>I think I'm just gonna go with the original. But

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<v Speaker 9>I would say this is not a pro Valentine's Day song,

628
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<v Speaker 9>and I'd like to know what my fellow cranbones think

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<v Speaker 9>of that. It's when you think about it, like the

630
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<v Speaker 9>average person, not the music file, the average person drive

631
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<v Speaker 9>it down the road and listen on the radio, doesn't

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<v Speaker 9>even I think, pay attention to the lyrics. And I've

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<v Speaker 9>talked a lot about that whole idea in a lot

634
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<v Speaker 9>of my selections over the years.

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<v Speaker 20>Here at Hudson River Radio.

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<v Speaker 9>And so when you're kind of tapping along, you don't

637
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<v Speaker 9>realize this is a very depressing song. It is a

638
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<v Speaker 9>very it is you know, I'm I've seen some headshakings here, Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 20>And you know, for one, you know what is this

640
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<v Speaker 20>song focused on.

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<v Speaker 9>It focuses on universal loneliness, unseen lives, dying alone, spiritual emptiness.

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<v Speaker 9>So I gotta say, I'm gonna do Hudson River Radio

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<v Speaker 9>a solid here, and I am going to bring this

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<v Speaker 9>right down into the depression.

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<v Speaker 20>And with that, Brian, why don't we just play the song.

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<v Speaker 11>Ella?

647
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<v Speaker 12>Except the horizon.

648
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:44.960
<v Speaker 2>You judge where a wedding is being It's in a dream.

649
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<v Speaker 7>Wait's at the window wearing the face that he keeps.

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<v Speaker 15>In a job by the dog. Who is it fall?

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<v Speaker 12>All the lonely dude, they all come from, all the

652
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<v Speaker 12>lonely people.

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<v Speaker 14>Why do they all be loved?

654
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<v Speaker 2>Father McKenzie writing the words.

655
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<v Speaker 15>Of the sermon that no one will hear, no one

656
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 15>comes near.

657
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 19>Look at him working dunning his socks in the night

658
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 19>when there's nobody there.

659
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Speaker 14>What does he care?

660
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:27.760
<v Speaker 12>All the lonely people?

661
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:30.599
<v Speaker 11>Why do they all come?

662
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:34.679
<v Speaker 4>All the lovely people?

663
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.239
<v Speaker 19>But do they be love.

664
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:43.360
<v Speaker 14>At all the lovely people.

665
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.199
<v Speaker 12>Ah got all the love lead people.

666
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:57.840
<v Speaker 21>Elen Brigby died in the church and was married alone

667
00:42:57.960 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 21>with her name.

668
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 12>When he came McKenzie winding the dame from his hands

669
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:07.400
<v Speaker 12>as he watched from the grave.

670
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Hey, that was Eleanor Rigby.

671
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:28.639
<v Speaker 9>Obviously at the Beatles, Paul McCartney has the inspiration, said

672
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 9>he was inspired by a lot of the lonely people

673
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.480
<v Speaker 9>he had known, creating fictional characters to explore their solitude.

674
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.159
<v Speaker 9>I think you can't get more lonely than that when

675
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 9>you think about it. One interesting fact about the song.

676
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:43.760
<v Speaker 9>In Liverpool there is a grave for Eleanor Rigby, and

677
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.760
<v Speaker 9>nearby there is somebody by the name of Mackenzie, and

678
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:51.719
<v Speaker 9>Paul McCartney said he did not know that about those

679
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.920
<v Speaker 9>headstones in that cemetery in Liverpool at the time of

680
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:59.000
<v Speaker 9>the song's writing. He said, the idea to call his

681
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:03.360
<v Speaker 9>character Eleanor's possibly because of Eleanor Braun, the actress who

682
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 9>starred with the Beatles in their nineteen sixty five film

683
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 9>Help and Rigby, came from this from the name of

684
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.679
<v Speaker 9>a store in Bristol. In Bristol, Rigby and Evans limited,

685
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 9>so interesting little backstory there. I don't know a lot

686
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:18.679
<v Speaker 9>of the details then some of the other people on

687
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:22.079
<v Speaker 9>this cast, but I know there's been a lot of other.

688
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 10>Versions of the song and it's but if you want

689
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:27.960
<v Speaker 10>a song that is not a.

690
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.800
<v Speaker 20>Happy song, this is definitely it.

691
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 9>But when you listen to the beat, when you listen

692
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 9>to the music, and I am not a music file,

693
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:39.719
<v Speaker 9>it doesn't sound depressing. It sounds happy, you know, and

694
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.119
<v Speaker 9>you're tapping along and you're listening. But then you listen

695
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.599
<v Speaker 9>to the lyrics and you study the meeting, I'm like,

696
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:48.320
<v Speaker 9>damn me with some very lonely people, and I'll.

697
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:48.679
<v Speaker 4>Leave it at that.

698
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Wow and couch. Something about the song the Beatles in general.

699
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 2>There were people at EMI that complained about this rock

700
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and roll nonsense. Yeah, And the rock and roll nonsense

701
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>is what funded the classical music side of EMI's business.

702
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 2>And then they used strings on eleanor rigby the classical

703
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:14.079
<v Speaker 2>players that were being subsidized by the Beatles to pay

704
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:14.360
<v Speaker 2>for that.

705
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:17.119
<v Speaker 20>We did a show, Brian, didn't.

706
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:20.000
<v Speaker 9>We did a show Brian recently that that discussed the

707
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 9>whole theme of classical impl Yeah, classical music in rock.

708
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:24.840
<v Speaker 20>We talked about Beethoven.

709
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 9>When you think about this, I mean there's a lot

710
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 9>of classical in here, you know, and you know the

711
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.639
<v Speaker 9>tempo had For me it sounded a lot like almost

712
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:34.920
<v Speaker 9>like a little bit of Mozart in a lot of ways,

713
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.719
<v Speaker 9>just the way that earlier like a baroque yea or whatever,

714
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:43.639
<v Speaker 9>you know, with the tempo with the violins exactly it uh,

715
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:45.559
<v Speaker 9>it just it really expresses that.

716
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:47.880
<v Speaker 10>So I'm glad I was able to bring the show

717
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:49.960
<v Speaker 10>in Valentine's Day right down.

718
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so that's too, Yes, one squarely no, Yeah, all right,

719
00:45:57.840 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Barber's up next. I have a gut feeling I know

720
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:01.159
<v Speaker 2>which direction she's gonna go.

721
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 5>Well, let's see, we're going down, all right.

722
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, the song I picked, I'm pretty sure you're all

723
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna know the direction we're going. It's called I'm So

724
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Sick of You.

725
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:18.199
<v Speaker 5>And it's We're We're well.

726
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I chose it is because Valentine's Day

727
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>may not necessarily be a happy holiday for everyone. As

728
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:33.880
<v Speaker 1>for me personally, my parents were married on Valentine's Day

729
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty and after my father passed at just

730
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:41.119
<v Speaker 1>fifty six years old, my mom would always pay tribute

731
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>to him on Valentine's Day by making sure that she

732
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 1>would give my brother and I was candy and we

733
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:51.119
<v Speaker 1>would have her own little quiet celebration. She did this

734
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>every year for the rest of her life. So Valentine's

735
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Day has since been pretty much bittersweet for me. And

736
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:03.199
<v Speaker 1>also how many of us have been in bad relationships?

737
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:09.000
<v Speaker 4>Never?

738
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.519
<v Speaker 1>No, no, So I think I think nearly all of

739
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>us have at least once, and listenings at least and

740
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.840
<v Speaker 1>listening to the lyrics in the song I'm So sick

741
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 1>of you? Uh you think that he's singing about one

742
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:30.960
<v Speaker 1>doozy of a bad relationship. So a little bit about

743
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>weird Al because we've done an entire show about weird

744
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Al and played a number of his songs before. So

745
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure our listeners and especially my fellow Crimbones may

746
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 1>remember some basic facts about weird Al. Let's see. Let's

747
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.440
<v Speaker 1>see what you remember now. He was born Alfred Matthew

748
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Yakovic nineteen fifty nine in what Stayed Everybody, California, Really California.

749
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, never mind, he's going on. He's extending his tour

750
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:00.239
<v Speaker 2>from last year to where we saw him. Actually Harbor

751
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:02.840
<v Speaker 2>saw him too. You saw him and then we went

752
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:07.079
<v Speaker 2>up to Saratoga to see him, so highly recommended.

753
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend it. It was one of the best

754
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Speaker 1>concerts I've ever seen, and it was it was a

755
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:17.039
<v Speaker 1>place where everybody in the audience was just as weird

756
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>as I am. Nice and it felt like coming home.

757
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:22.639
<v Speaker 2>I we got we got there, We got into the

758
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 2>parking lot, and I changed into my ridiculous Hawaiian shirt

759
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.119
<v Speaker 2>that I keep just for that occasion, and my daughter

760
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:33.559
<v Speaker 2>was so embarrassed until she looked around and everybody else

761
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:37.400
<v Speaker 2>changing into their Hawaiian shirts, and then realized that I

762
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 2>am in the crowd.

763
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:45.360
<v Speaker 1>You have not succeeded until you've embarrassed your child. Perfect perfect, Okay,

764
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:48.800
<v Speaker 1>so weird. Al is known for his comedy music, his

765
00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:53.599
<v Speaker 1>comedy songs which are parodies, and also he's done original

766
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 1>works and also does anybody know what other kind of

767
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:05.480
<v Speaker 1>music is famous for polka songs. He's known for his trademark,

768
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:10.840
<v Speaker 1>which instrument accordian accordians all right, and who remembers how

769
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>he came about acquiring said accordions.

770
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Salesman knocked at the door selling accordions and guitars, and

771
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:19.320
<v Speaker 2>the parents chose an accordion because they.

772
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Thought it was more rock and roll than the guitar

773
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:28.400
<v Speaker 1>blows me away every time. So does anybody remember.

774
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.920
<v Speaker 2>How he got his start Doctor Demento?

775
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Demento At the age of sixteen in nineteen seventy six,

776
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:39.400
<v Speaker 1>he I think Doctor Demento showed up at his high

777
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:43.840
<v Speaker 1>school and he managed to slip him the tape. Does

778
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:45.800
<v Speaker 1>anybody know the song that he said that he gave

779
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:52.119
<v Speaker 1>to doctor very That comes a little later, though, I'm close,

780
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:54.440
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll get to that the very you just

781
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:58.400
<v Speaker 1>answered another question though. The song was Bilvidere Cruising, written

782
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 1>about his family's car, am Belvedere. In nineteen seventy nine,

783
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 1>while attending college and working at the university radio station,

784
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Al went to the restroom across the hall from said

785
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:16.159
<v Speaker 1>radio station because it had great acoustics, and recorded the

786
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:23.119
<v Speaker 1>parody titled My Ballogna. He sent the recording to Doctor

787
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Demento and it led to Capitol Records, giving Yankovic a

788
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:31.440
<v Speaker 1>six month recording contract. It was then that weird Al

789
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 1>thought maybe he should ditch his major. Anybody know what

790
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:36.480
<v Speaker 1>his major was in college?

791
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Architecture?

792
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:38.639
<v Speaker 1>Architecture?

793
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Very good Goldstein, you have a fan here, so I.

794
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Am always ready for pop quizes, because after what I

795
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:49.519
<v Speaker 2>do to all of you, I know it's coming at.

796
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Some points exactly exactly. So I figured instead of just

797
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:56.320
<v Speaker 1>writing down the same facts that we've all heard time

798
00:50:56.360 --> 00:51:00.559
<v Speaker 1>and time again, I figured I just quizzed everybody. So

799
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:04.199
<v Speaker 1>it was at this time that word all thought, Hey, baby,

800
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:08.159
<v Speaker 1>I should ditch architecture as my major and pursue a

801
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:12.599
<v Speaker 1>career in music, which brings us to our Valentine's song

802
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm So Sick of You, released in nineteen ninety six

803
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:19.039
<v Speaker 1>on the album Bad Hair Day.

804
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:24.039
<v Speaker 16>You tell Joel Gamble gimp on fine why you always

805
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 16>rested my time?

806
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:29.960
<v Speaker 12>Hey baby, trust me, you just discuss me. Your hands

807
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:31.920
<v Speaker 12>a mess and you'll make up crusted.

808
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 16>I don't know too many females. You make a habit

809
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 16>of biting the toenails. Who every time you call you

810
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.679
<v Speaker 16>tell me of the walk on it just the side

811
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:46.360
<v Speaker 16>of the leagues on this gla shall we be heaving together?

812
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:47.320
<v Speaker 12>Him?

813
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Only one little they weren't you?

814
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.800
<v Speaker 12>Baby? I don't say to you.

815
00:51:56.119 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 16>You make a mail grand room. Godd are you keeping

816
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:01.599
<v Speaker 16>your god?

817
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:07.320
<v Speaker 12>You belcher everywhere thousand of the earth, you are raising

818
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:08.760
<v Speaker 12>a shake a bad dad.

819
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.719
<v Speaker 16>You don't have announce the plast You're just the one thing.

820
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:16.159
<v Speaker 12>Pean of the neck. How much walk can I take?

821
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:19.559
<v Speaker 16>Naw, give me a break now, dude, even snow away

822
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:20.599
<v Speaker 16>you're wide away.

823
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 12>Now you tell like a friends where the bird become? Well,

824
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:29.599
<v Speaker 12>maybe you should get up on. Maybe I have a

825
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:36.519
<v Speaker 12>second you maybe syne so sing of you?

826
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.199
<v Speaker 16>And when you're something, oh my name, it's like I'm

827
00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:42.320
<v Speaker 16>listening to what's meet me?

828
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:43.320
<v Speaker 12>Chuck sound?

829
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:47.119
<v Speaker 16>And when you're looking at me in that special way,

830
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:49.280
<v Speaker 16>it's how A mean? And keep my dunchdown.

831
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.880
<v Speaker 12>And when you ask me what I'm thinking, honey, usually

832
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:54.800
<v Speaker 12>I'm thinking.

833
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:56.000
<v Speaker 21>How I really like Anya?

834
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 12>And completely I've been dunking for I wouldn't have to

835
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.559
<v Speaker 12>listen to you. Welcome those two quid questions.

836
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 14>Over and over.

837
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:10.320
<v Speaker 16>Guys, We'll let discuss the noise you make when you laugh,

838
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:11.079
<v Speaker 16>kift being.

839
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:14.239
<v Speaker 12>Robbing my grains? That just my chas dance.

840
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:15.239
<v Speaker 5>Dance until you came up.

841
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 12>I'm not devidated anyone that's low on.

842
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:20.119
<v Speaker 20>The food chance and my just dance.

843
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 12>And you got a hum in anybody? Oh there, you

844
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.840
<v Speaker 12>got the hair of a bus of promoter. Get your

845
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:30.239
<v Speaker 12>teas or yellow your buzz made of yellow. You wake

846
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.519
<v Speaker 12>up in a bottle doing on your bill.

847
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:35.239
<v Speaker 16>I hain't no way you crack your knuckles.

848
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 17>I hate your whin you cercle. Friends to the well,

849
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:42.320
<v Speaker 17>say ay, so second you.

850
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:44.199
<v Speaker 12>Really?

851
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 14>Now you're recodating, I'm.

852
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 17>So second you.

853
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:51.440
<v Speaker 12>Not you irritated?

854
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.480
<v Speaker 14>My ay, I'm so second you?

855
00:53:55.159 --> 00:54:00.719
<v Speaker 12>Well, I want to get there, gonna sayne I'm so you.

856
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'm sound sick of you is a parody

857
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:32.920
<v Speaker 1>of the style of Elvis Costello, particularly the song's radio

858
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:36.559
<v Speaker 1>radio no Action and pump it Up. This was confirmed

859
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:40.199
<v Speaker 1>by Yankovic in a nineteen ninety nine interview and did

860
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:43.960
<v Speaker 1>anyone catch the mind rhyme contained in the song? Anyone

861
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:45.679
<v Speaker 1>know what a mind rhyme is? I know, I talked

862
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:48.000
<v Speaker 1>about it before. It's when you hear a line in

863
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:50.719
<v Speaker 1>a song or poem and expect the next line to

864
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:58.280
<v Speaker 1>contain but it doesn't, And it's This is usually used

865
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to fool the listener and to expect things to hear color,

866
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>colorful language, and then going in a different direction. I

867
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:06.519
<v Speaker 1>did a whole episode of shaving cream on mine rhymes

868
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.480
<v Speaker 1>if you want to hear more? And yes, SE's absolutely right.

869
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Miss Susie had Steamboat miss Less, Miss Lucy.

870
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:15.480
<v Speaker 8>I mentioned it.

871
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:16.039
<v Speaker 12>I didn't.

872
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:21.719
<v Speaker 11>I didn't play it, but I mentioned, yeah, I used

873
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:25.920
<v Speaker 11>to do that, right, Patty song. Yeah, yep, the Handsler.

874
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.360
<v Speaker 1>So the mind rhyme, like you said, is found in

875
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:31.199
<v Speaker 1>the lines. You don't have an ounce of class. You're

876
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:35.280
<v Speaker 1>just one big pain in the neck. And I'd like

877
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.519
<v Speaker 1>to close by saying that, as of twenty twenty five,

878
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Yankovic has sold more than twelve million albums, recorded over

879
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty parties and original songs, and performed

880
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:49.440
<v Speaker 1>over two thousand live shows. And he's still going. And

881
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.400
<v Speaker 1>when we were given this topic, this is the song

882
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:54.599
<v Speaker 1>that immediately came to mind.

883
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Nice Nice. He sold out Madison Square Garden and he

884
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:03.480
<v Speaker 2>was just blown away himself, you know which, none of

885
00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:06.159
<v Speaker 2>us are surprised. And there are a group of us

886
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:07.960
<v Speaker 2>that I'm sure Barber's in that would love to see

887
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:11.679
<v Speaker 2>him do the super Bowl halftime show. Oh god, there

888
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 2>have been petitions to get Weird Alt to do that,

889
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:14.840
<v Speaker 2>and he said he would do.

890
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:19.280
<v Speaker 20>It, really yes, but oh my god, that would be wonderful.

891
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Right it.

892
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:24.679
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, So maybe I got to thank you for playing this.

893
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:27.440
<v Speaker 11>I would never have sought this out and this song.

894
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:33.000
<v Speaker 11>I love this song. I'm like going to go find

895
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:36.320
<v Speaker 11>it and download it right now. I mean, by a

896
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:37.639
<v Speaker 11>copy of it right now.

897
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:42.519
<v Speaker 4>I was trying to make a list of how many

898
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:46.000
<v Speaker 4>times I would have sung that to someone else and

899
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:49.320
<v Speaker 4>how many times it would have been sung to me.

900
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:56.320
<v Speaker 4>But I think the latter has has a higher really.

901
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Because when I listened to that song, I try to

902
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:00.199
<v Speaker 1>pick out all the things he's complaining about that I'm

903
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:01.320
<v Speaker 1>actually guilty of doing.

904
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:06.280
<v Speaker 4>Well. I draw the line at that at biting your tone.

905
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:06.880
<v Speaker 12>No, I don't.

906
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:08.199
<v Speaker 4>I don't. I don't.

907
00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to shave any back hair, and I

908
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:15.960
<v Speaker 1>don't bite my toenails. That's all I'm saying.

909
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:18.440
<v Speaker 5>I'd love to be able to bite my toenails.

910
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:22.000
<v Speaker 11>As the kids say, I'm going to go with six

911
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:22.920
<v Speaker 11>seven on that.

912
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:27.639
<v Speaker 1>I paid too much money for my invisil lines to

913
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:28.679
<v Speaker 1>bite my toenails.

914
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:33.039
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I don't think I can. I'm not that, you know.

915
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:34.800
<v Speaker 11>Okay, that's.

916
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not that limber either.

917
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:44.480
<v Speaker 5>Well, that's what I was getting at. It would be

918
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:45.960
<v Speaker 5>it would be quite a feat.

919
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing some barber march. I paid too much for

920
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:53.000
<v Speaker 2>my visile line to bite my toenails. Tell me that

921
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:54.320
<v Speaker 2>doesn't belong on a T shirt.

922
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:00.920
<v Speaker 11>Oh boy, thanks last my day?

923
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:07.239
<v Speaker 2>All right, thank you, Barbara excellent. Yeah, I know he extended.

924
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:10.440
<v Speaker 2>It's technically the same tour as last year, so I

925
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:12.360
<v Speaker 2>know the dates are posted. I don't know if I'm

926
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna be able to make it again this year, but

927
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:16.199
<v Speaker 2>if you haven't seen him live, it's totally worth it.

928
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.599
<v Speaker 2>This time, he's got an expanded band. It's the same

929
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:21.920
<v Speaker 2>core band that he's played with since day one, but

930
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:25.360
<v Speaker 2>he's added more musicians. He's doing the costume changes, all

931
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:27.119
<v Speaker 2>the hits, so some of the deep cuts like this,

932
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:30.239
<v Speaker 2>totally worth it. And we're not even being sponsored to

933
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:33.960
<v Speaker 2>say that. So and I have a Hawaiian shirt if

934
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.920
<v Speaker 2>you need to borrow it. So with everybody else, all right,

935
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:39.800
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna take a second, real quick break, and we've

936
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:43.119
<v Speaker 2>got two more to go, So stick around Hudson Riverradio

937
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:43.880
<v Speaker 2>dot com.

938
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:53.840
<v Speaker 11>Your dad likes us, Hudson River Radio dot com.

939
00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:57.280
<v Speaker 2>All right, two more Valentine selections to go. We're up

940
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:04.639
<v Speaker 2>to Gail, and I'm gonna guess Anti before we even start.

941
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:11.079
<v Speaker 8>What makes you say that we've met several years?

942
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, color me surprised.

943
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just going to cast my vote before we

944
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:17.119
<v Speaker 2>even start.

945
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:25.480
<v Speaker 8>But well, I think this is neutral or something. I

946
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:30.400
<v Speaker 8>think it's meant to be pro. But I think it's neutral.

947
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:32.719
<v Speaker 5>This will will be will be the judge of that.

948
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:36.719
<v Speaker 8>Hey, this this song did not chart. It's not on

949
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:42.519
<v Speaker 8>a record label. I was looking for various and sundry

950
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 8>different sort of topics within this topic and I couldn't

951
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:53.159
<v Speaker 8>find anything that fit what I was looking for. And

952
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:57.599
<v Speaker 8>when I saw the first line of this song in

953
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:02.800
<v Speaker 8>my Google search, I I had to use ish because

954
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:05.360
<v Speaker 8>the name of the song and the first line is

955
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:09.239
<v Speaker 8>if our love was some swamp gas, it would make

956
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 8>a sweet sound.

957
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:13.440
<v Speaker 2>That's deep.

958
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:20.320
<v Speaker 8>The singer songwriter is Brian Odin, and he started writing

959
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:23.079
<v Speaker 8>songs when he was a kid growing up in Oklahoma

960
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:27.840
<v Speaker 8>and spending his summers in the Colorado Mountains. Some songs

961
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:31.320
<v Speaker 8>were funny and others were straight from the heart. He said,

962
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:33.719
<v Speaker 8>none of them were very good, but that process of

963
01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:37.679
<v Speaker 8>being in a created creative move and writing a funny song,

964
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:40.320
<v Speaker 8>and also of walking in the woods and having a

965
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:43.840
<v Speaker 8>real heart song come to me that has never really

966
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 8>gone away.

967
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:45.559
<v Speaker 7>Now.

968
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:50.320
<v Speaker 8>He has been all kinds of different things.

969
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 4>For a day job.

970
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:56.159
<v Speaker 8>Over the years he's been he was spent four years

971
01:00:56.199 --> 01:01:00.719
<v Speaker 8>as a childcare counselor and supervisor at a treatment center

972
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:04.840
<v Speaker 8>for children. He taught English as a second language at

973
01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:08.800
<v Speaker 8>the college level. He was at one point a self

974
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:14.119
<v Speaker 8>employed internet entrepreneur. He also earned a master's degree in

975
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:19.039
<v Speaker 8>educational psychology with an emphasis on teaching English as a

976
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:25.559
<v Speaker 8>second language. His focus on recording and sharing his mostly

977
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:30.159
<v Speaker 8>children's songs is a recent development. He says, Once in

978
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:33.679
<v Speaker 8>a while, I would sing songs at family or social gatherings,

979
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.119
<v Speaker 8>and I had a few concerts here and there, but

980
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:40.320
<v Speaker 8>that was about it. I've always loved writing and sharing songs,

981
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:43.639
<v Speaker 8>but it never seemed like a realistic way to pay

982
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:47.440
<v Speaker 8>the bills, so it was always in the background. He

983
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:50.920
<v Speaker 8>started putting his songs on YouTube in January two thousand

984
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:55.840
<v Speaker 8>and nine. His YouTube channel now has over sixty million

985
01:01:56.480 --> 01:02:02.079
<v Speaker 8>video views. Wow, he said, I hope to keep writing

986
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:06.239
<v Speaker 8>and recording more songs. I really enjoy creating and sharing

987
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:09.159
<v Speaker 8>both kinds of songs, the fun ones and the ones

988
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:11.920
<v Speaker 8>that come from a deeper place. And it's been a

989
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:14.639
<v Speaker 8>nice surprise to me that based on the comments on

990
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:18.440
<v Speaker 8>YouTube and on my site, he has his own website.

991
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:21.800
<v Speaker 8>Some of the songs I think of as just light

992
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:26.599
<v Speaker 8>fun are sometimes really They sometimes really change someone's mood

993
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:30.760
<v Speaker 8>or even get them through a really difficult time. That

994
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:33.840
<v Speaker 8>kind of thing has been a really nice surprise and

995
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:38.119
<v Speaker 8>definitely makes song drops. That's another one of the sites,

996
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:43.840
<v Speaker 8>besides YouTube, more rewarding for me. So in terms of

997
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:47.159
<v Speaker 8>future plans, hopefully I'll be fortunate enough to keep on

998
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:52.320
<v Speaker 8>creating and recording and sharing songs. Now, you might want

999
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.360
<v Speaker 8>to listen to these lyrics as carefully as you can.

1000
01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:01.320
<v Speaker 8>I'll mention the first verse. This came out in twenty

1001
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:04.960
<v Speaker 8>twenty three. If our love was some swampcass, it would

1002
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:08.400
<v Speaker 8>make a sweet sound. If our love was a skunk bush,

1003
01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:11.400
<v Speaker 8>it would stay on the ground. If our love was

1004
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:14.800
<v Speaker 8>a camel, it wouldn't much fish. If our love was

1005
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:19.920
<v Speaker 8>an outhouse, it would smell like a barbecue pit. Speaking

1006
01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:20.639
<v Speaker 8>speaking of.

1007
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Mind, oh, I thought you were gonna give us a

1008
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:23.840
<v Speaker 1>wine rise.

1009
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:28.719
<v Speaker 8>I wrote this sweet love song special for you since

1010
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:32.000
<v Speaker 8>I forgot your birthday. It's the least I can do.

1011
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:36.239
<v Speaker 8>And the other verses are very much like this, so

1012
01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:39.440
<v Speaker 8>let's give it a listen. I just think it's cute

1013
01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:40.039
<v Speaker 8>and funny.

1014
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:43.639
<v Speaker 6>I was some swampcass, it would make those sweet sound.

1015
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Hipper was a skunk, but give it.

1016
01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:47.079
<v Speaker 12>A on the ground.

1017
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:53.360
<v Speaker 6>Hipper Love was a camel, much hipper s would smell

1018
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:58.920
<v Speaker 6>like a barbie. I wrote this sweet love song special

1019
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:01.880
<v Speaker 6>you since I forg got your birthdays.

1020
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:03.320
<v Speaker 7>But bease tick to the dude.

1021
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:09.519
<v Speaker 6>I love you as far as a jerkey can die.

1022
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:11.079
<v Speaker 17>I love you as.

1023
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:13.079
<v Speaker 6>Long as a lizard stays dry.

1024
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:16.519
<v Speaker 14>I love you as strong as a turtle can swim.

1025
01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:20.000
<v Speaker 6>I love you as deep as the doo doo live man.

1026
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:26.079
<v Speaker 6>If I Love was a cockroach could jump really high.

1027
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:28.920
<v Speaker 6>If I Love was a mushroom, it would be a

1028
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.840
<v Speaker 6>fun guy. If I Love was bread food and it

1029
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:35.280
<v Speaker 6>would hardly have bolt. If for love wasn't a house,

1030
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:39.039
<v Speaker 6>it would be made of gold. I wrote this sweet

1031
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:42.320
<v Speaker 6>love song special for you next time.

1032
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:44.559
<v Speaker 12>I love this your brand new herty.

1033
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:49.159
<v Speaker 6>I love you as far as a jerkey can die.

1034
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:52.719
<v Speaker 6>I love you as long as a lizard stays dry.

1035
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:56.119
<v Speaker 6>I love you as strong as a turtle can swim.

1036
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:59.519
<v Speaker 6>I love you as deep as the doo Doo live man.

1037
01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:05.599
<v Speaker 6>If A Love was a chicken, they would have forty weeds.

1038
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:08.679
<v Speaker 6>If a load was a cow pie, it would make noses.

1039
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:11.519
<v Speaker 6>See if our love was a trash, Nope, it would

1040
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:14.559
<v Speaker 6>have no dead knife. If a load was an out house,

1041
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:18.320
<v Speaker 6>it would have no horse flies. I wrote this sweet

1042
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:19.199
<v Speaker 6>love song.

1043
01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:22.079
<v Speaker 12>Special for you. I think I must spelled your name

1044
01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:23.880
<v Speaker 12>on my dooming tattoos.

1045
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:29.880
<v Speaker 6>Good A long you as far as a turkey can find,

1046
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:33.360
<v Speaker 6>A long you, as long as a bizards. These drive

1047
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:36.679
<v Speaker 6>among you less strong as a turtle and swim.

1048
01:05:37.159 --> 01:05:39.280
<v Speaker 15>I love you as deep as a doot.

1049
01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:45.039
<v Speaker 6>I mean, if a love was a camel, they would

1050
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:48.079
<v Speaker 6>have much pits. If a log wasn't out house, it

1051
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:48.960
<v Speaker 6>was spelled.

1052
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:49.760
<v Speaker 14>Like a barber.

1053
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:50.480
<v Speaker 11>You bit.

1054
01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:56.039
<v Speaker 6>I wrote this sweet love song special for you. Don't

1055
01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:59.840
<v Speaker 6>think me, just make me more corn bread and stud.

1056
01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:14.079
<v Speaker 20>That was that was great, off off.

1057
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:17.679
<v Speaker 8>I saw those lyrics and I just had to pick

1058
01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:18.119
<v Speaker 8>this one.

1059
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.599
<v Speaker 2>I think there needs to be more songs about skunk butts.

1060
01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now you see I think this I think was

1061
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:28.480
<v Speaker 4>This was definitely a positive song.

1062
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:32.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a curveball. I think it's completely positive.

1063
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:41.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, he went, guy, he went, he went,

1064
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, in college and higher education to write this stuff? Right?

1065
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:46.039
<v Speaker 11>Was that?

1066
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:52.199
<v Speaker 4>Thank you? Just checking, just checking so I think.

1067
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:54.079
<v Speaker 5>His voice.

1068
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:57.760
<v Speaker 8>No, I don't think so. I don't know whose voice

1069
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:01.639
<v Speaker 8>that is. But it was very funny.

1070
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:02.400
<v Speaker 5>It was great.

1071
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:04.440
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it sounds like it was sped up.

1072
01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, little wizard. So that was cute.

1073
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:12.079
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna be running around singing that at work, which

1074
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:18.000
<v Speaker 8>please please make my colleagues wonder about me even more

1075
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:18.920
<v Speaker 8>than they already.

1076
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:23.960
<v Speaker 11>And I even certed it into my year, So thank you.

1077
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.599
<v Speaker 2>You're going to add it to the setlist next time around.

1078
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:33.960
<v Speaker 8>Yes, I love it.

1079
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, write down, I love it?

1080
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 4>Got it.

1081
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<v Speaker 2>Excellent? All right? Thanks Gil.

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<v Speaker 8>So that that's the kind of counteract eleanor h Yeah,

1083
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:47.360
<v Speaker 8>a palette cleanser.

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01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:50.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, overall, we only have one negative so far,

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01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:52.679
<v Speaker 2>we're all going soft.

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01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:57.199
<v Speaker 7>I always I'm gonna say, I always thought Eleanor Maybe

1087
01:07:57.280 --> 01:08:00.480
<v Speaker 7>it's just my optimistic streak, but I always thought the

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01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:03.960
<v Speaker 7>people in eleanor Rigby were pining for lost love.

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01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:07.199
<v Speaker 11>You know, that they had actually had great love.

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01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:11.280
<v Speaker 7>And I kind of always took it as a you know,

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01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:15.119
<v Speaker 7>that loneliness rather than the loneliness.

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01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:18.760
<v Speaker 11>Of complete isolation. But that just might be my you know,

1093
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:19.760
<v Speaker 11>my prism.

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01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:23.119
<v Speaker 9>No, I think I like that whole whole theme because

1095
01:08:23.119 --> 01:08:25.279
<v Speaker 9>they're kind of pining for the past in a lot

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01:08:25.319 --> 01:08:25.640
<v Speaker 9>of ways.

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01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:29.720
<v Speaker 4>I agree, Yeah, you can't know that. You can't know

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01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:34.279
<v Speaker 4>loneliness if you haven't experienced you know, love love.

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01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:38.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so yeah, I guess I always assumed a backstory

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01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:39.359
<v Speaker 7>for each of these people.

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01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:41.079
<v Speaker 11>You know.

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01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:41.840
<v Speaker 7>That's it.

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01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:45.079
<v Speaker 11>But I loved hearing it. It's always good to hear

1104
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:48.680
<v Speaker 11>that song. And that version where they striped Jath back

1105
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:50.479
<v Speaker 11>to the strings is really nice to hear.

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01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Very cool. All Right, we got one more to go.

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01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:56.720
<v Speaker 11>Wait?

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01:08:56.920 --> 01:08:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Is it going to balance out the voting? Is it

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01:08:59.199 --> 01:08:59.560
<v Speaker 2>going to go?

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01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:00.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't think it can.

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01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:04.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that's true. I don't think it can.

1112
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:08.439
<v Speaker 2>I honestly think mine could go either way. And I

1113
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:11.319
<v Speaker 2>think it's kind of age based and it depends on

1114
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:14.359
<v Speaker 2>the story that not a whole lot of people go.

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01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:17.039
<v Speaker 2>So take a walk with me, if you would. My

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01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:20.119
<v Speaker 2>song is called Into the Night by Benny Mardonez. You

1117
01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:22.960
<v Speaker 2>may or may not have heard it. We'll do a

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01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:26.239
<v Speaker 2>real quick bio on Benny. He was born Ruben armand

1119
01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:30.439
<v Speaker 2>Mardonas in nineteen forty six in Cleveland. His father abandoned

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01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the family when Benny was an infant and returned to

1121
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:36.720
<v Speaker 2>his native Chile. Benny grew up in Maryland, graduating high

1122
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:39.279
<v Speaker 2>school in nineteen sixty four and a listing in the

1123
01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:43.279
<v Speaker 2>US Navy. He served in Vietnam. After being discharged, he

1124
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:46.199
<v Speaker 2>moved to New York City to pursue a singer songwriter

1125
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:49.680
<v Speaker 2>career and wound up writing songs for people like Brenda Lee,

1126
01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:52.840
<v Speaker 2>best known for Rocking around the Christmas Tree, and for

1127
01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Chubby Checker, who you may have heard of. He would

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01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:59.760
<v Speaker 2>record demos of the songs that he wrote. Common practice

1129
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:02.039
<v Speaker 2>record the demos to pass on to the artists so

1130
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:04.159
<v Speaker 2>they could hear what the songs sound like, and some

1131
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:07.199
<v Speaker 2>of the demos came to the attention of Tommy Mottola

1132
01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:11.720
<v Speaker 2>at Sony, which owns Columbia Records, and Tommy Mottolis told

1133
01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Benny he should be recording his own songs. So Benny

1134
01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Benny Mardone is put together a band called the Hurricanes.

1135
01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:22.199
<v Speaker 2>He got signed to Polydor Records, which is a British

1136
01:10:22.199 --> 01:10:27.800
<v Speaker 2>subdivision of hemith umg. In nineteen eighty Benny co wrote

1137
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:31.079
<v Speaker 2>the song Into the Night with Robert Tepper, who has

1138
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:34.479
<v Speaker 2>his own story we could talk about Another Time, and

1139
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:37.439
<v Speaker 2>the song was released on his second album titled Never Run,

1140
01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:40.479
<v Speaker 2>Never Hide. The song hit number eleven on the Billboard

1141
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Hot one hundred back when radio was king, and it

1142
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:47.199
<v Speaker 2>launched Benny into the big time. But unfortunately, substance abuse,

1143
01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:50.680
<v Speaker 2>mostly cocaine, brought him right back down to the point

1144
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:54.279
<v Speaker 2>where Polydor wound up dropping him. He was a complete

1145
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:57.920
<v Speaker 2>mess until nineteen eighty five when his son Michael was born,

1146
01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:01.079
<v Speaker 2>and that prompted him to straighten up. A friend helped

1147
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:04.199
<v Speaker 2>him move to Syracuse, New York and start over, and

1148
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Benny became a local celebrity and made a good living

1149
01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:10.760
<v Speaker 2>performing in the Syracuse area in Central in Central New

1150
01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:14.800
<v Speaker 2>York for many years now. Four years later, nineteen eighty nine,

1151
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:19.720
<v Speaker 2>a Phoenix radio station k ZZP had a show common

1152
01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:23.359
<v Speaker 2>show common format called where Are They Now? And they

1153
01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:26.119
<v Speaker 2>played this song because it was nine years old already.

1154
01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:30.319
<v Speaker 2>That prompted Scott Shannon, a major figure in pop radio,

1155
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:32.640
<v Speaker 2>to add it to his playlist while he was working

1156
01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:35.760
<v Speaker 2>out in Los Angeles. For those who may not recognize

1157
01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:38.439
<v Speaker 2>the name Scott Shannon, he invented the morning Zoo format.

1158
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:40.640
<v Speaker 2>He's the one who made Z one hundred in New

1159
01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:44.279
<v Speaker 2>York City the top radio station. There's a pretty cool

1160
01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:47.439
<v Speaker 2>documentary called From Worse to First about Z one hundred,

1161
01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:49.479
<v Speaker 2>and it focuses on the work that Scott Shannon did,

1162
01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:54.159
<v Speaker 2>so Scott to him, Yeah, yeah, Z one hundred. He

1163
01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:56.520
<v Speaker 2>went over to WPLJ and then he went over to

1164
01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:58.600
<v Speaker 2>CBS FM, and then he retired.

1165
01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:01.880
<v Speaker 11>Now, yeah, it's a big station on one of the

1166
01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:03.239
<v Speaker 11>satellite Yeah, he's.

1167
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Always done that. He's always one of the side gigs.

1168
01:12:05.239 --> 01:12:07.520
<v Speaker 2>He's always done all these kind of stuff like syndicated

1169
01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:11.399
<v Speaker 2>old these shows for regular broadcast radio stations and now

1170
01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:14.960
<v Speaker 2>streaming and online. So he's not completely retired, but he

1171
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:20.000
<v Speaker 2>stepped away from broadcast radio. So he put it Into

1172
01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:23.760
<v Speaker 2>the Night into his playlist and everybody followed Scott Shannon,

1173
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:26.039
<v Speaker 2>so they started putting it in their playlist and it

1174
01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:30.239
<v Speaker 2>took off again. Benny was signed to Curb Records. He

1175
01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:32.960
<v Speaker 2>re recorded the song as Into the Night eighty nine

1176
01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:36.199
<v Speaker 2>and it hit number twenty again on the charts. It's

1177
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:39.520
<v Speaker 2>only it's only one of ten songs that charted twice

1178
01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:42.239
<v Speaker 2>like that, so that's pretty cool.

1179
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:43.199
<v Speaker 5>Good for him.

1180
01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:43.720
<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

1181
01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Benny Mardonez continued to tour and perform until about twenty seventeen.

1182
01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:51.840
<v Speaker 2>He was battling Parkinson's disease, and he wound up getting

1183
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:55.319
<v Speaker 2>injured from repeated slips and falls, which unfortunately accompanied that

1184
01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:58.720
<v Speaker 2>he had multiple surgeries and it just kind of snowballed

1185
01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:01.920
<v Speaker 2>into bigger problems and he wound up passing away in

1186
01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:06.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty. If you want a tear jerker moment, you

1187
01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:10.359
<v Speaker 2>can go on YouTube because somebody posted the last time

1188
01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:14.800
<v Speaker 2>he sang this song at the Turningstone Casino in Central

1189
01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:17.680
<v Speaker 2>New York and you can see his hands were shaking

1190
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:20.520
<v Speaker 2>and he's in tears as he's introducing the song. This

1191
01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:22.279
<v Speaker 2>is the last time I'm going to sing this in public.

1192
01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Please sing it with me, and everybody sang it with him,

1193
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:29.039
<v Speaker 2>so even if you have a heart of stone, it's

1194
01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:32.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of a tear jerker. So over his career, Benny

1195
01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:35.520
<v Speaker 2>put out twelve studio albums and five live albums, and

1196
01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:39.560
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty good on top of other one off recording projects.

1197
01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:43.720
<v Speaker 2>And now, as far as the song goes, it's the

1198
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:47.520
<v Speaker 2>first line that may sway your opinion one way or another,

1199
01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:51.439
<v Speaker 2>but I will say that the first line is also misunderstood,

1200
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:53.760
<v Speaker 2>so bear with me as we tell the story. The

1201
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:57.399
<v Speaker 2>song starts with the line she's just sixteen years old.

1202
01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Leave her alone. They said, Oh wait, I can understand.

1203
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh yeah, but here comes the story for me.

1204
01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I was fifteen when the song was released a second time,

1205
01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:14.119
<v Speaker 2>and when you're fifteen, hitting sixteen is huge, especially in

1206
01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:16.880
<v Speaker 2>New York, because at sixteen you get your driver's license,

1207
01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:20.119
<v Speaker 2>you get some autonomy, you know, like high school graduations,

1208
01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:22.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the light at the end of the tunnel.

1209
01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:25.359
<v Speaker 2>So it didn't bother me. I kind of got it,

1210
01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:28.680
<v Speaker 2>but I wasn't thinking about how old the singer was

1211
01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:32.279
<v Speaker 2>at the time. And it's a song where you can

1212
01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:35.159
<v Speaker 2>understand the lyrics, you can understand what he's saying, and

1213
01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:37.199
<v Speaker 2>the lyrics spoke to me.

1214
01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:37.960
<v Speaker 4>I like it.

1215
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:40.159
<v Speaker 2>The style is a bit of a throwback to the

1216
01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:42.760
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifties duop, which I was into in high school

1217
01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:46.119
<v Speaker 2>because I'm a complete nerd. The backup singer style, the

1218
01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:50.079
<v Speaker 2>chord progression, and I think you'll hear definitely that fifties

1219
01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:52.640
<v Speaker 2>style when we listen to the track. And remember the

1220
01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:55.239
<v Speaker 2>fifties wasn't that long before the song first came out

1221
01:14:55.479 --> 01:15:00.439
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty, so it wasn't that long ago. The

1222
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:03.000
<v Speaker 2>co writer, Robert Tepper is actually a backup singer on

1223
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the song as well. So with that opening line and

1224
01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:10.359
<v Speaker 2>with the lyrics being easily misunderstood out of context, people

1225
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:13.000
<v Speaker 2>got a little upset about what they assumed to be

1226
01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:15.560
<v Speaker 2>the subject matter of the song, which is an old

1227
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:18.760
<v Speaker 2>dude lusting after a sixteen year old, and in fact,

1228
01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:21.199
<v Speaker 2>many radio stations would not play the song because of

1229
01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:25.479
<v Speaker 2>that until Polydor Records issued a statement explaining the origin

1230
01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:28.119
<v Speaker 2>of the song. They sent out over three thousand letters

1231
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:31.760
<v Speaker 2>the different radio stations explaining what the actual story of

1232
01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the song is, and then they started playing the song.

1233
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:37.000
<v Speaker 2>On top of that, many programmed directors at R and

1234
01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:40.199
<v Speaker 2>B stations when they heard the song, they thought Benny

1235
01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:43.239
<v Speaker 2>was black, so they put it into rotation, and when

1236
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:45.840
<v Speaker 2>they found out he was not, He's a white guy,

1237
01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:48.600
<v Speaker 2>they pulled the record, so it kind of tanked on

1238
01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:51.640
<v Speaker 2>the R and B side. So here's a recap of

1239
01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:54.479
<v Speaker 2>the story behind the song. I mentioned it. He co

1240
01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:57.960
<v Speaker 2>wrote it with Robert Tepper. They were at Benny's apartment

1241
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:00.279
<v Speaker 2>in Spanish Harlem in New York City while they were

1242
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:03.399
<v Speaker 2>working on writing songs for the next album. Their neighbors

1243
01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:06.680
<v Speaker 2>included a family of five. The father of the family

1244
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:09.560
<v Speaker 2>made it big as a Broadway set designer, and then

1245
01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:11.800
<v Speaker 2>apparently ran off with one of the dancers in one

1246
01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:15.199
<v Speaker 2>of the shows, just completely abandoning the family, leaving the

1247
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:18.760
<v Speaker 2>mom and three teenagers, two girls and a boy. They

1248
01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:20.880
<v Speaker 2>had nothing. The father was the sole income for the

1249
01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:25.039
<v Speaker 2>family and he was gone. Benny was already established at

1250
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:26.640
<v Speaker 2>this point. He was making a good living and he

1251
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:28.840
<v Speaker 2>wanted to help out this family, so he would pay

1252
01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:32.119
<v Speaker 2>the kids to do jobs like go grocery shopping for him,

1253
01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:35.720
<v Speaker 2>walking the dog. And the girl who walked his dog

1254
01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:40.359
<v Speaker 2>was and still is named Heidi. She was sixteen. One

1255
01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:42.600
<v Speaker 2>morning before school, she came over to walk the dog,

1256
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:45.479
<v Speaker 2>and as she was leaving, Tepper made an off the

1257
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:50.399
<v Speaker 2>cuff comment about her appearance, and Benny said, pal, she

1258
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:54.279
<v Speaker 2>is sixteen years old, leave her alone, and then bing

1259
01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the light bulb goes off because songwriters have light bulb

1260
01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:00.439
<v Speaker 2>moments like that. I can never have a light moment

1261
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:02.880
<v Speaker 2>like that, even with all my woody comments, I never

1262
01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:05.960
<v Speaker 2>come up with anything like that. So he started building

1263
01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:08.239
<v Speaker 2>a story off that line, She's just sixteen years old,

1264
01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Leave her alone. The chorus goes, if I could fly,

1265
01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I'd lift you up and take you into the night

1266
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:17.439
<v Speaker 2>and show you a love like you've never seen. You

1267
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:20.039
<v Speaker 2>can misinterpret that as I'm an old guy taking this

1268
01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:22.840
<v Speaker 2>young girl, but that's not what he meant by it.

1269
01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:25.920
<v Speaker 2>It's about lifting the family out of poverty, showing you

1270
01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:28.359
<v Speaker 2>a love like you've never seen. Is your father abandoned

1271
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:29.680
<v Speaker 2>you and you don't know what it's like to have

1272
01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:33.199
<v Speaker 2>a good father. So that was his approach to the

1273
01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:37.560
<v Speaker 2>story behind the song. Benny did a lot of interviews

1274
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:40.560
<v Speaker 2>specifically about the song, and a lot of those interviews

1275
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:43.680
<v Speaker 2>he brought Heidi with him to sit there and explain,

1276
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:47.359
<v Speaker 2>to actually justify what he was talking about. He was

1277
01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:51.359
<v Speaker 2>very happy to explain the backstory to the song. As

1278
01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:53.359
<v Speaker 2>luck would have it, Heidi would go on to marry

1279
01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:55.840
<v Speaker 2>into a wealthy family in Puerto Rico and her whole

1280
01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:58.800
<v Speaker 2>family wound up moving there, so they all had a

1281
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:02.479
<v Speaker 2>success story as well. Her brothers got jobs with the

1282
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:05.199
<v Speaker 2>wealthy family and all that kind of stuff, so turned

1283
01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:08.920
<v Speaker 2>out happy for them. It's Benny's vocals that really stand

1284
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:10.960
<v Speaker 2>out on this track. He did the whole song in

1285
01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:14.359
<v Speaker 2>three takes. There are a number of standout vocal fills

1286
01:18:14.399 --> 01:18:16.920
<v Speaker 2>in the song, especially a bridge in the middle, and

1287
01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:20.640
<v Speaker 2>as you recall, I mentioned that he recorded demos for

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<v Speaker 2>songs that he wrote so other people could hear what

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<v Speaker 2>it would kind of sound like. Those vocals were supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a guide for a saxophone solo, which was

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<v Speaker 2>common practice. I'm gonna sing this, then the sax player

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<v Speaker 2>had to pick it up, like Jen was saying that

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<v Speaker 2>he did with his song sing it Warren's pick it

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<v Speaker 2>out and play it well. After they were done, the

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<v Speaker 2>producer was quoted saying, we won't be using a saxophone

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<v Speaker 2>on this record the way Benny sang it was.

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<v Speaker 11>Been horrified momentarily.

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine, but I think when you hear the track,

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<v Speaker 2>you can understand why the decision was made. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>check out. This is the original one, not the re

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<v Speaker 2>recording from eighty nine. This is the original nineteen eighty recording.

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<v Speaker 2>Into the Night Bye Benny Mardonez.

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<v Speaker 13>She's just sixteen years old. Leave you no, they said,

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<v Speaker 13>sad readed that.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know what.

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<v Speaker 19>It is ya, but I want you to know, lad good,

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<v Speaker 19>I thank you, thank you to the night. It jell

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<v Speaker 19>you love, thank you name say and say. It's like

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<v Speaker 19>having a dream.

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<v Speaker 21>Nobody it has a home. It's heaving it all, watching

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<v Speaker 21>it fall, and I.

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<v Speaker 12>Would wait to be time for you.

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<v Speaker 11>Do it?

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<v Speaker 14>Looka It's true.

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<v Speaker 12>I can't imagin my love.

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<v Speaker 15>Stuffing, just the baby.

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<v Speaker 11>That I want you.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm think you.

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<v Speaker 14>I'll take you into your life.

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<v Speaker 15>I'll show you, I'm dig you, I take you into

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<v Speaker 15>the night.

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<v Speaker 12>In shall you name scene?

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<v Speaker 14>I'm seeing I go by not Biggie thinking n.

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<v Speaker 12>Y should be.

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<v Speaker 14>My ha big.

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<v Speaker 12>And digging.

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<v Speaker 2>Chance got his lighter out, an actual old school lighter,

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<v Speaker 2>you know they made those still, So what'd you think?

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, I would not.

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<v Speaker 9>Say that would be a pro Valentine's song given the

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<v Speaker 9>the theme. I would have to I don't know, you know, folks,

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<v Speaker 9>what do you all think?

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<v Speaker 4>I would question whether it was a Valentine's you know

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<v Speaker 4>song at all, being that it's kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the whole sixteen year old thing. You know, But why

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<v Speaker 4>didn't they just change that lyric? It would have It

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<v Speaker 4>would have changed the whole perspective of the song. And

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<v Speaker 4>because otherwise, I mean, the production is magnificent, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the scene is all it has everything going forward except

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<v Speaker 4>that you know which, And in my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>He was paying tribute to like a real person and

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<v Speaker 3>a real story.

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<v Speaker 7>I sat Valentine wasn't all necessarily about romance.

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<v Speaker 11>It was about love.

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<v Speaker 5>Can heads off, wasn't it pretty much?

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<v Speaker 11>You know, you gotta overlook the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>You pick the part you like and go with that.

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<v Speaker 11>So you don't think style, right, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't think it's pro.

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<v Speaker 3>Who doesn't think it's pro?

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<v Speaker 1>John doesn't?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Well, I think when people guests stuck on that

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<v Speaker 2>that sixteen year old line, even with the explanation. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>of course some people just will not accept the explanation

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<v Speaker 2>of the backstory and just think it's a pervy song.

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<v Speaker 4>Well no, even even with the explanation, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and even you know, sending out the letters and going

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<v Speaker 4>not everybody is going to hear that, you know, not everybody.

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<v Speaker 14>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's a different world now, you know, you put

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<v Speaker 4>something out on the internet, Yeah it's gonna that didn't

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<v Speaker 4>happen back then. That wasn't available. So you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>was like maybe you were listening when he did the

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<v Speaker 4>interview on the on the radio station or whatever. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>you weren't. Chances are you probably weren't. If there's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you got a million listeners, what they're not all listening

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<v Speaker 4>at once, right in my case, none of them listened.

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<v Speaker 7>So but I was seventeen when I heard that song,

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<v Speaker 7>and I guess I didn't think about sixteen it's such

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<v Speaker 7>a big deal, or fourteen is such a big deal.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think of the song as kind of an

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<v Speaker 7>expression of, you know, love, not romantic love.

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<v Speaker 11>But I kind of I'm on the fence with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I was fifteen when it came out,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was right at that age and didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>about the singer's age or any of that. I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought the lyrics were cool. Again, right, huh you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's pro I would say, you know what, after knowing

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<v Speaker 2>the story that it's about lifting a family out of poverty,

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<v Speaker 2>it has actually nothing to do with it at all,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the monkey wrench that I like to throw

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<v Speaker 2>into everything.

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<v Speaker 4>What was the year again?

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<v Speaker 2>It first came out in nineteen eighty, and we listened

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<v Speaker 2>to the nineteen eighty recording. He re recorded it in

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<v Speaker 2>eighty nine, which.

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<v Speaker 4>Was which is good.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a little different the same lyrics, same lyrics,

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<v Speaker 2>different band.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was a little older than fifteen in nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So there you go. I think we're split on that,

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<v Speaker 2>but overall, yeah, the crampbolts have got soft.

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<v Speaker 4>We're all overall pro. We'll get them next to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got it to make us cranky.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to thank you guys, Thank you guys for

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<v Speaker 7>having me, because I hope I haven't overstepped in my.

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<v Speaker 11>Experience. I'd like to leave you with one thing that

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<v Speaker 11>I always think of when discussing these songs, and it's

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<v Speaker 11>from Frank Zappa, and it's there's two songs. There's two

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<v Speaker 11>times that all the songs on the radio are true

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<v Speaker 11>when you're falling in love or breaking up.

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<v Speaker 4>True.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Maxwell Silver, this has.

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<v Speaker 11>Been a blast. I really enjoyed just hearing this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Great.

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<v Speaker 11>This is great. Fellow music nerds.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us, join us.

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<v Speaker 8>You got it, mot We're an interesting group.

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<v Speaker 11>We can yes, you monsters meet the most interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my gosh. All right, excellent choices, Crambones. We'll have

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<v Speaker 2>to pick a topic that shows our true cranky side

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<v Speaker 2>in the near future, just so we balance it all out.

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<v Speaker 2>Great job, and thank you all for joining us for

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<v Speaker 2>the Rock and Roll Instury Show on Hudson River Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>soon with another brand new episode, so we hope you'll

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<v Speaker 2>join us then. Until that time, peace out, everybody. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>forget to go get the half price Valentine's Chocolate.

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<v Speaker 11>Next week Rock Cop Bottomed Cram.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Bye bye.

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