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Speaker 6: It's Nicole Atkins on the Rock and Roll History Show.
Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the Rock and Roll History
Speaker 2: Show on Hudson River Radio. I'm Chief Cupid Brian Horowitz,
Speaker 2: gonna try to control all the cat crambones we have
Speaker 2: here tonight. As is our tradition, Valentine's is coming up,
Speaker 2: so uh we all pick either pro or con Valentine's
Speaker 2: kind of tracks and see where our mood falls. So
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing what happens tonight as always.
Speaker 2: Before we hop in, allow me to introduce all the
Speaker 2: crambones who are joining us here tonight. First and foremost,
Speaker 2: from the Rich Observatory. He believes that only girls are
Speaker 2: born on Valentine's Day because there's no mail delivery on holidays.
Speaker 2: Neil Richter is back.
Speaker 4: Oh I see what you did that?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 4: How you doing?
Speaker 2: Everybody, the host of Paranormally Yours. She believes skunk's love
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day because they're sentimental.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 1: Stinky ponds, sticky pons.
Speaker 8: Wait wait, wait till everybody hears the song, I chows, Oh,
Speaker 8: I can't wait. Keep that in mind.
Speaker 2: And from the silver screen she saw two chemists walk
Speaker 2: into a bar on Valentine's Day. One said to the other,
Speaker 2: I've got my eye on you, Mercedes Cat this year.
Speaker 5: Okay, so it did take me a minute.
Speaker 2: That's good, A good thinker every now and then. It's
Speaker 2: never got hurt anybody.
Speaker 5: Hey, everybody, Happy Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2: And our absolutely retired teacher, he says, if you always
Speaker 2: want a date on Valentine's Day, get a calendar.
Speaker 9: Hey, everybody, Happy Valentine's Day to everybody out there in
Speaker 9: radio land.
Speaker 2: And last but not least, the host of shaving Cream,
Speaker 2: she says, the one flower you should never give on
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day is califlower.
Speaker 10: Barbara Ville this year, I would agree with that.
Speaker 2: I would disagree. I'd be very happy to get a cauliflower.
Speaker 2: But I'm a little strange. What can I say?
Speaker 1: I think you have to be to be on this show.
Speaker 2: I think so. So Yeah, this this Valentine's Day tradition
Speaker 2: kind of geled a few years ago. It was we
Speaker 2: were kind of split fifty to fifty pro Valentine's anti Valentines.
Speaker 2: I'm neutral on Valentine's. I am against the price gouging,
Speaker 2: but I am for all the chalk that comes with it.
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of in the middle of myself and
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to hearing what everybody has chosen for
Speaker 2: this year's selection. And Mercedes, you're going to leave us
Speaker 2: up this.
Speaker 3: Year, I am, and I am really happy to be
Speaker 3: kicking off the show today because I don't know if
Speaker 3: my Valentine's Day song is pro or con.
Speaker 5: And maybe you can help me decide.
Speaker 3: The song title is Go to the Line, and it's
Speaker 3: by a band called the Nightcaps, and it's from nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty two album of the same name on Sire Records.
Speaker 3: And first I want to tell you a little bit
Speaker 3: about the band. I worked for Sire Records at the
Speaker 3: time that this song was released, and I was a
Speaker 3: huge fan. I went to every show that I could,
Speaker 3: and I knew the band members. I lost track of
Speaker 3: them over time, but I never forgot I reached out
Speaker 3: to a mutual friend and found Jan about two years ago,
Speaker 3: so I decided to bring him along to talk about
Speaker 3: the song and maybe he can tell you if it's
Speaker 3: pro or con Valentine's Day.
Speaker 11: God, you know, hi Hi, you don say hi jam Hi.
Speaker 7: Everybody ex musing reason all things for picking a song
Speaker 7: of mine. But it's funny because when you asked me,
Speaker 7: I thought, well, I don't really have any love songs
Speaker 7: because I love I loved subversive love songs like that
Speaker 7: were actually political songs sounded like love songs like Curtis
Speaker 7: Mayfield and stuff like that. So this, when you asked
Speaker 7: me about this, I went, that was that was like
Speaker 7: I was like eighteen or nineteen years old, first serious,
Speaker 7: real girlfriend, and we kept breaking up and going back together.
Speaker 7: So it's and I love you and why do you
Speaker 7: hate me? And why do I hate you? And let's
Speaker 7: get back together song? So it falls strictly in both camps.
Speaker 5: Chorus. Are you in trouble?
Speaker 12: John over?
Speaker 2: There?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 7: No, No, that's that's my ride coming for me. Oh,
Speaker 7: I'm sorry. That's the New York City Symphony. They're coming
Speaker 7: down Second Avenue.
Speaker 11: They're on tour.
Speaker 7: Sorry, I lived near many major hospitals. Anyway you can
Speaker 7: edit that out.
Speaker 2: Near or in.
Speaker 7: Yeah, depends on when you ask.
Speaker 3: Okay, so to me, I don't know, if I ever,
Speaker 3: I don't know. Did we have lyrics back then with
Speaker 3: their lyrics on that there.
Speaker 11: Was there There was a lyrics sheet on the album.
Speaker 7: I think Daven put it on that reissue CE that
Speaker 7: came out years ago, like ten years ago or something. Yeah,
Speaker 7: there were lyrics on the inner sleeve and it was
Speaker 7: pictures of us and the Uptown Horns who figure really
Speaker 7: largely in this Arno Hecked, Crispin, c Bob Funk, Paul
Speaker 7: litteral those guys.
Speaker 11: We lost them to my favorite live band ever, the
Speaker 11: Jay Giles.
Speaker 7: Band, So losing them was heartbreaking and yet validation. I
Speaker 7: got the best guys and they contributed everything to this,
Speaker 7: and that was Al Maddie who you know who you've
Speaker 7: seen recently, and Sammy Brown on drums, and Peter Jordan
Speaker 7: from the New York Dolls and Stumble Bunny and several
Speaker 7: other bands who was on base. I started this band
Speaker 7: because the Voidoids broke up when I had been in
Speaker 7: Richard Hell and the Voidoids in seventy nine, and my
Speaker 7: mother said, go back to school, get a job, or
Speaker 7: start another band.
Speaker 5: That's a no brainer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so I was going to say I didn't
Speaker 3: really well, I didn't remember the lyrics. Maybe I knew
Speaker 3: him at the time, but you know, it's too busy
Speaker 3: like dancing and.
Speaker 11: Well, it's you know, it's very funny.
Speaker 7: It's that kind of like pet It's kind of a
Speaker 7: petulant song. Looking at it from forty plus years, it's
Speaker 7: kind of a petulant little boy breaking up but not
Speaker 7: breaking up with this first serious girl who I'm still
Speaker 7: friends with to this day, by the way, who I
Speaker 7: who asked me for a copy of the LP who
Speaker 7: because her boyfriend, who she's married to, has liked the band.
Speaker 11: Life.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Really, but I think you know the chorus is I'd
Speaker 5: go to the line.
Speaker 11: For you, but you'd throw it all away, you.
Speaker 3: Know, right right?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I always thought of it as a romantic song, like
Speaker 3: I would do any thing for you. So that was
Speaker 3: my initial reason for picking the song. And then the
Speaker 3: more I talk to you and the more I listened
Speaker 3: to the song, I was like, okay.
Speaker 7: Yeah it was it was you know, you're trying. I
Speaker 7: was trying to like sort of snap. I can say
Speaker 7: her name, she wouldn't mind. I was trying to snap
Speaker 7: and Carrie Hamilton and I and I wrote you know
Speaker 7: we were such a pretty pair, matching eyes and matching hair,
Speaker 7: you know, eighteen year old stuff. And you know, I
Speaker 7: wish that I could make the old days clearer. I
Speaker 7: wish I could make the old days nearer.
Speaker 11: We're eighteen.
Speaker 7: How many old days were they? I wish that I
Speaker 7: could tear you from your mirror. I might as well
Speaker 7: have been speaking about my own self. So it's really
Speaker 7: funny to look at it through those eyes ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: but it really is a I love you? Why why
Speaker 7: don't you love me the same way I love you?
Speaker 7: Maybe I don't well view this say when you love
Speaker 7: me not?
Speaker 5: Let's let's play the song.
Speaker 14: Oh, it was such a prettiest thing.
Speaker 12: Fat you're not imagine gors.
Speaker 14: The town you goes up, I'll building alone And that's down.
Speaker 1: Words that the.
Speaker 14: Right got.
Speaker 12: Got oh my.
Speaker 14: On the wrists, just coming all.
Speaker 15: The words coming on the road, don't.
Speaker 14: Come back getting down in the sports got your can't
Speaker 14: you want post your back word.
Speaker 12: To words black patches black.
Speaker 15: As I was another five bucks five to.
Speaker 12: The issues as to tell.
Speaker 11: You Rocky the d.
Speaker 14: Last spot you love You're going on the words you
Speaker 14: got it on the words You've got it on the way,
Speaker 14: I've got the last love back up on the WT
Speaker 14: colling on the WBS, step out on the word, gotta.
Speaker 12: All that stuf, gotta.
Speaker 13: Let you say, you gotta do.
Speaker 11: The gotta.
Speaker 16: Have what's come off?
Speaker 11: Back to.
Speaker 17: What's come off?
Speaker 11: Back to the.
Speaker 14: What's come off?
Speaker 11: Back to the.
Speaker 14: Speaks like one. I want to tell you about blas Way.
Speaker 17: You said not good?
Speaker 12: The other you are you sad?
Speaker 11: Not good? I be saying you?
Speaker 14: Is it not good that your frock your side, last funny?
Speaker 14: All all the words, doing all the words, You're all
Speaker 14: it all the worst.
Speaker 11: I don't last.
Speaker 8: I love.
Speaker 14: Still thound, all the words, still do all the words,
Speaker 14: still do it? All the world speaking stupid.
Speaker 11: It's been a while.
Speaker 5: How did it sound to you?
Speaker 11: You know? I love?
Speaker 7: I just it just flashed to me that when I
Speaker 7: was writing that, I was fascinated with Elvis Costello's Trust album.
Speaker 7: I had been and he wrote this song on that
Speaker 7: album that had two distinct parts, and I thought, why
Speaker 7: not just throw something in at the end that has
Speaker 7: almost nothing to do with the song, but it's related,
Speaker 7: and I kind of I just flashed on that when
Speaker 7: I was listening to it. You don't I have to
Speaker 7: listen to this in years.
Speaker 5: I love that debt.
Speaker 3: It changes that the song changes. I think that's very cool. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think you sound amazing.
Speaker 2: I mean writing parts for the horn section is not easy.
Speaker 2: Is that something you learn how to do? Is it
Speaker 2: you just figure?
Speaker 7: Well, I've got to give credit to the uptown horns
Speaker 7: where it's too. They would I was musically illiterate, so
Speaker 7: I would just play them parts or hum them parts.
Speaker 7: They would take them and then play them in front
Speaker 7: of me and go like this and I you know,
Speaker 7: like the spinal tap joke to raga, you know. But
Speaker 7: really they crafted the We crafted the arrangements together. All
Speaker 7: the harmor harmonic structures were theirs. I just gave them
Speaker 7: the lines and sometimes they go, yeah, that's a bit trite.
Speaker 7: We do that all the time with other bands. Don't
Speaker 7: do that, which was great growing up, advice nice.
Speaker 18: They played with so many people they were really oh
Speaker 18: we lost them, the Jay Giles and then they went
Speaker 18: on to the Rolling Stones and Robert Plant and playing
Speaker 18: on Living in America by James.
Speaker 4: Brown, on and on and on.
Speaker 7: They were no and they came together as a horn
Speaker 7: section in the bedroom I lived in in my parents' house.
Speaker 11: On Sixteenth Street.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure the neighbors love that.
Speaker 11: The horns were the most benign sound that came out
Speaker 11: of that room.
Speaker 5: So you wrote the song, you wrote the horn?
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I wrote that song.
Speaker 7: And yeah, al Maddy of course always contributed arrangement stuff
Speaker 7: whatever you guys, he does with music with me to
Speaker 7: this day.
Speaker 11: But he that was mine and I brought it to
Speaker 11: the band and then they did the thing that they
Speaker 11: did which made them a band.
Speaker 7: You know, you can bring a song and tell people
Speaker 7: how to play it, but unless people will understand you
Speaker 7: get get it in their hands, there could be any
Speaker 7: four guys.
Speaker 5: And this this song, I don't know.
Speaker 11: It charted right, No, no, it charted on on some
Speaker 11: on like Indie Networks CMJ kind of thing.
Speaker 7: And it charted in certain places that we funnily enough,
Speaker 7: like in the States it was like Detroit and Philly
Speaker 7: and Cleveland and places that.
Speaker 11: Always liked the bands that we sort of liked. And then.
Speaker 7: In France and Italy and Germany for a while, but
Speaker 7: really we never.
Speaker 11: Got the tour over there.
Speaker 7: We got to tour with YouTube uh in England, Scotland
Speaker 7: and Wales during the war tour, and that was about
Speaker 7: it for us with Sire.
Speaker 11: We made just the one record and we're handsomely paid
Speaker 11: to leave.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, we don't have no, we don't have a
Speaker 7: sad rock and roll We got screwed story. The two
Speaker 7: A and R guys who signed us, Ken Kushnik, Michael
Speaker 7: Rosenblack right, Mike left to go join his father at Geffen.
Speaker 18: Well he went to the Frontier first, but yeah, right,
Speaker 18: and then he joined ed and he uh and then
Speaker 18: Ken went to become head of WE International.
Speaker 7: So the two guys who signed us had left, and
Speaker 7: Seymour was occupied with Madonna, rightfully so, and so we
Speaker 7: got kind of you know, we are. We had good representation,
Speaker 7: we had a good relationship with them, and they gave
Speaker 7: us money rather than you know, our lawyer said, you'll
Speaker 7: make the album and they'll keep it in the shelf forever,
Speaker 7: or they'll give you money.
Speaker 11: And we said, give us money.
Speaker 5: And that was Seymour's doing.
Speaker 7: David Altshule, you know, they were the Warner Brothers structure
Speaker 7: because Warner Brothers was not fond of us.
Speaker 11: Sire was.
Speaker 7: When we lost our champions at Sire, we lost Warner Brothers,
Speaker 7: so it wasn't a you know, it wasn't a hardship story.
Speaker 7: We walked away happy. I saw Seymour Stein about ten
Speaker 7: years ago at a party and I said, Seymour, I
Speaker 7: just wanted to thank you. And he didn't remember who
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 5: I'm not surprised, and I said.
Speaker 11: Jan from the Nightcaps. So I got seymore stories for decades.
Speaker 11: We won't go there. And he looks at me. He
Speaker 11: was sitting in a chair.
Speaker 7: It was on Delancey Street, that club that had an
Speaker 7: upstairs outdoors thing, and he was sitting in a chair.
Speaker 7: He looked like Sydney Green Street. It was one of
Speaker 7: those wicker chairs. And I said, Seymour, I just wanted
Speaker 7: to thank you, and he goes. I said, I'm Jan
Speaker 7: from the Nightcabs, Barbuskuydell's nephew. And he goes and he
Speaker 7: looks at me and he said thank me for what
Speaker 7: because I could see it clicking for him.
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, And I said, I'm sorry, I'm horse tonight.
Speaker 7: I said thank you for sending me to places I
Speaker 7: never would have gone, Meeting people I never would have gone.
Speaker 7: He met cities I never would have gone to things
Speaker 7: I never would have had had a big nice part
Speaker 7: of my resume. And he looked like relieved, but I
Speaker 7: didn't attack him.
Speaker 17: It was like.
Speaker 11: I walked away with a few bucks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: In the band.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 5: At least we did right by you. That's good to know.
Speaker 3: So Seymour's for anybody who doesn't know Seymour Simus, the
Speaker 3: president of Sire Records.
Speaker 11: Sorry, I was speaking as if I was speaking to you,
Speaker 11: not an audience.
Speaker 5: I know, It's okay, let me translate.
Speaker 11: Should have looked at the other six people on my street.
Speaker 2: Sorry, We're all just listening intently and we're taking notes
Speaker 2: on how to make money by not making records.
Speaker 7: It was I likened it to farm subsidies, you know,
Speaker 7: where they would pay farmers to plow their crops under.
Speaker 12: There you go.
Speaker 5: Yep, So you did make another record.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we made another record on their our own auspices,
Speaker 7: actually in the Hudson Valley. We made it with a
Speaker 7: woodstock label in the early nineties. It was self funded
Speaker 7: and it was really done the way I do music now,
Speaker 7: which is because I have to and giving it away
Speaker 7: is sort of By the time that CV was coming
Speaker 7: out nearly nineties, did music business as we knew it,
Speaker 7: and as I grew up in it was not the same.
Speaker 11: So selling has never been the deal.
Speaker 7: At this point, I have people who've heard what I've done,
Speaker 7: who listen, and I make it for them, and I
Speaker 7: make it so that my kid goes this is where
Speaker 7: your grandfather's work really took shape.
Speaker 5: So I guess we got to get on with the
Speaker 5: rest of the show.
Speaker 7: I Mercedes, thank you for inviting me. Everybody else please
Speaker 7: thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're welcome to stay and make witty comments if
Speaker 2: you like.
Speaker 4: If you if you have pain, keep them under the radar.
Speaker 11: Unless invited, I'll keep them under the radar. I'm gonna
Speaker 11: hang out and listen though sounds good.
Speaker 3: The last thing I wanted to say is the album
Speaker 3: Go to the Line by the night Caps. Every single
Speaker 3: song is spectacular. If you ever happen to see it somewhere,
Speaker 3: you should grab it because it is. Really every song
Speaker 3: is amazing. Why are you laughing?
Speaker 5: It's so true.
Speaker 11: I'm laughing because you can buy it.
Speaker 7: A Look, none of this goes to me because that
Speaker 7: album will never recoup what they gave us and paid
Speaker 7: us to go away.
Speaker 5: So yeah, but you know, for your listening ears.
Speaker 7: It's on Spotify, so if you want to help pay
Speaker 7: a penny for each listen to the recoupment balance, you
Speaker 7: can find it there.
Speaker 2: So, Jane, are you playing out anywhere?
Speaker 11: I have been?
Speaker 7: I spent the last year playing a regular show here
Speaker 7: in New York City on Saint Mark's Place with an
Speaker 7: amalgamation of great New York City people that I've grown
Speaker 7: to know.
Speaker 11: Oh Titian style. The names.
Speaker 7: I hesitate to start naming people because you will be
Speaker 7: here too long, or I'll leave somebody out.
Speaker 11: I'm a Julian.
Speaker 7: My old brother from the Voidoids was one of the
Speaker 7: people who played, as well as the people from the
Speaker 7: Bush Tetras and Faith and what anyway, I don't want
Speaker 7: to leave anybody out.
Speaker 11: But this year it's about working on the record.
Speaker 7: I seem to make every decade I'm working with Night
Speaker 7: Bob look him up and Charlie Row and.
Speaker 11: That's it. Focusing on the recording.
Speaker 2: Before I forget. Is there a website or social media
Speaker 2: somewhere we can get anything out for me?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 7: Okay, no, I would highly recommend looking up Night Bob
Speaker 7: Chaikowski's website.
Speaker 11: He and Rich Neeson do a thing called not road
Speaker 11: Diaries or something like that.
Speaker 7: It's a beautiful show about from two guys who've grown
Speaker 7: up there, who longer than we've been alive on the road.
Speaker 11: With fans, and one of them is producing my new record.
Speaker 2: So nice. So do you are you working in studio
Speaker 2: or are you working from home mostly.
Speaker 11: Or working right now?
Speaker 7: We're working on There have been about because I only
Speaker 7: make a record, say every ten years or so, I've
Speaker 7: been working.
Speaker 11: On excuse me.
Speaker 7: I've been working on whittling down the list with the
Speaker 7: assistance of the two guys I'm working with at the
Speaker 7: production stage, and we're.
Speaker 11: Whittling down the songs. My throat is dying questions, we're
Speaker 11: whittling them.
Speaker 7: We're whittling them down to a list of about ten
Speaker 7: or so. We don't really believe that an album is
Speaker 7: what you want to do right now. We just want
Speaker 7: to and they all know the same thing. I'm giving
Speaker 7: this away. I'm keeping all the rights. Anybody wants to
Speaker 7: use it for anything like that, fine, but really everybody
Speaker 7: involved those it's.
Speaker 11: Being given away.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 3: You've been doing the the uh mike for tell shows.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3: You are amazing. You slay the audience. I mean, it
Speaker 3: is breathtaking to see you sing well.
Speaker 11: Mike gives me great songs.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then that band Murderers Row Yeah, Charlie Roth, Danny DeVito,
Speaker 7: got it, get again. I'm gonna lead people out like
Speaker 7: ten people.
Speaker 5: Dave Foster, Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 11: Amazingam Speinberg.
Speaker 7: I can't even name all of them, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: but you can't sound bad with that band.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the song and the combination of the songs
Speaker 3: that he picks.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he takes.
Speaker 3: He takes a year and gives everybody a song that
Speaker 3: he thinks will fit them somehow. And Jim, what was
Speaker 3: the list? What was the last couple of songs that
Speaker 3: you did? They were Rainy Knight in Georgia.
Speaker 11: Right, Oh, that was yeah, there is I do have
Speaker 11: My daughter finally sent me a video of that. I
Speaker 11: finally that was July. I've got it in January. But
Speaker 11: that's what kids are for, and we did it. Sixty five,
Speaker 11: sixty six, sixty.
Speaker 7: Seven, sixty eight, sixty nine, seventy nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 11: I got to sing fire, which was fun.
Speaker 3: That was mind blowing. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: Anyway, okay, go on, folks and.
Speaker 11: Down please we can do this later.
Speaker 2: Ass again, as you're putting stuff out, come on back
Speaker 2: and share it because I love the whole process. I
Speaker 2: love the studio, the mixing, all the all the techie
Speaker 2: behind the scenes kind of stuff. So I'm in me too,
Speaker 2: So yeah, me too.
Speaker 7: Keith Richards had left everything about that out of his book,
Speaker 7: kind of read it twice.
Speaker 5: All right, Okay, Also that's my song. I don't know.
Speaker 5: You can vote later if you want on which.
Speaker 3: Way it goes.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, given the age bracket, it's trying
Speaker 2: so hard because some I don't know where I heard it.
Speaker 2: But at that age when you think about you know,
Speaker 2: like like you have a one year high school relationship,
Speaker 2: that is a much larger percentage of your life than
Speaker 2: if you're fifty and you had a one year relationship,
Speaker 2: and that much easier to get over. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to say it's pro and you're trying, you're figuring it out,
Speaker 2: you're learning.
Speaker 11: I agree.
Speaker 2: That would be my vote.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, All right, cool, Okay.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a quick break and give Jan's
Speaker 2: voice arrest and we're going to be back with Neil's pick.
Speaker 2: So stick around. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I don't think Neil is known for
Speaker 2: being cupid, like so, I don't know which the rest.
Speaker 4: Hi, Ay, he's gonna go. I beg to differ.
Speaker 2: I will sit back and listen to everything you have
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if this will be a pro
Speaker 4: or con either, so I'll I'll well, let's get into
Speaker 4: it and you'll you'll see what I mean, because you know,
Speaker 4: my reputation here on the Rock and Roll History Show
Speaker 4: is the connoisseur of the obscure. And I think perhaps
Speaker 4: so we got Mercedes and Jan here. I think they
Speaker 4: might know the band in the song I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: We'll find out because for my Valentine's Day song, I
Speaker 4: went into the early days of New York City punk
Speaker 4: rock for a band called The Fast and a song
Speaker 4: called It's Like Love Now. The Fast were an American
Speaker 4: glam punk band that formed in New York City in
Speaker 4: the mid nineteen seventies, and, while never reaching the commercial
Speaker 4: heights of their contemporaries like the Ramones, Blondie or the
Speaker 4: Talking Heads. They were an influential part of the CBGB
Speaker 4: Maxis Kansas City scene when the New York City punk
Speaker 4: scene was still in its infancy. The fast sound and
Speaker 4: style blended nineteen sixties modpop with the use of synthesizer keyboards,
Speaker 4: sort of what you might call bubblegum power pop before
Speaker 4: the synthesizer would become a staple of what would soon
Speaker 4: be called new wave. Formed by brothers Mickey Zone and
Speaker 4: Mandy Zone, and later by a third brother, Paul Zone,
Speaker 4: they were joined by pretty much a rotating cast of
Speaker 4: musicians like so many bands, and they released their first single,
Speaker 4: Boys Will Be Boys in nineteen seventy six, which also
Speaker 4: appeared on an LP called Max's Kansas City nineteen seventy six,
Speaker 4: which was produced by Peter Crowley, who just happened to
Speaker 4: be the man who booked the bands at Max's at
Speaker 4: the time. So a little marketing there, I think so,
Speaker 4: And it was sort of Max's answer to the Live
Speaker 4: at CBGB's album that had come out not too long
Speaker 4: before that. Now, their second single, the song We're About
Speaker 4: to Hear called It's Like Love, was released in nineteen
Speaker 4: seventy seven and produced by Richard Gotderer, who had been
Speaker 4: a producer and a member of a band called The
Speaker 4: Strangeloves in the nineteen sixties and their hit I Want
Speaker 4: Candy was covered by Bow Wow Wow. In the nineteen eighties,
Speaker 4: he'd also just produced Blondie's debut album, and he would
Speaker 4: go on to work with the Go Gos as well.
Speaker 4: And Oh, by the way, I did buy the single
Speaker 4: when it came out, and yes I still have it.
Speaker 4: So let's feel a love. It's like love by the fast.
Speaker 12: Hurricane, blood drip for you while black, like an electric
Speaker 12: sex canning shifting like you dinner thing when.
Speaker 17: I did love me?
Speaker 15: Yes to take what to take?
Speaker 14: Maby made to say?
Speaker 12: I can say it's.
Speaker 17: Not makes feed like skirts may be as.
Speaker 12: Sound, excuse me?
Speaker 19: Thank you.
Speaker 12: Can see.
Speaker 10: With my name.
Speaker 17: And like loud and loud and loud and like love
Speaker 17: and like.
Speaker 4: H yeah, so what thing pro? I think it's like
Speaker 4: pro It's almost like a comic book or cartoon love song.
Speaker 4: You know, he can't take it too seriously when he's
Speaker 4: wondering if it's her hairspray or mouthwash that turns him on,
Speaker 4: you know, and you can't get away with lyrics like
Speaker 4: that anymore. Back then, I think you could.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and they did.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say pro it's so cute and lighthearted it is,
Speaker 8: and you know, kind of innocent love. It's just really sweet.
Speaker 8: I really like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you haven't signed any documentation, it's a verbal agreement
Speaker 2: at this point.
Speaker 4: So well, around nineteen seventy eight or nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 4: while performing in Boston at a place called the Rat
Speaker 4: Scaler or the Rat as they call it. It was
Speaker 4: kind of Boston's equivalent to like CBGB's and incidentally the
Speaker 4: same place I saw them play at around that same time,
Speaker 4: So go figure, I went to Boston to see a
Speaker 4: New York band. But that's how our run anyway. At
Speaker 4: that time up there, they were spotted by rick O
Speaker 4: Kasek of The Cars, who invited them to open for
Speaker 4: The Cars at a big stadium show in Portland, Maine.
Speaker 4: Shortly after that, he also decided to produce a record
Speaker 4: for them at the famed Electric Lady Studios in New
Speaker 4: York City, some of which wound up on their first
Speaker 4: LP called The Fast for Sale that was released in
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty Now by nineteen eighty three, the band was
Speaker 4: reduced to a duo and became known as Man to Man,
Speaker 4: using keyboards, electronics and backing tapes, and they performed dance
Speaker 4: music in some of New York City's larger dance clubs,
Speaker 4: as well as venues throughout the UK, South America, and Mexico.
Speaker 4: And the last thing I saw was that Paul's head
Speaker 4: recorded a song that featured vocals by Debbie Harry of Blondie,
Speaker 4: and it was called I'll Try Anything Once, and that
Speaker 4: was back in two thousand and eight. But there it is.
Speaker 11: I can add one thing to Paul zones bio.
Speaker 7: Paul Zone has several published books of photography.
Speaker 11: Excellent photographer.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 11: I know something, I knew all of them.
Speaker 7: Oh please, you mentioned Peter Crowley, you mentioned Richard Gotta
Speaker 7: or I don't even want to go on about the
Speaker 7: connections with all of them that.
Speaker 11: Are pertained to even the Nightcaps. But the guys in
Speaker 11: the fast Mickey Zone was one of the great guitar players.
Speaker 11: My only flaw, the only flaw in.
Speaker 7: Those records is that he was he loved Pete Townsend
Speaker 7: and he was like he would hang upside down.
Speaker 4: Sorry, oh it's funny. You should mention that beare because
Speaker 4: for the encore, the final song when I saw them,
Speaker 4: they did a version of I Can See for Miles,
Speaker 4: which knocked me out.
Speaker 11: Yeah. And he would hang upside down from the top
Speaker 11: of Marshall Stack with the back of his legs. Yes,
Speaker 11: and I mean at Max's, not just like in big places.
Speaker 11: At Max's all the time. They were like a house
Speaker 11: band at Maxes.
Speaker 8: Yeah, everybody needs a hobby.
Speaker 4: I loved the fast. Thank you so much for playing
Speaker 4: them my pleasure. I knew you would. I knew you
Speaker 4: would know them that. That's great. I'm so glad you
Speaker 4: were here to add that. That's great.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll set I don't want to step on anything, gotcha. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going to vote for I'm going to vote pro.
Speaker 15: S.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4: So we've got two pros. Now, this we're what's we're slipped.
Speaker 2: We're getting sentimental in our old age.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I know.
Speaker 3: The first song I did for the Valentine my first
Speaker 3: Valentine show on Remember Radio.
Speaker 5: I used to love her, but I had to kill her.
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember. You've lightened up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Whatever you're taking you should share with us.
Speaker 4: If I recall the first song I picked. I think
Speaker 4: it was Harry Nielsen and I said, you broke my heart,
Speaker 4: you tore it apart, so.
Speaker 2: You yeah, there was there was some editing that had
Speaker 2: to be done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I remember that one too, So yeah, there
Speaker 4: has been a shift here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lightening up, a little early dementia whatever, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just we're getting soft and we are we are
Speaker 2: all right. Thank you, Neil. That was a good one.
Speaker 9: John brough to you, Okay, I would think my selection
Speaker 9: tonight obviously is eleanor Rigby by the Beatles nineteen sixty six,
Speaker 9: and no, not the Alice Cooper version.
Speaker 12: And.
Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, I picked up on that one. I figured, no,
Speaker 9: I think I'm just gonna go with the original. But
Speaker 9: I would say this is not a pro Valentine's Day song,
Speaker 9: and I'd like to know what my fellow cranbones think
Speaker 9: of that. It's when you think about it, like the
Speaker 9: average person, not the music file, the average person drive
Speaker 9: it down the road and listen on the radio, doesn't
Speaker 9: even I think, pay attention to the lyrics. And I've
Speaker 9: talked a lot about that whole idea in a lot
Speaker 9: of my selections over the years.
Speaker 20: Here at Hudson River Radio.
Speaker 9: And so when you're kind of tapping along, you don't
Speaker 9: realize this is a very depressing song. It is a
Speaker 9: very it is you know, I'm I've seen some headshakings here, Mercedes.
Speaker 20: And you know, for one, you know what is this
Speaker 20: song focused on.
Speaker 9: It focuses on universal loneliness, unseen lives, dying alone, spiritual emptiness.
Speaker 9: So I gotta say, I'm gonna do Hudson River Radio
Speaker 9: a solid here, and I am going to bring this
Speaker 9: right down into the depression.
Speaker 20: And with that, Brian, why don't we just play the song.
Speaker 11: Ella?
Speaker 12: Except the horizon.
Speaker 2: You judge where a wedding is being It's in a dream.
Speaker 7: Wait's at the window wearing the face that he keeps.
Speaker 15: In a job by the dog. Who is it fall?
Speaker 12: All the lonely dude, they all come from, all the
Speaker 12: lonely people.
Speaker 14: Why do they all be loved?
Speaker 2: Father McKenzie writing the words.
Speaker 15: Of the sermon that no one will hear, no one
Speaker 15: comes near.
Speaker 19: Look at him working dunning his socks in the night
Speaker 19: when there's nobody there.
Speaker 14: What does he care?
Speaker 12: All the lonely people?
Speaker 11: Why do they all come?
Speaker 4: All the lovely people?
Speaker 19: But do they be love.
Speaker 14: At all the lovely people.
Speaker 12: Ah got all the love lead people.
Speaker 21: Elen Brigby died in the church and was married alone
Speaker 21: with her name.
Speaker 12: When he came McKenzie winding the dame from his hands
Speaker 12: as he watched from the grave.
Speaker 2: Hey, that was Eleanor Rigby.
Speaker 9: Obviously at the Beatles, Paul McCartney has the inspiration, said
Speaker 9: he was inspired by a lot of the lonely people
Speaker 9: he had known, creating fictional characters to explore their solitude.
Speaker 9: I think you can't get more lonely than that when
Speaker 9: you think about it. One interesting fact about the song.
Speaker 9: In Liverpool there is a grave for Eleanor Rigby, and
Speaker 9: nearby there is somebody by the name of Mackenzie, and
Speaker 9: Paul McCartney said he did not know that about those
Speaker 9: headstones in that cemetery in Liverpool at the time of
Speaker 9: the song's writing. He said, the idea to call his
Speaker 9: character Eleanor's possibly because of Eleanor Braun, the actress who
Speaker 9: starred with the Beatles in their nineteen sixty five film
Speaker 9: Help and Rigby, came from this from the name of
Speaker 9: a store in Bristol. In Bristol, Rigby and Evans limited,
Speaker 9: so interesting little backstory there. I don't know a lot
Speaker 9: of the details then some of the other people on
Speaker 9: this cast, but I know there's been a lot of other.
Speaker 10: Versions of the song and it's but if you want
Speaker 10: a song that is not a.
Speaker 20: Happy song, this is definitely it.
Speaker 9: But when you listen to the beat, when you listen
Speaker 9: to the music, and I am not a music file,
Speaker 9: it doesn't sound depressing. It sounds happy, you know, and
Speaker 9: you're tapping along and you're listening. But then you listen
Speaker 9: to the lyrics and you study the meeting, I'm like,
Speaker 9: damn me with some very lonely people, and I'll.
Speaker 4: Leave it at that.
Speaker 2: Wow and couch. Something about the song the Beatles in general.
Speaker 2: There were people at EMI that complained about this rock
Speaker 2: and roll nonsense. Yeah, And the rock and roll nonsense
Speaker 2: is what funded the classical music side of EMI's business.
Speaker 2: And then they used strings on eleanor rigby the classical
Speaker 2: players that were being subsidized by the Beatles to pay
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 20: We did a show, Brian, didn't.
Speaker 9: We did a show Brian recently that that discussed the
Speaker 9: whole theme of classical impl Yeah, classical music in rock.
Speaker 20: We talked about Beethoven.
Speaker 9: When you think about this, I mean there's a lot
Speaker 9: of classical in here, you know, and you know the
Speaker 9: tempo had For me it sounded a lot like almost
Speaker 9: like a little bit of Mozart in a lot of ways,
Speaker 9: just the way that earlier like a baroque yea or whatever,
Speaker 9: you know, with the tempo with the violins exactly it uh,
Speaker 9: it just it really expresses that.
Speaker 10: So I'm glad I was able to bring the show
Speaker 10: in Valentine's Day right down.
Speaker 2: Yes, so that's too, Yes, one squarely no, Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: Barber's up next. I have a gut feeling I know
Speaker 2: which direction she's gonna go.
Speaker 5: Well, let's see, we're going down, all right.
Speaker 1: Well, the song I picked, I'm pretty sure you're all
Speaker 1: gonna know the direction we're going. It's called I'm So
Speaker 1: Sick of You.
Speaker 5: And it's We're We're well.
Speaker 1: And the reason I chose it is because Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: may not necessarily be a happy holiday for everyone. As
Speaker 1: for me personally, my parents were married on Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty and after my father passed at just
Speaker 1: fifty six years old, my mom would always pay tribute
Speaker 1: to him on Valentine's Day by making sure that she
Speaker 1: would give my brother and I was candy and we
Speaker 1: would have her own little quiet celebration. She did this
Speaker 1: every year for the rest of her life. So Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day has since been pretty much bittersweet for me. And
Speaker 1: also how many of us have been in bad relationships?
Speaker 4: Never?
Speaker 1: No, no, So I think I think nearly all of
Speaker 1: us have at least once, and listenings at least and
Speaker 1: listening to the lyrics in the song I'm So sick
Speaker 1: of you? Uh you think that he's singing about one
Speaker 1: doozy of a bad relationship. So a little bit about
Speaker 1: weird Al because we've done an entire show about weird
Speaker 1: Al and played a number of his songs before. So
Speaker 1: I'm sure our listeners and especially my fellow Crimbones may
Speaker 1: remember some basic facts about weird Al. Let's see. Let's
Speaker 1: see what you remember now. He was born Alfred Matthew
Speaker 1: Yakovic nineteen fifty nine in what Stayed Everybody, California, Really California.
Speaker 2: Yeah, never mind, he's going on. He's extending his tour
Speaker 2: from last year to where we saw him. Actually Harbor
Speaker 2: saw him too. You saw him and then we went
Speaker 2: up to Saratoga to see him, so highly recommended.
Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. It was one of the best
Speaker 1: concerts I've ever seen, and it was it was a
Speaker 1: place where everybody in the audience was just as weird
Speaker 1: as I am. Nice and it felt like coming home.
Speaker 2: I we got we got there, We got into the
Speaker 2: parking lot, and I changed into my ridiculous Hawaiian shirt
Speaker 2: that I keep just for that occasion, and my daughter
Speaker 2: was so embarrassed until she looked around and everybody else
Speaker 2: changing into their Hawaiian shirts, and then realized that I
Speaker 2: am in the crowd.
Speaker 1: You have not succeeded until you've embarrassed your child. Perfect perfect, Okay,
Speaker 1: so weird. Al is known for his comedy music, his
Speaker 1: comedy songs which are parodies, and also he's done original
Speaker 1: works and also does anybody know what other kind of
Speaker 1: music is famous for polka songs. He's known for his trademark,
Speaker 1: which instrument accordian accordians all right, and who remembers how
Speaker 1: he came about acquiring said accordions.
Speaker 2: Salesman knocked at the door selling accordions and guitars, and
Speaker 2: the parents chose an accordion because they.
Speaker 1: Thought it was more rock and roll than the guitar
Speaker 1: blows me away every time. So does anybody remember.
Speaker 2: How he got his start Doctor Demento?
Speaker 1: Doctor Demento At the age of sixteen in nineteen seventy six,
Speaker 1: he I think Doctor Demento showed up at his high
Speaker 1: school and he managed to slip him the tape. Does
Speaker 1: anybody know the song that he said that he gave
Speaker 1: to doctor very That comes a little later, though, I'm close,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll get to that the very you just
Speaker 1: answered another question though. The song was Bilvidere Cruising, written
Speaker 1: about his family's car, am Belvedere. In nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 1: while attending college and working at the university radio station,
Speaker 1: Al went to the restroom across the hall from said
Speaker 1: radio station because it had great acoustics, and recorded the
Speaker 1: parody titled My Ballogna. He sent the recording to Doctor
Speaker 1: Demento and it led to Capitol Records, giving Yankovic a
Speaker 1: six month recording contract. It was then that weird Al
Speaker 1: thought maybe he should ditch his major. Anybody know what
Speaker 1: his major was in college?
Speaker 2: Architecture?
Speaker 1: Architecture?
Speaker 3: Very good Goldstein, you have a fan here, so I.
Speaker 2: Am always ready for pop quizes, because after what I
Speaker 2: do to all of you, I know it's coming at.
Speaker 1: Some points exactly exactly. So I figured instead of just
Speaker 1: writing down the same facts that we've all heard time
Speaker 1: and time again, I figured I just quizzed everybody. So
Speaker 1: it was at this time that word all thought, Hey, baby,
Speaker 1: I should ditch architecture as my major and pursue a
Speaker 1: career in music, which brings us to our Valentine's song
Speaker 1: I'm So Sick of You, released in nineteen ninety six
Speaker 1: on the album Bad Hair Day.
Speaker 16: You tell Joel Gamble gimp on fine why you always
Speaker 16: rested my time?
Speaker 12: Hey baby, trust me, you just discuss me. Your hands
Speaker 12: a mess and you'll make up crusted.
Speaker 16: I don't know too many females. You make a habit
Speaker 16: of biting the toenails. Who every time you call you
Speaker 16: tell me of the walk on it just the side
Speaker 16: of the leagues on this gla shall we be heaving together?
Speaker 12: Him?
Speaker 2: Only one little they weren't you?
Speaker 12: Baby? I don't say to you.
Speaker 16: You make a mail grand room. Godd are you keeping
Speaker 16: your god?
Speaker 12: You belcher everywhere thousand of the earth, you are raising
Speaker 12: a shake a bad dad.
Speaker 16: You don't have announce the plast You're just the one thing.
Speaker 12: Pean of the neck. How much walk can I take?
Speaker 16: Naw, give me a break now, dude, even snow away
Speaker 16: you're wide away.
Speaker 12: Now you tell like a friends where the bird become? Well,
Speaker 12: maybe you should get up on. Maybe I have a
Speaker 12: second you maybe syne so sing of you?
Speaker 16: And when you're something, oh my name, it's like I'm
Speaker 16: listening to what's meet me?
Speaker 12: Chuck sound?
Speaker 16: And when you're looking at me in that special way,
Speaker 16: it's how A mean? And keep my dunchdown.
Speaker 12: And when you ask me what I'm thinking, honey, usually
Speaker 12: I'm thinking.
Speaker 21: How I really like Anya?
Speaker 12: And completely I've been dunking for I wouldn't have to
Speaker 12: listen to you. Welcome those two quid questions.
Speaker 14: Over and over.
Speaker 16: Guys, We'll let discuss the noise you make when you laugh,
Speaker 16: kift being.
Speaker 12: Robbing my grains? That just my chas dance.
Speaker 5: Dance until you came up.
Speaker 12: I'm not devidated anyone that's low on.
Speaker 20: The food chance and my just dance.
Speaker 12: And you got a hum in anybody? Oh there, you
Speaker 12: got the hair of a bus of promoter. Get your
Speaker 12: teas or yellow your buzz made of yellow. You wake
Speaker 12: up in a bottle doing on your bill.
Speaker 16: I hain't no way you crack your knuckles.
Speaker 17: I hate your whin you cercle. Friends to the well,
Speaker 17: say ay, so second you.
Speaker 12: Really?
Speaker 14: Now you're recodating, I'm.
Speaker 17: So second you.
Speaker 12: Not you irritated?
Speaker 14: My ay, I'm so second you?
Speaker 12: Well, I want to get there, gonna sayne I'm so you.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm sound sick of you is a parody
Speaker 1: of the style of Elvis Costello, particularly the song's radio
Speaker 1: radio no Action and pump it Up. This was confirmed
Speaker 1: by Yankovic in a nineteen ninety nine interview and did
Speaker 1: anyone catch the mind rhyme contained in the song? Anyone
Speaker 1: know what a mind rhyme is? I know, I talked
Speaker 1: about it before. It's when you hear a line in
Speaker 1: a song or poem and expect the next line to
Speaker 1: contain but it doesn't, And it's This is usually used
Speaker 1: to fool the listener and to expect things to hear color,
Speaker 1: colorful language, and then going in a different direction. I
Speaker 1: did a whole episode of shaving cream on mine rhymes
Speaker 1: if you want to hear more? And yes, SE's absolutely right.
Speaker 3: Miss Susie had Steamboat miss Less, Miss Lucy.
Speaker 8: I mentioned it.
Speaker 12: I didn't.
Speaker 11: I didn't play it, but I mentioned, yeah, I used
Speaker 11: to do that, right, Patty song. Yeah, yep, the Handsler.
Speaker 1: So the mind rhyme, like you said, is found in
Speaker 1: the lines. You don't have an ounce of class. You're
Speaker 1: just one big pain in the neck. And I'd like
Speaker 1: to close by saying that, as of twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: Yankovic has sold more than twelve million albums, recorded over
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty parties and original songs, and performed
Speaker 1: over two thousand live shows. And he's still going. And
Speaker 1: when we were given this topic, this is the song
Speaker 1: that immediately came to mind.
Speaker 2: Nice Nice. He sold out Madison Square Garden and he
Speaker 2: was just blown away himself, you know which, none of
Speaker 2: us are surprised. And there are a group of us
Speaker 2: that I'm sure Barber's in that would love to see
Speaker 2: him do the super Bowl halftime show. Oh god, there
Speaker 2: have been petitions to get Weird Alt to do that,
Speaker 2: and he said he would do.
Speaker 20: It, really yes, but oh my god, that would be wonderful.
Speaker 2: Right it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So maybe I got to thank you for playing this.
Speaker 11: I would never have sought this out and this song.
Speaker 11: I love this song. I'm like going to go find
Speaker 11: it and download it right now. I mean, by a
Speaker 11: copy of it right now.
Speaker 4: I was trying to make a list of how many
Speaker 4: times I would have sung that to someone else and
Speaker 4: how many times it would have been sung to me.
Speaker 4: But I think the latter has has a higher really.
Speaker 1: Because when I listened to that song, I try to
Speaker 1: pick out all the things he's complaining about that I'm
Speaker 1: actually guilty of doing.
Speaker 4: Well. I draw the line at that at biting your tone.
Speaker 12: No, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't need to shave any back hair, and I
Speaker 1: don't bite my toenails. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'd love to be able to bite my toenails.
Speaker 11: As the kids say, I'm going to go with six
Speaker 11: seven on that.
Speaker 1: I paid too much money for my invisil lines to
Speaker 1: bite my toenails.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I don't think I can. I'm not that, you know.
Speaker 11: Okay, that's.
Speaker 1: I'm not that limber either.
Speaker 5: Well, that's what I was getting at. It would be
Speaker 5: it would be quite a feat.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing some barber march. I paid too much for
Speaker 2: my visile line to bite my toenails. Tell me that
Speaker 2: doesn't belong on a T shirt.
Speaker 11: Oh boy, thanks last my day?
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Barbara excellent. Yeah, I know he extended.
Speaker 2: It's technically the same tour as last year, so I
Speaker 2: know the dates are posted. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be able to make it again this year, but
Speaker 2: if you haven't seen him live, it's totally worth it.
Speaker 2: This time, he's got an expanded band. It's the same
Speaker 2: core band that he's played with since day one, but
Speaker 2: he's added more musicians. He's doing the costume changes, all
Speaker 2: the hits, so some of the deep cuts like this,
Speaker 2: totally worth it. And we're not even being sponsored to
Speaker 2: say that. So and I have a Hawaiian shirt if
Speaker 2: you need to borrow it. So with everybody else, all right,
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a second, real quick break, and we've
Speaker 2: got two more to go, So stick around Hudson Riverradio
Speaker 2: dot com.
Speaker 11: Your dad likes us, Hudson River Radio dot com.
Speaker 2: All right, two more Valentine selections to go. We're up
Speaker 2: to Gail, and I'm gonna guess Anti before we even start.
Speaker 8: What makes you say that we've met several years?
Speaker 1: Well, color me surprised.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just going to cast my vote before we
Speaker 2: even start.
Speaker 8: But well, I think this is neutral or something. I
Speaker 8: think it's meant to be pro. But I think it's neutral.
Speaker 5: This will will be will be the judge of that.
Speaker 8: Hey, this this song did not chart. It's not on
Speaker 8: a record label. I was looking for various and sundry
Speaker 8: different sort of topics within this topic and I couldn't
Speaker 8: find anything that fit what I was looking for. And
Speaker 8: when I saw the first line of this song in
Speaker 8: my Google search, I I had to use ish because
Speaker 8: the name of the song and the first line is
Speaker 8: if our love was some swamp gas, it would make
Speaker 8: a sweet sound.
Speaker 2: That's deep.
Speaker 8: The singer songwriter is Brian Odin, and he started writing
Speaker 8: songs when he was a kid growing up in Oklahoma
Speaker 8: and spending his summers in the Colorado Mountains. Some songs
Speaker 8: were funny and others were straight from the heart. He said,
Speaker 8: none of them were very good, but that process of
Speaker 8: being in a created creative move and writing a funny song,
Speaker 8: and also of walking in the woods and having a
Speaker 8: real heart song come to me that has never really
Speaker 8: gone away.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 8: He has been all kinds of different things.
Speaker 4: For a day job.
Speaker 8: Over the years he's been he was spent four years
Speaker 8: as a childcare counselor and supervisor at a treatment center
Speaker 8: for children. He taught English as a second language at
Speaker 8: the college level. He was at one point a self
Speaker 8: employed internet entrepreneur. He also earned a master's degree in
Speaker 8: educational psychology with an emphasis on teaching English as a
Speaker 8: second language. His focus on recording and sharing his mostly
Speaker 8: children's songs is a recent development. He says, Once in
Speaker 8: a while, I would sing songs at family or social gatherings,
Speaker 8: and I had a few concerts here and there, but
Speaker 8: that was about it. I've always loved writing and sharing songs,
Speaker 8: but it never seemed like a realistic way to pay
Speaker 8: the bills, so it was always in the background. He
Speaker 8: started putting his songs on YouTube in January two thousand
Speaker 8: and nine. His YouTube channel now has over sixty million
Speaker 8: video views. Wow, he said, I hope to keep writing
Speaker 8: and recording more songs. I really enjoy creating and sharing
Speaker 8: both kinds of songs, the fun ones and the ones
Speaker 8: that come from a deeper place. And it's been a
Speaker 8: nice surprise to me that based on the comments on
Speaker 8: YouTube and on my site, he has his own website.
Speaker 8: Some of the songs I think of as just light
Speaker 8: fun are sometimes really They sometimes really change someone's mood
Speaker 8: or even get them through a really difficult time. That
Speaker 8: kind of thing has been a really nice surprise and
Speaker 8: definitely makes song drops. That's another one of the sites,
Speaker 8: besides YouTube, more rewarding for me. So in terms of
Speaker 8: future plans, hopefully I'll be fortunate enough to keep on
Speaker 8: creating and recording and sharing songs. Now, you might want
Speaker 8: to listen to these lyrics as carefully as you can.
Speaker 8: I'll mention the first verse. This came out in twenty
Speaker 8: twenty three. If our love was some swampcass, it would
Speaker 8: make a sweet sound. If our love was a skunk bush,
Speaker 8: it would stay on the ground. If our love was
Speaker 8: a camel, it wouldn't much fish. If our love was
Speaker 8: an outhouse, it would smell like a barbecue pit. Speaking
Speaker 8: speaking of.
Speaker 1: Mind, oh, I thought you were gonna give us a
Speaker 1: wine rise.
Speaker 8: I wrote this sweet love song special for you since
Speaker 8: I forgot your birthday. It's the least I can do.
Speaker 8: And the other verses are very much like this, so
Speaker 8: let's give it a listen. I just think it's cute
Speaker 8: and funny.
Speaker 6: I was some swampcass, it would make those sweet sound.
Speaker 2: Hipper was a skunk, but give it.
Speaker 12: A on the ground.
Speaker 6: Hipper Love was a camel, much hipper s would smell
Speaker 6: like a barbie. I wrote this sweet love song special
Speaker 6: you since I forg got your birthdays.
Speaker 7: But bease tick to the dude.
Speaker 6: I love you as far as a jerkey can die.
Speaker 17: I love you as.
Speaker 6: Long as a lizard stays dry.
Speaker 14: I love you as strong as a turtle can swim.
Speaker 6: I love you as deep as the doo doo live man.
Speaker 6: If I Love was a cockroach could jump really high.
Speaker 6: If I Love was a mushroom, it would be a
Speaker 6: fun guy. If I Love was bread food and it
Speaker 6: would hardly have bolt. If for love wasn't a house,
Speaker 6: it would be made of gold. I wrote this sweet
Speaker 6: love song special for you next time.
Speaker 12: I love this your brand new herty.
Speaker 6: I love you as far as a jerkey can die.
Speaker 6: I love you as long as a lizard stays dry.
Speaker 6: I love you as strong as a turtle can swim.
Speaker 6: I love you as deep as the doo Doo live man.
Speaker 6: If A Love was a chicken, they would have forty weeds.
Speaker 6: If a load was a cow pie, it would make noses.
Speaker 6: See if our love was a trash, Nope, it would
Speaker 6: have no dead knife. If a load was an out house,
Speaker 6: it would have no horse flies. I wrote this sweet
Speaker 6: love song.
Speaker 12: Special for you. I think I must spelled your name
Speaker 12: on my dooming tattoos.
Speaker 6: Good A long you as far as a turkey can find,
Speaker 6: A long you, as long as a bizards. These drive
Speaker 6: among you less strong as a turtle and swim.
Speaker 15: I love you as deep as a doot.
Speaker 6: I mean, if a love was a camel, they would
Speaker 6: have much pits. If a log wasn't out house, it
Speaker 6: was spelled.
Speaker 14: Like a barber.
Speaker 11: You bit.
Speaker 6: I wrote this sweet love song special for you. Don't
Speaker 6: think me, just make me more corn bread and stud.
Speaker 20: That was that was great, off off.
Speaker 8: I saw those lyrics and I just had to pick
Speaker 8: this one.
Speaker 2: I think there needs to be more songs about skunk butts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you see I think this I think was
Speaker 4: This was definitely a positive song.
Speaker 2: It's a curveball. I think it's completely positive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he went, guy, he went, he went,
Speaker 4: you know, in college and higher education to write this stuff? Right?
Speaker 11: Was that?
Speaker 4: Thank you? Just checking, just checking so I think.
Speaker 5: His voice.
Speaker 8: No, I don't think so. I don't know whose voice
Speaker 8: that is. But it was very funny.
Speaker 5: It was great.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it sounds like it was sped up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, little wizard. So that was cute.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna be running around singing that at work, which
Speaker 8: please please make my colleagues wonder about me even more
Speaker 8: than they already.
Speaker 11: And I even certed it into my year, So thank you.
Speaker 2: You're going to add it to the setlist next time around.
Speaker 8: Yes, I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, write down, I love it?
Speaker 4: Got it.
Speaker 2: Excellent? All right? Thanks Gil.
Speaker 8: So that that's the kind of counteract eleanor h Yeah,
Speaker 8: a palette cleanser.
Speaker 2: I mean, overall, we only have one negative so far,
Speaker 2: we're all going soft.
Speaker 7: I always I'm gonna say, I always thought Eleanor Maybe
Speaker 7: it's just my optimistic streak, but I always thought the
Speaker 7: people in eleanor Rigby were pining for lost love.
Speaker 11: You know, that they had actually had great love.
Speaker 7: And I kind of always took it as a you know,
Speaker 7: that loneliness rather than the loneliness.
Speaker 11: Of complete isolation. But that just might be my you know,
Speaker 11: my prism.
Speaker 9: No, I think I like that whole whole theme because
Speaker 9: they're kind of pining for the past in a lot
Speaker 9: of ways.
Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, you can't know that. You can't know
Speaker 4: loneliness if you haven't experienced you know, love love.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, I guess I always assumed a backstory
Speaker 7: for each of these people.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 7: That's it.
Speaker 11: But I loved hearing it. It's always good to hear
Speaker 11: that song. And that version where they striped Jath back
Speaker 11: to the strings is really nice to hear.
Speaker 2: Very cool. All Right, we got one more to go.
Speaker 11: Wait?
Speaker 2: Is it going to balance out the voting? Is it
Speaker 2: going to go?
Speaker 5: I don't think it can.
Speaker 2: I don't know that's true. I don't think it can.
Speaker 2: I honestly think mine could go either way. And I
Speaker 2: think it's kind of age based and it depends on
Speaker 2: the story that not a whole lot of people go.
Speaker 2: So take a walk with me, if you would. My
Speaker 2: song is called Into the Night by Benny Mardonez. You
Speaker 2: may or may not have heard it. We'll do a
Speaker 2: real quick bio on Benny. He was born Ruben armand
Speaker 2: Mardonas in nineteen forty six in Cleveland. His father abandoned
Speaker 2: the family when Benny was an infant and returned to
Speaker 2: his native Chile. Benny grew up in Maryland, graduating high
Speaker 2: school in nineteen sixty four and a listing in the
Speaker 2: US Navy. He served in Vietnam. After being discharged, he
Speaker 2: moved to New York City to pursue a singer songwriter
Speaker 2: career and wound up writing songs for people like Brenda Lee,
Speaker 2: best known for Rocking around the Christmas Tree, and for
Speaker 2: Chubby Checker, who you may have heard of. He would
Speaker 2: record demos of the songs that he wrote. Common practice
Speaker 2: record the demos to pass on to the artists so
Speaker 2: they could hear what the songs sound like, and some
Speaker 2: of the demos came to the attention of Tommy Mottola
Speaker 2: at Sony, which owns Columbia Records, and Tommy Mottolis told
Speaker 2: Benny he should be recording his own songs. So Benny
Speaker 2: Benny Mardone is put together a band called the Hurricanes.
Speaker 2: He got signed to Polydor Records, which is a British
Speaker 2: subdivision of hemith umg. In nineteen eighty Benny co wrote
Speaker 2: the song Into the Night with Robert Tepper, who has
Speaker 2: his own story we could talk about Another Time, and
Speaker 2: the song was released on his second album titled Never Run,
Speaker 2: Never Hide. The song hit number eleven on the Billboard
Speaker 2: Hot one hundred back when radio was king, and it
Speaker 2: launched Benny into the big time. But unfortunately, substance abuse,
Speaker 2: mostly cocaine, brought him right back down to the point
Speaker 2: where Polydor wound up dropping him. He was a complete
Speaker 2: mess until nineteen eighty five when his son Michael was born,
Speaker 2: and that prompted him to straighten up. A friend helped
Speaker 2: him move to Syracuse, New York and start over, and
Speaker 2: Benny became a local celebrity and made a good living
Speaker 2: performing in the Syracuse area in Central in Central New
Speaker 2: York for many years now. Four years later, nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 2: a Phoenix radio station k ZZP had a show common
Speaker 2: show common format called where Are They Now? And they
Speaker 2: played this song because it was nine years old already.
Speaker 2: That prompted Scott Shannon, a major figure in pop radio,
Speaker 2: to add it to his playlist while he was working
Speaker 2: out in Los Angeles. For those who may not recognize
Speaker 2: the name Scott Shannon, he invented the morning Zoo format.
Speaker 2: He's the one who made Z one hundred in New
Speaker 2: York City the top radio station. There's a pretty cool
Speaker 2: documentary called From Worse to First about Z one hundred,
Speaker 2: and it focuses on the work that Scott Shannon did,
Speaker 2: so Scott to him, Yeah, yeah, Z one hundred. He
Speaker 2: went over to WPLJ and then he went over to
Speaker 2: CBS FM, and then he retired.
Speaker 11: Now, yeah, it's a big station on one of the
Speaker 11: satellite Yeah, he's.
Speaker 2: Always done that. He's always one of the side gigs.
Speaker 2: He's always done all these kind of stuff like syndicated
Speaker 2: old these shows for regular broadcast radio stations and now
Speaker 2: streaming and online. So he's not completely retired, but he
Speaker 2: stepped away from broadcast radio. So he put it Into
Speaker 2: the Night into his playlist and everybody followed Scott Shannon,
Speaker 2: so they started putting it in their playlist and it
Speaker 2: took off again. Benny was signed to Curb Records. He
Speaker 2: re recorded the song as Into the Night eighty nine
Speaker 2: and it hit number twenty again on the charts. It's
Speaker 2: only it's only one of ten songs that charted twice
Speaker 2: like that, so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 5: Good for him.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Benny Mardonez continued to tour and perform until about twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: He was battling Parkinson's disease, and he wound up getting
Speaker 2: injured from repeated slips and falls, which unfortunately accompanied that
Speaker 2: he had multiple surgeries and it just kind of snowballed
Speaker 2: into bigger problems and he wound up passing away in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. If you want a tear jerker moment, you
Speaker 2: can go on YouTube because somebody posted the last time
Speaker 2: he sang this song at the Turningstone Casino in Central
Speaker 2: New York and you can see his hands were shaking
Speaker 2: and he's in tears as he's introducing the song. This
Speaker 2: is the last time I'm going to sing this in public.
Speaker 2: Please sing it with me, and everybody sang it with him,
Speaker 2: so even if you have a heart of stone, it's
Speaker 2: kind of a tear jerker. So over his career, Benny
Speaker 2: put out twelve studio albums and five live albums, and
Speaker 2: that's pretty good on top of other one off recording projects.
Speaker 2: And now, as far as the song goes, it's the
Speaker 2: first line that may sway your opinion one way or another,
Speaker 2: but I will say that the first line is also misunderstood,
Speaker 2: so bear with me as we tell the story. The
Speaker 2: song starts with the line she's just sixteen years old.
Speaker 2: Leave her alone. They said, Oh wait, I can understand.
Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah, but here comes the story for me.
Speaker 2: I was fifteen when the song was released a second time,
Speaker 2: and when you're fifteen, hitting sixteen is huge, especially in
Speaker 2: New York, because at sixteen you get your driver's license,
Speaker 2: you get some autonomy, you know, like high school graduations,
Speaker 2: kind of like the light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 2: So it didn't bother me. I kind of got it,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't thinking about how old the singer was
Speaker 2: at the time. And it's a song where you can
Speaker 2: understand the lyrics, you can understand what he's saying, and
Speaker 2: the lyrics spoke to me.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 2: The style is a bit of a throwback to the
Speaker 2: nineteen fifties duop, which I was into in high school
Speaker 2: because I'm a complete nerd. The backup singer style, the
Speaker 2: chord progression, and I think you'll hear definitely that fifties
Speaker 2: style when we listen to the track. And remember the
Speaker 2: fifties wasn't that long before the song first came out
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty, so it wasn't that long ago. The
Speaker 2: co writer, Robert Tepper is actually a backup singer on
Speaker 2: the song as well. So with that opening line and
Speaker 2: with the lyrics being easily misunderstood out of context, people
Speaker 2: got a little upset about what they assumed to be
Speaker 2: the subject matter of the song, which is an old
Speaker 2: dude lusting after a sixteen year old, and in fact,
Speaker 2: many radio stations would not play the song because of
Speaker 2: that until Polydor Records issued a statement explaining the origin
Speaker 2: of the song. They sent out over three thousand letters
Speaker 2: the different radio stations explaining what the actual story of
Speaker 2: the song is, and then they started playing the song.
Speaker 2: On top of that, many programmed directors at R and
Speaker 2: B stations when they heard the song, they thought Benny
Speaker 2: was black, so they put it into rotation, and when
Speaker 2: they found out he was not, He's a white guy,
Speaker 2: they pulled the record, so it kind of tanked on
Speaker 2: the R and B side. So here's a recap of
Speaker 2: the story behind the song. I mentioned it. He co
Speaker 2: wrote it with Robert Tepper. They were at Benny's apartment
Speaker 2: in Spanish Harlem in New York City while they were
Speaker 2: working on writing songs for the next album. Their neighbors
Speaker 2: included a family of five. The father of the family
Speaker 2: made it big as a Broadway set designer, and then
Speaker 2: apparently ran off with one of the dancers in one
Speaker 2: of the shows, just completely abandoning the family, leaving the
Speaker 2: mom and three teenagers, two girls and a boy. They
Speaker 2: had nothing. The father was the sole income for the
Speaker 2: family and he was gone. Benny was already established at
Speaker 2: this point. He was making a good living and he
Speaker 2: wanted to help out this family, so he would pay
Speaker 2: the kids to do jobs like go grocery shopping for him,
Speaker 2: walking the dog. And the girl who walked his dog
Speaker 2: was and still is named Heidi. She was sixteen. One
Speaker 2: morning before school, she came over to walk the dog,
Speaker 2: and as she was leaving, Tepper made an off the
Speaker 2: cuff comment about her appearance, and Benny said, pal, she
Speaker 2: is sixteen years old, leave her alone, and then bing
Speaker 2: the light bulb goes off because songwriters have light bulb
Speaker 2: moments like that. I can never have a light moment
Speaker 2: like that, even with all my woody comments, I never
Speaker 2: come up with anything like that. So he started building
Speaker 2: a story off that line, She's just sixteen years old,
Speaker 2: Leave her alone. The chorus goes, if I could fly,
Speaker 2: I'd lift you up and take you into the night
Speaker 2: and show you a love like you've never seen. You
Speaker 2: can misinterpret that as I'm an old guy taking this
Speaker 2: young girl, but that's not what he meant by it.
Speaker 2: It's about lifting the family out of poverty, showing you
Speaker 2: a love like you've never seen. Is your father abandoned
Speaker 2: you and you don't know what it's like to have
Speaker 2: a good father. So that was his approach to the
Speaker 2: story behind the song. Benny did a lot of interviews
Speaker 2: specifically about the song, and a lot of those interviews
Speaker 2: he brought Heidi with him to sit there and explain,
Speaker 2: to actually justify what he was talking about. He was
Speaker 2: very happy to explain the backstory to the song. As
Speaker 2: luck would have it, Heidi would go on to marry
Speaker 2: into a wealthy family in Puerto Rico and her whole
Speaker 2: family wound up moving there, so they all had a
Speaker 2: success story as well. Her brothers got jobs with the
Speaker 2: wealthy family and all that kind of stuff, so turned
Speaker 2: out happy for them. It's Benny's vocals that really stand
Speaker 2: out on this track. He did the whole song in
Speaker 2: three takes. There are a number of standout vocal fills
Speaker 2: in the song, especially a bridge in the middle, and
Speaker 2: as you recall, I mentioned that he recorded demos for
Speaker 2: songs that he wrote so other people could hear what
Speaker 2: it would kind of sound like. Those vocals were supposed
Speaker 2: to be a guide for a saxophone solo, which was
Speaker 2: common practice. I'm gonna sing this, then the sax player
Speaker 2: had to pick it up, like Jen was saying that
Speaker 2: he did with his song sing it Warren's pick it
Speaker 2: out and play it well. After they were done, the
Speaker 2: producer was quoted saying, we won't be using a saxophone
Speaker 2: on this record the way Benny sang it was.
Speaker 11: Been horrified momentarily.
Speaker 2: I can imagine, but I think when you hear the track,
Speaker 2: you can understand why the decision was made. So let's
Speaker 2: check out. This is the original one, not the re
Speaker 2: recording from eighty nine. This is the original nineteen eighty recording.
Speaker 2: Into the Night Bye Benny Mardonez.
Speaker 13: She's just sixteen years old. Leave you no, they said,
Speaker 13: sad readed that.
Speaker 4: You don't know what.
Speaker 19: It is ya, but I want you to know, lad good,
Speaker 19: I thank you, thank you to the night. It jell
Speaker 19: you love, thank you name say and say. It's like
Speaker 19: having a dream.
Speaker 21: Nobody it has a home. It's heaving it all, watching
Speaker 21: it fall, and I.
Speaker 12: Would wait to be time for you.
Speaker 11: Do it?
Speaker 14: Looka It's true.
Speaker 12: I can't imagin my love.
Speaker 15: Stuffing, just the baby.
Speaker 11: That I want you.
Speaker 12: I'm think you.
Speaker 14: I'll take you into your life.
Speaker 15: I'll show you, I'm dig you, I take you into
Speaker 15: the night.
Speaker 12: In shall you name scene?
Speaker 14: I'm seeing I go by not Biggie thinking n.
Speaker 12: Y should be.
Speaker 14: My ha big.
Speaker 12: And digging.
Speaker 2: Chance got his lighter out, an actual old school lighter,
Speaker 2: you know they made those still, So what'd you think?
Speaker 20: Yeah, I would not.
Speaker 9: Say that would be a pro Valentine's song given the
Speaker 9: the theme. I would have to I don't know, you know, folks,
Speaker 9: what do you all think?
Speaker 4: I would question whether it was a Valentine's you know
Speaker 4: song at all, being that it's kind of you know,
Speaker 4: the whole sixteen year old thing. You know, But why
Speaker 4: didn't they just change that lyric? It would have It
Speaker 4: would have changed the whole perspective of the song. And
Speaker 4: because otherwise, I mean, the production is magnificent, you know,
Speaker 4: the scene is all it has everything going forward except
Speaker 4: that you know which, And in my mind.
Speaker 3: He was paying tribute to like a real person and
Speaker 3: a real story.
Speaker 7: I sat Valentine wasn't all necessarily about romance.
Speaker 11: It was about love.
Speaker 5: Can heads off, wasn't it pretty much?
Speaker 11: You know, you gotta overlook the whole.
Speaker 2: You pick the part you like and go with that.
Speaker 11: So you don't think style, right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: You don't think it's pro.
Speaker 3: Who doesn't think it's pro?
Speaker 1: John doesn't?
Speaker 2: No, Well, I think when people guests stuck on that
Speaker 2: that sixteen year old line, even with the explanation. Now,
Speaker 2: of course some people just will not accept the explanation
Speaker 2: of the backstory and just think it's a pervy song.
Speaker 4: Well no, even even with the explanation, and you know,
Speaker 4: and even you know, sending out the letters and going
Speaker 4: not everybody is going to hear that, you know, not everybody.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 4: Now it's a different world now, you know, you put
Speaker 4: something out on the internet, Yeah it's gonna that didn't
Speaker 4: happen back then. That wasn't available. So you know, it
Speaker 4: was like maybe you were listening when he did the
Speaker 4: interview on the on the radio station or whatever. Maybe
Speaker 4: you weren't. Chances are you probably weren't. If there's you know,
Speaker 4: you got a million listeners, what they're not all listening
Speaker 4: at once, right in my case, none of them listened.
Speaker 7: So but I was seventeen when I heard that song,
Speaker 7: and I guess I didn't think about sixteen it's such
Speaker 7: a big deal, or fourteen is such a big deal.
Speaker 7: But I think of the song as kind of an
Speaker 7: expression of, you know, love, not romantic love.
Speaker 11: But I kind of I'm on the fence with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I was fifteen when it came out,
Speaker 2: so I was right at that age and didn't think
Speaker 2: about the singer's age or any of that. I just
Speaker 2: thought the lyrics were cool. Again, right, huh you think
Speaker 2: it's pro I would say, you know what, after knowing
Speaker 2: the story that it's about lifting a family out of poverty,
Speaker 2: it has actually nothing to do with it at all,
Speaker 2: which is the monkey wrench that I like to throw
Speaker 2: into everything.
Speaker 4: What was the year again?
Speaker 2: It first came out in nineteen eighty, and we listened
Speaker 2: to the nineteen eighty recording. He re recorded it in
Speaker 2: eighty nine, which.
Speaker 4: Was which is good.
Speaker 2: But it's a little different the same lyrics, same lyrics,
Speaker 2: different band.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a little older than fifteen in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 2: Right, So there you go. I think we're split on that,
Speaker 2: but overall, yeah, the crampbolts have got soft.
Speaker 4: We're all overall pro. We'll get them next to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got it to make us cranky.
Speaker 7: I want to thank you guys, Thank you guys for
Speaker 7: having me, because I hope I haven't overstepped in my.
Speaker 11: Experience. I'd like to leave you with one thing that
Speaker 11: I always think of when discussing these songs, and it's
Speaker 11: from Frank Zappa, and it's there's two songs. There's two
Speaker 11: times that all the songs on the radio are true
Speaker 11: when you're falling in love or breaking up.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Maxwell Silver, this has.
Speaker 11: Been a blast. I really enjoyed just hearing this stuff.
Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 11: This is great. Fellow music nerds.
Speaker 4: Thank you totally.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, join us.
Speaker 8: You got it, mot We're an interesting group.
Speaker 11: We can yes, you monsters meet the most interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my gosh. All right, excellent choices, Crambones. We'll have
Speaker 2: to pick a topic that shows our true cranky side
Speaker 2: in the near future, just so we balance it all out.
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