WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:01.439 Hi. My name is Tom Welling. 2 00:00:01.480 --> 00:00:03.879 I played Clark Kent on Smallville and you are listening 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:08.480 to Always hold on to Smallville. 4 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:53.359 Welcome to Always hold on to Smallville. In this podcast, 5 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:55.119 we talk about each and every episode of the Young 6 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:57.479 Superman Show that we're from two thousand and one to 7 00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:01.439 twenty eleven on the WB and the CW. I'm your host, 8 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:04.239 Sack Moore, and I'm drown by two guests for this 9 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:08.040 episode from the Krypton Report. Tyler Patrick, what's up? Tyler? 10 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:11.079 Hey, Zach glad to be back. We're in season ten. 11 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:13.359 I can't believe it. I was talking with my co host. 12 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:15.719 I told him how we were recording and I said, man, 13 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:19.400 I recorded with Zach back in season one. Yeah, And 14 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:21.200 I was like he was just getting started. And I 15 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:22.920 found him when we started chatting, and I was like, 16 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:25.719 now here, we're like his podcast has blown up and 17 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:28.840 it's been awesome, and now we're recording for season ten 18 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:29.840 and it's like, wow. 19 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:32.719 It is hard to believe. Right, You're not the only 20 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:35.079 returning to guests. We have longtime patron in front of 21 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:37.040 the show, John Curcio. What's up John? 22 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:39.959 Ah, very good and very good, very good. Zach happy 23 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.239 to be here. I think last time was almost at 24 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:44.359 the halfway point. I'm pretty sure, right. 25 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:47.640 Yeah, though I was very season four. Yeah, yeah, so 26 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:49.879 it was. It was forever so literally forever ago. 27 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.359 Yeah, it's been forever. It's perfect, John. 28 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:55.799 I don't think I've rewatched that episode since, and I'm 29 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:57.879 not sure if I will anytime soon. No offense to 30 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:02.439 that outisode likewise likewise House Wax. If I'm gonna watch 31 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:04.159 House of Wax, I'm gonna go watch House of Wax. 32 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:04.719 You know what I'm saying. 33 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.439 Yeah, yeah, both versions, that's true. That's true. 34 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:12.039 But hey, you said it, Tyler. We're here in season ten, 35 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:14.080 all right, second episode, so we had a long way 36 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.360 to go still, but we're here in the last chapter. So, 37 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:18.719 you know, John, let's start with you, man, what are 38 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:20.599 your thoughts on season ten and kind of where it 39 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:23.879 falls in the Greater Greater Smallville season ranking and just 40 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:25.800 kind of overall vibe of it all, like like, where 41 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:27.400 where's your fandom for season ten? 42 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:32.159 Interesting enough? I actually did season ten. It's insane. It's 43 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:34.439 almost schizophrenic, and that's actually kind of what I like 44 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:36.879 about it. I feel as though it's trying to do 45 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:40.360 everything when they started announcing all of the guest stars 46 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:42.879 and they were all coming back. I mean everybody from 47 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:45.080 like you know, Lucy Lane and Sam Lane all the 48 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:48.039 way to Lionel Luther. And I'm like, Okay, so this 49 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.520 is gonna be in Everybody in the Pool type season 50 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.360 and it's gonna be kind of crazy, and they try 51 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:56.240 to fit everything into this some episode, some of the 52 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:59.360 weaker ones didn't feel kind of like an old school 53 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:02.639 one off Monster the Week type episode. Then there's a 54 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:07.159 lot of mythology building episodes, even though we're literally hurtling 55 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.919 towards the end. And also I know they couldn't get 56 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:12.960 Michael Rosenbaum back for the entirety of the season, but 57 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:16.960 I do kind of like the mad scientist insanity of 58 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:22.000 the Clones, especially because like big, grandiose mad scientist plots 59 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:25.360 go back to classic Lex Luthor, like all the way back, 60 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:29.000 and so I kind of like when Michael's Lex gets 61 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:31.560 to do that. And since he did come back in 62 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:35.039 the season finale, the series finale, it kind of felt 63 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:38.599 pretty well bookended. I don't know overall, I enjoyed it. 64 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:42.560 I've only rewatched it once. This will be the secondary 65 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:46.840 watch so far. I'm still enjoying it. I understand a 66 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:50.000 lot of people's issues with it. It's qually not perfect. 67 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:52.159 And I know this usually ends up towards the end 68 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:54.759 of most people's lists, but I don't know. I kind 69 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:57.599 of dig it. I never I didn't get to bent 70 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:01.719 out of shape, even for some of their decisions, like 71 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:05.000 as you like to say, the John McCain death strip. 72 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:09.479 Yes he's coming, he's coming, He's close. I will say 73 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:11.319 on the kind of the Mad Scientists clone legs with 74 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:13.639 your stuff. I enjoyed that as well as a president 75 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.040 for it in the comic books, right, And look, the 76 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.000 creators and writers, they were faced with this impossible task, 77 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.240 and they did the best they could. They brought back 78 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:23.480 previous younger actors who had played Lex and kind of 79 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:26.600 played in that story. They're bringing an altered universe Linel 80 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:28.920 into this whole thing. Like, they did the best they could. 81 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:30.720 And Rose's moom coming back at the end kind of 82 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.279 made it all okay, right, Like if he hadn't come 83 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:34.959 back at the end, we would have been sitting here still, Like, 84 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:38.279 can you believe they used the guy that created Cyborg 85 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:39.879 as a Lex of the premiere? 86 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:40.360 Right? 87 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:43.560 And he was fine, And we talked about it in 88 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:46.279 last week's of Was Lazarus. It's like he was fine, 89 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:50.480 but it's interesting. Yeah, m McKenzie gray. He went to 90 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:52.480 play Jack Seward Man of Steel as well, so he 91 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:54.519 kept that schaef head. Look. I guess he liked it. 92 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:58.480 But and and again no offense to mackenzicate, right, but 93 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:01.279 you see that, and then you kind of imagine, like, man, 94 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:04.120 what if Rosebaum was saying those lines in those scenes, 95 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:05.720 just what it elevated so much It kind of makes 96 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:08.000 you appreciate when Michael brought down so much more too. 97 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:11.879 His cadence was so on. His cadence and mannerisms was 98 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:14.800 so on point. If you kind of if you kind 99 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.120 of stop half, if you kind of half pay attention 100 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:19.800 when you're doing something else, you almost your mind can 101 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.759 trickute into thinking that Michael's in the scene. Yeah, but yeah, 102 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:27.279 and throw a big throwback to Gene Hackman in the 103 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:30.240 in the premiere where he tells him he has to 104 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:34.199 choose between you know, which calamity he stops. 105 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.000 Even if great speed you can't save the. 106 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:39.079 Boss exactly exactly. I love it, And yeah, if Michael 107 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:41.319 was doing it, it would have been extra special. But 108 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.079 you know, as it stands out, it's pretty solid. 109 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.000 Yeah. Well, Tyler, what about you, man, how do you 110 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:48.959 how do you feel about season ten? 111 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:53.040 Well, when season ten first aired, a lot of what 112 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:56.399 was frustrating because I guess I had more expectations because 113 00:05:57.079 --> 00:05:59.240 it was the last season they even you know, premiered 114 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:04.160 like small the final season be there, you know. And 115 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:07.319 over time, I've probably watched this season with my wife 116 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:10.800 more than any of them, just because she really likes 117 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:15.279 Lois and since in this season it's very just it's 118 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:18.279 it's all in Clark and Lois stuff, so she always 119 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:20.920 likes to come back and watch this one, and it 120 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:22.879 is kind of all over the place. You know, we 121 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:25.279 have a lot of characters. There's a few things that 122 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.240 happen that I think they kind of dropped the ball 123 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:29.600 with a little bit with certain characters that kind of 124 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:36.040 just don't really get I think a good conclusion. But 125 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:38.879 I mean I like it. It's probably the least Smallville 126 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.680 Smallville season. This fact that there's so many characters in 127 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:48.600 this season that are taking place, and you know, there's 128 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:49.920 a few things that happen that are just kind of 129 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:52.560 like makes you question, like where'd that come from? Like 130 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:55.279 certain episodes. You're like, that doesn't quite make sense, but 131 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:59.439 you know what made some choices on the villain. I 132 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.240 like the idea of it. I think it's a great 133 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:05.160 way of introducing that character in a way of if 134 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.399 you had gone on longer to bring that character back, 135 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:09.759 don't want to you know, spoil but you know, we 136 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:11.519 all know what I'm talking about. Darts with the d 137 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:16.839 ends and aside, but I enjoy season ten. I mean 138 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:20.839 they really were like, Okay, we're gonna put pretty much 139 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:25.040 almost everything into this season, not holding much back. You know, 140 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:29.120 characters get introduced, ideas. It's it's very comic Bookie for 141 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:29.959 the final season. 142 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:34.199 Absolutely yeah, And it really kind of put like you 143 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.199 know you were talking about too, John, like it brings 144 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:39.000 all these characters back and it's like, okay, we got 145 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:41.360 to bring everybody back and the celebration of what we 146 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.439 were and all that sort of thing. And in that way, 147 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:45.319 it is very different than season nine. Season nine, it 148 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:47.279 was like we didn't tell our own story. And I 149 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:49.120 love you as it's one of my favorite seasons. 150 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:51.639 Right. It was a tight, very tight season. 151 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:53.879 Yeah, everything was all connected and it was led to 152 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:56.959 another and was already thought out and then you get 153 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:59.560 some like season ten, it's like, okay, we got it 154 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:01.600 into corp. All these pieces that don't really fit together, 155 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:03.800 but here they are like and on their own. I'll 156 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:05.720 say this, I think some of the the highs are 157 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:09.399 higher sometimes in season ten. Yeah, the low's are hustle ower. 158 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:11.720 And it's really like back and forth and uve anoun seasonnine, 159 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:15.040 which is very consistent, you know. Yeah, all that being said, 160 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:18.439 let's get into it. In Shield, we all got a 161 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:19.519 boot with our name on. 162 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:21.879 People about to die. 163 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:23.480 I always think that that's special. 164 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:27.240 Won't be able to go on without them. 165 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:31.959 The truth thing, it's a person. 166 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:33.000 Just find someone else. 167 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:33.279 In The. 168 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:41.960 Shield is the second episode of Smallville's tenth season and 169 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:45.519 aired on October first, twenty ten. Was written by Jordan 170 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:50.399 Holly and directed by Glenn Winter. This is Glenn Winter's 171 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:54.279 last episode that he directed. Yeah, he was a prolific 172 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.919 smavel director. He directed twelve episodes and then went on 173 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:58.559 to do a lot of stuff with the air overs 174 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.440 and I'm just in a cinema photographer throughout the course 175 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:03.240 of the show. But this is his final episode, So 176 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:04.399 I just want to make note of that. We're gonna 177 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:05.720 be seeing a lot of those final things as we 178 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:06.279 go through the season. 179 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:07.919 Here I shout out to Glenn. 180 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:10.039 I want to say with Glenn what I find most 181 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:13.080 fascinating with Glenn is he's one of the few directors 182 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:20.120 that have directed two different versions of Superman. You know, 183 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:23.159 he directed both Tom and then he would go on 184 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:26.399 to direct Tyler and Supergirl, and I think I think 185 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.080 he also did Superman and Lewis an episode, so it's 186 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:30.919 it's just kind of interesting. I think him off the 187 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:32.000 top of my head. 188 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:34.639 I feel like Gregory Smith directs every episode. 189 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:37.360 Of Yeah, I feel like he does a lot. Yeah, yeah, 190 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:39.240 but I know he directed Tyler and Supergirl. 191 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.639 He did know he did the season two two part 192 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:45.480 opener for Supergirl and that's the fantastic introduction of that Superman. 193 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:47.720 So yeah, he's got his wbcw cred. 194 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.159 And then I think David Nutter is another one off 195 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:51.440 the top of my head who was directed as a 196 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:55.919 Superboy and then he directed Tom Welling. I don't I 197 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:58.679 don't know all the directors who did Lois and Clark, 198 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:01.519 so there might be another one that sneaks in there, and. 199 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:03.120 There's a couple little crossovers there. I don't know. Off 200 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:04.440 the top of my head either. But I know there's 201 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:07.200 some some crossover tein Littles and Clark and Smavel every now. 202 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.399 And then, you know, and of course Jene Schwartz. 203 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:14.080 General swork, right, I mean, uh, two Supergirls. So but hey, 204 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:16.519 here in the last stretch of the show, we're during 205 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:18.960 the ratings watch or ask you guys, Hey, what do 206 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:21.039 you think the ratings were for this episode on a 207 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:24.200 Friday night in twenty ten? To give you a little context, 208 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:27.240 the previous week, the season premiere, Lazarth's got two point 209 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:31.559 nine eight million viewers. So John, let's start with you. 210 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:35.039 What do you think Shield got a week later? 211 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:40.279 Two point nine eight? Wow, that's that's pretty solid. What's 212 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:42.759 it called? God? Do you imagine any shows would kill 213 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:46.759 for that? These days? I would say, probably what date? What? 214 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:48.480 What's the date that this premiered? Again? 215 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:50.080 October first? 216 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:55.440 October first? Okay, that's not helpful. I'm just gonna I'm 217 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:59.480 just gonna say that a lot of times. The second episode, 218 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.320 you know, might dip a little bit because everyone gets 219 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:06.879 hot for the premiere. I'm gonna say two point seven. 220 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:09.039 All right, what about you, Tyler? 221 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:12.399 I was thinking, I'm same logic I'm gonna go two 222 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:14.559 five just because he took two seven. 223 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:17.200 So prices right. 224 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:20.679 Actual rating two point three eight? Closer? 225 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:23.360 Who that's true? You workle yet you got it. 226 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:25.879 Part of me, part of me thought just two, but 227 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:27.559 I was like, ah no, I think it would do 228 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:29.960 a little bit better. But you know this is I 229 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:33.759 think about the time frame, you know, these latter seasons. 230 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:35.279 DVR was a big thing. 231 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:36.440 That's true. 232 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.399 And also I'm like, I think about this too when 233 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.200 it comes to ratings. I had the first show i'd 234 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:46.440 ever bought, like digitally iTunes was season eight of Smallville. 235 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:48.960 I just pre bought the whole season and that's how 236 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.559 I watched it because our cable provider kept dropping the CW. 237 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:55.120 So I think about stuff like that too at this time, 238 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:58.679 Like those things don't factor into ratings, you know. Yeah, 239 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.679 And they're pushing that CW app too, because I remember 240 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.200 a couple of episodes in the season ten I ended 241 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:05.279 up watching on the app. 242 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:06.960 Oh yeah I did too. 243 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:09.440 Yeah. Well, my wife and I had moved and we 244 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.799 I remember we had moved into our first apartment and 245 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:14.879 it was actually the Blue Beatle episode. I was sitting 246 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:17.960 in our kitchen and uh, because we had just gotten 247 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:20.039 married and I was watching on my laptop. 248 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:28.360 Sitting in your kitchen, watching exactly American. Oh man, Well, 249 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.679 this episode starts out with previously on Small Villa. We see, 250 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:33.799 you know, some of the events of the finale, some 251 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:35.879 of the events of the premiere. Just I stopped a 252 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:37.919 little bit of Hawkman, a little bit of his backstory, 253 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.399 you know, talking to Green Arrow about Chiara and like 254 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:43.679 how they were destined to fall in love and watch 255 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:45.399 each other die. And then we see a little bit 256 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:50.039 of the prisoner exchange between Oliver and Chloe setting up uh, well, 257 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.639 rick flag and the suicide squad and uh suicide some 258 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.639 kind of suicide squad. We're going to talk about them, 259 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:00.840 and yeah, that kind of puts all the the pieces 260 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:03.159 in place. You know, Lewis is in Africa. You know, 261 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:05.480 I love that they keep her using this clip of 262 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:07.879 Michael McKean. I don't know what the rights are or 263 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:09.639 to that I have to pay him, but like he's like, hey, 264 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:11.200 what do you say, kid, go to Africa. I'm like, 265 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.480 that's dude. You have Michael McKean for one episode and 266 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:15.519 using him on every I mean I would. 267 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:17.519 Too, That's how they keep him on the show. They 268 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:19.600 just keep showing that clip over and O way, it's 269 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:21.480 like Edwood with Bella Lagosi. 270 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:23.879 Like it keeps him in your mind, so you feel like, oh, yeah, 271 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:25.320 he was in there a lot. Like now he's lying 272 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:28.879 two episodes two? No, I know I saw him more 273 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:29.240 than that. 274 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:32.080 You know he listed two episodes and then one episode 275 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:33.120 with a voiceover for the. 276 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:36.960 Just I just do that number out there because I knew, 277 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:38.720 because I could think of two episodes off the top 278 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:39.159 of my head. 279 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.320 That's it. And I mean mary to anetto tool. That's 280 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.360 like they could have got him back more. But anyway, anyway, 281 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:47.840 he's a Look, he's an expensive actor. 282 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:48.440 There's no budget. 283 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:50.559 Season ten. We have four main characters. We'll talk about it. 284 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:52.759 We get to the opening credits, but no, we go 285 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:54.759 we transition from that what do you say kid Africa? 286 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:57.159 Right then we cut to the opening of the episode 287 00:13:57.159 --> 00:13:59.679 proper and it's it's uh, the Sahara desert and like 288 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.639 some cgi village off in the tent of tents offt 289 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:06.200 in the background ice home. Oh yeah, Lowis gets off 290 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:09.279 her bus and and they this is in the opening credits, right, 291 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:11.399 the shot of Lois pulling her her scarf off. 292 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.320 They use that shot a lot. I just that shot 293 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:17.320 is just burned into my head. So yeah, they use 294 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:17.759 it a lot. 295 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:21.440 I feel like it's in like all the DVD promos. 296 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:24.960 Just yeah, everything, very very good school shots. 297 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:27.600 Shot. Yeah, it's a ethic shot. Erica looks great, when 298 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:28.039 does she not? 299 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.440 Yeah? And to y'all's point about keeping Perry around, She's like, 300 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:33.840 Perry this is lately, And I'm like, okay, yeah, she's 301 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:36.840 she's quote unquote talking to Perry light on the phone. Guys, 302 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:39.559 he's still around. But hey, I didn't remember. I mean, 303 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:42.320 obviously it makes sense now. But thinking back, like she's 304 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:46.039 here to investigate the uncovering of the tomb of Isis. 305 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:51.120 Can we say that? Am I gonna? I love for 306 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:53.759 lying here about my dream job is turning to one 307 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:56.519 thousand and one Arabian nightmares, which is that's a good line. 308 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:58.600 I thought, Yeah, her puns really work. 309 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:00.840 But yeah, they're setting up the ice Nicholas here, right. 310 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:03.679 Hey whoever said seas intend didn't have a plan? 311 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:05.960 Huh exactly? 312 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:08.039 They were like, oh, yeah, we got this one because 313 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:12.159 she and what's interesting how she references raw, you know, 314 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:13.240 the sun god. 315 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:16.799 Daniel Jackson Clark. 316 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:21.480 Oh, I I love Michael Shanks's Carter Hall. I think 317 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:24.480 he's a great Carter Hall. His Hawkman. It's a little 318 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:27.480 like I didn't need the voice you tried to do. 319 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:28.879 You know. 320 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:31.759 My biggest thing was like you look at Hawkman in 321 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.440 the comics, like he's this like super muscular, big dude, 322 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:38.759 you know, and you look at Michael Shanks You're like, 323 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:41.159 all right, You're okay. 324 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:45.080 He probably still is the best Hawkman, like live action Hawkman, 325 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:47.519 because it's certainly not the one from their over I love. 326 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:49.240 I love the one in Black Adam though. 327 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:54.039 I do too, but they just as with that movie's 328 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.600 biggest problem is it's so surface level. There's nothing about 329 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:59.559 reincarnation or whatever. Like I had assume Aldre's Hodge. I 330 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:01.279 was like, oh, he'll be my favorite hawk Man. I'm like, oh, 331 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:04.120 he kind of ended up not being fault of his own. 332 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:06.799 Yeah. I used to live in my building. Actually, Alvis Hodge, 333 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:08.600 he actually used to live in my building. His mail 334 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.000 still comes here. I'm not going through his mail, his magazines. 335 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:12.399 His magazines keep. 336 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:14.120 I still go through his mail. 337 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.519 That's how I know. Yeah, and I completely forgot that 338 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:19.960 he played Hawkman for a second. 339 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:21.799 I like, he's a great actor. I mean I saw 340 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:23.679 him first on Friday Night Lights back in the day. 341 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:27.360 Yeah, I think it was Supernatural season two. Okay, he's 342 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:31.080 the one that kills He's the one that kills uh 343 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:33.559 Sam Winchester in season two. He's the one that stabs 344 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:34.159 him in the back. 345 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:36.759 Oh my god, you're right. I forgot about it, which. 346 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:39.159 Causes Dean to sell his soul and sets up seats. 347 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:41.840 The first of ten times. Yeah, yeah, he does that 348 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:42.200 a lot. 349 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:45.639 I forgot. You know, this episode, it's a it's a 350 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:51.799 backdoor pilot for saving Hope, right with the with the 351 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.360 Erica Durance and Daniel Jackson, who's now now as you 352 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:58.960 mentioned a stargate, I forgot that. What's what's his name? 353 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:04.319 Michael Shanks, Michaels Shakes. They yeah, because they went on 354 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.680 after I guess they somebody's they probably they both submitted 355 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:09.440 this to the un their demodel somewhere and they're like, 356 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:11.160 you know what, those two have chemistry. And there's this 357 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:13.960 entire hospital show. The film in Canada for like ran 358 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:15.480 for like five seasons, and the two of them were 359 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:16.680 the main stars of it. 360 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:19.039 So I never even knew this thing existed. 361 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:33.039 Always hold on to staving. So we're getting married. I 362 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:34.200 got a hustle, baby. 363 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:36.839 He didn't invite me the wedding, so presumably you're still 364 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:39.079 in love with me, right, Oh. 365 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:46.920 Honeymoon doddors Oh we got a week off next month, soul, 366 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:47.799 don't distract me. 367 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:48.799 This is hard work. 368 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:55.599 He was probably an apt starting IVY schools. 369 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:57.440 He's a chief of surgery. He's not gonna wait. 370 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:04.799 He's been unconscious for thirty seven minutes. Wait a second. 371 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:07.119 This is how it happens. 372 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:14.200 You leave it all behind, everything, everything you love, everything 373 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:19.079 you know, and all you can do is hope. 374 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:23.160 We just go await it up. You want me to 375 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:25.000 tell you whether I want to resuscitate him if her 376 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:25.440 codes again? 377 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:26.759 Yes, I can't do that. 378 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:27.440 You have to. 379 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:30.480 You can see me? 380 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:32.279 Can you see me? Yeah? 381 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:34.440 No, wallet, No nothing, guys a John. 382 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:36.880 Doe, you died loget everything we could. 383 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:37.839 I'm sorry about that. 384 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:41.440 Gray. Do you know what that is? 385 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.440 A baby's head? I want this freaking thing off now. 386 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:46.680 Man, he has PTSD. 387 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:50.000 Have you thought about talking to a psychiatrist? Call it 388 00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:53.000 travel tam, give me the I'm showing. 389 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:53.319 No kidd it. 390 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.119 Charlie is twice the surgeon you will ever be. 391 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:10.319 Don't you give up on me. 392 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:14.039 I'm still here. 393 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:28.279 I totally agree that he is like Carter Hall a plus. 394 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:30.240 Like I see this guy coming in because Lewis is 395 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:31.400 in there looking around the ten and you see the 396 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:34.240 subtle lot of this Indiana Jones looking guy like he's 397 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.279 and I'm like, man like he he looks so much 398 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.200 cooler here than he didn't, Absolutely justice Frankly Jones. 399 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:43.759 He's in his environment, you know, he's in he's he's 400 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:46.920 going back to like his hair. I always thought with Hawkman, 401 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:48.799 it would been really cool to get different like when 402 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.079 you do like flashbacks, you get different actors to play 403 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.160 Hawkman at different times. But is he supposed to be reincarnation? 404 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:58.839 Yeah, that doesn't exactly mean you're going to look the same. 405 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:01.880 Right, And that was all was my thought, Like was. 406 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:03.960 I never that never occurred to me? But that actually 407 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:04.720 makes a lot of sense. 408 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:07.640 Yeah, Like because I thought about that a lot during 409 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:10.599 Legends of Tomorrow when they tried to do like the 410 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:12.319 Hawks and they told their story in the past, and 411 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:14.880 I was like, you know, this actor doesn't really look 412 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:16.079 like he'd be an Egyptian. 413 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:20.680 Prince to me, Yeah, he really doesn't look like a 414 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:22.680 Kufu shout out. Shout out to the guys from always 415 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:24.039 on the Arrow. They always have a good laugh and 416 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:26.240 they talk about Prince Kufu about looking about as white 417 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:26.759 as I am. 418 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:30.480 So like, I always just thought, you know, it'd be 419 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:32.839 great for like each because they always talk about he 420 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:35.839 recognizes her, you know, he doesn't know it's her, Like 421 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:38.079 it's about the soul bond, you know. So I was like, 422 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.519 they always get reading Carnea as different people, like it's 423 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:43.079 the soul that comes back. So I just thought it 424 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:45.279 would be cool to get different actors to be hawk Man. 425 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:47.839 So we get this whole set up here where you know, 426 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:52.640 Lois looks at some hieroglyphic of them right of Shiara 427 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:59.119 and Carter. What's his uh, what's his name? What's talk man? Yeah? 428 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:02.279 But what's what's the what's the Shiara version of his name? 429 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:03.880 Oh? I oh? 430 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:06.440 Is it like isn't car Yeah? 431 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:10.160 Like it's like cartour, yeah, something like that. 432 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:11.640 He and Gwynn. 433 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:15.920 I really like how the Justice League animated series. Well, 434 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:18.079 I like how that did everything, but I kind of 435 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:20.119 really liked how they did the whole hawk Band story 436 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:22.759 and they did the Thanagarian thing. With Aliens and like, well, 437 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:24.799 here's an Egyptian guy, and like they kind of put 438 00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:26.799 all that community out there for you. But Carter Halls, 439 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:28.839 he's almost looking at this. He's like there were lovers 440 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:30.720 and Starcross lovers. And I was like, oh my god, 441 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:32.839 it's Carter Hall, and we know who he is. She 442 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:34.599 doesn't know who he is. She's never met Carl Hall. 443 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:37.519 And you think, oh, what a great reveal. We're gonna 444 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:39.839 cut to that. Somebody's safe. No, we keep going, we 445 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:42.480 keep going. In the opening credits here, it's interesting, really 446 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:45.799 stretched us out right. So, uh, Clark is trying to 447 00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:48.759 trying to call Chloe as usual because he needs help, 448 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:51.920 and uh, some random guy gives him a newspaper and 449 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:54.359 it's like, hey, Lowis Lane page three and it's like 450 00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:58.200 Lois Lane joins Perry White at the It's like, how 451 00:21:58.279 --> 00:21:59.880 was what kind of weird self promotion is. 452 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:02.480 That she's that's in my notes right here. I said, 453 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:05.039 what the paper really take up that much space in 454 00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:09.000 their paper self promoting their reporter getting a promotion? 455 00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:12.240 Yeah, especially because Lois always seems to be getting into trouble, 456 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:15.000 so it's like it seems like she's there's always some 457 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:16.799 sort of an issue, and then they're making a big 458 00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:19.680 deal out of her, you know, getting this big byline 459 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:20.400 with Perry White. 460 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.960 And they still work in the basement, right, Yeah they do, 461 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:24.640 because I mean. 462 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:27.200 That's the set that they will never Yeah, they could 463 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:30.119 have just redressed it. They just I just think because 464 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:32.480 they had the steps there, they just decided they're just 465 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:33.920 always going to be in the basement. 466 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:38.519 They built this set in two thousand and five. Okay, 467 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:42.400 So there they are milking and it's a beautiful setutiful, 468 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:45.079 but it is like, aren't you guys like this is 469 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:47.200 the basement like Interim Coloye's supposed to work at and 470 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:49.599 you guys are like real people. But anyway, Clark, you know, 471 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:51.440 sits down at his desk and he's like, well, I 472 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:55.480 gotta I gotta go to Africa and get her right. 473 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:58.799 So he prints out a take it to Cairo and 474 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:00.960 round Tribune movie. Fine, I'll take a screenshot this, look 475 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:02.359 at the prices what they were all the years ago 476 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:03.200 for airplane and take. 477 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:04.359 A ten I thought about that. 478 00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:06.640 So he's like this is this is like setting up 479 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:08.480 like he's gonna go get her right, and then he 480 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:11.359 see he gets up and he sees his purse, Alis's sys. 481 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:18.200 He's like Lois and then Cat Grant appears and she's like, no, 482 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:21.240 everybody Cat Grant with a C not to take the 483 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:24.559 confused of that woman on TV from season nine because 484 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:27.000 there must be two, because there's two Cat Grants. Now, 485 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:29.640 I'm glad they at least addressed it right like we would. 486 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:31.079 The whole time would have been like wait a minute, 487 00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:33.240 just like the Supergirl in season seven. The whole time 488 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:34.880 we would have been like wait a minute. But the 489 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:36.400 show addresses it. The address it. 490 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:37.200 There's two. 491 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:40.599 So here's the thing. U. Cat Grant carry Lynn Pratt, 492 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:43.119 who I have come to know from Jack and Bobby. 493 00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:45.480 I don't know if anyone revers that show, but she 494 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:49.599 was on that show. I've recently I have been tracking 495 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:53.440 it down because it's as unavailable everywhere. But it's really 496 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:55.559 cool concept for a show. Go check it out. But anyway, 497 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:56.680 she was on that show, and I guess that was 498 00:23:56.680 --> 00:23:58.559 her claim to fame on the WB before this, and 499 00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:00.000 maybe that's how she got in the orbit of all 500 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:07.119 these castling directors. So she's super annoying she's supposed to be, 501 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:09.720 but that doesn't make it better. So John what do 502 00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:10.680 you think about this character? 503 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:16.480 Yeah, in my notes, I forgot she was in this episode. 504 00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:20.599 So when the camera panda tilted up and she introduces herself, 505 00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:25.319 all I wrote was katgrant dot dot dot dear God. Yeah, no, 506 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:26.000 I agree. 507 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:26.240 Then. 508 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:27.880 You know, if a character is supposed to be a 509 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:30.440 little grading or annoying, it's okay if they get under 510 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:32.920 your skin a few times, but if they're kind of 511 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:36.200 grading on you the whole episode, it makes it it 512 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:39.119 it takes you out of it a little bit. I 513 00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:41.440 will say, I definitely prefer the latter half of the 514 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:45.480 episode when you see obviously the twist and turn of 515 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:49.519 her character. Yes, and in terms of having to okay, 516 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:51.960 so the super Girl, I'll give them, I'm gonna give 517 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:54.680 them a break on that, you know, because as we've 518 00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:57.920 as we've you know, said that season five clearly was 519 00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:01.400 originally meant to be the end. So having her show up, 520 00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:03.640 you know, they're like, well, we're never going to see Supergirls, 521 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:06.200 so you know, bringing her up in the in the 522 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:09.039 you know, now the first half of the series wouldn't matter. 523 00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:11.160 And then of course they got far enough they're like, 524 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:13.880 well we'll just bring her into it. But with Kat Grant. 525 00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:17.039 This was just last season, so you know what I mean, 526 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:18.960 it's not like one of those like, oh, you know 527 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.119 we're wrapping you know, we're wrapping up, we might as 528 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:23.000 well or we didn't go. We were gonna go. They 529 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:24.720 didn't think we were going to go this long, So 530 00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:27.359 we're going to have a new one in there. It's 531 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:30.160 it's it's a bit on the weird side, but we've 532 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:33.759 we've accepted weirder things on this show. But yeah, so 533 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:35.720 I definitely prefer her more in the latter half of 534 00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:38.920 the episode than she does commit. The actress very much 535 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:41.759 commits to it, so I and and she has good timing, 536 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:43.440 so I'm you know, I don't want to I don't 537 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:46.640 want to just bash the actress. It's it's just the writing. Ultimately. 538 00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:49.240 Yeah, she comes on just so strong in this first scenes. 539 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:51.559 It takes a while for that for bad first impression 540 00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:53.119 to wear off, because she does get better over the 541 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:54.519 course of the episode and the season. 542 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:54.759 Yeah. 543 00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:57.240 Ooof man, it's it's a rough first impression. What do 544 00:25:57.240 --> 00:25:58.200 you think of her? Tyler? 545 00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:03.720 Well, you know, my first question is where does this 546 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.680 version of cat Grant come from? You know, because I've 547 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:10.039 been rereading a lot of the comics and early two thousands. 548 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:14.079 This feels very much and I could be wrong a 549 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:16.920 version for the show itself of how Cat Grant is, 550 00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:21.279 but yeah, it was. It was weird because like she said, 551 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:23.880 like you pointed out, like that was just last season 552 00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:27.960 and even even in this episode jumping ahead, like she's 553 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:31.079 not really Cat Grant, like she changed her name to 554 00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:31.960 Cat Grant. 555 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:34.240 Yeah, that was strange. I don't I don't think it's 556 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:35.720 ever been the case for the character, but maybe I 557 00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:37.200 don't know exactly. 558 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:39.119 I mean, not that I've run into. So it's it's 559 00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:43.359 it's really weird. And yeah, she is annoying, and I 560 00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:45.160 feel like it does a little bit tried towards the 561 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:46.680 latter half of the season to make you kind of 562 00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:49.240 like her or not seasoned episode like her when she 563 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.079 kind of lets her guard down and you see things. 564 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.680 But yeah, it was it was just weird. It's a 565 00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:59.160 very weird version of this character. I don't need like 566 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.759 the Lois and Clark cat Grant, you know, Yeah, but 567 00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:03.440 this Cat Grant feels like they're like, we have to 568 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:05.319 do the exact opposite of what we did over here. 569 00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:08.640 Yeah, hey, I'll tell you what. By far, favorite, Cat 570 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:09.759 Grant pull us to flock cart. 571 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.680 Oh yeah, I totally forgot that. That's I totally forgot 572 00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:15.799 that she played Cat Grant, huge. 573 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:17.759 Part of season one and big reason why season one's 574 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:18.880 my favorite season super Bowl. 575 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:21.720 Oh yeah. From the few clips I saw of the show, 576 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:25.559 she stole what what you know, whatever moments that she 577 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.200 was in. I didn't. I didn't watch any of season one. 578 00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:30.759 I pretty much only started watching when John Criers Lex 579 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:32.839 Sluthor came on to the show and I'm like, well, 580 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:34.799 I guess I'll be watching that I watched. 581 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:36.519 I was not watching super only more by that point, 582 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:38.519 but I tuned in for every John Carr episode. Absolutely 583 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.559 I understand. So turns out Cat Grant is also very 584 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:46.279 anti vigilante. She pulls out our radio turns on you 585 00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:51.000 know talk radio Godfreed. Hey, yep, sne slip in Think 586 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:52.160 Things Through. 587 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:53.680 That was a nice slip. And then she's like, I'll 588 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:54.519 give you the podcast. 589 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.079 Yeah, because so Clark's listening to this guy talk all 590 00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:01.359 this this the you know, just the slander these vigilantes, 591 00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:05.200 right heroes really and then he like slams his hand 592 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.680 on the radio turn off. He's like, hr is a 593 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.079 strict the radio policy at work, Like that's good. 594 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:11.680 I like that. 595 00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:14.359 And you know, we've all been around people who like, 596 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:16.000 I don't know, I don't care what it is, but 597 00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:18.599 it's something's turned on in a place of business and 598 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:20.119 annoys you, and you're like, you all want to do that. 599 00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:23.000 So we are all Clark at that moment. And uh 600 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:24.880 and then she starts talking not only that, so it's 601 00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:27.400 like this escalation of like she's talking mess about that. 602 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:29.920 Then she starts talking mess about Lois Lane. It's like, oh, 603 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.200 Clark's like, hey, this desk is not for you, so 604 00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:33.839 oh yes it is. I'm a new partner. And she 605 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:38.799 throws Lois's name tag away. And then in response to this, 606 00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.119 Clark the cookie that he had graciously taken him a 607 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:42.920 cat rant, be careful their extra goody had just pain 608 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:46.319 in this morning. Uh, he throws that in the trash, 609 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:50.480 takes Lois's name tag out. That last shot. That's how 610 00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:51.880 we go to somebody saying. She's like, I don't think 611 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:53.880 you get it. I'm a new partner, And just that 612 00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.160 whole like exasperated expression on Tom Wrlingk's face is really good, 613 00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:01.160 Like he excels at comedy. Yeah, he excels at being 614 00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:03.880 a villain. He excels a comedy, and he excels at 615 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.200 all his interplay with Ericar Durantz. Those when he shines 616 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.480 on their show, so great little. 617 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:13.039 Moment comedic whise he is he definitely uh, he definitely 618 00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:17.759 excels in looking frustrated, annoyed, or completely taken off guard 619 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:22.240 that the surprise. The surprise Tom Welling face could basically 620 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.799 be a meme of you know too itself. 621 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:26.880 Is how I got We all have a personal that 622 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.759 at work. You just you're like they just keep going 623 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.200 like they have no filter, like try to get to 624 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:34.920 know you and like what you're like or what you 625 00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:37.480 know upsets you. They're just like, oh, Godfrey's so right, 626 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:39.279 you know what I'm talking about all this? And Lois 627 00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:42.680 Lane did all this and He's like, you just started here, 628 00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:44.440 like you're already just want to talk trash about people? 629 00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:46.759 Is he is Jim Hoppard in search of a camera 630 00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:48.200 in those moments? 631 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:49.279 Definite. 632 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:51.079 I do I give the show credit for, like, because 633 00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:52.480 I was talking about he let's bild out the data 634 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:54.240 planet staff. We need more than just three people we 635 00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:55.839 talked to, right, So I give him credit for bringing 636 00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:57.160 in this character, so I don't be too hard on 637 00:29:57.200 --> 00:29:58.880 how annoying she is, and she does get better, but 638 00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.440 I'm like, whoof man, she is tough tills follow when 639 00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:03.920 she first shows up. We got the opening credits, we 640 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:05.400 come back, we see a lot of great scenes from 641 00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.240 from season ten. We do indeed see that Lois in 642 00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:10.240 the desert shot, and we see a bunch of We 643 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.359 see Lois and Glasses, we see Clark and glasses so 644 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:13.400 much false advertising. 645 00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:14.839 I love the glasses. 646 00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:18.359 By the way, this is the first opening credits with 647 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:23.559 just the four of Tom America, Justin and uh Cassidy, 648 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.200 and it's like, wow's four people, right. 649 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.039 They really spread the names over the over the. 650 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:32.799 It's interesting that they put that Alison Mack only an 651 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.240 episode she was in, but I guess she had that 652 00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:37.960 shorter contract this season, and because because another other characters, 653 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.440 like you know, or another actors, like when Erica Drantz 654 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:42.359 first started or John Glover, like they had these like 655 00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.920 thirteen episode contracts. That's still like enough, but like if 656 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.759 Alison Macs she was like what like in five or six, 657 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.200 five or six episodes, you can't have her in twenty two. 658 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.119 Every sea, Yeah, because then you have her fans who don't, 659 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.480 because I mean for us who are in this space 660 00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.440 and we like learned, like I heard from interview, is 661 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.079 how many episodes John Glover was doing, how many episodes 662 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:06.079 Alison Mack was doing. That's for us, for people who 663 00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.799 watch the show and you know, maybe you know and 664 00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:12.440 maybe you know, like Chloe's character, If they keep coming 665 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.920 back every week and seeing and Alison Mack in the 666 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:17.599 credits and she once again isn't on it for you know, 667 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.240 and that happens like seventeen times, that's you know, that's 668 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.000 that's kind of a blow for them. So I definitely 669 00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:28.359 get why they opted to remove her for the episode 670 00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:28.920 she's not in. 671 00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:31.240 Do you wish she would have been in all these though? Like, 672 00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:32.920 do you wish she would have been in the full 673 00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.039 twenty or not? Just I'm not to the credits, I 674 00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:37.599 mean just as the character. 675 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:42.759 Honestly, I'm glad to take a break from her. Quite frankly, 676 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:47.519 I was agreeing with every every single annoying Chloe moment 677 00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:50.559 that drove you insane for the last for the past 678 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:53.759 two seasons. Zach I was on board. I was on 679 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:57.599 board every single time she I feel like they kind 680 00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:01.599 of assassinated her character and then rebuilt the character too 681 00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:04.680 many times. At this point, they kind of it was 682 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.200 good to still have her for the history and to 683 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.799 have both to have at least two cast members that 684 00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:13.960 made it through the entire series, so just for the 685 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.559 history of it. It was cool to kind of technically 686 00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:20.079 have her a part of the main cast, but not really. 687 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.319 I don't think they really knew what to do with 688 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.440 her anyway. And then the episode where they bring her 689 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:26.599 back this we're not going to. 690 00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.960 Talk No, no, I don't off the look and see 691 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:31.960 who was on the schedule for that one. Apologies in advance. 692 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.200 That's the Matrix episode. That's pretty rough, But Tyler, you 693 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:37.079 feel the same anything Chloe's gonna play out by now. 694 00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:39.799 It is one of those where you get a character 695 00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:42.440 that people like and then you just keep them around. 696 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.559 You're trying to find something for them to do, but 697 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.440 you don't have anything for them because they serve their purpose. Yeah, 698 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.599 and I think by pulling her back when she did 699 00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.799 show up, it made us more excited to see the character. 700 00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.039 Yeah, and you were. 701 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:55.720 Talking about like her and the credits kind of reminds 702 00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:57.680 me of a back in the day when you'd watch 703 00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.480 Batman sixty six and all of a sudden, you get 704 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.519 the batgirl. Yeah, and you're like, oh, back's gonna be 705 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.119 in this episode. It's kind of like that, that's. 706 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:06.559 A good that's a good call back, that's good. 707 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.640 But but yeah, I just I feel like it's interesting 708 00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:11.920 because I think about we're approaching the final season of 709 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:14.079 Superman and Lowest and we know they had budget cuts 710 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.599 and they were they pulled back who are the main 711 00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.720 cast you know of that show, to where like you said, 712 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:21.400 on this show you only have four main cast members 713 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:23.880 and nowhere else is like guest starring. Yeah, so it's 714 00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:25.839 a it's a it's a season of guest stars. 715 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:28.960 Yeah. More, I mean because you get John Shrier, you 716 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.160 get John Glover getting into a tool all back from 717 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:35.400 multiple episodes, right, So it pays off. But in Chloe's absence, 718 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.640 Tests is now gonna be Chloe, right, because Oliver's at 719 00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.519 the Watchtower and Test shows up. He's like, hey you 720 00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:43.640 he gave me a call, and Ili was just like, 721 00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:45.680 I can't find Chloe's gone. I can't find anywhere. And 722 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:48.000 then this is when I think the reverencing back to 723 00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:53.319 the Legion episode right where he's like Chloe's been totally raced, 724 00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:55.160 just like there's no there's no evidence of forever. And 725 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.480 I'm like, is was this them trying to because the 726 00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.359 whole thing with with you know, Chloe was its place 727 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.559 in the future, right And they have the Legion put 728 00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:03.400 that line and it's. 729 00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:05.559 Like, oh wow, I didn't think about that. 730 00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.039 Look at them paying attention. But the Legions like we 731 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.000 have no record of Chloe solve and like what does 732 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:11.280 it mean? And like. 733 00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.199 Slay the ultimate tool for the record? 734 00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:23.039 Yeah, only My favorite line was only Chloe could erase 735 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:25.559 Chloe so dramatic. 736 00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:29.199 If she had sunglasses, he should have taken them off 737 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.320 as she was was who said that? 738 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:32.559 Was that? 739 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:34.400 Was that tests? Or is that? 740 00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:38.039 Yeah? Should do the day with Caruso. She's the redhead. 741 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.480 She's got it already, absolutely, But I know that there's 742 00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:42.719 no digital record of Chloe Slovan anywhere, and I think 743 00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:44.360 this is I think this is what they were trying 744 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:48.800 to tie those loosens together. But anyway, then then we 745 00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:53.199 it's like she never existed. But then this is them 746 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.079 kind of positioning test to take over for Chloe, which 747 00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.320 which makes me think they had some inclination about this 748 00:34:58.360 --> 00:34:59.679 at the end of season nine when they had that 749 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.199 episod over, there were like bonding together and the which 750 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:03.920 they didn't end up bonding as much as I remember 751 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:09.400 them doing when I actually episodeless, but there was that like, hey, 752 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.880 we're more alike than we think, and you'd be the 753 00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:14.000 perfect person to take over for me because you're just 754 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:15.800 as broken as I have kind of thing right, and 755 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:17.280 I guess, like I don't know, that kind of does 756 00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:19.280 work out because Test is now kind of on the 757 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.599 Good Guys team quote unquote, and we need something for 758 00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.559 her to do other than be like pseudo lex is 759 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:25.239 she good as she bad? We're kind of moved past that. 760 00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:27.519 So she does slide in here very nicely. But then 761 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.679 Oliver gives her this this this like goodbye letter that 762 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.800 Chloe wrote Oliver and he thinks Tess wrote it to 763 00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.000 like because she's responsible for Chloe being gone, And you know, 764 00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:38.760 it's an interesting moment because Test reason it gets pretty emotional, right, 765 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:40.920 She's like, Oliver, I didn't write this. Chloe did. And 766 00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:44.559 it just makes me again, reminds me that, like rewatching 767 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.480 the show, I'm like, yeah, I'm way more of an 768 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.000 Oliver Test shipper than an Oliver Chloe Chloe ship. 769 00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.440 Yeah, I agree with that. There was something, Yeah, there's 770 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:55.119 something more tragic about it when when you have a 771 00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:58.320 superhero who's a lot i mean left for all intensive purposes. 772 00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.039 Test was brought onto the show to be an antagonist, 773 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:03.840 to be a shady antagonist that you can kind of 774 00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:07.000 use for multiple purposes, whether she was the full on villain, 775 00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.840 whether she was a supporting, you know, anti hero, something 776 00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:12.840 like that. There's something so interesting when a when a 777 00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.880 heroic character falls for a character like that, because there's 778 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.000 always this feeling of the hero is attracted to their 779 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.239 dark side in them, and then you know, then the 780 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.840 other half is attracted to whatever light that you know 781 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.119 comes from them. In a sense, you know, they kind 782 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:29.960 of make a perfect pairing. But at the same time 783 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.000 it's also very complex. But with Chloe and Oliver, it 784 00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.679 felt like, well, I mean, we need to give Chloe 785 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.760 a honky guy because we've been we've been we've been 786 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.480 keeping her away from from Clark and we've been killing 787 00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.719 her boyfriends, and so let's get the great at the end. 788 00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:49.519 I have always went that way. I was like, well, 789 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:51.559 I mean, Chloe did it of a superman, but she 790 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.679 ended up with basically Batman in this universe. So that's great. 791 00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:56.360 I'm glad because I just I wanted her to get 792 00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:59.320 a happy ending. Yeah, I was so sick she going 793 00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.559 to go crazy? Is she gonna die? Right? And then 794 00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:03.400 I'm watching the show because I was like in love 795 00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:05.199 with Chloe when I was a teenager watching this show, 796 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.079 right of course, you know, I wanted her to have 797 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.119 happy any with any get and then rewatching it. I mean, 798 00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:13.760 Johnny Mitchell, like, I was getting so frustrated the character. 799 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:18.320 So now I'm too, Frankly, I'm like, yeah, let's get 800 00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.639 some let's get some new uh just those guilt ship 801 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:22.440 and she to Clark and all this stuff, and I'm like, 802 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:23.440 I'm just I'm kind of over. 803 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:27.119 Somebody out of completely out of line. So many now, 804 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.840 let's the show is littered with people who are hypocritical. 805 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.000 Let's be honest. There's a whole lot of why didn't 806 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:34.559 you tell me? Why didn't you tell me? Why didn't 807 00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.280 you tell me? Chris crossing from all of them. But 808 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.840 the tide was she basically like I can't remember what 809 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:43.199 episode it was where she blatantly blames everything that happened 810 00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.079 to Jimmy on Clark and I'm just like, I don't 811 00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:49.800 understand what logic you're standing on here. Like literally every 812 00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.960 time Clark tried to do something, especially sending Davis into 813 00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.400 the phantom zone to avoid, you know, murdering him, and 814 00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.159 she was like, no, we can't do that. They they 815 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:05.599 really really pig ponged her character, her motivation, and I 816 00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.480 wonder even, well, we're not going to find out now, 817 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.639 but I wonder what Alison Mack actually thought about the 818 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.920 writing for her character during during those during those periods, 819 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:15.159 because it definitely. 820 00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.119 I can't wait when she's on Talk Fill and they 821 00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:18.239 can talk all about it. 822 00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:21.559 John Absolutely, yeah, yeah, so it should be very interesting 823 00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.679 from behind bars, that should be that would be very interesting. 824 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:25.719 But I guess you. 825 00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.480 Brought up Tests writing the letter. You know, Test is 826 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.760 like the tragic character who never quite gets embraced as 827 00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:36.679 one of them, Like she's brought in, she's fully accepted, 828 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:41.000 and she's one that like in the end, like when 829 00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.079 she dies spoiler alert. 830 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.360 We don't spoil the series finale on the show, Tiler, 831 00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:48.159 what is wrong with. 832 00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.719 I've been listening to the show for years. Nobody cares 833 00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.119 or it's like worst Tests or what happened to tests, like, yeah, 834 00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:58.880 it's like an open thread that just you know, she 835 00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:03.119 dies protecting them all and there's never anything that's like 836 00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:04.440 for tests. 837 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:06.320 Well that that is super tragic. And that's why I 838 00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.280 think she resonates so much as a character ultimately, because 839 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:12.440 she she is never really all these She loves Oliver 840 00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:18.519 and you know Oliver's moved on from her, and yeah, 841 00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:20.760 she's kind of got a thing for Clark Luthor, right, 842 00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:23.239 but he's evil and tries to kill her, and it's 843 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.039 just like it's rough for her. Right, she loved Lex, 844 00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:26.199 I think before she knew he. 845 00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:30.000 Was her brothers. Cassidy's a great actress, and I think 846 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:33.320 that's the reason why, like they kept writing interesting stuff 847 00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:36.679 for her, even if some of it was contradictory, you know, 848 00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:39.639 making her a looser. My opinion is that I say, 849 00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:43.199 in every writer's room there's a gigantic whiteboard and there's 850 00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:47.000 a whole lot of back door, trapdoor yeah things that 851 00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:49.800 they could use elements to keep characters on the show. 852 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.920 And it's kind of creepy that they were like, well, 853 00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:55.199 you know, we're not quite sure if Tess is you know, 854 00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:59.480 Lex's sister or you know, mess around Buddy just yet. 855 00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.519 So let so we'll play it one way and then 856 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.760 if the story goes in another direction, we'll just say, 857 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:08.159 you know, Lionel select with another person, which, lets be honest, 858 00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:11.840 that track, Yeah he cleaned up, Yeah, Lionel definitely. Yeah, yeah, 859 00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:13.719 he's got more than a few kids out there. 860 00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:19.039 Definitely. In season eight, Hitch, I loved you. I'm like, yeah, 861 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.039 that was a that was a loved things definitely. But 862 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:24.280 here's the thing, right, Oh, also, all this odd stuff 863 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.119 in season nine weird, but I kind of liked it, 864 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:27.199 like it was really weird. 865 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.559 That Yeah, that was pretty cool. It was a power thing. Yeah, 866 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:33.440 it was a sexual power thing between the two of them. 867 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.679 You know, they both felt strong that neither of them 868 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.840 felt particularly weak. Each one was a very specific chess 869 00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:42.880 move every time the two of them did something evil 870 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:43.960 or dirty. 871 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.679 But I think them figuring out finally that oh she's 872 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:53.360 Lena Luther, basically Lea Luther. Oh like perfect, because okay, 873 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.960 secret siblings it's a thing, right, Usually it infuriates me 874 00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:58.519 when it's like, oh, yeah, this character had this other 875 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:01.679 sibling we never heard about for ever. Lean Luther exists 876 00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:03.480 in the comics, right, So it's not like you just 877 00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.400 made this up one and two. To your point, John 878 00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:10.440 Lionel got around so he it totally like to me, 879 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:13.039 that didn't feel like a ridiculous rick On felt like, 880 00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:15.480 oh now I finally understand why this care, how she 881 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:17.840 fits in everything. I think it actually enhanced the character. 882 00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:20.960 It also explains why this character we hadn't really heard 883 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.079 of had a prominent role in Luther Court. 884 00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:25.440 Yeah, why do you think I recruited? 885 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:25.480 You? 886 00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:29.280 Treated like my own flesh and blood? Like you know. 887 00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.639 It kind of makes you feel like okay, like okay, 888 00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:35.199 that makes sense because you know Lionel always kept tabs 889 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:35.719 on things. 890 00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.559 Yeah, he wanted to make sure no one was coming 891 00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:42.559 Freddie for his money, you. 892 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:47.480 Know, like his big son Lucas who giant role. 893 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:51.480 Bottle of small history. 894 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.119 Where the world is Lucas Luce. There, there's your sped 895 00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:55.079 off that they never did. 896 00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:57.239 All they had to do was write. I'm sure they 897 00:41:57.320 --> 00:41:59.079 thought they wrote him off with like a lion somewhere, 898 00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.400 and they just forgot like, no, you never said he died. 899 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:03.199 He's just all you had to do is have Lex 900 00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:05.840 sitting there and someone comes walking in. He's like it's done. 901 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.320 We put him in the ground and then he closes 902 00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:10.039 the laptop, like good. 903 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:12.440 We spend more time with the clone Julian Luthor. 904 00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:13.760 Yeah. 905 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:19.639 Yeah, like Vampire Diaries, it's on the network. Just have 906 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:21.480 him come over for like a day and just wrap 907 00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:22.800 that character up if. 908 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.480 You wanted to. How easy? In season ten, the opening 909 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:27.880 is Lucas walking into something and then there's one of 910 00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.519 the Lex clones. They're just like pop and sat down. 911 00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:34.159 So far past that eight years later, right, But anyway, 912 00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.320 so that sets up kind of we're sirely sending what 913 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:38.360 Tessa's role is gonna be this season. H We'll go 914 00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:45.599 back to Cairo and Lois is looking at the IIS necklace, right, 915 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:47.039 She's like, well, I thought those Sex and the City 916 00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:48.800 girls had got his taste. Was this before or after 917 00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:50.119 the Sex and the City movie where they go to 918 00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:50.880 the desert? I don't know. 919 00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.400 After that, right, I'm pretty sure it's after the first 920 00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.480 one came out, when The Dark Knight came out the 921 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:07.679 same weekend. That is crilliant, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, the originally 922 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:12.039 it was one of the original Barberheimer's kid. 923 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.920 So Lois refers to Curter Hall here as you some 924 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:17.679 kind of Inana Jones. You come to make sure that 925 00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:22.079 these are authentic artifacts and yeah. So it's like, okay, 926 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:23.880 fair enough, you can tell. He's like, oh my gosh. 927 00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:27.159 So he texts Clark and he's like, Lois Lane is safe. 928 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.519 You owe me big time. So I like how, I 929 00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:31.880 like how this doesn't just happen to be Oh my god, 930 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.079 look good talking man, Like this is all planned, This 931 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:36.519 is all you know, set up this way. And they 932 00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.199 start talking about the sun god raw and then she 933 00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:41.519 starts talking about what if the guy's seen across from 934 00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:43.880 you was the sun God raw? So this is her 935 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.119 like trying to talk about this without talking about it. 936 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:47.280 This is a cute scene. 937 00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:48.440 It was. 938 00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.079 And then especially when he drops the line, why don't 939 00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:54.159 you just go ask Clark? Yeah, because he just gets 940 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:56.679 tired of her talking like in circles and like trying 941 00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:58.559 not to stuff. He's like, look, let's just get the 942 00:43:58.599 --> 00:43:59.960 cat out of the bag. Let's let's get it. 943 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.639 Oh yeah, we'll just cut through it. I love it, 944 00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:05.239 and this character would do that, right. But hey, let's 945 00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.000 not forget that. A tea comes in and brings them 946 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:14.480 some tea, I assume, and that's uh, it's uh Barry 947 00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:21.599 Allen and Iris west S daughter from the Future. It's yeah, 948 00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:25.280 she is still a terrible actress. She gets better by 949 00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:26.639 the time she's up in the Flash. I guess she 950 00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:28.840 took some I mean, look, I'm just being real all 951 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.000 she's she's not good. 952 00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:35.559 Yeah, I love her in the Flash. She had better 953 00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.239 chemistry with Grant Gustin. 954 00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:42.760 Than everyone great Tyler, everyone had better chemistry than Kenny Scottons. 955 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.519 I still wish. I still go back and say they 956 00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:48.480 screwed up and they let Patty leave the series. 957 00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:51.800 Yeah, they had great chemistry. I fell off the show 958 00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:56.079 at the middle of season four. I just I couldn't anymore. 959 00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:01.360 It was brilliant, but you know, it's just star Yeah. 960 00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:03.159 I don't even need to get into that. They're writing 961 00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:04.039 was got awful. 962 00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.000 But they're they're sprinkling in the suicide squad here, So 963 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.239 we see Plastick here. We don't know you ever gonna 964 00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:10.920 see her again. We're gonna see her fiery eyes and 965 00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:13.719 know that I know that that was her. We'll talk 966 00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:15.599 about it, right, But that's such a I don't like 967 00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.960 the suicide squad in Smallville like I I mean, Aero 968 00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.559 obviously has the best live action suicide squad. 969 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.480 We got to spend a little more time with them too. 970 00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.360 We do we and there's so much better they are 971 00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:27.679 the better. 972 00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:32.679 It's the characters they chose, like Plastic and then parasite, 973 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:33.760 like the small vill. 974 00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:37.719 Like that's the Injustice League, Tyler. Let's not be confused. 975 00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:39.519 Oh yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. 976 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:43.000 But plastic at all. She's on all the lame teams. 977 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:47.199 Yeah, the off shoots. Yeah, all the off shoots, the 978 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.440 off brand versions. We had the suicide squad at home. 979 00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.800 We haven't suicide squad at all. That's that's who these 980 00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:57.079 guys are. Oh my gosh, at least John McCain destro 981 00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:58.599 is not leading the suicide squad. 982 00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.559 That is the one that's probably the one casting to 983 00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:03.519 his whole series. I'm like, what were you thinking, Well, it's. 984 00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:05.519 Like he has an eyepatch on Bostar Galactica, so I 985 00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:08.079 guess he can be slaved. At the time, I didn't 986 00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:11.119 underst I didn't understand how wrong casting that was because 987 00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:13.119 I didn't really know much about death Stroke or anything 988 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:14.159 for the comics. 989 00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:17.000 And likewise, same thing. Actually, I didn't think much of it. 990 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:19.400 It was Michael Hogan is a is a sort of 991 00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.079 an iconic science fiction actor and he was playing this 992 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:27.039 you know, you know this antagonist. Yeah, exactly, And so 993 00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:29.440 I'm like it's a role that he'd play, he could 994 00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:31.400 do in his sleep. So I didn't think very much 995 00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:34.440 of it. But yeah, once I started understanding the mythology 996 00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.119 of the character and seeing him on Justice League as well, 997 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.800 I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, I think he's someone owed 998 00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:41.719 him a favor or I don't know someone. 999 00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.239 I mean, all the Canadian actors up there with BSG, like, 1000 00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:46.320 it was all a lot of crossover a lot of 1001 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:46.920 those actors. 1002 00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:49.559 So it took me a minute to realize that he 1003 00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:53.440 was like death Stroke. Like he said, Slade Wilson, I 1004 00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:55.719 just hadn't put the name with like the character yet. 1005 00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:59.639 And then he yeah, even when he says that, I 1006 00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:00.880 was like, that's kind of funny and. 1007 00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:03.119 The most inous lines to me of this show. 1008 00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:05.920 And then later on I was like it dawned on me, 1009 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.440 like oh my god, that's oh my god. 1010 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:09.840 I was just like, ah, that's all right, and hey, 1011 00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:11.800 you know what Hawkman talks about dying and who kills 1012 00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:13.800 him John McCain, Dead Strokes. There was no escape from 1013 00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.519 that conversation. But uh we uh we cut back to 1014 00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:20.320 Uh Clark and Cat and uh they're going out to 1015 00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.360 out to Kat's car and uh, and we see this 1016 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:28.039 guy with an eyepiece and it's got a bunch of 1017 00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.119 stats on it and he's looking at I think it's 1018 00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.639 just like a like a Dodge something. I I want 1019 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:36.519 to say it is. I want to say that, you know, 1020 00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:38.800 my best friend Lance Last from Ice on Air. I'm 1021 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.159 pretty sure he had the same car. The inside looked 1022 00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:45.559 very different, I would hope, so I think this was 1023 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:49.079 his car, Lance, let me know. But then what I 1024 00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:54.119 don't Why is dead Shot a cowboy? Right? 1025 00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:59.000 Steep punk cowboy thing? I didn't get. That threw me 1026 00:47:59.119 --> 00:47:59.840 off completely. 1027 00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:03.039 I have that my notes, like when did dead Shot 1028 00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:05.639 become like a cowboy? Like when did we get the 1029 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:07.840 wild West dead Shot? Like, I don't remember that in 1030 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:11.119 the comics unless these are from comics I never read 1031 00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:12.119 or new existed. 1032 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:17.519 Yeah, like dead Shot? I mean obviously, again, the best 1033 00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:20.320 one is from Marrow. He had a great story arc there. 1034 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.400 And then you know Will Smith. I love Little Smith. 1035 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.199 So yeah, he's fine. We'd be some kind of suicide. 1036 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:26.599 He's doing his thing. 1037 00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:29.440 Yeah, he did what he was hired to do in 1038 00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.079 that triangle bitch. 1039 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:32.840 Uh. 1040 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:39.679 So we see this magic bullet, it's the JFK bullet, 1041 00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:41.039 it's the bending bullet. I don't. 1042 00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:44.559 I mean, he's supposed to if if you're if you're 1043 00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.559 a Bond fan, when the Scaramanga sends him a bullet 1044 00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:49.440 with the double oh seven etched in it, that was 1045 00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:50.960 That's the first thing I thought of it. 1046 00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:52.840 Yeah, that's that has gotta be the inspiration. 1047 00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:55.159 Right, if he was a cooler villain, it would have 1048 00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.440 been awesome. They should have made it more like Scarabaga. 1049 00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:00.800 Christopher Lee so wasted though, and then one of the 1050 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:02.159 worst James Bond movies. 1051 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.400 Right, Oh yeah, yeah, he's the best thing about the movie. 1052 00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:06.440 He's the best thing about most of his films. He is, 1053 00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:06.880 he is. 1054 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.400 But yeah, we get that. We we just follow this 1055 00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.360 bullet kind of zooming through all this stuff, and he 1056 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:13.920 goes into the tailpipe of Cat Grant's car and she 1057 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.679 makes them really obnoxious like Grandpa always said, buckle up, 1058 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:21.840 and I'm like, oh my god, yeah, and the car 1059 00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:24.159 blows up, like please let her die, and this explodation. 1060 00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:28.880 It's the opening credits a casino. The opening credits a 1061 00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:31.840 casino with the car going up and then the flames everywhere. 1062 00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:36.960 It's true, so it's an epic super save. Right, he 1063 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.760 gets her out of that car, and because it's season ten, 1064 00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:42.440 we gotta like Clark's entire body blocks the car blowing 1065 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:44.079 up behind them, so we don't really have to see 1066 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:47.079 a lot. It's very clever blocking, right, Yeah, but yeah, 1067 00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:49.119 it's like her car is upside down on the street 1068 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:51.480 and and flames. We cut the commercial. We come back 1069 00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.960 and Clark is holding, as you said, the this Caravega 1070 00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:57.320 bullet right, it's it's yeah, and it looks like it 1071 00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.360 has the letters cat Grant on it, but as we 1072 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:03.400 find out, it really has the letters Clark Kin on it. 1073 00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:08.480 So my question to you about that is, what's what's 1074 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.679 his whole point? Like, what is he trying to accomplish? 1075 00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:15.559 Well, later on it makes sense because it's like, oh, 1076 00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:19.480 clark Kin is bulletproof. How are we going to shoot him? 1077 00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:23.679 I know we'll attack somebody that he's closer. Yeah, but 1078 00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:25.880 then that, but but then that doesn't really explain this, 1079 00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:29.320 and it also doesn't explain an All they need to 1080 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.719 do is hit him with and it doesn't have to 1081 00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:33.400 kill him. It just leaves a marker on him. For 1082 00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:34.480 them to track them, right. 1083 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:36.159 That's all they want is to track him. And then 1084 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.519 we see later on that Hawkman just puts water on 1085 00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:41.800 his face and it does the same thing. So I 1086 00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:44.239 feel like it's so convoluted and drawn out that they're 1087 00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:47.239 just trying to track Clark. Yeah, you know, and they're 1088 00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:49.320 trying to make it a mystery and a twist like Nope, 1089 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:50.760 they're after Clark, not Cat. 1090 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:55.400 And I'm starting to think they chose Kat Grant's name 1091 00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:58.079 purely so that they can do the twist of it 1092 00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:00.800 being because of the amount of letters that are sim Yeah, 1093 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.960 I'm starting to wonder if that's the whole freaking reason 1094 00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:05.679 they used it. Just goes ah, look at the names. 1095 00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:07.880 They have the same, they have the right letters in it. 1096 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:09.000 We can missmash it. 1097 00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:11.559 They wrote this whole episode and the song's like, hey, guys, 1098 00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:14.079 didn't we use her last season? Like all right, we'll 1099 00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:17.840 write a lie in it. Ron Troop doesn't have the 1100 00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.480 same letters as a Cat Grant unfortunately, so she's. 1101 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:23.639 Not really Cat Grant. She's just she stole that name. 1102 00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:26.880 She's really this person that's later on in my notes. 1103 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.119 What's funny is Cat Grant is like I was a 1104 00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:31.599 valuatorian who would want to kill me and Clark' say 1105 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:34.159 maybe they confused you with somebody else. And it's like, 1106 00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:36.519 remember we just talked about how you're not the woman 1107 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:38.599 from the TV show. This would have been the time 1108 00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.800 to lean into that more. But that's such an afterthought, right, 1109 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:44.280 But then she starts going off about how Lois Lane's 1110 00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.760 and conspiracy theorists and you sound like her and you know, 1111 00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:50.920 always rallying against you know, normal people. He's like normal 1112 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.199 people and like it's like lifestyle choices, like whoa you know, 1113 00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:56.039 so like the other they're trying to get in political 1114 00:51:56.239 --> 00:52:01.320 Yeah right, this is this is them. Okay again, I 1115 00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:03.639 like there's other characters of the Daily Planet, and I 1116 00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:06.840 do look, I do give this. This episode is a 1117 00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:08.840 really messy set up for a plot line for the 1118 00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:12.320 whole season, and it's about like hey, vigilantes and coming 1119 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:14.000 out of the shadows and all that sort of stuff. 1120 00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:17.239 I like that idea, but like you were talking about, Tyler, 1121 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.440 it's a very convoluted set up and it's all it 1122 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:23.400 kind of gets lost in this in this half baked mystery, 1123 00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:24.360 you know what I mean. 1124 00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.039 It is like it's just once you watch the other 1125 00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:28.480 and you go back and you're like, if they're just 1126 00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:30.360 trying to tag them, there is a much easier way. 1127 00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:33.960 M hmm. Well, and well she doesn't make a good 1128 00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:36.519 point because Clark's like, wholla, she used to say these 1129 00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:38.639 things about these people if they can't defend themselves, and 1130 00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:40.159 she's like, well, why don't they just come out and 1131 00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:43.199 speak out for themselves. I was like, well, yeah, that's 1132 00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:44.880 actually good point, and that's I guess that's why Oliver, 1133 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:46.400 you know, says I am iron Man. 1134 00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:51.159 Later this season, they played the Black Sabbat song afterwards. 1135 00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:55.400 Yeah, and this Believe or Not, y'all, this is post 1136 00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.599 iron Man, right, I mean we were small list so 1137 00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:00.840 long we were we were the MCU was ongoing right now. 1138 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:03.920 Yeah, it started before that. It started before Sam Raii's 1139 00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:07.960 before Sam Raimi Spider Man, and it ends right after 1140 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:10.199 the beginning of the MCU. It's pretty wild. 1141 00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:13.159 Yeah, I do love or She's like, well, who would 1142 00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:18.719 want to kill me? And Clark's like, okay, well that 1143 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:21.760 like half second of like oh my gosh from Tom Well, 1144 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.800 like it's a great, great moment there. He's like, hey, 1145 00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:27.119 you know what, you can stay at a friend's apartment 1146 00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.599 they won't mind. And I was like, what what friends 1147 00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:32.800 apartment is she gonna be in? Like I don't I'm 1148 00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:34.960 trying to think, and I'm like, oh, it's the talent 1149 00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.679 because again, we built that set town in two thousand 1150 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.800 and three or whenever we first saw that set. So 1151 00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:42.440 we're gonna use all these sets all we can. We're 1152 00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.400 gonna go on a three hour ride to Smallville. 1153 00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:47.119 I don't know why they couldn't just redress some of 1154 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.280 these sets. I just find because it's it's not like 1155 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.800 it's not like the Talent apartment is so rich and 1156 00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:57.920 complex that they can't do anything with it. It's like, 1157 00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:01.239 move some furniture around block, get differently and say that 1158 00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:04.400 this is an apartment in Metropolis. But I don't know. 1159 00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:07.199 I feel like there's this sort of like they want 1160 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:12.119 to keep reminding you of Smallville, and it's like, we understand, 1161 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.480 we understand you guys didn't want to change the title. 1162 00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:17.800 You shouldn't have anyway, because I mean, it just wouldn't 1163 00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.760 make sense at this point. There's really no need to 1164 00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:25.360 constantly be reminding us of Smallville. Lois already calls him 1165 00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:27.039 that every episode that's about. 1166 00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:29.280 To say you know that the switches that the meaning 1167 00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.679 of Smallville goes from the place to meaning him exactly. 1168 00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.000 It's like, instead of naming the show Clark Kent, we 1169 00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:39.039 call it Smallville, you know his nicknames. That's the legacy 1170 00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:41.280 that that show takes on because it's like, you know, 1171 00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:45.119 it's him. And Yeah, to your point, that goes back 1172 00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.320 to what I was saying earlier about certain characters even 1173 00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:53.599 even settings that outweigh or outlast what they're needed. And 1174 00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:56.639 we were at a point now where from season eight on, 1175 00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:58.559 like they had to find a way to get back 1176 00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:00.920 to Smallville. And Zach, I know you and I had 1177 00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:02.480 this conversation. You've had it with a lot of people. 1178 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:06.199 The distance between Atropolis and small vill keeps shrinking and 1179 00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.360 shrinking and shrinking, Like it was like a three hour drive, 1180 00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:13.559 you know. Now it's just like a ten to fifteen 1181 00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:17.719 minute commute, maybe thirty maybe thirty. No one will be 1182 00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:20.840 looking for you in Smallville. I just that was a 1183 00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:21.440 funny line. 1184 00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:24.880 Yeah, yeah, creating that Like what was that like that 1185 00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:29.079 train or that let that rail from what they're still 1186 00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.679 using that right or was that exclusively for season. 1187 00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:36.000 They've they've mentioned with the trade down like they've mentioned that, 1188 00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:36.760 so I'm sure that's it. 1189 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.760 All they had to say was that all literally literally 1190 00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:42.840 one episode, you have Lex donating a lot of money 1191 00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:45.559 for a big project that could get you from small 1192 00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:49.199 Villa metropolis in ninety minutes. That at least I'll accept that, 1193 00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:51.920 or an hour, I'll accept that at least. But it's 1194 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.199 just sort of, you know, you just sort of has 1195 00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:57.480 to accept the fact that apparently these people really really 1196 00:55:57.639 --> 00:55:59.639 enjoy a nice long ride to work in the morning. 1197 00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.119 You start early, leave at three am. 1198 00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:06.320 Yeah, I know, right, but hey, who is that the 1199 00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:09.559 talent apartment? I guess Clark didn't check with anybody before 1200 00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:11.800 sending Kat Grant there. Because Oliver is there just going 1201 00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:14.880 through stuff. He sees this picture of Chloe, the selfie 1202 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:16.880 of her in like bed. I'm like, when was this 1203 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:17.639 cake in? Right? 1204 00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:19.480 I'm like, okay, like that was a weird self was 1205 00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:21.480 one of those? Maybe maybe she sent him? 1206 00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:23.559 Yeah, nice for her to leave that there for him, though, 1207 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:24.119 I thank you. 1208 00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:25.760 I think it's interesting she printed it. 1209 00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:30.039 Yeah, and she also leaves this bottle, like this empty bottle. 1210 00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.519 What could it be? We'll find out later. But Oliver 1211 00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:35.280 he hears he hears somebody coming in, So he ducks 1212 00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:38.039 out and Cat Grant comes in. She's got the classic 1213 00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:41.280 grocery bag of a you know, a loaf of bread 1214 00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.239 and a and a piece of lettuce. Every that's every 1215 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:46.679 Hollywood grocery bag. Just love that. Look here's the deal, 1216 00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:49.559 Cat Grant. She's kind of annoy right, and she's pretty 1217 00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:52.519 anti you know, quote unquote vigilanti. She even had like 1218 00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:54.880 a newspaper article about like the green arrow was like 1219 00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:57.239 the mean arrow in her old newspaper. That was pretty funny, right, 1220 00:56:57.360 --> 00:56:59.599 So she turns around who she see but the mean 1221 00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:02.239 narrow himself. I'm like, I guess Oliver stashes green arrow 1222 00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:02.920 gear with him when. 1223 00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:08.199 He my My biggest quote was wow, that was a 1224 00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:12.519 fast change. Like he changed faster than like Superman, Like 1225 00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:14.199 all of a sudden, he's he's in full I'm just like, 1226 00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:16.800 you know, the jacket, the shirt, the jeans. Then like 1227 00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:20.159 he hears a sound boom, full green arrow costume. 1228 00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.400 Like David Spade and Tommy Boy on the airplane. If 1229 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.320 anyone gets you, anyone gets you that reference. He walks 1230 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:27.440 into the bathroom wearing one thing, comes out wearing a 1231 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:28.920 different thing in about two seconds. 1232 00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:31.360 I mean it would have been more since that he 1233 00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:33.880 was just already in the green arrow costume. Yeah, yeah, 1234 00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:36.159 I guess he's Oliver. He has a right to be 1235 00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:39.679 there already. But whatever, but she just she pulls out 1236 00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:43.960 like a pepper spray and a taser and an air horny. 1237 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:45.559 He just defeats one after the other. That was a 1238 00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:49.599 rather amusing exchange, and he's I'm not doing it for 1239 00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:52.039 the moody. The voice changer's back. I love it. 1240 00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:56.280 Yeah, I like the voice changer on him, Darler. 1241 00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:00.599 They're really whiting it, hope. Though when restored it was 1242 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:02.199 like this, I know, I feel like it was a 1243 00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:04.360 little bit like this, and all of his voices like this, 1244 00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:06.920 and it's like, guys, there's there's almost no point in doing. 1245 00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:11.199 And now she has eyewitness testimony that vigilantis have been 1246 00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:14.519 torturing people in the brewery by the docks, and on 1247 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.840 her BlackBerry, he said, shoot that, and he takes a 1248 00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:20.320 BlackBerry and he disappears and does the whole Batman thing. 1249 00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:25.800 So that's what that feels like. But that this is 1250 00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:28.679 a crucial clue actually for Oliver because this is where 1251 00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:31.280 he was. He was the person being tortured down by 1252 00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:32.599 the found by the docks. 1253 00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:34.719 Right, and then in the in the dank warehouse or 1254 00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:36.760 whatever with the chains all over the place. 1255 00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:37.760 Mm hm. 1256 00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:40.960 You know, the other think it's funny when they talk 1257 00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:42.400 about Vigilannes in the shadows, and. 1258 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:45.800 I'm like, that's their whole point, that's the idea. Yeah, 1259 00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:49.000 it's just like when we committee. 1260 00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:51.519 Like, why are you wearing a mask? That's the whole point. 1261 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:54.480 Like so you don't know who I am? Like, have 1262 00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:56.639 we not ever read a book or watched a movie? 1263 00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:59.039 Here a show or something like? Do they not exist 1264 00:58:59.119 --> 00:58:59.599 in this world? 1265 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:01.000 War Angel? People? 1266 00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:03.199 People know exactly what I say, Warrior Angel, Like, why 1267 00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:05.360 did Warrior Angel hide his identity? 1268 00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:09.880 Yeah? The classic, the classic of secret identity thing has 1269 00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.559 definitely been kind of scrubbed away from from superhero media 1270 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:16.000 for for a bit now, And there was like a 1271 00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:18.079 period of time where you almost got frustrated with it. 1272 00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:20.199 You're like, oh God, why you just tell people? And 1273 00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:21.920 then now we're on the flip side of that, and 1274 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.119 I'm like, now now they're kind of it's like the boys, 1275 00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:27.920 like they're more like in the universe, they're more like 1276 00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.880 celebrities as opposed to you know, superheroes who are just 1277 00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:33.280 doing this because it's right. 1278 00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:36.719 Well, that's that's you effect, I think, because there's you 1279 00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.800 and I'm one of those people. John, I'm like, hey, yeah, 1280 00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:43.840 I please bring back secret identities. There's there's so much 1281 00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:46.360 fun story potential, so much of the whimsy of these 1282 00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:47.719 characters comes. It's built in. 1283 00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:51.719 It's built in conflict. It's right there. Yeah, Like, well, narratively, 1284 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:53.800 you have a conflict right there you can. 1285 00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:55.719 Use because we can all relate to that. Not that 1286 00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:58.079 like we have these double lives and we're off saving 1287 00:59:58.119 --> 01:00:01.400 the world, right, But it's like because things that I'm 1288 01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:02.760 just trying to protect my secret identity. 1289 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:03.360 There you go. 1290 01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:05.280 But it's like you have a confide, you have something 1291 01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:07.239 you want to do, something you need to do, and 1292 01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:09.880 you always like I gotta do what I need to 1293 01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:11.119 do and you can't do what you want to do 1294 01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:13.119 and you can, like you know, relate, teaches you like 1295 01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:14.280 responsibility and stuff. 1296 01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:15.159 Yeah. 1297 01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:18.960 Absolutely, Speaking of secret identities, we find out the cat 1298 01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:20.559 Grant it's not her real name. 1299 01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:22.760 Tyler, Nope, Mary Louise. 1300 01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.440 Sure, she looks like a Mary Louis. She looks like 1301 01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:27.480 a Mary Louise. I'll buy it. 1302 01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:29.719 I looked that up and I was like, I couldn't 1303 01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:31.000 find any precedent for. 1304 01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:34.960 That, So that's how they work around that. She's Cat 1305 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:35.840 but she's not Cat. 1306 01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:38.639 I guess that's what she just took that lady's name 1307 01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:39.519 from the TV. I guess. 1308 01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:41.800 I guess if I was being hunted, I would change 1309 01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:43.960 my name to Zach Moore. There you go, There you go, 1310 01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.039 talks about Superman. Must be the same guy, not the 1311 01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:47.960 one for the podcast. 1312 01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:51.639 But Clark's down He's down there looking at personal files 1313 01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.480 on the Daily Planet and hard copy like not on 1314 01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:57.760 the computer, but I guess it's twenty eleven, so sure whatever. 1315 01:00:58.239 --> 01:00:59.760 That's how he had to get to find out her 1316 01:00:59.880 --> 01:01:02.760 name was changed her digital files. 1317 01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:05.000 But Tess is down there and she's like, oh, yeah, 1318 01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:07.400 for to have a lot in common, Like, oh, I 1319 01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:12.679 get it because the secrets and you know, sure, there's 1320 01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.800 still this interesting like Clark still doesn't really like and 1321 01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:18.079 trust tests and she keeps wanting him to trust her, 1322 01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:20.320 and like, I don't really blame Clark because she's been 1323 01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:22.079 some shady stuff for a couple of years. 1324 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:25.000 Right, yeah, because every time she every time she helps, 1325 01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:27.239 she'll help with something that's great, and then he'll find 1326 01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:30.079 out two other things about her. Hey, he'll find out 1327 01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:34.440 that in helping him she did something very sinister duplicit is, 1328 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:37.920 or she'll he'll find out another thing like he was. 1329 01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:40.480 She was helping him, but she left out some information, 1330 01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:43.519 so it was lying by omission. So I mean, you know, 1331 01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:46.400 he's got a lot of trust issues, stretching back to 1332 01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:51.679 his first boyfriend, Lex the So I mean, I get it. 1333 01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:55.039 I mean, Tests is it's the thing is, it's just 1334 01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:57.880 her nature and that's kind of that's her arc this 1335 01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.239 season is the part of her that's looser and the 1336 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:04.440 part of her that wants to be something else. I 1337 01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:06.880 mean that goes back to Lex in the first few seasons. 1338 01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:11.000 But when they did it with with with Tests with Cassidy, 1339 01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:14.039 it it fortunately to me at least, didn't feel like 1340 01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:16.760 they were just treading old ground. I felt like her 1341 01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:20.559 relationship with Clark was very interesting and you understood why 1342 01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:24.639 she for her. I feel like if Clark fully trusted her, 1343 01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:28.360 she'd finally feel as though, maybe not full redemption, but 1344 01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:33.639 she'd actually you know, feel like he's atoning for for 1345 01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:36.039 all of her, for a lot of her evil actions. 1346 01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:40.199 But unfortunately, when you become desperate for something, you then 1347 01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:44.480 start doing you know, desperate things. So when she does that, 1348 01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:47.159 then it shows her darker side again. So every time 1349 01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:49.440 she gets a little bit ahead, she gets knocked back 1350 01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:50.159 a few steps. 1351 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.760 But she she's always willing to help Clark to kind 1352 01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:56.679 of proof for you know, Willing needs to be one 1353 01:02:56.679 --> 01:02:58.119 of the good guys right now, right, and that's that's 1354 01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:00.119 what that's what we're going for now. And you know, 1355 01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:02.320 it's funny Clark, men, She's like, something's going on with 1356 01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:04.880 Cat Like you're speaking suspicious phone calls and like, yeah, 1357 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:07.119 these suspicious phone calls going to go. They're not like 1358 01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:09.119 her son, for guys, it's just funny that that's the 1359 01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:11.519 first place he goes, right, But he goes in and say, like, 1360 01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:13.840 you know, her car got blown up today and the 1361 01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:17.280 explosion was caused by a bullet launched perfectly in the 1362 01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:21.639 combustion chamber. It's graved. The letters that you can see 1363 01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:27.320 are AAR N T, which could potentially be catrant and 1364 01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:31.320 they could also potentially be Clark can't. But Tess has 1365 01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:35.159 seen this work before and she I loved for her 1366 01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:38.760 old her old Apple computer on her desk like that 1367 01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:41.320 that takes me back when like I like I think 1368 01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:42.800 it was like coffee shops I used to go to 1369 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:45.280 had those kind of computers to use and like the 1370 01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:49.519 giant white ivacs. Anyway, she pulls up FBI five most 1371 01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:54.440 funted fugitives like this basic Microsoft painto Graphic website. Dead 1372 01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:56.719 Shot pulls them up right, makes sense. The test with 1373 01:03:57.079 --> 01:03:59.599 being the chickmate world, you know, she knows about these 1374 01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:01.480 kinds of thing. Check me. Could never I d him, 1375 01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:02.920 but they just called him dead Shot. 1376 01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:05.559 Yeah, dead Shot. He's right up there with Bin Laden 1377 01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:07.800 and Hannibal Lecter on the on the top five. 1378 01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:12.960 Shot. So occasionally I'll alter it if I can't really 1379 01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:17.599 hear something, I'll you know, turned on the subtitles of 1380 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:19.639 rewind and look again. So I did that with this 1381 01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:21.400 episode for a couple of times, and they have to 1382 01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:24.119 be on for this this scene. It says dead Shot 1383 01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:29.159 Southern accent but for dead Shot, which should we laugh? 1384 01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:29.320 Now? 1385 01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:32.760 This dead Shot he's played by Bradley Striker, and I 1386 01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:35.920 guess him and Justin Harley hit it off because he 1387 01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:39.000 was most recently in an episode of Tracker, so he's 1388 01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:41.440 you guests started in that. He was in an episode 1389 01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:44.880 of Arrow, So he was in an episode. 1390 01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:50.880 Of fringeisode Fringe Classic not appreciated enough. 1391 01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:54.559 Love Fringe It's It's it's half the length of the 1392 01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:56.199 X Files, and even better. 1393 01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:59.679 So because it actually ends, and it actually gives a propert. 1394 01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:05.000 Closer to their arc and payoff for all the I 1395 01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:08.760 highly recommend French, could not recommend enough. But I just 1396 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:10.119 wanted to call that out. I thought it was interesting 1397 01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:12.679 that he's, you know, he's still hardworking actor day and 1398 01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:14.719 he was on Tracker with Justin Harley recently. 1399 01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:16.880 So throw he was also in Supernatural. 1400 01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:18.280 There you go, Supernatural. 1401 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:22.719 Everyone was Supernatural exactly. Even I was in Supernatural at 1402 01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:25.119 some point. I mean, every every every everybody's been on 1403 01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:25.599 that show. 1404 01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:29.599 So this establishes the dead shot didn't know that Clark 1405 01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:33.079 Kent was bulletproof. But again, what so why would you 1406 01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:35.679 blow up a car if you're trying to Mark Clark. 1407 01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:36.960 I mean, to your point, Tyler just makes no. 1408 01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:40.559 Sense once you find I mean, we're gonna get a 1409 01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:42.239 line here later. I want to bring this up right 1410 01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:45.239 now about Kat. You know, Adam her son, and they 1411 01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.360 had to take her from his dad. Wouldn't have been 1412 01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:53.119 better if just Floyd was Adam's dad or something? Yeah, 1413 01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:55.760 you know what I'm saying, like he's after her for 1414 01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:57.920 his son, you know. 1415 01:05:58.159 --> 01:05:59.960 That's all. That's the whole thing dead Shot, his backstory 1416 01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:02.920 and his daughter, right yeah, so I mean they can 1417 01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:04.920 a child whoever, right, you. 1418 01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:06.360 Know, I'm just saying like they could have made something 1419 01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:08.639 or like the dad had hired him or something. I 1420 01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:10.719 don't know, because, like I said, once you figure it 1421 01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:12.920 out that it's Clark he's after and he's there to 1422 01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:15.760 marking and we don't really see like he's testing Clark 1423 01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:18.400 or he's trying to like figure out his powers or anything, 1424 01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:21.800 then you're just kind of like the what. 1425 01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:22.400 Was all this? 1426 01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:25.920 Like dead Shot needs to be his own one off episode. 1427 01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:27.920 You call it dead Shot and it's a guy trying 1428 01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:30.039 to get Clark and then eventually makes a krypt Night 1429 01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:31.480 bullet or something like. That's what you do. 1430 01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:35.119 Like he's just running the who's running Checkmate? Or the 1431 01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:37.880 suicide squad? Right now? Who's Rick Flagg answering to do? 1432 01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:42.719 They ever? That's it. It's just he's just he's the top. 1433 01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:43.280 Dog and then. 1434 01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:49.639 In charge, right yeah sure, yeah, but it's it would 1435 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:52.679 have been interesting as if we found out that, yeah, 1436 01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:54.559 like if we had done if they had done something 1437 01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:56.840 like that, and Flag had you know, had lied and 1438 01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:00.400 manipulated Floyd saying, hey, you know this that and the 1439 01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:03.519 other thing is happening, and you know your kid this that, 1440 01:07:03.719 --> 01:07:07.199 and then just manipulates him into into trying to kill 1441 01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:09.679 Clark or whatever insane thing that they were trying to do. 1442 01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:13.320 Because at least that goes to just how how ruthless 1443 01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:17.960 and unscrupulous Checkmate or suicide squad is that that they 1444 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:21.000 would use his vulnerabilities against him to make him want 1445 01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:23.440 to have a little bit more of a dog in 1446 01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:25.400 the fight, because he's just kind of like, yeah, I'm 1447 01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:27.039 a part of the suicide squad, I'm going to do this. 1448 01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:28.840 I'm going to do that. I'm the bad guy. And 1449 01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:32.000 if you gave him, if you know, he gave him 1450 01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:34.880 a little bit more agency, and you actually gave him 1451 01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:38.280 a little bit more stake in it, then his desire 1452 01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:40.679 to kill one or both of them, it makes him 1453 01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:44.119 more of an an intimidating villain. But as it stands, 1454 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:49.400 he's just a very strangely dressed henchman who's just been 1455 01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:53.679 unleashed to commit this very strange, convoluted. 1456 01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:56.679 HiT's like a bond villain at this point wed. 1457 01:07:58.000 --> 01:07:59.960 He's kind of there. They should have made him more 1458 01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:02.840 more like Francisco Scaramanga, if they made him more like that, 1459 01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:05.239 like you know, like why not, Like he's he's a 1460 01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:07.519 guy of high society and he likes but he also 1461 01:08:07.679 --> 01:08:09.760 likes to, you know, kill people for a living. That 1462 01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:10.760 would be kind of interesting. 1463 01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:13.679 So this eyepiece he has, I want to say, it's 1464 01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:15.960 the same one the guy from Arrow has his big 1465 01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:17.960 red eye. Fies like it might be the same prop 1466 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:22.119 I don't know, but it's just this probably giant steampunk 1467 01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:23.960 looking red eye Fe's is all kind of the same 1468 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.439 to me. I don't know. But after dead Shot loses 1469 01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:28.600 his eye, and that's the other thing. It's like at 1470 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:31.159 least Arrow had the balls to like actually bake dead 1471 01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:33.479 Shot and one eyed. You know, that was pretty cool, right, 1472 01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:34.159 I don't know. 1473 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:37.079 I mean, ditch Shot has done significantly better on that. 1474 01:08:37.319 --> 01:08:39.279 I mean a lot of things are done significantly better 1475 01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:40.039 than that. 1476 01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:44.039 Season Season ten of Smallville has done better in season 1477 01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:47.840 two of Aarro. Let's just's just so much of these characters, right, Dead, 1478 01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:50.279 death Stroke, dead Shot, you know down the list, right, 1479 01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:54.720 But anyway, that establishes the greater plot with dead Shot. 1480 01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:57.520 I'm like, okay, well all you remember about him is 1481 01:08:57.560 --> 01:08:59.800 this goofy cowboy for no reason. That's all you remember. 1482 01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:02.720 They thought they were doing Jonah Hexts and then they 1483 01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:04.840 realized that they were doing dead Shot, but they already 1484 01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:05.600 made the costume. 1485 01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:08.319 Dude, that was totally I could say my notes on 1486 01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:10.000 like Jonah Hex's question mark because you see, like he 1487 01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:11.680 has a scratch on his face, and I was like, 1488 01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:12.760 is this. 1489 01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:15.920 Like it? 1490 01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:19.399 When did Jonah Hext's movie come out before this? 1491 01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:22.960 So maybe something Yeah, maybe the costume, like hey you 1492 01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:23.399 can use this. 1493 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.439 Maybe they were like through the trash, do you want 1494 01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:27.840 to use it? 1495 01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:30.680 Is Jolin's costume? 1496 01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:31.039 I love that. 1497 01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:33.840 Maybe they were going to do like he was Jonah 1498 01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:35.479 Hexts and they're like, oh, you can't use that character, 1499 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.000 and they had already like started and like, h We're 1500 01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:39.199 just going to change into dead Shot. 1501 01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:42.039 Yeah, would make even less sense than dead Shot here though, 1502 01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:43.840 Tyler unfortunately, right, Oh. 1503 01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:45.640 I mean it would. It's twenty ten when that movie 1504 01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:46.239 came out. 1505 01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:47.720 Yeah, that was the summer before. 1506 01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:52.239 Yeah, maybe they were so inspired, they were so inspired 1507 01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:58.359 by that masterpiece that character. Bring that yeah, bring that energy. 1508 01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:04.560 You know, some some people some people say Supergirl or 1509 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:06.760 Batman or Robber are the worst comic movies of all time. 1510 01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:07.800 I say, Jonah Hacks. 1511 01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:13.279 I saw that absolutely. You know, Supergirl and Batman Robin 1512 01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:16.079 have a great charm about them. There's a lot of creativity, 1513 01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:18.000 there's truth, you know what I mean. See, you could 1514 01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:22.239 always find something fun, especially if you're inebriated. It's always 1515 01:10:22.319 --> 01:10:23.840 a blast to watch either of those. 1516 01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:27.279 Even Catwoman has that insane basketball scene. 1517 01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:31.279 You know, it's yeah, it's absolutely I think there's one. 1518 01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:36.279 Of Jonah Hacks other than an interesting point that people 1519 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:38.800 forget Michael Fassman for Yeah, I was just gonna say 1520 01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:40.880 he's in that John Malcovich. 1521 01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:42.319 You know, it's always good to see John. 1522 01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:48.479 Yeah, speaking of French, and so is uh Jeffrey Dean 1523 01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:49.239 Morgan's and I think. 1524 01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:52.600 That's right, he's that corpse he talks to see Olet 1525 01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:54.920 you watching Hex But no, it really is the worst 1526 01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:58.840 chromic movie of all time. So except for the flash, 1527 01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:03.439 am I right? Anyway, let's move on, mcal we come 1528 01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:07.199 back from commercial and of course Kat Grant has a 1529 01:11:07.239 --> 01:11:10.359 I Believe in Unicorns t shirt, which is like, okay, 1530 01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:12.479 we get it now. It is cute that she's wearing 1531 01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:14.439 this bulletproof vest the whole time. I like it. 1532 01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:18.399 Yeah, yeah, that feels like it would be someone who's 1533 01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:21.000 paranoid after being like found out there's a bullet shot 1534 01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:23.000 and you're scared and being attapped by the green arrow. 1535 01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:27.039 Like, yeah, it's kind of the it's sort of a 1536 01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:30.640 perfect it's sort of like a perfect what do you 1537 01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:34.520 call it, microcosm for her character because she's well, like 1538 01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:36.960 pink and bubbly on the outside, but then she has 1539 01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:39.399 this sort of dark secret. So in this case, she 1540 01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:42.560 has her her bubbly outfits, but she's also wearing kevlar 1541 01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:47.000 underneath it. So yeah, that that definitely works. Every time 1542 01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:49.039 they have a bad idea, they've got something that kind 1543 01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:49.920 of works out fine. 1544 01:11:50.399 --> 01:11:53.039 I also am really impressed by I don't know if 1545 01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:54.680 it's Kloe or Lois or who claims as a part 1546 01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:57.359 of any Mormon, really impressed by their knife set because 1547 01:11:57.439 --> 01:11:59.760 when Kat hears the noise at the door, she pulls 1548 01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:02.159 giant knife. It looks nice knife. You know it's Clark 1549 01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:04.640 and he's here, and he's in his red shirt, blue jacket, 1550 01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:06.640 and I don't think you've seen this outfit a while 1551 01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:08.520 when when he stopped wearing the blue shirt red jacket. 1552 01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:10.560 They took out the red shard blue jacket from the 1553 01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:13.680 rotation too. I don't this very well. Maybe the last 1554 01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:15.439 time we see this combination of clothing, we'll have to 1555 01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:16.800 keep an eye for it. I didn't do a counter 1556 01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:19.399 for this, you know, quote unquote bizarro combination. 1557 01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:22.399 I think you do see it again. I think you do. 1558 01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:25.760 I'm not one hundred percent positive, but I think there's 1559 01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:27.000 at least one more time. 1560 01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:31.920 Well, if you're wrong, we're gonna laugh at you, John. 1561 01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:35.319 That's fine. That's fine. I laugh at myself every day. 1562 01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:38.239 But it is a wise decision too. When he's like, 1563 01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:40.680 you know, when he goes and throws away the blue 1564 01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:42.319 shirt red jacket, it's like it would make sense to 1565 01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:44.520 not wear this as well. So because he's I really 1566 01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:46.640 liked his I really have really like Clark's wardrobe and 1567 01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:49.159 season nine and ten because he's like wearing normal clothes. 1568 01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:51.880 He's not this silly. And yes, I know the irony 1569 01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:53.840 for me saying this because Superman comes from the com books, 1570 01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:56.119 but he's not the silly cartoon character of a person anymore. 1571 01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:59.439 Wearing the same thing every time. It's funny. 1572 01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:02.840 It is funny because we talked about before, like an 1573 01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:05.159 earlier season where like he'd be like a white T 1574 01:13:05.319 --> 01:13:08.359 shirt with a flannel, a flannel, yeah, around jacket. And 1575 01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:10.399 then there was an episode Zach I was on with 1576 01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:12.840 you we talked about he wore a white shirt with 1577 01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:16.079 like a yellow and black flannel. It's the only time 1578 01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:17.399 we've ever seen wearing yellow. 1579 01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:22.560 Yeah, it looked good on him too. Yeah, like my, my, my, 1580 01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:26.000 My two passions are film and fashion. I love clothes. 1581 01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:28.960 I have way too much. You're one hundred percent corrects. 1582 01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:32.119 Back in the earlier seasons and even just the previous season, 1583 01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:34.439 they were like, let's see Tom Welling in more than 1584 01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:38.000 one outfits. You have this, you know, you have this 1585 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:40.560 character who has more than just blue and red. You 1586 01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:44.239 could incorporate gold and yellow and all that, and they 1587 01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:46.920 for some reason just decided to turn him into a 1588 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:50.079 cartoon character and give because I mean, obviously we know 1589 01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:53.000 that in some season seven and eight it was meant 1590 01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:56.239 to be his proto costume. Yeah, but it's not. It 1591 01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:57.199 was a jacket. 1592 01:13:57.239 --> 01:13:59.720 Least I'm gonna put this when I do superheroes. 1593 01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:00.000 Yeah. 1594 01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:02.439 Yeah, but then that's all he wore, and I'm like 1595 01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:05.479 Is he sleeping in that stuff? Does he just does 1596 01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:08.680 he have like Bulky. 1597 01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:10.560 In every premiere It's like he's always in that, always 1598 01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:11.159 in that costume. 1599 01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:13.760 Either of you seen last action here out with Arnold Schwartze, 1600 01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:16.079 Oh yeah, yeah? Is this scene where they go into 1601 01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:18.359 his apartment and he opens up the closet door and 1602 01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:22.720 it's just red shirts, just brown leather jackets, jeans and boots. 1603 01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:26.159 And I'm like, is does that? Is that what Clark has? 1604 01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:28.520 Or is he just very fast at washing the only 1605 01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:29.760 set he has over the. 1606 01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:31.760 Kids bought in bulk when they bought their clothes. 1607 01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:34.239 I guess, yeah, exactly, he bought in bulk. He found 1608 01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:35.640 what worked. Gonna stick with you. 1609 01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:37.560 The thing was like it was it was like he's 1610 01:14:37.640 --> 01:14:39.279 they started that. I think there might have been one 1611 01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:41.319 instance in season one when it was a different jacket, 1612 01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:43.039 but he's like he kind of had a red jacket 1613 01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:44.760 over a blue shirt or something. And then in season 1614 01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:46.199 two they started to stink that in. It was like 1615 01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:50.279 a really important episode. It's like Insurgents Rosetta, right, It's like, okay, 1616 01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:53.680 big time stuff. But then by the time season four 1617 01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:56.840 came along, I think seasons four through seven literally every 1618 01:14:56.880 --> 01:14:58.199 two or three episodes, and that's why I have that 1619 01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:01.520 counter which is ridiculously high. But I decided it's a 1620 01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:05.319 different blue shirt red jacket than the biker jacket we're 1621 01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:06.720 going to talk about at the end of this episode 1622 01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:08.520 because and that's and that's kind of my problem with 1623 01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:10.119 the biker jacket, because it's kind of the same, but 1624 01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:12.680 it's kind of different. But anyway, enough about his clothes, 1625 01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:15.479 although we consider another hour talking about it. 1626 01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:17.399 I could talk about what looks good on Tom Welling 1627 01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:20.840 all day. I wish the costume designers could have had 1628 01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:21.760 that conversation too. 1629 01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:27.079 Oh it's true. It's true. So uh, Clark starts stalking 1630 01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:29.000 to Cat and we get we get the real backstory 1631 01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:32.520 about like, hey, you know, I had a son running 1632 01:15:32.520 --> 01:15:35.159 away from his father. Things went bad, it changed my name, 1633 01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:37.119 and it's like so she becomes like she becomes more 1634 01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:39.279 sympathetic knowing about like she has some real world stuff 1635 01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:41.399 she's dealing with, and she's not just this like you know, 1636 01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:44.039 you know airhead, you know, right, Yeah. 1637 01:15:44.279 --> 01:15:47.119 Her son is that her his grandparents, which would be 1638 01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:50.199 her parents. And I guess if I was trying to 1639 01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:54.439 find my child, those were one of the first people 1640 01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:55.560 I would track down. 1641 01:15:56.199 --> 01:16:00.319 Mmming to Sarah Khan mother. 1642 01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:03.439 You know what I'm saying, Like, if it was like well, 1643 01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:06.720 if I can't find my wife or my girlfriend or whatever, 1644 01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:09.399 her parents would probably be a good place to go 1645 01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:13.479 to at least find on information about where she might be. So, 1646 01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:16.520 you know, I've always I always joked with my wife 1647 01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:18.520 we ever had to hide our kids or whatever, Like 1648 01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:22.840 I have some trusted friends who live you know, distance, 1649 01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:25.760 like I would put my kids there because. 1650 01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:27.520 If something that situation ever has to happen. 1651 01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:30.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah exactly. But you 1652 01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:32.039 know what I'm saying, Like one of those jokes you're 1653 01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:33.560 watching the show and you're kind of talking about, well, 1654 01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:34.960 if I was doing this, I would be like this. 1655 01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:37.159 Oh yeah, you're apocalypse plan. 1656 01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:40.279 So because like, oh, we'll put them with your parents 1657 01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:42.680 or you know, with my brother. Yeah, the first places 1658 01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:43.600 people would think to look. 1659 01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:47.359 Yeah, it's the thing that KNT Grant's sort of the 1660 01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:50.239 thing that the character suffers from is that she was 1661 01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:53.760 used as a lynchpin in a story with too many 1662 01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:58.439 disparate storylines, and it just doesn't come together. It doesn't 1663 01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:02.840 gel well together. And I guess considering the character is 1664 01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:07.520 as nuts kind of quirky as she is, and how 1665 01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:10.079 kind of insane the plot is. I guess they figured 1666 01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:12.520 all of this is happening in such a breakneck pace 1667 01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:15.239 that they're kind of expecting you not to ask too 1668 01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:19.439 many questions. I mean, that's a lot of episodes. Yeah, 1669 01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:21.520 that's them of a lot of episodes though, and it's 1670 01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:22.920 you know, it's what you do when you love a 1671 01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:23.399 show like this. 1672 01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:25.840 I'm going to say that that her parents took her 1673 01:17:25.880 --> 01:17:27.840 son to a safe place that her ex does not 1674 01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:28.239 know where. 1675 01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:28.520 That is. 1676 01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:30.800 That's what we're gonna make my assumption. Cabin in the woods, 1677 01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:32.760 Cabin in the woods, say there you go, Nothing bad 1678 01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:34.119 ever happens at a cabin in the woods. 1679 01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:34.399 Nope. 1680 01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:36.760 But it's not the inn that they it's not the 1681 01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:39.399 the bed and breakfast that they all went to last season, 1682 01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.359 the McDougall in, Yeah, that's where they ended up going. 1683 01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:46.000 I will say this episode has a little bit of 1684 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.359 a theme going on to it about like relationships and stuff, 1685 01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:51.239 because like obviously it's like the Oliver Chloe things going 1686 01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:56.520 on for Oliver, and you know, without Shaira and Carcter Hall, 1687 01:17:56.560 --> 01:17:58.239 we didn't really I keep I can't believe we keep 1688 01:17:58.319 --> 01:18:00.840 I mean, forgetting what Hawkman's name is. I guess it 1689 01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:01.239 early is. 1690 01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:06.560 Cartar, It's Carter, but like it's like yeah, it's like 1691 01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:08.600 it's like how you pronounce it, like trying to break 1692 01:18:08.680 --> 01:18:08.920 it up. 1693 01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:11.079 Oh man, this is what we get the reason Shaiir 1694 01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:12.920 we know from Justice League the cartoon because I say 1695 01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:15.000 it all the time, but like, there wasn't Jean Jones. 1696 01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:19.279 Yeah, it's yeah, exactly is Jean. And then he's like John. 1697 01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:22.079 Hawkman and hawk Girl. They have their thing going on. 1698 01:18:22.399 --> 01:18:24.920 And then Clark's here talking because cast's talking about relationships. 1699 01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.600 Clark's talking about you know, him and Lois and you know, 1700 01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:30.720 he's like, you find someone, it feels right, but then 1701 01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:32.239 it can feel wrong because you're trying to do something 1702 01:18:32.239 --> 01:18:33.920 for other people. I don't know. They're kind of opening 1703 01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:35.720 up to each other now and it's and it's good. 1704 01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:37.760 It's it's a good bonding moment between them. 1705 01:18:38.079 --> 01:18:40.439 I like it. Yeah, they go very big on The 1706 01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:44.239 relationship theme is very heavy in this, which is what 1707 01:18:44.439 --> 01:18:48.479 makes the Suicide Squad stuff feel very It feels like 1708 01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:51.399 it's being almost jammed into this because you're right, just 1709 01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:54.760 about every other set of characters has something to discuss. 1710 01:18:55.680 --> 01:19:01.079 Oliver and Tess are obviously talking about Oliver and Chloe 1711 01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:05.239 and Oliver and Tests themselves already have a connective tissue 1712 01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:09.359 a former relationship. Then you have Clark and Lewis, you 1713 01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:12.359 have Lois and Carter talking about their significant others. And 1714 01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:14.880 then there's of course a lot of like you know, 1715 01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:18.119 wearing a certain face for certain things, lying by omission 1716 01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:21.079 for protection's sake. There's a there's a lot of that 1717 01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:24.399 going through, and it feels a lot more smooth when 1718 01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:27.840 you're not focusing on the suicide squad stuff. I feel 1719 01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:29.920 like they they they kind of just wanted to jam 1720 01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:32.640 these these things together, and that's why it feels a 1721 01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:35.520 little off like this. You know, there's we have all 1722 01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:39.600 these discussions of relationships, and then you have like Rick Flagg, 1723 01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:43.600 you know, Quasi flirting with Oliver in their little torture 1724 01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:46.199 session at the very ends, like something, oh you were 1725 01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:49.039 you were the only one I couldn't break. I'm like okay, 1726 01:19:49.439 --> 01:19:51.399 and there's chains on the floor and all that. I'm 1727 01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:54.000 like this, this this is starting to get a little weird, 1728 01:19:55.479 --> 01:19:55.600 you know. 1729 01:19:55.720 --> 01:19:58.199 I gotta say it didn't strike with the rewatching this, 1730 01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:00.720 but you know, yeah, there was the low list theury 1731 01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:02.800 C H L O. I s where Chloe was gonna 1732 01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:05.239 come Lois Lane right in course of the show, and 1733 01:20:05.319 --> 01:20:07.000 I when the show was on, I was a thousand 1734 01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:09.039 per cent behind that theory. And I still feel like 1735 01:20:09.039 --> 01:20:11.359 the other should have done that or maybe never had 1736 01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:13.479 Chloe on the show at this point, seeing how the 1737 01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:15.159 character ended up, right, you know what I'm saying, like 1738 01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:17.119 they just anyway, they didn't know what to do with her. 1739 01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:17.319 Eh. 1740 01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:20.159 But right here, right here, in this very episode and 1741 01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:22.279 this very scene we're talking about, we have Cat Grant 1742 01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:24.319 saying now I have to hide behind the power of 1743 01:20:24.359 --> 01:20:28.479 the pin and a new name, making sure nobody knows 1744 01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:31.319 who's behind the words unprinting. I'm like, there it is there. 1745 01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:34.399 It is in a show where we got Henry James Olsen. 1746 01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:39.760 They can love doing that. Yeah anyway, Yeah, and there, 1747 01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:41.279 I mean there was that theory for a while that 1748 01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:43.159 Lionel was gonna end up being lex. 1749 01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:44.239 Remember he shaved his head. 1750 01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:47.920 His head got shaved. That's it, I Luthor, that's it. 1751 01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:51.760 So you have to do the prosecution rests case closed absolutely, 1752 01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:55.319 But Clark, hey, he he points out the Cat grant, Hey, 1753 01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:57.439 what you're doing is just like what the Vigilanes are doing, 1754 01:20:57.560 --> 01:20:59.199 and that kind of like hits hers like oh wow, 1755 01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:02.079 so you go now, but she is still kind of 1756 01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:03.760 anti Vigilanti the rest of the season, and she is 1757 01:21:03.800 --> 01:21:04.199 I recall. 1758 01:21:04.359 --> 01:21:07.680 So yeah, anyway, I forgot she's in the rest of 1759 01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:10.279 the season. To be honest with you, I haven't. I 1760 01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:12.319 haven't continued to Supergirl yet. 1761 01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:16.479 There's she's in four episodes of season ten. 1762 01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:18.560 Four okay, because I remember there's some point where she 1763 01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:19.960 has a confrontation with Lois. 1764 01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:22.439 I think that's in the Booster Gold episode. 1765 01:21:24.319 --> 01:21:26.079 Yeah, I watched that one last year and for some 1766 01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:26.680 of the don't. 1767 01:21:26.720 --> 01:21:28.520 I know she's in it because she's like, wants to 1768 01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:30.880 be in she wants to be Booster Gold and he's like, yeah, 1769 01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:34.399 I'm gonna wait a little lane. So but this is 1770 01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:35.520 a good line for her, and I think this is 1771 01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:38.640 a good line for parents everywhere, single moms as well. Right, 1772 01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:41.039 you know, the world but never see me as some 1773 01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:45.920 big hero. But by Sonwell, oh my god, maybe Sunday 1774 01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:47.359 by son Well. I'm like, yeah, it's a good message. 1775 01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:50.800 You know, she's a goofy person, she's she's she can't. 1776 01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:53.359 She's kind of annoyed to people, but she's doing this 1777 01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:55.239 first sun and I really respect that that resonated with me. 1778 01:21:55.399 --> 01:21:58.960 So even the most irritating people have had some good 1779 01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:00.359 qualities exactly. 1780 01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:03.600 So, uh Clark is a text from test and he's 1781 01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:07.279 gonna run off, and uh Cat's like, hey, whe where 1782 01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:09.239 are you going? Car's like, no, stay here, You'll be safe. 1783 01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:09.399 Now. 1784 01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:12.279 She looks over to the coat rack of the talent 1785 01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:15.159 and she sees this trench coat and this wig. Does 1786 01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:17.000 this count as Lois's costume closet? 1787 01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:17.479 My friends? 1788 01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:20.720 I guess that's the only reason why that's there, right. 1789 01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:23.399 Because Chloy didn't wear it for anything, Like I always 1790 01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:26.239 forget who's in and out of the apartment, you know, 1791 01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:27.960 But Chloe didn't wear it. 1792 01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:31.359 And but that awful black that the awful black wig 1793 01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:35.600 is a I mean, I guess, God that that wig 1794 01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:37.560 looks like that. It looks like Courtney Cox's hair and 1795 01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:41.840 screamed three. So yeah, it was. It's brutal, and it 1796 01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:43.800 looks awful on her too. I mean, yeah, I guess, 1797 01:22:43.840 --> 01:22:46.199 But I don't recall seeing this hair in the past. 1798 01:22:46.239 --> 01:22:50.840 But considering all the all of the disguises, that she's accumulated. 1799 01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:53.079 I wouldn't be surprised if she decided, what if I 1800 01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:56.039 want to have the worst hair I've ever had? Imaginable. 1801 01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:57.319 I leave it to the guests, but it sounds like 1802 01:22:57.319 --> 01:22:59.600 we're in alignment. We're calling that Lewis's costing closets, so 1803 01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:01.920 so we're like, what is she gonna do with that? 1804 01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:04.560 But we'll find out shortly. Now we cut back to Africa, 1805 01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:07.880 and I like the look. It's two people sitting in 1806 01:23:07.960 --> 01:23:10.720 a tent drinking, but the direction's pretty cool. I got 1807 01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:13.079 a little three sixty camera around him, bring some dynamic 1808 01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:17.039 stuff to Carter and leis here and she's talking about like, hey, 1809 01:23:17.199 --> 01:23:18.720 like what if are you supposed to make his life 1810 01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:21.520 easier or harder? And you know, like and then she 1811 01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:24.880 guesses that like, oh, they sent you here to make 1812 01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:27.960 sure I was safe, huh and uh. He's like, yeah, 1813 01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:30.840 he worries about you. You know, they don't know that 1814 01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:33.119 you know, he has his powers and anyway, it's this 1815 01:23:33.199 --> 01:23:34.640 is a good scene between them, right and then and 1816 01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:38.840 then we slowly get into the Carter's talking about Shira, 1817 01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:42.840 right and he then he he's waxing poetic about how 1818 01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:44.960 like they would find each other and all this sort 1819 01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:47.760 of thing. It's some good romantic stuff. But then we 1820 01:23:48.279 --> 01:23:50.399 we see his point of view and we see Lois 1821 01:23:50.479 --> 01:23:51.840 and this is the only time we see hawk Girl 1822 01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:56.119 on the Smallville, right we see her turn into Shiira, 1823 01:23:57.479 --> 01:24:01.520 and then Carter goes and gives her a kiss. And 1824 01:24:01.560 --> 01:24:03.439 I was like, you know what, I've totally kind of 1825 01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:05.279 forgot about this aspect because shame. 1826 01:24:05.359 --> 01:24:06.640 I totally forgot about that too. 1827 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:07.920 I did it because I hate it. 1828 01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:10.359 I laughed so much. Oh, I hate it too, but 1829 01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:13.239 I laugh so much about how Lois like dates or 1830 01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:15.520 kisses every single Justice League member on this show, and 1831 01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:19.199 I forgot Hawkman is on the list. So yeah, Tyler, 1832 01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:22.760 tell us your feelings about I just. 1833 01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:26.199 I get how he's caught up and he sees Shaira, 1834 01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:29.439 but I just didn't like it, like because I mean, 1835 01:24:29.439 --> 01:24:31.279 we already have to wrestle with Oh, she dated all 1836 01:24:31.319 --> 01:24:34.520 of her, she dated, she tried to date Ac, and 1837 01:24:34.600 --> 01:24:37.239 now Hawkman's making a move on her. I just would 1838 01:24:37.239 --> 01:24:39.479 have preferred if it was more like because what. 1839 01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:40.119 It is like. 1840 01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:43.039 As we find out, he says later in the episode 1841 01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:45.439 that when he has these kind of omens or premonitions. 1842 01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:47.880 It means that his death is coming soon and that 1843 01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:50.600 he'll soon join her in the afterlife. I just would 1844 01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:53.399 have preferred that kind of thing where he sees her 1845 01:24:54.439 --> 01:24:56.039 and there could have been something from the actors who 1846 01:24:56.039 --> 01:24:59.760 played Hot Girl, like motioning her hand or like a smile, 1847 01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:02.479 and that's it, Like he's like he's looking past Lois 1848 01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:05.159 or he's looking and he sees her. I just I 1849 01:25:05.279 --> 01:25:07.760 just really think that the whole kiss thing just kind 1850 01:25:07.800 --> 01:25:10.920 of it almost tainted the scene and tainted what they 1851 01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:14.720 had built up in this camaraderie, because like he really 1852 01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:18.399 was someone that she could lean into to understand what 1853 01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:20.920 she's going through. Yeah, and I feel like it just 1854 01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:22.520 it just kind of undercut a lot of it. 1855 01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:25.119 So well then well then later like feels kind of 1856 01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:27.439 weird because he's like, I trust we're gonna keep last 1857 01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:29.279 night a secret, and I was like, yeah, I'm like 1858 01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:30.199 that sounds. 1859 01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:33.399 Wrong, Like, yeah, I didn't like the dialogue there. Yeah, 1860 01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:37.479 I was not like going full on the defense of it. 1861 01:25:37.680 --> 01:25:39.439 It was the thing that was able to get me 1862 01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:42.039 kind of through the first part of that was they've 1863 01:25:42.119 --> 01:25:44.079 they've been drinking, you know, the two of them are 1864 01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:46.920 having they're drinking, They're being very vulnerable. They're talking about 1865 01:25:47.239 --> 01:25:49.159 the love of their lives. They're talking about this and that, 1866 01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:51.479 and when you're drunk. The fact that they were able 1867 01:25:51.560 --> 01:25:53.600 to kind of the fact that they will talk about 1868 01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:55.399 that deep stuff and not get you know, and not 1869 01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:58.439 get overly emotional. I get the feeling that it was 1870 01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:01.039 And I'm not really don't want this to sound like 1871 01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:04.000 he was drunk, so it's okay, because you know they were. 1872 01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:06.800 They were both very inebriated. He and he was talking 1873 01:26:06.880 --> 01:26:08.880 on the love of his life, and I think it 1874 01:26:09.039 --> 01:26:12.479 was basically a hallucination. They really don't feel like it 1875 01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:18.800 was him, you know, going after Lois per se because I, yeah, 1876 01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:22.279 it wasn't necessary. I think that they could have done 1877 01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:25.319 something a little maybe even a little funnier, like his 1878 01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:27.439 eyes start to kind of glaze like he's about to 1879 01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:28.960 pass out and he leans for kids, and then she 1880 01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:31.239 just gives him a well right across the face and 1881 01:26:31.399 --> 01:26:33.880 you know it says, wake up something like that instead 1882 01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:36.159 of because I agree like they they kind of had 1883 01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:39.279 her work through too many members of the Justice League, 1884 01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:42.159 and I did, like, I really liked their camaraderie. They 1885 01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:44.079 almost felt like they were gearing up for a buddy 1886 01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:50.479 cop story with having their Marion and Bellock drinking in 1887 01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:54.960 the tent. Yeah exactly. 1888 01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:57.720 I like the idea that his love for Shaira is 1889 01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.800 so strong that no, like, even through drinking and everything, 1890 01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:02.000 he would know that's not her. 1891 01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:03.680 They he would certainly hope, so. 1892 01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:06.159 You know, and like he wouldn't even have the impulse, 1893 01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:08.239 he would just like. I like the idea that he 1894 01:27:08.319 --> 01:27:11.399 sees her and he knows what's coming, and it's kind 1895 01:27:11.439 --> 01:27:15.079 of I would have liked her, honestly. I would have 1896 01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:18.720 liked that he sees Shaira and he kind of like 1897 01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:21.479 some sort of facial expression or something like maybe he 1898 01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:23.680 closes his eyes and kind of shakes in and takes 1899 01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:27.279 a drink, and he doesn't tell Lois that when this happens, 1900 01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:29.479 he knows he's gonna die, so we as the audience 1901 01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:31.439 can interpret it as like some sort of like an 1902 01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:35.520 omen or a calling or something like that's gonna happen, 1903 01:27:36.039 --> 01:27:38.800 because then, of course, you know, later on things do happen. 1904 01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:41.600 But yeah, I just I just think it could have 1905 01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:44.119 been done better. It's my one knock, like real big knock. 1906 01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:47.319 On the episode they dangle Lois too much as they 1907 01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:50.560 they dangle her too much as like as a prize 1908 01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:54.079 sometimes and it's like everybody and everybody's trying to get 1909 01:27:54.119 --> 01:27:56.520 lowist and all that. It's like, you know, she portrays 1910 01:27:57.079 --> 01:28:00.359 she's desirable all on her own. It's not necessary for 1911 01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:02.960 everyone around for all these characters to remind us that 1912 01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:07.199 she's desirable. You don't need every superhero to try and 1913 01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:11.039 woo her and date her and you know, come on 1914 01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:13.920 to her like that. It's it's not necessary. I think 1915 01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:16.479 it's just one of those things that originally they did 1916 01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:19.920 that so often because you know, they were leaning heavier 1917 01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:23.640 into the CW drama here, it just kind of felt 1918 01:28:23.680 --> 01:28:25.239 like it was just kind of thrown in there for 1919 01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:27.119 the hell of it. It wasn't really necessary. 1920 01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:30.159 Yeah, Honestly, my favorite part of the whole scene is 1921 01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:32.319 right before that, because he's telling a super romantic story 1922 01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:34.199 about an evil man killed us both and like lo 1923 01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:37.319 was a vental Savage, was it, Curtis Knox. No, But 1924 01:28:37.399 --> 01:28:39.800 they don't tie the together here in this in this 1925 01:28:39.880 --> 01:28:43.399 year we have not on Earth one sixty seven. But 1926 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:46.239 he tells a super romantic story about how their their 1927 01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:48.279 love was so strong they found each other through attorney 1928 01:28:48.319 --> 01:28:52.399 and Lows is like, that's a terrible story. That's pretty 1929 01:28:52.399 --> 01:28:53.119 fad that. 1930 01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:54.159 Yeah, I like it. 1931 01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:57.199 And then of course when he kiss her and she's 1932 01:28:57.239 --> 01:28:58.399 like trying to get in the next thing, you'll be 1933 01:28:58.439 --> 01:28:58.920 kissing as. 1934 01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:01.239 My fist, I was like, goodf you was yeah, yeah, 1935 01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:02.720 I'm glad that they had that in there. 1936 01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:03.159 Yeah. 1937 01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:06.840 She walks off and he's like, but, like we all said, 1938 01:29:07.239 --> 01:29:10.159 it's because he's truly seeing his visions his wife. It's like, okay, 1939 01:29:10.279 --> 01:29:12.640 but like but it's just the the overall optics and 1940 01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:14.199 vibe of him. But it's like, yeah, we could have 1941 01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:15.840 done Dicky, we could have done without. 1942 01:29:16.279 --> 01:29:18.560 Yeah, I would have cut it like in post like 1943 01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:19.720 how like you know what I'm saying. 1944 01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:21.159 Like you could have cut around that, But then you 1945 01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:23.319 had the follow up scene we'll talk about last story now, 1946 01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:25.000 which is awesome. I really don't like. 1947 01:29:25.079 --> 01:29:28.119 I don't like that even more so anyway, it's like sending, hey, hey, buddy, 1948 01:29:28.119 --> 01:29:29.840 you're my best pal. Will you go check on my 1949 01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:31.920 girl for me? Make sure? She said sure, bro, then 1950 01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:33.920 you come back. Yeah, bro, I kissed her, But what. 1951 01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:38.760 How does you know? You're just like, yeah, I think 1952 01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:40.439 the reason why he said he's going to die soon. 1953 01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:44.039 Is if Clark found out, he certainly would. 1954 01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:47.920 So we cut to the Daily Planet and it's, uh, 1955 01:29:48.119 --> 01:29:51.560 Clark are writing because Tess had texted him. He's like, hey, yeah, 1956 01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:54.239 thanks for doing that. Test is like, I don't want 1957 01:29:54.279 --> 01:29:56.000 your things, I want your trust, and he's like, eh, 1958 01:29:56.439 --> 01:29:59.199 like he's still it's I agree with him, like I do. 1959 01:29:59.479 --> 01:30:02.000 Like how she's not just immediately, you know, and that's 1960 01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:04.079 also kind of make sure tragic character they don't like. Look, 1961 01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:07.039 eventually she's at the bachelorette party and they're watching Dancing 1962 01:30:07.079 --> 01:30:10.199 Elvis and they're watching home video. Yeah, hooking up with 1963 01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:12.720 doctor Hamilton, right, talk about there must be two second 1964 01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:15.880 doctor Hamilton. Uh, that's why they called him doctor Emil 1965 01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:16.600 most of the time. 1966 01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:21.439 Doctor. Like he's like, it's like what it's like what 1967 01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:24.119 a kid calls their their pediatrician doctor. 1968 01:30:24.880 --> 01:30:25.039 Yeah. 1969 01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:26.800 Yeah, they don't call them by their last name. They 1970 01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:27.920 called them by their first name. 1971 01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:33.159 So funny. It's yeah, really entitle of them. Conductor. 1972 01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:35.039 We're going to doctor Emil today. 1973 01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:39.319 Tessa, you know, had some lab work done and she 1974 01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:43.039 she turns around her CSI bullet recreation and it expands 1975 01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:45.520 from what we thought was Cat Grant And they pull 1976 01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:52.439 out the bullet and the letters say Clark Kent. The 1977 01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:55.960 target is me yep, so I guess our assass was 1978 01:30:56.000 --> 01:30:58.680 themver after Hello Kitty. That's a pretty funny line because 1979 01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:03.199 Test is picking up those those kinds of dialogue. So, 1980 01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:05.199 but they're trying to figure out, like what's the point 1981 01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:09.239 of this, like if they're so yeah, like yeah, so yeah, 1982 01:31:09.720 --> 01:31:11.960 but they determine like, okay, well maybe they didn't know 1983 01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:13.720 that you were bulletproof, and now he does what are 1984 01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:15.439 they gonna do? This guy never gives up, that's his 1985 01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:17.920 m O. And so like, well, if they know that 1986 01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:20.000 you're faster than bully, it's the only place to aim 1987 01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:24.800 is that someone he knows you'll save. It's like, okay, 1988 01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:26.439 but why did he blow up Cat Grant's car? 1989 01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:31.880 Like there's other people to choose other than her. She's 1990 01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:34.800 not the one. She's not she's not the lynch pin there, 1991 01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:36.640 She's not the one I would be like, now that's 1992 01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:39.439 the one that's really gonna lure him out of the shadows. 1993 01:31:39.560 --> 01:31:41.960 Right, Well, Oas is gone and Chloe's gone, and Lana's gone, 1994 01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:43.760 I mean who else is there? Right? His parents are gone? 1995 01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:46.600 So uh, the new character we just introduced this episode 1996 01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:49.760 is a logical choice. But apparently test lowjacked cat because 1997 01:31:49.880 --> 01:31:51.520 Clark's I gotta get back to small Ville and chuck 1998 01:31:51.560 --> 01:31:53.399 on her and test is like, it's too late. Our 1999 01:31:53.479 --> 01:31:55.439 kitten reporters on the move, and we see this little 2000 01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:59.399 cat grant like name tag moving to the Tropolis bus station, 2001 01:31:59.720 --> 01:32:03.560 not the Smallville bus station, Metropolis bus station. So did 2002 01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:07.279 she how did she get there? Her car got blown up? 2003 01:32:07.359 --> 01:32:09.680 She's in Smallville, which is three hours away, but she's 2004 01:32:09.720 --> 01:32:10.760 in the Metropolis bus station. 2005 01:32:10.840 --> 01:32:15.039 Guys, well it's just outside the city. So was. 2006 01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:18.560 It not night just then? And now it's day? 2007 01:32:18.680 --> 01:32:18.800 When? 2008 01:32:19.359 --> 01:32:20.399 Yeah, it was night? 2009 01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:23.399 What day is it? What time is it? Tyler helped me. 2010 01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:27.920 They walked to Metropolis. They they walked in there. You 2011 01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:29.960 go that it only took it. It only took a 2012 01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:30.840 couple of days with them. 2013 01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:33.279 Yeah, it was night when he left her and told 2014 01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:35.159 her to stay and then at the bus stations during 2015 01:32:35.239 --> 01:32:35.479 the day. 2016 01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:38.359 But then we could have this cool high noon showdown 2017 01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:42.319 with dead shot. Though I let you better as a blonde. 2018 01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:44.479 It would have worked better if they had done it 2019 01:32:44.520 --> 01:32:46.399 like that sunrise type thing, like she's getting on the 2020 01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:48.479 bus at sunrise, you have that sunrise and you have 2021 01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:50.960 the cowboy walking out spurs and all, I. 2022 01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:53.479 Think, what they tried to do here, Tyler. But then 2023 01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:57.079 it just it's so weird that he's this cowboy cosplayer, 2024 01:32:57.159 --> 01:32:58.720 because like it was weird enough and he was on 2025 01:32:58.840 --> 01:33:01.279 his own, but now he just like in a normal environment. 2026 01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:02.640 It's like if you just walk through an airport and 2027 01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:04.319 there's a dude dressed up as a Viking, I'm like, 2028 01:33:04.359 --> 01:33:05.640 what are you doing? It's so strange. 2029 01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:09.960 The Western motif is ridiculous, especially in like, you know, 2030 01:33:11.039 --> 01:33:13.319 like Tyler said, like if you were to at least 2031 01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:17.000 like kind of film it in a way that sort 2032 01:33:17.039 --> 01:33:19.840 of gives credence to him even dressing up like this 2033 01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:23.399 first place, doing a you know, a high noon or 2034 01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:26.720 something like that, by just playing into it. But they 2035 01:33:26.760 --> 01:33:28.640 don't play into it. It's just this is the guy's 2036 01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:30.199 shtick and he does not care. 2037 01:33:31.359 --> 01:33:32.840 She pleads with him about It's like, hey, I have 2038 01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:35.199 a son. He's two years old. Is that Matt? He'll 2039 01:33:35.279 --> 01:33:36.960 move on three or four years from now. He wanted 2040 01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:38.600 to remember your face. I was like, what do we 2041 01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:40.760 talk of? Dead shot? He's got kids, that's his whole thing, 2042 01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:41.159 and you just. 2043 01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:42.600 Thought, yeah, he should have been like that should have 2044 01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:44.560 been his weak spot, or for you would have said then, 2045 01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:47.079 like it ain't really about you, lady. You know what 2046 01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:48.039 I'm saying, Like. 2047 01:33:48.359 --> 01:33:50.840 Yeah, yeah, it should. It could have given him pause, 2048 01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:53.960 even if that was just a little bit for the character, 2049 01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:56.720 it could have made him stop for a second, and 2050 01:33:56.920 --> 01:33:59.680 for those who know the character, you'd understand why or 2051 01:33:59.720 --> 01:34:03.159 if forbid, they actually did their character work and showed 2052 01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:05.199 that that was one of his motivations. That could have 2053 01:34:05.199 --> 01:34:06.199 been an interesting moment. 2054 01:34:06.479 --> 01:34:08.560 Well, what a weird statement here. He's like, people about 2055 01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:11.800 to die always think that the special loved one won't 2056 01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:14.520 be able to go on without them, but they always do. 2057 01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:17.079 And it's like wow, Like what he's trying to speak 2058 01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:19.319 harsh truth to Cat Grant, Like what do we even 2059 01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:23.199 in a better constructed episode? This is like Lois and 2060 01:34:23.279 --> 01:34:24.640 like Clark and Hurt kind of on the rocks, and 2061 01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:26.600 this kind of helps reinforce their relationship. And right, what 2062 01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:29.920 I'm saying like, but this is this is nothing like 2063 01:34:30.199 --> 01:34:32.000 but but in Cat Grant's like I realized that some 2064 01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:35.560 people are just born dead. I'm like, well, because he's 2065 01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:36.279 dead shot. 2066 01:34:38.439 --> 01:34:42.319 Yeah, yeah, the whole, like the villains doing the whole? 2067 01:34:42.720 --> 01:34:44.680 Do you want to know what the way people are 2068 01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:48.560 before they died? It's so overdone. I think everyone wants 2069 01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:50.840 to do the Heath Ledger joker, you know, do you 2070 01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:53.319 want to know which of them were cowards? You know? 2071 01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:55.479 Like I feel like so many villains love doing the 2072 01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:57.920 do you know why? You know? In their last moments, 2073 01:34:58.000 --> 01:34:59.800 in their last seconds and all that that kind of 2074 01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.520 extra stuff. So many so many writers think that they're 2075 01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:06.600 writing something really really sharp for a villain to say 2076 01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:09.880 about people in their last moments, and a lot of 2077 01:35:09.960 --> 01:35:12.600 times it just comes off as, you know, trying to 2078 01:35:12.680 --> 01:35:14.760 write something cool for a bad guy to say, as 2079 01:35:14.800 --> 01:35:17.560 opposed to it actually having any sort of weight or meaning. 2080 01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:20.720 And then his whole plan was to chase her into 2081 01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:30.079 this I don't know alleyway, and then Clark would catch 2082 01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:31.880 up and get hit by Like I just like, it's 2083 01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:33.479 this very elaborate plan, right. 2084 01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:36.960 It feels like two episodes smashed together, Like, yeah, has 2085 01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:39.960 it just been a suicide squad based episode? You would 2086 01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:41.760 have done a lot more character work and a lot 2087 01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:44.199 more to really build this up, you know. I think 2088 01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:45.960 it was cool that he got her where he wanted her. 2089 01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:48.119 That's kind of neat. But then the fact that he 2090 01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:50.600 said Clark's gonna happen to show up to save her 2091 01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:53.399 there when you don't even know if Clark would find 2092 01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:54.079 her in time. 2093 01:35:54.760 --> 01:35:56.279 Well, like how would he know that she was going 2094 01:35:56.319 --> 01:35:57.840 to be this bus station? Anyway, This is like a 2095 01:35:57.880 --> 01:36:00.319 spur of the moment's decision. You know, he's got this 2096 01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:03.840 whole like gun set up. He's he's it's kind of lame, 2097 01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:05.520 se he dead shot. He's like a cell phone to 2098 01:36:05.680 --> 01:36:09.720 like launch a other gun. That's O. Don't Yeah, it's 2099 01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:13.359 kind of lamb, But hey, I really liked Clark super 2100 01:36:13.399 --> 01:36:15.880 speeding up to him and punching him. This is like, 2101 01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:19.039 this is like straight up George Reeves action here when 2102 01:36:19.079 --> 01:36:21.279 the last time he Superman punched normal people like this 2103 01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:21.880 in the face. 2104 01:36:22.600 --> 01:36:23.319 Yeah, that's what I said. 2105 01:36:23.319 --> 01:36:25.239 I was like, he punched him. I'm like, that's cool. 2106 01:36:25.680 --> 01:36:29.520 He's gonna pull back and you know, not do anything physical. 2107 01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.279 You know, it's usually like holding them up by one 2108 01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:35.760 hand to be threatening or you know, knocking them out 2109 01:36:35.800 --> 01:36:37.640 of the way, and it's like you know, during super 2110 01:36:37.720 --> 01:36:39.279 Speed in a way that they won't be able to 2111 01:36:39.359 --> 01:36:43.039 see him but yeah, seeing seeing Tom just wail on 2112 01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:45.359 somebody's great because he's a big guy. So when you 2113 01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:48.239 see him like really deck somebody across the face, he 2114 01:36:48.319 --> 01:36:49.399 looks like a superhero. 2115 01:36:50.520 --> 01:36:52.119 Well, and I love the shop where he's like running 2116 01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:54.079 and the bullets there. I love whenever Smubble does this 2117 01:36:54.159 --> 01:36:56.399 like faster than the speeding bullet and the technology was 2118 01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:58.399 finally here. Right, So he's running and then he glances 2119 01:36:58.439 --> 01:37:00.600 his shoulder and he sees it full and he reaches 2120 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:02.279 out in front of it and he catches it, and 2121 01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:05.600 so that's badass. And then yes, he races up the cat, 2122 01:37:06.079 --> 01:37:07.760 puts her on the ground, acting like that, oh she 2123 01:37:07.880 --> 01:37:09.840 got shot, but he, you know, was just there to 2124 01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:12.399 help her, and then puts the bullet on her bulletproof vest. 2125 01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:15.119 Like that's that's great. It was very clever and cute. 2126 01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:17.199 Yeah she's like, oh, I have a saved by my 2127 01:37:17.199 --> 01:37:18.079 bulletproof vest. 2128 01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:20.359 Yeah. I like the idea that it was sort of 2129 01:37:20.479 --> 01:37:22.680 like normally on your average show, if somebody gets shot, 2130 01:37:22.760 --> 01:37:24.560 oh no, they're you know, they're dead. Then they get 2131 01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:26.960 up and pull the shirt open and it's the and 2132 01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:29.720 it's Kevlaar underneath. But in this I like how the 2133 01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:33.840 bulletproovest probably was not going to save her, so so 2134 01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:37.199 for her the usual twist ending of I had a 2135 01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:40.079 vest the whole time, you know, that's what saved the day. 2136 01:37:40.119 --> 01:37:42.680 But in actuality, Clark was just smart enough to be like, 2137 01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:44.560 this will be the fastest way for her not to 2138 01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:46.680 think that anything else happened. 2139 01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:50.920 Up save Yeah, for sure. And this is like it's 2140 01:37:50.960 --> 01:37:52.680 a cute scene between the two of them. She's like, oh, 2141 01:37:52.720 --> 01:37:54.920 that was so brave. And I don't know, like Kat 2142 01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:57.680 Grant traditionally has like a crush on Clark Kin. I 2143 01:37:57.680 --> 01:37:59.319 don't know if they ever really do that that much 2144 01:37:59.399 --> 01:37:59.880 on the show. 2145 01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:03.319 Yeah, Lowis and Clark, she had a crush on everybody. 2146 01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:07.880 Yeah, yes she did. Like you know, that's about real 2147 01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:11.039 flesh and blood heroes like you, Clark, and you're my hero. 2148 01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:15.000 And they inspire people to stand out into the light, right, Yeah. 2149 01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:18.479 I mean that's another thing. I feel like they definitely 2150 01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:20.840 felt like there's a lot of thematic stuff that they're 2151 01:38:20.880 --> 01:38:23.199 they're they're trying to pack in here, but I think 2152 01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:26.239 it's it's the convoluted storytelling that kind of lets it 2153 01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:29.199 down a bit. But yeah, that's there are themes that 2154 01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:31.119 they're just sort of like at the very end of something, 2155 01:38:31.159 --> 01:38:32.720 they'll be like, well, this is what this was about, 2156 01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:34.560 just to remind you if you weren't, if you weren't 2157 01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:35.279 following along. 2158 01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:37.479 Well, it's like a I don't know if you guys 2159 01:38:37.600 --> 01:38:39.399 know about the Godzilla movies. 2160 01:38:39.239 --> 01:38:41.520 Right, but oh have you have you ever heard of 2161 01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:46.239 my son? Oh yeah, the Godzilla Fan got's own Godzilla podcast? 2162 01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:51.840 Oh really sent like so like obviously Godzilla started was 2163 01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:54.760 this metaphor for nuclear energy and war and all the 2164 01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:56.239 sort of thing, and it's a lot of anything. Godzilla 2165 01:38:56.279 --> 01:38:58.800 minus one is really brought that back, and yeah, life 2166 01:38:58.840 --> 01:39:00.560 while Godzilla Fan I've seen all the I think all 2167 01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:02.399 Zilla minus one is the greatest gods of the movie. 2168 01:39:02.479 --> 01:39:04.640 Like legit, I'm one of those people who's like the 2169 01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:06.600 newest thing is the best thing. It really, it's true 2170 01:39:06.640 --> 01:39:09.439 this time. It's true this time. And that's not a 2171 01:39:09.479 --> 01:39:10.840 slight thing of the other ones. I'm just saying, like 2172 01:39:10.920 --> 01:39:13.279 this is perfection. My point is that a lot of 2173 01:39:13.319 --> 01:39:15.520 those old movies, like when they is the series went 2174 01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:17.880 along the movie series like they would kind of like 2175 01:39:18.119 --> 01:39:20.319 lose the message, but the end of the end, they'd 2176 01:39:20.359 --> 01:39:22.159 be like a group of people watching this island blow up, 2177 01:39:22.640 --> 01:39:24.880 and they're like, well, that just goes to show you that, 2178 01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:26.760 you know, we all must work together to stop a 2179 01:39:26.840 --> 01:39:31.119 nuclear catastrophe in the world today. I'm like, guys, you 2180 01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:33.640 can't just wedge that into the end. And you're absolutely right, 2181 01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:35.560 John that that really does feel like what they're doing here, 2182 01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:37.560 because you're talking about the light and the darkness. I'm like, hey, 2183 01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:40.000 that's dark side stuff, and that's your whole like plot, 2184 01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:42.039 like you gotta store the light and you just speak 2185 01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:45.039 extinguished and they're trying to I mean, credit to them 2186 01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:46.520 for trying to set it up here, but doesn't fit 2187 01:39:46.640 --> 01:39:49.279 here at all. So this episode is just a big 2188 01:39:49.439 --> 01:39:51.960 missmash of all kinds of stuff to set up this season. 2189 01:39:52.119 --> 01:39:54.439 So it's an unenviable task, you know, it's. 2190 01:39:54.319 --> 01:39:58.199 Exit to do that. The second episode of the second 2191 01:39:58.239 --> 01:40:01.479 episode of any series is rough, especially if you have 2192 01:40:01.560 --> 01:40:05.479 a big season premiere, and especially if it's your final season, 2193 01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:08.880 because I mean, The X Files is something I always 2194 01:40:08.920 --> 01:40:10.920 think of because they would always start their seasons with 2195 01:40:11.039 --> 01:40:13.359 a banger. They would always start their seasons with like 2196 01:40:13.399 --> 01:40:16.039 it's appointment television, you got to see it, And then 2197 01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:18.399 the second episode it was always interesting. It would either 2198 01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:20.920 be something that would blow your mind, it would be 2199 01:40:21.119 --> 01:40:22.840 you know, a one off, it would you know, it'd 2200 01:40:22.880 --> 01:40:26.199 be something really rich and exciting, and then sometimes it 2201 01:40:26.199 --> 01:40:28.399 would fall a little flat and it would deflate it 2202 01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:31.720 a little bit. And so with with Smallville, I feel 2203 01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:33.600 like this was the last season. They wanted to get 2204 01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:37.359 a lot of things up and running, and they and 2205 01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:40.800 this episode almost was like a sacrificial lamb. They're like, well, 2206 01:40:40.840 --> 01:40:43.159 we need to get a lot of things started, so 2207 01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:45.760 we'll just start a lot of them here and then 2208 01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:49.000 we'll iron everything out of the next you know, the 2209 01:40:49.079 --> 01:40:50.439 next half season. Yeah. 2210 01:40:50.880 --> 01:40:52.560 I mean sometimes you got to do that. That's just 2211 01:40:52.600 --> 01:40:54.680 the nature of the network TV back in the day, right, 2212 01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:56.119 and had a lot of sacrificeing. 2213 01:40:56.199 --> 01:40:57.760 Episode had a lot of pros and cons. 2214 01:40:57.800 --> 01:40:59.680 I mean people say, like, you know, serialized TV is 2215 01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:00.520 the way to go. I'm like, I don't know. I 2216 01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:02.760 kind of like how everything you know in the old days, 2217 01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:04.640 like there was a beginning, middle, and end to stories. 2218 01:41:04.720 --> 01:41:07.560 You're not watching chapter five of eight and he's like, 2219 01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:09.680 wea go a week till it's a LOWERD really appreciated man. 2220 01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:11.680 I'm like, I don't know, I'd rather like appreciate it. 2221 01:41:11.720 --> 01:41:13.680 While I'm watching it, I'm just saying, yeah. 2222 01:41:14.399 --> 01:41:16.720 Yeah, the show gets good during the last two episodes. Well, 2223 01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:17.920 I don't watch it. 2224 01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:20.680 You're gonna get through the first season and then you'll 2225 01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:21.199 really love it. 2226 01:41:22.039 --> 01:41:23.880 It's a bit of a lit's some work there. 2227 01:41:25.039 --> 01:41:26.760 But hey. At the end of the scene, after cat 2228 01:41:26.760 --> 01:41:28.800 Grant inspires Clark to make his new costume we'll talk 2229 01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:30.640 about in a second, we pan around the back of 2230 01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:33.039 Clark and we zoom into his shoulder and we do 2231 01:41:33.159 --> 01:41:36.520 the CSI zoom in and we see that his dermal 2232 01:41:36.600 --> 01:41:42.560 structure has been marked by this skull and bones logo, 2233 01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:44.640 which is is that the Suicide Squad logo? 2234 01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:47.079 I was going to ask that I don't recall. I've 2235 01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:49.760 never seen this logo outside of this episode. That's why 2236 01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:50.479 it's confused. 2237 01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:53.039 No, it's like a pirate logo or something. I was 2238 01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:56.119 just like, okay, like Checkmate had a logo, fine, but 2239 01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:58.560 the Suicide Squad, I've never seen him have a logo 2240 01:41:58.680 --> 01:41:59.800 like that. Maybe I'm mistaken. 2241 01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:03.600 Yeah, I'm I'm not that well versed in Suicide Squad 2242 01:42:03.680 --> 01:42:04.920 like old comments or anything like this. 2243 01:42:05.159 --> 01:42:08.880 Like it just so I don't know but yeah, I 2244 01:42:08.920 --> 01:42:10.800 don't think we saw it in either. I don't think 2245 01:42:10.840 --> 01:42:12.239 we saw it in either of the films. 2246 01:42:13.760 --> 01:42:16.600 I can't there was like there was a skull because 2247 01:42:16.680 --> 01:42:19.079 like so it's like that's not like this is a logo, 2248 01:42:19.239 --> 01:42:21.760 like that was just like yeah, suic Squad death right 2249 01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:22.079 there it is. 2250 01:42:22.199 --> 01:42:24.720 But this is branding. Yeah, this is branding. 2251 01:42:25.119 --> 01:42:30.640 This is Brandon as Maclis episode. But this is branding. Yes, there. 2252 01:42:32.560 --> 01:42:34.880 You got one in. I appreciate that you're at least 2253 01:42:34.960 --> 01:42:36.119 able to get one in than. 2254 01:42:38.039 --> 01:42:39.920 I really, I'm really careful about that stuff. Sometimes they 2255 01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:41.039 just the jokes right themselves. 2256 01:42:41.079 --> 01:42:44.520 So you got you gotta laugh, John, Yeah, exactly. 2257 01:42:44.159 --> 01:42:46.399 Otherwise I'm gonna cry, So I choose to laugh. 2258 01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:49.159 So it's either a comedy or a tragedy, that's right. 2259 01:42:50.199 --> 01:42:54.119 So we get this montage of the Justice leaguers who 2260 01:42:54.439 --> 01:42:56.159 we have in this episode of getting marked by the 2261 01:42:56.199 --> 01:43:00.760 Suicide Squad plastique. We see her fiery eyes give Carter 2262 01:43:00.920 --> 01:43:03.239 Hall some water and that water splashes on his face 2263 01:43:03.319 --> 01:43:06.840 and and he gets marked. I assume Alcaman and all 2264 01:43:06.880 --> 01:43:09.439 those other guys and girls are getting marked off screen 2265 01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:11.880 right now, Black Canary and everybody else. Then we have 2266 01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:14.119 this scene that we kind of referenced earlier Johnny were 2267 01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:15.800 talking about when Rick Flagg gets all kind of weird 2268 01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:18.479 with Oliver. He's like, we had a bond, we had 2269 01:43:18.520 --> 01:43:22.319 something special, Like what is what is this? 2270 01:43:22.600 --> 01:43:22.760 You know? 2271 01:43:25.119 --> 01:43:28.439 But they have this standoff they basically Rick Flagg. By 2272 01:43:28.479 --> 01:43:31.199 the way, Rick Flagg played by Ted Witsall, who was 2273 01:43:31.279 --> 01:43:35.560 in Power. Yeah, he's and he's in uh, the Suicide 2274 01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:36.960 Squad movie he plays. 2275 01:43:38.199 --> 01:43:40.079 He's in Suicide Squad. 2276 01:43:40.279 --> 01:43:44.520 Excuse me, let me rephrase he's in the first Suicide 2277 01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:46.199 Squade Squad. 2278 01:43:46.239 --> 01:43:48.000 You gotta you gotta be careful with those phrases. 2279 01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:50.439 Oh man. He apparently was in an episode of the 2280 01:43:50.479 --> 01:43:52.359 Taken TV show, and I love those Taken movies, but 2281 01:43:52.359 --> 01:43:54.119 I can never watch the show because Liam Neeson is 2282 01:43:54.119 --> 01:43:55.439 the appeal of taking. 2283 01:43:55.279 --> 01:43:57.159 Not exactly, it's the whole reason you watch it. 2284 01:43:57.239 --> 01:43:59.560 Yeah, you don't watch it for what, Let's strike those Kurt, No, no, no, 2285 01:43:59.640 --> 01:44:01.399 no no no. I want to watch Liam Neeson. I'm 2286 01:44:01.399 --> 01:44:04.159 gonna watch all his other terrible direct video movies because 2287 01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:06.479 I like him doing things that he should not be doing. 2288 01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:09.880 That's why I like the takena. 2289 01:44:09.479 --> 01:44:12.760 And Brian Mills isn't exactly Jason Bourne or James Bond. 2290 01:44:12.960 --> 01:44:14.800 You know, it doesn't have anything distinctive about it. 2291 01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:17.239 It takes him thirty seven cuts to jump over a fence, 2292 01:44:17.359 --> 01:44:24.000 but he's anyway. Ted Witzhall's Rick Flag here offers all 2293 01:44:24.039 --> 01:44:25.760 over a place on the suicide squad like, hey, we 2294 01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:29.119 can use you, right. He also says everybody thinks they're dead, 2295 01:44:29.600 --> 01:44:31.239 so like Oliver was like, oh, that's a good point. 2296 01:44:31.439 --> 01:44:33.119 And then he pulls out his crossbow to shoot him, 2297 01:44:33.119 --> 01:44:35.960 and then he gets shot by the bullet that the 2298 01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:38.159 same dead shot bullet that marks him. Like this whole 2299 01:44:38.199 --> 01:44:41.119 thing about the dead shot bullet. Who cares because all 2300 01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:44.159 the other characters are also marking their heroes, So you do. 2301 01:44:44.560 --> 01:44:47.760 Like I said, Carter was water, he literally takes the 2302 01:44:47.840 --> 01:44:50.600 water and he's like sh all slow motion. 2303 01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:52.920 Yeah, we see that little skull and crossbones. Now he's 2304 01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:54.840 got Rick Flag in the leg with his little crossbone, 2305 01:44:55.680 --> 01:44:58.520 and then you know, he starts beating him up. Where's 2306 01:45:01.399 --> 01:45:03.880 they say she took a sidin Eyede pill because she 2307 01:45:03.960 --> 01:45:06.319 did a prisoner exchange for you and her and she 2308 01:45:06.520 --> 01:45:08.960 didn't give anybody up and she didn't break and she's 2309 01:45:09.159 --> 01:45:12.520 dead and I'm like, what I'd totally forgotten. 2310 01:45:13.720 --> 01:45:17.119 Yeah, I completely forgot about that too. I just look 2311 01:45:17.159 --> 01:45:19.600 at it as he's he's just lying to get under 2312 01:45:19.680 --> 01:45:22.760 his skin. I mean, I know that they turned low 2313 01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:26.159 Chloe into a superhero him set herself, but I don't 2314 01:45:26.199 --> 01:45:29.000 recall her taking a side eye pill and then finding 2315 01:45:29.039 --> 01:45:32.359 out later on that she's somehow what happened. 2316 01:45:33.119 --> 01:45:35.880 That's why I don't understand, because like because Oliver's like 2317 01:45:36.000 --> 01:45:38.039 he finds this medicine that she took before she took 2318 01:45:38.079 --> 01:45:39.720 the cyanide, because there's excited night. 2319 01:45:41.520 --> 01:45:45.159 Yeah, on twenty four. How they how they every time 2320 01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:47.439 they kill off a character like oh, he slowed his 2321 01:45:47.600 --> 01:45:50.439 heart rate down to just the right amount when no 2322 01:45:50.560 --> 01:45:53.079 one knew he was alive. They used that so often 2323 01:45:53.560 --> 01:45:54.960 in action and science fiction. 2324 01:45:55.479 --> 01:45:57.319 I'm just so sick of like they did this with 2325 01:45:57.479 --> 01:46:00.199 Lana and Chloe multiple times, like oh they're dead. Oh 2326 01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:02.239 they fake their death. They're not, They're really dead, they're 2327 01:46:02.319 --> 01:46:03.920 out there. I'm like, I'm kind of this is played out. 2328 01:46:04.239 --> 01:46:06.640 It's played out with both of them, and I'm like, Okay, 2329 01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:09.000 here's another plot. The only the only reason we're doing 2330 01:46:09.039 --> 01:46:12.479 this because Alison Mack was not on every episode. The season, 2331 01:46:12.520 --> 01:46:13.920 we had to write her off somehow, and it just 2332 01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:16.119 feels like, Okay, once we get rid of all this 2333 01:46:16.239 --> 01:46:18.359 business out of the way, we can really get to 2334 01:46:18.439 --> 01:46:20.239 the to the season at hand. But this just feels 2335 01:46:20.319 --> 01:46:22.359 like they got to clean up all this off. 2336 01:46:22.640 --> 01:46:27.159 Just the prisoner transfer was good enough. The prisoner she's 2337 01:46:27.239 --> 01:46:29.399 been black bagged, and she's been put in a car. 2338 01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:31.680 If you put a character in a black bag and 2339 01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:33.920 in a car, you can just they have been written 2340 01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:35.920 off and you'll figure out when you bring them back. 2341 01:46:36.119 --> 01:46:37.920 There's no need for anything else. 2342 01:46:38.520 --> 01:46:41.439 And the suicide squad is using her to be their it, 2343 01:46:41.840 --> 01:46:44.359 their IT person, and then you know that's what she's 2344 01:46:44.399 --> 01:46:46.239 been doing this whole time, to save all of her 2345 01:46:46.319 --> 01:46:48.239 I'm like you, I'm like, fine, don't know this whole 2346 01:46:48.279 --> 01:46:51.640 fake deak stuff. But then at least this dramatics quote 2347 01:46:51.720 --> 01:46:54.840 unquote dramatic scene between Clark and Oliver and the watchtower 2348 01:46:54.880 --> 01:46:56.920 and all the lights are off and there's there's thunder 2349 01:46:57.000 --> 01:46:59.319 outside for some reason to kind of add to the mood. 2350 01:46:59.439 --> 01:47:02.720 And Oliver's mad about everything. He's mad that Clark Letchoy 2351 01:47:02.840 --> 01:47:05.199 run off, and you know, and Clark. 2352 01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:07.239 He's angry at it. He's always angry at Clark. 2353 01:47:07.399 --> 01:47:09.039 Yeah, that's just that this is you know, I thought 2354 01:47:09.039 --> 01:47:11.520 you guys were in a good place. But Oliver's like, 2355 01:47:11.560 --> 01:47:14.479 I found this in her apartment and it's it's anti said, 2356 01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:19.279 and she faked her own death, and uh, okay, sure fine. 2357 01:47:19.399 --> 01:47:21.039 But then Oliver's like, all these people are gone. The 2358 01:47:21.079 --> 01:47:23.039 woman you loved is gone, the woman I love is gone. 2359 01:47:23.119 --> 01:47:24.840 We protect people so we can come home to people 2360 01:47:24.880 --> 01:47:26.880 we love, and they're all gone. And maybe we shouldn't 2361 01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:29.399 have secret identities. And I'm not sure that's the conclusion 2362 01:47:29.399 --> 01:47:31.640 I would have come to from all these events, not 2363 01:47:31.800 --> 01:47:32.960 having secret identities. 2364 01:47:33.800 --> 01:47:36.279 Yeah, that doesn't seem like maybe more like maybe we 2365 01:47:36.319 --> 01:47:37.079 shouldn't do what we do. 2366 01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:40.119 Like it's a very roundabout way of trying to get 2367 01:47:40.159 --> 01:47:43.199 back to that theme, Like they're really trying to, you know, 2368 01:47:43.319 --> 01:47:45.960 the bullet going through all of those weird things and 2369 01:47:46.039 --> 01:47:48.159 all that. That's the plot of the show. It's desperately 2370 01:47:48.279 --> 01:47:51.359 trying to find its way through everything and kind of 2371 01:47:51.399 --> 01:47:52.079 make its point. 2372 01:47:52.279 --> 01:47:54.199 Yeah, yeah, you know. 2373 01:47:54.279 --> 01:47:56.800 And I also I talk about played out Clark and 2374 01:47:57.000 --> 01:47:59.199 Oliver shouting at each other at this point kind of 2375 01:47:59.279 --> 01:48:02.439 already got out as well, Like there's a brief moment. 2376 01:48:02.479 --> 01:48:04.359 I don't know if it's in season eight or nine 2377 01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:06.600 where they're on the plane and they have like this 2378 01:48:06.760 --> 01:48:09.079 back and forth that's very funny where Clark talks about 2379 01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:12.119 quote unquote his father and Oliver's like, wait, so which 2380 01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:14.880 father is? This is someone that's like the recording in 2381 01:48:14.960 --> 01:48:18.039 the alien technology in the North Pole, And it's like 2382 01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:20.880 they have such a funny, fun dynamic. It would have 2383 01:48:20.920 --> 01:48:22.680 been nice to have more episodes whether the two of 2384 01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:25.039 them were on the same page and doing the same thing, 2385 01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:27.880 But it's always why didn't you tell me, Oliver? And 2386 01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:30.199 then Oliver's like, well, I can't tell you anything, Clark, 2387 01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:32.880 because this then the you don't have the guts to 2388 01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:35.600 do this, And I'm like, I'm so bored you guys 2389 01:48:35.720 --> 01:48:36.800 keep having this argument. 2390 01:48:38.039 --> 01:48:40.319 Clark's wearing his blue on blue, you know. 2391 01:48:40.399 --> 01:48:42.680 He is, He's I like the blue on blue. I've 2392 01:48:42.680 --> 01:48:44.880 always liked that for him because it's it's not normal 2393 01:48:44.960 --> 01:48:49.720 people that for some reason that looks has such a 2394 01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:51.720 different vibe than blue on red or vice versa. Just 2395 01:48:51.760 --> 01:48:54.000 the blue on blue now red on red would be gaudy. 2396 01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:55.199 I thank god they never did that. 2397 01:48:55.439 --> 01:48:55.760 That's a bit. 2398 01:48:56.239 --> 01:48:57.760 This is empower Rangers, right. 2399 01:48:57.720 --> 01:49:01.199 Exactly right, you know this mood this moody scene ends 2400 01:49:01.319 --> 01:49:05.279 between Clark and Oliver, and then we cut to some 2401 01:49:05.520 --> 01:49:11.920 prison cell somewhere and Break Flag is either infiltrated him 2402 01:49:11.920 --> 01:49:14.680 as a security guard and he's got Plastic with him 2403 01:49:14.680 --> 01:49:17.199 and they let out dead shot and he's like about 2404 01:49:17.399 --> 01:49:21.199 time and Plastic is like, oh, how do I say, 2405 01:49:21.279 --> 01:49:23.359 bite me and cage in or whatever? I don't know 2406 01:49:23.359 --> 01:49:26.720 what she says. Jessica Parker Kennedy clearly had not taken 2407 01:49:26.760 --> 01:49:29.159 that acting class yet that she took before she got 2408 01:49:29.199 --> 01:49:31.640 on The Flash. She's as bad. I just I was 2409 01:49:31.680 --> 01:49:33.640 so shocked. As I've seen her on The Flash years later. 2410 01:49:34.119 --> 01:49:38.000 I remember her being a good actress, but she she was. 2411 01:49:38.039 --> 01:49:43.000 On what was that pirate show, Black Flag, Black Sales, 2412 01:49:43.079 --> 01:49:46.800 Black Sails. Yeah, she was on that. 2413 01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:50.640 Yeah, you know she's she's yeah, she's kind of chewing 2414 01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:53.560 on that dialogue a little too much, because the dialogue 2415 01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:57.680 itself is already corny and campy, and so adding on 2416 01:49:57.800 --> 01:50:00.880 that extra layer of it just becomes way too much. 2417 01:50:02.039 --> 01:50:05.359 And I feel like there was she she was doing 2418 01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:07.520 the whole like I'm going to be the the sassy 2419 01:50:07.640 --> 01:50:10.039 spark plug of the group, and I'm gonna on the 2420 01:50:10.119 --> 01:50:13.039 wise ass and that those are those characters are fun. 2421 01:50:13.199 --> 01:50:15.520 But if they're over if they're overplayed, then it just 2422 01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:18.279 feels like someone trying to puff out their chest and 2423 01:50:18.319 --> 01:50:21.079 look tougher than they actually are. When this character, I 2424 01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:23.640 feel like it's supposed to come off as like you're 2425 01:50:23.680 --> 01:50:27.359 genuinely supposed to believe that, you know, like she's nasty 2426 01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:30.000 and she'll you know, she'll go after her own you know, 2427 01:50:30.159 --> 01:50:32.199 she'll go after her own partners if she had to, 2428 01:50:32.479 --> 01:50:35.520 if she was if she was pissed off. But I 2429 01:50:35.600 --> 01:50:37.720 don't get that vibe from her. She comes off a 2430 01:50:37.760 --> 01:50:40.159 lot more as as playing dress up. 2431 01:50:40.640 --> 01:50:45.840 So yeah, yeah, but hey, once we spring wyatt rp here, 2432 01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:48.560 we can start tracking her cost like she. 2433 01:50:48.640 --> 01:50:51.279 Would even know who wyatt earp is. I'm sorry, girl, 2434 01:50:51.359 --> 01:50:54.760 that age has no idea who the hell wyatt earp is? Please, 2435 01:50:54.800 --> 01:50:57.399 she wasn't she Probably she probably didn't even know who 2436 01:50:57.439 --> 01:51:00.319 Clint Eastwood was at that point, so there were you know, 2437 01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:02.640 you know, I don't know. Maybe you're right, Maybe maybe 2438 01:51:02.720 --> 01:51:04.359 she was a Tombstone fan. It's a great movie. 2439 01:51:05.119 --> 01:51:07.439 That's a great movie, But they all walk out of 2440 01:51:07.439 --> 01:51:10.079 the prison together, and Rick Flagg has to say, let's 2441 01:51:10.119 --> 01:51:11.920 give these boys a taste of what it's like to 2442 01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:14.680 mess with the suicide Squad. I'm like, mess with the 2443 01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:18.119 suicide Squad. They have done nothing to you. You were 2444 01:51:18.159 --> 01:51:21.600 the one I don't understand, Like, I guess Oliver shot you, 2445 01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:23.920 but I guess that's it's but that's because you kidnapped him, 2446 01:51:23.960 --> 01:51:26.399 Like I don't, like I am convinced by the way, 2447 01:51:26.399 --> 01:51:28.119 and I know he said this last week like the 2448 01:51:28.279 --> 01:51:31.479 end of the most disappointing follow up from Salvation was 2449 01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:36.119 that they're not Kendorian right because clearly, yeah, lying around, 2450 01:51:36.159 --> 01:51:38.359 we're like gonna be parademons, right because it's dark sided. 2451 01:51:38.359 --> 01:51:40.520 And then somebody said, hey, we don't have the budget 2452 01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:41.800 for that, Like, I guess we'll just make them the 2453 01:51:41.840 --> 01:51:44.560 suicide Squad, but make them the lamest version of the 2454 01:51:44.560 --> 01:51:47.359 Suicide Squad ever, And that's what we haven't smaveled. Unfortunately, 2455 01:51:47.720 --> 01:51:50.399 it's it's it's it's rough. I really don't care about 2456 01:51:50.399 --> 01:51:53.159 these characters, and fortunately they're not. They don't play that 2457 01:51:53.239 --> 01:51:55.119 big of a role. But then we wrap up in 2458 01:51:55.279 --> 01:51:58.640 U Africa and uh Lois and Carter are gonna never 2459 01:51:58.720 --> 01:52:01.119 tell Clark about their kissed the night before and just 2460 01:52:01.159 --> 01:52:02.600 the way again, the way they phrased it is kind 2461 01:52:02.600 --> 01:52:05.119 of really weird. But she's like, oh, that book was 2462 01:52:05.119 --> 01:52:08.159 an autobiography, you're immortal and you're a hawkman and all 2463 01:52:08.199 --> 01:52:10.560 that stuff. And then he explains how him seeing his 2464 01:52:10.680 --> 01:52:14.399 wife and Lois means he's going to die soon. So that, again, 2465 01:52:14.520 --> 01:52:18.319 that kind of explanation made that kind of thing okay, 2466 01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:20.520 but we all still are on the same page. An 2467 01:52:20.560 --> 01:52:22.000 I won't really you could, didn't need to do that. 2468 01:52:23.439 --> 01:52:25.880 But then we get we get our Meetschee reference. Right, 2469 01:52:25.960 --> 01:52:28.039 call him back to season one the Suberman. 2470 01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:31.000 Behold the Superman Man is something to be overcome? 2471 01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:35.159 Does Chloe say Superman in the series finale? 2472 01:52:36.479 --> 01:52:39.600 Yes, and that was the day the boy became Superman? Right, 2473 01:52:39.720 --> 01:52:42.319 Isn't that that's she's telling her story to baby Oliver. 2474 01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:44.960 I feel like that's yeah. 2475 01:52:45.439 --> 01:52:47.960 I feel like that that's the that's the only time 2476 01:52:48.079 --> 01:52:53.079 Superman has really said properly yeahs an finale. Everything else 2477 01:52:53.159 --> 01:52:56.960 is always reference to the quote, which is just translating. 2478 01:52:56.600 --> 01:52:59.439 Because apparently every every one of these kids know who 2479 01:52:59.600 --> 01:53:07.000 needs you is? Kansas is very cultured, I guess so yeah, absolutely. 2480 01:53:07.439 --> 01:53:10.279 So Carter's like, you gotta you're his Shiraloe, she gotta 2481 01:53:10.279 --> 01:53:12.159 go back to Clark. And she says this line out 2482 01:53:12.199 --> 01:53:14.880 of context, my future is here in Africa. 2483 01:53:17.720 --> 01:53:18.600 Until next episode? 2484 01:53:19.079 --> 01:53:22.159 What off they just say my features are in Africa? 2485 01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:24.760 I never but I just don't believe that at all. 2486 01:53:24.800 --> 01:53:28.079 I don't believe that she's found anything there that feels 2487 01:53:28.119 --> 01:53:30.279 like it's her calling. It just feels like she's there 2488 01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:33.159 and this story is happening, and she's probably gonna come 2489 01:53:33.199 --> 01:53:36.039 back soon. So I don't know why they're putting that 2490 01:53:36.159 --> 01:53:38.640 kind of false drama in there that she's never coming back. 2491 01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:39.680 I get the hell out of here. 2492 01:53:40.039 --> 01:53:43.039 Well yeah, well, also, Chloe's do dead all right or whatever? 2493 01:53:43.119 --> 01:53:46.079 Like oh yeah, like this is ther non sustainable things. 2494 01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:48.560 They'd be like if she would have said something like, 2495 01:53:48.720 --> 01:53:51.520 but my future is here in Africa, like you know, 2496 01:53:51.640 --> 01:53:52.920 kind of like a question. 2497 01:53:53.600 --> 01:53:54.479 Yeah, not certain. 2498 01:53:54.720 --> 01:53:56.680 That's what's so hilarious about you, Like, my future is 2499 01:53:56.720 --> 01:53:58.319 here in Africa? All right? 2500 01:53:58.399 --> 01:53:58.600 Sure? 2501 01:53:59.159 --> 01:54:00.960 Now are we to think of this conversation? Is why 2502 01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:06.039 she names Clark Superman because we never see that these 2503 01:54:06.079 --> 01:54:08.640 are all the things that we'll get there, y'all. Jeris 2504 01:54:08.680 --> 01:54:11.199 Fonelly like, Oh, these are all kind of milestones I 2505 01:54:11.239 --> 01:54:12.880 thought we were going to see but we never saw. 2506 01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:14.720 And so like this is as close as we get 2507 01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:16.880 to Lois thinking, oh, yeah, he's a Superman. 2508 01:54:17.880 --> 01:54:20.359 Maybe, I mean, it's definitely the evidence is there because 2509 01:54:20.720 --> 01:54:23.760 because the conversation and she knows that he knows about 2510 01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:27.159 Clark's powers and stuff, so Clark is kind of being referenced. 2511 01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:30.680 Yeah, it could be that she had in her mind, 2512 01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:34.239 like she's waiting for him, and maybe it was just 2513 01:54:34.319 --> 01:54:37.680 something that in her head she was just thinking. Then eventually, 2514 01:54:37.800 --> 01:54:40.119 once he finally you know, came out of the superhero 2515 01:54:40.199 --> 01:54:43.039 closet as it were, then it just sort of dawned 2516 01:54:43.119 --> 01:54:45.720 on her, kind of similar to Margot Kidder, where she's 2517 01:54:45.800 --> 01:54:47.680 just sort of like thinking and then it just kind 2518 01:54:47.720 --> 01:54:50.520 of comes to her. And so it might be something 2519 01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:52.520 that's in the back super mind at that end, what 2520 01:54:52.680 --> 01:54:54.920 a Superman? Now? 2521 01:54:55.039 --> 01:54:56.960 There was one deleted scene in this episode, and I 2522 01:54:57.119 --> 01:55:00.159 believe they might have intercut it with Clark walking out 2523 01:55:00.159 --> 01:55:02.720 of the shadows. Is the Blur or the new the 2524 01:55:02.800 --> 01:55:08.079 New Look Blur. It's Lois in Africa and she's looking 2525 01:55:08.159 --> 01:55:11.800 up flights out of Cairo on her phone, and then 2526 01:55:11.840 --> 01:55:15.840 she she's packing up and she's the Isis necklace gets 2527 01:55:16.119 --> 01:55:19.279 in her stuff somehow that kind of explains why she 2528 01:55:19.399 --> 01:55:22.439 has it. Later, I'm like, oh, okay, good job Carter 2529 01:55:22.479 --> 01:55:23.680 Hall protecting those artifacts. 2530 01:55:25.079 --> 01:55:28.439 But then she kind of like customs, Yeah, you know 2531 01:55:29.199 --> 01:55:30.800 what if they get the hands out and then. 2532 01:55:30.680 --> 01:55:32.439 They're on the Daily Planet private jet. 2533 01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:32.920 No they're not. 2534 01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:35.319 She wrote a cameo for eleven hours allegedly out there. 2535 01:55:35.359 --> 01:55:38.239 But yeah, this is kind of like I can see 2536 01:55:38.279 --> 01:55:40.199 them intercutting these because it'd be weird to cut from 2537 01:55:40.239 --> 01:55:42.119 like Lois packing up to Clark walking out. Soide, I 2538 01:55:42.119 --> 01:55:43.640 feel like they would intercut these is you know a 2539 01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:45.840 smavel often did a montage at the end, Yeah, because 2540 01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:48.039 because then Lois is like a slow motion like walk 2541 01:55:48.119 --> 01:55:49.840 out of the tent she was in, and that would 2542 01:55:49.840 --> 01:55:51.600 have fit what's going on with Clark here. So there 2543 01:55:51.640 --> 01:55:53.039 you go. Check out that deleted scene on the WHME 2544 01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:56.640 video releases. But we get it here. We get Clark 2545 01:55:56.680 --> 01:55:59.000 slowly walking out of the shadows on the roof of 2546 01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:00.680 the Daily Planet. I guess on all else is up there. 2547 01:56:00.760 --> 01:56:03.199 He feels confident about walking out there in his new 2548 01:56:03.640 --> 01:56:06.199 leather jacket, a very popular look. I see people wear 2549 01:56:06.199 --> 01:56:08.560 the Sick conventions all the time. Tyler, I believe you 2550 01:56:08.640 --> 01:56:12.039 have this leather jack there is you can't see what 2551 01:56:12.399 --> 01:56:14.560 He's just showed his holding of his red leather jacket. 2552 01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:19.279 Let's discuss. I am a huge fan of the black 2553 01:56:19.800 --> 01:56:21.880 look from season nine. I love the trench code. It's 2554 01:56:21.920 --> 01:56:23.800 like a cape. It's an evolution of what he had. 2555 01:56:24.119 --> 01:56:27.000 Tyler also has the action figure. I was like, so 2556 01:56:28.640 --> 01:56:30.279 you're gonna defend this look. I'm sure you are trying to. 2557 01:56:30.439 --> 01:56:32.359 I just felt like this is to me, it's kind 2558 01:56:32.399 --> 01:56:34.640 of a half step back because it's a red jacket 2559 01:56:34.680 --> 01:56:37.039 and a blue shirt to me, and it's very constraining 2560 01:56:37.039 --> 01:56:39.880 because it's his motorcycle jacket. Please you like this jacket. 2561 01:56:40.119 --> 01:56:41.640 Tell us what you like about it. 2562 01:56:42.119 --> 01:56:45.760 What I like about it. It's not perfect, But what 2563 01:56:45.840 --> 01:56:48.119 I like about is they finally put him in a 2564 01:56:48.239 --> 01:56:51.079 costume that's more identified for him, because, like you know, 2565 01:56:51.199 --> 01:56:54.760 one thing is like every Superman has their own symbol, 2566 01:56:54.840 --> 01:56:57.079 and we talked about that before. How they took they 2567 01:56:57.199 --> 01:56:59.960 kind of you know, forced in the Superman Returned stuff, 2568 01:57:00.680 --> 01:57:03.079 and this kind of felt We're like, okay, we're kind 2569 01:57:03.079 --> 01:57:05.279 of giving him his own identity and look, and he's 2570 01:57:05.319 --> 01:57:07.680 always been you know, blue shirt, red jacket, so now 2571 01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:11.199 he's wearing a red jacket with his family symbol, his 2572 01:57:11.359 --> 01:57:14.720 symbol on it. Yes, I like the black look, but 2573 01:57:14.800 --> 01:57:16.359 that was supposed to be like you know, him in 2574 01:57:16.399 --> 01:57:19.680 the dark and cutting his humanity, and he looked candorian. 2575 01:57:21.199 --> 01:57:23.199 I do like it does kind of bug me, Like 2576 01:57:24.079 --> 01:57:26.079 it is he is just wearing this jacket with jeans 2577 01:57:26.119 --> 01:57:28.039 and like biker boots. So it's like kind of a 2578 01:57:28.159 --> 01:57:30.640 mixture of what he wore in season nine and what 2579 01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:33.319 he wears now. And I just I just like it 2580 01:57:33.359 --> 01:57:35.119 because it was finally him and his own kind of 2581 01:57:35.159 --> 01:57:38.319 Superman costume. They could have done it better. It could 2582 01:57:38.359 --> 01:57:40.520 have been a little bit you know, there could have 2583 01:57:40.520 --> 01:57:42.319 been some things with it, could be more color on it, 2584 01:57:43.880 --> 01:57:45.960 because I always hate when people post pictures of like 2585 01:57:46.079 --> 01:57:49.279 Tom Welling and Superman photos. They always like put him 2586 01:57:49.319 --> 01:57:51.560 on a wrong costume or try to make a costume. 2587 01:57:51.880 --> 01:57:53.520 And I'm like, you could just put him in this 2588 01:57:54.199 --> 01:57:56.960 in you know, standing the different. 2589 01:57:56.720 --> 01:57:59.000 Superman like I would like of them. I'm like, either 2590 01:57:59.079 --> 01:58:01.199 put him in a put him in the season nine costume, 2591 01:58:01.239 --> 01:58:02.760 put him in this or put him in the last 2592 01:58:02.800 --> 01:58:05.399 shot of the show, but don't, for God's sake, don't 2593 01:58:05.439 --> 01:58:08.439 put him don't use a photo shot from two thousand 2594 01:58:08.479 --> 01:58:11.279 and six of him in the Super Returns costume. That's 2595 01:58:11.319 --> 01:58:12.159 what I see half the time. 2596 01:58:12.239 --> 01:58:14.279 But yeah, I'm just like, just use like a shot 2597 01:58:14.359 --> 01:58:17.159 from like him here, because like it it just for 2598 01:58:17.279 --> 01:58:19.479 me was something because like you look at the costuming 2599 01:58:19.840 --> 01:58:22.279 for all the other characters, they're all like jackets and hoodies, 2600 01:58:22.359 --> 01:58:25.159 and you know that's kind of the motif of everyone 2601 01:58:25.199 --> 01:58:27.239 has like a hood and a jacket. So like, you know, 2602 01:58:27.359 --> 01:58:29.560 this jacket it worked, and I just liked it because 2603 01:58:29.560 --> 01:58:32.439 it was finally him and like something with his family 2604 01:58:32.520 --> 01:58:34.520 crest that's you know, more colorful. 2605 01:58:34.800 --> 01:58:36.039 Did Martha make this you think? 2606 01:58:36.159 --> 01:58:39.880 Or I don't think we ever touch on it, like 2607 01:58:39.880 --> 01:58:41.319 because I know like later in an episode that they're 2608 01:58:41.319 --> 01:58:42.720 trying to put a hood on it and stuff and 2609 01:58:42.840 --> 01:58:44.239 he just like rips it off and stuff. 2610 01:58:44.319 --> 01:58:46.359 Well, because it's like, oh, hey, if I was Clark 2611 01:58:46.359 --> 01:58:49.119 and like, hey, mom, Darrell took that really cool costume 2612 01:58:49.119 --> 01:58:51.880 you made, could you make another one? I'll just wear that. 2613 01:58:52.079 --> 01:58:52.319 Yeah. 2614 01:58:52.520 --> 01:58:55.159 But because Derell's at the Super Returns costume to the Fortress. 2615 01:58:55.199 --> 01:58:57.199 He has to wear this. I will say this shot, 2616 01:58:57.520 --> 01:59:00.279 it's a pretty epic shot. Right. It is him on 2617 01:59:00.319 --> 01:59:03.000 the roof of the Daily Planet, American flag flapping behind him, right, 2618 01:59:03.079 --> 01:59:06.399 very very classic Superman there and truth justice in the 2619 01:59:06.439 --> 01:59:09.199 American way and it kind of looks like a cape 2620 01:59:09.359 --> 01:59:10.199 flapping behind him. 2621 01:59:10.319 --> 01:59:13.880 Yeah, it's great, a great American iconography. 2622 01:59:14.159 --> 01:59:14.359 Yeah. 2623 01:59:14.520 --> 01:59:16.720 And one way, I feel like this this jacket's like 2624 01:59:17.159 --> 01:59:25.239 too late, you know, like I get that or eight, Yeah, 2625 01:59:25.880 --> 01:59:27.840 because like you know, it's especially him stepping in the light, 2626 01:59:27.920 --> 01:59:30.239 but still like he doesn't really allow anyone to see him. 2627 01:59:30.199 --> 01:59:32.880 Right, that's the disconnect. That's the disconnect, you know. 2628 01:59:33.079 --> 01:59:35.680 So it's like he's wearing this and like you know, 2629 01:59:35.720 --> 01:59:37.560 season eight would have been good where he's doing more 2630 01:59:37.640 --> 01:59:40.399 because it takes place at that It takes because I 2631 01:59:40.399 --> 01:59:42.399 mean the jacket's not used that much in this season. 2632 01:59:42.560 --> 01:59:44.039 No, it really isn't you know what? We keep an eye. 2633 01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:45.119 Maybe I should have a counter for that. 2634 01:59:45.920 --> 01:59:48.479 What do you guys think it's the last season? You 2635 01:59:48.560 --> 01:59:49.039 might as well. 2636 01:59:49.079 --> 01:59:51.680 I haven't added a counter for a long time. Yeah. 2637 01:59:51.760 --> 01:59:54.359 What what should I call this by biker jacket or 2638 01:59:54.399 --> 01:59:56.279 what do you guys want? What do you say we're 2639 01:59:56.279 --> 01:59:57.159 going to decide right now. 2640 01:59:58.000 --> 02:00:02.159 Yeah, biker jacket sounds flacker jackets. I usually refer to 2641 02:00:02.199 --> 02:00:04.800 those jackets as a moto jacket, and it means that 2642 02:00:04.920 --> 02:00:05.800 it means the same thing. 2643 02:00:06.199 --> 02:00:08.680 Red leather jacket, red leather jackets. 2644 02:00:10.720 --> 02:00:14.000 Yeah, the red the super jacket. 2645 02:00:13.720 --> 02:00:17.199 Red red, kind of like red leather jacket. Maybe do 2646 02:00:17.319 --> 02:00:19.720 it red rolls off the tongue more than biker jacket. 2647 02:00:21.479 --> 02:00:24.880 You said he retired his proto costume, and it would 2648 02:00:24.880 --> 02:00:26.800 have been cool to see him wear this more than 2649 02:00:27.399 --> 02:00:29.439 because he was doing stuff and like as the blur 2650 02:00:29.600 --> 02:00:31.840 and stuff. And I think it would have been much 2651 02:00:31.880 --> 02:00:34.119 better because here I feel like, you know, the trench 2652 02:00:34.199 --> 02:00:36.680 coat gave that appearance of the cape and he was 2653 02:00:36.720 --> 02:00:39.119 running around in black, and here it's like he just 2654 02:00:39.199 --> 02:00:42.079 wore he's wearing a jacket with jeans, but still no 2655 02:00:42.159 --> 02:00:42.840 one's seeing him. 2656 02:00:43.520 --> 02:00:43.720 Yeah. 2657 02:00:47.119 --> 02:00:49.399 Yeah, Still I don't think we see him go burning 2658 02:00:49.439 --> 02:00:50.520 the s everywhere anymore, do we? 2659 02:00:51.399 --> 02:00:53.640 I think that's done with Yeah. 2660 02:00:53.920 --> 02:00:55.880 I just feel I feel like there could have been 2661 02:00:55.960 --> 02:00:59.359 more to this reveal, like why he decides to finally 2662 02:00:59.399 --> 02:01:02.560 because you know, put on his own suit after you 2663 02:01:02.640 --> 02:01:04.520 because it's a nice kind of adjustment if you look 2664 02:01:04.560 --> 02:01:07.560 at what he was wearing last season and what that represented, 2665 02:01:07.600 --> 02:01:10.359 and there had been something like conversation between him and 2666 02:01:10.399 --> 02:01:13.560 Oliver that he wanted to step up and actually have 2667 02:01:14.319 --> 02:01:17.319 a suit kind of you know, because he hadn't worn 2668 02:01:17.359 --> 02:01:21.119 one until season nine. What he created so for this 2669 02:01:21.279 --> 02:01:24.880 to come out and be his big jacket, I don't know. 2670 02:01:25.119 --> 02:01:27.159 Like I said, I like it because it gave him 2671 02:01:27.159 --> 02:01:29.920 his own Superman identity in a way compared to just 2672 02:01:30.239 --> 02:01:33.000 taking on the Superman returns. Do I wish they would 2673 02:01:33.000 --> 02:01:35.640 have done some things differently, but it is what it 2674 02:01:35.760 --> 02:01:36.079 is now. 2675 02:01:36.319 --> 02:01:38.880 So well, John, what are your thoughts overall on THEO 2676 02:01:39.119 --> 02:01:41.000 on the red leather jacket as we're gonna call it 2677 02:01:41.279 --> 02:01:41.920 now officially? 2678 02:01:43.439 --> 02:01:46.880 I agree that I loved the black costume in season nine. 2679 02:01:47.039 --> 02:01:49.399 It just made sense thematically from what he was going 2680 02:01:49.479 --> 02:01:53.039 through and the fact that you know, he's facing off 2681 02:01:53.079 --> 02:01:56.399 with the Candorians the whole season, possibly you know, and 2682 02:01:56.640 --> 02:01:59.840 possibly you know, joining with them or facing off with 2683 02:02:00.199 --> 02:02:02.560 and the fact that they all kind of are wearing 2684 02:02:03.039 --> 02:02:06.960 black and black jackets, so it feels almost like he's like, 2685 02:02:07.680 --> 02:02:09.920 it really does feel like he's stuck between two worlds 2686 02:02:10.079 --> 02:02:12.720 because he had because he seems almost like he's dressing 2687 02:02:12.800 --> 02:02:15.319 like the Candorians, but he obviously is sort of like 2688 02:02:15.399 --> 02:02:19.159 Earth's protector. So I really like I liked that. I 2689 02:02:19.199 --> 02:02:22.039 think it definitely worked for that season. Him sort of 2690 02:02:22.159 --> 02:02:24.319 being quote unquote killed off at the end of the 2691 02:02:24.399 --> 02:02:28.000 season was a perfect way of phasing out that costume 2692 02:02:28.399 --> 02:02:32.399 because Zod killed that Clark for all intents and purposes 2693 02:02:33.079 --> 02:02:35.079 and getting back to the blue and red. I really 2694 02:02:35.119 --> 02:02:37.279 get the feeling this was like I almost feel like 2695 02:02:37.319 --> 02:02:39.600 this was done by committee, like they were all trying 2696 02:02:39.640 --> 02:02:41.640 to find a way to get him to a red 2697 02:02:41.680 --> 02:02:44.039 and blue costume, to get him out of the shadows again, 2698 02:02:45.760 --> 02:02:47.880 but they weren't quite sure how far they wanted to 2699 02:02:47.920 --> 02:02:50.319 go with it and how much they wanted to pull back. 2700 02:02:51.479 --> 02:02:53.720 I think the jack the jacket itself, I wish it 2701 02:02:53.800 --> 02:02:55.920 was cut differently. I actually wish it was a little 2702 02:02:55.960 --> 02:02:58.039 bit more of like a traditional moto jacket, kind of 2703 02:02:58.079 --> 02:03:01.159 like what Barlon Brando wore and street car named Desire 2704 02:03:01.239 --> 02:03:03.560 or something or not the streetcar the wild Ones. That's 2705 02:03:03.600 --> 02:03:05.960 what I meant. Something I don't know, because at least 2706 02:03:05.960 --> 02:03:08.520 it'll have a little bit more character to it. Yeah, 2707 02:03:08.800 --> 02:03:11.199 because I mean I mean, the jacket is fine as is, 2708 02:03:11.359 --> 02:03:13.640 but I think just kind of it being just zipped 2709 02:03:13.720 --> 02:03:17.159 up straight and then occasionally hanging open, and it occasionally 2710 02:03:17.239 --> 02:03:20.560 zipped up all the way. It really makes it very casual. 2711 02:03:20.760 --> 02:03:23.279 As I recall, most of the time we see him 2712 02:03:23.319 --> 02:03:26.800 with it, it's it's open, I feel exactly. So you 2713 02:03:26.800 --> 02:03:29.279 can see that blue shirt, yeah, doing superhero stuff. 2714 02:03:29.359 --> 02:03:29.520 Yeah. 2715 02:03:29.640 --> 02:03:31.800 Like even the back of the figure box right here, 2716 02:03:31.960 --> 02:03:34.079 like it's half zipped, so you see the blue. 2717 02:03:35.279 --> 02:03:35.479 Yeah. 2718 02:03:36.039 --> 02:03:38.000 I feel like this was done by committee, and I 2719 02:03:38.039 --> 02:03:39.920 feel like this was the most comfortable that they were 2720 02:03:39.960 --> 02:03:42.199 able to settle on. Tom was definitely in the room 2721 02:03:42.319 --> 02:03:45.239 figure with them when they were figuring out what he 2722 02:03:45.399 --> 02:03:47.479 was going to wear, and so I just think it's 2723 02:03:47.520 --> 02:03:50.399 one of those cases where they would like push a 2724 02:03:50.439 --> 02:03:52.439 little forward to something a little bit more radical, and 2725 02:03:52.479 --> 02:03:54.279 then we're like, no, no, Like I know, we're in 2726 02:03:54.319 --> 02:03:56.600 the last season, but we need to pull back. We can't, 2727 02:03:56.640 --> 02:03:59.720 you know. So I feel like this was the kind 2728 02:03:59.760 --> 02:04:01.840 ofybrid that we got the you know, he got the 2729 02:04:01.960 --> 02:04:04.319 jeans and the boots like he's still on the farm, 2730 02:04:05.039 --> 02:04:08.000 and the T shirt and red jacket remind us of 2731 02:04:08.039 --> 02:04:12.359 the way he was before the black outfit. Yeah, you know, so, 2732 02:04:12.920 --> 02:04:15.000 like overall, I think it's fine. He doesn't wear it 2733 02:04:15.159 --> 02:04:16.560 very much. He didn't you know, he doesn't wear it 2734 02:04:17.000 --> 02:04:19.319 very much. If he was wearing it every episode, I 2735 02:04:19.439 --> 02:04:22.199 don't know where my opinion would have gone, because I 2736 02:04:22.760 --> 02:04:24.600 you know, I think as it stands, I think it 2737 02:04:25.079 --> 02:04:28.880 works as a it works as a costume. Yeah, so 2738 02:04:29.359 --> 02:04:33.000 that's really Yeah, so it's it doesn't bother me. I'm 2739 02:04:33.039 --> 02:04:34.720 not in love with it, but I don't hate it. 2740 02:04:35.239 --> 02:04:38.439 I just think that it was something that was I 2741 02:04:38.479 --> 02:04:41.119 feel like it was almost like politically created, is the 2742 02:04:41.159 --> 02:04:43.720 best way I can put it, where everyone had kind 2743 02:04:43.760 --> 02:04:46.359 of a stake in what it should look like, and 2744 02:04:46.920 --> 02:04:49.479 this is ultimately the compromise that we got. 2745 02:04:50.640 --> 02:04:52.239 Well, we're gonna keep track and find out how many 2746 02:04:52.279 --> 02:04:55.439 times Clark wears the red leather jacket. And last thing 2747 02:04:55.479 --> 02:04:58.239 I'll say about the scene, he just kind of drops 2748 02:04:58.319 --> 02:05:02.199 that plane ticket into the street. I mean, I it's 2749 02:05:02.319 --> 02:05:06.039 kind of littering for one also to get her. Yeah, 2750 02:05:06.079 --> 02:05:08.159 it's like we're gonna decoculate the costs on that are 2751 02:05:08.359 --> 02:05:11.640 I'm playing ticket to Africa, not shape for a cover. 2752 02:05:11.560 --> 02:05:13.760 Port making a lot of money as a reporter. Probably 2753 02:05:14.039 --> 02:05:14.840 I don't know what he's doing. 2754 02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:18.600 Think got Oliver Queen is a friend. The private used 2755 02:05:18.640 --> 02:05:21.000 his super brain and memorize's credit card number. He's like, 2756 02:05:21.039 --> 02:05:21.960 Oliver will understand. 2757 02:05:22.920 --> 02:05:25.199 I get the symbolism of him, like dropping that ticket. 2758 02:05:25.239 --> 02:05:27.319 Where's like, I'm gonna let that go the whole all 2759 02:05:27.359 --> 02:05:29.479 these conversations like hey, I respect Lois and she wants 2760 02:05:29.520 --> 02:05:31.000 her space, going to give to her that kind of thing, right, 2761 02:05:31.319 --> 02:05:33.079 and he just lets that ticket float. I'm like, I 2762 02:05:33.119 --> 02:05:34.840 don't like, I don't know, man like. But this is 2763 02:05:34.880 --> 02:05:36.760 why I think the juxtaposition. I think of them editing 2764 02:05:36.800 --> 02:05:39.119 to get her. That deleted scene of Lois like him 2765 02:05:39.279 --> 02:05:41.239 letting go but her coming home like that that would 2766 02:05:41.239 --> 02:05:43.720 have fit together. Well that's why that's I don't know 2767 02:05:43.800 --> 02:05:45.920 if that was the case, but I assume that might 2768 02:05:45.960 --> 02:05:47.000 have been what they were going for. But yeah, I 2769 02:05:47.000 --> 02:05:48.840 just see she drops that ticket. But it's a great 2770 02:05:48.920 --> 02:05:51.920 shot of him. Whenever the season ten sizzle reels, this 2771 02:05:52.000 --> 02:05:53.680 is one of those images they use of him standing 2772 02:05:53.720 --> 02:05:55.079 on the roof of the Daily Planet. I would have 2773 02:05:55.119 --> 02:05:56.640 loved to shot like this in the series finale, if 2774 02:05:56.680 --> 02:06:00.000 him in a Superman costume. But selav. 2775 02:06:08.039 --> 02:06:09.000 What up. 2776 02:06:14.199 --> 02:06:27.439 A very street echanti boy, they said, he wanted. 2777 02:06:29.439 --> 02:06:32.880 Very So what about you matter? 2778 02:06:33.039 --> 02:06:33.600 Supermad? 2779 02:06:36.720 --> 02:06:36.960 Oh? 2780 02:06:40.800 --> 02:06:44.640 And what if my soulmate comes along and I'm too 2781 02:06:44.680 --> 02:06:45.279 blind to see it. 2782 02:06:45.640 --> 02:06:48.039 Just follow your heart and you'll always do the right thing. 2783 02:06:51.319 --> 02:06:52.560 A magic. 2784 02:06:53.720 --> 02:06:57.520 Past my what needs your quirk? What about what we 2785 02:06:57.640 --> 02:06:58.920 need to man need? 2786 02:07:00.279 --> 02:07:01.960 O sandcakes? 2787 02:07:02.880 --> 02:07:02.920 This? 2788 02:07:03.359 --> 02:07:05.640 He said? Who are you? 2789 02:07:06.159 --> 02:07:09.760 Lois? Lois Lie greats? 2790 02:07:14.119 --> 02:07:20.239 Hello, It's just swim. 2791 02:07:22.039 --> 02:07:25.239 And you're more than just a hero. 2792 02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:30.800 They're superhero. 2793 02:07:41.520 --> 02:07:43.319 Give me a nerd with glasses any day of the week. 2794 02:07:55.520 --> 02:07:59.199 Whatsome, Something dark is coming. 2795 02:07:59.359 --> 02:08:02.039 You're gonna be like you have never been tested before. 2796 02:08:08.920 --> 02:08:09.840 I know my destiny. 2797 02:08:10.239 --> 02:08:13.039 A small film season premiere of Next Friday at eighty 2798 02:08:13.079 --> 02:08:14.159 seventh Central. 2799 02:08:16.760 --> 02:08:19.520 New on Blue Ray and DVD. This is where it's 2800 02:08:19.520 --> 02:08:21.520 all been leading you become. 2801 02:08:21.880 --> 02:08:23.279 That's great to say it. 2802 02:08:23.560 --> 02:08:25.439 More than two hours of special features. 2803 02:08:25.600 --> 02:08:27.760 The final season of Small Tale on Blue Ray and 2804 02:08:27.840 --> 02:08:30.640 DVD November twenty ninth, and on the Complete series collection 2805 02:08:30.760 --> 02:08:31.239 on DVD. 2806 02:08:33.840 --> 02:08:37.560 Shield got a seven point nine out of ten on IMDb, 2807 02:08:38.600 --> 02:08:41.359 and Douglas Trumble from the Superman homepage gave it a 2808 02:08:41.560 --> 02:08:45.119 two point five out of five and just to read 2809 02:08:45.119 --> 02:08:46.600 a little bit of what he said here, because I 2810 02:08:46.600 --> 02:08:49.039 think he sums it up nicely. Let's call it a 2811 02:08:49.079 --> 02:08:51.720 two point five worth watching for the introductions and the 2812 02:08:51.760 --> 02:08:55.439 costume reveal, but nothing you will hate yourself for if 2813 02:08:55.520 --> 02:08:58.680 you miss it. Well, pretty fair summary, I think there, Douglas. 2814 02:08:59.039 --> 02:09:02.479 But I guys on the letter grade scale E to F, 2815 02:09:02.640 --> 02:09:04.840 what would you give Shield John, Let's start with you. 2816 02:09:06.319 --> 02:09:10.039 I'm gonna give it a solid C. I can't and 2817 02:09:10.279 --> 02:09:12.720 there's not enough to elevate it to a B. But 2818 02:09:12.880 --> 02:09:15.119 I don't think it's offensive enough to drop to a 2819 02:09:15.199 --> 02:09:18.720 D or an F. I think it's quite It's funny. 2820 02:09:18.760 --> 02:09:21.279 Everything feels middle of the ground with this episode, Like 2821 02:09:21.520 --> 02:09:24.640 everything down there, even Douglas literally did a two point 2822 02:09:24.720 --> 02:09:27.840 five out of five. I think it just simply comes 2823 02:09:27.920 --> 02:09:31.079 down to everything, even down to the jacket is they 2824 02:09:31.319 --> 02:09:35.279 kind of had to compromise and make certain creative decisions 2825 02:09:35.880 --> 02:09:38.039 a certain way to get things done in a certain way. 2826 02:09:38.199 --> 02:09:42.000 So they did a lot of a lot of hard groundwork. 2827 02:09:42.159 --> 02:09:44.159 So I feel like with all the work that they 2828 02:09:44.239 --> 02:09:48.000 did in this episode, it will at least help some 2829 02:09:48.119 --> 02:09:50.560 of the story threads that are going to be moving 2830 02:09:50.720 --> 02:09:54.319 forward after this episode. So yeah, I mean I'd give 2831 02:09:54.319 --> 02:09:54.920 it a solid C. 2832 02:09:56.279 --> 02:09:59.520 What about you, Tyler, I'm with him. I'm gonna a 2833 02:09:59.560 --> 02:10:04.600 C plug just because my highlights for this is minus 2834 02:10:04.680 --> 02:10:08.079 the kiss, I love the lowest and Carter stuff. I 2835 02:10:08.159 --> 02:10:11.359 think that should have been a big focus. The jacket 2836 02:10:11.439 --> 02:10:13.199 reveal is cool just because it is, like I said, 2837 02:10:13.239 --> 02:10:15.600 stepping out and trying to do something and with the 2838 02:10:15.720 --> 02:10:19.399 character got a great car safe you know that's in 2839 02:10:19.520 --> 02:10:24.159 the in the bullet catch scene are exciting, but you 2840 02:10:24.239 --> 02:10:27.319 know they're trying to hype it up with the suicide 2841 02:10:27.319 --> 02:10:30.399 Squass didn't really do it for me. We've already talked 2842 02:10:30.399 --> 02:10:32.239 about that. So, like it is just kind of like 2843 02:10:32.399 --> 02:10:35.119 there's a lot in this episode, but nothing's really paying off. 2844 02:10:35.159 --> 02:10:38.479 I think the way they intended, like the cyanide, the 2845 02:10:38.560 --> 02:10:43.600 anti the antidote, the suicide squad character introductions, the tension 2846 02:10:43.640 --> 02:10:45.920 of oh they're being marked, it all just kind of 2847 02:10:45.960 --> 02:10:48.199 feels like it fell kind of flat. And then of 2848 02:10:48.279 --> 02:10:50.199 course you know they're like cat Grint and then you're 2849 02:10:50.199 --> 02:10:52.159 like oh sweet. Then you meet it and you're like, okay, 2850 02:10:52.199 --> 02:10:55.920 what is this? But yeah, see C plus. 2851 02:10:56.920 --> 02:10:59.239 Yeah, I'm I'm gonna go C plus as well. I mean, 2852 02:10:59.319 --> 02:11:01.800 it's kind of feels like, oh, they're that low. I'm like, 2853 02:11:01.880 --> 02:11:04.159 I don't know. This is like I think we're all 2854 02:11:04.359 --> 02:11:07.640 smart guys here, and I don't think that suicide squad 2855 02:11:07.720 --> 02:11:09.640 plot added up at all. And I just think that's 2856 02:11:09.680 --> 02:11:11.520 a major problem. Hey, you know what, I would have 2857 02:11:11.600 --> 02:11:14.479 tagged Oliver when I had it enkidnapped. Maybe that's why 2858 02:11:14.479 --> 02:11:17.600 I tacked Oliver throwing that out there. It's just I 2859 02:11:17.600 --> 02:11:20.000 don't know. I don't think we missed anything. 2860 02:11:20.720 --> 02:11:22.600 I just think it's like if if I would pitch 2861 02:11:22.680 --> 02:11:25.079 this to you, like on paper. Like In the next 2862 02:11:25.159 --> 02:11:29.960 episode of Small vill Lois meets Carter Hall, the suicide 2863 02:11:30.000 --> 02:11:34.039 squad introduced Cat Grant comes to the Daily Planet, and 2864 02:11:34.199 --> 02:11:36.640 Clark reveals his new costume that sounds amazing. 2865 02:11:36.920 --> 02:11:40.479 The Wikipedia summary of this episode is A plus. Uh, 2866 02:11:40.640 --> 02:11:44.479 the actual episode is a C plus, but no, John's 2867 02:11:44.479 --> 02:11:46.399 gonna eve to see. Tyler's giving it a C plus 2868 02:11:46.439 --> 02:11:48.600 and I am also giving it a C plus. That 2869 02:11:48.720 --> 02:11:51.039 brings us to the tally board. We have an episode 2870 02:11:51.079 --> 02:11:53.279 title some episode plus one because Clark when he's talking 2871 02:11:53.279 --> 02:11:57.600 to I'm gonna be their shield to whoever close the 2872 02:11:57.720 --> 02:12:01.520 shield act their shield, and it was it's funny because 2873 02:12:01.560 --> 02:12:04.119 in my head I always associated shield with oh, yeah, 2874 02:12:04.119 --> 02:12:06.680 the new costume. That's shield on the but it has nothing. 2875 02:12:06.720 --> 02:12:08.560 That's what I thought it was too. Yeah, that's what 2876 02:12:08.640 --> 02:12:09.560 I thought that was called. 2877 02:12:09.600 --> 02:12:11.359 I would have thought they would have never said shield 2878 02:12:11.439 --> 02:12:13.119 and been like, oh, that's why it's called shield. No, 2879 02:12:13.239 --> 02:12:15.760 they actually say shield. So that brings us to eighty two. 2880 02:12:16.239 --> 02:12:18.479 So far, we have a plus one for Lois's costume 2881 02:12:18.520 --> 02:12:21.359 closet because Kat finds that stuff on the coat rack 2882 02:12:21.399 --> 02:12:25.680 and uses it. That brings us to nineteen. And finally 2883 02:12:25.760 --> 02:12:29.479 we have red leather jacket. Plus one is the debut. 2884 02:12:29.600 --> 02:12:31.800 We talked about it in depth, and we're gonna keep 2885 02:12:31.800 --> 02:12:34.720 track of how often he wears this. We'll see if 2886 02:12:34.720 --> 02:12:36.960 it's even double digit. I'm really curious because I feel 2887 02:12:36.960 --> 02:12:39.079 like he doesn't wear that often in season ten, for 2888 02:12:39.520 --> 02:12:41.760 all his hoopla about his big new costume. 2889 02:12:41.520 --> 02:12:43.760 Because when I think about that, when I think about 2890 02:12:43.840 --> 02:12:46.319 him in that I only think of two scenes. I 2891 02:12:46.359 --> 02:12:47.800 think of him on the roof and I think of 2892 02:12:47.880 --> 02:12:52.079 him during the funeral, like that's it. Those are the 2893 02:12:52.159 --> 02:12:54.199 only times that mentally I could mind you, it's been 2894 02:12:54.279 --> 02:12:56.520 years since I watched this season. It's more than that. 2895 02:12:56.840 --> 02:12:59.199 But and then the one I think of is when 2896 02:12:59.439 --> 02:13:01.039 HiT's him and horor like in the nightclub. 2897 02:13:01.199 --> 02:13:03.399 Yeah, it's like the size nightclub or something. 2898 02:13:03.560 --> 02:13:06.520 Yeah. And then there's the part where I don't know 2899 02:13:06.560 --> 02:13:08.039 if it's the same meths are different, where they're like 2900 02:13:08.119 --> 02:13:09.720 we talked about earlier there but trying to put the 2901 02:13:09.760 --> 02:13:11.600 hood on it, and he's like with Lois and it's 2902 02:13:11.640 --> 02:13:12.079 not working. 2903 02:13:12.159 --> 02:13:16.880 He's a Jonathan's grave with its coming. And then I 2904 02:13:16.920 --> 02:13:19.079 think he wears it in Patriot with ackamand and with 2905 02:13:19.159 --> 02:13:21.039 John McCain death stroke. I know where's it there? 2906 02:13:22.680 --> 02:13:25.319 But what if we just named every what if we 2907 02:13:25.399 --> 02:13:27.279 just named him six of them? 2908 02:13:27.279 --> 02:13:29.800 I don't know. We'll find out. I look, if the 2909 02:13:29.880 --> 02:13:33.840 over under is ten, I'm taking the under taking the under. 2910 02:13:34.000 --> 02:13:35.239 This will be a fun one. I didn't even this 2911 02:13:35.319 --> 02:13:36.359 is great. We gotta do category. 2912 02:13:36.479 --> 02:13:38.199 I agree with you on that one. I agree with 2913 02:13:38.279 --> 02:13:39.359 you on that one. I'm gonna go under. 2914 02:13:39.479 --> 02:13:40.159 What do you think, Tyler? 2915 02:13:40.880 --> 02:13:41.720 I'm gonna say under? 2916 02:13:41.760 --> 02:13:42.079 All right? 2917 02:13:43.760 --> 02:13:45.680 I was gonna say, like I paid attention, like they're 2918 02:13:46.199 --> 02:13:48.680 you know, you always did the Bechtel tests and there 2919 02:13:48.720 --> 02:13:51.079 are no two female characters that actually talk to each other. 2920 02:13:51.199 --> 02:13:52.960 No, that's that's the last. That's the last. Catea go 2921 02:13:53.079 --> 02:13:55.800 here bechel tests fail. I mean the cat grant never 2922 02:13:55.880 --> 02:13:58.760 talks to tests and Lois is an Africo. So but 2923 02:13:58.960 --> 02:14:01.199 Lois will be back and hopefully we'll start passing the 2924 02:14:01.239 --> 02:14:01.680 test again. 2925 02:14:02.359 --> 02:14:04.319 I just thought it was interesting that no two females 2926 02:14:04.560 --> 02:14:05.479 ever talk to each other. 2927 02:14:05.840 --> 02:14:07.760 Yeah, we need more females on the suicide squad. 2928 02:14:08.960 --> 02:14:09.199 Yeah. 2929 02:14:09.880 --> 02:14:11.960 Yeah, there's another female who didn't talk to other females. 2930 02:14:12.000 --> 02:14:14.399 You literally had four female characters on this and this 2931 02:14:14.560 --> 02:14:16.399 episode and none of them spoke to each other. 2932 02:14:18.479 --> 02:14:20.520 Yeah, so that's a fail. 2933 02:14:21.920 --> 02:14:24.760 But y'all, this conversation has not been a fiel a 2934 02:14:24.800 --> 02:14:27.079 lot of fun. Thanks for taking the time to talk 2935 02:14:27.119 --> 02:14:30.880 about Shield with me. John. If people want to find 2936 02:14:30.920 --> 02:14:32.680 you out there on the internet, or if you want 2937 02:14:32.720 --> 02:14:33.319 them to find you. 2938 02:14:36.720 --> 02:14:38.600 Well, I mean, if you want to. I don't really 2939 02:14:38.680 --> 02:14:40.640 have anything up right now. I just have my Instagram 2940 02:14:40.760 --> 02:14:44.239 and it's more or less like a fashion blog. So 2941 02:14:44.279 --> 02:14:47.600 if you're into that. It's a gentleman's armor, which is 2942 02:14:47.800 --> 02:14:50.760 taken from Kingsman, and armor is spelled with a you 2943 02:14:50.920 --> 02:14:54.439 because I'm pretentious. That's pretty but that movie pretty much 2944 02:14:54.479 --> 02:14:57.760 had me kick off the fashion blog because I love suiting, 2945 02:14:57.800 --> 02:15:00.720 I love dressing up, and that kind of started. And 2946 02:15:00.800 --> 02:15:03.600 I actually been thinking about doing a starting my own 2947 02:15:03.640 --> 02:15:06.760 podcast about fashion the way it's used in movies and television. 2948 02:15:06.840 --> 02:15:09.640 But we'll see when that happens. 2949 02:15:09.640 --> 02:15:11.800 So yeah, that'd be great. So if you want to 2950 02:15:11.800 --> 02:15:14.119 see a sharp dressed man, look up John on Instagram. 2951 02:15:14.279 --> 02:15:15.039 Always appreciate. 2952 02:15:15.159 --> 02:15:18.079 Thank you, Zach absolutely and Tyler. What about you? How 2953 02:15:18.079 --> 02:15:19.520 are things going with the Krypton Report. 2954 02:15:20.520 --> 02:15:24.359 It's doing good. You can find me anywhere where podcasts 2955 02:15:24.399 --> 02:15:27.760 are and social media find Krypton Report always something to 2956 02:15:27.840 --> 02:15:31.640 talk about. We've had some fun episodes recently, just trying 2957 02:15:31.680 --> 02:15:34.399 to take you know, have some good times. 2958 02:15:35.439 --> 02:15:39.079 So that's gonna do it for this conversation. We'll be 2959 02:15:39.159 --> 02:15:43.239 back next time talking about Supergirl. Guys, can you believe 2960 02:15:43.239 --> 02:15:45.279 there's an episode of the show called Supergirl but there's 2961 02:15:45.319 --> 02:15:47.960 not an episode of the show called Superman? Yeah, I 2962 02:15:48.000 --> 02:15:48.399 believe it. 2963 02:15:48.520 --> 02:15:51.159 I actually for this show, I one hundred percent believe that. 2964 02:15:51.800 --> 02:15:53.239 That's not even kind of checking. 2965 02:15:54.560 --> 02:15:56.800 Oh yeah, we didn't even mention they talking about bringing 2966 02:15:56.800 --> 02:16:00.239 everybody back right Lork redver care Ow she's back, So 2967 02:16:00.359 --> 02:16:02.680 I mean, that was a must, that was an absolute 2968 02:16:02.760 --> 02:16:05.039 lust and they did it, so kudos to them. How 2969 02:16:05.119 --> 02:16:08.960 they handle that will discuss this season, but exactly until 2970 02:16:09.079 --> 02:16:12.199 next time when we talk about Supergirl. 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