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<v Speaker 1>You know, it just works on so many levels. When

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<v Speaker 1>you start listening to the lyrics, you know it just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, it's one of the bits I

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<v Speaker 1>can't quit.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know the deal. When we play Limp Biscuit on.

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<v Speaker 1>This radio show, it's signed to welcome in club legend

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<v Speaker 1>future Hall of Famer Trey Fitzgerald.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the Hall of Fame? By the time you got

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<v Speaker 2>the intro, right, who's the hall of Fame named after? Again?

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<v Speaker 1>That you're going to be inducted to some NWSL like

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<v Speaker 1>you told us this weekend. I better be there when

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<v Speaker 1>you're inducted into the whatever hall of fame.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there is a Colin Jose Media Award, okay at

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<v Speaker 2>the National Soccer Hall of Fame, and Colin Jose was

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<v Speaker 2>a NWSC. Now the archive is for the NASL, the

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<v Speaker 2>league that form the foundation for the sport in this

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<v Speaker 2>country over the last fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>How do how do we get you on the list

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<v Speaker 1>for that award or do you actually have to work

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<v Speaker 1>for it?

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<v Speaker 2>Good question, just out of curiosity. Hello, Trey, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great? How are you great? To see you live

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<v Speaker 2>in studio.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've ever wondered what Trey looks like and why

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympus get music works so well, Uh, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't throw deuces up log on our YouTube channel. Trey

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<v Speaker 1>is in studio. I always appreciate your time coming down.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's just start.

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<v Speaker 1>With some big picture stuff with the club, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>been it's been a rough start and it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>little chaotic behind the scenes with the ownership transition. The

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<v Speaker 1>primary transfer window comes and goes with a couple of additions,

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<v Speaker 1>but no additions that I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>were either hoping or expecting when it came to a DP.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bosanique deal with the Portuguese club falls apart at

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<v Speaker 1>last minute. So what's the past you know, a month,

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<v Speaker 1>month and a half been like for you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been I think energetic, it's been dynamic. I

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<v Speaker 2>think in all ways it's been positive. Even the Bosenig

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<v Speaker 2>deal falling apart, it was you know, that happened as

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<v Speaker 2>a result of I think Kurt and company drawing a

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<v Speaker 2>line in the sand and saying you're not gonna to

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<v Speaker 2>change from euros or dollars to euros at the last

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<v Speaker 2>minute and ask for a bunch more money. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the deal and move the goalposts and change the terms.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I think Kurt got to a point

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<v Speaker 2>where he felt like if we met their demands, it

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<v Speaker 2>would set a bad precedent and it would also kind

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<v Speaker 2>of hamstring us a little bit in the summer. So

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<v Speaker 2>the Agata trade was made with with Sporting Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't really seen him much yet. He did play

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<v Speaker 2>forty five at Vancouver, played what twenty two to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three at San Diego. Clearly he's a talented player. He

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<v Speaker 2>scored two goals against US last year. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess in my mind maybe he ends up being over

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<v Speaker 2>the longer term, more of the Anderson Julio replacement. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Chicho was really good for San Jose the

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<v Speaker 2>other night, and I think that'll be Kurt's focus in

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<v Speaker 2>the summer. Is is a killer nine and you reference

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<v Speaker 2>the ownership change. Every experiences I've had with anybody on

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<v Speaker 2>the Miller side in the months leading up to the

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<v Speaker 2>official public announcement has been nothing but amazingly positive. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, look, Spence, I never once thought that RSL

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<v Speaker 2>would leave Utah or move from Utah. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Commissioner Garber and others. They said, with the Miller family

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<v Speaker 2>being the majority locally engaged owner, there's never a doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the Blitzer group is still very much involved,

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<v Speaker 2>especially on the sporting side. We've got some young academy

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<v Speaker 2>products that are over in Denmark with Bronby right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're going to get some cups of coffee around

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<v Speaker 2>some of the different teams in the continent there. That's

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<v Speaker 2>exciting stuff for the development of a kid. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>probably super exciting for our fans that are worried about

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<v Speaker 2>first team performance over the first third of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess the saving grace right now as I

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<v Speaker 2>try to look at things glass half full, is we've

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<v Speaker 2>got twenty five games left across all competitions, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of time to kind of turn the ship around.

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<v Speaker 2>Four wins, seven losses in MLS, we're only I think

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<v Speaker 2>six points out of second place, which is amazing. Seven points.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe go to Dallas this weekend at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>a three game road trip. Dallas just got smashed, so

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<v Speaker 2>if we can get the three points there, take six

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<v Speaker 2>out of nine. The Vancouver loss is disappointing, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>the best team in the league. So for us to

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<v Speaker 2>have kind of maybe not embarrassed ourselves against them is

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<v Speaker 2>a moral victory, which obviously don't count for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven points out of second in fairness, two points out

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<v Speaker 1>of fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, tightly packed.

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<v Speaker 1>But look, I bring it up for context because over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the twenty years now, which is still

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<v Speaker 1>wild for me to think about, in the existence of

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<v Speaker 1>the club, some of our best teams had horrible starts

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<v Speaker 1>and some of our worst teams had awesome stus. This season,

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<v Speaker 1>almost unlike any other, is an absolute marathon. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not a sprint. So I'm not ready to anoint or dismiss,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think there is a faction of this

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<v Speaker 1>fan base that looks at and I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>walk us through this because you've been around the league

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<v Speaker 1>forever and it is a single entity policy continuously. So

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot draw a straight line by doing all of

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<v Speaker 1>the math of every player you let go and saying,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we spend every one of those dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>a player transfer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not how the business model works.

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<v Speaker 1>However, it is I think understandable for a fan base

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<v Speaker 1>it saw potentially fifteen to eighteen of the most exciting

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<v Speaker 1>games that we've ever seen here last year with that

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<v Speaker 1>group of attacking players be broken down brick by brick

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<v Speaker 1>without adequate replacements.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's fair. True, Yeah, yeah, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>is fair. The whiplash from a year ago to now

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<v Speaker 2>is certainly I think exacerbating the situation because you do

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<v Speaker 2>go fifteen games in the league unbeaten for the better

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<v Speaker 2>part of March, April and May. You're in first place,

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<v Speaker 2>You're in the supporter shield race. Chicho's got seventeen goals

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<v Speaker 2>in seventeen games. I think at that point you sell Andres,

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<v Speaker 2>Chicho scores one goal in his final what twenty games,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say maybe a little less over the second half

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<v Speaker 2>of the season, it was. It was a stumble to

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<v Speaker 2>the finish after you sell Andres. Now it's not I

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<v Speaker 2>think people forget that. Okay, you sell Andres for eleven million,

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<v Speaker 2>it goes to thirteen with some bonuses. All that money

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<v Speaker 2>isn't paid up front. You take five million of what

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<v Speaker 2>you get from him and you buy Diogo, you buy

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<v Speaker 2>Dominic MARCHUK, you buy Lachlan Brook, you sign Javane Brown

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<v Speaker 2>off of waivers from Vancouver. So it's not like no

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<v Speaker 2>resources were used and everything was pocketed. That's just not

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<v Speaker 2>how it works. Because some of these dollars are real

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<v Speaker 2>cash dollars, as you've heard Kurt explain. Some the gam

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<v Speaker 2>is not real cash. It's fictional. Kind of capology, if

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<v Speaker 2>you will. I think you know, the chi Cho move

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<v Speaker 2>was calculated. The Matt Crooks move was maybe a little late,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was right by him. He's doing very well

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the championship over in England. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think now through the first ten eleven games, we've realized

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<v Speaker 2>how much work he did for everybody else and you're

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<v Speaker 2>missing that. Now. What it's done is you're allowing Diego

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<v Speaker 2>Luna to become the man. As Pablo said a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks ago, he's not on the assent anymore. This

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<v Speaker 2>is his team. He's he's the man. Maybe that's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to put on a twenty one year old shoulders,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Maybe Dominic has not. He's been I think positive,

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<v Speaker 2>but he hasn't been as consistent as he was in

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<v Speaker 2>the final seven games last year. Arip Ol clearly learning

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<v Speaker 2>on the job. Agata and Russell we've hardly seen box

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<v Speaker 2>to box. I think everybody feels really good about the

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<v Speaker 2>core of the team and Annelli and Ojeita and Glad

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<v Speaker 2>and Vera and Junka and Katranas and you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>right back, we've had a rotating cast of characters. Rafael

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<v Speaker 2>Cabral has been phenomenal, but we don't have those difference

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<v Speaker 2>makers the Chico and Andres that we had a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody other than Diego's really stepped up in that category.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and we I think it might be time and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe pastime to have a salient, honest conversation about Diogo,

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<v Speaker 1>who has the same amount of goals as Sam Junka

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<v Speaker 1>right now, right he has a goal and he has

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<v Speaker 1>two assists in eleven games. And you know, last year

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<v Speaker 1>he rolled into town with a lot of fanfare and

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<v Speaker 1>was not productive.

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<v Speaker 2>And the walking line was we need a preseason with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's your only DP, and from my vantage point,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been good enough. So maybe you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing things in training or moments where you know he

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<v Speaker 1>is providing the quality.

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<v Speaker 2>That you want from that position.

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<v Speaker 1>But at what point do we look at that and say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, it's not a It hasn't worked

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<v Speaker 1>right so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think there's a couple of ways to

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<v Speaker 2>look at it, And you know, talking to Pablo and

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<v Speaker 2>Kurt Daily as I do, I think Pablo looks at

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<v Speaker 2>Diogo and says, Okay, this is a guy who played

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one Champions League games. Clearly there's quality and pedigree,

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<v Speaker 2>different league, different style of play. He was not the

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<v Speaker 2>man in any of those situations at Copenhagen or Benfica.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the man behind the man, or the man

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<v Speaker 2>behind the man behind the man. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 2>that Pablo has said consistently in his Apple production calls

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<v Speaker 2>is Diogo is a very smart technical player. He's an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible finisher. When he's on the field, he's seeing the

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<v Speaker 2>game in Pablo's estimation two three, four steps ahead, but

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<v Speaker 2>nobody around him is seeing the game at the same

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<v Speaker 2>cadence as he is, So there's a disconnect there. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>He's surrounded by an awful lot of youth. And again

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<v Speaker 2>these are all just making excuses for him, because if

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't have those two DP initials next to his name,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the perception of his contribution as performance would

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<v Speaker 2>probably be very different. So I would expect in the

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<v Speaker 2>summer you add a DP, maybe maybe that DP that

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<v Speaker 2>presence of that other DP would hold him accountable in

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<v Speaker 2>such a way. Maybe he leaves. I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 2>could be one situation or another. His wife just announced

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram a week ago that they are expecting their

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<v Speaker 2>first child graduate So you never know how some of

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<v Speaker 2>these off field things are happening. Like you know, you've

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<v Speaker 2>heard the guys talk about. You know, Dominic's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>choppy start to the beginning of the season can be

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<v Speaker 2>attributed as fact his dad has been very unhealthy and

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<v Speaker 2>he's been five thousand miles away from that situation, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Dunny's been talking about this for years. You

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<v Speaker 2>just never know how guys. Some guys are very good

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<v Speaker 2>at compartmenting the ninety minutes on the field and everything

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<v Speaker 2>else off and the other guys it bleeds through and

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<v Speaker 2>it affects them. So the good news is things haven't frayed, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>guys haven't turned on each other, and all you can

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<v Speaker 2>hope for is improvement day by day, hour by hour,

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<v Speaker 2>and game by game.

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<v Speaker 1>So the explanation for Diego is that he's too good,

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<v Speaker 1>he's too smart, and it's too of all, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not on the same page. Okay, Well, he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>the way he supposedly is. But at least Diego is

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<v Speaker 1>producing six goals, two assists, another goal over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>a PK finish against Vancouver. You've had a front row

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<v Speaker 1>some RSL fans don't love that. I wax poetic and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some of our great superstars back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, Trey he has the ability to be

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<v Speaker 1>better in all of them. Yeah, and I hope most

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<v Speaker 1>of those years are here. I get the deal that

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<v Speaker 1>that probably isn't the case. But what's it been like

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<v Speaker 1>for you to watch this kid blow up and evolve

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, Diego clearly came here as

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<v Speaker 2>growth for him is maybe holding teammates accountable, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>in training sessions, it's in film sessions, it's in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the game. Oh yeah, And though he will

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<v Speaker 2>grab a guy by the collar like Jason Christ used

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<v Speaker 2>to do, and say wake up, let's go what is

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with you? Matt Banky. It was Luke krammel Meyer

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<v Speaker 2>as the vivid one in my maybe Tino Nuniez as well,

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<v Speaker 2>shout out, I can keep going, you know, I can

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<v Speaker 2>play this game all Diego like Apple is asking him

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<v Speaker 2>to be an ambassador. MLS wants to use him in everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Landon Donovan and Tim Howard want them on their on

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<v Speaker 2>their podcast. He's done. You know. He did the and

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<v Speaker 2>or thing with the actor Diego Luna, Travis Scott had

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<v Speaker 2>him out to Coachella. These are things that don't typically

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<v Speaker 2>happen to a real Salt lakey no matter how many

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<v Speaker 2>goals you have. And and the thing is is like

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<v Speaker 2>Diego's matured, but he hasn't really changed. Like he's still

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<v Speaker 2>a good guy that you can walk up to and

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<v Speaker 2>and dap up and just have a good conversation with his.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was twenty one and suddenly the world was

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<v Speaker 2>acting like I was important, I would expect my ego

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<v Speaker 2>to probably outgrow its efficiency, you know. And look, part

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<v Speaker 2>of what's great about Diego is his belief in himself

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that quiet confidence. But he really has

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<v Speaker 2>put this team on his shoulders. He's got what two

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<v Speaker 2>two goal games, He's made Team of the Week three times,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think he's again. I don't know what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I expect him to be here for a year. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that gives him the best chance to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the Gold Cup here in a couple months under poach

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<v Speaker 2>a team know then and then really give himself a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to make that World Cup team a year from now.

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<v Speaker 2>And the US soccer assistants that have been around clearly

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<v Speaker 2>Pochattino loves him. They love his grit, his grind, his

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<v Speaker 2>attitude on both sides of the ball, and he's not

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<v Speaker 2>afraid to try stuff. And we saw it in the

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<v Speaker 2>Nations League whatever semi final and final or third place

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<v Speaker 2>game I should say, where the US lost to Panama

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<v Speaker 2>in Canada. He was the lone bright spot. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the only guy trying things. He was the only guy

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<v Speaker 2>making things happen for himself and for others. So sky's

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<v Speaker 2>a limit still for a twenty one year old Diego Luna.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit of a non sequitur, but you're referenced Aarsaul

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<v Speaker 1>players at Coachella, and so I've got to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>about Nick Rimando being inducted in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick is a known music festival guy, absolutely, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>little history lesson. I can remember one of my wake

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<v Speaker 1>up calls to Okay, professional soccer in America is much

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<v Speaker 1>different than professional professional basketball, professional football, the sports I

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<v Speaker 1>was raised around, when I found out that our starting

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<v Speaker 1>keeper in two thousand and seven, Scott Garlic, had elected

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<v Speaker 1>to retire because he had an opportunity in real estate.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for Scott, apparently it's worked out for him, just fine,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it. But ultimately I can remember thinking, like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>a athlete in his maybe later prime is retiring when

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<v Speaker 1>he has a contract to keep playing to work in

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<v Speaker 1>real estate. So we were scrambling to get a keeper

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimately went and reacquired Nick Romando from d C

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<v Speaker 1>New York where Bruce Arena correct. Okay, So we were

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<v Speaker 1>able to acquire Romando in the deal that also brought

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<v Speaker 1>us Freddy Freddy You Do, which did not work out

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<v Speaker 1>as well as we were expecting. We did not know

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<v Speaker 1>that the better piece of that deal was actually the

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<v Speaker 1>keeper that we were receiving, who turned out to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the main conduits to lifting trophies and by

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<v Speaker 1>most accounts, the greatest keeper this league has ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>So your thoughts on on NICKI getting inducted into the

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<v Speaker 1>National Hall of Fame, the only RSL player to have this.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine Kyle gets there at some point. I

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<v Speaker 1>would hope Kyle can get in the next year or two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Nick Romando inducted in the National Soccer Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Fame in Frisco, Texas this weekend. We will celebrate Nick

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<v Speaker 2>on June fourteenth against DC United at America First Field

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<v Speaker 2>in Sandy, and Nick will get his name put up

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<v Speaker 2>in the Ring of Honor next to Jason christ and

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<v Speaker 2>Javier Morales and clearly the three of them were teammates

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<v Speaker 2>together on that MLS Cup two thousand and nine championship team.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Rimando was named the MasterCard Most Valuable Player.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They were then up in Seattle against Galaxy and Nicky's

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<v Speaker 2>just been for a guy that never won the Goalkeeper

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<v Speaker 2>of the award, which is insane. He should have wanted

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<v Speaker 2>the following year in twenty ten, when RSL only allowed,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, in thirty four games and the

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<v Speaker 2>reason Nick didn't win that year. I was told was

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<v Speaker 2>because Borcher's and Lave were ahead of him and they

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<v Speaker 2>both made Best eleven, but Nick didn't. Whatever. It was

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<v Speaker 2>very silly, but anyway, you know Nick. Nick's second act

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<v Speaker 2>of his career was here, right. He won a Cup

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<v Speaker 2>in DC, but he had suffered a knee injury and

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<v Speaker 2>he was considered damage goods. And to your point, we

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<v Speaker 2>traded for Freddy Adu from d C in like November.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Romondo was a throw in in that deal. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we sent j Nalli and a draft pick the

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<v Speaker 2>other way, and then Nick ended up moving to We

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<v Speaker 2>traded him to New York because he wanted to play

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<v Speaker 2>for Arena again and we wanted Garlic, and then well

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<v Speaker 2>we had Garlic from the first couple of years. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Garlic retires two weeks before the season, and Bruce

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<v Speaker 2>Arene told John Ellinger and I don't know, March of seven,

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<v Speaker 2>who do you want. You can have Nick back, or

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<v Speaker 2>you can have John Conway, who was a decent keeper

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. And Ellinger goes, I guess we'll take Nick.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Nick plays for us for another fourteen seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Leeds MLS all time in minutes played, games played, games started, saves, wins,

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<v Speaker 2>all the important goalkeeping categories, and some of these record

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<v Speaker 2>spans are most likely untouchable because Kyle Nick others were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a rare breed Pablo that played their entire

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen fifteen years professionally in MLS, and some of them

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<v Speaker 2>have played the majority of those years for one team.

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<v Speaker 2>We're seeing it now, Diego Sharra up in Portland has

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<v Speaker 2>played his entire career with the Timbers. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>few examples here and there, but we're so glad that

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<v Speaker 2>Nick made a home here. He operates businesses here, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the goalkeeper coach for the Monarch, spends a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>time with our academy kids as well, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Gavin Beaver's and every other young keeper that's

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<v Speaker 2>come through our club would would credit Nick with some

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<v Speaker 1>So moving back over to here and now, because there

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<v Speaker 1>are some bright spots other than Diego, and I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to Pablo about this last week because, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the road with the club in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, good, look, I mean, folks are saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that, but folks are saying that you

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<v Speaker 1>elected to ditch me on the trip, which is fine.

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<v Speaker 2>The trip worked out just fine for your boy. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>leave that off there.

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<v Speaker 1>But watching the win against San Diego and a mecha

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<v Speaker 1>has been good for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>He controlled the entire flow of the game. And I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Pablo about this. And you remember this funny

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<v Speaker 1>anecdote that I always share about Kyle, about Kyle Beckerman

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<v Speaker 1>because I can remember. This was two thousands seven. Jay

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<v Speaker 1>took the head coaching job in Okay, so he had

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle at holding mid, which is Kyle's, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>position that he became a legend of the club. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course me still learning the game of soccer, Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>scores one of his Becker bombs. We used to call

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<v Speaker 1>him this thirty yard blast, and we were having trouble scoring.

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<v Speaker 2>So on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Postgame show, I say to Jason, Hey, dude, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a great idea for you, buddy, Kyle needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>playing up top. He needs to be playing striker or

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<v Speaker 1>central attacking mid. And Jason gave him this look like

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<v Speaker 1>I will strangle you right now. But I'll never forget

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<v Speaker 1>what he said to me because it turned out to

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<v Speaker 1>be prophetic. He said, if Kyle embraces this position and

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm asking him to do in this diamond formation,

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<v Speaker 1>he will play in a World Cup, which he did.

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<v Speaker 1>And so after that conversation with Jason, I watched Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>in a different way than I had prior to, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let people focus on the ball. They focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the touchdown, pass, the dunk, unless it's Jokic, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a layup because you can't dunk, or in soccer it's

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<v Speaker 1>the goals. You focus on the moments, right, So, after

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<v Speaker 1>watching Kyle just dominate the way that he did at

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<v Speaker 1>that position, it gives me a different set of eyes

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<v Speaker 1>to watch a mecca evolve the way he's And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little Kyle in a mecca, I thought. So as

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<v Speaker 1>far as bright spots that we're going to go there,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a mecca continues to evolve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And what Pablo consistently praises a mecca for is

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<v Speaker 2>his brain, his intelligence, his ability to process information. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a mecca has the fortune of playing the

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<v Speaker 2>same position that Pablo and Kyle played for fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>at a very very high level in this league and

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<v Speaker 2>in this country. And a mecca is constantly taking what

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<v Speaker 2>Pablo is teaching him, whether it's in film sessions, training sessions,

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<v Speaker 2>or just grabbing him during the game and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're in this situation, check over your left shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>because that's where they're going to try and whatever. And know,

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<v Speaker 2>a Mecca twenty five years old in the national team mix,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's played the second most minutes for the

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<v Speaker 2>field players for US this year. Clearly, our leader, Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>Russell's presence now is going to I think help a

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<v Speaker 2>Mecca accelerate his leadership side of his game and his captaincy.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we wouldn't We wouldn't even be in

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<v Speaker 2>Mecca Ojeda, which I think are one of the better

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, another bright spot I do think has been

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<v Speaker 1>cabral I. Do you know the keeper that Kurt decided

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<v Speaker 1>to bring in. It was It was just difficult last

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<v Speaker 1>year watching Zach, who at times I think stepped in

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<v Speaker 1>here as a veteran and played some really really good soccer,

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<v Speaker 1>looked like it was orange slices and juice boxes. Like

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<v Speaker 1>these mistakes that he was making were just wild and

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<v Speaker 1>I think most people believe gav is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>great once it's fully cooked and he's fully developed. I

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<v Speaker 1>was glad you guys addressed because you needed too. So

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<v Speaker 1>tell us a little bit about this new keeper and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll finish it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, Raphael Cabral is a little older before

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<v Speaker 2>we got Johnny Russell. I think he's our only player

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<v Speaker 2>over the age of thirty. With Zach on the shelf

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<v Speaker 2>rehabbing his shoulder. Cabral won a Copa Bertadores when he

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<v Speaker 2>was young, very prestigious South American competition, won titles with

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<v Speaker 2>Napoli in Italy, played in England at a high level,

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<v Speaker 2>and then played in his home country in Brazil the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years at a very high level. He

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<v Speaker 2>is a consummate leader. He is not a perfectionist, because

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<v Speaker 2>when he is trying to teach people how to learn

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<v Speaker 2>from their mistakes, he's very cognizant about acknowledging his own

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<v Speaker 2>or that he will make some that he's not perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>He loves his family, he loves his faith, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>really been extremely solid. We saw this weekend he's now

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<v Speaker 2>saved two of the four penalty kicks he's faced this year,

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<v Speaker 2>which is big when it seems like there's a game

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<v Speaker 2>changing penalty or vaar call almost every week now, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're lucky to have him. So if we

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<v Speaker 2>get Brian Vera back, you have justin glad healthy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a very good spine. When you can go cabral Vera,

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<v Speaker 2>glad Oheita and Nellie and then Diego Luna at the

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<v Speaker 2>central ten up top, you've got to build around it.

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<v Speaker 2>We need guys to step up around it. Xaviergozo, eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>year old homegrown from Eagle Mountain, is clearly rising to

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<v Speaker 2>the occasion. Hopefully that lights a fire under dom he

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<v Speaker 2>can get back out there. There's a lot of soccer left.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody's together, everybody's optimistic. But we will see

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<v Speaker 2>what moves Kurt and company make this summer port.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna be tuning in to the playoffs tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>because here's where I'm at. I have so much respect

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<v Speaker 1>for Jokic that I'll say, gentlemen, sweep, But do you

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<v Speaker 1>think okay sweeps Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's in five? I think this. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually think this series or five games? It's five games? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Five games? Hey, it's great, doesn't dunk it because he

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<v Speaker 2>shares the ball with a g because it's as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>assists makes two people happy. It's great to see you

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggets and six stop it. See, this is why we

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<v Speaker 2>can't You're going to get a split in Oklahoma City.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to win the two at home, they lose

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<v Speaker 2>one and then they win game.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why we think. This is why we can't

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<v Speaker 1>talk to NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's bet a Black Desert round on this. Seriously, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's bet. Let's bet seventy seventy Let's bet one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to pay for all my golf for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of my life. Let's bet five million dollars right now. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>don't have access to that kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't either, But that's why I'm happy to go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and and lay it down. Look, I'm pulling for your

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<v Speaker 1>guys because I know it makes you happy to see

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<v Speaker 1>Denver win.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you watched okay, so you get all this show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they are impossible, impossible to watch with a shameless grifter

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<v Speaker 2>Alexander shooting twenty five free throws a game or you

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<v Speaker 2>see this, that's all gonna dry up in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why we can't talk NBA when Trace here.

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<v Speaker 2>He he has a small point about the the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that the translation is harder in the playoffs to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the free throw line that much to rely on

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<v Speaker 2>it scratch. But is that gonna play into an account

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<v Speaker 2>against this Denver team? Who do you who do you

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<v Speaker 2>anxiety watch more than any other team? Anxiety watch? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Like when you're what is it RSL? Is it Denver?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm actually I don't have a ton of anxiety

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<v Speaker 2>because I know that Murray or Gordon are gonna you

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<v Speaker 2>know why I done? Never mind, it's probably RSL okay

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<v Speaker 2>still to this day and maybe the you know, there

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<v Speaker 2>were a lot of rough Bronco watches over the last

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<v Speaker 2>eight years. Yeah, yeah, I mean they finally got a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>At least you have some Bob all right. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas coming up this weekend. RSL has been on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>but they will be back home for a Wednesday, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday the fourteenth, at home against Portland, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>head off to Colorado, where I will be at baller,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for Game six as Denver clinches the series

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<v Speaker 2>two nights before RSL.

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<v Speaker 1>You turn, I'm trying to give you guys a little

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<v Speaker 1>love here. Okay, you get back for four or five

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<v Speaker 1>at home in June. Okay, I just feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>club has been on the Road'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Get back for actually, I think it's nine out of

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<v Speaker 2>eleven at home after this long road stretch. Good to

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<v Speaker 2>see you, Thanks for the time, Thanks for having me.
