Speaker 1: You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
Speaker 1: Tonight's story is from a woman named Andrea who's encounters
Speaker 1: with something massive have haunted her for decades, from the
Speaker 1: foggy trails of Salt Fork to the quiet railroad crossings
Speaker 1: of Amish Country. These moments always came in daylight, and
Speaker 1: they always came without warning. And these aren't just campfire stories.
Speaker 1: These are the first hand accounts of Andrea, an Ohio
Speaker 1: woman who saw more than most could believe in their lifetime.
Speaker 1: So stay with us, all right, Big Fort Society. I've
Speaker 1: got the privilege of talking to Andrea today. Andrew's an
Speaker 1: individual I got connected to that is on the show
Speaker 1: to share a few encounters she's had in the great
Speaker 1: state of Ohio. So I'm going to go ahead and
Speaker 1: pass things over to her in a minute. But before
Speaker 1: I do, I want to make sure listeners are aware
Speaker 1: of a new thing I've got. If you go out
Speaker 1: of over to Big for Society podcast dot com, you
Speaker 1: can click on sighting map and you can follow along
Speaker 1: of different locals that we've talked about in episodes. It's
Speaker 1: kind of a cool thing that we're putting into the podcast.
Speaker 1: And Andrea, thank you so much for coming onto the show.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we could have this conversation. How are
Speaker 1: you today?
Speaker 2: Good? Thank you?
Speaker 1: And you doing great? Doing great? Always a good day
Speaker 1: when I'm able to talk to people about what they've experienced.
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure that we, you know,
Speaker 1: make the best of our time together today, Andrea, So
Speaker 1: feel free to take us back to when this all
Speaker 1: first started happening to you and we'll we'll be right
Speaker 1: there with you.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Well, first, I'd like to say that when I was fourteen,
Speaker 3: a man deemed of my parents' house, and I remember
Speaker 3: you told us a story. My dad was a photographer,
Speaker 3: so I do know a lot of people. But yeah,
Speaker 3: this guy was talking about starving twenty one in Maslon
Speaker 3: and he had seen a cigar shaped UFO or craft
Speaker 3: is what he said, and it was following alongside him,
Speaker 3: and he said, quote an ape like man was staring
Speaker 3: back at me. And I didn't think anything of it
Speaker 3: at the time because I'd never This was back in
Speaker 3: the seventies when UFOs were popular.
Speaker 2: And I never really thought.
Speaker 3: About it, and so I just thought that was kind
Speaker 3: of odd.
Speaker 1: Was what was the location? On that again, just to
Speaker 1: make sure.
Speaker 2: I've got it.
Speaker 3: Twenty one in Maslin, Ohio. Twenty one goes north and south.
Speaker 3: It runs in the seventies seven and goes up to Cleveland,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: And so I kind of just liked to have fun
Speaker 3: that I was going to school and traveling, and I
Speaker 3: heard about this this thing that was going on in
Speaker 3: the Senior Center, this bigfoot, this bigfoot talk. I don't know,
Speaker 3: so I thought, well, I'll just go for points. And
Speaker 3: this man Mark A Worth was showing a film and
Speaker 3: I said, Okay, I'll stay around and see what this
Speaker 3: is about. And he was in Will's Creek and it's
Speaker 3: in conshocked and we have the Bigfoot triangle where most
Speaker 3: of the sighting has happened. And I'm watching this film.
Speaker 3: It tells the story of going to Willis Creek with
Speaker 3: a couple other friends and they all kind of go
Speaker 3: off by themselves. He hears this crunching of the you know,
Speaker 3: leaves as he's walking, and he gets real scared and
Speaker 3: he thinks this is at the time there was a
Speaker 3: hunter who was killing other hunters, and so he got
Speaker 3: scared in the and he had got scared and went
Speaker 3: down into the skull you sat on this rock, and
Speaker 3: this was about the time that the video cameras came out,
Speaker 3: so he kind of took it out, and he was
Speaker 3: sitting there and he sees the tree swinging back and forth,
Speaker 3: and he said to himself, you know, there's no wind.
Speaker 3: So he takes the zoom LUNs and he looks and
Speaker 3: he sees this ape like an ape like juvenile looking
Speaker 3: and picking up behind this tree. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: So that's how I got hooked on this this bigfoot thing.
Speaker 3: So I did some you know, research, and and I
Speaker 3: heard that he had this conference down itself Fork State Park.
Speaker 3: So I would go every year and I would either
Speaker 3: sleep in my cars, go camping, or go you know,
Speaker 3: stay in the lodge and and I would always kind
Speaker 3: of listen to what other people say and and try
Speaker 3: try to listen to the stories and and introduce myself.
Speaker 2: So I hear about this guy named Walker.
Speaker 3: Who who had a sighting so and then he had
Speaker 3: a picture on the internet. So I finally found that
Speaker 3: picture and I downloaded it.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to meet this guy.
Speaker 3: So one year I was there and I overheard him
Speaker 3: talking to a couple of girls from Charlotte, Carolina, and
Speaker 3: I asked him, I said, will you take us to
Speaker 3: this place.
Speaker 2: Where you had this fighting?
Speaker 3: And so his story was that a couple of guys
Speaker 3: were doing some fishing on one of the lakes there
Speaker 3: and they saw the male and the female on the beach.
Speaker 3: So they had known it was a shaw this week weekend,
Speaker 3: so they came and told Mark youa, what they saw.
Speaker 3: And Walter, you know, said to his friends, well, why
Speaker 3: don't we go in the morning and and you know,
Speaker 3: just just check out this, uh, you know, where they
Speaker 3: had seen this male and female. So he said, well,
Speaker 3: let's go in the morning around Neil five or six.
Speaker 3: So he gets there and there's nobody there, so he
Speaker 3: figured they either didn't show up or they went with
Speaker 3: that them. So he decides to go anywhere. And he's
Speaker 3: walking and he said it was a little foggy and
Speaker 3: he hears just like talking, but it wasn't like English.
Speaker 3: It was just some kind of chattering. And he looks
Speaker 3: over his shoulder and he goes, hey, guys, wait for me,
Speaker 3: and here it was this male and the female and
Speaker 3: so he starts running and takes his picture. So I
Speaker 3: finally found this picture. But I always wanted to meet
Speaker 3: this guy, and I finally met him, and I asked
Speaker 3: him to take us to this the Shadbush trail, and
Speaker 3: so it was his family and me and this two
Speaker 3: girls and her son daughter. But it all ended up
Speaker 3: that it was just you know, they had left and
Speaker 3: it was just me and Walter and these two girls
Speaker 3: and the two boys. So we're walking and we get
Speaker 3: to this Actually one of the girls whistled and you
Speaker 3: could hear a whistle on one side and then they
Speaker 3: would whistle. She would whistle again, and then on the
Speaker 3: other side you would hear another whistle. But you could
Speaker 3: never see anything. So this whistling would go back and forth.
Speaker 3: So I figured it was the male. I mean, I
Speaker 3: figured it was the the mom and the juvenile this
Speaker 3: plane back and forth, or you know, being Trichters, I guess.
Speaker 3: So we get to the top of the tail and
Speaker 3: I said, well, let's go down this sail. And we
Speaker 3: get to the bottom of it, and Walter says, well,
Speaker 3: the path is not it's kind of it's not safe.
Speaker 3: It's overgrown, and we can't get to the beach this way.
Speaker 3: So you know, we just kind of sat there and
Speaker 3: the kids. The little boy says, oh, I see a
Speaker 3: black arm and uh so, and it's at the top
Speaker 3: of this big hill behind a tree. I said, well,
Speaker 3: let's go up there and we'll find out what's going on.
Speaker 3: So we get up there and there's nothing there that
Speaker 3: you can't see nothing, but you're overlooking everything. So look
Speaker 3: at the trees. There's nothing there, and I just got
Speaker 3: what the heck is going on here? I said, well, here,
Speaker 3: here's some skittles. I'll give you some skittles, and let's
Speaker 3: get the juvenile some skills. So, you know, it was
Speaker 3: kind of a little gifting things. That's what I heard
Speaker 3: that people do. So I just you know, we walked
Speaker 3: down the hill and then I'll go way back. They
Speaker 3: escorted us out of the forest with the whistling hands.
Speaker 3: It was mimicking. So then we see these The little
Speaker 3: boy goes, look, I f on this truck.
Speaker 2: So it was.
Speaker 3: I put a dollar bill down. It was like fifteen
Speaker 3: and a half inches. I figured that was a mom
Speaker 3: and that was only one foot footprint, and then next
Speaker 3: to it was a juvenile. And I didn't even bother
Speaker 3: take a picture of that. He said, it wasn't it
Speaker 3: wasn't you know enough so you could tell it was
Speaker 3: the mom and that you now. So so we got
Speaker 3: escorted it out and then we went to the family
Speaker 3: picnic and that was that. But every year that they went,
Speaker 3: something weird that always happened. And and one of the
Speaker 3: funny things that happened was when I met some guys
Speaker 3: and they were in this vand there were there were
Speaker 3: three of us, and we ended up seeing we were
Speaker 3: going towards the marina and you know how when you're driving.
Speaker 2: You can see.
Speaker 3: You just look at the lights, you know, in the darker,
Speaker 3: and he just placed a fist black in south Forth
Speaker 3: State Park. So he goes, oh my gosh, did you
Speaker 3: see that? And they go and I didn't want to
Speaker 3: sound crazy, so I said, well, what did you see?
Speaker 3: He said he saw a late go yeah, I did too.
Speaker 3: It was like it had crossed in front of us,
Speaker 3: excuse me, and it was going up the bakment.
Speaker 2: So we just caught that, you know, the left leg
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: And I said, so, you know, we stopped the car
Speaker 3: and I sing over the rainbow. I heard the tay
Speaker 3: you know, like music, so you know, I'm saying, but nothing, yeah,
Speaker 3: but nothing ever happened with that. And then we were
Speaker 3: across the uh what is it the Stonehouse trail in
Speaker 3: a parking lot, and and these guys were like talking
Speaker 3: and laughing and and I just kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: listened to they were just having fun, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, you hear this loud, loud grunt and you know,
Speaker 3: what's that, you know, and you know they have tend
Speaker 3: to brush it off, and then it was another grunt again,
Speaker 3: and I go. Somebody said, oh, it sounds like a
Speaker 3: truck that you know, is changing gears. And I said, well,
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any trucks out here, because we're
Speaker 3: trying pretty far out, and and so they kind of
Speaker 3: brush it off and they go back to laughing and stuff,
Speaker 3: and then you hear it again, and I go, you, guys,
Speaker 3: this isn't no truck. And I got scared that they
Speaker 3: all like scattered and went back into the trucks and
Speaker 3: left me there alone, and oh whatever, And so I
Speaker 3: sang over the rainbow and that got real quiet, and
Speaker 3: we had left and so we did kind of were
Speaker 3: on the park and just you know, had fun. And
Speaker 3: you know, it was kind of strange because we went
Speaker 3: over by the cave and across the river you could do.
Speaker 2: I did, was like a fire, and.
Speaker 3: There shouldn't be a fire over by the stone house
Speaker 3: because this is the museum. I thought that was kind
Speaker 3: of odds. A lot of weird things happened over there.
Speaker 3: And so another story was my mom and my granddaughter.
Speaker 3: We were driving to mom's country and they were putting
Speaker 3: in a pipeline at the time, the detours, and we
Speaker 3: finally made the Comas Country, but on the way back
Speaker 3: I got lost. So we came to this railroad track
Speaker 3: and I wanted to teach my granddaughter to prolaby about
Speaker 3: four years old, and my mom had dementia, so I
Speaker 3: just said, you know, okay, let's look to the right.
Speaker 3: I wanted to teach her very from less and so
Speaker 3: I looked to the right and then I said, okay,
Speaker 3: to the left, and there was a tall, brown, skinny,
Speaker 3: very skinny.
Speaker 2: It kind of looked like an.
Speaker 3: S an s her and seeing up, it's like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, you have the beginning.
Speaker 2: It was brown.
Speaker 3: It was crossing the railroad track that was headed from
Speaker 3: north to south. I didn't say anything d anybody for
Speaker 3: the longest time. I ended up filling my granddather later
Speaker 3: and she's like, right now, she's seventeen, and so it's
Speaker 3: been quite a while. And then the third time I
Speaker 3: saw a friend of mine, I wanted to go on
Speaker 3: a sixth nineteen big brother's house. He is up Farner
Speaker 3: and she said, well, do you want to go for
Speaker 3: a ride? And I said, okay, you know, no problem.
Speaker 3: She wanted to give him her her car and he
Speaker 3: had to trust. So he took all these different roads
Speaker 3: to get to his house. And I'm just looking out
Speaker 3: the window, you know, looking at that sea making and
Speaker 3: I see a black tall.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I see a tall, black mascolar and
Speaker 2: he was going to just to go west. Oh, so sorry.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that I saw. I didn't tell anybody.
Speaker 3: And then years later I said, remember we went to
Speaker 3: your brother's thousand She said yeah. I said what roads
Speaker 3: did you take? And she goes, well, why why do
Speaker 3: you want to know? I said, well, I saw a
Speaker 3: big butt and she laughed. She goes, they don't exist. Well,
Speaker 3: so you're calling me a liar, She says, they don't exist.
Speaker 3: I go, well, I know what I saw, and then
Speaker 3: I just shut up after that, and I never said
Speaker 3: anything to anybody else.
Speaker 2: And so everybody thinks I'm crazy. My daughter thinks she is.
Speaker 3: What what do you believe in fairies? And nicorner No,
Speaker 3: and so I kind of just like shut up after that,
Speaker 3: and I I never said anything to anybody. And and uh,
Speaker 3: I was just great for a good man. And I
Speaker 3: frond a good man. And he we've been married for
Speaker 3: one year and they sixteenth and he had gotten a
Speaker 3: job down he got a job up north, and uh, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sorry, you're good.
Speaker 1: Take the time you need.
Speaker 2: That's my granddaughter.
Speaker 3: Anyways, Well he got a job up north and it
Speaker 3: was I think Clinton, Ohio, and he said he was coming.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: That was a little concerning. I hope that individual is okay.
Speaker 1: Sounds like her call was disrupted somehow. Let's see if
Speaker 1: we can call Andrea back.
Speaker 2: Hi, dit Angree is your name in the short message
Speaker 2: in your phone number? I'll call you back bye at
Speaker 2: the tone. Please record your message. When you finished recording,
Speaker 2: you may hang up or press one for more options
Speaker 2: to leave a callback number. Press five.
Speaker 1: Hey, Andrea, this is Jeremiah from Big five Society. Colin youa.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you had some kind of issue and
Speaker 1: then your phone either hung up or got disconnected. I
Speaker 1: hope everything's okay. Feel free to give me a callback
Speaker 1: if you are able to, and maybe we can finish
Speaker 1: our conversation. Thank you. Hi is this Andrea? We are recording?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: So so I want to know if you have any
Speaker 3: you know, assumption or what's the word I'm looking for.
Speaker 3: Do you have any idea why some of us see
Speaker 3: them and some of them don't. And have you seen
Speaker 3: any patterns with the phone calls that you've been getting
Speaker 3: from people?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. We can talk about that
Speaker 1: for a few minutes. So I would say people that
Speaker 1: are more open to things that are out of the
Speaker 1: ordinary might be able to see the patterns. There's also
Speaker 1: people that have sometimes gone through a very traumatic event.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that will be a pattern that I see. They've
Speaker 1: gone through a divorce, or a loved one has passed away,
Speaker 1: or something really intense has happened to them. Then they'll
Speaker 1: end up going out into the woods. They'll have a
Speaker 1: sighting for some reason, there is a connection there. Those
Speaker 1: are the big patterns that I've seen recently. You were
Speaker 1: starting to talk about how your husband had gotten a
Speaker 1: job up north in Clinton, Ohio, and had some kind
Speaker 1: of sighting up there.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and it was and I was curious as
Speaker 3: to you know, you know, I loved going on Google Earth,
Speaker 3: and so I kind of found like, you know, the
Speaker 3: way there, and I drove around and it is, you know,
Speaker 3: full of forest and farmand and this is a meatpacking
Speaker 3: like a slaughterhouse, and just down the road, not even
Speaker 3: like five hundred yards. It was close the Tuscaras River.
Speaker 3: So I could see that, you know that, you know,
Speaker 3: hearing that they follow the rivers, I can see that,
Speaker 3: know how he would have that sighting. But I kind
Speaker 3: of wondered why. You know, maybe it was so that,
Speaker 3: you know, because he doesn't believe either. But I just
Speaker 3: wondered if maybe he was able to see that for
Speaker 3: the reason that maybe did say that I'm not creating
Speaker 3: myself so or to have that experience, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, something to share, I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, but and I and I wondered.
Speaker 3: If people that are very religious maybe perhaps you know,
Speaker 3: I hear a lot that there's you know, the nephlem
Speaker 3: and you know, the fallen angels, and you know, then
Speaker 3: I wondered you know what that guy had said there
Speaker 3: from another universe, And I never wrote back then because
Speaker 3: it kind of shadowed my whole thought that I thought
Speaker 3: we were the apple. God died, but if he created everything,
Speaker 3: then hec and surely, you know, I like the stargaze
Speaker 3: and I've seen you know UFO. It's like a star
Speaker 3: and zig zagged and disappeared. My brother saw a UFO.
Speaker 2: And a lot of.
Speaker 3: Spiritual things have happened to me, like every time I
Speaker 3: lose somebody in the family, they always seem to come back.
Speaker 3: And you know, I I don't know how to say it.
Speaker 1: Uh so it sounds like you have other strange things
Speaker 1: happening besides just having yeah.
Speaker 2: Bigfoot ufo spiritual. Yeah, I say.
Speaker 3: I worked in a nursing home, like a late senior
Speaker 3: care and and people that would die, I would sing
Speaker 3: this over the rainbow I sang in college, and I
Speaker 3: would sing to them before they were dying. And this
Speaker 3: one lady comes down, she's bawling out to the bathroom.
Speaker 3: She's crying, and I was so embarrassed because I didn't
Speaker 3: think there was anybody else in there. But that's dying woman.
Speaker 3: She goes, Oh, that's my mom's favorite song, and so
Speaker 3: she goes, don't stop.
Speaker 2: So I kind of like squeekly, you know, finish the.
Speaker 3: Song, and you know, I said my goodbyes, and and
Speaker 3: then like about three days later, you know, when you're
Speaker 3: sleeping and you're kind of awaken and sleep, I could
Speaker 3: smell this old lady perfume, and I thought, oh, my goodness,
Speaker 3: maybe she's coming to say thank you.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So a lot of people who have come, like I
Speaker 3: would sing to something weird would always happen like after
Speaker 3: they passed away, like they would come back and you know,
Speaker 3: i'd smell perfume.
Speaker 2: Or one time my phone rang and it.
Speaker 3: Was like one of those FlipTop homes and it was
Speaker 3: like it vibrated and.
Speaker 2: Said Linda's mom.
Speaker 3: And that night she passed away, and I said, oh,
Speaker 3: this is this is weird. And the strangest thing that
Speaker 3: happened to me was when my mom.
Speaker 2: Had passed away.
Speaker 3: I was at speedway and I was getting drink and
Speaker 3: it was real messy and I see this young kid
Speaker 3: in the twenties and he's clean, and I said.
Speaker 2: Do you work here? And he goes no. I go, well, that's.
Speaker 3: Really nice of you to clean up passing messy people,
Speaker 3: and he goes, oh, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: he stopped talking to me. He looked at me and
Speaker 3: he said, did your mom just pass away?
Speaker 2: And I kind of was shocked, you know, and I
Speaker 2: looked at him. I go yeah.
Speaker 3: He goes, well, she wasn't ready to go. And I'm
Speaker 3: like an awe, Like, how does he know? You know
Speaker 3: that has just passed away? So he goes, she wasn't
Speaker 3: ready to go. She goes o with the mail and
Speaker 3: your family that could have done more but didn't. And
Speaker 3: then I thought, okay, this is getting really weird because
Speaker 3: I always thought that, you know, maybe my my brother
Speaker 3: should have gotten you know, physical therapy or occupational therapy
Speaker 3: instead of just putting her on hospice.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: Then he said, he goes, your father had the last word,
Speaker 3: and I'm going, my dad, jeez, maybe you know he's
Speaker 3: German and he was always strict, and maybe you know
Speaker 3: that's why she hasn't come back, and you know, let
Speaker 3: me know that everything that's okay. So I just you
Speaker 3: know that just and he goes, well, i'll see you
Speaker 3: in eight more days. Well, of course I never saw
Speaker 3: him eight days. I never made any you know, I
Speaker 3: never thought about it. And then one year we were
Speaker 3: doing a book club. One of the churches came to
Speaker 3: the apartment and did this book club. I think we
Speaker 3: were learning about the Book of Revelation and I told
Speaker 3: them this story and my friend goes, your father in heaven.
Speaker 2: I go what.
Speaker 3: She goes, yeah, your father in heaven has the last word.
Speaker 3: And I'm going, oh, all along he was talking about
Speaker 3: my dad.
Speaker 2: She goes, no, your father.
Speaker 3: In heaven and I go, okay, that that makes more sense.
Speaker 3: Your father in heaven, you know, had the last word.
Speaker 3: So it was my mom's turn to past time to pass.
Speaker 3: So I think I lost both my sisters, and I
Speaker 3: was able to have some contact with them, and and
Speaker 3: people that I sang to, you know, and passed away,
Speaker 3: I've always you know, had either.
Speaker 2: A smell or.
Speaker 3: You know, something that showed me that they, you know,
Speaker 3: were okay or thank you. So those are my stories
Speaker 3: and and for anybody who was listening, I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know, if they come from another universe or but
Speaker 3: I know that you know their their dimensional and the
Speaker 3: dimensional or you know. I was never able to see them,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if they stepped through portals or
Speaker 3: or what. But I got one more stories and this
Speaker 3: was also itself work. I'm sorry, I totally forgot.
Speaker 2: One year.
Speaker 3: One year I was they had the people from Finding
Speaker 3: Because and they had something going on with Bubbo and.
Speaker 2: Clip Cleft and it was.
Speaker 3: Some kind of game. We were pointing in the bar
Speaker 3: and I met some guy and I don't know. I
Speaker 3: told him I was sleeping in my car. He goes, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: he goes, you could sleep with me. This was Saturday
Speaker 3: night and then Sunday was the family picnic. He goes, no,
Speaker 3: you stay in the bunk bed and I'll sleep.
Speaker 2: In the room.
Speaker 3: And he took me out to dinner. I found out
Speaker 3: his name, and so he said, just in the morning,
Speaker 3: I needed to take the key. You know how you
Speaker 3: have to have a kid to.
Speaker 2: Get in the door.
Speaker 3: And he goes, I needed to take that back by
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock. So I go, okay, that's no problem. So
Speaker 3: so that morning I had breakfast and cleaned up, and
Speaker 3: so I go to drive up to the lodge and
Speaker 3: I see the bus was there that has you know
Speaker 3: Bob Goodman that was there. And so you know, they
Speaker 3: always have a you know, a group of people there.
Speaker 3: Speak Meldron was there, Doctor Meldrom. And I saw the
Speaker 3: bus there. I ran in and I gave him the
Speaker 3: key and I came out. The bus was gone, and
Speaker 3: I'm driving down to the family picnic and I look
Speaker 3: over to the right and this is like, I don't
Speaker 3: know if it was the beginning of the end of
Speaker 3: the Shedowish trail, but a tall black I assume.
Speaker 2: It was the dad with tall black. It was Harry,
Speaker 2: of course. But the odd thing was is that it.
Speaker 3: Was standing there looking down, and it was swinging back
Speaker 3: and forth, and it was kind of turned to the side,
Speaker 3: and it looked like it was looking for something, And well,
Speaker 3: what the heck is that? So now my door, I
Speaker 3: had my camera and my dad's binoculars in the car.
Speaker 3: I stopped the car, I pulled it over. I get
Speaker 3: out of the car and start walking over to it.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know what I was going to do
Speaker 3: once I got there, but I know that I had
Speaker 3: to look at my feet because I was afraid I
Speaker 3: would like twist and you know, fall on a hole
Speaker 3: or something. So I'm looking at my feet and I'm
Speaker 3: walking over straight towards this b black thing, and once
Speaker 3: I get there, it's gone, and I'm going, okay, this
Speaker 3: is is goofy, because you know, I know what I saw.
Speaker 3: So I look around and I see this this deer path,
Speaker 3: you know how it's a straight line, and I and
Speaker 3: I looked at the big mop pedal and there's like
Speaker 3: deer prints and like horse prints shoes, boots, but I
Speaker 3: don't see any big footprints, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I'm stretching my head and I walk down to
Speaker 3: the lake and I do a woolf because I heard
Speaker 3: that's what they do wolf and I get a reached
Speaker 3: once I thought, okay, I can't really, you know, think
Speaker 3: too much about that because it's Bigfoot weekend. And so
Speaker 3: I come back and I put some skills out and
Speaker 3: I was going to sing over the rainbow, but somebody
Speaker 3: was doing some mushroom hunting and I thought, no, I
Speaker 3: really looked stupid dem So I just kind of like
Speaker 3: looked around again, and I saw that there was a
Speaker 3: tree branch that was about three inch in diameter that
Speaker 3: was broken, and I thought, okay, that's.
Speaker 2: Kind of odd.
Speaker 3: The only thing I heard was that that that was
Speaker 3: don't follow me, That's what I thought. So I kind
Speaker 3: of stood there and I figured that it was probably.
Speaker 2: Looking for dinner.
Speaker 3: Now this was about twelve. The party, the family peaking
Speaker 3: has started at twelve, so this was daytime. Everything I
Speaker 3: saw something was at daytime. I didn't go out looking
Speaker 3: for anything. It just was my chance. So I still
Speaker 3: scratched my head and wondering where it went. Now, none
Speaker 3: of the vegetation was disturbed. Okay, So in the meantime,
Speaker 3: I'm still I'm listening to the podcast because my husband.
Speaker 2: You know, speaks Spanish.
Speaker 3: She likes to listen to movies in Spanish. So I started,
Speaker 3: I got from.
Speaker 2: Their pods and I started listening to the podcast, and.
Speaker 3: I heard this story about this woman in Lima, Ohio,
Speaker 3: and she's hunting and her husband a doctor, and she's
Speaker 3: near I don't know, have you heard this story about Lama,
Speaker 3: Ohio And she Sarah rap or something.
Speaker 2: She sees something going from the tree to tree.
Speaker 3: So she takes a picture of herself and the picture
Speaker 3: of this thing. But if you look it up and
Speaker 3: put Lamma Ohio Bigfoot on the on, you google it
Speaker 3: and it comes up on YouTube. And I guess one
Speaker 3: of her grandsons or somebody was in the band at
Speaker 3: the high school which was nearby, and she could hear
Speaker 3: the band playing, and somehow they know connected the fact
Speaker 3: that they saw a UFO or something above the tree
Speaker 3: line where she had been hunting, and it was approximately
Speaker 3: the same time.
Speaker 1: I do have a few questions for you, just to
Speaker 1: clarify some of the things that you've shared. If that's
Speaker 1: all right, no problem, awesome. So the first account where
Speaker 1: you were going up with Walter and the two girls,
Speaker 1: was that around a certain part of Salt Fork.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was if you go behind the you know,
Speaker 3: if you go to the camping and then when you
Speaker 3: check in to go camping, to the right there's a
Speaker 3: playground and behind the playground there's a sad bush trail.
Speaker 3: And I always thought it was weird because the other
Speaker 3: siding I.
Speaker 2: Had of the dad was and the other side was
Speaker 2: which was I don't know what.
Speaker 3: That's the the road where you go to the lodge
Speaker 3: that I don't know, which was the beginning of the end.
Speaker 3: But I thought it was weird that the dad was
Speaker 3: at one end and the mom and the JUGI down
Speaker 3: were at the other end.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't know if it's a
Speaker 2: popular place for.
Speaker 3: That whole place is weird. But that that that was
Speaker 3: the Shadbush trail behind that playground there, gotcha.
Speaker 1: So the Shadbush Trail, which is looks like a seven
Speaker 1: mile trail and Salt Fork. Both of your sightings happened
Speaker 1: on that trail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one was at one end and the other was at
Speaker 2: the other end.
Speaker 1: Interesting, what year was that? Approximately? Was that when you
Speaker 1: were when you went out with Walter?
Speaker 2: Honest to god, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: No problem.
Speaker 2: Every year I would go.
Speaker 3: To South Ark and the time I stopped was probably
Speaker 3: around Covid Okay, and I didn't think they.
Speaker 2: Would have it, and then they ended up having it.
Speaker 2: But so I just went this year.
Speaker 3: It's always the first weekend of May, and I went
Speaker 3: this year and I took a friend and we went
Speaker 3: on a Sunday because it was less expensive and it
Speaker 3: was only like twenty bucks. So we went and nothing happened.
Speaker 3: We went to all the different sites and I showed
Speaker 3: her around and we did some would knock, but we
Speaker 3: went to the cemetery and nothing, nothing spectacular happened.
Speaker 2: And I you know what the speakers are with that,
Speaker 2: but you know whatever.
Speaker 3: So so this year, with the last time you know,
Speaker 3: next year it'll be the same thing. You know.
Speaker 2: I think you've been to some confernative for right. I have.
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to get out to Salt Fork yet.
Speaker 1: Someday I definitely hope to do that. So the story
Speaker 1: you shared where you were out with the gentleman around
Speaker 1: the stone House trail and then so they left you
Speaker 1: alone there and then you started seeing over the rainbow,
Speaker 1: is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 3: I was with a couple of guys, you know, in
Speaker 3: a van, and then but then there's other people that
Speaker 3: sit there and park. You know, they just sleep somewhere,
Speaker 3: you know, instead of paying, you know, to go to
Speaker 3: lodge or whatever, they'll sleep in their car. So he yeah,
Speaker 3: and we were all just standing there talking, but you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know anybody for taste, so I just kind
Speaker 3: of was throw quiet, and then that grunting started happening,
Speaker 3: and then you know, they just kept you know, we
Speaker 3: just kind of like, you know, I don't know how
Speaker 3: you poop poop poop pooed it. And then when we
Speaker 3: realized that, you know, there's no trucks around here, so
Speaker 3: I'm thinking it was the dad, you know, trying to
Speaker 3: get him to shut out, you know, so, but that
Speaker 3: was pretty funny. So, and I always sing to them,
Speaker 3: and so, you know, I just thought that was a
Speaker 3: funny story.
Speaker 1: That is a funny story. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: so funny that they just left you there, but thankfully.
Speaker 3: No, I just know that I don't think that they
Speaker 3: hurt I don't think that it if you believe in God,
Speaker 3: I don't believe that they can hurt you.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid because you know, I just know that
Speaker 3: if you have the armor of God on you that
Speaker 3: I just don't think they can hurt you.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, you know.
Speaker 1: So, and that's very interesting. A few listeners are going
Speaker 1: to be completely confused. But so you're saying that in essence,
Speaker 1: you have spiritual protection from them because you have the
Speaker 1: armor of God or spiritual armor.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 3: I don't know for they if they, you know, they
Speaker 3: have anything that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they are, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a punishment from God that
Speaker 3: they you know, we're falling angels, I don't know, or
Speaker 3: if they're from another planet what they're doing here. But
Speaker 3: I don't know why people are going out and looking
Speaker 3: for them. You know what I'm saying, I don't understand.
Speaker 3: And what I hear is that some are nice and
Speaker 3: some are not. And you know, I would assume that
Speaker 3: if they have you know, human DNA somehow attached to them,
Speaker 3: you know, they're not they're not They're not descent with
Speaker 3: the you know, the whole concept of you know, being
Speaker 3: a what's the.
Speaker 2: Word, you know, a descendant of the humor.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, it's it's a very interesting theory. If
Speaker 1: people want to read more, they can get a Bible
Speaker 1: and read Ephesian six is the chapter that talks about
Speaker 1: the armor of God. So there's there's that a few
Speaker 1: more questions for you as well. When you were talking
Speaker 1: about the siting by the train tracks in Amish Country,
Speaker 1: do you remember a year for that or if it
Speaker 1: was in a certain county or area that that happened. Andrea?
Speaker 2: Are you there? Uh?
Speaker 1: Oh, it sounds like she's gone Hello Andrea. That's weird.
Speaker 1: The cost says, it's still going on my side. Maybe
Speaker 1: I just can't hear her. I'm gonna try to call
Speaker 1: her back real quick. Hello, Hey, Andrea, we are recording.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that as weird. We got all our call
Speaker 1: got all messed up when we start talking about Bible stuff.
Speaker 1: Who knew? Right, I'm gonna start continue with my question here,
Speaker 1: just in case you isn't here. You're you're citing by
Speaker 1: the railroad tracks in Amish Country or a roundabouts there.
Speaker 1: Did that happen a certain year or was that in
Speaker 1: a certain county or area You might be able to provide.
Speaker 3: I don't remember the year, but it was summer and
Speaker 3: I was with my mom and my granddaughter and like
Speaker 3: I said, they were doing I'm thinking it was Brewster.
Speaker 2: I got lost and we came to these railroad tracks.
Speaker 2: But when I Google earthed.
Speaker 3: It, it looks like it's near it is a wildlife
Speaker 3: preserved And there's another place that I think my grandson
Speaker 3: went to. It was, oh, there's a waterfalls there, and
Speaker 3: I can't remember the name of the place, but it
Speaker 3: seems like it would be like possible that it was
Speaker 3: like headed that way.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense, Yeah, sure, so over by Brewster, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, uh huh okay, thank you.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 1: The last question I have, so you had the first
Speaker 1: time our call got messed up, you were starting to
Speaker 1: talk about how your husband had has sighting up in
Speaker 1: Clinton area. Yeah, would you be able to share did
Speaker 1: he share any details with you about what was happening
Speaker 1: when he saw or what it looked like anything like that?
Speaker 3: As so funny you should say that. I just asked him,
Speaker 3: I said, well, did you take a picture? He said,
Speaker 3: I was driving and I was scared, and I just laughed.
Speaker 3: And that sounds like him because he's real particular about,
Speaker 3: you know, being uh attentive to driving, and so.
Speaker 2: He didn't. He didn't. I just know that when I
Speaker 2: went there, it was heavily wooded. It was with a.
Speaker 3: Testars whatever, and the slaughterhouse was kind of out, kind
Speaker 3: of out like not towards you know, it was like farmland,
Speaker 3: so the houses were fewn far between. So it's interesting,
Speaker 3: But I don't remember like years. And everything was during
Speaker 3: like this summer or the you know, April May.
Speaker 2: You know fall time is you know when I go.
Speaker 3: Down to you know, almost country, So everything was not
Speaker 3: like the winter's absolutely it was. So when you when
Speaker 3: you go to these different places, do you actually go
Speaker 3: out and go looking for them? I mean, have you
Speaker 3: had any experiences that you could share so you know.
Speaker 1: It it It all depends on what kind of conference
Speaker 1: it is that you go to. Not all bigfoot conferences
Speaker 1: are the same. Sometimes they happen in bigger cities where
Speaker 1: you just don't have access to areas. But like when
Speaker 1: I go to the Oregon Festival Sasquatch Summerfest, it's right
Speaker 1: there and the woods are literally right there, and you
Speaker 1: can just you know. I usually team up with some
Speaker 1: of the locals and they take me up to a
Speaker 1: spot that they've been researching. You know, we've been up
Speaker 1: in that area. We've been roared and screamed at. I've
Speaker 1: heard wood knocks, We've had mimic noises so kind of
Speaker 1: fake bird noises, and people in the group will be
Speaker 1: able to communicate back and forth. It's very very strange experience.
Speaker 1: We found tracks, very large tracks up there. The ones
Speaker 1: I found were about sixteen seventeen inches. The big guy,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no out there, I mean they're finding them
Speaker 1: as big as twenty three inches. So yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: mess around out in the Pacific Northwest, for sure. But
Speaker 1: it was so there are times when I've been able
Speaker 1: to go out and had some really interesting things. I
Speaker 1: have not had a visual sighting yet. Hopefully you know,
Speaker 1: maybe someday in the future that'll happen. But I have
Speaker 1: had some really really cool things happenings happened over the years,
Speaker 1: So thank you for asking, But you.
Speaker 3: Know, I was you know, I want to ask you,
Speaker 3: was that when people take a picture and they always
Speaker 3: make fun of it and say, oh, another blurry picture
Speaker 3: of bigfoot? Do you think that because they are in
Speaker 3: a dimensional or you know, or I don't know, what
Speaker 3: are your.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on that? Why everything turns out glory?
Speaker 1: You know, it's an interesting question, and it's one of
Speaker 1: those where I can go off of different things I've
Speaker 1: been told from witnesses, and I've been told some really
Speaker 1: interesting things. Probably the number one that comes to mind
Speaker 1: is an individual from Pennsylvania where they actually were having
Speaker 1: a visual sighting of a bigfoot and they were holding
Speaker 1: a handheld video camera at the same time, and they
Speaker 1: were looking at the bigfoot and it looked crystal clear,
Speaker 1: sharp defined. They looked down at the video camera that's
Speaker 1: filming it, it looks completely blurry. And that's one of
Speaker 1: the weirdest things I've heard. But you know, there's no
Speaker 1: explanation as to why. I mean, some people think maybe
Speaker 1: it's something to do with a frequency that it has
Speaker 1: or the hairs vibrating. It doesn't make sense, right, but
Speaker 1: yet we keep seeing blurry photos, blurry videos, and why
Speaker 1: is it. There's a lot of really interesting theories about that.
Speaker 1: Some people think that, you know, we can have different
Speaker 1: different individuals, different creatures, have different frequencies, and perhaps if
Speaker 1: they're at a higher frequency than we are, then we're
Speaker 1: not able to capture them or to see them. It's
Speaker 1: a thing where that is way out of my pay
Speaker 1: grade or understanding at this time. But doctor Simon Heine
Speaker 1: is a really cool guy to look into who can
Speaker 1: explain it really well? What's the name doctor Simeon hem
Speaker 1: If you look up the Flash of Beauty YouTube channel,
Speaker 1: he's got a few interviews on there that are really good.
Speaker 1: So he's a good guy.
Speaker 2: How are you saying his last name? Thanks? H e
Speaker 2: I m okay, but hein.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Andrea, it has been a pleasure chatting with you
Speaker 1: today and you had you had a lot of really
Speaker 1: good questions as well. Uh, if you ever come across
Speaker 1: anything else in the future, if you have anything happen,
Speaker 1: feel free to reach out. I'd love to hear from
Speaker 1: you again. But thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 1: the show today.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for the information that you gave me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely appreciate that you have a great rest of your day. Ma'am,
Speaker 1: thank you again for hanging out.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, have a good day.
Speaker 1: Hi, just want to take a minute say thank you
Speaker 1: for listening to this episode of The Bigot Society podcast.
Speaker 1: Andrea's encounters stick with you because of the strange whistles
Speaker 1: in the shadows in the trees, but also because of
Speaker 1: how close she came to something she could never quite explain.
Speaker 1: So huge thanks to Andrea for coming on record about
Speaker 1: her accounts from the Salt Fork area and beyond, and
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