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<v Speaker 1>Karen. Yes, you know how I'm always telling you that

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<v Speaker 1>I really need to meditate more. Yes, and it's usually

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<v Speaker 1>right after I've had my third cup of coffee of

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<v Speaker 1>the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's right after, like you go to bed at night,

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<v Speaker 2>when it's too late to meditate for the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying, I tell you that right after I go

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<v Speaker 1>to bed at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I always say go to sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, go to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, make me awake in bed. Well, I think today's

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<v Speaker 1>guests might actually be able to finally get me to

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<v Speaker 1>stick to a meditation routine.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, then that means there's hope for me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure about that. But you see, our guest

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<v Speaker 1>this week is a licensed clinical social worker with over

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years of experience. But here's a kicker. She's

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<v Speaker 1>on a mission to get everyone in the world to

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<v Speaker 1>meditate and actually enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a mission impossible?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? In the edit, I'm going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to put in the mission. With so many meditation teachers

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<v Speaker 1>out there are so super chill and relaxed, this week's

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<v Speaker 1>guests may not be the person you would usually associate

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<v Speaker 1>with meditation.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, see, she's got this super engaging, no nonsense and

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<v Speaker 1>often hilarious way of teaching people how to meditate. And

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<v Speaker 1>she says, there's nothing better for you except maybe water. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know I hate water.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you feel like you're drowning when you drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, have you been having a difficult time sticking to

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<v Speaker 1>a meditation routine, then this might just be the episode

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<v Speaker 1>you've been waiting for. Because once this episode is done,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna want to run to your couch, your matt,

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<v Speaker 1>your chair, definitely, though not your bed. We'll explain that why,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can start your practice right away. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a skeptic metaphysicians. My name is Will and I'mars,

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<v Speaker 1>and unlike moulderin Scully, we both want to believe. So

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<v Speaker 1>we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and

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<v Speaker 2>metaphysical world.

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<v Speaker 1>We've thrown ourselves to weird and wonderful experiences. I even

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<v Speaker 1>joined a coven of.

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<v Speaker 2>Witches and wait, you joined a coven yep.

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<v Speaker 1>All the interests of finding something, anything that will prove

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<v Speaker 1>that there's something beyond this physical.

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<v Speaker 2>Three dimensional world we all live in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the skeptic medsians. Hey there, I'm Will and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm caring, and today we got one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>delightful personalities you'll ever get the chance to meet on

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<v Speaker 1>our show. As a licensed clinical social worker, she's got

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<v Speaker 1>over twenty five years of experience and has provided counseling, coaching, workshops,

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<v Speaker 1>hypnotherapy and meditation classes and retreats as part of her

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<v Speaker 1>own private psychotherapy practice for the past seventeen years now.

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<v Speaker 1>She believes that meditation is key to healthy living, so

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<v Speaker 1>her mission is to teach as many people as possible

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<v Speaker 1>not only how to meditate, but how to make it

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<v Speaker 1>a habit asks a lifetime.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the key.

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<v Speaker 1>In a straightforward, no nonsense, highly engaging, in often humorous way,

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<v Speaker 1>She's taught thousands of people how to meditate and keep

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<v Speaker 1>meditating day in and day out. There is hope for

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<v Speaker 1>both of us. Karen, Welcome to the show. V Stress

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<v Speaker 1>therapists herself, Sherry Flake. Sherry, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? That? Wow, I'm doing great. How y'all do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Sherry? You are are obi Wan, You're last best hope.

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<v Speaker 1>We are terrible at We love meditating. Yeah, we don't know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we do love meditating. But we can't keep it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so hard, right, I know, So help us, obi wan,

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<v Speaker 1>how can we maintain meditation practice?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? I have about a thousand ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well we only got a well got about forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk fast, Okay, I'll bring up the most important ones. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So first off, the thing that's well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we all know, nothing magical happens on January first, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I often get called on these TV shows to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about healthy habits, you know, during the you know, New Year,

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<v Speaker 3>and how to make habits stick and that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I did do that for a good long time,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and until I realized that the only habit

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<v Speaker 3>we really need is to meditate every day. If we

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<v Speaker 3>can swing that, then you know, life just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>falls into place. And so when I watched this with

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<v Speaker 3>my clients, I was like, oh my gosh, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>just be teaching how to make running a habit. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't just be teaching how to eat carrots instead a

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<v Speaker 3>birthday cake at the birthday party, Like I need to

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<v Speaker 3>teach meditation all the time. And then those things kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fall into place. And one of the coolest things

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<v Speaker 3>about meditation is that. I mean, first of all, come on,

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<v Speaker 3>like all the habits were supposed to be doing. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was listening to a comic the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember who it was, but he said something

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<v Speaker 3>like I feel like a babysit myself all day, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm supposed to drink this, I'm supposed to take that vitamin,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm so simp going wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't beat you sit myself at.

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<v Speaker 3>All at all. Like we're not very very good at

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<v Speaker 3>the regular habits right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm don feeling very good bigby sitting right.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Like meditation show is extra hard because we're taking

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<v Speaker 3>our ego out of it, Okay. And so if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to, like say I I mean, back in the

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<v Speaker 3>day when it was popular to have like a popular

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<v Speaker 3>YouTube video, it was a different definition, but my most

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<v Speaker 3>popular one was how to make running a habit? And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a runner. My man's a runner. There's tons

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<v Speaker 3>of runners out there, and I just kept seeing people

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<v Speaker 3>over and over, you know, talk about it. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to make running a habit, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>can use your ego to get your ass out there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like you can be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get new shoes, I'm gonna buy a new

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<v Speaker 3>T shirt. I'm gonna know my neighbors. I'm gonna lose weight,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna bring my dogs. It's gonna be so. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be so man. I mean, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>more with nature. I mean, there's a million ways to

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<v Speaker 3>bring your ego into it. Because remember, our ego identity

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<v Speaker 3>is just who we think we are, right, how we identify,

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<v Speaker 3>how we would explain who we are when we go

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<v Speaker 3>to meditate. We don't get to use that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're pushing that away, and so our egos get

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit louder at first. Now I will say

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<v Speaker 3>that a long time ago, I'm just like you man,

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<v Speaker 3>like that. That's why I can teach people how to

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<v Speaker 3>do this, because I was like, what have you seen me?

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<v Speaker 3>I spin like a top like this is me, This

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<v Speaker 3>is me on meditation, you know what I'm saying. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was like a total complete mess. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like an impulsive mess. And I did talk to

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<v Speaker 3>a month years ago who said, you know, Sherry, you

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<v Speaker 3>are gonna look to your cushion one day and with

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<v Speaker 3>joy and anticipation. I was like, yeah, right, I did

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<v Speaker 3>not believe that, but it's actually true if you can

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<v Speaker 3>trick your brain into thinking that you're not meditating, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you can understand what's going on with your ego,

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<v Speaker 3>and the coolest thing about meditation is the more you

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<v Speaker 3>do it, the more where you're able to separate yourself

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<v Speaker 3>right from the listener, right the actual because there's not

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<v Speaker 3>one of you, there are two of you. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't believe me, have you ever been mad at yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever been in an argument with yourself? There

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<v Speaker 3>has to be two of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Full disclosure, I'm a Gemini. There's many of me.

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<v Speaker 3>Pro'bly like four. Okay. When you said it in like water,

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<v Speaker 3>like water and sheese a pisces. It's really weird. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if you learn a couple of tricks to get the

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<v Speaker 3>upper hand on your ego, then it becomes like any

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<v Speaker 3>other habit. Where is you're just trying to make it normal, right,

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<v Speaker 3>You're just trying to make it normal right now. The

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<v Speaker 3>number one reason why meditation is not regular something that

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<v Speaker 3>you do every single day without stress, procrastination or excuses

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<v Speaker 3>is because it's negotiable. Okay, if it's like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a parent, so in you guys are parents. Remember

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<v Speaker 3>when your kid was like I don't want to wear

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<v Speaker 3>a seatbelt. You were like, too bad, Like this is

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening, Like it's not negotiable, right, But then when

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<v Speaker 3>broccoli came around, you were like, well it became negotiable,

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<v Speaker 3>and then broccli was out of the picture, was over.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean. Because you're allowing it to

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<v Speaker 3>be negotiable. It's something that you're kind of planning on doing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and so there's a there's a million points

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<v Speaker 3>to it. So it's kind of like, let's say that

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna come to my birthday party, okay, and on

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have cake, Okay, I'm gonna. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what I say to myself. I'm gonna have cake.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. I used to have a birthday cake problem.

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<v Speaker 3>I get That's why I'm using example. I'm just like you, man,

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<v Speaker 3>if you are sitting there going there's no way I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be able to meditate every single day for the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of my bla blah blah blah. I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 3>that was me. Okay. I was in a change your

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<v Speaker 3>die situation. Though I was like the most unhealthy person

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<v Speaker 3>in the all world. I had to figure something out, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had to figure out how to do it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm with you. If you're like birthday cake,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it, Okay. But if you say to yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>I am not having birthday cake and you tell Karen

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having birthday cake, Careen, Oh yes, I'm here for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you have to You're not gonna have birthday cake.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean, You're not gonna have it.

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<v Speaker 3>And Plus, when people talk about meditating, they're like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if I could make one billboard, it was

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<v Speaker 3>really cool Atlanta tude. For a long time I had

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<v Speaker 3>a billboard. It was the coolest. Just said stressed and like,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was busy anyway. But if I can

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<v Speaker 3>have one billboard out there in the beautiful I live

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<v Speaker 3>in Atlanta, it would just say if you would like

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<v Speaker 3>to change something about yourself, anything, it doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 3>it is. You have to feel good about it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're way too obsessed with feeling bad about what we're

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<v Speaker 3>not working on, about bad about what we're not doing about,

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<v Speaker 3>bad about what we should do, shooting on ourselves all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, rather than feeling good about what we're working on.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where it is. That's it. There's no everyone's trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get to some magical finish line. That's not it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the journey. There's no way to happen is

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<v Speaker 3>you're on the journey to it. I meaness is the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Like so it sounds cheesy, but I'm just saying, so

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<v Speaker 3>how do you get started?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I I love meditating. I want to sit there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I still just don't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So a couple points there. The reason why I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Anthony, he is a super badass. He's at workout

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<v Speaker 3>anytime in Atlanta. But anyway, that's why he's there. So

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<v Speaker 3>the accountability again is there. And there there's a mind

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever where you already pay you took someone's spot.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that app knows what time it is according

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<v Speaker 3>like like all of us that work in this business,

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<v Speaker 3>rise p meditate. Okay, it's not rise pee, look at

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<v Speaker 3>your phone, let the dogs out, make a cup of coffee,

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<v Speaker 3>read the paper, and maybe that meditation thing will happen later.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll come back. It's rise pe meditate, rise pe meditate.

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<v Speaker 3>And everybody wants to tell me why they can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it has to order, right, because otherwise, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to pee, rise.

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<v Speaker 3>And meditate or right. That's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds great. However, here's the thing, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>So many things. I get it right, call me lots.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many things I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We are so sleep deprived. So we rise, pee, meditate

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<v Speaker 1>very succinctly fall right the flip to sleep right. So

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<v Speaker 1>I need to rise, pee, take a shower, shave, get dressed,

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<v Speaker 1>sit down, take the kid to the school, come back,

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<v Speaker 1>finish my email, finish my coffee. Then meditate and then

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<v Speaker 3>I know you can't. That's not going to work. But

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<v Speaker 3>imagine if you just woke up five minutes earlier and

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<v Speaker 3>those things. See, one of the things is is that

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<v Speaker 3>when we meditate, we are trying to move our brain

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<v Speaker 3>waves into a different state without falling asleep. So meditation,

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<v Speaker 3>like Sherry Flake graduate school to meditate. Okay, that's like

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<v Speaker 3>advanced tep of shit. Okay, if you're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>if you're new to meditation, you have to rise, get

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<v Speaker 3>out of bed, okay, and then pee and not do

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<v Speaker 3>anything else. Wait wait, wait, wait, even if you're sleepy,

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<v Speaker 3>here's the thing with meditation. If you don't do it

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully sex, you don't want to fall asleep there. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Your brain will move into these other alpha waves and

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<v Speaker 3>then be like oh this, I know this. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>Got it. But I got to clarify something.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you suggesting you meditate on the toilet?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because you know I didn't get that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's why I need to defend myself. Our bedroom. When

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<v Speaker 1>you get up and you go pee, you it's the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom is right in the bedroom. There's wheel chairs. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no other place to meditate than the bed or the john.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's one or the other unless you go downstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that point I may as well make a coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, So here's the thing. You're gonna need to

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<v Speaker 3>that Monk told me that I would love and I

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<v Speaker 3>all that. Oh she said I would look to the

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<v Speaker 3>cushion like I was greeting an old friend. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna be doing that, but I definitely do

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<v Speaker 3>that now I can't. I really have to hand it

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<v Speaker 3>to her. Really, what I do is I rise pee.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm avy at sherry Flake School, so I do brush

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<v Speaker 3>my chumps, then meditate because otherwise I think about my

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<v Speaker 3>teeth all day. But you start with rise pea meditate.

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<v Speaker 3>That's you. That's where you, that's where you live, your

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<v Speaker 3>rise p meditate. So what you want to do is

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<v Speaker 3>you have to have a designated spot, so your brain

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<v Speaker 3>associates that spot with sitting quietly.

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<v Speaker 1>But that spot is downstairs, right next to the coffee pot.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to have to resist the temptation to make coffee,

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<v Speaker 3>rise pee and go right to that room. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>have a pet?

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<v Speaker 1>We do, Yeah, we got a dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. What's really nice is your pet is going to

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<v Speaker 3>pick up on meditation habit way faster than you. So

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<v Speaker 3>what I noticed was my dogs would lead me into

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<v Speaker 3>the meditations because I could go straight for the coffee, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know if you guys want me on

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<v Speaker 3>coffee all out the experience. Okay, I can go straight

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<v Speaker 3>to the coffee, or I can go right, and they

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<v Speaker 3>always go right, and they sit on the cushions and

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<v Speaker 3>they wait for me to sit down, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>each give them something to chew, and I'm already sitting

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<v Speaker 3>in the space, and then my brain's like I get

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<v Speaker 3>to sit here because it's a big present for yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason why it's tough is because, a it's negotiable.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you're like, well, I can meditate today, I

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<v Speaker 3>can meditate tomorrow, I can meditate whatever. But once you

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<v Speaker 3>start to really like look at like, do yourself this

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful favor. I used to give this talk before COVID

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<v Speaker 3>to the National Association of Social Workers every year about

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<v Speaker 3>meditation and its benefits. And it took me like an

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<v Speaker 3>hour and twenty minute talk to talk about the clinical

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<v Speaker 3>benefits that had been proven one hundred years ago now right,

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<v Speaker 3>that meditation was helpful for physical symptoms, you know, physiological symptoms, psychiatric,

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<v Speaker 3>all these things. And once you kind of pick one,

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<v Speaker 3>like let's see, yours is going to be I want

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<v Speaker 3>to lower my blood pressure, right, or I want to

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<v Speaker 3>eat more mindfully, or I wanna be calmer or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is. Okay, whatever it is, So I get this.

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<v Speaker 3>I get this gig to go to the middle school

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<v Speaker 3>and talk about meditation. And I'm like, there's one thing

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<v Speaker 3>you can do. And people who do this thing after

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<v Speaker 3>three weeks, only three weeks of doing it every single day,

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<v Speaker 3>they're better at sports. They learn faster and quicker, they're

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<v Speaker 3>more sociable, they're happier, they're calmer, they have better attention skills,

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<v Speaker 3>they're more focused. So I start naming all these things, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and everybody likes the better at sports one because they're

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<v Speaker 3>in middle school, right, And I'm going on and on

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<v Speaker 3>and on, and then I said it begins with m

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<v Speaker 3>I was out of middle school. I mean, they all

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<v Speaker 3>came in. I know Karen's with me. Maybe you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want that story in there. I'm just saying, what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Good god?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I don't even know you. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, like marijuana. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>All the boys are like masturbation. I was like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>that's terrible. And then there was a little boy out

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<v Speaker 3>there who was like twelve years old and he's meditated

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<v Speaker 3>with me a thousand times. His parents are big meditators.

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<v Speaker 3>They come on retreats. And he said, no, it's meditation.

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<v Speaker 3>So it has a happy ending.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, yes, it does.

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<v Speaker 3>A terrible Okay, can you have a dirty mind and

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<v Speaker 3>still meditate? Yes, because once you start looking at all

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<v Speaker 3>of these benefits, whatever it is, the one that you pick,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it is, the one you pick, you will magically

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<v Speaker 3>get that benefit if you start meditating. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's unbelievable, but you will also get a benefit that

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<v Speaker 3>I could that no one can predict, like if you

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<v Speaker 3>really do decide that you're going to do it every

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<v Speaker 3>single day, like brushing your chumps. I mean, nobody says

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<v Speaker 3>to me, I'll have time to rush my chumps, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, come on, it's not negotiable. You're brushing your chomps.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you miss a day, fine. I mean, these

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<v Speaker 3>people are like, I haven't missed a day in twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, whatever, it's usually a man, and there's usually

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<v Speaker 3>a woman behind that man, but it's never a woman

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<v Speaker 3>saying man. Okay, I'm just throwing that out there. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>side note, you know there are these people who say,

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't missed a day of meditation or twenty It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter if you miss a day. Have you missed

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<v Speaker 3>a day brushing your chomps, You're fine, You're fine. Get

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<v Speaker 3>on to the next day, Get onto the day that

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<v Speaker 3>you're in. Get onto this moment, not five minutes from now,

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<v Speaker 3>or this moment right here or right here. How I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna end this sentence right now, now, right now, this one,

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<v Speaker 3>right here, This is it. This is all we got.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing's gonna happen in the future. It happened now. Nothing's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna happen in the past. It happened right now. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you're saying shit like I can't believe it's Solloween,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can't believe it's Thanksgiving, and I can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>it's Christmas, why can't you believe it? Okay, you need

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<v Speaker 3>to be in the moment that you are in. Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>always comes out Thanksgiving. Why can't you believe it? Why

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<v Speaker 3>are you saying things about your kids like when he walks,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be happier when he goes to kindergarten, I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>happy when then, Shit, none of us get out of

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<v Speaker 3>here alive. You have no idea how much time you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Take the time that you have right now and now

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<v Speaker 3>and then this now, this is it. This is all

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<v Speaker 3>you got. All you're gonna take with you wherever you

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<v Speaker 3>go is your consciousness, work on it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if you work on being distracted all damn day,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get real good at it. And everybody wants

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<v Speaker 3>to press me. I got adhd. I'm like, join the club, everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>you got a phone. You're good, you got it, You're

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<v Speaker 3>you're you are meeting symptomology. Usually if you are remotely

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<v Speaker 3>complaining about that, and it's because you're getting really good

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<v Speaker 3>at it. You're practicing it. So maybe practice being quiet,

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<v Speaker 3>practice being calm, practice, breathing slower, practice, mantra practice. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's the other thing too. Nobody knows what meditation is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why it sucks. They don't know what to do

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<v Speaker 3>when they go sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>That was weirda be my next question, Actually, am I

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? What you're doing is remember this meditation is not

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<v Speaker 3>like even they for they keep coming back, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean. It's the same thing. So you're not

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<v Speaker 3>trying to clear your thoughts. Meditation isn't thinking about nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>no thing. It's concentrating on one thing. Okay, And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this gets into the yoga philosophy, and without doing that,

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<v Speaker 3>if you can focus on one thing, it's incredibly calming.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing that we always have with us is

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<v Speaker 3>our breath. So when I teach meditation to kindergarteners, they're

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<v Speaker 3>so cute. I'm like, who here is breathing? And they

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<v Speaker 3>all check. They're like, you know what I mean? And

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<v Speaker 3>then I go in to talk to lawyers, which for

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<v Speaker 3>some reason, I'm always talking to lawyers. I just got

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<v Speaker 3>another gig today with lawyers because these guys are stressed out,

416
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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. They have no idea how,

417
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<v Speaker 3>they have no idea how to meditate. And I say,

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<v Speaker 3>who here is breathing? They're like, they don't even, they

419
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<v Speaker 3>don't check, right, how do you know? You gotta check? Okay?

420
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<v Speaker 3>And I live in the South, which is so funny

421
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<v Speaker 3>because people I'm not from the South. I know, I

422
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<v Speaker 3>don't come across as Southern. I'm from Detroit. Okay, I'm

423
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<v Speaker 3>from Detroit. Except the people here are so sweet. They

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<v Speaker 3>say all the time. They'll say it's part of their culture.

425
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<v Speaker 3>They'll say, hey, I'm gonna say a prayer for you.

426
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<v Speaker 3>And I'm always like, right now, like or later, like,

427
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<v Speaker 3>are you gonna call me? Like when will I know

428
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<v Speaker 3>it went out? Like how am I gonna know that

429
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<v Speaker 3>you did it? You know? And it's the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>with breathing. They're like, I'm gonna take a breath, take

431
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<v Speaker 3>a deep breath, and they're like okay, And I'm like,

432
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<v Speaker 3>did you take it? You didn't take it. No one

433
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<v Speaker 3>took it, No one's doing it. Everyone's talk talk dot

434
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<v Speaker 3>talk talk talk talk pos post pousers and down by

435
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<v Speaker 3>the beach, and I'm all dressed in white and I'm like,

436
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<v Speaker 3>I don't that's not it. That's not what this is.

437
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<v Speaker 3>This is every single day, not negotiable. Brushing your chomps.

438
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<v Speaker 3>You want someone take a picture of you brushing your

439
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<v Speaker 3>chomps or sleeping? No, okay, this is a private personal thing.

440
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<v Speaker 3>You don't even need to tell anyone you're doing it.

441
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<v Speaker 3>You can keep it private. Every time. My husband's like,

442
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not telling anybody for five years that I'm meditating.

443
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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm telling everybody. I'm just kidding with the

444
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<v Speaker 3>But I will tell you this. My husband had. The

445
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<v Speaker 3>doctors told me, thankfully after his surgery that it was

446
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<v Speaker 3>the most extensive surgery that a human can endure. Okay,

447
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<v Speaker 3>it was like fourteen hours. It was terrible. I tell him,

448
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<v Speaker 3>it was so much worse for me. I mean, he

449
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<v Speaker 3>was sleeping. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding you guys,

450
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<v Speaker 3>for those of you that are listening. I just made

451
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<v Speaker 3>like a funny like I was joking. Disclaimer. But when

452
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<v Speaker 3>when he came out of it in his room, I

453
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<v Speaker 3>had it all decked out in the Buddhast medicines and

454
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<v Speaker 3>the Jesus shawls and all the things, and the bullshit

455
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<v Speaker 3>and the incense in the crystals and everything. There was

456
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<v Speaker 3>stuff everywhere, because hospitals are a horrible place to heal.

457
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<v Speaker 3>But once he was dealing with this incredible amount of pain,

458
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<v Speaker 3>he wanted to sit. He wanted to sit. He did

459
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<v Speaker 3>not want the pain pills, like I made him take

460
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<v Speaker 3>some painbells, but like he wanted to sit. He always

461
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<v Speaker 3>preferred that over it. And I'd read all the studies

462
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<v Speaker 3>about morphine and meditation being more effective than morphine for pain,

463
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<v Speaker 3>and I did not believe that. I didn't believe them.

464
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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, there's a bunch of bullshit. It's like

465
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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna look at my cushion like an old friend.

466
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, I'm doing this so I don't die, so

467
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<v Speaker 3>I don't have an heart attack, you know what I mean,

468
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<v Speaker 3>So I don't freak out, so I have a pleasant life,

469
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<v Speaker 3>so I could slow down well enough to see something

470
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<v Speaker 3>because I am raced up. I'm like this all the time.

471
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<v Speaker 3>My husband's like, okay, time to stop doing cartwheels, handstands,

472
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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to bed. I mean, I have a lot

473
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<v Speaker 3>of energy, and meditation will also help with that. If

474
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<v Speaker 3>you're feeling like once you spend some time being calm, okay,

475
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<v Speaker 3>I mean if this might be shocking, but I used

476
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<v Speaker 3>to just say whatever I thought all the time. Now

477
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<v Speaker 3>I have a little bit of a filter. Okay, a

478
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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a filter, but like I'm just saying,

479
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<v Speaker 3>I'm so happy. I just want you to have this, right,

480
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<v Speaker 3>So when I see these people who come in, and

481
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<v Speaker 3>you know, I got a friend who's also a therapist,

482
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<v Speaker 3>and he always says, you can't quit your private practice.

483
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<v Speaker 3>But I want to tell as many people as I

484
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<v Speaker 3>possibly can, please just try this and then tell me

485
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<v Speaker 3>it didn't work, you know what I mean. Like on

486
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<v Speaker 3>my tombstone, y'all can write like what if it works?

487
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<v Speaker 3>What if it does. What if it works and you

488
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<v Speaker 3>have this magical benefit, and then you have the magical benefit.

489
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<v Speaker 3>My benefit is I have never saw a sunset until

490
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<v Speaker 3>after I've been meditating for probably twelve years. Like I

491
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<v Speaker 3>never even noticed one. I was too busy, do you

492
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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying? And now I don't want to

493
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<v Speaker 3>miss any I have one painted in my little meditation room.

494
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<v Speaker 3>I don't I want to see them all the time.

495
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<v Speaker 3>Last night I said to my husband last night, I said,

496
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<v Speaker 3>is this a joke? Like? Are these how sunsets have

497
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<v Speaker 3>always been? There's like tears running down my face, like,

498
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is not my cup of tea, This

499
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<v Speaker 3>is not who I am, But it's definitely who you

500
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<v Speaker 3>want to be because you allow yourself to step aside,

501
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<v Speaker 3>and you'll get to be who you really are, which

502
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<v Speaker 3>is a holy in divine and creative creation and creator.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're you're lovely, and you don't really get

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<v Speaker 3>a chance to face yourself like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm making a big mistake here. I'm feeling

506
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<v Speaker 1>like I'm listening to your show. I just love the

507
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<v Speaker 1>way you talk, right, so I'll just like I'll just

508
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<v Speaker 1>let you talk. Oh I'm not listening to her show.

509
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<v Speaker 1>She's on my show. I got to have a question.

510
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<v Speaker 1>I have a question too, Okay, ask.

511
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's hear it. Question.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm ready, get up, pee, go downstairs to the room.

513
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<v Speaker 3>How much time?

514
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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

515
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<v Speaker 2>Are we talking about fifteen minutes?

516
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<v Speaker 3>Thirty minutes?

517
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<v Speaker 2>What are we looking at here?

518
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<v Speaker 3>Okay? So when we're trying to get together a habit

519
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<v Speaker 3>that we want for the rest of our life, okay,

520
00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:37.240
<v Speaker 3>like brushing your teeth or whatever. My daughter sits a

521
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<v Speaker 3>timer for two minutes, she brush her tea for two minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you believe that? I guess it's the recommended I

523
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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I don't do that. I don't do it.

524
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<v Speaker 3>You're trying to do this forever, okay, not to January

525
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<v Speaker 3>thirty first, or like this year or whatever, right, you

526
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<v Speaker 3>want to do it forever? And so my clients all

527
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<v Speaker 3>start with three minutes.

528
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<v Speaker 1>So wait, wow, three minute meditation.

529
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<v Speaker 3>Guess what, It's better than zero minutes.

530
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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't let me even I don't relax until

531
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<v Speaker 1>like twenty minutes into it.

532
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<v Speaker 3>I can't, I know, I know. So you are learning

533
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<v Speaker 3>how to make showing up habitual first, Okay, so you

534
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<v Speaker 3>come and you sit for three minutes. Now. I don't

535
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<v Speaker 3>know if you've listened to the show about motivation, but

536
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<v Speaker 3>you know, there's three little motivators that I always talk

537
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<v Speaker 3>about it.

538
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<v Speaker 1>I listened to every one of your first I can't

539
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<v Speaker 1>believe that.

540
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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny too, because I just hit record and

541
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<v Speaker 3>then I just start talking about whatever. The other day,

542
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:37.480
<v Speaker 3>my boy, he's doing my editing. He's like, I can't

543
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not really doing that much. You're just talking, okay.

544
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<v Speaker 3>So there are three mothers of motivation, the moms I

545
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<v Speaker 3>like to call them, okay, the big dogs, okay. And

546
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<v Speaker 3>the first one is you gotta feel good, okay, and

547
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<v Speaker 3>so in order to do that, motivation comes after action,

548
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<v Speaker 3>not before. Motivation comes after action, not before after Okay.

549
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<v Speaker 3>If you think it comes before you're thinking of inspiration,

550
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 3>that's great, right. And like, you know, if you watch

551
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<v Speaker 3>a Rocky movie, I'm dating myself. But if you watch

552
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.079
<v Speaker 3>a Rocky movie, you might feel like you want to

553
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:13.039
<v Speaker 3>go learn how to box or whatever. But if you

554
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<v Speaker 3>like run up by Down this year's in Philadelphia, like

555
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:20.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, you're gonna have motivation movement, okay. And the

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<v Speaker 3>second one is little by little, little by little little

557
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<v Speaker 3>bit you get a little bit better and a little

558
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<v Speaker 3>bit better, and then next thing you know, you're a

559
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<v Speaker 3>lot better. Okay, and then the third one and this

560
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<v Speaker 3>is the tough one, and this is the one you're

561
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<v Speaker 3>talking about.

562
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<v Speaker 1>Will.

563
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<v Speaker 3>Is that when you go there and you're like, Sherry

564
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<v Speaker 3>doesn't know what she's talking about. I feel great, it's

565
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:44.640
<v Speaker 3>only been three minutes. I'm gonna keep meditating, right. What

566
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<v Speaker 3>happens is is you feel motivated because you're just medavotated

567
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.079
<v Speaker 3>for three minutes. If you feel great, and it's in

568
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 3>alignment with your true purpose, okay, because you really want

569
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:55.920
<v Speaker 3>to be a meditator, like you're into it, right, But

570
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<v Speaker 3>you have to leave on a high note because motivation

571
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<v Speaker 3>means you want more. And if you sit there for

572
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<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes, your brain's like, I'm not doing that tomorrow. No,

573
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:12.279
<v Speaker 3>I have five for that shit. Okay, I'm not doing that. Okay,

574
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:16.000
<v Speaker 3>that's not We have to do this, this, this, and

575
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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna pick three different categories of all the reasons

576
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<v Speaker 3>why you can't do it. It usually has to do with

577
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 3>your body, time, or your environment. You're gonna pick one

578
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.720
<v Speaker 3>of those things and be like, I'm out. I gotta

579
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:29.759
<v Speaker 3>make the lunches. Okay, I don't have time for I

580
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.960
<v Speaker 3>gotta clean. Okay, this my hip hurts when I sit

581
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:39.039
<v Speaker 3>that long. Okay, okay, all these reasons why you're not

582
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<v Speaker 3>gonna sit there. And so the third one is you

583
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<v Speaker 3>have to leave on a high note. You have to

584
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<v Speaker 3>leave wanting more so, if you're running, and you're running

585
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<v Speaker 3>and you're like Cherry said, eight minutes run, yeah, whatever,

586
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<v Speaker 3>I feel great. I'm gonna keeprunning. I'm gonna keep running.

587
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:51.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna keep running. I'm gonna know my neighbors, and

588
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:55.000
<v Speaker 3>I feel great. What if you would stop right then? Okay,

589
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 3>And this is a great example. Have you met anybody

590
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<v Speaker 3>playing pickleball? They're stopping on a high. They're the happiest

591
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<v Speaker 3>people on earth. They're like, they big ball. It's amazing.

592
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<v Speaker 3>It's the most amazing thing. They're not at the end

593
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<v Speaker 3>of it. They're not talking about their scores. No one

594
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<v Speaker 3>tells me if they're any good. They're just doing it,

595
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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. That's it. That's all they're doing,

596
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:16.400
<v Speaker 3>is it. They're just showing up and they are pumped. Okay,

597
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 3>like they're the most happy people in the world. A

598
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<v Speaker 3>couple of retreats. Ago I called our group text the

599
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<v Speaker 3>pickleball enthusiasts because I used it as an example, and

600
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<v Speaker 3>everybody they're like, bick a ball and they went on

601
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<v Speaker 3>and out and not about how great it is. All

602
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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying is you got to be in it to

603
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<v Speaker 3>win it. You got to be doing it, okay, And

604
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<v Speaker 3>what you want is for your brain to go. I

605
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<v Speaker 3>want to do that again. And so the next morning

606
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<v Speaker 3>when you get up to rise, pe meditate, you're gonna

607
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<v Speaker 3>show up because it's only three minutes. And that's an

608
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<v Speaker 3>argument you can win with yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>City Let's take a break and we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>And now back to the skeptic metaphysicians. So then when

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<v Speaker 1>do you expand that or do you not? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>do three minutes for the rest of your life, or

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<v Speaker 1>do you expand it out to ten, fifteen, twenty?

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<v Speaker 3>Eventually you do, so you make it longer. Now is

615
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<v Speaker 3>this this is gonna get like the after hours thing. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>Deeper is better than longer.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear that all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I get. Deeper is better than longer. Okay. So you

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<v Speaker 3>want to have a more you want to have a

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<v Speaker 3>really good experience, okay, Rather than you know, sitting there

621
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<v Speaker 3>and like clutching, you know, the wheel sort of thing,

622
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<v Speaker 3>and there will come a time where it's really easy.

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<v Speaker 3>I have this amazing client, who I mean, he would

624
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<v Speaker 3>be a very It's funny because all my clients are

625
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<v Speaker 3>like my clientell very lucky therapist. I have a very

626
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<v Speaker 3>diverse crowd, and none of them look like meditators. None

627
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<v Speaker 3>of them look like yoga teachers, none of them look

628
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<v Speaker 3>none of them, I mean, they're all like that verson's meditating,

629
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<v Speaker 3>you'd be really shocked. But one of them and he's

630
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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's he's from Georgia, and he he ups

631
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<v Speaker 3>his meditation thirty second intervals so his brain won't notice them.

632
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<v Speaker 1>So does he set a clock or yes?

633
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I'm very opinionated about that. You don't want

634
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<v Speaker 3>to have an alarm, you know, so you want to

635
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:28.440
<v Speaker 3>have an alarm that's not very alarming, right, Like my

636
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.599
<v Speaker 3>first alarm was like Krishna Das or something like that.

637
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 3>Someone's singing pretty things to me. Now I'm listening to

638
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>Patty Griffin. Oh my gosh, she's got you know, oh oh,

639
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:40.559
<v Speaker 3>there's so many good Petty Griffin songs, Like you want

640
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>to pick you want to pick something that's lovely to

641
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<v Speaker 3>hear because when you're done meditating, you know. I think

642
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<v Speaker 3>it was Para Mahansa Yogananda said, you know, you don't

643
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<v Speaker 3>want to milk the cow and then jump up and

644
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 3>kick the milk over, like you know, just like sit

645
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<v Speaker 3>there for a second, right, so after your three minutes,

646
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 3>you might open your eyes and just sit there. Okay.

647
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm really bad at remembering who said what,

648
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<v Speaker 3>but I think it was Edison that said something like,

649
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<v Speaker 3>you know, all of our problems stem from the fact

650
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<v Speaker 3>that we can't sit in a room quietly for fifteen

651
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.279
<v Speaker 3>minutes doing absolutely nothing. I mean he nailed that in

652
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.839
<v Speaker 3>a time when we're not even dealing with this. Right,

653
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 3>did I answer your question though? Because you said you ride,

654
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<v Speaker 3>you get up.

655
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<v Speaker 1>You extended out, and you said yes, three seconds and

656
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<v Speaker 1>then you do it.

657
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<v Speaker 3>I would take a long long time to do it.

658
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<v Speaker 3>I would take your time, like we used the term.

659
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<v Speaker 3>There's a great there's a great book. I don't think

660
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<v Speaker 3>it's called take your time, but it's something by Eknatha

661
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Schwar and he does a beautiful job of talking about

662
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<v Speaker 3>slowing down and actually take your time with this. You know,

663
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:45.559
<v Speaker 3>take it seriously. Okay, take it as seriously as you

664
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<v Speaker 3>have teeth and mouth health. You know what I mean.

665
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, nobody says I don't have time to brush

666
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<v Speaker 3>my teeth, or I misbrush my teeth so I'm never

667
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<v Speaker 3>gonna do it again, or I'm gonna wait till my parents,

668
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, leave this house, or because they're visiting, I'm

669
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<v Speaker 3>gonna wait till this vacation's over to brush my tea.

670
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<v Speaker 1>Nobody says that.

671
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Like this is your ego trying to get you

672
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.680
<v Speaker 3>to stop, because when you're quiet, your ego's not there,

673
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 3>and that's scary for you, Okay, And so your ego's

674
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 3>like I make coffee and I let dogs out, and

675
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 3>I clean up, and I do this, and I get

676
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 3>the paper and I look at this and I do that,

677
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 3>like it wants to own you.

678
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<v Speaker 1>Right, If you are already a meditator and three minutes

679
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.359
<v Speaker 1>may seem to be too short, it's just clarifying. It's

680
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.839
<v Speaker 1>cool to do ten minutes, right, or fifteen to start

681
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<v Speaker 1>with that, or do you suggest everyone's start back at

682
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<v Speaker 1>three minutes.

683
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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you're trying to show up every day, then

684
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<v Speaker 3>I would start at five or seven minutes. I would

685
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<v Speaker 3>probably still bring it down really low. And I would

686
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:44.759
<v Speaker 3>always use an odd number because your brain like loves

687
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 3>odd numbers. That's why we click on links that say

688
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 3>eleven things. You know, the clickbait is always odd numbers.

689
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.440
<v Speaker 3>So I would use an odd number. I would use

690
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:57.079
<v Speaker 3>seven minutes then, And you know, because your goal has changed.

691
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.519
<v Speaker 3>It's not to meditate sometimes perfectly. It's to medicate every

692
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 3>single day for the rest of your life, right right, Okay.

693
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<v Speaker 3>And the thing about these benefits, they're great, They're wonderful.

694
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<v Speaker 3>There's a million of them. I can't even imagine how

695
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 3>many I've gotten. I mean, I mean, it's amazing. But

696
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:17.400
<v Speaker 3>you don't get them unless you do. You have to

697
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.519
<v Speaker 3>do it. You have to sit there. Okay. There's a

698
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 3>lot of posters out there talk and talk and talking.

699
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<v Speaker 3>Sits it.

700
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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned earlier that that meditation is not clear in

701
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:34.159
<v Speaker 1>your mind. It's thinking about one thing, yes or no.

702
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Guided meditations versus silent meditations versus music meditations. Do you

703
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.119
<v Speaker 1>have advices to which one you use?

704
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<v Speaker 3>Yes? You know? I do you know? I do? Yes?

705
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 3>So guided meditation is great. I kind of like to

706
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 3>think of it like if you go to Colorado and

707
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 3>you want to go skiing, you will probably get someone

708
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:55.679
<v Speaker 3>to teach you how to go down the mountains because

709
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.800
<v Speaker 3>it's like serious skiing in Colorado. Right, If you really

710
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:00.639
<v Speaker 3>want to seriously learn how to to do it, you're

711
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.400
<v Speaker 3>going to get a teacher. And you know, binaural beads,

712
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 3>guided meditation, those types of things they show you. This

713
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 3>is what it's like. This is where you're going, This

714
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 3>is how you do your feet, this is how you

715
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:13.840
<v Speaker 3>do your polls, this is how you get on the lift.

716
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:15.920
<v Speaker 3>This is where you know. This might help, this might

717
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.039
<v Speaker 3>not help, right, But what you really want is a

718
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 3>formal sitting practice where you're not listening to anything, and

719
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:28.199
<v Speaker 3>because then you're just listening to music, then you're just

720
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:32.199
<v Speaker 3>listening to someone talk. I find them now kind of distracting,

721
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:34.800
<v Speaker 3>but sometimes it can be fun to have, Like a

722
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.840
<v Speaker 3>guided meditation. You're gonna hate this answer, but use guided

723
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:42.039
<v Speaker 3>meditation in those after you get the hang of sitting. Okay,

724
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.239
<v Speaker 3>use them as your second meditation of the day. Yes,

725
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 3>there could be too eventually, so.

726
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I only rise in pee you once. Well, well that's

727
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:59.159
<v Speaker 1>that's not true. I'm over fifty, says that happens a lot. Actually,

728
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:03.599
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I've heard it say too much is too much.

729
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>So you think more than one is okay a day?

730
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<v Speaker 3>I think more than one is okay if you're doing

731
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:11.880
<v Speaker 3>it every single day for like a year.

732
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<v Speaker 1>So how many, two, five, twelve, wait numbers thirteen?

733
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<v Speaker 3>How many times a day?

734
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What do you recommend?

735
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 3>Twice?

736
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Twice a day? Okay?

737
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<v Speaker 3>But first, see, that's the thing. We really love to

738
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 3>start at the goal. We're like, January first, I'm gonna

739
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 3>be running two miles a day. I'm like, dude, you

740
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.800
<v Speaker 3>don't say January first, I'm gonna be playing Jimmy Hendricks licks.

741
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:35.360
<v Speaker 3>If you ain't never pick up a guitar. You know

742
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.480
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. You can't start at the goal. Okay,

743
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.519
<v Speaker 3>you got to start. You got to think of your

744
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:42.800
<v Speaker 3>body like food. You can't just eat a Believe me,

745
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:44.719
<v Speaker 3>if you could eat all your meals for the whole

746
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Speaker 3>year and one day I would sign up, I would

747
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 3>pay and be done and not have to eat. It's

748
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 3>such an inconvenience. It's a pain in the ass. I

749
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:53.000
<v Speaker 3>hate making dinner. I hate it. I'm a mom. I

750
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 3>know it's terrible. I'm a terrible mother. It's such a

751
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 3>drag by the time. By the end of the day,

752
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not hungry. How are these people constantly eating all day?

753
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe they're not five hundred pounds. I'm like, God,

754
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.760
<v Speaker 3>it's constant eating. Okay, but if I could, I would

755
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 3>eat all my meals in one day. But remember the mother's

756
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.320
<v Speaker 3>a motivation. The second one is little by little. You

757
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 3>can't do that. You can only eat a cup a

758
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 3>little bit each day, okay to maintain what you want.

759
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:19.960
<v Speaker 3>So you need to think of meditation like that. That's

760
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.559
<v Speaker 3>how your brain works. That's why when you go to

761
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 3>clean your whole garage in one day, you're like, I'm

762
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna keep it organized and it's gonna be great, it's

763
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna be perfect. And then your brain's like, I'm never

764
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.480
<v Speaker 3>doing this again. I missed all my shows, I didn't

765
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.199
<v Speaker 3>have a fun Saturday. I'm letting it get messy again.

766
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 3>That's why we do it once twice, three times a year,

767
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.280
<v Speaker 3>all day long. But what you would do instead is

768
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.039
<v Speaker 3>maybe just the bikes, you know, and then you'll leave

769
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.800
<v Speaker 3>yourself wanting more because motivation comes after action, and then

770
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:47.440
<v Speaker 3>you want to do more and you say, SUREY doesn't

771
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 3>know I'm just gonna do the whole garage. But I'm

772
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.719
<v Speaker 3>just saying, what would it be like if you just

773
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.159
<v Speaker 3>did a little bit there and you practiced showing up,

774
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:59.000
<v Speaker 3>you practiced being quiet. And you know that also gets

775
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 3>into the like you know, you know, running is my

776
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 3>meditation and that doesn't make any I mean, like that's

777
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.360
<v Speaker 3>like saying talking is my singing, and you know, breathing

778
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.840
<v Speaker 3>is my jogging or something like that. That's the difference

779
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:16.239
<v Speaker 3>between mindfulness and meditation. I hate the word mindful because like,

780
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:19.280
<v Speaker 3>isn't our mind already full? It should be mindlessed, right,

781
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, But anyway, what you want to do

782
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:23.519
<v Speaker 3>is like they say in London, you know, you have

783
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.559
<v Speaker 3>to mind the gap. You got to be in the

784
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:29.000
<v Speaker 3>thing that you're doing right. Like so earlier, I was

785
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 3>having a very frustrating situation uploading homecoming photos to drop box.

786
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Each one took five seconds. I was like, I mean,

787
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.840
<v Speaker 3>it was this thing forever, right, and I'm just like

788
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.119
<v Speaker 3>sitting there, I'm like like this and I was like, okay,

789
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.719
<v Speaker 3>how many breaths can I? Okay take his five breaths?

790
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:49.039
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, well, could I get it to

791
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.679
<v Speaker 3>three breaths? You know, one breath, you know, like take

792
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 3>advantage of the situation that you are in, you know,

793
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.039
<v Speaker 3>like Joe just spends is so funny. He's like, you

794
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 3>gotta hurry up and get up to go to work thing,

795
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:01.840
<v Speaker 3>hurry up and have lunch, and then hurry up and

796
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 3>drive home, and then hurry up and watch the show,

797
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:04.639
<v Speaker 3>and then hurry up and eat your thing, and then

798
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:06.000
<v Speaker 3>hurry up and go to bed. So you can hurry

799
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:07.960
<v Speaker 3>up and get up. He's like, where are you going?

800
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:11.480
<v Speaker 3>You're already there, You're here. What are you doing here?

801
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 3>How are you gonna spend your time here? The best

802
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.119
<v Speaker 3>way to spend your time here is spending a little

803
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:20.239
<v Speaker 3>time quiet. And if I could do this, I mean,

804
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 3>come on, if I can do this, y'all can do this. Yeah,

805
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:31.000
<v Speaker 3>you can do it. Okay you can right, all right,

806
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:31.559
<v Speaker 3>we can do it.

807
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:33.559
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to bring her back on the show. Yes,

808
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>because we haven't even gotten deeper into this.

809
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:40.079
<v Speaker 3>How well we're doing? Yes? I need updates. I need updates.

810
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:42.679
<v Speaker 3>So today I was telling my boy, I'm teaching him

811
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<v Speaker 3>how to drive. Whoa we got on the highway today.

812
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:47.199
<v Speaker 3>I was like, let me tell you something. None of

813
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 3>this happens in Detroit. Everybody know how their car goes,

814
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. Just worry about this here

815
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.920
<v Speaker 3>in Atlanta. All right, So, Ryse, you're gonna send me

816
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:58.320
<v Speaker 3>a text and you're gonna say rise pee meditator or

817
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.519
<v Speaker 3>I did it or whatever. Okay, for three minutes, that's it.

818
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Tell me that you're not dying to get back to

819
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 3>the cushion. After three minutes, you're gonna be like, I

820
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.239
<v Speaker 3>want to. And then you're gonna be like, I found

821
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 3>a feather and I'm gonna put it in my meditation spot.

822
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<v Speaker 3>And then like you're gonna be like, and then I

823
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<v Speaker 3>found this picture of my grandma. Is there so much?

824
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<v Speaker 3>Just put it right there, and like you're gonna want

825
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<v Speaker 3>to make that space really pretty, and all of a

826
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<v Speaker 3>sudden you're gonna look to it like it's an old

827
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<v Speaker 3>front and we're gonna name it Gladys.

828
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<v Speaker 1>Gladys. Oh, I see.

829
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<v Speaker 3>That is hot. That's hot. That's really hot.

830
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<v Speaker 1>All right. When you say deeper is better than longer,

831
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:42.599
<v Speaker 1>what makes something deeper? What's what makes a deep meditation deep?

832
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.880
<v Speaker 3>If you're just what you're learning, you know, when you

833
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<v Speaker 3>focus on one thing a mantra, your breath, whatever it is,

834
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 3>whatever we call our anchor, that's gonna be our one

835
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:55.960
<v Speaker 3>thing that we focus on. You know, you might have

836
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 3>a moment or flash where you're kind of in between,

837
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.559
<v Speaker 3>like so to say, like the notes of the music

838
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:06.719
<v Speaker 3>right where there's just silence, there's nothing there. Right. As

839
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 3>soon as you realize that, of course you're thinking about

840
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:13.480
<v Speaker 3>it and it's over, right. But really, what we're trying

841
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 3>to do is change our brain waves into alpha, theta,

842
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:22.639
<v Speaker 3>whatever waves. And it's so without falling asleep. Okay, And

843
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 3>when we do that, when we maintain that, you have

844
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 3>these moments with my husband causin like dropping in. You know,

845
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I dropped in my clients. Let's say I dropped in

846
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:34.360
<v Speaker 3>and it's just like this, right, And what you want

847
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:36.239
<v Speaker 3>are a couple more. If you're having sixty thousand thoughts

848
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 3>a day, what if you had fifty thousand, What if

849
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 3>you had thirty thousand, What if you're like me, you

850
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 3>had eighty that I'm just kidding one million, right, And

851
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:47.280
<v Speaker 3>so you what you want is a meaningful experience. And

852
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:49.559
<v Speaker 3>so that's why I tell people. You know, a lot

853
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:53.199
<v Speaker 3>of people assume that I'm an MBSR practitioner because I'm

854
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>a social worker.

855
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 4>That's really popular in my business. It's mindfulness based stress reduction,

856
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 4>and it's you know, a very practical physiological way to

857
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:04.400
<v Speaker 4>look at meditations.

858
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Great. I tell people, even though I'm a social worker,

859
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:11.320
<v Speaker 3>I think because I'm a social worker, I tell people,

860
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.480
<v Speaker 3>bring whatever it is that means anything to you. There

861
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:19.760
<v Speaker 3>the feather, Jesus, Buddha, Alah, Susie, passy, Jimmy, whatever you

862
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:23.199
<v Speaker 3>call it, Bring it to that cushion. Because there are

863
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 3>many pasts to one truth and you are kind of

864
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.000
<v Speaker 3>you're in touch with yourself. What you're going to realize

865
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.599
<v Speaker 3>is the thoughts that are coming and coming and coming,

866
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:37.159
<v Speaker 3>that you're separate from them right now. You might feel

867
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 3>like that's you, right, but you're separate from those things

868
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.519
<v Speaker 3>and you just don't take it so seriously. And I

869
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:49.119
<v Speaker 3>think that's why my favorite benefit of meditation, which these

870
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, these clinicians are having difficulty like defining you know,

871
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 3>it's coming across as like people are more real, Like

872
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 3>they feel more wise, they feel more compassionate, you know,

873
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:04.000
<v Speaker 3>those things that everybody wants. Because I think sometimes people think, well,

874
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be too chill, or my personality I mean, like,

875
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:11.119
<v Speaker 3>my personality is clearly still here, Like this is it,

876
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:12.719
<v Speaker 3>this is what you get, you know what I mean.

877
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Speaker 3>But I think seeing myself separate from that, you know,

878
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.440
<v Speaker 3>it's it's such a relief, you know, because it's God,

879
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 3>it's exhausting, you know, it's it's this constant running thoughts

880
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 3>and judgments. I mean, there's nothing you could do about

881
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 3>it except maybe take a break from it. You know.

882
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Michael Singer does a really good job in one of

883
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.079
<v Speaker 3>his books when he says, you know, I can prove

884
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 3>to you that there's two of you. You know, He'll say,

885
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:36.760
<v Speaker 3>if I gave you a pill and I said I could,

886
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:39.360
<v Speaker 3>we could get rid of those thoughts just for like

887
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:42.880
<v Speaker 3>ten minutes, you know, would you take it? And everything's

888
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.679
<v Speaker 3>like yeah, hell yeah, I just got the chills. I'm like,

889
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.480
<v Speaker 3>I want one. Right, But if I said, how about

890
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.159
<v Speaker 3>the one that's listening to that? If I give you

891
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:53.800
<v Speaker 3>a pill to get rid of that, would you want that?

892
00:43:53.920 --> 00:44:00.000
<v Speaker 3>You're like no, because that's you, that's you, that is you.

893
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 3>Thoughts ain't you? Okay? We think they're important because we

894
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:05.480
<v Speaker 3>keep going to them, just like we think word is

895
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:09.760
<v Speaker 3>important because we keep going. Right, we think it's it's

896
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:12.360
<v Speaker 3>it's important because we hear it over and over again.

897
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:14.400
<v Speaker 3>What we think about, you know, if we think about

898
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 3>something long enough, you know, we think it's true, whether

899
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:18.920
<v Speaker 3>it's true or not. So why people drink the kool aid?

900
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. So you have to spend

901
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.559
<v Speaker 3>some time facing yourself and then you get this massive

902
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:29.199
<v Speaker 3>benefit of being like, oh my gosh, that's not it's

903
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 3>not really, that's not it all.

904
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, So I lost track again because I just started

905
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>listening to you. I started listening to your show once again.

906
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:37.679
<v Speaker 1>When you're on my show.

907
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

908
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Deeper means losing yourself completely.

909
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and just just be okay with it. It's a

910
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:47.599
<v Speaker 3>little scary at first when you slip into those little moments, right.

911
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 3>And Wayne Dyer has great books if you want to

912
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 3>pick up some of his old old books about how

913
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.760
<v Speaker 3>to slip into the into the gap, you know, and

914
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:58.239
<v Speaker 3>he's got you know, like our you know, like like

915
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 3>I pledge allegiance or our father, know, like our father,

916
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.079
<v Speaker 3>our father slip in there like like try to find

917
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 3>the spaces, you know. But deeper just means you're not

918
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 3>sitting there thinking about laundry that can't be here like you. Yeah,

919
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.519
<v Speaker 3>you have like laser focus on something right, and there

920
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.159
<v Speaker 3>will be times where you sit around and think about

921
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 3>think about laundry. If you're gonna do this every day,

922
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.360
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna have good times, bad times, and all these

923
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 3>months in sage. Just say it doesn't matter. Just go

924
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:24.719
<v Speaker 3>sit again.

925
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably can be the hardest thing for me,

926
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 1>is stopping thinking about doing laundry.

927
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.800
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to stop thinking about it, start thinking

928
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:35.760
<v Speaker 3>about it. This is what you do. You tell yourself

929
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.760
<v Speaker 3>you have three jobs. You go This is from Kelly McGonagle.

930
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 3>By the way, you go and sit down. Okay, you're

931
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:45.320
<v Speaker 3>gonna remain completely still for three minutes or five minutes

932
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 3>or seven minutes, however you're starting. Please don't go over

933
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.920
<v Speaker 3>seven minutes unless you want to be unsuccessful. You sit

934
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:54.960
<v Speaker 3>completely still with your eyes closed, sitting up. Okay. You're

935
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 3>not leaning back on something, and you're not leaning forward

936
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:02.639
<v Speaker 3>on something. You're sitting up. Okay. That's your first show. Okay.

937
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:06.199
<v Speaker 3>Your second job is to just notice that you're breathing.

938
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.559
<v Speaker 3>Is if someone else is breathing for you? Okay, because

939
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 3>someone else kind of is. I mean, we go to

940
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 3>bed every night and we breathe all night, like I'm

941
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 3>not doing it? Are you doing it? I don't know

942
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:18.719
<v Speaker 3>who's doing that. Someone's doing that, It ain't me. Okay,

943
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:21.599
<v Speaker 3>So you're just gonna watch it. So you're not gonna

944
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.679
<v Speaker 3>change it and make it deeper or shallower, be like

945
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:25.639
<v Speaker 3>my breath is no good, or it's too long, it's

946
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:27.920
<v Speaker 3>too short, like judgment whatever. You're just gonna notice that

947
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:31.960
<v Speaker 3>you're breathing. Okay. Your brain is gonna find this incredibly boring, okay,

948
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 3>right away, it's gonna be like I want to think

949
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.400
<v Speaker 3>about lunchtime, I want to think about later, I want

950
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:37.719
<v Speaker 3>to go to work, I want to do this. This

951
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.159
<v Speaker 3>is boring. I've made a mistake yesterday. I should do this,

952
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.199
<v Speaker 3>I should do that. All this should all this running stuff, right.

953
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Your third job is to just notice that and come

954
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.280
<v Speaker 3>back to the breath. Okay. If you notice that and

955
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 3>come back to the breath five hundred more times than me,

956
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:57.480
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna benefit from that sit more than me. Okay.

957
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 3>So if you're terrible at this, awesome okay, Like it's

958
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 3>okay to be terrible at it. That's it. One two three.

959
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.679
<v Speaker 3>You sit quietly, You notice your breath. When you space out,

960
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:12.679
<v Speaker 3>you come back to the breath. That's the practice because

961
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:14.320
<v Speaker 3>every time you come back to the breath, and maybe

962
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:17.119
<v Speaker 3>we can talk about this next time, you have physiological

963
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:20.079
<v Speaker 3>changes in your brain and your prefrontal cortex that show

964
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 3>up only about after about three weeks four weeks of meditating.

965
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:31.920
<v Speaker 1>M oh okay, Well, if you enjoyed listening to Shary today,

966
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>then you got to check out her show Stress Therapy, right,

967
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.119
<v Speaker 1>because not only do you do exactly what you just

968
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:44.199
<v Speaker 1>did is giving us practical advice on how to continue

969
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to meditate, but then you actually do it with us. Right.

970
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.639
<v Speaker 1>You want to meditation every show too, So if you

971
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:56.679
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed Shary today on our show, do yourself a favor

972
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:59.719
<v Speaker 1>and go subscribe to her show Stress Therapy because it

973
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>is really, it is so it is, it's it's one

974
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite I'm fine we met because I was

975
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:11.239
<v Speaker 1>listener to your show. I know, sweet, it is a

976
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:14.519
<v Speaker 1>great show and I can't recommend it enough. But if

977
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>someone wanted to reach out to you to maybe go

978
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:19.280
<v Speaker 1>on some of your treats that you do which are

979
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:23.599
<v Speaker 1>really cool, or learn meditation from you directly, or if

980
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:26.320
<v Speaker 1>they're in the Atlanta area. Why don't you bring you

981
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:29.760
<v Speaker 1>on as their counselor what's the best way for someone

982
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:30.199
<v Speaker 1>to reach.

983
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Out to you. You can go to my website. It's

984
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:37.320
<v Speaker 3>the stress therapist dot com. It's not a stress therapist,

985
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:38.440
<v Speaker 3>it's these.

986
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Because of course there could only be one.

987
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.639
<v Speaker 3>It's only one. If you can't remember that, it's you

988
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 3>can go to I Love therapy dot com too. That's

989
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:49.519
<v Speaker 3>the same place, but you could. You could also shoot

990
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.400
<v Speaker 3>me an email. I'll root for you, I mean, I love,

991
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I will root for you. I will I will help

992
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.639
<v Speaker 3>you along. I mean I Sometimes I do these interviews

993
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.599
<v Speaker 3>on like script news or whatever, and they'll act like

994
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 3>they're all interested. They'll be like, Okay, did you do it?

995
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:08.239
<v Speaker 3>So I really want to be around people. Yeah. I

996
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:11.119
<v Speaker 3>really want to be around people who actually want to

997
00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:14.679
<v Speaker 3>do it, you know, And it's fun to of course.

998
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.559
<v Speaker 3>I think it's fun to talk about it. But you

999
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.079
<v Speaker 3>don't have to. You can keep it private. It can

1000
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:20.760
<v Speaker 3>be your own private thing where you can just tell me.

1001
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:22.840
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to tell your spouse or your neighbor

1002
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:24.840
<v Speaker 3>or anyone. You could just kind of see have it.

1003
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Let it be your own little adventure, your own little

1004
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:29.519
<v Speaker 3>piece of joy, your own sunset right.

1005
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.400
<v Speaker 1>And so for those of you who are just running

1006
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:35.199
<v Speaker 1>out with meditation or having a hard time, this is

1007
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the perfect way forward. For those of you who are

1008
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:41.639
<v Speaker 1>already seasoned meditators, you already know the benefits of meditation,

1009
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:44.000
<v Speaker 1>but are having a hard time sticking to it, this

1010
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:45.000
<v Speaker 1>is a perfect way to do it.

1011
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:47.920
<v Speaker 3>And I even have on my retreats people that are

1012
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:49.760
<v Speaker 3>doing it twice a day every day. They still come

1013
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:51.519
<v Speaker 3>on the retreats. So I have one in the mountains

1014
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.320
<v Speaker 3>that's pretty immersive. You know, you are meditating and eating

1015
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:57.039
<v Speaker 3>amazing food and then doing yoga, and then meditating and

1016
00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 3>eating amazing food in the and then doing yoga. Pretty immersive.

1017
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:03.159
<v Speaker 3>And then I have one at Checkle Island right off

1018
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:06.000
<v Speaker 3>the coast of Georgia. We just did one during Hurricane Helene.

1019
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.360
<v Speaker 3>That was a trip, but we did it.

1020
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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was great, and if you can keep

1021
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:14.639
<v Speaker 1>meditating during that, you can keep.

1022
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was amazing. I can't believe how everybody.

1023
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.239
<v Speaker 3>I was like, is everybody okay? They were like, we're great.

1024
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.199
<v Speaker 3>I was like, we don't have any power, we don't

1025
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:21.800
<v Speaker 3>have any cell service. We were using our paper maps

1026
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<v Speaker 3>to get to our beautiful beaches to meditate. So if

1027
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<v Speaker 3>you want to come, I'm really trying to serve my

1028
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<v Speaker 3>community here in Georgia. You know I'm licensed in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 3>That's probably why. But I'm happy to hear about all

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<v Speaker 3>your endeavors across the world. I love hearing from everybody

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<v Speaker 3>everywhere about how they're meditating and actually showing up, actually

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<v Speaker 3>doing it, and then you know, with their own little

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<v Speaker 3>stories that I just I could never You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>anyone's guess how it's going to be for you. It's

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<v Speaker 3>anyone's guess, and I don't want you to miss it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want you to miss out on it. I

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<v Speaker 3>want it to be your your little private joy. I

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<v Speaker 3>want it to be your sunset.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, oh my god, you are so joyful. Oh just

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<v Speaker 2>that energy. It's like shooting out of our computer at us.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. This is just fantastic, so sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so happy I was on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not gonna be the it's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the last time, Sharry you. You are quickly becoming one

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<v Speaker 1>of our absolute favorite guests. You were always one of

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite people, so this is just bringing you to

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<v Speaker 1>right all right, Cherry, thanks so much for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>and sharing your wisdom with us. We look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>doing many more of these in the future. I can't wait,

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<v Speaker 1>and a huge thank you to you. We know that

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<v Speaker 1>there are tons of options out there, and having you

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<v Speaker 1>decide to come along on our journey of discovery with

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<v Speaker 1>us is an absolute honor for us. If you know

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<v Speaker 1>someone who would benefit from hearing the message we're sharing

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, do them and us a favor and

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<v Speaker 1>share the show with them. It will help get the

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<v Speaker 1>word out about us and it might just change someone's

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<v Speaker 1>life for the better. Well that's all for now. We

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<v Speaker 1>will see you on the next episode of The Skeptic Metaphysician.

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<v Speaker 1>Until then, take care,
