Speaker 1: See I can do. I can do Ryan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Welcome to CEEO pre show for episode Does that
Speaker 2: say four fifty five?
Speaker 1: I think it says four thirty five, four four thirty
Speaker 1: That last week?
Speaker 2: That was last week?
Speaker 1: We were so sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, brought to you by the wonderful patrons over at
Speaker 2: CEO podcast. Wait what is it patreon dot com slash
Speaker 2: CCO podcast nailed it, whether they like it or not.
Speaker 1: Now that's what I was supposed to say. I missed
Speaker 1: my spot there too. We're get distracted. We got a
Speaker 1: bunch of people hanging out in the studio and it's like, man,
Speaker 1: we just got to get this pre show going because
Speaker 1: there's so much talking about.
Speaker 2: There's so much going on, and we got lots of
Speaker 2: lots of business to get to. Lots of our very
Speaker 2: good friends are here, which is very distracting because I
Speaker 2: want to talk to them and tell them about all
Speaker 2: the things that they know nothing about.
Speaker 1: That dude knows magic.
Speaker 2: By the way, why does it call himself ugly kid
Speaker 2: Joel when he's so hang.
Speaker 1: Because he's a dungeon master and he can call himself
Speaker 1: whatever he wants.
Speaker 2: Wait, is that real?
Speaker 1: No, but he could be a dungeon master quasi, Yeah.
Speaker 2: We wait, hands to jet Is this a sex thing?
Speaker 2: Because if this is a sex thing, we should say
Speaker 2: the regular.
Speaker 1: Fantasy D and D. Sorry all right, all right? That yes,
Speaker 1: not to be confused with the dungeon that you got
Speaker 1: set up in the basement what or sorry, the one
Speaker 1: that we always talk about here that the show used
Speaker 1: to come from. Where are we at right now?
Speaker 2: We look behind his hands, it's probably in front of
Speaker 2: that dumpster fire like that. The fire will burn eternal
Speaker 2: in our hearts and in this alley that we are
Speaker 2: sitting in. It's like right now.
Speaker 1: Like the tire fire in Shelbyville is exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just never stops. It's just it's just burning.
Speaker 2: And that's just hard. Is that way we're not in
Speaker 2: the basement here anymore? Is because you said have some
Speaker 2: kind of weird sex dungeon for Joel.
Speaker 1: He's my dungeon master man.
Speaker 2: This is a magical place where all anythink dreams come true.
Speaker 2: Holy hell, Okay, we got some business. Ryan made sure
Speaker 2: that we got to it.
Speaker 1: Yes, and first and foremost, thank you again to Ryan
Speaker 1: for allowing me to fill for him. I know this
Speaker 1: is his baby and it's very very important and crucial
Speaker 1: that we perform very well. So thank you for believing
Speaker 1: in this. We won't let you.
Speaker 2: Downe Rebecca just came in together and drug him out
Speaker 2: of here by his bad foot to make sure that
Speaker 2: she he actually laughed. I felt like, no, I'm I
Speaker 2: thought it was kind of funny. Actually he laughed. We're
Speaker 2: still laughing on the inside.
Speaker 1: Thank you to Rebecca for so much, just for putting
Speaker 1: up with it, forgetting him out of hill after an
Speaker 1: absolute legend. So thank you for being so cool.
Speaker 2: Left me a whole card full of notes. But these
Speaker 2: are important. So last week we had a couple of
Speaker 2: giveaways for people commenting telling this the first commander they
Speaker 2: ever built, and just interaction with the show. We always
Speaker 2: really appreciate that. We're gonna have another interaction point for
Speaker 2: you in a minute. But last week our YouTube comment
Speaker 2: winner is DJ underscore Kitty underscore scribbles. I hate that
Speaker 2: YouTube makes us use those like those names instead of
Speaker 2: the one that you gave yourself, because now I don't
Speaker 2: know who anybody is. So if DJ Kitty scribbles, dig
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Speaker 2: we talked all about gangster rap we did on those
Speaker 2: your show on Friday.
Speaker 1: You just discovered nw A.
Speaker 2: I did, I really I listened to n w A
Speaker 2: for the very They used lots of bad words, but
Speaker 2: like it's good, it's fun. I kind of like it.
Speaker 2: I see why it changed the whole industry. Yeah, DJ
Speaker 2: Katy scribbles you have. You have one yourself, your choice
Speaker 2: of a Ceco sticker pack, CCO token pack, or a
Speaker 2: boring ass pack of magic gathering carts. So just get
Speaker 2: us at Commander Cookode at gmail dot com. Let us
Speaker 2: know what you want. You gotta have your real name,
Speaker 2: your full address with postal zip code, and let us
Speaker 2: know what you want. What you want and we'll get
Speaker 2: it sent off to you as soon as we. Meaning,
Speaker 2: Ryan have a healthy leg and can go do those things. Yes,
Speaker 2: and honor system for everybody else or you'll screwed up
Speaker 2: for everybody.
Speaker 1: We have a bonus.
Speaker 2: Winner as well, because for the next little while, just
Speaker 2: if you're a patron of the show is help and support.
Speaker 2: We want to thank you, so randomly you're going to
Speaker 2: pick a patron each week. Nice to get a the
Speaker 2: same prize pack that we just talked about. This one
Speaker 2: is Derek Vaughan. I don't. I don't have a nickname.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you have to come up with
Speaker 1: one for that, man, No, you do. I can't. I'm
Speaker 1: not the new one.
Speaker 2: You're just you are. Of the two of us, you
Speaker 2: are the new one. If Ryan was here, you'd still
Speaker 2: be the new.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see. Okay, well, let's let's think about this.
Speaker 1: Derek Vaughn there, and then he'll go okay.
Speaker 2: I got it. Okay, okay, Yeah, you're doing well, doing well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, big, thank you and f you too.
Speaker 1: Devon White. It's a baseball guy. I guarantee you Ryan
Speaker 1: will love that one center fielder for the tront Blue Days,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all time. I know it's
Speaker 1: not funny or vulgar or crasp, but Don Wright was awesome.
Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna call him. That's how it's done here,
Speaker 2: That's how we do it, and that's how we do it.
Speaker 1: That's got a nice little final fantasy undertone too.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh man, man, you're good at this. So video games, see,
Speaker 2: we do love those because Gary doesn't play a lot
Speaker 2: of magic gathering yet yet he does not play a
Speaker 2: lot of magic gathering yet, so I thought we would
Speaker 2: be an interesting topic for tomorrow's show. Is we are
Speaker 2: gonna try and figure out what kind of magic Gary
Speaker 2: would play if Gary played magic. But the only way
Speaker 2: I can explain that to him is by similaring them
Speaker 2: to video games that I know that you like. So
Speaker 2: we're gonna combine our two loves and we're gonna see
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about like how magic decks work mechanically,
Speaker 2: which ones are more interesting, what you're in for when
Speaker 2: you're gonna try and play them. We're gonna condense that
Speaker 2: whole conversation down. Hopefully the veterans are gonna have something
Speaker 2: to be entertained with and have something to show their
Speaker 2: newbie friends, and the newbie friends that they eventually show
Speaker 2: them to will get excited to play the game, as
Speaker 2: I assume you will as well, because I've been practicing
Speaker 2: this all day and I'm sure that it's going to
Speaker 2: be fine.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited just to finally finally talk about a
Speaker 1: deck and me in the same sentence.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: It's so hard just to get to that point with
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of learning and a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: to go on. Another couple of things we got to
Speaker 2: touch on before the pre shows over it. Lil Brookman,
Speaker 2: how how long are we doing on the clock to
Speaker 2: have time for a quick story? He says, yes, okay, nice.
Speaker 2: So I promised I was gonna tell this story last week.
Speaker 2: Yes you did so last excited last week we talked
Speaker 2: about secret Layers. Yes, secret layers, very limited run format,
Speaker 2: all the stuff. So I went out to buy one
Speaker 2: of them a couple of weeks ago when they went
Speaker 2: on sale, right, I didn't set an alarm, but like
Speaker 2: I was looking at my clock, I made sure I
Speaker 2: got in.
Speaker 1: So when you say said out, are we talking to
Speaker 1: lgs or are we talking online?
Speaker 2: Only available online?
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 2: So I'm online. It goes onto the website. I know
Speaker 2: that things are going to sell out real fast. Because
Speaker 2: I want the one that everybody wants. We got to
Speaker 2: make sure I get it. So it goes on. I
Speaker 2: scroll down, add it to my cart, go through the thing.
Speaker 2: Wait on the online lineup because you wait in line online. Now,
Speaker 2: buying online doesn't even save you from waiting in line anymore.
Speaker 1: What's the point, I know, what are you even doing?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 1: Sorry?
Speaker 2: So blah blah blah blah blah. Check out, everything happens,
Speaker 2: everything works. They say, congratulations, you are now the proud
Speaker 2: owner of the single secret layer that you wanted Brando, congratulations,
Speaker 2: will ship it off to your right away. Oh I'm
Speaker 2: so excited. Oh man, I got this thing I wanted.
Speaker 2: And then the PayPal notification comes in saying, hey, you
Speaker 2: have paid three hundred and eighteen dollars to Wizards of
Speaker 2: the Coast. Oh boy, And I looks at my phone
Speaker 2: and I goes, pardon what, Because I know shipping to
Speaker 2: Canada is ridiculous. We joke about it lots, and it
Speaker 2: is insane, but like, it's not that bad. Right from
Speaker 2: forty dollars to three hundred and seventeen dollars, that's many dollars,
Speaker 2: big jump, many dollars. So I goes in. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck did I order? So I goes down
Speaker 2: and longtime Cecio National eds are going to know this
Speaker 2: because this has happened to me a non zero number
Speaker 2: of times. Where in my haste to add the one
Speaker 2: secret where I wanted to my cart and then purchase it,
Speaker 2: I added all five to my cart and purchased them
Speaker 2: and as we all know that we.
Speaker 1: Went through fully purchased.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are no refunds on Secret Layers. So I
Speaker 2: have all five Secret Layers on the way to my
Speaker 2: house and it's awful and god damn it, like I
Speaker 2: can't be trusted with anything.
Speaker 1: Are you sort of happy though? Like the like.
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't really want them, Like I don't
Speaker 2: the one. I wanted the one, and I'm sure I thought.
Speaker 1: You were just getting screwed out of the money. At
Speaker 1: least you got something for them.
Speaker 2: I did get something for the money, but man, it
Speaker 2: just like.
Speaker 1: How that bad of secret Layers?
Speaker 2: Yes for me because it don't want them. If you
Speaker 2: don't want something, then.
Speaker 1: You definitely don't want to put money into.
Speaker 2: Yeah what are you doing? So? I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll trade them, maybe I'll give them away. I
Speaker 2: don't know what I'm gonna do with them, but I
Speaker 2: got them, and I feel like an eating How can
Speaker 2: it be so difficult to shop online? Everything's so big
Speaker 2: and like there's a color and you know what it is. Man,
Speaker 2: I just got you have so many chances to reread
Speaker 2: what you've ordered.
Speaker 1: You said it perfectly. Online isn't online anymore? Online is
Speaker 1: just reality. We went from having no lineups online to
Speaker 1: having lineups online. We went from having no commercials online
Speaker 1: to all the commercials online. Everything our reality is now
Speaker 1: online and it's just as poopy. So we gotta fix that.
Speaker 1: We gotta kick in the butt some Oh man, I
Speaker 1: can say, ass, I'm kicking the ass. I forgot where
Speaker 1: I'm at.
Speaker 2: Either, we're on do whatever we want out here, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you will appreciate this. Actually, do you know what? The
Speaker 2: date that Skynett becomes self aware and takes over is
Speaker 2: August nineteenth.
Speaker 1: We made it through Baby hold On. We did defeat Skye.
Speaker 2: Yes, we beat them, did man Like, I don't know?
Speaker 1: That makes me so happy?
Speaker 2: Was it number three where we find out that oh no, oops,
Speaker 2: sor I only beat it a little bit? In number two?
Speaker 2: We're ret conning the happy ending of number two and
Speaker 2: the supreme sacrifice, the final sportsenegger.
Speaker 1: And get used to because we're gonna keep doing that
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over. Nothing matters. Everything sucks.
Speaker 1: That's what's kine to Yorinator movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is terror. Those were good movies. Man, you
Speaker 2: learned a thing like the whole no.
Speaker 1: Fate dude, he's talking about all the time. That's the
Speaker 1: first time I cried watching a movie when he dies
Speaker 1: the thumb going down.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, that wasn't for me. It was when
Speaker 2: Optimist Prime died. For me, I couldn't. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: seeing my dad get killed on TV. Like, that's not
Speaker 2: how it is. I wasn't there for that, dude, that's
Speaker 2: not my thing.
Speaker 1: Minimus Prime over Oh, I like that.
Speaker 2: That was really good. Optimis Is you're Pappy, then I
Speaker 2: would I would be Minimist.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was afraid You're gonna call me rohdomous and I'd
Speaker 2: have to just be sad, just beast and eat that
Speaker 2: beer can over there. That's what I do.
Speaker 1: Oh man, you better get us out of here.
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here quickly. We should have
Speaker 2: people interact with the show. So this time I'm thinking
Speaker 2: on the show, I'm gonna tell you a story. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell Gary a story to lead us into what
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about. I have built the deck I
Speaker 2: always wanted, and it does exactly what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Love that, but it's I'm questioning is it what I
Speaker 2: actually wanted?
Speaker 1: Oh? And so you went through all the work, you
Speaker 1: got to the finish line. Yeah, and it's now your
Speaker 1: second guess.
Speaker 2: Not only does it do everything I wanted to do,
Speaker 2: it does it really really really well?
Speaker 1: Is this a case of doing it too well?
Speaker 2: I think so. But if I tune it back, it's
Speaker 2: not doing what I want it to do anymore. And
Speaker 2: what I wanted to do isn't win Immediately. I want
Speaker 2: it to do the thing that the deck does, but
Speaker 2: it turns out that the thing that the deck does
Speaker 2: is just really really really good. So my question to
Speaker 2: everybody that's in the nation is have you ever done that?
Speaker 2: Have you ever thought like, Man, I'm so excited for this,
Speaker 2: and you just build it to do the thing and
Speaker 2: you're not building it to win, You're not building it
Speaker 2: to to crush all your friends. You're just this is
Speaker 2: the deck I've always wanted. Let's build it. And then
Speaker 2: it's like, ah shit, like I nobody wants to play
Speaker 2: against this, this is this isn't good.
Speaker 1: I've gone too far.
Speaker 2: I've gone too far in the in this direction. And like,
Speaker 2: what do you do in that case? Like do you
Speaker 2: just keep it and never play it?
Speaker 1: Do you? You know?
Speaker 2: So, if you've ever been in my position, What deck
Speaker 2: was it with and what did you do? I'm I'm
Speaker 2: honestly curious because I need I'm not taking this deck apart, Garry,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: You put too much work in. I've wanted it for
Speaker 1: too much.
Speaker 2: And if anybody's curious, you can also guess what commander
Speaker 2: it is too. There's all sorts of ways to get
Speaker 2: entered in, to win and just be a part of
Speaker 2: the nation, and we really appreciate all of you. And
Speaker 2: I guess are we going to be back tomorrow on
Speaker 2: what's the episode of brands?
Speaker 1: Four? Five? Five four or five five?
Speaker 2: Written on my little card here very clearly and underlined
Speaker 2: that's very important. Hell yeah, so we don't balls it
Speaker 2: up this time.
Speaker 1: So I guess we really should?
Speaker 2: Should we hit our themes on Burber bibermhm