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Ladies 29 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:50.480 and gentlemen, Tonight's adventure as we talk and continue about 30 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:53.239 the Dog Days of Summer, just in case you missed 31 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:55.640 it last week, the Dog days of Summer officially are 32 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:58.760 from that period of time right around July the third 33 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:02.480 to August, the low named in honor of the brightest 34 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:05.840 star in the heavens other than the Sun, the star Sirius, 35 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:08.719 the Magic of the Dog Star, a star that was 36 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.719 so important to the ancient Egyptians, not only in the 37 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:15.599 alignment of the pyramids, the great engineering marvel that may 38 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:19.080 have had some outside help we don't know, but during 39 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:21.759 the beginning of their period, the agricultural cycle and the 40 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:25.439 planting season, the star Sirius would rise around this particular 41 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:29.520 time of year. They called it the helical rising of Sirius. 42 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:32.879 In simple terms, it rose before the sun and it 43 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.400 was a marker. But we know the dog days of 44 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:38.840 summer right here in Phoenix. The high temperature today where 45 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.360 I am broadcasting from one hundred and seventeen degrees fahrenheit. How 46 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:45.159 about this with a low to night of ninety seven degrees, 47 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.280 humidity from eighteen percent, and a due point of fifty 48 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:52.360 eight and that is fifty eight degrees muggy. But what 49 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:54.960 about your weather? What are the concerns that you may 50 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.240 have not only about weather, but about the climate. And 51 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.479 in tonight's adventure we continue with that. One of our 52 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:04.240 most popular guests, Tom Harris, executive director of the International 53 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:08.840 Climate Science Coalition, and in simple but reform. The International 54 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:14.199 Climate Science Coalition is a nonpartisan group of independent scientists, economists, 55 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:16.879 and energy and policy experts formed back in two thousand 56 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:20.240 and eight to promote better understanding of climate science and 57 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:24.840 policy worldwide. The ICSSE aims to create an environment in 58 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:28.280 which a more rational, open discussion about climate issues emerges, 59 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:32.479 thereby moving the debate away from implementation of costly and 60 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:38.639 ineffectual climate control measures. The ICSSE encourages assisting vulnerable peoples 61 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:42.599 to adapt to climate variability in continuing scientific research into 62 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:46.759 the causes and impacts of climate change. Mister Harris lives 63 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:49.560 and works in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, where his temperature is 64 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:52.680 a balmy sixty five degrees and clear. He has some 65 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:56.639 thirty years experience as a mechanical engineer, project manager, science 66 00:03:56.639 --> 00:04:01.240 and technology communications professional and the technical trainer. He was 67 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:05.199 the science and technology advisor to former opposition senior environment 68 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:09.000 critic in Canada's Parliament from two thousand and six to 69 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:11.800 two thousand and eight, and he was the executives vector 70 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:14.520 and the executive director excuse me of the National Resources 71 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:18.879 Stewardship Project in Canada. And with that, Tom Harris, welcome 72 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:22.639 back to our journey and discussing climate and in tonight's 73 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:24.839 edition an episode, we'll get into a whole bunch of 74 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:27.839 other topics because it'll be open forum later where people 75 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:29.920 can ask their questions about many of the subjects that 76 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:34.279 we'll bring together, from avigation, from space, et cetera. Welcome 77 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:35.720 to the show, Thanks for being up here. 78 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:39.560 Yeah, yeah, it's great. One hundred and seventeen today in 79 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:43.759 Nevada in Las Vegas. Eh, wow, it's the record. 80 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:44.800 Yeah. 81 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:49.560 Phoenix, Oh, in Arizona. Okay, yeah, you can tell I'm Canadian. 82 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:52.079 I don't even know it's today, that's okay. But yeah, 83 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:54.879 if I look at Arizona, the maximum temperature was one 84 00:04:54.959 --> 00:05:00.439 hundred and twenty eight one hundred and twenty eight, yeah, 85 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:04.279 thirty two years ago in nineteen ninety four. So it's 86 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:09.560 nothing happening now. That's unusual. Unfortunately, one seventeen is not 87 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:10.800 too abnormal for you. 88 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:11.079 Is it. 89 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:14.639 No, it's not. And it's really upsetting because not only 90 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:16.879 our electric bill is going to be off the charts. 91 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:19.160 Can you imagine when you plug in your electric vehicle? 92 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:21.680 And who knows, we have one of the largest power 93 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:24.120 plants just to the west of US, a Poaloverti nuclear 94 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:27.360 power plant, which of course is now pulling in energy 95 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:31.199 and transferring it to all other needy individuals and other cities. 96 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:33.680 But the whole story we begin with you, Tom, and 97 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.079 it's so amazing to have you on these subjects because 98 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:39.519 there's so much to talk about, and throughout this program 99 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:41.879 I want to also mention first I should say, first 100 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:47.360 as a host your website ICSC dash Canada dot com, 101 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:49.920 because so many times when people call in, we want 102 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:52.199 to refer them because of the limited time that we have. 103 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:55.680 But you're a writer for so many different periodicals in 104 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.639 the digital form. Talk about a few of those, because 105 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:01.079 I think it's America Outline, which I think is where 106 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:04.199 you highlight so many of your articles. Tell people about that, 107 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:07.160 And let's dig into some of these climate issues that 108 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:10.000 are perplexing to people. And I throw this question out 109 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:13.120 to the audience, do you really feel that ism, gentlemen, 110 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:15.680 that we've been hoodwinked on so many other things. Naturally, 111 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.639 many people may just say, well, of course, we want 112 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:21.000 to keep it open and fair because maybe there are 113 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:23.920 people out there that totally disagree with the content. I 114 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:27.120 would imagine wondering why, because you seem to present and 115 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:30.199 always do a great job in presenting evidence. Because one 116 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.079 of the main things I learned from listening to you 117 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:35.240 is that we should listen to those that disagree with us. 118 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:38.199 Please continue. I think you said something that's worth a lot. 119 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.439 Yeah, for sure, And that was how I converted from 120 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:46.360 climate alarmism to climate realism. I actually listen to a scientist, 121 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:48.800 local scientist here in Ottawa who doesn't want me to 122 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:51.839 identify them, because of course, it's dangerous for people to 123 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.800 speak out against the climate scare if you're still in academia, 124 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:57.319 and that's why, of course, the main scientists who do 125 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:01.839 speak out are people who are retired. You know, americaoutlud 126 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:04.639 dot news is where most of my articles are published. 127 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:07.560 We also have a radio show there called The Other 128 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:10.120 Side of the Story, and in the past couple of 129 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:12.600 weeks we've had some young people on. Actually I was 130 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:15.720 on vacation in Spain, and so my daughter, who's the 131 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.959 master's of physics, she's pretty knowledgeable about climate as well. 132 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:23.399 She interviewed Lennel Lukin from the Heartland Institute, who's a 133 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:26.879 young engineer actually who works for Heartland, and Chris March 134 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.240 who works for the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow. He's 135 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:33.399 their meteorologist. I think he's only about twenty five. So 136 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:37.399 it's very encouraging to see young people actually speaking out 137 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:40.240 against the climate scare and in favor of a real 138 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:44.879 environmental protection. Both of them spoke actually at Heartland's International 139 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:49.680 Climate Change Conference sixteen in Washington back in April. And 140 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:52.079 you know, these are really outstanding people. I mean, I'm 141 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:54.480 seventy three. I'm not going to be around forever, so 142 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:56.839 I love it that these young people are picking up 143 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:57.319 the torch. 144 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:00.600 Let's talk about something else here. I want people to 145 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.959 understand that we're being objective here in your opinion, and 146 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:05.920 I'm a good listener on this at least I hope so. 147 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:09.000 But give us from the climate realism side some of 148 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:12.079 the issues that people should be concerned about that you 149 00:08:12.199 --> 00:08:15.240 agree because you're not denying things. You're talking in the 150 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:18.319 terms of realism. So just before we get this interview 151 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:20.399 rolling here the engine and the steep climb as we 152 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:22.839 go up a hill and then we cascade over to 153 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:25.920 the other side, give us some realism of problems that 154 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:28.439 really do exist out there. So people don't think in 155 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.800 your presentation we're going to be biased against anything that 156 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:34.639 has to do with the term climate. Please continue on that. 157 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:36.440 I think it's only fair to let that out of 158 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:37.200 that out of the back. 159 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:38.720 Yeah, for sure. 160 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:42.440 And you know we're not climate change deniers. If anything, 161 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:45.559 I'm a denial denier. I deny that I deny climate change. 162 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.200 So you know, I mean, if it weren't for if 163 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.639 it weren't for climate change, i'd be sitting under two 164 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.159 kilometers of ice because during the last during the last 165 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.320 glacial period, where I am in Canada and northern United 166 00:08:57.320 --> 00:09:00.480 States had in this case two kome is of ice 167 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:04.440 right above us. So thank goodness, we have climate change. 168 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:06.840 And in fact, we're in a very nice period right 169 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:10.000 now called an interglacial It only lasts for typically five 170 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:13.080 to ten thousand years, and we'll be coming out of 171 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.600 that and then enter into a ninety thousand year glacial period, 172 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:19.600 during which time we won't be able to live in Canada. 173 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:23.519 So yeah, climate always changes, and there's no question that 174 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:25.600 we have to help prepare for that. And a good 175 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:29.480 example is the Super al Nino that they're forecasting is 176 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:32.879 now building in the Pacific Ocean. They're saying that they'll 177 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:35.080 be Yeah, they're saying that there's going to be record 178 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:39.799 breaking global temperatures, marine heat waves, more and more ice melt. 179 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:43.480 So the bottom line is that, yeah, climate changes, and 180 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:44.919 you have to get ready for it. 181 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:45.159 You know. 182 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:47.600 The interesting thing is I was just in Europe and 183 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:51.399 they only have about twenty percent of homes with air conditioning. 184 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:56.679 You know, you have seniors homes, hospitals don't have air conditioning. 185 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:00.120 It's ridiculous. In the United States, it's ninety percent of homes. 186 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:03.039 So you have to get ready for climate change, because 187 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:06.399 it always will change. At times it will get colder, 188 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:08.639 but in the near future it's going to get pretty 189 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:11.840 darn hot because of this eel nemil. So we really 190 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:13.960 have to adapt to it and then prepare for it. 191 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:14.799 Well. 192 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:16.919 In Phoenix. Not to be funny, we carry in what 193 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.399 one hundred and twenty percent of that We make sure 194 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:21.080 we even carry one on our back, at least we 195 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:23.519 wish we could. But again, we choose to live in 196 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:26.000 this environment. But let's talk across this foreig and wide 197 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:29.480 radio broadcast network here not only the United States, but 198 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:32.159 around the nation and the world. It's so interesting and 199 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:34.159 some of your articles that you write on it, I'd like 200 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:36.519 to highlight a couple that people can go to in 201 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:39.919 greater detail, climate and armism and the mental health of 202 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:43.080 young people. You write an article here on this particular 203 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.600 website that we've been talking about here America Loud. This 204 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:49.000 comes to you and to the audience back in watch 205 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:51.960 July the twenty second, so it's fresh. Give us the synopsis. 206 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.279 It sounds interesting as to what you dig into here. 207 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:55.639 Yeah, that's right. 208 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:59.399 Well, they've done various polls, especially in Canada because Canada 209 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:01.519 is still rapid up in the climate scare. Happily, the 210 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:04.480 United States is backing off of it, which is really 211 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.039 quite wonderful, and there's some very good developments we can 212 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:10.480 talk about later on that. But in Canada they find 213 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:14.039 that a very high fraction of young people are depressed 214 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:17.879 to the point of clinical problems, where it actually interferes 215 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:20.960 with their ability to live life because they're so worried 216 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.159 about climate change. One of the impacts, of course, is 217 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:26.960 that less and less young people are having children themselves. 218 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:29.639 And one of the reasons. One of my sisters, for example, 219 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:32.120 she told me, until she finally realized there was no 220 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.720 climate emergency, that she wasn't going to have children because, 221 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:37.960 in fact, you know, we had to save the earth 222 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:40.840 from climate change, you know. Vogue magazine, and we see 223 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:44.559 this across a lot of left wing magazines. Vogue magazine 224 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:51.159 said the greatest act of environmental terrorism is having a child. 225 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:50.840 You know. 226 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:54.320 So this is really a very serious thing, and in 227 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:56.639 a way it's a form of child abuse because they 228 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:59.480 come through high school and they only hear one side 229 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:03.919 of the story. My daughter, the physics major, she's actually 230 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:07.320 thirty three now, but she saw al Gore's film. I 231 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:10.519 think she said five times over her high school career, 232 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.879 you know, so they don't expose it to the other side. 233 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:15.639 And one of the main points we made in this 234 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:19.279 article that you referenced is that there's plenty of information 235 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:23.279 out there. There's one thing called the Climate Change Reconsidered 236 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.000 Series of reports, and people can check it out at 237 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:29.919 climate Change Reconsidered dot org. And they've been putting out 238 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:34.639 reports which bring together thousands of references and hundreds of 239 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:37.279 scientists from all over the world that show that there 240 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:40.080 is no climate emergency. And I have to give real 241 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:44.480 credit to the Climate Change Reconsidered Series because as early 242 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:48.000 as night as twenty eighteen, which is when one of 243 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.720 their volumes came out, it was the one on fossil fuels, 244 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:53.600 They said that the forecast that was being used to 245 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:57.519 scare everybody and to generate all these massive headlines, which 246 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:01.559 was a scenario of massive increase in coal use and 247 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:05.440 therefore huge temperature rises. It's called RCP eight point five. 248 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.799 They said, point blank, this is ridiculous. This would require 249 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:14.960 more than burning all the fossil fuels on the whole planet. 250 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:17.480 You still wouldn't get our You still wouldn't get our 251 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:20.399 CP eight point five. So They pointed out as far 252 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.360 ago as eight years ago that this was nonsense, and finally, 253 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.600 finally the UN has backed off and said, yeah, it's 254 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:32.159 a ridiculous forecast because it would require increasing coal use 255 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:36.120 by something like five times, and that simply hasn't happened. 256 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:38.639 I mean, we've had a massive conversion to natural gas, 257 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:41.360 for example. So you know, this is something people have 258 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:44.879 got to look up Climate Change Reconsidered dot org and 259 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.919 what you'll find is that this is what the media 260 00:13:47.960 --> 00:13:52.000 has been ignoring forever. It's it's just as significant as 261 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.559 the IPCC. It's put out by the NIPCC, which I 262 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:59.600 was laughing. You know, it's not not an IPCC, it's 263 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:03.360 the Governmental International Panel on Climate Change. So that's what 264 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:05.720 young people should be exposed to. They should be given 265 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:08.879 the whole story and then make up their own mind. 266 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:12.639 Our Theater of the Mind continues on the Doctor Sky Experience. 267 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:15.960 Always great guests, as you tell us my email Dr 268 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:20.399 Sky Doctor Sky at WADC Radio dot com, And ladies 269 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:22.679 and gentlemen, if you have questions for our special guest, 270 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:25.519 who is he? For the two hours of this particular 271 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:29.399 as we call it, Tonight's Adventure, Tom Harris the executive 272 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.840 director of the International Climate Science Coalition. All I ask 273 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:34.360 is when you give us a call at one eight 274 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:36.559 hundred and eight four eight nine two two two, that 275 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:38.240 we at least try to stay on measure for at 276 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:41.559 least these particular segments, because we will wander right tom 277 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.639 into so many other subjects that you have some expertise 278 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:47.039 in and we'd like to share with the audience kind 279 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:49.320 of an open forum as we move forward. In the 280 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:53.080 radio show, Climate Alarmism and the Mental Health of young people, 281 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:55.440 you've explained that to us. I think that's pretty interesting. 282 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:58.039 Another article just to give us a quick summation, and 283 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.279 I'm going to read the headline Beyond the Bear, America's 284 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:04.360 oil industry and the road ahead, relating that to what 285 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:06.080 you talk about. What's the details? 286 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.279 Well, you know, that's interesting. That was an interview with 287 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:13.000 Linnea Lucan, and she was previously a petroleum engineer. I 288 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:15.320 guess she still is, well if she's working for Heartland. 289 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:18.000 And it turns out the United States, because of fracking, 290 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:21.559 they have come across, of course vast quantity of oil 291 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.360 and natural gas, and the United States now is a 292 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:27.799 net exporter of natural gas, or I should say petroleum 293 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:31.279 in general, and this is because of fracking. Fracking has 294 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:34.840 been a wonderful find. You know, back in Jimmy Carter's 295 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:37.360 day when you were importing a lot of oil from 296 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:39.759 the Middle East, you know, he put on his sweater 297 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:41.879 and he said, we all have to conserve energy. But 298 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.000 things have massively changed. A lot of people will say, well, 299 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:47.519 fracking is dangerous, it's going to destroy the water table. 300 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.000 You got to realize the water table only goes from 301 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:52.440 about surface level, because you know, you have swamps and 302 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:56.279 things down only a few hundred feet, whereas they're drilling 303 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:59.279 for fracking, you know, a mile down, I mean the 304 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.799 way down below. And so this is a very safe technology. 305 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:07.240 They have minor you know, so small you can't feel 306 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:10.159 them at the surface. There's minor tremors of course, because 307 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:12.559 they're breaking up the rock to get the oil out 308 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:16.039 of it. But yeah, the fracking is a huge boon 309 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:19.240 for the United States. The Marcella's shale, for example, in 310 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:23.000 the northeastern United States. Yeah, that is that has really 311 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:26.320 made the United States, well, we don't really care how 312 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:27.759 much oil do we get from Iran? 313 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:31.320 Almost for Tom Tom in legacy media though, so if 314 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:33.600 you would agree with this statement. I've done the research too, 315 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:35.279 but you have much more of a focus like a 316 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:38.600 laser on this. Many in the legacy media do blame 317 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.720 the whole concept of many earthquakes somewhat severe on the 318 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:45.320 continuance of fracking. How would you respond, I mean, you 319 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:47.960 just gave us the point that it's not really dangerous 320 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:50.679 to the environment, and thus what not really setting off 321 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.720 anything but minor quakes is not an effective correct statement. 322 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.799 Yeah, that's right. You can measure them with instruments, but 323 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:59.360 you can't feel them. They're very, very small, and of 324 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:02.559 course they're down a mile deep into the earth. They 325 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:04.480 you know, they have to be sensible in where they're 326 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:06.079 going to frack. You're not going to frack right on 327 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:09.839 a fault line, for example. But generally speaking it is 328 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:13.319 extremely safe. You know, they haven't really had any major accidents. 329 00:17:13.640 --> 00:17:16.960 And of course, you know, the silly thing is you 330 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:19.920 look at wind and solar power for example. You know, 331 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:22.519 with the big storms that recently hit I believe it 332 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.720 was California, it destroyed many many acres of wind farms. 333 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:28.799 But you just don't have that with fracking. You don't 334 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:32.559 have that with petroleum in general. So and you know, 335 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:34.920 one of the things I find really incredible. They call 336 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:38.240 it green energy. And if you watch Michael Moore's film 337 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:40.839 Planet of the Humans, you can see that wind and 338 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:43.400 solar power when you actually look at how they're made, 339 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:45.920 you know, with the cobalt from the children and the 340 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.359 congo and all the different minerals and things that are needed, 341 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.440 and the huge areas that have to be used, you know, 342 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.240 one hundred times more than a nuclear station, for example. 343 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:58.640 You find that wind and solar are the least friendly 344 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:02.680 energy sources on the planet. So the green energy label 345 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:04.920 is just nineteen eighty four newspeak. 346 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:07.480 Well, there's a hell of a controversy over the whole 347 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:09.480 windmill thing. I mean, that's for subjects that we could 348 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:12.799 go into and spend many hours on. But are you seeing, 349 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:14.839 I mean from your research out there, there are lots 350 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:17.680 lots of people are just abandoning the wind concept. I mean, 351 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:21.119 the ROI from that apparently is not what anybody thought 352 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:23.720 correct because if you don't get a steady wind, you 353 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.240 just put up a lot of expensive stuff and you're 354 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:29.000 not getting your ROI. How do you dig into that deeper? 355 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:29.960 What's the latest on that? 356 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.200 Well, you know, it's interesting a few years ago Robert F. Kennedy, 357 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:36.240 of course, who was a junior, who was a very 358 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:39.039 strong climate alarmist. He's not talking about it now, he's 359 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:43.119 following Trump's directions, but he said, look, when you build 360 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:46.440 a wind farm, you're building natural gas stations because the 361 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:49.519 wind only has a capacity factor. It only operates about 362 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:52.079 thirty percent of the time, so seventy percent of the 363 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:55.039 time the wind's either too weak or it's too strong. 364 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:57.359 So I mean it's a fairly narrow window that you 365 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:00.519 can operate wind turbines in. So I have something that 366 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.720 only gives you power thirty percent of the time on average. 367 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:06.839 You need to have a reliable backup so you don't 368 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:09.759 get away from fossil fuels anyways, because you need something 369 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:12.599 that can ramp up and down quickly to compensate for 370 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:15.480 the wind change, and that would be natural gas. Now, 371 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.039 the problem, doctor S guy is that if you run 372 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:21.440 a natural gas station at a continuous rate, you get 373 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:24.839 high efficiency, low pollution. But that's not how these are 374 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:27.079 being run. These have to go up and down and 375 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:29.359 up and down, as if you're driving a car down 376 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.480 the street at two miles an hour, sixty miles an 377 00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:33.440 hour ten miles an hour, you know you're gonna have 378 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:36.960 terrible Yeah, you have terrible gas mileage. So the bottom 379 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:39.160 line is you don't get away from fossil fuels, you 380 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:41.880 just simply use the plants very inefficiently. 381 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:44.359 Well, let's do this. I'm going to be reading this, 382 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:46.039 and again, I don't want the audience to think that 383 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:49.119 I'm just a genius. That may be purported, but that's 384 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.519 certainly not the case. The concept of weather and climate. 385 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:53.839 Let me just read this, and I want to get 386 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:57.039 your definition further. Weather the state of the atmosphere at 387 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:01.440 a place in time with regard to heat, drying it, pressure, sunshine, 388 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:04.960 wind speed, rain, et cetera. And moving on to climate, 389 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:08.599 the average weather in a given area over a longer 390 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:11.359 period of time. And let's say in this what I'm 391 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:14.720 reading over a period of thirty years, and there's five 392 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:17.319 types of climate that people need to know about in 393 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:22.359 your of course, extrapolation, tropical, temperate, arid, continental, and polar. 394 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:24.880 What would you add to those that from your side 395 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:28.920 studying it with the International Climate Science Coalition, Is that 396 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:32.359 a fair and accurate reporting of what those are? 397 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:33.200 Oh? 398 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:36.680 Yeah, that's actually very good, And you know that's why 399 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:39.119 a single heat wave or even five years of heat 400 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:41.799 waves doesn't prove climate change. You'd have to have that 401 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:44.519