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Speaker 2: Does your button have a have dump on it? It has.
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Speaker 3: It has like a little engraving that's got like a
Speaker 3: bunch of symbols that are I guess meant to be
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Speaker 2: So it's kind of funny. So I mean it makes sense,
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Speaker 2: this microphone on. I don't touch anything else because I
Speaker 2: don't want to break something. I'm assuming this board costs
Speaker 2: more than my salary and some But it actually the
Speaker 2: button itself, like the manufacturer of this humongous board, it
Speaker 2: actually says dump. Am I child for thinking that's funny,
Speaker 2: I know, it's very funny. And then it does make
Speaker 2: sense though, because the actual button says it. But then
Speaker 2: somebody has put a piece of tape here that also
Speaker 2: just says dump on it that way, because again, if
Speaker 2: you're scrambling to find a button really really quickly, it's
Speaker 2: the dump button. Any other button, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: you might want to get to it quick, but like
Speaker 2: if you're looking for the dumb button, it's because somebody
Speaker 2: said something on the air that they're not supposed to say.
Speaker 2: I missed the one we had at the old studio.
Speaker 2: That's an engine start. Yeah, they didn't they like connect
Speaker 2: something to it like that wasn't on the board. They
Speaker 2: actually had like an external button, rit, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I mean it literally looked like they took something out
Speaker 3: of a really old car and hooked it up to
Speaker 3: a wire and you could just grab it and hold
Speaker 3: it and then you know, push it.
Speaker 2: It's one of those buttons that like in a movie,
Speaker 2: if it just appeared somewhere like it would probably do
Speaker 2: something crazy, right kind of what reminded me of All Right, Uh, look,
Speaker 2: I have no problem saying this. It's not me trying
Speaker 2: to rain on the parade or be a fun sucker.
Speaker 2: But I feel like Louisville football season hasn't really started yet.
Speaker 2: I'm encouraged by everything that I've seen. I feel great
Speaker 2: about where the team is. You're two and zero now
Speaker 2: in the top twenties. Some people are still looking at
Speaker 2: you as a contender for the ACC maybe even thinking
Speaker 2: you could be a dark horse for the playoff. And
Speaker 2: now that's not a crazy thing to say because the
Speaker 2: playoff has expanded to twelve teams. But you know, Louisvill'
Speaker 2: is the only team in the AEC that hasn't played
Speaker 2: a powerfour team yet, and again we blame that on
Speaker 2: Indiana because they were supposed to play Indiana and Indiana
Speaker 2: backed out, And now that's why we had Jacksonville State.
Speaker 2: So it's not anybody's fault, there's nothing you can't control it.
Speaker 2: But I just I feel a little bit of envy
Speaker 2: knowing that other teams have learned about their team a
Speaker 2: little bit more than us, in fact a lot more
Speaker 2: than us. Because again, Louisville, you could convince yourself whatever
Speaker 2: you want in these first two games. Now I think
Speaker 2: you'd be a real fool to try to convince yourself
Speaker 2: that Louisville isn't a good team and that like you're worried,
Speaker 2: But some people are like that by nature. Louisville took
Speaker 2: care of business against a really bad inferior opponent Austin
Speaker 2: p And yeah, they weren't flawless. They were in too
Speaker 2: many third and lungs against Jacksonville State. Their quarterback ended
Speaker 2: up running more than I would have ever wanted a
Speaker 2: quarterback at a place like Jacksonville State to run on Louiell.
Speaker 2: But for me to actually feel like it wouldn't be genuine,
Speaker 2: I would be lying if I told you that I
Speaker 2: was discouraged or concerned, because that's just what these games are.
Speaker 2: And we had a caller in the postgame show that
Speaker 2: I thought did a really good job of kind of
Speaker 2: reminding me, you know, in a different way, as to
Speaker 2: why I hate these games, because he acknowledged some things
Speaker 2: that were kind of concerning to him. But you know,
Speaker 2: like you expect yourself to be perfect in these kind
Speaker 2: of games, and that's impossible to do. You know, if
Speaker 2: you had that kind of a game against a bad
Speaker 2: ACC team, you'd feel great. But because it's Jacksonville State,
Speaker 2: relatively new to the FCS, and you could just tell
Speaker 2: by visually looking at the team on the field if
Speaker 2: they're not the same level as you like, you just
Speaker 2: you have that expectation to be perfect, even though you
Speaker 2: know that's unrealistic. But I think when you play those
Speaker 2: two teams back to back to start the season, I'm
Speaker 2: not really sure. Louisville. I mean, I guess they could
Speaker 2: have done better, right, they could have won eighty enough
Speaker 2: in the other day, But I feel like they're in
Speaker 2: a really good place right now, and that's all you
Speaker 2: can do when you play those kind of teams. All
Speaker 2: you can do is beat them down, and Louisville did
Speaker 2: exactly that. Certainly there's areas where maybe they could have
Speaker 2: been a little better, but I think any any real
Speaker 2: reaction or any real concern from that would be would
Speaker 2: be nitpicking, to be honest with you. So now we
Speaker 2: got a bye week to where the first three weeks,
Speaker 2: I mean, in four weeks, if you consider the week zero, right,
Speaker 2: it'll be some teams will have played four games and
Speaker 2: Louisville has yet to really get started because again, like
Speaker 2: they just the schedule set up that way. Now Georgia
Speaker 2: Tech will be a real game. It's a conference game.
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech of course now outside the top twenty five
Speaker 2: after losing the Syracuse on Saturday, But hey, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to complain about Georgia Tech being unranked.
Speaker 2: It's still a game where you get a chance to
Speaker 2: kind of size up yourself against a league opponent. So look,
Speaker 2: I'm happy Louisville' two and oh, even though those wins
Speaker 2: came against teams that give you, you know, not a whole
Speaker 2: lot you can take from It could be worse. You
Speaker 2: could be Kentucky and be going into a game where
Speaker 2: you felt like one you were gonna win and you
Speaker 2: might win big. You knew how important it was. I
Speaker 2: mean it was. It was labeled as the most important
Speaker 2: game of the season by the crew on KSR. And
Speaker 2: I get why because that's if you feel like you're
Speaker 2: gonna get back to being a bowl team, because you
Speaker 2: do have a really tough schedule where you play some
Speaker 2: of the best teams in the country. That's when you
Speaker 2: got to get and not only did you not get it,
Speaker 2: you got embarrassed. I mean you got worked that was
Speaker 2: as sloppy and is poorly prepared as a Stoops team
Speaker 2: I've seen in a long time. I mean, what makes
Speaker 2: it even worse is that South Carolina isn't good at all.
Speaker 2: South Carolina should have lost old dominion. I mean the
Speaker 2: Kentucky was nearly double digit favorites for a reason because
Speaker 2: that's how badly everybody thought South Carolina sucked and they
Speaker 2: didn't even do anything special against you. I mean, we're
Speaker 2: gonna be honest here, South Carolina and Kentucky need to
Speaker 2: be saying there thank you to the Southeastern Conference because
Speaker 2: there's other teams out there given the league a bad look.
Speaker 2: Auburn losing at home to col A and m losing
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame at home, and then Notre Dame losing
Speaker 2: the NIU Arizona State embarrassed Mississippi State, and yet the
Speaker 2: two worst offenses in college football after two weeks are
Speaker 2: South Carolina and Kentucky. And they just played each other.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was not a great display on ABC
Speaker 2: as the SEC made its debut. Right two SEC teams
Speaker 2: making their debut on ABC, and that's the performance that
Speaker 2: you got. I mean, neither team looked good, but South
Speaker 2: Carolina their defensive line dominated Kentucky's lowly offensive line and
Speaker 2: made more plays. I mean, and that's what's got to
Speaker 2: be the most demoralizing thing for Kentucky fans is that,
Speaker 2: you know, you just watched your team lose what thirty
Speaker 2: four to six to a bad South Carolina team who
Speaker 2: didn't do anything special to beat you. They weren't good.
Speaker 2: They just you know, they took advantage of your poor
Speaker 2: offensive line play and they were able to take advantage
Speaker 2: of all the mistakes that you made. So I don't
Speaker 2: think that Kentucky football is looking at a coaching change
Speaker 2: after the unless Mark Tuobs just simply wants to do
Speaker 2: something else, and I'm surprised that it didn't get more
Speaker 2: run when he made comments about how he's doesn't know
Speaker 2: much longer he can do it, and all he has
Speaker 2: to it's all nil. He's doing everything on his own,
Speaker 2: and he wishes he could just coach football.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: He says that coming off of an offseason where he
Speaker 2: had the Texas A and M jobs, So he thought
Speaker 2: only for them to say, yeah, sorry, we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to riscind the offer, because you know, we realized letting
Speaker 2: our fans know that you're the guy we were gonna
Speaker 2: go with, Yeah, that wouldn't go well, So we're going
Speaker 2: to go in a different direction. Like that's what happened.
Speaker 2: Anybody telling you otherwise is lying that's what happened. So
Speaker 2: he's probably pretty pretty empty because I think he thought
Speaker 2: he found that would have been a perfect exit strategy
Speaker 2: for him, Right, go to A and M, get a
Speaker 2: lot of money. You've got resources there with Nil that
Speaker 2: you'll never have to worry about like you will at Kentucky.
Speaker 2: You can say you left Kentucky in a great place.
Speaker 2: Even in a year where they were underwhelming, they still
Speaker 2: knocked off their rival I mean that night when they
Speaker 2: beat Kentucky or when they beat Louisville, that was the
Speaker 2: night what everybody thought Stoops was gone, and then you
Speaker 2: know he wasn't. He just looks to be pretty dejected,
Speaker 2: and I you know, I could see them having their
Speaker 2: worst season with Mark Stoops in quite some time. And
Speaker 2: what and most of that is going to be due
Speaker 2: to the fact that they have a really tough schedule
Speaker 2: and anybody that's got maybe four of the top six
Speaker 2: teams on their schedule coming up in the next couple
Speaker 2: of months is going to be feeling like, you know,
Speaker 2: that sucks, right, because it does. But also, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think this is just another maybe
Speaker 2: this is a small thing, but to me, this is
Speaker 2: another example of this guy. He's not energized right now.
Speaker 2: He doesn't seem hungry to prove doubters wrong and to
Speaker 2: salvage this season. I feel like he's just kind of
Speaker 2: to me, he just sounds like he's going through the motions.
Speaker 2: I think we get the opportunity to play it for
Speaker 2: the top six in the coming weeks, so that's a joy.
Speaker 2: So look, he's done great things at Kentucky. If he
Speaker 2: wins three games this year and moves on because they're
Speaker 2: not moving on from him. He would have to move on.
Speaker 2: They're never firing him. I mean, he'd have to be
Speaker 2: bad for many, many years for them to fire him.
Speaker 2: But if he decides to move on, you can still
Speaker 2: look back and say that that was a successful season
Speaker 2: for Mark I'm sorry, a successful tenure for Marx Stoops.
Speaker 2: But it's all based off of where Kentucky was prior
Speaker 2: to him, and that matters. That matters when you evaluate him.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. But you know, they felt
Speaker 2: superior to South Carolina. They feel as if they had
Speaker 2: surpassed them despite losing two in a row going into Saturday.
Speaker 2: There's not many schools when it comes to football they
Speaker 2: can look at and feel like they're better.
Speaker 1: Then.
Speaker 2: They've looked at South Carolina like that for a while.
Speaker 2: I think they've looked at Missouri like that for a while,
Speaker 2: and maybe, you know, maybe they shouldn't after Missouri had
Speaker 2: a great year last year and it's probably gonna beat
Speaker 2: him this year. But I don't think Kentucky fans have
Speaker 2: been this down on Stoops since the first few years
Speaker 2: he was there, and they were like this last year,
Speaker 2: he said pony up when fans were getting upset about
Speaker 2: them getting embarrassed by Georgia, And that was a really
Speaker 2: stupid thing to say, and you can't take that away.
Speaker 2: It's out there. And then when you lose, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be something people, you know, should we pony up more?
Speaker 2: And I'm sure Kentucky fans were making those kind of
Speaker 2: jokes and whatnot, but I mean, he said that, and
Speaker 2: then last year they were underwhelming. I mean, they weren't good,
Speaker 2: and then they beat Louisville in a year where they
Speaker 2: weren't supposed to top ten, went on the road for
Speaker 2: Stoops a big deal, and that gave him some new life.
Speaker 2: That clearly changed how they viewed that season. And I'm
Speaker 2: not even saying that to say, you know, we're your
Speaker 2: super Bowl Like that's how this works, man, Like, if
Speaker 2: Louisville's going seven and five annually, but one of those
Speaker 2: seven wins is Kentucky, you're gonna view that differently. You
Speaker 2: just are like that, That's just how this works. Not
Speaker 2: to say everybody's the same, but most fans, nobody's gonna
Speaker 2: be aiming, let's go seven and five, that'll be a
Speaker 2: great year. But that win does mean more than most
Speaker 2: of the others on your schedule. It just does, especially
Speaker 2: around here when it comes to bragging rights. So that
Speaker 2: gave him, you know, some new life. Then they go
Speaker 2: loose to Clemson in a bowl game. And then this
Speaker 2: is something I heard briefly on Matt's postgame show Saturday
Speaker 2: when I was heading out of here from our postgame show,
Speaker 2: and this makes total sense. Like he didn't break down
Speaker 2: any numbers, but this makes sense. People did pony up.
Speaker 2: They did. You know, Kentucky didn't get a whole lot
Speaker 2: of transfer portal love as far as the rankings and whatnot,
Speaker 2: because they didn't add that many guys. They did add Vandergriff,
Speaker 2: which I'm sure was a big in Il contribution to
Speaker 2: get him from Georgia. They brought in a kid from
Speaker 2: another kid from Georgia on the defensive line. Like they
Speaker 2: got some guys that Nil clearly needed to be in
Speaker 2: a good place for them to get. But I think
Speaker 2: a lot of the pony and up money that came
Speaker 2: in was to keep guys like Dion Walker there, to
Speaker 2: keep guys like Berrying Brown there and Dane Key. So
Speaker 2: if you do have people that did in fact pony
Speaker 2: up and then you come out and get blasted by
Speaker 2: a bad South Carolina team, Like it sounds it sounds
Speaker 2: over the top to say this is like as low
Speaker 2: as fans have been with Stoops since you know, he
Speaker 2: got there and didn't win. But I kind of feel
Speaker 2: like it is. And yeah, it's only week two, But
Speaker 2: let's look at their schedule the rest of the way.
Speaker 2: Who do they have coming in this weekend? Oh, yeah, Georgia,
Speaker 2: a team that you know might be able to name
Speaker 2: the score if they want to. And then who do
Speaker 2: they have after that? Ohio, they'll win that, and then
Speaker 2: Ole miss the top five team. I mean their schedule
Speaker 2: right now, the only teams that you feel like, you
Speaker 2: know you can beat is Ohio in Murray State. And yeah,
Speaker 2: they're gonna claim they can beat Louisville still, And that's
Speaker 2: why I get I get, you know, I get PTSD
Speaker 2: from last year because Louisville losing to them last year
Speaker 2: will make it to where they could be three and
Speaker 2: eight going into that game and still feel like, well,
Speaker 2: we'll beat Louisville And that may be ridiculous to say,
Speaker 2: but and I know last year's game in the year
Speaker 2: before that, and the year before that had nothing to
Speaker 2: do with this year's game. But like last year was
Speaker 2: the was the year for Louisville to end the streak,
Speaker 2: and they didn't, and it's gonna make it to where
Speaker 2: they could have the worst season ever. They could get
Speaker 2: beat by one hundred points on Saturday against Georgia and
Speaker 2: they might not be real loud and chesty. They'd probably be,
Speaker 2: you know, down in a major way, but they'll still
Speaker 2: be able to claim bragging rights and scoreboard against Louisville.
Speaker 2: And I just wish that would have ended when it
Speaker 2: should have ended last year. But as I said earlier,
Speaker 2: because I did us some people asking this question when
Speaker 2: I was talking about, you know, if the more Kentucky
Speaker 2: and I'll say this, like I'm just being honest with
Speaker 2: you as a Louisville fan, the more Kentucky sucks this
Speaker 2: year and the more Louisville succeeds if they do, in
Speaker 2: fact have a good year. And when we get closer
Speaker 2: to that game, it looks as if one team's gonna
Speaker 2: have a much different record in a much different situation
Speaker 2: than the other. That actually makes me get more workorried
Speaker 2: about the game, not because like I'm doubting Louisville and
Speaker 2: their ability to beat them. But it would be like
Speaker 2: the night the nightmare scenario, Like if you weres a
Speaker 2: somehow lose to them this year when they they were
Speaker 2: really bad and you were really good, I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't even know. My head would explode. I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: the I would have to just start the postgame show
Speaker 2: and just you know, sing songs for you instead of
Speaker 2: giving analysis because I don't know what I would say
Speaker 2: now realistically speaking, if that situation did play out and
Speaker 2: they're just you know, and I know people say throw
Speaker 2: the records out the window when it's a rivalry, and
Speaker 2: that's a cliche, and there have been examples as far
Speaker 2: as results in a rivalry where it, you know, it
Speaker 2: makes sense why that's a cliche. But like if Kentucky's
Speaker 2: got three wins in Week twelve against Louisville and louisvill
Speaker 2: was a non win team and Louisville somehow got up
Speaker 2: like seventeen or twenty one, that's the kind of scenario
Speaker 2: that late in a year where a team with three
Speaker 2: wins in their last game that's already down big, they're
Speaker 2: gonna fold. That's just that's how sports works. Man like you,
Speaker 2: the human element would kick in. You can't convince yourself
Speaker 2: we're gonna be okay because we've proven ourselves to be
Speaker 2: able to come back and win games this year. Oh wait, no,
Speaker 2: we haven't. We suck like so, I'm not even going
Speaker 2: there as far as talking about the matchup. But the
Speaker 2: more I'm just gonna say it, if Kentucky continues to
Speaker 2: really underwhelm and Louisville ends up having a really good year,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be worried about that game, just just because
Speaker 2: you know. I'm I'm that's me. I'm just being honest
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Speaker 4: Hey, buddy? I should I I think that Steps has
Speaker 4: checked out.
Speaker 2: I think it certainly sounds like, yeah.
Speaker 4: He checked out, and the fans we're all we I mean,
Speaker 4: I hate him, I'm loving but uh they're always the
Speaker 4: last you know. They You know, this is a thing
Speaker 4: where you pay too much too soon. The dude it's
Speaker 4: making bank and he's like, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: I don't know what his buyout is, but uh, this
Speaker 4: guy's checked out. Man, and the fans that just I
Speaker 4: love it. I mean, but I tell you what, Louisville
Speaker 4: better beat them. I tell you what, they better beat
Speaker 4: these guys because like, like you say, I don't know
Speaker 4: what it is. Well, man, they've come ready for us,
Speaker 4: and we act like we lack of days ago. I
Speaker 4: guess we're listening to the radio. I'm not convinced we
Speaker 4: would win that game because of the history of us
Speaker 4: just not getting up. You gotta put hatred in these boys,
Speaker 4: art Man, those Kentucky guys hate us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I appreciate the call, man. I think the
Speaker 2: not being able to get up and kind of match
Speaker 2: the hate that was a sadderfield thing. And if you
Speaker 2: missed the four o'clock hour, I mean I kind of
Speaker 2: expanded and gave even more evidence now up in Cincinnati
Speaker 2: that supports what I've said for a long time about
Speaker 2: sad he just ain't built for a rivalry in any way.
Speaker 2: I mean, Miami Ohio considers himself a rival to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: He lost to them last year, by the way, So
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to claim that bron won't have these
Speaker 2: guys because, by the way, and I mean this, there's
Speaker 2: nobody more pissed off about Louisville losing that game last
Speaker 2: year to Kentucky than Jeff Brown. Nobody doesn't mean they're
Speaker 2: guaranteed to win it this year, but it's gonna be
Speaker 2: quite It's gonna be well known that they they're a
Speaker 2: team that it's gonna be well known within that locker
Speaker 2: room that this team there's something on the line here
Speaker 2: that's a little bit more than just one more win
Speaker 2: on your schedule, one more win on your resume. Again,
Speaker 2: that doesn't guarantee that you're gonna win. And last year
Speaker 2: they were ready to play. They just I mean, everything
Speaker 2: that could have gone wrong and it's their fault. Like
Speaker 2: I'm not taking anything away from Kentucky and acting like
Speaker 2: Louisville didn't play poorly, because they did. That's why they lost.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm not. And again, the streak sucks.
Speaker 2: It sucks in a major way, meaning this many losses
Speaker 2: to to Kentucky. In Kentucky fans, if I was you,
Speaker 2: I'd do the same thing I would. I would bring
Speaker 2: up how long it's been since Louis will beat you.
Speaker 2: But you know, from a Louisville fans perspective, I know
Speaker 2: that every game but one of those games in this
Speaker 2: streak was from an inferior coach that's no longer here.
Speaker 2: Jeff brom is a good coach, and I think he
Speaker 2: had n'im ready to play last year. That just it
Speaker 2: didn't work out for him. And again I'm I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know how he's going to articulate it without,
Speaker 2: you know, making him a little bit overly amped up
Speaker 2: or maybe a little bit on the edge. But it's
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, nobody was more pissed and it's still
Speaker 2: more pissed about losing to Kentucky last year than Jeff Brown. Again,
Speaker 2: that doesn't guarantee that they will win, but I don't
Speaker 2: I don't worry about having to match the energy for
Speaker 2: the rivalry. I mean, that doesn't guarantee you win, as
Speaker 2: I've said many times, but with Sad, I don't. I
Speaker 2: think SAT was scared and it rubbed off on his
Speaker 2: team at times. I mean that I think that's what
Speaker 2: it was. He got alpha by Mark Stoops.
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Speaker 5: What's up, hey, Nick? I want to I want to
Speaker 5: make a caveat that. I am not a Kentucky fan.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing. You know, I've heard people today saying, well,
Speaker 5: the fans just don't know they're winning. They're much better
Speaker 5: than when he got there and all this stuff. But
Speaker 5: you know, the fans have been asked, as we have,
Speaker 5: I guess, put up more and more money. They built
Speaker 5: some nice facilities, But two and twenty eight, if against
Speaker 5: winning teams in the SEC is not is not acceptable.
Speaker 5: And I think the fans, probably the Kentucky fans, have
Speaker 5: had it sure, and they're just like, I'm sick of
Speaker 5: this now. Could this be somewhat of an outlier what
Speaker 5: happened the other day? I don't know. I don't think so.
Speaker 5: They were just handled too easily. But you know, we're
Speaker 5: gonna find out in the next couple of weeks. And
Speaker 5: I will admit they have a tough schedule. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: two and twenty eight, I don't think I've talked to
Speaker 5: some Munikay fans that just doesn't cut it. I mean,
Speaker 5: especially if you're being asked to open your checkbook continuously.
Speaker 2: So, no doubt about it. I appreciate the call, Steve
Speaker 2: when it comes to again, That's why I said, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it's quite clear they did have they did
Speaker 2: have some guys pony up, because that's how they were
Speaker 2: able to retain the roster and go get guys in
Speaker 2: the portal. And when you're stoops and you're complaining about
Speaker 2: all you have to do with nil, whenever you're making
Speaker 2: the amount of money you're making and you know clearly
Speaker 2: people are paying and you're still being negative about the
Speaker 2: situation about how much that goes into it, I mean
Speaker 2: people are going to say, okay, I mean I could
Speaker 2: not pony up and we can still beat average at
Speaker 2: best and lose to teams that are good in our league.
Speaker 2: I could have saved half a million dollars. Like so
Speaker 2: I get it from that standpoint. And anytime you are
Speaker 2: a coach and you've sustained results that are not great
Speaker 2: but clearly better, than before, like bringing up where you were,
Speaker 2: Like if Stoops ever brings up where Kentucky football was
Speaker 2: prior to him arriving. I know he did that a
Speaker 2: few years ago, but if he was to do it now,
Speaker 2: like that's the ultimate sign this guy's checked out and
Speaker 2: feels like you guys are ungrateful and it's just probably
Speaker 2: time for that thing to end. All right, quick break,
Speaker 2: we'll come back on the other side. I wish I
Speaker 2: had more time because there's a lot I want to
Speaker 2: get into, but we'll make the most of the time
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Speaker 2: so we got to talk about Colorado Nebraska really just
Speaker 2: embarrassing them in a major way, bullied them outclass them.
Speaker 2: And I think it's actually really really simple what's going
Speaker 2: on with Dion Sanders. He's really a private football coach
Speaker 2: for three people, Travis Hunter and his two sons, Shador
Speaker 2: Sanders and Shiloh Sanders. He's masquerading as a head football coach,
Speaker 2: but he's not that. He's a politician, he's a hype man.
Speaker 2: He's not a football coach. And they didn't get any
Speaker 2: better in the areas they struggled in last year. They
Speaker 2: can't run the ball, their offensive line stinks, they can't
Speaker 2: protect their quarterback. Their play callers is clearly being told
Speaker 2: to do things to try to make shit over look good.
Speaker 2: I mean they just drop back, try to do air
Speaker 2: raid just to show off his son's ability at quarterback.
Speaker 2: And he's got a really good weapon in Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2: But you know what Matt Rule and his team they
Speaker 2: schemed for that, they were ready to play. They neutralized
Speaker 2: him because you know, that's what teams can do that
Speaker 2: are well coached and prepared. Colorado is a clown show.
Speaker 2: And I don't even think that score was is. I mean,
Speaker 2: they could have beat him by a lot worse. And
Speaker 2: at the core, I believe a coach is a leader.
Speaker 2: That's what a coach is a leader. And you can
Speaker 2: lead differently. There are various different styles to lead. I'd
Speaker 2: say your leadership style is probably based off of your personality.
Speaker 2: But he's not a leon. Sanders isn't a leader. Wasn't
Speaker 2: as a player, isn't as a coach. He's not a leader.
Speaker 2: He's a me guy. That's what he was as a player.
Speaker 2: That's what he is as a coach. His son also
Speaker 2: terrible leader, no accountability. Nobody's surprised by it because it's
Speaker 2: really exactly what you would expect. But his son, you know,
Speaker 2: after an embarrassing loss as a quarterback, you think he'd
Speaker 2: be a leader. I'm sure he was named a team captain,
Speaker 2: probably not by his peers, but probably by his dad.
Speaker 2: And if it was by his peers, they probably knew
Speaker 2: that if they didn't vote his son as the captain
Speaker 2: of the team, they probably wouldn't play. And these are
Speaker 2: things that yeah, I'm you know, tongue in cheek a
Speaker 2: little bit, but like, would anybody be shocked if that's true?
Speaker 3: No, look at what this is.
Speaker 2: And when asked after the game, his son and who
Speaker 2: you know people want to believe could be the face
Speaker 2: of an NFL franchise as a quarterback, his son should
Speaker 2: or he blamed his own line to the media. He
Speaker 2: asked how many times did Nebraska's quarterback get touched, Like,
Speaker 2: who does that? People that aren't leaders, that aren't me,
Speaker 2: all about me, me me. That's what Dion was as
Speaker 2: a player, that's what he's always been as a coach,
Speaker 2: and now that's what Colorado is being led by. If
Speaker 2: you could even call it that.
Speaker 6: I mean, how many times did all the good tests?
Speaker 6: How many times did all the good tests? There was
Speaker 6: a like, of course, of course, whenever you're able to
Speaker 6: run the ball consistently, and whenever you're able to then
Speaker 6: that opens up the past, you know, But it's just
Speaker 6: like you got to understand, like what what your team
Speaker 6: good at. So it's like, why would we keep running
Speaker 6: the ball? If okay, we are we out there, we're
Speaker 6: goin to see you don't.
Speaker 2: Need to hear anymore of that. I mean, like, that's
Speaker 2: that's a quarterback who you know, is supposed to be
Speaker 2: a leader, who you know, was sent out to talk
Speaker 2: to the media because he's, you know, believed to be
Speaker 2: one of the leaders of the team. He's the quarterback.
Speaker 2: He asks why or sorry? He asked how many times
Speaker 2: the other team's quarterback got touched, and then talked about
Speaker 2: how his team can't run the ball. He's blaming his
Speaker 2: Old Line, which you know, who would want to play
Speaker 2: Old Line? Who would want to play for Colorado at all?
Speaker 2: If you're not Travis Hunter or one of Deon sanders kids,
Speaker 2: who would want that? And again it's starting to get
Speaker 2: you can't make this stuff up levels, because I mean,
Speaker 2: this is this is a real thing. Guys. This is
Speaker 2: not me. You know, this isn't made up. This isn't
Speaker 2: just something that ends up on the internet. This is true.
Speaker 2: I didn't know this. Did you know Deon Sanders' son
Speaker 2: is a rapper, like he makes music. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: I saw that Nebraska's team was the kind of trolling
Speaker 2: back on his songs.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In the locker room, Well we'll check this out. Deon
Speaker 2: Sanders told the band that the that they they can't
Speaker 2: play the fight song if there's a touchdown that Shador
Speaker 2: is a part of. They need to play his song,
Speaker 2: his son's song that is called perfect Timing. The band
Speaker 2: was told they will not play after a touchdown, they
Speaker 2: won't play the fight song, but instead the PA and
Speaker 2: out the PA is going to play Deon sanders son
Speaker 2: Shador's single and it's called perfect Timing.
Speaker 3: That is so cray not even talking about this song.
Speaker 3: The whole situation is cringe.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's it's secondhand embarrassment, right, like nobody like these
Speaker 2: are people not with us in the real world, because
Speaker 2: again they they view them. I mean, Deon Sanders. It's
Speaker 2: not like he's stubborn. It's not like he's you know,
Speaker 2: out here doing this just for a star. He's delusional.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have any ability to to have self awareness
Speaker 2: because he's never had to player. As an athlete, he
Speaker 2: was sensational and he really is a pioneer in my
Speaker 2: opinion as far as at you know, professional athletes in
Speaker 2: my time as a sports fan. Dude, he's the first
Speaker 2: guy that comes to mind that could could be flashy,
Speaker 2: could be arrogant, could show bo and he backed it
Speaker 2: up as a player. But he wasn't a leader and
Speaker 2: he's not a leader as a coach. He's not a coach.
Speaker 2: That I mean, if I'm proven wrong, I'll admit it.
Speaker 2: I'm wrong a lot. But this is, this is right
Speaker 2: in front of everybody's face to see what this is.
Speaker 2: He's not a coach. He's a personal you know, consultant
Speaker 2: essentially for Shadoor Sanders, Shiloh Sanders and Travis Hunter, and yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he won a lot at Jackson State, and
Speaker 2: that's something that's not you know, I'm not just say
Speaker 2: that that doesn't matter, but like he was able to
Speaker 2: utilize his brand, his ability to be a politician, his
Speaker 2: ability to sell for him to go get players that
Speaker 2: should never be at Jackson State. They should be at
Speaker 2: top schools like Travis Hunter was. And that's how you
Speaker 2: win there. It didn't take coaching. I mean, and I
Speaker 2: do think he's probably a deep down a competitor because
Speaker 2: I don't think he could be as successful in life
Speaker 2: as he's been if he's not a competitor. But he's
Speaker 2: out of his element. Man, he ain't a coach. He
Speaker 2: doesn't know how to coach his own staff. He doesn't
Speaker 2: know how to lead his own staff, which is why
Speaker 2: guys bail all the time. And I don't know why
Speaker 2: I take such satisfaction, But then again, it's just it's
Speaker 2: it's part. I mean, not everybody is the same, but
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people taking great joy in seeing
Speaker 2: these guys fail because of how they carry themselves. Mostly
Speaker 2: should Or Sanders, Shiloh Sanders, and Deon Sanders. Travis Hunter
Speaker 2: seems like an all right guy. I don't know enough
Speaker 2: about him. He's and he can back it up as
Speaker 2: a player. But you saw him yelling at Dion the
Speaker 2: other night. He knows what's up. He wants to compete
Speaker 2: and win, and that's not They're not built to do that.
Speaker 2: It's all for show. And you know Nebraska, John, you'd
Speaker 2: know this. They were expected to be better this year
Speaker 2: on their matter, Well, no doubt, Like are they They're
Speaker 2: not believed to be a contender in them. They're not
Speaker 2: ranked yet, are they? They're number twenty three? Actually they
Speaker 2: get the people.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I think they're expected to kind of
Speaker 3: be like the second tier of the Big Ten. But
Speaker 3: I mean they're still yet to really prove it against
Speaker 3: good competition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the team that embarrassed Colorado the other night, and
Speaker 2: it could have been worse, has the longest Bowl appearance
Speaker 2: drought in power for football. They might know that. That's crazy,
Speaker 2: especially considering it's Nebraska. Yes, but they got Colorado State
Speaker 2: next week at Colorado State, a game that they'll probably
Speaker 2: win just because they'll have way better talent. I think
Speaker 2: Colorado State actually really sucks this year. Maybe I'm wrong. Actually,
Speaker 2: didn't they compete with somebody. They went well last year,
Speaker 2: I feel like being a close game, and if you remember,
Speaker 2: Norvelle was was he wasn't backing down because again, like
Speaker 2: if you're if you're a coach, and this is your industry,
Speaker 2: this is your livelihood, this is where you know you've
Speaker 2: had to grind your way. Look, I Dion was great
Speaker 2: at it and he didn't have to grind his way
Speaker 2: up and he was still successful. That's one thing. But
Speaker 2: for this guy to get all the attention only for
Speaker 2: TMZ type stuff, it ain't a good look for coaches
Speaker 2: to call that out and you know and show jealousy.
Speaker 2: But I mean they're humans too, and that's got to
Speaker 2: piss them off. Yeah, they lost fifty two to nothing
Speaker 2: to Texas and then beat Northern Colorado thirty eight to seventeen.
Speaker 2: So I would imagine this Saturday, it'll be a blowout,
Speaker 2: Colorado probably getting the best of them. Then Colorado plays UTEP,
Speaker 2: a game that they'll probably win again. Then it's organ
Speaker 2: like they don't even have a tough schedule. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: never mind my apologies. I'm looking at sorry, I'm looking
Speaker 2: at Colorado State schedule. So after they play Colorado State,
Speaker 2: then they play Baylor, Central, Florida, Kansas State, Arizona, Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: What if Sat beats him at M Boulder, would you
Speaker 2: want Sat to win that game?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah? Okay, oh hell yeah. Like I mean, and
Speaker 2: I get like it's funny, like I'd not said anything
Speaker 2: that anybody can prove to be made up or I
Speaker 2: mean like I'm sharing an opinion when I talk about Dion,
Speaker 2: but I'm also laying out facts and nobody's got any
Speaker 2: facts to tell me what I'm saying is unreasonable or
Speaker 2: not true. And our phone lines do get get get
Speaker 2: get lit pretty quick when I talk Dion sometimes, and
Speaker 2: I think it's because people act like I'm I'm just
Speaker 2: a hater. No, I'm I mean what it's it's not
Speaker 2: even I mean, I am a hater, trust me. And
Speaker 2: it's bothered me because I'm like, why do I care?
Speaker 2: Why was the best thing that happened to me on Saturday?
Speaker 2: Not Kentucky getting curb stomped, but Dion in Colorado. It's
Speaker 2: because when you act so accomplished and present yourself as
Speaker 2: if you've done something when you haven't, it's just I
Speaker 2: think it's normal human nature, maybe not to have the
Speaker 2: kind of vitriol that I have. But like you get humbled,
Speaker 2: people want to see you humbled when you act like that.
Speaker 2: And Dion's never had to be humbled in his life
Speaker 2: at anything, because he's been great. It's just about everything
Speaker 2: he's done other than coaching, and he's really bad at that,
Speaker 2: it seems. All right, quick break, we'll come back on
Speaker 2: the other side, and finally, I'll let you guys hear
Speaker 2: the call from the Northern Illinois radio play by play
Speaker 2: guy as they pulled off a huge upset, the biggest
Speaker 2: upset in their history and probably gonna be the biggest
Speaker 2: up set we see this year in college football. All right,
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere. We'll come back and wrap things up
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Speaker 2: all right. So Northern Illinois went in was awesome, and
Speaker 2: I know that it did sort of, you know, dampen
Speaker 2: a little bit of the opportunity that's going to be
Speaker 2: there for louisvill when they go up to South Bend.
Speaker 2: But I didn't care, man. I love upsets. I love
Speaker 2: underdog stories in college sports. We're kind of losing that
Speaker 2: a little bit, right because it's professional sports on steroids
Speaker 2: now with all the nil money and all that. So
Speaker 2: to see or Lean Illinois pull off this upset, and
Speaker 2: you know, they're not a team built with a roster
Speaker 2: full of guys that are there because of money. They're
Speaker 2: hard workers that you know, knew they probably were given
Speaker 2: no chance by anybody else. But they still came in
Speaker 2: and pulled off the upset against the Irish. And this
Speaker 2: is what it sounded like from the NIU radio local
Speaker 2: the NIU radio call on the local side.
Speaker 1: He's lining it up five seconds left, then I you
Speaker 1: up sixteen fourteen sixty two yarder snap poll Jeters kick.
Speaker 4: This fuck it's fucked. It's fucked.
Speaker 2: Big up by yea you.
Speaker 1: Big up by ye husies has done it the Hussies
Speaker 1: with the biggest.
Speaker 2: Upset and are you his story?
Speaker 1: They come to South in Indiana and they knock off
Speaker 1: the number five team in the country.
Speaker 2: The head coach, I mean that guy. I mean, what
Speaker 2: a very emotional interview he did after the game, and
Speaker 2: uh that just I mean, not to be corny, but
Speaker 2: that that was such a feel good moment for everybody
Speaker 2: that isn't a Notre Dame fan, because most people who
Speaker 2: aren't Notre Dame fans probably don't like Notre Dame. I know,
Speaker 2: I don't. I've never understood the hate they get, but
Speaker 2: like I get why people are, you know, like they're
Speaker 2: one of those brands in sports that you either are
Speaker 2: all in or you probably prefer they lose. And I
Speaker 2: was happy that they lost and U and I mentioned
Speaker 2: before too.
Speaker 3: From from my perspective, there's a lot of Indiana basketball
Speaker 3: fans that like to they pair that with a Notre
Speaker 3: Dame football instead of Indiana football. Never been a big
Speaker 3: fan of that. So if you're one of those guys
Speaker 3: and you know it's lame, man, you can just be lame.
Speaker 2: I guess this guy is an n IU dad in
Speaker 2: the stands after the game, and I thought what he this,
Speaker 2: This to me was just awesome. This is what he
Speaker 2: said when somebody pulled out the phone and they were
Speaker 2: videoing the visiting parents that were there watching their sons
Speaker 2: pull off such a big upset. Yeah, hell no, let
Speaker 2: them all. I'm sure you guys could make it out.
Speaker 2: But if not, he said, all I want to know
Speaker 2: is who in the hell left that gate open and
Speaker 2: let them dogs out there? Of course in the Huskies.
Speaker 2: That was It was great. And by the way, speaking
Speaker 2: of Notre Dame football Indiana basketball fans, I think some
Speaker 2: Kentucky fans are going back to what they used to do,
Speaker 2: which is, you know, I'm a big fan of big
Speaker 2: fan of Kentucky basketball, but I'm an Alabama football fan.
Speaker 2: This was a Kentucky fan being interviewed leaving Commonwealth on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Where do we go from here?
Speaker 4: Where's the what?
Speaker 2: How do we how do we finish the season? Are
Speaker 2: we getting five way? Weber to Alabama and we go
Speaker 2: over to Alabama and we root for them losers. All right,
Speaker 2: have a good night, everybody, see tomorrow or I'll talk
Speaker 2: to you tomorrow here because it's radio