WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:05.160 Welcome to the WWE podcast for this WrestleMania Backlash preview show. 2 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:09.720 And it feels good again. Why because We've got Ashley 3 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:13.279 Mann back to talk about WrestleMania Backlash, give her thoughts, 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:16.399 how she's doing, discuss her own podcast that I'd encourage 5 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:18.960 you guys to go listen to, and so much more. So, 6 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:22.839 let's not delay. We've got Ashley back on the show. 7 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:26.039 Let's get into it right after this. So, in today's 8 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:29.079 crazy world, you need to be ready to defend yourself. 9 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:32.079 I mean that's just the reality of things. People are 10 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:35.880 getting assaulted on the street, robbed, home invasions. 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I don't know about you, 31 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:51.920 but when I'm lying in bed and I hear a 32 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.760 creek in the house, you always wonder it's either a 33 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:57.680 ghost or you're thinking, oh my god, somebody broke in, 34 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:00.799 right and imagine the helplessness that you could feel in 35 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:04.319 that moment. But let them help you overcome that fear. 36 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:07.000 Let them help you protect you and your family. Go 37 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.680 to Impactdefense Dot online today. 38 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:16.360 This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre and you're listening to 39 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:28.680 the WWE podcast. 40 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:27.240 The show the one that everybody wants me. 41 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:38.199 God sixteen, So I just rust your ass is. 42 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:43.719 My eyn you're gonna acknowledge me. Welcome to the WWE 43 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:47.439 podcast and this is your Backlash preview and prediction show. 44 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.240 As I said at the top, Ashley Man is back. 45 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:52.879 It just does not feel like a preview show without her, 46 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:55.000 and you guys are going to enjoy a conversation. She 47 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:57.039 has been with this show for I don't know how 48 00:02:57.039 --> 00:02:59.840 many years now, like four years since its inception essentially, 49 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:03.159 and I really appreciate her coming on here. And she's 50 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:05.360 doing well with her own podcast that again I encourage 51 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:07.360 you guys to go listen to is called kick Ash, 52 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:11.080 the Kickash Podcast, and she'll tell you all about that 53 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:14.360 in our conversation. 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I'm used 84 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:52.920 to Saturdays for some reason, Sunday night for the WrestleMania 85 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:55.040 Backlash show that I think is going to be a 86 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.800 good show I have. I have solid, solid hopes for 87 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:01.759 the show. So all right, everybody, thanks so much for 88 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:04.120 joining us. You can follow us really anywhere on Twitter, 89 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:06.920 at Wrestling Underscore Audio, you can follow us on TikTok, 90 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:10.680 at the WWE podcast, and really everywhere. Podcasts are available, 91 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:13.879 So all right, everybody, thanks so much for joining me. 92 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:14.240 Here. 93 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.680 I'm going to sign off and toss it to myself 94 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:21.519 and Ashley Mann right now. All right, body, welcome to 95 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:25.279 the Wrestlmania Backlash Preview and Prediction Show. It feels like 96 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:28.199 old times here right now. It feels like I'm back 97 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.160 in yesteryear. But it just feels right that Ashley Man 98 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.399 joins me for a preview and prediction show. Ashley, I 99 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:37.279 know that listeners have been really waiting to hear from you, 100 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:39.360 and it's been too long since we've done a show. 101 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:41.560 I mean, you and I have you know, we obviously 102 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:43.399 talked when we met up with down in Florida, but 103 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:45.680 it's great to have you back on the show. 104 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:49.439 How you doing It does feel like old times when 105 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:51.279 you were saying that, I was like, yes, that is 106 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:52.199 so perfect. 107 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:54.480 So it feels great to be back. Thank you so much. 108 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:57.120 And yeah, and it's proper that we're doing a preview 109 00:05:57.120 --> 00:05:59.800 show as well. So everything's just great in the wrestling 110 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.360 world world, you know, released in our little wrestling world. 111 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:03.839 But thank you so much for having me back. 112 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:07.319 No, definitely, And before we get going, everybody, if you 113 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:11.879 didn't know, Ashley has her own podcast and it's the 114 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:14.920 kick Ash Podcast. So Ashley, give you a second if 115 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:16.639 you want to, you know, go ahead and talk about 116 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:18.240 that where they can find it and anything else. 117 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:21.240 Yes, that's amazing, Thank you guys. I do so. 118 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:24.079 We are about six months into it now, which is 119 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:25.240 kind of crazy to think about it. 120 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:27.199 But yes, it is called the kick Ash Podcast. 121 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:30.839 It is obviously focusing on wrestling. I do rant and 122 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:34.319 ramble about side things from here on from you know, 123 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:36.319 time to time, but I try to narrow down and 124 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:37.600 keep it to wrestling. 125 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:40.199 And what's current on the topic. But it's just I 126 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:41.600 right now. 127 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:43.639 I look to do like a weekly review show, but 128 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.319 looking to kind of grow and then maybe, of course, 129 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.480 if I can snag mad at one point, I'd love 130 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:50.319 to get him on the pod as well, but. 131 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:52.240 Yeah, definitely feel free to check it out. 132 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:54.839 It's again the kick Ash podcast, and I'd love any 133 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.120 and all feedback. Any any feedback is good feedback to me, 134 00:06:58.199 --> 00:06:59.399 so I appreciate. 135 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:03.199 It definitely, And anytime you want me on there, I'd 136 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:05.879 be glad to come on. And guys, go subscribe. You're 137 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:08.959 on Apple Podcasts right, so kick out the podcast and 138 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:11.079 I know I know Spotify too. I've seen you on Spotify. 139 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:14.120 Spotify, yes, speaker pretty much anywhere? Are Heart Radio now 140 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:15.519 so stuff? Yeah? 141 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.199 No, great, so almost everywhere. I mean like, guys, if 142 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.199 you have a podcast app right now, go subscribe, do 143 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:23.439 yourself a favor. Uh and uh, I think you'd appreciate it. 144 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:26.199 I'd appreciate it, and uh, you'll enjoy it. So let's 145 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.240 let's get into backlash, or as it's now known since 146 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.199 last year, WrestleMania backlash because they're squeezing every bit of 147 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:36.160 branding that they can out of the WrestleMania name and uh, 148 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:38.879 you know, overall before we get into the card. I 149 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:41.199 always ask this because I think it may capture some 150 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:43.360 things that may not get discussed during the matches as 151 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:45.720 we go through them. How do you feel overall about 152 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:50.560 the WWE product are you are you feeling post WrestleMania, like, okay, 153 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:54.199 this is worthy of post WrestleMania. I know we usually 154 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:57.240 go into a dip after WrestleMania. It's kind of WrestleMania hangover. 155 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.879 You know, you don't usually have very high expectations. But 156 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.160 as you look at this card, Cody and Edge and 157 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:05.319 Happy Corbette, you know, how do you feel as a 158 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:07.600 whole about the product and where they're at. 159 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:12.439 I think as a whole I would probably gray them 160 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:16.439 as like a C plus. And it's weird because certain 161 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.040 things I enjoy, like, for instance, like the Codie Roads thing, 162 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:23.560 I think they're doing very well with his presentation and 163 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:27.480 pretty much just taking the Cody Roads from AEW and 164 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:30.759 the Cody Roads that he envisioned himself as and just 165 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:34.720 plopping him into their world and just letting him pretty 166 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:37.240 much do it almost exactly what he did in AEW. 167 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.159 So things like that I'm really enjoying. 168 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:43.320 I mean, could it be better, yeah, But for the 169 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:46.559 WWE landscape and what we normally know them as, I 170 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:49.600 think for that in particular, they're doing pretty well on. 171 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:53.039 But then things on SmackDown it's kind of blacking as well. 172 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:55.799 It's a situation where literally, like if you don't have 173 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:59.039 Vermitt Rains on the show where the usos or anything 174 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:01.919 in that realm, it is kind of lacking and it's 175 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:02.919 a big absence. 176 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:07.000 So I don't know, and not to get into. 177 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:10.080 Detail here, but because we'll obviously get into when we 178 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:13.559 talk later on the match itself, but with Roman Reigns 179 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:14.919 having both titles. 180 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:16.919 Now, it just it really like I was willing. 181 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:18.440 To kind of wait and let it play out and 182 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.600 see how it goes, but I'm just it's it's really 183 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:24.080 causing an absence and when he's not on the show 184 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:27.200 that the championship is missing obviously, and you really feel it, 185 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:29.080 you know, especially with we're all. 186 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:31.639 Being three hours. You know, a lot of factors play 187 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:32.000 into it. 188 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:36.360 So as a whole, it's not the worst, but there's 189 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:38.679 when it sucks. It sucks, you know what I mean, 190 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:41.679 You really feel it, but it could be worse. So 191 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:44.360 I'm trying to I'm trying to continue to give them 192 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:45.559 benefit of the doubt. 193 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:49.120 Yeah, I'm probably around there. Yeah, I'm around there. I'd 194 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.879 give it a half a grade higher, I'd say B minus. 195 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:53.919 Uh, Yeah, I was I was covering. 196 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:57.600 Yeah, so I'm a tick above where you're at. It's 197 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:00.279 when you look at the card and you look compare 198 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:04.000 it to WrestleMania, it's a bit stark in contrast. Or actually, 199 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:07.000 I should say it's a bit it's a bit interesting 200 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.799 because a lot of programs started at WrestleMania instead of 201 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:15.000 ending at WrestleMania. Like Bobby and Omas was their very 202 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:17.639 first match, Edge and aj Styles their very first match, 203 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.639 Cody and Seth Rollins their very first match. Like, when 204 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:22.840 you look at that, it's like, wow, that that almost 205 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.360 never happens where the first match is at Mania. Not 206 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:28.240 a complaint, it's just a different dynamic this year. Uh. 207 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.120 And it's also amazing that one of the main events 208 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:34.440 of WrestleMania for Night one, Kevin Owens, one half of 209 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:36.720 that main event, isn't even on the card, Like I mean, 210 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:38.720 it just shows you that for some people, they have 211 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:42.639 no follow up at all. I mean, so, are you 212 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:45.440 surprised that Kevin Owens isn't involved in on the show 213 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:46.919 at all? I know, he's kind of involved in it. 214 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:50.960 In an Ezekiel storyline, He's obsessed with proving that Ezekiel 215 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:54.759 is actually Elias but are you surprised about Kevin Owens 216 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:57.200 not even being on the card after main eventing WrestleMania 217 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:59.440 bringing Stone Gull Cyvasa out of retirement. 218 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:04.000 I hate to say it, but no, I'm not surprised. 219 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:08.759 Would I'm not surprised just because if that was kind 220 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:12.440 of my hesitation going into it, of course it was. 221 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:15.159 It turned out to be a wonderful night. I'm so 222 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:17.399 happy for that Kevin. No one's got that moment. It 223 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:19.559 was a stone Cold a fantastic It was such a 224 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.320 cool moment, right and in a lot of ways, Stone 225 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.360 Cold like himself, proved me wrong and I had to 226 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:25.759 eat some of my words, you know what I mean, 227 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:27.679 just seeing what he was able to do at there. 228 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:29.480 So it was definitely a cool moment, and looking back 229 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:32.360 on it, I wouldn't change how it played out for Kevin, 230 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:36.360 but it's it's more on w tow just not really 231 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:38.759 having a direction for him, and I think, like I 232 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:42.080 was mentioning earlier, it kind of falls back onto the 233 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:46.240 fact that there's really no focus especially on Raw with 234 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.559 out there being a championship. I mean, granted, the championship 235 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:53.720 itself is normally kind of in its own realm, but 236 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:56.279 at least there's a main objective on the show, right, 237 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:58.679 and that kind of eats up some of the time. 238 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:02.120 And the focus. But and it kind of also plays 239 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:02.679 into the fact that. 240 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:06.200 They don't really take their secondary championships that seriously as well. 241 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.039 So there's again, like I said, like a lot of factors. 242 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.200 But for Kevin, that's I think he's one of those guys, 243 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.799 or one of those characters for for that matter, that 244 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:19.200 kind of suffers with out any direction. Granted, he's if 245 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:22.279 anyone can get away with doing this crazy bit with 246 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:25.320 Elias and Ezekiel, Kevin Owens is perfect for it, but 247 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:27.840 it just sucks for him because you know, you want 248 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:29.399 to see him do more and you want to see 249 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.799 him in a more serious role. But I'm not really 250 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:37.120 surprised And for that token too before I tossed it 251 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:39.080 by to you, it's it's kind of like a shout 252 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:40.679 out to him as well, that he can literally go 253 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:43.919 from like main inventing WrestleMania on one of the Knights 254 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.480 to just kind of doing this weird stuff and like 255 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.919 you said, being obsessed with Ezekiel slash Elias, and I 256 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:53.159 don't know, do you view him differently yourself? Like, do 257 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:55.080 you view him in a different light? 258 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:55.320 Now? 259 00:12:55.879 --> 00:12:58.480 I think that this was I mean, it was a 260 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:01.480 career defining moment. I don't, honestly don't believe that Kevin 261 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:03.879 Owens will have a bigger WrestleMania moment. I think, out 262 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:05.440 of his entire career and he's still got a lot 263 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:06.879 of days ahead of him, I still think that this 264 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:09.159 will be it. I mean, how can you top bringing 265 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:11.559 one of the biggest names of all time back main 266 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:13.399 event in WrestleMania with him? I mean that that's it. 267 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:15.600 He knows that was the top of the mountain. Even 268 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:18.200 if he wins the w WE Championship of WrestleMania, even 269 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:19.960 if he was the one to beat Roman Streak, you 270 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:23.559 could argue that's not bigger than taking out or trying 271 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:25.039 to take out Stone Cold Steve Boston in the main 272 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:27.000 event of WrestleMania. So that that was it for him. 273 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:29.440 But do I view him differently, Yes, but in a 274 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:32.559 good way? Like it to me, it's you look at 275 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:35.000 him and you're like, all right, like he's doing something 276 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.639 kind of insanely irrelevant right now. I mean, you talk 277 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:39.799 about a fall off a cliff from Stone Cold see 278 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.960 Boston to Ezekiel. I mean, it's it's really it's it's sad. 279 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.559 But also I applaud Kevin for going all in on 280 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:49.320 this and actually making it somewhat hilarious, making him take 281 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:51.039 a lie to textas ESTs and everything and going all 282 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:53.360 in on it. Just obsessed every time Elias is out 283 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:56.759 there or Ezekiel, he's screaming, you're you know you're a liar. 284 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.879 Yet he is consistently proven he's a liar and a character. 285 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.720 So I think that right now, yes, I view him differently, 286 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:05.559 but in a bigger light, Like I know that this 287 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:07.679 is a holding pattern for him and they could shoot 288 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.200 him to the main event at any time, So yeah, 289 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:13.240 I do view him differently, But overall, I mean, look 290 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:17.279 like they very rarely have follow up programs after WrestleMania 291 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:19.840 that are solid that they can fall on, Like look 292 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:21.799 what they did. They didn't have anything for Roman reigns. 293 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.279 I mean Roman rains went with Shinsky Na Kamara and 294 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.600 we're all supposed to forget that he attacked Shinsk and 295 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.879 it just never happened. I mean, just flashes like Men 296 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:33.000 in Black just use the memory eraser. I mean that's 297 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:36.200 essentially Yeah, it's just bizarre. And so it just proves 298 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:38.159 a time and again they got to WrestleMania this year, 299 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.000 and more than any year that I can remember in history. 300 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:44.200 It was not only an underwhelming Monday Night Raw after WrestleMania. 301 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:48.399 SmackDown was a little bit better, but it felt subpar 302 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:51.159 for just a normal raw, much less a Raw after Mania, 303 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:54.559 and it showed they had nothing at all planned for 304 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:57.200 that show, with Roman Reigns coming out at the end 305 00:14:57.200 --> 00:14:59.679 of that show and just cutting a promo like, hey, uh, 306 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:02.679 I'll tell you what my next step is on Friday. Yeah, 307 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.440 it's just yeah, see it Friday. That's it. Yeah, that's it. 308 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:07.879 And now I mean, he's on Raw, but he's not 309 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.240 doing much. I don't know how they're gonna work with 310 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:13.519 these championships. It's unified, but are they gonna defend it separately? 311 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:16.080 Like I don't think they know. And it just it's 312 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:17.840 like they got to WrestleMania. I said this on my 313 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.120 review last night. I said, it's like they got to 314 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:24.679 WrestleMania and they just everyone in creative just sat back 315 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:26.759 and were like, whow all right, well that's done. And 316 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:29.919 then somebody twenty minutes later says, so, well, what are 317 00:15:29.919 --> 00:15:32.200 we doing next. It's it's just they just kind of 318 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:33.519 look around like and that's how it. 319 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.440 Was just a shame, Yeah, just a shame. 320 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.799 You know that they should be able to take a break, 321 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:40.799 you know, especially for something in that caliber, because if 322 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:43.120 you are comparing it to like the super Bowl of 323 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:45.799 this industry, then you know you should be able to 324 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:47.720 take a break. So I mean, and that, of course 325 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:49.840 there's a whole other topic in and of itself, but yeah, 326 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:55.320 it's sad because, like you said, like in the raw, 327 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:59.000 and it was very jarring the raw after WrestleMania with 328 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:02.279 it turning out to be what was I mean, I think, gosh, 329 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:03.639 I don't even know how many weeks ago it was. 330 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.200 Now the week where Oscar came back and Mustafa Ali 331 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:09.639 like that felt like a bigger deal than the initial 332 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:12.639 raw after Mania, and that's just kind of crazy to me. Yeah, yeah, 333 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:15.759 it really was. It was a really good show. So yeah, 334 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:17.600 it's just it's and that's what I said earlier. It's 335 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:20.200 just kind of weird, like certain things are they're hitting on, 336 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:22.679 and it's it makes you enjoy the show, and it 337 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.240 doesn't seem like a chore to watch it, you know 338 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:25.639 what I mean. 339 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:26.879 But other things. 340 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:28.840 It just really makes you wonder, like why am I 341 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:31.480 investing my time? So it's it's just kind of a cluster. 342 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:34.159 Yeah, yeah, it is. It is right now. But let's 343 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.960 jump into the card. I'm gonna start with Cody and 344 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:39.840 Seth and I'm gonna toss it to you first. What 345 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:41.399 do you think who wins and why? 346 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:46.000 Okay, so with this one, I will I'm just gonna 347 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:49.720 be honest, I'm really gonna be upset if if Cody 348 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:54.039 loses here, and I'm kind of scared that he's going 349 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:58.080 to with WWE like I I don't and again, like 350 00:16:58.080 --> 00:16:59.600 like I was saying earlier, I do try to give 351 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:01.360 them and I'm trying to give them the benefit of 352 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:02.360 the doubt and a lot of things. 353 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:04.200 So this one is going to be one of them. 354 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.400 My official pick is going to be Cody, but a 355 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:10.119 part of me like, I'm not gonna be surprised if 356 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:14.079 they give Seth the win and try to continue this 357 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:16.920 going forward. But because of course, if in my opinion, 358 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:20.759 if Seth loses, it's going to be really hard to continue. 359 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:22.359 Seth is, I guess one. 360 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:24.559 Of those characters kind of like a Kevin Owens where 361 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:28.519 he can talk his way into anything, so maybe he 362 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:30.720 doesn't necessarily need the win to continue this. 363 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:32.599 But my official pick is Cody. 364 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:35.960 Like I said, he I think needs the win more 365 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:39.799 than Seth right now, especially with him just being here. 366 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:42.359 And it would be a little over a month or 367 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:45.039 a month at this point, maybe some months in the day. 368 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.440 I have to check the dates, but I don't know. 369 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:49.839 I feel like it would be a big mistake if 370 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:53.480 they pull the trigger on his first loss happening, regardless 371 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:56.880 of if Seth cheated to win or outside in appearance 372 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:58.920 or anything like that. I just my opinion, I think 373 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:02.279 would do more harm than good on Cody for that matter. 374 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:05.200 So I'm sticking with Cody, and I just like I 375 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:08.039 said earlier, I do have to give them credit for 376 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:12.440 the presentation of Cody and what they've invested in him, 377 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:15.920 and I think it is whether it's a sign that 378 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:19.839 they are more open to change now and more open 379 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.720 to listening and just letting others be themselves, or maybe 380 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:25.240 this is like a crack in the foundation of that 381 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:27.279 or in that wall, that that barrier. 382 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:28.079 But I don't know. 383 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:32.599 I again, I'm giving them hope in that regard. So yeah, 384 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:35.359 I just I feel like with all the negativity. I 385 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:37.119 sometimes though I have to, I have to give them 386 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:38.000 credit when it's due. 387 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:40.720 Yep. No, I think they've done a very nice job 388 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:43.200 of this program, a very nice introduction to Cody. He 389 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:47.119 doesn't feel like he's been wweis. He feels much like 390 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.039 he did in AEW and I think that's what he 391 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:52.160 wanted to bring over. I think it's been successful. As 392 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:53.960 far as the quality of the match here, I think 393 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:56.039 it's going to be very good. I don't think it'll 394 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:59.279 be as good as the WrestleMania matchup, only because it's 395 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:01.680 really hard to do implicate and performance like that. I 396 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:03.799 think they did very good at Wrestlemanti. I mean their 397 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:05.599 match was. I mean he had some boxes, but it was. 398 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:08.359 I think it was really really well done, and I 399 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:10.160 don't think they'll be able to duplicate that. I'm not 400 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:12.680 gonna hold their the bar that high. I do think 401 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:16.240