Speaker 1: Judge declines to hand over video evidence of dispute between
Gilan Maxwell's lawyers and jailer's. This article was authored by
Adam Klassfeld, and this article was from yesterday, folks. I
had this one saved in the pile here, and I
was going to do it yesterday obviously, but with the
Maxwell case being postponed, obviously that took priority. So today,
being a relatively slow day, it just happened to work
out that we had this one sitting right here on
top of the pile. Less than a week after Gilan
Maxwell's lawyer claimed her client got a mysterious black eye
in jail, a federal judge declined to decline to order
the Metropolitan Detention Center to turn over videos of an
alleged incident involving attorney client communications to the accused sex
traffickers defense lawyers. So the judge is not going to
turn over the tapes to the defense lawyers. Now, I'm
kind of torn in a situation like that because I'm
really big on transparency, right and for everybody involved, I
think that transparency is the proper way to go. And
if there was some sort of incident, then the court
definitely has to take a look at the tapes, and
then if they deem that it's necessary to turn them over,
then perhaps they should. But I don't know if the
court is going to bend to those kind of requests
from defense attorneys, because if they do, they're gonna have
to do it system wide. And there's no chance that
an average person like me or you is ordering anybody
get any tapes inside of a jail. Okay, zero chance
it's happening. I don't think they understand that while you
have your basic rights while you're in prison, you are
now remanded to the custody of the state, and there
are parameters, and there are rules, and there are guidelines
and a whole slew of things that I'd want nothing
to do with. That's for sure that I find to
be absolutely disturbing and inhumane in most regards. But you
know what that what happens of that? Because I don't
want to be in a situation where I end up
in prison. Well, I stay out of trouble. I don't
hang out with people like Jeffrey Epstein. Pretty simple, right.
So Maxwell has made her own bed here. The jail
conditions are shitty, there's no doubt, and the thought that
the judge is going to turn over some sorts of
sort of tapes to her lawyers or anything like that
is pretty much a pipe dream. And one thing I
will say about Nathan, Judge Nathan, is she's not treating
Maxwell any different than anyone else would be treated here.
She's giving Maxwell, you know, the same parameters to work
by that these other high profile inmates that have been
in this facility have been given. And in fact Maxwell
has given more room, right, more wiggle room, more time
with her lawyers, more time on the computer, all sorts
of different things. So Nathan has been more than fair
to Maxwell and her lawyers, and I think a lot
of that is to help avoid, obviously some sort of
bogus appeal moving forward. So Nathan has to make the
judgment on what is permissible in the case, what's not
permissible in the case. And so far the l's are
stacking up for Maxwell. And here's another one for her
and her big, high profile legal team that wants to
tell you how smart they are, but guess what a
lot of bark no bite so far. Maxwell's counsel Bobby
Sternham claimed her clients guards confiscated her legal papers on
April twenty fourth. And again, look, I'm not saying that
Bobby Sternham is guilty of, you know, bringing contraband into
a jail cell right or to their client. Definitely not
saying that. As much as I don't think that their
legal team is doing a great job or is as
high profile as they'd like to think they are, I
don't think that they would be, you know, involved in
any sort of contraband per se. But that said, let's
not act like it's never happened before. We know that
lawyers have smuggled shit in to their clients. We know
that there's lawyers who have smuggled guns in to their clients.
So you know, look, the courts and the Bureau of
Prisons they have to be very stringent in these matters.
And obviously they saw something that they thought was out
of bounce and they acted, and according to this ruling
by the judge, they were within their bounds. So once again,
it looks like Team Maxwell throwing a bunch of doodoo
at the wall hoping some of it will stick. The
Court is insured and will continue to ensure that Miss
Maxwell has the opportunity to meet meaningfully and confidentially with
her lawyers in light of all relevant circumstances, and consistent
with the treatment of all other detained inmates in BOP custody.
US District Judge Alison Nathan wrote, you know, and that's
that's what it really comes down to. Right to be
consistent with the treatment of the other prisoners, everybody has
to be treated the same. There has to be the
same sort of treatment for Maxwell and everybody else that's
at the facility. Why our lawyers think that Maxwell should
get better treatment than anybody else is just beyond me.
I know that they're paying you know, top dollar for
you know, the business class, but guess what, you're back
in coach with the rest of us this time around.
And that's just the way the cookie crumbles. You know.
There's no uh Waldorf Astoria in prison. There's no Frederick
Facai in prison. Oh, you might have a Celli in
prison who will give you a quick haircut, but it
certainly isn't gonna be the five hundred and fifty dollars
shampoo and cut that you're gonna go get down in
Manhattan that Maxwell is so used to. So, yeah, this
is the treatment that average people get in prison. This
is the way prison goes. There's rules and again Maxwell,
for her to act like she's getting treated worse than
anybody else is just ludicrous. She's getting treated better. I
can't drive that point home enough. The isolated incident that
took place on April twenty fourth, twenty twenty one, and
the serious allegations leveled by MDC Legal Counsel and Defense
Council in no way undermine the Court's conclusion that Miss
Maxwell and her lawyers are fully able to prepare for trial.
The Court is confident that all parties recognize the importance
of this going forward and in advance of the upcoming trial.
So Nathan's basically saying, look, I have all the confidence
in the world and the Bureau of Prisons, which she's
not me okay about, Well, we'll just put it like that.
I don't have any confidence in the Bureau of Prisons
or the Department of Justice, or the federal justice system
in general, or these lawyers or the judges. You get
where I'm going with this, folks, All of these institutions
that we grew up being gas lit about. Oh the FBI,
they care about the American people. Oh yeah, okay, sure,
the CIA is great, They're really good. They're just worried
about the defense of America and they're just doing their
job right, just you know, doing whatever they have to do,
torturing people. And give me a break with the CIA,
all right, and the rest of the out off the
bet agencies can go get tossed as well. That said,
I don't see where Maxwell's lawyers and defense team think
they're going to have any sort of you know, upper
hand here or high ground here with this sort of strategy.
They're being very combative, very very combative, and I think
it's time ill spent. I think they'd be doing themselves
much better if they'd worry about the trial that's coming.
All right, there's no stopping this trial now. She's not
getting bailed out. Stop with the history onics this is
not the WWE Okay, you better worry about getting down
to the brass tacks of it and worrying about your
client's innocence or guilt, because, let me tell you what,
this is all fine and well right now, all of
this nonsense, but the combative nature of Maxwell's legal team,
and they're continued nonsense is not gonna play out well.
Maxwell's lawyers threatened the jail with litigation after the alleged incident,
and asked the judge to order sharing the videos capturing
it with the defense, again posturing we're gonna sue you. Well,
we're gonna put this motion into play, that motion into play. Really,
what it all comes down to, when you rip through
all of the facade of it and you kick down
the door, what it really comes down to is obfuscation
and them trying to make this drag out a little
bit longer as long as possible. That's what they want. Inevitably,
that's what they want, and the synic in me says, well,
her lawyers especially want it because you know the meter
is running, right, those videotapes must be preserved in light
of Defense counsels preservation letter, Judge Nathan wrote, So, the
defense asked for the federal government to preserve those videos
of the exchange between Maxwell's lawyers and the guards, and
in consideration of that letter, those videos will be preserved
by order of Judge Nathan. Now I'm guessing that Judge
Nathan has seen these videos already. By the way, folks,
if miss Maxwell or defense counsel are entitled to view
or receive copies of those materials. As a matter of law,
they should be provided to the extent defense counsel is
seeking entitlement to those materials from this court. That application
is denied. So as a matter of law, if they
have a standing, a legal standing, to receive those tapes,
then it's on the table. But as of now, with
what they've brought to the table, Nathan saying no, you
have not brought what is necessary for these tapes to
be release, least over to you. In addition to raising
attorney client confidentiality concerns, Maxwell's lawyers also have accused of
the jail of intimidating and harassing their client. Well, if
anyone would know about intimidation and harassment, according to the survivors,
it would be Maxwell. So who cares, right? I don't
buy it, all right? I guess that's really what it
comes down to. I don't buy it. The federal government
knows the spotlight is on them, They know that people
are paying very close attention to what's going on with Maxwell.
All of these allegations from Maxwell's legal team are just
a bunch of bs, in my opinion, and meant to
muddy the waters. Like usual, They're professionals at that. Right,
these people have you know, slick PR professionals working with them,
and you know a whole bevy of others, you know,
crisis professionals, and they're coming up with strategies all day.
It's like boiler room over there, folks. One of Maxwell's
recent court filings alleged that she got a black eye
for unknown reasons and did not report it to the
guards for fear of retaliation. It just don't make no sense, right,
She didn't so an unknown black eye, she didn't report
it to the guards for fear of retaliation. What did
the invisible man show up, slide on between the bars
and give her a one to two combination drop a
three piece on her? I mean, give me a break.
It's so ludicrous. It's obvious that whatever happened to her
eye is self inflicted. Fell asleep with some glasses on,
rubbed her eye so hard. I'm not saying she punched
herself in the fakes, folks, right, I don't you know,
I don't know if she did that. But the whole
premise that the mysterious bruise was caused by something other
than her own, you know, accidentally causing it I just
find to be ridiculous. I'm gonna need to see big
evidence of that, right, So, I don't even know where
her lawyers are going with this whole, the whole bruise strategy,
but it's fallen flat. Right. Take a Coca Cola, open it,
leave it out for two days, and that's how flat
this strategy has fallen for them. Shortly after her arrest
in July twenty twenty, Maxwell was placed on suicide watch
and has been under varying levels of restrictive watch since
that time. Her lawyers alleged that the Bureau of Prisons
overcorrected to the lapses that allow Jeffrey Epstein to die
in their custody in what has been ruled a suicide. Oh,
I see what you did there, mister Klassfeldt. I appreciate
that what has been ruled a suicide nothing definitive. We
don't know, all right, none of us know one way
or the other. We can have our suspositions, but unfortunately
we have a shit bag federal government that is not transparent,
that never wants to be transparent with the people, and
instead they'd rather leave hanging answers out there for people
to run with so you want people to run with it.
People are gonna run with it. But I agree right
with the way mister, with the way Klassfeld coined it.
There and what has been ruled a suicide allegedly a suicide,
basically saying the same exact thing. She's checked at night
every fifteen minutes with light shining in her eyes so
that they can check her breathing. Maxwell's attorney Bagdad Bob
aka David Marcus, told the US Court of Appeals for
the Second Circuit last month in an appeal of rulings
denying her bell, the Americans are not in Baghdad, folks,
Come on, what are you crazy? The Iraqi National Guard,
the Iraqi Republican go they have met the Americans. They're
not in Baghdad. Meanwhile, back in reality, there's Americans all
over Baghdad. They're invading bag Dad. You see it on
your TV. So that's what Oscar Oscar David Marcus reminds
me of Bagdad Bob getting up there trying to gaslight people,
trying to spin doctor things. Buddy, nobody is buying it. Okay,
they're doing it because Jeffrey Epstein died on their watch
and again, she's not Jeffrey Epstein. Marcus added later, No,
she's not Jeffrey Epstein. But according to these survivors and
according to the federal government, she's a co conspirator, Okay,
an alleged abuser, in my opinion, a general all around scuzbag.
So put that in your pipe and smoke at mister Marcus.
Shortly after those arguments, the Second Circuits three judge panel
unanimously denied Maxwell's appeal. But they're brief order invited Maxwell
to take up her complaints to the trial judge, and
that is the proper course, right The appeals Court wasn't
hearing that. They were there to hear about the bell
And now she takes this back to Maxwell, I mean
back to uh Nathan, and you know, Nathan decides one
way or the other what's going on here. To the
extent Maxwell seeks relief specific to her sleeping conditions, such
requests should be addressed to the district court, the panel wrote,
And look, I've said earlier, if she's not suicidal, then
I agree she should be taken off suicide watch. There
has to be other, you know, levels to this where
the government can keep her protected from others and herself
and not have her on suicide watch? Right? Are they
that incompetent? I mean, I don't put anything past the
Bureau of Prisons, but I mean, come on. Judge Nathan
did not comment on Maxwell's allegations regarding her treatment and custody.
The Court intimates no views as to whether some of
some other actions or process is appropriate or proper in
light of either side's allegations. Her ruling states this Court's
obligation in this case and any other is to ensure
that the defendant is given the opportunity to meet with
her lawyers, engage in confidential attorney client communications, and prepare
for trial. Mindful of that obligation, the Court declines to
take further action at this time. It continues because, let's
be real, all of those parameters are being met. Maxwell
has ample time with their lawyers, ample time to go
over facts in the case, and all of this other
stuff is theater. Nathan ordered the government to confer with
legal counsel for prison officials to make sure Maxwell has
access to attorney client materials as they should. She should
be provided every last bit of it. You want it, fine,
dump it on her, bring in a dump trunk a
dump truck and dump it right in her cell. In
any additional If any additional incidents arise, defense counsels shall
promptly confer with counsel for the government regarding those incidents
and seek to resolve any such issues swiftly, responsibly, reasonably,
and amicably. The judge added, if that fails, the parties
may write to the court jointly indicating their views, identifying
and justifying any specific application being made. So basically, if
the two sides can't get along and they can't figure
it out, then the judge will have to step in
and decide what's going to happen one way or the
other about any future issues that might arise the same
way she did here. Maxwell pleaded not guilty to allegations
of sex trafficking and conspiring to groom and abuse women
and girls for Epstein's predation. Is currently slated to stand
trial on those charges July twelfth, and she will be
tried separately on allegations that she perjured herself in a
defamation lawsuit filed by Epstein's survivor, Virginia Roberts. And just
to add here, like I said, this article was from yesterday,
and it was before the Maxwell case was postponed, so
that's why it still states July twelfth here. But the
ruling is in the article. Obviously, you'll be able to
click that in the description box and you'll be able
to check it out for yourself. But folks, come on Maxwell,
her legal team and all of their attempts to this
point have been effectively cut off at the legs, and
soon the time for self aggrandizement, the time for obfuscation,
the time for kicking the can down the road, Well,
that time is very shortly going to be at an end.
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