1 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference, 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,320 the podcast for All Sportsdiscussion dot com. This is Jeff 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,560 and you can follow me on Twitter or x at 4 00:00:12,839 --> 00:00:17,079 Talking a c C Sports. That's at t A l 5 00:00:17,359 --> 00:00:20,480 k I N A c C S p O r 6 00:00:20,719 --> 00:00:24,920 t S. Your podcast moderator is Matthew and you can 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,679 follow him on Twitter at All Sports d A c C. 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,399 That's at A L L S p O r t 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,600 S d A c C. I'm going to turn it 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,359 over to Matthew now as he's having his Jordan game tonight, 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,719 feeling a little bit under the weather, but still calling 12 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:50,000 in for the podcast to introduce things, and Matthew, it 13 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:51,039 looks like everyone's good. 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: All right, all right, welcome to the longest running independent 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,399 ACC podcast in the country. Tonight, we have an awesome 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,159 return guest on the show and Will Oginon. He's a 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,200 fan of all things Virginia. You can follow him on 18 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:07,560 Twitter at at Will's World Minnesota. 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Their website is accnation dot net. 23 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,079 Will Ojinon, Welcome back to the All Sports Discussion ACC podcast. 24 00:01:31,159 --> 00:01:35,400 You're here to review ACC football Week eight, preview Week nine, 25 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,519 look at major college football for the upcoming week for 26 00:01:39,599 --> 00:01:41,280 week nine, and we're we're gonna. 27 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,079 Speaker 3: Have a bull out of fun in the open mic. 28 00:01:43,159 --> 00:01:46,079 Speaker 2: But before we get into this, I have a really 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,760 important question for you, Will, did you know that Mike 30 00:01:49,879 --> 00:01:51,640 London was a detective. 31 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,079 Speaker 1: Drake? 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,719 Speaker 4: Seriously the Matthew Jeff. It's good to be on with 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,599 you guys, and look at forward to this. Looking forward 34 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,280 to catching up with you guys. It's been a while. 35 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: I have to I have to be careful here not 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,400 to laugh because I'll start coughing my ass off. All right, 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,520 all right, all right, Will tell us anything about yourself 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,000 and anything that you want to plug. I did give 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,039 you a brief intro here. But you obviously have some 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,719 features on this on your site that you're working on. 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:23,599 Speaker 3: You have other. 42 00:02:23,479 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: People working with you at accnation dot net. You have 43 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,319 perhaps pieces that you're blogging on at the site, you know, 44 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:32,680 podcast that sort of thing. 45 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: The floor is yours, your friend. 46 00:02:34,199 --> 00:02:37,159 Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah. So, like I said, me and me 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,159 and Jim do the ACC Nation podcast. We actually just 48 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,599 finished recording before coming over here. We had Jeremy Woman 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,680 of Cardinals sport Zone on to talk about the big 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,439 louisvill win over Miami from Friday nights. So I had 51 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:54,439 to add a good podcast there. Chat with him and 52 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:56,960 if anybody knows him, you put a quarter in it 53 00:02:57,039 --> 00:02:59,080 and he will just go for a long time. He's 54 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,759 always a good a good guest. Yeah, so we do. 55 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,719 We podcast once a week, sometimes twice a week. We 56 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,479 have another one schedule for potentially this week started getting 57 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:12,680 a little basketball preview. Yeah. So I'm as far as me. 58 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,319 I do a lot of you know, I'm actually pretty 59 00:03:16,719 --> 00:03:19,159 probably on TikTok. I do. We have a ACC Nation 60 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,360 TikTok account at ACC Nation Net. I have a personal 61 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,039 one at Will's World MN, just like my Twitter account 62 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:30,199 where I do non ACC stuff. But uh, yeah, I 63 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,400 have an Instagram account, Will's World of College Sports, which 64 00:03:33,439 --> 00:03:37,120 I also do some college sports stuff on. Yeah, we do, 65 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,120 I I do. I do a lot of content, and 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,759 it's it's a passion of mine that I liked. I 67 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:46,240 like to just watch and talk college sports. So it's 68 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,520 I got a lot to say, and I found and 69 00:03:48,599 --> 00:03:49,879 got my outlets out there. 70 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:52,599 Speaker 3: To talk about wonderful, wonderful. So let's get right to 71 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:53,560 this past week. 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: Which ACC football team was the most disappointing team in 73 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,479 Week eight? And then give us the converse, who was 74 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,560 the most impressive ACC team in the week. 75 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:08,599 Speaker 4: Boy, I had two candidates for the disappointing one. I 76 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:12,360 couldn't decide on on either one, so I'm gonna just 77 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:18,160 say it's a tie. Why is Boston College getting blown 78 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,560 out by Yukon? That should never happen. I mean there, 79 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,920 they gave up over four hundred yards too. And I 80 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:28,079 know Jim Moore Junior is a really good coach and all, 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,560 but you shouldn't give up four hundred and fifty yards 82 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,839 and get sacked seven times by you against Yukon. That's 83 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,480 the b season now one and six, and after that 84 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,040 start where they obviously they won the first game, had 85 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,680 that really close loss to Michigan State in overtime. That 86 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:48,079 was a really really good game, and it just it's 87 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,240 just fallen off since the other team, I mean, Florida State, 88 00:04:52,439 --> 00:04:56,120 What the hell has happened to them? Like the Virginia game, 89 00:04:56,879 --> 00:05:00,439 Like did something happened that? Did Virginia expose them? Like, 90 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,319 how do you lose to Stanford Stafford's not an extremely 91 00:05:04,399 --> 00:05:07,680 talented team, and then they lost their starter Rule Branson 92 00:05:07,759 --> 00:05:10,879 early in the game played the freshman Elizer Brown. But 93 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,120 how do you outgain an opponent four forty four to 94 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,839 two ninety three and still lose. This season is spiraling 95 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,519 out of control for Florida State. It's I don't know 96 00:05:23,639 --> 00:05:26,639 where the where the end game is. Obviously, I think 97 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:28,720 there's a very high change. Mike Norville is not going 98 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:31,120 to be the head coach of Florida State next season. 99 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,040 It's just a matter of when is it going to happen. 100 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,439 I don't think it. Most likely, maybe it won't happen 101 00:05:38,519 --> 00:05:41,079 until after the season they kind of gently usher them 102 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,079 into another job to kind of start the clock somewhere else, 103 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:46,399 because I don't think they can afford to buy them out. 104 00:05:46,439 --> 00:05:50,120 When the report that came out from on three that 105 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,040 the buying out the whole staff and whatever would be 106 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,240 like one hundred million dollars unless they're unless some boosters 107 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,040 really really start paying up. Don't don't see it happening. 108 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,480 As far as the most impressive performance of the week, 109 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:08,279 it's got to be Louisville going into Miami and upsetting 110 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,360 the number number two team in the country. And this 111 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:13,879 was something I talked about with Jeremy on the podcast. 112 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,279 Just the game plan Louisville had going into that game 113 00:06:17,439 --> 00:06:21,480 was something that certainly was not on tape, coming out 114 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:25,680 into the wildcat formations, using multiple quarterbacks and the formations 115 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,319 to run the ball, getting one hundred yards out of 116 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,319 Isaac Brown, and having Chris Bell look like one of 117 00:06:31,399 --> 00:06:35,399 the best receivers in the ACC holding Miami to sixty 118 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:38,199 three yards on the ground, forcing Carson beck in the 119 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,399 four interceptions that should have been five but not for 120 00:06:41,439 --> 00:06:46,319 a bad roughing the passer call. And yeah, I got 121 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,839 to give the Cardinals a lot of credit because I 122 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:49,920 did not think that was. 123 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: Excellent, well excellent, and can we give an honorable mention here, Will? 124 00:06:56,399 --> 00:06:58,959 I thought it was impressive for Sumu to go in 125 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,680 and I mean, they did a pretty good job against 126 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,680 Clemson on the road, but not only that, that final 127 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:11,879 drive was just so decisive and so methodical that I'm 128 00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:13,759 kind of floor I was kind of floored by it. 129 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:19,279 Speaker 4: Absolutely and Clemson's but big bugaboo is they still cannot 130 00:07:19,319 --> 00:07:22,480 run the ball. I mean, I don't think they've had 131 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,839 they've really they've had like they're very high high risk 132 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:29,120 Kyrie war Like they either get like one yard or 133 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,240 two yards or they'll get twenty. There's no in between, 134 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:37,079 and it's not sustainable and a lot of their struggles 135 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:41,040 are are because of this. Also, I felt like it's 136 00:07:41,079 --> 00:07:43,480 kind of funny that the one year DeVos twenty uses 137 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,879 the transfer portal that the team is completely regressive. So 138 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,360 maybe this is his his uh, this is where he 139 00:07:50,439 --> 00:07:51,680 goes back to not using it. 140 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: Oh Man. On that note, Jeff, I'm gonna turn it 141 00:07:56,519 --> 00:07:57,040 over to you. 142 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got I got one thought on that Miami 143 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:11,920 Louisville game. Of course, Losville was spectacular, you know, Jeff, 144 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,480 Jeff Brohm just had a great game plan, like you said, 145 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,240 will But if you're Miami and you're coming out of 146 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,639 that game, to me, the concerning part is it's not 147 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,639 that you lost. I mean, I think a lot of 148 00:08:27,639 --> 00:08:30,560 people felt like, you know, Louisville was a team that 149 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:36,000 was capable of throwing a scare into Miami. You know, 150 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:39,159 maybe not ultimately pulling off a win, but you know, 151 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,080 probably one of the tougher remaining games that the Canes had. 152 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,879 But if I'm a Canes fan. The thing that worries 153 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,279 me is the play of Carson Beck. Like you said, well, 154 00:08:49,759 --> 00:08:52,600 you know, he could have thrown five interceptions in that game, 155 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,200 and he got so rattled by what Louisville was doing. 156 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,679 You know, it really brings into question, you know, can 157 00:09:00,799 --> 00:09:04,080 they make a playoff run with Carson Beck? I mean 158 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,559 they're so good around him, but you know if if 159 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,519 he if he's up against in Ohio State with that 160 00:09:12,639 --> 00:09:15,600 you know, menacing defense, you know, is he going to 161 00:09:15,639 --> 00:09:20,000 be able to be successful in the in those games? 162 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,519 Or is he is he gon gonna gonna crack like 163 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,240 he did against Louisville And you know, he had some 164 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,879 some pressure moments, I would say against Notre Dame and 165 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,039 you know Chris crystal Ball kind of took the ball 166 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,679 out of his hands and we all wondered, like hey, 167 00:09:37,799 --> 00:09:40,519 late in that game, you know concern crystal Ball went 168 00:09:40,879 --> 00:09:44,559 very conservative. But but does he know something about Carson Beck? 169 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,240 I mean he looked very much like the twenty twenty 170 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:51,320 four Georgia quarterback where you know, not the twenty three 171 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,480 version that came into that season as a Heisman candidate, 172 00:09:54,519 --> 00:09:58,120 but the last year version where Georgia vans weren't too 173 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:00,759 sorry to see him go, And to me, that was 174 00:10:00,799 --> 00:10:04,639 one of the most stunning aspects of that game, is 175 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:09,200 that that Carson Beck. You know, and give Louisville the 176 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:12,360 credit because they forced it, but he played Miami out 177 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:13,480 of a win in that game. 178 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and some of these games, like the I still 179 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:24,480 am baffled how Florida State made made that game competitive 180 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,039 the two weeks ago. But that was that was you know, 181 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,320 a lot of Mario being Mario. I don't think that 182 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:33,720 was necessarily Carson Beck. He he was awesome in that game. 183 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,320 And I still think just talent wise, they're the best 184 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,480 team in the league. But I'm concerned Mario is gonna 185 00:10:40,519 --> 00:10:44,000 coach like he's had two instances this year where his 186 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,639 conservative nature late in the game is almost bit him 187 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:50,039 in the rear the Notre Dame game in the Florida 188 00:10:50,039 --> 00:10:55,039 State game. What happens if they do that and they 189 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,679 actually lose. If they don't win the ACC, they're in 190 00:10:58,799 --> 00:11:03,559 real danger of missing playoffs again with arguably the most 191 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,840 talented team in the league. 192 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, great, great points there. All right, Will, let's 193 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:19,879 look ahead to Week nine. What ACC football game are 194 00:11:19,879 --> 00:11:22,320 you looking forward to? The most in the upcoming week. 195 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,799 Speaker 4: I mean, I'll be brutally honest. It's not a great 196 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,399 slate of games this week, but I think the best one, 197 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,120 at least the one that's probably the most intriguing to me, 198 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,960 is NC State a pit. I'm kind of curious to 199 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,480 see if State has figured something out coming out of 200 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:43,559 the buy after just a bad effort against Notre Dame 201 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,879 and they've lost three out of four, three three straight 202 00:11:47,919 --> 00:11:52,559 losses to conference, the FBS fos, you know, getting you know, 203 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,919 losing by twelve, the Duke losing at home to Virginia 204 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,799 Tech at a game they had no business losing, getting 205 00:11:58,799 --> 00:12:01,879 blown out by Notre Dame. Have they figured something out 206 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:05,799 coming out of the buy? And for pet it's the 207 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:11,000 emergence of Mason heinchell. I thought the way he showed 208 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,159 a lot of maturity in that Syracuse game because the 209 00:12:14,759 --> 00:12:19,120 Syracuse defense was all up in on his business. They 210 00:12:19,159 --> 00:12:22,919 sacked him seven times, but and he struggled as a result, 211 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,559 But he had a lot of resolve, He made the 212 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,759 plays when he needed to. He was he played did 213 00:12:29,759 --> 00:12:32,639 not play like a freshman in that game given the circumstances. 214 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,519 And it feels like they've struck Gold and I'm very 215 00:12:36,519 --> 00:12:40,039 excited to see this matchup. The second one, I would 216 00:12:40,039 --> 00:12:43,759 say slightly behind that. It's kind of low key interesting 217 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:48,879 and that's SMU wake Forest. We know SMU is undefeated 218 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,759 in the regular season and the ACC. But Wake Force 219 00:12:51,879 --> 00:12:55,000 is plucky, y'all. Remember they been legit should have beat 220 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,679 Georgia Tech a few weeks ago if they would have 221 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,639 called that offside on Georgia Tech. But this team, like 222 00:13:01,799 --> 00:13:04,080 I think Dickard is doing a great job there in 223 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,519 year one, if they have an outside shot at a bowl, 224 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:09,039 which I don't think a lot of people realized. You know, 225 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,200 they don't have the talent, especially when they nearly lost 226 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,279 in Week one in the manner they did. But I 227 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:17,440 think that's a really low key game too. But the 228 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,759 most intriguing one to me is NC State. 229 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: All right, good stuff there. When you're looking at Week nine, 230 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:34,320 will which ACC team could be on upset alert if 231 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,039 they're looking ahead, uh for a at a game on 232 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,679 their schedule or just sleepwalking on the field. 233 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:50,799 Speaker 4: H boy, that's a good question. I will I'll be 234 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:54,720 brutally honest. The way Virginia's offense has been the last 235 00:13:55,039 --> 00:14:01,480 two games is kind of has me concerned a little bit. Obviously, 236 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,759 you know, they kind of pull one out of their 237 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:07,840 ass against Washington State. Thank you to the fifty plus 238 00:14:07,879 --> 00:14:12,000 thousand attendance who had a big difference in that fourth quarter. 239 00:14:12,039 --> 00:14:16,919 But I'm worried that going into North Carolina. I know 240 00:14:17,159 --> 00:14:20,279 Carolina is not very good, but they almost be cal 241 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,679 I think, and I'm worried the offense sputters again for 242 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,120 a thurstraight game, that Belichick's going to have something for them, 243 00:14:29,159 --> 00:14:33,440 and I'm just something there's just something deep down inside 244 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:36,279 of me that worries that Carolina is gonna upset Virginia 245 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,159 because because of the who's have been kind of living 246 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:42,320 dangerously the past couple of games, and at some point 247 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:48,039 it's going to bite them. 248 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, from my perspective, you know, 249 00:14:54,159 --> 00:15:00,799 I don't I think that's an intriguing game. I mean, 250 00:15:00,799 --> 00:15:03,879 I don't see North Carolina pulling that upset to be 251 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,039 per I think you guys will Virginia, you know, are 252 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,639 gonna be able to take care of business. But I 253 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:15,799 think for sure some of the points that you brought 254 00:15:15,879 --> 00:15:19,200 up that could make that game closer than expected. North 255 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,399 Carolina went on went on the road to Cal. Played 256 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:25,919 played a very talented quarterback, you know, the young freshman, 257 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,480 you know, Jks, and you know, they held that Cal 258 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,399 team to twenty one points and if not for a 259 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,120 fumble inside the final four minutes, had a chance to 260 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,080 leave California with a lead. That was the first time 261 00:15:43,159 --> 00:15:47,440 this season that I thought North Carolina actually did against 262 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,559 a decent opponent, did some quality things on defense. So 263 00:15:52,679 --> 00:15:54,759 you know that that is one you know to kind 264 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:57,799 of keep an eye on. Maybe maybe North Carolina is 265 00:15:57,799 --> 00:15:59,960 starting to figure a couple of things out. You know, 266 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,759 we'll see just how far along they they've come. But 267 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,919 I was kind of impressed by what they did at Cal. 268 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:13,080 And you know, that's a team that you want to 269 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,279 put them down quick as possible because if you leave 270 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,080 them in the game, you know, weird things can happen. 271 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,559 And you already talked about the game. You know that 272 00:16:22,679 --> 00:16:26,480 Stanford Florida State game. Stanford had no business winning that 273 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:31,240 game Saturday night, but Florida State just slept walk through 274 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:36,039 that game, and you know, weird things starting started to happen. 275 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,720 Stanford gets confident, they start playing well, and then they 276 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:44,080 leave that game with a twenty to thirteen. You know, 277 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,320 a twenty to thirteen win that sins Florida State to 278 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:49,960 zero and four in the conference. And I mean this 279 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,840 is a Stanford team that was without their that lost 280 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,759 or starting quarterback, running back, an offensive lineman, and I 281 00:16:56,759 --> 00:16:59,720 think someone in the secondary. I mean they were depleted. 282 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:03,879 And uh, that's when you want to go in there 283 00:17:03,879 --> 00:17:08,000 and take care of business early against Yeah, that dangerous 284 00:17:08,519 --> 00:17:10,640 you know, could could be a little bit dangerous North 285 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,079 Carolina team. I think you guys are gonna win. I really, 286 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,400 I'm confident in that. I don't see enough as that happening, 287 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:23,480 but like you said, in North Carolina might be showing 288 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:29,880 starting to show a little something here. All right, Matthew, 289 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,000 You've got something to add here. 290 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so will I actually think that Virginia may have 291 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,119 forty two points by the end of the first half 292 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,960 against North Carolina because I kind of think North Carolina 293 00:17:42,039 --> 00:17:43,799 is like buying. 294 00:17:43,599 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: It in right now. 295 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't I don't think. I don't think 296 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,160 they have a prayer on Saturday. I think a lot 297 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,039 of those people in the North Carolina football stadium will 298 00:17:53,079 --> 00:17:56,480 actually be trying to watch basketball on the big screen 299 00:17:56,519 --> 00:17:58,880 TV in the football stadium. There I'm sorry if I 300 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,640 sound sarcastic here, but what I would what I would 301 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,920 ask you will and I'm actually being I'm not I'm 302 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,519 not being facetious here. You know, we're getting later in 303 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:16,559 the season, the pressure gets on. Georgia Tech is rank 304 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,640 seven in the country. There's seven, and oh, they're playing 305 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,599 really good football, but they're playing Syracuse at home, and 306 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,599 this is a game they should handle. If you're a 307 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,000 top ten team, you should handle that game. 308 00:18:29,079 --> 00:18:29,319 Speaker 3: You know. 309 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,519 Speaker 2: Do we start wondering whether the pressure starts getting to 310 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:36,480 the Jackets? You know, I mean, I feel like Georgia 311 00:18:36,519 --> 00:18:37,720 Tech should handle Syracuse. 312 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 4: Well. 313 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,279 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh play really dashed him pretty well this past week. 314 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,279 But you know, is this something that the Jackets fans 315 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:47,680 need to be concerned about personally? 316 00:18:47,759 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 4: No, because I just don't think they have a good 317 00:18:50,759 --> 00:18:55,559 situation at quarterback. I mean, Collins was was mentioned this 318 00:18:55,599 --> 00:18:59,759 game because he threw three picks, and I just it's 319 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:02,920 it kind of amazes me how different this team has 320 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,480 been since Angeli got hurt. And I did not expect 321 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,279 him to be as good as he was before he 322 00:19:08,319 --> 00:19:11,839 got hurt, either, But yeah, I mean, I just I 323 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,279 just don't trust this team. I don't trust Syracuse the 324 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:17,000 rest of the season quite frankly, so. No, the only 325 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,759 way they I see Georgia Tech losing this game is 326 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,359 basically the first quarter of the Colorado game is repeated 327 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:29,319 and in more than one quarter. Otherwise, Yeah, they should 328 00:19:29,519 --> 00:19:30,079 should win. 329 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a way in here on this, Matthew Uh. 330 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,519 You know, the Geordia Tech fan of me looks at 331 00:19:39,559 --> 00:19:43,480 it like a lot of the points that you brought 332 00:19:43,559 --> 00:19:49,359 up about the pressure getting to them, I think we 333 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,400 would have seen that this weekend. To be perfectly honest, 334 00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:57,119 I think I think, Dude, was an extremely dangerous game 335 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,519 for Georgia Tech on the road. Georgia Tech was actually 336 00:20:01,559 --> 00:20:05,960 an underdog. Duke came in on a on a roll. 337 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,440 Darian Mensa was playing fantastic. It looked like they'd put 338 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:14,000 you know, some of the issues we saw against Illinois 339 00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:19,039 behind them. And you know, even even the way that 340 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,440 game started, Duke was out playing Georgia Tech through that 341 00:20:23,519 --> 00:20:27,119 first half and and probably should have left, probably should 342 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:32,440 have led at some point, you know, ten fourteen to zero, 343 00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:36,039 and and you know they had the punt, the fumble 344 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,480 return for touchdown, and and some of the mistakes that 345 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,039 that Duke made that kind of allowed Georgia Tech to 346 00:20:43,039 --> 00:20:45,200 weather the storm, and then Georgia Tech, you know, took 347 00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:48,519 command in the second half. I don't I don't think, 348 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,119 especially like what Will said with the with the way 349 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,240 that Collins is playing quarterback at Syracuse, I don't. I 350 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,079 don't think they're equipped to knock off Georgia Tech. And 351 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:01,799 that's where Georgia Tech now has to play like you know, 352 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,960 not only are they going into a you know, they 353 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,480 looked probably at Duke like, hey, this is a major test. 354 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:08,920 We've got to play well to win. 355 00:21:09,319 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 4: Well. 356 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: Now you're playing Syracuse in a game you're expected. 357 00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: Better call them out then, right. 358 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I look at the Syracuse matchup, you 359 00:21:20,319 --> 00:21:22,000 know very much in the way that like a couple 360 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,200 of weeks ago, when Georgia Tech played Virginia Tech, you know, 361 00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:28,960 a team that you know was capable if you're off 362 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,000 off your game, you know, could have made that game, 363 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,839 uh much closer than than than expected. And Georgia Tech 364 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,640 got up early on Virginia Tech and kept up on 365 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,759 at arms Laith through most of that game. And they're 366 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:44,640 going to need a similar kind of performance against Syracuse. 367 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:46,680 You know, they got to go and just take care 368 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,839 of business early. That's one thing Georgia Tech hadn't been 369 00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:53,200 able to do this year is, you know, basically play 370 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,559 a four quarter game. I mean, they played some really 371 00:21:55,599 --> 00:21:58,559 good halves and some really bad halves, but I'm not 372 00:21:58,599 --> 00:22:02,200 sure we've seen him really play for really good quarters 373 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,400 of football. But you know, when I look at Georgia 374 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,519 Tech's schedule, I'm not overlooking Syracuse, but I would probably 375 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,759 I would say i'd say to have it a little 376 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:14,920 bit lower on the on the list of teams that 377 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,359 that have the most concern. I'm probably looking more on, 378 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,160 you know, on a road game at NC State, you know, 379 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,400 maybe the quarterback if Pitt the way, you know, he 380 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,559 seems to play very well at times, a little inconsistent, 381 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,759 but you know, Pitt's gaining confidence. Those are the couple 382 00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:38,039 of games that probably have me more concerned. But we'll see, 383 00:22:38,079 --> 00:22:39,839 you know, Georgia Tess got to play like that. I 384 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,920 mean we've seen them when they be off off their 385 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,160 game can can have been in some games where they struggle. 386 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,960 You know, Wake Forest was what was an example of that. 387 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:51,440 They were fortunate to leave Winston Salem with a. 388 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: Win and that well and then if they blow them out. 389 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,559 Speaker 2: There's no reason that Georgia Tech shouldn't be in the 390 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:01,079 top five and that'll be my open mic rant next 391 00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:01,759 week if they're not. 392 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,279 Speaker 3: So go ahead, Jeff, We're up next. 393 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's step out of the ACC for 394 00:23:09,519 --> 00:23:13,519 a bit here. Which national FBS game are you looking 395 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:16,160 forward to the most in week nine? And we're wide 396 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,799 open with this question. This can be power for G five. 397 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,039 You can even have an FCS matchup and then give 398 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,480 us the winner of that game. 399 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,799 Speaker 4: As far as FBS, you know, Missouri Vanderbilt is probably 400 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,640 the most important gear or the biggest game of the week. 401 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:34,599 The fact that Vanderbilt is a top ten team. Now, 402 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,960 I don't think anybody in their right mind would have 403 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,440 predicted at any point during the season. But here they 404 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,119 are six and one, the lone loss to Vanderbilt taking 405 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,880 on Missouri, who's also six and one with their loan 406 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:53,599 loss event to Alabama. Vanderbils lost to Alabama. But hard 407 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,799 for me to go against the Commodores right now with 408 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,599 the way they're playing. Diego Pavia, I wonder if he's 409 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,039 going to end up in New York City in December, 410 00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:04,759 at least sitting there I don't think he's going to 411 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:08,920 win the Heisman necessarily, but I think he's a lot 412 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,440 of the reason Vanderbilt is where it is right now. 413 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,960 So yeah, Vanderbilt and host of Missouri and I know 414 00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,839 college game, they's going there, and rightly so, because the 415 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,920 Vanderbilt story is a really cool story. We know them 416 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,640 as basically a patsy at the SEC, and the fact 417 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,200 that they're a competitive football team right now, I think 418 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,359 that's awesome too. FB G five game, I actually wanted 419 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,240 to highlight to South Florida and Memphis. The game kind 420 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,799 of got a little bit the luster taken off of 421 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:43,759 it by Memphis losing to UAB, and that was a 422 00:24:43,759 --> 00:24:47,359 cool story in and of itself. But you're looking for 423 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,079 the G five representative in the playoffs, this game may 424 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,160 go a long way towards deciding it. We know, you 425 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,799 know South Florida six and one in the season, that 426 00:24:57,839 --> 00:25:01,680 lone loss to Miami. They look really they have a 427 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,599 really good good quarterback Byron Brown's who's a really good 428 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,920 dual threat guy. You know Memphis right that both of 429 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,720 these guys honestly are gonna be gonna be candidates for 430 00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:16,440 some head coaching jobs here after the season. So maybe 431 00:25:16,519 --> 00:25:19,119 maybe there should be some fan bases that need to 432 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,119 scout this game because you're, you're, you're one of these 433 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,920 coaches might be coaching your team here in about two months. 434 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,079 Speaker 1: All right, Matthew, you got something to add. 435 00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:36,559 Speaker 2: Here, Dakota Mark or well, it's on ESPN two or 436 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:39,640 ESPN you. I don't think they've decided yet, but number 437 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,799 one North Dakota State's going to South Dakota State. Number two, 438 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,279 who's winning Hell of the game. 439 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did not realize it was. It was this weekend. Yeah, 440 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,920 nor North Dakota State once again. Just it was just 441 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,839 kind of like one of those automatic programs, Matthew, or 442 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,359 it just feels like you they lose a coach to 443 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,920 the f to the FBS level, they just next man 444 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,599 up succeeds again. And South Colakota States that way, and 445 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,079 a lot of respects too. I mean, Washington State's coach 446 00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:17,319 came from South Dakota State, if I remember correctly. I 447 00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:19,759 remember he won the national championship a couple of years ago. 448 00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:23,640 So it doesn't surprise me that these two teams are 449 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,759 still really, really, really good this year. But yeah, I'm 450 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:28,160 gonna take North Dakota State. 451 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: And it's gonna be a hell of a game. 452 00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: It's good, it's it's gonna be I honestly think it'll 453 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,119 be the best game at the eight o'clock hour. I mean, 454 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,440 I'm not exaggerating when I say that it's gonna be 455 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,920 too hard nosed teams going at it, and it's just 456 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,200 gonna be it's gonna be ridiculous. It's gonna be absolutely ridiculous. 457 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jeff, Yeah, game that that's gotten my I'm 458 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,279 gonna keep my eye on And I think this is 459 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,160 this is b Why use Georgia Tech at Duke game. 460 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,400 B yu's got to go to Ames and play Iowa State. 461 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,079 They're seven to zero, They've had a bunch of close wins. 462 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,920 They got the young freshman quarterback who's who's played so well. 463 00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:20,960 I think b YU is a very quality team. That's 464 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,480 a good football team. I think they're you know, appropriately, 465 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,559 you know, ranked in the in the top twelve. But 466 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,160 I think their undefeated run is coming to an end. 467 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,839 If it's not gonna happen this week, it's gonna happen 468 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,839 next week at Texas Tech. I just don't think b 469 00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:44,799 YU is explosive enough. You know to to run the 470 00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:48,119 table through the Big twelve. But if they get by 471 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,079 Iowa State, man, I think that would be an extremely 472 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,799 impressive victory for the Cougars. So I've got that. I 473 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,519 got my eye on that game and another one I'm 474 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,240 curious to see. It's Texas A and M at LSU. 475 00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:08,240 You know, after that opening win at Clemson, you know, 476 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:12,200 everybody was talking about LSU, you know, a national championship team. Well, 477 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,400 you know, we know about Clemson at this point, and 478 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,519 now we're finding out that, you know, Brian Kelly's got 479 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:21,720 another you know, uber talented team that he's coaching down. 480 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:23,839 I mean, that just seems to be what he's what 481 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,200 he does. He's he's he's like James Franklin light here, 482 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,119 and I think he's he's starting to approach you know, 483 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,920 possibly the same fate. 484 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 485 00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: That's a massive game, uh for LSU and Brian Kelly. 486 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:40,759 I think if they lose Texas A and M, I mean, 487 00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:45,079 they're they're completely eliminated from any playoff consideration. And you know, 488 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,079 LSU is gonna have to think long and hard if 489 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:52,200 he's the coach, you know, that could bring LSU back 490 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,480 into national prominence. I mean he's always going to be good. 491 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,640 But you saw at Penn State that that wasn't good enough. 492 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,559 Good wasn't good enough. 493 00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:01,839 Speaker 2: You couldn't say that without laugh I heard it in 494 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,640 your voice. Which part you said, whether he's going to 495 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,599 bring it back to National Providence. I heard you chuckle, Jeff, 496 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,160 I heard you. 497 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't think he will. I don't have 498 00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:19,839 a lot of faith. But if he wants, if he 499 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,119 if he wants a prayer to try to win back 500 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,079 that that fan base. Uh, you better knock off number 501 00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:28,160 three Texas A and M because this was, you know, 502 00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:31,920 with nuss Meyer coming back with a ton of transfers 503 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,960 coming in a really talented defense. I mean, they had 504 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,160 a roster that should have like walked into the playoff 505 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:44,880 and they're on the on the verge of being eliminated 506 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,000 before the leaves finished changing, which it would is, you know, 507 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,160 may not be as stunning on the level of, you know, 508 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,880 what happened to Clemson and Penn State, but what would 509 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,440 still be one of the more surprising teams to be 510 00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:01,680 eliminated from playoff considered at this point in the season. 511 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,519 All right, Will We're in the last couple segments of 512 00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:13,759 the podcast, and our next segment is you know, just 513 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,079 for you, it's our open mics segment. You know, go 514 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:20,839 ahead and just you know, speak on any subject you want. 515 00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:24,519 This floor is yours. Uh, you know, no other open 516 00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:27,759 mics for Matthew or I. This this is Will's time 517 00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:28,720 to speak. 518 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,359 Speaker 4: All right. So I think I want to just talk 519 00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:36,200 about my excitement for this ACC basketball season coming up, 520 00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:40,559 where I really think there's a lot of I think 521 00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:42,279 the league as a whole should be a lot better 522 00:30:42,359 --> 00:30:45,960 this year. We know Duke has got the talent. I 523 00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:51,079 really like Louisville this year. I haven't put out my 524 00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:53,720 my predicted standing set. I'll do that all the morning 525 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,720 of the season, but I'm seriously considering having Louisville win 526 00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:01,519 the league this year. I just really like what they 527 00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:06,559 are bringing in Offensively, They're just they can shoot from everywhere. 528 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:09,440 And I you know, they have Isaac McNeely coming over 529 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,920 from Virginia who is a very sharp shooter, and I 530 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,519 think in a more up and I think he's going 531 00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:18,960 to do great things there. Inc he stayed going out 532 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,920 and getting Will Wade. I think they're going to be 533 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,519 at the top towards the top of the league right now. 534 00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:26,480 He's you know, say what you want about him as 535 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,200 a person, the fact is he even just flat out coach, 536 00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:31,519 and I'm really excited to see what he can do. 537 00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:36,279 And Raleigh, obviously, Virginia's got Ryan Otum. I think he's 538 00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:40,359 going to pay dividends year one, turning over the entire 539 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,279 roster and you know, bringing in a lot of proven 540 00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:46,400 players and actually running an offense that's not going to 541 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,920 lull people to sleep. I mean no disrespect to Tony Bennett, 542 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,319 but I in those last couple of years, it just 543 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,000 it just got hard to watch at times. I'm very 544 00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:01,759 curious to see how Carolina does. I'm not fully convinced that, uh, 545 00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:03,799 they're going to be where a lot of people think. 546 00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:06,200 I just haven't seen enough from Hubert Davis to make 547 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,759 me think that he's a good enough coach for the job. 548 00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:13,319 Uh and you know, quite free worthy. How about these 549 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,400 new other coaches, you know, were Miami has a chance 550 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,279 to improve definitely this year. You know, Florida State as 551 00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:23,880 a new coach, I think I think there it's going 552 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,680 to take Loue Locks a little more time to get 553 00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:30,400 Florida State where they need to be a kind of 554 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:34,599 a sneaky like Notre Dame this year. So yeah, this 555 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,960 is going to be a real fun year in ACC basketball, 556 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,640 and I'm really excited for the season to begin here 557 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:39,519 in a couple of weeks. 558 00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: I think Virginia Tech's got Luca Luca and it's team right. 559 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:47,039 Speaker 4: And yeah, that's another thing Matthew and Tech Tech, Like, 560 00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:48,759 I think we talked about it at one point and 561 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:52,119 I guess said, hey, there's there. I'm pretty certain that 562 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:55,319 Virginia Tech will not be playing on Tuesday in the 563 00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:58,480 ACC Tournament this year, so I think I think they 564 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,640 have a chance to finish in top half of the 565 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,440 league this year. 566 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty crazy that they have that. There's 567 00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,680 a guy that's gonna be I think is going to 568 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,119 be a potential lottery pick and he's playing in Blacksburg, 569 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,720 which I never thought would happen in my honestly, in 570 00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:20,599 my wildest dreams. And he's he can play three different 571 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,960 positions on the court. It's kind of crazy. It's kind 572 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,119 of crazy, and I'm with you, Will. I mean, the 573 00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:28,079 the league is going to be so much better. I 574 00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:30,799 almost think to the point, are we at the point? Well, 575 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,880 let me ask you the follow up here Are we 576 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,839 at the point where a five hundred record within the 577 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,720 conference will get you into the NCU? 578 00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: I think, I think so, I think. I mean, obviously 579 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,200 it depends on the wins and losses. Uh, you can't 580 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,759 be like Stanford where you won twenty games but you 581 00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,480 had a Q four loss that really screwed everything. 582 00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:01,119 Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough. Yeah, it's the un and the 583 00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:02,720 you make it. Bring up a good point. 584 00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: Of course, we've got the unbalanced league schedules and that 585 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,640 sort of thing, and teams playing other teams and that 586 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,679 sort of thing. I think, if I'm not mistaken, North 587 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,679 Carolina and North Carolina State are only playing each other 588 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,480 once this year? 589 00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 3: Is that correct? Which I think is insane. 590 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. I hate this unbalanced scheduling quite frankly, and but 591 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,639 this is what you get when you have this many 592 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:30,519 teams in the league. 593 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 3: Now amen, Amen? 594 00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: All right, Well we're at the final segment. Here, We're 595 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,559 at the final segment. Open microphone too, you get another shot? 596 00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: Here? Will the floor is here? 597 00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 4: Ooh? Else? Let me think. I mean, I think the 598 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,519 other thing I would like to bring up is just 599 00:34:56,639 --> 00:35:01,800 how up and down this college football season's been. Just 600 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,920 where all these teams that have been in the new 601 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,039 teams that are in the top twenty five of the 602 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:12,519 eight people that aren't normally there. Indiana number two, I mean, 603 00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:17,280 Georgia Tech number seven, Vanderbilt number ten, Virginia at sixteen, 604 00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:21,159 I mean a South Florida eighteen, and you know we're it. 605 00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,599 I think some of this is the effect of the 606 00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:28,320 Transfer Portal in a positive way. You know, you being 607 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,199 able to you know, retain talents and you know, supplement 608 00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:37,480 with you know, pieces from the G five maybe the 609 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:42,159 FCS level, and you when it all when it all 610 00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:44,599 works out like it has, you know, you you get 611 00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:49,199 a Virginia that's you know, you're undefeated in the league 612 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,400 and one loss, you get Indiana, who you know, they 613 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,880 had added Fernando Mendoza. They they've really loaded up in 614 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,880 the portal in these two years under Kurz Signetti. They're 615 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,519 currently sitting at number two in the country. Vanderbilt they 616 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,280 pulled Diego Pavia out of the portal and he's been 617 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:11,280 a godsend to that program. Yeah. So I think as 618 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,559 much as I understand the hate the hate of the 619 00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:17,760 portal for people because of the lack of loyalty, at 620 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,239 the same time, you know, it's an opportunity for these 621 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,000 kids to play major college football and get an opportunity 622 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:26,440 to you know, in a lot of these cases, they 623 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,079 get more of a chance to put on film to go, 624 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,519 you know, to potentially get a spot in the. 625 00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 3: Enough great comments will great comments. I'll just be very quick. 626 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,599 Speaker 2: Vanderbilt's awesome because I think they're the oldest team in 627 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:41,639 college football. 628 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,119 Speaker 3: This is why they're winning. 629 00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 2: I'm actually being a little facetious about that. 630 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,599 Speaker 3: But they've got a bunch. 631 00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: They've got like more graduate students, I think than any 632 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,000 other FBS team in college football, and they have a 633 00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:57,960 whole boltload of juniors and seniors on this team, and 634 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,079 it feels like they've been playing for this moment for 635 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:04,199 several for several years. And I think having an older 636 00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:06,639 team isn't always a bad isn't always a bad thing 637 00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:08,239 in college in college football. 638 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're at that point in the college football season. 639 00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:23,719 You know, we're fans of the SEC or pollen ticking 640 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,360 for eight playoff teams and you know, into the into 641 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:37,280 the college football playoff. But the fact remains, and you 642 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,679 can't use this argument in both both the wrections. I'm 643 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,960 not going to say the SEC isn't isn't the best 644 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,480 football league in college you know football this year. I 645 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,239 do think it is. I do think it is the 646 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,400 the deepest, and I wouldn't argue argue that I don't 647 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,840 think they have the best teams, maybe not even the 648 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,800 best two teams, which I think right now you have 649 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,760 to say is Ohio State and I'm gonna put Indiana there. 650 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,039 I think they've they've done enough to prove that they 651 00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:08,719 are one of the two best teams in the country. 652 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,679 And I would have put Miami in there prior to 653 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:16,159 their loss to Louisville. But you can't have the argument 654 00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:19,679 that your depth, the depth of your league is proven, 655 00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:23,960 you know, by having winless conference teams like Mississippi State 656 00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:28,039 who beat Arizona State, and you know, Auburn beating Baylor 657 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,360 and at the same time have an er and four 658 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,800 Florida State team knock off your your league leader, Alabama 659 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,639 by two touchdowns at game one. You can't have both arguments. 660 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,320 And you definitely can't say, well, they're different teams now, 661 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,840 because the only time that mattered is when they played, 662 00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:50,599 and when they played you know a team that's that 663 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,159 went on to be I don't know if I'd say 664 00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:54,840 Florida State is the worst team in the A C 665 00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:57,679 C H, I say, you got to put you know, 666 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,679 Boston College there and probably in see North Carolina. But 667 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,039 there's no one who's gonna put Florida State higher than 668 00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:09,280 sixteenth at this point. You know, they knocked off Alabama. 669 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,880 I know we all were solid, we know what the 670 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:17,480 final score was. So I mean, any any discussion of 671 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,079 that of the SEC stops right there. When you're trying 672 00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:24,840 to politic more teams in yeah, you can't use the argument. 673 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:33,199 You know that Ole Miss has that much difference when 674 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,159 Virginia when you're looking at they played the common opponent 675 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,000 they played, they basically had the same game. You know, 676 00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:43,480 they struggled to beat Washington State, came away with a victory. 677 00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:48,119 You know, Virginia also as a heavy favorite, struggled to win, 678 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,840 but you know eventually came away and beat a feisty 679 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,000 Washington State team. And they both have one loss. Now, okay, 680 00:39:57,039 --> 00:40:01,639 all Miss you know did lose to h to Georgia. 681 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,199 But you know, it's just it's just another example of 682 00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:08,719 you know, how we try to evaluate these teams. You 683 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,800 have to look at them individually, and you know, you 684 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,960 can't say, well, so and so beat like seven ranked teams, 685 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,320 because it just doesn't you know, we we know what 686 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,119 we've seen with with the SEC. You beat a ranked team, 687 00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:26,800 you move up ten spots. You lose to one of them, 688 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,320 and you move down two spots. I mean, it's out there. 689 00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:34,760 It's it's out there in front of us. I mean, 690 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,360 they're gonna get four teams in. There's no question about that. 691 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,639 But and and I wouldn't I won't even have a 692 00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:44,360 problem with that. But you can't automatically say that that 693 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,800 the the Big twelve, you know, only necessarily deserves one 694 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,639 at this point, or the ACC only deserves one, or 695 00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:57,000 that uh an SEC team would run through the Big 696 00:40:57,039 --> 00:41:02,599 ten schedule. The evidence is just not there that that 697 00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:08,599 would be the case. You know, you can't say, hey, 698 00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:13,440 you know this team went to Arkansas and wow, great 699 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:16,519 great struggle win for Texas A and M, when we 700 00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:20,559 know Notre Dame went down there and and annihilated Arkansas. 701 00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:24,440 So but here we are in that time of the season. 702 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,719 You know where the where the fine bombs are going 703 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,840 to argue for for eight or nine, and the coaches 704 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,840 in the SEC are going to argue for expanded, you know, 705 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,280 playoffs to make sure their jobs aren't in trouble and 706 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,760 they don't end up, you know, you know, being the 707 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,639 next James Franklin or Napier or one of half a 708 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,360 dozen coaches that got fired this year. But that that's 709 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:51,760 my rant. You know, evaluate these teams on wins and losses, record, 710 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,559 common opponents, the whole record, you know, road power for wins, wins, 711 00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:01,440 over power for conferences and and things like that. And 712 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,639 and I don't want to hear a word about like 713 00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:08,039 a hypothetical result. You know, I don't care if if 714 00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:12,119 Alabama played Florida State. Now, I don't care what the 715 00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:14,920 result would be, doesn't matter. We know what happened when 716 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,920 they played, and Alabama got the breaks beat, you know, 717 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,519 the daylights beat out of themselves to a team that's 718 00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:24,880 now zero and four in the ACC. That's the fact. 719 00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:25,599 Speaker 3: Well said. 720 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,159 Speaker 2: Well said, Hey, will I have one more question for you. 721 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,159 How happy were you to see North Dakota play Minnesota 722 00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:33,519 and college hockey last night? 723 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 4: And man, I wish I wish they would do that. 724 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,000 I hope they would keep doing them more often. I 725 00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:44,639 just it's such a great rivalry. It's such an underappreciated rivalry. 726 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,760 And you know, funny thing, I was talking to somebody 727 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,360 this week about how I missed the old w c 728 00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:52,559 CHA for that reason. Have all these local rivalries of 729 00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:57,400 Minnesota taken to North Dakota and Mankato and Saint Cloud 730 00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:01,920 Deluxe and all these, like all the backstories, all these 731 00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:05,159 you know, local kids who kind of got snubbed by 732 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,480 the big time program in Minnesota going to play for 733 00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:10,679 one of these other schools and just kind of sticking 734 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,280 it to them. I love I love that rivalry. 735 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,679 Speaker 2: It was fun to say, It was fun to see, 736 00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:16,760 and I hope they continue it. 737 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,199 Speaker 3: I'd hope they continue it will. 738 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,559 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us on the All 739 00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:24,719 Sports Discussion ACC podcast. We appreciate you spending your Sunday 740 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,239 evening with us and we'd love to have you back, come, 741 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,119 come back on the show sometimes. Thanks so much for 742 00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:29,719 coming on the show. 743 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 744 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 4: Guys, have a going