WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:05.480 Test test tests up. The rumors of my death may 2 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:08.919 have been exaggerated, but we'll see what happens Friday night. 3 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:12.279 And we're about to go live on o'chelly dot com 4 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:15.000 and I'm testing the mic right now. It looks like 5 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:16.839 you guys should be able to hear me across all 6 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:20.039 the platforms and all the good stuff. So let's get 7 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:23.199 this call in thing rolling about three minutes late on 8 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:41.399 o'chelly dot com radio. Ready, it's the sixteenth day of 9 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:45.039 August twenty twenty four, allegedly according to that thing we 10 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:48.000 call a calendar. This is the O'Kelly effect, and we 11 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:50.840 are live on a Friday night. 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In 37 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:18.120 case I didn't repeat it enough, repete, how was your week? 38 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:20.080 I'm gonna go get the Weeni dogs, but tell everybody 39 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:20.800 how you weak was. 40 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:23.879 Oh, we's been pretty good. 41 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:27.400 We finally after that onslaught of rain all last week, 42 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:29.759 we finally gotten into some decent weather. 43 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:32.520 It's been in the eighties. It's been hot, it's not 44 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:34.400 being humid, and. 45 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:36.520 We're finally getting to dry out on the job site, 46 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:37.960 so I think you can get a little bit easier. 47 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.199 But other than that, it's it's been a very good week. 48 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:43.560 Not a well productive week, kind of cleaning up the 49 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:45.360 mess of the storm, but I mean, other than that, 50 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:50.759 it's been pretty good. While you're chicking on dogs, we 51 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.400 got a few headlines wined up here to night. Some 52 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.719 of them have found quite fascinating concerning the government and 53 00:02:57.800 --> 00:02:58.520 some of the things. 54 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:01.520 That they've been doing here lately r being called question. 55 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:05.159 And we seem to have a sudden onslaught of information 56 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:09.919 coming out from different government agencies concerning the bidens. Now 57 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:14.039 that Joe supposedly has stepped down, because I'm wondering if 58 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:19.520 he'll wander into the DNC convention and uh, you know, 59 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:22.360 start acting like a president won't have to wait and see. 60 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:26.800 I think he's been given a Monday night speech slot, which. 61 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:29.520 In you know, opening night ceremonies. 62 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:33.280 I guess it's a good location for him to start, 63 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:36.719 but uh, you know, some presidents didn't even I don't. 64 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:37.400 Think Bush was. 65 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:41.400 Bush gave a speech at the r N c rallies. 66 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:44.319 After he was on, he was lane duck and on 67 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:44.919 his way out. 68 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:48.719 Well, much like a concert, Yeah, much like a concert. 69 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:52.159 Don't know, you put your headline act on like last. 70 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:53.439 I mean, isn't that what you do? 71 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:56.680 Yeah, your headline is always last. But see that's the problem. 72 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.520 You know, their headline is now Kamala and Joe's got 73 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:03.319 to sit back, you know, behind the curtains and wonder 74 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:05.199 when he gets his oatmeal next, or is. 75 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:08.120 It time for a nap? I guess you know, it's 76 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:08.800 kind of funny. 77 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:12.960 What I find fascinating is how some of the mainstream 78 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.360 media and these government agencies. 79 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:17.480 To give an example, the. 80 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:25.800 Department of Justice suddenly just found the transcripts from Biden's what. 81 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:27.759 Biographer I guess you would call. 82 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:32.360 Him, where it was called into question that Biden had 83 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:38.439 possibly been sharing top secret information with his writer. Now 84 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:41.639 that you know, now that Biden's not running again, suddenly 85 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:43.360 the transcript scripts appear. 86 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.240 Isn't that amazing How they couldn't find them for what 87 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:46.800 the year? 88 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:52.839 Yeah? Well just like the timing when what was it Petraeus? 89 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:55.600 You know, they couldn't find stuff for a while until 90 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.279 he resigned and actually stepped away. Then they had other 91 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:02.160 stuff on him with the giving away secrets to his girlfriend, right, 92 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:04.480 and he was the head of the CIA at the time, 93 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:06.360 and he had been part of the surge and all that, 94 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:09.600 And I mean, is this not typical though? Like, Okay, 95 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:13.319 now it's not politically a problem, so we can kind 96 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:15.360 of discover things now, No. 97 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:22.279 Isn't amazing amazing, And you've got the media somehow. 98 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:25.560 I'm trying to figure out if they're pleased with this. 99 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.120 Method that they used to put kamal At ahead of 100 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:33.199 the ticket, because they're coming out against Tim Walls for 101 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.959 a choice for VP and basically slamming on him from 102 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:40.000 day one. There's a headline here CNN admits that Tim 103 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:43.439 Walls repeatedly lied about his drunk driving arrest. Yeah, that's 104 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:45.800 kind of strange, come right out of gate with stuff 105 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:49.000 like this. Well, I wonder what's happened to CNN. Are 106 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:53.279 they trying to get back some kind of respectability or something. 107 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.040 I told you this a couple of months ago, and 108 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:56.959 I told a couple other people. They went, now, you 109 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.160 full of crap. They're liberals, And remember and I said, no, 110 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:02.560 CNN's getting you got to watch something's happening over there, 111 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.199 and it's been going on for a couple of months now. 112 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:07.800 If you go and review a few things, it's not 113 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:14.480 always fight. Yeah, well there's that. Yeah, well there's that. 114 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:17.600 But I mean there they should be experiencing a surge 115 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:22.839 and mean, you know in uh what he called listenership viewers, right, 116 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:27.040 because this is the time, this is the surge for 117 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:31.240 the selection and not just the selection itself, but all 118 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:34.480 the drama afterwards, all the drama during uh you know, 119 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:38.079 this DNC week should be big for them, right because 120 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:41.040 people are tense thinking things are going to go on. Uh, 121 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:42.839 is there going to be you know, some other thing? 122 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.680 Could there be an assassination attempt against Biden? What about 123 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:46.879 the security for him? 124 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:47.319 Uh? 125 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:49.879 You know, I'm not saying it's real stuff. What I'm 126 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:52.920 saying is that they have all that programming opportunity. Right, 127 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:55.439 let's talk about the Secret Service, and now they're gonna 128 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:57.759 have to protect the actual president instead of just the 129 00:06:57.800 --> 00:06:58.879 candidate to a shot out. 130 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:04.279 And if I think back after well, think back to 131 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:09.240 January sixth, before Biden got shorn in and you had 132 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:12.519 a pipe bomb at the DNC that supposedly was set 133 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:16.120 the night before, which has been recently called in the question. 134 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:20.199 But she had Kamala Harris at the DNC on January sixth, 135 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:24.319 and they find this pipe bomb. How many times in 136 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:26.120 the past three and a half years have you heard 137 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:31.199 reference to it on the mainstream media? How much investigation 138 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:34.639 have they done, especially here lately, We've seen some stuff 139 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:36.920 come out and some of the pundits here on YouTube 140 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:39.879 and then are running on this information that they've gotten. 141 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:44.639 They have found other angles of camera footage and it 142 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.879 doesn't show what the government's claiming happened. 143 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:47.240 Happened. 144 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:50.399 So now, but you know, you think about it, Here's 145 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:53.800 what is a politician like to play up, you know, 146 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:58.120 a near death experience. We had Hillary with her what 147 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:03.720 airplane trip into Bosnia taking fire? Brian Williams and his 148 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:09.040 famous taking fire while in flight which ended his career. 149 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:12.439 You know, it's just funny. Everybody's got that. 150 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:14.720 You've not heard Kamala Harris say one thing in the 151 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:17.560 past three and a half years about being, you know, 152 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:20.240 one hundred feet away from a pipe bomb or less. 153 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:24.680 Kamala didn't say much. See Kamla, this is okay, this 154 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.759 works against my own It's all pre planned, you know, 155 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:32.639 theorem all right, which is that they did. 156 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:36.919 Huh, I said, let me mark my calendar. 157 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:41.080 Yeah, market calendar. Because here it is. They didn't plan 158 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:45.639 on pushing her forward. That was not part of the plan. Okay, 159 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:49.120 I don't know what the plan was at this point 160 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:52.600 because I'm a little confused. See I'm working against myself twice. 161 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:55.759 You honestly think it wasn't part of the original plan 162 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:59.799 because the money connection. I mean that money, that three million, 163 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:01.879 three hundred million or whatever they had in the bank 164 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:06.159 for Biden couldn't go to anybody else without some kind 165 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:07.080 of maneuvering. 166 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:10.440 Yeah, but then Kamaal because she was on the ticket. 167 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:12.720 So I can't believe these guys didn't think about the 168 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:13.720 money first thing. 169 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:17.879 No, the money, Look, the money's always got the offloading possibilities. 170 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:21.600 That's not the key here. The key is that she 171 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:24.440 was not meant to be out there. They didn't even 172 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:29.840 you know, do the prerequisite work to make her a figure. 173 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:32.639 She basically disappeared. I mean, at first, he goes, okay, 174 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:34.039 I'm gonna put her in charge of the border. He 175 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:38.480 did say that, and then she did nothing right, and 176 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:41.679 then you know, basically that's all. It was nothing. You know, 177 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:43.240 every once in a while she come out and go, well, 178 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.720 I believe in Joe Biden, and that was it. And 179 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:49.240 then she made you know, the ancillary campaign stops where 180 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:51.919 they couldn't haul Joe into there, and that was it. 181 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:57.200 She wasn't doing anything to position herself as I'm ready 182 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:59.759 to take on this job, not even in a fakes 183 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:03.120 or a superficial way. So I don't think she was 184 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:06.480 even meant to be primed and ready to go. They 185 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:08.919 had enough. Here's the thing that's missing from the equation. 186 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.639 They had another plan in mind here. Now. I thought 187 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:15.080 they were gonna run Joe through at least one more time, 188 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:17.679 you know, and and prop them up and weekend to 189 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:21.440 Bernie's their way through this selection. Uh. But but I 190 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:24.480 was wrong about that because somebody intentionally, I mean, because 191 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.440 you'd have to be a fool not to know he's 192 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:29.600 gonna implode on live TV during that debate. I mean, 193 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:31.360 I couldn't believe it was coming up when it did, 194 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:34.240 because it was like, how does anybody think he's gonna 195 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.759 make it through that even on his best day. Uh, 196 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:40.320 it's not gonna work his best day, Trump's worst day. 197 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:42.039 You know, he's gonna look better on that stage Trump, 198 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:44.480 it doesn't matter if what he says makes sense or 199 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:46.360 anything else, because. 200 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:50.159 It'll just hurt any referenced to who actually told him 201 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:52.799 to go out there and challenge Trump to a debate 202 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:56.799 that because yeah, big his big advisor was Anita Dunn. 203 00:10:56.799 --> 00:10:59.399 If I'm not mistaken, didn't she leave shortly after he 204 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:02.600 announced he wasn't a good run. She left. 205 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:06.519 She's off doing something else now, or something connected to 206 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:08.000 the Kamala campaign. 207 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:10.320 But do you think it was her? 208 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:13.519 Obama said, look, let's put him out there so that 209 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:15.639 we now we don't have to we don't have to 210 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:16.639 worry about an excuse. 211 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:19.159 No, as everybody sees him, they know he's gone. 212 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:22.480 No, somebody on the okay, it's not somebody that's that 213 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:26.480 close to the surface, because they would have had to say, look, 214 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:30.559 we're ready to, you know, cut him loose. So what 215 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:32.879 we'll do is we'll cut him loose, and here's plan B. 216 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:37.279 But Plan B was never indicated publicly, so I don't 217 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.919 know what the backup was. But I do not believe 218 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:42.840 for a second it was Kamala because it doesn't make 219 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:46.120 any sense. They did no prep work there. You know 220 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.120 what I'm saying, nobody was ready for this, and then 221 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:51.200 they went, oh, look at how exciting it is because 222 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:54.919 of all the backlash, all the pushback. I mean even 223 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:58.639 they're normal, you know, cheerleaders in the MSM. We're sitting 224 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:03.120 there going, I gotta admit, you know, he ain't good. 225 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.360 This is not work, and and that was intentionally done. 226 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:10.799 There is no way that somebody did not know. Look, 227 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:13.679 this is gonna implode right there in public. It's going 228 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:17.039 to be a public spectacle. People are gonna know without 229 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:19.039 a doubt. There's gonna be no argument. There's gonna be 230 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:22.279 no oh agism or you're just picking on our old guy. 231 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:24.840 You got an old guy too. None of that is 232 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:25.679 gonna work. 233 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:29.279 But do you think the order was you know, yeah, 234 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.960 the order to do this was given by somebody, a 235 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:35.480 couple of layers back. But you think they just filtered 236 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:38.399 the word through Obama and Anita donn and said, look, 237 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:41.720 you guys, convince him to do a debate and it 238 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:42.840 will handle itself. 239 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:48.000 Yeah, that's that's the setup. But where is the backup? Like, 240 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.440 there's no hey, look, don't worry about it. See that 241 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:51.919 was the weird thing about it. There was like this 242 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:55.279 panicub what do we do now. I mean, and realistically 243 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:56.519 it's kind of funny to worse. 244 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:58.279 You think it would have been worse for them to 245 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.320 go into an open convention, Yeah, fight out who was 246 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:02.600 going to be the nominee. 247 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:05.639 Yeah, because they would have had to expose again, you know, 248 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.440 having a kneecap somebody like Bernie Sanders, because you know, 249 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.519 somebody might have legitimately risen as a choice, like, hey, 250 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:15.639 look all right, we're not going to go with Biden. 251 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:17.399 We got a guy that we actually kind of like, 252 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:21.159 and people might have actually gotten involved, made their voice 253 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:24.799 heard for a minute, right, and said, hey, look we 254 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.080 got this guy. Let's just say theoretically, and I'm not 255 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:29.559 saying this would happen because I think Sanders learned his lesson, 256 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.480 but theoretically they would have said, look, let's put Bernie 257 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:37.039 back in there, and there might have been enough support 258 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:37.600 to drive it. 259 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.279 Let's just say, you think Bernie. 260 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:41.679 Don't you think Bernie would have been like going to 261 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:45.720 an extreme. I couldn't find somebody, you know, not quite 262 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:50.720 as socialist as Bernie and certainly not as communist as Kamala. 263 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:53.159 Well, but that's the key here, is that it would 264 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:54.840 have worked with the people it doesn't matter that it 265 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:57.519 makes sense. The people would have said, you know what, 266 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.399 we like him, you know what I'm saying, Maybe they 267 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:02.559 can balance out the ticket with somebody who's a little 268 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:07.639 more you know, mainstream, right, that kind of thing. And 269 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.720 it's so it's too funny too, because both vice presidential 270 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.480 candidates are pretty much not I mean, outside of the 271 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:17.279 Fox usual, which is no, no, hey, look, Vance is great. 272 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:19.720 This is just Democrats were attacking us. But the truth 273 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:23.759 is even objective newspeople are like, neither one of these 274 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:27.320 vat peak candidates are good. So they've taken that off 275 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:29.360 the table as to whether even the VP is a 276 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:34.200 discussion here all right, when you got less solid looking 277 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:41.440 personality than Mike Pence, a dvance there, you know, and 278 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:42.039 what are you gonna do? 279 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:44.120 I think's problem is there is not a lot of 280 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:48.000 people knew Lovenim and those that did knew that originally 281 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:51.120 was not for Trump. I think that was the biggest 282 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:54.000 hang up on Jamie Vance. 283 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:57.279 Yeah. But if Trump could get over it. Yeah, But 284 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:00.600 if Trump could get over it and deal with the loyalty, 285 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:05.039 I'm certain his people could. Anyway, the funny. 286 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:07.720 Trump victory being able to win him over to his side. 287 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:07.919 You know. 288 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.679 Oh yeah, he was against the beginning, but he finally 289 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:11.919 came around and learned it. 290 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:13.919 You know, you know his lesson. 291 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.480 Well, right, I mean, come on, everybody from Jeff Sessions 292 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:20.919 on down right, even the dance that Chris Christy did 293 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.039 for a minute. Right, Eventually he's like, look, d it 294 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:27.799 all shakes out. We see who's really loyal eventually, right, 295 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.360 and who's disloyal eventually, And that's the way it goes. 296 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:34.240 So he's pleased with Yeah, I won them to my side. 297 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.759 But anyway, that's not even the point. The point is this, 298 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.200 These VP candidates are a non factor so far, and 299 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:43.919 it's just these two now they're selling this. Oh look 300 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:47.759 at the enthusiasm for Kamala Kamala that even if it 301 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:51.799 was legit is not going to last. Okay, it can't last, 302 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:54.360 not even from their side. Forget about the arguments against. 303 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:58.840 Yeah, it's already started to subside even before the start 304 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:00.000 of the convention on Monday. 305 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:00.919 But that's what I said. 306 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.480 Anybody was hoping that the momentum would carry through, but 307 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:06.519 it's yeah, that's going to short lived experience. 308 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:08.720 Yeah, but that's exactly what I said. What happened the 309 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:11.440 day that it dropped, and I was seeing people online 310 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.039 and even hearing from people, Oh that's it. Trump's toast. 311 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:16.519 Now you're sure he's going to win, now, Chuck and 312 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:20.440 I went yeah, because the enthusiasm is going to dry 313 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:24.039 up faster than that change was made. It's going to 314 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:24.480 be gone. 315 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:28.039 But not only that, her problem is right now, you know, 316 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:31.519 starting day one, the minute Biden announced what he was 317 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:34.440 going to do, you've had the majority of mainstream media 318 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:39.519 suddenly go into separation mode. We've got to separate Kamala 319 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:43.360 from Biden. So anything that's gone up till now we 320 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:46.039 can blame on Biden and we can start on a 321 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:48.200 clean slate with Kamala. 322 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:50.000 And that's basically what they've tried to do. 323 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:52.039 Yeah, you know, along that one. 324 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:54.279 Side, you got the right hand side is referring to 325 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:58.600 the Biden administration now as the Biden Harris administration, which 326 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:00.720 you know they're going to do. And then you've got 327 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:04.359 her side that you know, with the help of the 328 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:08.160 media blackboard that they've got, you know, putting the shout 329 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:10.799 out there, Oh no, we've got somebody new here, Coamo. 330 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:12.759 And she wasn't a part of that. She was busy 331 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:15.640 over here doing nothing on this right, right. 332 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.599 And it doesn't matter. Look, it's welcome to the brand 333 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:21.400 new energy, because look here, here's new energy. Look at 334 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:22.960 how young she is compared to what was in the 335 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.640 race before. Blah blah blah. But I'm telling you that 336 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:29.480 enthusiasm was so fake, so ridiculous that I was like 337 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:31.960 looking at it, going, this shouldn't even really last the 338 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:34.319 weekend in reality. Now they're going to keep playing it 339 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:36.960 like it's lasting. But the truth is people are going 340 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:38.480 to wake up from their little you know, it's like 341 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.400 the buzz, right. I did the thing with the drinking. 342 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:43.480 You didn't like it last week where I said, you know, 343 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:45.559 you do too much drink and you wake up with somebody, 344 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.359 but you don't even get through the night, you know 345 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:49.880 what I mean, you took a nap and now you 346 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:53.480 sobered up a little and you go, uh oh uh h. 347 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:58.720 I shouldn't have taken this person home. Oops. And I 348 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:01.240 think that's as far as we're getting in his dance 349 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.400 and she is, yeah, that's it. 350 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:05.720 Well if you think about but think about how she 351 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:08.160 got where she's at. I mean the minute that that 352 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:10.960 you know, they slid biden in. 353 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:14.000 After what was it. 354 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:18.880 I forget what the event was that happened, and they figure, okay, 355 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:22.599 we need somebody else. This is was Bernie. Bernie was 356 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:24.839 doing so well, and then you know, they had to 357 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:25.599 bring Biden in. 358 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:26.559 They had to. 359 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:29.559 They had to go back to the core old Democrat 360 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:32.839 party and say, all right, to donors, here's the choice. 361 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:35.039 We're either going to go with Biden or you're gonna 362 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:38.400 to deal with Bernie. So what you want? So they 363 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:39.519 stick Biden in there. 364 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:42.759 He gets a big clap on the back from Clydeburne 365 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:45.440 down to South Carolina in the early primaries, and then 366 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.240 he took off and it didn't. 367 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:49.599 Matter what happened after that. Biden was the guy. 368 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:52.000 Well he said right off the bat, just like he 369 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:54.119 did with his Supreme Court pick. 370 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:56.359 Oh, I'm going to pick a woman of color. 371 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:00.559 So everybody starts looking at at Kamala And she didn't 372 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.480 even make it to the first she didn't make it 373 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:06.480 to the Iowa caucus before she dropped out, so they 374 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:09.880 didn't vet her. Then she was a DEI higher And 375 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:11.359 I know a lot of people on the left go 376 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:13.960 crazy when you use that term, but that's exactly what 377 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:16.559 she was. And Joe Biden said as much. I'm going 378 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:18.359 to find me a woman of color, the same thing 379 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:21.400 he did with Jackson when he appointed her to the 380 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:23.920 Supreme Court, is going to be a woman of color. Well, 381 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:27.480 you just excluded what you know, seventy five percent of 382 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:31.079 the people in the industry when you cut out males, 383 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:33.839 and now you're specifically going for about two percent of 384 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:38.000 the population with a woman of color. And that's how 385 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:40.519 she got where she's at. She's never really been vetted 386 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:44.359 on anything, you know. And it's funny when you hear 387 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:47.759 give her speeches now, she always refers goes all the 388 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:50.640 way back to when she was a prosecutor. You know, 389 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:54.559 she was a senator before she became vice president. She 390 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:57.559 doesn't rely on that experience. No, she's going to go 391 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:02.200 back and put on her prosecutor badge. And that's how 392 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:05.519 she's going to govern the country like a prosecutor that 393 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:06.200 ain't communist. 394 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:07.119 I don't know what they hell are. 395 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:09.039 Well, I want no part of it. I don't care 396 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:11.119 what label you slap on it. I don't want a 397 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:14.680 prosecutor at the head of anything. I really don't. Look. 398 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:16.079 If they got to do their job, they got to 399 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:19.000 do their job. But I I Look, how often am 400 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:20.759 I going to complain about the corruption of the court 401 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:22.880 systems and how perverted the whole thing. 402 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:24.759 Yeah, but the first thing out of the gate, she 403 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:28.319 starts talking about price controls. Remember the last time we 404 00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:29.839 had big price controls in place? 405 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:30.240 When was? 406 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:32.920 It was forty years ago under Carter and they were 407 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:37.039 trying to get inflation under control, and they could, well, 408 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:38.720 they're daily learn anything. 409 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:40.119 Back then, they're daily price control. 410 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:42.519 Four years later going to the exact same thing, I 411 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:44.759 interest rates, trying to get it down, trying to get 412 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:49.720 small businesses back in business, and they come right out 413 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:53.240 the door with a policy that is going to kill business. 414 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:56.000 Their daily price controls on plenty of things. Some of 415 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:58.640 them are a little less visible than others. But look, 416 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:00.519 here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take a break. 417 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:02.680 I know we got one caller on the line so far, 418 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:05.160 but I am telling you now, we don't have to 419 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:08.079 devote this to the presidential selection tonight. We can talk 420 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:13.440 about anything. I have a Asbury Park Press story because 421 00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:16.599 I always look at Jersey and apparently in the town 422 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:19.559 where I was born, Long Branch, on the fifteenth, they 423 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:22.680 found a twenty nine year old woman dead. This is 424 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:25.599 a crazy story at a long branch New Jersey. Maybe 425 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:28.680 I'll get into that, Maybe we'll get into the Matthew 426 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:31.400 Perry thing that's going on in the courts. I don't 427 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:34.119 know if people really care about that, the whole ketamine deal. 428 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:36.519 He was getting ketemine therapy, then he went to the 429 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:39.519 street to get it. Then he's dead, and people. 430 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:42.799 Out interesting facts have come out about that one already. 431 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:44.440 Well what they milked him. 432 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:47.559 For like fifty five thousand dollars in about what two 433 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:48.160 months time? 434 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:49.440 Well, amazing. 435 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:52.599 Yeah, there's a lot of weirdness going on there. And again, 436 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:54.920 you know, our wonderful court systems are they going to 437 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:56.920 reveal the truth or get to the bottom of things, 438 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:01.119 you know, whether it's Matthew Perry or it's your speeding ticket, 439 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:03.519 good luck anyway, it doesn't matter. 440 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:07.400 Let's go on that note. Later on, we're going to 441 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:08.039 discuss this. 442 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:11.400 The US Fifth circ At Court has described something the 443 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:16.200 government has been doing as categorically unconstitutional, and we'll get 444 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:16.720 to that later. 445 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:21.079 Oh well, that's a good one. Categorically unconstitutional. We only 446 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:24.000 have two hours, bepete, I mean just saying, you know, 447 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:25.240 so a lot to cover there. 448 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:27.160 This is going to affect a lot of people, and 449 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:30.039 you're gonna hear more about it here very soon, because 450 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:32.799 a lot of people don't realize that this goes on 451 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:33.319 every day. 452 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:34.319 Yeah, well, and. 453 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:35.960 Even in the smallest of communities. 454 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:38.039 The point is a lot goes on a lot every 455 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:44.319 day that ends up being unconstitutional, undemocratic, unfair, unreasonable and 456 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:47.400 on all kinds of things. We got lots of onions 457 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:51.079 for you. And plus there's a supermoon coming up, and 458 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.079 who knows how that's going to affect people? You know, 459 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:55.359 I bet you know ninety percent of our audience thinks 460 00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:58.000 that when a full moon is happening and people are affected. 461 00:22:58.279 --> 00:23:00.680 I wonder how true that is. Maybe we'll get into 462 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:04.200 that during tonight's discussion and anything you want to bring up. 463 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.759 Three one nine, five two seven, five zero one six 464 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:11.279 three one nine five two seven five zero one six 465 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.640 The Ocelli Effect. Open Mic Friday Night will return, even 466 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:17.240 though I'm sick of a dog still. 467 00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:10.000 Oh chilly dot com revelation through conversation. 468 00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:12.240 Can you've expressed my callers schools? 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You want your strong. 529 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:40.480 Cancer from. 530 00:28:50.200 --> 00:30:14.680 Side side st anything switching, taking the theatre and the 531 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:15.799 s seing. 532 00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:16.279 The s. 533 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:47.759 O Chilly dot com get ready get ready for you. 534 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:54.880 At okay so back to live on a Friday and 535 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.960 you can join us three one nine five two seven 536 00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:00.599 five zero one six. I really want to hear from 537 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.680 you guys, your opinions. What caught your eye this week? 538 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.599 What is of interest to you? Is it all about 539 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.240 the presidential selection? Is that all we're gonna talk about? 540 00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:13.920 For the next three months. I don't know, let's see, 541 00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:17.640 it's up to you for sure. I do want to 542 00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:20.920 at some point get to an update on Lancer because 543 00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.359 seems to me, like I don't know, maybe maybe not 544 00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:25.559 not as many people are interested in going this year 545 00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.400 as last, but I would love to see you guys there. 546 00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:31.359 I'm gonna be there, and it's gonna be an interesting time. 547 00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:37.519 So you know, the stuff going on around the convention, 548 00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:43.920 the conference is gonna be the key really, but even 549 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.000 the presenters. It's gonna be an interesting time, man, And 550 00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.160 we're gonna be there, you know, as it happened right 551 00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:50.480 on the twenty second and all that. So when we 552 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.640 do the moment of silence over there on the NOLL, 553 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:59.000 which I plan to participate in, and frankly I never 554 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:03.440 have before, so you know, I'm gonna do that. It's 555 00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.160 going to be the first time for me. It ought 556 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.839 to be interesting. We're going to do it at the 557 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.759 time of day, on the day on the twenty second 558 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:15.240 that it happened. So anyway, there's that, and who knows 559 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.200 what else will be planned, And there's I hear tell 560 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:22.680 a rumor of a possible little excursion bus. Maybe that 561 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.799 might be procured and could be a little group trips 562 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.039 here and there, people chip in on the gas or whatever, 563 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:35.279 and there could be some interesting adventures awaiting us. Anyways. 564 00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.759 So but that's Dallas, Texas on the twenty second November 565 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.039 to the twenty fourth this year. It is not the 566 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.240 conference that starts on Thursday, which is being run by 567 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:48.200 a group that has an innocuous name and involves Judy Baker. 568 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.680 It is the not Judy Conference. Okay, So anyway, I. 569 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.559 Would say that would be part of the bus trip 570 00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.119 is go by her place and everybody go in crash it, 571 00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:01.000 go walking through her little you know, present, and get 572 00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:01.720 back on the bus. 573 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:10.840 Be peat, I fells, be Pete. 574 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:16.559 I don't want to laugh to it. 575 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.639 Where one conference hickles another. 576 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:23.960 Conference, you know what, It happens every year, though it 577 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:26.760 does happen. It has been happening ever since there was 578 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:31.079 the Lancer and Copa conferences going on, so you know 579 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:35.480 it every year ever since Esque broke up, right, the 580 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.360 Esque conference, which was sort of like a catch all, 581 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:41.440 there was one conference at one point, it just wasn't big. 582 00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:44.400 They didn't have you know, the big hotel booked and 583 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:46.719 all that. Exactly the same, but it was pretty good. 584 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:51.760 They ask conferences. Anyway, there's all that happening, and I 585 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:53.719 really if you get a chance to be a part 586 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:55.440 of it, you out there or if you're in the Dallas, 587 00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:59.519 Texas area. Uh, you know, there's all kinds of possibilities, 588 00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:01.480 all sorts stuff up in the air. I don't know 589 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.840 all what's gonna happen, but anyway, I've had a rough week. 590 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.760 I've been sick all week, canceled shows, couldn't do them. 591 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:09.679 I was going to do a show with Swanson last 592 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:12.199 night and uh, and I called him up and I 593 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.320 was ready. I thought maybe and he said, you know, 594 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:18.719 you don't sound good, And he decided to do next 595 00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:21.880 week with me. And he's got some interesting stuff he's 596 00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:23.239 going to lay out. We're going to go into some 597 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.639 financial issues and news because that's happening to be Pete. 598 00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.119 While this is all going on. Uh, you know, the 599 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:33.280 market had its interesting bounces, didn't it is is everybody's 600 00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.440 economy still sucking for them, although they're telling us it's 601 00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.000 getting better. Is that happening? I think? 602 00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:39.119 So? 603 00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:44.119 Anyway, enough out of me, definitely, and uh, frankly bepeat 604 00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.079 enough out of us for now. Let's get to the 605 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:48.320 callers and see what they got on their mind first 606 00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.840 and foremost, and again you can join us at three 607 00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:56.719 one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six and uh, hey, 608 00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:02.599 we're going with this. And I thought I had my 609 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.239 timing perfect and everything, and the button stuck. But anyway, 610 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:06.840 I think I got Jimmy James on the line. 611 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:10.480 Yes, she do. 612 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.639 There you go. It's working, Jimmy, And I'm not throwing up. 613 00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.599 So look, plus plus column, how you doing tonight? 614 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:20.639 Do? 615 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:21.239 I'm good? 616 00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:23.239 Christain is the next day on. 617 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:29.880 I believe he may be. Let me see, it looks 618 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.400 like he might be. Yeah, you know why he doesn't. 619 00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.960 His name doesn't come up on the board here. 620 00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.719 Well, you might as well let him and open it up, 621 00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.199 because he's the only one that seems to listen to 622 00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.000 what I say anyway, And he's the only one who 623 00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:52.320 seems to be keep it up with my water keep Chris. 624 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.760 Okay, he's the uh you know, he's a little more 625 00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.800 liberal though, Jimmy, it doesn't matter. 626 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.320 We're not talking about politics. You don't seem to get it. 627 00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.280 This is something that happened fifty years ago. 628 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:08.800 Oh I do get It's true. 629 00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:11.320 I do get it. It was one of the first 630 00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:13.159 things I ever read about in the newspaper. I knew 631 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.880 about it, and it was politics back then. But anyway, 632 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.320 I think this is Danny. I think this is Danny 633 00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:21.400 on the line, Danny. 634 00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:25.199 Where you got the wrong Danny. 635 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:30.719 But yeah, crap, I'm sorry, it's actually Harlan. All right, Harlan. 636 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.119 Let me you know, Harland listens to Jimmy. 637 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.519 Now, now, Jimmy, do you want Do you want Harlan 638 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:38.840 on the line or do you want me to put 639 00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:41.079 him back on hold? It's your time. I'll give you 640 00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:41.599 the choice. 641 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.039 Well, as far. 642 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.719 As I know, Harlan, that seemed very interested in my 643 00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:53.280 water gate thoughts, so I don't know. 644 00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:54.199 Let's ask me as well. 645 00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:56.639 Just put him on for a minute and I'll just 646 00:37:56.760 --> 00:38:01.480 get through what my new is off on the water gate. 647 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:06.079 All right, Harlan, Harlan, you're absolutely up next, okay, So 648 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:08.199 let me put you back on hold and I'll get 649 00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:10.079 you as fast as I can. Jimmy, go for your 650 00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:11.519 watergate go ahead. 651 00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:16.000 Real well. 652 00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:21.360 For who who may concern, I would think everyone that 653 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:29.440 no nobody cares. That's fine, I do care, well, I 654 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:35.719 do you. I don't think anybody seems to see exactly 655 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:42.840 the Uh, well, anyways, what is what is. 656 00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:45.079 The ultimate thing you're after here, Jimmy, What what is 657 00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:48.599 it that you would like exposed or acknowledged here regarding 658 00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:52.440 Watergate that has been previously covered up? What is the 659 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:56.239 what is the big headline you want the world to get, Jimmy, 660 00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:59.760 James is gonna impress a fact about Watergate onto people 661 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:03.000 in this world right now? What is the one thing 662 00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:04.320 you want that headline to say? 663 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:13.960 Okay, well, here's my newest little discovery on that now. 664 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:20.280 John O'Connor, who's one of the top Watergate history guys, 665 00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:25.840 I'm certainly not. That's not mine. I don't even pretend 666 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:29.840 to be an expert Watergate. However, I do happen to 667 00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:32.400 know a lot of the characters have evolved because a 668 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.360 lot of them mirror. The characters have evolved the JFK. 669 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:36.920 Don't they chuck a lot of. 670 00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.199 The mirror or pop back up or are associated too? Yes, sir, 671 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:40.679 go ahead. 672 00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:51.239 Yeah. And of course, John O'Connor, Jeff Shepherd, the former 673 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:55.159 investigators have all come to the conclusion that the CIA 674 00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:57.239 was responsible. 675 00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:58.320 For them. 676 00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:05.320 The smoking God was the fact that James McCord was involved. 677 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:09.960 If James McCord was involved, the CIA was involved, and 678 00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:14.760 therefore Richard Helmes was involved. And I'm telling you it 679 00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:24.719 is not true really based on my little research. Well, 680 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:29.000 John O'Connor flat out has come up and they all 681 00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:33.800 agree pretty much. Everyone says that we are Pennington, whoever 682 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.360 he is, was mister McCord's. 683 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.679 Handler, handlers. 684 00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:46.480 And as mister O'Connor puts it, well, since Pennington was 685 00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:52.599 McCord's handler, and obviously he says Pennington was CIA, this 686 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:57.880 is a CIA thing. Well, it didn't take me very long. 687 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:03.159 This is the problem with everyone in their little historical communities. 688 00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:07.119 They simply don't see what else is going on. It 689 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.320 didn't take me time as to find out that Lee 690 00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:14.320 Pennington had nothing to do with the CIA. He was 691 00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:18.320 one of the very earliest members of the FBI from 692 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:22.920 back when as the Bureau of Investigations. But yeah, I 693 00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:28.119 agree that wee Pennington was indeed McCord's handler. And then 694 00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:33.280 based on my I don't mean to where mister Pennington 695 00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:38.880 was the number one Soviet more even bigger than mister Busy, 696 00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:45.119 even bigger than mister McCord. One of the earliest going 697 00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.320 back to literally nineteen twenty nine. 698 00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:52.039 So I don't know. 699 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:53.719 I think that's kind of big. 700 00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:56.679 I think it's big too. And you know, I'm not 701 00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:59.679 going to argue with you. I have always said that, 702 00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:06.119 you know, this idea of see, I think Helms is involved, 703 00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.519 but not in a way of like directing this or 704 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.599 controlling this. I think in the aftermath of it, he 705 00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:16.079 wanted to utilize it, uh to uh, you know, to 706 00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:21.440 continue to have his fiefdom kept in place, which has 707 00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:23.599 nothing to do with holding on to your directory. 708 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.239 It does make sense to me that possibly, I mean, 709 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:32.280 let's face it, Nixon was talking to a lot of commons, 710 00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.000 and Helms would have been well into this right. 711 00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.599 To check, to trust but verified. 712 00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:45.119 Maybe he had a legitimate situation where he wanted to 713 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:48.519 see what was going on, and maybe this was piggyback. 714 00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.119 To common Yet I don't know that. 715 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.280 So far, I can't find nothing saying Helms was involved. 716 00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:57.400 Everyone assumes it because McCourt was involved. 717 00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:00.199 Well, and they also make that stupid assertion of well, 718 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.039 the head of the CIA had to be involved. The 719 00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.280 head of the CIA, you know, the guy who is 720 00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:08.599 at the top, the director is not read into everything. 721 00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:14.519 They're just not They don't need to be read into everything. Okay, 722 00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:18.199 I know that sounds crazy to some people. How can 723 00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:20.440 you say that Alan doles knew everything? No he didn't. 724 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.280 That's not the way this war they want. 725 00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.599 They want possible deniability. 726 00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:34.280 Exactly exactly, that's exactly see now, BPTE. Even exactly all 727 00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.480 of us can agree on this. The guys who are 728 00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.599 at the leader in the leadership positions are precisely in 729 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.480 those leader positions to not be exposed to everything that 730 00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:47.519 is dangerous. That is the point of them being there. 731 00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:51.639 They don't need all that knowledge. They want plausible deniability. 732 00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:53.960 They want to be able to pass the lie detector 733 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.920 tests and go on TV and legitimately say or go 734 00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:59.599 in front of a you know, Senate subcommittee, or go 735 00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:01.480 buy to close the door and see. 736 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:05.079 On front of Congress. You know, is their biggest colors 737 00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.360 looking for. So that they can't get up there and say, well, 738 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:08.880 you know, I'll have to get back to you on that. 739 00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:12.519 But you can't slip up information you don't have. You 740 00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:14.880 know what I'm saying. You can't accidentally go well I 741 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:16.320 knew this guy. Well, if you knew him, then you 742 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.480 knew this. No, you don't even have to think about 743 00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:22.320 those connections if you are already insulated from them, right. 744 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:24.480 I mean, I got a question for the both of you, 745 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:26.039 as anyone. 746 00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:28.320 Do you know of anybody that has looked into the 747 00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:34.360 aspect of how many inner agency moles were involved between 748 00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:36.280 the CIA and the FBI? 749 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:37.719 I mean how many? 750 00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:40.840 I mean, you know people the FBI had people in 751 00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:44.039 the CIA, and we know the CIA had people in 752 00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:44.639 the FBI. 753 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:46.159 I'm just curious to. 754 00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:50.079 Know how that lattice, that crossover worked its way up 755 00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:52.639 through the administrations over the years. 756 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:54.639 Well, I'm going to tell you that anybody that says 757 00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:57.079 they know what the entire lattice looks like on that 758 00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:03.400 is lying, because it's possible. There is constantly a game 759 00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:05.519 going back and forth here. And we know this, and 760 00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:07.480 even Jimmy brings it up. Since the time of the 761 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:11.079 Bureau of Investigation, not the FBI, but the thing that 762 00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:15.280 was organized into the FBI later Okay, even since that time, 763 00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.239 there's inter agency Yeah, but you know, some of this 764 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.079 inner agency stuff had to go on, go on with 765 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.280 some of the stuff that they were pulling off back 766 00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:25.880 at that time. 767 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.199 You know, after after the Korean. 768 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:32.639 War, the agencies really started getting busy, you know, and 769 00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.000 you had Nixon. Nixon was caught in China at the 770 00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.559 time that he kissed a lot of people off when 771 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.719 he went and met with the leader of Maine mainland China. Yeah, 772 00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:44.559 trying to set everybody on their ear. 773 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:45.800 I'm just curious. 774 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:48.119 Do you guys know of anybody that has ever or 775 00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:50.199 if you heard of anybody that has ever come out 776 00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:50.880 and told the story. 777 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.639 Yeah, I used to. I was at CIA, but I 778 00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:56.880 was working for the Yeah, lots of guys have tried 779 00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:57.639 to tell the story. 780 00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.039 Do you mean double agents or triple agents, as in 781 00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.440 the FBI is fine on the CIA or do you 782 00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.440 mean that a Soviet mole? 783 00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.960 Are you Soviet mole or just the agency? 784 00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:21.280 Well, we've had Soviet moles through both agencies, so I 785 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:22.960 mean they're going to cover what they're covering. 786 00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:25.760 Yeah, I'm talking about double. 787 00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:28.679 Moles where you got you know, the CIA the FBI 788 00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.719 are actually covert each other. 789 00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:39.760 Yes, I found a document which says that James Jesus 790 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:45.480 Ankleton was one of the most prolific UH dime droppers 791 00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:46.559 in the history. 792 00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:47.079 Of the FBI. 793 00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:53.199 They said he was constantly giving them copious amounts of 794 00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:58.159 information to the point that they literally was talking about 795 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.800 starting a wing just for his information. 796 00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:05.519 He was providing. And I could guarantee that the CIA 797 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:06.880 director didn't. 798 00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:06.920 Know that. 799 00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.199 Unless it was some kind of misinformation disinformation. 800 00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:16.039 Yeah, and I'll give you one obvious, so obvious that 801 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.599 it hurts because it's just ridiculous that it's out there 802 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:22.000 and plain sight like this issue. A guy named Gerald 803 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:26.239 Ford ends up on certain committees, gets certain information from 804 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:28.920 one place, and is magically able to carry it to 805 00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:33.880 people at the FBI. Uh while he's in Congress. You know, 806 00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:36.639 he just magically. You look at how quietly Ford pops 807 00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.239 up here here, here, here, here, and take a look. 808 00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:40.920 At his character. 809 00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:44.159 Yeah, and I'm telling you now, he was informing the 810 00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:46.840 FBI of stuff that they were trying to keep from 811 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.840 the FBI constantly. So and that was his purpose on 812 00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:52.960 the Warrant Commission. Well, yeah, and I. 813 00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:55.920 Find it funny that through history, you know, they he's 814 00:47:56.159 --> 00:48:01.559 he's they've hit him with the misnover of him being 815 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:04.679 really dumb. I mean, look at how. 816 00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:08.079 He's portrayed on The Simpsons. You know, Jerald Ford, he's 817 00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:10.880 just some dumb guy from Michigan. Well, Saturday Night Live, 818 00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:13.599 Jevy j He had his fingers in everything. 819 00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:15.159 That's what's so amazing about it. 820 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:18.039 But you never heard he was one of those that 821 00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:21.599 could operate silently and he never would have guessed. 822 00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.400 Because you're never going to look at the incompetent idiot. 823 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:27.400 I mean even even on JFK specials from the eighties, 824 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:29.920 you can hear people go, hey, Gerald Ford, couldn't you know, 825 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:31.800 take a leak and chew gum at the same time. 826 00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:37.000 Uh, you know, it was like, what it's where he 827 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:37.639 turned up? 828 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.440 You know, if he's mistering competent, I don't think I 829 00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:42.360 would have had him doing some of the stuff he did. 830 00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:44.760 I mean, you know, it's like, how come we got 831 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.159 the guy from the special ed class on the physics team? 832 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:48.480 You know what's going on here? 833 00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:48.800 Really? 834 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.039 It keeps happening. It's like, oh, it's just Jerry. You know, 835 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:55.480 It's okay, now, it's just Jerry. He just happened to 836 00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.199 be there to get you know. Yeah, no, no, he's 837 00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.280 up there. He'll be fine, exactly. And it's too funny 838 00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:03.079 because I mean he goes way back before the Simpsons, 839 00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.199 Like I said, you know, Chevy Chase it all. 840 00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:08.719 So yeah, oh yeah, he's always had that He's always 841 00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:10.440 had that meme about him that he was, you know, 842 00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:12.719 just this incompetent boob. 843 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:17.360 Right and incompetent nice guy boob. No big deal, mister vanilla. 844 00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:20.920 You know I'm not doing anything big. But take a 845 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.159 look at where he is, and he's just constantly showing 846 00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.760 up in lots of sensitive places where the FBI would 847 00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.719 love to get heads up on stuff, and they do, 848 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.239 so you know, Hoover was well informed, and then the 849 00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:39.960 FBI afterwards, after Hoover is well informed of a lot 850 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:41.960 of things that they wouldn't have been without Ford. In 851 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.360 my opinion, now it's circumstantial. I don't have absolute proof 852 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.400 of this, but just take a look at where he 853 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:51.079 pops up. It's very interesting anyway, that's the in plane 854 00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.559 sight argument. And of course what better way to hide somebody, 855 00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:57.079 to make him, you know, part of the idiot squad 856 00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.800 and all that. So there's that. Let's it over to 857 00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.280 Harlan and also remind people three one nine five two 858 00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.920 seven five zero one six is the number to call. 859 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:09.760 Jimmy's on hold. Now we'll get to Harland now, and 860 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:13.039 whoever calls in next is next? Is that simple? I 861 00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.679 got open lines and I got about one hundred of them. 862 00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:18.480 So back to Harlan, h we put back on hold 863 00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:21.679 because he thought he might be Danny. Harlan, what's on 864 00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:22.679 your mind this week? 865 00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:28.800 Well, you know, i'd like to when I get done, 866 00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:33.239 I'd like to joke Gallas chain on what she's talking 867 00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:36.519 about about the sleecret service agent, you know, trail and 868 00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:39.519 mouse and disappearing to go Breaskleeds, you know, her baby. 869 00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:42.480 But as far as what you're talking about right now, 870 00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.400 I mean I always kind of thought that the Watergate 871 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:47.800 thing kind of came from next and you know, just 872 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:49.960 to get rid of it, you know, just for spots 873 00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.599 and a final gun of China stuff and you know, 874 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.159 probably taking us off the gold standard too. And he 875 00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:01.000 this used to be readily available on you. But you know, 876 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.159 his uh type recordings that he had, he said a 877 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:10.760 lot of political and correct things you know about Jesus 878 00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:12.639 mind right. 879 00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:16.400 No, all that's true. I don't think they got rid 880 00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:18.920 of him for that, I got to tell you, but 881 00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.239 they definitely orchestrated this to make sure. Look, he's got 882 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.960 to go. And uh, you know, I've always joked it 883 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:27.880 was too soon for the CIA to arrange for another 884 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:28.599 bullet in his head. 885 00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:29.519 And uh. 886 00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:31.440 And the only reason why I say the CIA is 887 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:35.280 not because they arranged for Kennedy even but because they 888 00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:37.679 were definitely involved in the cover up, and they wouldn't 889 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:39.960 have been able to orchestrate yet another cover up of 890 00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:40.599 that kind of thing. 891 00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:41.440 Uh. 892 00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.079 And and it's that simple, you know, So whether they 893 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.199 were the active party to really, Yeah. 894 00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:49.719 Cover ups back then were a whole lot easier than 895 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:50.280 they are now. 896 00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:55.599 Of course, well easier, I have harder, well, easier and 897 00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:59.719 harder though, because you know, you could sometimes have stuff 898 00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:04.320 get out there back then, Uh, that would be earth shattering, 899 00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:06.719 but as long as you controlled it really quickly, it 900 00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.360 might go away. Stuff nowadays does not go away. So 901 00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:13.039 that's on the one side. But on the other side, 902 00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.840 you know, it might have actually been a little harder 903 00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:22.639 than too, because people understood certain things. You can always 904 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:27.119 flood confusion into the market now and make things disappear. 905 00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.519 That kind of confusion wasn't as easy. Once certain things 906 00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:33.719 stuck back then, you weren't going to get rid of them, 907 00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.280 you know what I mean. It wasn't as easy. Uh. 908 00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.119 Well, but the thing is that, you know, the major, 909 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:42.599 the major way that the public found out about stuff 910 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:46.079 was through the media, not knowing that, not realizing that 911 00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:50.440 the media back then was agency controlled as well. So yeah, 912 00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:52.599 things came out to the media, but it was only 913 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.280 certain things that were allowed to come out. 914 00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:54.719 Through the media. 915 00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:58.039 Well yeah, like I say, true, they had. 916 00:52:57.920 --> 00:52:59.639 To well look at the Pentagon papers. 917 00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.719 They had to go to Elswhere's psychiatrist office and break 918 00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:05.800 in to get information. 919 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.519 Not as easy as not. It's not one as easy 920 00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:13.119 then as it is now. Between these government agencies that 921 00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:14.559 are recording everything that. 922 00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:18.239 Goes on electronically in the world. Yeah, eventually they're searchings 923 00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:19.199 and I'll get around to it. 924 00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:22.519 Yeah, but see there he goes. The other part of it, right, 925 00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.159 is back then you would have had to produce mountains 926 00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:29.199 of paper to overflood the information, you know, and get 927 00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:32.000 out there and drown it in a bunch of crap. Nowadays, 928 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:35.719 it's easy to drown a serious fact in eighty different things, 929 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:38.599 eighty different ways, you know what I mean. Like you 930 00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:40.800 could just turn around and say, well, you know, we've 931 00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.880 got this one recording back then, right and it sticks out. 932 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:46.800 But today you can go, well, that's okay. We recorded 933 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.440 every second of every day from sixteen different cameras, now 934 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:51.480 go sort through them, you know what I mean. In 935 00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:53.000 other words, you can get overwhelmed. 936 00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.119 Well, not only that, you know, you get a story 937 00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:58.119 hit that you automatically crank up your AID bots to 938 00:53:58.159 --> 00:53:59.800 go out there and create a bunch of media. 939 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.400 Uh that's nothing but misinformation. So then you have to 940 00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:06.039 wead through that. 941 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.000 Hey, you know, it's just easy to muddle stuff now electronically. Yeah, 942 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.639 but all of the ways that they have to manipulate data. 943 00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:14.239 Yeah, it's funny. 944 00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:16.599 It's like you said, back then, it was bury somebody 945 00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:19.239 under a mountain of paperwork to find that one item 946 00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:19.880 they're looking for. 947 00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:23.519 Right, But today you can bury it under so much 948 00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:27.239 noise that it gets lost, you know. Uh, because just 949 00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:29.800 you put out a couple of real things and then 950 00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:33.000 you just drown it in the crap. And then okay, 951 00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:35.239 you figured out what separate the crap from the reel, 952 00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:39.400 and they can't because it's just it's overwhelming. It's impossible. 953 00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:43.360 It takes AI bots to do it right. So it's 954 00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.760 like the battle of the AI bots. My AI bots 955 00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.039 are going to drown you in crap, and now your 956 00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:51.119 AI bots have to pick the uh you know, the uh, 957 00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:54.000 the salt out of the sugar, you know what I mean, 958 00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:54.559 go for it. 959 00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:56.960 The h what was it? The end. 960 00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.039 Drift and con dank creators. You know, they can't run 961 00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:06.639 fast enough to make something out to be just whatever 962 00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:11.039 that leans in the direction to getting beets, regardless fitsfacts 963 00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:13.440 or not. They won't aim way right, like. 964 00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:15.719 That boxer, like that boxer thing that you brought up, 965 00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:17.639 Like that boxer thing you talked about a couple of 966 00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:20.960 weeks ago, Harlan, where it was like instantaneously we had 967 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.599 the whole Oh it's a guy. It was a guy. Hey, 968 00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:25.599 he was a guy, and then maybe it wasn't a guy. 969 00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:29.519 You know, they were so fast on the gun there, 970 00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:32.280 going for it, making their point. They had gone ten 971 00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:35.400 points deep before somebody even checked to see if it 972 00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:38.079 was real, you know what I mean, And well. 973 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:38.519 A lot of it. 974 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.679 Well I was gonna say I never understood that point 975 00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:49.000 when when y'all bought it up last week, I thought, 976 00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:53.119 I thought the Boxing Association UH had said, yeah, the 977 00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:56.400 guy is a guy. I mean, here's his chromosome readout boom. 978 00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:59.599 I didn't think there was any debate about it, no, no. 979 00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:02.320 But at this point I got to say it looks 980 00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:05.440 to me like we don't know. And the final determination, 981 00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:08.000 from what I could understand is that that was actually 982 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:08.360 a woman. 983 00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:11.280 No. 984 00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:14.679 The two boxers I'm thinking of at the Olympics, they 985 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:19.599 were both turned down by boxing Federation because they had 986 00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:20.880 X Y chromosomes. 987 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:26.800 They're men. The Olympics scene didn't take. 988 00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:29.480 I was that, you know, you've got the IBF, you've 989 00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:33.159 got the all the different federations for boxing, but the 990 00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:35.239 one that controls them all came out and said no 991 00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:36.800 to qualify for these bouts. 992 00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:40.719 We did the tests, we did the swabs, they x Y. 993 00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:46.280 Chromosomes their men, and the Olympics did disallowed that argument 994 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:51.639 and said, well, we're accepting them as trans Regardless of 995 00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.840 what said that was the big debate was what my 996 00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:56.280 understanding They both. 997 00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:59.320 Are guys, quite and simple. I mean, unless you got 998 00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:01.599 another way to mend I don't know. 999 00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:03.519 Look, I will check in the standard. 1000 00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.159 I tell you how I'm measured. My standard is when 1001 00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:09.559 you pull their growers down the head of vagina, the 1002 00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:14.079 lower gift home. They're a girl. You know that's my standard. 1003 00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:14.280 Thing. 1004 00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:16.079 Best Vallet won't no, But. 1005 00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:17.880 I get his point about this. If there was an 1006 00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:21.000 X Y chromosome. Then that's that. But I don't know, 1007 00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:24.320 I thought that it was determined actually the other way. 1008 00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:26.400 You see, Now that's no, and that that. 1009 00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:28.840 Was the big argument is before these get one during 1010 00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:32.559 qualifications for the Olympics, to let these guys get in. 1011 00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.880 That was the argument that started some of these coaches 1012 00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:38.719 and all and federation said. 1013 00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:39.119 Wait a minute. 1014 00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:44.360 The International Boxing Federation, the worldwide federation that governs all 1015 00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:48.239 of us, have determined these guys are guys, and that's 1016 00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:50.639 the argument. And the Olympics said, well, we don't look 1017 00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:53.480 at their criteria. We have our own, and that's how 1018 00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.239 they were allowed to box. I mean, you know, it's 1019 00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:58.519 I just thought it was strange that now they had, 1020 00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.880 you know, domestic violences a metal sport in the Olympics. 1021 00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:09.400 Well this uh Imani khalif that one, Yeah, let me 1022 00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:12.960 look into it. Okay. Herventry came just hours after Olympics. 1023 00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:16.559 Uh I mean the statement that they made here is 1024 00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.800 pretty definitive that she was born a woman. Let's see. 1025 00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:25.880 I don't know, I'm gonna I'm gonna check into this 1026 00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:28.320 while you guys talk. But I did. I brought it 1027 00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:30.440 up as a side issue actually, but go ahead orlan 1028 00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:31.559 whatever else is on your mind. 1029 00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:39.360 Good, well, it's this whole situation about the secret servant 1030 00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:42.239 agent that run off the breastfeed. I mean, what have 1031 00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.480 you guys heard about that? And by the way, before 1032 00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:49.360 you get back to me on that, you know what 1033 00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:52.760 the last probably what's it been five six, seven years? 1034 00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:57.360 It's kind of died off lately. But on social media, 1035 00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.239 you had two main things. Did this thing my could 1036 00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:04.039 come out of nowhere? Number one was it was like 1037 00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.400 it was a sin against humanity if a woman had 1038 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:10.400 to put gas in her collar. And number two, all 1039 00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:13.679 of a sudden, you start having all these people saying 1040 00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:18.159 that women should be able to breastfeed anywhere at any time. 1041 00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:22.039 And you know, I'm sitting here thinking like, well, why 1042 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:24.039 couldn't you done it out in the call? I mean, 1043 00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:26.880 couldn't you fed the kid before you know, you got 1044 00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:31.400 to a restaurant. I just didn't understand that, you know, 1045 00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:33.320 I mean, it wasn't like you was trapped on a 1046 00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:40.280 cruise ship somewhere, but you know, just kind of stuck 1047 00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:43.000 after me. I believe there's just a bunch of propaganda 1048 00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:46.000 the bush and bullshit in my opinion, both of those things. 1049 00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:52.599 So go ahead, but anyway, be Pete, what's your. 1050 00:59:52.559 --> 01:00:01.639 Thoughts on specifically? I'm sorry, I'm unlike you. I'm gazing 1051 01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:02.960 headlines at the same time. 1052 01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:07.239 Well, we could always go ahead and take a break. 1053 01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:08.920 Let me check the phone lines here. I don't see 1054 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:11.440 any new calls, but anybody can join us if they 1055 01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:14.280 like at three one nine, five, two seven, five zero 1056 01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:20.519 one six. Let's see. Ibas called into question with the 1057 01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:27.639 body last year, citing the ongoing failures. Wellsh you know, 1058 01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:31.440 all right, anyways, I feel like I should go to 1059 01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:33.840 a break here because I'm trying to do this. And uh, 1060 01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:36.360 I was looking at other headlines as well before this, 1061 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:39.639 before I delved into this thing. Uh, let's see, I 1062 01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:43.840 was looking at the rundown blah blah blah blah. There's 1063 01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:46.559 a bunch of stuff on different musicians, things going on there. 1064 01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:50.719 Matthew Perry, I brought that up already. But that ketamine deal, Uh, 1065 01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:54.880 what's actually happening there? Who knows? But that's an ongoing trial. 1066 01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:55.719 Uh. 1067 01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:59.519 We have the various legal actions that are simply not 1068 01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:04.840 happening regarding uh the presidential selection stuff. He uh, you know, 1069 01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.840 did you happen to catch the conference from Trump in 1070 01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:11.360 New Jersey Carl and the old Look, I'm gonna put 1071 01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:14.000 up the slides about groceries and stuff. 1072 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:17.000 No. 1073 01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:21.239 I'd heard something the other day. A friend of mine 1074 01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:23.679 was talking about how Camala said she was gonna come 1075 01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:27.880 out and you know, freeze prices or stop you know, 1076 01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:30.840 prices on groceries going up. And you know, like I 1077 01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:33.159 told him, so, well, that sounds all good, but you know, 1078 01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:37.519 let's see it actually happened. Because from what I understand 1079 01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:39.760 that you when Nixon tried that, you know, and this 1080 01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:42.960 was from people years ago that lived through it, that 1081 01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:45.199 was old enough to be a dope be there that 1082 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.639 you know, it just didn't work. It just changed the 1083 01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:51.800 sizes of things. And then they got around it that way. 1084 01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.400 And uh, but I just don't see how that's gonna work. 1085 01:01:55.280 --> 01:02:00.599 And and generally speaking, because you know, you're not going 1086 01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:03.599 to be able to shrink the taxes that's been raised 1087 01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:05.760 and the rent that's been raised, and a lot of 1088 01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:09.119 costs that's went up. I mean, I don't want it 1089 01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:12.000 to pay nothing that I don't have to like anybody else. 1090 01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:15.840 And there is a lot of price gouging. But some 1091 01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:18.119 of the stuff that this is aimed at, it doesn't 1092 01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:20.800 look like to me. And I'm not just trying to 1093 01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.159 find something to poke a hole and what she said 1094 01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:25.920 or you know whatever. I just don't see how it's 1095 01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:28.039 gonna work in actuality. 1096 01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:32.320 I you know, I don't know how any of this 1097 01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:34.280 is going to work again. You know a lot of 1098 01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:38.400 these claims that are made by the executive branch candidates. Uh, 1099 01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:40.119 you know they're gonna do this, They're gonna do that. 1100 01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:41.960 A lot of times I listened to a carefully and 1101 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:43.400 I go, how are you even going to do that? 1102 01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:45.239 You know what? Where? 1103 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:45.639 Where? 1104 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:49.079 Well this stuff that they can do, you know, I 1105 01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:51.800 mean look at the promises that you know, Trump made 1106 01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:54.599 a lot of stuff. If he just kept his mouth 1107 01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:56.960 shut up, you know, on him would have been a 1108 01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:58.840 big help. But you know, there's just a lot of 1109 01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:03.320 things that they're not going to do that's going to 1110 01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:07.760 positively affect you or you know, your rats. You know, 1111 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:11.079 as a human man, it's same slack to me. You know, ohman, 1112 01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:15.840 I loved the round, but it's not looking that way. 1113 01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:18.400 May I go ahead? 1114 01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:21.519 I don't know see according to a bunch of this 1115 01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.719 stuff I'm reading b Pete. By the way, it's not transgender. 1116 01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:25.199 Uh. 1117 01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:28.440 The International Boxing Association, a governing body for the spot 1118 01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:33.679 Bard Khalif and Taiwanese boxer after the IBA claimed they 1119 01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:41.400 failed unspecified gender uh eligibility tests. The International Olympic Committee right, 1120 01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:44.960 which called the IBA's decision quote arbitrary and ban the 1121 01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:50.199 association over corruption concerns last year. Blah blah blah. Okay, 1122 01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:51.480 the Algerian boxer was. 1123 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:56.480 Born female with IOC doesn't recognize the IBA. The IBA 1124 01:03:56.679 --> 01:03:59.840 is the International Boxing Association, and they do one to 1125 01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:02.519 for people that are going to compete, and that is 1126 01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:06.920 they do a testosterone level test that automatically will knock 1127 01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:09.039 out a lot of the issues. But when they find 1128 01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:13.239 somebody that has high testesterone testosterone, they do another test, 1129 01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:18.400 and this one they actually checked chromosoonal a chromosoonal check 1130 01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.280 and both boxers have came up with an x Y 1131 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:26.519 chromosome and that's why they were banned because that's according 1132 01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:30.239 to their criteria, that's a male. Now, what they have 1133 01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:32.719 come up with is this argument that there are some 1134 01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:38.440 rare instances connected to health issues where females well I 1135 01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:42.159 think I bat males with an x Y. Some are 1136 01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:47.199 born with female genitalia. They haven't said that that's the case. 1137 01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:52.079 And then there's this other syndrome where because of hormones 1138 01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:54.639 and everything else in a person's body, and you know, 1139 01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:56.400 everybody's different to a degree. 1140 01:04:56.920 --> 01:04:58.280 There are cases where. 1141 01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:07.760 Men can exhibit female characteristics in their hormonal content. And 1142 01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:14.119 apparently the or is it the Algerian that boxer has 1143 01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:18.000 always identified as female? Now no one has come out 1144 01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:21.800 and said, this person's got female genitalia and that's why 1145 01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:25.480 we allowed it. It's not you're right, it's not an 1146 01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:27.679 issue of trans And if I said that, I miss both. 1147 01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:33.199 The Olympics did not consider them trans. They considered them women. 1148 01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:37.440 So yeah, it's kind of a legal, scientific, you know, 1149 01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:38.599 conundrum right now. 1150 01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:40.519 Exactly what is the case. 1151 01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:43.079 We don't have all the facts or I don't know 1152 01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:45.039 if anybody's been through a strip search or not. 1153 01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:48.559 But maybe that's what it takes to end the controversy. 1154 01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:52.519 Yeah, but see, now here's the weird part is physical manifestation. 1155 01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:55.000 Like you said, you could have somebody who is effectively 1156 01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:58.159 female but ends up with a lot of male hormones 1157 01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:00.639 and ends up with some you know, or vice versa, 1158 01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:03.159 ends up with some of the you know, like the uh, 1159 01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:07.440 the glands will develop in the breasts and you still 1160 01:06:07.480 --> 01:06:10.599 have a penis you know, which you are too. 1161 01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:12.880 Oh of course, character is like breast cancer. 1162 01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.039 Everybody thinks that, you know, when you think breast cancer 1163 01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:18.360 saved the boots, you think women, Yeah, they suffer from it, 1164 01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:21.519 but men suffer from best breast cancer just as well 1165 01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:24.039 because of hormones and things of that nature. 1166 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:25.960 So yeah, I mean, man, it's. 1167 01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:27.360 Something that they're going to have to come down and 1168 01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:30.239 make a decision on, you know, will the truth come out? 1169 01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:33.599 Is this individual actually a woman? But based on the 1170 01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:35.679 IBA tests, they both came. 1171 01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:37.760 Up with X Y chromosomes not xx. 1172 01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:43.119 I'm trying to fragilects where you have an additional X chromosome, right, 1173 01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:45.840 But that's not the case, and just muddies. 1174 01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:46.119 The water here. 1175 01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:49.199 Yeah, Like, and what would you call that? I don't know, Uh, 1176 01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:49.679 you know. 1177 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:51.920 What I'm saying, colex, that's fragile X syndrome. 1178 01:06:52.320 --> 01:06:54.360 No, I know, that's FRAGILEX. But what I'm saying is 1179 01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:55.920 if you have to put that in the male or 1180 01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:58.639 female box or is it in a third category box? 1181 01:06:58.920 --> 01:06:59.480 You know what I mean? 1182 01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:06.760 Yeah, exactly exactly, because you're exhibiting well one hundred percent 1183 01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:08.679 of each you've got an X line and you've got 1184 01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:10.519 an XX all on the same body. 1185 01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:12.079 Yeah. 1186 01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:13.440 See, why am I seeing ideas? 1187 01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:16.880 I'd like to say something here. Why is it that 1188 01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:22.519 these problems are usually from somewhere overseas and this isn't 1189 01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:26.519 an everyday thing that we say here in America. I mean, 1190 01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:28.639 I think myself, it's where you get a lot of 1191 01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:33.039 these these third world countries that they have to be 1192 01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:37.679 some you know, close chromosomes from being though from the 1193 01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:40.719 old daddage, the closer to ken. I mean, there have 1194 01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:43.119 to be some men breeding down the line somewhere. You 1195 01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:46.760 wouldn't have this this much. I mean it was very rare, 1196 01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:47.639 you know. 1197 01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:52.639 I went through four Remember who was cook? 1198 01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:59.800 Was it? It was the afron Yeah cast Semina remember 1199 01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:04.639 that South African middle distance front. There was some question 1200 01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:11.360 about their gender and let's see one two Olympic gold medals, 1201 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:13.519 but I remember there was some kind of controversy. 1202 01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:15.519 Yeah. 1203 01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:17.680 Well, in some. 1204 01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:20.680 Minea's victory at the two thousand and nine World Championships, 1205 01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:22.760 she was made to undergo sex testing and cleared to 1206 01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:26.720 return to competition the following year. The decision to perform 1207 01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:29.840 sex tests and spark controversy in the sporting world and 1208 01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:31.680 in Semenya's home. 1209 01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:32.560 Country of South Africa. 1210 01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:38.039 Later reports disclosed that she had an intersex condition five 1211 01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:43.520 a reductaste to deficiency and natural testosterone levels up in 1212 01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:46.399 the male range. So this is one of those instances 1213 01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:49.760 where somebody is a female but they trip the trigger 1214 01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:52.359 on a testosterone test and they have to go and 1215 01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:54.119 do further testing, right, and. 1216 01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:57.720 Astone task could come from steroids. 1217 01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:00.840 That yeah, that was my next That was my next thought. 1218 01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:02.680 Is that a whole lot of steroids, like a lot 1219 01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:05.680 of the human growth hormone stuff and everything else can 1220 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:10.079 skew these results. You know, human growth hormonal skew results 1221 01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:12.840 to female in a lot of cases, right for a 1222 01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:14.359 male the other way around. 1223 01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:17.600 And that's why that's why they're so critical about somebody 1224 01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:21.520 being injured and some of the therapies that they use, 1225 01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:23.880 because those steroids that they use a lot of times 1226 01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:28.800 when people have ligament industries or ligament injuries and things 1227 01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:29.479 of that nature. 1228 01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:32.319 What's the first thing can do? You put them on steroids. 1229 01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:35.720 It clears it right up, but it also triggers the 1230 01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:39.199 testing that they do and disqualifies somebody, So they have 1231 01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:42.199 to be very careful about how they treat injuries just 1232 01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:44.439 to get around that hormonal problem. 1233 01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:49.520 Right, And one more issue here is that And I 1234 01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:52.279 was crap. I might have lost my train of thought here, 1235 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:57.520 but it's it's a little different, all right. How can 1236 01:09:57.560 --> 01:10:00.199 I put this never mind? You know what, I'll I'll 1237 01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:02.279 put it aside for now, and I try and grab 1238 01:10:02.399 --> 01:10:04.199 my train of thought once again, because I lost it 1239 01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:07.920 on this hormone issue. I wasn't thinking of that. I 1240 01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:10.439 was thinking of, Oh, I know what it is here? Sorry. 1241 01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:14.159 In the US, Harlan says, why is it always overseas? 1242 01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:17.119 I have an answer for you, and you might or 1243 01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:21.199 might not like it. We run a lot more blood 1244 01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:24.800 tests here on everybody, even stuff like you going, okay, 1245 01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:26.920 I'm gonna get my panel run for this or that. 1246 01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:27.319 Right. 1247 01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:30.760 There's a lot of testing done, and I bet a 1248 01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:32.880 lot of data collected that you never get to see 1249 01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:36.159 or know about that isn't part of your medical treatment. 1250 01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:40.960 There's store data all the time, and between that and 1251 01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:42.800 the you know twenty three and me and all this 1252 01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.680 other stuff all across you know, the US, there's tons 1253 01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:49.439 of data and tons of blood being drawn that's being analyzed. 1254 01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:54.520 Eighty different ways, So it's more likely that they would 1255 01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:58.880 screen out a lot of things early here, I'm thinking, 1256 01:10:59.079 --> 01:11:02.399 because it would have already been caught by something, you know, 1257 01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:05.319 And when we run tests on our athletes, I mean 1258 01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:07.520 I guarantee you that ron or blood tests here in America. 1259 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:10.720 Yeah, well, not only that, you have a lot of 1260 01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:14.319 countries that you know, participate in the Olympics that would 1261 01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:16.199 be considered third world. 1262 01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:17.720 So you've got this. 1263 01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.239 You know, we're going to George here. George has been 1264 01:11:21.319 --> 01:11:23.760 running his whole life. He's been running these hills in 1265 01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:27.880 the middle of Africa. He's a long distance runner. But 1266 01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:30.760 George has always been raised as a girl. You know, 1267 01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:34.039 these cultures that treat these things that come up in 1268 01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:35.840 the human species differently. 1269 01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:39.399 You might be pulling somebody that's. 1270 01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:44.079 A hurdler from the middle of Rhodesia that lived, you know, 1271 01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:47.520 back in the in the sticks, who's always been raised 1272 01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:51.000 a female because of some condition that was treated a 1273 01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:54.039 certain way at a certain time. It doesn't factor in much. 1274 01:11:54.520 --> 01:11:57.520 But you look at the vastness of the human population. 1275 01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:01.720 There's what two hundred and two hundred and sixty countries 1276 01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:04.720 I think that take part in the Olympics. So you 1277 01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:09.199 have you have got a you know, the perfect full 1278 01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:12.039 deck spread of what you're going to come across from 1279 01:12:12.039 --> 01:12:13.000 the human population. 1280 01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:16.840 Qualifying one is either a boy or a girl. 1281 01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:21.039 So splus some of these people come from places where 1282 01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:24.880 medicine isn't it's still you'll practice by guys with rattles 1283 01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:25.520 and masks. 1284 01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:28.399 Well maybe so. And you also have the instance of 1285 01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:31.159 like you know, remember the people used to love that 1286 01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:33.880 movie Cool Runnings, right with the Jamaican bob sled team. 1287 01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:35.600 If you take a look at the way that some 1288 01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:38.920 of these you know, Olympic appearances are funded and stuff. 1289 01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:42.279 You know, it's not like they have tons and tons 1290 01:12:42.279 --> 01:12:45.359 of extra money to be running extra blood tests and 1291 01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:49.359 everything else. They might be doing the bare minimum, you know, 1292 01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:52.359 whereas the US has probably drawn you know, eight gallons 1293 01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:54.319 of blood off of somebody over time by the time 1294 01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:58.039 they get to the Olympics and run every conceivable test imaginable. 1295 01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:01.840 So, like I said, you know, perfect example of that condition. 1296 01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:05.399 Look at Lance Armstrong. Look at the technology that went 1297 01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:09.199 into how they doped for every year that he was 1298 01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:12.000 running in the Tour of France, and that was America. 1299 01:13:12.119 --> 01:13:14.960 Know how that allowed them to be able to cheat that, well, 1300 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:17.239 look at the chemistry involved. 1301 01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:20.000 You know, they're taking this today, they're pumping blood the 1302 01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:23.479 over oxygenate overnight and the next day two shots of 1303 01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:26.640 this little bit of steroids on the side and boom. 1304 01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:29.039 I'm sure an foe figured in there a couple of 1305 01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:29.760 times as well. 1306 01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:31.159 In the whole treatment. 1307 01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:33.159 They had it down to a science. So I'm being 1308 01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:37.720 able to cheat and avoid detection for how many years? 1309 01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:40.319 What he had? Seven championships something like that. 1310 01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:48.399 And the other thing there is again the amazing quality 1311 01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:53.199 with which you know, okay, you I don't know how 1312 01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:58.279 to even word this properly. It's like the Russians and 1313 01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:01.239 these Germans. For a while there there was all kinds 1314 01:14:01.239 --> 01:14:05.079 of whispers and accusations because there was some pretty interesting 1315 01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:10.560 looking people that were, you know, suddenly amazing athletes, okay, 1316 01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:16.079 and nobody busted them because they probably were already ahead 1317 01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:19.119 of the testing, you know what I'm saying, Like, if 1318 01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:22.760 you're using your government's best people to mask or to 1319 01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:24.800 come up with something new that they don't test for, 1320 01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:27.119 you know, it was sort of like some of the 1321 01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:29.600 some of the designer drugs at a certain point in 1322 01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:33.039 the later eighties, right you could go take the drug test. 1323 01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:34.960 You could pass it, but you were getting high all 1324 01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:37.279 day every day. Just you weren't getting high up a drug. 1325 01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:40.359 They were looking for U. Sort of like that, but 1326 01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:44.239 imagine in the doping way right where they enhanced certain things. 1327 01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:47.359 We've had teams from China and Russet, you know that 1328 01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:49.520 had been no this year. 1329 01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:52.680 In fact, what was it? Was it one of the 1330 01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:53.800 Chinese teams? 1331 01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:57.119 I forget which sport was banned from the Olympics because 1332 01:14:57.159 --> 01:14:59.800 of doping. You know, the old joke used to be, 1333 01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:04.159 you know, look at the leotards of the Chinese and 1334 01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:08.520 the Russian female athletes, how many bulges do you see? 1335 01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:10.119 You see if they're sprouting new ones? 1336 01:15:10.199 --> 01:15:12.159 Yeah, right, exactly. 1337 01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:14.359 And that was the thing is that was the big 1338 01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:15.800 joke in all. It was sort of like, you know, 1339 01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:17.800 when all of a sudden, Barry Bond's head started getting 1340 01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:20.840 really big and nobody knew what was going on yet 1341 01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:23.600 because they weren't testing for whatever it was he was. 1342 01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:28.520 Taking, right, or what was it Mark McGuire, he was 1343 01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:31.960 he was the ANFO frequent Yeah, well, Mark McGuire. 1344 01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.399 Was another guy, right, he was taking stuff that wasn't 1345 01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:38.279 banned yet. Or Roger Clemens too right. I think even 1346 01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:40.279 was taking stuff that wasn't banned yet. 1347 01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:41.239 You know. 1348 01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:43.319 It's like, so if they're taking a substance that they're 1349 01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:47.359 not testing for, and you have you know, some government 1350 01:15:47.479 --> 01:15:49.960 science office working on this, they're going, well, we know 1351 01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:52.560 what it is they test for, so what can we 1352 01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:54.479 give them that'll do the same thing and not come 1353 01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:58.840 up in the test. I think that's been going on forever. So, 1354 01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:02.199 you know again, but here we go. If you meet 1355 01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:05.119 the minimum qualifications and you can show up and compete 1356 01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:08.560 for you know, like you said, Rhodesia or some country 1357 01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:12.199 that you know only existed for two years. Anyway, you 1358 01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:16.079 know whatever, Right, they're gonna do the minimum testing. They're 1359 01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:18.279 not looking for gender to who's gonna do everybody a 1360 01:16:18.399 --> 01:16:22.399 gender test? You know what I mean, Like it'll come 1361 01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:25.079 up in America, it'll come up here, and plus will 1362 01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:26.560 be a whole lot of people that are eliminated for 1363 01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:28.560 other reasons. Hey, it turns out you were actually sick 1364 01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:31.680 with this. Let's get ahead of this, start giving your chemotherapy. 1365 01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:33.439 Oh well, you won't be able to compete in the 1366 01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:37.760 Olympics this year. Well, you know again, you know, long 1367 01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:41.600 distance runner from Middle Africa country. He wasn't tested for 1368 01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:44.159 that cancer or whatever, you know what I mean. He 1369 01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:46.800 might have it doesn't matter because he's not gonna get 1370 01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:49.439 tested for it, so he doesn't get knocked out either. 1371 01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:52.920 I don't know. It's just it's a weird plethora of 1372 01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:56.800 possibilities here. Like you said, you got the full spectrum 1373 01:16:56.880 --> 01:16:59.720 possibilities when it comes to what they're going to catch, 1374 01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:02.199 what they're not going to catch. If somebody's giving them 1375 01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:05.199 stuff intentionally to be ahead of a curve that it's 1376 01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:08.680 chemical they're not testing for yet. You know, Like let's 1377 01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:12.319 just say they discover somehow that the urine of rats 1378 01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:17.319 is somehow an enhancer. Nobody's testing for urine rat urine 1379 01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:20.840 in your bloodstream, okay, And and they go, look, if 1380 01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:24.119 you inject this, it does this great miracle thing. Until 1381 01:17:24.199 --> 01:17:25.960 they catch up to it and start testing for it. 1382 01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:29.760 People can shoot that up all day and they're passing 1383 01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:34.680 the tests right. And there's a lot of things, and 1384 01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:36.720 there's a bunch of things that misdirect people on these 1385 01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:40.000 sex tests. I know that, like you were talking about, 1386 01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:43.039 there's conditions where it's like they can appear to be 1387 01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:46.920 one thing they're not because of you know, hormonal conditions. 1388 01:17:47.319 --> 01:17:50.760 Then there's I'm saying, there's a bunch of different possibilities here. 1389 01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:54.159 So I think that's why I'm not finding this definitive, 1390 01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:58.880 absolute answer regarding whether this woman was a woman or not, 1391 01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:02.680 you know, except for the politically correct one, which is definitive. 1392 01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:05.000 You know, well, maybe maybe we need to go back 1393 01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:09.039 to the First Olympics and they all performed their sports 1394 01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:09.680 in the nude. 1395 01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:13.319 That way, we'll know I'm not watching that. 1396 01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:17.920 Hey, I you'd have a lot more viewership. 1397 01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:22.600 And yeah you would, but you know you I don't know, 1398 01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:25.439 uh Harland, you still on the line. 1399 01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:29.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just about to tell you go 1400 01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:33.000 ahead and turn turn Jimmy Luce, I go ahead, and 1401 01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:35.800 time for matter is just handing over to him because 1402 01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:38.239 I'm out here in the middle of nowhere in the Panandlea, Texas, 1403 01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:40.520 and I'm liable to lose signal at any time anyway. 1404 01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:44.239 But uh, you know, as far as I'm concerned, you know, 1405 01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:48.319 I'm like you, these people's coming from me, you know, 1406 01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:53.159 third world countries and things, and you know they're probably 1407 01:18:53.439 --> 01:19:00.159 picking the stround with woman they can find, you know, 1408 01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:03.760 who knows what they've been given for how long I 1409 01:19:03.880 --> 01:19:06.439 can agree with what you guys are saying about. You know, 1410 01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:09.520 you they may not have a test for whatever they've 1411 01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:12.239 been given. And there again, it might just be all natural, 1412 01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:17.239 but it's all natural, and say Rhodesia instead of Rhode Island. 1413 01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:23.079 And when you're dealing with you know, God knows how 1414 01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:25.960 many different you know, types of human dens here at 1415 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:30.520 different races and different environments, and that it's like, you know, 1416 01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:34.359 it's just like you're in America. You know, Native Americans, 1417 01:19:35.399 --> 01:19:38.159 you know, they don't process alcohol like you know white 1418 01:19:38.279 --> 01:19:41.800 and black Americans. See. You know, that's a fact from 1419 01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:45.920 what I understand. So you know, when you're doing stuff 1420 01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:48.960 all over the world, there's gonna be some variances there. 1421 01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:53.760 But this whole shit that you know that she was 1422 01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:57.840 a you know man and blah blah blah. There's always 1423 01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:03.560 been some little bit manly manly like women I think. 1424 01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:05.439 I mean, I was on the plane ride once with 1425 01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:11.039 a basketball team from a Montana college and I mean 1426 01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:13.560 every one of them, you know, it was Amazon's. I 1427 01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:16.880 mean they was six foot till the six six the 1428 01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:20.439 majority of them, and probably every one of them could 1429 01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:22.439 have whooped my ash. You know when I was in 1430 01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:25.439 my late twenties, you know, unless I cheat it or 1431 01:20:25.479 --> 01:20:27.359 you know, had something like you know, co cop them 1432 01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:30.119 or sucker bust them first. But I'm just saying, you know. 1433 01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:34.079 Yeah, I agree with you, and it's it's look, it's 1434 01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:37.000 it's an odd environment, man, because again, there's a whole 1435 01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:39.319 bunch of things that might be in the system of somebody, 1436 01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:42.239 you know, as a normal process. And by the way, 1437 01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:44.920 in case anybody's gonna get mad about you bringing up 1438 01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:47.920 the Native American thing or whatever, here's the truth. If 1439 01:20:47.960 --> 01:20:53.000 you talk to an actual qualified anesthesiologist, ask them about 1440 01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:56.239 whether racial profiling is necessary, because it is. 1441 01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:02.479 Uh, there are well you can't you can't even get alcohol, 1442 01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:04.720 and a lot of places in Alaska and on the 1443 01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:08.640 reservations and you know things like that. But and by 1444 01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:13.079 the way, the Montana basketball team that I was thinking about, 1445 01:21:13.159 --> 01:21:15.880 they was all white too. That I said that I remember, 1446 01:21:16.079 --> 01:21:19.159 So it wasn't like, you know, this was a you 1447 01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:22.960 know a lot of different races from all over the country, 1448 01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:25.079 you know whatever like that. You know, some of these 1449 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:28.239 women's basketball teams has got over the years. I mean, 1450 01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:30.960 this wasn't whatever her name was got caught the pot 1451 01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:33.960 over in Russia. You know situation, a lot of people 1452 01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:36.720 kids saying that, you know, she's a man, you know, 1453 01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:39.640 doesn't look like it, you know, I mean that it's 1454 01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:44.880 came out that that's the truth. But you know, I 1455 01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:49.239 mean here again, I'm just using that for example. And 1456 01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:51.880 I'll be the first one that meant I don't care 1457 01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:55.399 about the Olympics. It ain't that big a deal to me. 1458 01:21:56.880 --> 01:22:01.119 I actually have a Russian that's you know, to USS 1459 01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:04.279 or Olympic twenty two rifle. But you know, outside that, 1460 01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:06.840 I mean, the Olympics just really ain't never been my 1461 01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:10.479 saying one way or the other. But look at these 1462 01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:14.760 you know, women's basketball teams for example, do they have 1463 01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:21.279 the normal five foot to you know, five seven girls 1464 01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:24.239 basketball team in high school or does a lot of 1465 01:22:24.359 --> 01:22:28.279 them have you know, six foot tall you know, muscular 1466 01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:34.039 you know, or taller you know, large females. What's kind 1467 01:22:34.079 --> 01:22:36.319 of the same way you know that it's going to 1468 01:22:36.399 --> 01:22:39.439 be in the Olympics. I mean, there's not really a 1469 01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:43.880 conspiracy there. That's just who they're picking, right, you know, 1470 01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:46.800 because that's who's gonna win. That's the reason why that 1471 01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:48.880 you know, there's more black people in some of these 1472 01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:53.079 sports than you know, they are white people, because there's 1473 01:22:53.119 --> 01:22:55.119 a lot more of them can win. I'm not saying 1474 01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:57.800 to say a little bit of you know, discrimination towards 1475 01:22:57.880 --> 01:22:59.880 some of the you know, getting some of the white 1476 01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:03.439 players on the team, but it's just become a fire 1477 01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:06.079 and you know, they won't payople to win, and that's 1478 01:23:06.119 --> 01:23:07.359 who that you're going to pick. 1479 01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:11.159 Real simple, And in basketball, height is an advantage, right, 1480 01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:13.920 real simple, doesn't matter. I don't care race, anything else. 1481 01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:17.239 Height is an advantage. And here's the thing. Typically, Uh, 1482 01:23:17.319 --> 01:23:19.399 you're gonna find a lot more black girls are taller 1483 01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:24.159 than white girls. It's just a typical thing. And uh, frankly, 1484 01:23:24.479 --> 01:23:26.840 uh it doesn't matter what race they are. Anytime I've 1485 01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:30.640 seen a well oiled basketball team, they're usually not the 1486 01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:33.000 prettiest ladies. I mean, it's just that simple. 1487 01:23:33.520 --> 01:23:33.640 Uh. 1488 01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:39.319 They're rather masculine looking to me. And this is long 1489 01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:41.880 before steroids. I used to watch you know, some of 1490 01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:44.159 the girls' basketball team and Neptune High School in in 1491 01:23:44.520 --> 01:23:49.399 New Jersey. For God's sake, Uh, you know, I I 1492 01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:53.199 gotta tell you it was like, oh, okay, you know, 1493 01:23:53.640 --> 01:23:55.600 did you want to pick a fight with any of 1494 01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:56.199 these ladies. 1495 01:23:56.279 --> 01:24:00.680 Hell, I'm seeing people later on going what what was 1496 01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:01.560 he talking about? 1497 01:24:01.720 --> 01:24:03.920 I know, I know, I'm gonna get a call from 1498 01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:06.279 somebody I went to high school with. You watch one 1499 01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:08.239 of these nights, gonna be like, how dare you? I 1500 01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:10.680 was on the team, And he'll be like, there was 1501 01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:11.239 on the team. 1502 01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:15.319 Well, now, I'm just in fairness and so that the 1503 01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:16.720 other side is represented. 1504 01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:20.800 I'm gonna say there are a few female basketball players. 1505 01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:23.760 That I've looked at and thought, yeah, I'd go out 1506 01:24:23.840 --> 01:24:27.159 with her or some of them pretty hot maybe something. 1507 01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:32.560 Hey, look, you guys, do you but you know? 1508 01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:33.039 Uh? 1509 01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:36.119 But but Britney Grinds or whatever her name is is 1510 01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:40.359 way more typical of you know. 1511 01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:42.840 And TMZ has some instat I think we mentioned it 1512 01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:43.640 a couple of weeks ago. 1513 01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:47.520 DMZ has some interesting footage of Brittany playing basketball next 1514 01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:51.119 to her pool shirtless and I'm will tell you what, 1515 01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:54.039 when you look at the video, looks like a guy. 1516 01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:58.560 Uh Okay, well you know, and I'm not gonna say 1517 01:24:58.640 --> 01:25:01.239 that she doesn't resemble me to me either, But to 1518 01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:04.319 my understanding, born female has always been female. But I 1519 01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:08.560 don't know, you know, I don't know definitively how about that. 1520 01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:15.199 So but yeah, look, there's nothing you can do about it. 1521 01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:17.119 But but when it comes to race and chemicals, though, 1522 01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:19.239 I just want to make something clear. You talk to 1523 01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:23.359 an anesthesiologist about it. Because I happened to have one 1524 01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:28.359 of those conditions that's specific to your genealogy when it 1525 01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:33.000 comes to anesthesia. So I and I happen to know 1526 01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:37.319 that there's very typical things for certain groups of Asian people. 1527 01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:39.960 You can't give them certain types of anesthesia, you will 1528 01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:40.399 kill them. 1529 01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:45.279 That's something that a guy that I used to work 1530 01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:50.600 with redheaded, Yeah, he had some issues with anesthetic. 1531 01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:52.520 And I got to thinking about it. My dad was 1532 01:25:53.039 --> 01:25:57.920 had red hair, yeah, and he he was having surgery. 1533 01:25:57.920 --> 01:25:58.680 He was in the Navy. 1534 01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:00.600 He had a bone ship or bone for something in 1535 01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:03.039 his elbow. They were doing surgery on him. He woke 1536 01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:06.800 up during the surgery and they had given him enough 1537 01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:07.840 to knock out an elephant. 1538 01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:10.319 Right there is we found that out, and I never. 1539 01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:14.000 Knew that that redheaded people have a different reaction to 1540 01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:16.840 certain anything that's connected. 1541 01:26:16.479 --> 01:26:20.399 With cocaine, procaine, any of those, and. 1542 01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:24.039 Certain other chemicals that they use for common anesthetics don't work. 1543 01:26:23.880 --> 01:26:27.760 On that pharmaceutical, right, that pharmaceutical class. Here's the weird 1544 01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:31.319 connection to that. And it's not redheads but close. Uh. 1545 01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:35.960 Here's the weird pharmaceutical thing. That family of drugs that cocaine, 1546 01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:38.079 ladicane and all those kind of things are part of. 1547 01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:44.720 Is like you're you're highly resistant if if you have 1548 01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:48.760 a certain lack ready for this, a certain lack of melanin, 1549 01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:53.520 if you have a lack of pigmentation in your genetic code. 1550 01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:58.199 I am an ocular albino, okay, which means that I 1551 01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:01.520 don't have pigment in. Weird blue color that my eyes 1552 01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:05.039 are is not natural, it is it appears that way 1553 01:27:05.119 --> 01:27:09.840 because I lack pigmentation, okay. And a lack of pigmentation 1554 01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:13.600 is one of these things that if you connect it 1555 01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:20.399 to certain anesthetics again in that cocaine family, yeah, it 1556 01:27:20.560 --> 01:27:25.600 doesn't work properly. So I can have serious resistance to 1557 01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:28.359 not like when I go to the dentist and I get, 1558 01:27:28.520 --> 01:27:32.600 you know, even novacane. Did your dad ever have trouble 1559 01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:41.560 get novacane for a dentist? Repete? I saw your camera 1560 01:27:41.640 --> 01:27:43.039 for a minute, but I don't hear you right now. 1561 01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:48.159 You might have muted yourself well anyway, until you get 1562 01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:53.399 off your mute button or whatever. Here's the thing when, yeah, 1563 01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:57.079 when you I go get to get novacane, it doesn't 1564 01:27:57.159 --> 01:27:59.840 work very well. They have to keep shooting me up 1565 01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:02.800 before I can actually get some relief a lot. It 1566 01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:06.640 takes an excessive amount of novacame to work for me, 1567 01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:09.399 not because I'm enjoying it, but because it literally does 1568 01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:12.279 not deaden the pain until you go to an almost 1569 01:28:12.359 --> 01:28:14.920 toxic amount. The same thing happened to me when I 1570 01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:16.600 got these shots in my back, when I got these 1571 01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:19.039 certain epidural shots, and they were supposed to give me 1572 01:28:19.039 --> 01:28:22.000 a shot for pain, and then another thing they put 1573 01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:27.159 I forget a line basically into your spinal cord directly. 1574 01:28:29.560 --> 01:28:35.319 They almost put me out permanently because they overdid it. 1575 01:28:35.399 --> 01:28:37.800 They were supposed to overdo it a certain way, and 1576 01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:40.119 they did the math wrong and overdid it to like 1577 01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:42.720 they gave me an amount that would kill a normal person, 1578 01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:45.920 and it didn't kill me. It just gave me some troubles, 1579 01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:48.800 took my heart rate down too low, and stuff like that. 1580 01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:53.399 But anybody else pretty much who doesn't have this problem 1581 01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:56.119 with a lack of pigment that causes you to be 1582 01:28:56.239 --> 01:29:02.239 resistant to a certain anesty anesthetics. Yeah, it would have 1583 01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:05.920 killed somebody like that. They were like freaking out. They 1584 01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:08.119 thought they definitely were gonna have to rush me somewhere 1585 01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:10.800 to uh, you know, to to give me some sort 1586 01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:14.359 of uh you know, countermeasure in an emergency room somewhere 1587 01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:18.159 in a trauma center because uh but they didn't need to. 1588 01:29:18.239 --> 01:29:19.840 They just you know, okay, they could shake me and 1589 01:29:19.960 --> 01:29:22.600 walk me around a little and I was good. But 1590 01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:25.920 that amount could have killed I think, the nurse lady said, 1591 01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:30.640 two people normally. But it's just because of this weird 1592 01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:33.119 there's some weird thing about if you lack pigment. 1593 01:29:34.039 --> 01:29:37.720 You uh you know, yeah ick that gush man I 1594 01:29:37.800 --> 01:29:41.199 mean out there, but you meant magic carpet, rat ice strap, 1595 01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:44.239 that fying out put that. Guys tell you shit, you 1596 01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:46.560 won't you won't know where yet you won't hear you 1597 01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:47.079 go ahead. 1598 01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:50.279 Yeah see now I can't experience that like when I 1599 01:29:50.359 --> 01:29:54.159 did it like illegally. Yeah well no, without the mask, 1600 01:29:54.319 --> 01:29:56.359 I did it illegally. I could get a little high 1601 01:29:56.399 --> 01:29:58.840 off it. But here's the funny thing about like again, 1602 01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:02.199 anesthesia is a weird kind of like science, but you 1603 01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:06.560 got to pay attention to people's race and people's genetic well, 1604 01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:11.159 not genetics necessarily, but people's racial makeup has a lot 1605 01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:16.880 to do with typical reactions to anesthetics. Like the nitrous 1606 01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:20.880 oxide will knock some people just out done and they 1607 01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:24.680 have no memory, no recall, they're nothing right. But until 1608 01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:28.039 you get them there, they don't even feel it, you 1609 01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:30.319 know what I'm saying. There's no in between. Other people 1610 01:30:30.439 --> 01:30:32.680 get to have fun, they experience it, they get it 1611 01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:35.880 coming in coming out all that stuff from the nitrous oxide. 1612 01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:36.079 Right. 1613 01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:39.279 See, I don't get to have fun with the nitrous oxide. 1614 01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:41.520 When they do with the mask and they actually you know, 1615 01:30:41.640 --> 01:30:43.600 take a deep breath. It either is working or it 1616 01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:47.000 ain't working. For me, there's no fun in between, you 1617 01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:47.960 know what I'm saying, Harlan. 1618 01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:50.720 That last time I had some of it, I had 1619 01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:52.560 to go out and sit in a truck for almost 1620 01:30:52.640 --> 01:30:55.279 and our you know, temp them off of it. My 1621 01:30:55.399 --> 01:30:57.239 nice draft that out on it was like, you know, 1622 01:30:57.319 --> 01:30:59.720 you use a more spade. I mean you saying lights 1623 01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:01.840 and Lucky Star drags. 1624 01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:04.720 Yeah, I wish. But for me, you know what happens 1625 01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:07.159 when I get up out of that, It's like, oh, 1626 01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:09.319 I just had a little lost time. Oh, it's time 1627 01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:12.520 to get up. Cool, and I'm up, like, I don't 1628 01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:15.000 even feel it. Oh, you might be groggy, you know. 1629 01:31:15.039 --> 01:31:18.039 And they always forget, and because they don't know me personally, 1630 01:31:18.119 --> 01:31:19.840 so they go, oh, you cannot drive for a little while. 1631 01:31:19.880 --> 01:31:21.359 I'm like, you know what, if I could drive, I'd 1632 01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:24.399 probably be fine cause I'm not even feeling it, And 1633 01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:26.319 they're like, are you sure you're not a little No, 1634 01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:29.880 I'm good. Everything's good, matter of fact. The only thing 1635 01:31:29.960 --> 01:31:31.039 is my mouth hurts now, you know. 1636 01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:32.000 Uh. 1637 01:31:32.920 --> 01:31:34.960 But other than that, like I would go to the 1638 01:31:35.039 --> 01:31:37.399 dentist or stuff like that, forget. It didn't even bother me, 1639 01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:39.159 not even a bit. 1640 01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:40.319 So. 1641 01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:43.239 But but this has a lot to do with certain 1642 01:31:43.359 --> 01:31:47.520 things in your ancestry, like be people saying with the 1643 01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:51.119 red hair, that's that's a lack of pigment. And again 1644 01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:53.800 there's certain uh, matter of fact, there's certain like psych 1645 01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:57.680 drugs that are common in America that are banned in 1646 01:31:58.159 --> 01:32:02.159 in many Asian countries, not because they're against the big 1647 01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:06.720 pharmaceutical companies, but because it's very easy for them to 1648 01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:10.880 oh D on these things. They're super sensitive to some 1649 01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:16.199 of the certain types of SSRIs and stuff, just as 1650 01:32:16.399 --> 01:32:23.439 a as a group, as an ethnic group. And I 1651 01:32:23.479 --> 01:32:25.399 don't know all the rules. I don't claim to know 1652 01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:27.960 all the rules. I just know that more than one 1653 01:32:28.760 --> 01:32:33.239 anesthesiologist has explained to me that it's true. But it's 1654 01:32:33.319 --> 01:32:34.920 like one of those you know, unless you're one of us, 1655 01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:37.920 we're not going to tell you about it. But they 1656 01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:40.640 you know, it's like, yeah, it's true though, that these 1657 01:32:40.720 --> 01:32:44.399 things come into play. I need to know, you know, basically, 1658 01:32:44.479 --> 01:32:47.600 the racial background of the individual coming in. And it's 1659 01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:50.520 not as simple as well Caucasian, black, other you know, 1660 01:32:50.920 --> 01:32:53.359 ain't gonna be that simple. But like you said, Native 1661 01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:57.159 Americans typically, not not all of them, but typically you 1662 01:32:57.279 --> 01:32:59.920 could find a good group of Native Americans the process 1663 01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:04.159 alcohol differently. There's a group of again, Irish people that 1664 01:33:04.680 --> 01:33:07.720 process alcohol differently. I know that sounds like I'm setting 1665 01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:10.760 up a joke, but it's true. There's a particular like 1666 01:33:10.920 --> 01:33:15.119 subgroup of Irish people that you know those news stories 1667 01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:18.960 you read about the guy ends up being blowing a 1668 01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:23.359 you know, the alcohol test on the side of the 1669 01:33:23.439 --> 01:33:28.520 road and it's like, oh, he's legally drunk, and it 1670 01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:31.800 turns out the guy drank no alcohol whatsoever. His body 1671 01:33:31.960 --> 01:33:37.119 literally turned something else that he ate into what tests 1672 01:33:37.159 --> 01:33:40.560 positive for alcohol. You've read those stories, right, Harlan. 1673 01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:44.399 I'm saying if you muss been a long time. 1674 01:33:44.239 --> 01:33:47.840 Ago, well, those are real things. Those aren't like urban legends. 1675 01:33:47.960 --> 01:33:50.840 It's that there's a certain subgroup and I think it's 1676 01:33:51.239 --> 01:33:55.479 Irish people, maybe some other kind of European person, but 1677 01:33:56.039 --> 01:33:59.039 there's a certain kind of European that. Yeah, you can 1678 01:33:59.119 --> 01:34:02.479 come up with this candition where you eat I don't know, 1679 01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:07.039 bananas or grapes and it turns into you might as 1680 01:34:07.079 --> 01:34:09.159 well drink wine because when you blow it back out 1681 01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:13.800 your breath says you drank wine. Your body literally a lot. 1682 01:34:13.760 --> 01:34:17.600 Of and. 1683 01:34:19.680 --> 01:34:23.560 You can eat it. But you wasn't saying that turned 1684 01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:26.199 your body processes and turns it into sugar. 1685 01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:30.399 Yeah, right, Like, well, pasta is a typical example right 1686 01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:34.479 where your your your body can turn pasta, which is 1687 01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:39.840 you know what flour and water mainly, Well that becomes sugar, right. 1688 01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:50.640 Corn? Sorry, corn, Yes, a lot of stuff that that's corn, okay, 1689 01:34:51.560 --> 01:34:55.680 will metabolize on the sugar. And that's the situation with 1690 01:34:55.800 --> 01:34:59.199 the Native Americans. A lot of cases is ever body 1691 01:34:59.279 --> 01:35:02.000 does it, it allows the alcohol. It's the same, right, 1692 01:35:02.199 --> 01:35:05.000 is you know one lot of other races too. 1693 01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:07.159 Yeah, but I'm telling you this is I. 1694 01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:11.239 Have it until they don't have alcohol, you know, until 1695 01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:16.560 the sixteen seventeen hundreds, you know, and you're fans prouted here, well, 1696 01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:17.279 but there you go. 1697 01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:20.119 It could be that in other places there was reasons 1698 01:35:20.199 --> 01:35:22.800 for these other and uh, you know, usually I like 1699 01:35:22.840 --> 01:35:24.840 to turn to BP for Asian stuff, but I know 1700 01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:29.600 that there are certain psychments that are banned in various 1701 01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:34.319 Asian countries BP because they have a significant portion of 1702 01:35:34.399 --> 01:35:38.560 the population which can very easily end up with toxic 1703 01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:43.159 doses because of their ethnic makeup. I don't know what 1704 01:35:43.319 --> 01:35:46.560 the specifics are on that exactly. I've heard a couple 1705 01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:48.359 of different stories about it, but I know it's a 1706 01:35:48.439 --> 01:35:51.920 real thing. And you know, it's not because they're against 1707 01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:56.039 the big pharmaceutical companies in whatever Asian country. It's because 1708 01:35:56.319 --> 01:35:59.520 it would be too dangerous to their population. 1709 01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:00.199 You know. 1710 01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:02.000 It's that simple, Yeah, and. 1711 01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:04.760 A combination of two things. 1712 01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:10.720 There was an instance where, well back in what twenty fourteen, 1713 01:36:11.720 --> 01:36:15.000 there was a K pop group who one of the 1714 01:36:15.359 --> 01:36:22.880 lead singers supposedly was busted for bringing adderall into the country, right, 1715 01:36:23.119 --> 01:36:28.560 and the Koreans treat adderall as myth because it has. 1716 01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:33.039 A derivative of the salts in the mixture. It's not 1717 01:36:33.319 --> 01:36:33.840 pure myth. 1718 01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:36.039 It's just got a little bit of myth in the 1719 01:36:36.119 --> 01:36:38.880 combination in the adderall. But it's against the law. This 1720 01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:41.800 person had a prescription when they lived in the States. 1721 01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:46.039 They went back to Korea to work. It ran out 1722 01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:49.239 of her prescription. Her family gets a prescription field and 1723 01:36:49.359 --> 01:36:51.720 it was through a university here in the United States. Anyway, 1724 01:36:52.119 --> 01:36:54.880 they mail it over, it gets caught it customs in Korea. 1725 01:36:55.439 --> 01:36:58.720 All male that's coming over on airlines goes through custom 1726 01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:02.560 search and they them packaged up with this other stuff, 1727 01:37:03.239 --> 01:37:06.760 and they went to arrest the individual or to conduct 1728 01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:10.000 an investigation, and it ended in a breakup and a 1729 01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:14.279 big legal battle. Fifteen years later, this group's finally getting 1730 01:37:14.319 --> 01:37:16.600 back together, just over the tarnish that was put on 1731 01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:17.399 this individual. 1732 01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:18.479 She had a prescription. 1733 01:37:18.880 --> 01:37:21.319 She brought it into the country, but Korea said, no, 1734 01:37:21.560 --> 01:37:25.800 it's illegal. You know, why was it she prosecuted, Well, 1735 01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:27.199 it was because she had a prescription. 1736 01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:28.960 It wasn't like she was you know. 1737 01:37:29.079 --> 01:37:32.600 They actually tracked her down and counted the pills to 1738 01:37:32.640 --> 01:37:35.279 see how many she had taken to see if it matched. 1739 01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:38.960 Her for what was prescribed. You discussed this, how far 1740 01:37:39.039 --> 01:37:39.800 they checked into it. 1741 01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:42.119 Right, You discussed this at length, the names of the 1742 01:37:42.159 --> 01:37:45.159 people involved in everything on a show maybe two years ago, 1743 01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:48.359 I think, And yeah, it's true. 1744 01:37:48.399 --> 01:37:51.960 It's that way over a lot of common common prescriptions 1745 01:37:52.039 --> 01:37:54.760 that you know is approved here. Well, and I was 1746 01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:58.079 in Germany they told us in the military you don't 1747 01:37:58.079 --> 01:38:01.319 get go treated by a civilian doctor. Why because they 1748 01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:04.520 may give you something that's legal here, but you're going 1749 01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:07.920 to pop a drug test and you're out of the service. 1750 01:38:08.279 --> 01:38:12.560 Yeah. Well, see, those are okay, those are geographical issues, right, 1751 01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:14.720 where something's legal in one place not legal another. But 1752 01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:17.439 what I'm saying is there is literally a reason for this, 1753 01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:21.239 where there are components in a lot of the psychmeds 1754 01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:26.159 out there that do that are partially meth amphetamine. Read 1755 01:38:26.239 --> 01:38:28.680 the chemical names. You'll see it looks kind of familiar 1756 01:38:29.640 --> 01:38:32.279 to the stuff that goes into making meth here in 1757 01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:36.079 the US. Okay, you'll see it. It's not even some 1758 01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:37.520 of the stuff is not even good enough that you 1759 01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:41.119 could mine it for those components to make meth. But 1760 01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:44.920 there are some components in these drugs that are the same, 1761 01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:48.239 the same. Okay, even in a very small amount whatever, 1762 01:38:48.359 --> 01:38:52.720 All right, But my point is that some of these 1763 01:38:52.800 --> 01:38:56.840 bands are not for philosophical reasons or because they're worried 1764 01:38:56.880 --> 01:38:59.960 that they're going to generate. It's because the overall popular 1765 01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:03.760 has a significant enough portion in it that this makes 1766 01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:07.399 it dangerous to them. You know, like there's certain foods 1767 01:39:07.479 --> 01:39:09.720 even in the US, that people can eat in the US, 1768 01:39:10.359 --> 01:39:13.479 and if somebody comes from overseas here eats them, goes home, 1769 01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:16.239 they're sick because they're not used to this stuff, this 1770 01:39:16.439 --> 01:39:19.359 garbage that we're eating, and vice versa. You go, you know, 1771 01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:22.720 the whole thing about oh, don't drink the water, But 1772 01:39:23.159 --> 01:39:26.600 that's it. You get conditioned over time, maybe geographically, but 1773 01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:28.520 in a lot of cases, like I said, with that 1774 01:39:28.560 --> 01:39:31.319 whole thing where you said somebody was a ginger, basically 1775 01:39:31.399 --> 01:39:34.279 they were redhead. And you know, I'm telling you there's 1776 01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:40.119 something about pigmentation and the cane pharmaceuticals, you know, cocaine, latycane, 1777 01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:46.720 all that novacane, cocaine, latacane, et cetera, that like, I 1778 01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:49.760 have a high resistance and it's because I have this, 1779 01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:53.960 you know, one part of my DNA has this albino problem. 1780 01:39:54.399 --> 01:39:56.119 So I have a lack of pigmentation. I don't know 1781 01:39:56.159 --> 01:39:58.680 how it connects exactly. Don't ask me to explain that, 1782 01:39:59.239 --> 01:40:03.359 but I do know that just light skin people that 1783 01:40:03.439 --> 01:40:09.079 are lacking pigment have issues with certain drug families, and 1784 01:40:09.239 --> 01:40:13.119 anesthesiologists need to know this because they can either kill 1785 01:40:13.239 --> 01:40:18.399 or underprescribe, or you know, fail to anesthetize somebody based 1786 01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:22.399 on some of these generalizations. I'm not saying it's the 1787 01:40:22.520 --> 01:40:24.760 primary thing that steers them, but it is a factor. 1788 01:40:24.920 --> 01:40:27.560 I know it for sure. And like I said, when 1789 01:40:27.600 --> 01:40:29.439 they gave me a shot in my back, they were 1790 01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:33.359 supposed to give me three times the normal recommended amount. 1791 01:40:34.279 --> 01:40:37.000 What they did is they gave me three times times 1792 01:40:37.039 --> 01:40:41.000 three the normal amount. And so basically they gave me 1793 01:40:41.079 --> 01:40:43.159 twenty seven doses of what they would have given to 1794 01:40:43.199 --> 01:40:47.199 somebody else won And yeah, the one nurse said that 1795 01:40:47.239 --> 01:40:50.520 would have killed two people normally. But to me, it 1796 01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:53.359 was like, well, my heart rate drop, let's monitor that 1797 01:40:53.439 --> 01:40:55.159 for a minute. And I got up and I was okay, 1798 01:40:56.239 --> 01:40:58.600 you know, I felt woozy for a minute, and it 1799 01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:00.880 was really trippy to me to wait id my blood 1800 01:41:01.159 --> 01:41:03.880 dripped off of the IV they had in my arm. 1801 01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:07.039 I thought that was really fascinating for a minute, so 1802 01:41:07.119 --> 01:41:09.159 I guess I was kind of high off of whatever 1803 01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:10.960 was going on in my brain there as my heart 1804 01:41:11.039 --> 01:41:15.159 was slowing down. But yeah, but that was it. I was, 1805 01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:21.479 you know, fine after that. Anyway, we got about sixteen 1806 01:41:21.520 --> 01:41:24.239 minutes left and we still got Harlan on the line. 1807 01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:25.760 I'm gonna put Harlan on hold. 1808 01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:28.319 Yeah, I catch you. 1809 01:41:28.439 --> 01:41:31.880 Got Oh sorry, Harlan, Yep, I'll definitely catch you soon. 1810 01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:34.520 I know you're out in the Texas Panhandle. I wish 1811 01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:37.520 you luck, safety and strength. Brother, So we probably won't 1812 01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:39.399 hear from you at the end of the show. Jimmy 1813 01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:42.319 James is still on the line. There's still time for 1814 01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:44.640 you if you're hearing us live at about quarter to 1815 01:41:44.760 --> 01:41:49.000 nine here Eastern time, quarter to no excuse me, quarter 1816 01:41:49.079 --> 01:41:53.239 to ten pm Eastern time, okay in the US here 1817 01:41:53.399 --> 01:41:58.039 on a Friday, the sixteenth of August. Okay, so we're 1818 01:41:58.079 --> 01:42:00.840 still live, and Aaron Franz is coming up at ten 1819 01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:04.640 pm Eastern with the Age of Transitions, followed by Uncle 1820 01:42:04.680 --> 01:42:07.960 at eleven pm Eastern. So with the last fifteen minutes 1821 01:42:08.039 --> 01:42:10.800 or so, B Pete, what do you got on your mind, 1822 01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:12.720 and if anybody else calls in and we'll get back 1823 01:42:12.720 --> 01:42:13.439 to Jimmy as well. 1824 01:42:15.399 --> 01:42:17.399 Well, I did want to cover this one story I 1825 01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:21.359 haven't come across to today, and this is a Fifth 1826 01:42:21.399 --> 01:42:25.439 Circuit Court of Appeals made a decision on what is 1827 01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:27.760 something that you know, we never really had to deal 1828 01:42:27.800 --> 01:42:31.079 with before, but with the age of technology that we're at, 1829 01:42:31.600 --> 01:42:33.319 and that's geo fence warrants. 1830 01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:37.119 I wasn't quite sure what these were, but yeah, I 1831 01:42:37.279 --> 01:42:38.119 was in the past. 1832 01:42:38.399 --> 01:42:40.760 I've remembered what these were when they were talking about 1833 01:42:41.119 --> 01:42:42.520 the January sixth riots. 1834 01:42:42.600 --> 01:42:45.079 Yeah, I have an idea what a geofence. I'm sorry, 1835 01:42:45.079 --> 01:42:47.520 I have an idea what a geofence warrant is, but 1836 01:42:47.800 --> 01:42:50.399 could you give us a really super fast recap of 1837 01:42:50.439 --> 01:42:50.800 what it is. 1838 01:42:52.239 --> 01:42:54.720 Yeah, And this story is carried by Reclaiming the Net 1839 01:42:54.800 --> 01:42:57.800 doctor Or, which is a good site if you want 1840 01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:03.079 to go to to read stories about the surveillance. 1841 01:43:02.520 --> 01:43:05.560 And what they're doing to the net. And these guys, 1842 01:43:05.720 --> 01:43:07.560 you know, they help people when they go to court. 1843 01:43:09.880 --> 01:43:11.119 Reclaim thee Or. 1844 01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:16.319 Well, here's the story is this is category and constitutional. 1845 01:43:16.399 --> 01:43:19.319 That's how the US Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has 1846 01:43:19.520 --> 01:43:23.000 ruled about the use of geofence warrants for part of 1847 01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:26.239 the Constitution, that this type of warrant that enables dragnet 1848 01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:29.720 style mass surveillance violates the Fourth Amendment. The court found 1849 01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:33.800 this amendment is meant to protect citizens from reasonable searches 1850 01:43:33.920 --> 01:43:37.359 or seizures, but said the Court of Appeals, what geofence 1851 01:43:37.479 --> 01:43:42.239 warrants do is allow for the opposite, general exploratory rummaging. 1852 01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:47.239 This is geofencing works by essentially treating everyone who happens 1853 01:43:47.279 --> 01:43:50.399 to be in a geographic area during a given time 1854 01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:54.960 as a suspect until established otherwise. And this is how 1855 01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:57.439 it's put into use. You had the riots going on 1856 01:43:57.640 --> 01:44:03.439 up there at DC. The Feds went to Google and 1857 01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:07.439 to these phone companies, and they wanted this metadata that 1858 01:44:07.640 --> 01:44:10.199 you've heard people talk about for years now that get stored. 1859 01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:13.600 Oh we're not you know, we're not recording specific stuff. 1860 01:44:13.640 --> 01:44:15.640 It's just the metadata that way they want. 1861 01:44:16.119 --> 01:44:16.640 Here's why. 1862 01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:19.479 What they do is they go and they pull up 1863 01:44:19.520 --> 01:44:23.000 the data from these phone companies or from Google, and 1864 01:44:23.199 --> 01:44:26.880 it's all through your cell phone. These things are tracking 1865 01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:30.119 you everywhere you go unless you take certain precautions to 1866 01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:33.079 cut certain things off or leave your phone at home, 1867 01:44:34.199 --> 01:44:36.439 even when they're off a lot of these things will 1868 01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:39.039 record data. So what they do is they look at 1869 01:44:39.079 --> 01:44:42.359 a specific area, They look at the phone data, and 1870 01:44:42.439 --> 01:44:45.520 they get all of the phone numbers that are associated 1871 01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:48.760 with either web traffic or you know, a lot of 1872 01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:52.079 these apps like Facebook, you have a check in part 1873 01:44:52.199 --> 01:44:54.880 of that app that if you're in a certain place, 1874 01:44:55.359 --> 01:44:58.359 you can say I just checked into the residency in 1875 01:44:59.279 --> 01:45:00.800 in Bogatah. 1876 01:45:01.039 --> 01:45:03.479 Yeah, you voluntarily say hey, I was just at this 1877 01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:06.479 ice cream shop and boom, yeah, okay exactly. 1878 01:45:07.039 --> 01:45:08.600 So what they do is they start looking at this 1879 01:45:08.840 --> 01:45:12.159 data and then they start reading out they may have 1880 01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:16.239 two hundred numbers. They start going through the two hundred 1881 01:45:16.520 --> 01:45:18.760 and they start checking, Okay, what were you doing there? 1882 01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:21.039 Where else did they go? What else did they do? 1883 01:45:21.640 --> 01:45:24.880 Did they make any purchases? Did they do anything that 1884 01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:29.920 could be considered nefarious or court found that that's too 1885 01:45:30.119 --> 01:45:33.720 broad of a spectrum to just be able to mass 1886 01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:42.199 surveil a certain area. It's and here the Electronic Frontier Foundation, 1887 01:45:42.920 --> 01:45:45.720 a digital rights group, an outspoken critic that often gets 1888 01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:49.039 involved in these legal cases. They argued against this method 1889 01:45:49.119 --> 01:45:52.680 of investigation and they welcome the court's decision noting that 1890 01:45:52.720 --> 01:45:55.399 people should not have to fear having their phone with 1891 01:45:55.479 --> 01:45:58.279 them in public because that could turn them into a 1892 01:45:58.359 --> 01:45:59.279 criminal suspect. 1893 01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:03.359 And here's the deal their stance on geofence warrans. 1894 01:46:03.439 --> 01:46:06.319 Camess has deliberated a specific case in the United States 1895 01:46:06.399 --> 01:46:10.039 versus Smith, and this is revolving around the police in 1896 01:46:10.119 --> 01:46:14.239 Mississippi in twenty eighteen resorting to obtaining this type of 1897 01:46:14.319 --> 01:46:17.359 warrant to investigate an armed robbery and assault that took 1898 01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:20.680 place in a post office. Google, which is who law 1899 01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:23.560 enforcement agents turned to with these warrants, most of the 1900 01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:27.720 time obliged turning over data from phones to the police, 1901 01:46:28.039 --> 01:46:31.000 who then managed to produce two suspects and later they 1902 01:46:31.159 --> 01:46:34.079 charged these two suspects, says. But even though it was 1903 01:46:34.159 --> 01:46:36.560 decided not to suppress the evidence because it found the 1904 01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:40.760 police were acting in good faith while geofencing was still 1905 01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:44.600 a new phenomenon, the Fifth Circuit Court doesn't think it's 1906 01:46:44.720 --> 01:46:49.439 even lawful in any way. So one of the problems 1907 01:46:49.479 --> 01:46:51.520 side of I judge is that the police access the 1908 01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:55.880 sensitive location data collected during the process of geofencing is 1909 01:46:56.039 --> 01:46:59.800 highly invasive since it can reveal a lot about a person, 1910 01:47:00.319 --> 01:47:04.119 including their associations and also lets the police follow them 1911 01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:11.119 into private spaces, meaning spaces either on the web or 1912 01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:14.960 private spaces as a particular location. You were at this 1913 01:47:15.199 --> 01:47:18.520 person's house, so therefore now we can go and dig 1914 01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:23.560 into that person. It creates this huge net that doesn't 1915 01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:27.960 mean any of the criteria for normal warrants, and you know, 1916 01:47:29.159 --> 01:47:32.399 these warrants never specify a particular You have to have 1917 01:47:32.560 --> 01:47:35.600 probable cause in most cases to get a warrant to 1918 01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:37.039 go in look at somebody's data. 1919 01:47:37.880 --> 01:47:40.159 In this case, there's no probable cause. 1920 01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:43.680 It's simply being in a certain location at a certain time, 1921 01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:47.079 and they're saying that that's not sufficient enough to be 1922 01:47:47.159 --> 01:47:50.399 able to open up a phisient expedition. We'll be able 1923 01:47:50.439 --> 01:47:52.520 to look at all of these cases where they have 1924 01:47:53.319 --> 01:47:58.880 used this to January sixth riots, the BLM ryots, the 1925 01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:02.880 pipe bomb scandal that's going on about January sixth, they 1926 01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:08.680 tried to use geo fencing. Let's say people investigating that 1927 01:48:08.800 --> 01:48:12.239 from the outside have tried to get the information of 1928 01:48:12.439 --> 01:48:16.319 phone data, which is available for Google and varieton if 1929 01:48:16.359 --> 01:48:17.880 you want to pay for it or you have means 1930 01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:22.279 of getting it. Suddenly that information was corrupted so you've 1931 01:48:22.279 --> 01:48:24.640 got all these January six cases where people are now 1932 01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:28.600 going to be filing appeals based on them using geo 1933 01:48:28.720 --> 01:48:32.279 fencing to put Grandma Smith in the lobby of the 1934 01:48:32.359 --> 01:48:35.800 capital at two o'clock when she shouldn't have been there, 1935 01:48:35.960 --> 01:48:38.319 and then they go arrest for six months later she 1936 01:48:38.439 --> 01:48:40.319 ends up paying one hundred and three thousand dollars in 1937 01:48:40.439 --> 01:48:44.600 fines for simply praying in the rotunda the Capitol and leading. 1938 01:48:45.439 --> 01:48:48.399 I mean, that's what they're using this information for. 1939 01:48:49.119 --> 01:48:51.720 Now you talk about them, I guess this would be 1940 01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:55.239 a big attack on Big Brother and the government's ability 1941 01:48:55.319 --> 01:48:58.039 to go and use this information. Maybe we're starting to 1942 01:48:58.079 --> 01:49:00.399 see things turned back towards private pection. 1943 01:49:00.640 --> 01:49:03.520 Yeah you wish from this, Yeah, you wish it. Look, 1944 01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:07.479 because it's so expansive, it's not going to go there. Look, 1945 01:49:07.840 --> 01:49:10.000 you can't get out of this this mess right now, 1946 01:49:10.159 --> 01:49:12.199 not with something like this. It's not going to do it. 1947 01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:17.039 The problem is it goes well beyond okay, normal world, 1948 01:49:17.159 --> 01:49:20.560 forget about the digital and electronic normal world. Right you 1949 01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:23.920 need probable cause, yes, and everybody gets stuck on the 1950 01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:26.840 probable cause issue. Okay, go past it. Imagine that that's 1951 01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:30.079 all good, and you got probable cause to request that warrant. 1952 01:49:30.600 --> 01:49:33.880 When you request a warrant, though, generally speaking, as far 1953 01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:36.319 as I have always understood it, you have to be 1954 01:49:36.399 --> 01:49:41.720 after a specific thing. So speciificity in what it is 1955 01:49:41.840 --> 01:49:45.119 you're searching for is the other element. Nobody bothers to 1956 01:49:45.199 --> 01:49:49.079 mention here. Okay, and that's the thing. Okay, I want 1957 01:49:49.119 --> 01:49:52.159 to go search Bpeat's house. Okay, fine, you have a 1958 01:49:52.199 --> 01:49:55.039 specific place. I have a probable cause to believe that 1959 01:49:55.119 --> 01:49:58.960 Bpet's house has stuff in it from a criminal activity. Okay, fine, 1960 01:49:59.119 --> 01:50:01.800 what stuff do you want? Hunt? I can't go in 1961 01:50:01.880 --> 01:50:03.600 there and say, well, look, i'm gonna take his computer 1962 01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:08.319 because I'm thinking maybe his computer's got some stuff on it. No, 1963 01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:11.119 I have to say, look, the computer would have data 1964 01:50:11.239 --> 01:50:14.199 because he used the computer. I would have to say 1965 01:50:14.199 --> 01:50:16.560 I'm looking for a weapon. Because a weapon was used. 1966 01:50:17.239 --> 01:50:19.039 I would have to say what kind of weapon it is? 1967 01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:20.920 Not just do I find a slingshot or a gun 1968 01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:23.319 or a knife. No, I have to find something that 1969 01:50:23.479 --> 01:50:26.640 was involved in this crime, which means I need something 1970 01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:30.119 that does this. I can't just say well, I want 1971 01:50:30.199 --> 01:50:33.399 his computers and I want to find out if he's 1972 01:50:33.439 --> 01:50:36.359 got other stuff. In there, like, did he record anything 1973 01:50:36.399 --> 01:50:38.239 of himself? So I'm going to look at all of 1974 01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:41.640 his tapes. You know, he's got old school cassette tapes 1975 01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:43.600 in that house. He still uses them. Don't know how 1976 01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:45.239 he does it, but he does. So you know what, 1977 01:50:45.399 --> 01:50:48.079 I want all of his cassette tapes. I can't do 1978 01:50:48.279 --> 01:50:50.680 that because I don't have a cost. 1979 01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:53.720 It would be like it would be like the cops saying, 1980 01:50:54.760 --> 01:50:57.920 we have suspected criminal activity going on in this apartment 1981 01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:01.920 complex at this apartment, but what we want is a 1982 01:51:02.039 --> 01:51:05.439 warrant to be able to lock down and search the 1983 01:51:05.800 --> 01:51:09.119 entire ten story, ten apartment. 1984 01:51:08.760 --> 01:51:09.640 Per floor. 1985 01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:11.239 Building. 1986 01:51:11.600 --> 01:51:14.800 So we're basically looking to go into one hundred apartments 1987 01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:19.600 to search because individuals in this complex know each other 1988 01:51:20.239 --> 01:51:24.319 and therefore they could be moving materials or money or 1989 01:51:24.560 --> 01:51:28.039 data that they shouldn't have, So we need to check 1990 01:51:28.079 --> 01:51:28.920 the whole place out. 1991 01:51:29.399 --> 01:51:32.119 And no lawyer, I mean no judge is going to say, Okay, 1992 01:51:32.439 --> 01:51:33.000 I'm giving you. 1993 01:51:33.039 --> 01:51:35.279 Free reign to lock down a building and search every 1994 01:51:35.960 --> 01:51:37.199 apartment in that building. 1995 01:51:37.880 --> 01:51:40.079 And this is even on a grander scale. 1996 01:51:40.159 --> 01:51:42.840 You're talking about thousands of people that were in Washington 1997 01:51:43.199 --> 01:51:45.880 when this went on. It become that little bit of 1998 01:51:45.960 --> 01:51:48.800 info of knowing that you were standing at this corner 1999 01:51:48.880 --> 01:51:52.000 at one o'clock. They can follow you everywhere you go 2000 01:51:52.199 --> 01:51:55.560 from then on. How once they're aware of your number, 2001 01:51:56.720 --> 01:51:59.159 you're sunk. And they're doing it now. 2002 01:51:59.319 --> 01:52:02.159 That's why they're why they're sweeping up all the data 2003 01:52:02.239 --> 01:52:02.760 that they can. 2004 01:52:03.079 --> 01:52:06.359 But they've been doing this message, right, But they've been 2005 01:52:06.439 --> 01:52:08.319 doing this, and they've been saying it's because look, we 2006 01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:10.520 had access to the data. They granted it to us, 2007 01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:13.000 and we have the you know, communication acts here for 2008 01:52:13.079 --> 01:52:15.600 this and this and this, which allow us access to 2009 01:52:15.680 --> 01:52:17.920 it all. Okay, it allows you access, but it doesn't 2010 01:52:17.960 --> 01:52:20.800 mean you have specific access to everything. And here's the 2011 01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:23.640 other deal. You and I go to Dallas, right, and 2012 01:52:23.760 --> 01:52:27.359 we're at the you know, we're at the conference in Dallas. 2013 01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:30.359 We are now around people from all over the country 2014 01:52:30.439 --> 01:52:33.000 and in fact, all over the world. We are in 2015 01:52:33.079 --> 01:52:35.560 the presence now of people that came over from the UK. 2016 01:52:36.159 --> 01:52:39.640 We're there. This other guy came from Canada. Uh, you know, 2017 01:52:40.119 --> 01:52:42.960 some people came from you know, two blocks away in Texas. Okay. 2018 01:52:43.359 --> 01:52:47.560 So now, because they decided to track you know, one 2019 01:52:47.600 --> 01:52:51.520 guy from Oklahoma, he was now in proximity to all 2020 01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:54.039 of us. So does that mean that they have the 2021 01:52:54.119 --> 01:52:57.520 ability to track anybody who came in contact with him, Well, yep, 2022 01:52:57.720 --> 01:53:01.359 it does. If you use this, everybody was at that 2023 01:53:01.479 --> 01:53:05.640 conference is now eligible to be searched. Pretty much. When 2024 01:53:06.039 --> 01:53:08.000 you know, a guy might have robbed a gas station 2025 01:53:08.119 --> 01:53:10.720 in Oklahoma six months ago and then decided to go 2026 01:53:10.800 --> 01:53:13.279 to the JFK conference. It's got nothing to do with 2027 01:53:13.359 --> 01:53:13.720 you and me. 2028 01:53:14.600 --> 01:53:16.520 Zero no. I mean. 2029 01:53:16.680 --> 01:53:19.560 Another instance was that let's say we had who was 2030 01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:21.560 the guy that came over from the UK to speak. 2031 01:53:21.640 --> 01:53:24.279 Okay, let's say he and I were talking Johnny Cars and. 2032 01:53:24.520 --> 01:53:25.600 The guy who had tattoos. 2033 01:53:25.720 --> 01:53:30.039 Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, let's just say, hey, I'll contact 2034 01:53:30.119 --> 01:53:33.079 you later. Text me your email address. Yep, so I 2035 01:53:33.199 --> 01:53:37.359 text him my email address. Okay, everything's fine. Let's say, 2036 01:53:38.399 --> 01:53:42.760 either in the future or back six months ago, this 2037 01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:46.760 guy was under surveillance in a faisal warrant because he's 2038 01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:49.920 a foreigner. Now all of a sudden they see, oh 2039 01:53:50.079 --> 01:53:52.720 wait a minute, he's trading data with this phone number. 2040 01:53:53.399 --> 01:53:56.079 Let's look at that phone number and see where it's 2041 01:53:56.159 --> 01:53:59.239 going and who it's in contact with, and so that 2042 01:53:59.479 --> 01:54:00.239 one little. 2043 01:54:00.319 --> 01:54:01.680 Thing can open the door. 2044 01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:07.880 Even though the FISA, the FISA warrants are not supposed 2045 01:54:07.920 --> 01:54:15.520 to allow our CIA to spy on domestic citizens, it 2046 01:54:15.680 --> 01:54:18.640 still gives them that avenue to get to my data, 2047 01:54:18.760 --> 01:54:22.359 and from my data behind the scenes, they can track 2048 01:54:23.239 --> 01:54:25.640 the thousands of people. I mean, if they got a 2049 01:54:25.680 --> 01:54:30.439 hold of my contact list from people through the work 2050 01:54:30.520 --> 01:54:30.760 I do. 2051 01:54:31.079 --> 01:54:35.199 I probably have two hundred phone numbers that. 2052 01:54:35.359 --> 01:54:37.760 I may have texted with or called in the past 2053 01:54:37.880 --> 01:54:41.159 four years, just from different contractors working. 2054 01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:44.600 On my job. So suddenly you can have one number. 2055 01:54:46.159 --> 01:54:50.560 Blossom into thousands of numbers depending on how the person 2056 01:54:50.720 --> 01:54:53.800 uses their phone, and you just opened up that can 2057 01:54:53.920 --> 01:54:55.560 of worms for them to go and look at everything. 2058 01:54:56.479 --> 01:54:58.880 Amazing the reach of something like this, right, my old 2059 01:54:58.960 --> 01:55:01.800 defunct email addres had over six hundred addresses in it 2060 01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:05.000 that were acquired from nineteen ninety six to twenty sixteen. 2061 01:55:05.920 --> 01:55:09.199 So you know, what are you gonna do if you 2062 01:55:09.319 --> 01:55:12.439 got data exchanged with that old email address, which was 2063 01:55:12.520 --> 01:55:16.039 the Lycos address I had at Boom. It's messed up. 2064 01:55:16.159 --> 01:55:18.680 There's so many people connected to it anyway, really fast. 2065 01:55:18.720 --> 01:55:21.520 I'm gonna give Jimmy James the final word on tonight's show, 2066 01:55:21.840 --> 01:55:23.920 But I just wanted to take sixty seconds to throw 2067 01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:26.920 this one at you. I was brought up as a 2068 01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:29.520 person of interest and possibly could have been called to 2069 01:55:29.640 --> 01:55:35.479 testify in the Malfour Bird Sanctuary incident right years ago 2070 01:55:35.640 --> 01:55:38.720 because I was in contact on Facebook with a guy 2071 01:55:38.840 --> 01:55:41.560 trying to get an interview. And it turned out that 2072 01:55:41.640 --> 01:55:43.479 I was in contact first with the guy who ended 2073 01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:49.119 up getting shot, you know, Malvoy, that guy Mac whatever 2074 01:55:49.159 --> 01:55:51.039 his name was there, the guy they called the cowboy, 2075 01:55:51.159 --> 01:55:56.880 the guy, the tart man anyway, Leevoy, Finnckham okay, anyway, 2076 01:55:56.960 --> 01:55:59.880 whatever his name was. The point is I was in 2077 01:56:00.119 --> 01:56:04.880 contact with him and with James what do you call it, 2078 01:56:04.920 --> 01:56:09.439 Patrick Okay. And so because I was there and in 2079 01:56:09.560 --> 01:56:13.760 contact with them, they had my number, had my Facebook account, 2080 01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:16.560 and had all this stuff, and I was entered into 2081 01:56:16.560 --> 01:56:20.239 evidence as a possible person of interest eligible to be 2082 01:56:20.319 --> 01:56:24.560 called to testify. I was trying to conduct a radio interview, 2083 01:56:26.199 --> 01:56:29.680 you know, very simple they could have, you know, and 2084 01:56:29.760 --> 01:56:33.920 that's I assume somebody figured that out finally, but initially, yeah, 2085 01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:36.920 there was notices and everything. Anyways, It's just one of 2086 01:56:36.960 --> 01:56:38.600 those things that happens. And I had nothing to do 2087 01:56:38.680 --> 01:56:40.439 with that bird sanctuary. The only thing I did is 2088 01:56:40.479 --> 01:56:41.760 try and tell them, guys, I don't think it's a 2089 01:56:41.760 --> 01:56:44.840 good idea and you need more media coverage there, which 2090 01:56:44.880 --> 01:56:48.439 I had said publicly already, But they chose to go 2091 01:56:48.560 --> 01:56:50.720 with the one guy who you know, wound up giving 2092 01:56:50.760 --> 01:56:54.279 them all kinds of evidence and somehow got off on 2093 01:56:54.399 --> 01:56:57.640 a I'm part of the media anyhow. That's a whole 2094 01:56:57.680 --> 01:56:58.199 other story. 2095 01:56:58.319 --> 01:56:58.520 Yeah. 2096 01:56:58.800 --> 01:57:01.439 I never understood he got off on that part. 2097 01:57:01.680 --> 01:57:04.399 Yeah, because he shouldn't have. He was participating in the event, 2098 01:57:04.479 --> 01:57:06.880 he wasn't just covering it. If you were there with 2099 01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:10.199 a camera and you know, passively, just then I would 2100 01:57:10.239 --> 01:57:12.319 say you deserve protection that you're part of the media. 2101 01:57:12.760 --> 01:57:15.760 You're covering it, even if you're all media whatever. Uh 2102 01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:18.079 you know you wrote press on the back of your 2103 01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:22.279 of your jacket. I get it. But once you start 2104 01:57:22.359 --> 01:57:27.319 participating in those events, you're no longer the objective bystander. 2105 01:57:28.159 --> 01:57:30.359 So anyways, I say we give the final word to 2106 01:57:30.439 --> 01:57:33.000 Jimmy James because we're actually all out of time and 2107 01:57:33.359 --> 01:57:37.600 I want to give aaron to Mike next. So Jimmy, uh, 2108 01:57:38.039 --> 01:57:40.880 your final shout out for the week. It's all on you. 2109 01:57:41.239 --> 01:57:43.840 Go ahead, You'll get the final word on this Friday 2110 01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:45.319 Night O'Kelly effect open mic. 2111 01:57:46.920 --> 01:57:47.800 All at a rip. 2112 01:57:50.199 --> 01:58:00.399 David, there was Jamon Tal spanked Jamonts what I mean? 2113 01:58:01.119 --> 01:58:04.239 He worked at Fellows with solo and he was dealing 2114 01:58:04.399 --> 01:58:07.760 with Jack RUPI this is the Dallas and no look up. 2115 01:58:07.880 --> 01:58:09.039 Some pick you and I have a bat. 2116 01:58:11.079 --> 01:58:13.800 Absolutely you too, Jimmy James, and a shout out to 2117 01:58:13.880 --> 01:58:17.000 you for being a supporter caller. All that shout out 2118 01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:19.279 to Harlan as well and all of you for listening. 2119 01:58:19.399 --> 01:58:22.479 B Pete, I thank you for co hosting yet another 2120 01:58:22.560 --> 01:58:25.159 week of this and I'll just give it to him. 2121 01:58:25.279 --> 01:58:26.800 Support your local food banks.