1 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:19,839 --> 00:00:23,879 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittles, senior Elections correspondent at The Federalist, 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,239 and your experienced Shirpa on today's Quest for Knowledge. As always, 4 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,839 you can email the show at radio at the Federalist 5 00:00:31,879 --> 00:00:36,520 dot com, follow us on x at FDRLST, make sure 6 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,280 to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and of course 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,439 to the premium version of our website as well. My 8 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,640 guest today is US Senator Ron Johnson, Republican, representing the 9 00:00:47,719 --> 00:00:53,560 great and electorally powerful state of Wisconsin. Thank you, sir 10 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,679 for being here and joining us on this edition of 11 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,119 the Federalist Radio Hour. 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: Well, Matt, thanks for having me on. 13 00:00:59,399 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: We've got much to talk about. You've been extremely busy. 14 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,079 I can know, and I can speak for that having 15 00:01:06,239 --> 00:01:12,200 covered you in Wisconsin since your election first in twenty ten. 16 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,840 You're in the middle of your third term and there 17 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,439 is no rest for the weary, is there not? 18 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: Really not? When our country is in the amount of 19 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,000 peril it is in. We need everybody that has their 20 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,519 eyes open, that understand what the radical left is doing 21 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:32,040 in this country to engage in the fight. And it 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,200 is a fight. It's a fight for our survivals in nation. 23 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,719 Speaker 1: Indeed, I wanted to talk to you and we'll delve 24 00:01:37,799 --> 00:01:42,719 into Wisconsin's significant role in the twenty twenty four election, 25 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,599 just as it played a significant role in twenty twenty 26 00:01:46,599 --> 00:01:50,319 in twenty sixteen as a swing statement. Before we do that, 27 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,239 I wanted to get the latest information. You have been, 28 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,879 along with many colleagues, but you in particular, have been 29 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:06,719 investigating the assassination attempt former President Donald Trump, the GOP's 30 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,960 presidential candidate, in the incident, of course, occurring in Butler, Pennsylvania, 31 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:19,960 July thirteenth. First and foremost, are you as I don't 32 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,360 know exactly what the word is. It's not disappointed, because 33 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,400 we know motives and means here. But are you as 34 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,479 Are you surprised as I am that the accomplice media 35 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:36,639 in this country has so memory hold this horrifying incident 36 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:40,960 that occurred before our very eyes, right before the Republican 37 00:02:41,039 --> 00:02:41,879 National Convention. 38 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:46,039 Speaker 2: Well, it's shocking, but it's not surprising at all, just 39 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,400 like it's not surprising that they put her on a pedestal, 40 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,919 proclaimed to're really the second Coming and will do everything 41 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,560 they can do make sure that President Trump's defeated has correct. 42 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,120 I mean it doesn't surprising the slightest. 43 00:03:00,439 --> 00:03:04,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean it is interesting though, to note, 44 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,879 I know that you are talking to constituents all the time. 45 00:03:10,319 --> 00:03:13,960 What are they telling you about where things stand in 46 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,080 America post assassination attempt? 47 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: Well, as I've said repeatedly, if you were to design 48 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:29,840 investigation that was specifically wanted to create suspicion and drive 49 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:33,479 conspiracy theories, you'd go about it exactly the way the FBI, 50 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:38,039 Secret Service, Department Justice are going about this, almost completely opaque. 51 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,240 The only time they provide any information is when there's 52 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,879 a ramping up of public pressure. Yeah. I think our 53 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:50,000 congressional investigation will end up being an investigation of the investigation. 54 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:54,719 It was my staff. Again, what's unusual of my staff 55 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,080 is I'm the ranking member on the permanent subcoming investigation. 56 00:03:59,319 --> 00:04:02,479 This should be the premier investigatory body, the Senate. But 57 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:05,439 you can tell the Senus not particularly serious about investigations. 58 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,680 I have five staff members. That's the budget they give me. 59 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,879 I've got five staff members, but their experience so Almost 60 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:17,480 immediately after the assassination attempt on July thirteenth, my investigators 61 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:20,040 started contacting the local law enforcement, and I would say 62 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:22,680 to this day, what we know about what happened in 63 00:04:22,759 --> 00:04:26,360 January thirteenth is or July thirteenth is coming primarily from 64 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:30,959 local law enforcement videos, audios, ewins, accounts from rally goers, 65 00:04:31,399 --> 00:04:36,560 not from the FEDS. So I mean that's why we 66 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,160 have those very early conversations, and I issued my preliminary findings. 67 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,279 I think within a week where we laid out an 68 00:04:43,319 --> 00:04:46,680 initial timeline, we continue to update that. That's, by the way, 69 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,800 that's the way you do investigations. You do a timeline 70 00:04:50,079 --> 00:04:53,000 and you keep filling in the blanks. You can be 71 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,199 looking for information, and you know that as investative reporting. 72 00:04:56,199 --> 00:04:59,959 I mean, it's unbelievably revealing. So anyway, so we provide 73 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,519 that timeline, we continue to update it for the public 74 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,360 and really trying to solicit more information. So if somebody 75 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,519 knows something and they looking at my timeline, oh they're 76 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,120 missing this piece, they can call into our office. So 77 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,800 that's how we're going about doing this. But I mean, 78 00:05:13,959 --> 00:05:17,920 the FEDS aren't really providing us anything. FBI is interviewed 79 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,680 over one thousand individuals in a hearing a couple of 80 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,360 weeks after the assassination attempt. I asked Deputy Director of 81 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:29,160 the FBI Abate, Now, we want your the transcriptions of 82 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:31,399 those interviews, you know, the three oh two's, And he 83 00:05:31,439 --> 00:05:32,759 said he's going to check on it and get them 84 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:36,240 to us soon. But we have not got one three 85 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,600 oh two yet. We've not got one of their transcriptions. 86 00:05:38,759 --> 00:05:42,079 We've been able to interview less than twelve people, and 87 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,360 of course Acting Director Roe said that those interviews will 88 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:48,279 start within days, that weeks a little bit more than 89 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,879 a week. But it's not exactly like we're getting just 90 00:05:52,399 --> 00:05:55,720 a flood of people to interview. Plus they're they're withholding 91 00:05:55,759 --> 00:06:00,160 documents when when they give us documents, for example, is 92 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:04,240 pertaining to a particular person we're interviewing, but we'll get 93 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:10,040 him sometimes just minutes before the interview and with heavy reactions, 94 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,920 so you can't make an effective use of the documentation. 95 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:15,800 So this is exactly, by the way, this isn't my 96 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,560 spurs rodeo with the FEDS on this. Sure, this is 97 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:23,720 exactly how they fin cooperation. They spoon feed you just 98 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,040 enough to keep the subpoenas at Bay out. Again, if 99 00:06:27,079 --> 00:06:31,279 I were chairman, I'd be issuance penis. But Democrats generally 100 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:37,439 are not real fond of investigating government and so you know, 101 00:06:37,519 --> 00:06:42,480 Gary Peters and Ruchard Blumenfeld, they're not issurance penis there Again, 102 00:06:42,519 --> 00:06:44,519 we have been in session. We'll be back in next week. 103 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,439 I hope to have a meeting and put more pressure 104 00:06:47,959 --> 00:06:50,319 on the process because the American people have right to 105 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:51,279 know these things. 106 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, they most certainly do. And I guess from what 107 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,199 you have found out as you continue to fill in 108 00:06:57,199 --> 00:07:01,160 the timeline and fact you just updated that most recently 109 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:05,160 within the last few days. But as you hear more 110 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,120 and more from these US Secret Service officials, the acting 111 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,920 director of course, the folks and the FBI who are 112 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:19,120 supposed to be engaged and involved in a real investigation 113 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,720 into finding out what happened, we know that this was 114 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:27,319 an abject failure of mission. That we don't need an 115 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,720 investigation to find out that we need to know why, 116 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:35,519 how this all happened. Are you are you feeling more 117 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,279 and more that these government officials, these Biden administration officials 118 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:42,759 are lying to you, then it's. 119 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,759 Speaker 2: Not giving us the information. So finally, what six or 120 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:49,079 seven weeks after the fassination attempt, they put five individuals 121 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,240 I administrative leave. What exactly does that mean? Yeah, i've 122 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:55,240 been for still getting paid. I mean, are they still 123 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,959 in the opposite We really don't know. We don't know 124 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,839 exactly which ones or what the reason a rationale were. Again, 125 00:08:01,959 --> 00:08:05,920 the people they are offering us for interviews, I mean, 126 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,079 I can't say we're finding that they're lying to it, 127 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,519 so they just don't have much information. Again, from from 128 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,639 my standpoint, the number one person I wanted to interview 129 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,000 was the sniper who took out crooks, because again there 130 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,519 were there were conspiracies floating around that the sniper had 131 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,439 friction and sites for a minute or two and asked 132 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,040 for permission to take them out and permission was denied. 133 00:08:27,079 --> 00:08:31,680 Now the City Services com completely denied that. I think 134 00:08:31,759 --> 00:08:34,799 other people that we have talked to that does not 135 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,039 sound plausible. But I'd like to I'd like to talk 136 00:08:38,039 --> 00:08:42,080 to the sniper. You know, again, our timeline generally timelines 137 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,799 are in days, right, I mean this timeline is in 138 00:08:44,919 --> 00:08:48,559 minutes and then in two seconds around the shooting, and 139 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,080 I mean the snipers had a lot of time to 140 00:08:53,159 --> 00:08:56,960 be looking at the AGR building and try and find 141 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,200 some of these sites, and we know from the video 142 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,639 from the individual who got shot twice. I mean, talk 143 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:07,000 about you know, coincidence. This guy's shooting a video, then 144 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,080 he gets shot twice. But his is a really interesting 145 00:09:10,159 --> 00:09:13,440 video because three minutes before the first shots were fired 146 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,080 at six oh eight, we see crooks running across the 147 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,679 top of that building, kind of step going up and 148 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,440 down in the right right hand part of the screen, 149 00:09:23,919 --> 00:09:26,240 so you can see it from the ground. I mean, 150 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,279 if you're a sniper team, you've got a picture of 151 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,720 crooks sent to you. I think I think twenty six 152 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,559 minutes before the actual shooting. You know, we have confirmed 153 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,559 that the Secret Service lead sniper knew about that and 154 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,279 the individual suspicious individuals around the AGI building. I mean, 155 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,480 you would think you just have your sights on the 156 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,279 AGI building. And again we were not talking to sniper. 157 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: I'm not the only person asking this question. And that's 158 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,399 what you talked about at the out set of our 159 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:06,480 conversation that if you wanted to create a storm of 160 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,360 conspiracy theories, you couldn't ask for a better way to 161 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,759 do that than the failure of the Secret Service in 162 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,679 federal agencies involved to provide the public with the information 163 00:10:18,799 --> 00:10:22,240 that it truly needs. So here's the question. As you 164 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,759 go about investigating this, do you have any concerns that 165 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,799 this wasn't just a twenty one year old twenty however, 166 00:10:29,799 --> 00:10:34,360 a twenty two year old kid who wanted to for 167 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,600 whatever reason shoot the former president of the United States 168 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,759 killed the former president of the United States. You believe 169 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:43,960 this is an inside job. 170 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:51,399 Speaker 2: Well, again, a rank amateur probably you know, a kid 171 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,960 if you were to take him to that stage and said, okay, 172 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,399 now you're in charge security. Yeah, we want to make 173 00:10:57,399 --> 00:11:01,120 sure that nobody could shoot the president this vantage point 174 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,879 where what we have covered, you know what would we 175 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,679 secure and a kid would make sure that the AGI 176 00:11:08,799 --> 00:11:11,200 roof was secured, right, so you have that. I mean 177 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,840 it again. So the failure was so it was such 178 00:11:15,879 --> 00:11:19,879 a spectacular failure that you kind of scratch your head 179 00:11:19,919 --> 00:11:21,960 and go, how could that possibly happen? Here? We are, 180 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,200 what seven or eight weeks past the assassination attempt, and 181 00:11:25,799 --> 00:11:27,919 we still knew who called the shots. We have been 182 00:11:27,919 --> 00:11:29,720 able to talk to the people who made decisions on 183 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,600 the perimeter and security. You know, we don't have an 184 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,679 answer for why the CE Service did in'tuw up to 185 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,279 the nine o'clock security briefing. We just you know, why 186 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,519 did you turn down the local radios that were offered 187 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,000 to you. Why did you release the body for cremation 188 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:47,159 before you made public the autopsy and tox College reports? 189 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:53,120 What is behind the encrypted accounts of crooks in different 190 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,399 foreign countries? Now I have read that they're pretty standard encryption. 191 00:11:56,519 --> 00:11:59,360 They're able to break into that. Okay, why aren't you 192 00:11:59,399 --> 00:12:03,200 showing us what that is? You know what is interesting that? Again, 193 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:06,919 this it's shocking, but it doesn't surprise me because I've 194 00:12:06,919 --> 00:12:10,639 been slow locked, slow walked, and stonewall stonewalled by federal 195 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,360 agency and every investigation I've ever undertaken. But it's such 196 00:12:14,399 --> 00:12:19,279 a stark contrast with local officials. And again this just 197 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,240 ties in the larger theme of the genius of our 198 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:26,840 founding fathers. Local government close to the government, where it's 199 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:30,240 more accountable, more efficient, more effective local law enforcement. When 200 00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:35,200 there's a tragedy under their jurisdiction, they hold daily press briefings, 201 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,200 if not multiple briefings a day. Right, they keep the 202 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:41,360 public up to speed, even though they realize some of 203 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,120 the information may be inaccurate, it may change. They have 204 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,720 enough confidence in the public that they're telling them what 205 00:12:47,799 --> 00:12:50,919 they know, what they believe is true, and they'll update 206 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,320 it regularly. What happens to the federal government, it just 207 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,039 goes into a black hole, never to be revealed again. 208 00:12:57,039 --> 00:12:58,600 I mean that's certainly what we saw with the warrant 209 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,679 commissioned and the JFKI investigation. How many decades later, Yeah, 210 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:06,919 and we still don't know, although enough is coming to light, 211 00:13:08,039 --> 00:13:12,159 deathbed confessions, that kind of stuff that it sure sounds 212 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:17,440 like there's a lot of, you know, complicit activity on 213 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:18,840 the part of the CIA. 214 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: In particular, would Kamala's proposed raising corporate tax affect you 215 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,720 the consumer? The watched Dout on Wall Street podcast with 216 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,039 Chris Markowski. Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between 217 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:33,480 politics and the economy and how it affects your wallet. 218 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,559 Kamala is proposing raising corporate tax rates from twenty one 219 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,480 to twenty eight percent. Corporations are the ones selling stuff 220 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,799 and providing services. By raising taxes, they raise the prices 221 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,960 on things that they sell to you. Whether it's happening 222 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,480 in DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. 223 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: Be informed. 224 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: Check out the watch Doot on Wall Street podcast with 225 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,200 Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. 226 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: I guess that's the question. You're talking about the Kennedy assassination. 227 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:01,919 You're talking about an event that happened more than sixty 228 00:14:02,039 --> 00:14:06,080 years ago. We don't have all of the information in that, 229 00:14:06,159 --> 00:14:08,720 and the definitive look is not the Warren Commission report. 230 00:14:08,759 --> 00:14:11,240 I think with a vast majority of Americans agree with that, 231 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,159 even if they believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. 232 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,799 There's some magic bullet or whatever. 233 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: I mean. 234 00:14:17,879 --> 00:14:21,279 Speaker 1: This is as you mentioned, this is less than than 235 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,720 two months from the assassination attempt of a former president 236 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,919 who is running to be president again. You get the 237 00:14:30,039 --> 00:14:34,240 sense that this thing, when we really truly have answers 238 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,240 about it, there will be people involved in this situation 239 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:45,879 long dead before anything close to a definitive response comes out. 240 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:48,519 And you get that feeling, in particular the way that 241 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,360 these federal agencies at the center of this thing have 242 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,759 been dragging their feet. Are you concerned that we certainly 243 00:14:55,879 --> 00:14:59,799 won't have a sense of where things are by a 244 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,000 election day, but it will be much longer than that. 245 00:15:04,159 --> 00:15:05,919 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're not going to be revealing things for 246 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:07,960 the election day. I would be shocked if so all 247 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,000 of a sudden they open up. But you know, this 248 00:15:12,039 --> 00:15:17,519 is an ongoing problem with powerful federal government. Federal government. 249 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Let's face a Department of Justice, it's the law, the FBI, 250 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,840 they are the law, and they hold themselves above the law. 251 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:29,080 As a result, and unfortunately, Congress has allowed its oversight 252 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,919 an investory capabilities to completely atrophy. You know, we have 253 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:36,840 a sergeant in arms. We could go arrest people who 254 00:15:36,879 --> 00:15:39,519 are in contempt, but we don't do that. We throw 255 00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:41,639 it over the Justice Department. And let's face it up, 256 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:45,600 you're investing in a Democrat administration with a Democrat attorney general. 257 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,120 Nothing ever happens to it. Now when the tides are 258 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,399 turned and Congress investing in a Republican with the Democrat 259 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,440 attorney general, well then you have Steve Bannon and Peter 260 00:15:54,519 --> 00:15:55,919 Navarro put in jail. 261 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: Right exactly. Yeah, which is troubling and it's what you 262 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,080 and I can talk about for hours that not every 263 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:06,120 one of our listeners would certainly know about. But you've 264 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:11,200 seen this movie play out in Wisconsin before disparate treatment, unconstitutional, 265 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:13,720 perfect storm of wrongs and what was called the John 266 00:16:13,799 --> 00:16:21,039 Doe investigation led by election regulator bureaucrats and Democrat district 267 00:16:21,039 --> 00:16:25,440 attorneys in the state's largest counties going after then Governor 268 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,720 Scott Walker and anybody remotely allied with him, you know. 269 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:33,960 And it's something that your colleague in Congress, a member 270 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,720 of your Republican Congressional delegation in Wisconsin, told me in 271 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:41,519 twenty seventeen, just as Trump was taking office. What happened 272 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:47,000 in Wisconsin would be writ large nationally. And we have 273 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,240 seen the weaponization of the Department of Justice now under 274 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,720 the Biden Harris administration. You've been dealing with that since 275 00:16:54,799 --> 00:16:59,840 before Joe Biden claimed victory in the twenty twenty election. 276 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: I was literally a target of the FBI's disinformation campaign, 277 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:11,240 their pre sabotage of the Hunter Biden laptop. The FBI 278 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,519 took possession then in December twenty nineteen, Senator Grassley and 279 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:18,880 I were investigating Hunter Biden. We didn't know about the 280 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,319 laptop laptop at the time, but all during twenty twenty, 281 00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:26,599 we were being accused by our Democrat ranking members and 282 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,640 as a result, members of the media, of being of soliciting, 283 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,119 dissemining Russian disinformation, of being a tool of Vladimir Putin. Now, 284 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,000 nothing further, nothing could be further from the truth. Our 285 00:17:38,039 --> 00:17:41,039 report is completely stilld the test of time. It's almost 286 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:47,240 undercent based on interviews with US persons. A federal government 287 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,599 documents that type of thing. But in August twenty twenty, 288 00:17:51,599 --> 00:17:54,920 again this is after months of being accused of being 289 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,799 a tool of rush, of soliciting Russian disinformation, spreading it around, 290 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,960 I get an unsolicited briefing, so separately so did Senator 291 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,119 Grassley from the FBI, saying that I was a target 292 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,480 of Russian disinformation. I'm literally just rolling my eyes in this, 293 00:18:10,759 --> 00:18:13,559 in this briefing, and I'm going, okay, do you like 294 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,960 have information? I mean, is there do you have some 295 00:18:16,039 --> 00:18:17,559 intelligence on this? And then you know the kind of 296 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:20,559 you know, there's like six people out there briefing me 297 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,960 and they have nothing, you know, And I said, okay, 298 00:18:24,599 --> 00:18:27,599 now I'm p O and okay, I said, I want 299 00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:30,680 to know who directed this briefing, who told you to 300 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,039 brief me? And they kind of look at each other 301 00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:37,640 like a bunch of stooges inner agency process. Okay, you 302 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,119 know there are people in the seas who in the 303 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,960 eight sies. Man, this has been four years now, four 304 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,960 years later, I've written Center grass and I've written multiple 305 00:18:48,079 --> 00:18:53,319 letters to read and the Attorney General. You know who 306 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,480 directed this briefing? We still don't know. I've asked Director 307 00:18:56,599 --> 00:18:59,720 Ate in open hearings who direct that briefing. The most 308 00:18:59,759 --> 00:19:03,839 we gotten is it appears to be somebody in the 309 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,039 Office of the Director of National Intelligence. It wasn't John Radcliffe. 310 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:09,720 He was the Director of National TALIS at this time. 311 00:19:09,759 --> 00:19:13,920 But somebody in the deep stand underneath there direct this briefing. 312 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:16,599 But you know, I know who briefed me. You know 313 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,319 they're members of the FBI. We know the names, but 314 00:19:19,599 --> 00:19:23,680 who directed briefing we still don't know. Now these are 315 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,359 this is a briefing given unsolicited to US senders. At 316 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,799 the time. SENA. Grassley was chairman of the Judiciary Committee. 317 00:19:32,319 --> 00:19:36,319 I was Chairman of Homes Security Governmental Affairs, So two 318 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,599 sitting US centers, chairman of committees, and they won't tell 319 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,759 us who directed an unsolicited briefing. There was total bs 320 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:46,960 which by the way, I knew was a sent up. 321 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,160 And later I think May of twenty twenty one, they 322 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,400 leaked the fact that I've been ordered I've been briefed 323 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,559 about being a Russian Russian target. So I mean, it's 324 00:19:57,599 --> 00:19:59,759 just the most absurd thing and. 325 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:05,599 Speaker 1: To the fifty two deep state experts, the intelligence officials 326 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,279 right telling the world that not to believe this Hunter 327 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,119 Biden laptop story that was just coming out from the 328 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,039 New York Post weeks before the elections, Russian disinformation. 329 00:20:16,599 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: That was, by the way, that was the final sabotage. 330 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,640 So they started to pre sabotage that when they left 331 00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:26,400 mckayaac's repair shop there and the FBI agent says, you know, 332 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:29,480 it's this a paraphrase, it's our experiences. People don't talk 333 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,480 about these things, don't get in trouble, but don't get hurt. 334 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,200 So that began it. So twenty twenty, they're warning us, 335 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,880 trying to you know, really impede our investigation. By the way, 336 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:42,039 it worked to a certain extent because the day after 337 00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:44,519 we issued our report at the end of September of 338 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:49,160 twenty twenty, before the election, the next day mckaisac contacted 339 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,839 our office. He finally felt safe enough to offer that 340 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,200 laptop somebody else. So again, you know, the FBI is 341 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,240 warned to him. Worked until we saw two US senators 342 00:21:01,279 --> 00:21:05,920 write a report on the Biden family corruption, so he 343 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,440 felt safe enough so he contacted us. Now again, pretty 344 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,440 suspicious story, right, I mean, it certainly could have been 345 00:21:12,519 --> 00:21:16,000 rushing disinformation. So we didn't just take possession of the laptop. 346 00:21:16,039 --> 00:21:18,480 We do our due diligence. So who do we contact. 347 00:21:18,759 --> 00:21:21,720 We contented the FBI, and they gave us to run 348 00:21:21,759 --> 00:21:23,759 around for about two or three weeks. Literally is all 349 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,119 the guy in trial, Oh he's on vacation or whatever, 350 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,880 lame excuse to the point rooms Isaac got impatient and 351 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,839 then turned it over to Rugi Giuliani's attorney, who then 352 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,519 made a public through washing or through the New York Post. 353 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,039 So that's now you know the rest of the story 354 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:42,839 about that. But again the pre sabotaged by the FBI, 355 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:49,440 anticipating that that computer just might surface. It worked. We 356 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,640 didn't take possession of it, we didn't revealed as a 357 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:56,000 US Senate product that got leaked, which then, of course, 358 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,759 when the New York Post wrote about it, the intelli 359 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,880 He's kicked into overdrive, directed by the Hillary Clinton campaign, 360 00:22:05,559 --> 00:22:08,839 Anthony Blinkeln talking to Mike Morrell and others and the 361 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,759 Deep sixth about that they engineered that letter, which was 362 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:13,759 I think, to this day in US history, is the 363 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:19,039 greatest piece of election interference in US history. I don't 364 00:22:19,079 --> 00:22:23,359 think anything could even come close to an act in 365 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,960 the election to the great greater extent in. 366 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,279 Speaker 1: That Yeah, mind blowing what occurred. But let me ask 367 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:33,440 you this. Of course, we're talking with US Senator Ron Johnson, 368 00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:38,240 senior Senator the state of Wisconsin, and a senator who 369 00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:41,599 has spent a lot of his time in office looking 370 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:51,200 into allegations and actual, indeed acts of corruption within government. 371 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:55,000 And that's I guess I'm curious about that election interference 372 00:22:55,039 --> 00:23:00,640 that we just talked about in twenty twenty to what 373 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,160 we're seeing here in twenty twenty four. Do you believe 374 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,839 that that is why the Democrats, the DNC, the Marxist 375 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,400 leftists in this country are doing everything they can to 376 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,559 control power, not simply because they want to keep to 377 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:19,160 set the leftist agenda in this country. They indeed want 378 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,599 to do that, but they have a hell of a 379 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,440 lot to lose if the Republicans retake the Senate, still 380 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:31,640 control the House and have Donald Trump in the executive mansion. 381 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: That's probably part of their equation, But the main driving 382 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,200 force of Democrats, of leftists, of radical leftists is the 383 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,720 acquisition of power, and lord acting had it right. Power 384 00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:50,079 corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely, So I know we should 385 00:23:50,079 --> 00:23:53,039 be surprised at the grotesque level of corruption that we 386 00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:56,599 start to uncover. And Matt, we are just scratching the 387 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,240 surface on this. I mean, I mean, we're just scratching 388 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,039 the surface. I mean when you don't know the federal 389 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:06,240 government involvement in the jfk assassination, when you really don't 390 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:09,160 know what happened with Nixon, I mean, the more you 391 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,240 read about that, I mean, that might have been, that 392 00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:14,319 might have been the second coup. You know, the first 393 00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:16,759 cup is you take out Kennedy, the second coup you 394 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:20,960 take out Nixon, then you take out Trump. To what 395 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,079 extent is the federal government has been involved in these things, 396 00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:26,960 We'll probably never know because there's a reason you called 397 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,079 the deep state. It's very deep, it's very pervasive. But no, 398 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,279 I mean Democrats, they just want to acquire power. Net 399 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,400 That's what people have to have their eyes open to is, 400 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:42,519 first of all, how grossly ineffective and inefficient and really 401 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,599 destructive the federal government is. Quit looking at the federal 402 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:49,880 government to solve your problems, Quit outsourcing problems, solving the 403 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,759 federal governments completely incapable solving problems. It makes or exacerbates 404 00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:56,759 more problems than ever solved. The vision of our founding 405 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:01,400 Fithers was sovereign states, where most of the authority resided 406 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,319 in the state, most of the power resided the people, 407 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,440 but the federal government was going to do just very few, 408 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,680 very limited things. You know, national defense obviously is curing 409 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,799 our board. You're saying that the rules of the world 410 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:18,119 rode for interstate commerce or commerce those types of things. Okay, 411 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,440 the founders had to be spinning in their graves based 412 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,319 on how this value evolved and how grotesquely large and 413 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,039 powerful and controlling the federal government has become. And as 414 00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:32,119 a result, the politicians who control those levers of power 415 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,000 within the federal government, these are the power brokers. 416 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,319 Speaker 1: Well, one thing remains absolutely true on that front is 417 00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:46,319 that elections have consequences. We've seen those consequences across this 418 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,240 country over the last three and a half plus years. 419 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,200 We have seen them on so many different fronts. Negative consequences, 420 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:01,079 the negative impacts that every American consumer, every middle income 421 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,440 earner in this country, the suffering from higher prices from 422 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:10,200 what you buy at the grocery store to what you 423 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,519 put in your car at the gas pumps. We have 424 00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:15,680 seen a border that isn't a border anymore. We have 425 00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:20,000 seen national security risks at our front door and around 426 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,599 the world, within our strongest and dearest allies, trying to 427 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,640 fight off terrorists that will eventually may indeed probably already 428 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,559 here because of the open border policies of Joe Biden, 429 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,160 and the borders are You wrote an interesting piece for 430 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,279 the Federalists. It appears you can find it at the 431 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:46,279 Federalist dot com. The headline is Democrat controlled states refuse 432 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,640 to clean voter rolls and fix election problems. And you 433 00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:56,920 note why that is. You note what's at stake because 434 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,960 of that coming up as we begin very shortly, the 435 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,720 push of absentee ballots out there. You know, we talk 436 00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:08,079 about election day being, you know, a couple of months away, 437 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,400 election season is already here. 438 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: Well, it is so galling to listen to the legacy 439 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,680 corporate media. I refuse call it the mainstream media unless 440 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,839 I slip up, because there's nothing mainstreaming bout of there. 441 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,559 The radical leftists, right, but they have so poisoned the 442 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,160 well by carrying Democrats water. In terms of there's no 443 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,160 election fraud, there were no irregularities, there were you know, 444 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,960 there were all kinds of irregularities in the twenty twenty 445 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,000 election in Wisconsin. I tick them off, you know, the 446 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,359 balloting in the park, the carrying of APPSTE ballots, what 447 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,079 happened to nursing homes. I mean the fact that Zuckerbucks 448 00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:47,480 took over the green Bay system. The electionn clerks just 449 00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:50,480 resigned out out of frustration or fear, fear whatever. And 450 00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:55,839 so you have you know, Zuckerbuck Crony's hacks pretty well 451 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,599 run the green Bay election. Gee, what could go wrong there? Right? 452 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,440 All right? So then fast forward, you have the Biden 453 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,599 administration executive order asking all the agencies to register voters. Gee, 454 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,440 that will happen on a non partisan basis. Right, Eventually 455 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,240 they're just flooding into Washington, in Waukeshaw County to sign 456 00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:17,920 up more Republicans. Right. And then then you the kude 457 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,920 gra here is you open up the border, you allow 458 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,000 millions of people to flood in. Very grateful for the 459 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,480 to the individual who opened up the floodgate. Right. Uh. 460 00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:33,680 And then you do everything possible to relax any control 461 00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:37,680 over the voting process, mail in balloting as APSTE ballots, 462 00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:41,079 don't don't worry about dating them, don't don't worry about 463 00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:45,759 providing proof of citizenship that you actually are a US 464 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:49,319 centsen give them driver's licenses. But this is what Tim 465 00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:52,559 Walls in Minnesota did allow. We're going to get a 466 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:57,400 driver's license and then to register voting. All you need 467 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,400 is to driver's license and a utility bill. They've now 468 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,559 you can register for vote now, and you know they 469 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,519 whether they even ask them whether they're US citizens. Okay. 470 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,160 So one of the things I wrote about is states 471 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,359 that have been trying to keep on top of this. 472 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,559 For example, Virginia I think has purged three hundred and 473 00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:19,799 three individuals off their registration goals roles that were illegal immigrants. 474 00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:21,680 I think they caught them through the Department of Motor 475 00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:24,559 Vehicle Division. Right, So when you're signing for a driver's license, 476 00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:26,880 I guess you have to clear the citizenship and there's 477 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,039 a state on the ball checking those things, and they 478 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,039 Ohio bounced I can't remember the exact number. Four hundred 479 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:38,680 some even Boston, Massachusetts, seventy people requested to get taken 480 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,000 off the registration voter registration role. There were illegal immigrants, 481 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:44,599 and you kind of why would they do that? Well, 482 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,799 if they illegally sign up to vote that could impact 483 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,880 their immigration benefits apparently, So again, how do these people 484 00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:55,599 even get on the voter registration role? And then you 485 00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:58,680 go to Wisconsin. We've got seven a half million people 486 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,559 on our voter registration role. Our population what five million people? 487 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,279 Six you know, we're approaching six million people, three and 488 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:12,960 a half million elgible voters. Yeah, but we've got seventy 489 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,880 and a half million people on our voter registers and 490 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,279 they refuse to clean it up. 491 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: Well, we have a lawsuit in your state as well, 492 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:27,519 the Federalists reported on and it notes it's real concern 493 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,279 is I think a concern that we see in other 494 00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:35,319 swing states as well, that the Wisconsin's Election Commission and 495 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,519 the Department of Transportation are being accused of failing to 496 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,680 verify the citizenship of registered voters, leading to potentially thousands 497 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,960 of registrants unlawfully included on the Badger State's voter roles. 498 00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:54,319 That's one of myriad election integrity concerns weaknesses, to put 499 00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:57,960 it delicately, in the Badger State, which will play a 500 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,839 pivotal role in the two thousand twenty four presidential election. 501 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:05,880 But there's a Supreme Court led by a bought and 502 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:14,079 paid for liberal majority that has instituted or reinstituted absentee 503 00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:17,519 ballot drop boxes. How concerned are you that we are 504 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:21,400 going to see whether the accomplice media wants to recognize 505 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,279 it or not a repeat of Wisconsin and all of 506 00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:28,640 the voter integrity irregularities and problems we saw there in 507 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,599 twenty twenty. 508 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: Well, again, my main concern is registering people illegally and 509 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,880 people that are voting that shouldn't be voting. Because it's 510 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,839 really once that bounce in the box, it's pretty hard 511 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:43,880 to control that. So you've got to control it upfront. 512 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,680 That's my primary concern. 513 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: You. 514 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: We did get more than five thousand poll workers. These 515 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,079 people are training paid. We also have probably most shifts 516 00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:57,880 of pole observers filled to a service worked in twenty 517 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,920 twenty two. I had a close election. Milwaukee had all 518 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,799 their votes in encountered by eleven o'clock at night. I 519 00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:05,920 mean that's because we had eyes in the process. They 520 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,519 didn't leave it open till four o'clock in the morning, 521 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,880 just looking for twenty six thousand votes. So that helps 522 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,559 to a certain extent, But you have to get control 523 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,880 over the registation process, which is why the left is 524 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,400 so resistant to cleaning up voter registration and having controls 525 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,480 over the process. You know, I have to see bows. 526 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200 I mean, you have to do you have to compare signatures. 527 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,720 It's really important to have poll workers both sides agreeing that, yeah, 528 00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:38,960 that's the Vale signature. If you're not doing that, that 529 00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,279 represents a real vulnerability in terms of electric integrity. So 530 00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,079 there are so many different ways you can gain the system. 531 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,519 I'm not saying it's all that easy to do in 532 00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:50,559 a massive scale, but what I can say is I 533 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:55,920 think the Democrats are absolutely dedicated to utilizing any technique 534 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,759 they can possibly think of to cheat. I mean, isn't 535 00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:03,640 it obviously mean they oppose the Save Act, which again 536 00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:06,839 is are illegal to vote as an illegal immigrant. Well, 537 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,119 let's just make sure new registrations people have proved that 538 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,960 their citizenship, and the Democrats are absolutely opposed to that. 539 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,079 I think they'd be willing to shut down the government 540 00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:19,440 if the House attached to the Save Act to the cr. 541 00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: Well you note that in your column and the Federalist 542 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,559 and I think it's an interesting point that Joe Biden, 543 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,880 the President of the United States, who now is getting 544 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:35,160 tough on the border. Right has said repeatedly that he 545 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,000 would veto the Save Act. He would veto a measure 546 00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:44,599 passed by the House of Representatives. It's obviously going nowhere 547 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,880 in the Democrat controlled Senate, but he would veto a 548 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,759 measure that requires proof of citizenship to vote. You know, 549 00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:56,599 the vast majority of Americans want that in election integrity. 550 00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,839 The polls reflect that, But he's willing to do that. 551 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:05,160 Why do you think they are so hell bent on 552 00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:11,719 stopping illegal immigrants and foreign nationals from voting in the 553 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,960 US elections, Because. 554 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,039 Speaker 2: That's why they open up the border, kind of defeat 555 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,920 the risk they took in terms of terrorism and crime 556 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,280 and all that kind of stuff. And their goal was 557 00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:28,880 this get these people in here, very appreciative of Democrats 558 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,400 for letting in this country, and then vote for them 559 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,920 long term, solidify their power, turn America into a one 560 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,920 party nation. That's the goal. 561 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,119 Speaker 1: Final question for you have been very generous at the time. 562 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,039 I certainly appreciate it. That's not like there is ever 563 00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,760 a dull day in the swamp and the fight against 564 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:53,159 the swamp. But you have long ever since I've known you, 565 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,000 and I've known you for a long time. You have 566 00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:58,320 been a guy that says, show me the evidence, show 567 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,840 me the documents. I want to see it. You're an 568 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,119 information guy. You are a charts and grafts guy. We 569 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,480 know that about you. You like looking. You love looking 570 00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:10,880 at the numbers and seeing where the trend lines are. 571 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,360 Did you ever think in your wildest imagination that your 572 00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:22,199 fascination with numbers, the importance that you place on data, 573 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,880 would potentially save a president's life. I bring all of 574 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,960 this up in context for our listeners who do not 575 00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:35,599 know the day July thirteenth in Butler, Pennsylvania, when former 576 00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:39,119 President Donald Trump turned his head a bit to look 577 00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:47,320 at some information about Biden's border mess. That information was 578 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,280 supplied by you, Senator Johnson and your office. 579 00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. God works some mysterious ways. I remember moments have 580 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,960 to the assassination attempt. We saw some photos. I think 581 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,840 my comms director said, your chart's up there on the screen. 582 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,960 You know, at the moment of this was before Prompt 583 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,280 credited the chart with literally saving his life because he 584 00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:13,599 looked at it again turned just had they've done you 585 00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:16,400 know the analysis of that, and that's what saved his life. 586 00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:18,800 But the backstory on that is that that's the chart 587 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,239 I've been developing as Chairman Homland Security dates back to 588 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,440 probably twenty twelve twenty thirteen with the doc of memorandum 589 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,960 and explosion of uncompanied children. Yeah, that really was the 590 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,320 thing that sparked all of this illegal flow as President 591 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:39,599 Obama's unlawful Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals memorandum. But you know, 592 00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:42,079 so I've been it's been varied, but I've been basically 593 00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:47,440 updating that chart. Used it. You know, different different committees 594 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,159 have used my chart. Okay, so just share serendipity. I 595 00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:55,800 flew up to the Green Bay rally right after Easter 596 00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:59,119 in the spring of twenty twenty three. I know it's 597 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,280 spring twenty twenty four this year with President Trump, I 598 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,840 had a bunch of things I wanted to show him. 599 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,760 That was one of them. He liked the chart, had 600 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,280 me email it on the plane to his comms people. 601 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,960 They took it, took off my logo, put a couple 602 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,320 of red arrows, and they're kind of reading some titles. 603 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,920 But you know, it's basically the same chart he used 604 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,760 that day, and he's been using it ever since. So 605 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,000 that's kind of the backstory there. But again, it's it is. 606 00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:31,760 I mean, yeah, that's pretty weird to so you know, internally, 607 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,000 I say, not only my charts of informative, but they're 608 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,480 life saving. 609 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they are never mock. Never mock a politician 610 00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:46,199 with charts, never mock data wonk again because they can 611 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,480 definitely save a life. 612 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: We've seen it. 613 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: And you know, in all seriousness, you said that the 614 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,440 Lord works in mysterious ways. Indeed, we all know that 615 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,079 in our lives. But you know, just to think about 616 00:37:56,559 --> 00:38:01,639 how those events came to pass, and I could feel 617 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:07,360 that as part of this just glowing sense of that idea, 618 00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:10,920 the idea of providence. At the Republican National Committee in 619 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,840 Milwaukee in July, you felt it. I know everybody I 620 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,480 talked to felt it. There was a sense of providence 621 00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:24,679 guiding this thing. So ultimately, do you feel like that 622 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,880 is in work in this election? 623 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 2: Well, our nation has been so blessed. I mean there 624 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,400 is I mean in the span of human history, I 625 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:40,000 mean brutality, the lack of freedom to have for a 626 00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:43,119 few hundred years, the shining city on a hill, the 627 00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:48,920 what America represents, it's rare, it's precious. You know. Unfortunately, 628 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,199 we don't teach history. So I don't think enough Americans 629 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:57,280 truly appreciate how unbelievably lucky we are in the Spanish 630 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,599 human history to have what we have. But again, we're 631 00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:03,599 all beings. You see affluence, so you just always want more. 632 00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:06,880 You take things for granted. But we can't take this 633 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,920 for granted. I mean, Venezuelan's voted themselves into poverty only 634 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,719 to a couple of decades, we're right now going down 635 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,440 a very dangerous path. So again, you know, this nation 636 00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:23,320 has been immeasurably blessed by God, by our creator. I 637 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:26,639 hope he's looking down and I hope he. I hope 638 00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:30,639 he blesses us again. We simply can't continue down this 639 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,719 road to destruction that the radical left has put us on. 640 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,079 So that's all of the reasons, Matt I've proposed for 641 00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:40,119 the Republican Conference in the Senate. We need a mission statement. 642 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,719 What are we for? What are we willing to fight for? 643 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,480 So I post relatively simple one to fight and defeat 644 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,440 the ideology and policies of the radical left are destroying 645 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,280 this country. Quite honestly, I'd like to have something a 646 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,519 little more uplifting, but at this point in time, that's 647 00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,719 got to be our mission. The radical left is destroying 648 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,199 this country. They have gained control overall institutions. They need 649 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,079 to be fought and defeated, and then we can look 650 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,440 forward to again rebuilding this country, really, really in the 651 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,920 image of our finding fathers. 652 00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:20,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, and I hope fought, defeated and repudiated at 653 00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:23,239 the polls this November time will tell. Thanks to my 654 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:29,000 guest today, US Senator Ron Johnson, Wisconsin's Senior Center. You've been, 655 00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:32,519 Senior Senator, excuse me, you've been listening to another edition 656 00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:36,400 of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittles, senior correspondent 657 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,039 at the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. Until then, 658 00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:43,800 stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the friend 659 00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 2: Earn the face the reason