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Speaker 1: Live from rouses Here on Burbank and Lee, Jacob Flynn
and also Moose here at Rousi's Alanda and Taty back
in studio.
Speaker 2: Happy Halloween, Happy Halloween. Yeah, I forgot about that until
I saw.
Speaker 1: The skeleton hoodie that Flynn's were. Don't really know where
one would buy a skeleton hoodie like that.
Speaker 4: Put this on and said, all the way up it
becomes a skeleton face. Oh okay, I got got on
Instagram ads last year.
Speaker 2: What did you think you were getting? No, no, this
is what I thought. But it was like the pop
up ads that oh my god. Oh I like that. Well,
like hoodies and skeletons are pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that so once a year, I'm gonna wear this.
Speaker 4: Absolutely actually wore this in the spring one time. It's
kind of weird, but I did it.
Speaker 2: Where did you wear that? And did they ask you
to leave? Well?
Speaker 4: No, it wasn't like out and probably I just put
it on around the house. Okay, yeah that's not weird.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 1: Well your family already probably thinks you're a little weird.
Speaker 2: No, no, they love me. I love you. Yep.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, if you're not a little bit
weird and you're just kind of boring at that point,
that's fair, right, that's fairy.
Speaker 2: Spice it up a little bit. I agree.
Speaker 4: Family didn't want me to give them stock responses, canned answers,
robot responses. Oh dude, I'm a little a little sad today.
That's this is the last day we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna hear us. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: And the guy that goes, oh you're scared, I kind
of do, like, remember what movie that's Yeah, te Laandra,
if y'all know what movie that's from, just let me
know you're scary.
Speaker 2: I like it as well. It's gonna go where.
Speaker 4: I am said, it's been a it's been a hell
of a ride a Landra just tipping the cap to
you on making that in about you know, twelve seconds
that one.
Speaker 2: I like it. Yeah, I felt like it.
Speaker 1: Anything going on around ben Rouge here.
Speaker 2: Lately, or I don't think so we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna talk Thursday night football between the Ravens and Dolphins.
Speaker 2: That was a dynamic.
Speaker 4: I think about two and a half hours of the
show should be dedicated to the Ravens and how just
amazing they are.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was. It wasn't a great game, but it
actually talking about I mean, I mean we could just like.
Speaker 2: Just could go over it.
Speaker 4: I guess the Ravens destroyed the Dolphins. Dolphins or shambles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was more just a joke because there's all the
things going on in Bee.
Speaker 4: It did win last week though, Yeah, all right, you're
still talking about it. Still, I'm still going you know,
it is a sports show, Bud, that's fair. Last yesterday
try to be kind of like a political show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for about four minutes. Yeah, we had to cut
that off. Yep.
Speaker 1: Well, probably be a little bit more of that today.
So if you're listening to this show, chances are by
now you know that Scott Woodard is no longer the
athletic director at LSU. That is certainly not something that
I thought I would say at any point during any
of this athletic calendar, Because you had national championships in
multiple sports and from coaches that Scott brought in. Now,
obviously you're going to be tied to your football head
coach as much as any just because that's the way
that it goes, dollars and cents of it.
Speaker 2: But I didn't expect to be here.
Speaker 1: I mean, Scott's somebody that obviously, when he was at
Texas A and M, everyone wanted.
Speaker 2: Back at LSU.
Speaker 1: He comes to LSU and look, somebody else hired coach O.
But you win a national championship, and your first year here,
everything's going great. You win baseball national championships, women's basketball
national championships when you have been so close before but
you never could get over that hump, and you bring
in Kim Mulki and you finally you get there. Gymnastics
national championships, Soccer programs certainly on much better footing than
it was before.
Speaker 2: Like we could go on and on and on.
Speaker 1: But it just shows you, you know, how much football
drives the bus for everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it kind of shows you, like everything's important, Yeah,
but it's not real important if football is not hitting
on all cylinders. And that it goes to show you
the importance that you know, this isn't like it isn't
like this at every school, but certainly at LSU.
Speaker 2: If football is not healthy.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what the rest of the sports are
really doing. Clearly were just coming off. We are four
months removed from a national championship in baseball on a
coach that Scot Woodward hired. Yeah, and all of a sudden,
we're three losses into you know, three losses before Halloween
and football, and the athletic director who made that hier
that just won a national championship, he has been relieved
of his duties. And I thought that, you know, I
can speak for probably myself and maybe Jacob here, like
we have a lot of respect for Scott Woodward and
what he's done, and like Jake said, when he came
over here, everybody was dying for him to come back
home and come back here, and because he is known
to be a really good athletic director. And you know,
I think there's a lot of things that we don't
know about this decision on why it happened and why
it came about. I find it wild that it happened
right now, just because.
Speaker 2: There's no president, no head coach, no head coach. Mitt
the full time and.
Speaker 4: I and you know, I get that if he's not
going to be making the you know, if you knew
Scott wasn't gonna make the hire for the coach, Yeah,
I get you got to get a guy put in
place to start that process. I understand all that, but yeah,
it was a little shocking to see.
Speaker 2: Just how faust everything happened.
Speaker 4: Well, because you got you got to you got the
head coach getting fired and then all of a sudden,
all this crazy noise from the governor talking about it
and you know, doing all the shows and having the
press commerce and all of a sudden, right on the heels.
I mean, there was no other option after all that, Right,
it's to happen, But just to see it happened kind
of surreal. We're living in a surreal moment and Louisiana
all eyes have, boy have they.
Speaker 1: It's not been the best light shined on Louisiana over
the last week.
Speaker 2: Can tell you that. Yep, all because you lost a
couple of football games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just continues to what feels like a
downward spiral right now. One piece of the Ross Dellinger
article that I did find very interesting. He was talking
about how the relationship between Governor Landry and Scott Wildward.
You know, obviously it goes back, and it goes back
to when the governor wanted to rehire Will Wade last
year and Scott refused.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I saw, And there's probably some you know,
deeper political things seated before all this, but yeah, I
did read that. So reportedly the governor wanted Scott to
hire Will Wade back. Of course, Scott was here for
you know, five years at a I guess what, three
three NCAA tournaments, one hundred and five and fifty one record,
and went to McNeese down the road to kind of
rehab his career after you know, getting fired here for
doing something that's perfectly legal a year later. So yeah,
I can yeah, sure, yeah, And but still to that point,
it's like it's played that yeah, the political someone in
the political office is trying to yeah yeah, basketball head coach.
Pretty wild yeah, wild times it is.
Speaker 1: And just a lot of a lot of misinformation out
there about who's whose agent is whose agent, and and
that not being factual, and who actually signed you know,
Jimbo's buy out that was you know, Ross York signed
that extension. Actually I talked to Jimbo yesterday on the phone.
He's like, no, I you know we did that deal
or all signed it. And because he called me, he's
like what's going on? Like how long you got coach?
And you know, he's like, oh, I'm ready to talk.
Speaker 2: Jim is always ready to talk.
Speaker 4: Got what I did find that so this was I
read this on the article from the Athletic. It's talking
about Scott Woodward's contract and how you know a lot
of this, a lot of the fuss is being made
from the Governor's office because of the taxpayer dollars in
the well. On Scott's contract, I think he has a
north of six million dollar buyout and that's reportably supposed
to be paid through the year twenty twenty nine. Now
what I did kind of find interesting is, you know,
I know that I know that these contracts come with
offset language, just like Brian Kelly's contract comes with offset language,
which means like, if you get another job or a
similar position, the money you make there offsets the buyout.
So yeah, if you get another head coaching job and
it makes you know, ten million dollars a year whatever
it is, five million dollars a year, that offsets that's
something that LSU or whoever, whoever it is, I don't
know who's being reported.
Speaker 2: Whoever it is doesn't have to pay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I also thought it was interesting that said they're,
per contract, required to attempt to find another like Scott's
required to attempt to find another athletic director job or
a similar position to offset to initiate that offset pay
out language, which is a fascinating sentence for me when
I'm reading a contract, because right, what does requirements mean?
Is there are the requirements laid out? Like is it
something that you just have to like go through the
motions and make.
Speaker 1: A couple of calls like when you have you know,
your your son and your daughter whatever whatever, and you're like, hey,
you need to find a job if you're living in
my house, and they like, dude, I like filled out
seven indeed dot com applications.
Speaker 2: What do you mean? It's like, Oh, did you really?
Is it like that effort effort tuxedo to my job interview? Yeah,
now the tuxedos kind of seem kind of yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Is it that type of situation? Like what's
what can you manipulate that sentence? If it's an interesting
sentence to me just saying they're required, and it says
it's similar language to Brian Kelly.
Speaker 2: He is, Look, I'm reading this. I don't like.
Speaker 4: I didn't fact check this. I don't have a copy
of the contract was reported. It's the same type of language.
It's in Brian Kelly's requirements to go find another job
or attempt to find a similar job. Now if he
you know, it becomes you know, because Starbucks becomes a barista, like,
it's probably not the same type of offsets up a
similar type of yeah, similar type of the baristas out there.
Speaker 2: Shout out hard working. I did it earlier than everybody.
It's true, it's true. Uh yeah. So there there's the
numbers that we that we know.
Speaker 1: The over fifty million, the over six million, and then
there's a lot that you hear about what those numbers
could actually be. And that look, that's going to be
for LSU's sake, that's going to be very very important.
And because you still got to hire a head coach,
you've got to hire a new athletic director. Uh you know,
you'll have a president here. Uh you know, a couple
of weeks week whatever time. That three pretty big positions
of phil Yeah, like can we talk about alignment, Well,
it's pretty misaligned right now. Yeah, with no person full
time in any of the three positions. And that's why,
like when you talk about well, I think it was
Georgia that we used yesterday, Like President ad Head coach
all have degrees from Georgia.
Speaker 2: And again you don't have to. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you have to have LSU R
Louisian ties. I'm just saying like their alignment like is
through that they all three have some sort of a
Georgia degree. Even Josh Brooks who has an undergrad from LSU,
like he's got a Georgia degree as well. And they together, right,
they work through every situation together, and they work together
and they're friendly together. Like you have to have that.
You got to be on the same page. Again, I
don't care where you're from. I don't care you know
if you've got Louisiana ties. But that's that has to happen.
You have to have that alignment. I mean, remember Brian
Kelly talked about that alignment seventy three times in his
opening press conference. That's when that became a buzzword. Well
right now, you don't have it at all.
Speaker 2: You don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, you got an idea obviously, I who your
president's going to be, and it's going to be announced
here coming up. You got no idea on head coach.
And with the athletic director. I think you have some idea,
but you have to respect that job too, and you've
got to open up all possibilities to who your athletic
director is going to be. There is people with you
know LSU ties, Like we mentioned that if you want
to try to bring somebody who's in a really good spot, well,
you typically pull on the heartstrings a little bit like, hey,
you want to come back home?
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So is that what they're going to do? Are you know,
are they tired of the big game hunting that a
lot of people feel like, got LSU in trouble with
the Brian Kelly contract. Do they want somebody that's under
the radar, somebody that's maybe you know, a grinder behind
the scenes and does all the things that you have
to do, and it's well respected.
Speaker 2: But maybe you don't know his name. It's I mean,
I like that one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you do that though, And I and I'm
with you, but you know how this works. You do that,
you fire somebody that everybody knew in the ad world
for somebody that not a lot know.
Speaker 2: Well, you can get fired either way, no questions.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's going to be three months of
we hire this guy, and not for me, but from
the masses.
Speaker 4: I hear you, I'm with you, and I gave this
morning yesterday. I mean, you're looking for a head Coach's
pretty pretty darn simple. For me, it's like, what to
not hire is the guy that's a really polished speaker.
And to me, it's if you're a polish speaker, if
you talk like a politician, if you can go work
a room and a crowd, and you know, name me
a head coach that was a Polish speaker. I don't
know if you can. Now, don't confuse the word polished
with good. Yeah, being a good speaker.
Speaker 1: Coach Saban's not a Polish speaker. Nope, he's a very
good speaker. And when he talks you listen. But Jimba
Fisher is not a polished speaker. But because they'll find
something that either makes them happy or mad, most times
mad when they're talking and they'll kind of go they'll
veer off a little bit, and they'll go off on
that and then they'll come back right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So the people that people want right now,
Elaine Kiffin, is he Polish speaker? No, No, you're got
in Arizona State break key, nope. Bill Belichick, nope. The
greatest of all times, those coaches. Nobody's a Polish speaker
that leads to that that gives people an uneasy I
feel like it's always given me an uneasy feeling. And
I think that was a lot of the big question
marks with Brian Kelly. He was such a Polish speaker,
like everything. If you had a transcri transcript of every
press conference all the things that he says, you're like,
that's a those are that's a really good statement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are if you read it and didn't listen
to those are good words.
Speaker 4: But it's like it's like most politicians, it's like, I
don't know if I trust you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, right, just don't know about it. Yeah,
it's fair. I mean, even just never know what's coming
from the heart and what it's actually inside, right.
Speaker 1: Even when you and I like when somebody asked us
to come speak to somebody, and you kind of know
that you're when to do it, and you know for
a week you're gonna go do it. It's like you
got all these notes and you're trying to be perfect
and you're basically trying to read it, you know, word
for word. I don't ever feel like those are any good.
I don't feel like those are any good. But like
when he's like Yesterday's like hey, hey, come up, hees
talk to the team, I typically feel like those are
the ones that hit home a little bit more because
they're coming from your heart and they're coming from a
place of what your habits are or whatever that might be.
And so I mean, I hear, I understand what you're saying.
It's like almost somebody that you know galvanizes his team
and does all those things, but it doesn't feel like
he's reading football one oh one to you coach speak right.
It feels like he's got some passion behind his voice.
It feels like he's got some pain in his voice
a little bit rights, trials and tribulations like whatever it
might be, because like it means that much to him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody that is a little bit annoyed that a
camera's at his face because because he could be watching
some some good film at that point, right, yes, it
could be on he could be chewing.
Speaker 2: Someone out at that point. Yeah. No, he's got to
be here doing an interview.
Speaker 1: Oh so I love to get to a ton to get.
Speaker 2: To uh F.
Speaker 1: One's going to try to get back to that Thursday
night football game again.
Speaker 2: We won't let him. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: We'll have us on Dolphins toa We ain't talking Dolphin
Bama Raven.
Speaker 2: We play Bama. Yeah, the connection, you see it, I
see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, but my god, that was a bad football
game last night. All right, we will take a break.
We are live from Arousis here on Burbank and Lee.
Come hang out, come see us. They've already got the
chairs down, I got the cheers down already. I want
you to come have a little breakfast with us. Yep,
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Speaker 1: Right, welcome back in. It is OTB here. We are
live from rouse Is on Burbank and Lee. The store
is starting to pick up already and it's only seven
twenty three. Multiple, multiple times I've seen and right now,
if you're watching some on camera, somebody's hitting the breakfast bar.
Right now, these people can see the guy hitting the
breakfast bar. Watch out, move skeleton. Thank you. We are
here on this football Friday, and it's been a week
in which we haven't talked a lot of actual football
games because of all the news surrounding LSU football, LSU athletics. Now,
so at some point today we'll certainly get back into
the actual football portion of the football.
Speaker 2: Heke in on a football Did you just say, Yeah.
Speaker 4: We hadn't talked a lot of football this week. We're
still not going to do it right now.
Speaker 1: I was just letting them know, like if they're like, hey,
they got games this weekend, even though LSU doesn't break
up against typically we would have already done that and
broken down like all the SEC matchups. But with everything
going on around LSU Louisiana, just all the stuff, all
the things, and it's going to be Look, it's going
to be as intriguing as anything that we've seen, I
think in recent memory, because it's all happening at the
same time with the president, with the athletic director, with
the head coach. And you know, look, when you move
on from somebody like Scott Woodard, who's you know, got
the trophies and the trophy case in multiple sports, and
then you move on from Brian Kelly, who's got all
the wins now didn't have the trophies, but had the
wins and had a name. Certainly it's it's going to
be under a microscope. I think we all know that
you got the governor of Louisiana involved, but when you
move on from that, it doesn't mean you have to
replicate what you just had as well. Like you, I
was just talking about maybe getting in under the radar,
ad and I think you were intrigued maybe by that.
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by that.
Speaker 1: At the head coaching position, I look, I think the
list of candidates is good. I think there's people on
that list that can come in here and can be successful.
But also I'm like, hey, just because maybe you don't
know the resume of this head coach, Allah Kenney Dillingham
at Arizona State, that does not mean that they're not
fit for a job like this. It doesn't mean that
they couldn't come in and do a hell of a job.
If you don't know who Brent Key is at Georgia Tech. Again,
it's not Lane Kiffin, it's not Dan Lanning. But it
doesn't mean that he's got the number sevent team in
the country right now, Like, it doesn't mean that they
can't do a great job. LSU need somebody to come in.
That is, and I've said it all week, I'll continue
to say it, that is going to desire this job
more than anything in his life. Right it's family one
A and then this, this job would have to be
one B. Not like let's get the good lords and
props he's up there? Is that not including family? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean kind of understand. I mean, shout out to
the good Lord. But you know what I mean, It's
like he's so honored to be here and finds it
is such a privilege to be here and worked his
ass off his entire life to get this job. I
know it's seven twenty six Memphis. I'm sorry, but that's
what he did, you know what I mean, And not
like oh well, you're lucky to have me, or have
you seen my resume? Have you've seen what I've done?
That's not what they need. They need somebody that it
could be. There's so many names that that person could be.
And I just think we we have to hear all
of the things out and not just say boom this guy,
but link if it or bus. It's like no, no, no,
no no. I'm not saying Lane wouldn't do a good job.
I like Lane. I think Lane's one of the best
football minds we have. I think he calls an offensive
game better than anybody we have.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: But I think right now, where you're at the time
that you have when you made that, you really need
to open your mind to maybe it's ten guys, and
you need to find out what's in those ten guys' hearts.
You need to find out where they're at.
Speaker 2: You need to find out their work ethic and why.
Speaker 1: They want this LSU job, like all those things, because
I think you're coming off a complete opposite situation from
what you had.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: It needs to be a over the top, in depth
search for a head coach.
Speaker 2: That is.
Speaker 4: That you're looking at more than just career records. You're
looking at more than just the flash, the sizzle, whatever
it is. Any And I think the uncertainty from from
fans comes from all right, now, like you got to
fill so many positions. Who's who's going to make that decision?
Is this guy going to be qualified to do that?
Is this guy going to be like? All right, well,
you know, I'm in a new position as the president
at LSU, and you know I'm gonna go with the
guy that everybody would pick because that's safe, right, that's safe. Well,
anybody can come. I could be the president and I
could come and you know, call call Lane Kiffin's agent
and asked if he wants to be the coach. Like
anybody can do that, anybody. It takes a guy to
do it in depth. Like now, okay, if you do
an in debt search and you're looking at all those guys,
you're looking at big schools, medium schools, small schools, you're
looking at the guys that are, just like you said,
have that passion, would do, would die.
Speaker 2: To come here and be the coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, young, old, whatever it is, it doesn't matter. If
you do that, and then you're like, yeah, all right,
Lane is it's actually that dude, that's it.
Speaker 2: Like I've done it, and he meets all the requirements.
Speaker 4: He impressed me overall everybody else then that that's one thing.
But anybody can just come in in day one say hey,
Dan Lane and you want a big LSU coach, you.
Speaker 2: Want to do that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Anybody, name your number exactly. Anybody can do that. Yeah,
And that doesn't help LSU football. It's not to say
that Dan Lenning's not awesome. He's incredible. I love him
because great pregame halftime speeches, always has his team ready
to go.
Speaker 2: But that's easy. This should not be easy.
Speaker 1: This should be we turned over every stone to make
sure we had the right person. You've got time, it is,
I feel like you because today's Halloween. I looked at
my watch up today it is October thirty. First, you've
got some time. Put that time to use. Get a president,
figure out who the athletic director going to be. Hell,
figure out who's going to hire this coach. Is it
going to be the board of supervisors? Is how much
is the governor going to be involved? Is a board
of supervisors going to put together a committee? Figure that
out as well, which I'm sure they are right now.
And by the way, Flynn and Hester put us on
the committee and move forward together. Figure it out together,
get a plan together, and do your job, do some work,
figure out who they is.
Speaker 2: It's a great point that you make.
Speaker 1: It's easy to call Dan Lanning hey man, fourteen million
a years sound great?
Speaker 4: All right, cool, I'm a new president law. If he
didn't work out, you can't blame me.
Speaker 2: Everybody. Everybody would have taken him. Yeah, that was the
right pick. Right.
Speaker 1: Look, you're at a crossroads right now, and I think
there's a list of ten guys, and hell, we could
do it today. I can give you ten guys that
you should talk to and you should have a conversation with.
And it can be in person conversation, a little more
in debt if they seriously are the final three or
whatever it might be. But have those conversations. You've got time,
get aligned and figure it out.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: And yeah, when when we come back from break, I
want to ask you about your opinions on somebody that's
really popular right now. I see it all over my
Twitter feed. A guy that we played with, yep, a
guy that is calling some x's and o's, a little
defense up there in the NFL YEP in the Great North.
Speaker 2: I want to ask your opinion on that, all right.
Speaker 1: I actually got a endorsement for that person at five
o'clock this morning. Yeah, we'll talk about it and we'll
continue to talk candidates for the LSU job.
Speaker 2: Again, no game for LSU this weekend.
Speaker 1: Probably more in our number three when we're you know,
giving you what's the ticket, we're giving you our pontoon parlay.
Maybe we get more into all the games going on
across the country. More OTB Live when we come back
here from rouses On Bourbon.
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Speaker 1: Locked in ULSU football twenty four to seven, you're listening
to Off the Bench.
Speaker 2: Mike Check. Hello, Hey, we're back.
Speaker 1: Sorry, we're just doing talking ball during the break here, okay, lay.
Speaker 2: Off talking of ball. Hey Halloween that it is, dear
happy Halloween. Y'all got some big plans.
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, you're dang right, I do.
Speaker 2: You're dang right. I've got a.
Speaker 1: District showdown between Madison Prep and the University Lab School
Cubs seven o'clock over at Jeff Bossfield, a cup complex.
That's what I've got tonight. Ma Prep, Madison Prep versus
you High Let's go, Cubs, Let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 2: It's pink out game. What is okay?
Speaker 4: What movie does Madison Prep remind you of from the nineties?
Speaker 2: Madison Prep? Yep, movie from the nineties. I don't know,
Major Pain. Do you remember that movie pre okay? And
they had the Army Games where the My dad loved
that movie. Yeah, the R O. T. C. Like they
have they had those games. Yeah, what a good movie.
Great movie. A little kid's name was Tiger. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The way your brain works is fascinating.
Speaker 2: Thank you. You should be studied. Thank you.
Speaker 4: I should be studied. You should be studied. God, what
a great movie. I've seen that a long time.
Speaker 1: That Tayler says Virginia Military Game, so he's obviously a
fan as well.
Speaker 2: Great movie, Madison Prep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now this one's in in Baton Rouge. Yeah, all right,
Dune Street.
Speaker 4: So you're not playing the Virginia Nope, military not this week?
Speaker 2: Okay, not this week? All right? So how do you
so it's a big, big game, like how do you
trick or treat? Uh?
Speaker 1: So, So Katie's taking Memphis, Hudson and Knox uh to
trick or treat earlier. All right, I'm going to set
up because like I need to see pregame warm ups,
you know what I'm saying, Like I need I need
to have like a second ten second conversation with Jackson
right before the game, reminding him to set his jaw
and get.
Speaker 2: Ready to play. Yep. So like I like to see that.
Speaker 1: So I think they're all gonna just go tricker treat early,
and then high tail it to Complex to watch the game,
because you know, you get you know, Harlowe obviously Halloween
probably the first time that she's going to you know,
be able to walk around and to hold deal by
yourself and so.
Speaker 4: Gotta do it. So you got some good costumes. What's
I don't care about everybody else. What's what's Harlowe doing?
What's she dressed up as?
Speaker 2: Uh? I would you get a princess?
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean we've been to do that before,
you know, So that's what it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, it's like kids costumes, just just
like hey, what are you? And then like Hudson's going
to be like a penguin. He's got this penguin costume.
And you ask Memphis Hey, what are you going to be?
He's just like six things kind of put together that
he found in the costume drawer. Sure, going to go
like of your kiddos.
Speaker 2: I bet hugs got a good one. Yeah. This year,
it's he's doing.
Speaker 4: He's getting a little bit more aggressive. He just turned ten,
so he's starting to get a little bit more aggressive.
Speaker 2: He's going to be the Grim Reaper. Okay.
Speaker 4: And he's got like a mask that I think has
like some like led lights on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so it's a little bit.
Speaker 4: They've never really done anything scary or try, like, you know,
attempt to be kind of scary. So yeah, he's got
that going on. And I can't remember. You know, it's
gonna be some good ones. But that just showed you
the break. But should we do, you'll want to see
my costume right now?
Speaker 2: Sure, bud? Okay, this is okay. This is from Instagram
ads last year. Check this out.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, why do I not hear myself either?
Speaker 2: Oh there we go.
Speaker 1: You hit buttons? See when you look like an idiot?
You hit the button to turn my microphone off as well? Uh,
like Muso said, don't go into a bank today with
that up. Not be good not be a good situation
for you. And I also can't believe that that Instagram
ad got you on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it got me. But it's also pretty high quality. Okay,
obviously clearly y'all see that. Just it's the hood tipped
it right up. Look, thanks skeleton Face. I was pretty
excited when I saw it, and I got it.
Speaker 1: I can tell you've been excited to show it. That's
now twice in about three minutes.
Speaker 4: I know, well, you know, I forget that. I have
it until Halloween. Tell my word all day. We're tonight.
We got a little trigger treat. We got a little
neighborhood a hood party.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be exciting, a little outdoor situation. Okay, everyone
bring in some treats. Everyone bringing some food. I guess
you don't.
Speaker 1: You know you don't want to come watch some great
high school football. This guy's not a real ball guy.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I forgot. We had some plans yesterday,
but I'm not. I can't get into the Thursday night
high school football. Always forget about it, like last night. Yeah,
you're asking us about played Episcopal. Yeah, and we we
love to go to the games, but they've played so
many Thursday night games this year, Like I always forget
it's on Thursday. Who's ready for a high schoo football
game on Thursday? I think it called Thursday Night Lights.
It's fair about the name of the show or the movie.
Speaker 2: It's fair. Stop playing them on Thursdays. I do enjoy
Thursday night games.
Speaker 1: For you high you can keep playing those because that
means when I traveled to call LSU games, I don't
miss my son's game or have to drive myself to
any of these locations, and so you can continue to
play Thursday games with some Fridays sprinkled in. No, I
didn't play Thursday games in high school now Texas.
Speaker 2: Hell, No, are you kidding?
Speaker 1: It's so good of a product you can't do it
on Thursday nights.
Speaker 2: No, that's for j that's freshman jab Monday nights here.
Speaker 1: So I know in shrefor growing up, they did Thursday
night games because of stadium access. So there was a
couple of stadiums that multiple schools use. Not everybody had
their own stadium like we had ours at evangel but
uh like Southwood and and Bird and Captain Shreeve and
fair Park and Huntington like they all shared multiple stadiums,
so that was why they're.
Speaker 2: Multiple teams, Like more than two teams share a stadium
in different places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just got to like try to find a
way to get everybody a game time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Dunham and Episcopal they have their own stadium.
That's I tried. I tried. You're right, You're right, I
get it on those occasions.
Speaker 4: Great, we shared a stadium and in Tyler, Texas with
our crosstown rivals, but you get what.
Speaker 2: You and John Tyler's share stadium.
Speaker 4: Yeah still yeah, yeah, Rose Stadium, Yeah, Tyler, the Rose
Capital of the world, Tyler Rose, Rose Stadium, Campbell.
Speaker 2: We get it.
Speaker 4: But you know what, like before the season, you know
that both of the people that ran the schedules.
Speaker 2: Were like, Hey, I got an idea.
Speaker 4: Y'all play at home, and when y'all play at home,
we'll play away and then the next week we'll just switch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well just figure that out. I got you, so
you can keep it on Fridays. I got you, I
got you.
Speaker 1: Survived six two three says Evangel played at LCA last
night in Lafayette. So Angel did play on Thursday night.
There you go.
Speaker 2: Good, great, keep coming let's play you Wednesday. Fair Park
had its own stadium. Fairgrounds was our home stadium.
Speaker 1: It was for a little bit, but because fair Parks
right across the street from Independent Stadium. But they also
shared that with like Southwood and Huntington and all those
other schools, and then Bird and Captain Shreeve shared lee
hedges and so it's a lot of sharing going on.
Speaker 2: I go south there.
Speaker 4: The chat says Louisiana moved to a ton of games
on Thursday and Saturday due to major shortage of referees.
Speaker 1: This Saturday Saturday games that that doesn't feel I didn't
feel right. I just ain't right.
Speaker 4: So people go get your go, get your Sieber stripes on,
and let's get some more refs out there. Yeah, people
don't want to be playing on Thursday nights except for Jacob.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just selfishly though, just so I can watch my
son play.
Speaker 2: God, what a bad guy am.
Speaker 4: We got to hire a president, an ad, a coach,
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Speaker 2: What we're doing, we're doing here in Louisiana, not a
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Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven, you're
listening to Off the Bench. All right, welcome back in
It is OTV here live from Rouses on Burbank and Lee.
Speaker 2: Alright, Matthew Clayton Flynn.
Speaker 1: You tease something, and before you see another squirrel, I'm
going to throw it to you to talk about what
you teased.
Speaker 4: There's a good there's a good question. Way to keep
me on track because I was actually just about to
talk about the movie Saul. Okay, So we talked about
we're talking about head coaching jobs. A lot of speculation,
but a lot of name that I keep seeing popping
across my Twitter feed, the socials every time, and I
see anybody they always wanted to talk about and ask about.
Kelvin Shepard, of course, the defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions,
played linebacker here. Lsu was a great Tiger, a really
good professional linebacker play with both of us.
Speaker 2: Love Shep.
Speaker 4: He's amazing dad, a war an absolute war daddy. And
of course kind of popped on the scene as a coach.
And was it hard knocks where he popped on the
scene because they had the like the not a hidden
camera because they know it's there, but the.
Speaker 2: Camera in the linebacker meeting room.
Speaker 4: And him just the way he was communicating with his players,
just tough, nasty and formative, knew how to talk to
his players. All the things you want from a coach
right there. And the energy that he's shown, like I
think he had a really good Who were they playing
primetime game Chicago two week Yeah, Chicago. I think it
was a Thursday night game. Yeah, it was a prime
It was Thursday, Sunday or Monday night. I can't remember
which one it was, but the way they played defense
and shut him down, absolutely shut him down. And of
course Kevin Shepard was getting a lot of the credit
as he should be on the sidelines, so that kind
of just threw him again into the spotlight. And of
course that spotlight happened right before this Brian Kelly stuff.
So I want to ask you, Kelvin Shepard, is he
going to be a realistic target for them to interview.
Speaker 2: I definitely think you talked to him, yeah, without question.
Speaker 1: And I know he's, you know, only been a defense
coordinator for one year, and I know there's some pushback
on that. Look Shep, and he said it yesterday in
a press conference, like he he loves lsh as much
as anything.
Speaker 2: He's like you, if you cut me open, I'm.
Speaker 1: A liger, half lion, half tiger, right, And yeah, you
have that conversation. I think so, because look, what you
just did didn't work, and if you're looking to think
outside the box, go a different direction. I think Shep
is somebody obviously that you have to have that conversation with.
And I got this message at five oh four this morning.
Somebody that's in the building in Detroit. I think you
would do a really good job as a head coach
if he called the defense and had you know, some
coordinators around him on offense. He's done a really nice
job of growing and understanding the strengths and weaknesses of
the players. He is best in front of a room,
great command, and he has the ability to get into
players you know what, and not have them.
Speaker 2: Pout or fold.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you saw that on hard knocks as well.
So he's saying, like you know, when he's saying coordinators
and explorer, like there's only one. I think that person
is saying, you go get a bad as offensive coordinator
and get analysts on his staff that have also been
offensive coordinators. Let shep call the defense, which is not crazy.
I mean Clark Lee did to Vanderbilt last year.
Speaker 4: And another like when you went with the new head
coach like that as well, like something that hadn't done
it and that also wants to kind of call plays.
You also have a coordinator that it doesn't even really
get the title. But we've talked about it early in
the season with Nick Underhill talking about killing Moore, like
is there somebody there that's like the game management coordinator?
Because it's not always like up to coaches on you know,
it's ultimately it's up to them, but it's not always
the head coach that's the side and when to call
a time out, when to throw a challenge flag, when
to like the time the clock management. Sometimes it is
sometimes a coach wants all that on him, but other
teams it's there's a guy that all his job is
to do is work out every single clock scenario you
can think of throughout the week and come up with
every single situation what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Of course gets you approval from the head.
Speaker 4: Coach and all that stuff, but it's like, all right, coach,
you got to call time out, you got a clock,
you gotta do this, or got to do that. So
I think in a situation like that, if if what
he's saying, a Kevine became a head coach and wanted
to call plays first time being a head coach, like
all those things matter, your good support staff around you
like that. But I don't think there's any question that
that man can stand in front of a team and
get the most.
Speaker 2: Out of them.
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