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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Hey guys, and welcome to where are we at?

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<v Speaker 1>Episode thirty five. I have such a hard time with counting,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, especially past twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, once you run out of fingers and toes,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're called twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're like twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got six fingers and six toes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, what does that saying about you?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I got five.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a.

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<v Speaker 2>Muty okay nerd Yeah, I guess I am. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we did an amazingly fun and crazy thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This was super fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed it, but my feet got tired. I got

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<v Speaker 2>a little cold, have to say. It was a little

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<v Speaker 2>nippy out. But anyway, we're jumping ahead of the gun.

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<v Speaker 2>What did we do, Austin?

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<v Speaker 1>We went to Well, we talked about it. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not let's not build any substense because well.

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<v Speaker 2>People might already listen to the previous episode, so they

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<v Speaker 2>might not know.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you who didn't listen to our last episode,

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<v Speaker 1>stop and catch up. Stop, break it down and listen,

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<v Speaker 1>break it down? Is it collaborate? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Stop? Collaborate and listen? This is back with the brand

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<v Speaker 1>new evench and something for the hold of Me Tightly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay of that. But yeah, we went somewhere. We

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<v Speaker 2>went somewhere and we talked about that we were going

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<v Speaker 2>in our last episode. It was kind of like laying

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<v Speaker 2>the bedrock, is what I said, the foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>The foundation. Oh yeah, because we went to old Idaho

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<v Speaker 1>State Penitentiary. That's a prison for those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand larger words. Yeah, and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Reason they say old is because it's no longer in service.

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<v Speaker 1>And old it's not a big word. I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, it's okay with it. But it's been closed

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<v Speaker 2>for since nineteen seventy two. It became a National Historical

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<v Speaker 2>building and they have a Preservation since Society that actually

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<v Speaker 2>has an office right there on the penitentiary campus and

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<v Speaker 2>they sell souvenirs and they have tours and you can

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<v Speaker 2>go through and it's left in a state like it

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<v Speaker 2>was when they closed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was pretty surprised. So we went in there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk more about what we did, but we walked

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<v Speaker 1>around all over, Yeah, and I was surprised. They were

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<v Speaker 1>like cans of like borax or whatever kind of soap

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<v Speaker 1>comet powder, cans in the corners, just caked in dust

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<v Speaker 1>like they'd been there. Like some guard got poop on him,

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<v Speaker 1>washed his arms and hands off, and then threw the

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<v Speaker 1>bottle in the corner and just left it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they left it intentionally as it was. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of the cells you could tell they really hadn't been

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<v Speaker 2>cleaned or anything, and they had some riots. So some

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<v Speaker 2>of them were burned.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, completely burned.

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<v Speaker 2>And some of them, you know, like in some of

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<v Speaker 2>the places you go and there'd be art on the

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<v Speaker 2>walls that the inmates drew.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, lots of art. I was pretty impressive. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them were actually three dimensional, you know, they had like

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<v Speaker 1>a side profile of a person. And it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>They were done really well.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was really creepy because we were part of

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<v Speaker 2>an investigation team being led by a group of paranormal

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<v Speaker 2>investigators called Big River Paranormal And we met there at

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<v Speaker 2>nine fifteen in the evening and we were there till

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<v Speaker 2>what two three in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was pretty late.

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<v Speaker 2>And you go through the entire place and the lights

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<v Speaker 2>are off, so it's dark. There's some yard lights and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. That's that's all out in the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the main courtyards, but as far as the buildings themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>they're totally dark except for maybe some moonlight or some

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yard lights coming through the windows.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we had flashlights and stuff and yeah, like recorders.

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<v Speaker 1>We brought recorders. The guy had like an MF detector

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<v Speaker 1>and they we actually they had EVP recorders, and we

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<v Speaker 1>went by like a station that senses like electro I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the technical study maybe or like it

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<v Speaker 1>basically senses motion and makes a bright light when motion

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<v Speaker 1>goes across it.

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<v Speaker 2>So we saw it at some geeky paranormal investigator. It

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<v Speaker 2>came up with like a whole table of all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of equipment and he had like on this board. It

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<v Speaker 2>looked kind of looked like a soundboard, like if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a musician.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go talk to him, but yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about this thing and you know one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So we get there and they knew we were coming,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they joined us with a group of investigators

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<v Speaker 2>that were kind of I guess you could say they

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<v Speaker 2>were very experienced seasoned. Yeah, they do it regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of their hoppy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so a shout out to Matt and Daniel Daniel, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they were really Mike. No, it was Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>You're Mike. I'm Mike, I'm Dan, You're Austin. I'm so confused.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it was very confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>But Matt and Daniel had gone on quite a few

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<v Speaker 2>of these and you could tell they were really into it.

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<v Speaker 2>They had some good equipment and they were really eager

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of share their adventures and some of their experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll get them on sometime.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, shout out yeah yea and Dan salute. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But our leader of our group was actually very nice

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<v Speaker 2>to Her name was Kim.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim and I remember Kim Marie.

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<v Speaker 2>Came in when we were in one of the buildings,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the name of the building, and she

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<v Speaker 2>kind of told a couple of her experiences, and I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that was kind of cool. So you gotta kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get the picture of what's going on here. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna put some of the videos that we took

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<v Speaker 2>on our YouTube channel. So go to our website and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put a link to that and you can see

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<v Speaker 2>what these places actually look like. They're nothing fancy. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't have fancy cameras. And stuff, so don't expect too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody with a phone nowadays has a fancy camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what we used, your phone, But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at night you can't see a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of weird because we were recording with

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<v Speaker 1>our phones and then there's so much dust in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and at night when it's dart those particles, there's particles

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<v Speaker 1>floating around, so it made a real eerie. Yeah, even

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<v Speaker 1>in the flashlight, you could just see big blurs of

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<v Speaker 1>dust and stuff floating around here.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept thinking, I wonder if that's like asbestos.

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<v Speaker 1>It mind it been.

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<v Speaker 2>But we were wearing masks because you had to, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an interesting place, and like we said, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a paranormal investigation adventure. So the whole idea is

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<v Speaker 2>to make contact with some kind of spirit or being

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<v Speaker 2>from the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And if you listen to our last episode, some

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<v Speaker 1>of those spirits are beings are a little bit nefarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Great nefarious. We talked about probably the most famous inmate

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<v Speaker 2>that was actually executed.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have happened with him.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what's really strange is a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the paranormal investigators that go there like ghost hunters and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, they are always trying to make contact

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<v Speaker 2>with this Snowden character. And the reason is because he's

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<v Speaker 2>he was a bad guy. He killed a lady, stabbed

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<v Speaker 2>her twenty nine times after sliving. Yeah, bad thing. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to hear that story, it's in our

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<v Speaker 2>previous podcast, YEP, which is episode thirty four The Folk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, before we get really into the specifics

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<v Speaker 2>of our investigation, let's talk a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 2>process because it was interesting. We've never done this before

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<v Speaker 2>in a formal way. I mean, we've gone out and

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<v Speaker 2>went to Miller's Gate and we went to the Gooding

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<v Speaker 2>Tuberculosis Hospital, but we didn't really investigate like the way

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<v Speaker 2>that like professional paranormal investigators investigate.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's start from the top. So we showed

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<v Speaker 1>up at your house at about eight o'clock, about eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight fifteen somewhere. The taco bell ran a little late,

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<v Speaker 1>so some of us were a little late.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which we should say. We had a guest with us,

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<v Speaker 2>We had Dave with us.

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<v Speaker 1>So we pull up to your house. We all hop out.

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<v Speaker 1>I rode my motorcycle because I'm super dope. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we came into your house. We did an id L.

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<v Speaker 2>An investigation destination libation YEP as a team, as a kickoff,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like we normally do when we do a

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<v Speaker 2>new investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we hopped into the little tiny IDV, the

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<v Speaker 1>little toaster car. Yeah, toast sign on XB.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We put the magnet stickers on the door so people

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<v Speaker 2>could know that we.

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<v Speaker 1>Were official, and we cruised on down to the Old

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<v Speaker 1>Eyed Host State Penitentiary.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's kind of a fun little drive. You

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<v Speaker 2>go down this little road called Warm Springs Road, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are like all these mansions there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about mansions, well, some bigger mansion, biggerhouses. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And we pull up and we get out, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>what maybe forty fifty people lounging around on the outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the entrance to the Old State Penitentiary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say like thirty to fifty, thirty to fIF I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there were one hundred. I didn't say hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>What'd you say, forty to fifty? Oh yeah, you were right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when we got there, there was probably maybe twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>but by time we accumulate, by the time we went in,

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<v Speaker 2>it was probably maybe forty to fifty people. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty cool though, because when we got there,

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<v Speaker 2>the lead person for Big River Paranormal came out and said,

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<v Speaker 2>is Mike and Austin here, we are here, man, We're like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're over here.

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<v Speaker 1>And they go, Okay, we're gonna put you in a

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<v Speaker 1>special group. You're gonna go last. I don't know about special,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean special special she did.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, I'm going to put you in a special

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<v Speaker 2>group and you're gonna go last with Kim. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's because Kim's really awesome or because

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<v Speaker 2>they were hoping that they would scare all the ghosts

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<v Speaker 2>away before we before to go there in the last group. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but what they did is they divided all the people

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<v Speaker 2>up into five teams, and so every group would go

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<v Speaker 2>to one of the buildings to start the night, and

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<v Speaker 2>then like every fifty minutes they would change and go to.

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<v Speaker 1>Another musical chairs thing going on exactly. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I thought was really cool when we pulled up

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<v Speaker 1>and it comes back around full so cool. But we

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<v Speaker 1>pulled up, we got out, we started walking that direction

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<v Speaker 1>towards the group, the front door area. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>look up and I see this big owl. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go flying over us. And I was like, wow, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an owl. Owls are mystical. There is a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>symbology without symbolism. Yeah, symbology is the study of symbols.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I like, have you ever seen Boutondox Saints.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm a hack. I can say symbology. I can

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then I am the guy from Budendox Saints, and

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<v Speaker 2>Symbolism, symbolism, Okay, so yeah, okay, Owls have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect, Okay. Anyway, people who have seen Boutondox Saints know

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<v Speaker 2>You, So, so what is the symbolism of an owl?

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<v Speaker 2>What does an owl symbolize?

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of like magical? Are you sure? Give me a second?

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<v Speaker 1>Because because I've seen the Labyrinth him, aren't you you're

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah, go back to your room, play with yours and

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<v Speaker 1>And David Bowie comes as an owl? Oh he turns.

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<v Speaker 1>They're kind of like mystical, and I think that the

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<v Speaker 2>I think we need more official information. Hey, what does

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<v Speaker 2>an owl symbolize?

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<v Speaker 3>On the website worldbirds dot org, they say, while some

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<v Speaker 3>cultures believe vowels to be magicians or heralds of death,

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<v Speaker 3>the white owl symbolizes wisdom and endurance.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want a little more context?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Please? Wisdom and death. Bro, you screwed up Google.

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<v Speaker 3>According to Wikipedia, death row, also known as condemned roe,

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<v Speaker 1>Totally deil, I know, but it was on top of it,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, how serious? That was pretty cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what does an owl symbolize?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want a little more context? Yes, owl symbolism

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<v Speaker 3>and meaning. Owls are generally as simple of paranormal wisdom,

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<v Speaker 3>regal silence, and fierce intelligence. While some cultures believe owls

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<v Speaker 3>to be magicians or heralds of death, the white owl

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<v Speaker 3>symbolizes wisdom and endurance. The mixed symology makes us curious

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<v Speaker 1>She said symbology. She did not, She said the mixed

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<v Speaker 1>symbology symbolism. Symbology is a word. It is a word.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a study of symbolism. You don't say, what's your psychology?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you let me ask Google?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, what does symbology mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Symbology is used as a noun to mean the study

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<v Speaker 3>or use of symbols, as in the unschooled relied heavily

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<v Speaker 3>on symbology.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want to hear how symbology is felled?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Thank you? Berdo Saints.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sorry, I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, stop, okay, yeah, what's happening? Okay, let's quit talking

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<v Speaker 2>about an owl? We saw an owl.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cool and it could mean some paranormal kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, paranormal symbolism or death.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, that's a good started out.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, we got our teams. We met Daniel and Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we met our leader who was going to lead

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<v Speaker 2>our group. How many people guide? How many people were

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<v Speaker 2>in our group?

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<v Speaker 1>I think we had you, me, Dave, Matt, Matt, and Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Kimberly.

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<v Speaker 2>There was the one lady and then the chair that

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yep, and then two other ladies. Yeah. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>catch their name. I didn't catch their names either. Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>They were kind of quiet, yeah, they were, although they

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<v Speaker 1>talked more than we did. They talked amongst themselves a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more. I only said one thing, and I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like a douchebag afterwards. What did you say? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to spoil our future. Oh is that where

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<v Speaker 1>you They kind of got them in trouble. No, no, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that later. That was funny. Everybody giggled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kind of got people in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>So we all got in our.

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<v Speaker 2>Groups and marched through, and they basically told us the rules,

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<v Speaker 2>which are, you know, be respectful of other people. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>to make up something they talked about when you walked

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<v Speaker 2>to just walk normal. Don't try to take really quiet

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<v Speaker 2>steps because they want to be able to when they

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the recordings afterwards that they can distinguish footsteps

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<v Speaker 2>from something else.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't and don't whisper is your full voice? And

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you do something like burp fart, step

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<v Speaker 1>on a wood plank like David and I did for

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<v Speaker 1>like forty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you're trying to do it slow.

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<v Speaker 1>If you step on something that makes a noise, be

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<v Speaker 1>like sorry, what do they say? They said?

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<v Speaker 2>Tag?

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<v Speaker 4>Tag?

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<v Speaker 1>That was me on the plank or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Tag that was my stomach gurgling, tag that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was tag outside airplane, firework, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And that gave the people that we're going to review

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<v Speaker 2>the tape later, you know, they knew that something else

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<v Speaker 1>Which will be available about the Timeless episode, Yeah, about

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm thinking in one of our open Mic

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<v Speaker 2>and Austin episodes we'll maybe review some of those recordings

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, fall something like.

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<v Speaker 2>And just so our listeners though, we are actually thinking

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really want to do it again. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be fun. And we now we got this advantage

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<v Speaker 1>and now we know what to expect. Ye, and we

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<v Speaker 1>very windy, little abnormally windy.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a lot of noise going on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and which which is myself which later we should actually

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<v Speaker 2>tell that story because it wasn't that the first building

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<v Speaker 2>we went to also.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing I ever said around people.

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<v Speaker 2>So we get in our groups and everybody goes off.

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<v Speaker 2>They scuttle off to their building where they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>start the investigations, and like we said, the buildings are dark.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not lit, there's no lights on. You go in

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<v Speaker 2>and it's dark. Well, the first one we went to

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<v Speaker 2>was the like the washing room yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the washing room was pretty sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's where you and Dave climbed up those

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<v Speaker 2>creaky stills to look in the shower area.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll give it around that. And you walk into

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<v Speaker 1>the washroom and a lot of it's fenced off because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of old equipment they would use to

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<v Speaker 1>wash clothes back in you know, nineteen forty, probably forty

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, thirties whatever, And you can go all

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<v Speaker 1>the way around the back of the washroom and you

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<v Speaker 1>can look into like the shower area communal shower, which

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<v Speaker 1>was walled off so it was super dark. So Dave

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<v Speaker 1>and I were kind of drawn to that area because

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<v Speaker 1>it's darker and more creepy, and we were like, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's about as far away from the entrance as

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<v Speaker 2>you can get yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's like a three step platform to get up

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<v Speaker 1>to the level so you can peak through this window

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<v Speaker 1>into the shower shower. Yeah, so Dave and I go

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<v Speaker 1>over there. Everybody's talking, no big deal, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>had some quiet time before that, I guess. So quiet

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<v Speaker 1>time's over, we step up onto this scene. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of listening and people are like asking questions, are

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<v Speaker 1>you here with us? You know, typical ghosts trended question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the same thing you would see on like ghost Hunters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And Dave and I are on the creakiest set

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<v Speaker 1>of stairs ever. It's pitch and dark, and Kim and

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<v Speaker 1>I are looking at each other like just staring like well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's like my foot getting tired, and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, And you know, because we were so new, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to draw attention to yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know the rules yet.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's the first experience you have as a

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<v Speaker 2>paranormal investigator, and there you are making this noise and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know what to say. You say, tag, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>tag me on stairs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm squeaky. Yeah. It was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's go back a little bit about the process

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<v Speaker 2>once you get to a building.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say we walk into Building one, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk into Building one and lights are off, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of creepy because you kind of got to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feel your way around through this maze.

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<v Speaker 1>Of equipment with some handrails, you don't have to like

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<v Speaker 1>grab some chainsaws.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the lady, our leader, Kim, she did

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<v Speaker 2>like China. She had a red light and she would

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<v Speaker 2>chine it on the ground so you could kind of see.

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<v Speaker 2>But once you got in there, she said, Okay, now

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to do five minutes of silence, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to start out trying to be as still

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<v Speaker 2>as you can be and as quiet as you can

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<v Speaker 2>be for five minutes and just listen.

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<v Speaker 1>And it sounded a lot like this, Hello, darkness, my friend. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it sounded a lot more like this, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>the wind was blowing and things are rattling and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which made it I think tough to kind of separate

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<v Speaker 2>maybe something that was paranormal from something that was totally nai.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were a bit more what's the word into it. No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>You could hear a sound and be like that was

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<v Speaker 1>a ghost, or you could be like, oh, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the wind. And they were a little more on the

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<v Speaker 1>wind side.

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<v Speaker 2>They definitely were waiting for They were skeptical. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is one thing I really appreciated about Big River Normal.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't trying to sensationalize anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's a good way to put it. They

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<v Speaker 1>weren't sensationalizing anything. If they heard a noise that was

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<v Speaker 1>like bing bang kind of over by the door, they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, that was probably the one win. Yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>just move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they'd say tag probably the wind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it was interesting to me because that

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<v Speaker 2>is totally the opposite of what you find on a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ghost hunting shows.

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<v Speaker 1>At least what we see on Ghost of Me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe I think a lot of maybe like

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<v Speaker 2>individual like YouTubers that go out I don't maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that, but you've got to get ratings. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're on like the Discovery Channel, you need to get ratings, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're not doing things and finding things, then

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to get people to continue watching exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think that gets to their head. I

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<v Speaker 1>think so.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know they're probably a little prone to hear

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<v Speaker 2>and see everything when there isn't really anything there.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a little uh confirmation biased, Yeah, they embellished maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but Big River Paranormal.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not see that one Scotia a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you did, you know, see it for a second.

429
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<v Speaker 1>Like I'll mention later, they were very quick to acknowledge

430
00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:09.319
<v Speaker 1>what you were thinking, and they all came to a

431
00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:12.880
<v Speaker 1>conclusion that, yeah, was probably this factor that made that noise.

432
00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, and you know one thing about it, because you're

433
00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you're like a guy who builds things, right, so you

434
00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:19.160
<v Speaker 2>have a very.

435
00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Logical, very mechanical mind.

436
00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then I'm probably a little more on the

437
00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:28.200
<v Speaker 2>creative side. So but I am still very logical. I've

438
00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:30.279
<v Speaker 2>experienced a lot of things in life, so I don't

439
00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:32.599
<v Speaker 2>just believe crap just because I want to believe it,

440
00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:34.279
<v Speaker 2>because I don't even know what I want to believe.

441
00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I just want to believe the right thing, you know.

442
00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:39.920
<v Speaker 2>So when we went through this, I think we were

443
00:20:40.079 --> 00:20:43.240
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily skeptical. We were open to hear and to

444
00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:49.319
<v Speaker 2>believe and experience stuff, but we were not overly trying

445
00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:53.960
<v Speaker 2>to like make everything a paranormal event like I think

446
00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Matt and Daniel. I think they were probably a little

447
00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:59.519
<v Speaker 2>more apt to believe stuff than maybe we were at

448
00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:02.839
<v Speaker 2>the time, because they've gone on enough things and had

449
00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:07.119
<v Speaker 2>enough experiences that they they could associate things and noises

450
00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:09.960
<v Speaker 2>with stuff they caught stuff on EVP.

451
00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Or they've heard, they've heard previous experiences that make them

452
00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:16.680
<v Speaker 1>more open, like to believe Matt and Daniel have had

453
00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:20.079
<v Speaker 1>all these examples of things that have happened, where Dad

454
00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:23.559
<v Speaker 1>and I have had very little, I mean, nothing really

455
00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:25.799
<v Speaker 1>ghosty in my life.

456
00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:25.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

457
00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I mean we went to these places

458
00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:32.440
<v Speaker 2>to experience stuff, and we hear stories of people experiencing stuff,

459
00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:36.240
<v Speaker 2>but our experiencing of stuff is very minimal, right, I

460
00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:40.200
<v Speaker 2>mean when we went to the Gooding Tuberculosis Hospital, I

461
00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:45.519
<v Speaker 2>didn't experience anything that was conclusively paranormal. Same with Milner's Gate.

462
00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:49.480
<v Speaker 2>So it's different for us, but we had lots of

463
00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:50.599
<v Speaker 2>experiences exactly.

464
00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:53.920
<v Speaker 1>So like with l hunting, I've been out in the

465
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<v Speaker 1>woods a couple of days. We've heard bugles, We've heard

466
00:21:57.240 --> 00:21:59.440
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of stuff, and then you hear a squirrel

467
00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.720
<v Speaker 1>drop us a pine cone. You know, you hear that

468
00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, man, that sounds a lot like a

469
00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:08.240
<v Speaker 1>breaking stick. And you hear these noises you hear maybe

470
00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:11.720
<v Speaker 1>like a wind whistling, like is that a bugle away? Off?

471
00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:15.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're very hyper aware because you know that

472
00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:18.680
<v Speaker 1>those things are in that area and there's something that

473
00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.319
<v Speaker 1>can happen. Right, So if you took somebody who was

474
00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:27.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe not so in tuned to that area and you

475
00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:30.559
<v Speaker 1>they haven't seen elk, they haven't heard the bugle, they

476
00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:35.480
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard an elk break a stick as a squirrel. Yeah,

477
00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:39.079
<v Speaker 1>that was the wind. Because your brain is like elk, elk, elk,

478
00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:41.920
<v Speaker 1>elk elk, and then their brain is like, there's no

479
00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:42.880
<v Speaker 1>such thing as elk.

480
00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:46.400
<v Speaker 2>So you know, so sometimes that unexperienced brain, like ours,

481
00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:50.359
<v Speaker 2>our hack brain, I think is sometimes.

482
00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:54.279
<v Speaker 1>An advantage occasionally, Yeah, and because so a disadvantage.

483
00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe, because we're maybe a little more skeptical. But

484
00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:58.799
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, I think it's a good equilibrium.

485
00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:01.720
<v Speaker 2>And that's one thing I appreciated it about Big Paranormal

486
00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:05.559
<v Speaker 2>is that they they want people to experience, and they

487
00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:07.640
<v Speaker 2>don't want people just to believe. They want to They

488
00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.079
<v Speaker 2>want the criticism along with the people that believe. And

489
00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was really well done.

490
00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:15.839
<v Speaker 1>It was really well done. Yeah, So okay, let's keep going.

491
00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:19.200
<v Speaker 2>So we get to that first building, we do our

492
00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:23.440
<v Speaker 2>quiet time, and then after the quiet time, you know,

493
00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.519
<v Speaker 2>you're free to talk and to maybe turn your flashlight

494
00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.000
<v Speaker 2>on and look around a little bit. And that they

495
00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:32.319
<v Speaker 2>said that sometimes during those moments after the quiet time,

496
00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:35.359
<v Speaker 2>when you're just talking, it's almost like it gives freedom

497
00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:40.880
<v Speaker 2>for paranormal entities to interact or the energy that you're

498
00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:45.200
<v Speaker 2>bringing and stimulate something and maybe you don't hear it,

499
00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:47.480
<v Speaker 2>but later a lot of times when they're listening to

500
00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:52.839
<v Speaker 2>the recorded EVP, they will catch voices and stuff that

501
00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:56.839
<v Speaker 2>you do not hear when you're there talking or whatever.

502
00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:00.359
<v Speaker 2>And so Kim and some of the other people's started

503
00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:04.359
<v Speaker 2>asking questions. I know Matt brought a baseball and he

504
00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:06.160
<v Speaker 2>was always say, hey, I brought a baseball.

505
00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to play baseball? Yeah? And I'll bring

506
00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>in some positivity.

507
00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Right And they would say, you know, is anybody here,

508
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:16.160
<v Speaker 2>and they'd be very respectful, like saying, we don't want

509
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:18.839
<v Speaker 2>to scare you or we're not trying to invade your space.

510
00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:21.599
<v Speaker 2>We just want to know if you're hear can you

511
00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:23.200
<v Speaker 2>give us a sign YEP.

512
00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:25.920
<v Speaker 1>It's hard because in my brain I'm like, come on,

513
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:28.079
<v Speaker 1>you big sissy. Ye, let's see what you got.

514
00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh a big tough guy.

515
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:30.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go to prison because I stabbed a

516
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.559
<v Speaker 1>lady twenty nine times? Oh what's that little one hundred

517
00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:35.079
<v Speaker 1>and ten pound girl going to do when you got

518
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a big old knife two hundred and five chicken if

519
00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>you're yeah, yeah, I wanted to like smack talk a

520
00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>little bit, but I was a little get him angry.

521
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:43.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, why don't you come punch me in the

522
00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:46.319
<v Speaker 1>face of little sissy. Yeah, they didn't do that.

523
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:48.720
<v Speaker 2>I you know that they were very respectful and then

524
00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:51.599
<v Speaker 2>when they left, they would, you know, basically say thank

525
00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:52.400
<v Speaker 2>you for your time.

526
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But in my brain, I'm like, yeah, why don't

527
00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you keep doing your time? You know?

528
00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Turd? Yeah, yeah, so I the same thing. It's like, okay,

529
00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:04.440
<v Speaker 2>so maybe the way to get them to manifest is

530
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>to just be belligerent and try to make them angry

531
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:17.359
<v Speaker 2>and then something friction going yours lawn, You're ignorant, disgusting, whattable,

532
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:23.279
<v Speaker 2>you foul not just a weak electoral chemical bonds.

533
00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:27.960
<v Speaker 4>I have seen some disgusting.

534
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Are these really spirits of people that have died

535
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:41.079
<v Speaker 2>that have not passed on or are these things counterfeits?

536
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Are they demons? Are the evil spirits that are are

537
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:49.160
<v Speaker 2>manifesting and pretending to be people that were.

538
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>There because they know that areas like hotspot or something.

539
00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Right and I know we talked in the last topics

540
00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:01.319
<v Speaker 2>that we did, we talked about these possible disembodied spirits

541
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:04.440
<v Speaker 2>that are looking for a home, right, and so you

542
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 2>know that was in my mind. It's like, Okay, are

543
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:10.319
<v Speaker 2>these human spirits or are these evil spirits? Or are

544
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:13.519
<v Speaker 2>they both the same? You know, what are these things

545
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:17.000
<v Speaker 2>if they're really real? But I was waiting. I was

546
00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>hoping that something in that first building would happen. There

547
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:23.039
<v Speaker 2>were like some noises and some bangs, but kind of,

548
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 2>like our leader said, like, you know, that's probably just

549
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the win.

550
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.079
<v Speaker 1>She often said, and that's where we kind of give

551
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:33.839
<v Speaker 1>them credits like tag wind outside, tag outside airplane. Right.

552
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, she's not just being like, oh I heard

553
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.519
<v Speaker 1>a ping pang, Oh that must be a ghost. Yeah,

554
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's she's really giving it an investigatory kind

555
00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of mindset. And I appreciated her.

556
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:47.400
<v Speaker 2>She was kind of lighthearted, like you know, she wasn't

557
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:52.160
<v Speaker 2>like overly dramatic and serious. She was talkative, and she

558
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:54.359
<v Speaker 2>engaged the people that were there. She tried to get

559
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.599
<v Speaker 2>people involved. She'd ask questions. I thought she did good job,

560
00:26:57.680 --> 00:26:59.519
<v Speaker 2>So shout out to Kim, good job.

561
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Good work. So let's go to the second belt second

562
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:03.319
<v Speaker 1>buildings where I look like a gouchebag.

563
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:05.519
<v Speaker 2>So the second building we go into is like this

564
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>main jail area.

565
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, i'd say four stories high. Yeah, prison cells, yeah,

566
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.759
<v Speaker 1>and they with ten cells wide, so forty cells on

567
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:20.200
<v Speaker 1>either side several sided's eighty cells in the same building.

568
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 1>And it's an old building. Yeah.

569
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:24.440
<v Speaker 2>And the paint's like curling off the wall.

570
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Old like three inch black pipe tubing as railing.

571
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:34.839
<v Speaker 1>Yea very screwed together fittings. And the jail cells are

572
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>all operated off of a singular giant lever lever kind

573
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:43.079
<v Speaker 1>of mechanism at the front of the building.

574
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

575
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.759
<v Speaker 1>So it's very creepy because I don't know how to

576
00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>describe it. It's it's like it's a four foot catwalk

577
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>in front of each jail cell, going four stories up,

578
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know between there is this ghostly hallway and

579
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.880
<v Speaker 1>then on the back side is the same.

580
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:02.240
<v Speaker 2>Thing mirrored, and then down the middle are these observations

581
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:06.960
<v Speaker 2>always the catwalk. Then I kept thinking this looks steam

582
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:07.920
<v Speaker 2>punk because.

583
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>The levers, well, it is things that was the roll.

584
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was that kind of thing. It was like techie,

585
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:16.839
<v Speaker 2>but it was high tech then. But it was like

586
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 2>levers and gears and.

587
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Yep, it looked as though I don't know exactly how

588
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>it worked. So at the front of the building, let's say,

589
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>on the right side of the continuous wall of jail cells,

590
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>is these four levers, and each lever would operate the

591
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>opening and closing the entire set of doors on an

592
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>entire floor, the entire floor. So you could pull lever

593
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a and it would open floor one and all the

594
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>prisoners that have been stuck in there would come out,

595
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.519
<v Speaker 1>and then you could close that and vice versa. And

596
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:50.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there was a way to go and open

597
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>each door. Yeah, but the crazy part was that there

598
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>was only a four foot catwalk in front of each yeah,

599
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>or of jail cells. Yeah, so you were up on there,

600
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and if you were up on the fourth floor, you're

601
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>really you're probably twenty five thirty feet up in the air. Yeah,

602
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>it was crazy, it was.

603
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.519
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of spooky, and you got.

604
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:16.319
<v Speaker 1>To remember everything was dark. Yeah, it was darker this time,

605
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>say for the little bit of light that was through

606
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:22.799
<v Speaker 1>the windows. So here's here's something interesting.

607
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, speaking of the windows, so the wind is outside blowing,

608
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>You're in this very narrow building, that houses this, these

609
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>all of these jail cells, and we do our quiet time.

610
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:39.240
<v Speaker 2>We go in there, quiet time, five minutes of silence.

611
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Then you start hearing now yeah yep.

612
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, what is that? Is somebody speaking to us?

613
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Is somebody trying to get our attention? If somebody does

614
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.559
<v Speaker 2>or if somebody is, do it again, make that knocking

615
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 2>noise again?

616
00:29:58.119 --> 00:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah again.

617
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>And it was like they kept doing it, and I'm

618
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:04.559
<v Speaker 2>like looking around, okay, because I'm a hack. So they're

619
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.759
<v Speaker 2>talking to it. They're trying to say, Okay, something's going

620
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>on here.

621
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>This is this is real. And I'm looking up and.

622
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm going that sounds like that sounds like a window

623
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 2>rattling up to me. So I'm thinking it in my brain.

624
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Because you grew up on kind of an old farmhouse,

625
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 1>right so, and I could tell it was up into

626
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the left by the witches, away from the catwalk and

627
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>away from the jail cell. Yeah, away from the jail sell.

628
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 2>So I'm looking way up there and I'm trying to,

629
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:35.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, see if there's a window or something rattling

630
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:36.000
<v Speaker 2>because of the wind.

631
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>And while I'm thinking it, then well you tell it

632
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>from here. Austin and then so apparently Dad's thinking this.

633
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this, but I'm making notes of our experiences,

634
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to document what time we heard a noise, what time,

635
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to keep a dialogue and a diary

636
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>of what's happening, because if we hear something really cool

637
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.359
<v Speaker 1>at ten thirty, I can kind of track that back

638
00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>to our.

639
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Because you had a recorder going in your pocket.

640
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.799
<v Speaker 1>In my pocket, so I was actually wearing these shorts.

641
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>So I use my note app to write out that

642
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 1>sounds a lot like a loose window frame. And I

643
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 1>go show Dad and he looks at me, like yeah.

644
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>And then I go over and I start poking windows.

645
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>And the first window was quiet. It was very tight.

646
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>It was tight, almost like swollen shut with water damage.

647
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I went to the next one was that it was

648
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>like it was a window, but.

649
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 2>You didn't say tag. You're supposed to say tag. It

650
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.400
<v Speaker 2>was me pushing a window. I just was exploring. And

651
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:35.240
<v Speaker 2>then I think both of us at the same time

652
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>to yeah, I think that's just.

653
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>A window rattling from the wind. And then I felt

654
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>like a douche because I crushed everybody's like yeah.

655
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.240
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh there, I guess that's not what's

656
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen.

657
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:49.759
<v Speaker 1>But in my defense, I was HVAC like drafts and

658
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>poor window seals and stuff are something that people ask

659
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>me up and all kinds of stuff. So I listened

660
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:58.039
<v Speaker 1>for that. When I turn on their their air conditioner

661
00:31:58.079 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>and the big fan in the middle of their house

662
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:03.839
<v Speaker 1>goes and I hear their windows, I'm like, you need

663
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 1>to replace that window. Yeah. So I thought of that,

664
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and I felt bad kind of, but at the same time,

665
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna let it continue. I didn't feel bad.

666
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>In fact, you know, that was another thing that impressed

667
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:18.599
<v Speaker 2>me because you said that and they received it exactly

668
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't try to glorify it or anything. They're like, yeah,

669
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I think you're right.

670
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>They were like, yo, can you do that again? And

671
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.359
<v Speaker 1>then she actually talked into the microphone that she was

672
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 1>recording with and was like, guest tapping window, that's the

673
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>sound of the window. Yeah, She's like, so last recording,

674
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. And she made it very clear, and

675
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I really respected that because it wasn't like they were

676
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 1>trying like, what's that one Ghostbusters video? I am? I

677
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>always call him Ghostbusters because that's what it feels like

678
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>but he's like holding a flashlight or something in his hand.

679
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>It was a keys keys and he's like, come take

680
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>these keys out of my hand. And you can watch

681
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>his arm like flex and then release and then flex

682
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 1>again and see like chucks his keys over his shoulders.

683
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:05.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

684
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>That was.

685
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>That was back in the days of VHS tape and

686
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>we were watching this in a house way a long

687
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.000
<v Speaker 2>time ago. It was like when this first started becoming

688
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>a thing. And I don't remember the name of that either,

689
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>that thing, but it was like ghost ghostbusters, yeah, ghost

690
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.279
<v Speaker 2>hunders go anyway, it was some weird thing where they

691
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 2>would go out and they'd look for ghosts. I had

692
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:30.039
<v Speaker 2>VCR equipment we recorded that episode. I was able to

693
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 2>go back frame by frame. I had this little spinny

694
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>dial and I could spin back and we went through

695
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:40.079
<v Speaker 2>step through frame by frame flex and watch this.

696
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he just.

697
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Totally threw the keys and it was like night vision.

698
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>So it was in that green thing. Yeah, it was

699
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:48.200
<v Speaker 2>so stupid.

700
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>You can get away with it.

701
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, they didn't do that, and I thought

702
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 2>that was cool.

703
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. They were very quick to just be like that's

704
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:55.839
<v Speaker 1>a window, let's move on.

705
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 2>So I'll throw out something here. If you want to

706
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.720
<v Speaker 2>check out some of their investigations and some of the

707
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 2>things that they recorded, you can go to Big River

708
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.799
<v Speaker 2>Paranormal and just google it. It'll come up and you

709
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>can go to their media section and investigation section. They

710
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.400
<v Speaker 2>actually cut out a lot of the EVPs, the recordings

711
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 2>and video of things that have happened, so you.

712
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Can look at some of that stuff. You imagine that

713
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 1>job just recording listening through it. You probably know what

714
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 1>to listen to, so you can kind of space out

715
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:24.320
<v Speaker 1>until you hear it.

716
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:24.960
<v Speaker 6>Well.

717
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I know, Dan and Matt they take their recordings, they

718
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 2>record and use different equipment, and then they go through

719
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 2>and they go through it and look at the wave signals,

720
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>and then they listen to those sections and a lot

721
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:38.440
<v Speaker 2>of times they get, you know, things that they think

722
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 2>are being said, which is you know, maybe we'll show

723
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:44.480
<v Speaker 2>some of that in one of our open Mic and

724
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Austin episodes.

725
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Dan and Matt actually gave us, in my opinion,

726
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 1>you'll probably know this situation I was talking about, but

727
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 1>we were in a very narrow hallway and it was

728
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of weird because there's a drop off about four

729
00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>feet on either side of this.

730
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Hallway talking about on the grates.

731
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Yep, And that was the only time I was actually scared.

732
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.639
<v Speaker 1>I think was that that was the last location we

733
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>went to. Was what was the last location? But that

734
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 1>that location kind of gave me the like, who something

735
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>spooky's happening.

736
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, See for me, it happened not there, it

737
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>happened at the maximum security area.

738
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that one was weird, but anyway, that's a we'll

739
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>get there. But so okay, So.

740
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>We did that and we ended up leading the second

741
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>building and we went to the third building and it

742
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 2>was more of the same where you did the five

743
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>minutes of quiet, and we did that in every location,

744
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.159
<v Speaker 2>just about towards the end of the evening, know that

745
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.079
<v Speaker 2>those five minutes kind of fell dwindled.

746
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is okay.

747
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>So the third building was a lot like the second building.

748
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:51.360
<v Speaker 2>It had three stories, remember, and we went up to

749
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>the top. It was the place where there were the

750
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:54.320
<v Speaker 2>handprints inside the cell.

751
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were.

752
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Walked down that corridor in the middle and there was

753
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>like the dust particles, but we got it.

754
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Was it was really cool.

755
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:03.960
<v Speaker 2>We have some video of that, so you can check

756
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.039
<v Speaker 2>it out on our website. You can look at the

757
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.519
<v Speaker 2>hand prints on the walls, the burnt cell that's like

758
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 2>totally burnt up, and the little access panels to the

759
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 2>like water supply and and toilets and stuff down the middle.

760
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 1>It was that was that was very weird. It was

761
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 1>it was a weird walking down there. I think I

762
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:22.639
<v Speaker 1>followed you.

763
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.159
<v Speaker 2>I have a picture of following.

764
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>You, and I followed you back out, but somebody was

765
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:29.559
<v Speaker 1>shying their flashlighting. My face kind of ruined the effect

766
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>of creepiness.

767
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that was from you know, we didn't really

768
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 2>experience anything there, but that was kind of cool. After that,

769
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.039
<v Speaker 2>we went to the fourth building. The fourth building is

770
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.159
<v Speaker 2>where I kind of got creeped out, so I'll tell

771
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 2>this story. So, yeah, this building was maximum security and

772
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:52.239
<v Speaker 2>it was also where they kept death row and it's

773
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.519
<v Speaker 2>also where they had the gallows. But I didn't know

774
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:57.199
<v Speaker 2>that at the time. I know we were going to

775
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.239
<v Speaker 2>maximum security. So we go in this building and we

776
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>do our five minutes and we're there and it's windy.

777
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:04.800
<v Speaker 2>In fact, there was like a sign or something that

778
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:06.320
<v Speaker 2>was blowing around outside.

779
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.679
<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of weird because you walk in and

780
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 1>it's i'd say like twenty percent exhibit and seventy percent

781
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.800
<v Speaker 1>historical untouched area. Yeah, so you walk in and there's

782
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 1>like a small glass display of what people may have done,

783
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.079
<v Speaker 1>what prisoners might have been there, So it kind of

784
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>throws you off. Yeah, what I thought.

785
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.719
<v Speaker 2>What I remember about that one was in the maximum

786
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.679
<v Speaker 2>security or you have the row of I think it

787
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 2>was two stories high, and you had the jail cells,

788
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:41.320
<v Speaker 2>but then against the wall was a single shower, a

789
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.760
<v Speaker 2>shower spicket, and that's where they would let them out

790
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.480
<v Speaker 2>to shower in the open. There was no concealment, so

791
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 2>the prisoners could go out and probably one at a time,

792
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 2>and shower in front of everybody and then go back

793
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 2>into their cell and then they'd lock it up, right,

794
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was creepy.

795
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a little creepy. It was very obviously

796
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:05.639
<v Speaker 1>you're not in the best spot in the jail or

797
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:09.159
<v Speaker 1>in the prison. But to me it was weird because

798
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 1>you walk in and you see this brand new kind

799
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 1>of bookcase with glass and it shows you know, all

800
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:20.760
<v Speaker 1>these anxiicely printed everything, and then you walk away and

801
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.639
<v Speaker 1>you're like, this is not the same area. Kind of

802
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>like you get a little weird mix of reality because yeah,

803
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>contrast and it kind of makes you feel a little

804
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 1>more at home, but a little more not at home.

805
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.199
<v Speaker 1>It's very weird. And then in the background you've got

806
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:40.320
<v Speaker 1>this this sign of a gated off area, like please

807
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:42.320
<v Speaker 1>don't go back here, we're digging a hole for the

808
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>pipe or whatever. Yeah, and there's this little tin sinus

809
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:49.840
<v Speaker 1>just going bang bang, Yeah. Drink because, like we said,

810
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>it's the windy Yeah, and you gotta remember it is dark.

811
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>It is very dark.

812
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Although that when you first come into that Maximum Security building,

813
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.320
<v Speaker 2>because they had the big double doors you'd go, there

814
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of light coming from the courtyard. Yeah,

815
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:04.360
<v Speaker 2>so you kind of go around the corner and that

816
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 2>was like reflecting off of the different walls. Yeah, so

817
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.199
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't very dark there. So we didn't stay there

818
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.800
<v Speaker 2>very long. I didn't even think. We did our five

819
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:16.199
<v Speaker 2>minute quiet time there. They led us around the backside

820
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 2>to the opposite side of Maximum Security, which was a

821
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 2>mirror image of the other side, but it was dark.

822
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>That's where in this building we kind of adjusted to

823
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:29.199
<v Speaker 1>the clanging and the different noises we may have heard.

824
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>And then we did a short period of silence for

825
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.360
<v Speaker 1>a quiet time, and they had heard some weird noises, Yeah,

826
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:42.800
<v Speaker 1>over there. So at the same time, Dan and Matt

827
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and Kim walked around on the opposite sides of the building,

828
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.119
<v Speaker 1>but to the other side of the building, so they

829
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>heard a bunch of noise and then Dave actually was

830
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the one that called us over to the other side.

831
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.199
<v Speaker 1>He kind of wanders over there ten minutes later, yeah,

832
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:02.559
<v Speaker 1>and he says she's like, hey, you come over on

833
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:05.159
<v Speaker 1>this side. So we go on to the other side,

834
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and then we hear the clanging back to the first

835
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 1>side that we were on, and at this point Dad

836
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.079
<v Speaker 1>decides he's like, oh, what do those stairs do?

837
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:16.679
<v Speaker 2>Well?

838
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:17.440
<v Speaker 1>No, okay.

839
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:20.159
<v Speaker 2>So everybody's sitting over there and being quiet in the dark,

840
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.679
<v Speaker 2>and a couple of ladies were looking off a little

841
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:26.119
<v Speaker 2>bit to the right the side of the jails, and

842
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:28.639
<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh, I wonder if they're seeing, you know,

843
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.840
<v Speaker 2>like how the levers open the jail cells up and stuff.

844
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 2>And I thought, oh, I want to see that too.

845
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.079
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of went over there, and I was

846
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:39.000
<v Speaker 2>just walking. I wasn't trying to be overly sneaky or anything.

847
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:41.360
<v Speaker 2>But when I got over there, I looked up and was.

848
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, there's stairs and you could barely see it

849
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 1>in the dark. There's stairs that go up.

850
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:47.800
<v Speaker 2>So I went over there and I thought, well, they're

851
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.760
<v Speaker 2>probably blocked off. But when I get over there, they

852
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:54.400
<v Speaker 2>were open. And so everybody else is kind of over

853
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:56.800
<v Speaker 2>there listening, hearing the clangy noises.

854
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I can hear you guys talking. Well, I'm going to

855
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>go up these stairs a little bit.

856
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.800
<v Speaker 2>So I went up the stairs and then when I

857
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:05.920
<v Speaker 2>got to the stairs, I noticed that there's like this

858
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:09.880
<v Speaker 2>three doors and they're open. So I had to look

859
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:11.800
<v Speaker 2>in the doors. So I went to the first door

860
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:13.840
<v Speaker 2>and looked in there, and it was like another row

861
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:18.559
<v Speaker 2>of cells, like four cells, but these were different. These

862
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 2>were like side by side, but they were It was

863
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.159
<v Speaker 2>weird that they were set apart and I didn't know

864
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:26.199
<v Speaker 2>what they were. They just were set apart. There were

865
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:29.119
<v Speaker 2>like four, maybe three or four cells there. They all

866
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:31.519
<v Speaker 2>had stuff in them, original stuff.

867
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Radios, comforters, pillows like.

868
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Bedding, yeah, betting, stuff like that, and and I was like, well,

869
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:42.039
<v Speaker 2>that's weird. Then I went back out and then I

870
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.800
<v Speaker 2>went to another doorway and I looked in there and

871
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 2>there was like a room and so I walked in

872
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 2>there in this big room and it's totally dark.

873
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Completely dark, with a two tone floor.

874
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>And so I go in there and I look and

875
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:58.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, I see like a big window. First

876
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.280
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was like a giant TV, like what

877
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:03.559
<v Speaker 2>I have a flat panel on the wall. But I

878
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 2>looked at it like, no, that's a window, so I

879
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:10.400
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't look. And then I realized that that was the gallows.

880
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:14.719
<v Speaker 2>And I was in the observation room for the gallows.

881
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:17.760
<v Speaker 2>And then I kind of like kind of got this

882
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 2>weird creepy feeling because I realized that that first room

883
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I went to was death row, right, And then I

884
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:28.480
<v Speaker 2>started thinking about, I know from our research, this is

885
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the gallows, this is the new gallows they built. And

886
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 2>there was only one execution that took place there, and

887
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>that was the Snowden Edward Snowden or whatever, not Edward,

888
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 2>but the other Snowden, the Idaho Jack the Ripper.

889
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 6>Raymond Snowdon, Raymond snow Raymond Snowdon, otherwise known as Idaho's

890
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:54.920
<v Speaker 6>Jack the Ripper. Oh yeah, he was not a very

891
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.760
<v Speaker 6>nice guy. The lady's name that was killed was Cora Dean.

892
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:05.440
<v Speaker 6>He propositions her, she says no, rejects his advances. He's

893
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:09.239
<v Speaker 6>a little baby and says, well, you make a choice.

894
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:11.760
<v Speaker 6>Either you let me rape you or I am going

895
00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:17.360
<v Speaker 6>to slit your throat. She promptly kicks him in the groin. Nice, sure,

896
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:19.000
<v Speaker 6>yes him that.

897
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:22.360
<v Speaker 7>But that infuriates him, of course, so he ends up

898
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 7>slitting her throat so deeply that it severs her spinal cord,

899
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:29.039
<v Speaker 7>and then he proceeds to stab her twenty.

900
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Nine times that way too many.

901
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so he was convicted. He was put on death row.

902
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.719
<v Speaker 6>Fast forward. Finally his time has come and they march

903
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:41.440
<v Speaker 6>him down to the hangman's news And as he's standing

904
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:44.760
<v Speaker 6>there on the trap door, they placed the noose over

905
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 6>his neck and the hangman pulls the lever and he

906
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:54.840
<v Speaker 6>falls and I guess the height was miscalculated because it

907
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:58.840
<v Speaker 6>doesn't snap his neck chunk. This was a new system.

908
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 6>It was like the first. It was used for an

909
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.320
<v Speaker 6>actual hanging, and there was like a viewing pane of

910
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 6>glass where the family members and stuff could watch the

911
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.079
<v Speaker 6>hanging take place of the victim. Right, And when the

912
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 6>trap door slung down and he fell through, the force

913
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.079
<v Speaker 6>made the thing shake. It shattered the window.

914
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.480
<v Speaker 7>Whoa yeah, correct, so the glass went everywhere and then

915
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.480
<v Speaker 7>it didn't break his neck, so he hung there and

916
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:28.039
<v Speaker 7>kicked for like sixteen minutes before he died.

917
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Speaker 6>Wow. Yeah, and bad things happened to your body. I

918
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:34.960
<v Speaker 6>guess when you're hanging and dying, like all your bodily

919
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.199
<v Speaker 6>functions release makes sense.

920
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

921
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 6>So there was a big mess and he was twitching

922
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:42.639
<v Speaker 6>and jerking and slopping things around it. It was a

923
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:43.119
<v Speaker 6>bad deal.

924
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Girls.

925
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I kind of got I wasn't scared, but I

926
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 8>just realized all of a sudden, if there was any

927
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 8>place at any time where something like nefarious could take place,

928
00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:57.079
<v Speaker 8>it was right then.

929
00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Because I was all alone away from you guys on

930
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:03.079
<v Speaker 2>a different floor, far enough away that I couldn't see

931
00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 2>him and they couldn't see me.

932
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:08.159
<v Speaker 1>And I was up there, and I was like, uh,

933
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:11.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe I shouldn't be here by myself, in the dark,

934
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 1>in the gallows where spirits and people died. Yeah. It's

935
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:19.639
<v Speaker 1>creepy too, because you see this giant lever sticking out

936
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.159
<v Speaker 1>of the floor, and the floor is all wood so

937
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>it starts off all cement, like the entire area cement,

938
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 1>and then there's this giant wooden floor, and then in

939
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:30.880
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the floor is a square like a

940
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:33.320
<v Speaker 1>black outline of a square, and then by it, and

941
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:35.280
<v Speaker 1>then a lever by it, and then above that is

942
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a giant eyebolt hand from where the news. Yes, so bad.

943
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 1>But so Dad's out wandering around having his adventure, and

944
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I am downstairs listening to the lady chew out, these

945
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>other two girls not chew out, but like, hey, guys,

946
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:57.199
<v Speaker 1>let's stay over here. We don't want other noises happening. Wall.

947
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.039
<v Speaker 1>We're investigating, and that's gone, and I'm like, oh my goodness,

948
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering. And then like two minutes later on the

949
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:07.199
<v Speaker 1>stairs we hear.

950
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Going down well, and of course they all I'm dressed

951
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.840
<v Speaker 2>totally in black. Yeah, I have a black jacket, I

952
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 2>have black hat, I have dark pants, black shoes.

953
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then out of nowhere, all the lights like

954
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:26.079
<v Speaker 1>flick over to that direction, and I'm like, I think

955
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that's my dad. He's sneaky and he's deaf. Oh god. Yeah.

956
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, anyway, so I went back and joined the rest

957
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.880
<v Speaker 2>of the group and we waited to see if we

958
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:39.880
<v Speaker 2>could hear anything in there, and then all of us

959
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:43.280
<v Speaker 2>went upstairs to the gallows yeah, and the death row area,

960
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.119
<v Speaker 2>and then we actually got to go down to the

961
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:49.679
<v Speaker 2>bottom underneath the gallows where I thought it was, yeah,

962
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.679
<v Speaker 2>where the body would actually hang. And that's where Snowden

963
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 2>hung for fifteen minutes, choking to death.

964
00:46:56.199 --> 00:47:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Which may not have deserved it completely. Yeah, well I

965
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>think he probably did.

966
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I did.

967
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Anyway. That was a weird.

968
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Actually, that was probably my only real scary moment of

969
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the evening when I realized where I was at.

970
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>That had no idea where I was at, and.

971
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Then I saw the abangment's gallows.

972
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.800
<v Speaker 1>And like, oh God, rewind. Yeah.

973
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:19.480
<v Speaker 2>So after we got done a maximum security, then we

974
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.960
<v Speaker 2>went outside and we walked across the courtyard which used

975
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:24.480
<v Speaker 2>to be where they had the gallows.

976
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:27.199
<v Speaker 1>It was like the original execution area.

977
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then it became a rose garden. But we

978
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:33.199
<v Speaker 2>went across that to a place called the Cooler.

979
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

980
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.519
<v Speaker 2>When we got there, I thought that was like the

981
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.840
<v Speaker 2>place where they would put you in solitary confinement, but

982
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:41.440
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't.

983
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 1>It was like pre solitary.

984
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like it was like before you go

985
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:48.079
<v Speaker 2>to solitary, you're going to go here, and it's not

986
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 2>as bad as solitary, but it's.

987
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 1>Pretty pretty shitty. Yeah. Yeah, they hit a boiler in there.

988
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Radiator in there though, that would maybe keep people warm maybe.

989
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Well that was yeah, that was weird.

990
00:47:57.960 --> 00:47:58.679
<v Speaker 1>So you go in there.

991
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:02.880
<v Speaker 2>These were like stone or concrete cells.

992
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 1>They reminded me of like a you know, like an old.

993
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Kind of pueblo building.

994
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

995
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:13.719
<v Speaker 2>They were really kind of just solid masonry. They were low,

996
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 2>very low.

997
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then it probably had so let's say the

998
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:22.599
<v Speaker 1>building was probably twenty by twenty.

999
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably not much bigger than that. Yeah, the walls

1000
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:26.000
<v Speaker 2>were maybe a foot.

1001
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Then there was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

1002
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:33.760
<v Speaker 1>cells eight cells in there, and they were very narrow cells,

1003
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:35.519
<v Speaker 1>barely enough for you to you know.

1004
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe four feet wide five feet maybe yeh, and

1005
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:41.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe seven feet deep.

1006
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know if the math works out. A

1007
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:46.320
<v Speaker 1>few put it that way, but it was very confined.

1008
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there were there wasn't any like cots or

1009
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 2>anything in those.

1010
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.559
<v Speaker 1>It was just laying on the floor and shit in

1011
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.679
<v Speaker 1>the bucket kind of situation. Yeah. So it's funny. So

1012
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:58.360
<v Speaker 1>we walk in there and there's a radiator. So there's

1013
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:02.719
<v Speaker 1>an entry room which was probably ten by five.

1014
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:04.920
<v Speaker 2>And again I wonder remind people it is like really

1015
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 2>really Yeah.

1016
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>It's very dark and in the each individual cell it is,

1017
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.760
<v Speaker 1>there's no yeah, it's pitch black. So Kim was number

1018
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>one maybe, and you and I and Matt and Dan

1019
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and Dave and we were kind of the first ones in.

1020
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.360
<v Speaker 1>So we all kind of assume a position. It's out

1021
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.800
<v Speaker 1>of the way and you could get inside of these cells.

1022
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.079
<v Speaker 1>All the cells were open, you. Yeah, So Dave goes

1023
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and gets in a kind of back corner cell, and

1024
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>then we continue our quiet time, and then randomly this

1025
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>lady goes, oh, yeah, because Dave. Dave had sneakily, not

1026
00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:44.480
<v Speaker 1>intentionally sneakily, but he had made his way into a

1027
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:48.559
<v Speaker 1>cell quietly to respect everybody, and just kind of stood

1028
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>there listening. And then the lady kind of like walked

1029
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:56.800
<v Speaker 1>in and looked over and just saw this black figure.

1030
00:49:57.639 --> 00:49:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see.

1031
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Its funny, well, you know, to give our listeners kind

1032
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:04.559
<v Speaker 2>of an idea of what this cooler was like, imagine

1033
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:10.039
<v Speaker 2>going into a old shower, like in an old high

1034
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:11.519
<v Speaker 2>school shower location.

1035
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think of like a bathroom stall.

1036
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like kind of a bathroom stall. But it was

1037
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 2>the walls are really thick, and I don't remember there

1038
00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:21.519
<v Speaker 2>being were there doors on any of the cells had

1039
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.239
<v Speaker 2>or had they been removed. I think you could just

1040
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:26.239
<v Speaker 2>walk in. I don't think there were doors on any

1041
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:29.800
<v Speaker 2>of these cells, so it was almost like you're walking

1042
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:31.800
<v Speaker 2>into individual little shower stalls.

1043
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:35.079
<v Speaker 1>It felt kind of like it. Yeah, dark, and the

1044
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:36.559
<v Speaker 1>size was about right. Yeah.

1045
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was very moist, and yeah, it was weird.

1046
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:40.599
<v Speaker 1>If you put your hands to either side, you couldn't

1047
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>fully extend your arms, and if you stood the other

1048
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.199
<v Speaker 1>direction the long ways, you'd only have to take a

1049
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:49.960
<v Speaker 1>step to touch the door and the back wall right,

1050
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:52.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was only maybe a foot and a

1051
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.800
<v Speaker 1>half wider than you and six inches longer than your

1052
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:57.880
<v Speaker 1>wings for me anyway.

1053
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 2>And then right in the middle of the hall where

1054
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:03.719
<v Speaker 2>you come in was the radiator. Yeah one, it central.

1055
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 2>It was central, right in the middle of this like

1056
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:10.039
<v Speaker 2>entrance lobby hallway, and then all the little cells around

1057
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:11.960
<v Speaker 2>that were you know, like shower stalls.

1058
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1059
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 2>No toilet, no drain, nope, just you get a bucket

1060
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:17.519
<v Speaker 2>and that's what you do your business in.

1061
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>So that was weird.

1062
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought maybe we'd experience something there because it was

1063
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 2>just creepy, but nothing happened really. The wind noise was

1064
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:26.360
<v Speaker 2>going on, it was it was cold over there, because

1065
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 2>you had to walk and it was such a weird,

1066
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:32.400
<v Speaker 2>low profile building. But then we left there, went around

1067
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.199
<v Speaker 2>the other side of that building and down a little bit,

1068
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and that's where they had solitary.

1069
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Confinement and that's where the batty bats go.

1070
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's where I mean those were gross. Now,

1071
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 2>that was like one long row of really small what

1072
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:53.519
<v Speaker 2>four by six by They were fairly tall.

1073
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:55.920
<v Speaker 1>You think they were eight feet tall. Yeah, And they

1074
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>had two maybe four inch holes for light and.

1075
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Drilled through the scene and probably in foot of concrete ceiling,

1076
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 2>two four inch holes. That was your only light and

1077
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:06.760
<v Speaker 2>that was your only air.

1078
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:09.239
<v Speaker 1>And they said that when it would rain, it would

1079
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:13.079
<v Speaker 1>just flood the building flood, so maybe sleeping in water water, Yeah,

1080
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:16.880
<v Speaker 1>your feet would get all grandma feet. And there was

1081
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:20.519
<v Speaker 1>there was little holes indentse on the floor where they

1082
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:22.119
<v Speaker 1>put their butter butter.

1083
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Probably so it would kind of hold they get knocked

1084
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:27.800
<v Speaker 2>over in the dark because something keep it from getting

1085
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.400
<v Speaker 2>knocked around. Yeah. That was disgusting. And then the doors

1086
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.000
<v Speaker 2>themselves stick in my mind because they were just solid

1087
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:36.920
<v Speaker 2>cheat mental. They looked like the door of an old

1088
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.000
<v Speaker 2>an old like a submarine kind of like yeah, or

1089
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:42.480
<v Speaker 2>like you know, like the locomotives that had the old

1090
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:43.039
<v Speaker 2>steam engine.

1091
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:44.960
<v Speaker 1>They'd open the door and they'd throw in coal.

1092
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:47.039
<v Speaker 2>It was like that kind of door.

1093
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Big heavy steel door. Yeah, and they had a little people.

1094
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a little probably six inches tall, maybe three

1095
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 2>inches wide, and it would flip open and closed and

1096
00:52:57.679 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 2>you could maybe put food through.

1097
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:00.960
<v Speaker 1>There or something must have been what they do.

1098
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's creepy and a lot of those you couldn't

1099
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:05.719
<v Speaker 2>go in they were locked, but I would stick my

1100
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:09.079
<v Speaker 2>camera through there and kind of those are the ones that.

1101
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Had the crazy ar Yeah. They had some weird art

1102
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>in there, naked ladies.

1103
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I've got some video of that. I'll put

1104
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:19.519
<v Speaker 2>that on the website too, But I was nervous putting

1105
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.840
<v Speaker 2>my hand through there with my camera is weird. It's

1106
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.440
<v Speaker 2>like what if something grabbed my farm where.

1107
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:26.159
<v Speaker 1>You drop your phone, you'd never get it.

1108
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:27.800
<v Speaker 2>You'd have to go in the next day and say,

1109
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:31.840
<v Speaker 2>please let me in this solitary confinement. But out of

1110
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:35.280
<v Speaker 2>all the places, that was like the most yucky.

1111
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you didn't.

1112
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Want to be there. If you were there, you you

1113
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 2>were miserable. Imagine sleeping on that hard concrete floor in

1114
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the winter.

1115
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:48.079
<v Speaker 1>What wasn't even concrete. It was like compact sand, like

1116
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:52.199
<v Speaker 1>borderline concrete. Yeah, it was. It was rough stucco. You

1117
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:56.679
<v Speaker 1>would not want to be there. No comfort, zero, zero comfort.

1118
00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.639
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, we stayed there for a while hoping we'd

1119
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:04.320
<v Speaker 2>hear something see something. We didn't really other than lots

1120
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.360
<v Speaker 2>of windy noises. So then we went onto our last building,

1121
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:08.719
<v Speaker 2>which was the Foehouse.

1122
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:10.719
<v Speaker 1>And this is where I got really scared twice.

1123
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 2>You had two scary moments there, three scary moments. So

1124
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:16.719
<v Speaker 2>this building just to describe it as I think it

1125
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:21.000
<v Speaker 2>was three stories high. It had three stacked stories of cells,

1126
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the other buildings, and they were mirror

1127
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:26.840
<v Speaker 2>so one side had a row and then the other

1128
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:31.320
<v Speaker 2>side had a mirrored triple story stack of jail cells.

1129
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:34.840
<v Speaker 1>And in between the mirror would be a catwalk where

1130
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a guard or whatever, a prison employee inmate would walk

1131
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:43.480
<v Speaker 1>down and be able to peek into each cell and

1132
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:47.000
<v Speaker 1>also maybe go to the bathroom or wash his.

1133
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Hands, turn water on and off stuff like that for

1134
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the cell.

1135
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Maintain the cells.

1136
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:51.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1137
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:54.519
<v Speaker 1>It was just basically a service hall. Yeah, and there

1138
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:56.719
<v Speaker 1>was a sink and a toilet back there. It looked like.

1139
00:54:56.800 --> 00:55:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it was really weird, really long. Would I

1140
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:03.440
<v Speaker 2>be overestimating and saying it was probably one hundred yards long?

1141
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

1142
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so maybe it was fifty yards yards, So okay,

1143
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:11.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm overestimating, but I'm guessing that it's probably at

1144
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:15.679
<v Speaker 2>least fifty yards in length. And so you had the

1145
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:18.679
<v Speaker 2>jail cells that ran for fifty yards probably were maybe

1146
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:23.840
<v Speaker 2>what ten fifteen cells on each row, two people per

1147
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:26.599
<v Speaker 2>sell probably, But then when you got to this little

1148
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:29.719
<v Speaker 2>room you're talking about in between, yeah, which was in between.

1149
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So there's like a five foot wide passage going

1150
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:39.480
<v Speaker 1>between this and two jail cells. On this five foot

1151
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>wide passage is a three foot wide catwalk catwalk of

1152
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:47.719
<v Speaker 1>like steel grade rates still, and on either side you

1153
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:51.239
<v Speaker 1>got a one foot wide hole on either side.

1154
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:54.079
<v Speaker 2>And probably the floor itself was probably at least four

1155
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:55.000
<v Speaker 2>feet below that.

1156
00:55:55.400 --> 00:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So you're walking down like this creaky grated steel

1157
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:04.039
<v Speaker 1>floor with a four foot drop underneath you and a

1158
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:06.280
<v Speaker 1>one foot hole on either side that you could easily

1159
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:08.239
<v Speaker 1>drop four feet and smack your head on them. You

1160
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:08.679
<v Speaker 1>can see it.

1161
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:10.239
<v Speaker 2>And we were on the first floor, but there were

1162
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:11.519
<v Speaker 2>like three levels above.

1163
00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:13.320
<v Speaker 1>They were pretty high so if.

1164
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:15.039
<v Speaker 2>You were on the grade above, it would even be

1165
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:17.159
<v Speaker 2>more creepy. Creepy, Yeah, And if you're on the one

1166
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:19.800
<v Speaker 2>above that, it would even be more creepy because you'd

1167
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.000
<v Speaker 2>be looking down through all these grades to the bottom.

1168
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So we walked down there. That was pretty creepy

1169
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:26.400
<v Speaker 1>all the way to the end pretty much.

1170
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:28.239
<v Speaker 2>So is that where you had your You said you

1171
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:30.920
<v Speaker 2>had a couple of scary moments in this building.

1172
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:33.519
<v Speaker 1>I had one scary moment right when we walked in.

1173
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:37.320
<v Speaker 1>And they have these mannequins up on the on the

1174
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>top floor, kind of like one's a guard with a

1175
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:42.079
<v Speaker 1>big hat and he's got his hands on his hips,

1176
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.360
<v Speaker 1>being tough, and the other one looks like maybe he's

1177
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:47.559
<v Speaker 1>a prisoner or something. He's like holding onto a railing.

1178
00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:51.079
<v Speaker 1>And right when we walked in, I heard her say

1179
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.000
<v Speaker 1>something about mannequins, or maybe she didn't say right away.

1180
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I think we were in there and then people noticed

1181
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:57.079
<v Speaker 2>it or something.

1182
00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:59.079
<v Speaker 1>And then she said, but I saw this black figure

1183
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:02.800
<v Speaker 1>of a guy up above me a floor, and I

1184
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:07.159
<v Speaker 1>was like, like, my heart jumped up. I saw the

1185
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:10.239
<v Speaker 1>shad open, and then she was like, there's mannequins in here,

1186
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, they scared the crap.

1187
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I know, they spent a lot of time running back

1188
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and forth to the either side because they kept hearing

1189
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:21.639
<v Speaker 2>noises on one side, and then they'd run over there,

1190
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:24.519
<v Speaker 2>and then they'd hear noises on the side we started on,

1191
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 2>and we'd run back over there, and uh, you know,

1192
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe we heard a few things that were

1193
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:32.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of interesting. And then and then we all got

1194
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:38.599
<v Speaker 2>in that center hallway access thing. Yeah, so and.

1195
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:41.039
<v Speaker 1>That's where the weirdest thing for me happened. I think.

1196
00:57:41.159 --> 00:57:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1197
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:46.000
<v Speaker 1>So we had Dan and Matt.

1198
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 2>They went in there first. They were ahead of us,

1199
00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:52.679
<v Speaker 2>and they had their little uh low like light AMF

1200
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:56.599
<v Speaker 2>detector and Dad and I were right behind it, and

1201
00:57:56.719 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 2>they were asking questions and just about every time he'd

1202
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:02.480
<v Speaker 2>ask you question, the light that EMF reader would go

1203
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:06.519
<v Speaker 2>yeah with green, yellow, red, get red and deep and

1204
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:09.400
<v Speaker 2>so there was some magnetic frequency that it was going on.

1205
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:12.199
<v Speaker 1>And it was a little weird because he would have see, like,

1206
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 1>are you in here with us? And it would be

1207
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:17.079
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, it would like it would do its thing

1208
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.639
<v Speaker 1>and spark up. So that was a little weird and

1209
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:22.280
<v Speaker 1>it kind of died down and I kind of wanted

1210
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to stay a little bit, and Dad and everybody.

1211
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Else can everybody else came in. Know what happened if

1212
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:30.800
<v Speaker 2>you remember when we're in there, all of a sudden,

1213
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:33.360
<v Speaker 2>one of the ladies that was with us said, I

1214
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 2>got to get out of here a little anxiety. I am,

1215
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling nauseous. I've got to get out of here.

1216
00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:45.400
<v Speaker 2>And she was having some kind of strange reaction to

1217
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:52.320
<v Speaker 2>the darkness or entity or sundering, and she needed out.

1218
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 2>So everybody besides us, because we hung back, they vacated

1219
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.559
<v Speaker 2>pretty quick. Dave left, the lady left, everybody else basically

1220
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:02.599
<v Speaker 2>was trudging down.

1221
00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:04.159
<v Speaker 1>This little rampway walkway.

1222
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so I kind of hung back because I

1223
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:10.360
<v Speaker 2>wanted to get some video walking out, and so I did,

1224
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:13.119
<v Speaker 2>I'll put that on the website. So then I start

1225
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:16.360
<v Speaker 2>walking out, and I'm using the light on my camera

1226
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:21.239
<v Speaker 2>video to kind of see what I'm doing. And then

1227
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:22.920
<v Speaker 2>so I just go walking out. But I didn't know

1228
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:23.840
<v Speaker 2>you weren't following me.

1229
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Yep. I was about maybe twenty steps behind my dad

1230
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:31.039
<v Speaker 1>because these other guys were down there with their stuff

1231
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:33.079
<v Speaker 1>as far as they could go. Yeah, they were at

1232
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the very end, and I were doing this stuff with

1233
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>their lights, and I wanted to kind of see what

1234
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:40.360
<v Speaker 1>was going on. But at the same time, I didn't

1235
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:42.480
<v Speaker 1>want to just kind of abandon my little group and

1236
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:44.840
<v Speaker 1>hang out with these two people I don't know that well,

1237
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:47.599
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm in a dark tunnel. It's not

1238
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:50.360
<v Speaker 1>cool to hang out with random people in a dark tunnel.

1239
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.760
<v Speaker 1>So I kind of start walking behind Dad on this

1240
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:57.559
<v Speaker 1>narrow catwalk where there's a four foot drop and a well,

1241
00:59:57.880 --> 00:59:59.320
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, hole on either side.

1242
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:01.760
<v Speaker 2>One thing I should say before that, and this is

1243
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:06.320
<v Speaker 2>after the gal left Matt and Daniel. One of them said,

1244
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling really weird. I feel like my legs I've

1245
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:14.039
<v Speaker 2>got a cold feeling like he's tingling on my legs.

1246
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:17.800
<v Speaker 2>And then the other one said, yeah, me too, And

1247
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:20.119
<v Speaker 2>then I think that's right after that's when the lady

1248
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:23.280
<v Speaker 2>got nauseous and had to leave, right and then so

1249
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:25.960
<v Speaker 2>then they march out, and then I march out after them,

1250
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and then you're hanging back there.

1251
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Them kind of like in between, like do I stay

1252
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:31.599
<v Speaker 1>with these guys or do I go with my group,

1253
01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:35.719
<v Speaker 1>my dad, my friend Dave, you know, So finally I

1254
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:38.360
<v Speaker 1>like I'll just go out the beat being in stuff

1255
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:40.960
<v Speaker 1>had kind of stopped, and I was like, I'll just

1256
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.159
<v Speaker 1>follow the group out, you know, at this point, and

1257
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I start walking behind my dad, but I'm pretty far

1258
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:49.280
<v Speaker 1>behind him. Yeah, And it was all fine and dandy

1259
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.239
<v Speaker 1>because he's got the reflection off the walls kind of

1260
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:54.679
<v Speaker 1>coming back. I can see where the grade is because,

1261
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:57.320
<v Speaker 1>like I said, there's a wonder hole on either side

1262
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.639
<v Speaker 1>that you could drop four feet. And then Dad passes

1263
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:05.199
<v Speaker 1>through the walkway door entrance and turn lance and then

1264
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:11.519
<v Speaker 1>pitch black and I'm like, oh no, I can't see anything.

1265
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:14.800
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like reaching out for the walls, but I'm

1266
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of afraid because she's like there's black widows and

1267
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:19.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff that we've grabbed, and so I'm like kind of

1268
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:23.440
<v Speaker 1>like tenderly watching the walls, like please just don't fall

1269
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and hit my head and scream like a little girl.

1270
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:29.320
<v Speaker 1>That's when I was probably the most scared, because I

1271
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<v Speaker 1>thought for sure I was gonna like wander it, damn

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<v Speaker 1>hit my head on the wall. Well, yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So you get out. You came out, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny. The reason I didn't look backwards and try

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01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.079
<v Speaker 2>my light backwards for you was because I was shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>It was video, and I didn't want to turn around

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01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:49.880
<v Speaker 2>because it was such a cool shot walking down this

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<v Speaker 2>weird ah way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so I didn't turn.

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01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Around, and I thought, well, he has a flashlighter. He

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<v Speaker 2>could pull his phone out and turn your phone light.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just left you back there, and then Matt

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<v Speaker 2>and Daniel eventually came out, and they were a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit wigged out. I think a little bit too. They

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<v Speaker 2>had a little bit of an experience back there in

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<v Speaker 2>that dark area of that tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Like I said, the EMF detector was actually like responding.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed to what they were A little question would

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<v Speaker 1>go off. Unless he's got some kind of magical button

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01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:23.159
<v Speaker 1>on there and he can like make it react, it'd

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01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:26.280
<v Speaker 1>be pretty coincidental for it to actually go off. That

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01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:27.119
<v Speaker 1>I watched.

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<v Speaker 2>They I didn't see, and I don't think they would

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<v Speaker 2>do anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to make contact with them and maybe get

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<v Speaker 2>them on the podcast and let them tell some of

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<v Speaker 2>their stories.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get an EMF detector thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I got one on my phone out.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get the thing he had. Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same one. Just hang it from a necklace somehow,

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01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:50.079
<v Speaker 1>so that clearly both my hands are occupied, but my

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01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:53.719
<v Speaker 1>brain tells me he could touch that and make it

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01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:55.840
<v Speaker 1>be different. So if it was like hanging from a

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<v Speaker 1>string on my neck, I couldn't do anything with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow would be a little more genuine. Genuine. Genuine would

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01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:05.519
<v Speaker 1>be a good word for me, not that I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's lying.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you would be less fraught with the possibility of

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<v Speaker 2>being tampered.

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<v Speaker 1>With because I've never met the guy before, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so we get done with that, we go out

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<v Speaker 2>of four house and we meet in the courtyard. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>kind of does a little dissertation of what they can

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<v Speaker 2>debris experience, and then by then everybody's freezing. Yeah, So

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01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:27.800
<v Speaker 2>finally they let us go, and everybody's like bolting to

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<v Speaker 2>their cars because everybody was so cold. But then we

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<v Speaker 2>got the car and we talked about what we'd experienced

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01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:35.079
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and we.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we see on the way to the car

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<v Speaker 1>another Well, maybe the same owl sitting on a flagpole

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01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:44.559
<v Speaker 1>on a pole, so it's a sign of something.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing we thought we need to do, we

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01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:48.960
<v Speaker 2>want to go back and do it again on a

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<v Speaker 2>night that's not windy.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe a little more warmer, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little warmer not so windy, and then you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>get some equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we know kind of what to expect, we can kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of go with a little bit better preparation for you know,

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01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:05.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to record or capture something.

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<v Speaker 1>We could ask some questions. I don't think any of

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01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:11.039
<v Speaker 1>us said anything other than you know, talking to each other, and.

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01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I asked a few questions to you know, different people.

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01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:17.360
<v Speaker 1>And Kim on the other side of the coin was

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<v Speaker 1>also asking us questions like, you know, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>expect to see? What are your thoughts on this? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, in her mind, the way she explained

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01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:30.639
<v Speaker 1>it was, you act normal things normal and paranormal will happen.

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01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.519
<v Speaker 1>It's not like you have to ask for their and

1344
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:36.280
<v Speaker 1>they'll come on demand. You just be yourself and you

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01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:39.320
<v Speaker 1>have your normal energy with you and see what happens,

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01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:41.719
<v Speaker 1>and that'll, you know, and then we'll review later and

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01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:42.519
<v Speaker 1>that'll kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>So one thing that she said, and so did Marie

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01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:50.760
<v Speaker 2>when we first got there. They stress that you be

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01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:55.360
<v Speaker 2>respectful and that you don't try to antagonize. And this

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01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:57.760
<v Speaker 2>is maybe why they don't do that, and that is

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01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:04.239
<v Speaker 2>because there are lots of stories of people who somehow

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01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:09.719
<v Speaker 2>make a spirit or entity attracted to them, and it

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01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:13.280
<v Speaker 2>attaches themselves to that person and then goes with them

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01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:14.000
<v Speaker 2>when they leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they stab their wives twenty nights.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they do, but so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I did not feel like anything attached itself to us. Yeah. Plus,

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01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:28.400
<v Speaker 2>we drove so fast in that little sionics, being like

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01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:30.840
<v Speaker 2>it couldn't keep up anyway, zero to sixty on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing is pitiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Scary, That is scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's scary how fast you can't pull into traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was a good time. I thought we

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01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:42.679
<v Speaker 1>had a really good time. I think we need to

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<v Speaker 1>go again.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think also we need to kind of go

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<v Speaker 2>back and revisit when they have the findings out on

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01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:52.679
<v Speaker 2>their website and then we can direct people to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they'll let us use some of those recordings and

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<v Speaker 1>we can kind of release some of that. Well. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it again for sure, absolutely less windy,

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01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:05.079
<v Speaker 1>maybe a little warmer. I want to wear a little

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01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:08.679
<v Speaker 1>less clothing, maybe kind of play the Joe bait card.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and attract some female ghosts no mamle ones whatever whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, right, I'm not judging. We've talked a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's time for us to get out of

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<v Speaker 2>this one. I don't know what we're gonna do next, though,

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01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:24.039
<v Speaker 2>but we'll think of something.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and remember to getting nice. So we got

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<v Speaker 1>some places to go.

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<v Speaker 6>We do.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember to like us on Facebook, share us with your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>The more people we get to listen to, the better.

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<v Speaker 2>We're always slowly climbing. It's not like all of a

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01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:43.360
<v Speaker 2>sudden we have like some kind of huge increase about

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>We pick up new listeners all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, and it feels really good. We're about at twelve thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Listens now, so that's good total listeners though it's not

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01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:58.199
<v Speaker 1>listening news, no total, no total listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what we have.

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01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to guess. On a replay and they

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01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:05.440
<v Speaker 1>forget to turn it off and listen to this, just

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01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:08.239
<v Speaker 1>keep from listening. Don't think that happens, but you never

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<v Speaker 1>Well if they make us feel good, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, on that happy note, I'm ready to go to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Austin. Like us, follow us, check out our website A

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<v Speaker 1>Strange thing dot com dot com, pretty straightforward, pretty straightforward,

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<v Speaker 1>and have a good night and also join us next

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01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:33.760
<v Speaker 1>time for some cold drinks and some strange conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>Strange conversations, let's get out of here. Wear it to

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<v Speaker 5>your mother.