Speaker 1: Hey guys, Hey guys, and welcome to where are we at?
Speaker 1: Episode thirty five. I have such a hard time with counting,
Speaker 1: I know, especially past twelve.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, once you run out of fingers and toes,
Speaker 2: so you're called twenty four.
Speaker 1: And then you're like twenty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got six fingers and six toes.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, what does that saying about you?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I got five.
Speaker 1: I'm not a.
Speaker 2: Muty okay nerd Yeah, I guess I am. But anyway,
Speaker 2: we did an amazingly fun and crazy thing.
Speaker 1: This was super fun.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, but my feet got tired. I got
Speaker 2: a little cold, have to say. It was a little
Speaker 2: nippy out. But anyway, we're jumping ahead of the gun.
Speaker 2: What did we do, Austin?
Speaker 1: We went to Well, we talked about it. I know,
Speaker 1: it's not let's not build any substense because well.
Speaker 2: People might already listen to the previous episode, so they
Speaker 2: might not know.
Speaker 1: For those of you who didn't listen to our last episode,
Speaker 1: stop and catch up. Stop, break it down and listen,
Speaker 1: break it down? Is it collaborate? Oh?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Stop? Collaborate and listen? This is back with the brand
Speaker 1: new evench and something for the hold of Me Tightly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay of that. But yeah, we went somewhere. We
Speaker 2: went somewhere and we talked about that we were going
Speaker 2: in our last episode. It was kind of like laying
Speaker 2: the bedrock, is what I said, the foundation.
Speaker 1: The foundation. Oh yeah, because we went to old Idaho
Speaker 1: State Penitentiary. That's a prison for those of you who
Speaker 1: don't understand larger words. Yeah, and the.
Speaker 2: Reason they say old is because it's no longer in service.
Speaker 1: And old it's not a big word. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's okay with it. But it's been closed
Speaker 2: for since nineteen seventy two. It became a National Historical
Speaker 2: building and they have a Preservation since Society that actually
Speaker 2: has an office right there on the penitentiary campus and
Speaker 2: they sell souvenirs and they have tours and you can
Speaker 2: go through and it's left in a state like it
Speaker 2: was when they closed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was pretty surprised. So we went in there, right,
Speaker 1: we'll talk more about what we did, but we walked
Speaker 1: around all over, Yeah, and I was surprised. They were
Speaker 1: like cans of like borax or whatever kind of soap
Speaker 1: comet powder, cans in the corners, just caked in dust
Speaker 1: like they'd been there. Like some guard got poop on him,
Speaker 1: washed his arms and hands off, and then threw the
Speaker 1: bottle in the corner and just left it.
Speaker 2: I think they left it intentionally as it was. Some
Speaker 2: of the cells you could tell they really hadn't been
Speaker 2: cleaned or anything, and they had some riots. So some
Speaker 2: of them were burned.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, completely burned.
Speaker 2: And some of them, you know, like in some of
Speaker 2: the places you go and there'd be art on the
Speaker 2: walls that the inmates drew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of art. I was pretty impressive. Some of
Speaker 1: them were actually three dimensional, you know, they had like
Speaker 1: a side profile of a person. And it was good.
Speaker 1: They were done really well.
Speaker 2: But it was really creepy because we were part of
Speaker 2: an investigation team being led by a group of paranormal
Speaker 2: investigators called Big River Paranormal And we met there at
Speaker 2: nine fifteen in the evening and we were there till
Speaker 2: what two three in the morning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty late.
Speaker 2: And you go through the entire place and the lights
Speaker 2: are off, so it's dark. There's some yard lights and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. That's that's all out in the you know,
Speaker 2: the main courtyards, but as far as the buildings themselves,
Speaker 2: they're totally dark except for maybe some moonlight or some
Speaker 2: you know, yard lights coming through the windows.
Speaker 1: And then we had flashlights and stuff and yeah, like recorders.
Speaker 1: We brought recorders. The guy had like an MF detector
Speaker 1: and they we actually they had EVP recorders, and we
Speaker 1: went by like a station that senses like electro I
Speaker 1: don't know what the technical study maybe or like it
Speaker 1: basically senses motion and makes a bright light when motion
Speaker 1: goes across it.
Speaker 2: So we saw it at some geeky paranormal investigator. It
Speaker 2: came up with like a whole table of all kinds
Speaker 2: of equipment and he had like on this board. It
Speaker 2: looked kind of looked like a soundboard, like if you're
Speaker 2: a musician.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go talk to him, but yeah, so
Speaker 1: tell me about this thing and you know one thing
Speaker 1: that was really interesting.
Speaker 2: So we get there and they knew we were coming,
Speaker 2: and so they joined us with a group of investigators
Speaker 2: that were kind of I guess you could say they
Speaker 2: were very experienced seasoned. Yeah, they do it regularly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of their hoppy.
Speaker 2: And so a shout out to Matt and Daniel Daniel, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they were really Mike. No, it was Matt.
Speaker 1: You're Mike. I'm Mike, I'm Dan, You're Austin. I'm so confused.
Speaker 1: I know it was very confusing.
Speaker 2: But Matt and Daniel had gone on quite a few
Speaker 2: of these and you could tell they were really into it.
Speaker 2: They had some good equipment and they were really eager
Speaker 2: to kind of share their adventures and some of their experiences.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get them on sometime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, shout out yeah yea and Dan salute. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nice guys.
Speaker 2: But our leader of our group was actually very nice
Speaker 2: to Her name was Kim.
Speaker 1: Kim and I remember Kim Marie.
Speaker 2: Came in when we were in one of the buildings,
Speaker 2: I don't remember the name of the building, and she
Speaker 2: kind of told a couple of her experiences, and I
Speaker 2: thought that was kind of cool. So you gotta kind
Speaker 2: of get the picture of what's going on here. And
Speaker 2: we're gonna put some of the videos that we took
Speaker 2: on our YouTube channel. So go to our website and
Speaker 2: I'll put a link to that and you can see
Speaker 2: what these places actually look like. They're nothing fancy. We
Speaker 2: don't have fancy cameras. And stuff, so don't expect too much.
Speaker 1: Anybody with a phone nowadays has a fancy camera.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we used, your phone, But you know,
Speaker 2: at night you can't see a lot of things.
Speaker 1: It was kind of weird because we were recording with
Speaker 1: our phones and then there's so much dust in there,
Speaker 1: and at night when it's dart those particles, there's particles
Speaker 1: floating around, so it made a real eerie. Yeah, even
Speaker 1: in the flashlight, you could just see big blurs of
Speaker 1: dust and stuff floating around here.
Speaker 2: I kept thinking, I wonder if that's like asbestos.
Speaker 1: It mind it been.
Speaker 2: But we were wearing masks because you had to, so
Speaker 2: it's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was an interesting place, and like we said, it
Speaker 2: was a paranormal investigation adventure. So the whole idea is
Speaker 2: to make contact with some kind of spirit or being
Speaker 2: from the other side.
Speaker 1: Right, And if you listen to our last episode, some
Speaker 1: of those spirits are beings are a little bit nefarious.
Speaker 2: Great nefarious. We talked about probably the most famous inmate
Speaker 2: that was actually executed.
Speaker 1: It would have happened with him.
Speaker 2: And you know what's really strange is a lot of
Speaker 2: the paranormal investigators that go there like ghost hunters and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, they are always trying to make contact
Speaker 2: with this Snowden character. And the reason is because he's
Speaker 2: he was a bad guy. He killed a lady, stabbed
Speaker 2: her twenty nine times after sliving. Yeah, bad thing. But anyway,
Speaker 2: if you want to hear that story, it's in our
Speaker 2: previous podcast, YEP, which is episode thirty four The Folk.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, before we get really into the specifics
Speaker 2: of our investigation, let's talk a little bit about the
Speaker 2: process because it was interesting. We've never done this before
Speaker 2: in a formal way. I mean, we've gone out and
Speaker 2: went to Miller's Gate and we went to the Gooding
Speaker 2: Tuberculosis Hospital, but we didn't really investigate like the way
Speaker 2: that like professional paranormal investigators investigate.
Speaker 1: So let's let's start from the top. So we showed
Speaker 1: up at your house at about eight o'clock, about eight
Speaker 1: eight fifteen somewhere. The taco bell ran a little late,
Speaker 1: so some of us were a little late.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which we should say. We had a guest with us,
Speaker 2: We had Dave with us.
Speaker 1: So we pull up to your house. We all hop out.
Speaker 1: I rode my motorcycle because I'm super dope. And then
Speaker 1: we came into your house. We did an id L.
Speaker 2: An investigation destination libation YEP as a team, as a kickoff,
Speaker 2: you know, like we normally do when we do a
Speaker 2: new investigation.
Speaker 1: And then we hopped into the little tiny IDV, the
Speaker 1: little toaster car. Yeah, toast sign on XB.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We put the magnet stickers on the door so people
Speaker 2: could know that we.
Speaker 1: Were official, and we cruised on down to the Old
Speaker 1: Eyed Host State Penitentiary.
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of a fun little drive. You
Speaker 2: go down this little road called Warm Springs Road, and
Speaker 2: there are like all these mansions there.
Speaker 1: I don't know about mansions, well, some bigger mansion, biggerhouses. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And we pull up and we get out, and there's
Speaker 2: what maybe forty fifty people lounging around on the outside
Speaker 2: of the entrance to the Old State Penitentiary.
Speaker 1: I'd say like thirty to fifty, thirty to fIF I
Speaker 1: don't think there were one hundred. I didn't say hundred.
Speaker 1: What'd you say, forty to fifty? Oh yeah, you were right.
Speaker 2: Well, when we got there, there was probably maybe twenty,
Speaker 2: but by time we accumulate, by the time we went in,
Speaker 2: it was probably maybe forty to fifty people. I thought
Speaker 2: it was pretty cool though, because when we got there,
Speaker 2: the lead person for Big River Paranormal came out and said,
Speaker 2: is Mike and Austin here, we are here, man, We're like,
Speaker 2: we're over here.
Speaker 1: And they go, Okay, we're gonna put you in a
Speaker 1: special group. You're gonna go last. I don't know about special,
Speaker 1: I mean special special she did.
Speaker 2: She said, I'm going to put you in a special
Speaker 2: group and you're gonna go last with Kim. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's because Kim's really awesome or because
Speaker 2: they were hoping that they would scare all the ghosts
Speaker 2: away before we before to go there in the last group. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but what they did is they divided all the people
Speaker 2: up into five teams, and so every group would go
Speaker 2: to one of the buildings to start the night, and
Speaker 2: then like every fifty minutes they would change and go to.
Speaker 1: Another musical chairs thing going on exactly. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I thought was really cool when we pulled up
Speaker 1: and it comes back around full so cool. But we
Speaker 1: pulled up, we got out, we started walking that direction
Speaker 1: towards the group, the front door area. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: look up and I see this big owl. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: go flying over us. And I was like, wow, there's
Speaker 1: an owl. Owls are mystical. There is a lot of
Speaker 1: symbology without symbolism. Yeah, symbology is the study of symbols.
Speaker 1: I think, I like, have you ever seen Boutondox Saints.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm a hack. I can say symbology. I can
Speaker 2: say what I want to say.
Speaker 1: Well, then I am the guy from Budendox Saints, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: Symbolism, symbolism, Okay, so yeah, okay, Owls have a lot
Speaker 2: of symbolism.
Speaker 1: Perfect, Okay. Anyway, people who have seen Boutondox Saints know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Okay, I hope so because I
Speaker 1: have no clue what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: You, So, so what is the symbolism of an owl?
Speaker 2: What does an owl symbolize?
Speaker 1: Kind of like magical? Are you sure? Give me a second?
Speaker 1: Because because I've seen the Labyrinth him, aren't you you're
Speaker 1: the Goblin King?
Speaker 2: Sarah, go back to your room, play with yours and
Speaker 2: your costumes.
Speaker 1: And David Bowie comes as an owl? Oh he turns.
Speaker 1: They're kind of like mystical, and I think that the
Speaker 1: owl is also a sign of death.
Speaker 2: I think we need more official information. Hey, what does
Speaker 2: an owl symbolize?
Speaker 3: On the website worldbirds dot org, they say, while some
Speaker 3: cultures believe vowels to be magicians or heralds of death,
Speaker 3: the white owl symbolizes wisdom and endurance.
Speaker 4: Do you want a little more context?
Speaker 1: Yes? Please? Wisdom and death. Bro, you screwed up Google.
Speaker 3: According to Wikipedia, death row, also known as condemned roe,
Speaker 3: is a place in a prison that houses inmates awaiting
Speaker 3: execution after being convicted of a capital crime.
Speaker 1: Totally deil, I know, but it was on top of it,
Speaker 1: I know, how serious? That was pretty cool?
Speaker 2: Okay, what does an owl symbolize?
Speaker 3: Do you want a little more context? Yes, owl symbolism
Speaker 3: and meaning. Owls are generally as simple of paranormal wisdom,
Speaker 3: regal silence, and fierce intelligence. While some cultures believe owls
Speaker 3: to be magicians or heralds of death, the white owl
Speaker 3: symbolizes wisdom and endurance. The mixed symology makes us curious
Speaker 3: even more.
Speaker 1: She said symbology. She did not, She said the mixed
Speaker 1: symbology symbolism. Symbology is a word. It is a word.
Speaker 1: It's a study of symbolism. You don't say, what's your psychology?
Speaker 2: Would you let me ask Google?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: Hey, what does symbology mean?
Speaker 3: Symbology is used as a noun to mean the study
Speaker 3: or use of symbols, as in the unschooled relied heavily
Speaker 3: on symbology.
Speaker 4: Do you want to hear how symbology is felled?
Speaker 1: No? Thank you? Berdo Saints.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Okay, stop, okay, yeah, what's happening? Okay, let's quit talking
Speaker 2: about an owl? We saw an owl.
Speaker 1: It was cool and it could mean some paranormal kind
Speaker 1: of thing, paranormal symbolism or death.
Speaker 2: Yes, there you go.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's a good started out.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we got our teams. We met Daniel and Matt.
Speaker 2: Then we met our leader who was going to lead
Speaker 2: our group. How many people guide? How many people were
Speaker 2: in our group?
Speaker 1: I think we had you, me, Dave, Matt, Matt, and Dave,
Speaker 1: Daniel Kimberly.
Speaker 2: There was the one lady and then the chair that
Speaker 2: was really cool.
Speaker 1: Oh yep, and then two other ladies. Yeah. I didn't
Speaker 1: catch their name. I didn't catch their names either. Ever.
Speaker 1: They were kind of quiet, yeah, they were, although they
Speaker 1: talked more than we did. They talked amongst themselves a
Speaker 1: lot more. I only said one thing, and I felt
Speaker 1: like a douchebag afterwards. What did you say? Well, I
Speaker 1: don't want to spoil our future. Oh is that where
Speaker 1: you They kind of got them in trouble. No, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: I said that later. That was funny. Everybody giggled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of got people in trouble.
Speaker 1: So we all got in our.
Speaker 2: Groups and marched through, and they basically told us the rules,
Speaker 2: which are, you know, be respectful of other people. Don't
Speaker 2: do things that are going to cause problems or try
Speaker 2: to make up something they talked about when you walked
Speaker 2: to just walk normal. Don't try to take really quiet
Speaker 2: steps because they want to be able to when they
Speaker 2: listen to the recordings afterwards that they can distinguish footsteps
Speaker 2: from something else.
Speaker 1: And don't and don't whisper is your full voice? And
Speaker 1: if you if you do something like burp fart, step
Speaker 1: on a wood plank like David and I did for
Speaker 1: like forty minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're trying to do it slow.
Speaker 1: If you step on something that makes a noise, be
Speaker 1: like sorry, what do they say? They said?
Speaker 2: Tag?
Speaker 4: Tag?
Speaker 1: That was me on the plank or whatever.
Speaker 2: Tag that was my stomach gurgling, tag that.
Speaker 1: Was tag outside airplane, firework, whatever.
Speaker 2: And that gave the people that we're going to review
Speaker 2: the tape later, you know, they knew that something else
Speaker 2: had happens.
Speaker 1: Which will be available about the Timeless episode, Yeah, about
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm thinking in one of our open Mic
Speaker 2: and Austin episodes we'll maybe review some of those recordings
Speaker 2: EVPs and maybe we'll share some of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fall something like.
Speaker 2: And just so our listeners though, we are actually thinking
Speaker 2: of doing this again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really want to do it again. I think
Speaker 1: it'd be fun. And we now we got this advantage
Speaker 1: and now we know what to expect. Ye, and we
Speaker 1: had a disadvantage with the weather that night was yeah,
Speaker 1: very windy, little abnormally windy.
Speaker 2: So there was a lot of noise going on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and which which is myself which later we should actually
Speaker 2: tell that story because it wasn't that the first building
Speaker 2: we went to also.
Speaker 1: The first thing I ever said around people.
Speaker 2: So we get in our groups and everybody goes off.
Speaker 2: They scuttle off to their building where they're going to
Speaker 2: start the investigations, and like we said, the buildings are dark.
Speaker 2: They're not lit, there's no lights on. You go in
Speaker 2: and it's dark. Well, the first one we went to
Speaker 2: was the like the washing room yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the washing room was pretty sweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where you and Dave climbed up those
Speaker 2: creaky stills to look in the shower area.
Speaker 1: So I'll give it around that. And you walk into
Speaker 1: the washroom and a lot of it's fenced off because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of old equipment they would use to
Speaker 1: wash clothes back in you know, nineteen forty, probably forty
Speaker 1: a long time, thirties whatever, And you can go all
Speaker 1: the way around the back of the washroom and you
Speaker 1: can look into like the shower area communal shower, which
Speaker 1: was walled off so it was super dark. So Dave
Speaker 1: and I were kind of drawn to that area because
Speaker 1: it's darker and more creepy, and we were like, that's cool.
Speaker 2: And it's about as far away from the entrance as
Speaker 2: you can get yep.
Speaker 1: And there's like a three step platform to get up
Speaker 1: to the level so you can peak through this window
Speaker 1: into the shower shower. Yeah, so Dave and I go
Speaker 1: over there. Everybody's talking, no big deal, and then we
Speaker 1: had some quiet time before that, I guess. So quiet
Speaker 1: time's over, we step up onto this scene. We're just
Speaker 1: kind of listening and people are like asking questions, are
Speaker 1: you here with us? You know, typical ghosts trended question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the same thing you would see on like ghost Hunters.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And Dave and I are on the creakiest set
Speaker 1: of stairs ever. It's pitch and dark, and Kim and
Speaker 1: I are looking at each other like just staring like well,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like my foot getting tired, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Well, And you know, because we were so new, you
Speaker 2: don't want to draw attention to yourself.
Speaker 1: You don't know the rules yet.
Speaker 2: You know, it's the first experience you have as a
Speaker 2: paranormal investigator, and there you are making this noise and
Speaker 2: you don't know what to say. You say, tag, yeah,
Speaker 2: tag me on stairs.
Speaker 1: I'm squeaky. Yeah. It was funny.
Speaker 2: So let's go back a little bit about the process
Speaker 2: once you get to a building.
Speaker 1: So let's say we walk into Building one, right.
Speaker 2: Walk into Building one and lights are off, and it
Speaker 2: was kind of creepy because you kind of got to
Speaker 2: kind of feel your way around through this maze.
Speaker 1: Of equipment with some handrails, you don't have to like
Speaker 1: grab some chainsaws.
Speaker 2: And you know, the lady, our leader, Kim, she did
Speaker 2: like China. She had a red light and she would
Speaker 2: chine it on the ground so you could kind of see.
Speaker 2: But once you got in there, she said, Okay, now
Speaker 2: we're going to do five minutes of silence, and so
Speaker 2: you're supposed to start out trying to be as still
Speaker 2: as you can be and as quiet as you can
Speaker 2: be for five minutes and just listen.
Speaker 1: And it sounded a lot like this, Hello, darkness, my friend. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it sounded a lot more like this, yeah, because
Speaker 2: the wind was blowing and things are rattling and yeah,
Speaker 2: which made it I think tough to kind of separate
Speaker 2: maybe something that was paranormal from something that was totally nai.
Speaker 1: And they were a bit more what's the word into it. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: You could hear a sound and be like that was
Speaker 1: a ghost, or you could be like, oh, that was
Speaker 1: the wind. And they were a little more on the
Speaker 1: wind side.
Speaker 2: They definitely were waiting for They were skeptical. And this
Speaker 2: is one thing I really appreciated about Big River Normal.
Speaker 2: They weren't trying to sensationalize anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a good way to put it. They
Speaker 1: weren't sensationalizing anything. If they heard a noise that was
Speaker 1: like bing bang kind of over by the door, they'd
Speaker 1: be like, that was probably the one win. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: just move on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they'd say tag probably the wind.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you know, it was interesting to me because that
Speaker 2: is totally the opposite of what you find on a
Speaker 2: lot of ghost hunting shows.
Speaker 1: At least what we see on Ghost of Me. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe I think a lot of maybe like
Speaker 2: individual like YouTubers that go out I don't maybe they
Speaker 2: don't do that, but you've got to get ratings. If
Speaker 2: you're on like the Discovery Channel, you need to get ratings, right,
Speaker 2: and if you're not doing things and finding things, then
Speaker 2: you're not going to get people to continue watching exactly.
Speaker 1: And so I think that gets to their head. I
Speaker 1: think so.
Speaker 2: And you know they're probably a little prone to hear
Speaker 2: and see everything when there isn't really anything there.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little uh confirmation biased, Yeah, they embellished maybe,
Speaker 1: but Big River Paranormal.
Speaker 2: I did not see that one Scotia a bit.
Speaker 1: And if you did, you know, see it for a second.
Speaker 1: Like I'll mention later, they were very quick to acknowledge
Speaker 1: what you were thinking, and they all came to a
Speaker 1: conclusion that, yeah, was probably this factor that made that noise.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know one thing about it, because you're
Speaker 2: you're like a guy who builds things, right, so you
Speaker 2: have a very.
Speaker 1: Logical, very mechanical mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I'm probably a little more on the
Speaker 2: creative side. So but I am still very logical. I've
Speaker 2: experienced a lot of things in life, so I don't
Speaker 2: just believe crap just because I want to believe it,
Speaker 2: because I don't even know what I want to believe.
Speaker 2: I just want to believe the right thing, you know.
Speaker 2: So when we went through this, I think we were
Speaker 2: not necessarily skeptical. We were open to hear and to
Speaker 2: believe and experience stuff, but we were not overly trying
Speaker 2: to like make everything a paranormal event like I think
Speaker 2: Matt and Daniel. I think they were probably a little
Speaker 2: more apt to believe stuff than maybe we were at
Speaker 2: the time, because they've gone on enough things and had
Speaker 2: enough experiences that they they could associate things and noises
Speaker 2: with stuff they caught stuff on EVP.
Speaker 1: Or they've heard, they've heard previous experiences that make them
Speaker 1: more open, like to believe Matt and Daniel have had
Speaker 1: all these examples of things that have happened, where Dad
Speaker 1: and I have had very little, I mean, nothing really
Speaker 1: ghosty in my life.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I mean we went to these places
Speaker 2: to experience stuff, and we hear stories of people experiencing stuff,
Speaker 2: but our experiencing of stuff is very minimal, right, I
Speaker 2: mean when we went to the Gooding Tuberculosis Hospital, I
Speaker 2: didn't experience anything that was conclusively paranormal. Same with Milner's Gate.
Speaker 2: So it's different for us, but we had lots of
Speaker 2: experiences exactly.
Speaker 1: So like with l hunting, I've been out in the
Speaker 1: woods a couple of days. We've heard bugles, We've heard
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, and then you hear a squirrel
Speaker 1: drop us a pine cone. You know, you hear that
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, that sounds a lot like a
Speaker 1: breaking stick. And you hear these noises you hear maybe
Speaker 1: like a wind whistling, like is that a bugle away? Off?
Speaker 1: You know, you're very hyper aware because you know that
Speaker 1: those things are in that area and there's something that
Speaker 1: can happen. Right, So if you took somebody who was
Speaker 1: maybe not so in tuned to that area and you
Speaker 1: they haven't seen elk, they haven't heard the bugle, they
Speaker 1: haven't heard an elk break a stick as a squirrel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the wind. Because your brain is like elk, elk, elk,
Speaker 1: elk elk, and then their brain is like, there's no
Speaker 1: such thing as elk.
Speaker 2: So you know, so sometimes that unexperienced brain, like ours,
Speaker 2: our hack brain, I think is sometimes.
Speaker 1: An advantage occasionally, Yeah, and because so a disadvantage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, because we're maybe a little more skeptical. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, I think it's a good equilibrium.
Speaker 2: And that's one thing I appreciated it about Big Paranormal
Speaker 2: is that they they want people to experience, and they
Speaker 2: don't want people just to believe. They want to They
Speaker 2: want the criticism along with the people that believe. And
Speaker 2: I thought it was really well done.
Speaker 1: It was really well done. Yeah, So okay, let's keep going.
Speaker 2: So we get to that first building, we do our
Speaker 2: quiet time, and then after the quiet time, you know,
Speaker 2: you're free to talk and to maybe turn your flashlight
Speaker 2: on and look around a little bit. And that they
Speaker 2: said that sometimes during those moments after the quiet time,
Speaker 2: when you're just talking, it's almost like it gives freedom
Speaker 2: for paranormal entities to interact or the energy that you're
Speaker 2: bringing and stimulate something and maybe you don't hear it,
Speaker 2: but later a lot of times when they're listening to
Speaker 2: the recorded EVP, they will catch voices and stuff that
Speaker 2: you do not hear when you're there talking or whatever.
Speaker 2: And so Kim and some of the other people's started
Speaker 2: asking questions. I know Matt brought a baseball and he
Speaker 2: was always say, hey, I brought a baseball.
Speaker 1: Do you want to play baseball? Yeah? And I'll bring
Speaker 1: in some positivity.
Speaker 2: Right And they would say, you know, is anybody here,
Speaker 2: and they'd be very respectful, like saying, we don't want
Speaker 2: to scare you or we're not trying to invade your space.
Speaker 2: We just want to know if you're hear can you
Speaker 2: give us a sign YEP.
Speaker 1: It's hard because in my brain I'm like, come on,
Speaker 1: you big sissy. Ye, let's see what you got.
Speaker 2: Oh a big tough guy.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to prison because I stabbed a
Speaker 1: lady twenty nine times? Oh what's that little one hundred
Speaker 1: and ten pound girl going to do when you got
Speaker 1: a big old knife two hundred and five chicken if
Speaker 1: you're yeah, yeah, I wanted to like smack talk a
Speaker 1: little bit, but I was a little get him angry.
Speaker 1: You know, why don't you come punch me in the
Speaker 1: face of little sissy. Yeah, they didn't do that.
Speaker 2: I you know that they were very respectful and then
Speaker 2: when they left, they would, you know, basically say thank
Speaker 2: you for your time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But in my brain, I'm like, yeah, why don't
Speaker 1: you keep doing your time? You know?
Speaker 2: Turd? Yeah, yeah, so I the same thing. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: so maybe the way to get them to manifest is
Speaker 2: to just be belligerent and try to make them angry
Speaker 2: and then something friction going yours lawn, You're ignorant, disgusting, whattable,
Speaker 2: you foul not just a weak electoral chemical bonds.
Speaker 4: I have seen some disgusting.
Speaker 2: Okay, Are these really spirits of people that have died
Speaker 2: that have not passed on or are these things counterfeits?
Speaker 2: Are they demons? Are the evil spirits that are are
Speaker 2: manifesting and pretending to be people that were.
Speaker 1: There because they know that areas like hotspot or something.
Speaker 2: Right and I know we talked in the last topics
Speaker 2: that we did, we talked about these possible disembodied spirits
Speaker 2: that are looking for a home, right, and so you
Speaker 2: know that was in my mind. It's like, Okay, are
Speaker 2: these human spirits or are these evil spirits? Or are
Speaker 2: they both the same? You know, what are these things
Speaker 2: if they're really real? But I was waiting. I was
Speaker 2: hoping that something in that first building would happen. There
Speaker 2: were like some noises and some bangs, but kind of,
Speaker 2: like our leader said, like, you know, that's probably just
Speaker 2: the win.
Speaker 1: She often said, and that's where we kind of give
Speaker 1: them credits like tag wind outside, tag outside airplane. Right.
Speaker 1: You know, she's not just being like, oh I heard
Speaker 1: a ping pang, Oh that must be a ghost. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, she's she's really giving it an investigatory kind
Speaker 1: of mindset. And I appreciated her.
Speaker 2: She was kind of lighthearted, like you know, she wasn't
Speaker 2: like overly dramatic and serious. She was talkative, and she
Speaker 2: engaged the people that were there. She tried to get
Speaker 2: people involved. She'd ask questions. I thought she did good job,
Speaker 2: So shout out to Kim, good job.
Speaker 1: Good work. So let's go to the second belt second
Speaker 1: buildings where I look like a gouchebag.
Speaker 2: So the second building we go into is like this
Speaker 2: main jail area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd say four stories high. Yeah, prison cells, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they with ten cells wide, so forty cells on
Speaker 1: either side several sided's eighty cells in the same building.
Speaker 1: And it's an old building. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the paint's like curling off the wall.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Old like three inch black pipe tubing as railing.
Speaker 1: Yea very screwed together fittings. And the jail cells are
Speaker 1: all operated off of a singular giant lever lever kind
Speaker 1: of mechanism at the front of the building.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's very creepy because I don't know how to
Speaker 1: describe it. It's it's like it's a four foot catwalk
Speaker 1: in front of each jail cell, going four stories up,
Speaker 1: and you know between there is this ghostly hallway and
Speaker 1: then on the back side is the same.
Speaker 2: Thing mirrored, and then down the middle are these observations
Speaker 2: always the catwalk. Then I kept thinking this looks steam
Speaker 2: punk because.
Speaker 1: The levers, well, it is things that was the roll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was that kind of thing. It was like techie,
Speaker 2: but it was high tech then. But it was like
Speaker 2: levers and gears and.
Speaker 1: Yep, it looked as though I don't know exactly how
Speaker 1: it worked. So at the front of the building, let's say,
Speaker 1: on the right side of the continuous wall of jail cells,
Speaker 1: is these four levers, and each lever would operate the
Speaker 1: opening and closing the entire set of doors on an
Speaker 1: entire floor, the entire floor. So you could pull lever
Speaker 1: a and it would open floor one and all the
Speaker 1: prisoners that have been stuck in there would come out,
Speaker 1: and then you could close that and vice versa. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure there was a way to go and open
Speaker 1: each door. Yeah, but the crazy part was that there
Speaker 1: was only a four foot catwalk in front of each yeah,
Speaker 1: or of jail cells. Yeah, so you were up on there,
Speaker 1: and if you were up on the fourth floor, you're
Speaker 1: really you're probably twenty five thirty feet up in the air. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was crazy, it was.
Speaker 2: It was kind of spooky, and you got.
Speaker 1: To remember everything was dark. Yeah, it was darker this time,
Speaker 1: say for the little bit of light that was through
Speaker 1: the windows. So here's here's something interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of the windows, so the wind is outside blowing,
Speaker 2: You're in this very narrow building, that houses this, these
Speaker 2: all of these jail cells, and we do our quiet time.
Speaker 2: We go in there, quiet time, five minutes of silence.
Speaker 1: Then you start hearing now yeah yep.
Speaker 2: And they're like, what is that? Is somebody speaking to us?
Speaker 2: Is somebody trying to get our attention? If somebody does
Speaker 2: or if somebody is, do it again, make that knocking
Speaker 2: noise again?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah again.
Speaker 2: And it was like they kept doing it, and I'm
Speaker 2: like looking around, okay, because I'm a hack. So they're
Speaker 2: talking to it. They're trying to say, Okay, something's going
Speaker 2: on here.
Speaker 1: This is this is real. And I'm looking up and.
Speaker 2: I'm going that sounds like that sounds like a window
Speaker 2: rattling up to me. So I'm thinking it in my brain.
Speaker 1: Because you grew up on kind of an old farmhouse,
Speaker 1: right so, and I could tell it was up into
Speaker 1: the left by the witches, away from the catwalk and
Speaker 1: away from the jail cell. Yeah, away from the jail sell.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking way up there and I'm trying to,
Speaker 2: you know, see if there's a window or something rattling
Speaker 2: because of the wind.
Speaker 1: And while I'm thinking it, then well you tell it
Speaker 1: from here. Austin and then so apparently Dad's thinking this.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this, but I'm making notes of our experiences,
Speaker 1: trying to document what time we heard a noise, what time,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to keep a dialogue and a diary
Speaker 1: of what's happening, because if we hear something really cool
Speaker 1: at ten thirty, I can kind of track that back
Speaker 1: to our.
Speaker 2: Because you had a recorder going in your pocket.
Speaker 1: In my pocket, so I was actually wearing these shorts.
Speaker 1: So I use my note app to write out that
Speaker 1: sounds a lot like a loose window frame. And I
Speaker 1: go show Dad and he looks at me, like yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I go over and I start poking windows.
Speaker 1: And the first window was quiet. It was very tight.
Speaker 1: It was tight, almost like swollen shut with water damage.
Speaker 1: I went to the next one was that it was
Speaker 1: like it was a window, but.
Speaker 2: You didn't say tag. You're supposed to say tag. It
Speaker 2: was me pushing a window. I just was exploring. And
Speaker 2: then I think both of us at the same time
Speaker 2: to yeah, I think that's just.
Speaker 1: A window rattling from the wind. And then I felt
Speaker 1: like a douche because I crushed everybody's like yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh there, I guess that's not what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But in my defense, I was HVAC like drafts and
Speaker 1: poor window seals and stuff are something that people ask
Speaker 1: me up and all kinds of stuff. So I listened
Speaker 1: for that. When I turn on their their air conditioner
Speaker 1: and the big fan in the middle of their house
Speaker 1: goes and I hear their windows, I'm like, you need
Speaker 1: to replace that window. Yeah. So I thought of that,
Speaker 1: and I felt bad kind of, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let it continue. I didn't feel bad.
Speaker 2: In fact, you know, that was another thing that impressed
Speaker 2: me because you said that and they received it exactly
Speaker 2: and they didn't try to glorify it or anything. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you're right.
Speaker 1: They were like, yo, can you do that again? And
Speaker 1: then she actually talked into the microphone that she was
Speaker 1: recording with and was like, guest tapping window, that's the
Speaker 1: sound of the window. Yeah, She's like, so last recording,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And she made it very clear, and
Speaker 1: I really respected that because it wasn't like they were
Speaker 1: trying like, what's that one Ghostbusters video? I am? I
Speaker 1: always call him Ghostbusters because that's what it feels like
Speaker 1: but he's like holding a flashlight or something in his hand.
Speaker 1: It was a keys keys and he's like, come take
Speaker 1: these keys out of my hand. And you can watch
Speaker 1: his arm like flex and then release and then flex
Speaker 1: again and see like chucks his keys over his shoulders.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 2: That was back in the days of VHS tape and
Speaker 2: we were watching this in a house way a long
Speaker 2: time ago. It was like when this first started becoming
Speaker 2: a thing. And I don't remember the name of that either,
Speaker 2: that thing, but it was like ghost ghostbusters, yeah, ghost
Speaker 2: hunders go anyway, it was some weird thing where they
Speaker 2: would go out and they'd look for ghosts. I had
Speaker 2: VCR equipment we recorded that episode. I was able to
Speaker 2: go back frame by frame. I had this little spinny
Speaker 2: dial and I could spin back and we went through
Speaker 2: step through frame by frame flex and watch this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just.
Speaker 2: Totally threw the keys and it was like night vision.
Speaker 2: So it was in that green thing. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: so stupid.
Speaker 1: You can get away with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, they didn't do that, and I thought
Speaker 2: that was cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They were very quick to just be like that's
Speaker 1: a window, let's move on.
Speaker 2: So I'll throw out something here. If you want to
Speaker 2: check out some of their investigations and some of the
Speaker 2: things that they recorded, you can go to Big River
Speaker 2: Paranormal and just google it. It'll come up and you
Speaker 2: can go to their media section and investigation section. They
Speaker 2: actually cut out a lot of the EVPs, the recordings
Speaker 2: and video of things that have happened, so you.
Speaker 1: Can look at some of that stuff. You imagine that
Speaker 1: job just recording listening through it. You probably know what
Speaker 1: to listen to, so you can kind of space out
Speaker 1: until you hear it.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 2: I know, Dan and Matt they take their recordings, they
Speaker 2: record and use different equipment, and then they go through
Speaker 2: and they go through it and look at the wave signals,
Speaker 2: and then they listen to those sections and a lot
Speaker 2: of times they get, you know, things that they think
Speaker 2: are being said, which is you know, maybe we'll show
Speaker 2: some of that in one of our open Mic and
Speaker 2: Austin episodes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan and Matt actually gave us, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: you'll probably know this situation I was talking about, but
Speaker 1: we were in a very narrow hallway and it was
Speaker 1: kind of weird because there's a drop off about four
Speaker 1: feet on either side of this.
Speaker 2: Hallway talking about on the grates.
Speaker 1: Yep, And that was the only time I was actually scared.
Speaker 1: I think was that that was the last location we
Speaker 1: went to. Was what was the last location? But that
Speaker 1: that location kind of gave me the like, who something
Speaker 1: spooky's happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, See for me, it happened not there, it
Speaker 2: happened at the maximum security area.
Speaker 1: Okay, that one was weird, but anyway, that's a we'll
Speaker 1: get there. But so okay, So.
Speaker 2: We did that and we ended up leading the second
Speaker 2: building and we went to the third building and it
Speaker 2: was more of the same where you did the five
Speaker 2: minutes of quiet, and we did that in every location,
Speaker 2: just about towards the end of the evening, know that
Speaker 2: those five minutes kind of fell dwindled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is okay.
Speaker 2: So the third building was a lot like the second building.
Speaker 2: It had three stories, remember, and we went up to
Speaker 2: the top. It was the place where there were the
Speaker 2: handprints inside the cell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 2: Walked down that corridor in the middle and there was
Speaker 2: like the dust particles, but we got it.
Speaker 1: Was it was really cool.
Speaker 2: We have some video of that, so you can check
Speaker 2: it out on our website. You can look at the
Speaker 2: hand prints on the walls, the burnt cell that's like
Speaker 2: totally burnt up, and the little access panels to the
Speaker 2: like water supply and and toilets and stuff down the middle.
Speaker 1: It was that was that was very weird. It was
Speaker 1: it was a weird walking down there. I think I
Speaker 1: followed you.
Speaker 2: I have a picture of following.
Speaker 1: You, and I followed you back out, but somebody was
Speaker 1: shying their flashlighting. My face kind of ruined the effect
Speaker 1: of creepiness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was from you know, we didn't really
Speaker 2: experience anything there, but that was kind of cool. After that,
Speaker 2: we went to the fourth building. The fourth building is
Speaker 2: where I kind of got creeped out, so I'll tell
Speaker 2: this story. So, yeah, this building was maximum security and
Speaker 2: it was also where they kept death row and it's
Speaker 2: also where they had the gallows. But I didn't know
Speaker 2: that at the time. I know we were going to
Speaker 2: maximum security. So we go in this building and we
Speaker 2: do our five minutes and we're there and it's windy.
Speaker 2: In fact, there was like a sign or something that
Speaker 2: was blowing around outside.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of weird because you walk in and
Speaker 1: it's i'd say like twenty percent exhibit and seventy percent
Speaker 1: historical untouched area. Yeah, so you walk in and there's
Speaker 1: like a small glass display of what people may have done,
Speaker 1: what prisoners might have been there, So it kind of
Speaker 1: throws you off. Yeah, what I thought.
Speaker 2: What I remember about that one was in the maximum
Speaker 2: security or you have the row of I think it
Speaker 2: was two stories high, and you had the jail cells,
Speaker 2: but then against the wall was a single shower, a
Speaker 2: shower spicket, and that's where they would let them out
Speaker 2: to shower in the open. There was no concealment, so
Speaker 2: the prisoners could go out and probably one at a time,
Speaker 2: and shower in front of everybody and then go back
Speaker 2: into their cell and then they'd lock it up, right,
Speaker 2: I thought that was creepy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a little creepy. It was very obviously
Speaker 1: you're not in the best spot in the jail or
Speaker 1: in the prison. But to me it was weird because
Speaker 1: you walk in and you see this brand new kind
Speaker 1: of bookcase with glass and it shows you know, all
Speaker 1: these anxiicely printed everything, and then you walk away and
Speaker 1: you're like, this is not the same area. Kind of
Speaker 1: like you get a little weird mix of reality because yeah,
Speaker 1: contrast and it kind of makes you feel a little
Speaker 1: more at home, but a little more not at home.
Speaker 1: It's very weird. And then in the background you've got
Speaker 1: this this sign of a gated off area, like please
Speaker 1: don't go back here, we're digging a hole for the
Speaker 1: pipe or whatever. Yeah, and there's this little tin sinus
Speaker 1: just going bang bang, Yeah. Drink because, like we said,
Speaker 1: it's the windy Yeah, and you gotta remember it is dark.
Speaker 1: It is very dark.
Speaker 2: Although that when you first come into that Maximum Security building,
Speaker 2: because they had the big double doors you'd go, there
Speaker 2: was a lot of light coming from the courtyard. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you kind of go around the corner and that
Speaker 2: was like reflecting off of the different walls. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it wasn't very dark there. So we didn't stay there
Speaker 2: very long. I didn't even think. We did our five
Speaker 2: minute quiet time there. They led us around the backside
Speaker 2: to the opposite side of Maximum Security, which was a
Speaker 2: mirror image of the other side, but it was dark.
Speaker 1: That's where in this building we kind of adjusted to
Speaker 1: the clanging and the different noises we may have heard.
Speaker 1: And then we did a short period of silence for
Speaker 1: a quiet time, and they had heard some weird noises, Yeah,
Speaker 1: over there. So at the same time, Dan and Matt
Speaker 1: and Kim walked around on the opposite sides of the building,
Speaker 1: but to the other side of the building, so they
Speaker 1: heard a bunch of noise and then Dave actually was
Speaker 1: the one that called us over to the other side.
Speaker 1: He kind of wanders over there ten minutes later, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he says she's like, hey, you come over on
Speaker 1: this side. So we go on to the other side,
Speaker 1: and then we hear the clanging back to the first
Speaker 1: side that we were on, and at this point Dad
Speaker 1: decides he's like, oh, what do those stairs do?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: No, okay.
Speaker 2: So everybody's sitting over there and being quiet in the dark,
Speaker 2: and a couple of ladies were looking off a little
Speaker 2: bit to the right the side of the jails, and
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, I wonder if they're seeing, you know,
Speaker 2: like how the levers open the jail cells up and stuff.
Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, I want to see that too.
Speaker 2: So I kind of went over there, and I was
Speaker 2: just walking. I wasn't trying to be overly sneaky or anything.
Speaker 2: But when I got over there, I looked up and was.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, there's stairs and you could barely see it
Speaker 1: in the dark. There's stairs that go up.
Speaker 2: So I went over there and I thought, well, they're
Speaker 2: probably blocked off. But when I get over there, they
Speaker 2: were open. And so everybody else is kind of over
Speaker 2: there listening, hearing the clangy noises.
Speaker 1: I can hear you guys talking. Well, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go up these stairs a little bit.
Speaker 2: So I went up the stairs and then when I
Speaker 2: got to the stairs, I noticed that there's like this
Speaker 2: three doors and they're open. So I had to look
Speaker 2: in the doors. So I went to the first door
Speaker 2: and looked in there, and it was like another row
Speaker 2: of cells, like four cells, but these were different. These
Speaker 2: were like side by side, but they were It was
Speaker 2: weird that they were set apart and I didn't know
Speaker 2: what they were. They just were set apart. There were
Speaker 2: like four, maybe three or four cells there. They all
Speaker 2: had stuff in them, original stuff.
Speaker 1: Radios, comforters, pillows like.
Speaker 2: Bedding, yeah, betting, stuff like that, and and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: that's weird. Then I went back out and then I
Speaker 2: went to another doorway and I looked in there and
Speaker 2: there was like a room and so I walked in
Speaker 2: there in this big room and it's totally dark.
Speaker 1: Completely dark, with a two tone floor.
Speaker 2: And so I go in there and I look and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I see like a big window. First
Speaker 2: I thought it was like a giant TV, like what
Speaker 2: I have a flat panel on the wall. But I
Speaker 2: looked at it like, no, that's a window, so I
Speaker 2: wouldn't look. And then I realized that that was the gallows.
Speaker 2: And I was in the observation room for the gallows.
Speaker 2: And then I kind of like kind of got this
Speaker 2: weird creepy feeling because I realized that that first room
Speaker 2: I went to was death row, right, And then I
Speaker 2: started thinking about, I know from our research, this is
Speaker 2: the gallows, this is the new gallows they built. And
Speaker 2: there was only one execution that took place there, and
Speaker 2: that was the Snowden Edward Snowden or whatever, not Edward,
Speaker 2: but the other Snowden, the Idaho Jack the Ripper.
Speaker 6: Raymond Snowdon, Raymond snow Raymond Snowdon, otherwise known as Idaho's
Speaker 6: Jack the Ripper. Oh yeah, he was not a very
Speaker 6: nice guy. The lady's name that was killed was Cora Dean.
Speaker 6: He propositions her, she says no, rejects his advances. He's
Speaker 6: a little baby and says, well, you make a choice.
Speaker 6: Either you let me rape you or I am going
Speaker 6: to slit your throat. She promptly kicks him in the groin. Nice, sure,
Speaker 6: yes him that.
Speaker 7: But that infuriates him, of course, so he ends up
Speaker 7: slitting her throat so deeply that it severs her spinal cord,
Speaker 7: and then he proceeds to stab her twenty.
Speaker 1: Nine times that way too many.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he was convicted. He was put on death row.
Speaker 6: Fast forward. Finally his time has come and they march
Speaker 6: him down to the hangman's news And as he's standing
Speaker 6: there on the trap door, they placed the noose over
Speaker 6: his neck and the hangman pulls the lever and he
Speaker 6: falls and I guess the height was miscalculated because it
Speaker 6: doesn't snap his neck chunk. This was a new system.
Speaker 6: It was like the first. It was used for an
Speaker 6: actual hanging, and there was like a viewing pane of
Speaker 6: glass where the family members and stuff could watch the
Speaker 6: hanging take place of the victim. Right, And when the
Speaker 6: trap door slung down and he fell through, the force
Speaker 6: made the thing shake. It shattered the window.
Speaker 7: Whoa yeah, correct, so the glass went everywhere and then
Speaker 7: it didn't break his neck, so he hung there and
Speaker 7: kicked for like sixteen minutes before he died.
Speaker 6: Wow. Yeah, and bad things happened to your body. I
Speaker 6: guess when you're hanging and dying, like all your bodily
Speaker 6: functions release makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So there was a big mess and he was twitching
Speaker 6: and jerking and slopping things around it. It was a
Speaker 6: bad deal.
Speaker 1: Girls.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I kind of got I wasn't scared, but I
Speaker 8: just realized all of a sudden, if there was any
Speaker 8: place at any time where something like nefarious could take place,
Speaker 8: it was right then.
Speaker 2: Because I was all alone away from you guys on
Speaker 2: a different floor, far enough away that I couldn't see
Speaker 2: him and they couldn't see me.
Speaker 1: And I was up there, and I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't be here by myself, in the dark,
Speaker 1: in the gallows where spirits and people died. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: creepy too, because you see this giant lever sticking out
Speaker 1: of the floor, and the floor is all wood so
Speaker 1: it starts off all cement, like the entire area cement,
Speaker 1: and then there's this giant wooden floor, and then in
Speaker 1: the middle of the floor is a square like a
Speaker 1: black outline of a square, and then by it, and
Speaker 1: then a lever by it, and then above that is
Speaker 1: a giant eyebolt hand from where the news. Yes, so bad.
Speaker 1: But so Dad's out wandering around having his adventure, and
Speaker 1: I am downstairs listening to the lady chew out, these
Speaker 1: other two girls not chew out, but like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: let's stay over here. We don't want other noises happening. Wall.
Speaker 1: We're investigating, and that's gone, and I'm like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: I'm wondering. And then like two minutes later on the
Speaker 1: stairs we hear.
Speaker 2: Going down well, and of course they all I'm dressed
Speaker 2: totally in black. Yeah, I have a black jacket, I
Speaker 2: have black hat, I have dark pants, black shoes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then out of nowhere, all the lights like
Speaker 1: flick over to that direction, and I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: that's my dad. He's sneaky and he's deaf. Oh god. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, anyway, so I went back and joined the rest
Speaker 2: of the group and we waited to see if we
Speaker 2: could hear anything in there, and then all of us
Speaker 2: went upstairs to the gallows yeah, and the death row area,
Speaker 2: and then we actually got to go down to the
Speaker 2: bottom underneath the gallows where I thought it was, yeah,
Speaker 2: where the body would actually hang. And that's where Snowden
Speaker 2: hung for fifteen minutes, choking to death.
Speaker 1: Which may not have deserved it completely. Yeah, well I
Speaker 1: think he probably did.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: Anyway. That was a weird.
Speaker 2: Actually, that was probably my only real scary moment of
Speaker 2: the evening when I realized where I was at.
Speaker 1: That had no idea where I was at, and.
Speaker 2: Then I saw the abangment's gallows.
Speaker 1: And like, oh God, rewind. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So after we got done a maximum security, then we
Speaker 2: went outside and we walked across the courtyard which used
Speaker 2: to be where they had the gallows.
Speaker 1: It was like the original execution area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it became a rose garden. But we
Speaker 2: went across that to a place called the Cooler.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: When we got there, I thought that was like the
Speaker 2: place where they would put you in solitary confinement, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was like pre solitary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it was like before you go
Speaker 2: to solitary, you're going to go here, and it's not
Speaker 2: as bad as solitary, but it's.
Speaker 1: Pretty pretty shitty. Yeah. Yeah, they hit a boiler in there.
Speaker 1: Radiator in there though, that would maybe keep people warm maybe.
Speaker 2: Well that was yeah, that was weird.
Speaker 1: So you go in there.
Speaker 2: These were like stone or concrete cells.
Speaker 1: They reminded me of like a you know, like an old.
Speaker 2: Kind of pueblo building.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They were really kind of just solid masonry. They were low,
Speaker 2: very low.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it probably had so let's say the
Speaker 1: building was probably twenty by twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not much bigger than that. Yeah, the walls
Speaker 2: were maybe a foot.
Speaker 1: Then there was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven
Speaker 1: cells eight cells in there, and they were very narrow cells,
Speaker 1: barely enough for you to you know.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe four feet wide five feet maybe yeh, and
Speaker 2: maybe seven feet deep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if the math works out. A
Speaker 1: few put it that way, but it was very confined.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there were there wasn't any like cots or
Speaker 2: anything in those.
Speaker 1: It was just laying on the floor and shit in
Speaker 1: the bucket kind of situation. Yeah. So it's funny. So
Speaker 1: we walk in there and there's a radiator. So there's
Speaker 1: an entry room which was probably ten by five.
Speaker 2: And again I wonder remind people it is like really
Speaker 2: really Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's very dark and in the each individual cell it is,
Speaker 1: there's no yeah, it's pitch black. So Kim was number
Speaker 1: one maybe, and you and I and Matt and Dan
Speaker 1: and Dave and we were kind of the first ones in.
Speaker 1: So we all kind of assume a position. It's out
Speaker 1: of the way and you could get inside of these cells.
Speaker 1: All the cells were open, you. Yeah, So Dave goes
Speaker 1: and gets in a kind of back corner cell, and
Speaker 1: then we continue our quiet time, and then randomly this
Speaker 1: lady goes, oh, yeah, because Dave. Dave had sneakily, not
Speaker 1: intentionally sneakily, but he had made his way into a
Speaker 1: cell quietly to respect everybody, and just kind of stood
Speaker 1: there listening. And then the lady kind of like walked
Speaker 1: in and looked over and just saw this black figure.
Speaker 1: I didn't see.
Speaker 2: Its funny, well, you know, to give our listeners kind
Speaker 2: of an idea of what this cooler was like, imagine
Speaker 2: going into a old shower, like in an old high
Speaker 2: school shower location.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think of like a bathroom stall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like kind of a bathroom stall. But it was
Speaker 2: the walls are really thick, and I don't remember there
Speaker 2: being were there doors on any of the cells had
Speaker 2: or had they been removed. I think you could just
Speaker 2: walk in. I don't think there were doors on any
Speaker 2: of these cells, so it was almost like you're walking
Speaker 2: into individual little shower stalls.
Speaker 1: It felt kind of like it. Yeah, dark, and the
Speaker 1: size was about right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very moist, and yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 1: If you put your hands to either side, you couldn't
Speaker 1: fully extend your arms, and if you stood the other
Speaker 1: direction the long ways, you'd only have to take a
Speaker 1: step to touch the door and the back wall right,
Speaker 1: I mean it was only maybe a foot and a
Speaker 1: half wider than you and six inches longer than your
Speaker 1: wings for me anyway.
Speaker 2: And then right in the middle of the hall where
Speaker 2: you come in was the radiator. Yeah one, it central.
Speaker 2: It was central, right in the middle of this like
Speaker 2: entrance lobby hallway, and then all the little cells around
Speaker 2: that were you know, like shower stalls.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No toilet, no drain, nope, just you get a bucket
Speaker 2: and that's what you do your business in.
Speaker 1: So that was weird.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe we'd experience something there because it was
Speaker 2: just creepy, but nothing happened really. The wind noise was
Speaker 2: going on, it was it was cold over there, because
Speaker 2: you had to walk and it was such a weird,
Speaker 2: low profile building. But then we left there, went around
Speaker 2: the other side of that building and down a little bit,
Speaker 2: and that's where they had solitary.
Speaker 1: Confinement and that's where the batty bats go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where I mean those were gross. Now,
Speaker 2: that was like one long row of really small what
Speaker 2: four by six by They were fairly tall.
Speaker 1: You think they were eight feet tall. Yeah, And they
Speaker 1: had two maybe four inch holes for light and.
Speaker 2: Drilled through the scene and probably in foot of concrete ceiling,
Speaker 2: two four inch holes. That was your only light and
Speaker 2: that was your only air.
Speaker 1: And they said that when it would rain, it would
Speaker 1: just flood the building flood, so maybe sleeping in water water, Yeah,
Speaker 1: your feet would get all grandma feet. And there was
Speaker 1: there was little holes indentse on the floor where they
Speaker 1: put their butter butter.
Speaker 2: Probably so it would kind of hold they get knocked
Speaker 2: over in the dark because something keep it from getting
Speaker 2: knocked around. Yeah. That was disgusting. And then the doors
Speaker 2: themselves stick in my mind because they were just solid
Speaker 2: cheat mental. They looked like the door of an old
Speaker 2: an old like a submarine kind of like yeah, or
Speaker 2: like you know, like the locomotives that had the old
Speaker 2: steam engine.
Speaker 1: They'd open the door and they'd throw in coal.
Speaker 2: It was like that kind of door.
Speaker 1: Big heavy steel door. Yeah, and they had a little people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a little probably six inches tall, maybe three
Speaker 2: inches wide, and it would flip open and closed and
Speaker 2: you could maybe put food through.
Speaker 1: There or something must have been what they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's creepy and a lot of those you couldn't
Speaker 2: go in they were locked, but I would stick my
Speaker 2: camera through there and kind of those are the ones that.
Speaker 1: Had the crazy ar Yeah. They had some weird art
Speaker 1: in there, naked ladies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've got some video of that. I'll put
Speaker 2: that on the website too, But I was nervous putting
Speaker 2: my hand through there with my camera is weird. It's
Speaker 2: like what if something grabbed my farm where.
Speaker 1: You drop your phone, you'd never get it.
Speaker 2: You'd have to go in the next day and say,
Speaker 2: please let me in this solitary confinement. But out of
Speaker 2: all the places, that was like the most yucky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't.
Speaker 2: Want to be there. If you were there, you you
Speaker 2: were miserable. Imagine sleeping on that hard concrete floor in
Speaker 2: the winter.
Speaker 1: What wasn't even concrete. It was like compact sand, like
Speaker 1: borderline concrete. Yeah, it was. It was rough stucco. You
Speaker 1: would not want to be there. No comfort, zero, zero comfort.
Speaker 2: But anyway, we stayed there for a while hoping we'd
Speaker 2: hear something see something. We didn't really other than lots
Speaker 2: of windy noises. So then we went onto our last building,
Speaker 2: which was the Foehouse.
Speaker 1: And this is where I got really scared twice.
Speaker 2: You had two scary moments there, three scary moments. So
Speaker 2: this building just to describe it as I think it
Speaker 2: was three stories high. It had three stacked stories of cells,
Speaker 2: kind of like the other buildings, and they were mirror
Speaker 2: so one side had a row and then the other
Speaker 2: side had a mirrored triple story stack of jail cells.
Speaker 1: And in between the mirror would be a catwalk where
Speaker 1: a guard or whatever, a prison employee inmate would walk
Speaker 1: down and be able to peek into each cell and
Speaker 1: also maybe go to the bathroom or wash his.
Speaker 2: Hands, turn water on and off stuff like that for
Speaker 2: the cell.
Speaker 1: Maintain the cells.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was just basically a service hall. Yeah, and there
Speaker 1: was a sink and a toilet back there. It looked like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was really weird, really long. Would I
Speaker 2: be overestimating and saying it was probably one hundred yards long?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe it was fifty yards yards, So okay,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm overestimating, but I'm guessing that it's probably at
Speaker 2: least fifty yards in length. And so you had the
Speaker 2: jail cells that ran for fifty yards probably were maybe
Speaker 2: what ten fifteen cells on each row, two people per
Speaker 2: sell probably, But then when you got to this little
Speaker 2: room you're talking about in between, yeah, which was in between.
Speaker 1: Yes, So there's like a five foot wide passage going
Speaker 1: between this and two jail cells. On this five foot
Speaker 1: wide passage is a three foot wide catwalk catwalk of
Speaker 1: like steel grade rates still, and on either side you
Speaker 1: got a one foot wide hole on either side.
Speaker 2: And probably the floor itself was probably at least four
Speaker 2: feet below that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're walking down like this creaky grated steel
Speaker 1: floor with a four foot drop underneath you and a
Speaker 1: one foot hole on either side that you could easily
Speaker 1: drop four feet and smack your head on them. You
Speaker 1: can see it.
Speaker 2: And we were on the first floor, but there were
Speaker 2: like three levels above.
Speaker 1: They were pretty high so if.
Speaker 2: You were on the grade above, it would even be
Speaker 2: more creepy. Creepy, Yeah, And if you're on the one
Speaker 2: above that, it would even be more creepy because you'd
Speaker 2: be looking down through all these grades to the bottom.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So we walked down there. That was pretty creepy
Speaker 1: all the way to the end pretty much.
Speaker 2: So is that where you had your You said you
Speaker 2: had a couple of scary moments in this building.
Speaker 1: I had one scary moment right when we walked in.
Speaker 1: And they have these mannequins up on the on the
Speaker 1: top floor, kind of like one's a guard with a
Speaker 1: big hat and he's got his hands on his hips,
Speaker 1: being tough, and the other one looks like maybe he's
Speaker 1: a prisoner or something. He's like holding onto a railing.
Speaker 1: And right when we walked in, I heard her say
Speaker 1: something about mannequins, or maybe she didn't say right away.
Speaker 2: I think we were in there and then people noticed
Speaker 2: it or something.
Speaker 1: And then she said, but I saw this black figure
Speaker 1: of a guy up above me a floor, and I
Speaker 1: was like, like, my heart jumped up. I saw the
Speaker 1: shad open, and then she was like, there's mannequins in here,
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, they scared the crap.
Speaker 2: I know, they spent a lot of time running back
Speaker 2: and forth to the either side because they kept hearing
Speaker 2: noises on one side, and then they'd run over there,
Speaker 2: and then they'd hear noises on the side we started on,
Speaker 2: and we'd run back over there, and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I think maybe we heard a few things that were
Speaker 2: kind of interesting. And then and then we all got
Speaker 2: in that center hallway access thing. Yeah, so and.
Speaker 1: That's where the weirdest thing for me happened. I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we had Dan and Matt.
Speaker 2: They went in there first. They were ahead of us,
Speaker 2: and they had their little uh low like light AMF
Speaker 2: detector and Dad and I were right behind it, and
Speaker 2: they were asking questions and just about every time he'd
Speaker 2: ask you question, the light that EMF reader would go
Speaker 2: yeah with green, yellow, red, get red and deep and
Speaker 2: so there was some magnetic frequency that it was going on.
Speaker 1: And it was a little weird because he would have see, like,
Speaker 1: are you in here with us? And it would be
Speaker 1: like yeah, it would like it would do its thing
Speaker 1: and spark up. So that was a little weird and
Speaker 1: it kind of died down and I kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to stay a little bit, and Dad and everybody.
Speaker 2: Else can everybody else came in. Know what happened if
Speaker 2: you remember when we're in there, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: one of the ladies that was with us said, I
Speaker 2: got to get out of here a little anxiety. I am,
Speaker 2: I'm feeling nauseous. I've got to get out of here.
Speaker 2: And she was having some kind of strange reaction to
Speaker 2: the darkness or entity or sundering, and she needed out.
Speaker 2: So everybody besides us, because we hung back, they vacated
Speaker 2: pretty quick. Dave left, the lady left, everybody else basically
Speaker 2: was trudging down.
Speaker 1: This little rampway walkway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I kind of hung back because I
Speaker 2: wanted to get some video walking out, and so I did,
Speaker 2: I'll put that on the website. So then I start
Speaker 2: walking out, and I'm using the light on my camera
Speaker 2: video to kind of see what I'm doing. And then
Speaker 2: so I just go walking out. But I didn't know
Speaker 2: you weren't following me.
Speaker 1: Yep. I was about maybe twenty steps behind my dad
Speaker 1: because these other guys were down there with their stuff
Speaker 1: as far as they could go. Yeah, they were at
Speaker 1: the very end, and I were doing this stuff with
Speaker 1: their lights, and I wanted to kind of see what
Speaker 1: was going on. But at the same time, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to just kind of abandon my little group and
Speaker 1: hang out with these two people I don't know that well,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm in a dark tunnel. It's not
Speaker 1: cool to hang out with random people in a dark tunnel.
Speaker 1: So I kind of start walking behind Dad on this
Speaker 1: narrow catwalk where there's a four foot drop and a well,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, hole on either side.
Speaker 2: One thing I should say before that, and this is
Speaker 2: after the gal left Matt and Daniel. One of them said,
Speaker 2: I'm feeling really weird. I feel like my legs I've
Speaker 2: got a cold feeling like he's tingling on my legs.
Speaker 2: And then the other one said, yeah, me too, And
Speaker 2: then I think that's right after that's when the lady
Speaker 2: got nauseous and had to leave, right and then so
Speaker 2: then they march out, and then I march out after them,
Speaker 2: and then you're hanging back there.
Speaker 1: Them kind of like in between, like do I stay
Speaker 1: with these guys or do I go with my group,
Speaker 1: my dad, my friend Dave, you know, So finally I
Speaker 1: like I'll just go out the beat being in stuff
Speaker 1: had kind of stopped, and I was like, I'll just
Speaker 1: follow the group out, you know, at this point, and
Speaker 1: I start walking behind my dad, but I'm pretty far
Speaker 1: behind him. Yeah, And it was all fine and dandy
Speaker 1: because he's got the reflection off the walls kind of
Speaker 1: coming back. I can see where the grade is because,
Speaker 1: like I said, there's a wonder hole on either side
Speaker 1: that you could drop four feet. And then Dad passes
Speaker 1: through the walkway door entrance and turn lance and then
Speaker 1: pitch black and I'm like, oh no, I can't see anything.
Speaker 1: So I'm like reaching out for the walls, but I'm
Speaker 1: kind of afraid because she's like there's black widows and
Speaker 1: stuff that we've grabbed, and so I'm like kind of
Speaker 1: like tenderly watching the walls, like please just don't fall
Speaker 1: and hit my head and scream like a little girl.
Speaker 1: That's when I was probably the most scared, because I
Speaker 1: thought for sure I was gonna like wander it, damn
Speaker 1: hit my head on the wall. Well, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: really fun.
Speaker 2: So you get out. You came out, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's funny. The reason I didn't look backwards and try
Speaker 2: my light backwards for you was because I was shooting.
Speaker 2: It was video, and I didn't want to turn around
Speaker 2: because it was such a cool shot walking down this
Speaker 2: weird ah way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I didn't turn.
Speaker 2: Around, and I thought, well, he has a flashlighter. He
Speaker 2: could pull his phone out and turn your phone light.
Speaker 2: So I just left you back there, and then Matt
Speaker 2: and Daniel eventually came out, and they were a little
Speaker 2: bit wigged out. I think a little bit too. They
Speaker 2: had a little bit of an experience back there in
Speaker 2: that dark area of that tunnel.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I said, the EMF detector was actually like responding.
Speaker 1: It seemed to what they were A little question would
Speaker 1: go off. Unless he's got some kind of magical button
Speaker 1: on there and he can like make it react, it'd
Speaker 1: be pretty coincidental for it to actually go off. That
Speaker 1: I watched.
Speaker 2: They I didn't see, and I don't think they would
Speaker 2: do anything like that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: We need to make contact with them and maybe get
Speaker 2: them on the podcast and let them tell some of
Speaker 2: their stories.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I want to get an EMF detector thing.
Speaker 2: I got one on my phone out.
Speaker 1: I want to get the thing he had. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: the exact same one. Just hang it from a necklace somehow,
Speaker 1: so that clearly both my hands are occupied, but my
Speaker 1: brain tells me he could touch that and make it
Speaker 1: be different. So if it was like hanging from a
Speaker 1: string on my neck, I couldn't do anything with it.
Speaker 1: Somehow would be a little more genuine. Genuine. Genuine would
Speaker 1: be a good word for me, not that I'm saying
Speaker 1: he's lying.
Speaker 2: Right, you would be less fraught with the possibility of
Speaker 2: being tampered.
Speaker 1: With because I've never met the guy before, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, so we get done with that, we go out
Speaker 2: of four house and we meet in the courtyard. Everybody
Speaker 2: kind of does a little dissertation of what they can
Speaker 2: debris experience, and then by then everybody's freezing. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: finally they let us go, and everybody's like bolting to
Speaker 2: their cars because everybody was so cold. But then we
Speaker 2: got the car and we talked about what we'd experienced
Speaker 2: and stuff, and we.
Speaker 1: What do we see on the way to the car
Speaker 1: another Well, maybe the same owl sitting on a flagpole
Speaker 1: on a pole, so it's a sign of something.
Speaker 2: But one thing we thought we need to do, we
Speaker 2: want to go back and do it again on a
Speaker 2: night that's not windy.
Speaker 1: And maybe a little more warmer, a.
Speaker 2: Little warmer not so windy, and then you know, maybe
Speaker 2: get some equipment.
Speaker 1: Now we know kind of what to expect, we can kind.
Speaker 2: Of go with a little bit better preparation for you know,
Speaker 2: trying to record or capture something.
Speaker 1: We could ask some questions. I don't think any of
Speaker 1: us said anything other than you know, talking to each other, and.
Speaker 2: I asked a few questions to you know, different people.
Speaker 1: And Kim on the other side of the coin was
Speaker 1: also asking us questions like, you know, what do you
Speaker 1: expect to see? What are your thoughts on this? You know,
Speaker 1: because you know, in her mind, the way she explained
Speaker 1: it was, you act normal things normal and paranormal will happen.
Speaker 1: It's not like you have to ask for their and
Speaker 1: they'll come on demand. You just be yourself and you
Speaker 1: have your normal energy with you and see what happens,
Speaker 1: and that'll, you know, and then we'll review later and
Speaker 1: that'll kind of.
Speaker 2: So one thing that she said, and so did Marie
Speaker 2: when we first got there. They stress that you be
Speaker 2: respectful and that you don't try to antagonize. And this
Speaker 2: is maybe why they don't do that, and that is
Speaker 2: because there are lots of stories of people who somehow
Speaker 2: make a spirit or entity attracted to them, and it
Speaker 2: attaches themselves to that person and then goes with them
Speaker 2: when they leave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they stab their wives twenty nights.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they do, but so you know,
Speaker 2: I did not feel like anything attached itself to us. Yeah. Plus,
Speaker 2: we drove so fast in that little sionics, being like
Speaker 2: it couldn't keep up anyway, zero to sixty on that.
Speaker 1: Thing is pitiful.
Speaker 2: Scary, That is scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's scary how fast you can't pull into traffic.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a good time. I thought we
Speaker 1: had a really good time. I think we need to
Speaker 1: go again.
Speaker 2: And I think also we need to kind of go
Speaker 2: back and revisit when they have the findings out on
Speaker 2: their website and then we can direct people to it.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll let us use some of those recordings and
Speaker 1: we can kind of release some of that. Well. I
Speaker 1: want to do it again for sure, absolutely less windy,
Speaker 1: maybe a little warmer. I want to wear a little
Speaker 1: less clothing, maybe kind of play the Joe bait card.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and attract some female ghosts no mamle ones whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, I'm not judging. We've talked a long time.
Speaker 2: I think it's time for us to get out of
Speaker 2: this one. I don't know what we're gonna do next, though,
Speaker 2: but we'll think of something.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and remember to getting nice. So we got
Speaker 1: some places to go.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what we have.
Speaker 1: I don't want to guess. On a replay and they
Speaker 1: forget to turn it off and listen to this, just
Speaker 1: keep from listening. Don't think that happens, but you never
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Speaker 2: Well, on that happy note, I'm ready to go to bed.
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