Speaker 1: As night side with Dan Rays.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Dan Watkins, I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 2: Aver is a breaking news story that is going on
Speaker 2: right now and it is a big breaking news story,
Speaker 2: and that is that that Israel has attacked Iran, as
Speaker 2: Iranian State Television Associated Presses reporting says the head of
Speaker 2: Iran's Paramilitary Revolutionary Guard is feared dead after and has
Speaker 2: really attacked. The report office a few of the details
Speaker 2: about what happened to General Hassan Salami of the Guard.
Speaker 2: The report on air added that one other top Guard
Speaker 2: officials other Guard top officials swell as two nuclear scientists
Speaker 2: also found dead. State Television reported the attacks at the
Speaker 2: headquarters of Iran's Paramilitary Revolutionary Guard ablaze. Multiple sites in
Speaker 2: the capitol have been hit in the attack, which israelly.
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who said targeted both nuclear and
Speaker 2: military sites and officials leading Iran's nuclear program and its
Speaker 2: ballistic missile arsenal. This is a huge story. We will clean.
Speaker 2: We will continue with the care and read story. But
Speaker 2: I'm going to monitor it and at some point we
Speaker 2: will we will go to the to this story. This
Speaker 2: is the United States is not involved. According to Marco
Speaker 2: Rubio that basically this is a uteral unilateral action by
Speaker 2: Israel against Iran. Israel had advised the US that believed
Speaker 2: the strikes were necessary for its self defense. Rubio went
Speaker 2: on to say, We're not involved in strikes against Iran,
Speaker 2: and our top priority is protecting American forces in the region.
Speaker 2: As you probably know, earlier this week, as recently, actually
Speaker 2: as yesterday, President Trump ordered embassy staff and several Middle
Speaker 2: Eastern capitals to leave the area. So let us hope
Speaker 2: that Israel is able to accomplish what it wants to accomplish,
Speaker 2: which with the the smallest loss of life amongst the
Speaker 2: Iranian people. But let us also hope that Israel is
Speaker 2: going to eliminate the nuclear threat that Iran posed, not
Speaker 2: only to Israel but to the region. Okay, we're going
Speaker 2: to get back to the story, to the local story,
Speaker 2: but at some point I want to get to the
Speaker 2: Iranian story. Let me go first to Joe is in Boston. Joe,
Speaker 2: you've held on, so I want to accommodate your call
Speaker 2: here on the Karen Reid case. Go right ahead, Joe,
Speaker 2: And if Joe isn't there, we'll put Joe on hold
Speaker 2: and we will move on to a different caller.
Speaker 3: Is.
Speaker 2: Let's try Joe one more time. Joe, are you there? Okay,
Speaker 2: let's put Joe on hold. Please, let's move on to
Speaker 2: Alex and Millis. Alex next on NIGHTSAGA right ahead.
Speaker 3: Hey Dan Hawaii.
Speaker 2: Good. Thank you for being there. Alex. You got to
Speaker 2: be quick here because this story over in Iran is.
Speaker 3: I was going to mention, is that the credibility of
Speaker 3: the plou plud uh snow cloud driver? He said he
Speaker 3: made two passes, he didn't see a body out there. Uh.
Speaker 3: And then my other question was where you're an attorney.
Speaker 3: If there's a hung jewelry, she can still be retrying.
Speaker 3: I thought, after the second time, you know you're free
Speaker 3: and clear.
Speaker 2: No, no, she could be retired. That's a decision that
Speaker 2: the attorney's office would make, and particularly in a trial
Speaker 2: that is a capital trial, very difficult to walk away
Speaker 2: if you are really committed and believed that this person
Speaker 2: you know is guilty. So yeah, that could that could
Speaker 2: happen very very easily, Alex, very easily. Thank you, my friend,
Speaker 2: Thank you for the call, and thank you good questions.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it and thanks for being there. Let's keep her
Speaker 2: only going to go to Michael and South Boston Michael
Speaker 2: next time nights.
Speaker 4: I go right ahead, Hey, Dan, how are you doing?
Speaker 4: Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, talking about Karen Reid, but trying to keep
Speaker 2: an eye on what's going on in the middle right now.
Speaker 4: I agree. It's been going on for about an hour
Speaker 4: and now I've been watching it pretty sick. Okay, getting
Speaker 4: back to uh, miss Reid, A couple of questions I'd
Speaker 4: like to ask you. First, he brought up the plow driver.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: The plot driver also witnessed several activities of police driving
Speaker 4: them around the neighborhood that nobody's paying attention to. I
Speaker 4: was wondering. But more more so, I like your thoughts
Speaker 4: about the behavior of the judge. Have you ever seen
Speaker 4: the judge act the way she has when she's actually uh,
Speaker 4: asking the the the defense, asking the prosecutor if he
Speaker 4: if he wants to object, and today she did it.
Speaker 2: I think I think that that my my observations from Afar. Again,
Speaker 2: I've not been in the courtroom. I only have been
Speaker 2: able to see what is on television and during the day,
Speaker 2: I have not the courtroom.
Speaker 4: Right, That's where I've seen it.
Speaker 5: Myself.
Speaker 2: Let me try to answer the question. Okay, if I could,
Speaker 2: all right, since you've posed the question, let me try
Speaker 2: to be responsive to it. I've not been in the courtroom.
Speaker 2: I've seen the reports. I have not followed the case
Speaker 2: on an hourly hourly basis. Every day I prepare during
Speaker 2: the day my show for that night, which sometimes touches
Speaker 2: on the Kevin on the Karen Reid case and sometimes doesn't.
Speaker 2: So I would say that my observations from AFAR would
Speaker 2: seem to suggest that this judge is probably a prosecution judge.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what her reputation is, but I
Speaker 2: do think that there's been some things that I've seen
Speaker 2: which would say that she's a little tougher on these
Speaker 2: since she has been on the prosecution. But that's that's
Speaker 2: about as far as I want to go on that area.
Speaker 4: Okay, do you know her background as far as her
Speaker 4: brother being involved with the family, as far as a
Speaker 4: defense attorney, No, I.
Speaker 2: Do not know that, And I would assume I would
Speaker 2: assume that if there was something in the judges background,
Speaker 2: that the proper recusal motions would have been made by
Speaker 2: the defense lawyers. If the defense lawyers felt.
Speaker 4: That on the birth trial.
Speaker 2: Again. I hate to, I hate to, you know, try
Speaker 2: to finish a sentence here, Michael, But let me let
Speaker 2: me try to. Okay, it's going to make it. It's
Speaker 2: going to go a lot easier if I can finish
Speaker 2: my sentence. What I'm saying is the Michael, I'm giving up.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, wy don't you say what you want to say?
Speaker 4: Because obviously no, no, no, no, I'm sorry, Dan, You're
Speaker 4: a good man. I'm just sorry. It's a very passionate trial.
Speaker 4: You have to you have to agree with that right
Speaker 4: totally going on the second time, this is a good
Speaker 4: this is a lady's life. That's that's we're talking about.
Speaker 4: And I honestly I've been falling with for two trials,
Speaker 4: and I honestly have to believe there's a lot of
Speaker 4: shady ship going on.
Speaker 2: Sorry to Okay, Sonday, we had you had to drop.
Speaker 2: Let's lose the call right now and again not only
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's amazing sometimes people are so wound
Speaker 2: up they can't even use their big words. They have
Speaker 2: to drop in a word that is going to be
Speaker 2: cut off in that cost of time. Let me go
Speaker 2: to uh Phil in Boston, Fill your next to a
Speaker 2: nice that go right head.
Speaker 5: I don't adds. I also bove my peg greggin.
Speaker 4: And it's.
Speaker 5: My question is is a tail added penalty was so
Speaker 5: important in this case? Couldn't they take those shreds of
Speaker 5: of live you goe with the glass and have it
Speaker 5: chemically compared to other cas I mean it's gonna be
Speaker 5: a way of I'm sure they're all the same way.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but why can't I take the glass?
Speaker 5: But it as a kind of chemical compound? And finally,
Speaker 5: what cat? What style cat?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 5: Was it anality? Whatever it was? Why does it they know?
Speaker 2: They know that the glass that the plastic I don't
Speaker 2: think it's glass. I think it's plastic, is from is
Speaker 2: from Karen Reid's car. There's no question about that. If
Speaker 2: if that was a question, the defense would have introduced
Speaker 2: evidence to show that that the glass. No, there's no question.
Speaker 2: The question is there has been questions raised about when
Speaker 2: it was, was it broken, when it was when it
Speaker 2: hit John O'Keefe. That's where this this is. And again
Speaker 2: without in the courtroom, Phill It's tough, it's really tough.
Speaker 5: It didn't match up, it didn't match it. Throw a car.
Speaker 2: No, well, it did match up. It did match up, okay,
Speaker 2: But the question is was it was that glass some
Speaker 2: of which was found on the lawn. Was that guy
Speaker 2: used the word glass that plas the plastic. Was that
Speaker 2: plastic fractured by when when she hit John O'Keeffe or
Speaker 2: there was some in the defense team who were trying
Speaker 2: to say that the police broke the tail light when
Speaker 2: it was back. I had been told from the scene
Speaker 2: and was broken while it was in the garage, and
Speaker 2: that was the confusion. There was this there was this
Speaker 2: video of the car, but it was like the one
Speaker 2: hundred and eight. It was the opposite video that was shown.
Speaker 2: It's this this this case has been has had so
Speaker 2: many flaws in it.
Speaker 5: Perry Mason story kind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kind of, there's been there's no no Perry
Speaker 2: Mason moment. Phil, I got a run here because I'm
Speaker 2: up again. I'm trying to watch what's going on with
Speaker 2: Israel and Iran. Thank you very much, Phil. Talk later
Speaker 2: six one, seven, four, ten thirty. I'd like to segue now.
Speaker 2: If you're on the line, Dan and Casey and Jony,
Speaker 2: I'll give you the right to talk on the Karen
Speaker 2: Reid case. But as important as that case is what's
Speaker 2: going on in Israel. It's going on in Iran tonight
Speaker 2: is even more important. And Israel has decided to barely
Speaker 2: strike a blow at Iran and to take out their
Speaker 2: nuclear capability and a lot of their military and scientific leadership.
Speaker 2: And we're going to follow that as well. So if
Speaker 2: you have a thought on that, I hate to do
Speaker 2: this to you, and I hate to segue, but this
Speaker 2: is just one of those stories that, to my way
Speaker 2: of thinking, is too big. So well, if you're on
Speaker 2: the line right now, Dan Casey or Joony and you
Speaker 2: want to talk about the Read case, that's fine. We will,
Speaker 2: but we're going to segue to what's going on in
Speaker 2: the Middle East right now, which is always dangerous because frankly,
Speaker 2: a lot of you out there probably are unaware what's
Speaker 2: going on in the Middle East, and I'll try to
Speaker 2: bring you up to date on it coming back on
Speaker 2: night starting.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling here, going to Jony in Pennsylvania. Jony,
Speaker 2: you have called in and I think you want to
Speaker 2: talk about the and Read case.
Speaker 5: Yes, oz On prayers for Israel and the Middle East.
Speaker 3: But I want to know did they look another Susta
Speaker 3: or did they just zero in on her right away.
Speaker 5: I haven't followed the case to both.
Speaker 2: I don't think that the other that other suspects were considered,
Speaker 2: and I think that from the get go there also
Speaker 2: was a federal investigation of what the Canton Police Department did,
Speaker 2: and there were no charges brought by the Feds against
Speaker 2: anyone in the Canton Police Department.
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you, all right.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jones, appreciate your call. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Let me keep rolling here. I believe the only call
Speaker 2: left that is calling on Karen Reid. And you can
Speaker 2: correct me on that, Dan if you want, Dan Cantano Cantano, uh, Dan,
Speaker 2: and Havel joins us.
Speaker 5: Dan.
Speaker 2: I believe you're looking to talk about Karen Reid.
Speaker 6: All right, you.
Speaker 2: Say that again.
Speaker 6: Please, So I just set a three minute run and
Speaker 6: I'm just want of the Google kind of an ab
Speaker 6: CD without, you know, without you.
Speaker 2: Don't need three minutes, want you. I'll tell you when
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like a lot three minutes to
Speaker 2: people to speak. Let let's have a conversation. Go ahead,
Speaker 2: Let's see how it goes.
Speaker 6: Then here it is if read by the way, you.
Speaker 2: Want speaker Are you want speakerphone?
Speaker 6: Dan? Oh yeah, let me turn it off.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know the thing is that when you're
Speaker 2: on speakerphone, as we've said many times, it makes it
Speaker 2: more difficult for people to hear you, whether you get
Speaker 2: a minute, two minutes, three minutes, or five minutes. I
Speaker 2: want you to be able to express yourself and be hered.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, okay, Dan. I think if if Reid's lawyers
Speaker 6: had her best interest at hot, they would have had
Speaker 6: her please sufficient facts. You know, it's different than not
Speaker 6: guilty to involuntary manslaughter rall. I would be I was
Speaker 6: drunk and jealous, got out of the car backed up,
Speaker 6: intending to scare him. I thought he'd jump out of
Speaker 6: the way, but he, being drunk, he did not. Uh
Speaker 6: oh second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's that's pure speculation, Dan, And I don't
Speaker 2: know what value speculation is.
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, the thin envelopments side. It would have
Speaker 6: been over three years ago. She would have saved millions
Speaker 6: and bottles sure to receive recipathy from people from making
Speaker 6: a drunken mistake. She would have saved her job, millions
Speaker 6: and legal.
Speaker 2: I don't know you. I don't know you can kind
Speaker 2: of plead deal on a on a on a capital case.
Speaker 2: I really don't. I think it'll be. It's one thing
Speaker 2: if it's drunk driving and she ran her car into
Speaker 2: a tree and she's never been drinking before. But when
Speaker 2: when somebody loses their life, I don't think any prosecutor
Speaker 2: is going to say, yeah, we'll we'll we'll pull you,
Speaker 2: admit to sufficiency and we'll give you one year of probation.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 6: Don even on the second time around, when they really
Speaker 6: don't want to lost, you don't think they will listen
Speaker 6: to the charge and made a deal.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think they know. They haven't lessen that
Speaker 2: the three charges remained, the tragedies being tried on today
Speaker 2: are the same charges she was facing a year ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, well okay, I think it has happened. Then
Speaker 6: live with her, so enter it God, Okay.
Speaker 2: Well again, those sort of moral decisions I leave to others.
Speaker 2: Thanks Dan, appreciate you, Carl, thank you very much. We're
Speaker 2: gonna move on to the whole question. I believe on
Speaker 2: Iran and we're looking at pictures I watch, I'm looking
Speaker 2: at uh Fox N CNN moving back and forth, and
Speaker 2: uh uh Iran has been hit tonight pretty hard. I
Speaker 2: will this story is a big story. Let's go right
Speaker 2: now too, John in Boston, John, you're next on the
Speaker 2: night's side. I believe you want to talk about the
Speaker 2: the Israeli attack on on Tehran.
Speaker 7: Actually, yeah, I was gonna mention just Karen read a
Speaker 7: couple of quick points if you wouldn't mind, go ahead,
Speaker 7: just real quick, a couple of there's like a seesaw
Speaker 7: idea and there could be a lot of stuff from
Speaker 7: one side of the sore or the other. But there's
Speaker 7: a couple of focal points I think on the carab
Speaker 7: Re trial, but one that the thing is the FBI
Speaker 7: turn over the records. Karen Ree was at John o'kei's
Speaker 7: house on the phone on the Wi Fi at twelve
Speaker 7: thirty six. Meanwhile, j McCabe said she saw Karen Ree's
Speaker 7: car outside of the house at twelve forty five. She
Speaker 7: can't be in both places. Number one again, you know.
Speaker 2: You're John, You're you're in the weeds there and I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to cut you off here, but you you
Speaker 2: obviously followed this case more closely than most of my audience,
Speaker 2: and you're just in the weeds.
Speaker 7: And and okay, it's not helping me, and it's.
Speaker 2: Not helping my audience.
Speaker 7: But go ahead, okay, I'll make it. I'll make it simple.
Speaker 7: That just they talked about the tail light officer Barrels
Speaker 7: in Dyton when they came to the state Police can't
Speaker 7: pick up a. Karen Rea's car at her parents house.
Speaker 7: The officer testified he saw the car, he saw the
Speaker 7: tail light and had a slight crack and a small
Speaker 7: piece missing. And then the state police seized the car.
Speaker 7: And prior to that, it's the crime scene had been
Speaker 7: searched already with for tailllights. There was nothing the light
Speaker 7: is also Officer of Police Officer canton On.
Speaker 2: Jud John, here's the deal. I really am not interested
Speaker 2: in litigating the case. Clearly, if you were on the jury,
Speaker 2: you would lead the jury to not guilty. In about maybe.
Speaker 7: Twenty minutes, somebody smashed the teill light and police officers
Speaker 7: testified that it wasn't smashed that way. That's under Oh
Speaker 7: two police officers testified. There's a problem there, there's a
Speaker 7: huge problem.
Speaker 2: You've convinced me, John, you know what you you you
Speaker 2: should you should go to law school because I think
Speaker 2: that your persuasive abilities are extraordinary.
Speaker 7: Very key. There's a certain things that are key.
Speaker 2: Dan, I cannot imagine. John. Here's what I don't understand, John.
Speaker 2: There were professional reporters from the Globe and the Herald,
Speaker 2: Associated Press UH television stations, and none of those people
Speaker 2: who were there in the courtroom had been able to
Speaker 2: to break it down as simply and as clearly and
Speaker 2: as persuasively as you.
Speaker 7: Dan. There are a million pots. I'm just trying to say, Dan,
Speaker 7: you can look at the police I'll say, don't take
Speaker 7: my word, look at the police officer's testimony, and look
Speaker 7: at the video the video.
Speaker 2: Okayduring the next break, I'm gonna look at the video
Speaker 2: and the police officer. John, you have a point of
Speaker 2: view here, which is fine. Okay, you think she's been framed.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you got it out there. But most
Speaker 2: of the stuff you're telling me, we've heard people talk
Speaker 2: about it, and it's now gonna be up to the jury.
Speaker 2: If they come back with a conviction, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: extraordinarily disappointed. You're gonna think the case is a bad job.
Speaker 2: If they come back with an acquittal, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: able to call me up and say, Dan, I told you,
Speaker 2: and I was right from the get go. So you know,
Speaker 2: I know you're passionate about this.
Speaker 7: Dan. I'm saying, look at the photos and tell me
Speaker 7: what you see. You see you get a police office,
Speaker 7: one of these police officers lying, that's all. I'm saying,
Speaker 7: look at the photo, how the lake is smashed?
Speaker 2: Enough to know here's the thing. I'm not the brightest
Speaker 2: bulb on the tree, John, but I'm swat enough to
Speaker 2: know I was not in the courtroom. I have not
Speaker 2: reviewed the transcript. I deal with a variety of topics
Speaker 2: here on Night Side. Okay, I have a wide knowledge.
Speaker 2: I have a knowledge about a lot of things, but
Speaker 2: I'm not here to debate her guilt or innocence. I
Speaker 2: gave you an opportunity, just like I gave everybody else
Speaker 2: an opportunity to express their opinion. You clearly are convinced
Speaker 2: that she's being framed, and you know that's fine. We
Speaker 2: got it. You gave us some specific examples. You brought specifics.
Speaker 2: I don't have enough knowledge of the case whether to say, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're on You're absolutely right, she's been framed. My god,
Speaker 2: I now understand that I'm just telling you what I believe. John,
Speaker 2: that's all, you know. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying you're I'm saying you're passionate.
Speaker 7: I'm just yeah, I'm just rushing to get to the
Speaker 7: point of the key. If you just look at the
Speaker 7: placid tail like, that's all I just try to. I mean,
Speaker 7: there's a million things you could talk about the case,
Speaker 7: but not everything is important is certain key parts like
Speaker 7: a focal, like a focal going.
Speaker 2: So you, John, you have made the point, whether you
Speaker 2: realize it or around. You made it very effectively. Okay,
Speaker 2: very effectively, but I got it. I'm going to move
Speaker 2: on to We did an hour and a half on this,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to move on to the to in
Speaker 2: in the what I think is the more important story tonight.
Speaker 2: It rans to iron. So but I thank you you
Speaker 2: were a final caller on on this. Thanks John, talk
Speaker 2: to you later. All right. From now on for the
Speaker 2: battance of the night, we're going to talk about what
Speaker 2: is going on in the Middle East tonight, which is dangerous,
Speaker 2: but it also might turn. It might turn the world
Speaker 2: in a good direction. If if if torn Be it
Speaker 2: fails to get a nuclear bomb, We'll take a quick
Speaker 2: break and we will be back after this CBS News
Speaker 2: special report.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're switching topics. We're talking about what is going
Speaker 2: on in the Middle East tonight. If you're not watching,
Speaker 2: and I hope you're maybe watching but also listening to Nightside,
Speaker 2: Israel has launched a huge assault and Iran. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at both CNN and Fox and trying to just I'm
Speaker 2: not listening to the words. I'm seeing the pictures. This
Speaker 2: attack occurred beginning around eight thirty our time, which is
Speaker 2: quite early in the morning both Israeli and Iranian time,
Speaker 2: and apparently and Israel has been successful. This was an
Speaker 2: attack that maybe yesterday when President Trump closed several of
Speaker 2: our embassies and told staff in the Middle East, told
Speaker 2: staff to evacuate. Basically, this is on the patients of
Speaker 2: Israel with Iran, and the MULAS has run out. According
Speaker 2: to an Associated Press story here of people in Tehran
Speaker 2: who woke to the sound of the blast, State television
Speaker 2: acknowledged the blast that wasn't immediately clear would have been hit,
Speaker 2: though smoke could be rising from chit Gar, a neighborhood
Speaker 2: in western Tehran. There were no known nuclear sites in
Speaker 2: that area, but it wasn't immediately clear if anything was
Speaker 2: happening in the rest of the country, and Israeli military
Speaker 2: officials says this country targeted Iranian nuclear sites without identify them.
Speaker 2: The problem for Israel is that a lot of the
Speaker 2: Iranian nuclear sites are inside of mountains and without bunker
Speaker 2: buster bombs, which are difficult to deliver. Many felt those
Speaker 2: sites were impervious to attack, but knowing how how sophisticated
Speaker 2: the Israeli military is and the mosade I, wouldn't be
Speaker 2: a bit surprised if they're as if they're on Israeli
Speaker 2: commandos involved in this. I'm merely speculating. If any of
Speaker 2: you are watching have some insight on this, I think
Speaker 2: it is about time. I think that Iran for forty
Speaker 2: six years has held that region of the world hostage
Speaker 2: as a potential threat. And finally Benjamin Netanyahu, after having
Speaker 2: struck hes Bolah and Hamas and Amas, he's now going
Speaker 2: after Iran, which of course is the founder of Hezbollah
Speaker 2: and Hamas six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty six,
Speaker 2: one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. US Secretor of
Speaker 2: Saint Marco Rubio is emphasizing this is being done by
Speaker 2: Israeli forces. It's going to be interesting if Tehran has
Speaker 2: a response what that response might be. I'm sure US
Speaker 2: forces in the area are on high alert, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure that they already locked and loaded if necessary. Let
Speaker 2: me go to Rob in Midford. Rob, I think we're
Speaker 2: going to change topics here. I hope you want to
Speaker 2: talk about what's going on and around.
Speaker 8: Yes, Dan, I hope you can tell me why I'm wrong.
Speaker 8: Since I was in junior in high school nineteen seventy five,
Speaker 8: physics teacher taught us how to build a nuclear bomb.
Speaker 8: They're very simple, there's only a few pots. The only
Speaker 8: thing that prevented it from ever happening was the proper fuel,
Speaker 8: the enriched uranium that's needed. So now what has concerned
Speaker 8: me now is a couple of things. Is I recall
Speaker 8: it a couple of months ago, or maybe longer, there
Speaker 8: was some drone searching New Jersey. We never found out.
Speaker 8: We heard they were looking for weapons grade uranium or plutonium,
Speaker 8: whatever it is.
Speaker 2: But I think that that I think that mystery was solved,
Speaker 2: and I believe that they were US drones. But I
Speaker 2: don't think that that story hung together. I think that
Speaker 2: they were probably doing some testing. I think that story
Speaker 2: has disappeared. And if there was, uh, if they were
Speaker 2: in fact looking for weapon grade plutonium, we would know about.
Speaker 4: It, Okay the end.
Speaker 8: Then then tell me all these these gardaways. Suppose they
Speaker 8: were all carrying some Suppose there was enough of these
Speaker 8: gardaways that each schnuck into the country would say like
Speaker 8: one part of the atomic bomb and and and only
Speaker 8: like a quarter of the amounts of enrich thuughtonium they needed.
Speaker 8: But with the amount of guard aways, how do we know, Dan,
Speaker 8: there isn't already a bomb in this country somewhere assembled
Speaker 8: with all these people that are in if if you
Speaker 8: figure how many bombs they could be with this few
Speaker 8: pots and all the matters is to have the enriched
Speaker 8: weapons of great substance, and and uh, we could already
Speaker 8: have a bomb in this country now and and and
Speaker 8: I'm I'm afraid that nobody's looking for it and it's
Speaker 8: already here because we let it be snuck in and
Speaker 8: we don't even know.
Speaker 2: Well, there there are other weapons that that that I
Speaker 2: would be more concerned about, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: I would be concerned about chemical and biological weapons that
Speaker 2: that are much easier to to move around. But someone
Speaker 2: had to do something to Iran. Iran was on the
Speaker 2: course to getting a nuclear weapon. Once they got that
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon and more importantly a delivery system, they would
Speaker 2: have fired that weapon at Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, any any
Speaker 2: major community in Israel. Okay, what Israel.
Speaker 8: Is They have the right to kill everybody. They would
Speaker 8: they the Iranians they feel, you know, they would strap
Speaker 8: a bomb to their baby and send it over to.
Speaker 2: You, exactly exactly. So the point is the point that
Speaker 2: we got to deal with tonight, you and I going
Speaker 2: to deal with right now. Is Israel is doing this
Speaker 2: in anticipatory self defense. They know that the intentions of
Speaker 2: Iran and the leadership, the theocratic leadership of Iran is
Speaker 2: to destroy the state of Israel. And they know that
Speaker 2: once and us too. But Israel is a lot closer
Speaker 2: to them, and their focus is Israel. So Israel is
Speaker 2: doing tonight what they feel is necessary to defend their people.
Speaker 2: We have no right, can we can strategize with Israel?
Speaker 2: But Israel has to do what is in Israel's best interest,
Speaker 2: and I think, okay, So now.
Speaker 8: Do you think, though, that there's going to be some
Speaker 8: retaliation because these people are just out of their mind
Speaker 8: anyway and just hate us anyway. And now do you
Speaker 8: think this is going to trigger some sort of frankly.
Speaker 2: I think that. I think by taking this preemptive action,
Speaker 2: it's going to put Iran back on its heels. It
Speaker 2: may even lead to a counter revolution in Iran. I mean,
Speaker 2: the people of Iran. They must not like living under
Speaker 2: the under the leadership of Iran, Okay, And so let's
Speaker 2: see what happens. I think Israel did tonight what they
Speaker 2: felt they had to do. I think Iran was getting
Speaker 2: perilously close towards the weapon, and maybe they already have
Speaker 2: the delivery system.
Speaker 8: I don't know anybody that thinks they have the right
Speaker 8: to kill you. They should be sent back to the
Speaker 8: Stone Age themselves.
Speaker 2: Well, some of them went back to the Stone Age tonight.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 7: Rob. Appreciate your calls coming down for breakfast.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much, Rob, have a great night.
Speaker 2: Uh six one seven, two five four ten thirty six
Speaker 2: one seven nine three one ten thirty Israel will be
Speaker 2: criticized for this, make no mistake about it. But I
Speaker 2: think Israel is doing what it feels it needs to
Speaker 2: do to defend itself. They are a lot closer to Iran.
Speaker 2: The leadership in Iran, this theocratic, religious based leadership, has
Speaker 2: said all along that they want to destroy the big
Speaker 2: Satan and the little Satan Israel. And tonight Israel Israel
Speaker 2: has struck Iran, and knowing how Israel operates, I suspect
Speaker 2: that it's a very effective strike. We probably won't know
Speaker 2: until sometime tomorrow morning. But feel free to join the conversation.
Speaker 2: I got some wide open lines here. I realize that
Speaker 2: I have changed topics, but I think this is too
Speaker 2: big a story to ignore, and I can talk about
Speaker 2: it all night, but I'd love to hear what you think.
Speaker 2: If you support Israel and what they're doing tonight, feel free.
Speaker 2: If you think Israel has taken a gamble and taken
Speaker 2: a risk here that might lead to a wider war,
Speaker 2: and you want to make that argument, feel free six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty Those lines of wide open I have won
Speaker 2: at six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Back
Speaker 2: on night Side right after this.
Speaker 1: Night Side fine with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: How are you following the attacks tonight by the State
Speaker 2: of Israel against Iran. Israel has held off as long
Speaker 2: as they could, but they got to a point where
Speaker 2: they felt had had to be done, and apparently dozens
Speaker 2: of aircraft were involved in the operation. We don't have
Speaker 2: specifics yet, but knowing how Israel has operated for seventy
Speaker 2: six years of its existence, since May of nineteen forty eight,
Speaker 2: when Israel acts, it acts decisively. Jane is an ever Gene,
Speaker 2: you were next on Nightside. Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 4: How are you hi, Jan?
Speaker 9: Yes, good, thank you. I've been following this for a
Speaker 9: little while tonight, and I really assumed it was coming
Speaker 9: when I heard that Trump was moving some of our
Speaker 9: military around.
Speaker 2: He was moving embassy staff out of some embassies in
Speaker 2: the Middle East to safer Yeah. So, yep, that was
Speaker 2: a pretty good indication.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: That put my intenter up a little bit, and I
Speaker 9: was glad that that was happening. I have to be honest,
Speaker 9: I'm glad that Israel did this because they had no choice. Really,
Speaker 9: I mean, to let Irene go on like this. Irene
Speaker 9: is like a monster you know, out there, and if
Speaker 9: they didn't do this, it would have been the end
Speaker 9: of Israel certainly, and maybe the end of other countries too.
Speaker 2: So the president, President Trump's having a cabinet meeting tonight.
Speaker 2: He is also apparently a federal judge has ordered President
Speaker 2: Trump to return control of the California National Guard. That
Speaker 2: was a ruling out of by a federal district judge
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. That will probably be appealed and that
Speaker 2: might conceivably get to the US Supreme Court. But that's
Speaker 2: another story that's going on tonight.
Speaker 9: So it's a busy yeah, that that is just a
Speaker 9: situation where incompetence in California government, I'm sorry and other
Speaker 9: places that are letting this happen because they are they
Speaker 9: are you know, there's criminal acts being that are happening
Speaker 9: with the protests. They're not peaceful protests and you can't
Speaker 9: allow that.
Speaker 2: Let me focused. I brought that up only because I
Speaker 2: just noticed that on CNN.
Speaker 9: Oh no, it's okay, but I just it shouldn't be happening.
Speaker 9: It has to be stopped, and I'm sorry, too bad.
Speaker 9: Arrest them all. That's it. But I'm glad Israel is
Speaker 9: doing this, they had no choice.
Speaker 2: Good, well, let us hope that. Let's hope they're successful,
Speaker 2: because Iran has been nothing since Omani returned to power
Speaker 2: from from Paris, France.
Speaker 9: And uh, they are an evil empire. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they're at least part of the axis of
Speaker 2: the evil empire. They yeah. Uh. We gave him plenty
Speaker 2: of opportunity to settle down.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: And they they missed the signal. They missed the signal.
Speaker 9: We'll see, Yeah, traveling their own road, and I think
Speaker 9: it's going to lead them to a bad place. So
Speaker 9: I think as.
Speaker 2: Well as going to a rocky road for Iran tonight,
Speaker 2: through a lot of rocky roads in Iran tonight. If
Speaker 2: you get my drift, thanks.
Speaker 5: To appreciate great well, they asked, thank you got it?
Speaker 2: Let me go next to Laurie in Idaho. Hi, Laurie,
Speaker 2: thanks for calling in. You're you've been following this a
Speaker 2: little bit tonight.
Speaker 3: I have I gues. Someone called me and gave me
Speaker 3: a heads up. I think it's gonna be able to
Speaker 3: start a little bit. They hadn't done the big attack yet,
Speaker 3: which I thought was interesting, and so I just wanted
Speaker 3: to thank you so much for for switching to the story,
Speaker 3: because this is really important to follow. I think and
Speaker 3: remember I said a week or two ago, how Trump
Speaker 3: throws out red herrings and something bigger is going on.
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, I do remember your comment. And I assumed
Speaker 2: he was talking about a tariff deal with China.
Speaker 8: But.
Speaker 3: Well he might have been, you know, he might have
Speaker 3: been this. This thing obviously didn't happen overnight, so this
Speaker 3: might have been talks and strategic. Obviously, you know we're not,
Speaker 3: you know, involved militarily and all that, and I'm glad
Speaker 3: we shouldn't be, but those talks had been going on,
Speaker 3: and he is just an expert. It's throwing out little
Speaker 3: red fish to get the media all upset and following
Speaker 3: that and ignoring something bigger that might be going on.
Speaker 3: But I am just I mean, what can you do?
Speaker 3: I mean good, good for Israel, and I think with
Speaker 3: at least I think with Trump, and there are some
Speaker 3: other European leaders that are are tired of the bullying.
Speaker 3: I mean, Trump is going to put down a bully.
Speaker 3: He's not going to stand for it. Obviously ran as
Speaker 3: a bully. Israel has had enough of it, and yeah,
Speaker 3: well it's there. He did but hopefully it works out.
Speaker 2: I also think that indirectly this helps indirectly Ukraine because
Speaker 2: has been supplying Russia with drones that have been that
Speaker 2: Russia is using to attack Ukraine.
Speaker 3: I thought, I.
Speaker 2: Think this is going to there are implications here. H
Speaker 2: and if if this rate, yeah, I know, but if
Speaker 2: if this rate is successful, and it's always difficult in
Speaker 2: the first few hours, Uh, they will get some pictures
Speaker 2: of their targets over there because it's getting very close. Well,
Speaker 2: it's it's really dawn over there at this point. It's
Speaker 2: sun online has has come up on that part of
Speaker 2: the world. They'll have some satellite photos, will have some
Speaker 2: satellite photos. I believe that President Trump has the National
Speaker 2: Security Council meeting now scheduled for eleven in the morning.
Speaker 2: He has some sort of a cabinet meeting being going
Speaker 2: on right now, so he's he's on top of this.
Speaker 2: And and I'm sure that net Yaho and he having
Speaker 2: a much better relationship than Netanya who had with former
Speaker 2: President Biden.
Speaker 3: Uh, he's he well, anything better than none. But moving on, Well, yes,
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: He had he had the green light, which you know,
Speaker 2: we have plausible deniability, so no one's going to be
Speaker 2: able to accuse us of participating. But I got to
Speaker 2: believe there's some US military assets uh ready to go
Speaker 2: over there. I'm not even sure if tarn has the
Speaker 2: ability to counterattack, if for Israel used the time that
Speaker 2: they had between all of those assaults that we saw
Speaker 2: a few months ago in Israel, if they used all
Speaker 2: the time that they had, Remember, this is the this
Speaker 2: is the country that was able to do that.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: That those those portable radios uh and those walkie talkies uh,
Speaker 2: they killed most of the leadership of Hamas. They literally
Speaker 2: blew up in their pockets.
Speaker 3: Brilliant.
Speaker 2: It was brilliant. And I wouldn't be a bit surprised
Speaker 2: if we're going to find out that there was that
Speaker 2: there were Israeli special forces who went in and and
Speaker 2: and blew up some of this infrastructure in Iran. That's
Speaker 2: very that's very deep in uh in mountains.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good guidance and maybe a little manpower yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So well we will have to see. Laurie. Is
Speaker 2: always great to hear your voice. Thank you, and I'm
Speaker 2: glad if you tell me that I made the right
Speaker 2: decision here. Again, we could have talked our intention was
Speaker 2: to uh talk about uh, we'll talk tomorrow night about
Speaker 2: the riots all that. So sometimes we have to change.
Speaker 4: Far more important it is to me, and I.
Speaker 2: Hope my audience picks up on this after the eleven
Speaker 2: ou thanks, Laurie, we'll talk to Okay, thank.
Speaker 3: You, soodnight.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what we're going to do here is we're
Speaker 2: going to take a quick break. And I have wide
Speaker 2: open lines right now. And this is one of those
Speaker 2: stories where probably most of you don't have much to
Speaker 2: say because you're just catching up with the news story.
Speaker 2: So let me just bring you up to date. Iran
Speaker 2: tonight has launched a massive and I think that is
Speaker 2: an appropriate word, a massive attack against Israel has launched
Speaker 2: a massive attack against Iran. I think that Israel finally
Speaker 2: said enough is enough, and hey, they have tried to
Speaker 2: now wipe out, if not the Iranian regime, certainly wipe
Speaker 2: out their capacity to produce and deliver nuclear weapons. We
Speaker 2: will get to all of this during the next hour.
Speaker 2: I'm going to spend the next few minutes catching up
Speaker 2: on the latest. I hope you will as well. In
Speaker 2: the meantime, I hope you'll call us. The bottom line
Speaker 2: is I believe Israel did what was in Israel's interest
Speaker 2: tonight and hope, I hope that they have the success
Speaker 2: that they have planned, and maybe maybe this will weaken
Speaker 2: the leadership in Tehran, so there may be a counter
Speaker 2: revolution and there may be freedom for the Iranian people.
Speaker 2: Israel's fight is not with the Iranian people. It's with
Speaker 2: the military leadership of that country, and it's a theocratic leadership.
Speaker 2: You have the number six, one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 2: ten thirty, six one seven, nine three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Let's get these phone lines going, coming right back on
Speaker 2: nightside