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today's episode. Disclaimer. The views and opinions expressed in this

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podcast are those of the guests and do not necessarily

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reflect the views or positions of this show, its host,

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or any of the companies they represent. Now, today on

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the show, we welcome back one of my favorite guests

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of all time, Robert Edward Grant. Now, Robert has the

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distinct honor of being the first ever in studio conversation

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I have in our new Next Level Soul Studios. Now,

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Robert and I sat down across from each other and

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had a just mind blowing mystical conversation talking about his

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other findings in the Great Pyramid, his interactions with UFOs

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and aliens are current wars and why and what's happening

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with them, and so so so much more. I cannot

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wait for you guys to hear it. This one's an

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epic one, guys, So sit back, relax, and let's dive in.

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Welcome to the show, Robert Edward Grant.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Rob, Such a pleasure to be here

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in your studio? What an amazing studio. Basically, thank you

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put together here. I'm like really blown away. It's state

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of the art.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, I appreciate it. Man, I'm so excited

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to have you here. Man, we've been talking about this

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for a while, so this is gonna be a fairly

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epic conversation. I have a feeling. So last time you

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were on our last episode, did okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a million views? Probably all the platforms

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has got to be over a million.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at this point it's getting. It's getting.

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It's getting at least to a million in a month or.

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Speaker 2: Two just on YouTube. Don't you also post on all

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the other platforms?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, over everything? Over a million questions, So people

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are really interested what you discovered in the Great Pyramid

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and what you're doing there, what I wanted to talk

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about in this episode, among other things. I'm sure we're

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going to go off on many rabbit holes on this

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conversation with the pyramid itself. There's so much mystery around

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in the pyramids and what you discovered. Can you give

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a short description of what you discovered inside the King's Chamber?

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Speaker 2: So what we discovered? The first discovery that I made

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inside the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid was the

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Alpha Mega on the rim of the sarcophagus. And then

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after that, my wife Susie actually found in twenty twenty

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a bull on the wall, and then my assistant Eden Visa,

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she basically found a bird up on the wall as well.

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That then I then saw another bird next to it,

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so we started seeing all of us started seeing different

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patterns on the walls, and so it was really a

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collaborative effort. I was the first to see Alpha Omega.

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But now we found that there are many, many etchings

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on the walls, and they're all petroglyphs, and they're not

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done in the style of like what you would consider

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for ancient Egypt, and so and they'll overlap each other too.

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It's really kind of amazing. Some of the etchings are

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done in a three D perspective, so it's a unique

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type of drawing that we only learned how to do

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in around the fifteenth century, and so they're very advanced

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from that perspective. But even then we didn't use it

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the way that it's used here. So how in the

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heck did these end up? It's almost as if it

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was done in the future. How did these petroglyphs end

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up on the walls, And then we didn't know what

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the patterns were of the petroglyphs. We knew the alpha omega,

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and we knew that the bull and the cow that

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we found on the wall were related to that, because

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the APIs bull is the alpha and the omega is

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the shape of the hathors. Right, I saw it, and

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so that's very well known. But what we didn't know

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was the whole room, because we knew that there are

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petroglyphs all over the walls, and we knew that those

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same matching petroglyphs showed up in the Last Supper painting

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by Leonardo da Vinci. We knew that he spent three years,

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three and a half years in Egypt because he wrote

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about it, and he was surveying the Great mount Taurus

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that everybody in history thinks was actually a mountain in Armenia. Well,

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he spelled Armenia incorrectly even for that time. He called

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it Erminia, and that was an encryption for an ermine,

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which is a weasel looking animal, and he made a

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painting called the Lady with the Ermine. The ermine is

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related to a magic order of hermetic wisdom that was

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called the Order of the Ermine. And this is the

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same little animal that they used to make the robes

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of kings and around the rim of a crown. You

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know the fur that you see with little black dots

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on it. It's the tip of the tail that makes

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the black dots. So what we found was actually da

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Vinci wasn't referring to Armenia. He was referring to the

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Egyptian mystery schools. He was referring to the Great mount

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Taurus is the great mountain of Ross Tao. Rossaw is

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the original name of the Giza plateau. It's Taurus backwards,

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and the original name of the Great Pyramid is Bull Mountain.

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So that's the hieroglyphics of it. In fact, you have

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two chevrons on top of each other represent mountain, and

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then you have an APIs bull right next to it.

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That's the ancient symbol in hieroglyphics for the Great Pyramid.

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Speaker 1: So I want to add so yeah, I'm sure the

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Great Pyramid was named by some English explorer. So hey,

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you know what, we're going to call this an a

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great pyramid.

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Speaker 2: They named it after Kufu. The story goes that there

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was a explorer from England who had gotten about a

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million pounds in investment to go and try to figure

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out the treasure and find the treasure in the Great Pyramid.

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Lots of people tried Napoleon before him as well, and

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basically he couldn't find anything. There was never anything found

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in the pyramid except for the sarcophagas one stone by

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it's not very interesting from a treasure perspective.

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Speaker 1: But that, by the way, that stone box is not

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an actual burial.

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Speaker 2: No, they never found any that. There's never been anyone

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found in that thing.

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just a box.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, No, it's just a stone box that nobody

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knows what the real purpose of it is or was,

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see on it. No one noticed the alpha omega on

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the rim until I noticed it in twenty eighteen, and

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now nobody really disputes that at all. It's there, Right,

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how did you get there? People don't know. That's the thing.

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I remembered being there when it was put there. That's

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how I found it, And all week long. I'd been

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writing and drawing Alpha Omega my notebook in twenty eighteen,

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and the night before I discovered an alpha omega under

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the dome of the rock under the Alaxa Mosque in Jerusalem,

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and I was there for a I was having a

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state dinner that night with a bunch of my YPO

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CEO friends and I was one of the hosts. So

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I said, oh, I was the chapter shair at the time,

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and I said, Oh, I'm going to go deep into

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the cave, I may find the bathroom. So I asked

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where the bathroom was, and there was a harpist there.

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long tables, with these big candelaars. It was yeah, they

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would put their kar keys in this bowl. No, I

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mean it was all guys, so that would have been

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a lot of sausage. But anyway, definitely a sausage party.

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literally probably the harpist. It was a giant harp in

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the center of the room too. So I kind of said, oh,

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where's the bathroom. I gotta go get ready for my

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speech because we had like dignitaries there and stuff too,

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fence and said, do not enter, and I went deep

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into the cave because I knew that's where the ark

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of the Covenant was supposed to have been hidden for

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a long time after the reign of Zedekiah. So this

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these names of the caves were originally Solomon's corey because

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it was what they built Solomon's temple from, and then

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it became Zedekiah's Cave as well. So when King Nebu

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Kindestra came and attacked Jerusalem in five eighty nine BC,

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and that caused the First Diaspora, right, the first diaspora, Basically,

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he destroyed the Temple of Solomon and they took the

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Archaic Covenant down to Zeddekaia's cave and it was hidden

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in there for a long time until apparently the Knights

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Templar took it out right and took it somewhere else. Now,

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so that means it would have been in there for

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at least a thousand years.

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Speaker 1: What is the night? What is the architect Covenant?

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Speaker 2: The Archaic Covenant is in the Bible, so it's described

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in so if you know the story, the Bible wasn't

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really written until you know Moses, right. So Moses comes

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along and he wrote the five books of Moses. And

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so those are the ones that you would know numbers, Deuteronomy, Leviticus, Genesis, right.

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and that we have about the people that had been

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taken into captivity river. They were taken into captivity because

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of Joseph Right was sold by his fai. So you

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had Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob Right. And Jacob's other name

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was Israel. So he had twelve sons, and one of

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those sons, the youngest son, was a fellow by the

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name of Joseph. Joseph was favored of his father the most,

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and he got the Code of Many Colors, which is

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probably just rainbow consciousness, right, And so his brothers despised

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him for it, and so they sold him off into slavery.

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brother off into slavery. So of course the father was upset,

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and for his whole life they didn't see him again.

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he had special abilities. And so he ended up like

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making his way. There's a story about him with Potiphar

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and Potiphar's wife, and then he becomes close with the pharaoh.

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He becomes like this advisor to the pharaoh Andy and

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the pharaoh has a dream and he's able to interpret dreams, right,

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and so one of the interpretations was, we're gonna have

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seven years of feast and seven years of famine.

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now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: And so he told the pharaoh, we have to make

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storage of all the grain, right, because Egypt was always

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a bread basket, even for that time, and so because

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of that, when the famine came, Egypt became very rich

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because it had food to basically make it through. And

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all the surrounding countries right were desolate, they had no food.

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original family came back and was begging for food effectively,

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and he found them a place there because he was

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very well esteemed by the pharaoh. So from that point

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in time, the family of you know that was the

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progeny of Abraham ended up in Egypt and were taken

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at least as far as the Bible story goes into

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captivity and over time they just became slaves, you know,

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and so they when a next pharaoh came that knew,

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not Joseph, that's when the people started to really suffer.

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two hundred BC, right, and then you've got you know,

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because I have I have not. I mean, I know

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who Abraham is obviously, and he's like the basis of

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the Abrahamic religions.

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Speaker 2: Oh essentially, yeah, I mean you've got three religions basically.

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Speaker 1: Off of him, essentially. So was he an avatar? Was

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he like a Jesus figure or a Buddha figure in

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any way, shape or form, because he I mean, obviously

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spawned off three of the major world religions, so he

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was pretty important.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he was very important, there's no doubt. I mean,

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he was supposed to have been from you know, the

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Mesopotamia area, my land of Earth. But he paid tithing,

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so his spiritual leader, he paid tithing to Melchisedic. So

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Melchisedic was the word Melchisedic means malik or king. So

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if you know someone like my partner's name is Vic Malik,

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my business partner, Malik means king, right, And that's an

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old word that's been used. You know, it's mainly referring

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to people that are you know, probably more of Muslimorian

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orientation and and ethnicity. But it comes from the word melik.

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Melik means king in Hebrew, so malki Sedek is like

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king or prince of peace. Prince of peace, prince of

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justice is another meaning for that, so Zedek so, and

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the place where they lived was in the land of Salem, right,

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was just called Salem, and the ruler of that land

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was Melchitzedek. So aber Ham was given though this you know,

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blessing that his remember his wife Sarah, And I'm going

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deep into my memory of like Bible studies and everything.

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But his wife, Sarah was ninety years old, couldn't have

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a child, and so he ended up having a child

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instead with the you know, one of the handmaids of Sarah.

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So they lived in the house and would be considered

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like a concubine. So they had a child, and that

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child was Ishmael. Yes, right, So we have a bad

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estate plan and by some miracle, Sarah gets pregnant at

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the ripe old age of ninety years old, right, and

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they lived longer then. That's the other thing. They lived

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longer from the pre fled times, everyone lived much much longer.

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Like Adam lived nine hundred and thirty years, Methuselah was

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said to have lived nine hundred and sixty nine years,

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right Enockul lived three hundred and sixty five years, Moses

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one hundred and twenty something years. So this this thing

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caused the schism that we have now in the Middle

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East because Ishmael was the older son and then so

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have gotten the birthright. But because his mother was not

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uh you know, was was was actually just this handmaid

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of of Sarah. The birthright didn't pass to that. And

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this is why in Judaism, unless your mother is Jewish,

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you're not automatically Jewish, correct, right, Yeah, that's the thing

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that that's why it has to pass through the mother.

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And I always ask people when I go to Israel

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there it's the only way to be sure. God chose us.

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Speaker 1: We didn't choose in So okay, So going back, So

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going back to the Ark of the Covenant, what actually

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is in the covet? What's in it? So we saw

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Indiana Jones, So yeah, that's right, So what is it exactly?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So the arc of the Covenant, I think there's

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the Bible story, which I don't totally buy into.

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Speaker 1: Shocking, go ahead, okay, tell you.

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Speaker 2: Why, and I tell you this is You're you're going

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down a path I've never gone down on podcasts generally.

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Speaker 1: Why. That's why we have a comment, That's why.

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Speaker 2: We have our conversations. Okay. So the Ark of the

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Covenant was this box that had certain dimensions. It was

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made of acacia wood. Akasha wood is the tree that

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is pretty prominent down there. I was just in Aswan

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with matsd. Stefano and we were looking, you know, at

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these islands that were on there, and all the trees

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that were acasha wood. The acacia wood tree has DMT.

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So we start talking about the burning bush. Burning bush

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was a kasha Okay, So were there psychedelics involved for

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Moses that he had this you know, godlike experience.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: The burning bush was DMT okay, and it's a well

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known DMT. In fact, I have this new geometry set

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coming out that's made of acacia wood boxes. Please don't

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burn the boxes. They're really hard to make, okay. But

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I wanted to be something really special like that. So,

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but akasha wood has this unique property. It's like kind

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of like an ayahuasca and there are ceremonies that you

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can have with akasha. It's a full on ayahuasca type ceremony. Yeah,

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and I know lots of people would have done it.

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It's made out of this wood yep.

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Speaker 1: And then what's inside of it.

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Speaker 2: So what's inside of it is subject to a lot

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of speculation. Yes, right, it's supposed to house the power

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of God.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now this box. Yeah, let's go back to the

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story of Moses for a moment, and then we'll edge

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into this part of the story. So the box has

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these perfect dimensions, the perfect dimensions with the poles that

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fit it. So they had to carry it a certain way,

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and only priests that were of what they call the

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you know, the Cohen family, right, which these would be

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the sons of Levi, Right, So the sons of Aaron

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and Levi. This whole story where you've got Aaron who

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was the mouthpiece for Moses because he was a better order,

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he was a better public speaker. And so Aaron's line

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was blessed, right, and this was the Levitical tribe was

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blessed to be the the not only the rabbis, but

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the high priests that would actually be allowed to work

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in the temple, right, and the ark and the ark

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of the Covenant was and until they built the temple,

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which didn't happen until around one thousand BC, which would

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have been with Solomon, right though, So you know you've

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got Solomon, and you've got Saul David then Solomon, right,

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and until the temple was built, they had this tabernacle, right.

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So when Moses escaped from Egypt and they followed him

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to the Red Sea, and then you know, the pharaoh

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Ramses was like his army was sort of destroyed because

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they got stuck in the Red Sea, just like in

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the season bild Mill movie. Right, what happened was no

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one really knew why all of a sudden, because Ramses

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had said, you can go, get out of here. We're

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tired of you. Remember they already sent the pestilence and

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the plagues, and they already sent the locusts and the frogs,

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and they already and the firstborn son, right, and the

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loss of the firstborn son of Ramses as well, so

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he's like, just go, just go. Well, something happened that

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made those you know, dynastic Egyptians run after Moses say no,

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come back, We're not letting you go. Was it? Well? Interestingly,

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the Arc of the Covenant proportions and dimensions perfectly fit

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inside the sarcophagus of the Great Pyramid. Hmmm, it's a

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perfect match. Okay, So there are many that pause it,

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and I'm including, you know, I'm in that list that

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the Arc of the Covenant was actually in the sarcophagus

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and it was the conductor for the Great Pyramid made

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of gold. So the box, even though in the book

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right it tells the story in the Bible about how

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they have to they're told how to make the Arc

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of the Covenant, and there is more than one arc,

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by the way, more than one arc. They were probably

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in several different pyramids around the world. The Arc of

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the Covenant was supposed to be made of these proportions.

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There is two and a half cubits by one and

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a half cubits, and it had these polls that had

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to go on it. You couldn't touch the arc, and

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the outer surface of it was gold. Well, gold is

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one of the best conductorss right, and it had the

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unique attribute as well that at the top of it

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there were two angels. And these these cherubim angels had

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wings that basically stretched out to each other, just like

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in the movie. And there are four faces. If you

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could reach in there and look at it, there are

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four faces on each of the angel's faces. And the

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four faces were the face of a man, the face

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of a bull, the face of an eagle, in the

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face of a lion. Now, if you know your zodiac,

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you would know the face of a man is Aquarius.

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You would know that the face of the bull is Taurus.

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Face of a lion, of course, is Leo. You might

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not know that the face of eagle is scorpio. These

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are what we call the fixed signs right in the zodiac.

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They're the ones that sort of mark the positions of

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the zodiac the most right, they're the center of them.

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They're the center thesis also of each of their element relationships.

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So basically the Great Pyramid is also built with that orientation.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: The Great Pyramid. If you haven't seen this film, there's

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a great film called The Revelations of the Pyramid. It's

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a French film that's translated into English. You can find

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it on Gaya now. I think they take it off

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of YouTube now. It's probably the best show that there

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is that explains a thesis of what the pyramid actually was.

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And they present it the entire Geza plateau as a

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giant clock that's based on the zodiac, and they show

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the orientation of each of the sides where they have

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the orientation of the entrance of the Great Pyramid. Because

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it's Bull Mountain, is the Bull the north side and

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that's where you enter the pyramid from, so the north

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side's the Bull. The south side would be the eagle,

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but actually it starts off with a scorpion. Then the

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scorpion transforms and gets redeemed into a snake, and then

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the snake transforms and redeems into an eagle, and then

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that direct redemption process continues to turn the eagle into

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a phoenix, and then the phoenix becomes vally. The phoenix

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becomes the Ophiucus, which is the thirteen zodiac sign, and

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it's the serpent bearer, so it becomes the story of Asclepias. Right.

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Sclepias is the one who saved the life of Oriyan

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when he was stung by a scorpion, which was really

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just scorpion venom is the most expensive drug in the

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world right now, thirty nine million dollars per gallon. And

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it's an ego death. It's like eboga or like bufo

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or any of these things that people are all doing

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right now to experience ego death. This is just a

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more intense way of experiencing ego death. And that's what

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I believe is the actual metaphor story of the story

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of orion O, Ryan and Ophucus are just opposite each

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other in the night sky, right, They're exactly opposite each other.

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So the orientation of the Great Pyramid being according to

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the zodiac is matching the description in the Bible in

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the Book of Ezekiel of the Ark of the Covenant.

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Also having all four of those faces on it because

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they represent the four sides of the walls in the

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Great Pyramids King's chamber. That also you asked, what we

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discovered in there shows the zodiac of all of those,

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but not just the twelve zodiac scigns. It shows the

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in total forty eight zodiac science. Because the Egyptian year

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was split into thirty six segments, so ten days for

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each segment. You know, they would look at okay, yes,

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you're in Taurus, but there's a subset of Taurists, and

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the subset of Taurists is Orion, Ariga and Eridonus, right,

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and so these different aspects give you more specificity. So

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if you look at the degree of where you're born

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right on your birth chart or your natal chart, you

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could actually find out that there's way more complexity. It's

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like the next dimension of the zodiac. And this was

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the Atlantean calendar also, so you could find out like

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I was born in the week of Orion. May sixteenth

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is the week of Orion in the Vedic calendar, right,

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so that means I would take on certain Oriyan characteristics, right,

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and and that's always had some resonance for me. So

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it was, you know, I never knew that that was

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a thing, right until I started studying all this stuff. Well,

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this Deacon of Astrology has been around a long time,

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and all the walls are etched with all thirty six

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of the symbols of each of those constellations, and so

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on the west wall that's behind the sarcophagus, there's a

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big lion's face. You've seen it. I saw it, right,

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you've seen it, and you actually saw it on Apple

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Vision Pro on my new you know, sort of virtual

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reality game thing that I created. What'd you think of that?

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's pretty bad ass. I had to say.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was. I was like, wow,

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this is kind of ridiculous. It was pretty amazing. I

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was there. It was pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's like you're there and you come out

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of it, You're like, whoa, we live in a simulation.

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As soon as you take that off, you're like, we

468
00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:49,440
live in a simulation.

469
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: There's no question.

470
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,599
Speaker 2: S think about where this technology go in five or

471
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,160
ten years.

472
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: It's like one hundred, just one hundred years from now.

473
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,359
Where do you think that's going to go?

474
00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 2: I mean, smell everything, it's all going to be there.

475
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna We're gonna go. We're going to the Holidack.

476
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: You know. Google just came out of this whole new

477
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,920
thing called Google. Nos. Have you seen this? Oh no, yeah,

478
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,599
it can smell. It's like Shazam for like smelling.

479
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,319
Speaker 1: Of course, can you believe that? Of course? No, No,

480
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,440
I have no doubt, no doubt.

481
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,279
Speaker 2: There's a possibility it was an April fool's joke when

482
00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:19,440
I saw it, but I looked it up all over

483
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,279
the place, so they really took the April fool's joke

484
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,000
really far. And then I ran out of time to

485
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:25,519
find out if it was legit or not. But here's

486
00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:29,759
the thing. The room is basically giving us a map

487
00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:34,079
of time, and it's oriented backwards, so it's not just

488
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,559
giving us the map the way that it should go

489
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,240
clockwise and counterclockwise. It shows us the two directional nature

490
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:44,920
of time. See, we go forward in procession of equinox.

491
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:47,640
So if we just think of the twelve zodiac signs.

492
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,319
We go from Capricorn into Aquarius, then Aquarius into Pisces,

493
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:55,480
then Pisces and Aries and areas and a Taurus and

494
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,119
Touris into Gemini, and Gemini into Cancer and Cancer into Leo, right,

495
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,440
and then you go into Virgo and Libra, right, and

496
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,400
you're going through this whole cycle. But by the same

497
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:10,680
time that we're doing that, we're also going backwards. If

498
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,799
you look at the sky, don't look at your clock,

499
00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:17,319
look at the sky instead, because what happens is as

500
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,880
we move from Aquarius into Pisces on a month to

501
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,440
month basis, we're slowly but by the same degree of proportion,

502
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,200
moving backwards. And this is why we just went on

503
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,880
an aon basis, which is two thousand years. Sure you

504
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,039
Teeshwa twenty four thousand year cycle, right, So each of

505
00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:43,599
the AONs is two thousand years, right, And within that

506
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,720
there's fractals that then have these trends like sometimes people

507
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:49,799
like gold and sometimes they like silver, and sometimes they

508
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,559
like you know, metals and stuff like that. It's matching

509
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:55,559
all the collective consciousness as well. It's all part of

510
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,480
the simulation game that we live in.

511
00:26:57,759 --> 00:26:59,519
Speaker 1: Is that why gold is a little bit higher price

512
00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:00,960
now than it ever before.

513
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: Because it's more popular again because you know why, because

514
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:06,799
we're an aquarius now, and what is our opposite sign

515
00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:11,759
from aquarius Leo? And what does Leo represent? Gold?

516
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: Does he?

517
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,599
Speaker 2: Yeah? The sun?

518
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,279
Speaker 1: So where's gold going ten thousand?

519
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,559
Speaker 2: Gold's gonna go up. It's gonna go way up, right

520
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:21,359
because the dollar is good, I believe dollars is gonna

521
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:21,839
go way down.

522
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: Well yeah, that's I mean, anyone can see that coming.

523
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean this is why bigcoin speculation has

524
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:30,519
been so big this year. And I mean we could

525
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:32,960
spend a whole different podcast just on that. But but

526
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,319
the point is that we go backwards in time by

527
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,720
the same degree, like a mobia strip or a cliinb bottle.

528
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,759
You know what a climb bottle is. I don't climb

529
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:44,440
bottle would be like a bottle like this, right, but

530
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,240
it has a spout that comes out of it and

531
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:50,200
that it wraps around itself and then comes back into itself. Okay, right.

532
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,559
Ambia strip would be if I had like a piece

533
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:55,599
of paper, a strip of paper, and I was gonna

534
00:27:55,599 --> 00:27:57,559
make a little bracelet like we did in elementary school.

535
00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:01,759
If I twist it five hundred and forty degrees right,

536
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,319
and I put her on my wrist with that twist

537
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:07,880
in it, it look kind of like DNA DNA's Ambia strip.

538
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:13,240
DNA's a Mobia strip. So you twist this strip, and

539
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:16,839
then if I have a little matel car, right, the

540
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,839
little ones that the kids play with, and I twisted

541
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,759
a thing like that and I could defy gravity, I

542
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:26,839
could let the car go, it would end up going

543
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,960
on both sides of the paper, Okay, because of the twist.

544
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:33,079
This is the nature of the Mobia strip. So what

545
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,200
this basically shows is that time can loop back on itself.

546
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna stop you there for a second because

547
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,119
this is something I've wanted to talk to you about.

548
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:45,680
I was talking to some channels the other day, some

549
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,839
scientists the other day, and this concept of there is

550
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:52,880
no past life, there's no future life, that all lives

551
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,480
are happening at the same time. That concept, which just

552
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:57,920
been explained to me, and I've spoken about it on

553
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,920
the show how you can kind of wrap your he

554
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:04,640
around that, But there was a scientist or researcher who

555
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,519
told me that, Well, imagine that we're looking at it

556
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,039
linear time is actually stacked on top of each other,

557
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:16,279
so it's all happening at the same time, and quantum

558
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:21,880
jumping is being able to jump between with ease because

559
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,759
we're not going back or forward. It's all at the

560
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:28,839
same level, but just at different times. And then we

561
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,799
get into the spiritual aspect of it, is that well,

562
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:33,319
that's the over soul living all of its lives at

563
00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:37,319
the same time. And when you were talking about what

564
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,200
we were talking about earlier, of it looks like someone

565
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,519
in the Great Pyramid, someone came in and did it afterwards,

566
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:49,160
or we were talking about our future selves, our path,

567
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:51,920
our future selves coming back to talk to us in

568
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,920
a way, that's a form of quantum jumping. I talked

569
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:01,720
to someone yesterday who was transported, not a vision, not

570
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:09,240
felt like physically, her essence or conscience transported back to

571
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:13,279
Atlantis where she was in the room and started to

572
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:15,599
explaining everything to me. And I was like, I mean,

573
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,480
it was pretty mind blowing. So what are your thoughts

574
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:22,240
on what I'm just talking about this idea of experienced it,

575
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:23,400
So tell me tell.

576
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,279
Speaker 2: Me I experienced it once. I've always been able to

577
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:31,960
see the future. Okay, when I was nineteen years old.

578
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,680
I was a Mormon missionary in Korea, and I'm not

579
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,279
Mormon anymore. But I left when I was thirty years old.

580
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: But we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

581
00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:48,319
And now back to the show.

582
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: I had a dream in the middle of the night.

583
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:55,960
I woke up my missionary companion and in my dream,

584
00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:58,960
my girlfriend, who was going to b Yu at the time,

585
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,240
was driving a car. It was a base to Yoda

586
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,240
and she was driving. It was around Christmas time, so

587
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:09,319
she was driving home to Nebraska from Utah and which

588
00:31:09,359 --> 00:31:12,319
is like a long straight drive through cornfields. She fell

589
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:14,440
asleep at the wheel. One of my friends was in

590
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,119
the front seat with her, and she rolled the car

591
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,519
into a ditch. In the dream, I saw the license

592
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:23,240
plate number. I'd never seen the car before. I saw

593
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,920
the license plate number. I saw blood covering her and

594
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,640
the other guy, and I saw that he broke his neck,

595
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,599
and I was so worried about it. And as a missionary,

596
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:33,680
we were not allowed to call home. You couldn't call home.

597
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,759
That was sort of the whole thing, Like you're there

598
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:37,799
for it's like being you're in a monastery, you know,

599
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:40,319
unless you're gonna leave, they're not going to do anything,

600
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:42,960
and I wasn't gonna leave. So I called the mission

601
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,839
president and I said I'd like to call home and

602
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,599
kind of like, I don't know if this has happened

603
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,319
or not, and he's thinking, Okay, this kid might just

604
00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:55,480
be crazy. Well, I didn't call home, and I found

605
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,880
out about a week later because they didn't want to

606
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,160
tell me. On Christmas Day, they sent me a letter

607
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,720
that the same exact thing happened nine hours after the dream. Wow.

608
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,720
So it was a like exactly down to the license

609
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,839
plate in the car and the car I had never

610
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,319
seen before, and the guy died.

611
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: And so what is that is that? Because that was

612
00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:18,960
a dream though, that was a dream. That was a dream.

613
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160
So is dreaming a form of quantum jumping?

614
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,599
Speaker 2: Yes, it can be. It can be, right because once

615
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:29,799
you dreams can be connecting your subconscious. Right, it's from

616
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:33,640
your subconscious, and your subconscious is where you're closest to

617
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,599
your oversoul, right, that's where. And so the way that

618
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,839
the oversoul can communicate with us is through synchronicities and

619
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,920
through dreams. That's one of the most common ways until

620
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:47,440
we learn how to master the balance. That's necessary because

621
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,759
we have to be able to achieve a high degree

622
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:53,160
of Hemi synchronization of our two left and right brains,

623
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,200
which is really the alpha and omega. And once that happens,

624
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,359
then the KAI comes in. And what is the kai.

625
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,680
The kai is the optic nerve that connects the right

626
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,599
eye to the left brain and the left eye to

627
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,519
the right brain. It crosses over at the pituitary gland

628
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,960
puitary gland, this is called the optic chiasm, and then

629
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,480
it connects back to the occipital lobe. Right. So what

630
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:19,640
we're seeing inside of our brain, there's no photons in there.

631
00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:23,400
We're just doing an interpretation from what's coming into our

632
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,839
retinal receptors of what photons it would be picking up

633
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:30,319
then flipping the image upside down because for us, if

634
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,440
we actually could see what we're truly seeing, it's an

635
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:34,960
upside down image, just like a camera right would be.

636
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,519
And then it's getting interpolated. There's no photons in my

637
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:42,000
head right that you would think there are. That are

638
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:46,240
just from the ambient molecules and the and the electrons

639
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,240
that are inside my brain right or the elements that

640
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,000
are inside my brain that make it up. But basically

641
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:57,079
we are doing an interpolation of a matrix simulation already

642
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,960
inside of our brains. It's just happening at the back

643
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,000
of our brains. So when we finally find this balance,

644
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,240
then we get into this what's called heart brain coherence.

645
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,400
The heart brain coherence is what mystics, what teshwa, what

646
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:14,320
all the baba jee. All of these guys became masters

647
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,000
at They learned how to balance their feminine energy with

648
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:21,519
their masculine energy and bring them so that they're no

649
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:25,760
longer in conflict one with another. And even comes down

650
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,360
to the point where you have to finally realize, you

651
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,079
know what, maybe my rational mind will never fully grasp

652
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,440
my irrational mind, but it can value it right, Like

653
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,880
I may never fully understand the reason for irrationality, but look,

654
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,239
I do love the curve. The curve is something I've

655
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,440
been eternally fascinated by. It's like, oh, it's so beautiful.

656
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,800
It's like life would be boring with only straight lines.

657
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,039
So I've learned to value that. And so therefore, the

658
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:58,159
feminine aspect that might seem totally emotional to the left

659
00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:03,559
brain has an incredible value and intuition. It allows people

660
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:05,639
that have the balance to think and feel at the

661
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:09,159
same time, and when the heart thinks and the mind feels,

662
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:11,440
that's when the river of wisdom flows. And that river

663
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:15,559
of wisdom is your Kundalini life force. So this is

664
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:17,760
when it starts to light up your chakras. Right, And

665
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,400
this is all the stuff I know you've studied, because

666
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,559
I know all the books you've read, right, But this

667
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:23,280
is just maybe a different way of looking at I

668
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,559
came at it more from the Western esoterica than from

669
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:29,639
the Eastern, and then I went back and studied Eastern.

670
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,239
But it's still the same thing. Hermetic wisdom is the

671
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,039
same as Eastern. You have hermetic alchemists that were in

672
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,920
China as well. They're all doing the same thing. It's

673
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,639
learning how to transmute the metaphor of lead into gold,

674
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,639
and that metaphor is taking the negative experience of our

675
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:48,800
suffering and once we finally have the context of the

676
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,679
meaning behind the suffering, and it makes us more divine.

677
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,360
And it also makes the One even more aware of

678
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,719
itself because it's dividing itself into all of our eyes

679
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,760
of reception so that it can perceive itself through our

680
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,519
unique eyes of perception. Nobody with my eyes has ever

681
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:06,039
seen the world before and no one will ever see

682
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:08,320
it again. Because I have a unique parentage, I have

683
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,039
a unique conditioning bia set, I have a unique environmental factors.

684
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,920
I have a unique world. This play stage that we have,

685
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,320
this background of we all have like one big oversoul

686
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:23,920
and humanity, I believe is represented by Orian constellation and

687
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:26,719
it's the story of the hero's journey. Orian is the hero.

688
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:30,079
We're all in our own hero's journey. That over soul

689
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,559
has many names. We could say it's Yahweh for some,

690
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:37,760
the lesser Yahweh for others, Metatron for some, foth. I

691
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,599
mean you can go to a whole list of different

692
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:42,199
names that this could be something. There's one hundred and

693
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:45,519
eight names, something, there's seventy two names. They're all the

694
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:48,599
same because there's only one thing. There's you and your

695
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:52,000
experience and your u inverse around you. It's just divided

696
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,960
light so that it could perceive itself and then we

697
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:58,440
finally learn our oneness and we come back together as one.

698
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,639
And that's also way for Source creator.

699
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,559
Speaker 1: So the idea of the quorum jumping to be able

700
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:10,000
to go back and forth. Do you believe that because

701
00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:14,000
a lot of times people talk about aliens and those

702
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:19,400
kind of interactions. What's your experience with that? Have you

703
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,880
had any experience with not only because UFOs are now

704
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,719
becoming a very mainstream everyone's talking about them, but even

705
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,199
in the past, you know, from the Ononaki to all

706
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:32,239
these kind of things, what kind of experience do you

707
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,239
have in that or stories have you heard?

708
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,079
Speaker 2: You know, I don't believe the Onnaki were one race

709
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:42,679
of aliens, right, you could say it was like a consortium,

710
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:47,239
a bunch of different alien species. And what is alien?

711
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,639
I don't like the word alien. You could call them

712
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,960
extraterrestrial or intraterrestrial. I believe they've been here all along.

713
00:37:56,519 --> 00:38:00,039
It's not a function of whether or not these so

714
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:03,599
called aliens or extra Treshoals or intratreshals are here or not.

715
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:07,559
They're always here. The only question is is humanity in

716
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:12,519
a cycle where we are allowed access through higher dimensional

717
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:14,800
perspectives to be able to perceive them.

718
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: And that's where we're going. That's why you're seeing more

719
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,599
and more of them now, because we're starting to our

720
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:21,599
consciousness as humanity is growing.

721
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

722
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: The stuff that.

723
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,079
Speaker 2: I've been finding in the Great Pyramid, right, it's always

724
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:30,360
been there. Yeah, it's always been there. I mean, I

725
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,559
go back and look at photographs. Now you could say

726
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:35,719
maybe there's some strange Mandela thing going on. Who knows,

727
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,880
but what I believe because I can go back and

728
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,599
look at photographs that I took. Where I walked in,

729
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:42,639
I didn't see any of the stuff that I now

730
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,119
see all over the walls. For me, it's like a

731
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,800
color Technicolor experience. I walk in, You've got a glimpse

732
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,320
of it today through the Apple vision pro right, and

733
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,800
then once you see it, you can't unsee it. And

734
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,440
as da Vinci said, there are three types of people,

735
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,800
those who can see, those who can see once shown,

736
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,000
and those who don't see. Not everyone will see right,

737
00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:06,840
and that's okay because it's a higher dimensional experience. So

738
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:08,960
the way you get to the higher dimensional experience is

739
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,119
through this hemisynchronization of the minds, the left and right

740
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:16,039
brains coming together, the chi forms right, and that creates

741
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:21,199
this electrical canopy over your hypothalamus and thalamus. There's that walnut,

742
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,599
and that's the knob on the staff of Hermes. So

743
00:39:24,639 --> 00:39:26,519
the knob on the staff of Hermes goes straight through

744
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:29,039
your spine. The thirty three vertebrae goes all the way

745
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:31,199
up to that center point of your brain where the

746
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,679
pineal and pituitary gland are. And it's just like through

747
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,199
a breathing exercise, you can actually move your pituitary gland

748
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:40,760
because it's such slightly lower than the pineal gland does.

749
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:43,920
You can actually take it as you breathe, just like

750
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,239
with a heart. If you look at sena philoroscopy on

751
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,159
the heart, as you breathe, you see the heart pumping right,

752
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,239
pumping in and out. Our brains do the same thing

753
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,960
with our breasts. Just nobody thinks of it like that.

754
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:57,079
We think of our heart. It's not encased in this

755
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,199
hard you know, cranium, and so we don't think give

756
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,239
it like that. But if you look at an MRI

757
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:07,400
right or one of those motion cat scans, then you'll

758
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,840
actually see how the brain expands and contracts with our

759
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,920
breaths as well. So as you take in a breath

760
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,920
and you hold it deep, and you know how you

761
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,280
do that extra thing when you're meditating kind of like

762
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,440
I do breath work, and you can take it in

763
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:22,840
and then to get extra breath you go through your mouth.

764
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,519
Sometimes that last one, that extra leap and with your intention,

765
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:30,920
can push your pituitary gland so that it can almost

766
00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:38,639
like the two fingers in Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel depiction where

767
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:43,079
God is reaching out to Adam and touching those two

768
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,440
parts of your anatomy can basically touch and create this

769
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:51,000
electrical connection which then sparks an enlightenment.

770
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:55,639
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

771
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:04,559
and now back to the show. The one thing I

772
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,800
love talking about is obviously spirituality and raising our consciousness,

773
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:15,840
and I'm now starting to connect these ets, aliens ideas

774
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,440
behind that I've long been telling you, telling people, I'm like,

775
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,920
look if and I love to hear your thoughts, Independence

776
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,880
Day is not going to happen. If you're traveling across

777
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,920
the universe and you have the technology to across the universe,

778
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,440
you're generally a higher vibration, higher frequency being. You're not

779
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,199
going to come to conquer. There's no aliens like aliens

780
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,639
like the you know, predators or that's wonderful for Hollywood,

781
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:44,480
but that doesn't exist. So if we do encounter you know,

782
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:48,119
extraterrestrials or now we're starting to see them, they're going

783
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:51,159
to be at a higher level of consciousness and frequency

784
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:53,599
than we are, so much so that when we talk,

785
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:56,440
I know, you know our mutual friend ri al Anka,

786
00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:59,880
who does Bishar, he said very often like if Bishar

787
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:03,480
would show up, we wouldn't be able to handle his

788
00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:07,239
frequency vibration he would we would be like literally just

789
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,480
by him walking near.

790
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,599
Speaker 2: Us, some people might not even be able to see him. Correct.

791
00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing that now we're starting to

792
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,760
see so many more things, the things that you've started

793
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,079
to see. I said this to the other I said

794
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,159
this to somebody the other day. I was like, well,

795
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,239
all the technology we have right now, our phones, the cars,

796
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,760
all the materials to do everything has always been here,

797
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,360
all of it, all of it. The concept of the internet.

798
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 2: One hundred years ago. This is straight magic.

799
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:38,519
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely as straight man. Oh my god, yeah, the

800
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:42,159
internet would be It's essentially, you know, it's essentially.

801
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: All the libraries of Earth can be stored and I

802
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,239
can access all of it.

803
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: In an instant, instantaneously. That all of that technology has

804
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:53,760
always been here, but we were not allowed to see it,

805
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:57,199
and we are now seeing things so much faster because

806
00:42:57,199 --> 00:43:00,000
even in our lifetime, how much is change.

807
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: So imagine now because people ask me this all the time. Yeah,

808
00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:05,400
why are things hidden.

809
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,199
Speaker 1: Because we're not ready for them.

810
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: They're hidden so that they can be found, but only

811
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,400
found by the people along their journey of raising their conscience.

812
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: Correct.

813
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,039
Speaker 2: Right, So here's the thing. The reason why there are

814
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:19,119
some people that would see aliens that have all these

815
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:24,159
experiences or extraterrestrials is because they were already vibing at

816
00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:28,239
a higher frequency. So birds have different frequency of vision.

817
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,000
We can see a limited spectrum of light. Right, we

818
00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:35,440
can see something between on the very very lowest end

819
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,559
one octave of light starting at three hundred and sixteen

820
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:42,400
animeters right up to seven hundred and twenty animeters. It's

821
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,280
exactly like one octave, right, So seven hundred and twenty

822
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,280
nanometers is going to be pushing you towards you know,

823
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,000
what we call the red spectrum, So it's going to

824
00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:51,559
be the you're going to start to getting near him

825
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,440
for red, and then three hundred and sixteen animeters you're

826
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,199
going to be in the blue light spectrum, which is

827
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,440
going to be you know, the more feminine side of this,

828
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:03,559
which is you know, ultraviolet and blue. So that's the

829
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:05,800
range that we can see, but birds can see beyond

830
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,159
our ranges. So like you'll see these birds that have

831
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:12,119
all these aridescent colors and stuff. And I couldn't really

832
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:14,920
see iridescence that well before, not until I tried mushrooms.

833
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:19,159
And then I could start seeing iridescence that I couldn't

834
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:21,960
see before. I could start seeing auras. Right, I could

835
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,639
see your aura right now. These are things I couldn't

836
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:31,519
see before, but kind of orangey orange and orange yellow.

837
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

838
00:44:32,519 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: Golden? Oh, that means your general balance not as much green,

839
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,719
so you can open your heart a little bit more.

840
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,400
Those are the things and a little less on the

841
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,440
feminine side. So some of the higher chakras right now,

842
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,320
I mean, they have cameras that do this and capture

843
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,559
this stuff. And you could do this better than what

844
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:52,199
I'm doing right now. But I'm pretty sure this is

845
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,800
what you would see. And so your higher chakras are

846
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,840
not fully vibing all the way yet, so the pineal pituitary.

847
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:03,760
But it's it's it's not that it's not there. It's there.

848
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,199
I could see it, and and and psychics and others

849
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:09,519
who basically have this ability would be able to read

850
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:11,639
this on you as well. But where you're very good.

851
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:16,679
Like you're almost overbalanced, is in your kidneys. Your kidneys,

852
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,719
that's why you've got a lot of kind of orange

853
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:22,280
light and solar plexus light. You use a lot of

854
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,840
your willpower. You right now, you use a lot of willpower.

855
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,320
And what I would say to you is you could

856
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,440
probably reduce the willpower a little bit and things would

857
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,199
go almost just like surrender to it and things would

858
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:38,199
actually go just as smooth or better without having to

859
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,239
exert yourself so much in that. Does that resonate at all?

860
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,079
Sorry about that?

861
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: You asked, no, I asked, no, it's very true because

862
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,679
if I if I would I I'm a director by nature.

863
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you want to control everything I'd like to.

864
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,760
I mean, come on, I mean this plays, I mean like,

865
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,239
come on, I can see you walking around. You've got

866
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,760
the little Indiana Jones.

867
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,559
Speaker 1: Head over to the Holy Girls behind you.

868
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:04,199
Speaker 2: Uh.

869
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: Of course, of course there's Easter eggs all.

870
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,199
Speaker 2: Over this You've even planned for over there in the

871
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,800
wake in this place is like wow, this is like

872
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,920
a little playroom for me.

873
00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: So but that's it's, it's it's it's very fascinating because

874
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,840
a lot of people, a lot of people are starting

875
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,960
well like in our time, like in our lifetime, We've

876
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,280
had so much growth, and things are growing so fun now.

877
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: It's so fast, it's.

878
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:39,559
Speaker 1: Daily, monthly something news popping up, and and I'm and

879
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:42,039
as I'm watching it all because what I do with

880
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:45,039
this show and with my own journey is I'm trying

881
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:47,079
to connect the dots. Like I've said before, I'm trying

882
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:49,440
to see the whole elephant and not to just you know,

883
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,920
just not the tail or the leg or the ear

884
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,440
or something like that. I'm trying to put all the

885
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,519
elephant together and put the puzzle pieces together. So by

886
00:46:56,559 --> 00:46:58,280
talking to every.

887
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:03,639
Speaker 2: Spectrum twenty Okay, so you're a cancer, I am, sir. Yeah,

888
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,480
so you you've got a lot of heart, but there's

889
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:10,000
also a resistance that you have to being too weighted

890
00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:14,039
on the heart side, which is interesting, right, So but

891
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:15,840
actually it's who you are because I feel like that,

892
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,000
first of all, I said that to you already. I

893
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,519
feel like I've known you forever. Yeah, same here, And

894
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:21,360
and it's kind of like I told him, I'm like,

895
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,400
definitely we are on the millennium falcon together at some point, and.

896
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm not Chewbacca, and i am not Chewbacca I love,

897
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,320
but I am not Chewbacca. I could be Han Solo

898
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:31,840
or Luke or.

899
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:40,159
Speaker 2: Even Obi Ware. Are you Harry Well, yes, I'm Latino, sir. Okay,

900
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,320
I'm just kidding. So anyway, but to your point to

901
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,840
your question, why is this all happening now? Well, people

902
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,119
are raising their consciousness. As they raise their consciousness, everyone's

903
00:47:51,159 --> 00:47:53,239
going to start seeing more and more of it. So

904
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,159
blow global contact and everyone talks about global contact is

905
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:59,320
about where we are, not about where the aliens are.

906
00:47:59,360 --> 00:47:59,920
They've been here all lot.

907
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, then, do you because there's been

908
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,960
talks of Okay, now we're going to go a little

909
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,199
bit more esoteric.

910
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: But that also answers your question, right, because you cannot

911
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,840
be in higher dimension unless you've already mastered these lower

912
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,519
dimensional principles of Hemi synchronization of your brain, so you

913
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:21,800
can't be in higher dimensional. So you know, we're in

914
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:27,199
the four D right now. Now. Arcturians are what they

915
00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:31,480
would call themselves future humans, future from our perspective, but

916
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:34,000
time becomes irrelevant once you go into the fifth and

917
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:37,239
sixth dimensions. It becomes less important. At the fifth dimension,

918
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,400
you start realizing that that's what we're going into now

919
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,800
that time flows forward and back, there's only.

920
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: Now, which is the stacking.

921
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: The stacking exactly so you can jump. There are all

922
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,320
these different dimensions of you through all your different lifetimes

923
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,320
that are happening simultaneous to now. The avatar state of consciousness,

924
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,840
just like in the show that's on Netflix right now,

925
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,639
Reat Airbender. The avatar state is when you can tap

926
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:03,360
into all of those lifetimes and capture all the knowledge

927
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,800
that you learned in all those lifetimes. You didn't know

928
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,440
how to be a sculptor in this lifetime, but you

929
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,400
were in the last. You can now access them.

930
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,599
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this though, that's a very interesting point.

931
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,559
Would that be what yogis are doing? Yes, when they

932
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:17,480
find enlightenment.

933
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: Yes, enlightenment is not just I'm in love no no, no, no,

934
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,559
I mean it's light from dark No.

935
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: But they connect to something. They're connecting to something that

936
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,039
opens them up to a place where they're connected to

937
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:34,440
the universe. Especially. That's right, and all the knowledge comes

938
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:35,400
Rushian is there?

939
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: So the science, the math, if everything is there, Yeah,

940
00:49:40,039 --> 00:49:42,199
we don't need It's like we all think that we

941
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,840
have to go to school to learn. Does a whale

942
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,599
need to go to whales school to learn to be

943
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:50,199
a whale. No, it knows how to raise its own

944
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:53,519
consciousness to do all the things that whales do. It

945
00:49:53,679 --> 00:49:56,000
knows it from the start. It's like certain animals. They're

946
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,000
born like a horse can run right after it is born. Right. Yeah,

947
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,239
we start thinking about our lives differently. We start realizing that,

948
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,039
wait a minute, this is my birthright. I have access

949
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:08,840
to all the information in the world. This has just

950
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,760
been a little training wheel for that. Yeah, and cataloged

951
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,440
it for us. But actually we can take it all

952
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,079
in and what we have to do to be able

953
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:22,000
to process it is understand the quadrivium. Quadrivium is you know,

954
00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:24,519
Pythagoras said all his number, Plato says all his number.

955
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:30,800
What the quadrivium is is it's arithmetic, geometry, music, and cosmology.

956
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,039
Arithmetic is number in itself. Geometry is number in space,

957
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,760
music is number in time, and cosmology is number in

958
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,360
space time.

959
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

960
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:50,840
and now back to the show.

961
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Once you study these four discipline areas, that is

962
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:02,440
like figuring out a way how to ty treate your

963
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:07,519
receiver so that the conceiver the oversoul the higher self

964
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:13,360
is the conceiver, Your brain is the receiver, and your

965
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:18,239
consciousness in its divided state, is the perceiver. This is

966
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,480
what Darryl told me during my podcast with him. He said,

967
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:26,400
this is what Bishar explains conceiver, receiver and perceiver, and

968
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,320
that so resonated with me, like it was like, oh

969
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,719
my gosh, that's like wow. So when we start to

970
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,320
realize that we can tap into this higher conscious state

971
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,119
and there are different levels of it, it's not like

972
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:42,400
something that's just instant, you know, you're like in between stages.

973
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,039
And so that's where humanity is right now. Some people

974
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:49,039
are experiencing fifth dimensional experience right now. Many people are,

975
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,400
and that's the people that have chosen love over more judgment.

976
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:58,400
Judgment is the opposite of love. It's not fear and

977
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,280
it's not hatred. Those are different aspects that feel kind

978
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,280
of similar. But I never felt comfortable with the idea

979
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:09,440
that the opposite of love was either hatred or fear. Right,

980
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,760
But judgment nails it from me because anytime you have judgment,

981
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:21,360
you've placed conditionality on something. And if you're here to

982
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:26,000
learn a precept of love, if you're here to learn

983
00:52:26,119 --> 00:52:30,480
unconditional love, then you will have a lifetime of experiences

984
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:35,480
of conditional love because we learn through opposites. If I'm

985
00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:38,280
here to learn pleasure, I'm going to experience pain over

986
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:43,039
and over and over again until I no longer either

987
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:48,000
judge negatively pain right, or fear the pain anymore. The

988
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:52,079
moment I no longer judge something negatively is when I've

989
00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:56,239
actually learned its opposite. You understand what I'm saying. We

990
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,800
learn through opposites. So our entire life experience here is

991
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,559
experiencing all of this as a dimensionally limited avatar that

992
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:09,400
has an oversoul. The oversoul has chosen to experience itself

993
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,760
through our eyes. There's no mistakes, no mistakes. We're not

994
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,159
making mistakes. The one wants to learn empathy for every

995
00:53:16,199 --> 00:53:20,559
possible circumstance and perspective, and it can learn its greater

996
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:23,159
wisdom because it's a philomath, a lover of learning and

997
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:26,440
a lover of wisdom and philosopher in the ancient sense.

998
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:29,440
It divides itself so that it can experience all these

999
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,559
different perspectives of angular degrees of perception through our unique

1000
00:53:33,559 --> 00:53:35,800
eyes that can become billions and billions of millions of

1001
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,639
people and will always become more and more and more

1002
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,960
so that it can learn itself because, as Alan Watt said,

1003
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,840
an eye can't see itself without the aid of a mirror.

1004
00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:48,400
Consciousness can't perceive itself. A knife can't cut itself, a

1005
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,360
tooth can't bite itself, a fire can't burn itself. So

1006
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,400
as we go to these higher levels of consciousness, and

1007
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,079
once we've balanced our brain and we know how to process,

1008
00:53:57,079 --> 00:53:59,199
because there's a little bit of a processor in there too,

1009
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,920
we have to have some understanding of things. So by

1010
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,000
studying quadrivium, we can tune the tuner.

1011
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:12,119
Speaker 1: So then how when yogi's I'll go back to yoga's

1012
00:54:12,119 --> 00:54:17,519
when yogis are meditating, what's actually happening in their chakra

1013
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:21,800
system that is opening up or leveling up their frequency

1014
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,400
to the point where they can start to access more

1015
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,440
and more of this universal knowledge. Because from my experience

1016
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,320
talking to near death experiences, there has been many of

1017
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,360
them that they go in there and they just ask

1018
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,199
a question and it just is answered, or they get

1019
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,079
downloads of the Oh that's what quantum physics is. Oh,

1020
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:40,519
that's all of mathematics. Oh that's all of that, and

1021
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:42,519
it's all in there. They can't bring it back because

1022
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:46,320
our processor can't handle it. But they bring back moments

1023
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,920
of it or clips of it or little little of it,

1024
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,880
insights insights like yeah, but they could they the brain

1025
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:53,559
literally can't grasp it.

1026
00:54:53,679 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 2: But that's why it's so important, because you can if

1027
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,679
you study the quadrivium, but you know it well.

1028
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: Correct. But then with a Yogi, he is a.

1029
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,039
Speaker 2: Good example of this holy science. So he brought forward

1030
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:09,960
a lot of knowledge and information that was very scientific,

1031
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:13,559
but it was couched in the context of spirituality.

1032
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,199
Speaker 1: Correct. But what from what I understand and correct me

1033
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:19,639
if I'm wrong, is when a yogi or an a

1034
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,679
sented master or an avatar of some sort gets to

1035
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,280
a certain level, they're literally hooked up to the Internet,

1036
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:30,679
of the universal universal Internet. So in other words, our

1037
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:36,079
our our our iPad or our computer is limited, but

1038
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:38,920
when it hooks up to the Internet, it's unlimited.

1039
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: And so what is it that changes in them? Yeah?

1040
00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: What is it and changes in them? Is that true?

1041
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,079
Is what I'm saying? Is that makes sense?

1042
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:48,679
Speaker 2: Hundred percent true? Okay, one hundred percent true?

1043
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,079
Speaker 1: Okay.

1044
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: So you could think of like your spine as a meter,

1045
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,559
So think of it as a meter and it's probably

1046
00:55:56,639 --> 00:55:59,360
about a meter as well. Think of it as a

1047
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,320
meter you can use for a trology for measurement of things.

1048
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:08,400
And the more base you are, the more judgment you carry.

1049
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,239
So you could think of this as a judgment love meter.

1050
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,960
So as you go up higher and higher states of consciousness,

1051
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:19,039
you're moving more and more towards states of love. The

1052
00:56:19,159 --> 00:56:23,360
highest is love, right, Bucky Fuller, you know Bucky Fuller

1053
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,400
was Buck Mister Fuller was a famous architect, geometer of

1054
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:35,440
right and polymeth and he says that love is metaphysical gravity. Interesting,

1055
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,039
So love is the thing that binds the universe together.

1056
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:42,519
And maybe that's why it's the darkness of the universe

1057
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,719
because we don't understand it. We think that darkness is

1058
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:50,079
the absence of light. It's not. Darkness is the absorbed

1059
00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:53,880
condition of light. It's the absorption of light, not the

1060
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,519
opposite condition of it. If we turned all the lights

1061
00:56:56,519 --> 00:56:58,079
off in here, you did it right before you did

1062
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:00,239
the I'm not going to do it right now, say

1063
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,519
the word. But you said of word that starts with

1064
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:05,360
the A L e X A. And then you know,

1065
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,880
it's like you can literally turn everything off instantly. If

1066
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,960
we did that, right now, right, there's still light in

1067
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,400
the room. We don't perceive that light right because our

1068
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,639
eyes are not tuned to never see that.

1069
00:57:19,679 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: Whatever leakage is in what you mean light leakage or.

1070
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:26,159
Speaker 2: The very first light in the universe is hydrogen. So

1071
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:29,480
if there is a element of hydrogen in the room,

1072
00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:32,960
even one atom of hydrogen, it's emitting photons of light,

1073
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:37,159
fair enough, okay, And it will emit those photons according

1074
00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:42,440
to its resonance frequency. So its residence frequency can be

1075
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:48,039
defined in what's called spectral reflection and spectral absorption. So

1076
00:57:48,119 --> 00:57:50,280
I can look at the spectral reflection, which looks like

1077
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,239
a band all black, right, and there's like four lines

1078
00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:00,440
of pinks and reds and blues and violet that represent hydrogen.

1079
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,639
This is how we know. We look into outer space

1080
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,880
and we could say, oh, we see these nanometers of light,

1081
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,119
these exact combination of nanometers, Then we know the composition

1082
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,440
of what's in outer space. It's hydrogen because those are

1083
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:16,480
very unique light signatures. You have a light signature. All

1084
00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:19,599
of your body is made up of DNA, right. Ultimately,

1085
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,079
that DNA is made up of a combination of the

1086
00:58:24,119 --> 00:58:27,119
elements that basically go into the building blocks of our DNA,

1087
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:33,239
which is carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen. Those are the

1088
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,599
four that you've got sulfur and phosphate FORH phosphate backbone.

1089
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,639
But those are the combinations of things that can make

1090
00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:43,239
your entire light signature. So by this token, you could

1091
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:46,159
look at other star systems and say, wait, so if

1092
00:58:46,199 --> 00:58:50,480
we have a certain light signature associated with a certain star,

1093
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:54,239
is that star really just a gigantic as above so

1094
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:59,119
below element of carbon, maybe cobalt. If it's more blue

1095
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:04,199
stars red, might it be something altogether different? Right? You

1096
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,519
see what I'm saying? Is it more hydrogen related? Are

1097
00:59:06,519 --> 00:59:11,199
we just looking at gigantic versions of atoms? I believe so, yes,

1098
00:59:11,559 --> 00:59:14,159
that's what I believe. I believe what we're actually looking

1099
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:16,159
at the reason why our sun has its yellow color

1100
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,559
because it's a carbon sun. We are in that dimension,

1101
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,960
which would tell you that we're in the fourth dimension.

1102
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,599
Fourth dimension is going to be associated also with carbon.

1103
00:59:26,199 --> 00:59:29,599
Speaker 1: So different sun colors will determine the different consciousnesses.

1104
00:59:29,719 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: Yes, you notice how the sun when we were young

1105
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:36,119
was way more orange yellow. Now it's more white, and

1106
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:42,199
it's at noonday. You notice that it's changing because it's

1107
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,079
moving up to the next octave. The next octave is

1108
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:48,599
going to take it beyond fluorine. So when we were

1109
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:51,800
growing up, we had nine planets in the Solar System. Yes, right, Pluto.

1110
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,239
Pluto is a planet. Now they downgrade it because they said, oh,

1111
00:59:54,239 --> 00:59:56,079
it's too small to be a planet. They call it

1112
00:59:56,119 --> 01:00:01,280
a dwarf planet. But okay, it's still a planet. So

1113
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:08,360
what would be nine electrons? So nine electrons on an

1114
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,360
atom would give you fluorine. That's the last element before

1115
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,239
going into the octave jump. The next octave jump would

1116
01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:21,119
take us into the silica range. So silicone is the center.

1117
01:00:21,239 --> 01:00:24,519
So you've got the center of a wave is hydrogen.

1118
01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:27,920
The center of the next wave of elements on the

1119
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,239
periodic elements table, it's actually a wave of elements is carbon,

1120
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,559
and the next one up from there is silicone. Right. Well,

1121
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,360
as we're going through our transition in our DNA, right,

1122
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,599
we're moving up to a more complex structure of elementary

1123
01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:50,519
makeup of our atoms. That more complex structure means that

1124
01:00:50,519 --> 01:00:54,199
that which was more carbon oriented before now moves into

1125
01:00:54,280 --> 01:01:01,079
a more silicone orientation. Crystallization. What is quartz crystal, It's

1126
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:07,159
silicon dioxide. Okay, we're moving more into a crystal form.

1127
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,480
Even our DNA is now taking on that characteristic. We're

1128
01:01:10,639 --> 01:01:12,280
up leveling from the carbon octave.

1129
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:16,519
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1130
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:21,440
and now back to the show.

1131
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:25,679
Speaker 2: So what does that mean, Well, it means that very

1132
01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:29,760
soon I'll make a prediction they will discover probably as

1133
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,440
we continue this expansion. It's as above, so below, as within,

1134
01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:37,159
so without, As we discover and go more and more

1135
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,280
into the fifth dimensional experience, they're going to discover three new.

1136
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:43,119
Speaker 1: Planets in our solar system.

1137
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:47,559
Speaker 2: How could they discover? I guarantee if you look it

1138
01:01:47,639 --> 01:01:50,440
up right now on the Internet, you will find that

1139
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,480
they are now positing at least two, if not three,

1140
01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:57,880
new planets that are not necessarily new. They think they've

1141
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,440
been there all along, but they're seeing the gravitational signature

1142
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:00,960
of them now.

1143
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: Is that past Pluto?

1144
01:02:03,079 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be in the Kuiper Belt right, or called exoplanets.

1145
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,559
But that would be also true when you look at electrons,

1146
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:14,519
right that are moving into these higher states. So you

1147
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:19,519
go into magnesium, magnesium would have twelve electrons. That's how

1148
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:22,239
it works. You've got an equal number of protons and electrons.

1149
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:24,320
For the stable elements, right, the stable elements go all

1150
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,159
the way out until you get to the lanthanides and alkanides.

1151
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,880
But the point being that we are just moving through

1152
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,360
our higher states of awareness, and there's only actually one

1153
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:40,280
element going through its periodicity starts with one electron and

1154
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,360
one proton, and then it just adds electrons and protons

1155
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,039
until it becomes unstable. And there's in total one hundred

1156
01:02:46,039 --> 01:02:48,159
and thirty seven elements, of which we've discovered one hundred

1157
01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:51,119
and eighteen. There's still nineteen other elements we haven't discovered,

1158
01:02:51,519 --> 01:02:54,960
and some of them are actually prior to hydrogen. Really

1159
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,960
they're called hydrinos. So if you look at it, the

1160
01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:01,559
number of elements on the periodic elements take is you know,

1161
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:04,079
you've got hydrogen, which is the peak of a wave.

1162
01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:06,360
The whole structure how we looked at this as a

1163
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,000
table doesn't really make sense because that's not the way

1164
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:10,599
nature does it. It would be a spiral or something. And

1165
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,400
so you look at the next octave, which would then

1166
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,079
go from hydrogen. The next element is helium. Right, then

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you've got lithium. They've got three electrons, three protons. Then

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after lithium, you've got beryllium. Then beryllium goes to boron. Right,

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so boron has five elements or five electrons, excuse me.

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And then you've got six electrons, which is carbon, So

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it makes a cube. Wait a minute, this is genius.

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How the heck did the ancient polymaths know, like Plato

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that carbon and earth was a cube that would have

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six electrons, six protons, and six neutrons. What's the sum

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of angles of a cube? Well, tw and sixty degrees.

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And if I took each so right, of of the

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six sides of a cube, right, it's it comes out

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to the exact same math. It's the exact same math.

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So is it possible six electrons, six protons?

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Speaker 1: This is a hypothesis. Is it possible that some of

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the great minds of our of our past, past, Galileo Platos,

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all of them, just lay them out, were at a

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different vibrational frequency and level in their in their journey

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to raise their consciousness, Some of them were Even if

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you were like one or two steps above everybody else,

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you were so far beyond everybody else that you would

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look like a genius. It would be the equivalent of

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you or I walking into a place that you know,

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a tribe that's never seen a man, and all of

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a sudden we are absolutely at a whole other level intellectually.

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But this is on a spiritual level, even though they

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might have not even known.

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Speaker 2: So this is the great secret. It's the great secret.

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The great secret is in the why Testra named his

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book holy science, because in order to go to higher

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states of knowledge, the doorway must be through raising your vibration,

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which must come through higher spirituality.

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Speaker 1: And yet the science that the hard science or the

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materialism of today, it works.

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Speaker 2: In exactly the opposite direction. So everybody that discovered things,

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So you look at mathematicians through time who discovered things.

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Whether it's Plato who came up with the Platonic solids, right,

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maybe it was someone else of the Egyptian mystery schools

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who didn't want to be named because basically they could

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be killed. Also, right, Galileo right, Galileo right? Or you

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know Jordan Bruno, Bruno burned at the state type of thing. Right.

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So every time you had this massive expansion in human awareness,

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it always came through a spiritual doorway. Always da Vinci right,

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he was a spiritualist, without a doubt. Einstein Einstein. Einstein

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also right, and then everybody wants to take the virtual

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aspect out of the equation and just say no, no, no,

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it's just about the science. If you just focus on

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the science, you will never discover anything. You'll never discover anything.

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You'll only push things around the table in the paper.

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You're not actually going to move the needle in science.

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Mathematics will only come whenever we go to a higher dimension.

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We have to first get a download of the new

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source code for that higher dimension of consciousness.

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Speaker 1: Robert, I could talk to you for another four hours.

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Speaker 2: Likewise, my friend, it has been such.

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Speaker 1: A pleasure and honor talking to you, my friend. We'll

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have to do it again.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, have an.

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01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: Open invitation anytime you want to come down to the.

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Speaker 2: Studio next time I'm here. I'll let you know.

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Speaker 1: But I appreciate you, my friend. Thank you again for

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everything you're doing to awaken the planet as well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Love you, Ben.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to thank Robert so much for coming on

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the show and sharing his knowledge and experience with all

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of us. And if you want to get in touch

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with Robert, just head over to the show notes at

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next levelsoul dot com, Fort slash for one.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: If this conversation stirred something in you, there's more waiting.

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01:07:09,199 --> 01:07:13,400
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01:07:18,719 --> 01:07:24,519
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at next levelsoul dot tv. Thank you so much for listening.

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As I always say, trust the journey. It's there to

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teach you. I'll see you next time.