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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my friends. Broadcasting from Studio a at Proven Winners,

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<v Speaker 1>Color Choice Shrubs. It's The Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hirvella, me,

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<v Speaker 1>Rick weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think annuals. Flowering annuals to me, aren't

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<v Speaker 1>an investment like a tree. They're more of an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>They're an event. Investment is traditionally defined as the commitment

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<v Speaker 1>of resources to achieve later benefits, and the key word

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<v Speaker 1>here is later. See with flowering annuals, we can fill

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<v Speaker 1>gaps in our landscape, have instant impact, season long color.

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<v Speaker 1>Many annuals are edibles. Of course, pollinators love them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a great way to teach kids, and shopping for them

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<v Speaker 1>is an adventure in spring. Just ask Stacy and her month.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, it's one of my favorite things that I do

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<v Speaker 2>all your life. You know, I think of annuals. It's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting that you bring up the investment thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly how to classify them, but they're akin to

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<v Speaker 2>a party, you know, like going all out with decorations

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<v Speaker 2>and food and yeah, sure, it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 2>condensed you know, short term payoff, but it's so worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to take advantage of the summer, well you can.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, shopping for annuals I think is honestly one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most fun things. It's even more fun if

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<v Speaker 2>you can do it with someone like your mom or

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<v Speaker 2>someone that you really love. But it's just it's a delight.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love it too, and I agree an event

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<v Speaker 1>or an opportunity. And then if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it used to be we had Decoration Day,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course Mother's Day. We can thank Anna Jarvis

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<v Speaker 1>and Woodrow Wilson years ago they designated the second Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>in May to be Mother's Day. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>we had Decoration Day, which became Memorial Day, with which

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<v Speaker 1>became the fourth Monday in the month of May. So

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<v Speaker 1>you take those holidays and you throw into the mix

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<v Speaker 1>that it's the last projected frost date for many people

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. Throw all those three together and wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a flower festival.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, a very condensed like four week flower festival, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what a great time it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a fantasic killing.

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<v Speaker 2>Me over here, it's so far away.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, well, you know, uh, from the perspective of

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<v Speaker 1>the garden center industry. We used to years ago, when

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<v Speaker 1>I first started out in the industry, we would sell

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<v Speaker 1>annuals big time during the month of May and June.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm finding it is an April to October thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The party goes on for the entire spring, summer, and

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<v Speaker 1>fall period, and that's what makes annuals so great. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>the envelope please, twenty twenty five National Annual of the

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<v Speaker 1>Year is super Tunia Mini Vista yellow petunia, What cheerful blooms.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to say they must have consulted with

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<v Speaker 1>Stacy on this one, because Stacy, I know how much

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<v Speaker 1>you love yellow in your landscape.

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<v Speaker 2>I do love yellow, and I think it is an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting choice for the annual of the year because I

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<v Speaker 2>think very few people when they think of petunias, yellow

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<v Speaker 2>is probably not even remotely part of their mental image,

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<v Speaker 2>part of the conversation. People don't really think of yellow petunias,

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<v Speaker 2>sure at all. But I have actually grown I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>grown this particular one, but I did grow the Supertunia,

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<v Speaker 2>saffron finch petunia and beauty, yeah, just beautiful. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's high time that people start thinking of petunia's

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<v Speaker 2>is an opportunity for you. They're not like a Namby

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<v Speaker 2>Pamby yellow, not that there's anything wrong with that. They're

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<v Speaker 2>like a good, bold, beautiful yellow, and I love it

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<v Speaker 2>they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They are sunshine, And of course I love the mini

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<v Speaker 1>vista syria of supertunias. They bloom their heads off. They

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<v Speaker 1>can handle the heat. Last year I took some many

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<v Speaker 1>vistas that were in hanging baskets. Just overflowing the hanging baskets.

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<v Speaker 1>I popped the hanging baskets off and plunged them into

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. They were fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they are one that you can grow in the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people get confused sort of about what

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<v Speaker 2>the difference between supertunias and super bells are. One is

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<v Speaker 2>a petunia, one is a Caliber CoA. Superbells is a

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<v Speaker 2>Caliber CoA. But the Caliber Coas they don't recommend putting

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<v Speaker 2>in the ground because they need such good drainage. They

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<v Speaker 2>were made for containers, whereas a supertunias, Yeah, put them

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<v Speaker 2>in the ground, make them into a flower filled ground

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<v Speaker 2>cover and party it up.

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<v Speaker 1>The wonderful thing about many vista supertunias, or in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>the plant of the year. The flowering annual plant to

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<v Speaker 1>the year is the fact that they're self cleaning, really

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<v Speaker 1>no maintenance.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't have to worry.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of those things that I think people

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<v Speaker 2>who petunias back in the day are just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not growing petunias. You have to deadhead them. It's smelly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's sticky, it's horrible. I'm never growing petunias again. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, honestly, and I don't even say that because

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<v Speaker 2>I work here, but proven winners really did change all

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<v Speaker 2>of that with the supertunias. It's a whole new way

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<v Speaker 2>to look at petunias. And if you have been holding

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<v Speaker 2>back from growing petunias for those reasons, you have those

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<v Speaker 2>you know, bad memories, It's high time that you rethink

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<v Speaker 2>it and bring some petunias into your annual plantings.

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<v Speaker 1>It's flower power Supertunia Mini vista yellow petunias. The Kalladium

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year envelope please heart to heart, Blushing Bride

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<v Speaker 1>and Stacy for kalladiums. I love the fact that many

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<v Speaker 1>koladiums now are both sun and shade. They're not just

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<v Speaker 1>relegated to the shade. In this case, a strap leaf

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<v Speaker 1>kualladium with elongated foliage. That and it's ruffled also, And

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<v Speaker 1>so you see these bright pink leaves edged in a

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<v Speaker 1>bright green border with patches of white. Can handle sun

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<v Speaker 1>or shade, although if you're growing them in the south,

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<v Speaker 1>probably better off in shade. But here in the Midwest

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<v Speaker 1>or north, sun or shade. Just love kalladiums and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they're so heat and humidity tolerance.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Kaladiums are another great example of a plant

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<v Speaker 2>that has come so far from where it was. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're going to remember this, but do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember back in the day when you ordered kalladiums, your

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<v Speaker 2>choices were green, white, pink, or red. There was no variety,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no series. You had no idea what you're getting,

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<v Speaker 2>just the color. And now it's just what has happened

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<v Speaker 2>in the kalladium breeding world, between Heart to Heart and

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<v Speaker 2>everything else out there. It's truly extraordinary, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it just really makes people rethink again this plant. And

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<v Speaker 2>they do take sun, especially if you live in a

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<v Speaker 2>colder climate. But I think especially for gardeners who have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of shade and want to have fabulous containers,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a choice that should not be overlooked. You

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<v Speaker 2>can stop thinking about, you know, feeling bad that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't get flowers. Just pile on these kalladiums. You'll have

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<v Speaker 2>tons of color, tons of texture. They are absolutely beautiful. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I unfortunately am having a little pity party over here

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<v Speaker 2>since we're talking about parties, because I have tried to

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<v Speaker 2>grow heart to heart kalladiums and the deer had other intentions.

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<v Speaker 2>So unfortunately these are not very dear resistant. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>had any trouble with them eating petunias. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>they like that, you know, kind of stickiness either. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I unfortunately is they have actually climbed my front steps

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the kalladiums. So just a little word

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<v Speaker 2>of warning for those of you who also have to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with deer. But if you don't, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>shade and you're looking for something just fabulous and interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't really do much better than hard to heartkalladiums.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. Coming up in segment four, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Noah dear Ohanian. He is the director of

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<v Speaker 1>product management with Proven Winners. We're going to talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about some of these fabulous varieties that are coming out

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Exciting varieties and of course recipe of the

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<v Speaker 1>year also for flowering annuals. This year it's Ireland, Champagne,

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<v Speaker 1>Toast and Vista View. Now, Stacey, I love the recipe

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<v Speaker 1>Ireland because to me, it looks like the flag of Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got goldilocks, rocks, bidens, you have super bells, over

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<v Speaker 1>easy Calibrica and then a favorite of many people luscious basket,

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<v Speaker 1>tangiglow a Lantana. Now you put all those together, that

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<v Speaker 1>recipe almost looks like the flag of Irons.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a lot of color. Now for our listeners

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<v Speaker 2>who maybe aren't familiar with it, proven winners every year

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<v Speaker 2>puts out creates these different recipes of combinations of annuals. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>for me personally, combining annuals is my favorite thing about

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<v Speaker 2>growing annuals. But there's a lot of people who just

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<v Speaker 2>want that ready made, fool proof opportunity, and for them,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you know the recipes, whether it's the

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<v Speaker 2>recipes of the Year or just one of the many

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<v Speaker 2>recipes on the website, it just makes a great starting

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<v Speaker 2>point for designing your plants.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these recipes and combinations too, are not a recipe

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<v Speaker 1>or a combination where someone's sitting at their desk thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this would be cool. No, these are proven, tested and tried,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know these recipes are going to work

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Now. In addition to the annuals of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>there are many new introductions this year. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Noah about it. In segment four. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>totally tempted Kufia, which I'm very excited about. Aero Magica

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<v Speaker 1>purple heliotrope. This one's fantastic because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have heliotrope melt out on them in the heat of summer,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one is a fabulous cultivar, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>recommend that. And then Stacy, I loved Scavola before it

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<v Speaker 1>was popular to love Scavola. And now we have star Diva.

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<v Speaker 1>So as opposed to the hand or fan shaped flowers

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<v Speaker 1>that were used to we now have star shaped flowers.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are so many great new annuals coming down

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<v Speaker 1>the line this year. I can't wait for frost free days.

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<v Speaker 2>I know me too. More color, a little less white,

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<v Speaker 2>little more color would would not be a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming, folks. Hang on, we'll get there. Plants on

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<v Speaker 1>Trial is next. Let's see how Stacey ties this all

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<v Speaker 1>together here on the Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Color Choice dot com. Greeting's gardening friends, and welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Gardening Simplified Show. We're talking the Annual of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year. We've been through the shrub of the Year,

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<v Speaker 2>we've been through the Perennial of the year, and now

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<v Speaker 2>it is time for the Annual of the Year. And

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<v Speaker 2>like we've said in previous shows, the plants of the

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<v Speaker 2>Year from the Proven Winner's brand are selected by industry experts.

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<v Speaker 2>Were each of the partners that does perennials, shrubs and

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<v Speaker 2>annuals does it in a slightly different way. The way

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<v Speaker 2>that we do it for shrubs is we have some

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest growers in the US vote on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of course, the important thing and what's really great

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<v Speaker 2>about the Plants of the Year is that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be easy to find. And you know, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many proven winners plants out there that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times you'll fall in love with something and it can

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<v Speaker 2>be hard to find. And so the great thing about

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<v Speaker 2>the annuals and perennials and shrubs of the year is

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<v Speaker 2>that everybody's on board. They've known about this for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years. You're only hearing about it right now,

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<v Speaker 2>but the industry has known about it for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>so the supply is going to be there for you

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<v Speaker 2>to actually use and incorporate in your garden. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>also just I think, a nice guideline for trying new

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that, you know, and probably a little

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<v Speaker 1>easier with as than it is, let's say with perennials

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<v Speaker 1>or shrubs. But that's why we see so many new

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<v Speaker 1>introductions every year.

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<v Speaker 2>In annuals, right, And that's what we try to do

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<v Speaker 2>is just to get people to focus on one thing

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<v Speaker 2>because we do have so much great stuff. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>week for plants on Trial because we do have so

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<v Speaker 2>many great plants. So that's why I always try to

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<v Speaker 2>tie it to whatever our theme of the episode, is,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, thinking about this week's as you already said, Rick,

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<v Speaker 2>I love yellow and the garden, and I have found

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<v Speaker 2>that yellow in the garden for me is not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>something that I personally select. It's just something that has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's partly because I do grow, you know, a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>not all, but mostly native plants, and a great number

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<v Speaker 2>of North American native flowering perennials and shrubs for that matter,

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<v Speaker 2>do happen to have yellow flowers. So by virtue of

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<v Speaker 1>And I think when spring arrives, to celebrate, we should

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<v Speaker 1>do a show where we're both wearing yellow. I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>out and find something yellow when the landscape came all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's a deal, okay, all right. So, and I

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<v Speaker 2>love I love yellow that much. I'm wearing yellow earings

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<v Speaker 2>right now. You just can't see him under the headphones.

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<v Speaker 2>But the cool thing about yellow in the garden is

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about it, is that yellow is truly

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<v Speaker 2>a seasonless color. I think a lot of other colors

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<v Speaker 2>in the garden you know, you think of them as

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<v Speaker 2>just being very associated with a season, like you aren't

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<v Speaker 2>really seeing like a lot of red flowers or red

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<v Speaker 2>stuff outside of summer and fall, and pink is highly

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<v Speaker 2>associated with, you know, summer, and purple is highly associated

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<v Speaker 2>with that sort of at least in my garden, that

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<v Speaker 2>late spring early summer transitional period when you've got your

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<v Speaker 2>neepata and your selvia and all of that stuff flowering.

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<v Speaker 2>But yellow really is a seasonless color. In the spring,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got your daffodils and you're in your forsythia. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know summer, as we've just been through all sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. In fall, I mean, of course, so much

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<v Speaker 2>yellow in fall, whether you're talking about a ginko or

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<v Speaker 2>you know what plants can.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite yellow ginko.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great choice. And then on top of all

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<v Speaker 2>those yellow flowers, there's also tons of yellow foliage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, as a matter of fact, I know where you're

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<v Speaker 1>going with this segment. You're going to talk about spyria, right, Spyria.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not going to talk about spyria today. We

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<v Speaker 2>do have yellow leaved spyria, but I am talking about

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<v Speaker 2>a plant that people aren't used to seeing with yellow foliage,

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<v Speaker 2>the mystery thickens, and I won't keep you in suspense

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<v Speaker 2>any longer. This week's plant on trial is sky do

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<v Speaker 2>gold blueberry.

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<v Speaker 1>What a gorgeous plant.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a very unique plant. So if you live

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<v Speaker 2>in West Michigan, of course, blueberries are no stranger to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You see them all the time. You kind of can't

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<v Speaker 2>not see them if you're driving anywhere around here. But

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<v Speaker 2>the homegrowing blueberries are different. You know, they're smaller, they're

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<v Speaker 2>more garden friendly, They're not like the big, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>six feet tall plants that you'll see out in the

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<v Speaker 2>actual blueberry farms. So skydew gold is a gold leaf

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<v Speaker 2>ornamental blueberry. And through the show you're gonna hear me

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it as an ornamental blueberry, and you might

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<v Speaker 2>be thinking, like, well, what exactly does that mean? Does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean it doesn't have fruit? And the fact is

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<v Speaker 2>it does set fruit, it does flower, and it does

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<v Speaker 2>have fruit, and that fruit is edible. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>a blueberry that was selected specifically for its looks in

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<v Speaker 2>the garden or landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can see why. When we were in the

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<v Speaker 1>trial garden, Adriana, you and myself, I saw it in

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<v Speaker 1>the distance and Stacy, I was drawn towards it, like

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<v Speaker 1>what is that? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And I have had the same experience in our trial

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<v Speaker 2>garden too, where you know, Adrian and I'll be walking

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<v Speaker 2>around going to make videos and something will catch your

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<v Speaker 2>eye and I'll be like, oh my gosh, what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll go over there, and sure enough it's a sky.

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<v Speaker 2>It's happened to us more than once in different spots

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<v Speaker 2>in the garden because it is just such a showy plant.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a gold leaf blueberry, and the foliage

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<v Speaker 2>starts out kind of green in the spring, with that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of pinkish red flush that is common for blueberries.

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<v Speaker 2>But then as that foliage expands and starts to mature,

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<v Speaker 2>starts to you know, photosynthesize, it creates these bright golden

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<v Speaker 2>pigments and those are going to stay present on the

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<v Speaker 2>foliage basically from you know, mid to late spring, all

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<v Speaker 2>the way until full when the plant then starts to

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<v Speaker 2>turn red and yellow. And you know, the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 2>to me about this plant, or one of the many things,

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<v Speaker 2>is that it's a very vivid and very eye catching

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<v Speaker 2>gold yellow. But it's not unnatural looking, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think so you know, I think sometimes people want

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<v Speaker 2>a really colorful landscape, and there's a lot of plants

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<v Speaker 2>out there with colors that were maybe not really used

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<v Speaker 2>to seeing in nature where we live or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 2>this has all of that pizazz and eye catching, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>dazzling kind of look, but not in a way that's

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<v Speaker 2>like garish or gaudy, like it's getting all your attention.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really bright, it's very interesting and pretty in the landscape,

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<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't feel out of place, like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you're trying to like scream, it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to, you know, give a sassy winking something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So, like I said, we call it an

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<v Speaker 2>ornamental blueberry because it was selected again for these ornamental characteristics,

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<v Speaker 2>not edible characteristics. And when you're going for a blueberry

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<v Speaker 2>that you want to produce fruit, you're saying, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>does this produce earlier late? Are the are the fruits large,

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<v Speaker 2>are they smaller? They juicy? Or are they tasty? You're looking

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<v Speaker 2>for the qualities of edibility. Now, this does produce fruit,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fruits are perfectly delicious, but that was not

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<v Speaker 2>our primary selection criteria. That's what makes it a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different than other blueberries. But if you already have blueberries,

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<v Speaker 2>you can certainly add this for some pizaz in your

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<v Speaker 2>blueberry planting or in your landscape, and other blueberries will

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<v Speaker 2>pollinate it and you'll get fruit. So it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like an added bonus. So for this plant, you should

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<v Speaker 2>really think about the fruit. That is the main reason,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're growing it, but kind of as a little

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<v Speaker 2>added bonus there if you want to have it or

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<v Speaker 2>leave it to the animals or whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 2>do with it, always a benefit.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do we need lots of sunshine and drainage for

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<v Speaker 1>this like we do with blueberries here in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So everything that you would normally need for properly

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<v Speaker 2>sighting a blueberry plant is going to be equally true

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<v Speaker 2>for skyd gold. Okay, you're going to want acidic soil.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, this is non negotiable. And a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, do think of blueberries as high maintenance plants.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to get to pruiting in just a second,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think, as with everything in the garden, people

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<v Speaker 2>tend to think of things as high maintenance when they

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<v Speaker 2>are not sighted properly and therefore need a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>attention to do what you want them to do. But

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<v Speaker 2>with skyde gold blueberry or any other kind of blueberry,

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<v Speaker 2>if you plant it in full sun, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>cold tolerant down to usdas on four, heat tolerant through

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<v Speaker 2>USDA Zone eight, so the warmer your climate, the more

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<v Speaker 2>shade it can take. But if you're down there in

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<v Speaker 2>zone four five, definitely gonna want full sun for this

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<v Speaker 2>for the best color, best fall color, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>best flowering and fruiting if you do want some of

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<v Speaker 2>those fruits. Acidic soil, well drained soil, super crucial. Blueberries

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<v Speaker 2>don't really like wet so they can take moist soil,

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't want like the soggy soil that can

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<v Speaker 2>lead to all sorts of issues for them. And the

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<v Speaker 2>great thing, because this is an ornamental blueberry and not

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<v Speaker 2>a production blueberry, you don't have to worry about pruning

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<v Speaker 2>at all, you know, overall, if you're trying to grow

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<v Speaker 2>blueberries for backyard fruit production, you do need to be

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<v Speaker 2>quite careful with the pruning. You need to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>remove the oldest growth, make sure that it has lots

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<v Speaker 2>of young, healthy growth for the best flowering and fruiting.

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<v Speaker 2>Timing is really crucial. It's a lot to remember. Whereas

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<v Speaker 2>with skydew gold, you don't have to prune it at

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<v Speaker 2>all if you don't want to. In fact, it reaches

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<v Speaker 2>just two to four feet tall and three to four

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<v Speaker 2>feet wide, so it's really the perfect size for home

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<v Speaker 2>landscaping and you won't need to prune it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for any reason at all, if you don't want to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like the plant for me, no work, easy

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<v Speaker 1>to grow, and giving you a sassy wink.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do want a sassy wink in your landscape,

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<v Speaker 2>then yes, this would definitely be a good choice. So overall,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, blueberries are not the most deer resisted, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not highest up on the list of plants that deer

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<v Speaker 2>want to eat, but they will eat them, and they

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<v Speaker 2>will particularly eat the young growth in spring, which is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be where all those flowers are. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be soft. They tend to eat it in spring

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<v Speaker 2>because of course, you know, they're hungry. They've kind of

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<v Speaker 2>exhausted the food supplies out in natural areas. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you do have deer, I would definitely protect this plant

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<v Speaker 2>with maybe a repellent or some netting, especially for its

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of years, and then you know, you should

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<v Speaker 2>be okay overall, people don't, you know, Like the blueberry

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<v Speaker 2>growers around here, there's plenty of deer and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>usually have to worry about them. So the woodier and

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<v Speaker 2>more mature they get, the less appealing they are too deer.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's something you're definitely going to want to protect

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<v Speaker 2>for at least the first couple of seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bet. On the positive side, the birds love them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because there's the blueberry flowers serve all sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of different pollinators, so this is just one of those plants.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit different, kind of like a yellow

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<v Speaker 2>petunia in that regard, and again just a great way

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<v Speaker 2>to bring color like nothing else to your garden and

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<v Speaker 2>that great three season interest. So lots going for it

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<v Speaker 2>if you're interested. Of course, you can see photos of

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<v Speaker 2>it in our YouTube version or on Instagram or on

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<v Speaker 2>our show notes at Gardening Simplified on air dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>You can also find a retailer to look for it

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<v Speaker 2>this season and add it to your garden. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a little break. When we come back, we're

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<v Speaker 2>opening up the garden mail bags, so please stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>At Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs, we know that a

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<v Speaker 2>Color Choice dot com. Greetings gardening friends, and welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Gardening Simplified Show. We are your headquarters for

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<v Speaker 2>answering garden questions and apparently Sassy winks so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where that came from, but it is new to

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<v Speaker 2>the to the Gardening it Simplified canon here. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that we really love to do

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<v Speaker 2>to help simplify gardening for you is to answer garden questions.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I said before, even though it is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the off season, you're probably starting to think about

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<v Speaker 2>things that are going wrong. And this week we actually

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<v Speaker 2>have a couple of questions about house plants as well,

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<v Speaker 2>which is also something that we even though it's not

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<v Speaker 2>maybe technically gardening, it's gardening like so you can go

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<v Speaker 2>to Gardening Simplified on air dot com and ask us

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<v Speaker 2>your questions there. But before we get to the questions

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<v Speaker 2>we did, you have a couple comments that I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to share listener Jackie, since today is the annual of

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<v Speaker 2>the year show, She writes to us, I love all

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<v Speaker 2>capital letters. My super beina. So superbinas are a proven

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<v Speaker 2>winners annual like super Tunia, but they are verbina. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you let do you grow verbina?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yes? And I love it. And I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what the super beinas the fact that they are mildew resistant,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was years ago that was the big problem

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<v Speaker 1>with verbina was mildew. And they're they're vigorous and they're

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<v Speaker 1>mildew reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that must be why Jackie loves them. She says,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll always have it in my garden, and all the

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<v Speaker 2>pollinators love it too. They're almost always filled with butterflies

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<v Speaker 2>and the hummingbird moths visit regularly. Hummingbird moths. Who doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want hummingbird moss in the garden they're the best. So

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<v Speaker 2>she sends some pictures of her super beinas for some

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<v Speaker 2>inspiration in the super line of improved Proven Winners annuals.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you check us out on YouTube or at

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<v Speaker 2>Gardeningsimplified on air dot com to take a look at

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<v Speaker 2>those Stacy.

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<v Speaker 1>We also got an interesting comment from listener Tom hardiness

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<v Speaker 1>zone is great, but with the environmental changes occurring today,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel a strong need for heat zone information on

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<v Speaker 1>plants as well. I have had too many plants rated

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<v Speaker 1>for my zone failed due to their intolerance to my

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<v Speaker 1>heat conditions. I won't purchase a new plant without heat

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<v Speaker 1>zone information or a recommendation and Stacey. Back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven, the American Horticultural Society created a heartiness zone

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<v Speaker 1>for heat and as I understand it, a heat day

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<v Speaker 1>is over eighty six degrees fahrenheit or thirty degrees celsius.

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<v Speaker 1>So in zone one you would have no heat days.

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<v Speaker 1>In zone twelve could as many as two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ten or more.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a lot of hot days. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of So the AHS system heat zone system is a

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<v Speaker 2>great or I should say was a great system, but

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately they have pulled it from their website, and when

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<v Speaker 2>I reached out to them to ask them why, because

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<v Speaker 2>we were including AHS heat zone information on all of

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<v Speaker 2>our tags and all of our websites and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're like, hey, we can't really send people to

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<v Speaker 2>your website and say here's your AAHS find your AHS

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<v Speaker 2>heat zone when there's no map anymore. And they said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the data that we have was two out

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<v Speaker 2>of date. We can't stand behind this system anymore. Because

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<v Speaker 2>of course the more you know, everybody was freaking out

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago about the USDA Heardiness Zone map and

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<v Speaker 2>that being changed based on a better, more accurate data set,

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<v Speaker 2>so they didn't have the funding or the data to

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<v Speaker 2>continue supporting the heat zone system. And you know what

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<v Speaker 2>Tom is saying here, I think is really so crucial

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<v Speaker 2>to so many gardeners, whether you live in a hot

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<v Speaker 2>climate or you live in a cold climate, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of people who, especially in the center of the country,

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<v Speaker 2>live in what would be considered a cold climate but

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<v Speaker 2>have extremely hot summers, and you really need a plant

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<v Speaker 2>that can tolerate both of those things. So Tom, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel your pain, even though I don't live in a

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<v Speaker 2>hot climate. I understand how valuable this information is to people,

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<v Speaker 2>and I totally understand that the heartiness own system has

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of shortcomings, particularly for people who live in

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<v Speaker 2>hot climates. Unfortunately, at present, there is not really a

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<v Speaker 2>better solution. I have a lot of people on our

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<v Speaker 2>team here at Perfuminter's Color Choice Shrubs looking for opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>to fund research or to fund data so that we

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<v Speaker 2>can continue to offer this service. So I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>add this just in case anybody's out there listening to

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<v Speaker 2>the show and wants to get in touch. You can

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<v Speaker 2>go to Gardening Simplified on air dot com and let's

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<v Speaker 2>see how we can work together to give the hot

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<v Speaker 2>climate gardeners a little bit more reliable information to pick

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<v Speaker 2>their plants.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fantastic. May As I have soil that was

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<v Speaker 1>used in a pot for two years now the plant

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<v Speaker 1>has gone. I want to know if I should keep

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<v Speaker 1>reducing the soil for new plants. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>broken up roots and in parts of the soil the

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<v Speaker 1>soil is a light brown color instead of a darker black.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I just add organic matter to a mend it?

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<v Speaker 1>Not sure if the root bits are a problem oh, Stacey,

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<v Speaker 1>the old potting soil and sticker shock. When you go

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<v Speaker 1>to a garden center and see exactly how expensive potting

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<v Speaker 1>soil is and I've got how many pots.

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<v Speaker 2>To fill, I feel you. Yeah, So, as I think

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about on the show, I am a big,

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<v Speaker 2>big believer in reusing your potting soil a great and

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<v Speaker 2>particularly for houseplants, it can be a little bit easier

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<v Speaker 2>than if you're dealing with the scale of outdoor containers.

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<v Speaker 2>As I've said before, I just use those great big

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<v Speaker 2>plastic storage bins that you get at Costco or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>with the yellow tops and nice. Those two of those

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<v Speaker 2>will still all of my soil that I use in

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<v Speaker 2>my containers. I do mix it up with some nice

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<v Speaker 2>composts to recharge it and get some organic matter back,

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<v Speaker 2>because asme has noted, when that organic matter starts to

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<v Speaker 2>go away, it's going to become more of just like

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<v Speaker 2>in peat, muss is in organic matter as well, but

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the other like more water attentive, high

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<v Speaker 2>nutrition kind of stuff that they put in there, like

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<v Speaker 2>leaf mold. There's all sorts of different things depending on

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<v Speaker 2>the soil mix that you're buying. Yeah, I would just

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<v Speaker 2>mix that in by hand and use it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>worry about roots in my potting mix at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Same here, I mean I pull out some of the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger roots from year to year. If we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>outside containers, but leaving some of the roots in. I

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<v Speaker 1>view it as organic matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I do too, Okay, all right, And you know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people when I've talked about this at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>talks or whatever that I've given in various places, I've

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<v Speaker 2>said like, well, don't you worry about disease or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that, And the answer to that is no, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually don't worry about disease because most root diseases are

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<v Speaker 2>are actually going to be problematic in wet conditions. If

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<v Speaker 2>the soil is well drained and it's not staying super wet,

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<v Speaker 2>you really don't have very much to worry about.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, if you are an orchid grower or you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing something that's like, you know, really high value, that

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<v Speaker 2>might be a different story. But I would say for

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<v Speaker 2>the average home gardener, you have nothing to be concerned about,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you are concerned, you don't get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>some of it. But yeah, I definitely believe in keeping

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<v Speaker 2>your potting soil, treating it like a resource and an investment,

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<v Speaker 2>and getting all the life you can out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I do the same in here in Michigan. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an organic matter amendment called dairy dow d ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I work a little bit of that into the

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<v Speaker 1>old soil too, so I don't empty those pots. Stacey,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a green thumb from pinching pennies.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, well, Patina on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, I'm trying to give you a it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a snarky wink. What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>A sassy wink?

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<v Speaker 1>A sassy wink? There we go. I was thinking snarky wink.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's those two.

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<v Speaker 1>We can add that one too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's for different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Fey has a question about a popular houseplant. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to know how to cut a corn plant off, grow

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<v Speaker 1>new roots, and replant in fresh soil. It's now hitting

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<v Speaker 1>a nine foot ceiling. Yeah, Dressina will do that. They

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<v Speaker 1>call them mass canes, if you're keeping score at home

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<v Speaker 1>in the industry. And what they do, Stacey, is they

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<v Speaker 1>cut canes into various links and root them in pots,

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<v Speaker 1>and these Drosina mass canes will grow from it and

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<v Speaker 1>the plant is pretty tough and aggressive and eventually can yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bump the ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>It can easily get to be nine feet in time

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<v Speaker 2>and with good care and if it's happy. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just to be clear, she says, corn plants, but we

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<v Speaker 2>are not talking about the corn that you eat or

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<v Speaker 2>corn syrup. It is actually a dressina, very popular houseplant,

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<v Speaker 2>and there are different types of drosina as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>usually the one that is considered cornplant has the foliage

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<v Speaker 2>growing all up it, but then sometimes as it gets older,

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<v Speaker 2>that foliage will drop. So there's a lot of different

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<v Speaker 2>forms of dressina that you can get. But for the

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<v Speaker 2>corn plant, you can easily cut off portions of it

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<v Speaker 2>and root them. So what you're gonna want to do

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<v Speaker 2>is don't pay, don't take too big of a section.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have too big of a section, that's too

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<v Speaker 2>much roots or that's too much foliage for it to

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<v Speaker 2>try to grow roots to compensate for. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say probably, you know, something like maybe eight

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<v Speaker 2>to ten inches long or thereabout.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking growth, the green growth, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, not so not the the bare canes where you

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<v Speaker 2>have the green growth. I would say aim for eight

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<v Speaker 2>to ten inches A little bit more it is fine,

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<v Speaker 2>and then peel off the leaves so that you're exposing

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<v Speaker 2>a white base. You'll see that as soon as you

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<v Speaker 2>start to peel those leaves off. And then if you want,

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<v Speaker 2>you can put some rooting hormone on there. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to, but if you happen to have some laying around,

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<v Speaker 2>put some rooting harmone. Put it in a pot with

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<v Speaker 2>some nice potting soil that is moist. You might want

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<v Speaker 2>to put a nice big bag around that to build

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<v Speaker 2>up some humidity. Just make sure that the foliage doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>touch the bag, and I would say in a good

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<v Speaker 2>six to ten weeks that thing is going to have

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<v Speaker 2>roots and be on its way to eventually reaching a

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<v Speaker 2>nine foot tall plant itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've seen people take the procedure that you just

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<v Speaker 1>outlined and even rooted them in a glass of water.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to do it that way, but you

624
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<v Speaker 1>could produce roots that way too, And that's the foliage

625
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<v Speaker 1>that's growing, the healthy foliage that's growing in the upper

626
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<v Speaker 1>part of the plant. Now. I have seen people root

627
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<v Speaker 1>the canes also. That's a lot tougher. And you know,

628
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<v Speaker 1>from time to time in the garden center industry, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>see some plants shipped in that where the cane was

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<v Speaker 1>put into soil and had not rooted yet and it

631
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<v Speaker 1>falls out. So the method Stacey's outlining is probably the

632
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<v Speaker 1>best way for you to go.

633
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<v Speaker 2>And if your plant has multiple you know it has

634
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<v Speaker 2>a long area of living, healthy green foliage, you can

635
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<v Speaker 2>do that as many times as you want, so it

636
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<v Speaker 2>isn't just the topmost growth that you need to take.

637
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<v Speaker 2>You can you can do multiple as long as it

638
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<v Speaker 2>has some green growth. Because again, as Rick said, they're

639
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<v Speaker 2>not woody plants, but when you have that kind of quirkier,

640
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<v Speaker 2>woodier growth, it just doesn't root as easily or as well.

641
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<v Speaker 2>And everywhere that you cut it back to eventually with

642
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<v Speaker 2>TLC will sprout a new corn sprout exactly and start

643
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<v Speaker 2>growing as well. So if you have a nine foot

644
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<v Speaker 2>tall corn plant, fay, you have the potential to have many,

645
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<v Speaker 2>many more.

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<v Speaker 1>If you so choose, share with friends and nap.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, we're going to take a little break in when

648
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<v Speaker 2>we come back. We are thrilled to have a guest

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show today for branching

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<v Speaker 1>news and interview with Noah Dear o'hanian. He is the

657
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<v Speaker 1>director of product management with Proven Winners and I think

658
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<v Speaker 1>probably just as excited as we are for planting some

659
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>flowering annuals this spring and for spring to arrive. Noah,

660
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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us on the Gardening Simplified Show.

661
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it.

662
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<v Speaker 1>Noah, I want to get a comment from you. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, Right, off the top annual of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>So the chosen annual is Supertunia Mini Vista Yellow Petunia.

665
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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really excited about that as the annual of the year,

667
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:57.840
<v Speaker 3>primarily because of the benefit that the customer is going

668
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.119
<v Speaker 3>to receive as a Proven Winner product. You're going to

669
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<v Speaker 3>get that long blooming heat tolerant. But the biggest thing

670
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.639
<v Speaker 3>I think for me is the not having the deadhead,

671
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, as a as a customer, having that product

672
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 3>on your bench or even having it into your garden

673
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.840
<v Speaker 3>and being able to see those vibrant flowers all season

674
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 3>long is important. And not having to do as much maintenance,

675
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<v Speaker 3>I think is a big factor.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know Stacy's happy she's getting the color yellow

677
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<v Speaker 1>in her landscape this year. She loves yellow.

678
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I do love yellow, and I was I was saying

679
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<v Speaker 2>in the first segment when we were talking about the

680
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 2>annuals of the year that yellow petunias seem to be

681
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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a new on the scene color for petunias.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's definitely going to be It's going to make

683
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:42.880
<v Speaker 3>the garden top for sure. I think it's just gonna

684
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 3>I think it's gonna bring out a lot of other

685
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 3>beautiful colors in the garden as a nice compliment.

686
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<v Speaker 2>And it just seems like for years there was you know, pink,

687
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:54.880
<v Speaker 2>there was white, there was purple, and it didn't really

688
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<v Speaker 2>go into kind of more of the hot color range.

689
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<v Speaker 2>But I know that you guys have been doing a

690
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<v Speaker 2>lot withyellow petunias. Is there some sort of color barrier

691
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 2>that's been crossed there something that allows yellow petunias, So.

692
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<v Speaker 3>Obviously there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes

693
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 3>with proven winners and the genetics. And I think the

694
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<v Speaker 3>biggest factor of the yellow is the fact that it

695
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:17.760
<v Speaker 3>holds that color. A lot of other petunities on the

696
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:19.920
<v Speaker 3>market that are yellow will dull over time.

697
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<v Speaker 4>No one wants a sad yellow, So I feel that

698
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<v Speaker 4>it's exciting kalladium of the year, Heart to heart, blushing

699
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<v Speaker 4>bride kalladium You're feeling on kalladiums, Noah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they are a great centerpiece for containers.

701
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.119
<v Speaker 3>But I think what's really key, and I think a

702
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:41.320
<v Speaker 3>lot of folks can use, is they also make a

703
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:45.119
<v Speaker 3>decent houseplant. There are very adaptable as a houseplant. I

704
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 3>think that kind of goes untalked about, but I think

705
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.360
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be making a trend here, So something

706
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:51.119
<v Speaker 3>to keep in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>So if people want to so say they buy heartheart

708
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:59.239
<v Speaker 2>kalladiums for the outdoors in the in the spring or

709
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.119
<v Speaker 2>summer for you know, outdoor annuals, and they want to

710
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<v Speaker 2>bring them indoors. A lot of people, I think, know

711
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:10.239
<v Speaker 2>that kaladiums are a bulbicorm like growth. So should they

712
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 2>let them go dormant and then replant them or should

713
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 2>they bring them inside and try to continue growing them

714
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:15.760
<v Speaker 2>as a green plant.

715
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:18.800
<v Speaker 3>I think as a hobbyist the fun thing to do

716
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:21.119
<v Speaker 3>and try to bring it out of the cold before

717
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.960
<v Speaker 3>it went dormant and got it inside ideally to keep

718
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 3>that color going.

719
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if they're still doing great around the holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that Heart to Heart has been doing a

721
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<v Speaker 2>lot of work on kaladiums for Christmas. So if you

722
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 2>can keep it going at least till.

723
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<v Speaker 3>Then yeah, Christmas kaladiums. I mean, it's definitely it would

724
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 3>work well with the point SETI a market. You know,

725
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.639
<v Speaker 3>bringing that color inside doesn't necessarily have to be a flower,

726
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:48.119
<v Speaker 3>can be foliage as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, so many new fantastic annuals coming out this year. Noah,

728
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about space Age rex begonias. People love colorful

729
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:03.559
<v Speaker 1>foliage and space Age rexonas Wow. That's quite a plant.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh my goodness. Yeah, I'm very excited about this one.

731
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.920
<v Speaker 3>The size of the foliage, the color palette again, even

732
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.800
<v Speaker 3>one that could be brought indoors. It's one of those

733
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 3>really nice large foliage with its purples and some of

734
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<v Speaker 3>the greens. There are three different varieties of the space

735
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<v Speaker 3>Age you have Triton Europa as well as Black Hole,

736
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:28.039
<v Speaker 3>and they all bring their own individual personality, but all

737
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 3>kind of work the same with their vigor and in

738
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:31.639
<v Speaker 3>their folio size.

739
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<v Speaker 1>What a great plant. I've been talking to Kevin Hurd

740
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:40.280
<v Speaker 1>with Proven Winners about Aero Magica Purple Heliotrope. He's really

741
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:45.199
<v Speaker 1>excited about this plant because of the branching, and he says,

742
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.599
<v Speaker 1>as far as the flowers are concerned, they bury their dead,

743
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 1>so it's more of a maintenance free plant. And who

744
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 1>doesn't love the fragrance of a heliotrope. I think there's

745
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people excited about Aero Magica. Noah, Yeah, I.

746
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.159
<v Speaker 3>Definitely agree with Kevin. I know, we've gone on several

747
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.440
<v Speaker 3>trips together, Kevin and I, and he's mentioned how excited

748
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.159
<v Speaker 3>he is about the heliotropium being one of the newest

749
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:14.000
<v Speaker 3>additions to the Proven Winner's line, and he does have

750
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:17.239
<v Speaker 3>an extensive background in genetics, which is really awesome to

751
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:21.559
<v Speaker 3>travel with him. But I definitely agree with him. The aroma,

752
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.800
<v Speaker 3>the fact that it does bury the dead flowers, that

753
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:26.480
<v Speaker 3>the huge wings, and you.

754
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<v Speaker 2>Know, I think heliotrope is one of those plants that

755
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.599
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't even know because it was

756
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>considered such an old fashioned kind of flower, kind of

757
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.360
<v Speaker 2>an out of favor because of the dead heading and

758
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 2>just not great plants overall, and a lot of this

759
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:44.719
<v Speaker 2>breeding I think brings the potential for this plant to

760
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.880
<v Speaker 2>a whole new audience. And you know, for those of

761
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:49.760
<v Speaker 2>who were wondering what the magic in the aer magica is,

762
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 2>they smell like vanilla. They have this just delightful, beautiful

763
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 2>vanilla smell. And of course, Heliotrope, the plant is itself

764
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.159
<v Speaker 2>another name for purple so bowl and vanilla. I mean,

765
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 2>sign me up.

766
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:03.519
<v Speaker 1>It.

767
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:07.519
<v Speaker 3>Also, it's interesting you can it grows in the Grande

768
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 3>absolutely beautifully containers, window boxes, recipes, monoculture's landscape. I mean,

769
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:17.239
<v Speaker 3>this plant has it all. So it's a great addition.

770
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<v Speaker 1>If you want to talk about the history and old

771
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 1>fashioned plants. For me, Heliotrope, I in the heat of summer,

772
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:26.559
<v Speaker 1>I smell a fresh baked cherry pie.

773
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:30.159
<v Speaker 2>I can see that too kind of fragrance.

774
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Does anybody bake pies and put them on the window

775
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 1>sill in summer anymore? Maybe they do, But that's what.

776
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:41.119
<v Speaker 3>I too many people floating around exactly exactly.

777
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what I mentioned earlier in the show

778
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and Noah that I was a big fan of Scavola

779
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:54.320
<v Speaker 1>before it became popular, and now as opposed to the

780
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>fan shape or hand shaped flowers, you come out with

781
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<v Speaker 1>Star Diva. Wow, what a plan it.

782
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so very excited about the start Eva. I am

783
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:10.280
<v Speaker 3>also a huge Scavla fan. I think the nice thing

784
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.480
<v Speaker 3>for me about Scavola is when you give it to

785
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 3>somebody who may must not necessarily be an avid horticulturalist,

786
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 3>they can let it dry down a little bit and

787
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 3>it pops right back the Star Diva. I mean, the

788
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:22.960
<v Speaker 3>nice thing about it is it just packs a huge

789
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.039
<v Speaker 3>flower punch. It's going to be used separately than the

790
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 3>WorldWind would be used worldwhend you're going to find in

791
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 3>the baskets. The Star Eva is going to kind of

792
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:37.119
<v Speaker 3>be a standalone maybe in containers. It doesn't pack is

793
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 3>big of a fill as the WorldWind, so it does

794
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:42.119
<v Speaker 3>have its place in the market. It's nice to have

795
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:46.599
<v Speaker 3>a complimentary pair to the Whirlwind in its own right,

796
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:47.039
<v Speaker 3>you know.

797
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I like when I'm designing my containers, which I pretty

798
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 2>much do on the spot. It's not like I go

799
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 2>to the garden center with a grand plan in mind.

800
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of just grabbing whatever, whatever looks cool. You

801
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:58.840
<v Speaker 2>know a lot of times I thought, oh, I would

802
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:01.440
<v Speaker 2>love like the color the form of a scavola, but

803
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't need a trailer. And it's so

804
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:06.400
<v Speaker 2>cool when you have, you know, that same kind of

805
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.559
<v Speaker 2>look and that same durability and everything, but in a

806
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:11.639
<v Speaker 2>different habit. It's a great way to kind of do

807
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:14.760
<v Speaker 2>a theme in variation, create some cohesion in the garden

808
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:18.119
<v Speaker 2>without just being overly unnecessarily repetitive.

809
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:21.519
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. Yes, I like how you put that, for sure.

810
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And if you're thinking about growing scavola in your yard,

811
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>if you have a really hot situation or hot sun, boy,

812
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:34.159
<v Speaker 1>this is the plant for you. It really performs. Okay Kufia,

813
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Am I pronouncing that right? First of all, I think

814
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you are.

815
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, see what.

816
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:44.519
<v Speaker 1>So it was Stacey who got me really going on vermillionaire.

817
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:48.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've dabbled in it before, but vermillionaire, I

818
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:51.639
<v Speaker 1>love that plant was gorgeous in my garden this year.

819
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:56.519
<v Speaker 1>And then you come out with totally tempted kufias, which

820
00:42:56.519 --> 00:43:01.280
<v Speaker 1>are procumbents. So I'm thinking the plant being a procumbents.

821
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.639
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a more of a trailer or it lies,

822
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:10.119
<v Speaker 1>it's shorter. Tell us about these new Kufias that are

823
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:11.199
<v Speaker 1>introduced this year.

824
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Sure so so some people pronounced it pronounced cufia cfia.

825
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:20.280
<v Speaker 3>I think either way okay correct. But the nice thing

826
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 3>about this is it just kind of expands our list

827
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 3>of heat tolerant annuals. For sure, it's floriferous. You're still

828
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:30.159
<v Speaker 3>going to get your pollinators coming in, which is awesome,

829
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 3>as well as it's just a little bit more of

830
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:34.360
<v Speaker 3>a refined habit and so you're not going to like

831
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 3>you said, it's it's the pro commings. It's not going

832
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:38.960
<v Speaker 3>to be that standing tall. It's going to be much

833
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 3>round or more mounded, and in still packs that that

834
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:45.440
<v Speaker 3>that flower, that flower punch that we love in cufia

835
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:46.000
<v Speaker 3>for sure.

836
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Now what I did get samples of this last year,

837
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:51.519
<v Speaker 2>and I grew it. I grew the red one because

838
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 2>the only thing I like better than yellow is red,

839
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:59.639
<v Speaker 2>and I absolutely the color was just stunning. Now I

840
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:03.000
<v Speaker 2>did it did get pollinator so not the hummingbirds, like

841
00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:06.199
<v Speaker 2>totally tempted because it doesn't have those cigar shaped flowers

842
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:11.000
<v Speaker 2>that kind of characterize the Vermilionaire type, but just such

843
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:13.679
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful plant. And the color. It looks great with

844
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the vermilionaire because it still picks up with kind of

845
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.360
<v Speaker 2>that saturation that you see with that like little bit

846
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:21.639
<v Speaker 2>of purple. But the color on this plant, I've never

847
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 2>grown anything like it. I absolutely adored it.

848
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for people keeping score at home, we're talking about kufia,

849
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:34.519
<v Speaker 1>so it's cuph ea and then the totally tempted frosted

850
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:39.599
<v Speaker 1>violets and then richly red. There is also a vivid

851
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 1>violet and a totally tempted water melon wine. I think

852
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 1>these plants are going to be popular.

853
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Noah, I agree. I agree.

854
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Now, years ago in the garden center industry, I have

855
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:59.559
<v Speaker 1>memories of selling moss roses, the multi colored moss roses in.

856
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Trade cell packs, the old cell packs, the.

857
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Old cell packs, and a lot of people consider them

858
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 1>as an old fashion annual. But now we've got tangerine,

859
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>fusia and mango, the mojave, portia, lacas, these plants especially

860
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:21.079
<v Speaker 1>for hot sunny areas. Noah, I'm planning on growing some

861
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:22.480
<v Speaker 1>of these in my landscape this.

862
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Year, oh for sure. And don't just think of it

863
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:29.000
<v Speaker 3>as a landscape plant. The way that they work in hangars.

864
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I think is phenomenal growing for some other growers before

865
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 3>venturing into proven winters, A lot of hangars, the eight

866
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.199
<v Speaker 3>inch hangers would be loaded. We have loaded portolaca hangers

867
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:41.960
<v Speaker 3>and they were just phenomenal, phenomenal and would fly off

868
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:44.360
<v Speaker 3>the shelf. So don't think of it as just a

869
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 3>landscape plant. It does work well in a as a

870
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:51.360
<v Speaker 3>mono or a monocombo, two different colors mixed into a

871
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:52.079
<v Speaker 3>hanging basket.

872
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's very forgiving, so especially for people

873
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:59.679
<v Speaker 2>who want to grow in containers but travel or have

874
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.639
<v Speaker 2>really difficult conditions, it's such a great choice because it

875
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:07.079
<v Speaker 2>can really withstand some short term abuse without really suffering

876
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:10.400
<v Speaker 2>in the flower color at all.

877
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Agreed. And it's set so many new buds that they're

878
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.639
<v Speaker 3>always ready to emerge. So if you do lose some

879
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.519
<v Speaker 3>flowers water, if you come back from a vacation, like

880
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:22.440
<v Speaker 3>you said, a few days later, maybe a week later,

881
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 3>you'll have some new flowers emerging.

882
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Unplugged red salvia and white salvia. Tell

883
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>us about this plant. There's there's a great story behind

884
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:34.960
<v Speaker 1>this plant, and I think this is going to be

885
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>very popular in garden centers. This year.

886
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:40.599
<v Speaker 3>I agree as well. The salvia is a huge staple

887
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:45.000
<v Speaker 3>of our of our new new intros coming out. The flowers,

888
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:50.719
<v Speaker 3>the different colors that we're offering, larger blossoms, greater flower power,

889
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.599
<v Speaker 3>is just impulse appeal at the retail level. It's just

890
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:56.199
<v Speaker 3>gonna it's gonna be great for all all sorts of

891
00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:57.519
<v Speaker 3>consumers in the gardens.

892
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 1>And there's unplugged red and unplugged D white, correct, that

893
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>is correct.

894
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And again it's going to attract the pollinators, the beast,

895
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.880
<v Speaker 3>the butterfly, hummingbird. And but the nice thing is it

896
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Speaker 3>is deer resistance.

897
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, they didn't I had samples of this last

898
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.559
<v Speaker 2>year as well of unplugged red. They didn't touch it.

899
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:21.599
<v Speaker 2>And this thing, it was a blooming machine, like it

900
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:27.599
<v Speaker 2>just would not stop. And you know, the the flower clusters,

901
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the spikes, they kind of elongate, so the more the

902
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.639
<v Speaker 2>longer you have it, the longer they get. And by

903
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.039
<v Speaker 2>the end of the season it just looks like this wild.

904
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.039
<v Speaker 2>It kind of like gets back to that more like

905
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.639
<v Speaker 2>wild salvia. Yeah, and in the best way, you know,

906
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.440
<v Speaker 2>like I love that it kind of gets a little yeah,

907
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.079
<v Speaker 2>just a little while, a little rough around the edges.

908
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I like that nice nice Noah, I of course loved

909
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the supertunias, the performance of supertunias. You have one this year,

910
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Bermuda Beach. This is a a supertunia that I want

911
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.360
<v Speaker 1>to put in a container on my deck and then

912
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.280
<v Speaker 1>pull up my lawn chair with a nice little beverage

913
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:11.519
<v Speaker 1>and sit by it. What a cool color on that plant.

914
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:14.280
<v Speaker 3>For sure. What kind of beverage you think you would have?

915
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:20.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on over, We'll mix something up really good. Noah. Actually,

916
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.320
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, it would be a it

917
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:26.840
<v Speaker 1>would be a cilantro and cucumber. Martine, I know you were.

918
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Going to say that.

919
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.920
<v Speaker 3>So the supertunia Bermuda Beach, it has been within the

920
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:35.800
<v Speaker 3>proven winner's realm for a little bit. But this is

921
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.880
<v Speaker 3>an improvement. So when we do make improvements or release improvements,

922
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:41.719
<v Speaker 3>they are not big. They're not usually big improvements because

923
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 3>we know it's a tried and true crop that our

924
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.599
<v Speaker 3>customers absolutely adore. What we're trying to do is just

925
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.760
<v Speaker 3>pass on some of the benefits of some maybe newer

926
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:51.239
<v Speaker 3>things that are coming out. So maybe a little bit

927
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.559
<v Speaker 3>larger of a flower, maybe the color is gonna last

928
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.880
<v Speaker 3>a little bit longer. So as far as Bermuda Beach goes,

929
00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.920
<v Speaker 3>it's a medium coral pink flower bloom spring to fall

930
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.079
<v Speaker 3>of no dead heading. We all love not having the

931
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 3>dead head flowers. And again it's it's one of those

932
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 3>plants that you could just use window boxes, hanging baster recipes.

933
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 3>You could do whatever you want with this plant. It's indestructible.

934
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:12.199
<v Speaker 3>It's a great plan and it's a.

935
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.559
<v Speaker 2>Key element of one of perform Winner's best selling recipes

936
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 2>is that Bermuda Beach or Bermuda skuys with with this

937
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 2>and the and the little blue Labelia's in it.

938
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, correct, yeah.

939
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, always. You see that everywhere. I know when that

940
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:28.480
<v Speaker 2>was I know when that first came out of him,

941
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.480
<v Speaker 2>was like oh wow. And you know, here we are

942
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 2>at least ten years later, and I see it everywhere

943
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 2>I go every single season. People love that combination.

944
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Noah, before we let you go in, we're talking to

945
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Noah Dear o'hanian. He is the director of product management

946
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:48.880
<v Speaker 1>with Proven Winners, And Noah, I want to ask you

947
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>real quickly because when I'm in the garden center, I

948
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:57.159
<v Speaker 1>see people going crazy over angelonia. Angel face love that

949
00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:59.679
<v Speaker 1>plant and you have some improved varieties this year.

950
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:02.840
<v Speaker 3>That is that is correct. It's gonna be a very

951
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:06.559
<v Speaker 3>heat resisting variety. It actually it thrives.

952
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:06.559
<v Speaker 2>In the heat.

953
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:08.480
<v Speaker 3>So think of it as a plant that just thrives

954
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.519
<v Speaker 3>in the heat. So you get into a nice warm area,

955
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:13.519
<v Speaker 3>it's just going to perform like crazy for you. Just

956
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 3>make sure you obviously you give it the right amount

957
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 3>of water, but in a nice warm area, and they're

958
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:18.880
<v Speaker 3>gonna explode.

959
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:24.679
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic. Noah, as director of product management with proven winners,

960
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:28.280
<v Speaker 1>You're probably not allowed to have a favorite plant, is

961
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that correct? Or do you have a favorite?

962
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I do have. I was, you know, it's funny, before

963
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:36.159
<v Speaker 3>we have done this call, I was wondering if that

964
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.000
<v Speaker 3>question was going to come up. And I do have

965
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 3>a fit. I do have a favorite plant. And I

966
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.159
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it's if it's going to bode well

967
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.440
<v Speaker 3>with my colleagues, but I think that to double up.

968
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.199
<v Speaker 3>Pogonia for me is one of my favorite annuals really

969
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.039
<v Speaker 3>growing it. It is such an easy grow. You can

970
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.800
<v Speaker 3>pot it and and forget it and it just does

971
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:57.880
<v Speaker 3>its thing. It's a very easy product. And I just

972
00:50:57.960 --> 00:50:59.239
<v Speaker 3>absolutely adore that plant.

973
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I love that and you know, I see a real

974
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:04.719
<v Speaker 1>resurgence in begonias too. You know, it's a plant that

975
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 1>can handle some dry shade. People love bogonias, and to

976
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:15.519
<v Speaker 1>have these varieties of begonias available today certainly is a

977
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:18.159
<v Speaker 1>kick in the plant, so to speak, when we get

978
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 1>out there and start planting.

979
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Noa, yeah, yeah. Just so everyone knows the rexes are

980
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:27.639
<v Speaker 3>a this is called a foreshadow. I want to say

981
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:31.360
<v Speaker 3>that the rexes are just a nice starting point. There's

982
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 3>so many beautiful bogoonis out there for their foliage. Just

983
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.159
<v Speaker 3>keep an eye out from Proven Winners, and we hope

984
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.199
<v Speaker 3>to bring you some really awesome stuff.

985
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic. Noah, thank you so much for joining us on

986
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:46.519
<v Speaker 1>the Gardening Simplified Show. A pleasure to talk to you.

987
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:49.679
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for everything you do for Proven Winners and for

988
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the general public. Boy, we've got some great plants to

989
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:55.320
<v Speaker 1>look forward to this year.

990
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:58.159
<v Speaker 3>Yes, thank you for having me and I love sharing

991
00:51:58.159 --> 00:51:58.880
<v Speaker 3>all the information.

992
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks well. Gee.

993
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:02.519
<v Speaker 2>I said at the end of segment one that I

994
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:05.280
<v Speaker 2>was super excited for Garden Center shopping season. Now I'm

995
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Speaker 2>even more excited and it's still a couple months away,

996
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:10.960
<v Speaker 2>so I'm gonna have to figure out something else to

997
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:13.519
<v Speaker 2>do with all of that plant energy. I'm ready to

998
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:16.400
<v Speaker 2>go put it into seed shopping or something like that.

999
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:18.719
<v Speaker 2>So thanks so much Shanoah for sharing all of that

1000
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:21.719
<v Speaker 2>great information about the new PREVUM Winners Annuals for twenty

1001
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:25.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty five. Thank you, Rick, you, thank you Adriana, and

1002
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:27.360
<v Speaker 2>thanks so much to all of you for listening, watching,

1003
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:29.599
<v Speaker 2>and listening to us on podcasts. We really appreciate it

1004
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and hope you have a wonderful week ahead.
