WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.159 --> 00:00:02.759 It's night's time with Dan Ray. 2 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:06.120 I'm telling easy Bond video. 3 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:09.679 But we've talked a lot about politics for the last 4 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:11.880 few nights. We may get back to politics later on, 5 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:15.960 but tomorrow is Halloween, and of course with Halloween we 6 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:22.679 talk about some interesting spooky issues and some phenomenon and 7 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:26.519 I'm delighted to welcome to the program Rachel Person. She 8 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:33.119 is a realtor who deals often with antique homes, and 9 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:38.640 the question of what has happened in a home that's 10 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:43.280 been around a long time sometimes has an influence on 11 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:49.479 whether or not that home becomes more or less saleable. 12 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.880 By that, I mean that there are some homes where 13 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:56.960 if there's some legend of it being haunted, or if 14 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:00.719 indeed there has been some horrific event in the past 15 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:04.840 and people find out about it, Uh, it can make 16 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:09.640 that home less marketable. Rachel, I'm trying to explain it 17 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.280 as best I can. I just want to set it 18 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:16.560 up that way. Tell us about your real estate experience, 19 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:20.719 as I understand that you deal a lot with older homes, 20 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:24.560 and I'm sure that is part of the function of 21 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:29.359 that is where you actually conduct your business. You are 22 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:34.239 a realtor based in Newburyport, but you also sell homes 23 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:37.560 in Massachusetts and also in New Hampshire. Tell us a 24 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:42.159 little bit about who you who you who you deal with, 25 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:43.959 Who are the who are the folks that you're out 26 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.680 that that are looking for homes from through your office. 27 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:53.000 Thank you so much for having me. Yeah. So my mother, Yeah, 28 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:55.959 my mother and I are a mother daughter team. And 29 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:59.640 as you said, we're located in newberry Port. And my 30 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:01.640 mom has been in real estate for I don't know, 31 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:07.280 over thirty years, and her niche has always been historic properties. 32 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:11.319 I grew up in historic or antique properties with my 33 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:15.479 parents redoing many of them over the years, and she 34 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:18.000 kind of just found her way into that niche. And 35 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:20.960 then when I joined her about oh it's a little 36 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.159 over four years ago, so I'm going into my fifth 37 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:26.400 year here, I kind of fell into that as well. 38 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:32.840 We often sell historic luxury properties because I mean, you know, 39 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:37.840 Newburyport has a pretty dense concentration of historic and or 40 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:46.319 antique properties. We did sell the John Noy's House that 41 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.039 was built in sixteen forty six. 42 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:51.000 I think that's the oldest one we sold so far. 43 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:56.120 First period house yet. We sold one just this September 44 00:02:56.560 --> 00:03:01.919 in Newburyport that was built in sixteen eighty. So, yeah, 45 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:05.439 it's something that it's you know, it's just another day 46 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.879 at the office. I'm so used to it. But I 47 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:09.919 love them. I love the history behind them. 48 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:17.360 Now there are homes that have stories associated with them, Okay, 49 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:21.800 And I don't know if you believe in haunted homes 50 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:28.000 or not. Yeah, I'm just curious in your experience. And 51 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:31.960 we're going to get into the legalities that realtors what 52 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:35.879 they have to and do not have to, you know, 53 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:40.319 tell people about, But what is your experience? Are there 54 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:43.960 homes that that when you get them, you know that 55 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:47.879 there's a sort of a legend or a history that 56 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:51.439 that might make that home a home that some people 57 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:53.439 would would not be anxious to buy. 58 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:58.039 Well, I mean so many of the houses that we sell, 59 00:03:58.199 --> 00:03:59.919 like you know, if someone was to ask us to 60 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.280 someone died in the house, it's like, yeah, sure they 61 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:06.759 probably did. It was built in seventeen fifty. So, but 62 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:12.479 you know, in terms of like historically significant homes, we 63 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:15.800 don't see them that often. Obviously, the James Noys Houses 64 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:19.639 was is historically significant because he was involved in Salem 65 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:23.160 witch trials and was a first settler in Newbury, So 66 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:27.120 you know that's that's significant. But not any houses around 67 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:28.560 here that I can think of off the top of 68 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:33.000 my head that are known to be haunted. Now, have 69 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:37.079 I lived in the house I considers to maybe be haunted, Yes, 70 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:46.439 my parents experience. Yeah yeah, yeah, No, not real estate. 71 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:49.839 It's just my own own in my own personal life 72 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:52.759 because I've lived in so many old houses and just 73 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:56.959 weird stuff happens. Weird, weird stuff happens that you can't explain. 74 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:02.720 So yeah, we're talking there about what I think some 75 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:07.720 would describe as the paranormal correct, Yes, yeah, yeah, okay, 76 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:11.439 So yeah, so let's first of all deal with the 77 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:16.120 question of what wheeltors are obligated to disclose and what 78 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:19.160 they're not obligated to disclose. And I know that there 79 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:22.160 are some rules that you have to comply by, comply with, 80 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:28.120 so give us, give us the overview there of what 81 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:30.639 you are obligated to tell and what you are not 82 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:33.519 obligated to tell. Sure. 83 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.879 So, I'm licensed in both Massachusetts and Newmpshire, as you mentioned, 84 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:40.519 and they have vastly different rules about these things. Massachusetts 85 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:43.439 is what's called a buyer beware state, so it is 86 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:47.160 up to the buyer to ask the pertinent questions. The 87 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.240 only thing that I have to disclose or my sellar 88 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.600 needs to disclose is the presence of lead paint or 89 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:56.480 if the house is built prior to nineteen seventy eight. 90 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:58.519 If you know you have to sell out a lead 91 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:02.279 paint disclosure, You have to talk about whether or not 92 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:04.920 there is a septic system on the property, and you 93 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:08.519 have to get a title five done, and then you're 94 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:16.560 not allowed to lie if asked the direct question. So 95 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:19.800 if someone says to you sterial defect about something, yeah. 96 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:22.879 Yeah, so, but let's assume let's focus on the haunt. 97 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:27.519 Let's assume someone says to you, gee, this is an 98 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:32.639 old house. I love it for a lot of reasons, 99 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:37.920 but I sometimes get creeped out. Is there any suggestion 100 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:41.560 or do you have any knowledge that this house is haunted? 101 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:43.639 You're telling I think you told me earlier that in 102 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:48.199 that your your obligation might differ from state to state. Now, 103 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:51.040 you're licensed in two states, New Hampshire and Massachusetts. 104 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:54.879 Explained to us, Yeah, so in New Hampshire you do 105 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:59.199 have to disclose if there has been quote unquote paranormal activity. 106 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:02.120 I don't know what to finition of that is specifically 107 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:07.199 in Massachusetts, Apparently it's that some kind of psychological effect 108 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:09.800 has happened to whoever was living there. They had some 109 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.040 kind of psychological impact. I don't know if that's the 110 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:15.399 same in Hampshire, but it's apparently it's if the seller 111 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:19.759 tells you, yes, we've seen para normal activity, you do 112 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:25.360 have to disclose that to a buyer and hanswer. In Massachusetts, 113 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:30.279 it's not even that's not even in my purview. I 114 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:34.079 don't answer that question, you know, if someone died. On 115 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:36.519 the other hand, if someone asked me if someone died there, 116 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:38.639 then I and I do know for a fact I 117 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:41.759 need to answer that question. But a buyer has to 118 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:42.959 ask me specifically. 119 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:47.160 Okay, so does if the buyer says to you, gee, 120 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:51.959 I think that I read that someone might have been 121 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.519 killed here. Does the difference between someone dying of natural 122 00:07:55.600 --> 00:08:00.920 causes and someone dying Yeah, in a difference at a circumstances? 123 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:02.319 Does that change the question? 124 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:08.120 In Massachusetts it doesn't. It's still if it's a either 125 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:12.920 a haunted property, a death or a stigmatized property, which 126 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:17.519 means a significant event occurred there that could possibly devalue 127 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.920 the property. You don't have to disclose any of that. 128 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:22.759 It's up to the buyer to do the buyer's own 129 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:25.199 due diligence. Now, in the state of New Hampshire, on 130 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:28.759 the other hand, if there was a potentially like a 131 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:32.960 murder or something that made the news that everyone's. 132 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:33.000 Aware of. 133 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:37.480 That and then stay an out of sea fire came like, wow, 134 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:40.120 this is a beautiful farmhouse. Little do they know there 135 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:42.480 was you know, like a triple homicide there or something, 136 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:45.200 then you would need to disclose that. But in the 137 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:46.320 state of Massachusetts you. 138 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:49.759 Do not need to, Okay, So it differs from state 139 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:52.559 to state, and there's an affirmative obligation, more of an 140 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:57.159 affirmative obligation on you in New Hampshire than in Massachusetts. 141 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:00.360 In your experiences are real to how long often do 142 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:05.600 either or one of these questions you actually arise? Not often? 143 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:09.080 I assume right, no, not often, And I think that 144 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.799 most people who because there's the people that buy old 145 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:16.759 houses love old houses. You know, if you like newer 146 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.519 construction properties, they're not going to go and buy a 147 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.600 house from eighteen twenty five. It's just not something you're 148 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:24.200 going to want to do. So in order to buy 149 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:27.120 an older house. You're going to have to love older houses. 150 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:29.120 And a lot of the people that go to buy 151 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:31.960 these properties they know what they're getting Excuse me, they 152 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.919 know what they're getting into. Haven't had buyers ask me 153 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.360 as a buyer's agent before, like do you think anyone 154 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:38.039 died here? 155 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:38.720 Like? 156 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:43.000 Yeah, every once in a while, but it was never 157 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:44.399 really like a serious question. 158 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:49.519 Gotcha? Okay, Well, my guest is Rachael Person. Tomorrow's Halloween, 159 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:52.000 and we thought it might be an interesting idea to 160 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:55.960 talk about haunted homes or haunted houses, So if you 161 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:59.200 would like to join the conversation, if you've had an 162 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.159 experience with a haunted house. I had a friend of 163 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:04.519 mine who I mentioned, I think last night on the show, 164 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:06.840 who was convinced that the house that he grew up 165 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:11.600 in he saw a paranormal set of circumstances are he 166 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:17.559 thought a human like figure who disappeared? Which could you 167 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:20.320 could you know? I think you know spook someone out? 168 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:24.279 Feel free to call six one seven two thirty six 169 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:27.919 one seven, nine, three, ten thirty. Have you ever lived 170 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:32.200 in a home where you had been told hey, you 171 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:35.279 may you may not be alone here, your family may 172 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:39.080 not be alone here. Love to compare some notes here 173 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.039 with Rachel Person on night Side. This is just kind 174 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:44.639 of lightening up a little bit. We've had a lot 175 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:47.120 of serious conversations this week, and we'll get back to 176 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:49.799 some politics in the in the final hour tonight, but 177 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:51.720 I'd like to just lighten it up a little bit. 178 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:57.519 If you've ever looked at a home and was told, hey, 179 00:10:57.759 --> 00:11:02.080 here's something really bad happened, feel free to join the 180 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:04.960 conversation as well. We'll be back with Rachel Person some 181 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.000 phone calls, I hope right after this. 182 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:11.399 Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World 183 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:14.639 night Side Studios on WBZ the News Radio. 184 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:19.000 My guess is Rachel Person. She's a realtor based in Newburyport, 185 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:23.799 but sells homes and in both Northern Massachusetts, I assume 186 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:27.200 pretty much anywhere in Massachusetts and also New Hampshire. Licensed 187 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:30.480 in both states. Standards are a little bit different sounds 188 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:34.279 to me, Like in New Hampshire they acknowledge that, yeah, 189 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.200 there can be paranormal activity in a home, and if 190 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.200 you are asked about that again, the burden is upon 191 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.879 the buyer to ask you the question. As I understand that, 192 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:45.879 is that correct. 193 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:51.000 Rachel, Yeah, with almost everything when you buy a home 194 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:55.840 in Massachusetts, not just paranormal activity like anything, it's the 195 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:59.960 buyer's obligation or the buyer's agents to do their due diligence, 196 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:03.279 whether that be to check with city Hall to make 197 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:05.919 sure that there's no open permits and that the permits 198 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:10.600 have been closed to you know, if there's an easement, 199 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:13.559 or to review the documents. It's all on you as 200 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.240 the buyer and your buyer's agent. So it's important that 201 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:18.840 you have someone that knows what they're doing because if 202 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.879 you don't review those things and you miss something, then 203 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:25.639 you're kind of up up a stream with down a paddle, 204 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:26.279 you know what I mean. 205 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:28.559 Yep, No, I totally get what you mean. But it's 206 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:34.080 interesting because obviously there's a lot of information that will 207 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:39.519 be kept at somewhere in the official files, you know, 208 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:44.000 of something dealing with real estate transactions, obviously, registry of deeds, 209 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:49.279 et cetera. But the real question that I think people 210 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:54.000 might be interested and again, is this quote unquote paranormal 211 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:59.279 activity and there's no there's there's no play. You're never 212 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.840 going to find at a registry of deeds. Oh yeah, 213 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:05.559 there was peril normal activity in this home back in 214 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.200 the nineteen forties. So those of you who have ever 215 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:10.240 dealt with that, feel free to give us a call. 216 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:12.799 In the meantime, let us go north of the border 217 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:16.639 to Daryl in New Brunswick up in Canada and find 218 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.240 out what he would like to contribute to the conversation. Daryl, 219 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:19.879 welcome to nights. 220 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:23.919 I go right ahead, hey man, and welcome hello to 221 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:24.399 your guests. 222 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:26.600 I forgot her name, Rachel, Rachel Chel. 223 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:32.279 Hello. I actually have an old house, an old brick house, 224 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:39.759 basement six foot boulder foundation, two ten foot floors, old brick. 225 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.480 He was built in eighteen eighty nine and then a 226 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:48.240 third floor. I was told at one time this property 227 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:52.639 was used as a church and a hospital, and that 228 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.840 there could be certain burials in the basement. 229 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.200 Oh boy, and so. 230 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:06.759 It's again. All you do is it's all rumors, and 231 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:08.639 if need be, I can get it checked out with 232 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:11.159 the one of those ground penetrating things right. 233 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:15.559 Ironically, you know, I let me ask you this, when 234 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.840 you bought this this property, Daryl, we were you appraised 235 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:20.559 of this? Were you told that or have you learned 236 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:21.480 about it subsequently? 237 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.919 I really didn't care. The price was so good, but 238 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:26.879 at the same time. 239 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:28.919 Okay, that's fine. So you bought the you bought the house, 240 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:31.279 and so now what you're trying to figure out is 241 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.120 how can you find out which of these rumors are 242 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:36.759 true in which are not true? Correct? 243 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:37.879 Uh? 244 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:43.480 Correct your own question that that you're not going to 245 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:47.000 dig up your basement. I don't think I would, hope not. 246 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:50.279 Its floor a dirt floor. 247 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:53.080 Well, I don't know if you Okay, I don't know 248 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:56.200 how if you want if you think that they're they 249 00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:03.919 were the remains of individuals buried there, are you looking 250 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:05.399 at something you want to know? 251 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.440 Yeah, well this is a question. Would you actually have 252 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:12.399 to pass this on to information? 253 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:13.440 Uh? 254 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:15.799 But we were going with the haunted aspect as well. 255 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:18.919 Yeah, well, Darrel, let me try. Let me first of 256 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:22.600 all say this, Rachel is not licensed as a realtor 257 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:27.919 in New Brunswick, Canada. Knowing Canada as I know it, 258 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.240 I suspect that deal laws are probably a little more 259 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.399 stringent than ours. But that's just a guess. 260 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:36.320 Oh, I'm not looking I'm not looking to sell though. 261 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:39.440 It's just a question if you would have to let 262 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:40.519 people know if you knew. 263 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:46.200 I don't know that Rachel can answer that question. Canada. 264 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:51.000 Yeah, yeah, we're talking in your area, I guess. 265 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:55.799 Oh yeah, So if there were potential human remains on 266 00:15:55.919 --> 00:16:00.480 the property, that's a great question. I don't don't know 267 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.840 the answer to that, because you know, I mean, under 268 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.279 what I know about the laws, I don't. I don't 269 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:10.440 think so. But it could be considered some kind of 270 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:15.159 environmental issue. That's a that's an issue. 271 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:16.639 If that came up. 272 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:19.240 My first call would be to a real estate attorney 273 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:24.000 to ask them, because I've never had that question. 274 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:30.480 They as before, well, again, if it was in Massachusetts. 275 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:35.840 And you would say no, probably yeah, well no, if you. 276 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:41.440 Knew there were human remains buried under a dirt cellar floor. 277 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:46.440 It seems to me that if someone asked you, had 278 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:48.600 anyone died in this property? 279 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.399 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to tell. 280 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.519 Them that the circumstances that the death would be. I 281 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.519 think every one of these situations there would be a 282 00:16:57.559 --> 00:16:59.559 little different, is what I'm trying to get at. And 283 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.759 I would suspect that if you went to you must 284 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:08.480 have in Canada. I assume some uh, some real estate 285 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:11.000 lawyers or registries of deeds where you could go and 286 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:12.519 just inquire about that. 287 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:17.599 True, Yeah, true, I'm just going to talk to the 288 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:19.839 local people I know in the RCMP, and then they 289 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.319 can do a GP ground pending greater right. 290 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.720 Again, depending upon how long someone had been buried and 291 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:32.359 what condition they were buried in, it's conceivable that if 292 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:36.240 they were buried there two hundred years ago, everything you know, 293 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.880 you know, could could have turned to dust Thereyl. Well, 294 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:44.920 you know, I don't know enough about the r MCP 295 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.160 radar capacities, but yeah, that's that's a place that you 296 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:50.839 should start. Absolutely. Well. 297 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.240 Well, I'm not calling about the advice party. We're talking 298 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:57.799 about Halloween and the haunted part. Yeah, and so I 299 00:17:57.920 --> 00:17:59.000 was just calling in to help up. 300 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:01.920 Well, thank thank you very much. I appreciate it's interesting. 301 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:02.599 Interesting. 302 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:06.359 Did you know when you bought you when you you 303 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:09.119 told me that you didn't care when you bought the house. Uh, 304 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:12.400 and you subsequently learned that there might be bodies buried 305 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:14.559 and you have a dirt base. 306 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:18.880 Well, no, we're talking about possible being a hospital at 307 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:21.119 one time, possibly people that were still born. 308 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:27.160 Oh okay, yeah, okay, yeah, gotcha, gotcha. Okay, and wait, 309 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:28.279 thanks after I bought it. 310 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:31.880 Yeah, but I only paid twenty thousand dollars for the house, 311 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:32.640 so it's pretty much. 312 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:34.480 You still would you still would have bought it? Okay, 313 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.960 Thanks Dale, appreciate the call, interesting questions as always, Thank 314 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:40.799 you very much, Darryl. We got to take a quick break. Rachel. 315 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:43.839 You stay right there. We got Julie in Arlington, Mike 316 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:45.960 and Rossendale, John and Quincy. If you'd like to join 317 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:48.200 and ask a question or if you've had an experience 318 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:52.640 with either a real estate transaction or a haunted house 319 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:57.039 six one seven, two thirty six one seven, nine three 320 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:58.599 one ten thirty back after this. 321 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:05.119 You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio. 322 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:10.079 My guest is Rachel Person. She's a real realtor. What's 323 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:12.680 the difference between a realtor and a real estate agent? 324 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:18.000 Rachel being a member of the National Association of Realtors, 325 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:20.000 and we have a specific code ethics that we have 326 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:20.480 to follow. 327 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:24.200 Gotcha. Okay? I know that's kind of knew the answer 328 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.960 to that question, but I wanted to emphasize your status. 329 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:30.200 And we're talking about haunted home. So let's keep rolling 330 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.759 here and see what people have to contribute to the conversation. 331 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.000 We're going to go next to Julie and Arlington. Julie, 332 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:38.880 welcome to night side. You're on with Rachel Person. Go 333 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:39.680 right ahead, Julie. 334 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:42.480 Hi, Dan, nice talking with you. It's been a. 335 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:44.799 While, Yes it has, Julie. 336 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:45.359 Where have you hi? 337 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:51.839 Rachel? Hello? I have two really fascinating stories on this topic. 338 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:54.319 One was in the state of Massachusetts and one is 339 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:56.920 outside of the state of mass The one outside of 340 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.119 the state of mass I have a friend who is 341 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:04.119 so sensitive to the paranormal that if she travels in 342 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.319 Europe or anywhere, she cannot stay in one of these 343 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.960 older castles. She can't sleep all night. She's just one 344 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:16.079 of these magnets where anything floating around is going to 345 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:18.119 come to her keep her up all night. It's it's 346 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.119 it's fascinating because I never feel anything right, so I 347 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:25.559 would never understand it. But she's legit anyhow. 348 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:28.480 She do you, Julie, do you think she's more sensitive 349 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:32.160 to it or do you think she is just I 350 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:34.720 don't know. I hate to use the phrase of faking it. 351 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:40.240 Yeah, no, not faking it. If anything, she might be 352 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:43.680 vulnerable to it, and so she's more easily. 353 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:45.519 Entered. 354 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:49.880 You know again, this is will sounds so sci fi. Anyhow, 355 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:53.720 she bought a condo in a downtown area of an 356 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:58.599 upscale urban area, and I visited her and I slept 357 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:00.759 in her front room on the couch, and she was 358 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.480 in her bedroom and I had no problems. And she 359 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:07.160 confided to me that she says, I have difficulty sleeping 360 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:10.640 in that bedroom and I never felt the thing. So 361 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:14.400 she meets up with the previous owner, who happened to 362 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:18.200 be a Catholic priest at a benefit, and she said, father, 363 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:20.480 you know such and such happened and I feel this, 364 00:21:20.599 --> 00:21:24.599 and I said, and she said, his eyes opened with terror, 365 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:28.039 and he says, God be with you, know, God be 366 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:30.920 with you, my child, and he walked away. So and 367 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:36.720 he's lived in this something's up. And so then she 368 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:40.440 tells me she says she felt like this angry young 369 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:44.279 African American man jump on her in the middle of 370 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:46.440 the night and she's like, get off of me, and 371 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:49.200 he was angry. So she reaches out to the neighbor 372 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:52.640 across the hall and she says, with someone murdered here 373 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.160 or someone who killed her, I feel this angry. And 374 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:57.839 they said, oh, we didn't want to tell you, but yes, 375 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:00.920 there was a murder here and it was this young 376 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:04.480 African American. So she's so frightened. 377 00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:07.920 At this point, she a young African American, was the victim. 378 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:12.200 The victim, right, and so so she sells the home 379 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:16.720 and she she happened to be driving down the alley 380 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:20.200 one hot summer night and the people that bought it 381 00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:22.200 were sleeping out on their deck. 382 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:25.039 I don't know if it was because it was or. 383 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.680 Because they couldn't sleep in the bedroom. So so that 384 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:30.359 was just one really interest. 385 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.880 So she's convinced that the person who had been killed 386 00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:36.880 it was it sounds it was this a house or 387 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:37.319 a condo. 388 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:43.079 It was a condo murder instance in that bedroom. 389 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:46.480 In that and and that the spirit of the victim, 390 00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:52.599 the young African American male, yes, was there and somehow. 391 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:56.759 Maybe I don't know the story. As soon as she 392 00:22:56.920 --> 00:22:59.880 heard you know, yes there actually was a murder, but 393 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.079 we didn't want to tell you that, you know, because 394 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:03.480 you're the new Nate residence. 395 00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:05.519 What did she did she sell the house? Did she say? 396 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:06.720 Yeah? 397 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:13.680 The priest before her didn't Anita did she? So so 398 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:15.480 that was that, and I don't know what. 399 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:18.000 The laws were there. This was not in Massachusetts. 400 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:20.240 No, that was not in Massachusetts. 401 00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:20.720