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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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<v Speaker 1>this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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<v Speaker 1>something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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<v Speaker 1>quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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<v Speaker 1>To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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<v Speaker 1>just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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<v Speaker 1>So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers

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<v Speaker 1>as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates

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<v Speaker 1>about his medical journey, please go to the caring Bridge

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<v Speaker 1>link in the show notes. Thank you, I pick the Society.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the privilege of talking to mister super Dave

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<v Speaker 1>aka Sasquatch. It's the individual that I have been wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to get on the show. As we just were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on the list, but the list is long and

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<v Speaker 1>he actually reached out as well, so hey worked out

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<v Speaker 1>for the best. So a few things about yourself, super Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been having encounters for over fifty two years now

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<v Speaker 1>and sharing them is part of this next road in

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<v Speaker 1>life that God has you on, which is pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So welcome to the show, sir. How are you doing today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well, doing well. I appreciate you having us

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<v Speaker 2>on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, It's always always a good day when we were

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<v Speaker 1>able to talk to someone about Bigfoot and how it's

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<v Speaker 1>affected them, and man, I have a feeling we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about. So when I have an

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<v Speaker 1>individual on that that has so many years, so many years,

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<v Speaker 1>is there an experience that gave you the name super

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<v Speaker 1>Dave or do we actually need to go further back

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<v Speaker 1>than when you got the name super Dave to get

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<v Speaker 1>the whole story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I got named super Dave in high school and

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of three guys were beating up on

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<v Speaker 2>one and I jumped over this big embankment and so

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<v Speaker 2>there was like, man, you look like Superman. So the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Dave stuff, But that was way after my first encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my first encounter was in nineteen seventy four thereabouts.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was the spring. There's a lot that

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<v Speaker 2>led up to this encounter. You know, of course, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have internet back then. With no cell phones, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was hard to even take video or even much

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<v Speaker 2>less take a picture. And I grew up in a

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<v Speaker 2>poor family and we lived out on the river and

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<v Speaker 2>here in Arkansas and Saginaw, Arkansas, and where I had

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<v Speaker 2>my first encounter was the Saginaw Eddie Bottoms and I

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<v Speaker 2>used to hunt fish and trap. You know. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>real safe for me be in the house sometimes when

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<v Speaker 2>my dad was gone. So I chose to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the woods. And I love the woods. That's the only

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<v Speaker 2>place I feel just you know, I can get out

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<v Speaker 2>and people need to, you know, and they need to

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<v Speaker 2>quiet their minds, especially if they want to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>their God. Just being out of the woods, sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>and listening to the breeze, you know, listening to the birds, chirt,

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<v Speaker 2>the crickets, the frogs, all that kind of stuff. It

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<v Speaker 2>just closed off everything in your world and talk to

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<v Speaker 2>your God. So that started me out on just really

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<v Speaker 2>loving the woods and I hunt fish trap, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But leading into my encounter was I had this one

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<v Speaker 2>spot down in the Saginaw Eddy Bottoms and you got

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<v Speaker 2>the wash Tall River and you got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>creeks running in the washing tall river. You got a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of bious back in there swamped areas? Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, I always, like I said, I hunt fishing

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<v Speaker 2>trap So that morning when I was getting up, well,

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<v Speaker 2>listen back up just a little bit. I always ran

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<v Speaker 2>a trap line. I had about seven little steel traps,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would sell hides what not. And uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed that my traps were being either disappearing or disappearing,

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<v Speaker 2>or uh they were sprung. They'd have a stick at them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I figured there was somebody down there messing with

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<v Speaker 2>my traps. In the trap bait is where I first

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<v Speaker 2>started picking up. And then my traps are being stung sprung.

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<v Speaker 2>But my grandpa taught me to take catch a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of fits, take a bunch of uh fish and put

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<v Speaker 2>them in a jar and in a mason jar, and

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<v Speaker 2>then bury them by a foot in the dirt. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when it comes, when it comes, when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>fall time for trapping season, you dug that bade up

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<v Speaker 2>and it would stink to I heavn's I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was make you throw up type stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was real good for fish. And I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>fish is real good for trapping. And so I would

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<v Speaker 2>take my trap bait, and I would take it down there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't either put it in a hollow log,

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<v Speaker 2>because you didn't want to carry this stuff all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>just in case of glass broke. You wanted to transport

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<v Speaker 2>it one time, and one time only until after trap season.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I just pull it up, dump it out, and

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<v Speaker 2>then bring it on back and use the jars next year.

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<v Speaker 2>So I put it up in a you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>fork of a tree under you know, in a hollow

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<v Speaker 2>log underneath you know by uh, covered up with leaves

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<v Speaker 2>by a rock or something. But I noticed that, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>something started getting into my trap bait. Now I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything about tree knocks. I didn't know anything about woops.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know anything about tree structures. Now I saw

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<v Speaker 2>these things. I heard a bunch of tree knocks down there,

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<v Speaker 2>and saw some structures. Now that I know what I

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<v Speaker 2>know today. And I told my dad, I said, Daddy,

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<v Speaker 2>I said there's something down there and in bottoms. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what it is, but it's making all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of rackets and beating on trees and stuff. And he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, son, it's a bear. And of course how

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<v Speaker 2>many times we heard that. But in this part of Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 2>Back then, there were no bears down in this area.

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<v Speaker 2>There is now, but this was, you know, the early

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<v Speaker 2>seventies when all this took place. And when I finally

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<v Speaker 2>found some tracks, and I told my dad, hey, you

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<v Speaker 2>need to come down here and see these tracks. This

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<v Speaker 2>is what's making all that racket down there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just a little kid, And so finally I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to him into going down there. And when he saw

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<v Speaker 2>the tracks, they were about fourteen inches long because there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot bigger in my dad's boot because he

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<v Speaker 2>put his boot down there beside it. But the interesting

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<v Speaker 2>you think it only had three toes. And I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>of different people finding three toe tracks, but it had

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<v Speaker 2>three toes, which really knocked us both off. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>what the heck can this be? So my daddy turned

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<v Speaker 2>to me and he says, you know this ain't no where.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, you need to keep out in these woods.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Dad, is my best squirrel hunting spot. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said my fishing spot's over there as well, so

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't giving up these woods. And he said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if you come down here in these woods, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tear your butt up. Now, my dad didn't beat us,

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<v Speaker 2>but if we need a butt whooping, well he knew

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<v Speaker 2>to how to distribute that to us. So what I

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<v Speaker 2>had to do was is I would always get up

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<v Speaker 2>with him breakfast time, especially in the summertime. I'd eat

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<v Speaker 2>breakfast with him, and then i'd hit the woods. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>grabbed my little zep Co thirty three and my little

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<v Speaker 2>tackle box, my single shot twenty two. I'd always hit

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<v Speaker 2>the woods and be gone all day. So Daddy had

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<v Speaker 2>to work on Saturday morning. It was squirrel season, spring

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<v Speaker 2>squirrel season. We used to have a spring squirrel season here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I told him, I said, well, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>squirrel hunt. And I didn't tell him where I was going,

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<v Speaker 2>but I toldt him I was going squirrel hunting. So

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<v Speaker 2>when I got ready, I grabbed my Zepco thirty three,

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<v Speaker 2>my tackle box, and my single shot twenty two rifle

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<v Speaker 2>of Marlin or Stevens. It wasn't a very expensive one,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I went. When I was heading out the door,

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<v Speaker 2>I reached over in the there on the stove, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's some biscuits left over from that morning's breakfast, and

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<v Speaker 2>I grabbed some biscuits and then I went out to

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<v Speaker 2>the back room of the house, and that's where we

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<v Speaker 2>kept our freezers. But we killed hogs every year, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we poured, we went to we went to town about

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<v Speaker 2>once a month, you know, to buy a flyer sugar coffee,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just the bare necessities because we grew everything

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<v Speaker 2>on this farm. And so there was five gallon buckets

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<v Speaker 2>full of hogs, skins and cracklings. So I stuffed them

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<v Speaker 2>biscuits and my little squirrel best and then I put

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<v Speaker 2>some cracklings off in my pocket and I hit the woods. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>leaving out the house, you have to get down to

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<v Speaker 2>this place. I waited till Daddy left and I I

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<v Speaker 2>had to walk across this big pastor that entered the

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<v Speaker 2>woods where I usually squirrel hunted. And I noticed because

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<v Speaker 2>there was woods to the side of me, but the

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<v Speaker 2>big part was way up in front of me. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was walking across this pastor, pretty close to the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>and I noticed there was nothing happening. Now, usually you

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<v Speaker 2>know it was misty that or not misty. It was

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<v Speaker 2>foggy that morning, but the fog was beginning to you know, epicipate.

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<v Speaker 2>But I noticed an uncomfortable feeling. I guess it is

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<v Speaker 2>about the way I could put it, because the woods

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<v Speaker 2>were all silent. There would be sometimes prior to this

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<v Speaker 2>this morning that you know, everything shut off just like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean birds nothing. Of course, I know now when

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<v Speaker 2>that happens there's generally a large predator in the area.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that when I was getting it. Be like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened? You know? I just going about my way

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<v Speaker 2>once while you could, you could take a woof of uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it smelled like urine and a real musky garbage type smell.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd smell that air and down in there. I told

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<v Speaker 2>my daddy about smell, and he said, no, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but a bears. Daddy, ain't no bears down there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had an uneasy feeling that morning in my stomach.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't put my finger on it. There was just

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<v Speaker 2>something that wouldn't off. There was something that was off.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I got up to the edge of the

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<v Speaker 2>barb wire fence to get into these woods, and I

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<v Speaker 2>cut off to the right and go down to the

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<v Speaker 2>creek and then go all the way down the creek

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<v Speaker 2>to the bayou where the wash Stow River backed up.

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<v Speaker 2>And I stood there for a minute just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>looking around because it was so quiet you could have

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<v Speaker 2>heard a pin drop, and I mean it was just

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<v Speaker 2>just something was out of place and I couldn't quite

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<v Speaker 2>put my finger on it. So I started slipping of

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<v Speaker 2>the woods, which was real easy because it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like there was some good hardwood trees in there

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<v Speaker 2>on the pine needles. You could just slip through the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So I started easing through the woods. By

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<v Speaker 2>this time, you know, I've got that you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>stomach's kind of, you know, feeling a little bit queasy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got about halfway down there to where the

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<v Speaker 2>creek was, and so I just kind of backed up

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<v Speaker 2>to a pine tree and just kind of slid down

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<v Speaker 2>and set there for a minute because I wasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that gray. And I pulled out a biscuit and

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<v Speaker 2>put a bunch of cracklings in there, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>chewing on that biscuit with cracklings and a few hawkskins.

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<v Speaker 2>So I sat there for a little bit. Now by

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<v Speaker 2>this time, I've already got you know, six or eight squirrels.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm almost tagged out when I get to

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<v Speaker 2>this place, and they ain't a squirrel bark, and they

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<v Speaker 2>ain't a crow calling. There's not no blue jays. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>we used to have a lot of blue jay's back then.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have any blue jays. You know. There was

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<v Speaker 2>noise in the woods and this was I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>could barely hear the wind blowing. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 2>quiet quiet. So I sat there for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, my head's on a swivel by

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<v Speaker 2>this time, because something's not good. And so I made

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<v Speaker 2>my way down to the creek. Now, two weeks before this,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a tornader come down through there and it

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<v Speaker 2>laid over one of my favorite oak trees. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this sucker was huge, huge, and it laid it over

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<v Speaker 2>that creek. So my head's on a swivel. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that great because something was off. So I went

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<v Speaker 2>it was just right there where it drops off into

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<v Speaker 2>the bayou. And that was my place to fish. So

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<v Speaker 2>I got my and my left hand, I got my

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<v Speaker 2>my right hand. I've got my my rifle, my twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two rifle. So I had to go around the top

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<v Speaker 2>of that tree, you know, And so I'm still I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still in stealth mode. I'm stealthing around, you know. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking here, and you got to go up over a

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<v Speaker 2>little bankment then the creek drop down there. So when

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<v Speaker 2>I started getting up to that embankment, something caught my

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<v Speaker 2>eye over here, and I'm kind of looking a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the tree top. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>a squirrel or something. As I'm walking up this hill.

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<v Speaker 2>When I get almost to the top of this hill,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I went, I just turned and looked straight

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me, and just to the left of

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<v Speaker 2>me is where he was standing. Now, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what a big foot is. I don't know what a

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<v Speaker 2>feral human is. I don't know what a hybrid is,

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<v Speaker 2>and these things I've dealt with after this. But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just froze, you know, I'm just I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like it felt like a boat to light and

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<v Speaker 2>it went through my body. Now my mind's telling me

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<v Speaker 2>to scream, I mean telling me to run, screaming at

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<v Speaker 2>me run, and with my free man. They were concreted

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<v Speaker 2>to the ground. I could not move. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>pet petrified. And he's looking at me, and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at him, and he was about as surprised as I was.

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<v Speaker 2>My mouth was open, his mouth was open, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was clicking his teeth, clicking his teeth like that at me.

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<v Speaker 2>And he had one hand, his right hand. He was

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<v Speaker 2>standing about knee deep water and his hand was in

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<v Speaker 2>the water and he was flopping his hand like this

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<v Speaker 2>in the water real fast. It was shooting ripples out.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see that kind of liking my preferle because

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<v Speaker 2>I never lost eye contact with this thing. And he

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<v Speaker 2>reared back and let out the most powerful scream I

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<v Speaker 2>think I've ever heard in my life. Now, I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>decent Rascal scream. I've had a bluff charge me, I've

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<v Speaker 2>had him do everything in the world, but nothing as

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<v Speaker 2>powerful as this one. This one reminded me of an

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<v Speaker 2>old cartoon when something big would be hollering at something

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<v Speaker 2>real little, and their hair be all blowing behind them,

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<v Speaker 2>their skin be moving and stuff. I mean this, when

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<v Speaker 2>he screamed, it literally vibrated everything in my body. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean everything shook, and you could feel I could literally

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<v Speaker 2>feel that screen hitting me, and of course it being

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<v Speaker 2>a twelve year old boy to hit my bladder and

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<v Speaker 2>everything cut loose right there, and we sat there. I

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<v Speaker 2>was just pacified, and we're sitting there, standing each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a very quick encounter, but it seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like it took a man years. And he ended up

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<v Speaker 2>reaching back with his left hand and coming across and

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<v Speaker 2>he caught water like that and threw it up in

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<v Speaker 2>my face. This is how how close to that encounter is.

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<v Speaker 2>And when that water hit my face, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>everything come back into focus because soon as I saw him.

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<v Speaker 2>The best way I could put it is, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, I don't know if you've ever been a

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<v Speaker 2>gun by or combat or anything like that. What happened

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<v Speaker 2>to me was everything went tunnel vision and it was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like my ears. Everything went quiet in my ears,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, everything was totally infocused, and my adrenaline

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<v Speaker 2>is just dumping, dumping, dumping, And when he splashed that

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<v Speaker 2>water in my face, that's when I took off running.

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<v Speaker 2>Now evidently I didn't know it, but I dropped my

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<v Speaker 2>tackle box and my fishing pole instead of running, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of walking or running around the top of that tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I ran through it. Now, I had my twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>in my hand all this time, but never realized it

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<v Speaker 2>was even in my hand. I didn't even know I

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<v Speaker 2>dropped my tackle box till I was back home. So

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<v Speaker 2>I split through the woods, plowed through that top of

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<v Speaker 2>that tree. You know. I had scrapes, blood running everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>running through the briers. When I got to the barb

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<v Speaker 2>bar fence, I just dove through through the middle, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got all scraped up on my back and

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<v Speaker 2>on my chest. I rolled and I hit that pasture

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<v Speaker 2>and I ran as fast as a twelve year old

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<v Speaker 2>kid could run. And when I got to the house,

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<v Speaker 2>I just collapsed. I just rolled boom, knocked the breath

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<v Speaker 2>out of me. And I'm sitting there trying to get air.

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<v Speaker 2>And my grandpa was coming in from the from the barn.

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<v Speaker 2>He had two cans gallon cans, ten cans of milk,

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<v Speaker 2>so he had been out milking the cow. So when

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<v Speaker 2>he come up to me, he said, boy, what's wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with you? What's wrong with you? And he see I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't catch my breath, so he grabbed my belt in

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<v Speaker 2>the center and pulled me up automatically. Caught my breath

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, there's a monster down in their Grandpa, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a monster in their woods. And he told me, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, I told you, boy, there was a haint

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<v Speaker 2>down there. Now he called it a haint, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, there's a haint down there. I told you

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<v Speaker 2>that haint was. I told you not to go down there.

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<v Speaker 2>That haint's going to take off a you. We ain't

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<v Speaker 2>never gonna see you again. You going down there again.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, I said, there's a monster down there.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I didn't realize is my grandfather had also

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<v Speaker 2>had bigfoot encounters throughout his life. You know, we grew

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<v Speaker 2>up poor. He was in his early twenties, maybe late teens,

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<v Speaker 2>and he been working since he was knee high, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>chopping cotton and all that kind of stuff. And he

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<v Speaker 2>was born in nineteen o two, I believe. And he

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<v Speaker 2>said when he was an Idaho, he was a tree

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<v Speaker 2>topper and he would he was the skinny guy that

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<v Speaker 2>go up and cuts the tops out of these trees.

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<v Speaker 2>This ain't chainsaw, This is crosscut sauce. And sometimes he'd

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<v Speaker 2>have one guy on one side, him on the other

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<v Speaker 2>and they're using this big crosscut saw to cut the

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<v Speaker 2>tops out of the trees. Most dangerous thing and logging

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<v Speaker 2>back then anyways, and he said he could see them

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<v Speaker 2>watching them in the woods because he was way up

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<v Speaker 2>in the air, you know, and these these uh he

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<v Speaker 2>first thought there were bears running around until he got

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<v Speaker 2>a good look. But one day one a person in

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<v Speaker 2>his camp took a pop shot at one. He never

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<v Speaker 2>said if they hit it or not, but that guy

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<v Speaker 2>come back and say, hey, man, you know I saw this.

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<v Speaker 2>This ain't no bear. I don't know what this is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, giant Harry monster, and and I had to

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<v Speaker 2>shoot at it. So that night in camp, there was

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<v Speaker 2>several of them come into camp that night once once

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was asleep, and they literally tore that camp down.

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<v Speaker 2>And the only only person that got hurt in that

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<v Speaker 2>was the guy that pulled the trigger. Now tell me,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody can't tell me that these things ain't smart at all,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've seen them do some some far out stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was my first encounter. Of course. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Grandpa told Dad, I got my butt tore up. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I told Daddy my fishing post down there, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, well, go get it. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>come with me. So Daddy ended up going down there

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<v Speaker 2>and my fishing pole was laying there. The tackle box

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<v Speaker 2>was open, and there was lures kind of scattered around,

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<v Speaker 2>hooks and stuff, and there was some lures even gone,

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<v Speaker 2>so I guess he went through my tackle box just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of looking around and what not. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>could see the tracks. Of course, nobody knew nothing about

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<v Speaker 2>casting back then, and you could see the tracks. Daddy

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<v Speaker 2>saw them fourteen in tracks with them three toes. He said, boy,

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<v Speaker 2>you're in for it. So, I mean that was my

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<v Speaker 2>first encounter and and it kind of just man, it

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<v Speaker 2>really messed me up. I mean that was probably my

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<v Speaker 2>first almost my first taste of PTSD, and it really

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<v Speaker 2>shook me up. And then, uh, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was if I asked some questions about that encounter, super Dap,

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<v Speaker 1>you bet awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine a child of that age going through

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Uh, it sounds like it's very very

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<v Speaker 1>close to you. Do you have any idea from your

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<v Speaker 1>memory of how tall it was?

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<v Speaker 2>I must say it because it stood a tall. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it was above me and I was up on

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<v Speaker 2>the bank and then the correct went down. So he

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of above me if we were seeing eye

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<v Speaker 2>to eye. So if I had to guess, he was

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<v Speaker 2>probably eight foot tall, okay, and its teeth look like

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<v Speaker 2>they were like look like horse teeth. It was big

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<v Speaker 2>block either wasn't no canines because he was clacking his

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<v Speaker 2>teeth at me. Kind of looked like he was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of smiling. I don't know if that was a smile

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<v Speaker 2>or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So man, that that's really interesting. That's come up not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot on the show, but once or twice. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've had a discussion with a witness before

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<v Speaker 1>where it makes you wonder because when you so this

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<v Speaker 1>is all like, you know, do we know what it is? No,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't. But if we're dealing with something that has

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<v Speaker 1>a primate background, when you see them smile at you,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the same thing as when a human smiles,

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<v Speaker 1>that means something way different. It could be a threatening thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, But how how wide across would would you

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<v Speaker 1>say it was.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing? He wasn't big Blockie. Now he was. He

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<v Speaker 2>was fit, He was taught the best way I can

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<v Speaker 2>destrive it. He looked like an NBA player. He still

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<v Speaker 2>had muscle tongue. Now here's the kicker about it. My

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<v Speaker 2>first encounter. I've never seen, well that I can talk

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<v Speaker 2>on record, I've never seen uh one that looked like

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<v Speaker 2>this one. Now, whether he was a sasquatch or a

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<v Speaker 2>faro human, I know he had he had features like ours.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I couldn't I could barely see his eyes because

416
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.240
<v Speaker 2>his hair was hanging down in his face and all

417
00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:34.559
<v Speaker 2>his hair looked like he'd been rolling down in the mud,

418
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>had leaves, you know, down down his arms and stuff,

419
00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and then his thighs and whatnot. But he looked like

420
00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:45.039
<v Speaker 2>an NBA player, So I would have to guess he

421
00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:48.559
<v Speaker 2>was probably somewhere maybe around seven and a half eight

422
00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:52.240
<v Speaker 2>foot tall. But he had nose like ours, but it

423
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.839
<v Speaker 2>was huge, you know. I couldn't see his ears because

424
00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:58.279
<v Speaker 2>his ears hair was hanging down his ears. He had

425
00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:02.799
<v Speaker 2>about six inch six inch hair on his arms and

426
00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:05.440
<v Speaker 2>his legs. It was a little bear right in here

427
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:08.559
<v Speaker 2>in the chest area. And he had a beard and

428
00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:12.720
<v Speaker 2>had a mustache. I wouldn't well get it at all,

429
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:17.119
<v Speaker 2>But this thing reminded me more of a feral human

430
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>than or maybe even a hybrid instead of a bigfoot,

431
00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:23.880
<v Speaker 2>because I've seen some, you know, and I ain't never

432
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:27.240
<v Speaker 2>saw a pretty bigfoot, I'm sorry, just never have. But

433
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen one that I can talk on record

434
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:38.079
<v Speaker 2>like this one. He loves wild, giant, wild man. All

435
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:39.240
<v Speaker 2>I saw was a monster.

436
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. So it sounds like from what you saw, you're

437
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>definitely saying it seemed to be more male than female,

438
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

439
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Definitely? Yeah, he didn't have a little boobs or nothing

440
00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:51.720
<v Speaker 2>like that.

441
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Sure, when you've used NBA player a few times, and

442
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:02.039
<v Speaker 1>would you say, then let's well use more on the

443
00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.559
<v Speaker 1>Larry Bird side or the shack size because there's muscular

444
00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>differences between NBA players, you know.

445
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Right, Definitely, Now he was more on shack size.

446
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, gotcha.

447
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.039
<v Speaker 2>He was big, but he was long and like. I

448
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.039
<v Speaker 2>mean he was real tall, but he was long and like.

449
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.160
<v Speaker 2>And now he was still big, but he looked more

450
00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>like if you say Shaq, it looked more like Shaq. Now,

451
00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 2>the ones I've seen over my lifetime, you know, I've

452
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:30.279
<v Speaker 2>seen some big has daddies. I'm talking about some King Koreos,

453
00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.000
<v Speaker 2>but none of them ever looked like this one here. Now,

454
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.079
<v Speaker 2>I've seen some lanky bigfoots. I've seen some pot bettery bigfoots,

455
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, but that first encounter, I ain never saw

456
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.359
<v Speaker 2>one after that, like exactly like him, because his nose

457
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.839
<v Speaker 2>wasn't flat, his face wouldn't protrude or anything like that.

458
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>He was just he looked like he took too much growth.

459
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Hormone that makes that makes you wonder man, that's wild.

460
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.880
<v Speaker 1>But then, I mean, you've already said that this really

461
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>affected you. You got really your first taste of PTSD.

462
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:12.759
<v Speaker 1>When when witnesses have these encounters, it seems like that

463
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it will either put them on a road where they

464
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:20.599
<v Speaker 1>got to figure out what this is, or they just

465
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:24.039
<v Speaker 1>they get away from it and it really affects them

466
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>going into the woods. Did you go down either of

467
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>those trails or was your path a little different after that?

468
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I kind of went down both trails. Number one, I

469
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 2>became scared of the dark. I mean, you know, I

470
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>shared my story, you know, with some of my cousins

471
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:42.079
<v Speaker 2>and family members. Of course, I got rid of kuled

472
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.880
<v Speaker 2>made fun of you know, oh there's a bigfoot guy,

473
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:49.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it wasn't cool. It wouldn't a compliment

474
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.559
<v Speaker 2>at all. And sometimes my cousins would be like, hey,

475
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.640
<v Speaker 2>let's go Dave outside, you know, with my older brother,

476
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 2>and they chumped me outside in the dark. Man, I

477
00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>would peel the paint off the wall to get back.

478
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.319
<v Speaker 2>So when the sun went down, my but was in

479
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:05.400
<v Speaker 2>the house, I wouldn't go back. I used to coon

480
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:08.599
<v Speaker 2>hunt by myself, run those river bottoms all by myself.

481
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Didn't have ner They're none, you know, Me and my

482
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>two dogs, I mean, out all night popping coons out

483
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:17.759
<v Speaker 2>of the top of the tree. Never had a problem

484
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:20.759
<v Speaker 2>at all. But after that I hung up all that.

485
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:29.519
<v Speaker 2>But there was that something in me. Even though that

486
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>was a scary encounter, something in me kind of flipped,

487
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess, and it was like, what is this? You know,

488
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 2>how do I you know, where do I put this

489
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:43.640
<v Speaker 2>thing in? So you know, my little mind's running one

490
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>hundred miles an hour. And I scared the dark till

491
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen years old. It got dark unless I

492
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>was out with a bunch of friends playing in the

493
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 2>front yard. You know, I was in the house. But

494
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.759
<v Speaker 2>I finally overcome that fear. Don't bother me now I

495
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>can be out there. I've had them all around me

496
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 2>out in the middle of the art, you know, way

497
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 2>up those art mountains. Crazy stuff. But but that one

498
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of boogered me up a little bit.

499
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, was there a thing you did to get

500
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 1>over your fear of the dark.

501
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:17.839
<v Speaker 2>I think it just come with time and more or

502
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 2>less more understanding of what these things are. Because because

503
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>once that happened, you know, every book I can get

504
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.960
<v Speaker 2>my hand on, you know, I read about Bigfoot, and

505
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 2>there wasn't a whole lot of books on Bigfoot, but

506
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 2>there were some. You know, I'd go to the libraries and

507
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:40.559
<v Speaker 2>check out books about Bigfoot, started reading and whatnot, finding

508
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:44.200
<v Speaker 2>out what these critters are, and that just kind of

509
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:49.519
<v Speaker 2>started to smark in me. And from that encounter, from

510
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 2>that first encounter, you know, a lot of people say

511
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 2>that these things mark you. I'm a firm believer in

512
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 2>that because I I didn't have to go looking for them.

513
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 2>They were just always there. It didn't matter where I

514
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.160
<v Speaker 2>moved in the United States. These rascals would show up

515
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:14.319
<v Speaker 2>in my life, you know, throughout my life, you know,

516
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>and and there's always been I mean, there was some

517
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>that weren't so pleasant, so to speak, but most of

518
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 2>them have been. You know, they see you, You see them,

519
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, they know I'm there. I even talk to them,

520
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, call me crazy, but I talked to them.

521
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's not crazy.

522
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Let them know in the woods, because I know they're

523
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:43.359
<v Speaker 2>going to be there, especially I would going to a

524
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>hot area. You know, a lot of my research area

525
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:52.759
<v Speaker 2>now is in southwest Arkansas, close to Louisiana and Texas,

526
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and man, there's a whole passle of them down there,

527
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 2>which is crazy. But I got video for fotage of

528
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:05.640
<v Speaker 2>them thermal, lots of thermal and stuff, screams, hollers, all

529
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>kinds of stuff down there that I ain't even released yet.

530
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Okay, so you just kind of answered. So,

531
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.759
<v Speaker 1>are is this a thing where listeners can like go

532
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to Do you have some stuff out on like a

533
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.039
<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel or a Facebook or you're just kind of

534
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 1>getting there?

535
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.519
<v Speaker 2>This is Yeah, I'm kind of getting there, you know.

536
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.799
<v Speaker 2>I was. I was a closet bigfooter for fifty one

537
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 2>and a half years until a buddy of mine come

538
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 2>in here and he started way he wouldn't a buddy

539
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>of mine, but he come in and introduced himself, and

540
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, he says, hey, man, everybody, I talk to you.

541
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:43.160
<v Speaker 2>He says, come down here and talk to you about bigfoot.

542
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.319
<v Speaker 2>So he said, tell me a story. So I told

543
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.359
<v Speaker 2>him the first story and then blowed away, and he's like, man,

544
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>you got to tell people about this. I was like, no,

545
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.200
<v Speaker 2>not at all, I said, I've kept this stuff to myself.

546
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I go out and do my little investigations. I do

547
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 2>my little you know, little this little of that. I've

548
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:04.039
<v Speaker 2>seen him all my life, and I keep it to myself.

549
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.599
<v Speaker 2>I said, I got ridly killed when I was a kid,

550
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>and most of my life about talking about this subject.

551
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.240
<v Speaker 2>So everybody said I was crazy, and if I come

552
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 2>out and publicly and say that, then people are going

553
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:22.200
<v Speaker 2>to know that I'm crazy, and you know. So I

554
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.279
<v Speaker 2>didn't share. And then he kept coming in and I

555
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:29.039
<v Speaker 2>tell him another story, telling another story. Finally he contacted

556
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Mguil with Sasquatch theory, and so Miguel started talking to

557
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.960
<v Speaker 2>me about coming on his channel, and I remember the

558
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>first time he called. I was like, nope, I ain't

559
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>telling nobody. I'll tell you some, but I ain't telling nobody.

560
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll talk to you, but not on their

561
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 2>But they both stayed on me. So finally I said, okay,

562
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 2>I'll share a few stories. So I did a phone

563
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>interview with Miguel, and later on I went up there

564
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>to Missouri then had a set down with him face

565
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.720
<v Speaker 2>to face and did an interview there and told me

566
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:04.480
<v Speaker 2>about some of my experiences and whatnot. So that's why

567
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.440
<v Speaker 2>it got me all into this and going public. Now,

568
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, going public, I've been ridiculed againt. Church don't

569
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>understand anything about this.

570
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Yes, dude, if there's anyone that should understand it, it's

571
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the church. And why are Like, dude, you're a religious

572
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 1>guy too, right, Like, why in the world is the

573
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>church losing the bus? Like missing the bus on this?

574
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.319
<v Speaker 1>It gets me so riled up, dude, Like.

575
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well what the church don't know and don't understand?

576
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:42.519
<v Speaker 2>They always Well, it's a datemon. You're out chasing demons. Now,

577
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.200
<v Speaker 2>you don't lost your ever loving mind you chasing demons?

578
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>You know. I I believe myself these things are flesh

579
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.599
<v Speaker 2>and blood from what I've seen in all my accounters.

580
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.559
<v Speaker 2>Flesh and blood is what I mean. There is an

581
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 2>actual entity, one of these critters looking at me or

582
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 2>tree peeking, you know, there he is right there. I

583
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>remember one time, probably the funniest thing I ever saw

584
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 2>was the pop belly Bigfoot. Now, I don't know what

585
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 2>this thing was thinking, but he had a big, old belly.

586
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:27.599
<v Speaker 2>Now he was probably maybe seven, maybe he probably used

587
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 2>to be taller because he was an older bigfoot. He

588
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of gray standing out there about sixty

589
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:36.519
<v Speaker 2>yards and this is a daytime sighting, and he's kind of,

590
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, slumped over real hard. You can tell. You

591
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 2>can tell he was an older, older bigfoot. And he's

592
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 2>hiding behind a tree. This sucker is huge, but he's

593
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.039
<v Speaker 2>hiding behind a tree like this, And he was standing

594
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.079
<v Speaker 2>with that tree right up here, and you could see

595
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>his big belly sticking out on the other side of

596
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:57.880
<v Speaker 2>that tree, and you can see his butt cheeks sticking

597
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.159
<v Speaker 2>out on the other side of that tree. And he

598
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:02.880
<v Speaker 2>would look around that tree like that at me, and

599
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 2>then he would hide his eyes where he couldn't see me,

600
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.159
<v Speaker 2>and then he would look back behind here like this,

601
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:12.320
<v Speaker 2>around that tree, and I'm like, dude, I see you.

602
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, I busched it out laughing. It was just funny.

603
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:18.480
<v Speaker 2>It was funny. But that was back before cell phone

604
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:22.320
<v Speaker 2>cell phones and video stuff and whatnot. I would have

605
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 2>loved to got that on a video on that because

606
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 2>that was probably my most hilarious besides people running. You know,

607
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.199
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty funny too. You know, everybody want to see

608
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:33.119
<v Speaker 2>a big foot until the Bigfoot show was up.

609
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:35.320
<v Speaker 1>That's true, that is true.

610
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>They scattered, Oh I want to see a big I

611
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:38.800
<v Speaker 2>want to see a big foot. And then when the

612
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.800
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot shows up, they run like a bunch of ice.

613
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 1>For sure? For sure. Has there ever been a time, though,

614
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.320
<v Speaker 1>where you have wanted to skidadle like a bunch of

615
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>mice because it got so intense?

616
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Or oh yeah, yeah, I know when to back Alburt Woods,

617
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, I know when I've pushed it too far.

618
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:05.000
<v Speaker 2>One incident that happened south central Arkansas is Big Eddy

619
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:09.119
<v Speaker 2>when I dubbed his name Big Eddie. Now I'm intervening

620
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:13.039
<v Speaker 2>with this clan for probably about six years, had a

621
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.559
<v Speaker 2>gifting spot. I mean it was just it was just

622
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.800
<v Speaker 2>wild wild. I had them all around me that I

623
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:21.360
<v Speaker 2>could see. And that was one night I can get

624
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 2>into that story a little bit, when I was out

625
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:26.840
<v Speaker 2>there fishing. But Big Eddie he never showed none of

626
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>them ever showed aggression. This clan here, and there was

627
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.599
<v Speaker 2>five of them according to the eye shines. And but

628
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>one day he come, I'm walking through the woods this

629
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 2>deer season, I'm kind of just slipping through the woods,

630
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 2>and he busts. I knew they were around, because if

631
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:54.079
<v Speaker 2>you've been around these cutters long enough, your body will

632
00:36:54.119 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 2>tell you when they're around. I don't know how that works,

633
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 2>But when one's around, I know it's around.

634
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Can you explain that.

635
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, It's kind of like sometimes there's an overwhelming feeling

636
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 2>of dread. Sometimes there's a you know, you're you're like run,

637
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, And usually when that one takes place, I

638
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.519
<v Speaker 2>start backing out it woods, you know. I know when

639
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 2>to back out when not to back out. But it's

640
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.559
<v Speaker 2>like the hair on my arms will stand up, hair

641
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>on the back of my neck will stand up. When

642
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.519
<v Speaker 2>these critters get around me. I know when one's close.

643
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:46.760
<v Speaker 2>And but big Eddie, he's never showed any aggression at all.

644
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Now that one's probably he's probably pushing eleven foot tall.

645
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Now I've got a track of his. It's eighteen inches

646
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.159
<v Speaker 2>wide or eighteen inches long and about nine inches wide.

647
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.000
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a real good track because it was in

648
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 2>a gravel bar. But uh, he come busting out of

649
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.199
<v Speaker 2>I was in some pretty pretty thick woods down in

650
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the bottoms, and he come busting out of a clear

651
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>cut that was growed up way over my head. You know,

652
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:18.239
<v Speaker 2>it was just grass trees, uh what I call crappy trees,

653
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 2>ones that don't produce nothing. They're just there. And uh,

654
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 2>he come busting out of that now he he when

655
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:30.840
<v Speaker 2>he busted out, I mean fast. Have you ever seen

656
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 2>uh any videos where them them gorillas uh bluff bluff

657
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.800
<v Speaker 2>charged the glass. He looked like that. He was on

658
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:47.159
<v Speaker 2>all fours and he was kind of what we call

659
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 2>here in Arkansas puppy tracking. In other words, Uh, you

660
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:55.280
<v Speaker 2>notice puppies when they walk their their were ends out

661
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Speaker 2>to one side or out to the other side. It's

662
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.280
<v Speaker 2>called puppy tracking. That's what we call it. So he

663
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 2>was puppy tracking. He was kind of not coming at

664
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:08.320
<v Speaker 2>me sideways, but almost sideways at an angle. You know.

665
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>He was at an angle on all fours, and he

666
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:16.440
<v Speaker 2>come busting through that brush and was heading straight for me. Now,

667
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:21.639
<v Speaker 2>I've got a friend, mister Luxford. I figured I figured

668
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:22.960
<v Speaker 2>i'd probably die that day.

669
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>He's a great guy too. If we're talking about the

670
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:26.079
<v Speaker 1>same guy.

671
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, h, I'm sure we're talking about the same guy.

672
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>But I talked to him years ago and I made

673
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 2>him down to the Bigfoot Conference down in Louisiana, and

674
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, you know, I've had some aggressive ones.

675
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>What do you know, kind of filling him out a

676
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.960
<v Speaker 2>little bit on his take, and he's like, always stand

677
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 2>your ground. He says, always stand your ground. And he said,

678
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:55.840
<v Speaker 2>if you run, it clicks that predator chase. You know,

679
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:58.599
<v Speaker 2>I've got two German shepherds. They love my cat, but

680
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 2>if my cat takes off running, they run after. So

681
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.119
<v Speaker 2>all I could hear was mister Lungford in my brain,

682
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.000
<v Speaker 2>stand your ground, stand your ground, stand your ground. So

683
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I stealed my ground and just kind of you know

684
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.519
<v Speaker 2>what kind of you know, how you religious prey, one

685
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 2>eye closed, one eye peeking, watching him come at me.

686
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:25.800
<v Speaker 2>And when he got probably twenty less than twenty yards

687
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 2>from me, and he come to a screech and halt

688
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:33.119
<v Speaker 2>and just took and scuffed the ground. Of course, there's

689
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.519
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of leaves, dirt, limbs, all that kind of stuff,

690
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:40.960
<v Speaker 2>and just showered me with this stuff and just sat

691
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 2>there and looked at me for a little bit and

692
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 2>he turned and walked away. Now after this happened, I

693
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:51.840
<v Speaker 2>mean almost wept my britches. But after this, after this happened.

694
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.599
<v Speaker 2>I started talking to a few guys that I knew

695
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 2>that that was in the bigfoot world. I've been following

696
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:01.079
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, and I said, this thing ain't

697
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.440
<v Speaker 2>never showed no aggression to me. Why did he show

698
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:06.440
<v Speaker 2>aggression to me? The only thing they could figure and

699
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 2>it makes sense that there was a new juvenile, that

700
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 2>there was a possibility I got too close to because

701
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 2>he's never showed aggression before and never showed aggression afterwards,

702
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 2>because I had encounters with him afterwards. I had encounters

703
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:26.239
<v Speaker 2>up till there was a fifteen foot of water come

704
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:28.840
<v Speaker 2>through there, and I haven't seen them back in there since.

705
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they moved on. Of course, I

706
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:35.559
<v Speaker 2>hadn't been down there in a year, so yeah, maybe

707
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.960
<v Speaker 2>a little over a year. But I need to go

708
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:42.079
<v Speaker 2>back down there and check it out. But that was

709
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:44.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty scary. That made me sin. As I got home,

710
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I got online because I like building weapons, and I

711
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.079
<v Speaker 2>put together a four fifty eight so con that I

712
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.239
<v Speaker 2>wear on my plate carrier now when I go out

713
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:57.400
<v Speaker 2>looking for thee because some of them, some of them

714
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:01.400
<v Speaker 2>are I mean, you see them most encounters, it's like

715
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>three to five seconds boom, you see them there gone

716
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:09.400
<v Speaker 2>just like that, and some encounters alone. But some of

717
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:13.679
<v Speaker 2>these things, even me, you know, they tend to be

718
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.840
<v Speaker 2>a little bit grouchy, either they got up on the

719
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 2>wrong side of the bed or you know, I've seen

720
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.400
<v Speaker 2>them just growl and you know, bury their teeth at me.

721
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 2>When they do that, then it's time to back out.

722
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, oh, whoa baby boy, I'm on back

723
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.199
<v Speaker 2>out of here. Now this is your house. I'm gonna

724
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.400
<v Speaker 2>go the other way, so I'll just start backing out

725
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the woods.

726
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So would you say, and just to clarify for

727
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the audience, would you say then that preparation is more

728
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>for your safety, like you're not going out and trying

729
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:50.599
<v Speaker 1>to take one out on purpose, or maybe you are.

730
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.320
<v Speaker 2>It would break my heartshoe one really good.

731
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

732
00:42:54.159 --> 00:43:00.079
<v Speaker 2>I would prefer to have these things protected absolutely. The

733
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.920
<v Speaker 2>government know about these things absolutely absolutely. But you know

734
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.920
<v Speaker 2>there's things out there called the NDAs, so I'm bound.

735
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:13.719
<v Speaker 2>But uh, you know, they can be very very aggressive

736
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:20.559
<v Speaker 2>at times. And whoever says that these critters have never

737
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.519
<v Speaker 2>taken a human life, they don't know what they're talking about.

738
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:26.800
<v Speaker 2>They have a lot of idea what they're talking about.

739
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing that always comes up because people

740
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.320
<v Speaker 1>would be like, well, we've never heard the stories. Well

741
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 1>that's because there's no one left to tell the story, right,

742
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.039
<v Speaker 1>That's what I think is going on. If you're having

743
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:41.519
<v Speaker 1>those situations where someone gets taken out like, it's because

744
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 1>there's no one else there to tell the story after

745
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>they're gone.

746
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Right, you know. And but look at the advidence, you

747
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:51.719
<v Speaker 2>know the four one one politis right, you know, there's

748
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 2>there's you know, he's got proof, but nobody will listen.

749
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>That's true after that encounter when he bluff charged me

750
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:02.639
<v Speaker 2>like that. I've been bluff charged for, but not like this.

751
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't go out unless I go heavy.

752
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I go with protection. You know. My first defense is

753
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 2>a big giant can a bear spray that is on

754
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:18.480
<v Speaker 2>my hip. But I also carry two pistols. I carry

755
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.039
<v Speaker 2>my big knife, and I carry a four fifty eight.

756
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.760
<v Speaker 2>So con with elephant charges in there, you know, I

757
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:26.360
<v Speaker 2>would hate shoot one. I would want to shoot one.

758
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.519
<v Speaker 2>It breaks my heart to do that because that's not

759
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 2>my mission. My mission is having counters with these things.

760
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Some of them are pretty cool, you know. Some of

761
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.920
<v Speaker 2>them are comical, like the fat one had the beer belly.

762
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:41.920
<v Speaker 2>That was my beer belly. Sasquatch, you know, are quite hilarious,

763
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, to see juveniles playing in the water. You know,

764
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:52.239
<v Speaker 2>they're just like kids playing in the water, splashing each other,

765
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, jumping off trees into the water. They can

766
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>swim real good.

767
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned earlier that you've seen some pretty far

768
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:10.360
<v Speaker 1>out things. Can are there any that you can share,

769
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:14.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe something you experienced during encounter that just it just

770
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>really threw your mind out there.

771
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Like I said, there's a lot I can't say,

772
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 2>but it's you know, seeing the bigfoots and orbs, you know.

773
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've seen that multiple times over my life.

774
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I got videos of orbs all over the place and

775
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 2>it was we're definitely quiet. I couldn't see the bigfoot.

776
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:43.599
<v Speaker 2>I knew he was there, but there was orbs, you know,

777
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.119
<v Speaker 2>and multiple people had saw that that was with me.

778
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.400
<v Speaker 2>That was just not probably an hour away from here

779
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:56.679
<v Speaker 2>from where I live at in Arkansas. But the the

780
00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:04.000
<v Speaker 2>most interesting that really rocked my head was that was

781
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.400
<v Speaker 2>one I was up in the Ozark up in the

782
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>ose Arts and there's another person with me. It's probably

783
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:14.599
<v Speaker 2>two o'clock in the morning. You know, we're out some heavy,

784
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:22.480
<v Speaker 2>heavy mountainous woods thick partially thick, and we're going down

785
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:26.519
<v Speaker 2>this old logging road and then we hear a tree

786
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 2>knock bam, and the girl that I was with, was

787
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:38.519
<v Speaker 2>that a tree knock. I said, yeah, that's treenck and

788
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 2>so I said, let's just get still here, let's just watch,

789
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.519
<v Speaker 2>and we picked him up on thermal. Now, this thing's

790
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:51.000
<v Speaker 2>probably right at eighty yards away tree peeking looking around

791
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Speaker 2>the tree. Knew where exactly where we were. So we

792
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:59.519
<v Speaker 2>just kind of hunkered down and watched him, and he

793
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 2>started going from tree to tree, getting closer to us.

794
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Now we're watching this on thermal. This sucker is lit up,

795
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and then the woods in front of us. This is

796
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 2>the reason I prefer a thermal. It's over night vision.

797
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Night vision. Just you know, if you got brushed in

798
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:18.079
<v Speaker 2>front of it, you can't see through it. The thermal,

799
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:19.599
<v Speaker 2>you can see right through it. You can see the

800
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:26.920
<v Speaker 2>heat signatures. And probably twenty five thirty yards from us

801
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.840
<v Speaker 2>was the woods got pretty dense heading to this old

802
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 2>logging road, and he walked right up to the edge

803
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 2>of the woods. Now this sucker is probably thirty yards

804
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 2>from us. He kind of stood there for a little

805
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:43.880
<v Speaker 2>bit and then he started pushing through the brush. You

806
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.039
<v Speaker 2>can hear him coming through the brush. I thought he

807
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.760
<v Speaker 2>was gonna come up and shake our hands. And he

808
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:54.239
<v Speaker 2>probably got ten yards, probably twenty yards from us, blazing

809
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:58.760
<v Speaker 2>white hot, and just like that, he disappeared. Two thermals

810
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:04.079
<v Speaker 2>and he disappeared completely off radar. Now I heard him

811
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:08.880
<v Speaker 2>come in there, I didn't hear him leave, but he

812
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.079
<v Speaker 2>shut down the thermal. I don't know how or you know,

813
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.960
<v Speaker 2>because we stood there, I mean hunger down there for

814
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:21.599
<v Speaker 2>a linked amount of time after he disappeared. Now how

815
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.840
<v Speaker 2>that happened, you know, that opened my mind to some

816
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:29.679
<v Speaker 2>possibilities of maybe going from the dimension dimension I don't know.

817
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see no porto or nothing like to ask,

818
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I can't say that, but I do know this. That

819
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:38.440
<v Speaker 2>thing was there and then he would and I heard

820
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:40.360
<v Speaker 2>him walk in, but I didn't hear him walk out,

821
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:50.559
<v Speaker 2>but he just flat disappeared. That's probably probably one of

822
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:54.599
<v Speaker 2>the top top ones that really, you know, baffled me.

823
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 2>It threw me off just and here's the deal, just

824
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 2>when I think I've got these critters it out, they'll

825
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:05.719
<v Speaker 2>throw me a curveball like that one. You know, most

826
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:07.719
<v Speaker 2>people go out there and they're just looking for big food. Oh,

827
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:13.159
<v Speaker 2>mister bigfoot, mister bigfood. You know, beating on trees doing

828
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:17.039
<v Speaker 2>some stuff. You know, it's like uh. And I think

829
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:19.320
<v Speaker 2>the reason most people don't see them is because they're

830
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.000
<v Speaker 2>in the trees. The best place to hide is up.

831
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many I've got film of thermal

832
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 2>of them being up in trees down on my research

833
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.119
<v Speaker 2>area and a new research area, but of mine's end

834
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 2>a video and he's like, hey man, there's Bigfoot's down here.

835
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.199
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'll be there next weekend. Boom. I

836
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.159
<v Speaker 2>took off out there and stayed out there by myself.

837
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I got a big ten on top of my truck.

838
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 2>So I went out there and camped out for three

839
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.159
<v Speaker 2>or four days. And I catch them in the trees,

840
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:52.679
<v Speaker 2>then catch them on the ground. They were up in

841
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 2>the trees, and I got thermal video of all that stuff.

842
00:49:56.679 --> 00:50:00.280
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, you tell of what it is. Because I

843
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.440
<v Speaker 2>went down there and took my boat. I got out

844
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:04.920
<v Speaker 2>on the water, set up some sound traps and all

845
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:09.440
<v Speaker 2>that kind of picture, camera camera traps and stuff. I

846
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 2>always put camera traps around or now I've got to

847
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:15.880
<v Speaker 2>where I put not video around my camp at nine.

848
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:17.239
<v Speaker 2>That's infra. Right.

849
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Did you just have something fly above your head in

850
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:22.280
<v Speaker 1>your room?

851
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Probably?

852
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, you don't have like a fan with something

853
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 1>hanging from it or anything that was weird. Okay. Yeah,

854
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:39.599
<v Speaker 1>you know you've been on these podcasts, you know, always happening. Yeah,

855
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:43.599
<v Speaker 1>that's fascinating. So when I went out to Oregon, that's

856
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:45.880
<v Speaker 1>what they told me too. They're like, you're not looking well.

857
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:49.559
<v Speaker 1>First they were like, you don't realize how tall eight

858
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:52.039
<v Speaker 1>to ten feet tall is. So they showed me on

859
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.559
<v Speaker 1>a tree and they're like, wow, that's way taller. And

860
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 1>then they're like, you need to look up in the

861
00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:59.199
<v Speaker 1>trees because, like you said, they usually are up in

862
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:01.679
<v Speaker 1>the trees and no one looks up. Everyone's looking down

863
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:08.400
<v Speaker 1>at the ground. So it's it's totally totally true the trees. Absolutely.

864
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:15.719
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned something that could make for an interesting conversation

865
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:19.280
<v Speaker 1>because I I have I think I might know what

866
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.599
<v Speaker 1>you're saying. But uh so you mentioned that you're unable

867
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.360
<v Speaker 1>to share about some things. Are there certain reasons that

868
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 1>you're unable to share about some things that are related

869
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:30.119
<v Speaker 1>to the Bigfoot?

870
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, there is. I'll talk to you about it, okay.

871
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:44.280
<v Speaker 1>But well, and I'm not saying to to to like

872
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:46.280
<v Speaker 1>throw out the stories that you don't want to share,

873
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:47.840
<v Speaker 1>because like I'm not going to push for that. But

874
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:53.760
<v Speaker 1>like I've noticed that sometimes with certain witnesses they are

875
00:51:53.880 --> 00:52:00.679
<v Speaker 1>maybe even told they can't you know, and so I

876
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly. Yeah, that could be a different conversation.

877
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Uh, some I know something I don't know that or

878
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:20.960
<v Speaker 2>how can I put it? Cryptid retrieval specialist and I'll

879
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:21.880
<v Speaker 2>leave it rapped here?

880
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow, you know you know that kind of person. Okay, yeah,

881
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:29.360
<v Speaker 1>we'll leave it there. I've had those conversations and they

882
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.360
<v Speaker 1>cannot get out there. I know exactly what kind of

883
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:34.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff you're talking about. Yeah, there's some I.

884
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Believe the real absolutely. I believe the government knows about them. Absolutely.

885
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, man, I've talked to current government employees

886
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:46.599
<v Speaker 1>that are like, maybe we'll talk in twenty years, you know.

887
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, way Trump's going He's going to release everything.

888
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, dude, I've been reaching out to. I'm not

889
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.679
<v Speaker 1>going to say actual names of government. There's a few

890
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.639
<v Speaker 1>that could kind of be on our side because they're

891
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.840
<v Speaker 1>on similar sides and we'll leave it there. And I'm like, dude,

892
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:10.440
<v Speaker 1>can you just like send them a note and be like, hey,

893
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:12.800
<v Speaker 1>just throw the bigfoot stuff in there too, man, Like,

894
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.119
<v Speaker 1>why not? If we're going to do the UFO stuff,

895
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:18.119
<v Speaker 1>it's time for the big stuff, so throw it in there.

896
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Are UFOs real, absolutely on.

897
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Per That's where we passed that for sure.

898
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I've had a few UFO encounters.

899
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh I bet, I mean once you get what

900
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>man I was. I just had my first like weird

901
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:39.639
<v Speaker 1>lights in the woods encounter in an area down Tennessee

902
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 1>afew a month or so ago, and that was the

903
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:46.679
<v Speaker 1>first time I ever experienced that but weird stuff. One

904
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:49.119
<v Speaker 1>thing I want to talk to you about, though, is

905
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 1>because I think it's very interesting, is what was the

906
00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:03.760
<v Speaker 1>first time you had some kind of communication with them?

907
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy?

908
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Or doesn't have to be the first time?

909
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:13.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I not ever encounter. Is there any communication?

910
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:15.920
<v Speaker 2>You know? I always talk to him when I hit

911
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 2>the woods, you know, especially down in my area where

912
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Big Eddie was, I let him know I was in

913
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the woods. And sometimes I'll get it, you know, kind

914
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 2>of got you know, I better get out of here.

915
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Do they have infer sound? Yeah, but I call it

916
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:37.800
<v Speaker 2>to ghiblis. It sounds like probably the best way I

917
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:43.920
<v Speaker 2>can describe it. It sounds like samuraized warriors arguing back

918
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and forth is what most of them have sound like. Now,

919
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:51.519
<v Speaker 2>some of them have not been all at vocal, maybe

920
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:55.320
<v Speaker 2>a whoop, you know, tree slap or something like that,

921
00:54:56.000 --> 00:55:04.639
<v Speaker 2>tree knock, But as far as talking to each other, yeah.

922
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.320
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like it's more like of putting your intention

923
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:12.679
<v Speaker 1>out there as you go to a certain area. And

924
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:16.119
<v Speaker 1>people would be surprised how many people do that and

925
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 1>aren't talking about it. And I don't know why they're

926
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:19.519
<v Speaker 1>not talking about it.

927
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:22.880
<v Speaker 2>This is why these things are so incredible. You know,

928
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:25.519
<v Speaker 2>I deer hunt down there because it's on my hunt

929
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:31.119
<v Speaker 2>leaes and there's been times that I took a deer

930
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and it's down in that area where I have all

931
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:40.199
<v Speaker 2>my encounters with these rascals, and I'll say, hey, got

932
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:43.199
<v Speaker 2>a deer over here. If y'all want me to leave

933
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:48.239
<v Speaker 2>behind quarter, just wrap on a tree. And I was

934
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:53.519
<v Speaker 2>floored the first time i'd heard that. So on, oh yes, sir,

935
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:56.599
<v Speaker 2>And so I cut one of the hind quarters off

936
00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:58.960
<v Speaker 2>and just left it laying there when I went back

937
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.119
<v Speaker 2>into my hunt and stand the next morning, because I

938
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:02.719
<v Speaker 2>like to get in my hunt and stand about an

939
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.119
<v Speaker 2>hour before daylight where I can get in there and

940
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.840
<v Speaker 2>get settled down. You know when that sun starts to

941
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:11.599
<v Speaker 2>come up. You know, that's when the animals are usually active.

942
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 2>And I looked over when when sun come up, and

943
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:17.639
<v Speaker 2>I can look over where I carried that deer. Because

944
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.199
<v Speaker 2>I only killed sixty yards for my stand, you know,

945
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:22.840
<v Speaker 2>the guts had been gone through. Not all the guts

946
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:28.119
<v Speaker 2>were gone, but the like the heart, the liver, kidneys.

947
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Because after my hunt was over, I went over and

948
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:32.280
<v Speaker 2>looked about lunchtime, I went over and look and see

949
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.719
<v Speaker 2>what I was missing. But that hind quarter was gone.

950
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:38.360
<v Speaker 2>And that's happened on several occasions. Yeah, I got a

951
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:40.480
<v Speaker 2>deer down here. You got me to leave you some

952
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:43.159
<v Speaker 2>haanng on that tree?

953
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:46.079
<v Speaker 1>How quick was the response?

954
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes quick? Sometimes not so quick?

955
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

956
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes sometimes I'll tell them, you know, got a deer down.

957
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:55.920
<v Speaker 2>When I'm standing at the deer and I'll start working

958
00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 2>on it, you know, gutting it out and stuff like that.

959
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Then I'll hear a tree bomp. But I tell them

960
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:10.079
<v Speaker 2>all I mean, I'm not saying they're my friends. But

961
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:15.639
<v Speaker 2>there has been communication back and forth, you know, especially

962
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:17.840
<v Speaker 2>and I talked my language. Hey, you want me to

963
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:19.719
<v Speaker 2>leave you some of this deer, I will. I'll cut

964
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.320
<v Speaker 2>you off hindcore. Just bang on a tree and let

965
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:25.079
<v Speaker 2>me know, right. And like I said, I was floored

966
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:28.239
<v Speaker 2>the first time, and I was like, Okay, as soon

967
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:30.320
<v Speaker 2>as I got done gutting it, I just took my knife,

968
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:32.559
<v Speaker 2>cut a hind quarter off and left it there. Like

969
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.199
<v Speaker 2>I said, the next day, when sun come up, I

970
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:37.159
<v Speaker 2>could see that hind quarter was gone. But when I

971
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:43.159
<v Speaker 2>walked over the heart, liver, kidneys, that stuff was gone, spleen,

972
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:49.960
<v Speaker 2>all the organs were gone, but the guts were still there. Wow.

973
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.360
<v Speaker 2>So can you interact with these things? Yeah?

974
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely absolutely, Oh no, no, you definitely can, more than

975
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:03.480
<v Speaker 1>people are willing to talk about it, I think. I mean,

976
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I've had a similar situation out in Oregon last year

977
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:09.400
<v Speaker 1>where just being out in the woods. Uh. There we

978
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:11.559
<v Speaker 1>were out the group and I was off a little

979
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:13.880
<v Speaker 1>bit and it's just like, hey, if you're here, can

980
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you make noise? And just like half second later it's

981
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:19.440
<v Speaker 1>like bam would knock, and then again another would knock,

982
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and I was like right, I'm going back. And I

983
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>always wondered, you know, if I had kept going in

984
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the woods, what would have happened. Who knows, But.

985
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of I have a tendency of I'm an

986
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:35.880
<v Speaker 2>adrenaline junkie, and I have a tendency of pushing the

987
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:40.400
<v Speaker 2>envelope just just far enough, you know. And they'll they

988
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:42.440
<v Speaker 2>always let me know when they don't want me around,

989
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, even when I've been with somebody it's like, hey,

990
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:49.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, me and a kid from Dallas they want

991
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:52.079
<v Speaker 2>We went on the bf R trip and we got

992
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:56.000
<v Speaker 2>all the way down on this logging road and me

993
00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:59.679
<v Speaker 2>and this young kid and were sitting there and I'm thermaling.

994
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I heard something, so I started thermaling. And he's got

995
00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:06.320
<v Speaker 2>night vision and he's looking night vision. Then all of

996
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:09.800
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, I was just kind of put my my

997
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:12.280
<v Speaker 2>deal down. I knew what there was one there, but

998
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see it yet. And he's got this night

999
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:22.440
<v Speaker 2>vision and he turns that night vision up and I

1000
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:24.760
<v Speaker 2>can see a beam of light coming out that rascal.

1001
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hey, what do you have? And he's like,

1002
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, turn that thing thing off. I said, just

1003
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:33.599
<v Speaker 2>turn it off. I said, you're giving away our position. Here,

1004
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:36.880
<v Speaker 2>here's my thermal. Look through my thermal. Of course, I'm

1005
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:39.679
<v Speaker 2>talking real softly to him. It's about two or three

1006
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:42.360
<v Speaker 2>o'clock in the morning. I find the best time to

1007
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:46.079
<v Speaker 2>interact with these things is between two and five thirty

1008
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:50.320
<v Speaker 2>am is the best time, especially when it's getting hot

1009
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 2>like this. You know they're gonna be they're gonna be

1010
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:57.000
<v Speaker 2>being down during the day. You know, they always have

1011
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:00.760
<v Speaker 2>a centurion. There's always a lookout. This thing is a

1012
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:06.039
<v Speaker 2>real military lie. But they'll bet down and they'll come

1013
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:06.519
<v Speaker 2>out at night.

1014
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with that one hundred percent.

1015
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:12.000
<v Speaker 2>They do.

1016
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:17.400
<v Speaker 1>There is we learned that in Tennessee. For sure. We

1017
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:20.519
<v Speaker 1>would always walk through center of the camp or side

1018
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:24.400
<v Speaker 1>of the camp with the most activity, and every time

1019
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:26.519
<v Speaker 1>we went into that part of the camp, there was

1020
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:31.599
<v Speaker 1>a single wood knock every time someone would and that

1021
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:34.719
<v Speaker 1>is the Tennessee cryptic camp out, which is a good

1022
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:35.880
<v Speaker 1>thing people should look into.

1023
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.679
<v Speaker 2>I find most people that I go with there and

1024
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:42.639
<v Speaker 2>they're they're they're looking for their band about at eleven o'clock.

1025
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:46.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, Okay, I'll see you in the morning. Okay,

1026
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go out here pass some funds.

1027
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:55.679
<v Speaker 1>So someone yourself, you have years and years of experience.

1028
01:00:56.360 --> 01:01:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's say you are going to your research area and

1029
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.239
<v Speaker 1>you've provided a little bit of this information already, but

1030
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.199
<v Speaker 1>what are the things that are are you an individual

1031
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.199
<v Speaker 1>where you get to the research area where you have

1032
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:14.880
<v Speaker 1>interaction and you're you're sitting there and waiting, or what

1033
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:16.960
<v Speaker 1>are things that you're you're doing once you get to

1034
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that area.

1035
01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I just piddle around, you know. I take soundtraps with me. Now.

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01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:27.599
<v Speaker 2>I have a vest that I wear sometimes if it's

1037
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:32.000
<v Speaker 2>a real high risk area, I'll put on my plate

1038
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:37.599
<v Speaker 2>carrier and my ballistic helmet, pop my four fifty eight

1039
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:42.199
<v Speaker 2>on my chest. That's just a you know, hostile areas,

1040
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and there are hostile areas, but some I just take

1041
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:51.719
<v Speaker 2>a small backpack. I put a I have a police

1042
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:54.960
<v Speaker 2>camera on my chest that is night vision, so I

1043
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:57.079
<v Speaker 2>put it on my chest and then I put one

1044
01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:59.639
<v Speaker 2>on the back of my backpack because you'd be surprised

1045
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:03.519
<v Speaker 2>what slips up behind you once you pass through. Oh yeah,

1046
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:06.280
<v Speaker 2>that are both infrared. They show about thirty feet in

1047
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:08.840
<v Speaker 2>front of me and thirty feet behind me. You know,

1048
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I always carry a camera up here, and then I

1049
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.079
<v Speaker 2>put a soundtrap on myself. You know, I load this

1050
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:18.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff and start this stuff with but you know, right

1051
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:20.519
<v Speaker 2>as I I mean, as soon as I get out

1052
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:22.320
<v Speaker 2>of the car, I put this stuff on, especially the

1053
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.639
<v Speaker 2>sound because I don't know how many times I've gotten it.

1054
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, drive down there and my pickup, and you know,

1055
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:30.920
<v Speaker 2>as soon as I get out of the truck, they're whooping,

1056
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:33.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, or something like that. You hear a tree

1057
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:37.000
<v Speaker 2>knock and you can't catch it because most people miss it.

1058
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Ninety percent of you know, bigfoot investigators miss it. So

1059
01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that's where I always carry a soundtrap. Then I have

1060
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:44.960
<v Speaker 2>soundtraps I put out in the woods in strategic areas

1061
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.559
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. But I just get out there and peddle around.

1062
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:50.239
<v Speaker 2>You know. Sometimes I'll just sit down next to the creek,

1063
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:53.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of talk to myself, sing a little bit.

1064
01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I can't hold a tune in the bucket, but I

1065
01:02:56.639 --> 01:03:02.159
<v Speaker 2>find these things particularly they love southern rock music.

1066
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:03.280
<v Speaker 1>No wow.

1067
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'll you know, take my bluetooth speakers, set it

1068
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:09.719
<v Speaker 2>next to me and put on some Southern rock and

1069
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:12.960
<v Speaker 2>uh that's what they when they revealed their selves, all

1070
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:15.679
<v Speaker 2>five of them. That's what I was doing down by

1071
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:19.679
<v Speaker 2>the river. I was fishing that night, and had they sounded.

1072
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.239
<v Speaker 2>They started calling like alice, but you could tell it

1073
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:26.159
<v Speaker 2>what't no? What? No? Who now? And one was like

1074
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:29.079
<v Speaker 2>three hundred yards this way. When I first heard it,

1075
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, now I've got my German shepherd with me.

1076
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:34.679
<v Speaker 2>I got and I have one now that take with me.

1077
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:37.400
<v Speaker 2>She passed. She was she was a good squatch dog,

1078
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:40.239
<v Speaker 2>probably the best squatch dog ever had. Now what she

1079
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:42.280
<v Speaker 2>would do when they get close. She wouldn't lean. Her

1080
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:45.760
<v Speaker 2>name was Christian. She would lean up against me, you know,

1081
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.159
<v Speaker 2>because she could send them before I could sense them.

1082
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:51.760
<v Speaker 2>And of course she'd go on point, you know, she

1083
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:55.840
<v Speaker 2>would look around radar and she would ping where they

1084
01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:57.920
<v Speaker 2>were at, where they were at, So I would start

1085
01:03:57.960 --> 01:03:59.880
<v Speaker 2>looking in that area, whether it be they or not.

1086
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:03.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, a thurble at night, you know, use binoculars

1087
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:07.320
<v Speaker 2>there today, and you know, should put me on point.

1088
01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:10.599
<v Speaker 2>But and then there was another hootout that hollered back here,

1089
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:15.199
<v Speaker 2>probably one hundred yards, and they went back and forth.

1090
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:19.639
<v Speaker 2>And then a little bit later there's another hoodout way

1091
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:22.519
<v Speaker 2>over here, and then there's one over here across on

1092
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:25.920
<v Speaker 2>my side, way down the river. And then there's one

1093
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:27.960
<v Speaker 2>over here on the other side of the river, way back,

1094
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:31.400
<v Speaker 2>well before the night was over. It's probably about three

1095
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:35.639
<v Speaker 2>four o'clock in the morning, you know. I use another

1096
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:39.000
<v Speaker 2>thing I would advise people use red lights. Don't use

1097
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:43.760
<v Speaker 2>white lights. I have found in my experience, and I

1098
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.920
<v Speaker 2>used white lights for a long time, but I find

1099
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:50.280
<v Speaker 2>once you hit them with that, they'll either close their

1100
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:54.199
<v Speaker 2>eyes or they'll retreat. With a white light, I really

1101
01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:57.039
<v Speaker 2>feel it hurts their eyes. But the red light, I

1102
01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:01.719
<v Speaker 2>never shine any light in their face at all. What

1103
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I do is I scan with my red light. I

1104
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:08.719
<v Speaker 2>got a red light up here. I can scan with

1105
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:11.679
<v Speaker 2>my red lights and then when I see eye shine,

1106
01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I'll come back over here and set over here for

1107
01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:16.559
<v Speaker 2>just a little bit. And then when I scan, I'm

1108
01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:20.199
<v Speaker 2>more closer to the ground than I am where they're at.

1109
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:24.159
<v Speaker 2>And I find using that red light, they don't retreat

1110
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:27.159
<v Speaker 2>near as fast. I mean, I've had one stand there

1111
01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:30.400
<v Speaker 2>and iron we just had a stare off, you know,

1112
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night. But that night on

1113
01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:34.519
<v Speaker 2>the river, I had five of them all around me

1114
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:36.880
<v Speaker 2>because I can see the eye shine because I scanned

1115
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:39.440
<v Speaker 2>over here. Boom, there's a set of eyes there's a

1116
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:43.159
<v Speaker 2>set of eyes over here. Now, it wasn't no owls,

1117
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:46.280
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't no farming or nothing like that. I mean

1118
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:48.639
<v Speaker 2>their eyes are about that big around you can definitely

1119
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:51.360
<v Speaker 2>tell squatch, you know. I've got five of them around,

1120
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:52.880
<v Speaker 2>three on this side of the river and two on

1121
01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:55.440
<v Speaker 2>this side of the river. And one of them boogered

1122
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.079
<v Speaker 2>up my Germany shepherd when he got too close. Now

1123
01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:01.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm setting the the banks are up here, and then

1124
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the river comes down like this, and then it comes

1125
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:06.679
<v Speaker 2>up there in the day and goes down at night.

1126
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:10.199
<v Speaker 2>So I'm down there at night. And the one on

1127
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:12.519
<v Speaker 2>this side that got real close, I could hear him.

1128
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:16.159
<v Speaker 2>I could hear him, actually hear him walking coming up close.

1129
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:20.280
<v Speaker 2>And in my first thinking, you know, from training and everything,

1130
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a ambush spot. This is not good. And

1131
01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:28.159
<v Speaker 2>my dog fired off, I mean hair on from the

1132
01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:30.440
<v Speaker 2>tip of her nose to the timple of her tails.

1133
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Man just shot straight up and I'm like, okay, she's

1134
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:36.000
<v Speaker 2>laying it real hard into my leg. There's one real

1135
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:42.239
<v Speaker 2>close and he he he huffed. Have you ever heard

1136
01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:44.840
<v Speaker 2>one huff a bigfoot?

1137
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've got I'm pretty sure I've got one recorded

1138
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:52.760
<v Speaker 1>on video, and we didn't see.

1139
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:55.519
<v Speaker 2>It because that was another form of communication. They yes,

1140
01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:59.320
<v Speaker 2>often it's a huff. What I call a huff's I

1141
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.760
<v Speaker 2>can identify. So he huffed a couple of times, and

1142
01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:05.159
<v Speaker 2>then he grabbed a tree that was probably ten inches

1143
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:09.639
<v Speaker 2>around and shook that tree like it was nothing, like

1144
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:14.000
<v Speaker 2>it was just a bush. It was like ned shake

1145
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:16.280
<v Speaker 2>it a little bit more. Of course, my Germany shepherd's

1146
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:18.440
<v Speaker 2>about to lose her mind by that time. I got

1147
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.440
<v Speaker 2>her own lace where she can't run off. And there's

1148
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:24.559
<v Speaker 2>another thing, you know. They would always call my dog

1149
01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:29.159
<v Speaker 2>to the woods. I don't know why, but I would

1150
01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:31.119
<v Speaker 2>have to make her come out and say, now, I

1151
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:34.440
<v Speaker 2>couldn't hear it vocally, I mean in my ears, I couldn't.

1152
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:37.159
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't hear it. But she would perk up and

1153
01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:39.000
<v Speaker 2>then she just start heading toward the woods and i'd

1154
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:41.079
<v Speaker 2>have to pull her back. No, no, no, you don't

1155
01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:43.199
<v Speaker 2>need to be around those guys. I knew what was

1156
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:46.079
<v Speaker 2>taking place, but they would always call her, and she

1157
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:48.639
<v Speaker 2>would always I mean, if she'd have want in the woods,

1158
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:50.559
<v Speaker 2>she'd I don't know if they I don't think they

1159
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:54.119
<v Speaker 2>would have heard her. But I don't know that for sure,

1160
01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:58.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've heard them killing animals before, but you know,

1161
01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:01.800
<v Speaker 2>calves and stuff like that. But yeah, I's spent a

1162
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:05.840
<v Speaker 2>crazy ride, especially since since I went public, and it

1163
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:09.960
<v Speaker 2>just like man, it's just like wow. And here's the

1164
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.880
<v Speaker 2>cool thing about it is is, you know, looking at

1165
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:20.920
<v Speaker 2>this in my faith is God has given me a

1166
01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:26.479
<v Speaker 2>platform to speak to a lot of people who are unchurched,

1167
01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:35.520
<v Speaker 2>have different beliefs than me. But within my talks, I

1168
01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:40.840
<v Speaker 2>always go to my faith and I'm able to plug Jesus.

1169
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm able to plug times running out. So God has

1170
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:50.520
<v Speaker 2>given me an awesome, awesome platform to speak to all

1171
01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:53.760
<v Speaker 2>kinds of people, not only about Bigfoot, but about Jesus,

1172
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:56.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, and that's what I'm ab to do, tell

1173
01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:58.760
<v Speaker 2>people about Jesus. So if I can mix the two up,

1174
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:02.159
<v Speaker 2>bring people to Christ or encouraged their faith bless God,

1175
01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:02.840
<v Speaker 2>let's get it.

1176
01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Out, that's fantastic. So, and to make that really clear,

1177
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:11.319
<v Speaker 1>so' and you're not just talking about because some people

1178
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:14.680
<v Speaker 1>when they hear that on this show, they're probably like, oh, well,

1179
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:17.640
<v Speaker 1>it's because he's talking about like maybe some people using

1180
01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:19.479
<v Speaker 1>the name of Jesus and getting the big Foot out

1181
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:22.119
<v Speaker 1>of there. But you're saying, even maybe going deeper than

1182
01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that and talking, I'm guessing things like the gospel and

1183
01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:27.159
<v Speaker 1>and things like that.

1184
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Usually, when I start a talk in a area that

1185
01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I've been invited to to speak, I did this once

1186
01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:39.720
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna get back to it. But I pulled

1187
01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:47.960
<v Speaker 2>up four volunteers and settlement chairs. Then I explain, try

1188
01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:53.359
<v Speaker 2>to explain to the people that most bigfoot signings are

1189
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:57.239
<v Speaker 2>three to five seconds. You know, people always say the

1190
01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:59.560
<v Speaker 2>biggest thing I read, well, you know, all you guys,

1191
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:02.880
<v Speaker 2>fuzzy pictures, all you gots this, this and this, and

1192
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:06.840
<v Speaker 2>so I break that down to an encounter to the

1193
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:11.199
<v Speaker 2>average person, most you know, statistically speaking, is three to

1194
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:15.800
<v Speaker 2>five minutes. On an encounter. Number one, your mind is

1195
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:20.399
<v Speaker 2>trying to register and put this thing in to perspective.

1196
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:24.119
<v Speaker 2>What is this because that should not that. I that

1197
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:27.520
<v Speaker 2>ain't supposed to be there. You know, I've heard about it,

1198
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.159
<v Speaker 2>but that is not supposed to be there. And then

1199
01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I go to him and I'm like, you know this

1200
01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:38.319
<v Speaker 2>person over here, you know she's petrified. You know this

1201
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:40.520
<v Speaker 2>guy over here on this end, he has tickled to

1202
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:43.800
<v Speaker 2>death that he's just saw something that he's always heard

1203
01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:47.680
<v Speaker 2>about and talk about the different types of sightings and

1204
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:50.560
<v Speaker 2>how it affects people. You know, this guy over here's

1205
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:52.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna be traumatized the rest of his life because of

1206
01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:56.119
<v Speaker 2>this encounter. But yes, this guy's over here is you know,

1207
01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:59.840
<v Speaker 2>singing Hallelujah, and I'll tell him, you know, it's it's

1208
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:04.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why people can't believe in this because

1209
01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:09.279
<v Speaker 2>it's so simple. You know, take the Bible for instance. Okay,

1210
01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:14.000
<v Speaker 2>let's just take the Gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

1211
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:16.279
<v Speaker 2>I thought there was a ringo for a long time,

1212
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:19.640
<v Speaker 2>but I never could find it maybe at a blographer,

1213
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:26.039
<v Speaker 2>but I Ethiopian Bible. But but you have four people

1214
01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:34.960
<v Speaker 2>with I witness to Jesus. Three of them spent three

1215
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:38.159
<v Speaker 2>and a half years with him. The doctor Luke, you know,

1216
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:43.520
<v Speaker 2>was there also. But you got three detailed accounts with

1217
01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:48.399
<v Speaker 2>three different or four different perspectives of that account. But

1218
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:52.439
<v Speaker 2>yet we believe those accounts by the history because it's

1219
01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:56.359
<v Speaker 2>written down in book. So we've got the history. Not

1220
01:11:56.439 --> 01:11:58.960
<v Speaker 2>only do we have the history, then we move into

1221
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.640
<v Speaker 2>the the New Testament and we find the things that

1222
01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Jesus practiced while he was here on earth. We believe

1223
01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:09.199
<v Speaker 2>all that it takes faith to believe in all that.

1224
01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:13.560
<v Speaker 2>And then you look at the Bigfoot world and we

1225
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:17.880
<v Speaker 2>have thousands of videos, we have thousands of people all

1226
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:21.880
<v Speaker 2>over the world talking about this, just like the Gospel,

1227
01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:27.000
<v Speaker 2>and people are having different accounts. It affects them differently.

1228
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:29.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, this person over here in this chair, they

1229
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:33.880
<v Speaker 2>saw they ident on the on the shoulders, and this

1230
01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:36.159
<v Speaker 2>one over here they ident on the eyes. You know,

1231
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:39.319
<v Speaker 2>they homed in on those eyes. They remember those eyes,

1232
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:41.399
<v Speaker 2>and not so much over here. And then this guy

1233
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:43.279
<v Speaker 2>over here, you know, he sees the whole thing and

1234
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:47.039
<v Speaker 2>he's just tickled to death that he hadn't encounter, you know,

1235
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:50.279
<v Speaker 2>after looking for these suckers all the time. So why

1236
01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:53.560
<v Speaker 2>is it so hard? We can take the Bible, and

1237
01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm one of those guys as hardcore Bible. I believe

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01:12:56.079 --> 01:13:01.079
<v Speaker 2>everything in the Bible is inspired by my mat and

1239
01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:08.920
<v Speaker 2>we take that on faith that this is true. But

1240
01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:11.600
<v Speaker 2>the same in the Bigfoot world. We've got thousands of videos,

1241
01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:14.600
<v Speaker 2>We've got thousands recorded, got thousands of books on it

1242
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.960
<v Speaker 2>of the same cotton picking thing, maybe just different size,

1243
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:21.680
<v Speaker 2>different colors, and different parts of the world. Why do

1244
01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:29.319
<v Speaker 2>we think that's foolish? When there's history that makes I think.

1245
01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:35.159
<v Speaker 2>The first encounter that happened here in Arkansas was over

1246
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:40.640
<v Speaker 2>by Memphis, and it was eighteen forty eighteen. The first

1247
01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:43.359
<v Speaker 2>documented sighting of a wild man, that's what they called

1248
01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:48.479
<v Speaker 2>them way back then, was wildman. You know how I mean,

1249
01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:52.880
<v Speaker 2>don't close your mind off to this, because this is

1250
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:57.359
<v Speaker 2>very very true. Now, I think the bigfoots. You know.

1251
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Of course everybody thinks there's all this. Only the only

1252
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:03.760
<v Speaker 2>thing I can think is what I have encountered, what

1253
01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I've experienced myself. Some are good, some are bad, you know,

1254
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and some are are in between. There's some short or

1255
01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:16.239
<v Speaker 2>some fat. There's some I've never seen, not a real

1256
01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:19.520
<v Speaker 2>ball headed one, you know. I've seen round heads like this.

1257
01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I've seen cone heads. I've seen protruded here. I've seen

1258
01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:27.600
<v Speaker 2>them with canines without canines. Now I have found this

1259
01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:32.000
<v Speaker 2>very interesting. The ones that I have experienced that were

1260
01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:38.159
<v Speaker 2>most hostile were the ones with canines. Oh wow, every time,

1261
01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:41.760
<v Speaker 2>which I believe the one with the square teeth. Now,

1262
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:44.720
<v Speaker 2>this is just my thinking. I could be wrong. If

1263
01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm wrong, I'm mad enough to apologize that I was wrong.

1264
01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:51.960
<v Speaker 2>But I think that the one with the square teeth

1265
01:14:52.560 --> 01:14:56.560
<v Speaker 2>like the big buck horse teeth. Top ones are more docile,

1266
01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:59.880
<v Speaker 2>and I believe they're more vegetarian with the one in

1267
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:04.560
<v Speaker 2>canines are more of meat eaters and a little bit

1268
01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:05.399
<v Speaker 2>more hostile.

1269
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's extremely interesting.

1270
01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Which is crazy. All I know is what I've seen

1271
01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:15.279
<v Speaker 2>and heard.

1272
01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Bigfoot communities is over. The whole subject is

1273
01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:26.439
<v Speaker 1>so interesting because it's like you have a lot of

1274
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:32.000
<v Speaker 1>inherited information. But then I mean, you have individuals like

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01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:37.640
<v Speaker 1>yourself actually getting out there and is there something that

1276
01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:41.199
<v Speaker 1>you have learned from interactions over the years that you

1277
01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:46.720
<v Speaker 1>wish the community knew about Bigfoot that they might not

1278
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:47.520
<v Speaker 1>necessarily know.

1279
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, that was a tough one.

1280
01:15:54.359 --> 01:16:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I've never thought of that. Expect the unexpected, I guess

1281
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:05.880
<v Speaker 2>would be the first thing. You know, never go in

1282
01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:08.479
<v Speaker 2>the woods on arm. Don't ever going on the expedition.

1283
01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:14.199
<v Speaker 2>And now now I'm not saying every Tom, Dick and

1284
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Harriet should be out there with a gun because some

1285
01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:19.520
<v Speaker 2>people don't know how to. You know, when we go

1286
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:23.680
<v Speaker 2>on investigations, I carry a long gun in my head

1287
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:25.920
<v Speaker 2>of security. I have a head of security. He's a

1288
01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:28.479
<v Speaker 2>Marine Corps infantry guy. He knows how to have an

1289
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:31.960
<v Speaker 2>old weapon. Also, I have a Marine Corps frontline medic

1290
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:34.520
<v Speaker 2>that's on my team as well, and of course K

1291
01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:38.279
<v Speaker 2>which you've been interacting with talking with. These are my

1292
01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:42.239
<v Speaker 2>four main characters within our expedition, you know. So I

1293
01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.479
<v Speaker 2>have a field medic that if anything goes to the rise,

1294
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:49.960
<v Speaker 2>somebody you know, stumbles, you know, breaks their ankle or

1295
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:52.560
<v Speaker 2>something springs their ankle or something like that, we have

1296
01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:58.920
<v Speaker 2>medical on staff that can help. In my head of security,

1297
01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:02.560
<v Speaker 2>his head is always the squivel, you know. But our expeditions,

1298
01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I prefer people if they know and this is something

1299
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:09.359
<v Speaker 2>that they have to talk to me personally. I want

1300
01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:11.199
<v Speaker 2>to know if they can handle that weapon. But I

1301
01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:14.920
<v Speaker 2>prefer everybody at least carry a handgun on their side.

1302
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:18.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, don't shoot unless I tell you to shoot.

1303
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:24.479
<v Speaker 2>And we've never had while we've been out with people. Well,

1304
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, everybody wants see a big foot till the

1305
01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:28.600
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot shows up some people.

1306
01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Right and I'm there myself, like I haven't had a

1307
01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:34.920
<v Speaker 1>visual yet, and I don't know how I've responded to either.

1308
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:36.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like you never know, right.

1309
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, just just you know, there's nothing that our God

1310
01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:43.720
<v Speaker 2>can't do my friend, that's true. Next time he's no woods.

1311
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:45.079
<v Speaker 2>And I do this a lot. I talk to my

1312
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:47.119
<v Speaker 2>God a lot, and I'll just say, hey, God, I

1313
01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:49.960
<v Speaker 2>like having encounter today. So I'm going down here in

1314
01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:52.640
<v Speaker 2>these woods here, and they't never been down here, or

1315
01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:55.239
<v Speaker 2>I have been down there. I liked having encounter on

1316
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:59.119
<v Speaker 2>these rascals. You know. I find these rascals are more

1317
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:05.920
<v Speaker 2>docile than the dog man. The dog man, them things

1318
01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:09.279
<v Speaker 2>are off the chain. But you're talking about make your

1319
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:12.680
<v Speaker 2>heart beat fast. That's a whole different animal, right there,

1320
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:17.640
<v Speaker 2>A whole different cookie, but a lot different than the

1321
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:21.079
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot world. I've only run into to a few to

1322
01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:23.600
<v Speaker 2>a few. Matter of fact, I got one on camera

1323
01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:27.680
<v Speaker 2>looking at me. He's kind of crouched down. He's looking

1324
01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:30.640
<v Speaker 2>at me through a bunch of weeds sticking up and stuff.

1325
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:33.880
<v Speaker 2>But you can tell you can't see his face per se,

1326
01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:37.720
<v Speaker 2>but you can see the image with the canine ears

1327
01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:41.359
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Yeah, and that wouldn't know, wouldn't no bear,

1328
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:46.960
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't no dog, with no coyote. He just sat there

1329
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:48.680
<v Speaker 2>and growled at me. And that's when I'm backed down

1330
01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:53.079
<v Speaker 2>the wood and I was pound Lord Jesus Now you

1331
01:18:53.159 --> 01:18:55.479
<v Speaker 2>got to keep this risk off of me. Now I'm

1332
01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:56.880
<v Speaker 2>back down the woods real quick.

1333
01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:00.920
<v Speaker 1>That the dog Man's man. That's stuff I try to

1334
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I have no desire to get involved with anything like that,

1335
01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:08.399
<v Speaker 1>And I mean it could happen though if I If

1336
01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:12.119
<v Speaker 1>you go into areas like that, sometimes they just you've

1337
01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:13.880
<v Speaker 1>got big foot in dog Man and they kind of

1338
01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:16.119
<v Speaker 1>are in similar areas. And that's just the thing you

1339
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:19.479
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with. But so you have an entire team,

1340
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:23.359
<v Speaker 1>that's really interesting. Is it a thing where you're just

1341
01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:26.760
<v Speaker 1>going out with that team or is there times where

1342
01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:30.159
<v Speaker 1>you're taking people out there in addition to the team

1343
01:19:30.359 --> 01:19:31.680
<v Speaker 1>or both.

1344
01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:34.920
<v Speaker 2>We set up expeditions. We do one in the spring,

1345
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:37.880
<v Speaker 2>one in the fall, and we're thinking about at a

1346
01:19:37.920 --> 01:19:40.920
<v Speaker 2>third one. I don't know where we're going. Usually we

1347
01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:43.840
<v Speaker 2>go out on New Year's Eve that might end up

1348
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:47.359
<v Speaker 2>being the third one and stand out in the woods. Now,

1349
01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:49.840
<v Speaker 2>we have a lot of people who contact us that

1350
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:53.239
<v Speaker 2>want us to come out and investigate their land. Now,

1351
01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:56.880
<v Speaker 2>if we're doing an investigation like that, then it's usually

1352
01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:04.319
<v Speaker 2>me Ka, my head of security and his wife and

1353
01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the medic and his wife go out there, you know,

1354
01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's private investigation. So you know, we don't give

1355
01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:14.479
<v Speaker 2>any locations out or anything. We just go out there

1356
01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:17.119
<v Speaker 2>and see if we can, uh you know, cause a

1357
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:23.039
<v Speaker 2>response or an encounter. Because the land landowners, like some

1358
01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:28.319
<v Speaker 2>of them, how do I say this, Some of them

1359
01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:32.680
<v Speaker 2>are quite scared and oh yeah, they just want it gone.

1360
01:20:34.039 --> 01:20:40.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's I don't think people so yeah, man, I

1361
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:44.640
<v Speaker 1>wish I wish listeners understood that too, because or they

1362
01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:48.600
<v Speaker 1>might all understand it. But a lot of stuff where

1363
01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:51.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to people doesn't even make it to the show.

1364
01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:53.439
<v Speaker 1>And it's just me talking to people like I don't

1365
01:20:53.439 --> 01:20:55.159
<v Speaker 1>know what to do on freaked out and they're just

1366
01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:57.680
<v Speaker 1>freaked out of their mind. And that's that's understandable because

1367
01:20:57.680 --> 01:21:00.279
<v Speaker 1>they got someone something beaten on their house. Us are

1368
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:03.079
<v Speaker 1>trying to get inside, and it's just things can get

1369
01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:05.239
<v Speaker 1>really really scary really quick.

1370
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:09.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, Oh it can't it can these critters. I mean,

1371
01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I've I've been challenged a lot over my life where

1372
01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:21.800
<v Speaker 2>they be man or beast and uh uh and some

1373
01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:29.399
<v Speaker 2>of it is real challenged, but in every every every

1374
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:33.760
<v Speaker 2>encounter is excitable. You know, some if I get the

1375
01:21:34.119 --> 01:21:40.000
<v Speaker 2>overwhelming fear or dread, you know, I'm very cautious on

1376
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.600
<v Speaker 2>that one too, But like when I was a twelve

1377
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:45.800
<v Speaker 2>year old kid, you know, I freak plumb out, you

1378
01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:48.159
<v Speaker 2>know with that one. And that's generally what people do

1379
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:52.039
<v Speaker 2>when they're coming up slapping their house, you know, they

1380
01:21:52.119 --> 01:21:58.279
<v Speaker 2>got chickens, come up missing, goats, you know, cats, dogs,

1381
01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:01.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, come up missing, and then they call us

1382
01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:03.680
<v Speaker 2>out and we'll go out there and take a look around,

1383
01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:06.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, investigate your property, and then we set up

1384
01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:09.960
<v Speaker 2>if we need to go back, you know, after we

1385
01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:14.079
<v Speaker 2>leave the property, if the landowner still has problems, then

1386
01:22:14.119 --> 01:22:18.479
<v Speaker 2>we'll we'll go back out there and help you with

1387
01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:19.319
<v Speaker 2>the problem.

1388
01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:25.119
<v Speaker 1>That's really cool, super David. This has been a fantastic conversation.

1389
01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my goodness, I know you are starting to

1390
01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:31.399
<v Speaker 1>come out starting to write a book right now, is

1391
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:31.720
<v Speaker 1>that right?

1392
01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, they get that thing finished. We found

1393
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:39.640
<v Speaker 2>a publisher, which was they contacted us, so that was cool,

1394
01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:41.239
<v Speaker 2>fair enough.

1395
01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we'll be looking forward to that and let

1396
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:49.520
<v Speaker 1>us know when that is out. I'm sure you'll reach

1397
01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:51.720
<v Speaker 1>out and then we can get the word out about that.

1398
01:22:51.800 --> 01:22:54.560
<v Speaker 1>But do you mind taking a few minutes. You know,

1399
01:22:56.279 --> 01:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of curious, you know, how people could reach

1400
01:22:59.800 --> 01:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>out to you maybe if they're you know, curious about

1401
01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>like expeditions, or if they want you to check out

1402
01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:10.359
<v Speaker 1>their property, or just how where they can hear you

1403
01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:12.479
<v Speaker 1>speak any any type of information.

1404
01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course there's always Facebook aka Sasquatch. They can

1405
01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:22.960
<v Speaker 2>get me on on Facebook by either putting an aka

1406
01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch or super Dave. They'll see my picture YouTube, same

1407
01:23:28.279 --> 01:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>thing a k just do a search for a Ka

1408
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Sasquatchuh'll take them to our YouTube page. And then we're

1409
01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:39.159
<v Speaker 2>constantly or I'm not k is. She constantly puts out

1410
01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:42.640
<v Speaker 2>videos and puts out on the page and stuff. And

1411
01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:45.439
<v Speaker 2>what people do is they it's like we got a

1412
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Fall one coming up, and I haven't decided yet where

1413
01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:51.159
<v Speaker 2>we're going to, where we're going to have the Fall expedition.

1414
01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:56.479
<v Speaker 2>You know, we've already got people signed up for that. Genterally,

1415
01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.399
<v Speaker 2>what they do is they can either read shot on

1416
01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:07.159
<v Speaker 2>one of these pages and DM like Ka has control

1417
01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:10.760
<v Speaker 2>over all these because she answers all the questions and stuff.

1418
01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I'm just real, real busy doing other things

1419
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:17.359
<v Speaker 2>and she's real good at that. So they can send

1420
01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:20.680
<v Speaker 2>their email and we can get them on a mailing list,

1421
01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:23.359
<v Speaker 2>and we don't push, no spam, We don't ask for

1422
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:26.720
<v Speaker 2>money or anything like that. It just lets them know

1423
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:32.560
<v Speaker 2>where I'll be speaking, how the book's coming, when the

1424
01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:37.199
<v Speaker 2>next expedition is coming up, you know, whatever I'm doing.

1425
01:24:37.279 --> 01:24:40.319
<v Speaker 2>She puts out there and you can get You can

1426
01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:43.520
<v Speaker 2>find her on k leaves. That's like a g with

1427
01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:46.439
<v Speaker 2>leaves at the end. You can look up her page

1428
01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:49.720
<v Speaker 2>and contact her personally because she handles all that stuff,

1429
01:24:52.039 --> 01:24:54.199
<v Speaker 2>so I'm easy to find.

1430
01:24:56.199 --> 01:25:01.079
<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic and I'm sure h it sounds like maybe

1431
01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>in the future he might you know, be releasing video.

1432
01:25:06.359 --> 01:25:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Uh maybe maybe not, but that would be a thing

1433
01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:13.239
<v Speaker 1>where you would you would know, make sure you're following

1434
01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>social media pages, but definitely familing.

1435
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:20.520
<v Speaker 2>With so especially my YouTube page. I've got I've got

1436
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:23.079
<v Speaker 2>a live time of stuff that I ain't even got,

1437
01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:27.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've got uh what's that camera Portland World camera?

1438
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, pictures the first instant camera to ever come out.

1439
01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:35.439
<v Speaker 2>You know. Uh, there's just a ton of stuff that

1440
01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I haven't put out. Of course, I just come clean

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<v Speaker 2>with it, you know, I just come out of the closet,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak. You know about my big foot encounters

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01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and everything. Uh. And that's the hardest part is you know,

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01:25:46.800 --> 01:25:49.800
<v Speaker 2>doing the podcast, doing the speaking, going out there and

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01:25:49.840 --> 01:25:53.399
<v Speaker 2>doing the boots to the ground. I enjoy all that

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01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:56.880
<v Speaker 2>so much, but when you get back, you've got you know,

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01:25:57.079 --> 01:25:59.600
<v Speaker 2>usually I set out five soundtraps and I wear one

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<v Speaker 2>on my f you know, I got camera traps set

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<v Speaker 2>out everywhere. I've got audio video and all this stuff

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01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:08.159
<v Speaker 2>has to be brought into a file and then you

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01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:10.920
<v Speaker 2>have to go through filter all this stuff. It's crazy

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01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:14.159
<v Speaker 2>and clip out what you want. It takes hours to

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01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:16.840
<v Speaker 2>put that stuff together. That's where I'm finding and the

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01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:19.680
<v Speaker 2>hardest part of this stuff is is being able to

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<v Speaker 2>having the time to do all that.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is. You almost need like someone that has

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<v Speaker 1>all your knowledge and can look through all the stuff

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01:26:29.199 --> 01:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that you because it takes so long to go through audio.

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<v Speaker 1>That gets me too, it's just right.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've got to bring somebody to come along on

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01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the team that can be like a media specialist to

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01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:41.920
<v Speaker 2>put all that stuff together. Yeah, CA's real good about

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01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:44.840
<v Speaker 2>putting videos together and stuff. We don't know too much

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01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:47.600
<v Speaker 2>about YouTube and whatnot. We've got to figure out how

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01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:49.840
<v Speaker 2>to connect them all together. And we post on one

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01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:52.079
<v Speaker 2>post on all. I mean, there's a lot of ins

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01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:54.239
<v Speaker 2>and outs we still got to figure out, you know,

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01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:55.920
<v Speaker 2>but we're new to the game.

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01:26:56.239 --> 01:27:00.479
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's a learning it's a learning process for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, super Dave aka Sasquatch, what a fun conversation

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01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:09.479
<v Speaker 1>you have been through one side to the other. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll definitely be falling along to see you know when

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01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>your book comes out and to see where you go next.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much for hanging out on the

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<v Speaker 1>show today with me.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet the title of that book would be Sasquatch

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01:27:25.319 --> 01:27:29.840
<v Speaker 2>in your Face by the Bigfoot Preacher Awesome aka Sasquatch

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01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:35.720
<v Speaker 2>my closest encounter I ever had. Good another one, well,

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<v Speaker 2>cool man, I appreciate you having me on your channel.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

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<v Speaker 1>directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

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01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:53.279
<v Speaker 1>seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

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01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

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01:27:56.600 --> 01:28:00.079
<v Speaker 1>to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something

1486
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:03.039
<v Speaker 1>strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

1487
01:28:03.159 --> 01:28:07.039
<v Speaker 1>FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled

1488
01:28:07.119 --> 01:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

1490
01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If

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01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:20.880
<v Speaker 1>you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1492
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:24.039
<v Speaker 1>or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1493
01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1494
01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:31.439
<v Speaker 1>a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1495
01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

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01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:41.359
<v Speaker 1>spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1498
01:28:42.039 --> 01:28:45.159
<v Speaker 1>or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

1499
01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

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<v Speaker 1>then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

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01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

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01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:20.319
<v Speaker 1>bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1508
01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:23.199
<v Speaker 1>is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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<v Speaker 1>please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

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<v Speaker 1>at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check

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<v Speaker 1>out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society

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<v Speaker 1>episode today early in ad free and members only episodes

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<v Speaker 1>every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other

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01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:13.479
<v Speaker 1>people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

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01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot Society.

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<v Speaker 1>Until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

1527
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<v Speaker 1>and never stop asking what else might be out there

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<v Speaker 1>and see you in the woods.