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Speaker 4: Welcome in.

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Speaker 3: Mark Durant, the best color commentator, the best Twitter x

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follow on social media.

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Speaker 4: How the heck are you? Mark?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Ben. I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: I may or may not have just played nine holes

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of golf in this beautiful, crazy weather, So I'm a

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happy man. I don't know what I've ever played golf

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this late in the winter in my life.

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Speaker 4: It is pretty crazy. What's happening in Utah right now?

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With the weather.

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Speaker 3: Typically we're we're in the thick of the snow right

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making snow angels, and it's it's freezing cold.

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Speaker 4: What's happening in the Utah? You've been here for a

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long time?

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Speaker 2: Well, listen I know we need moisture and snow and

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all that, but uh, if we're not going to have it,

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I'm gonna enjoy it. And if Salt Lake becomes the

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new Saint George, then that's probably okay with me because

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I want to move to Saint George. Anyway, I will

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save me moving.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, where'd you go?

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Speaker 1: By the way?

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Speaker 2: Uh, I went out to Glenmore. We love it out

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at Glenmore. Darcy Olsen is the.

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Speaker 1: Pro out there. It's a great place.

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Speaker 2: They got a great youth program. As you know, my

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daughter plays. So my daughter whoopded me today. But I'm

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getting used to that.

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Speaker 4: Hey it's okay.

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Speaker 3: Hey, that means you've you've trained her, well, you've mentored her.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what you want. That's what every mom and

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dad want. They want their kids to be better than

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they are. Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the best I ever did. Ben, you're a young father,

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so listen carefully. I am is have your kids play golf.

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I tried to get my boys to play basketball, but

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I finally learned and my last one, I said, We're

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doing golf because I'm gonna have fun. If I'm gonna

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watch you, I'm gonna at least have fun myself, and

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it's been the greatest thing. We get to spend so

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much time together and she's excellent and it's just fun. Man?

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Speaker 3: Is that like, just because you have to sit next

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to each other for I mean typically anywhere from two

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to four sometimes five hours, you actually get to talk

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Speaker 4: They're not trying to avoid you, right.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what other dad of a seventeen year old daughter

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gets to spend five hours without any distractions, you know,

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with your child?

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Actually the worst she likes me.

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Speaker 1: She still likes me. Ben, I don't know about your kids.

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might be bad. But my daughter likes me, so No.

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Speaker 3: Probably the worst decision I ever made. And it was

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hard because it was it was before COVID, right, and

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like I had purchased an Alpine country club membership in

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two thousand and ten, you know it was it was

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can't remember what the dudes were monthly, et cetera. But

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I had that thing till like twenty and eighteen. But

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at that time I was getting free golf.

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Speaker 4: I remember I used to do the show.

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Speaker 3: At Thanksgiving point, I did advertising for Fox Hollow.

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Speaker 4: I mean I was everywhere, you know.

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Speaker 3: I was like, well, you know, do I really need

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this Alpine country Club membership?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: And I sold it, kicking myself, stupid decision. The spirit

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was not with me, It was not guiding me at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they for a while, that long time ago, they

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were giving those away. Man, and now now there's a

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it's a hot commodity, very.

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Speaker 3: Very hot commodity. I'm kicking myself, unfortunately. But we all

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make good decisions. We all make bad decisions. K Y

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made some good des this offseason, not only retaining talent,

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but acquired talent. How special has it been for you

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to watch arguably the most talented team in BAU basketball

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history ball out at the Marriott Center.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you mentioned k Why. I love

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to work with. He's super kind to me and Greg,

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and he's just a super down to earth guy. Love

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talking to him. I think he's actually a brilliant basketball mind.

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he makes and his game plans, and I just I

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just think, how lucky are we to have him? So

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it's I think it starts with him, and then because

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of who he is and his connections and his ability

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to communicate with kids, he's able to bring in you know,

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great great young men and super talented basketball players. And

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it used to be where, you know, b why you

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wouldn't even get a sniff from some of these this

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level of recruit and now it seems like they're in

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on almost all the best recruits and legitimately have a chance.

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k Y and the school and the resources and the

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boosters and all that to to make BYU an attractive

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Speaker 1: And the fact that we've got aj.

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Speaker 2: Is unheard of obviously. And then even Rob Wright, you know,

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coming from Baylor to BYU. I mean, who would have

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ever seen that happening? And he he is one of

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my favorites man. He is so good, so consistent, so tough,

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and of course Richie, who's just the unicorn nowadays with

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his loyalty to the university and all the things he

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does and how hard he plays. I mean that Utah game, Ben,

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he willed the team to victory. He kind of put

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the team on his back and got those big rebounds

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and made big shots, and so yeah, I mean it's

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or years were fine. Every year's fine. But the level

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of play and how the team plays is about as

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ton of time as I've had in those thirty years.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned Richie the Todd King.

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Speaker 3: I was having a discussion with Jay Drew earlier in

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the show and we're like, how pivotal was that retention?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, what if he would

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have ended up at at Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that Kentucky team goes to an Elite eight last

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Speaker 3: That squad this year, they're probably doing a whole lot

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better because they have a glue guy, a leader, a

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guy that sets the tone, that creates continuity and executes

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and gets everyone bought in to what Mark Pope is building.

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Speaker 4: The fact that b Yu was able to retain Richie.

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Speaker 3: Is probably not heralded enough as one of the greatest

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recruiting efforts that this staff has been able to execute.

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Speaker 1: That really really is.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I can't speak to specifics, but I

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want people to understand that Richie left a lot on

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the tape to stay at b YU as good as

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by us resources are. Uh, he stayed because he wanted

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to and he loves the university and so yeah, as

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a fan, I'm grateful to him for that. But I

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think the obviously AJ is is even a I think

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a seasoned professional level player right now, and he could

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play in the NBA and be an All Star right now.

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But so he's he gets a lot of attention rightly,

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so top draft pick guy. But the best thing I

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think that ever happened to AJ is Richie to have

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that kind of leadership and maturity and how to play

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the game and to learn from Richie and to take

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a lot of the pressure off of AJ to have

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to do it all himself. You know, obviously there's other guys.

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three really good players, you know, it's just not all

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about you, It's not all on your shoulders, so you

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can kind of, uh you know, do your thing and

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have some pressure taken off of you, both off just

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the mental pressure that AJ must go through, but just

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the pressure to play and deliver at all times. And AJ,

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like the other night against TCU, he kind of took

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over that game. But for the most part, you know,

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he can kind of do his thing. And because Richie

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particularly is a leader of that team. And when you

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know Ben, like like when you were a senior at BYU,

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I mean you, nobody played harder than you, Nobody practiced

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harder than you. And when you've got a guy that's

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that good and sets that tone, like you have no excuses.

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this hard. If he's doing getting rebound, I need to

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do this. And so when you have a guy like

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that and that senior leadership who's you know, all American

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caliber player and he doing all the little things that

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make people great, then you learn from that and you

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have no excuses. And I think it's gonna be the

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Speaker 3: No excuses, played like a champion. It was a great victory,

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a gritty one, an ugly one, a beautifully ugly one.

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But when does the win is win over TCU, what

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were your takeaways from that matchup late last night. That's

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the That's one of the latest games you've probably had

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to call recently.

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Speaker 2: I guess there's reasons for it. If I'm the horn Frogs,

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it was even later for them their bodyclock. But I mean,

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what is the point of that. It seems silly, but

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I you know, I get there's TV and all that

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kind of stuff. But anyway, it was late, but it's nice,

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you know. I just had a nice meal before and

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got all that out of the way before the game,

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so it didn't bother me too much. But yeah, the game,

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you know, Ben, I'm I been kind of waiting for

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that game because everybody, every team has a game where

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it's just not their night. It's you know, you come

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off of a pretty intense rivalry game. It's certainly right

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for a letdown, a trap game, whatever you want to

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call it. And I just felt like, eventually these guys

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are gonna have an off night and they're gonna lose one,

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I was almost resigned myself to that. The great thing

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about last night was they had that game. They had

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their worst shooting night both from three and from two

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of the year, and yet they won. So you can

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and it shows you how good they are. And AJ

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him play in the first half, but man, he found

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half where he was great, and he The thing I'm

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impressed about AJ is whether it's Yukon or Clemson or

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whenever Byu needs him to be great, he has been

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great and he've found something deep inside and he was

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kind of his game where he will BYU the victory

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there to get them back in the lead. And so yeah,

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I mean it was it was not a good game.

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to win it, and so that's pretty cool. I mean,

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you usually don't escape those kind of games with a win,

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and so hopefully you learn some lessons, but you still

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have a w in the in the win column, and

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so that's that's good for this team. I expect them

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to play much better, even though they're going into a tough,

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tough place this weekend against Texas Tech and Lewock. But

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I think they'll actually play a lot better and we'll

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have a chance in that game.

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Speaker 3: Mark, we've discussed this Big three. Some people call it

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the brig Three, the First Presidency. I mean, there's a

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ton of different nicknames for this crew. But you know,

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you have to wonder, is this the Is this the

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best trio in Bou basketball history? Is this better than

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the Danny Ainge, you know eighty one team, the Great

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Kite friend Roberts, I know, I know, I know your

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your brother pretty good. You know, they they had some

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good sad Mike, We've had. I think the mckelly Wesley

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crew was good. The Hafa Travis Hanson crew was pretty good.

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Is this the best trio in Bou basketball history?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if you drill down on it, there's

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actually been some really good Yeah, really good players, Like

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you mentioned a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: But I think, as far as you know, recency bias

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is a thing.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I just I can't imagine three better

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players for b y U at the same time. I mean,

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aj is going to be possibly a number one pick,

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and so we've never had that. And Rob Wright, Holy cow,

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I mean that guy is so good and he's such

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as he's a guy that's so consistent too, and he's

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steady and make when byus struggling, he's the guy that

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makes a shot and just lightning quick. Impossible to stop

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him on the dribble penetration. And then we've talked about Ritchie.

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I mean, you've got three NBA guys, probably two of

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the guys first round NBA guys. One guy is maybe

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a first pick, first round guy. So as far as talent,

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pure talent, I think it's the best three. I mean,

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they had a chance last night to have the third

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consecutive game where they had three guys over twenty points.

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Now they fell short of that, but that was like

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would be the first time in thirty or forty years

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in the entire NCAA that any three players have got

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twenty a piece for three consecutive games close to doing that,

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which says a lot of itself. And the great thing

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about it is, you know they're they're all you know,

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they're all right around the same scoring, you know, right

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around twenty points a game. They all shoot a right

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around the same number of field goals, they shoot similar percentages.

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because sometimes when you have three excellent players like that,

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it's hard to get that chemistry and balance and guys

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are thinking, I got to get mine, and you know,

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but it's just organically, they've found a beautiful balance where

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they're all contributing, all shooting about the same amount, all

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getting about the same amount of points, and it's just

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it's really cool to see how those three have become

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like a single super super player in one in one

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guy and anyway, it's it's fun. I mean, I'm waxing

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trying to wax poetic about it failing, but they're as

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good as I've ever seen, and I've seen, you know,

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back to the Danny h days. And that's no slide

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on anybody. I mean, the fact they're just that good,

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and the fact that Dyus in this possession excuse me,

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positioned in the big twelve, in the top ten team

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and have those kind of caliber guys, it's like, what

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universe are we living in? And whatever it is, I'm

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glad I'm living in it.

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Speaker 4: Mark.

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Speaker 3: We were discussing earlier today who we need to step

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up on the bench or from the bench. We have

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one of the best starting fives, if not the best

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starting five in college basketball, you can make that argument,

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but we need bench players, We need more depth, We need.

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Speaker 4: Some consistency there.

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Speaker 3: Who's the guy that you're looking forward to in the

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next six weeks to maybe step up and take that

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baton or multiple guys to take that baton.

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Speaker 4: Who's most likely to do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the things i'mcerned about, and it was

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evident last night. As good as the Big three is

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and Kiba is tremendous, it's.

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Speaker 1: You know, you get a.

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Speaker 2: Guy in foul trouble or aj was wasn't feeling well,

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it doesn't take.

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Speaker 1: A lot to really hurt you.

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Speaker 2: And so they're walking a fine line, playing so few

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guys and relying so much on the Big three. So

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you just kind of hope and pray nobody gets hurt,

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or you stay out of foul trouble, or or you're

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going to have some problems. But in answer your question,

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I think they need to go all in on Hilo.

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I think he's a good player. He makes big plays,

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He plays without fear. He made a big three, had

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a huge block last night. He brings size, he stretches

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the floor. I think you're all in on him, and

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I think it really hurt.

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Speaker 1: BYU that Abdu Ahmed did not play.

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Speaker 2: I hope he can be healthy because I think when

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CABA's out of the game, BYU is a much different team.

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But with Beido he comes in and they're not that different.

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He's He's just a big human and a great shot blocker.

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I'm so pleased with him. So I'm all in on

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Beido and Mahi Loo and uh, you know, other than that,

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you're gonna have to kind of hope, and you know,

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hopefully Tyler Moruss makes a player too, or orkost It

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or or or whoever. But you know, I think seven,

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if you have seven guys that you can count on,

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I think what he does, then they should be all right.

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But you know, it's it's a little makes you a

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little bit nervous when anybody you know twists an ankle

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or is not feeling well or gets in foul trouble,

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because it can really turn on you quickly if if

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you don't have those guys ready to go.

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Speaker 3: I always feel like when we're about to make a run,

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like we get it, we get in or something like

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something crazy happens, you know, Like I hate to be

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that guy. I'm knocking on wood right now, all the

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wood here in my that's in my surrounding area. But

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it's like, man, I just hope we can stay healthy,

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you know, stay healthy and strong, nourish and strengthened and

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built for a run in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the things you worry about is because

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you're not as deep. You know, you're playing those the

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Big Tree a lot of minutes, I mean in thirty

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thirty five more, and so you worry about getting worn

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down a little bit. And just in that TCU game,

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you know, Aj was on the floor for a long

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time and I was worried that he was injured. And

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Rob Wright was knocked and he was limping for a while.

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I ate and Richie in the post game had a

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big ice bag on his caffe and he was in

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kind of twisted his ankle late. And so yeah, you

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find all the wood you can and knock on it

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because this team is a potential title contender.

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Speaker 1: Uh A Final.

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Speaker 2: Four National championship contender with everybody ready to play and healthy.

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But if anything goes wrong then it might spoil the

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apple cart and turn the apple cart upside down because

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there's just not a lot of room for error. Uh,

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there is. They're they're awesome. They could win it all.

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I totally believe that, but it's if one little thing happens,

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it could change that equation overnight.

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Speaker 1: So you just hope it doesn't and knock on the

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wood and uh and O.

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Speaker 2: B YU fans have had some rough uh rough what

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ifs in their in their fandom history, but hopefully this

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