WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.439 Welcome, welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show. 2 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:07.360 And you know many of us watched in deja vu horror. 3 00:00:08.119 --> 00:00:11.039 As a wide receiver, Tim Patrick went down in training 4 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:14.000 camp again for the second year in a row. And 5 00:00:14.039 --> 00:00:16.559 when I heard it was an achilles, I'm not even kidding. 6 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:19.359 The first thing I thought about was Downtown's Healthcamp, and 7 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:21.480 I know that sounds weird, but I was like, should 8 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:22.960 I call them? Should I give him a ring and 9 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:26.800 let him know? Because when I first started with Downtown's, 10 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:30.640 which is now Region Revolution nine years ago, one of 11 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:33.960 the first things that doctor Gary Ronimacher, who is one 12 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.399 of the big cheese is there and I'm joined by 13 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:41.399 Gary and Rachel Summers, who was the other big cheese there. Gary, 14 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:43.759 that was your injury. Yeah, I didn't know you were 15 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:44.960 a Bronco player, but. 16 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:48.880 No, I wish, but thanks for having us, you know, 17 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.719 I think that, uh, that brings back some memories. We 18 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:55.119 were at the time looking into regenerative medicine and we 19 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:57.159 were we were doing it in our office, but it's 20 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:00.079 very on the on the load, on the lowdown. And 21 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:02.679 then I had my injury and we won't get into that, 22 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:04.879 but I was running after some kids that were keeping 23 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:07.959 my house and in any case, my achilles you know, 24 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.920 snapped and I ended up doing regenerative services in our 25 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.159 office instead of surgery, which was recommended. And I remember 26 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:18.239 going back to the ortho at the time, like ten 27 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:20.480 weeks later, and he was like, this is healed better 28 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:21.760 than when we do surgery. 29 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:24.799 And you know that's the thing, because now he's going 30 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:27.400 to be out the season. He's out the entire season 31 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:29.560 because and I think, I do think now we found 32 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:31.359 out it was a full tear, which is not it's 33 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:33.719 a different the same as it was a full rupture 34 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:37.040 and not just a tear. But when I see this stuff, 35 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:39.200 and I know that a lot of professional athletes have 36 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:43.319 used regenerative therapies and regenerative medicine for a long time now, 37 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:46.400 but that's how I feel when I talk to someone 38 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:48.439 who has any kind of injury. That is my first 39 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:51.480 go to of like go try this and go do this. Rachel, 40 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:53.480 you and I were just talking off the air about 41 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.920 a show, because that's you know, Netflix show called Painkillers. 42 00:01:57.920 --> 00:01:58.959 What is pain Killers about? 43 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:03.840 It's about out the opioid epidemic and how it kind 44 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:06.599 of started in a certain part of America, that was 45 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:11.719 sort of dehumanized, so that pharma kind of got away 46 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:16.280 with prescribing an insane amount of these medications to people 47 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.319 who lived in this part of the country. 48 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.759 Is it all like the eastern Appalachian areas that were 49 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:23.199 the concentrator. 50 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:27.319 South like really like Virginia, right, Carolina's Tennessee, Kentucky. 51 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:32.439 Yeah, And that conversation is one of the conversations that 52 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:35.120 people are paying attention to do. As a matter of fact, 53 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:37.000 Chuck and I were having this conversation the other night 54 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:40.520 because we were watching something on television and someone said 55 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:44.680 I was prescribed prescription pain medication and I ended up 56 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:46.759 being an addict. And he said, how often do you 57 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:49.400 think that really happens. I think it happens a lot. 58 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:50.879 Yeah. 59 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:54.599 I think it happens a shocking amount, like a surprising 60 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:58.000 amount before people even realize it's happened, it's done. 61 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:01.800 Yeah, statistically, when what I've seen as of late is 62 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:04.240 if you're prescribed an opioid for thirty days or just 63 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:06.479 thirty three percent, chance you're addicted a year later. 64 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:10.439 Shut up, Holy crap. Well that explains why doctors are like, 65 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:12.560 I know you just had major surgery. Here's two pain 66 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:15.800 pills and you go on your way. That's a that's 67 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.080 a tough thing to balance. I mean a really tough thing. 68 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:21.919 To balance, it really is. And the sad thing is 69 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.919 is there some type of you know, people who become 70 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:28.080 addicted to this are almost like ashamed. Yeah, and so 71 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.439 it's created such a huge problem. That's part of the 72 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:31.639 homelessness problem that we have. 73 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:34.479 I think it's a huge part of the homelessness And at. 74 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:38.240 Ten X during COVID because we went to telehealth because 75 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.879 you couldn't go to see your doctor and so prescriptions 76 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:43.080 just went through the roof. And so that's actually our 77 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.879 mission at Regenda Revolution is like, listen, let's let's get 78 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:50.840 this area to heal naturally and regenerate it. And let's 79 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:56.360 not let's avoid medications. Let's avoid surgeries because basically we 80 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:58.840 see it every day, the side effects of people who 81 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:01.240 come in who have been on medications and people who 82 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:03.479 have come in who've had even replacements, who wish they 83 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:04.360 never would have See. 84 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:06.439 That was going to be my question, like what percentage 85 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:09.039 of the people that come to Regil Revolution are looking 86 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:12.199 or have already had some kind of surgery maybe but 87 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:15.759 have Oh wow, So it's that high. Yeah, that's the 88 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:17.480 thing that I think people don't realize. It's one of 89 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:19.319 the things I try to talk about is that like 90 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:21.920 knee replacements fail well, even if. 91 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:24.199 It wasn't a knee replacement, even if it was an 92 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:27.519 ACL repair from ten or twenty years ago, a lot 93 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:28.079 of scar. 94 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:28.800 Tissue is built up. 95 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:31.879 The surgical technologies have evolved quite a lot since then 96 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:36.040 and are less invasive, and so people who had surgeries five, ten, 97 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:40.759 fifteen years ago have a lot more lasting effects. 98 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:43.000 Than somebody who's going to have a surgery now. That's 99 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:43.600 part of it. 100 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:45.360 And then the other part of it is, you know, 101 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:47.160 if they did have a replacement or they did just 102 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:49.959 have a bad outcome from their surgery, now their other 103 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:53.000 knee has been kind of compensating for that one for 104 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:55.279 so long that it's wearing out and they don't want 105 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:56.360 to go down that road again. 106 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:00.720 When you look at the landsca of what's out there 107 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:02.439 right now, because I did a Google last night, I 108 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:06.399 was using the Google of what's happening with this field 109 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:10.160 of medicine, like right now, it has gone from nine 110 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:12.079 years ago when I used the Google and it was 111 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:13.759 just like, Okay, we're going to do it on these 112 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:16.439 very narrow applications. I feel like I read a study 113 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:18.720 last night, and you're not doing this at regen Revolution 114 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:22.720 where they're actually using it to regenerate kidneys for someone 115 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:26.879 in renal kidney failure. That's super cool. I mean, that's 116 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:29.720 this is the kind of like cutting edge stuff that 117 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:33.360 is happening all over the country. What has changed since 118 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:35.680 you guys started doing this just in the practice. 119 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:38.560 You know, I think the big thing is is it works. 120 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.639 People are getting benefits from it and it's helping them. 121 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:46.199 And so I think that you know, scientists from all 122 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:48.920 over the world are jumping in looking at this and saying, hey, 123 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:51.040 how can we do all these different types of regenerative 124 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:53.600 procedures for all these different types of conditions and stuff. 125 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:55.240 And to your point, we don't do any of that stuff. 126 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.800 But the studies that are out there that are happening 127 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:00.839 are massive just because of the benefit that said that 128 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:04.800 it has for people, and it is the future of medicine. 129 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:07.399 It's no doubt the future of medicine. You know, exactly 130 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:09.560 where it goes, I'm not sure, but I know regenerate 131 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:10.959 the medicine will be a part of that. 132 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:13.439 Well, it's not just it's not just about medicine. As 133 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:15.000 a matter of fact, Rachel, before I leave, I need 134 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.519 to make my appointment for my own facial that I 135 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.079 need to have done because some of the coolest stuff 136 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:23.399 that's happening right now with you guys is not just 137 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:26.000 about the inside, but it's also about looking good. 138 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:31.040 Yeah, I mean cosmetics and aesthetics, and you know, plastic 139 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:34.759 surgery and cosmetic surgery has been a growing field for 140 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:39.199 you know, my whole life. People I know who are 141 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:44.120 like the you know, my mother's generation had facelifts and 142 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:46.879 you're lucky if you had a good outcome from that. 143 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:48.680 You never really know how it's going to turn out. 144 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:52.600 The surgeries are risky, they generally have to be done again, 145 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:55.199 and like I said, you'd never know if you're going 146 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:55.759 to look. 147 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:56.600 Great or weird. 148 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.360 So the other thing, you want to look like yourself. 149 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:01.240 I just talked about this earlier in the show, Like, 150 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:04.120 I have no problem with people doing stuff to their face, 151 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.439 but at some point when you start to look like 152 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.040 someone else, like your friends need to have an intervention 153 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.800 and say this has gone too far. You just want 154 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.240 to look like yourself, only fresh. 155 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:15.879 And it's not like you know, what you're gonna get. 156 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:18.000 You go in there with a ton of faith in 157 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:20.480 this provider and this surgeon, and you never know what 158 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:22.399 you're gonna get, and there are a lot of risks, 159 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:24.160 and the downtime and the. 160 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.240 Healing is significant. 161 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:26.519 Yeah. 162 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:27.199 Months. 163 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:31.360 Whereas these processes and procedures are generally done with the 164 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:35.600 patient's own platelets, there are zero risks to this procedure 165 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:39.800 or these various procedures because it's your own platelets and 166 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.839 we're just doing injections. There's no scalpels, there's no anesthesia, 167 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:45.720 there's no downtime. 168 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.000 You do have numbing. I think you should say that, 169 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:50.000 because they're definitely numbing. 170 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:53.720 Yeah, but it's a topical numbing cream that is used. 171 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:56.279 It's a very strong three part numbing cream that we use, 172 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:00.199 and so that works very well. You get numb for 173 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:04.319 like twenty to thirty minutes before the procedure starts. And 174 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:06.560 then except for the people who are really brave like. 175 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:10.720 You, no, no, no, no, I'm not brave. Numbed me up. 176 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:13.800 I don't want to do it without numbing cream. No. 177 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:16.319 It's kind of interesting to me because it's not just 178 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:19.800 about it's not just about vanity. It's not just about 179 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:22.480 your joint pain. Now they have you guys do all 180 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:24.160 kinds And I'm trying to think of the best way 181 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.319 to talk about some of this stuff without, you know, 182 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:29.480 kids in the car after school situation. But men, they 183 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:31.920 have some things that can help you below the belt. Women, 184 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:37.120 they have some things that can help you with incontinence issues, laughing, sneezing, 185 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.840 that kind of stuff. I just think it's gone from 186 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:41.919 when I met you, Gary nine years ago. Here we 187 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:44.320 were just doing joints. That was all you were doing. 188 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:47.600 Yep. Yeah, we've added a lot to it because we 189 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:50.919 our passion is to help regenerate the body and to 190 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.240 get the buy to tap into the boy's own natural 191 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:57.080 ability to heal itself. Just like if you cut your arm, 192 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:00.320 whether you do something or not, it's gonna heale. Now, 193 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:03.720 as we get older, it takes longer, So our objective 194 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:05.639 is like, how can we reverse that, How can we 195 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:07.799 put that youthfulness back in and get your body to 196 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.240 regenerate so that you can avoid all this other stuff 197 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.080 we've been talking about, like surgery and medications. 198 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:15.679 Well, and how many people have saved up their whole 199 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.840 lives and planned their retirement so well, only to get 200 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:21.240 there and like their knees hurt so badly that they 201 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:24.720 can't walk around Italy or they can't go travel around 202 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:26.000 and do the things that they want to do. 203 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.840 We have that on our Mandy Connell Adventures. People who 204 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.679 exactly what you just said. They waited till they were retired. 205 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:34.559 Now their joints are broken and they can't enjoy it 206 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:37.919 the way they want to. This person on the Common 207 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:41.799 Spirit Health text line just ask this question. Oh geez, 208 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.360 hang on it just updated. Could you ask your guests 209 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:47.480 about rotator cuffs. Rotator cuff surgery is horrible. 210 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:50.320 Yeah, I know. We've been treating that for years. It 211 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:54.279 just depends if it's not a complete tear. We have 212 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.480 helped many, many people with rotator cuff tears, and what 213 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:00.519 we do is we just do it when through the radio. 214 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:02.960 We do a complimentary consultation and if we can help, great, 215 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:05.240 If we can't, we'll point them into a good direction. 216 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.960 I had a rotator cuff tear that that was healed 217 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:08.279 that way. 218 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:08.720 Well. 219 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:12.879 Chuck just finished five tendons in his left arm and 220 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:15.879 three torn tendons in his right arm, so he's been 221 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.840 undergoing therapy for that and now he can actually sleep 222 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:20.960 without making moaning noises in the middle of the night. 223 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:22.600 So that's a lot of progress. 224 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:26.360 That's the number one reason people seek out treatment for 225 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.879 their shoulders is not because their shoulder herds, because they 226 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:29.919 can't sleep because. 227 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:36.759 Chicken exactly right now, So people have questions about the 228 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:41.000 stem cells. Are they still donated? Now, we've talked about 229 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.919 this so many times about where this product comes from. 230 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:45.559 It does not come from aboarted babies. 231 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:49.200 No, nobody wants that, and that's illegal, you know, nobody 232 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:49.600 wants that. 233 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:53.720 Yeah, I mean it. So we do a process called PRP, 234 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:55.840 which is taking your own body, your own blood, and 235 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:59.159 spinning it down and injecting that. There are other products 236 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:03.240 that we get that have have you know, a slew 237 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.000 of different things like growth factors, cidokinds proteins in them 238 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:08.799 that help the body heal. It helps to attract your 239 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:11.320 own body stem cells to the area. So it's a 240 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:14.600 it's something that we've been doing for many years and 241 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:17.000 people to get remarkable results with it. 242 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:20.039 You're creating the environment that allows your body to flourish. Right, 243 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:22.559 You're laying the groundwork to help your own body do 244 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:26.039 its work. Yes, when will regenerative medicine no longer be 245 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:29.000 on trial status and then be covered by insurance. That's 246 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.200 kind of coming along a little bit, but not for 247 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:32.519 all companies, right. 248 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:36.399 You know, it's interesting. I think this is. 249 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:43.840 Probably the biggest sticking point for the industry. I would say, 250 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:47.480 is what's it going to take to get you know, 251 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:52.559 if Medicare started covering these treatments, right, or even treatments 252 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:55.000 that are in this category. They've gone back and forth 253 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:57.519 over the last five years. We'll cover this, but we 254 00:11:57.519 --> 00:11:59.960 don't cover that. We'll cover this product but not that product. 255 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.080 And these these products help people so much, and then 256 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:05.200 all of a sudden, Medicare will stop covering that. 257 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:09.519 My own insurance covered PRP injections for my vocal cord surgery, 258 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:12.639 but they won't cover PRP injections in my knee. That 259 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:16.159 doesn't make any sense to me. It's really ridiculous. But 260 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:19.440 at least you know baby steps. I know insurance companies 261 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:21.159 don't want to sholl out any more money, but for me, 262 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:23.279 think of all the money they'd be sick. 263 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:24.440 It would be less money. 264 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:26.039 Yes, in the long run. 265 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:29.240 It's tough when insurance companies in big farmer are in 266 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.759 bed together. So that's the bottom line, Like if you 267 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:36.039 were to, in my opinion, you know, if you were 268 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:40.679 to have all these products and services covered, and if 269 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:43.720 it was a decrease the amount of prescriptions are written 270 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:48.639 there just only hurts the pharmaceutical industry, right. So, and 271 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:50.600 I'm not saying that they're evil. There's a lot of 272 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.240 great things that they do. But at the end of 273 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:54.799 the day, their lobby is strong. Their lobby is as strong. 274 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:59.320 Yeah yeah, and they cannot necessarily or they can't get 275 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:02.480 any kind of pat and on your own blood cells, 276 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:05.399 they can't do that. There's a lot of money in 277 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.200 the background on this that is working against it. So 278 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:09.480 that's very frustrating, But. 279 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:10.879 It doesn't mean it doesn't work. 280 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:15.759 Yeah, exactly, well, yeah, exactly. Here we have let me 281 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:17.600 see here, I've got a lot of questions coming in. 282 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:23.039 I had on your recommendation, I went to Regen Revolution 283 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.360 for my shoulder. I had my final shot with Wharton's 284 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:28.399 jelly shoulder as well on its way to feeling normal again. 285 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:29.600 That's awesome. 286 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:31.960 Will this work for bone on bone rist issues? Let's 287 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:34.200 talk about where this works in the joints where it 288 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:35.399 works the best. 289 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.559 Like doctor Gary said, earlier. This medicine works. It either 290 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:40.679 works a little or it works a lot. Whether it 291 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:42.559 works a little or whether it works a lot really 292 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:46.200 depends on each individual's case and how far degenerated the 293 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:47.159 joint has gotten. 294 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:51.000 So I will say, we see a lot of people. 295 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:53.600 Come into our office with the diagnosis of bone on 296 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:56.799 bone from an orthopedic, and then you know, we look, 297 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.840 we take our own images of those people, and sometimes 298 00:13:59.840 --> 00:14:01.960 they've let it go too far and they're not a 299 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:03.919 candidate for this kind of medicine anymore. 300 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:05.519 But more often than. 301 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:08.039 Not, I would say that they are still a candidate 302 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:11.159 for this medicine. And it seems like the diagnosis of 303 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:13.200 bone on bone has gotten kind of. 304 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:18.360 Vague, loosey goosey, let's just say a big bucket. Yeah, 305 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:21.120 this is interesting. What can they do for my wife's 306 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:23.919 planner's fasciitis? Doctors say, the padding on her heel is 307 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.440 more or less gone. You guys got rid of my 308 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:29.120 planner's fash iis, but you didn't use any injections at all. 309 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:32.200 Use the stupid shockwave gun thing yep is that I 310 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:33.200 don't know what it's really called. 311 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:34.120 Is it's called shock? 312 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:37.519 It's not a stupid gun. But it is a shock wave. 313 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:41.440 It's like they hammer your foot with electricity. And I'm 314 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:43.759 not I'm not gonna lie. It was an it was 315 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:46.639 an interesting sensation, that was but it short lived. 316 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:48.200 I mean, people love that thing. 317 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.559 It's a it's a five minute treatment and it's amazingly 318 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:57.080 effective at breaking down scar tissue and calcification. And it's 319 00:14:57.159 --> 00:14:59.759 a like a tap tap tap tap tap, and you 320 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:02.200 can to adjust the wavelength and the frequency of what's 321 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:04.919 going into the skin depending on how what kind of 322 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:08.639 tissue were trying to feel, and it's amazingly effective. We 323 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:10.519 use that for a ton of different applications and I 324 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:12.200 would say's probably one of the most popular. 325 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:15.720 I'm actually hating that because I changed inserts in my 326 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:17.559 shoes and now my planner's fashalitis is back on my 327 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:19.240 left foot. Yeah, so I got to come back in. 328 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:22.519 It's like hammer my foot. But that's it's not a hammer, folks. 329 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:24.679 It's well, it feels like a hammer when you're doing 330 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:27.559 it on the back of your heel. But there's all 331 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:30.919 kinds of massage. Yeah, there's all kinds of different That's 332 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:32.559 one of the things I just go in and say, okay, 333 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:36.399 here's what's wrong with me, and how do you fix it? Like, honestly, 334 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:39.559 that's kind of what I do, And generally speaking, there's 335 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:42.120 some kind of answer, and sometimes it's just go see 336 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:47.039 doctor Cook, the chiropractor, who's amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing staff 337 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:50.399 at Downtown Healthcare. Everybody is amazing that you work with. 338 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:52.320 They're all I feel like they're the best at what 339 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:52.600 they do. 340 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:56.360 We think, so, I mean, that's definitely our aim. I 341 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:00.759 think that what's unique about are our staff is the 342 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:02.720 way they all collaborate on things. And so if a 343 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:05.159 patient does come in and says, hey, this is what's 344 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:07.320 going on with me, what should I do? You've got 345 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.639 a ton of mind share there to sort of come 346 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:13.320 up with a collaborative solution where we can kind of 347 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:15.679 address a problem from multiple angles. 348 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:18.919 A lot of people are asking still asking about insurance. 349 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.399 So can we clarify by saying some insurances cover some 350 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:24.919 parts of this? But I can't answer a blanket question 351 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:27.679 on the air because it really varies by what you're 352 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:31.639 having done and what your insurance company is. That's accurate, right. 353 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:35.159 That's accurate. I mean insurance right now doesn't cover regenerative medicine. 354 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:38.440 Yeah, but it does cover the potentially could cover the 355 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:39.159 rehab part of it. 356 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:40.799 It does cover a lot of the other stuff. 357 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:42.720 Yeah, And so I think the important thing to understand 358 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:46.440 is that where we see other places fail at doing 359 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:48.600 this is because they just do a regenerative treatment and 360 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:52.039 they don't do anything else, right, And what we've learned 361 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:55.279 over the years of doing this is that there's some rehabilitation, 362 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:58.039 some pt that we need to do to help strengthen 363 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:00.279 or stretch out the area properly so. 364 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:04.319 You don't come out there again, exactly right. One more 365 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:06.720 question that I wanted to get in here before we go, 366 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.000 Please consider opening an office in northern Colorado. No, not 367 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:12.160 until they open an office near me. So just they 368 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:14.519 have a beautiful by the way office and Lowry, let's 369 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:16.680 let's address that one more time. Why you went from 370 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.000 downtowns Healthcare to regen Revolution. I wanted to get that 371 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:19.480 in today. 372 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:21.599 Well, part of the reason is that we opened a 373 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:26.079 second location outside of downtown during COVID, So at that 374 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.359 time we started investigating and exploring, you know, just. 375 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:30.640 A rebranding and renaming. 376 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:35.880 Then Downtown really did not make the recovery we were 377 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:39.559 all hoping for after COVID and you know, our lease 378 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:41.880 was up downtown and we decided not to renew our 379 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:47.039 lease immediately, and so we consolidated operations to our Lowery office. 380 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:49.119 While we're kind of figuring out, and. 381 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:52.119 Let me just say, the Lowry office has lots of parking. 382 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:55.279 In the parking, it's easy to get to. There's no 383 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:56.279 one urinating on the. 384 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:59.119 Side on the sidewalk it and stuff around. 385 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:01.519 It is a delay. A lot of people are asking 386 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:05.319 me specific questions about specific injuries like this. One says, 387 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:09.920 I separated my shoulder. Am I a good candidate? Get 388 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.079 the free console? Like, yeah, just come in and let 389 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:14.480 us take a look. Yeah, I mean it's not gonna 390 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:15.279 it's free. 391 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:16.240 That's what I did. 392 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:18.759 And I separated my shoulder. I had a torn rotator cuff. 393 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:21.079 I burst it and babed it for years and then 394 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:22.359 I finally got this treatment. 395 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:23.200 Now it's fine. 396 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:24.680 Yeah, I can tell you this. If you have a 397 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:29.440 you know, if you have a shoulder, elbow, hand, wrists hip, knee, ankle, 398 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:32.279 foot issue, spine issue, We've seen it all. Or your 399 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.000 hair is falling out, or if your hair's falling out, 400 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:34.920 or you know. 401 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:37.759