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<v Speaker 1>Joining me now is a guy who I mean, some

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<v Speaker 1>of you cyclists in our listening audience may remember. He

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<v Speaker 1>was an incredibly successful sixteen year old cyclist in New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe cyclist of the Year, even when he suffered

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<v Speaker 1>a devastating accident. But Nathan Marcosi was not one to

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<v Speaker 1>keep that let that keep him down, and his story

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<v Speaker 1>of recovery is simply astounding.

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<v Speaker 2>So welcome to the show, Nathan.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, We've had a few weeks of rough news, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready for good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to hear about how you suffered a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>accident but still managed to turn it into something good.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And Mandy, thank you so much for having me. It's

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<v Speaker 3>an honor to be with you right now. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to bring a little bit of light

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<v Speaker 3>to the world. Right There's there's always you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>hear you hear all of the negatives all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how our world keeps revolving.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's really fun to be able to bring some

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<v Speaker 3>light to the world and give people some positivity and

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<v Speaker 3>some courage and some joy. And so I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 3>dive into this with you, Mandy.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about you were a highly competitive athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you always wired that way? Did you fall in

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<v Speaker 1>love with cycling? Tell me a little bit about that story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, great question.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've been an athlete since day one of my life. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>I was always very, very active. And it's funny. I

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<v Speaker 3>have two boys, and they're both very active as young

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<v Speaker 3>little kids. And my mom told me, Nathan, I've only

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<v Speaker 3>seen kids this active when you were a child, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so it is, it's really fun I've been incredibly active.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always loved to be outdoors doing any sport that

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<v Speaker 3>I could growing up, right, And I did them all.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I did basketball, I did I did tennis, which wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite. I did swimming, I did cross country, I

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<v Speaker 3>did triathlons, baseball, and and my mom was a pet

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<v Speaker 3>and so she never let me do football, but of

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<v Speaker 3>course I was. I was doing all of the long

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<v Speaker 3>distance sports in particular, and she was.

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<v Speaker 4>She was a big motivation behind that. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>She was always run in the mornings with her best

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<v Speaker 3>friends and she was training for a marathon. And that

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<v Speaker 3>that inspired me, you know, to have my mom getting

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<v Speaker 3>up early every morning to run with her friends when.

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<v Speaker 4>It was still dark. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an inspiration to a young child, right, that has

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<v Speaker 3>a very ambitious athletic desire.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And so since the beginning, yes, I've been very athletic

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<v Speaker 3>and wanting to pursue a life, a life with athletics,

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<v Speaker 3>a life that is outdoors and always active.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's where we began my career as a cyclist.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm sure we can dive into that.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like your mom was trying to wear you

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<v Speaker 1>out right by putting it in every sport.

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<v Speaker 2>It was possible. But what was it about cycling?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you just naturally gifted in that sport or did

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<v Speaker 1>you develop a passion for it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is a combos and now we're bringing in

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<v Speaker 3>my dad. So my dad was he was a big

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<v Speaker 3>mountain biker, right. He loved to ride on mountain biking

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<v Speaker 3>trails and he had quite a few mountain bikes sitting

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<v Speaker 3>on our garage. And so he taught me how to

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<v Speaker 3>ride my bike. And I was born and raised riding

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<v Speaker 3>a bike, but never truly pursuing competition, right, just riding

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<v Speaker 3>for fun. And then while I was in middle school.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to a charter school down in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>And at that charter school, there weren't at the time

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<v Speaker 3>that I was there, there weren't any established sports that

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<v Speaker 3>were you know, team sports, right, So it was traditional basketball, football,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the.

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<v Speaker 4>Case may be.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I did, what I did pursue was the

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<v Speaker 3>triathlon team. So I really pursued running, and I loved

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<v Speaker 3>the cross country team. I loved getting up early every

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<v Speaker 3>morning and running on the boski and seeing the beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>skies of New Mexico each morning. And I loved the

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<v Speaker 3>cross country team, and I loved my cross country coach.

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<v Speaker 3>He of course was also the coach of the triathlon

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<v Speaker 3>team as a whole. So one day I was running

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<v Speaker 3>at cross country practice and he asked me, Nathan, do

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<v Speaker 3>you want to try doing competitive cycling?

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<v Speaker 4>You want to give it a swing?

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<v Speaker 3>And so I thought me and maybe we should, right,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I should try it out. So this was big

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<v Speaker 3>because I also was playing baseball when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 3>and I played a lot of baseball, and so this

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<v Speaker 3>was around seventh grade and I had to decide between

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<v Speaker 3>baseball and cycling, and that was a big decision for me.

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<v Speaker 3>But I decided to pursue cycling, and it was a

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<v Speaker 3>good thing that I did because my first race ever

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<v Speaker 3>was the New Mexico State time trial. Right, so not

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<v Speaker 3>even a race that you can leverage your teammates.

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<v Speaker 4>It is just you.

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<v Speaker 3>Against the clock and the fastest legs win, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>I won state champion for my age group on my first.

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<v Speaker 4>So I thought, you know what, I might stick with this. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>that's mighty for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have found my niche here that that's so

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you it suited you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, and I fell in love with it very quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>The freedom on a bike, as I'm sure a large

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<v Speaker 3>majority of your audience can attest to, right, The freedom

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<v Speaker 3>that you feel on a bike. You just you can

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<v Speaker 3>ride forever, and you're out in the open, right, You're

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<v Speaker 3>out in the free air, and and it is a

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<v Speaker 3>beauty being on the bike. Riding in that saddle is

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<v Speaker 3>just a beauty that you can't compare.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to jump ahead because not only did you

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<v Speaker 1>win your first race, you won many races. You became

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<v Speaker 1>you were the cyclist of the year. You're sixteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>You're out on a road, you know, road ride one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about the accident that changed your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well this is it is really, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a it's a devastating story, but it also has so

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<v Speaker 3>much life, you know, towards what now that we are

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<v Speaker 3>in today. Right, And so it did all begin that way, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was the state champion in New Mexico. I was

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<v Speaker 3>the road race leader for my category in New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>I still hold the title to be the youngest to

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<v Speaker 3>ever win the Tour of the Hila, which is based

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<v Speaker 3>out of Silver City, New Mexico, for the category I

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<v Speaker 3>was racing in as a sixteen year old, I got

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<v Speaker 3>some soft commitments from UHC development team, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>setting my eyes on the Olympics, on the Tour de France,

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<v Speaker 3>going to race for Canondale, being sponsored by Canondale, and

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<v Speaker 3>going to race internationally. That's where my vision was set.

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<v Speaker 3>And then in January of twenty sixteen, I was training

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<v Speaker 3>with my coach and my teammate and we were training

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<v Speaker 3>for this next year's Tour of the Hila, and I

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<v Speaker 3>had upgraded a category, so I was racing now against

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<v Speaker 3>semi professionals a higher category.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And.

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<v Speaker 3>While we were training, while we were on this ride,

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<v Speaker 4>Down to thelin I believe, and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was on this long stretch of road where cyclists were

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<v Speaker 3>permitted to ride. There was a cycling lane right, and

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<v Speaker 3>there was a distracted driver who was driving at sixty

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<v Speaker 3>miles an hour who for some reason miscalculated where we

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<v Speaker 3>were on the road and he hit me. Hit sixty

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<v Speaker 3>miles an hour, flying one hundred feet and sprawled out

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground. So my body hit the windshield of

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<v Speaker 3>the car, and there's pictures of that. You can see

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<v Speaker 3>where my shoulder hit and my really my hip hit,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can see the imprint of my body on

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<v Speaker 3>the windshield that shot me forward, like I said, about

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred feet. Immediately, I was in a coma, So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember this whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>This is me just conveying to you what I've been told.

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<v Speaker 3>My coach, you know, scrambled to my side and I

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<v Speaker 3>was unresponsive. So he's started tapping me, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 3>to shake me a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Nathan Nathan.

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<v Speaker 3>No response, and so the officer who came to the

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<v Speaker 3>side of the scene reported it as a fatality.

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<v Speaker 4>So I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I died on the scene, and they put me in

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<v Speaker 3>an ambulance and they rushed me to the ICU in

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<v Speaker 3>un M hospital. And I mean, God, bless my parents, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I say this time and time again.

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<v Speaker 4>They got the call that I was on the way

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<v Speaker 4>to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>Dead and it was actually my coach who called my mom.

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<v Speaker 3>And if my mom always says, if she would get

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<v Speaker 3>a call from my.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach, she knew that something is, something.

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<v Speaker 3>Bad happened, right, you shouldn't be getting a call from

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<v Speaker 3>a coach during a long ride.

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<v Speaker 4>So they rushed to the hospital and I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in a coma for two weeks, and by

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<v Speaker 3>God's grace, of course, I opened my eyes after two

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<v Speaker 3>weeks paralyzed on my left side. So I was in

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<v Speaker 3>the ICU for a month, and then then they put

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<v Speaker 3>me on a medical flight up to Craig Hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, we can dive into my recovery. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want to talk for just a moment and

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<v Speaker 1>on your website, and I have all of Nathan's information.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a new book coming out we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>But you and your story, you say you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the accident in your timeline, a catastrophic car crash

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<v Speaker 1>that claimed my life on the side of a desolate road.

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<v Speaker 1>In that moment, everything I knew sees to exist, followed

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<v Speaker 1>by eternal peace, light and joy and experience of the

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<v Speaker 1>joy and piece that awaits us all a radiant light,

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<v Speaker 1>a homecoming. I am fascinated by near death experiences. My

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<v Speaker 1>audience knows this. I think they give us a window

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<v Speaker 1>into what we cannot understand on this earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is this is fascinating, Mandy. And why I'm

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<v Speaker 3>excited you asked me about this question is because you

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<v Speaker 3>have an experience with death or near death experience stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, You've heard several yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I told him that I talked to Vinnie Tolman and

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<v Speaker 1>how much I love these interviews that I've done.

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<v Speaker 3>But go ahead, yeah, yeah, And this is so interesting

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<v Speaker 3>because so many people, unfortunately, right around the world have

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<v Speaker 3>experienced near death experiences. Right. There's there's an abundance, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>of stories with people who have experienced this, this same

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<v Speaker 3>near death experience. And what is miraculous to me, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 3>is that all of the stories mirror each other, right,

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<v Speaker 3>they all they all mimic each other in regard to

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<v Speaker 3>that light, right, in regard to that piece that perfect

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<v Speaker 3>piece and my personal near death experience. It's it's really

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<v Speaker 3>hard to put this into words, right. It's something that

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<v Speaker 3>people have always asked me about, and it's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>articulate because words are you know, words don't cover the incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>Experience that we don't have the vocabulary to experience.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have the vocabulary that is big enough to

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I've been told multiple times, like we are,

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely and this is that is exactly true, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>I think if I were to articulate it and put

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<v Speaker 3>would be it was this large field, right glass grass field.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was very yeah, I mean obviously very very

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<v Speaker 3>type of peace on this earth, right, And it was perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>And while I was there, there were there were seven

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<v Speaker 3>I call them angels, right, So seven holy presences with

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<v Speaker 2>Quote unquote right.

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<v Speaker 3>But I knew that this was the place where I

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<v Speaker 3>An experience that I actually told my grandmother about when

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<v Speaker 3>I was back home recovering. I told her Man, I

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<v Speaker 3>then you realize what we all are promised and what

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<v Speaker 3>and every audience to hear, right, is that it's easy

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what you were talking about when we

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<v Speaker 3>first started this episode, right, Mandy, that there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of bad news all the time, and that's always pushed

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<v Speaker 3>in our face, that's always shoved down our throats, quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 3>But really the key to life is realizing that every

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<v Speaker 3>time we open our eyes right, tomorrow is never promised.

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<v Speaker 3>So each day that you open your eyes, it is

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<v Speaker 3>a blessing, right, and it's all about how we utilize

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<v Speaker 3>this time, which is so precious to us. Right, Our

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<v Speaker 3>time is so precious to us. Utilize your time to

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<v Speaker 3>create the life that you long for. Maybe it's maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's riding your bike all day long, like I was right.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's building a business. Maybe it's starting a family.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many different opportunities for so many people. But

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<v Speaker 3>the only difference between holding yourself back and letting yourself

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<v Speaker 1>Did this experience help you get through the significant challenges

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<v Speaker 1>that you faced when you woke up because you went

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were riding your bike, you got hit by a car.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to you got hit by a car as

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think having that experience helped you get through

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is an interesting question, Mandy, because I do

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<v Speaker 3>It's something that I've spoken with with several of my mentors,

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<v Speaker 3>my business mentors, and my partners just about my mentality.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of a David Goggin's mentality, if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to call it that, right. It's obviously when I was

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<v Speaker 3>the Olympics and the Tour de France, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was sixteen years old, and I would do

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<v Speaker 3>achieving each goal that I set myself to in order

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of fortitude and grit and perseverance. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I know that that same mentality is what brought me

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<v Speaker 3>through the recovery. It is very difficult to lay in bed,

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<v Speaker 3>right when you're laying in a bed and I have

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<v Speaker 3>to attempt to lean over and press a button to

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<v Speaker 3>I was a nationally ranked cyclist. Is is that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>a struggle, right, That is pain and difficulty to the

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<v Speaker 3>to the greatest extent that I could imagine for myself,

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<v Speaker 3>and so that was.

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<v Speaker 4>A really difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, I guess sense of self worth that I encountered, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But that sort of mentality is what kept me pushing forward,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was always motivated to get back to my

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<v Speaker 3>fullest capacity what and that that can be mirrored in

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<v Speaker 3>in my life story here in my life story with

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<v Speaker 3>businesses in my life story many times over, right, as

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<v Speaker 3>it can be mirrored in many other people's lives.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to I.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to get to your business stuff because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's super interesting that you have had in and obviously physically,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing because we're almost out of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to make sure to talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>transition because I think you're approach to what you do

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<v Speaker 1>in business is very interesting, right, It's very interesting. So

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<v Speaker 1>how are you physically now these how many years later?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, well, these how many years later is a great,

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<v Speaker 3>great question. So physically I am very blessed. I ran

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<v Speaker 3>a marathon about two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>God, Nathan, you make it does all look bad? Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 2>least I'm for.

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<v Speaker 4>The rest of us.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>So, and I wake up every morning at four point

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<v Speaker 3>fifty two to outdoors every morning with the F three

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<v Speaker 3>well in regard to the time frame of recovery. This year,

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<v Speaker 3>this January twenty third, marks the ten year anniversary, if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to call it that, of the day that

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<v Speaker 3>I was hit by the car. And this year, on

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<v Speaker 3>January twenty three, I am publishing my book Old Wealth,

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<v Speaker 3>New Wealth, True Wealth, which was co authored by Sharon Lecter,

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<v Speaker 3>who's the one who wrote Rich Dad, Poor Debt. And

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<v Speaker 3>what we're doing is is this book is really redefining

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<v Speaker 3>wealth for a new generation. And I'm sure we can

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<v Speaker 3>dive into this more, but it's an incredible full circle.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten years since I was hit, I'm able to begin

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Nathan, I love I love this and I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to have you back on in January just to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the book and just to talk about why a

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<v Speaker 1>into the financial area. Because a lot of people would

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<v Speaker 1>say cynically, well, of course, now he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to use that for sympathy.

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<v Speaker 1>But after just reading on your website, your philosophy, to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, I think is going to resonate, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of younger listeners. Like my kids are millennials,

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<v Speaker 1>and though they have done an amazing job financially for themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>they're Dave Ramsey acolytes. They have no debt, They've really

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<v Speaker 1>is to use it for something else, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Their goal is not to have a giant

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<v Speaker 1>mansion or a Ferrari. Their goals are much much different,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like that is what this new book

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, so true. Wealth right isn't just what you

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<v Speaker 3>earn or what you own. It's who you become, right,

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<v Speaker 3>the freedom you have with your time, and the impact

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<v Speaker 3>that your life creates. Right, And it's the perfect alignment

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<v Speaker 3>I think. You know, most people don't fail financially, they

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<v Speaker 3>fail because becoming They fail be becoming someone that.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't recognize in the process.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's so true that we need to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to keep ourselves grounded and keep our purpose right. Money's important,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, which is why I think it's funny you

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned financial But it's a terrible master and it's a

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<v Speaker 3>powerful servant, right, So if your success costs you your health, family,

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<v Speaker 3>your peace, it's too expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen to that. Nathan. We're out of time. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>out of time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did put a link to Nathan's website if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know more about him, If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go ahead and pre order the book. But Nathan,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have you on in January before the

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<v Speaker 1>book comes out, maybe a couple of days give you

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<v Speaker 1>What a fascinating story, and what a fascinating way that

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<v Speaker 1>you approach life because of all of these different travails

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<v Speaker 1>that you've gone through. I can't wait to read the book.

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<v Speaker 1>And I appreciate you making time for us today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Mandy, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>It is such an honor to be speaking with you

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<v Speaker 3>and to be collaborating with you to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Nathan Barcosi, thank you for making time for us today.