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Speaker 1: Eleven o two Sports Talk seven out of eighth. You know,

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the show was so successful last week we said, you

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know what, Brian Bogasva, We're gonna put him on again

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every single Wednesday at eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Rady's true. U oooh, by goodness.

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Speaker 1: People love Brian bogusk He's on Spaceity Network, he's done

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some astros radio, and he's our friend on Wednesdays at

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eleven Bogie. Before we get to what's going on right now, uh,

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we saw, obviously camp Smith get the announcement from Joe Aspota.

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How did you find out you were getting a call

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to the show? Oh?

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Speaker 3: So I was a September call up, my first time.

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So you know that that last day of August game,

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everybody's kind of in a Triple A clubhouse looking around

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like who's gonna be And I got taken out of

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the game, you know, after like the fifth inning or something.

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So it's like, okay, that's weird, it's probably gonna happen.

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And then got called into the manager's office after the

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game and he said you and you know, I don't know,

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there's probably four or five of us. You guys are

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all going up to Houston tomorrow morning, and.

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Speaker 1: You're like, where's my girlfriend? I want her in the

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room with me so I can kiss her and hug

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and congratulator.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, you know what they didn't do that for

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me was not Oh.

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Speaker 2: I hear bitterness in your voice right now. I can

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guarantee you that I definitely hear it your voice.

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Speaker 3: No, I, you know those things are it's it's such

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a cool thing. You know. Everybody obviously that has it

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happened to them, they remember it, and it's you can

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share it with people even better. But no, I was

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not on the camp Smith's level of let's bring everybody

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in for it.

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Speaker 1: So we've been kind of debating about what this move means.

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Is it because it could be all the above. So

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let me just throw a variety of scenarios at you.

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Is it an indictment again? What they really think of

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chess playing every day in right field? Is this? This

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kid is so hot? We got to make sure to

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give them in every opportunity to be the future right fielder.

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Is it a combination of both?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: I want this trade with Kyle Tucker to have immediate impact.

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And with that being said, bringing up one of the

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guys along with Parker was asking who's going to be

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one of the starters. This once again shows that me

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as a general manager and Dana Brown got great value

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in return for getting giving away a five to two

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player like Kyle Tucker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean the answer is probably a little bit

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of everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But in regards to Cam individually, I think there's kind

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of two distinct ways of looking at it, and it's

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number one, is this what's best for the team. And

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I think that's the easiest question to answer if you

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watch him playing throughout the spring, if you just watch

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how the competition in house played out throughout the course

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of the spring, it's very easy decision to say he

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gives us the best chance being our everyday right fielder.

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The question that's harder to answer is is this what's

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best for Cam long term? You know, is he going

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to be able to get the proper development, the proper

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development track and become the player that he's going to

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be as quickly as as needed at the big league level.

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And that's a much more difficult question to answer because

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it's not necessarily a baseball question. You know, it's not

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breaking down his swing and seeing how he shares against

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certain types of pitching. It's a personal question. It's is

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he going to be able to handle the pressure? Is

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he going to be able to, you know, go through

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a slump and inevitably have a level of failure at

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some point during the season and do that under a

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huge microscope and have a lot more people noticing and

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asking about it, And can he handle that and not

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have that be an impediment to him helping the team?

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And that's that's just getting to know the person Cam Smith,

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and I think over the course of the spring, that

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was something that impressed you know, the Astros people more

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than the player that they got, was the person that

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they got. And you know, I think at the end

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of the day, they've got to a point to where

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they were comfortable saying, we are we we can push

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it on this person. Not necessarily, not necessarily the player

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is ready.

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Speaker 1: Can you fast track learning right field when you're doing

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it in a major league game? I mean, that's a

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lot for him to inherit the responsibility of his young

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bat in his great spring. And oh, by the way,

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he's gonna have to play as much defense as he

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is taking his four A beats or five plate appearances

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes and no. Yes, you can fast track

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it in the organized organization and the team and the

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player recognizes that it's a new position. So we're going

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to go out there and we're just gonna, you know, early,

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work the hell out of you and you we're going

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to be out there every day and it's going to

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be okay, we're going to do balls off the wall today,

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We're going to be you know, fun goes down the line.

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I'm gonna want you charging balls. We're just going to

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work on something every single day. And he is, you know,

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young enough that that's be a problem. He's going to

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be able to go out there and do the work.

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And I've seen it before and when Jad Martinez first

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got up here, the bat was way ahead of the

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defense and Dave Clark had him out there just working

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him to death every day to get him ready. The

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flip side of that is, at some point, certainly playing

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the outfield, you just have to see live reps. You know,

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balls off of a fungo are not the same as

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balls off of the bat. You know, a fly ball

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at three o'clock doesn't look the same as a flyball

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at seven point thirty with a full stadium, So there

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are going to be growing pains, There are going to

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be things that can only be seen for a first

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time at game speed, and you know there are going

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to be times when it doesn't look great. But that's

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part of betting on the person. Is can he go

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out there and zoo a fly ball and Number one

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put it behind him and go have a good at

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bat in the bottom half of the inning and Number

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two say, Okay, what was the scenario? What did I

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do wrong? What do I need to do to fix it?

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And then fix it the next time, not the next

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ten times, And that's part of betting on the person

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as much as the player.

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Speaker 4: We saw Cam Smith struggle with the spin of a

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ball off of a lefty bat. We saw a two

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days struggle with the spin of a ball off a

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righty bat. Is is there a good way to practice

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that and get better at that, Brian? Or is it

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just you have to be in the game Number.

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Speaker 3: I mean to see it at game speed and game scenario.

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It can't be simulated. You know, you can go out

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there and play balls off the bat in batting practice,

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but it's just it's just not quite the same. I mean,

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especially when you have that last little bit of adrenaline

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and you know the ball I guess what was at

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Monday night that camp has played at the wall. You know,

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he saw that ball going back over his head. So

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his first thought is, okay, I got to get back

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to the wall like that. It's really difficult to play

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a ball at the wall. The first thing you have

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to do is find the wall. And he had his

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mindset on I'm getting back to the wall, but then

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forgot about the fact that, okay, that's a righty hitting

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that slice into the corner. So he got back to

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the wall, and also the ball ran away from him.

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So being able to juggle all those things at once

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at game speed, you know, not thinking about it but

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reacting to it. It takes game reps and game experience.

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You know, it can be simulated to a degree, but

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it's just not it.

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Speaker 4: Brian bogasuge with us here on Sports Talk seven ninety

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and Brian, it's kind of taken the back burner now

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with jose L Twove and left field, and we talked

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about it last ye last week with the learning curves

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of how long this is going to take and so

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so what are your expectations of both of them early

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on in the field.

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Speaker 3: Expect to every once in a while, I'll see something

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that's like, oh man, you know something. There's going to

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be mistakes, just understand that. But at the same time,

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I think very quickly routine plays will become routine. And

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especially when you're thinking about L two A and left field,

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all of a sudden, the area of that he has

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to cover gets shrunk. When you're at dyk In Park

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playing left field, basically all you have to do is

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play everything in front of you and if it's gonna

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be over your head, just turn around and play it

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off the wall. You don't have the element of going

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back on balls, so it really simplifies what you have

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to do. And you know, thinking about Jose out there,

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his default setting is I go for it, right That's

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that's how he hits. You know, when he's not comfortable hitting,

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he just starts swinging when he's you know, has a

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decision to make on the basis it's I'm going and

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then I'll deal with the consequences. And in the outfield

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that's not necessarily what your default setting should be. You

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almost want to play things a little bit conservatively and

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being in that short left field where look, I'm gonna

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play everything in front of me, and if it's off

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the wall, play it, throw it back in. It's a double,

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you know, just don't turn him into triples. And once

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he gets that understanding and that feeling where make the

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routine plays, avoid the aster plays, it'll look fine out there.

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Speaker 2: And left bogie.

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Speaker 1: We spent so much time time with the outfield for

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the first two weeks of our visit.

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Speaker 2: Let's do this.

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Speaker 1: Let's I'm gonna ask you give me two or three

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storylines that you're curious about for the first month of

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the season that don't involve the new left fielder and

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the new right fielder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's actually other players on the team.

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Speaker 1: I know we're talking on them, but they're they're out

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there for sure.

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Speaker 3: I Mean, the big thing is in the bullpen, you know,

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eighth inning, ninth inning. We're good, a brave hater, as

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good as there is. You know, what's what's in the middle,

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especially early in the season, when starters aren't going to

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be pushed to go really deep into games. What's going

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to happen in the seven to sixth and maybe even

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fifth inning sometimes Last year, Taylor Scott had the big

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breakout year, he was a huge addition. Who's going to

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be that guy this year or those guys because right

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now there's a lot of unproven arms and a lot

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of guys, you know, trying to bounce back and maybe

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take on larger roles than they have in the past.

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So that's the biggest thing for me is what's going

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to bridge the strength of the starting rotation and the

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strength of the back of the bullpen. And the other

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thing is who are going to be the guys that

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take the big next step? And three guys that I'm

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looking at, Number one Jeremy Panya just can he have

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that big breakout offensive year? Really from a power standpoint,

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can he consistently drive the ball in the air and become,

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you know, a twenty five home run type guy because

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he's strong enough to do it. It's just swing consistency.

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I think Jan Diaz can be a monster offensively, Like

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I am as bullish on him offensively as anybody. And

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I think Spencer Arraghetti is going to kind of be

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that hinge of the of the starting rotation. You know,

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does he make the jump and become oh wow, that's

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kind of top of the rotation. Type of stuff or

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is he still trying to get his feet underneath him

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and just be a guy who throws out solid starts,

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you know, on a day to day base.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point, Bogie, because I have not hidden

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the fact. I don't think Ross has either. We haven't

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asked you. I think this is Fromber's last year as

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an astro. I think when you have no sort of

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contract extension talks in spring training, that's the that's the

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light going off going you know what they're gonna They're

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willing to lose him because I don't want to put

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in a lot of money into his piggy bank for

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a long term investment. So I think we can definitely

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take a look at Hunter Brown and Arragetty and look

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and everyone El Blanco because we might be meeting a

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ACE number one guy one year from now.

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Speaker 3: No. I mean, if you just look at you know,

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the last whatever it's been six or seven offseasons, They've

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had guys who are you know, huge parts of the team,

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get at or near free agency and then and then

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they're gone. That's just kind of the way it has been.

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And you know, from a player standpoint, once you get

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a certain amount of track record built up, and you

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get close enough to free agency, why wouldn't you go

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out there and put yourself on the open market. So yeah,

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it seems likely that that might be the case for Fromberg.

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So who's the next guy? You know, Hunter had this

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huge breakout second half last year. If he continues to

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be that guy, he moves to the top of the rotation,

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and then who's sliding in behind him? I mean, Arraghetti's stuff.

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If you just look at the individual pitches and the

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profile of the pitches, it's all nasty. If he can

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put it all together and have plans of attack with

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all of his pitches working off of one another, all

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of a sudden you've got another top of the rotation

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type of guy.

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Speaker 1: Buggy gray stuff is always looking forward to seeing me

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the ballpark on not to just in future.

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Speaker 2: What am we gonna see you on Space City for

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the first time?

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow? Opening day?

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Speaker 2: They bring up the heavy hitters on opening day?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 2: I like big guns, baby. Good for you. You liked

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this media thing, obviously you do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, did you ever envision fifteen years ago when

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you were still playing this was going to be part

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of your of your post baseball life.

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Speaker 3: No, honestly, I never never thought about it until after

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I was finished playing and the opportunity presented itself. But

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I think it's just an awesome way to stay around

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the game and stay involved in the game, and you know,

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find a way to get your stuff out to the

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ballpark every day.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great, Bogie, Thanks to visit. We'll talk again next.

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Speaker 3: Week, all right. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: You got a Brian Bogosivic with us every Wednesday at

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eleven o'clock right here on these airwaves what we call

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sports Talks.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff there from Bogie