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Speaker 1: Hi, It's Colin Coward.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to be back on the sports radio airwaves

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in Utah. Catch me weekdays ten to one on one

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oh three point nine and ninety eight point three.

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Speaker 3: The fan.

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Speaker 4: From Chicago to Prova.

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Speaker 2: From dodging tackles on the rugby pitch to covering drives

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on the Marriotte Center baseline, He's traded in scrums for statuets,

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cleats for courtside coverage, and somehow he draws more contact

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than half the Big Twelve. He's Rondel the Three Man

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Weaver to break down the matchup storylines and give you

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everything you need to know before chip out.

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Speaker 4: This is the Cougar Basketball pregame Show on one.

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Speaker 2: O, three nine and ninety three ESPN Welcavan, part of

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Utah's ESPN Radio Network.

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Speaker 5: Now, welcome in to the Gooper Basketball pre game show

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here on one O three nine and ninety eight three ESPN.

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Speaker 3: The Fan Party.

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Speaker 5: You tell ESPN Radio Network, that's right, it's Ronald the

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Three Man Weaver. Know who the producer is behind the

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glass and ap Andrew Peterson with me as well. We

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got a good one for you tonight, folks. Top twenty

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five matchup number sixteen b Yu taking on the number

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Speaker 3: We got a little koog on coog action, man, b Yu.

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Speaker 5: You love to see him in these top twenty five

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matches because it's a great opportunity to get a top

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twenty five win. Whenever you have a great opportunity to

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bounce back, you want to do it on your home floor.

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You want to write the ship, you want to do

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it all the right way, the beautiful college confines of

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the Marriott Center. Game's gonna be on ESPN. You got

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John Boog Scambini and then you got Fran Fachello on

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the call.

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Speaker 3: You love Big Fran.

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Speaker 5: He was taking pictures with Houston yesterday. Love Fran Forchelle.

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I love hearing him call games. I'm and most of

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them covering them, so I try to like make sure

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I keep the broadcast in my ear so I can

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rewind to look at plays too.

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Speaker 3: But man, is it gonna be great?

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Speaker 5: And look, if you're not an ESPN guy, you want

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to listen to it on the radio, you can always

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do it as well.

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Speaker 3: Gregor Bella, Mark Durant are going to have.

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Speaker 5: To call as well today as the twelfth All Time

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Meeting between the programs in the Houston second trip to

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the Mayor At Center as a member of the Big

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twelve BYU guys is three and eight all time against

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the Coogs in one to three with the record in Provo.

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Last time that these two teams, excuse me met in Provo,

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it was a great one.

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Speaker 3: It was close.

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Speaker 5: I think Trevin Neill had the chance to tie. The

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game didn't go BYU's way, and that happens. That's okay.

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But the last time bou face Houston, remember it was

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a semi finals of the Big Toil Championship.

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Speaker 3: Can we see a reoccurrence?

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Speaker 5: Can BYU and Houston meet up again later in the

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Big Toil Championship They lost seventy.

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Speaker 3: Four to fifty four. And that coug team, as we know,

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was the runner.

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Speaker 5: Up in the National Championship. So just know this is

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a very good basketball team in Houston. This is a

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very good program coach by Kelvin Samson. Look, k Bucador

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recovered a double double in that game that they lost

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in the Big twelve semifinal. He had fourteen points twelve rebounds.

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And then the guy who is the fourth leading scorer

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who is out for the season Dawson Baker had eleven

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points off the bench, knocking down to a BYU six reporters, Man, AP,

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does that.

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Speaker 3: One hurt you here?

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Speaker 1: And that absolutely it does. It hurts my soul every

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time Dawson Baker and realized that he cannot play this year. Nope,

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because boy do we need him?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, by you miss this dB for Shirton. But I

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said this yesterday on the Cougar sports have been cruitive.

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to mhy movie. I need to find that sound clip

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or get permission to go go cut it. I just

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it to Twitter. I've been trying to find it. My

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social media searching skills just might be bad.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 5: The point is Dawson Baker is eligible to come back

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for a sixth season, and I was already declared of yesterday.

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Speaker 3: AP.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure you were as well, right and Caleb

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without question. They need someone that's been in the system.

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like Ron while you jump in the next season, well,

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because this year you could use it, that you could

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use him, you could use a secondary ball handler because

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you have none, so AP. I'm looking forward to DB's

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recovery and I think he'll take that sixth year.

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Speaker 1: I think he certainly needs to consider it. And for

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the portal, but you need an experienced guy who can

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knock down timely threes. And Austin Baker is that guy,

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even coming off injury. He showed it before coming off injuries,

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he was able to do that. So I have no

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doubt that if he came back for a sixth year

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of eligibility that he'd be able to do that again.

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this year, and that has shown that has come back

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to bite you many times and.

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Speaker 5: Has come back to bite bite bite a many times.

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But that's a that's the storylines is you've never you

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haven't beat us. Shouldn't say ever, you haven't been Houston

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yet since entering the conference. The only win over Houston

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and Provo came on December fourth, nineteen sixty five. Wow,

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it's a long time ago, so before my time, before

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a peacetime. I think he might even be before my

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parent's time.

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Speaker 1: Was a one year old.

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Speaker 3: Oh, pops, AP's dad Pops was one. Wow, it's a

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long time.

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Speaker 1: It is before my mom's.

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Speaker 5: Time, before your mom's time. For God that they can't God,

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it so loves the mom's Oh goodness, gracious, wow, Hey,

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it's as you. Hopefully it doesn't get more ugly tonight,

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Speaker 3: In the last segment, b y u as.

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Speaker 5: I said, returning to the Friendly Confines in the mayor

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of at Senate Day, they're trying to snapped this three

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game losing streak that they're on. It began, obviously with

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number one Arizona back on January twenty six in Provo.

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were dead to rights, and then all of a sudden

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they started chipping away eleven.

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Speaker 3: I think you're down eleven with one O.

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Speaker 5: Three or one o five left or something like that,

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sixty five seconds left in the ballgame.

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Speaker 3: Let's just go with that.

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Speaker 5: And next thing, you know, they got a chance to

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go win the game. And I'm like, wow, I said

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this might happen, and I'm and we were supposed to

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be a professional in press row.

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Speaker 3: But we all stood up.

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Speaker 5: I won't say who I was next to, but the

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other guy next to HI wouldn't care, and that was

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that was Drake Toll. Drake told Drake Toe was on

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press row with us, and he looked at me. I

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was like, all right, bro, I was like, if they

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win this game, I was about to go crazy.

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Speaker 1: No shot that Drake Toll was sitting down for that.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, wait what we were because it was

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like it was a blog. Then the game started outing.

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guy next to me SMETIA member and the guy to

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my right. I won't say names because they haven't give

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me approval, but I know Drake. I know, I know

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Drake is all cool, and I'm like, did they can

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come back? And we're like, ah, we'll see it. Then

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it got to seven, it got the fives.

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Speaker 3: Of this entry. Then when it got cut to When

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Speaker 5: To one, I was like, we were we were like

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this they when they called the offensive foul.

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Speaker 3: That's when we like stuff. We like everybody grab each

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other saying oh oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 5: I like started going back back back back, back back back.

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I had to rewrite my story rewrite. I had to

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switch things around. I was like, is this gonna be

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women's soccer all over again? Is this gonna be taken

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down North Carolina?

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Speaker 3: Sure enough?

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Speaker 5: Obviously they didn't have power to do what you know,

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the women's soccer team did because they had to depth.

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Speaker 3: Get it done. But they had a chance though.

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Speaker 5: And this is what's something that Jared Bledsoe pointed out,

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Speaker 3: Every possession matters.

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Speaker 5: You better make sure that you don't turn the ball

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over on inbounding plays because this is gonna press your

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ninety four. I think they're gonna make sure they try

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to slow aj down Rob everybody. Do you remember ap

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what happened in that game late when Bay you got

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a little laxadaisical when they were inbounding ball.

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Speaker 3: You know what Arizona did and what did Arizona do?

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Speaker 5: They stole the ball and they laid it up right,

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and that came back to haunt bou. Imagine if that

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turns into a bucket, or let's just say they don't

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get that point.

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Speaker 3: Let's say it's a misshot at the end, they don't

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get it right. Let's just take those two points off

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Speaker 5: Let's say they don't get that shot BYU is actually

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leading by is leading by one with the chance to

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close it out, and then Arizona has to go all differently.

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and I'm shot at to Jared because he said, Oh,

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this is gonna come back and haunt you. And if

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football turnovers late, haunt you. Turnovers in the second half

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when Houston's pressing you and you got to inbound the ball,

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and I'm talking about under like five minutes, definitely in

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the last two if you don't execute your game plan,

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that's gonna cost you big time.

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Speaker 3: You won't be able to get it done, you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna add this. You can't start the game

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turning the ball over either. I can't tell you how

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many times. No, man, I'll be very clear. When I

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get out of the studio after this preap show. I'm

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up in South Lake, so I'm driving down listening to

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the game, and I can't tell you how many times

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I've heard Greg Rubal say four turnovers in the first

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four minutes. Oh man, you can't start the game turning

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the ball over either.

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Speaker 3: Nope, you can't start the ball turning the game over.

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You can't.

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Speaker 5: You can't start the game turning the ball over. Just

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it won't help you if you do that, it'll be crazy.

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And Houston's it's a really they're a really good team, man,

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they really are. Like I don't like when you have

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to play against Houston. And the reason why I don't

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like it is because it's gonna they make it ugly.

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Speaker 3: Remember last year you play last year?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, remember like that, Like they beat you twenty They

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beat you by forty combined points. Last year they believe

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out by twenty And obviously you had to take a

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true road game and they do it to everybody in

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the freight to center.

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Speaker 3: But it's it's really tough. Now. The second game, in

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the semi final game that they lost. I was at

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the game. I was present for the Big twelve tournament.

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It looked worse than.

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Speaker 5: What it was and BYU, you just here's the crazy part.

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They played better in that game. And a lot of

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people say, Ron, No, they didn't. Just didn't score more

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than fifty pop points. I disagree. They just couldn't buy

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a bucket. And that's why Dawson Baker and that's they

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got better looks and they just didn't fall.

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Speaker 3: The first game was like all right, they had everything

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locked up.

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Speaker 5: In the second game and Kevin Young also played this

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and I said this over Aaron, I took accountability for it, right,

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and it was a little harsh, but it was also true.

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But I think Kevin Young had a terrible game plan.

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I think you said, all right, Wall, like they hit

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how many threes against Iowa State the game before, Like

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you had to believe that was gonna be on the

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game plan and Houston Press Now they got better looks

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even with that pressure. But Bo, you could never go

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on a run Houston. I think that the most that

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they kept the lead that was eleven and BYU never

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could get it. I think the closest they got it

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to I think it was eleven to thirteen and they

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never could get it to that eight mark. And Cable

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was phenomenal defensively, even had a couple blocks, and just

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they never con turn. And that's what you're gonna have

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to do tonight if you get down, because that's basketball, right,

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it's a game of excuse me, stop runs, game of runs.

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Houston's gonna make their run, but can you make yours?

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Can you push and transition enough? And I definitely think

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this team is going to come in with a different

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type of motivation. I think they are gonna be motivated.

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I think you're gonna see a lot more energy. They

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are going to be great to start the game. I

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really believe that. Ap I'm worried about, as they say

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in football, of the middle eight, Right, what happens once

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you get under ten minutes?

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Speaker 3: How does that team start to look, because that's when

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they started to struggle.

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Speaker 5: Is that ten to ten minutes to that that five

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or four minute mark.

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Speaker 1: Well, I do want to give you a little bit

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of pushback here on. I am actually more worried about

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the beginning of the game than the middle of the

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game because and here's my.

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Speaker 5: Really beginning than the middle and at home yes, yes, okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: This here's why the beginning of the games where by

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has been getting beat most of the time. I understand

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Oklahoma State was different. They got beat at the end

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of the game, But the games where By's lost, it's

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been the beginning of the game. And to me, the

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way BYU's played tells me this about Kevin Young this

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year is he has been an excellent in game coach.

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He's been able to make adjustments get Bayu back into

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the game. My worry has been the game plan to

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start the games, because when you're coming out flat this consistently,

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I don't think it's players as much as it's the

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game plan to start games. And I just hope they've

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got something to switch up the way they've been coming out,

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because if they come out with a good game plan,

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I think by you could hang around. And I think

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that's honestly, like, if Byu is gonna win this game tonight,

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I think it's because they had a good game plan.

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To start the game, and they came out strong because

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Kevin Young has been very good for the majority of

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the games at getting his players to get right in

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the middle of the game and towards the end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was just texted by Caleb Lyonts.

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Speaker 5: He said, if BAU has less than eight turnovers in

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the first half, they will win this game. I appreciate

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the hot take by ap. We will see, we will see.

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Let's give you some updates. This is per Greg Rabel

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and this is what he said. B A head coach

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Kevin Young in his pregame chat on looking to stop

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a three game slide against Houston. Team is on a

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three game win streak. By the way, when you have adversity,

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you have to address that adversity. Then you also have

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to address how you're going to beat the team at hand.

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That both of those things are true, and trying to

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balance those two things is something we've talked about internally.

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As a stab. Not gonna give you anything there. We've

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got to pick it up. There's no getting around it.

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Our defense has been a joke. Wow, harsh words from Ky.

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We have got to love the honesty. This is what

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everybody wants. Honesty we have to take the challenge a

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little bit more defensively. It's execution, do what you're asked

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to do. There you go, sounds like people aren't doing

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what they're asked to do. For me, it's making sure

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there's extreme, oh wow, clarity on what your job actually is,

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so that there's no gray area. And I think things

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are pretty clear about what you've been about, what we've

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told our players. Ap your thoughts on that we've heard

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ky be honest in the past, I've never heard that before.

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Speaker 3: Straight honesty our defense is a joke. Then let's jump

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down he was for me, it's making.

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Speaker 5: Sure that it's extreme clarity on what your job actually

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is and that there's no gray area.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts and takeaways of that.

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Speaker 1: I think Kevin Young is just very aware. First off,

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I like to say this, if you tend into Cougar

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Sports with Benkril yesterday, you heard me rant about how

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I love it when coaches and players are honest. We've

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never had a problem with Kevin Young be honest or

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ja when he was there pretty straight up about everything.

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What that rant tells me is that Kevin Young has

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heard all the complaints from Kugarnation he's very aware and

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more than that, he I don't think it took the

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complaints for him to know that, but I think he's

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a he's willing to address what the fans are feeling

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and be like, yeah, we're not playing to the standard

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that we're that we set ourselves up for. And so

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I think it's just Kevin Young is very big on

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accountability because that's the only way that you can get better.

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And that's what it took last year because he you

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heard it several times. He said, straight up, people think

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they can punk BYU. And he was very straight up

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with his team and with the fans about that, and

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that's what caused the change. And so I think that's

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a very positive thing, even if it sounds harsh that

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Kevin Young is out there and he knows what the

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deal is and he's not going to sugarcoat it. He's

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gonna get in there and fix it.

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Speaker 5: Nope, they're not. Just so people know too. And relating

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to scoring, Houston's number one scoring defense. They only give

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up sixty one point they're four points. They're a very

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very good team BYU, not bad top eight. They give

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up seventy two point three. So we'll see if our

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score predictions ligne up down. Offensive wise, though BYU is

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a top four team, they average eighty five point eight

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point excuse me, eighty five point five points per game,

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and Houston is in the top ten. Houston only comes

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in averaging seventy eight point nine. So we will see

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and I want to bring this up because this is

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gonna play a factor. Free throw percentage team percentage Houston

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number one. They knocked down seventy eight percent of their

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free throws BYU, also top four, they knocked down about

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seventy four point eight round the seventy five mark. Opponent's

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free throw percentage well BYU seventy and Houston is fifteenth

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sixty eight. So we're gonna see the free throws, I

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think is what it might come down to. And then

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obviously we know what it is. Well turn overs Houston

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assistant turnover ratio number one BYU eleventh. Wow, Houston really

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does a very good job of taking care of the

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basketball and the turnover margin I mean six point.

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Speaker 3: Look Houston's number one. Like that.

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Speaker 5: This team is good b YU eighth, not bad. But

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this is gonna be a defense about it's gonna be

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a great offense. Versus a great defense. I mean, what

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you know, I forget the saying of what they say,

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you know, a movable object, URSTU formidable something. It's gonna

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be that who's gonna bite first? Will the defense give

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up or will the offense be able to overload itself?

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Speaker 3: But we will see before we go to break. I

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do want to go ahead and people, you're.

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Speaker 1: Just gonna add on to that. Like the scary thing

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that you get from all of that is the ceiling

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of Houston basketball is just as big as it was

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last year. The thing about it is, though, that the

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floor is lower than last year.

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Speaker 3: That is what you hope.

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Speaker 5: You're not wrong, you do hope the floor is lower.

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I agree with that, So we will see what happens.

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So before we go to break, though, give you one

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more stat here. Team offensive rebounds. Houston, like I said,

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is number one thirteen point five. At ba's number fifth

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at twelve point five, not bad defensive team rebounds, and

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Boa he's number third at twenty six point seven, and

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then Houston comes in at number fifteenth at twenty three

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point five. So by you, definitely, I think it has

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to win their defensive boards and somehow try to get

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some mo boards to be able to do that, and

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I mean in the rebound and margin total rebounds to

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BAU third Houston is there in the top ten as well.

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Their number six. So before we go to break, let's

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hear from Kelvin Sampson. Though he had a sound clip,

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he discussed he caught up with the guy who I respect.

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It's in the Big twelve. I had one on one

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with AJ. He does stuff for the Big Twelve. It's

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a chancellor. I really haven't. I've had opportunity to connect

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with some people in passing, but Chancellor Johnson does a

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phenomenal job. He's, you know, part of the Big twelve consensor.

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He is a storyteller down there in Texas, Houston specifically.

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I believe he's gonna be at this game too. I

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have to double check that. But let's hear what Kelvin

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Sampson had to say about BA. You had some my praise.

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Speaker 6: Has grown out the best and b y U b y.

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He has always been great. But I remember when Ladell

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Anderson was the football coach and Jim was the quarterback's

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name for the marriage.

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Speaker 3: I remember Jim and Ham's.

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Speaker 6: Quarterback Ty Depberg and were High Deptburgh and so d Y.

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He has always been great. I remember watching Danny ms

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Now we played them two years ago and they every

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seat was packed. But I think Kevin, what Kevin has

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done has brought, you know, brought.

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Speaker 3: In the bush.

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Speaker 6: Getting the Saunders kid back, who's one of the best

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players in the nation, might be one of the most

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underrated players in they I mean, how many six five

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guards can drive and shoot it and rebound every seven

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rebounds a game.

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Speaker 3: And then we played against the right.

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Speaker 6: Kids from Baylor a couple of times last year. He's

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he's a lead point guard. So I think got a

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lot to be excited about. And their their arena is

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uh top nonst that at homeport advantage. Just when we

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walked down and that I knew that would say a

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great win for just cause of how tough it.

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Speaker 1: Is to play that.

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Speaker 5: There you go right there, look high praise. First of all,

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he started with football. What drives the ship for Brian Santiago,

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Uh he said, going back to today as a Todd Detmer.

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Jim mcmahle, I love that. I love that he brought

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that up with football. I mean he started there and

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then obviously he goes to more modern day. That's for

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the oldies, old people that are listening to the Uh,

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excuse me, my apologies.

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Speaker 3: My elders that are listening to the show. Don't want

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to say that has a negative connotation the elder people.

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Speaker 5: And and then he transitioned it to today. Kevin got

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to de bansa kid. I mean, he's got aj Look

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at that. I mean he got Saunders, who was the

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I think, if not the most underrated, underrated guy. He's like,

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how many six five guards can shoot it, drive it

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and rebound it all three of those Like I don't

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think people understand. That's why Richie's going to the NBA.

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Richie can shoot the three at a high clip, he

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can drive it the development of course of what the

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staff has done, and he can rebound it. Got a

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guy that's committed to playing defensive, grabbing offensive boards. Richie's

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one of the top rebounds on this team behind KBA.

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So that's where he's gonna get the proch from. And

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that's what they have to do. Then, in order to

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pull off a win, I was out eating because you know,

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finally I was finally able to go out. The wife

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wanted me to be able to go out with the

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family and have a good meal. We try to new

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Burger plays don't want to say it because they're how

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to sponsor the show? Do need to maybe get the marketing?

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And Guy Scott was taking care of us and I

476
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was eating and I saw somebody with the BYU shirt

477
00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:41,000
and you know, I was like, ah, by he was like, yeah,

478
00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:42,640
go Coog's And I was like, you go into the

479
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game tonight.

480
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Speaker 3: He's like yeah.

481
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Speaker 5: He's like, you think they you think they get it done.

482
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,920
He's like, ah, He's like, man, I'm hoping. He was

483
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,799
three game losing streak. He was it's got to be snapped.

484
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But you got to think that the mayor out's a center,

485
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a special place, and at some point Byu has to

486
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put it together, right. Even if he's like I believe

487
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in luck, He's like, luck has to fall on their side, right,

488
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,279
And I said, you never know. I said, each game

489
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is an opportunity to prove yourself. And that's what tonight is.

490
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Tonight is an opportunity for bo you to go out

491
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,279
there and dominate it is they can do that, and

492
00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:14,079
you don't have to dominate for all forty minutes. You

493
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could and then people might be like, Okay, well they

494
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frauds land again.

495
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Speaker 3: I mean if they're dominated Houston.

496
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Speaker 5: But you go out there and you get a top

497
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,279
ten win, it puts you on the path where look,

498
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a lot of you probably don't have your alignment steering

499
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the correct way. Let go of your steerwell and see

500
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if you're be a right or left right now b

501
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where you're starting to swerve until the other lane really

502
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really fast like rush hour.

503
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Speaker 3: You know what a top ten win does you.

504
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Speaker 5: It drifts you all the way back into your correct lane,

505
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but you still have the power to go left to right.

506
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It means that your your alignment's not fixed, but it

507
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,359
means that you have the power to fix it. So

508
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we will see, we'll see. Let's get into a little

509
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interview portion. We're gonna play a Joseph Duarte I caught

510
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up with them. We caught up with them yesterday. We're

511
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gonna replay that for you because there's some people who

512
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haven't heard it. We're gonna his thoughts on what he

513
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thinks this bou matchup will be Joseph Mills's Houston team

514
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very well.

515
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Speaker 3: He's seen by U upfront. He's gonna be Danna.

516
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Speaker 5: Provo with us his first trip to Provo. We'll see

517
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,359
is this Houston team gonna be unfit? Gonna be phased

518
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by the Marriott Center? I was told no, let's find

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out next. But before we go to break, as a

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reminder that that segment was brought to by roll on

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put out what's your score predictions?

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543
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ESPN the Fan Hotline. We've had them on the show

582
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before and welcome back in. We have Joseph Duarte, b

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writer for the Houston Chronicle. Joseph, Thanks Joseph, thank you

584
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for joining me today.

585
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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me on. Of course. Well, look,

586
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I need you to break it down for me.

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Speaker 5: This is a Houston team that I feel like hasn't

588
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been talked about enough this year. But when I look

589
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at them on paper, it's the same as always. Uh

590
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do you have taxes at Kelvin Sampson.

591
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Speaker 7: Yeah, pretty much, you know. Uh, you know, the two

592
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offers are too ranked teams Tennessee and Texas Tech by

593
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I believe a combined seven points. So uh, you know,

594
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they I believe they began the year preseason two or three.

595
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So I mean, you look, you look at what their

596
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body of work is has been to date, and uh, yeah,

597
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I don't. I don't think a lot of people so

598
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far talking about them, but that's because there's a lot

599
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of other good teams in the Big twelve alone that

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people are talking about.

601
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Speaker 3: Uh.

602
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Speaker 7: But you know, the formula and the recipe is still there,

603
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you know, Shelton Sampson stress is the rebounding, the taking

604
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away turnovers and the uh and the defensive part, and

605
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that's sort of has been what's kept them in games

606
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this year. New cast of characters, but really same script

607
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as Houston's had in the.

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Speaker 3: Past, number seven team in the net.

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Speaker 5: Right now, they're eight to one a conference play twenty

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and two overall losses only coming in QUA one games.

611
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Wanted a neutral site against Tennessee by three, and then,

612
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like you mentioned, Texas Tech on the road in a

613
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true road environment. I love this Houston team. I love

614
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what I see on paper, the physicality. You said a

615
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new cast. Who's a new cast that fan should be

616
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aware of going into the Maryout Center tomorrow night.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's the two freshman starters. The point guard Kingston Flemmings,

618
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he's the one who on that special Saturday a couple

619
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of weeks ago had for forty two forty three against

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Texas Tech in that road loss. And then Chris Sanak,

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who is the fourth spot. He'll he'll be the one

622
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that probably butts heads with aj most of the game

623
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on Saturday. And those are two of the five stars

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that they brought in. They were two of the best

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at their positions in the last recruiting cycle. They have

626
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a third member that was a five Stars, Isaiah Harwell.

627
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He's more of a bench player. But you know they've

628
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got the the returners around them, Milos Susan, Emanuel Sharp,

629
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Jojo Tugler. Those three were returners from the National Championship

630
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Game team, but the two freshmen have carried their share

631
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of the load this year, and this will be an

632
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interesting environment for them because they haven't played in many

633
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places that will be rocking as much as the Marriott

634
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Center is on Saturday night.

635
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Speaker 5: How do you expect, you know, for them to do

636
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You just mentioned that they haven't, but I mean, Kingston

637
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Fleming just dropped forty two to the night I think

638
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AJ had dropped forty three Waggler from Illinois's freshman classes.

639
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Speaker 3: Ridiculous.

640
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Speaker 5: First of all, I'm excited to see where they all

641
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go in the NBA Draft, But how do you expect

642
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them to handle this pressure tomorrow?

643
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Speaker 7: Well, Flemings is sort of you know, I was looking

644
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at the stats. I believe he's averaging like twenty five

645
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twenty six points against ranked teams this year.

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Speaker 3: So me he.

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Speaker 7: They both have been in in you know, on the

648
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on the Nike circuit and all the the AAUS. I mean,

649
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they played against a lot of the top talent before

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they even got to college. And you know, the the

651
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:14,039
Auburn game, I think non conference one of the first

652
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:16,200
couple of weeks of the season they were it was

653
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basically a road game because it was in Birmingham, not

654
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too far from from Alburn's campus, and they both just

655
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really took off.

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Speaker 3: In that game.

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Speaker 7: So Flemings has really stepped up a lot just through

658
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the throughout the season. Sanak has been more of a

659
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a work in progress. You know, he played five the

660
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five in high school and he wanted to come in

661
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and play the four. So you've got this bigger guy

662
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who tends to have to go outside on the perimeter

663
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and guard some of the the faster, quicker guards and

664
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that's been a little bit of a a development for him.

665
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But you know, both of them have have shown flashes

666
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uh this year mostly you know, Flemings throughout it and

667
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Senec the Sinata the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: I like sing that junior the six for eleven freshman

669
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averaging nine and a half and grabbing just under eight

670
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boards and under an assission and fifty from the field.

671
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You said, he's probably gonna get the assignment to start

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off on AJ. When you look at AJ on film,

673
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what do you see and what is his coaching staff see?

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That's the guy that seemed to slow down for b

675
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Yu right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, and and and Kelvin Kelvin when he

677
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when he looks at teams and he looks at the

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complete body of work, and you know, he's he's real

679
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complimentary of of of Richie Saunders, and he likes the

680
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,640
way that what he can do and how he can

681
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,920
beat you. And you know they're familiar with uh Rob

682
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Wright from UH from his days at Baylor. And then

683
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you look at AJ and and when Kelvin was recruiting

684
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Snak and Flemings, you know, he would be at games

685
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where he would get a chance to see AJ playing.

686
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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 7: You know, he he doesn't prop up freshman as much

688
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as some coaches do, but he knows the talent that's there.

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We know, we asked him maybe uh, some of the

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freshmen that he's coaching his career against that he's just

691
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,920
thought of being out of this world. He mentioned Gary Payton,

692
00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:08,240
Jason Kidd, Paul Pierce, Carmelo, Anthony tj. Ford and then

693
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:10,400
he was like on AJ. You know, he said that

694
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he was more of the scoring abilities, more like a Carmelo.

695
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So that's that's pretty high praise from Kelvin. But you know,

696
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:21,599
they know it's it's more than just the banter that

697
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they're gonna have to to go against, but it certainly

698
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,880
starts with him, because I mean, you look at this

699
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,279
BYU roster. I mean, they average almost ninety points a game,

700
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and those three alone account for about sixty of them

701
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:35,400
on most nights. So it's it's a tough challenge. But

702
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,279
Houston's number two defensively and scoring allowed, so it should

703
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:42,400
be a fun one. I don't know, you know, Houston

704
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,039
showed the ability that they can score. I don't know

705
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:46,400
if that's the type of game they want to get into,

706
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but things generally always start and usually finished with with

707
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how they.

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Speaker 3: Do on defense one hundred percent. You just brought it up.

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Speaker 5: You said ninety points a game, and I'm sitting next

710
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to two guys listening. They were shaking their head of

711
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I don't think BYU scored ninety points tomorrow against this

712
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,000
this Houston team. This is a team that, look, I

713
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:07,920
need you to give me some insight from last year's team,

714
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,960
because you got still Emmanuel Sharp, my little Suzan. You

715
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000
still got Joseph Tuggler, who were part of that great

716
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,000
team last year with LJ.

717
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: Crime Man.

718
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 5: It was beautiful watching you guys play basketball. Honestly, I know,

719
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,279
b what you suffered a couple of losses, but man,

720
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,160
I think the average mile was what five and a

721
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,160
half minutes by the team or something to waking up

722
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,279
at five am. I'm like, this team is gonna pick

723
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,079
you up ninety four feet for forty minutes and they're

724
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:31,039
not gonna be out of breath.

725
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, And then that's what they do. They just they

726
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,839
grind you. You know, you hear a lot on the

727
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,200
TV telecast that there's there's not many teams out there

728
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,160
that will outwork Houston. And it all starts with, you know,

729
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,680
the hustle plays. I mean that, you know, you could

730
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,319
count them up tomorrow. There's probably more than a dozen

731
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,599
plays where you're gonna see their guys just diving on

732
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:53,680
the floor, wrestling with you, just fighting for that that

733
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:55,799
extra inch if you gotta get your hand on the ball.

734
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,400
H And that's sort of what their DNA is. That's

735
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,839
that's how they beat you. And a lot of good

736
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,799
teams end up looking average when they when they go

737
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,319
in and I've seen teams that score ninety on average

738
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,359
score fifty against Houston or sixty, and you know, they

739
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,680
bring you down to another level. And as far as

740
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:18,920
last year, I mean, help them tell you this team

741
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,079
isn't as good as last year right now. I mean

742
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,240
last year when you look at what they had, the

743
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:26,319
differences in the front court, they had Juwan Roberts. He

744
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,200
was the sixth year guy, made a lot of big plays.

745
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,319
He was the winningest player in program history. He could

746
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,240
just you could run things through him and he could score.

747
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:39,160
They don't have that scoring consistency that they had last

748
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,880
year with him. They also lost a jvier of Francis

749
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,480
who he had like a seven to six wingspan. He

750
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:47,000
could be a disruptor, especially when he was on the

751
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,480
court with Tugler, who you know was the big twelve

752
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,880
defensive player of the year. So you had a bunch

753
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,240
of different things going. And then, by the way, you

754
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:58,359
had a really consistent probably one through three scoring. You know,

755
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,400
they lost l J. Cryer and he could light you

756
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:03,359
up on any minute from the three. They they've got

757
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,480
flashes of that flimmings and sharp as good a one

758
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:09,719
to two scoring punch that they've had. The third option

759
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,039
that has just kind of fluctuated this year. It's between

760
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,679
you Zan maybe Sanak, but it's really that's just not

761
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,000
where it is for them. So there's been games where

762
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,320
when they get into lolls and they get in these

763
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:25,239
lapses on offense that they have to really rely on

764
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,239
their defense to keep things close other otherwise, you know,

765
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,000
they you know, they're a couple times this year they've

766
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,199
fallen behind you know, ten or twelve points and had

767
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,199
to make up some grounds in the second half.

768
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,679
Speaker 5: You don't want to loose go down ten to twelve

769
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,440
points in the mayor out center on these places to

770
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,159
play in the Big twelve.

771
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,079
Speaker 3: It's hard to play in the Big twelve in general.

772
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 5: But if there's a team to get down and come back,

773
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:46,400
I believe it's Houston and Kelvin Sampson.

774
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 3: This is a program that Look, he is a he's

775
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,880
a guy that can really do it.

776
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 5: Look, he had a quote the other day, I'm gonna

777
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,920
watch you just shit some more light on it, you

778
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,760
know about hey or are We have a very poor

779
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,599
athletic department, you know, with in Island everything, and I

780
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:02,000
just speak thinks that speaks more to him and his

781
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,800
his his coaches, his recruiting and everything that you're still

782
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,719
able to get this high level talent win in a

783
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,119
high level play in the National Championship game and you

784
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:10,800
don't have the biggest, you know, nil budget.

785
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: I actually love that.

786
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,039
Speaker 7: Well, I'm just appointed it took you ten and a

787
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:17,800
half minutes to get to that, to get to this question. Yeah,

788
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,880
that that's all the that's all the news that was

789
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,079
going down here. I actually, you know, talked to Kelby yesterday.

790
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:27,360
He clarified some things. I wrote that he basically gave

791
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,920
himself a technical foul for what he said, uh, because

792
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,039
because what happened. You know, he started to get into

793
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,280
the nil after the game. They have won the game,

794
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,119
by the way, and he's getting into nil and he says, look,

795
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:42,639
we're very poor. We were poor when I got here.

796
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,360
We're still poor. And you know, Houston, it's very well

797
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,320
known down here that Houston has been a heavily subsidized

798
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,159
athletic department for many, many years with support from the university.

799
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:59,480
And the latest NCAA financials came out and you know

800
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:01,480
they were they ran a deficit for the second year

801
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,960
in a row. So you got all that stuff and

802
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:04,800
you think that's where he was going with it, but

803
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,280
he actually meant to say, look, we like maybe a

804
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,800
Cincinnati or UCF or b Y, you haven't gotten the

805
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,960
full Big twelve share yet that's coming this spring. So

806
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,599
all those years, at least at Houston's case, where they

807
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:21,679
weren't in a power conference, they've lost out on hundreds

808
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,639
of millions of dollars. Baylor and TCU got those last

809
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:27,519
two spots of the Big twelve among the Texas schools,

810
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:30,920
and I'm sorry Baylor in Texas Tech and then TCU

811
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:34,880
later on. That's just money that Houston never had. That

812
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,440
if they would have had it, this could have been

813
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,480
a totally different story of where they are. So he

814
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:42,480
got into that and he was talking about nil you know,

815
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,480
they it's that they're in an al's just not where

816
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:48,000
a lot of schools are. They've invested in their roster,

817
00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:50,440
you know, they've been able to get several five star

818
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,159
guys like Flemings and Sanaka. They have a couple of

819
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:57,320
other ones coming in next year, but it's nowhere near

820
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,320
you know, Kentucky and Duke and North Carolin Line and

821
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,320
all the other schools that are traditionally up at the top.

822
00:37:03,679 --> 00:37:05,960
So yeah, I mean he he got a little bit

823
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,559
of a called into the principal's office, I guess, so

824
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:12,199
to speak, Uh, with those comments, but he kind of

825
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,679
just he was talking to it as a whole, mostly

826
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,280
about nil and just needing to somehow start bridging that

827
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,000
gap with the revenue distribution from the conference that's coming

828
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:23,440
here in the next few months.

829
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 5: Thank you for shedding the light on that. Look, I

830
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:27,800
knew I was gonna ask the question.

831
00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:28,679
Speaker 3: Probably not.

832
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,519
Speaker 5: I didn't be the first one. I just had to

833
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,079
get the game thing and then transition.

834
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 7: You had to slow us into it. I get you exactly.

835
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 5: I was going, like Houston, I wanted to, you know,

836
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,559
slow you down, and I wanted to speed you up,

837
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,199
you know, in.

838
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:41,039
Speaker 3: Transition a little bit the way I wont before. Then.

839
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,079
Speaker 5: H No, we're on the line with Joe Stuarte. He's

840
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,480
a beat writer for the Houston Chronicle. Here right now

841
00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:50,599
here on ESPN, uh the fan. What way can be

842
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,960
why you win.

843
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: This game tour on?

844
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 5: Maybe from your perspective, and look, I'm not picking them.

845
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,519
And one I'm gonna tell you right now, I do

846
00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:58,599
a basketball pre game show. This is one of the

847
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:00,280
teams they haven't beaten in the Big Twelve. I don't

848
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,880
know if it gets done tomorrow, just with how great

849
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,639
of a coach Kelvin Simpson is and right now BUYU struggling.

850
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:09,119
Man lost his last three games, four of his last five.

851
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:12,239
The defense is struggling. And I just think, you know,

852
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,400
you mentioned it. Even when Houston gets down, they find

853
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,880
a way to claw themselves back.

854
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 7: I think, you know, there's maybe something from like the

855
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,280
Tech game. Tech Tech control the boards, and that's one thing.

856
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,960
You know, Houston in the past has been traditionally one

857
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,199
of the top rebounding teams in the country and in

858
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,960
fact and offensive rebounds. You know, they had been anywhere

859
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,719
from maybe third to tenth over the last few years

860
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,039
and I believe they're about twenty fifth right now. So

861
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,360
you know, they got killed on the board, especially the

862
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,000
offensive boards against Texas Tech. That's where some teams have

863
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:51,039
been able to gain some ground, so to speak. And

864
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:53,159
you know, if you have the home court like you

865
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,320
do at the Marriott Center, maybe you got to force

866
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,119
them into some stuff early. You got to get them

867
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:02,400
to maybe be some uncharacteristic turnovers. That kind of thing

868
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,440
is because they don't beat themselves and that and that's

869
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,360
what the discipline comes in with Kelvin teams. He uh,

870
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,039
you know, they they they match, they they scout and

871
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:15,159
then they do their matchups and they always find an

872
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,920
edge that if you have two or three guys, they

873
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,079
find a way to shut down one or two of them,

874
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,320
or at least take a couple of them out of

875
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,199
out of what their normal game plan would be, uh,

876
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,639
and how they do against other teams. So you know,

877
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:30,280
there there's it's certainly you know, there's there's a code

878
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,679
to crack to beat them. And I don't think many

879
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,280
schools have figured that out over the years, but certainly,

880
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,599
you know, the rebounded aspect has been a little bit

881
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:42,119
of a one uh through the you know, the first

882
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:44,480
you know, twenty two games or whatever it's been so far.

883
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 5: I don't know if you do score predictions, uh, Joe,

884
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,679
but how do you see this one plan out?

885
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:52,599
Speaker 3: Could just be why you crack the code tomorrow.

886
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,599
Speaker 7: I mean, I think this is a high sixties, low

887
00:39:56,679 --> 00:39:59,440
seventies game. I mean I think, uh, I don't see

888
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,400
this on a way at any point, you know, I

889
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,039
can see Houston by five or so four or five.

890
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,639
But you know, it's it's it's really uh. Yeah, the

891
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:12,400
the you hit it earlier in the show about just

892
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,480
being able to win on the road in conference and

893
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,440
I saw a great stat from the b YU Athletic

894
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:20,480
Department where you know, Houston's doing the two game road

895
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:23,880
swing to Utah, and only one school, Texas Tech, has

896
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,440
ever won both of their games on that swing. Everybody

897
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,400
else has either lost boats or split. So this is

898
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,639
a tough This is a tough next few days for them.

899
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:37,840
And then they get the uh the gauntlet of Iowa State,

900
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,559
Arizona and Kansas. Uh So uh, I can I can

901
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:45,480
see a split on this road game. I can see

902
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,119
them losing on Saturday.

903
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

904
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,519
Speaker 7: But you know, they they're they're a little bit on

905
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:51,679
a on a roll right now, and I think they'll

906
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,440
they'll be prepared. I don't think it's gonna be The

907
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:57,400
environment is not going to to shell shock them. They

908
00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:02,199
they they respect what Byu has Kelvin raids about the

909
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,039
crowd there. But you know they've been in some big

910
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:05,960
environments before.

911
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, the mayor At Center, although it's one of the

912
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,280
tougher places to play in the big twelven in the country.

913
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,239
Houston came in you know last year, the year before

914
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,280
they played in this. They are not going to be phased.

915
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,679
And that speaks to just the preparedness Kelvin has for

916
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,760
his team and I respect that that when they won

917
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,039
that seventy seven to seventy four, or maybe it was

918
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:29,639
seventy five, I can't remember, Trevornill had the opportunity to

919
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:32,079
tie and he missed a shot and they weren't phased

920
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:33,559
that game, and I was very impressed. And I've been

921
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:35,840
a big fan ever since by you and Houston been

922
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,960
in the conference. And I've seen this program play Kevin

923
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,320
Young twenty four and three at home in his two years,

924
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,039
and the two of the three losses come to ranked teams.

925
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:46,000
So that tells you how good this Big Twelve is.

926
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:48,000
I'll finish up on this one. I'll get you out

927
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,719
of here on this. Just your thoughts on the Big

928
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,480
Twelve Conference in this freshman class. You mentioned a golf

929
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:55,840
that you gotta play, Darren Peterson. Just your takeaways and

930
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,760
evaluations of it.

931
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 7: Well, well, first, on the on the conference. You know

932
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,920
last year you thought I saw everything when Houston went

933
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,239
nineteen and one. I mean that was remarkable in itself,

934
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,320
and it showed by them getting to the championship game

935
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:14,039
at the final four. But you know this year you

936
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:16,960
look at Arizona and is there a team right now

937
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,679
that can beat them, and I think right now they're one.

938
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: On the list.

939
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 7: I don't even think there's a one, A, one B.

940
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,320
I think they're a clear number one. And then you've

941
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,280
got Houston and then the one that I don't think

942
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,639
many people are talking about Iowa State. You know, a

943
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:33,440
couple of weeks ago, when they lost those games, I thought, Okay, well,

944
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,360
maybe maybe there's some kings in the armor. But no,

945
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:41,519
I mean, they're just as much of a threat. Texas

946
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,639
Tech just doesn't go away. I mean, they just find

947
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:47,000
a way, and they've got probably one of the best

948
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,920
players in the country with j T. Topkins, and then

949
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,039
you got Byu. So to me, I think the league

950
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:55,159
is in Kansas. I mean, I got an eleven year

951
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:58,960
old who follows the rankings religiously. He's like, Dad, Kansas

952
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:00,800
wasn't even on the rate are a couple of weeks ago.

953
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,960
Now they're almost at the top ten. I'm like, that's

954
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,880
how quickly things could change. You know, Peterson we think

955
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,840
is healthy, we think he'll get through the rest of

956
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,400
the season. They'll play him. So you've got five or

957
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,639
six schools right there alone that not only you know,

958
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,440
will contend for the conference title. I think two of

959
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,920
them can can make the final four, maybe three of them.

960
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:21,760
You know the Big East City what back in the

961
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:24,239
late eighties at one time where they say three of

962
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,440
the four. Uh, you know, the Big Twelve could at

963
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:29,320
least get two in there, depending on how the regions

964
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,719
work out. So you know that's from a team standpoint.

965
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,800
And then you know we've talked about all the freshmen.

966
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,360
I'd hate to be the guy who has to pick

967
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,360
Freshman of the Year or the the awards there, because

968
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:41,199
I mean you could you could have them. You know,

969
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,760
a bunch of them are are going to be first teamers.

970
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,280
And then by the way, you know, you look at

971
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,800
the NBA mock drafts. You know, I think nine of

972
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,320
ten overall and the cross basketball college basketball are in

973
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,320
the lottery right now. The kind of the top ten

974
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,519
picks are all freshmen. And you got co O Pete

975
00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:01,679
from Arizona. There's another. So I mean, this is a

976
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,960
wild year for the Big Twelve, not only from the

977
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,559
youth aspect, but the fact that you've got a really

978
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:10,440
top heavy group of teams that could all compete for

979
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,280
a national title.

980
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,159
Speaker 5: You're now wrong, great time to be a basketball fan.

981
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Great time for our business to be beat writers, to

982
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,440
be radio talents and broadcasters and producers. This is a

983
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,360
wonderful time. I gotta let you go. You got other

984
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,920
responsibilities before I do. What's the best way we can

985
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support you? What you do, your work and how you

986
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do it?

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Speaker 3: Just you know.

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Speaker 7: I we're at Houston Chronicle dot com and I'm on Twitter.

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Joseph Underscore Duarte d U A R T E. And

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you know, look forward to my first trip to the

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Marriott Center tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Look forward to seeing you down there, Joe. Safe travels.

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We'll see in provo.

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Speaker 7: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: We'll let Joseph Duarte go.

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Speaker 2: Pregame show on one oh three nine that ninety eight

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Speaker 3: Now, welcome back to Cougars.

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Speaker 5: Excuse me now, Cougar spart my apologies, been doing too

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much for Ben goodness gracious this week. Welcome back to

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gonna get into our score predictions.

1040
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Speaker 3: Uh what do we think the keys to the game are?

1041
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,639
Speaker 5: But when it just reminds you guys, you can put

1042
00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:00,599
your score prediction on line of acrid Benjamin. If you

1043
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:03,400
want to actually get the Royal Lomie brand giveaway, they're

1044
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gonna be giving away a blackout BYU beat Digger T.

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What you need to do is you need to go

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to follow at crital Benjamin as well and tag a friend.

1049
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That's what you need to do. You do that, you

1050
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,679
have an opportunity to win that giveaway. And this is

1051
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,280
what they're doing for the Black Team giveaway or as

1052
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a reminder, they want to know over over under, over

1053
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:37,039
under they're putting under and links will rob right have

1054
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:39,639
over under four and a half assists, Richie Saunders over

1055
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,119
under eighteen point five points, Canard Davis Junior one point

1056
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,639
five three point attempts, not makes, that's attempts. Guy's got

1057
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:48,719
to remind you of that Gambikada over under or seven

1058
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,280
and a half rebounds, aj debanonsa over under twenty two point

1059
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,800
five points, and bill you bench players combined ten point

1060
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,320
five points. The first person to get them all right

1061
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,559
or gets most of them right will win this b YU,

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into an ap.

1065
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,159
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get your score prediction first and pro it's

1066
00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:14,199
not not predictions. I guess your keys to the game,

1067
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,119
and then I'll wrap up the caboose before we close it.

1068
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: Out well, Ron my keys to the game. It's really

1069
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,000
tough because this Houston team is just so good. Yes,

1070
00:48:25,639 --> 00:48:29,199
but my keys to the game is gonna it's gonna

1071
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:33,960
sound a little weird. I need the ball to move

1072
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,280
because we see so much ISO ball with this BYU

1073
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,639
team lately. Hm, I don't think you can play that

1074
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:46,400
way against a team like Houston and be successful. I

1075
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,880
think you need to move the ball, and I think

1076
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,840
you need more shots from players outside to Big three.

1077
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,320
And I say that not because I think that the

1078
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,360
Big three are can't get it done. It's actually to

1079
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,719
unlock the Big three because this Houston team can. They

1080
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,920
can guard all three of them easily if they're the

1081
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,840
only ones playing. Essentially, if they're the only ones taking shots,

1082
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:12,119
it's not gonna be hard for Houston to defend the

1083
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:15,519
Big three. A lot of teams can't, Houston can. So

1084
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:18,880
I need players outside the big three to take shots

1085
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,159
and make some and that unlocks and opens up Richie Saunders.

1086
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:25,679
He'll be more open because you can't double him when

1087
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:28,960
you've got other guys hitting big shots. And so that's

1088
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,960
my key to the game. Do I think that's gonna happen?

1089
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,519
I I just it's hard to change the identity of

1090
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:41,400
your team on the fly like this, and isoball quite

1091
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,320
frankly has been BYU's offensive identity, and so I think

1092
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,760
that's gonna be really tough to do. I'm going to

1093
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,360
pick Houston to win this game, probably, and I think

1094
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,639
it'll be relatively close. I'm hoping so because the Marriott

1095
00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:01,599
Center is gonna work magic. I think the crowd's gonna

1096
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:03,360
be able to keep this team in it for a while.

1097
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,239
But I do think Houston's gonna win this game somewhere

1098
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,000
around seventy seven to seventy.

1099
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,639
Speaker 5: Hey, seventy seven to seventies and not a bad pick.

1100
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:14,679
I mean me and Ape both aren't off. He's saying

1101
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,119
seventy seven to seventy. I'm gonna go seventy five seventy,

1102
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:20,960
so we're actually right on board. I think he used

1103
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,400
to scores two less points. I also think they get

1104
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,880
the dub. Look, I told you guys all this week,

1105
00:50:26,519 --> 00:50:29,800
people probably are thinking I'm eor now right. I think

1106
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,960
I'm saying that right. I'm negative. I'm being honest, apim

1107
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,920
like people probably think I am that way. Then I switched. No. Look,

1108
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,360
you heard the debate yesterday with me on air with

1109
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,559
Brad and Caleb. I BYU fans and people sometimes man,

1110
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,960
after one win, they're like, oh, back on track of it.

1111
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,440
It's like get way too natty baby exactly, and it's like, no, no,

1112
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:54,079
Like when you do as someone in the business, you

1113
00:50:54,159 --> 00:50:55,639
try to be objective and you look at it down

1114
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:57,199
in the middle. If they if they went to night,

1115
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,960
it's their biggest one of the season. But did you

1116
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,199
see the Baylor Ioways stay game. I watched that one earlier.

1117
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:03,920
I don't know if you had a chance to corner man,

1118
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,079
you see what I mean something like you gotta go down.

1119
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,239
They're they're not like people look at that and they're

1120
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,400
gonna be like, oh, well, by you should be Baylor.

1121
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,239
They shall walking know. They shouldn't like are you serious?

1122
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,400
Like they they might lose that basketball game. Like people,

1123
00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:20,239
this is why I forget. This is why we do this.

1124
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,599
Like Scott Drew is a very good coach. He's won

1125
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:26,920
a national championship, don't get it twisted. He's played against

1126
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,239
b YU and yes he might not has half the number,

1127
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,639
but it's tough to win on the road.

1128
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:34,079
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna push back in you a

1129
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:36,719
little bit. I think you should win that game, but

1130
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,679
it's far from from well.

1131
00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 5: You get people back like that game guarantee wins to

1132
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,719
and that's what they do well. People said to OKLA

1133
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:46,519
was a guarantee, and I was like, I was like,

1134
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:48,119
I don't think it's a guarantee, but I do think

1135
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:48,480
they win.

1136
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,199
Speaker 3: But that's how sometimes it's treated.

1137
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,079
Speaker 5: I'm like this conference after seeing them lose to Oklahoma

1138
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:56,679
State and sing like watching UCF be Texas second, still,

1139
00:51:57,159 --> 00:51:59,360
I mean criminal that they are right for crying out loud.

1140
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,159
I'm not gonna get it that. But there's a lot

1141
00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:04,920
of good basketball teams that can beat you on the

1142
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,679
road in your house, and that you can also lose

1143
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,679
to on the road in their house. It's just it's tough,

1144
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:13,760
and I think this is one of the games where

1145
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,599
wins are hard to come by. But Kelvin Sampson is.

1146
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:19,960
It's dep taxes and Kelvin Sampson for a reason. I

1147
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:22,960
keep joking about them, but I'm also being serious this team.

1148
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,239
I have not seen the college basketball team that's able

1149
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:31,079
to get down eight, ten, twelve points like Houston and

1150
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,000
then just exhaust you. They just they wear you down.

1151
00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:36,639
Man like they just they don't give up. I told

1152
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:39,519
you guys last year, or when Malik Wilson he's going

1153
00:52:39,559 --> 00:52:41,679
for a ball out of bounds in the Big Teal Tournament,

1154
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,000
diving and falling in the first world in a friend

1155
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,400
for Shila and people, and I'm like, what is going on?

1156
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,920
But that's who that team was, and that's why the

1157
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,719
National Championship they were the runner ups. And yes they

1158
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,679
aren't the offensive team that were last year. And Bau

1159
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:54,719
has a chance, but I mean, this team really does

1160
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,519
well on offensive rebound inside. Now you can't get him defensively,

1161
00:52:57,599 --> 00:52:59,519
means you have to clean your boards up. But that

1162
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:02,360
means the what you have to do is Kiba has

1163
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,679
to come out and set the tone. B Do has

1164
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,840
to come in and be Do just can't. He can't

1165
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,599
just rebound and blocks.

1166
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: He b Do needs to stop having this constrained statistic

1167
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,199
where he has as many points as he does fouls.

1168
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a that's a good point. I didn't even

1169
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,000
think about that. Well, and that's the thing, but then

1170
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:22,320
you think about it. They didn't bring him in to

1171
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,920
do bunnies, Okay, so it's like, well, then where those

1172
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,599
points gonna come from? Then because they be if that's

1173
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:30,119
not his role, let's talk about that, bringing him in

1174
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:33,039
just to be a rim protector. Excuse me, burkere to

1175
00:53:33,039 --> 00:53:36,159
I apologize. What is then who's gonna make up for it?

1176
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,280
That means the three ball has to be following. They

1177
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,480
have to push and transition and even with him in

1178
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:42,159
the back, like that's what it has to be. That

1179
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:44,760
means you might have to play Hadeen Boop a little

1180
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,079
bit more and he might have to take him more

1181
00:53:46,119 --> 00:53:47,000
than one three tonight.

1182
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,519
Speaker 1: Well, and and that's why I'm saying when I gave

1183
00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:54,320
my keys to the game and that you need players

1184
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,920
outside the big three to take and make big shots.

1185
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:00,760
It can't just be three bench points. It can't. It

1186
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,039
is it's it's it's a problem to happen. Is a

1187
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:08,079
problem players outside the Big three scoring less than ten points. Yeah,

1188
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:09,920
and I know there's several games where they score more

1189
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,119
than that, but it feels like there's also several where

1190
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:15,440
they have it and it's been a real problem. Yeah,

1191
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:16,920
and I and I don't want to say this to

1192
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,199
be down but it's just to point out the fact

1193
00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:21,679
that like By has got to change the way that

1194
00:54:21,679 --> 00:54:24,199
they're approaching the game if they want to correct the

1195
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,119
slide they're on.

1196
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta correct this louder your on ap brings

1197
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:29,840
up a very good point.

1198
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,039
Speaker 3: Look you don't. It's uh, it's like, what do they say,

1199
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,079
what's the Incredibles thing? Not good?

1200
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:41,599
Speaker 5: Bob not uh, not happy, Bob not happy, Bob not happy,

1201
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,320
not happy. Look, it might be a lot of bofense

1202
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,079
not happy and not happy that we're picking them. But

1203
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,119
like I, it's gonna be tough. I'm picking picking the Koogs.

1204
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,119
Not that, not the act, not that not the by

1205
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:54,400
U Kog's. The Houston Cook Tonight is the twelfth all

1206
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,039
time made between the two programs, and Houston's second trip

1207
00:54:57,039 --> 00:54:58,760
to the maryrit as a member of the Big twelve

1208
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,280
bou three and eight all time, three and eight all

1209
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,679
time against the Kougs. That's with two o's and a

1210
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,840
one in three record in pro. I think that's gonna

1211
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,280
turn into one and four. I really hope I am wrong.

1212
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,880
But it's tough. It's tough, and it really is, and

1213
00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:14,880
I mean check us out. The Cougars are twenty four

1214
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,599
and three at home under second coach, second year head

1215
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:21,199
coach Kevin Young, two of three losses come to ranked teams.

1216
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:25,039
Tonight is the ranked team we will see. I mean

1217
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:27,159
they're gonna come after Jay. Look, I was talking to

1218
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,119
some people yesterday. You heard it in the last secondent

1219
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,239
one of the interviews that we had yesterday. They're gonna

1220
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,639
hunt matchups. And I was talking to some people even

1221
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,760
off record, you know, from Houston, and they're gonna hunt

1222
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,480
Rob Right, I'm gonna tell you right now. They see

1223
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,480
it on tape. It's not a secret. It isn't and

1224
00:55:43,519 --> 00:55:46,480
they're gonna go hunt it as they should. As they

1225
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,760
should too. They should. Boy is gonna pretty much have

1226
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,920
everybody else that he does he normally just to give

1227
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,840
you a little injury report, So Brody, obviously it's gonna

1228
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,840
stay out. kJ Perry's redshirt and its White's out, Nate Dawson, Xavier,

1229
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,599
same people that have been out the last couple of days.

1230
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:02,960
Everybody else will be available and will play. I think

1231
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,239
you're gonna see the rotation get super deep tonight, super deep.

1232
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,119
I think everybody could play, and if people gonna run

1233
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,239
us to a nope, everybody can play. Because when you're

1234
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,320
playing a team like Houston, everybody, I think needs to

1235
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,840
be able to get minutes.

1236
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,559
Speaker 3: Dominica, I think is gonna be valuable.

1237
00:56:18,599 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 5: It's gonna be multitudes hadem everybody, Kaba, Kevin Yann is

1238
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,000
gonna use everybody's five fouls tonight, and this is gonna

1239
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,239
be a very physical ball club. But I got seventy

1240
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,840
five to seventy Houston. I think Houston is able to

1241
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:32,880
you know, I don't think they dominate the glass board,

1242
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,719
but I think they press Bau ninety four feet and

1243
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,280
they just make it really tough for the Big Three,

1244
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,599
and they slow one of them down to win this

1245
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,000
ball game. But it'll be a goin. But I still

1246
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,719
think they do enough to get out of there. And

1247
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,920
Bau doesn't get his first one against Oklahoma, excuse me,

1248
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,320
Houston in the Big twelve, and then they'll have to

1249
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,639
travel down to Texas to bounce back against Baylor. That

1250
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:54,840
will do it from us, They'll do it for Andrew Peterson.

1251
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:57,360
For myself, I'm Ronald the three Man. We appreciate you

1252
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,000
tuning in to the Cougar Basketball pre game show. Apologies

1253
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,679
for not giving it to you on Wednesday for Oklahoma

1254
00:57:02,679 --> 00:57:04,760
State was a little bit under the weather, but I'm

1255
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,480
back now finally at glad that I'm able to be

1256
00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:07,960
out of the house. I will be down at the game,

1257
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,920
follow everything that I'm posting down there, at Critle, Benjamin

1258
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,159
and at Ron, the three Man Weave all be in postgame,

1259
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:17,280
all of it, and we'll catch you guys back next week.

1260
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:18,559
Speaker 3: Next Tuesday.

1261
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 5: There won't be a pregame show unless we do it

1262
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,480
earlier because by you would tip off against Baylor at five.

1263
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 3: Just to give you a little bit of an update.

1264
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,079
It's weird timing. I know that's just the way it's

1265
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:29,079
set up, So that's just what we'll have.

1266
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 5: But then we'll get caught back up with you Saturday

1267
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:35,880
when BYU takes on Colorado Valentine's Day to those special

1268
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,199
ones that have someone in their life, or even if

1269
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:40,119
you want to celebrate yourself, you still can do that too.

1270
00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:42,159
And the retirement and Jimmer, we will definitely be doing

1271
00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:44,320
a Brucker basketball pre game show, but until then we'll

1272
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,079
wish you farewell.

1273
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: Save travels to the game. Ap and myself