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Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Big Ten Paradigm podcast

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here on the College grid Iron Coast to Coast Podcast Network.

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Please welcome in, Noah Drury. It's we covered the Big

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Ten throughout this whole entire twenty twenty five college football season.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Big Ten Paradigm here on the

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College grid Iron Coast to Coast Network. I'm glad you

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could be here. My name is Noah Drury. As here

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to the intro, a lot of stuff happening in college football.

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As of recent Penn State found a head coach. That's

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always a good news, and I think that is a

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good hire. As the day of this recording, Sharon Moore

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has been let go by the University of Michigan with cause,

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so they will not be half that buy out, which

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is uh, I guess is good news for them in

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terms of finding a different head coach. And then I

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currently just got an alert for you has been entertained

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by Selene Police, which Salene's kind of a suburb of

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the Ann Arbor area. So I guess we could break down,

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maybe not necessarily what happened with Sharon Moore, because all

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of it is rumor base. There's never been an official

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statement of what he has been charged with, and the

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reason for firing I think is some for some sort

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of staffer. That's to what my knowledge and all I'm

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going to put out over the air waves. First things first,

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the Big Ten Championship did happen this past Saturday, and

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Tyler Danberg all Stanley good job breaking it down, which

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I talked to him earlier this week and got it

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on the record. And you know, Tyler a friend of

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the program, someone I appreciate, someone that's always you know,

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keeping me in the loop with Ohio State football. And

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you know they got a first round buying the College

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Football Playoff. But first things first, the game itself Indiana,

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really you know, they they weren't dominant on the offensive side,

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but the one drive with Fernando Mendoza and this team

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being able to get down in the red zone, the

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touchdown that they got was absolutely massive in that third quarter,

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a seven play, eighty eight yard drive. I mean, they

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just they executed it so well. That fifty one yard

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pass was one of the best passes I've seen from

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Fernando Mendoza, just a great post route and they cap

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it off with a seventeen yard passing touchdown to Elijah

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Soli Rat And you know, Ohio State in the fourth

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quarter goes on a fifteen play drive that last eight minutes,

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you know, the same thing they did against Michigan to

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close out the game. Right, they go down and they

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simply miss a field goal from Jayden Fielding. And you know,

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Jayden Fielding is been a kicker where in the beginning

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of his career is definitely criticized by Ohio State fans.

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And yeah, unfortunately missed it. And you know what, couldn't

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show up in a big moment. And like Tyler you'll

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hear later in the show, but he described vibes Jane

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Fielding the type of person he is, and it's not

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someone that deserves a bunch of criticism or anything or

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any hate mail, like he simply just missed his kick.

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I mean a lot of people, you know, I fail

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at my job. Everyone fails at their job, not to

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an extent of like, oh it's like reason for terminations,

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but like everyone makes mistakes. Man, it's not like everybody's perfect.

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And you know what, Ohio State still has a chance

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to compete for a national championship. And on the end

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of Indiana Hoosier side. I mean, this team hasn't won

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an outright Big Ten championship since nineteen forty five, and

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they haven't beat Ohio State in like thirty something games,

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the last thirty games that they've played. I mean, this

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is just phenomenal work from the Hoosiers, and you got

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to give it all starts with Kurt Signetti. You know.

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I remember I kept getting these interviews and pressers and

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everything from him when he got hired as a head coach, right,

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and he was, you know, tall, talking a ton about, Oh,

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We're gonna go beat Ohio State, you know, Michigan, you know,

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all these teams and obviously the Big Ten reformed as

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well in his first season. Coming into it were Oregon's

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in the Big Ten, Washington, U, se LA, and USC

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and while last year might have been more of a

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fluky run. And I mean it's a first year head

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coach man, Like I don't think you understand it is

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super hard to take over a program in the first

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year and find immediate success like he has, really and

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I blame him for this, not to his fault, because

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I mean, he did a spectacular job, but there's a

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lot less of a I guess window for opportunity in

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terms of teams and donors and all these factors, you know,

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waiting for a head coach to start having success. I mean,

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look at Michigan State Jonathan Smith. You know, he had

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a below average first two years, and you know, the

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Michigan State didn't want to stick it out and they

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how You're Pat Fitzgerald, which personally, I think is a

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great hire. And I'm a big Pat Fitzgerald. I was

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a fan of him at Northwestern. I thought he was

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a good head coach. Obviously he had the whole thing

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at Northwestern with the hazing incident or whatever. He was

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found out a part of that at all. And I think,

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you know, especially with the for Sparta four hundred and

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one million dollar donation to the school in two hundred

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and ninety million for athletics, like they really believe in

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this guy. He had was had the crowd fired up

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at the basketball game. He's been He's been electric, man,

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He's been electric. And I'm super excited to see, you know,

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what the future holds for Michigan State. But back to

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the Indiana side, Like I mean, this is just such

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a good team and I think what they were missing

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last year was physicality in the front seven, and man,

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don't they have it? Like Bo Jackson, Yes, he's still

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technically had a productive day on the ground, but Indiana

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was playing gap sound football from the linebackers. Their defensive

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line was able to get pressure on Julian Sand, something

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Julian Sand didn't face all season. I mean, let's be honest,

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Ohio State, like other than that first game versus Texas,

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which Texas is a legitimate defense, you know, Ohio State

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didn't face much adversity this season, Let's be honest, like

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other than Week one, like in that you know, that

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was what three months ago almost for three and a half,

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to play perfect and you know, their first big game

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in forever, Like I know, the game was a big

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game to them, and unfortunately, you know, they got they

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got got and you know, to be fair, that could

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have been the two best teams that might play for

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a national championship. Again, honestly, like I think these are

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two of the best teams in college football. They went

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toe to toe. It was a three it was a

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three point game, a one score game, literally a field

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goal and you know, Indiana got done on a neutral site.

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you know, congrats to the Hoosiers on winning the twenty

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twenty five Big Ten Championship and also being the number

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one seed in the College Football Playoff. They were unanimously

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number one in the AP poll as well, first time

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in the history of that program as well. So, I mean,

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they're just accomplishing so much stuff under Kurt Signetti. And

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you know, I really am like, oh my gosh, is

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Indiana just gonna become this juggernaut that we all hate

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in like three years? So like, are they gonna be

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the new Ohio State? Are they gonna be the new Bama?

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Speaker 2: I mean, there is realm there is possibility for that

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for sure. As for the playoff rankings, Indiana's one, Ohio

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State's two, and Oregon is five and they play James Madison,

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so we will break Are we gonna have to break

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that game down? I mean, no discredit to James Madison,

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But I believe the only power for school that they

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played this year was Louisville and you know, they lost

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them by two scores. And to be fair, I think

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Louisville should have been ashed stronger on the season. I'm

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someone that you know really likes Jeff brom and you

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know what he does with that team. And I mean

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they lost by two scores. They were close in that game,

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but I mean everyone else on their schedule is either

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from the Sun Belt or the Group of five level,

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Sun Belt championship game down to the end, like we

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almost thought like is Troy gonna win the Sun Belt?

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and four at the time or no, they were seven

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and five, seven and five duke team which they won

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the ACC absolutely crazy, but it's like, is this duke

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team really gonna get in or are they gonna have

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to put a different you know, G five ch Is

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Western Michigan gonna get a chance?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: Or all running down all the possibilities, right, But yep,

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James Madison is in the college football playoffs. They are

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currently twenty one and a half point dogs to the

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Ducks fifty and a half over under. The JMU money

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line is plus eleven hundred. So if you think that

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the Dukes of James Madison are gonna get the upset.

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I mean, you might as well place it down because

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that is a fair chunk of change coming back your way.

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see James Madison upset. Obviously I'm going to root for

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Oregon because you know, I want the Big ten teams

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to succeed. And they get to play Texas Tech the

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week after. And I don't know what to think of

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Texas Tech because their one loss was to Arizona State.

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weren't playing with Baron Morton. I don't know if Baron

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Morton's really that much of a contributor where it's like, oh,

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you need him every single snap of every single game.

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starter if you have them, right, So there is that note.

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Looking at other things, First of all, Penn State hires

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Matt Campbell. Matt Campbell a great, great head coach. I mean,

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he's definitely the most successful coach in Iowa State history.

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for a really long time, and all of a sudden,

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Matt Campbell, you know, and comes in around I think

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twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen in that era. And keep in

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mind mac am has been in the mentions for a

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lot of these jobs over the years just because of

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the job he's done. I mean, he's won a Big

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Twelve Championship there, He's had that team the Big Twelve Championship.

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He's produced guys like Rock obeckt In Brock Purty. He's

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produced you know, very talented receivers like you can Savior Hutchinson.

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really recruit you know, low level talent and develop him.

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Now he's got the opportunity to go to this place

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in College Station, Pennsylvania and or Happy Valley or whatever

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you you know, decided to call it. He gets to

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go to Penn State and you know, he gets the

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opportunity to have more, you know, access to recruits. And

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I know the recruiting class looks super bad for Penn

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State right now because you know, I mean, they they

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didn't have a head coach in the national signing period

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and you know a lot of the kids flipped to

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Virginia Tech where James Franklin is now, and you know,

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it's going to be a definitely a tough process to

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start out, but he's definitely probably gonna bring Roco backed

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over if he doesn't. Design to say, I think rock

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anyone that's like ooh, like he's you know, first round

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NFL talent, but he is a good college quarterback that

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you know, could be a backup or you know, a

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starter if he really develops well in the NFL. And

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bring off that Iowa State team and Iowa State this year,

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the defensive side. Like it's not the season that probably

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they wanted to have, but I mean they still were

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relatively successful in the Big twelve and they're a good team. Man.

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I'm super I'm super fired up for Penn State. I

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think this is a home run. Higher who will he

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signed at the coordinators, I don't know. Penn State had

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so much with crumbled Cookie and Klonie Sataki didn't want

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to take the job and oh are they gonna wait

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for Kaitlin to bore? You know, all these different things

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that you're gonna hear from people, and it's just like, man,

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just just take Matt Campbell as someone that I mentioned

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early on as someone that I thought should have been

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the head coach to begin with, and you know what,

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he's a He's a great hire for this team. I

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don't think that. I don't think that it was, you know,

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really a surprise to me, to be honest, and I

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think it's a great hire for the program. On the

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UCLA side of things, I hire Bob Chesney out of

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James Madison. He's done a great job taking over for

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Kurt Signetty in these two seasons since he's been gone.

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they're in a college football playoff, you know, just recently

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joining the FBS. I mean it's not like this is

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a like team that's been around in the FBN. No,

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they were in the FCS I believe like five six

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years ago and they finally joined. I mean, to you know,

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even get to that feet and you know what, you

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might be like, well, James Madison doesn't deserve to get

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in over Notre Dame, b YU, all these other teams,

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which I agree, I don't think the college football playoff format.

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four guaranteed conference championships. And I know they're talking about

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expansion and all these different things, because you know, here's

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my thing on what the college football playoff should be

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the reason why college football playoff is broken is because

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it can't be a perfect system. Every team's gonna get robbed.

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Every team's gonna be like, oh man, we deserve to

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get it over this team because we have this and

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they don't have that, and this, that and the other thing.

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It's like, I mean, look, it's not a perfect format.

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I don't think there's a perfect format for any sport

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in any situation. You know, the MLB expanded their playoff.

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The NFL has expanded their playoff, put in a play

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in tournament where two thirds of the league makes technically

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the postseason. I mean, all in all, if you're looking

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at it relative to the numbers in the league, and

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let's be honest, one hundred and thirty six or is

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it thirty eight now, I don't know, teams keep out

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of here, right, one hundred and thirty six to thirty

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eight teams don't deserve to, you know, be probably in

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the FCS or FBS, and you know there should probably

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be another division made for the G five, G six teams, right,

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And you know when you give the opportunity to a

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team like Tulane and a team like James Madison, you

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know where they gonna make it. I mean the ACC.

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wins and the differential and all these different things allow

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Duke to be in there. So that's the ECC's fault.

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You could have just taken Hey, Miami is going to

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make it out of the tiebreaker because they're the highest

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ring team and they'll play Virginia for a spot. And

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it could have just been as simple as that. And

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people aren't pissed about Mia making it. And I understand

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Miami lost to Louisville and they lost to SMU, and

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do they deserve to be in I don't know. Guess what.

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Alabama lost to Florida State arguably way too worse or

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way worse loss than the two losses Miami has now

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the other one is to Oklahoma, who they're rematching. And

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then on the other side, not your Dame, you lost

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to Miami. I know you lost to texting them too. Yeah,

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that's two college football playoff teams. If you don't beat

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the teams that are ranked ahead of you, you know,

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why do you deserve to get in? Cool? You beat

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Pitt and you beat other teams. You beat Navy, you

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beat Stanford, you beat Syracuse. Like congratulations, that doesn't deserve

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to get you in. I know everything that Notre Dame

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has without accepting their bull bed, but like looking at

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the Notre Dame schedule and I guess this is a

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Notre Dame territory. Of these podcasts, they do have the

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win over USC. That's cool. Guess what Miami has a

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better win because Miami simply beat you. And if you're

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not gonna honor head to head, here's what would happen.

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You would see Ohio State because head to head doesn't matter.

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You would see them play Bowling Green. You would see

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them play Youngstown State, and you would see them play

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you know what, they probably play, like Utah State or

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someone on the West coast, or someone from the South

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like Georgia Southern like and you would see Bama that.

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You would see them play Troy. You would see them

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play not even Memphis. Memphis is too competitive. Probably too.

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Like you see what I'm saying, there's no point or

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it would be a shame if they didn't honor that

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had to head win because you know, why would you

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if you're relatively in the same spot and how a

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hunter you're a check put. It was terrible. Oh they're

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side by side, so we now have to compare them. Well,

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you know that's just bogus, like you should have just

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had them all along. And everyone's like, oh, we don't

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need a weekly ranking show. It's just you know, so

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they could boost ratings and blah blah blah blah blah.

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You know what, we've had a ranking show for over

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ten years and now it's a problem. Now you know,

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the same thing that they've been doing. And I get

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it because it's a twelve team format, but I mean,

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you guys want to expand this thing in the sixteen too,

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and then how's that structure gonna look like? Anyways, I'm

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done ranting about that. Three big ten teams made it,

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and I think that was the right call in you

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know what, for Notre Dame fansoms, I'm sorry your team

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didn't make it, but that's the end of the day.

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You gotta win. Those games. If you want to be

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in so and Indiana will play the winner of Oklahoma

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or Alabama. I think, you know, with how their defense

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is structured, in who they would play like, I think

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Oklahoma would probably be a tougher matchup just because their

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defense is really sound. In Alabama they do have the

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threat of doing stuff on offense, but if you've watched

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that team play in the last month or so, they

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can't run the ball worth the dam, and you know

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their receiving corps is not really stepping up. In Tysimpson,

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I believe ty Simpson is probably you know, facing you know,

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a lot of hits. It's definitely a little banged up,

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and you know these teams get to rest until then, right,

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So I mean, maybe maybe it'll change, I don't know,

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but I mean regardless in the Ohio state all I mean,

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I think that'll be a good game. In Carson Becks,

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you know, ever since those losses, has been playing really

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good football down the stretch. And Miami, you know, they

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have a kid in Malachi Tony and they have a

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running game, Mark Fletcher. They have a bunch of guys

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on the defensive side. Texa A and m is also

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really good too, So you know, that'll be a good game.

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Whoever comes out of that. When they play Ohio State,

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I believe that'll be a good game. It'll be another

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test for Ohio State. And can they go on this run.

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I mean, they probably face the hardest team they'll play

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all season, and they could potentially play them again in

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the National Championship. So on the Bob Chesney note, I

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think UCLA, unless they want to invest more money in athletics,

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is going to be a tough place to coach at.

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But I think he's someone that can get it done.

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I mean, you know, if you want to really make

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your mark and be the next Kurt Signetti, you know,

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and there's gonna be a lot of comparison with that,

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and like, oh, well, this is what Kurt Signetti did

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with you know, a less fortunate program. You know, you

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can you do the same thing. It's gonna be tough.

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It's gonna be tough, and especially for hiring staffers because

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guess what the cost of living in Indiana. You know,

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for a coach that's like on an analyst that makes

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one hundred and fifty k, that one hundred and fifty

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k is worth a lot more in Indiana than it

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is in Los Angeles, California. And I know we shouldn't

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probably compare it that way, but that's just the truth, right,

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Like I mean not saying one hundred and fifty k

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is bad salary by any means, But you know, it's like,

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would you do you want to go, you know, coach

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over there and move with him. It's gonna be tough,

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and but I think he will do a good job

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or has intentions of doing good jobs with UCLA. I

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guess Michigan's open. Now this is just craziness. Who goes

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and takes that Michigan job? I'm not sure. I really

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don't know, because honestly, I think the perfect hire, you know,

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got higher depend state and you know, who are you

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gonna mump up? Is not going to do in house again?

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After the how that just worked out? Right, I don't

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think there's anyone on the staff that you would really

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want to promote to head coach anyways, because they're not

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gonna want to promote Ship Lindsay and wink Martin Dale.

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I don't know if he's really cut out to be

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the head coach. He might be, I don't know. I

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I actually do you know as a Michigan stateman. I

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respect the way that Wank Martindale coaches in terms of

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like what he does schematically on the defensive side. Now,

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I mean, I just I don't even know who you

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go for in this situation, Like you're you're putting such

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a bad spot that you know, it's tough. It's tough

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to to really like think who who would you who

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would you want to take?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, like Kaitlin de Bor does come to mind

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if Alabama fails. I mean the pressure of being the

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Alabama valleys Alabama open now, and who's gonna want to go?

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Islene Giffen jump to take that job? Like I think

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Jetfish would be a good hire. Honestly, I think he

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you know, there's a chance he could go there. I

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heard the Herbi Meyer thing. I always laugh when uh

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that does John Gruden go even though he's someone that

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isn't perfect human being? I don't know, dude, oh man,

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you just make Dave Portnoy the couch Like I say

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that so in like non seriously, because like where that

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where do you even go? Like who do you who

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do you try and go get? You know, signing day

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already happened. I guess the portal, but like, man, dude,

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like it's so tough unless like I like, I don't

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think there's a coach in the Big ten that's gonna

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go take that job, like because I think the only

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coach that would be like Luke Fickle, But Luke Fickle's

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already in a pickle use of words, there already in

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like you know, such a jam, Like I legitimately think

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it would probably be Jed Fish because US season a

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great spot. I don't know if anyone's been paying attention

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to the recruiting rankings there, they've had the number one

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recruiting class, Like, you know, Lincoln Riley's not gonna leave,

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and obviously Dan Lanning's not gonna leave Oregon because Oregon

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might be the best place to be. And then I

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think of SEC coaches. I mean, there's already been so

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much flips there, Like I think Eli Drinkwitz could be

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a great head coach, but would he take that job?

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Probably not. Clonie Siktaki got extended, Matt Ruhle got extended,

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Like who really was gonna Who's really gonna go take

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this job? Of coaches that didn't get extended, and then

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you hire from the G five and if someone mentions

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the name Brian Kelly. No, absolutely not, no chance, not

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at least right now. I'm gonna go hire Jimbo. I'm

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not gonna go get like Dan Mullen. I don't think

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Jason AC's gonna you know, I don't really think they

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want to go after Jason Ack either. Like who do

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you go get? Like I think Spencer Danielson, someone's a

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lifer at Boise State, not any and he would get

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consideration for the job. But like, man, dude, it is

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just it's crazy to think. I mean, maybe PJ. Fleck,

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But are you satisfied with that if you're Michigan. Not

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saying I think PJ. Fleck's a great coach, but and

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you'd be able to actually recruit you know, pretty good

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at Michigan, Like you'd have the resources too at least.

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But I don't know, I don't know who you go get.

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I mean, if you want to sane recruiting classes, you

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can go get Jimbo Fisher who's on the open market.

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And they don't have to pay a buy out either

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with your own more so there is uh, there's that,

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so they can't spend like a nice penny on a

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head coach. But I heard the name John Harbot too.

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I don't think they would do that. Kinder Stallions is

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n't able to be the head coach. I think counter

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Stallions would kill it personally, you know, do you? I mean,

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what do you do? What do you do? What do

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you do? I don't know, Like you try to go

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get Kirk Farence or maybe Phil Parker, like I don't know,

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I don't know. It's it'll be interesting. Also who stays

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on that roster. Miss Bryce under would get to enter

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the transfer portal, and you know, all these different things

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just Saints come back like you know, ah, these different things.

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Andrew Marsh does he want to leave? I mean, they

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have a decent amount of guys leaving for the draft

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on the defensive side too. You know, it's gonna be tough,

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tough place. And I haven't seen any more details about

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the Charon More. I guess quote unquote investigation and reason

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for arrest, So I guess we'll leave that be the

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final thing that we'll do before we get into our

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conversation with Tyler Danberg. I want to thank you for

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listening to the Big Ten paradigm here the Bowl games

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that are happening on December thirteenth, trying to take the

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spotlight away from the Army Navy games. Boise State in Washington,

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they're playing in the bucked up label. Washington's favored by

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nine and a half. I would just expect him on

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Williams to play in this game, so you know there's

474
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gonna be there's gonna be some highlights. I don't know

475
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if Coleman and Boston will play over under fifty two

476
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,960
and a half, and it will be eight o'clock on

477
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December thirteenth on ABC. Let's continue to look down the

478
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list see if there's any other Bowl games of Big

479
00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:07,519
ten teams. I'm still looking, guys. Uh, Northwestern is going

480
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:09,440
to play in the game above Sports Bowl, which I

481
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,240
believe is happening at Ford Field. Could I've seen advertisements

482
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,160
for that. Northwestern favored by ten and a half over

483
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under a forty three and a half. That game will

484
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be on December twenty sixth, the day following Christmas, at

485
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,000
ford Field in the Rate Bowl. And you have New

486
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:29,960
Mexico and Minnesota facing off. Minnesota a two and a

487
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,559
half point favorite over under of forty seven and a

488
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,839
half and that game is going to be played. Where's

489
00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:41,920
Rate Stadium or where's this bowl game at? Oh it's

490
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at Chase Shield. And oh they're playing at the Dodgers Stadium. Wow,

491
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:52,279
in Phoenix, Arizona. They're not Dodgers Diamondbacks. I'm so so sorry. Hey,

492
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:55,160
the two season national champs are playing in the Bad

493
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,960
Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl. Clemson is favored by three boys.

494
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,559
It's over Penn State. Oh my gosh, this is this

495
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,640
is awesome, This is awesome. It's happening at Yankee Stadium

496
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:12,000
in the Bronx. That'll be exciting. Oh man, you know what,

497
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,319
good for them? Yeah, Clemson's favorite by three forty eight

498
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:21,039
and a half point total. Who else? Illinois is playing

499
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,200
Tennessee in the Liberty City or Liberty Mutual Music City Bowl.

500
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Joey Aguilar versus Luke Altmeyer two jag plus quarterbacks. This

501
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game is going to be happening in Nissan Stadium, Nashville, Tennessee.

502
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:37,839
Nashville is a great city. By the way. USC is

503
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:44,480
playing TCU in the Alamobile or Valero Alamobile. USC is

504
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,359
a six point favorite over under fifty nine in a

505
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,839
half playing in the Alamo Zone down in San Antonio, Texas,

506
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,200
Iowa that it's happening. Both those games, by the way,

507
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,839
happening on December thirtieth. On December thirty first two really

508
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,240
good football programs, Iowa and Vanderbilt playing in the Reliquest Bowl,

509
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:09,640
both teams ranked. Vanderbilt is favored by five and a

510
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,960
half total of forty seven and a half. And this

511
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,960
game is going to be happening in TJ Reevesville in Tampa,

512
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,599
Florida at Raymond James Stadium. Wonder if he will be

513
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,640
in attendancer there. It's during the day, so maybe I

514
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,519
don't know. I don't know where the Buccaneers travel. But

515
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:29,279
it is on a Wednesday, so he might not even

516
00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:33,240
be leaving then unless he has a Thursday night game. Uh,

517
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,839
Michigan's playing Texas and the Cheese at Citrus Bowl. Wait

518
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:42,599
they can bind those What that's so stupid? What the heck?

519
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:47,759
Games happening in Orlando, Florida, and Texas is favored by

520
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,880
six and a half over under a forty six and

521
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,640
a half. I wonder if that number is gonna jump

522
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,559
up more. Nebraska and Utah are going to play in

523
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:59,240
the us RS Distribution Las Vegas Bowl also on New

524
00:28:59,319 --> 00:29:03,759
Year's Eve at three thirty. Obviously, the game's gonna happen

525
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:08,640
in Las Vegas and Allegiance Stadium, Nebraska is a fifteen

526
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:15,200
and a half point dog and fifty and a half total. Interesting.

527
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I think that's it for bowl games. Yes, it is

528
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all right, glad we could get through that. And you know,

529
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I mean both seasons always fun. I typically do a

530
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pick them with some friends every year, so I I

531
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probably do that again at some point this year. One

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the Big ten paradigm. Here as we have special friend

563
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of the program, Tyler Danberg, joining the show for those

564
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,039
who have not listened but wanted to hear a recap

565
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of the Big Ten championship. First of all, where have

566
00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:33,759
you been? But second off, he's the sideline reporter for

567
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,720
Ohio State football on ninety seven to Won the Fan

568
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:42,200
and the Ohio State Sports Network, and also does women's basketball,

569
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which he's told me that it's going very well so

570
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far to start the season. And also we'll be doing

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baseball in the spring. Tyler, how's it been, my man?

572
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:53,079
Speaker 4: No, I'm doing great. Everything's been going well.

573
00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: Excited to be back with you talking some more Ohio

574
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,119
State and Big Ten football and it's let me tell you,

575
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,640
it's ann to get the friend of the Program distinction.

576
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: It's great talking football with you.

577
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to start off with I know wasn't the

578
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result that you wanted happening yesterday, But just first things first,

579
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what are your just overall thoughts about last night's game.

580
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Speaker 3: Well, if you're a fan of college football and you

581
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:23,640
loved the story of turning around a program, and turning

582
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,200
around a program so quickly heats off to Indiana, what

583
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:29,640
a story the last two years. I mean, what Kurt

584
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,039
Signetti and his staff have done in this transfer portal

585
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,880
era of football just simply remarkable to see the staff

586
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,119
that he's retained over the last five six years from

587
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his time at James Madison to Indiana, the guys that

588
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have followed him, and the performance that they put together

589
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on both sides of the ball yesterday was really impressive.

590
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Ohio State looking at them, you know, we saw what

591
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Ohio State can do coming out of a loss late

592
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in the Sea because they ripped off five unanswered wins

593
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last year in the College before unanswered wins in the

594
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College Baball Playoff, and Ryan Day and his team when

595
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they come out playing angry, it is a dangerous thing.

596
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And he said today today being Sunday, that losing allows

597
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:28,039
you to rip the band aid off. You have scabs,

598
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and the scabs get ripped off.

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Speaker 4: After a loss.

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Speaker 3: You see things a little differently after a loss than

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you see after a win. So I think if you're

602
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looking at positive takeaways, it's that maybe that this game

603
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,319
wasn't a wake up call. But there are definitely some

604
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,200
glaring things that they're gonna have to monitor over these

605
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:50,559
next two and a half to three weeks leading up

606
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to the Cotton Bowl, some of those things being the

607
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,079
red zone offense, which has kind of had some question

608
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,359
marks throughout the season. I think it really started to

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become a little bit of a glaring issue Week three

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against Ohio when in the first half they weren't able

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to punch the ball in the red zone, and even

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when the red zone efficiency was high they were they

613
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,320
were having to settle for some field goals. And that

614
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leads to another thing, is is the field goal kicking situation? Uh,

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Jaden Fielding missing that twenty seven yarder, you know, that's

616
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that's the tough part about sports as well, is seeing

617
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that happen to somebody who is really well liked and

618
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,239
just getting to talk to him. A very great person,

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very nice, very personable, takes the time, gets to know you.

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Speaker 4: You get to know him, you know, he.

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Speaker 3: He he like he treats everybody on a first name basis.

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That's that's the kind of person Jadeen Fielding is. And

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to see him go through that, missing that kick after

624
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he made eight in a row, you know, it's it's

625
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,119
a tough thing, tough thing to watch, and it was

626
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Athletic director Ross York came over to console him. Maurice Claret,

627
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who's with the team every week. Maurice a one of

628
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the great true freshmen running backs in Ohio State program history,

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maybe in college football, just to see those guys try

630
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,400
to console him. You know, it's it that is the

631
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other side of the thrill of victory and agony defeat.

632
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You know, the special teams has been another thing that

633
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O High State's going to look to try to correct.

634
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Speaker 4: And then you know, looking at I think looking at.

635
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Speaker 3: The kicking scenario, using last year's game against Michigan as

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a little bit of a as a little bit of

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a building block, because Jaden Fielding had a tough game

638
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in that when he missed two kicks from inside forty

639
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,719
yards out, and then he responded by hitting four of

640
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his next five kicks, including the one to win the

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national championship. So I think the key for him is

642
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:53,119
to realize that the best is still yet to come. Obviously,

643
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:55,119
this one is a tough pill to swallow, and you

644
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:57,280
certainly don't want to see somebody as great as Jaden

645
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,320
Fielding as as a person go through what he's had

646
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to go through these last twenty four hours. And hopefully,

647
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hopefully he'll get to have that redemption moment in this

648
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postseason so I think between special teams and trying to

649
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,679
be more efficient in the red zone and then trying

650
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,960
to tune things up on the offensive line, I think those.

651
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Speaker 4: Were those were some of some of the takeaways from

652
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that Big Ten Championship game.

653
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:24,079
Speaker 2: And look, Ohio State had a great regular season, going

654
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:27,400
undefeated in the regular season, and they didn't face really

655
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,800
any adversity. You had the Texas game Week one, and

656
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,559
obviously you know teams are gonna look at certain things,

657
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,719
but an in game situation they didn't have. They didn't

658
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trail in the second half at all this season. They

659
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kind of just cleaned up, took him, took him out

660
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:44,599
to the trash, and you know, the game was done

661
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:46,840
by the third quarter and backups were playing, and you

662
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,159
know everyone was kind of just it was like three

663
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,880
quarter games for Ohio State through a lot of the season.

664
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And that's not to say oh Ohio State can't be

665
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,360
a great team in the playoff and go win a

666
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national championship. Example last year, you know they lost two

667
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,519
in the regular season. Hey, you know they were able

668
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:06,639
to get it done in facing adversity, I think is

669
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:10,960
something that you want to get before the college football playoff, right,

670
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,920
like Indiana going out to Adudson, playing a close game

671
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,440
with Oregon, but they took control of that game obviously

672
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,360
played a close game with Ohio State. Like I'm hearing

673
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,440
a lot of national talking heads talk about this game

674
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being a rematch in the National Championship potentially, but you

675
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:30,119
have to get through the road first, right, Indiana has

676
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:34,519
to either play Alabama or Oklahoma. Right. And while Oklahoma

677
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:39,760
has been non existing offensively, and Alabama, I don't know,

678
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,679
if you watched the SEC championship game yesterday, they did

679
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,559
not look good. But still those are two tough, proven

680
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,679
teams that have gotten good wins on the season and

681
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:49,800
are capable of getting you. And that's where I want

682
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,519
to leave with my next question Texas A and m

683
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in Miami. First of all, who do you think comes

684
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,920
out of the winner in that game and your thoughts

685
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,639
on that matchup? And then who I guess both teams wise,

686
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,920
I guess who you think would come out of the matchup.

687
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,199
Who do you think Ohio State will play? And what

688
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:10,280
do you think the game plan has to be for them? Well?

689
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Speaker 4: I think both.

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Speaker 3: This is really an interesting game. It's kind of a

691
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coin flip, you know, Miami, Miami having those two losses.

692
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,280
You know, I think when you when you pair them

693
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,599
up against Notre Dame, that's also a coin flip on

694
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who gets in. I think that is a little bit

695
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,719
of a the controversy over should Miami get in over

696
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,079
Notre Dame, should Notre Dame get in over Miami, although

697
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,679
Miami is the head to head win. I think that

698
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:47,639
that could have two outcomes. One, maybe Miami shows in

699
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:51,320
that Texas A and M game that Notre Dame should

700
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,079
have been the one to get in in Texas A

701
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:57,960
and M gives them, gives them a little a pretty

702
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:02,559
pretty manageable loss. Or Miami views this as a chip

703
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:07,559
on their shoulder and they they carry that identity and

704
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,280
mindset into that Texas A and M game and they

705
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,000
go to work and come out winners. So I can

706
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:15,679
certainly see that being the case where they they come

707
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:17,840
into this Texas A and M game with a little

708
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,519
bit of the of a chip on their shoulder. I

709
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really don't know who's going to come out with this win.

710
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:24,639
I would like to say Texas A and M. I

711
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,280
think that you put them up against Miami and that

712
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,800
matchup should favor them, you know, in terms of skill

713
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,920
position wise, both teams have great skill position guys like

714
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:41,480
Malachi Tony is just such an incredible freshman talent, and

715
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,880
Carson beck is exactly what you when he's at the

716
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,840
top of his game and he's he's not turning the

717
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,920
ball over and making mistakes, I mean he's he's a

718
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,880
great pro style quarterback. And then on the other side,

719
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,559
Marcel Reid, I mean, this guy, this guy could be

720
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:59,039
a playoff X factor and that's I think that is

721
00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:01,960
one of the things that can be scary against Ohio

722
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:06,599
State's defense. Although the Buckeys have faced some great mobile

723
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:12,000
quarterbacks this year, Mike demon Williams, like Luke Altmeyer, even

724
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:17,880
Arch Manning, and then Fernando Mendoza with his his sneaky athleticism.

725
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 4: And what he was able to do outside the pocket on.

726
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: Sunday, Marcel Reid could be an X factor if Texas

727
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,159
and m were to get past Miami and take on Ohios.

728
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:31,480
Did I think the Aggies are gonna come away with

729
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,639
a win? I think Mike, Mike Alco and his his

730
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,920
defense will find a way. And I think Casey concepts

731
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,960
the one assuming he's he's out there, He's he's so

732
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:47,840
dynamic and they've they've got options all over in three

733
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,599
phases of the game. Because you've seen case Seahouse call

734
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,320
a couple of kicks this year. I think I think

735
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,639
Ohio State what they'll have to do if they if

736
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:59,239
they were to face Texas, A and m I think

737
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,559
they're gonna have to They're gonna have to get to

738
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:04,800
the get to the air early. They're gonna have to

739
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,079
do what they've what they've done in playoff games, passed

740
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:10,599
and just go from the jump.

741
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:12,039
Speaker 4: I think the opening coin.

742
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: Toss can play a big role because in that Tennessee

743
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,800
game last year, in the first round of the CFP,

744
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:18,480
usually Ohio State's a deferred team.

745
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 4: They wanted the ball, they got it, and they needed

746
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,719
i think four plays to get down the field.

747
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 3: They're gonna want to stake their claim really early, and

748
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,639
I think a fast start is gonna be a key.

749
00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:30,400
Whether it's Texas and that or Miami, whoever they face,

750
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,760
they're gonna want to start off fast.

751
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. My only concern with Marcel Reid is he is

752
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:38,679
someone that relies on explosive plays in order to be

753
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,360
you know, effective in the passing game and out of

754
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,840
the and getting out outside the pocket right, and I

755
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,840
think Miami's defensive line, especially with a guy like Ruben Bain,

756
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,400
you know, that might not be so easy for text

757
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,280
saying down, but I think it's a good matchup overall

758
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,320
between the two teams, and whoever Ohio State has to

759
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,559
play is going to be a tough game. And if

760
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,679
SA and m you know, theoretically wins, that's also a

761
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:06,639
game in Texas against Ohio State at the Cotton Bowl

762
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:10,440
as well. Now, obviously Ohio State fans are going to travel.

763
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,519
They travel everywhere them Georgia Bama like they have fans

764
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:18,159
pretty much in every single area of the entire country.

765
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:21,199
I know a few Ohio State fans and enemy territory

766
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,880
here in Michigan, right, like they do exist everywhere. So

767
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,320
my next question is is that Brian Hartline accepted the

768
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,159
job at South Florida and you being you know, within

769
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:37,440
this program very you know heavily he's projected to coach

770
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,239
throughout the playoffs. But go looking ahead, I guess you know,

771
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,079
for next year's options, do you have an idea of

772
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:46,159
a guy in mine that you would like to that

773
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,840
you think would fit well in that role, and then

774
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,519
what kind of impact does that have not only you know,

775
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,719
on the play calling side, even though he's only called

776
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,719
played called plays for one year, but recruiting wise as

777
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,119
well well.

778
00:42:58,159 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: The offensive coordinator for the national champion team, Chip Kelly

779
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,280
is available, and it's well documented.

780
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 4: His history with Ryan Day.

781
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,599
Speaker 3: Ryan Davis his quarterbacks coach and in Philly and with

782
00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:14,039
the forty nine ers, and he was Chip Kelly's quarterback

783
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:17,079
at the University of New Hampshire. Ryan tells this story

784
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:20,920
about Chip Kelly. I don't know if signing him or offer.

785
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:24,599
I think Chip Kelly offered Ryan Day while while in

786
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:28,639
his high school cafeteria. So those two, I mean, those

787
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:33,559
two are are are tight, very close, and and have

788
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:38,400
this this great mentor mentee relationship, and and Chip was able.

789
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: To help Ohigh State to a national title.

790
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,639
Speaker 3: I think there's a there's a there's always a possibility

791
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:45,880
that with him being available, that he could slide back

792
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:50,159
into that role next year. There are also guys, you know,

793
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:54,840
internally that that could certainly be be capable and and

794
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,360
and I think that this is this is just my opinion,

795
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,800
but there are guys that that Ryan Day can go

796
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,480
to you on his staff internally and then externally, what

797
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:06,239
Keenan Bailey has done this year with the offense.

798
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 4: On the offensive side.

799
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 3: With the tight ends has really been incredible. It's been

800
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,639
one of, if not the best tight end rooms in

801
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,800
program history. And then Tyler Bowen on the offensive line,

802
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:19,559
what a heck of a job he did on the.

803
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 4: Recruiting trail with his own line.

804
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:25,679
Speaker 3: And then you know, Saturday's performance might have been a

805
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:28,360
little bit of a blip allowing five sacks. They only

806
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,360
allowed success in the first twelve games. He's done a

807
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,480
great job with the offensive line this year, and he's

808
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,599
got play calling experience being the offensive coordinator at Virginia

809
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:41,000
Tech last year, and he's done work with the Penn State.

810
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,599
Speaker 4: He was with the Jaguars for a season as well

811
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,079
in the NFL. So there are guys that coach d

812
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,199
could look into on the internal side, and then in

813
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,119
terms of who might be able to step up and

814
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,880
move into heartline shoes as the wide receivers coach, you

815
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,679
could go externally or even internally. Devin Jordan is.

816
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:08,519
Speaker 3: The assistant wide receivers coach and with heart line up

817
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:10,679
in the booth this year, Devin Jordan's been down on

818
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:11,239
the sidelines.

819
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 4: He's been working with the receivers in real time.

820
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 3: In addition to you know, Brian Hartline being up in

821
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,199
the booth and being able to coach his guy is

822
00:45:18,199 --> 00:45:20,800
still but you know, Devin Jordan plays a large role

823
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,480
in developing these guys and recruiting these guys as well.

824
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,920
And he's a he's a Buckeye grad. He had had

825
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,440
a couple of injries as a player in the early

826
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,639
two thousands at Ohio State. But but on on his

827
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,639
senior day, Jim Tressel, then the head coach, told him,

828
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,760
you should you should consider coaching you. You've got along,

829
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,800
You've got a long future in this game. And and

830
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,559
so he saw it then. And obviously Jordan has that

831
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,880
now and he's got a lot of experience. So you

832
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,679
know this, this is uh, this is unfortunately a tough

833
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,519
situation timing wise that Ryan Day went out and said

834
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,320
last week there's nothing that that Brian Hartline can this

835
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,239
is nothing that he can control about it. This is

836
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,840
just the way the college schedule works right now. So Heartline,

837
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,559
you might have seen the video on to this morning

838
00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:12,199
Sunday hopping on a plane to go to Miami and

839
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,639
be introduced as the head coach at South Florida and

840
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:19,320
then he'll come back and he'll continue to have his

841
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,880
play calling duties here at Ohio State. Although Ryan Day

842
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,360
has said that you know, it is a group effort

843
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,440
into play calling though Brian is the play caller. That's

844
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,239
been a big topic of discussion. But you know he's

845
00:46:33,679 --> 00:46:36,960
heartline is going to try and do everything he can

846
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:39,440
to make this work during this postseason run.

847
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean both of Oregon's coordinators to Bois takes

848
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,840
the cal job and will Stein takes the Kentucky job,

849
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,880
Like that is two huge things. Obviously all miss that

850
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:57,360
situation is just one of a kind. I just felt

851
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,639
so bad for Marty Smith in that situation, just waiting

852
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:04,039
on the tarmac waiting for Lane Kiffin. I'm just like,

853
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:06,480
oh man, dude, like that that is one of the

854
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,000
tough jobs because you're sitting there trying to wait. I mean,

855
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,960
imagine you, you know, ten years from now, like there's

856
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,039
an Ohio State coach and you have to get an

857
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:19,039
exit interview. Like not not ever wishing that pressure on you,

858
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:22,360
but like I mean, I just put myself in that shoes,

859
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,840
in his shoes, you know, just being a member part

860
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,800
of the media, right and just being like, oh my gosh, dude, like,

861
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,719
how do you even execute that? So there's that I

862
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,280
can't think of any other coaching well a, oh yeah,

863
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,280
some are all too Bob Chesney as well.

864
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,079
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.

865
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 3: And then they're gonna they're gonna go to Florida and

866
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:45,519
UCLA respectively. Like you think about your you're trying to

867
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:48,920
figure out how you can get this program through the

868
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,519
postseason run and into uncharted territory and in their program's histories.

869
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:56,360
And then they also got to worry about making their

870
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,880
first impressions at.

871
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 4: Their news school. So it's it's a tough it's a

872
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:01,800
tough spot to be in.

873
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just absolutely insane that this is

874
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,440
just how it works. And I've heard a lot of

875
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,679
people like, well, just fix the calendar. I don't think

876
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,239
people realize that even though these players get paid in everything,

877
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,280
they're still students. Like you can't change the academic calendar.

878
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,760
You would have to change the football calendar around. But

879
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,599
you know, schools and school administrations are just an athletic administrations,

880
00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:27,920
especially or just taking advantage of oh I'm just gonna

881
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,280
fire my coach early, you know, get a head start

882
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,239
on the coaching carousel, you know, looking for candidates and stuff.

883
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:37,679
I mean, it's just absolutely insane in terms of like

884
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,679
how this all works. Like, Luckily, I'm a Michigan State guy, right,

885
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,320
and I think the luckily the guy that we hired

886
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,400
didn't coach in college football for two seasons, so you know,

887
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:51,239
we were able to get him in and he's gonna

888
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,199
be able to get full attention full time. But I

889
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,639
look at these first year coaches next year. Some are

890
00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:59,079
all you know, Glayne Kiffin, I mean all of these

891
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:03,039
guys like trying having your assistance and everyone you know

892
00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:06,559
coming over from to a different place and trying to

893
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,280
figure out this whole playoff thing. It's like, I I

894
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:11,559
worry about UCLA, you know, are they gonna have a

895
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:14,119
good start because of the timing of this, and you know,

896
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:16,559
recruits trying to sign an early signing day like they

897
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:19,360
might flip somewhere else and it's gonna be very transfer

898
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,199
portal heavy teams most likely. So I'm like, oh my goodness,

899
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,679
this is just this is just insanity. Right. But my

900
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,280
last question is is that this is non Ohio State related.

901
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,960
Do you think the committee got it right with putting

902
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,000
in Bama in Miami instead of Notre Dame or even

903
00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:39,519
by U M M.

904
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:45,199
Speaker 3: Well, I think that Notre Dame, Noah, you know, yeah,

905
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,480
Miami has the head to head and I think Miami

906
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,679
with this, I really do think that if they come

907
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,800
into this playoff with a chip on their shoulder, they

908
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,639
can certainly break some havoc. And you know they were

909
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,039
they were once the number two team in the country,

910
00:49:59,159 --> 00:49:59,760
so so.

911
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 4: They're is that. But I think that Notre Dame.

912
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,199
Speaker 3: Yet when you take the head to head out, you

913
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:12,840
lose two of your first three games by four total.

914
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,480
You lose your first two games two top ten opponents

915
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,719
by a combined four points. Then you win ten straight

916
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,639
and you have a win against USC and you've got

917
00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:28,199
You've got a couple of other, maybe not necessarily great,

918
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,960
great wins, but because of their schedule, albeit at no

919
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:38,280
conference games or conference championship games, they still have a

920
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,599
solid resume, not a.

921
00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 4: Great one, but still a.

922
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,519
Speaker 3: Worthy resume of of you know, two quality losses and

923
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:53,679
then some good wins. And I think that I think

924
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,159
that if there, if you could make an argument for

925
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,239
a team that deserves to be in that I think

926
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,400
get in. I think it's Notre Dame. They did not

927
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,800
plan a conference championship game. So that's I think where

928
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,880
Alabama has that edge because like.

929
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 4: You play and you play in.

930
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,119
Speaker 3: If not the best conference in college football, maybe that

931
00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:17,360
goes to the Big Ten, Maybe that goes to the SEC.

932
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 4: You can make an argument for either.

933
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 3: I think the Big Ten, having three playoff teams and

934
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:28,880
three of the top five seeds in the playoff, I

935
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,440
think I think the Big Ten at least has it

936
00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:34,039
right now, takes the cake for the best conference right now.

937
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:37,400
But you know, the SEC is incredibly, incredibly strong and deep,

938
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,760
and so I think that if Alabama has a little

939
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,920
bit of that edge, it's because they play the conference

940
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,000
championship game. I think the pushback there is too knows.

941
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:51,920
You know, if Miami doesn't get an over Notre Dame,

942
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:56,039
then maybe there are some programs like Miami that will

943
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:58,840
not want to schedule those types of games the first

944
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,079
couple weeks of the season, and then what you know

945
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:02,639
that that takes a little bit of the fun out

946
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:03,519
of a non conference.

947
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,639
Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna play You're gonna play a MAC team,

948
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:09,079
You're gonna play like a CUS the team, and then

949
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,000
you're gonna play an FCS school because it's like, well,

950
00:52:11,039 --> 00:52:13,639
what's the point of scheduling hard out of conference games

951
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:15,800
if head the head's not gonna mean anything, right, So

952
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:16,920
right right?

953
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,199
Speaker 3: And you have like that Miami Notre Dame game on

954
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,400
that Sunday night before Labor Day was was terrific, Like

955
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:26,440
we need that in college football to promote an opening

956
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,519
week like that. So I think that Notre Dame makes

957
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:34,039
the case, you know, I And then to see them

958
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:38,039
pull out of a ball game too, you know, it's

959
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:42,840
you feel for those seniors. You feel you feel for

960
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,760
you know, if they if they feel slided over that.

961
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,519
But I I think that that was I found that surprising.

962
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:54,159
And and to see that they bowed out of the

963
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:59,119
out of the ball game. But you know, you certainly

964
00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:03,880
understand their frustrations, and you certainly you know, even to

965
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,159
see Kline Sataki frustrated with with b Yu because by

966
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:13,079
us two losses this year or two the Big twelve

967
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:16,480
champion and the number four seen the playoffs, and that

968
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:20,000
second loss came in the conference championship game.

969
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: Now they they they.

970
00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: I think the plus possessions both times.

971
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,119
Speaker 3: So I think that's the that's the big the big

972
00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:31,119
thing like if it if it were a one score

973
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,000
loss in the Big Twelve title game, maybe it's a

974
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:36,960
little bit of a different story. But you certainly understand.

975
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,719
I think you have to understand a lot of the

976
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,000
arguments from all these teams, and it's and it's tough

977
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:44,760
to appease everybody and make everybody happy. So I think

978
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,119
that it's going to be a really fun field though,

979
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,639
you know, you Mick Jagger said he can't always get

980
00:53:50,639 --> 00:53:51,199
what you want.

981
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 4: It's you know, you feel for those teams right on

982
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,239
the Cusp and Notre Dame.

983
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: You know, hats off to them and what they what

984
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,280
they were able to do was similar to what they

985
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,000
did last year.

986
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 4: It's just the field was really.

987
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,519
Speaker 3: Tight and tight enough to the point where a week

988
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:10,519
one had to have game had that had probably that

989
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:14,079
edge over the fighting Irish.

990
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,639
Speaker 2: There's one point I'm going to present to you. So

991
00:54:18,159 --> 00:54:22,159
there's the common opponent thing, and it's with Miami, and

992
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,519
it's with Alabama, and it's Florida State. And I'm not

993
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:29,880
trying to discredit Alabama because I still think they had

994
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,639
a good season and I think that went over Georgia

995
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,960
during the regular season. In at Georgia's place really kind

996
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,960
of solidified them, but they did not look good in

997
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,679
that in that SEC title game. And I get it,

998
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:44,719
you don't want to punish teams for playing in a

999
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,320
conference championship game, but there's a common opponent of Miami

1000
00:54:48,519 --> 00:54:51,039
took care of Florida State. Florida State made that game

1001
00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:53,480
look close because they put up some points in garbage time,

1002
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,480
but it was a three possession game at one point

1003
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,079
in Alabama. I mean, Florida State handled them in Week one.

1004
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:02,639
So I'm not trying to say I think. You know,

1005
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,519
it's so tough for a committee member to be honest

1006
00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:07,559
and people are like, oh, I'm just gonna give I'm

1007
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:10,119
gonna go on social media and all these you know

1008
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,079
college football, you know media pages and talk about, oh,

1009
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:15,119
the committee sucks. They got it wrong because my team's

1010
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:18,079
not in. It's one of the toughest jobs in the world,

1011
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:21,360
and you can't make everybody happy. If I'm gonna be honest,

1012
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,840
I do respect the head to head. I know Miami

1013
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,719
lost to what SMU and what was the other team? Louisville. Yeah,

1014
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,480
and to be fair, Louisville probably should have been a

1015
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:35,000
ten wins this team this season. If you know, they

1016
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,519
didn't really show up the last the last four weeks.

1017
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,199
And then I mean on the SMU side, like SMU

1018
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:45,079
would have been an ACC championship had they not blown

1019
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:48,960
it to cal So. And obviously those results did happen.

1020
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:54,400
But you know, I like, I think it comes down

1021
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,480
to the head to head to be honest. I know

1022
00:55:56,519 --> 00:55:58,719
it was a week one game, but you know my schedule,

1023
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,199
a hard week one game against the good opponent if

1024
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,320
it's not gonna matter. And then also I'm like, if

1025
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,000
you're gonna put Alabama out, then they're especially Greg Sanky,

1026
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,920
he's gonna be like, yeah, we're just not gonna play

1027
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,440
conference championship games anywhere. We're going to crown the winner

1028
00:56:12,519 --> 00:56:15,639
and that'll be it. So it's tough.

1029
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: Booger mcfarmlin brought up brought up a good point regarding Alabama.

1030
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:23,239
It kind of related to what you've been saying to know,

1031
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,119
is that it's tough to gauge Alabama because the conference

1032
00:56:27,159 --> 00:56:30,519
championship argument. And then two, they've got arguably the best

1033
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,440
win in college football this year. They also have arguably

1034
00:56:34,519 --> 00:56:38,119
the worst loss in college football in that loss to

1035
00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:43,639
Florida State. And yes, the Sentinoles did get skyrocketed up

1036
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,840
the rankings as a result of that win, and they

1037
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,840
stayed there until they got beat by Virginia in Week five,

1038
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,920
but that did it.

1039
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:55,679
Speaker 4: That loss did not age well well.

1040
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,639
Speaker 3: So it's it's really it's really tough to look at

1041
00:56:58,679 --> 00:57:02,360
that that Alabama a season and then to view the

1042
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,519
rest of their schedule as well on top of that.

1043
00:57:04,679 --> 00:57:08,360
So I think there are pros and cons to to

1044
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:14,039
any of those those last two at large bid teams,

1045
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:17,280
and that's what that's what makes it makes it incredibly tough.

1046
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just like it's just not a

1047
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,760
perfect system, and you know, there's no way to make

1048
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,159
it perfect at all, no matter how you look at it.

1049
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:28,920
If you want to go off computer rankings, you know

1050
00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:31,840
what we did with the BCS, you know could do that.

1051
00:57:33,199 --> 00:57:39,280
And I'm just like, man, dude, let's be honest, I

1052
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,280
don't I don't want to be this. Oh well that

1053
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,039
doesn't sound like sound like this jerk. Whoever gets the

1054
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:49,400
ten seeds probably not gonna matter. I mean, it might,

1055
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,199
but realistically, unless it's like unless it's just just the

1056
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,960
super good team that's just had a bad who knows,

1057
00:57:57,039 --> 00:58:00,679
maybe Miami goes out and wins the whole entire thing.

1058
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,360
I don't think that's gonna happen based off of the

1059
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,239
results of this season, but what do I know. They

1060
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,800
could do it. So I'm just going to make the

1061
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,760
point that it like it does matter, yes, but it

1062
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,599
also doesn't. I mean financially gained wise, yes, it does

1063
00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:18,480
matter for you know, all these teams in the conferences.

1064
00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:22,480
So but AnyWho, all right, I won't I won't hold

1065
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,480
you hostage anymore. Thank you Tyler for joining the show,

1066
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:29,239
and I'm it's always a pleasure to have you on.

1067
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:32,599
Speaker 3: Likewise, no, thanks as always for having me. I really

1068
00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:37,519
appreciate the time. M h.

1069
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:41,639
Speaker 2: M hm.

1070
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 4: In the people