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Speaker 2: He and another group of senators were the first to
Speaker 2: approach Kimberly Cheedle, the former Secret Service head, and ask
Speaker 2: them or ask her about what happened during the field
Speaker 2: assassination attempt. Senator James Langford was there at the Republican
Speaker 2: National Convention when the Secret Service had showed up. He's
Speaker 2: here now because he still wants answers and he and
Speaker 2: his committee are going to try to get something. Welcome,
Speaker 2: Senator James Langford.
Speaker 4: I agree to you as well.
Speaker 2: My first question, Senator, is when you saw Cheadle in
Speaker 2: the halls of the Republican National Convention. Was your question
Speaker 2: the same as mine? Wait a minute, what are you
Speaker 2: doing here? Why aren't you at the scene investigating this thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was actually my very first question. I'd just
Speaker 3: been on a call with her earlier that day to
Speaker 3: be able to go through some of the tales, had
Speaker 3: not been able to get answers from her, and none
Speaker 3: of us knew that she was going to be at
Speaker 3: the RNC, And then we found out that she was
Speaker 3: up in one of the suites that had slipped up
Speaker 3: to be able to be there. So yeah, there's myself
Speaker 3: and three other senators. We went up to be able
Speaker 3: to confront her and to say we didn't get answers
Speaker 3: earlier today on the call, we'd like to get answers
Speaker 3: right now. And I also wanted to ask her about
Speaker 3: are you coming in front of our committee that we
Speaker 3: had already asked for her to be able to appear,
Speaker 3: and she wouldn't give an answer to that. We now
Speaker 3: know she's resigned, obviously, but I do have the next
Speaker 3: in line at Secret Service that's a fearing in front
Speaker 3: my committee tomorrow because there's still quite a few unanswered
Speaker 3: questions that we've got to resolve to make sure this
Speaker 3: doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: Again, no kidding, And everybody has questions. I mean, you
Speaker 2: talk about ground that is fertile for all kinds of
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories because there's there are no answers, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The number one thing that we oppress them on is
Speaker 3: they should be out every single day doing press conferences,
Speaker 3: say this is what we've learned in the last twenty
Speaker 3: four hours to dispel all of these rumors, like Democrats
Speaker 3: are running wild on this rumor that the teleprompter was
Speaker 3: shot and it was actually glass that hit the president's
Speaker 3: as if that makes a difference on it. They've still
Speaker 3: got a shooter trying to assassinate him. Whether it was
Speaker 3: a bullet or glass, the number one issue on that
Speaker 3: whole thing. To dispel it, they need to step up
Speaker 3: and say, the teleprompter's still there, it was never hit.
Speaker 4: By a bullet. So that's ridiculous that there's even this
Speaker 4: rumor out there that it was even glass at all.
Speaker 3: Then you've got everything else that goes along with it
Speaker 3: about the Secret Service.
Speaker 4: Quietly leave this.
Speaker 3: Open, and you know, all these things that are out
Speaker 3: there can be dispelled with facts. But the Secret Service
Speaker 3: and the FBI are failing to be able to get
Speaker 3: every day just to be able to answer the questions.
Speaker 3: So we're going to put them on record tomorrow and
Speaker 3: get out there and try to answer as many questions
Speaker 3: as we can't.
Speaker 2: Please don't tell me may Orcus is on the list
Speaker 2: to be interviewed.
Speaker 4: He is not.
Speaker 2: It's all he's going to say is, oh, everything's fine.
Speaker 4: Everything's good. Nothing to see here him, move along.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I've got multiple questions here, you know, starting with obviously
Speaker 3: the way they screened it, he the assassin attempted assassin
Speaker 3: who did commit a murder there as well. He was
Speaker 3: at the site multiple times. He had searched the day
Speaker 3: that he registered to be able to come to the event.
Speaker 3: He had also searched that day as well. How far
Speaker 3: is the shot that Lee Harvey Oswald took to be
Speaker 3: able to kill President Kennedy? And so he had been
Speaker 3: working on this since the sixth of July, But then
Speaker 3: he was at that site multiple times. He had flown
Speaker 3: a drone over that site earlier in the day and
Speaker 3: no one had picked up. Okay, this might be a
Speaker 3: problem on it. It had been identified as suspicious an
Speaker 3: hour before he took the shot. Local law enforcement was
Speaker 3: trying to be able to track him. They lost track
Speaker 3: of him. They had notified secrets OUs, Hey, we lost
Speaker 3: track of somebody we saw that suspicious. That should have
Speaker 3: been a moment that Secret Service should have been able
Speaker 3: to make the decision and say, let's pause until we
Speaker 3: find this individual that we've just lost that they all
Speaker 3: considered suspicious, that he can't just blend into the crowd,
Speaker 3: Let's not start the rally for another ten minutes. What
Speaker 3: would have been the harm in that one. And then
Speaker 3: you've got a situation where one police officer climbs on
Speaker 3: the shoulders of another police officer to look on the roof.
Speaker 3: After spectators had said, hey, there's somebody on that roof.
Speaker 3: They looked up there. When they got up there, this
Speaker 3: kid turns around with his rifle and points at a
Speaker 3: police officer who immediately comes off the roof. Then he
Speaker 3: calls it in. Now we've got twenty eight seconds from
Speaker 3: the time he calls in there's a guy with a
Speaker 3: gun on the roof and there still was no response.
Speaker 4: Twenty seconds doesn't sound.
Speaker 3: Like a lot of time, but in the NFL, that's
Speaker 3: about the length of time it takes to run a play,
Speaker 3: gather up, do a huddle, and run the next play.
Speaker 3: That's a long time when you've got someone on the
Speaker 3: radio saying gun. Why wasn't there to meet response at
Speaker 3: that point and there wasn't. So, yeah, there's still a
Speaker 3: lot of questions after your respond to.
Speaker 2: A lot of shots can be fired off in twenty
Speaker 2: eight seconds, as you know, Senator, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, Canny, that was twenty eight seconds before he took
Speaker 3: the first shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 3: From the time they identified there's a guy with a
Speaker 3: gun on that roof till they even took the first
Speaker 3: shot twenty eight seconds.
Speaker 2: Senator James Langford's with us. His committee is going to
Speaker 2: be asking some questions tomorrow about the assassination, and he's
Speaker 2: his committee is looking into it. Is this is what
Speaker 2: I've been saying all along, Senator. Usually when you think
Speaker 2: that something is so screwed up it is a conspiracy.
Speaker 2: Usually it's due to just massive incompetence. Is that the
Speaker 2: case here, because it looks to me like the director
Speaker 2: of the Secret Service wasn't even up for the job.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was not one mistake. This was a dozen
Speaker 4: mistakes that were made that day.
Speaker 3: As it typically is when you get into something like that,
Speaker 3: it's not just one thing that slipped through. You had
Speaker 3: to have a lot of things go wrong. And that
Speaker 3: is where the conspiracy theory all come and say they
Speaker 3: couldn't have been that many.
Speaker 4: Things wrong, But yeah, there were.
Speaker 3: The more that we dig into this, the more we realized, no,
Speaker 3: they were just getting relaxed.
Speaker 4: They were doing all these outdoor rallies that they just were.
Speaker 3: Getting to relax on it and not doing the basic
Speaker 3: job that they were really first responsible to be able
Speaker 3: to do and they were trusting local law enforcement, which
Speaker 3: is good. I mean, local law enforcement wasn't the problem here,
Speaker 3: but it's that they weren't didn't have clear lines of communication,
Speaker 3: they weren't tracking, they weren't even meeting.
Speaker 4: We understand Secret Service didn't even meet.
Speaker 3: With them earlier in the day. Because this has just
Speaker 3: become a routine. Think about how many rallies Trump is done,
Speaker 3: that they've been at all these different rallies and set
Speaker 3: up and everything's just gone like clockwork. But they let
Speaker 3: their guard down. They didn't do the due diligence, and we.
Speaker 2: Had this Senator James Langford's with us. Any chance anybody
Speaker 2: else getting fired.
Speaker 4: Oh no, there's a very good chance of that.
Speaker 3: Obviously, we've got the folks that were actually on the
Speaker 3: ground that day that were making decisions or in this case,
Speaker 3: not making decisions. We still don't know why once we
Speaker 3: lost a suspicious person in the crowd and they couldn't
Speaker 3: have they couldn't figure out where he went any more,
Speaker 3: they knew he had disappeared and was trying to evade police,
Speaker 3: why there wasn't a pause done. So we're still trying
Speaker 3: to find out who was that? How did they make
Speaker 3: that decision? Why didn't they make the decision to be
Speaker 3: able to pause the rally until they found him. If
Speaker 3: that would have been done, obviously those shots would have
Speaker 3: never been fired.
Speaker 2: Senator James Langford's with us? And what is binding about
Speaker 2: this investigation of yours? Is there a chance you can
Speaker 2: get somebody in a trial or in a criminal court?
Speaker 3: Unlikely that we end up been in a criminal court,
Speaker 3: though we don't know yet all the details on it,
Speaker 3: but that's unlikely. This seems to be just a whole
Speaker 3: series of really terrible decisions and mistakes that were made
Speaker 3: through the process on it. We do have new leadership
Speaker 3: in Secret Service. I've already met privately with that new
Speaker 3: leadership of Secret Service, a very different attitude than Director
Speaker 3: Cheeta had. Director Cheetah was like, yeah, we got everything covered.
Speaker 3: It was kind of a may orchest like attitude. The
Speaker 3: new leadership is stepping in and saying we made major mistakes.
Speaker 3: I'm already making serious changes to how we do things.
Speaker 2: Senator James Langford, we will be watching the questioning tomorrow,
Speaker 2: which I'm sure will be televised, and the questions that
Speaker 2: you will be asking. So Thank you for joining us
Speaker 2: and giving us a preview today.
Speaker 3: You bet glad to be able to walk through it.
Speaker 3: Continue to pray for the nation. There's a lot going on.
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