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<v Speaker 1>This is later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>More What You Hear Weekday Afternoon's on the Drive.

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<v Speaker 2>He and another group of senators were the first to

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<v Speaker 2>approach Kimberly Cheedle, the former Secret Service head, and ask

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<v Speaker 2>them or ask her about what happened during the field

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<v Speaker 2>assassination attempt. Senator James Langford was there at the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>National Convention when the Secret Service had showed up. He's

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<v Speaker 2>here now because he still wants answers and he and

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<v Speaker 2>his committee are going to try to get something. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>Senator James Langford.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree to you as well.

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<v Speaker 2>My first question, Senator, is when you saw Cheadle in

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<v Speaker 2>the halls of the Republican National Convention. Was your question

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<v Speaker 2>the same as mine? Wait a minute, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing here? Why aren't you at the scene investigating this thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was actually my very first question. I'd just

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<v Speaker 3>been on a call with her earlier that day to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to go through some of the tales, had

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<v Speaker 3>not been able to get answers from her, and none

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<v Speaker 3>of us knew that she was going to be at

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<v Speaker 3>the RNC, And then we found out that she was

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<v Speaker 3>up in one of the suites that had slipped up

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to be there. So yeah, there's myself

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<v Speaker 3>and three other senators. We went up to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to confront her and to say we didn't get answers

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<v Speaker 3>earlier today on the call, we'd like to get answers

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<v Speaker 3>right now. And I also wanted to ask her about

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<v Speaker 3>are you coming in front of our committee that we

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<v Speaker 3>had already asked for her to be able to appear,

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<v Speaker 3>and she wouldn't give an answer to that. We now

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<v Speaker 3>know she's resigned, obviously, but I do have the next

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<v Speaker 3>in line at Secret Service that's a fearing in front

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<v Speaker 3>my committee tomorrow because there's still quite a few unanswered

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<v Speaker 3>questions that we've got to resolve to make sure this

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, no kidding, And everybody has questions. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about ground that is fertile for all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theories because there's there are no answers, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The number one thing that we oppress them on is

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<v Speaker 3>they should be out every single day doing press conferences,

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<v Speaker 3>say this is what we've learned in the last twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four hours to dispel all of these rumors, like Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>are running wild on this rumor that the teleprompter was

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<v Speaker 3>shot and it was actually glass that hit the president's

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<v Speaker 3>as if that makes a difference on it. They've still

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<v Speaker 3>got a shooter trying to assassinate him. Whether it was

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<v Speaker 3>a bullet or glass, the number one issue on that

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing. To dispel it, they need to step up

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<v Speaker 3>and say, the teleprompter's still there, it was never hit.

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<v Speaker 4>By a bullet. So that's ridiculous that there's even this

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<v Speaker 4>rumor out there that it was even glass at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you've got everything else that goes along with it

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<v Speaker 3>about the Secret Service.

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<v Speaker 4>Quietly leave this.

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<v Speaker 3>Open, and you know, all these things that are out

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<v Speaker 3>there can be dispelled with facts. But the Secret Service

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<v Speaker 3>and the FBI are failing to be able to get

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<v Speaker 3>every day just to be able to answer the questions.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to put them on record tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 3>get out there and try to answer as many questions

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<v Speaker 3>as we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Please don't tell me may Orcus is on the list

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<v Speaker 2>to be interviewed.

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<v Speaker 4>He is not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all he's going to say is, oh, everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything's good. Nothing to see here him, move along.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got multiple questions here, you know, starting with obviously

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<v Speaker 3>the way they screened it, he the assassin attempted assassin

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<v Speaker 3>who did commit a murder there as well. He was

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<v Speaker 3>at the site multiple times. He had searched the day

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<v Speaker 3>that he registered to be able to come to the event.

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<v Speaker 3>He had also searched that day as well. How far

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<v Speaker 3>is the shot that Lee Harvey Oswald took to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to kill President Kennedy? And so he had been

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<v Speaker 3>working on this since the sixth of July, But then

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<v Speaker 3>he was at that site multiple times. He had flown

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<v Speaker 3>a drone over that site earlier in the day and

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<v Speaker 3>no one had picked up. Okay, this might be a

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<v Speaker 3>problem on it. It had been identified as suspicious an

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<v Speaker 3>hour before he took the shot. Local law enforcement was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to be able to track him. They lost track

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<v Speaker 3>of him. They had notified secrets OUs, Hey, we lost

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<v Speaker 3>track of somebody we saw that suspicious. That should have

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<v Speaker 3>been a moment that Secret Service should have been able

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<v Speaker 3>to make the decision and say, let's pause until we

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<v Speaker 3>find this individual that we've just lost that they all

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<v Speaker 3>considered suspicious, that he can't just blend into the crowd,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's not start the rally for another ten minutes. What

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<v Speaker 3>would have been the harm in that one. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you've got a situation where one police officer climbs on

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<v Speaker 3>the shoulders of another police officer to look on the roof.

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<v Speaker 3>After spectators had said, hey, there's somebody on that roof.

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<v Speaker 3>They looked up there. When they got up there, this

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<v Speaker 3>kid turns around with his rifle and points at a

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<v Speaker 3>police officer who immediately comes off the roof. Then he

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<v Speaker 3>calls it in. Now we've got twenty eight seconds from

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<v Speaker 3>the time he calls in there's a guy with a

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<v Speaker 3>gun on the roof and there still was no response.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty seconds doesn't sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a lot of time, but in the NFL, that's

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<v Speaker 3>about the length of time it takes to run a play,

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<v Speaker 3>gather up, do a huddle, and run the next play.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a long time when you've got someone on the

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<v Speaker 3>radio saying gun. Why wasn't there to meet response at

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<v Speaker 3>that point and there wasn't. So, yeah, there's still a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of questions after your respond to.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of shots can be fired off in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight seconds, as you know, Senator, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, Canny, that was twenty eight seconds before he took

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<v Speaker 3>the first shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 3>From the time they identified there's a guy with a

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<v Speaker 3>gun on that roof till they even took the first

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<v Speaker 3>shot twenty eight seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator James Langford's with us. His committee is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be asking some questions tomorrow about the assassination, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>his committee is looking into it. Is this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I've been saying all along, Senator. Usually when you think

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<v Speaker 2>that something is so screwed up it is a conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually it's due to just massive incompetence. Is that the

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<v Speaker 2>case here, because it looks to me like the director

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<v Speaker 2>of the Secret Service wasn't even up for the job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this was not one mistake. This was a dozen

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<v Speaker 4>mistakes that were made that day.

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<v Speaker 3>As it typically is when you get into something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just one thing that slipped through. You had

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<v Speaker 3>to have a lot of things go wrong. And that

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<v Speaker 3>is where the conspiracy theory all come and say they

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't have been that many.

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<v Speaker 4>Things wrong, But yeah, there were.

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<v Speaker 3>The more that we dig into this, the more we realized, no,

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<v Speaker 3>they were just getting relaxed.

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<v Speaker 4>They were doing all these outdoor rallies that they just were.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting to relax on it and not doing the basic

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<v Speaker 3>job that they were really first responsible to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to do and they were trusting local law enforcement, which

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<v Speaker 3>is good. I mean, local law enforcement wasn't the problem here,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's that they weren't didn't have clear lines of communication,

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't tracking, they weren't even meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>We understand Secret Service didn't even meet.

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<v Speaker 3>With them earlier in the day. Because this has just

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<v Speaker 3>become a routine. Think about how many rallies Trump is done,

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<v Speaker 3>that they've been at all these different rallies and set

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<v Speaker 3>up and everything's just gone like clockwork. But they let

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<v Speaker 3>their guard down. They didn't do the due diligence, and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Had this Senator James Langford's with us. Any chance anybody

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<v Speaker 2>else getting fired.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, there's a very good chance of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, we've got the folks that were actually on the

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<v Speaker 3>ground that day that were making decisions or in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>not making decisions. We still don't know why once we

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<v Speaker 3>lost a suspicious person in the crowd and they couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have they couldn't figure out where he went any more,

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<v Speaker 3>they knew he had disappeared and was trying to evade police,

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<v Speaker 3>why there wasn't a pause done. So we're still trying

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<v Speaker 3>to find out who was that? How did they make

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<v Speaker 3>that decision? Why didn't they make the decision to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to pause the rally until they found him. If

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<v Speaker 3>that would have been done, obviously those shots would have

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<v Speaker 3>never been fired.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator James Langford's with us? And what is binding about

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<v Speaker 2>this investigation of yours? Is there a chance you can

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<v Speaker 2>get somebody in a trial or in a criminal court?

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<v Speaker 3>Unlikely that we end up been in a criminal court,

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<v Speaker 3>though we don't know yet all the details on it,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's unlikely. This seems to be just a whole

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<v Speaker 3>series of really terrible decisions and mistakes that were made

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<v Speaker 3>through the process on it. We do have new leadership

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<v Speaker 3>in Secret Service. I've already met privately with that new

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<v Speaker 3>leadership of Secret Service, a very different attitude than Director

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<v Speaker 3>Cheeta had. Director Cheetah was like, yeah, we got everything covered.

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<v Speaker 3>It was kind of a may orchest like attitude. The

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<v Speaker 3>new leadership is stepping in and saying we made major mistakes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm already making serious changes to how we do things.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator James Langford, we will be watching the questioning tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm sure will be televised, and the questions that

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<v Speaker 2>you will be asking. So Thank you for joining us

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<v Speaker 2>and giving us a preview today.

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<v Speaker 3>You bet glad to be able to walk through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Continue to pray for the nation. There's a lot going on.

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