Speaker 1: You're watching brand new faces. I'm your host, Matt, and
I'm joined tonight by a very special guest. Now I
had to ask her how you say her name exactly?
So that tells you how much research I do on
all of my guests that come on Truth Be Told.
First thing I do is I see a person and
I go, well, she is gorgeous. Check for this person.
I go, is everything set up on all their socials
and all their other sites? Are they professional? Check for
this person as well. So if you're broken, you don't
have any money right now, bare minimum you could do
is follow these folks on social media. Okay, we need
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Payday rolls around. You have a check in your account,
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I want to spend it. Now, I want to treat myself.
You can head on over to either OnlyFans or Chatterbait.
If she's on at Annie Summers. An I Summers links
to everything in the episode description as always remember follow
these folks, Support these folks, ladies and gentlemen. My guest
for the evening, Annie Summers. Honnie, thank you so much
for coming on with me.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I was really excited when
you reached out so looking forward to our yap.
Speaker 1: I was really excited when you said yes. I was like,
oh my god, is this a fucking bot account? Like
you were one of the most beautiful people I've ever
had on this show. And that's no disrespect to anyone
else I've had on this show. It's just it shocks me.
Sometimes it's like you get a little bit of reach
and if you're friendly enough to people, sometimes hot girls
will say yes. It's a strange, strange experience I've never
had in my life. Annie. Let me start with the
third rudest question you can ask a woman. Okay, am
I allowed to ask you? How old you are?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You can ask me. I am about to be
twenty five, So I'm twenty four right now?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, uh okay. I grew up listening to rap.
I have no idea what a woman's measurements are okay.
When they would go like thirty five, twenty six, twenty four,
I would go, oh, that girl sounds thick or something.
I don't know. I like it. I came up with
my own metrics for measurement on this show. Also, I
apologize my hands come at the scream a lot. I'm
not grabbing at you.
Speaker 2: Good. Uh.
Speaker 1: First metric I always use is height. Could I s
get how tall you are?
Speaker 2: I am five ten?
Speaker 1: Whoa that you have? Those are model looks then, not
just like hot girl who's five to three secretly behind
the scenes.
Speaker 2: Right, I feel like the tattoos kind of x naate
me from the model world. But I did play volleyball
and I ran track through partially through college, So I
feel like that's where I use my height. Okay, now
I'm using here.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's fair. Can I ask you what
your cup size is? That's my second metric.
Speaker 2: I feel like Victoria's secret kind of lies. But I
am a thirty two d Okay?
Speaker 1: All right? Wonderful? And again, if you folks are just
listening to this, don't go check out the video and
make sure you follow these people because they post shit
all the time for free. And then you pay a
little bit and you get some Anyway, last metric here
for my foot guys, not necessarily what I'm into, but
it's non destructive, so I don't come down on people
for having it. What is your shoe size?
Speaker 2: I am a true nine and a half so big girl.
Speaker 1: Ye you are, but you we'll get into it. I
definitely want to talk about you, your look, your style,
what you're trying to represent. Let me do the boring
question that always tends to lead to interesting stuff. How
did you initially decide to get into the adult entertainment
industry in whatever field that was, whether it was camming, dancing,
You're shooting gang bangs on your eighteenth birthday? Like, what
is the day when you decided fuck this, I can't
do vanilla regular life anymore. I have to take a
step in a different direction. Now is your turn to talk?
Speaker 2: Well, I am actually still in school. So I started,
I believe at the very end of twenty twenty or
the beginning of twenty twenty one, when the pandemic was
kind of at its peak. And I am sure you've
seen I go to a lot of festivals where nudity
is just all over and I became very desensitized to it,
and I decided why not capitalize on this? So somewhere,
I would say beginning of twenty twenty one, I started
my only fans. And it hasn't been you know, a
straight line of me being consistent since twenty twenty one.
But I started with my only fans, you know, just
a couple of pictures here and there, and then it
kind of expanded to me camming now and then I
also dance in that club. So I actually started with
OnlyFans and then kind of branched out.
Speaker 1: Okay, And what was was it just like I got
bills to pay, I want to do something from home.
I don't want to go like, you know, throw an
Antie Anne's hat on and stand in the mall like
it was it a good blend of being able to
do that wow in school that created the opportunity for you?
Like how did you just decide fuck this? Have you
always been this type of like a sexualized person into
stuff or like what was the line? Because I look
a look at me, I'm a goddamn mess. For me
to be able to put myself nude online, it would
be like, I don't know, mafia about to cut my
legs off, like they'd have to be like, either you
post your fucking stomach online or we cut it off.
When did you? Did you just know like you're a
hot girl? Like of course if I throw something online,
like something will come of it.
Speaker 2: Well, it initially started with paying for school, okay, because
tuition is going to pay itself. I'm actually doing like
a marathon on chatterbray right now where I'm streaming as
much as physically possible to pay for school. So I
feel like that was kind of the motivation behind it.
And I was actually raised Mormon, Okay, So there came
a point where I was like, none of this makes
sense and I'm completely comfortable in my body and I
might as well just use it. So I finally got
to a point where I stopped caring about what everyone
else thought and I just started doing it for me.
I don't know, it wasn't really like an awakening, sure,
it was just me kind of deciding I'm fine with
this and I'm gonna give it a show.
Speaker 1: I've interviewed so many mainstream girls that I hear it
started on the Mormon compound I grew up or we
were a very religious family, or I was closeted from
you folks. I think there's a formula now if you
want your daughter to become a really hot porn star,
really throw that big cloak of religion around her early
in life.
Speaker 2: I love do it.
Speaker 1: Did it make you okay? Again, only go as far
as you're willing to go in as far as you're
comfortable going. But you mentioned it, you said you grew
up in. Was it a Mormon household? Was it just folks,
we Mormon Mormon community. Did that make this type of
thing so much more enticing? Or was it always like
the taboo kind of industry of the world that you
hated and thought was gross And then finally when you
like stuck your toe in, you were like, Oh, actually
this isn't so bad, this isn't terrible. There's control it.
Did you have that type of thing where they were
coming down on you, holding you down early on?
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, okay, I've always said that Mormon
girls are going to be the craziest because everything is
so suppressed. But I was lucky enough to like slip
away a little early, and I was doing all these
things behind closed doors anyways, And so there wasn't any
point where I was like, Wow, I'm going to rebel
against my religion that I grew up And it was
just kind of me finding my own footing and realizing
that my ideals didn't align with that.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? You mentioned you look your style is very
rave oriented. I'm an old man. I have no context
of that. I'm an old man that grew up in
New Jersey. Like we don't have fun shit. Necessarily, talk
me through that. What brought you into that lifestyle, what
do you love about that lifestyle? And then let's see
how we can relate that to some of the other
things we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Let's see, I went to my first rave when I
was sixteen, OK, And I pretty much never looked back. Obviously,
the people are very free spirited and it was something
I wanted to be a part of. Everyone is just
so accepting of one another, and you can be anyone
you want to be without judgment. On top of that,
I don't know if you're familiar with plur at all,
but peace, love you, and you respect that kind of
just like drew me in because no matter what I
was doing, I would have the respect of all of
the people around me, and everyone is so friendly. I
love the music. I started going because of the music.
But that's kind of what Jeremy and was, just like
the community around Raving.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, how is so you laid out principles?
That makes total sense. I went to like twelve years
of Catholic school. Catholics love to lay out principles too.
And I'm not anti religious or pro or whatever, but
Catholics love to lay out rules too, and then they
have their own little exceptions where problems happen. It's beautiful
the idea you just laid out of the rave community.
To me, how true is it? Are there ways people
deal with problem people in that community? Are there less
instances of problem people in that community than there are
in other ones? Like I literally have no concept of it.
Speaker 2: I would like to say that there are like minimal problems,
but there still are. And even now, like a couple
of years ago, I got announced that ETIM festivals were
a trend, and so the group of people is becoming
more saturated with people who don' I don't carry the
ideals of the ADM community, but for the most part,
I would say newcomers adopt the ideals that were already
in place, So in my experience, I haven't seen too
many awful things. Obviously, you're going to have your one
offs and random instances where someone isn't respecting the culture.
But for the most part, I think everyone that goes
kind of just knows to be a good person.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, very cool again, whatever's private, keep personal.
I won't ask where, but you said you're in school.
Uh can I ask what you're in school for? And
do you have any of the or did have you
learned anything? Have you taken any skills that can translate
into the other stuff you're currently working on? Like if
you were in school for marketing right now, go oh
right up your alley, there you go. You know you
can move it over here. What are you in school for?
Speaker 2: I wish I was in school for marketing. I am
double and nursing and integrative health. So I want to
do cosmetic injections. So the only thing that's going to
help me here is thinking myself feel good. I want
to help others feel good in their own skin, so
I want to do like botox and filler and all
that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you okay? You again? For anyone just listening.
You are beautiful, You are absolutely perfect. Do you see
yourself going that road of getting a lot of work
done later on in life? Or are you? Do you
think it would be so funny? It wouldn't if all
these years like you did that and you look beautiful
and you're giving injections to people and this and that,
and you hit a certain point and someone goes, Honi,
would you like a little botox? And you oh, fuck no,
I don't mess with that stuff, like I naturally age
and get beautiful. Do you see yourself going down that road?
Do you have? I guess you would have no reservations
or problems with it, right.
Speaker 2: No, I have no problem with it. And I'm pretty
open about what I have gotten done. Like I get
botox because I'm very expressive, so I get it in
like my forehead, between my brows because I make a
lot of faces. But like natural lips, natural tits, natural ass.
Speaker 1: You know, there you go.
Speaker 2: Actually, maybe I'll get more done, but I try to
keep it pretty minimal.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I think that's fair. Let's talk about
some of your actual content or the stuff you're trying
to produce. Now, you said you're doing a streaming kind
of a marathon thing right now. Right by the way, folks,
if you are on chatter bait right now where you
listen to this, you can at least follow her at
Annie Summers an i Summers links in the episode description
what are you doing? See when I went to pay
off my student loans? I worked time and a half overtime.
I worked seventy five hours a week for two years
and I paid off my student loans. Can I ask you,
do you have a number you think it's gonna sit
at when you're done that you're trying to either work
towards or save up.
Speaker 2: Well, I just finished my first degree, so I graduated
with my bachelor's so I'm trying to pay that down
and then I will additionally have to pay for nursing school.
And depending on where I go, that number fluctuates, but
I'm trying. It is a six digit number that we're
going to have at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: So damn. I know a girl who left school and
got the same job as me, and I had like
thirty grand with a student loan debt, and she left
with a quarter million. Do you think you'll be up
around there? Towards the end of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eventually I would be there, but I don't know how.
You know, with like online work, it really fluctuates. The
holidays is hit, everyone will spend time with their families,
but then the holidays pass and everyone came back, So
it fluctuates. But we'll get there eventually.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 2: I don't see myself stopping until I'm solidified in my career.
Speaker 1: Talk me through your room. So if I show up
into your chat room, is it just you looking hot?
Is it you playing games? Is it you conversing with people?
What am I getting? When I come in and check
out your room, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like I'm definitely Brady online. So usually it's me
Madre listening to idiom, which I usually like yap in.
I have a tip menu so you can tip for X,
y Z, you know, top off, bottom off for X
amount of time, vibrator, client, et cetera. And just like
messaging with me, I don't go just like straight to
nudity unless I really feel like it, because you know,
every single thing can be tipped for, so I just
take advantage of that.
Speaker 1: Sure, I think that makes total I think so many times,
and you know, I don't want it to happen. I'm
a beneficiary when it does happen. But so many times
I feel like girls get into the cam game or
the other stuff Twitter or whatever and just immediately start
kind of throwing it out there. And there's two ideas
of thought behind that. You know, you bait the waters
a little bit, just because someone seeing your tits once
doesn't mean they're not gonna want to pay to see
it again and again and again. But you also have
that group of people where when you sign up for
a chat site, you get that new tag for a
little while, and you get ten thousand people in your
room and like two people are tipping, and you go, well,
I'd rather have a room of two people than I
would ten thousand if only two of them are gonna
tip personal Yeah, yeah, right. Do you have a good
community that you're building through chat currently? Like are you going?
Do you discuss your daily plans with them? Not not
details or anything. You're like, I'll be here at six
am and then by eighty yeah yeah yeah, and algo
tag them for you and do you like I never know,
because look, if I go into a chat room, I'm
going to a chat room for a reason, and so
many people don't, is what I've learned. I've learned so
many conversations through so many conversations with performers like you.
People come in those rooms for companionship, to like talk,
to actually be like, you know, Annie, I can't believe
this happened at work today, And in my head I'd
be going like, please take your fucking top off. That's
all I'm asking. But they, you know, want a little
more than that. Are you comfortable giving that kind of
interaction with people or do you do it as more
of a broadcast like an out?
Speaker 2: Uh? No. I feel like I'm really interactive with the
people that are in there, and the same people I
have noticed come back and my like day ones, the
ones that show up all the time, I'm like invested
in their lives and happy to yap with them. I
always tell my chatterbait room, like you guys come to
yap and you can see me in again when it's
baked for Yeah. So, and I know so many people
other like do it differently, but I feel like a
lot of people do come to listen to me talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think that's crazy. Again, Yeah, so many
people want like that genuine experience with another person. Yeah,
we mentioned the rave stuff before, can I all right,
let's get into some of this stuff. What is the
sex culture like with rave stuff? Is it do you
approach people? I know that really sounds like an old man, like,
how do you kiss girls at the fucking concert? That's
Is there a way to engage? Because you hear stories
afterwards on like you know, the ten thousand condoms that
ended up somewhere else and blah blah blah. You know,
what is the sex culture like around the rave type thing?
Speaker 2: I think it's different between each festival, Like, for one,
I know at Burning Man they had like an orgy
ten That's not something that's going to happen at every
single festival. And I have seen, you know, people get
in head in the middle of the pit at the
rail and you know, I've seen my fair share of stuff.
But I don't think that that's like the norm. I
don't think that that's the expectation. And I think that
if that happens under the right circumstances where like, you know,
they aren't a bunch of people around who aren't giving consent,
you know, weirded out by it, so be it, sure,
but I don't think that that is as prevalent as
people think.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, just like.
Speaker 2: Out in the open, just like every for everyone to
see see.
Speaker 1: Just judging by my question there, I thought it was
definitely more prevalent than you're kind of Is there a
can you give me this? What are the three like
most sex filled even if it's only a little bit
like an org ten or whatever, What are the three
most sex filled festivals? Would you say?
Speaker 2: I mean, definitely I have an intended Bernie Man, But
from what I've heard Bernie Man, okay, I don't know
any like outdoor camping event. I feel like there's a
lot of miscuous behavior because everyone is just like camping
outhoors together. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: By the way you just laid it, nothing could make
my dick softer than a girl, even as hot as
you coming up and being like I haven't showered in
three days, it'd be like, oh, great, okay, we shower. Well,
the camping event made it sound like, no, there's not
so much showering type of thing. I don't know, Maybe
I'm picturing a different camping event. You guys keep it clean,
like no one's all scurfy and shit when you're walking around.
Speaker 2: I shower every day, they bring in showers.
Speaker 1: You you do, you do, you can be trusted. Then
I bet there's a lot of other people where it's like, Yo,
that dude fucking stinks. I don't want to stand around him,
And there are people like that, sure, sure, uh So
have you always been this sexual? I know we kind
of touched on it before, but not really in depth,
like does this fit you? If you went back and
told your fifteen year old self, like you might be
doing this someday, your fifteen year old self might think, yeah, okay,
I can kind of see that. Or is this a
total one to eighty from your normal personality? The sexuality?
Speaker 2: At least it's pretty on brand. I would say, like
even in high school, like I was just a very
flirty girl, and like growing up, I kind of saw
this happening. I recently like opened a letter from my
eighth grade self to open like my senior year, and
in that letter, I kind of like there's a lot
of foreshadowing where I'm like, you're gonna be a party girl,
You're gonna do some crazy things in your life. So
I feel like I always knew I was going to
be like this, though I didn't know how or to
what extent. I kind of knew I was gonna be.
Speaker 1: Here, But you know what, do you Okay, let me
ask you. Do you get out of control at the things? Ever?
Because the way it sounds to me and Okay, I'm
just gonna be honest with you. When I first started
looking at your pictures that pulled you up. This is rude.
I should not have made judgments like this. I was like,
this is gonna be one of the hottest girls I
talked to on the show. But I wonder if she
knows how to like power through conversation. I wonder if
she's just kind of like one of those music checks
like ah, you know whatever, I just like to beat.
You are like very professional, you are very like Sirio
is not in a shitty way like you seem you
could take this seriously? How does that clash or am
I do I just have the impression of the whole
rave idea wrong. I have the impressions more that it's
like hot chicks kind of like, oh, you know, tripping
on something.
Speaker 2: There are definitely girls like that. I feel like there's
also like a lot of people in the rave community
that work in like healthcare or as lawyers, and this
is just what they do with their free time and
their adult money. So I don't think there's any class
because I feel like there's room for everyone in the
rave community. You don't have to like be a pinfo
And I feel like the same is like the same
applies to sex work online. Sure, everyone kind of just
assumes that you're just like I can't do anything else.
But no, I was like that gifted kid, you know,
like top of your class, like athletic. Everyone wanted me
to be a doctor, and I was like, well, I
want to do other things, like I want to be
a little sexy sometimes and go party on weekends.
Speaker 1: So I get it, I get it. That makes total
sense to me. Yeah, again, apologies on the judgment. I
don't know the community, and oh I know, I know
I'm saying to the audience too, like I have no
concept of what this community. So yeah, I think that
was kind of the impression I got. But I've talked
to so many girls. You even said it early on
that I thought was so smart when I said, are
you going to school for mark? Oh God, I wish
right I talked to so many performers who You're right.
The outside perception of the rave world is one thing.
The outside perception of the porn world is also another thing.
Where it's Annie shows up on set, she gets fucked
by a guy, she gets paid forty thousand dollars, she
goes home and doesn't have to tweet anything or anything else.
Did you? And it's just totally the opposite of that.
It's like this much of the sex stuff and then
the rest of its social media marketing. This that did
you realize coming into this that so much of it
was the marketing aspect? Or did you think, like I
can get by on looks and personality? Did you? Were
you aware of how much was going to go into
that as well.
Speaker 2: I was aware, but I didn't know to what extent. So,
like my first like social media blow up was on
TikTok actually, which was for all of my rave content,
and I feel like I kind of used that to
segue into what I'm doing now. But even now, I
like only shoot solos, so I have to market myself
and everything I do so much more and come up
with new ideas all the time, rather than like relying
on some collab with someone and their audience to carry
me through. So I knew it was going to be
a battle to market just myself. But you have to
like really work to retain followers and like game loyalty
and have those people coming back and back, otherwise they're
not going to be successful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one hundred percent right. You have to like
offer people without overcrowding them. You have to find that
nice blend, that mix of I'm presenting myself, but I'm
not giving you everything, so you'll skip past me. You
have to engage, but you can't engage too closely. Then
you have creeps who are checking your GEO tags and
everything else. And yeah, it's a balancing act that people
in the outside world just don't really get. Like I've
asked performers before, whould you rather market a ten men?
This is no offense numbers wise, a ten who has
no social media skills or a six who like can
figure out the algorithm ten times out of ten. It's like, oh,
that girl the six, like she knows how to work this.
The job itself is almost more marketing than it is sex.
It feels like at times, right, yeah, yeah, you're selling
a product the product is yourself, your looks, your videos,
whatever you want to consider it. But you are selling
a product every time, and you know, especially when there's
so many different options, So how do you set yourself apart? Then?
Is it just the and I don't say it just
as if that's a downgrade. Is it the rave thing?
Are you going to be like five years from now
in the industry, the rave girl? This is Annie Summer,
She's the rave girl.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not the first one to do it. Try No,
tons of rave girls that have like branded themselves on
OnlyFans or like in their sex work as the rape girl.
But I do rely heavily on that because of how
many events I tend. So that's what I'm doing. And
you know, I am also just like branding myself as
me and creating content I want and being silly doing whatever. Sure,
so I wouldn't say I'm the rain world, but I
do say it like I will say, a lot of
my content is based on going to festivals and because
that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: So sure, is there anyone in the industry that and
maybe not? I can't tell you how many times I
ask this question and they go, no, none, whatsoever. Is
there anyone you kind of like look up to and
not that you're biting their style or any of that shit,
but you're like, that is really cool, and that's what
I'd like to work towards a version of that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've heard this so many times because she
is wo she is, but I look up to Ari
because of like how large of a female audience she
has grown. I think that's something that's really hard to
do when you're doing this kind of work, is gain
acceptance from other females rather than create like jealousy or competition.
So I feel like that is something that I would
like to do, is gain a larger female audience, because
right now it's like so much just a male audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I think that to me is the old Okay,
that is more of a personal accomplishment than a business accomplishment,
I think, because those girls are never gonna buy as
much as the guys are. But it's got to feel
so good to have that kind of respect and acceptance
from other performers, other beautiful women being like, no, you
Annie are the most beautiful, You're the one, And I
totally get that. I always ask performers though, I'm like,
what kind of content do you wish you could produce
more of? And they all go, oh, lesbian stuff, and
I go, how does it sell? And they go not
at all, nobody wants it? And I feel so terrible
for them because I see how much they love it
and everything like that. Do you do custom videos ever?
Speaker 2: I do? I only do them on OnlyFans, so I
usually just redirect from trying to read only fans because
that's where your customers are gonna get done. Sure, but
like I said, I only do solos just for sake
of keeping it, you know, totally, I get it, mind,
But I do customs over there.
Speaker 1: Let me ask, uh, do you do customs where you
have to talk for an extended period of time, either
like at JOI or is it just like straight masturbation stuff?
Because I have a question and it's not sexy? How
do you keep a topic going for like I've used this.
If you paid for a custom video for me and
you were like, tell me how much you love my hair,
and you were like, I wanted to be five minutes,
I'd be like, your hair is so beautiful, it looks
so soft. I love it. It's very nice and then
I'd be like, I don't know what the fuck else
to say? What am I supposed to talk about your hair?
Do you ever like, have you ever gotten a custom
video request? And you're like, I don't know how to
stretch this. I don't know how to stretch this out.
Speaker 2: On only fans, I feel like not so much. I
feel like the requests I get are usually just like
different angles, different toys, different things happening simultaneously. But in
Chatterbait they have a like private room option, so I'm
basically just while on one with someone. I feel like
that's where the requests get a little weird.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I also just feel like I don't want to do
that if I can't come up with something else spot
I'm like, yeah, maybe I'm not your girl today. But
I feel like with only fans, I get pretty tame requests.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's that's nice. That's good to hear. Yeah,
you know, as your popularity increases more, you'll definitely get
more and more creepy ones and low ballers and be like,
so do you think you could do that for forty dollars?
And you have no. I don't think I'm going to
be involved with you whatsoever. Thank you. Let's talk about
some of the porn stuff then what type? Okay, so
normally you get requests like that you said you laid out.
Is that something you like doing. Do you like doing
custom content for people? Does it pay well? What is
your favorite thing that when you get a request either
on your only fans or chatterbait or whatever, is where
you go, Fuck, that's kind of easy. I kind of
like doing that. I don't mind. This is going to
be a good one.
Speaker 2: My favorite is when like they hop over my Amazon
wish lists buy something and they're like, use this, you know,
make you say my name, like do this XYZ. Use
a new thing because I'm always trying to come up
with new ideas. Like I said, solo work, I feel
like is one of the hardest things to do because
it's not just a collab with someone else. I have
to like have a different outfit and have a different
attitude and a different buye with my room and different makeup.
So I feel like whenever they get me something new
to use, then it's always fun.
Speaker 1: Sure, it's like an addition to the environment. It's like
this is my prop that I'm going to use something
builded the world around it, right exactly? Okay? Right? Are
you into women?
Speaker 2: I am? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, well I am, yes, I am without a doubt.
Don't fucking question me about women. I'm into women. Okay, cool,
just checking. Uh. Let me get into some of the
likes and dislikes and then I want to talk about
some mainstream stuff. So you are into women? Can you
rank these three for me? And I'll be honest with you.
These are a little more blunt and a lot less cute,
me being like dancing around the question, can you rank
these three for me? Swallow, facial, cream pie?
Speaker 2: I think Creampie is number one? Okay, is you know,
like come on connection? And then two swallow and then
three facial because I feel like I always get worried
about getting my hair, okay, which.
Speaker 1: Is dumb, but it's it's it's like the most common
thing I hear. I ask performers all the time and
they always go cream pie. And you actually were cute
about it. You were like, you know, it's like a
nice connection, Like, you know, aren't you into a breeding? Okay?
Speaker 2: Everybody person for everybody?
Speaker 1: Sure, But the number one answer I get is like
I don't want it to mess up my makeup, and
it's like, sweet, it's the end of the night. I
don't know how many more you think I got left
in me? All right, but sometimes.
Speaker 2: It's a lot. You know. Sometimes there's an expectation to
keep going and your makeup's already fucked up. So that's
my biggest concern.
Speaker 1: Sure, Uh what is your current working relationship with anal?
Are we friends? Are we looking into it in the future?
Do we are terrified of it?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll throw some stuff in my butt every
once in a while, but I'm not gonna save my favorite,
which is like such a donner for everyone. They're like, oh,
but I don't know. I'll throw a little here and there. Okay,
all right, I'm not like at all the person who's
going to be doing it every single time I film, So.
Speaker 1: All right, I think that's fair. Uh, case you what
your favorite sexual position is?
Speaker 2: My favorite? I like how girl because I like to.
I'm a switch, so I liked me on top and
I like to, you know, do my thing. Plus it
makes me feel pretty. I know, I get to be
up there. It's like I'm the star of the show.
But you know, I also like getting counted from behind,
So okay those two. What's what's your least favorite sexual
position where you're willing to do it but you're like,
oh that sucks. Hm. Least favorite probably reverse cowgirl actually
because I get bored, like I don't hold your feet.
Speaker 1: Number one answer, by the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's got to be reverse cowgirl. I'm like, what
am I looking at this? Like? This is all fun
for you? But what a mommy?
Speaker 1: All right, last little group of questions I have here?
Do you have any interest in breaking into mainstream porn? Porn?
Like if you were given a scenario that was laid
out and you could pick your partners, you could shoot
the scene exactly. Like one of the major guys comes
to you Brasser's Bangbros. Something like that and says, Annie,
we want to do a scene with you. We love
your look. What kind of scene would you want to do?
Would you want to work with just another female? Would
you want to shoot for this site? Da da da
da da? Is that something you would ever consider either
as a new experience in your life or a way
of boosting your profile in all your other arenas where
you make money.
Speaker 2: It's definitely something that I've thought about. And I guess
the opportunity just hasn't presented itself, or an opportunity that
seemed worth it hasn't presented itself to me. But I
would absolutely do it. And I've done a lot in
my own personal sexual life, so there's not a whole
lot that I'd be like, WHOA, I don't want want
to do that. The reason I do solose is it's
just convenient right now. But if that happened, then I
would be totally open to it.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm telling you a lot of those
sites have things where you can apply as a model.
I don't know if you've applied to them yet. If
you do desire to do any of that, every one
of them will scoop you up. You're too bubbly, you're
too pretty, you're too professional about it when you like
present yourself. You wouldn't send something with like all lowercase
letters and be like want to be on your site.
And then even some of them, if you wrote that
and look like that, they'd be like, we'll fucking figure
it out. I don't know, I don't think she can spell,
but like, we will absolutely figure this out. So if
that's ever a thing of yours. You will have no problem.
You will look back on doing this show and be like,
holy shit, I talked to that podcast guy those years
ago before I started banking all this cash. Just consider
it if you're comfortable doing it, is all I'll say.
Last question I have for you, and you said you
were twenty five? Correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Almost? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay? What should the age be?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: And this is controversial, but not really. I'm making no
judgment on this. I'm just collecting opinions. You would be
surprised at some of the answers I get. And I'll
give you some of those answers after I ask you
about this. What age should women, female performers, whatever you
want to say be allowed to get into the adult
entertainment industry. I'll just stop there and then you know,
you give me your opinion, and then I'll tell you
kind of the consensus on what we've talked about.
Speaker 2: For sure, I feel like, you know, obviously the age
is eighteen, But when I was eighteen, I didn't know
what I wanted. I got some of my tattoos when
I was eighteen. Now I look back and I'm like,
what what, so I feel like it should be twenty
one which you know, people might not like because everyone
wants them to look younger, unfortunately, But I feel like
the age should be twenty one, just because you have
experienced life as an adult for a little bit. Yeah,
so I don't think that it should be eighteen. And
I started when I was like twenty, and looking back,
you know, some may say I wish I would have
started earlier, but I wish I would have had time
to figure out more of my life before starting it.
You know, I feel like everyone should give it a
little bit of a shot to do something else before
resulting to this, unless it's absolutely what they want to do.
Speaker 1: So I've spoken to performers who got into the industry
at eighteen, and a lot of them all say twenty one.
Now you have Devil's Advocate. You have the example of
a sixteen year old girl gets kicked out of her house.
A couple years later, she's eighteen, she wants to get
into this industry so she could take care of herself
and survive and whatever. And that's a really, you know,
terrible situation. You don't want anyone to be in that
type of situation. But you're right, there's eight I've also
met eighteen year old who are a thousand times more
mature than me, and forty year olds who can barely
tie their fucking shoes. So you will. It's tough because
it's not a number, right, it's a maturity level. It's
when you were mature enough to do this. Kind of
the consensus we talked about is what if from eighteen
to twenty one, you could not do anything other than
solo content, just solo content, learn the marketing of it.
You can't upload any boy girl stuff to OnlyFans, you
can't upload it, or you can't shoot any boy girl
stuff for anyone. You do that for three years, you
learn the marketing of it, you learn how to sell
your product, quote unquote, and then at twenty one you
want to jump on and start doing you know, shooting
real big time stuff. Go ahead, there you go. I
think that's a nice little blend of like not taking
work away from anyone because you could be eighteen and
go die in a war. Right, you can get the
electric chair at eighteen, doesn't matter. Why can't you shoot porn?
I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a good compromise. I just think
that so many girls who are just freshly eighteen, Like
I've heard so many stores of people regretting their decision
to do so. I feel like Solo's is like a
good compromise because then you have control over everything you're doing,
as opposed to just getting thrown into the porn world.
Speaker 1: Not crazy costs associated with it, no travel stuff necessary.
You just kind of you learn the business, is what
I would say. I don't know, Annie, So what is
the future hold? What are we going? What is our
next plateau? Have you set goals for yourself or are
you just having fun and enjoying it and building it
slowly or are you looking and go I want ten
thousand followers in the next sixteen months or whatever it is,
or what are you shooting for next?
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm doing a lot of growth, like organically,
but I am trying to up my followers on my
only Fans page. I feel like right now I'm relying
heavily on chatterbait, which is fine, but I'm trying to
get more of a following that wants like consistent videos
on my OnlyFans page. So I'm trying to at least
double a triple the amount of people that are there
right now. So that I'm not always live streaming, and
I want to keep that around, but maybe just jump platforms.
That's pretty much my goal for this year.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I I having talked to you today,
and I apologize I talked way too much. But I
find you fascinating. I find you so interesting. I think
you're beautiful. I think I love Okay, even though I
don't know anything about it. I love the rave thing
because I grew up kind of the opposite but similar.
I grew up with like goth chicks. I love goth chicks, girls,
this and that, so anything that looks big or bright,
which is kind of the opposite of god stuff, but
similar along those lines. It's just such a turn on
for me. It's such a turn on. And I think
you produce some of the coolest stuff I've seen, even
just on your Twitter. A lot of your pictures are
so fucking professional looking. You always look good.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Shot on iPhone definitely at a festival by myself.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many interviews I've done with
people who have some big, high end camera and I go,
this looks terrible right now, and then I see the
most beautiful colored pictures of you. And it's just like
I just shot on like an iPhone six.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, hopefully newer than that. But yeah, I've
screened up my friends pretty well to.
Speaker 1: Help out there. You go. Okay, folks, uh, if you
have no money right now, you have to at least
follow Annie here on Twitter and Instagram. I'm going to
include the link to the Instagram, but on Twitter at
Annie Summers A N I Summers s U, M M
E R S XO. That's on Twitter. Payday rolls around.
You have a little bit of cash, your kids like
I need to pay for braces. You tell them to
go eat some pudding. I have shit to buy right now. Okay,
I'm heading on over to OnlyFans or chatter based chatterbait,
depending upon which one she's on at the moment. But
it's at Annie Summers and I Summers on OnlyFans and Chatterbait. Annie,
thank you so much for coming on with me tonight.
I wish you nothing but success. I think you will
have success as long as you just understand this is
a business and keep your nose to the grindstone and
get it done. So I want to thank you for
coming on, and again I want to wish you nothing
but success.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for having me. I really enjoyed yapping.
I was nervous, but I really enjoyed yapping with you.
Thank you for having so much.
Speaker 1: Thank you