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Speaker 1: You're watching brand new faces. I'm your host, Matt, and

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I'm joined tonight by a very special guest. Now I

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had to ask her how you say her name exactly?

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So that tells you how much research I do on

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all of my guests that come on Truth Be Told.

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First thing I do is I see a person and

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I go, well, she is gorgeous. Check for this person.

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I go, is everything set up on all their socials

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and all their other sites? Are they professional? Check for

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this person as well. So if you're broken, you don't

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have any money right now, bare minimum you could do

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is follow these folks on social media. Okay, we need

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to pump up these numbers so they can get more jobs,

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more work, this and that. They're content creators. They're not

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just here because you love them. You got to really

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support these people and boost these people on Twitter at

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Annie Summer's ex Ani Summers XO. Now, paycheck rolls around,

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Payday rolls around. You have a check in your account,

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You're like, oh, I got a little bit of cash.

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I want to spend it. Now, I want to treat myself.

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You can head on over to either OnlyFans or Chatterbait.

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If she's on at Annie Summers. An I Summers links

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to everything in the episode description as always remember follow

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these folks, Support these folks, ladies and gentlemen. My guest

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for the evening, Annie Summers. Honnie, thank you so much

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for coming on with me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I was really excited when

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you reached out so looking forward to our yap.

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Speaker 1: I was really excited when you said yes. I was like,

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oh my god, is this a fucking bot account? Like

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you were one of the most beautiful people I've ever

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had on this show. And that's no disrespect to anyone

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else I've had on this show. It's just it shocks me.

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Sometimes it's like you get a little bit of reach

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and if you're friendly enough to people, sometimes hot girls

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will say yes. It's a strange, strange experience I've never

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had in my life. Annie. Let me start with the

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third rudest question you can ask a woman. Okay, am

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I allowed to ask you? How old you are?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You can ask me. I am about to be

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twenty five, So I'm twenty four right now?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, uh okay. I grew up listening to rap.

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I have no idea what a woman's measurements are okay.

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When they would go like thirty five, twenty six, twenty four,

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I would go, oh, that girl sounds thick or something.

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I don't know. I like it. I came up with

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my own metrics for measurement on this show. Also, I

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apologize my hands come at the scream a lot. I'm

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not grabbing at you.

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Speaker 2: Good. Uh.

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Speaker 1: First metric I always use is height. Could I s

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get how tall you are?

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Speaker 2: I am five ten?

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Speaker 1: Whoa that you have? Those are model looks then, not

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just like hot girl who's five to three secretly behind

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the scenes.

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Speaker 2: Right, I feel like the tattoos kind of x naate

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me from the model world. But I did play volleyball

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and I ran track through partially through college, So I

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feel like that's where I use my height. Okay, now

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I'm using here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's fair. Can I ask you what

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your cup size is? That's my second metric.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Victoria's secret kind of lies. But I

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am a thirty two d Okay?

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Speaker 1: All right? Wonderful? And again, if you folks are just

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listening to this, don't go check out the video and

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make sure you follow these people because they post shit

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all the time for free. And then you pay a

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little bit and you get some Anyway, last metric here

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for my foot guys, not necessarily what I'm into, but

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it's non destructive, so I don't come down on people

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for having it. What is your shoe size?

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Speaker 2: I am a true nine and a half so big girl.

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Speaker 1: Ye you are, but you we'll get into it. I

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definitely want to talk about you, your look, your style,

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what you're trying to represent. Let me do the boring

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question that always tends to lead to interesting stuff. How

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did you initially decide to get into the adult entertainment

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industry in whatever field that was, whether it was camming, dancing,

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You're shooting gang bangs on your eighteenth birthday? Like, what

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is the day when you decided fuck this, I can't

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do vanilla regular life anymore. I have to take a

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step in a different direction. Now is your turn to talk?

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Speaker 2: Well, I am actually still in school. So I started,

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I believe at the very end of twenty twenty or

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the beginning of twenty twenty one, when the pandemic was

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kind of at its peak. And I am sure you've

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seen I go to a lot of festivals where nudity

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is just all over and I became very desensitized to it,

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and I decided why not capitalize on this? So somewhere,

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my only fans. And it hasn't been you know, a

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straight line of me being consistent since twenty twenty one.

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But I started with my only fans, you know, just

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a couple of pictures here and there, and then it

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kind of expanded to me camming now and then I

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also dance in that club. So I actually started with

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OnlyFans and then kind of branched out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And what was was it just like I got

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bills to pay, I want to do something from home.

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Antie Anne's hat on and stand in the mall like

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it was it a good blend of being able to

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do that wow in school that created the opportunity for you?

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Like how did you just decide fuck this? Have you

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always been this type of like a sexualized person into

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stuff or like what was the line? Because I look

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a look at me, I'm a goddamn mess. For me

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to be able to put myself nude online, it would

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be like, I don't know, mafia about to cut my

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legs off, like they'd have to be like, either you

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post your fucking stomach online or we cut it off.

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When did you? Did you just know like you're a

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hot girl? Like of course if I throw something online,

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like something will come of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it initially started with paying for school, okay, because

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tuition is going to pay itself. I'm actually doing like

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a marathon on chatterbray right now where I'm streaming as

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much as physically possible to pay for school. So I

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feel like that was kind of the motivation behind it.

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And I was actually raised Mormon, Okay, So there came

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a point where I was like, none of this makes

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sense and I'm completely comfortable in my body and I

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might as well just use it. So I finally got

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to a point where I stopped caring about what everyone

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else thought and I just started doing it for me.

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I don't know, it wasn't really like an awakening, sure,

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it was just me kind of deciding I'm fine with

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this and I'm gonna give it a show.

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Speaker 1: I've interviewed so many mainstream girls that I hear it

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started on the Mormon compound I grew up or we

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were a very religious family, or I was closeted from

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you folks. I think there's a formula now if you

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want your daughter to become a really hot porn star,

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really throw that big cloak of religion around her early

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in life.

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Speaker 2: I love do it.

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Speaker 1: Did it make you okay? Again, only go as far

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as you're willing to go in as far as you're

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comfortable going. But you mentioned it, you said you grew

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up in. Was it a Mormon household? Was it just folks,

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we Mormon Mormon community. Did that make this type of

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thing so much more enticing? Or was it always like

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the taboo kind of industry of the world that you

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hated and thought was gross And then finally when you

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like stuck your toe in, you were like, Oh, actually

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this isn't so bad, this isn't terrible. There's control it.

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Did you have that type of thing where they were

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coming down on you, holding you down early on?

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Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, okay, I've always said that Mormon

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girls are going to be the craziest because everything is

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so suppressed. But I was lucky enough to like slip

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away a little early, and I was doing all these

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things behind closed doors anyways, And so there wasn't any

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point where I was like, Wow, I'm going to rebel

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against my religion that I grew up And it was

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just kind of me finding my own footing and realizing

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that my ideals didn't align with that.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? You mentioned you look your style is very

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rave oriented. I'm an old man. I have no context

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of that. I'm an old man that grew up in

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New Jersey. Like we don't have fun shit. Necessarily, talk

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me through that. What brought you into that lifestyle, what

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do you love about that lifestyle? And then let's see

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how we can relate that to some of the other

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things we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, I went to my first rave when I

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was sixteen, OK, And I pretty much never looked back. Obviously,

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the people are very free spirited and it was something

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I wanted to be a part of. Everyone is just

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so accepting of one another, and you can be anyone

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you want to be without judgment. On top of that,

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I don't know if you're familiar with plur at all,

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but peace, love you, and you respect that kind of

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just like drew me in because no matter what I

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was doing, I would have the respect of all of

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the people around me, and everyone is so friendly. I

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love the music. I started going because of the music.

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the community around Raving.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, how is so you laid out principles?

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of Catholic school. Catholics love to lay out principles too.

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Catholics love to lay out rules too, and then they

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have their own little exceptions where problems happen. It's beautiful

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the idea you just laid out of the rave community.

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To me, how true is it? Are there ways people

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deal with problem people in that community? Are there less

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instances of problem people in that community than there are

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in other ones? Like I literally have no concept of it.

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Speaker 2: I would like to say that there are like minimal problems,

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but there still are. And even now, like a couple

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of years ago, I got announced that ETIM festivals were

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a trend, and so the group of people is becoming

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more saturated with people who don' I don't carry the

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ideals of the ADM community, but for the most part,

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in place, So in my experience, I haven't seen too

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many awful things. Obviously, you're going to have your one

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offs and random instances where someone isn't respecting the culture.

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kind of just knows to be a good person.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, very cool again, whatever's private, keep personal.

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I won't ask where, but you said you're in school.

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Uh can I ask what you're in school for? And

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do you have any of the or did have you

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learned anything? Have you taken any skills that can translate

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into the other stuff you're currently working on? Like if

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you were in school for marketing right now, go oh

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right up your alley, there you go. You know you

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can move it over here. What are you in school for?

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Speaker 2: I wish I was in school for marketing. I am

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double and nursing and integrative health. So I want to

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do cosmetic injections. So the only thing that's going to

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help me here is thinking myself feel good. I want

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to help others feel good in their own skin, so

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I want to do like botox and filler and all

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that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you okay? You again? For anyone just listening.

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You are beautiful, You are absolutely perfect. Do you see

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yourself going that road of getting a lot of work

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done later on in life? Or are you? Do you

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think it would be so funny? It wouldn't if all

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these years like you did that and you look beautiful

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and you're giving injections to people and this and that,

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and you hit a certain point and someone goes, Honi,

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would you like a little botox? And you oh, fuck no,

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I don't mess with that stuff, like I naturally age

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and get beautiful. Do you see yourself going down that road?

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Do you have? I guess you would have no reservations

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or problems with it, right.

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Speaker 2: No, I have no problem with it. And I'm pretty

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open about what I have gotten done. Like I get

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botox because I'm very expressive, so I get it in

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like my forehead, between my brows because I make a

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lot of faces. But like natural lips, natural tits, natural ass.

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Speaker 1: You know, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Actually, maybe I'll get more done, but I try to

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keep it pretty minimal.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I think that's fair. Let's talk about

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some of your actual content or the stuff you're trying

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to produce. Now, you said you're doing a streaming kind

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of a marathon thing right now. Right by the way, folks,

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if you are on chatter bait right now where you

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listen to this, you can at least follow her at

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Annie Summers an i Summers links in the episode description

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what are you doing? See when I went to pay

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off my student loans? I worked time and a half overtime.

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I worked seventy five hours a week for two years

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and I paid off my student loans. Can I ask you,

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do you have a number you think it's gonna sit

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at when you're done that you're trying to either work

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towards or save up.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just finished my first degree, so I graduated

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with my bachelor's so I'm trying to pay that down

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and then I will additionally have to pay for nursing school.

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And depending on where I go, that number fluctuates, but

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I'm trying. It is a six digit number that we're

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going to have at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: So damn. I know a girl who left school and

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got the same job as me, and I had like

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thirty grand with a student loan debt, and she left

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with a quarter million. Do you think you'll be up

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around there? Towards the end of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eventually I would be there, but I don't know how.

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You know, with like online work, it really fluctuates. The

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holidays is hit, everyone will spend time with their families,

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but then the holidays pass and everyone came back, So

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it fluctuates. But we'll get there eventually.

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Speaker 1: I got it.

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Speaker 2: I don't see myself stopping until I'm solidified in my career.

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Speaker 1: Talk me through your room. So if I show up

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into your chat room, is it just you looking hot?

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Is it you playing games? Is it you conversing with people?

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What am I getting? When I come in and check

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out your room, I.

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Speaker 2: Feel like I'm definitely Brady online. So usually it's me

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Madre listening to idiom, which I usually like yap in.

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I have a tip menu so you can tip for X,

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y Z, you know, top off, bottom off for X

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amount of time, vibrator, client, et cetera. And just like

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messaging with me, I don't go just like straight to

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nudity unless I really feel like it, because you know,

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every single thing can be tipped for, so I just

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take advantage of that.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I think that makes total I think so many times,

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and you know, I don't want it to happen. I'm

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a beneficiary when it does happen. But so many times

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I feel like girls get into the cam game or

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the other stuff Twitter or whatever and just immediately start

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kind of throwing it out there. And there's two ideas

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of thought behind that. You know, you bait the waters

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a little bit, just because someone seeing your tits once

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doesn't mean they're not gonna want to pay to see

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it again and again and again. But you also have

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that group of people where when you sign up for

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a chat site, you get that new tag for a

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little while, and you get ten thousand people in your

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room and like two people are tipping, and you go, well,

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I'd rather have a room of two people than I

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would ten thousand if only two of them are gonna

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tip personal Yeah, yeah, right. Do you have a good

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community that you're building through chat currently? Like are you going?

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Do you discuss your daily plans with them? Not not

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details or anything. You're like, I'll be here at six

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am and then by eighty yeah yeah yeah, and algo

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tag them for you and do you like I never know,

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because look, if I go into a chat room, I'm

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going to a chat room for a reason, and so

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many people don't, is what I've learned. I've learned so

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many conversations through so many conversations with performers like you.

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People come in those rooms for companionship, to like talk,

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to actually be like, you know, Annie, I can't believe

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this happened at work today, And in my head I'd

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be going like, please take your fucking top off. That's

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all I'm asking. But they, you know, want a little

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more than that. Are you comfortable giving that kind of

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interaction with people or do you do it as more

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of a broadcast like an out?

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Speaker 2: Uh? No. I feel like I'm really interactive with the

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people that are in there, and the same people I

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have noticed come back and my like day ones, the

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ones that show up all the time, I'm like invested

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in their lives and happy to yap with them. I

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always tell my chatterbait room, like you guys come to

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yap and you can see me in again when it's

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baked for Yeah. So, and I know so many people

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other like do it differently, but I feel like a

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lot of people do come to listen to me talk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think that's crazy. Again, Yeah, so many

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people want like that genuine experience with another person. Yeah,

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we mentioned the rave stuff before, can I all right,

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let's get into some of this stuff. What is the

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sex culture like with rave stuff? Is it do you

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approach people? I know that really sounds like an old man, like,

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how do you kiss girls at the fucking concert? That's

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Is there a way to engage? Because you hear stories

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afterwards on like you know, the ten thousand condoms that

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ended up somewhere else and blah blah blah. You know,

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what is the sex culture like around the rave type thing?

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Speaker 2: I think it's different between each festival, Like, for one,

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I know at Burning Man they had like an orgy

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ten That's not something that's going to happen at every

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single festival. And I have seen, you know, people get

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in head in the middle of the pit at the

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rail and you know, I've seen my fair share of stuff.

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But I don't think that that's like the norm. I

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don't think that that's the expectation. And I think that

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if that happens under the right circumstances where like, you know,

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they aren't a bunch of people around who aren't giving consent,

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you know, weirded out by it, so be it, sure,

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but I don't think that that is as prevalent as

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people think.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, just like.

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Speaker 2: Out in the open, just like every for everyone to

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see see.

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Speaker 1: Just judging by my question there, I thought it was

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definitely more prevalent than you're kind of Is there a

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can you give me this? What are the three like

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most sex filled even if it's only a little bit

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like an org ten or whatever, What are the three

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most sex filled festivals? Would you say?

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Speaker 2: I mean, definitely I have an intended Bernie Man, But

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from what I've heard Bernie Man, okay, I don't know

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any like outdoor camping event. I feel like there's a

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lot of miscuous behavior because everyone is just like camping

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outhoors together. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: By the way you just laid it, nothing could make

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my dick softer than a girl, even as hot as

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you coming up and being like I haven't showered in

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three days, it'd be like, oh, great, okay, we shower. Well,

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the camping event made it sound like, no, there's not

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so much showering type of thing. I don't know, Maybe

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I'm picturing a different camping event. You guys keep it clean,

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like no one's all scurfy and shit when you're walking around.

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Speaker 2: I shower every day, they bring in showers.

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Speaker 1: You you do, you do, you can be trusted. Then

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I bet there's a lot of other people where it's like, Yo,

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that dude fucking stinks. I don't want to stand around him,

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And there are people like that, sure, sure, uh So

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have you always been this sexual? I know we kind

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of touched on it before, but not really in depth,

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like does this fit you? If you went back and

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told your fifteen year old self, like you might be

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doing this someday, your fifteen year old self might think, yeah, okay,

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I can kind of see that. Or is this a

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total one to eighty from your normal personality? The sexuality?

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Speaker 2: At least it's pretty on brand. I would say, like

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even in high school, like I was just a very

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flirty girl, and like growing up, I kind of saw

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this happening. I recently like opened a letter from my

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eighth grade self to open like my senior year, and

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in that letter, I kind of like there's a lot

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of foreshadowing where I'm like, you're gonna be a party girl,

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You're gonna do some crazy things in your life. So

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I feel like I always knew I was going to

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be like this, though I didn't know how or to

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what extent. I kind of knew I was gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Here, But you know what, do you Okay, let me

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ask you. Do you get out of control at the things? Ever?

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Because the way it sounds to me and Okay, I'm

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just gonna be honest with you. When I first started

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looking at your pictures that pulled you up. This is rude.

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I should not have made judgments like this. I was like,

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this is gonna be one of the hottest girls I

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talked to on the show. But I wonder if she

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knows how to like power through conversation. I wonder if

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she's just kind of like one of those music checks

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like ah, you know whatever, I just like to beat.

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You are like very professional, you are very like Sirio

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is not in a shitty way like you seem you

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could take this seriously? How does that clash or am

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I do I just have the impression of the whole

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rave idea wrong. I have the impressions more that it's

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like hot chicks kind of like, oh, you know, tripping

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on something.

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Speaker 2: There are definitely girls like that. I feel like there's

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also like a lot of people in the rave community

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that work in like healthcare or as lawyers, and this

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is just what they do with their free time and

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their adult money. So I don't think there's any class

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because I feel like there's room for everyone in the

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rave community. You don't have to like be a pinfo

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And I feel like the same is like the same

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applies to sex work online. Sure, everyone kind of just

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assumes that you're just like I can't do anything else.

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But no, I was like that gifted kid, you know,

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like top of your class, like athletic. Everyone wanted me

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to be a doctor, and I was like, well, I

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want to do other things, like I want to be

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a little sexy sometimes and go party on weekends.

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Speaker 1: So I get it, I get it. That makes total

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sense to me. Yeah, again, apologies on the judgment. I

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don't know the community, and oh I know, I know

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I'm saying to the audience too, like I have no

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concept of what this community. So yeah, I think that

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was kind of the impression I got. But I've talked

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to so many girls. You even said it early on

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that I thought was so smart when I said, are

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you going to school for mark? Oh God, I wish

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right I talked to so many performers who You're right.

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The outside perception of the rave world is one thing.

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The outside perception of the porn world is also another thing.

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Where it's Annie shows up on set, she gets fucked

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by a guy, she gets paid forty thousand dollars, she

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goes home and doesn't have to tweet anything or anything else.

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Did you? And it's just totally the opposite of that.

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It's like this much of the sex stuff and then

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the rest of its social media marketing. This that did

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you realize coming into this that so much of it

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was the marketing aspect? Or did you think, like I

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can get by on looks and personality? Did you? Were

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you aware of how much was going to go into

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that as well.

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Speaker 2: I was aware, but I didn't know to what extent. So,

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like my first like social media blow up was on

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TikTok actually, which was for all of my rave content,

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and I feel like I kind of used that to

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segue into what I'm doing now. But even now, I

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like only shoot solos, so I have to market myself

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and everything I do so much more and come up

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with new ideas all the time, rather than like relying

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on some collab with someone and their audience to carry

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me through. So I knew it was going to be

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a battle to market just myself. But you have to

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like really work to retain followers and like game loyalty

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and have those people coming back and back, otherwise they're

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not going to be successful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one hundred percent right. You have to like

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offer people without overcrowding them. You have to find that

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nice blend, that mix of I'm presenting myself, but I'm

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not giving you everything, so you'll skip past me. You

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have to engage, but you can't engage too closely. Then

476
00:24:46,759 --> 00:24:49,480
you have creeps who are checking your GEO tags and

477
00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:53,960
everything else. And yeah, it's a balancing act that people

478
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,519
in the outside world just don't really get. Like I've

479
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:02,440
asked performers before, whould you rather market a ten men?

480
00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:05,519
This is no offense numbers wise, a ten who has

481
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,240
no social media skills or a six who like can

482
00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:11,440
figure out the algorithm ten times out of ten. It's like, oh,

483
00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:13,880
that girl the six, like she knows how to work this.

484
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,720
The job itself is almost more marketing than it is sex.

485
00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:22,839
It feels like at times, right, yeah, yeah, you're selling

486
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,400
a product the product is yourself, your looks, your videos,

487
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,559
whatever you want to consider it. But you are selling

488
00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:31,640
a product every time, and you know, especially when there's

489
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,079
so many different options, So how do you set yourself apart? Then?

490
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,640
Is it just the and I don't say it just

491
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,079
as if that's a downgrade. Is it the rave thing?

492
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,599
Are you going to be like five years from now

493
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:45,400
in the industry, the rave girl? This is Annie Summer,

494
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,279
She's the rave girl.

495
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not the first one to do it. Try No,

496
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:52,359
tons of rave girls that have like branded themselves on

497
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,279
OnlyFans or like in their sex work as the rape girl.

498
00:25:56,079 --> 00:25:58,880
But I do rely heavily on that because of how

499
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,400
many events I tend. So that's what I'm doing. And

500
00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:07,559
you know, I am also just like branding myself as

501
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,880
me and creating content I want and being silly doing whatever. Sure,

502
00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:16,640
so I wouldn't say I'm the rain world, but I

503
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,079
do say it like I will say, a lot of

504
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,480
my content is based on going to festivals and because

505
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,160
that's what I'm doing.

506
00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: So sure, is there anyone in the industry that and

507
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,960
maybe not? I can't tell you how many times I

508
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,960
ask this question and they go, no, none, whatsoever. Is

509
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,200
there anyone you kind of like look up to and

510
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,160
not that you're biting their style or any of that shit,

511
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,880
but you're like, that is really cool, and that's what

512
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,240
I'd like to work towards a version of that.

513
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've heard this so many times because she

514
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,880
is wo she is, but I look up to Ari

515
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,920
because of like how large of a female audience she

516
00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:56,920
has grown. I think that's something that's really hard to

517
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,319
do when you're doing this kind of work, is gain

518
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,079
acceptance from other females rather than create like jealousy or competition.

519
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,440
So I feel like that is something that I would

520
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:10,279
like to do, is gain a larger female audience, because

521
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,400
right now it's like so much just a male audience.

522
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I think that to me is the old Okay,

523
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,559
that is more of a personal accomplishment than a business accomplishment,

524
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:30,759
I think, because those girls are never gonna buy as

525
00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:33,559
much as the guys are. But it's got to feel

526
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:37,200
so good to have that kind of respect and acceptance

527
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,559
from other performers, other beautiful women being like, no, you

528
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,400
Annie are the most beautiful, You're the one, And I

529
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,440
totally get that. I always ask performers though, I'm like,

530
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,000
what kind of content do you wish you could produce

531
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:54,240
more of? And they all go, oh, lesbian stuff, and

532
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:55,839
I go, how does it sell? And they go not

533
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,119
at all, nobody wants it? And I feel so terrible

534
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,720
for them because I see how much they love it

535
00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:05,359
and everything like that. Do you do custom videos ever?

536
00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: I do? I only do them on OnlyFans, so I

537
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,279
usually just redirect from trying to read only fans because

538
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,279
that's where your customers are gonna get done. Sure, but

539
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:19,119
like I said, I only do solos just for sake

540
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,559
of keeping it, you know, totally, I get it, mind,

541
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:28,440
But I do customs over there.

542
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: Let me ask, uh, do you do customs where you

543
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:36,079
have to talk for an extended period of time, either

544
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:39,279
like at JOI or is it just like straight masturbation stuff?

545
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:42,480
Because I have a question and it's not sexy? How

546
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:46,400
do you keep a topic going for like I've used this.

547
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,440
If you paid for a custom video for me and

548
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,119
you were like, tell me how much you love my hair,

549
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,279
and you were like, I wanted to be five minutes,

550
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:54,559
I'd be like, your hair is so beautiful, it looks

551
00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:57,880
so soft. I love it. It's very nice and then

552
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,559
I'd be like, I don't know what the fuck else

553
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:01,519
to say? What am I supposed to talk about your hair?

554
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,480
Do you ever like, have you ever gotten a custom

555
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:06,400
video request? And you're like, I don't know how to

556
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,079
stretch this. I don't know how to stretch this out.

557
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:11,559
Speaker 2: On only fans, I feel like not so much. I

558
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:13,480
feel like the requests I get are usually just like

559
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:18,759
different angles, different toys, different things happening simultaneously. But in

560
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,839
Chatterbait they have a like private room option, so I'm

561
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:25,279
basically just while on one with someone. I feel like

562
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:27,160
that's where the requests get a little weird.

563
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: Okay.

564
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: I also just feel like I don't want to do

565
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,160
that if I can't come up with something else spot

566
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,279
I'm like, yeah, maybe I'm not your girl today. But

567
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:38,319
I feel like with only fans, I get pretty tame requests.

568
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:41,759
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's that's nice. That's good to hear. Yeah,

569
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:45,279
you know, as your popularity increases more, you'll definitely get

570
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:49,640
more and more creepy ones and low ballers and be like,

571
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,599
so do you think you could do that for forty dollars?

572
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:53,160
And you have no. I don't think I'm going to

573
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,039
be involved with you whatsoever. Thank you. Let's talk about

574
00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:02,240
some of the porn stuff then what type? Okay, so

575
00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:04,680
normally you get requests like that you said you laid out.

576
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:07,039
Is that something you like doing. Do you like doing

577
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:09,839
custom content for people? Does it pay well? What is

578
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,039
your favorite thing that when you get a request either

579
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:14,119
on your only fans or chatterbait or whatever, is where

580
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,000
you go, Fuck, that's kind of easy. I kind of

581
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:18,200
like doing that. I don't mind. This is going to

582
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,920
be a good one.

583
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: My favorite is when like they hop over my Amazon

584
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,400
wish lists buy something and they're like, use this, you know,

585
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,799
make you say my name, like do this XYZ. Use

586
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:33,200
a new thing because I'm always trying to come up

587
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,640
with new ideas. Like I said, solo work, I feel

588
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,359
like is one of the hardest things to do because

589
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,000
it's not just a collab with someone else. I have

590
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:43,920
to like have a different outfit and have a different

591
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,000
attitude and a different buye with my room and different makeup.

592
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:49,559
So I feel like whenever they get me something new

593
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,759
to use, then it's always fun.

594
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:54,799
Speaker 1: Sure, it's like an addition to the environment. It's like

595
00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:56,519
this is my prop that I'm going to use something

596
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,480
builded the world around it, right exactly? Okay? Right? Are

597
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:02,640
you into women?

598
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:04,359
Speaker 2: I am? Yeah?

599
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: Okay, well I am, yes, I am without a doubt.

600
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,319
Don't fucking question me about women. I'm into women. Okay, cool,

601
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,440
just checking. Uh. Let me get into some of the

602
00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:15,400
likes and dislikes and then I want to talk about

603
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,880
some mainstream stuff. So you are into women? Can you

604
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:21,440
rank these three for me? And I'll be honest with you.

605
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,640
These are a little more blunt and a lot less cute,

606
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,400
me being like dancing around the question, can you rank

607
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,640
these three for me? Swallow, facial, cream pie?

608
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: I think Creampie is number one? Okay, is you know,

609
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,599
like come on connection? And then two swallow and then

610
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,400
three facial because I feel like I always get worried

611
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,000
about getting my hair, okay, which.

612
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: Is dumb, but it's it's it's like the most common

613
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,680
thing I hear. I ask performers all the time and

614
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,079
they always go cream pie. And you actually were cute

615
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:56,279
about it. You were like, you know, it's like a

616
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:59,400
nice connection, Like, you know, aren't you into a breeding? Okay?

617
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: Everybody person for everybody?

618
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: Sure, But the number one answer I get is like

619
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:05,519
I don't want it to mess up my makeup, and

620
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,240
it's like, sweet, it's the end of the night. I

621
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,240
don't know how many more you think I got left

622
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,240
in me? All right, but sometimes.

623
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,839
Speaker 2: It's a lot. You know. Sometimes there's an expectation to

624
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,519
keep going and your makeup's already fucked up. So that's

625
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:21,480
my biggest concern.

626
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: Sure, Uh what is your current working relationship with anal?

627
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:29,799
Are we friends? Are we looking into it in the future?

628
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:32,160
Do we are terrified of it?

629
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll throw some stuff in my butt every

630
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,839
once in a while, but I'm not gonna save my favorite,

631
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,799
which is like such a donner for everyone. They're like, oh,

632
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:47,359
but I don't know. I'll throw a little here and there. Okay,

633
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,839
all right, I'm not like at all the person who's

634
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:53,039
going to be doing it every single time I film, So.

635
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,559
Speaker 1: All right, I think that's fair. Uh, case you what

636
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,119
your favorite sexual position is?

637
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: My favorite? I like how girl because I like to.

638
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:11,960
I'm a switch, so I liked me on top and

639
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,759
I like to, you know, do my thing. Plus it

640
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:16,519
makes me feel pretty. I know, I get to be

641
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:19,200
up there. It's like I'm the star of the show.

642
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,960
But you know, I also like getting counted from behind,

643
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:30,079
So okay those two. What's what's your least favorite sexual

644
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,519
position where you're willing to do it but you're like,

645
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:44,440
oh that sucks. Hm. Least favorite probably reverse cowgirl actually

646
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,480
because I get bored, like I don't hold your feet.

647
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: Number one answer, by the way.

648
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:51,839
Speaker 2: Yeah it's got to be reverse cowgirl. I'm like, what

649
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,079
am I looking at this? Like? This is all fun

650
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,279
for you? But what a mommy?

651
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: All right, last little group of questions I have here?

652
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,160
Do you have any interest in breaking into mainstream porn? Porn?

653
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,039
Like if you were given a scenario that was laid

654
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:14,199
out and you could pick your partners, you could shoot

655
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,599
the scene exactly. Like one of the major guys comes

656
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:20,320
to you Brasser's Bangbros. Something like that and says, Annie,

657
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,800
we want to do a scene with you. We love

658
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,760
your look. What kind of scene would you want to do?

659
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,199
Would you want to work with just another female? Would

660
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,920
you want to shoot for this site? Da da da

661
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,199
da da? Is that something you would ever consider either

662
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,280
as a new experience in your life or a way

663
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,800
of boosting your profile in all your other arenas where

664
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,519
you make money.

665
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,559
Speaker 2: It's definitely something that I've thought about. And I guess

666
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:45,880
the opportunity just hasn't presented itself, or an opportunity that

667
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,400
seemed worth it hasn't presented itself to me. But I

668
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,320
would absolutely do it. And I've done a lot in

669
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,559
my own personal sexual life, so there's not a whole

670
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:00,199
lot that I'd be like, WHOA, I don't want want

671
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,079
to do that. The reason I do solose is it's

672
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:09,400
just convenient right now. But if that happened, then I

673
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,800
would be totally open to it.

674
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm telling you a lot of those

675
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,039
sites have things where you can apply as a model.

676
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:19,559
I don't know if you've applied to them yet. If

677
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:21,960
you do desire to do any of that, every one

678
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,760
of them will scoop you up. You're too bubbly, you're

679
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,360
too pretty, you're too professional about it when you like

680
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,760
present yourself. You wouldn't send something with like all lowercase

681
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,199
letters and be like want to be on your site.

682
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,440
And then even some of them, if you wrote that

683
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:37,440
and look like that, they'd be like, we'll fucking figure

684
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,400
it out. I don't know, I don't think she can spell,

685
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,199
but like, we will absolutely figure this out. So if

686
00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:47,880
that's ever a thing of yours. You will have no problem.

687
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,119
You will look back on doing this show and be like,

688
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:53,440
holy shit, I talked to that podcast guy those years

689
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,880
ago before I started banking all this cash. Just consider

690
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,199
it if you're comfortable doing it, is all I'll say.

691
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:03,880
Last question I have for you, and you said you

692
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,880
were twenty five? Correct?

693
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah? Almost? Yeah?

694
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: Okay? What should the age be?

695
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: That?

696
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: And this is controversial, but not really. I'm making no

697
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,880
judgment on this. I'm just collecting opinions. You would be

698
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,280
surprised at some of the answers I get. And I'll

699
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,000
give you some of those answers after I ask you

700
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:27,239
about this. What age should women, female performers, whatever you

701
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,639
want to say be allowed to get into the adult

702
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,960
entertainment industry. I'll just stop there and then you know,

703
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:37,760
you give me your opinion, and then I'll tell you

704
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,880
kind of the consensus on what we've talked about.

705
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,559
Speaker 2: For sure, I feel like, you know, obviously the age

706
00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:47,880
is eighteen, But when I was eighteen, I didn't know

707
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,800
what I wanted. I got some of my tattoos when

708
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,320
I was eighteen. Now I look back and I'm like,

709
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,239
what what, so I feel like it should be twenty

710
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,880
one which you know, people might not like because everyone

711
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:04,400
wants them to look younger, unfortunately, But I feel like

712
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,760
the age should be twenty one, just because you have

713
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,239
experienced life as an adult for a little bit. Yeah,

714
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,199
so I don't think that it should be eighteen. And

715
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,679
I started when I was like twenty, and looking back,

716
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,880
you know, some may say I wish I would have

717
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,639
started earlier, but I wish I would have had time

718
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:26,559
to figure out more of my life before starting it.

719
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,960
You know, I feel like everyone should give it a

720
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,519
little bit of a shot to do something else before

721
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:34,239
resulting to this, unless it's absolutely what they want to do.

722
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,599
Speaker 1: So I've spoken to performers who got into the industry

723
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,079
at eighteen, and a lot of them all say twenty one.

724
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,199
Now you have Devil's Advocate. You have the example of

725
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,400
a sixteen year old girl gets kicked out of her house.

726
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,519
A couple years later, she's eighteen, she wants to get

727
00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:50,639
into this industry so she could take care of herself

728
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,280
and survive and whatever. And that's a really, you know,

729
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:55,519
terrible situation. You don't want anyone to be in that

730
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:59,360
type of situation. But you're right, there's eight I've also

731
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,760
met eighteen year old who are a thousand times more

732
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,039
mature than me, and forty year olds who can barely

733
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:07,519
tie their fucking shoes. So you will. It's tough because

734
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,280
it's not a number, right, it's a maturity level. It's

735
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:13,079
when you were mature enough to do this. Kind of

736
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:16,760
the consensus we talked about is what if from eighteen

737
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,519
to twenty one, you could not do anything other than

738
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:24,480
solo content, just solo content, learn the marketing of it.

739
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:28,519
You can't upload any boy girl stuff to OnlyFans, you

740
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:31,039
can't upload it, or you can't shoot any boy girl

741
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,639
stuff for anyone. You do that for three years, you

742
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,400
learn the marketing of it, you learn how to sell

743
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,599
your product, quote unquote, and then at twenty one you

744
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,280
want to jump on and start doing you know, shooting

745
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,159
real big time stuff. Go ahead, there you go. I

746
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:48,800
think that's a nice little blend of like not taking

747
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,760
work away from anyone because you could be eighteen and

748
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,280
go die in a war. Right, you can get the

749
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,079
electric chair at eighteen, doesn't matter. Why can't you shoot porn?

750
00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,840
I don't know.

751
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a good compromise. I just think

752
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,280
that so many girls who are just freshly eighteen, Like

753
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,880
I've heard so many stores of people regretting their decision

754
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,840
to do so. I feel like Solo's is like a

755
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,880
good compromise because then you have control over everything you're doing,

756
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,679
as opposed to just getting thrown into the porn world.

757
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,559
Speaker 1: Not crazy costs associated with it, no travel stuff necessary.

758
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:28,079
You just kind of you learn the business, is what

759
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:31,800
I would say. I don't know, Annie, So what is

760
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,960
the future hold? What are we going? What is our

761
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,119
next plateau? Have you set goals for yourself or are

762
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,519
you just having fun and enjoying it and building it

763
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:42,320
slowly or are you looking and go I want ten

764
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,079
thousand followers in the next sixteen months or whatever it is,

765
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,000
or what are you shooting for next?

766
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,119
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm doing a lot of growth, like organically,

767
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:55,119
but I am trying to up my followers on my

768
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:57,119
only Fans page. I feel like right now I'm relying

769
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:02,400
heavily on chatterbait, which is fine, but I'm trying to

770
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,719
get more of a following that wants like consistent videos

771
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,719
on my OnlyFans page. So I'm trying to at least

772
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,960
double a triple the amount of people that are there

773
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:16,800
right now. So that I'm not always live streaming, and

774
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,679
I want to keep that around, but maybe just jump platforms.

775
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:21,639
That's pretty much my goal for this year.

776
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I I having talked to you today,

777
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:30,599
and I apologize I talked way too much. But I

778
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,119
find you fascinating. I find you so interesting. I think

779
00:40:33,159 --> 00:40:37,639
you're beautiful. I think I love Okay, even though I

780
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:40,119
don't know anything about it. I love the rave thing

781
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:43,320
because I grew up kind of the opposite but similar.

782
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,159
I grew up with like goth chicks. I love goth chicks, girls,

783
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,000
this and that, so anything that looks big or bright,

784
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,239
which is kind of the opposite of god stuff, but

785
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:57,360
similar along those lines. It's just such a turn on

786
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,920
for me. It's such a turn on. And I think

787
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:03,440
you produce some of the coolest stuff I've seen, even

788
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:05,599
just on your Twitter. A lot of your pictures are

789
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,920
so fucking professional looking. You always look good.

790
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,599
Speaker 2: Thanks. Shot on iPhone definitely at a festival by myself.

791
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,159
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many interviews I've done with

792
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,719
people who have some big, high end camera and I go,

793
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,280
this looks terrible right now, and then I see the

794
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,199
most beautiful colored pictures of you. And it's just like

795
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,920
I just shot on like an iPhone six.

796
00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:32,039
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, hopefully newer than that. But yeah, I've

797
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:33,880
screened up my friends pretty well to.

798
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: Help out there. You go. Okay, folks, uh, if you

799
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,599
have no money right now, you have to at least

800
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:43,559
follow Annie here on Twitter and Instagram. I'm going to

801
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,880
include the link to the Instagram, but on Twitter at

802
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,119
Annie Summers A N I Summers s U, M M

803
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,599
E R S XO. That's on Twitter. Payday rolls around.

804
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,320
You have a little bit of cash, your kids like

805
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:57,320
I need to pay for braces. You tell them to

806
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,400
go eat some pudding. I have shit to buy right now. Okay,

807
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:04,079
I'm heading on over to OnlyFans or chatter based chatterbait,

808
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,039
depending upon which one she's on at the moment. But

809
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:12,440
it's at Annie Summers and I Summers on OnlyFans and Chatterbait. Annie,

810
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:14,119
thank you so much for coming on with me tonight.

811
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:16,320
I wish you nothing but success. I think you will

812
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,199
have success as long as you just understand this is

813
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,960
a business and keep your nose to the grindstone and

814
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,639
get it done. So I want to thank you for

815
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:26,400
coming on, and again I want to wish you nothing

816
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,119
but success.

817
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for having me. I really enjoyed yapping.

818
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,360
I was nervous, but I really enjoyed yapping with you.

819
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:33,559
Thank you for having so much.

820
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,159
Speaker 1: Thank you