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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a special fire coverage, of course, covering the

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<v Speaker 2>fires that continue to burn in these very very windy

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<v Speaker 2>conditions throughout La County. We have three, although they keep

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<v Speaker 2>saying they want to shoehorn a fourth in there and

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<v Speaker 2>there's no need. Three big fires. The Palisades Fire burning

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<v Speaker 2>out Malibu between Malibu and Santa Monica through Pacific Palisades,

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<v Speaker 2>well over five thousand acres is an under estimate as

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<v Speaker 2>to how much ground has burned up. The county fire

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<v Speaker 2>chief did say that about a thousand structures were destroyed.

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<v Speaker 2>That number could also be low. A high number of

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<v Speaker 2>significant injuries that again the Palisades Fire. The Eton Fire

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<v Speaker 2>in the Altadina Pasadena area has now burned more than

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand acres according to the Angelus National Forest. We

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<v Speaker 2>do know there were two fatalities in that fire, but

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<v Speaker 2>at this point point unknown cause of the fatalities, also

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<v Speaker 2>a number of significant significant injuries and well over one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred structures destroyed there. The third one, burning in the

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<v Speaker 2>northernmost area of the San Fernando Valley. The Hurst Fire

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<v Speaker 2>up near Silmar is over five hundred acres burning in

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<v Speaker 2>an old burn scar from the old Saddle Ridge Fire

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<v Speaker 2>and has caused been cause for several evacuations as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We're keeping an eye on a fire station out of

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Monica where we expect to have President Biden and

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Newsom take part in a news conference in a

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<v Speaker 2>short time.

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<v Speaker 1>Biden was just a Cedar Sinai where Hunter's wife, the

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<v Speaker 1>one he married in twenty nineteen after just six days

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<v Speaker 1>of knowing her, is giving birth to their second child.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a planned c section there. He was in

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<v Speaker 1>town to do the two monuments right over in the

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<v Speaker 1>Inland Empire, and then they decided he would not be

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<v Speaker 1>doing that because of the fire. So he was hunkered

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<v Speaker 1>down somewhere overnight in La went to Cedars this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to the fire station now. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>neither here nor They're not important. No politics is important

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It was devastation and eating canyon overnight where

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<v Speaker 1>that brush fire that started last night round six six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty something like that. It exploded overnight because the winds

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<v Speaker 1>were so insane. We mentioned that ninety nine mile per

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<v Speaker 1>hour wind in Altadena clocked at about nine thirty last night.

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<v Speaker 3>That is just where you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Finding home after home after home just gone. And again

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<v Speaker 1>the fire crew saying we are spread too thin. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about the distances between the fires as well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great, great distances between the Palisades and Eaton Canyon

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<v Speaker 1>area as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it is telling that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times with.

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<v Speaker 1>These fires, you'll hear the firefighters say, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>get out, just get out of your neighborhoods, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to leave the hoses there so that we can use

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<v Speaker 1>them if we need to. You're not hearing that because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have enough crews to respond to every single

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<v Speaker 1>residential fire that's sprouting up. So you've got people manning

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<v Speaker 1>the hoses trying to water down the bushes and the

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<v Speaker 1>trees and the fences and everything around the homes because

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<v Speaker 1>of what you saw also in past in the Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>Palisades yesterday where the fire crews couldn't get to the

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<v Speaker 1>top of Palisades Drive because of all the traffic moving

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<v Speaker 1>down all four lanes from the mountain, and then saying

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<v Speaker 1>that if you're at the top, shelter in place, don't leave.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, people's eyeballs are important when we see the beginnings

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<v Speaker 2>of these things. And the very first indication that we

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<v Speaker 2>had of this fire yesterday in Palisades was listener Felix,

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<v Speaker 2>who called and left us a talk back.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, Garre at Salamonica. I'm facing north of Gloriafield Exit.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a giant fire. I don't know if we just

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<v Speaker 5>want to talk about that. It's yeah, these ways going

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<v Speaker 5>to be killed.

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<v Speaker 6>Take care.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that basically started what began twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 2>of wall to wall coverage up to this point. At

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<v Speaker 2>this point, Felix actually is joining us live now on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone to talk more. Felix, hey man, thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>having great eyeballs yesterday. Good when you saw this yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>you have any expectation that it was going to get

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<v Speaker 2>this bad?

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<v Speaker 6>I kind of did. Just the wind were so bad

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<v Speaker 6>and the flames were just so so strong already, even

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<v Speaker 6>if it's just on top of the ridge, you were

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<v Speaker 6>able to tell that it wasn't going to be an

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<v Speaker 6>easy battley to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could kind of hear it in your voice.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, these winds are not good. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a good situation. You know, we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had the same feeling yesterday when we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, talking to Henry to Carlo, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you hear all this hyperbole about you know, Arctic blasts

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<v Speaker 1>and atmospheric river and polar vortegs and Arctic outbreak and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like this hysteria. But when we are about

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<v Speaker 1>this wind event, with these crazy ass mountain wave winds.

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<v Speaker 3>You just kind of knew it was gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hit us very different.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the winzard are consistent, they're being they may not

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<v Speaker 6>be extremely strong, but they're they're there. I'm working, I

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<v Speaker 6>work on doors, so I'm just constantly feeling the wind.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 6>I delivered for the brown trunk.

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<v Speaker 4>The brown trucks got it. I know. I like those guys. Felix, again,

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<v Speaker 4>thanks for thanks for calling us when you saw that yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's important we get that information quickly, and you

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<v Speaker 2>were the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks you, and thanks for continuing to work through all

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<v Speaker 1>this mess.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you. I appreciate your all.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, as they say, brown never stops.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't like that. No, it's a brown storm.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wait, that's the cruise.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks Felix, We appreciate it you too.

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<v Speaker 2>We are in Santa Monica, the City of l a

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<v Speaker 2>fire chief is giving President Sandalus an update looking at

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<v Speaker 2>a map and aerial map of the Palisades fire warning.

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<v Speaker 7>Around ten thirty. We did pre deploy a number of resources.

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<v Speaker 7>We knew this was there was a potential for a

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<v Speaker 7>significant threat to our constituents due to the weather event

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<v Speaker 7>high high, high winds. I've never seen the winds in

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<v Speaker 7>my twenty five year career, so we leaned forward as

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<v Speaker 7>much as possible and pre deployed with that. We had

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<v Speaker 7>a significant amount of fire that occurred. We had an

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<v Speaker 7>aggressive fire attack. The fire has grown from originally ten

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<v Speaker 7>acres to ten thousand, eight hundred and two acres as

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<v Speaker 7>we speak. It's an active, active firefight with our firefighters

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<v Speaker 7>and they're doing their very best to protect our people

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<v Speaker 7>within this area.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting enough, because.

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<v Speaker 7>Of the winds and the low humidity, we had a

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<v Speaker 7>second fire also break out, and that was the Hurst Fire,

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<v Speaker 7>which is just north.

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<v Speaker 3>Of that area.

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<v Speaker 7>Again, this was close to eleven one thousand acres. This

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<v Speaker 7>is close to five hundred acres. That also broke out.

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<v Speaker 7>The information that I want to share with you is

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<v Speaker 7>also the significance of multiple fires in the area within

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<v Speaker 7>the city but also the county.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the second.

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<v Speaker 7>Fire that actually came out and we're actively engaged in

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<v Speaker 7>that firefight. The third fire then broke out this morning

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<v Speaker 7>at four o'clock in the morning, in which we have

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<v Speaker 7>an active firefight there as well. We're working with our

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<v Speaker 7>local jurisdictions, our state, regional, as well as federal, so

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<v Speaker 7>we're doing everything we can to protect life first and

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<v Speaker 7>property next. We'll go ahead and then pass this off

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<v Speaker 7>to Police Chief McDonald.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Thank you, Chief, Miss President.

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<v Speaker 8>It's an honor to be able to be here and

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<v Speaker 8>be part of this and represent the men and women

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<v Speaker 8>of LAPD and policing to support our partners in the

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<v Speaker 8>fire service. What we saw here in the last twenty

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<v Speaker 8>four hours is unprecedented. I've never seen anything like this.

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<v Speaker 8>Fire is driven by the type of winds that we

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<v Speaker 8>saw up to one hundred miles an hour. Our role

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<v Speaker 8>out there is strictly support to be there for evacuations,

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<v Speaker 8>to get people out of the affected area, to be

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<v Speaker 8>able to provide for traffic control and then crime suppression

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<v Speaker 8>as the fire is fought and some may come in

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<v Speaker 8>and try and take the opportunity to go into these

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<v Speaker 8>homes and steal from them. So we're going to be

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<v Speaker 8>on top of that. I just want to say the

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<v Speaker 8>relationship we enjoy here in my case under the leadership

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<v Speaker 8>of Mayor Bass, but all of our elected officials, is

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<v Speaker 8>unlike I think anywhere else in the country. We are

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<v Speaker 8>blessed to have the relationship between police and fire that

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<v Speaker 8>we do here. Unfortunately we do this kind of thing frequently,

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<v Speaker 8>never to this level, but I can't say enough about

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<v Speaker 8>how important that is. And as we go into the

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<v Speaker 8>next five years with the Super Bowl and the World

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<v Speaker 8>Cup and the Olympics coming up, it's critical that we

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<v Speaker 8>maintain those partnerships.

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<v Speaker 4>So thank you for this opportunity circuit.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh sorry, let me introduce my partner from the county

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<v Speaker 8>Fire Department, Chief Tony Maloney.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so thank you. I'm going to be giving you

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<v Speaker 9>an update on our Eaton fire, which is east of

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<v Speaker 9>cornst The county starts all the way up in Lancaster

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<v Speaker 9>and goes all the way down to the Long Beach border.

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<v Speaker 9>We go from the county line in Fadura all the

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<v Speaker 9>way out to Pomona four three hundred acres, so we

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<v Speaker 9>have a fire east of the Palisades Fire that began

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<v Speaker 9>last night. It's called the Eton Fire. It's currently ten thousand,

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<v Speaker 9>six hundred acres zero percent containment. We have over seven

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<v Speaker 9>hundred and fifty firefighters on the line. Unfortunately, two people

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<v Speaker 9>have lost their lives. Residents have lost their lives at

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<v Speaker 9>the Eaton fire. It's impacting tens of thousands of homes,

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<v Speaker 9>not only in the city of Pasadena, but also the

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<v Speaker 9>county area of Altadena, and we're doing our very best.

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<v Speaker 9>We just had our out of state resources arrived from

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<v Speaker 9>Arizona at the Eaton fire to assist us. Last night,

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<v Speaker 9>as the Region one coordinator, I contacted the Governor's Office

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<v Speaker 9>of Emergency Services. We requested two hundred and fifty additional

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<v Speaker 9>engines into La County with one thousand personnel. We also

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<v Speaker 9>are using our inner our compacts with other states like Arizona, Nevada, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 9>and Washington. Firefighters from those regions are on their way

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<v Speaker 9>down to Los Angeles County right now to assist us.

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<v Speaker 9>So thank you for your interest, thank you for your attention.

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<v Speaker 1>You get him a microphone? Why are people not good

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<v Speaker 1>at their jobs?

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<v Speaker 9>Ken?

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<v Speaker 2>We are listening to President Biden speaks well from a

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<v Speaker 2>mile away.

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<v Speaker 10>Apparently driving me.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's talked to the Department of Defense about this.

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<v Speaker 1>California National Guard, California National Guard. Good lord, why can't

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<v Speaker 1>they get the president a microphone? For the love for

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<v Speaker 1>more SOT? Okay, you know what, that's not gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>any better. He's not on Mike. He's not on Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got an update here. We'll monitor this. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna listen to bad audio. We've got an update from

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<v Speaker 1>the watch Duty app. By the way, the watch Duty

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<v Speaker 1>app has been key. There's been a lot to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this on Twitter and elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It is true. It is a great app.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nonprofit, and it's fantastic in terms of the updates.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a free app again watch Duty. It reports that

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<v Speaker 1>the Palisades fire now that radio traffic indicates the fire

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<v Speaker 3>Reversing direction there uh not.

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<v Speaker 2>They did see some of that kind of fire behavior yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was not well reported. They did, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>instances of it, but it wasn't. I mean, the benefit

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<v Speaker 2>that we have today, obviously is daylight. For one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>thing that the fire chief did mention was that Palisades

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<v Speaker 2>fires close to eleven thousand acres. Remember we were saying

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and two acres of the Palisades fire.

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<v Speaker 1>But by the time we're done with this, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the tens of thousands, if not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned this earlier. The acreage isn't what is most

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<v Speaker 2>important here. Most important here is a that we had

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<v Speaker 2>no fatalities. We did have a high number of significant injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>but that we've seen one thousand structures destroyed. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the That was the number that was given by the

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<v Speaker 2>county fire chief early this morning. A thousand structures destroyed.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just the Palisades fire. That doesn't count the

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<v Speaker 2>Eaten fire over an Altadena in Pasadena.

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<v Speaker 4>This is continued. Nobody has a microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody has a microphone in that in that fire station,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a dozen cameras they're watching that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's it's not a time, it's not about the what

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<v Speaker 1>day is it is? Wednesday eleven, nineteen and forty nine seconds?

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<v Speaker 2>There is a microphone on a boom that's about sixty

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that. I understand that we're going to get

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<v Speaker 4>I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're taking your calls one eight hundred five.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're offering everybody out, Ladies and gentlemen, out of

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<v Speaker 1>You're yelling one eight hundred and five to zero, one KFI.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a horrific morning, a lot of shock. A

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<v Speaker 1>of time, and then went back this morning and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. Eaton Canyon Pacific Palisades a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>us have, let us know. We'll talk about it together.

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<v Speaker 1>One eight hundred and five to zero, one KFI. The

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<v Speaker 1>big three, of course, being of the Palisades, which we've

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<v Speaker 1>been monitoring for more than twenty four hours now, Altadino

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<v Speaker 1>which exploded overnight sheer devastation there as well, and Sillmar

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<v Speaker 1>being the site of the latest big one. There have

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<v Speaker 1>been other smaller ones popping up all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>but these are the three big ones. The good news,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, if there is any for people whose homes

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<v Speaker 1>still stand, is that the water dropping aircraft have resumed flight.

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<v Speaker 1>The winds have died down, which will make it all

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<v Speaker 1>not for not the way it was yesterday and you

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<v Speaker 1>saw whatever aircraft were able to survive the winds and

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<v Speaker 1>fly through the winds, they were kind of deemed irrelevant

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<v Speaker 1>because they would drop the water and the water would

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<v Speaker 1>just fly sideways. It wouldn't land because the winds were

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<v Speaker 1>so erratic. You saw the flames blowing sideways. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this was the angriest fire I've ever seen, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was no match, no matter We've talked to firefighters and

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<v Speaker 1>fire agencies, no matter how ready they were, how experienced

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<v Speaker 1>they are. We have the best firefighting agencies in the

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<v Speaker 1>world in La County, and I can't get over how

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating it might be to be put up against a

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<v Speaker 2>You were under an actual mandatory evacuation order. I was

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<v Speaker 2>ready for one. I kept getting the alerts, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were apparently sending them to the wrong zone. But I

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<v Speaker 2>was ready to go. Dear, what was going on with you?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you were in an area that was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be you were nervous. I have a sense that

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I'm in Woodland Hills and I'm up in the hills,

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<v Speaker 11>and you know, Shannon's been mentioning ninety eight mile per

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<v Speaker 3>It was terrifying.

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<v Speaker 11>I literally, and I'm not exaggerating, did not get a

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<v Speaker 11>minute of sleep last night. My bags and my husband's bag,

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<v Speaker 11>dog stuff were all packed to go. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 11>was going to bring the dogs into work this morning.

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<v Speaker 11>But fortunately my daughter was able to come over for

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<v Speaker 3>But terrifying. And we're very close to the Panga Canyon, so.

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<v Speaker 11>There are areas and it's very confusing with the different zones,

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<v Speaker 11>but there are areas into Panga Canyon that have mandatory

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<v Speaker 11>evacuation orders. Were also very close to Calabasa. It's the same.

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<v Speaker 11>So I am just ready to get out.

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<v Speaker 1>Me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me say, I was confused last night when my

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<v Speaker 2>first when my first alarm went off at about twelve

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen this morning and it said that I was in

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<v Speaker 2>went on to their there's a couple different.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, watching all in evacuation zones. It's just whether

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<v Speaker 1>your zone has been alerted to it's turned off exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So Watch Duty is that app that you mentioned a

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes ago. That was great in terms of being

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<v Speaker 2>able to very clearly see which zone you might be

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<v Speaker 2>in or which zones are evacuation orders or warnings. The

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<v Speaker 2>other one is Genesis Protect, which is ge Na Genesis

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<v Speaker 2>Protect very similar in terms of the ability to zoom in,

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<v Speaker 2>find your location where you are, and then compare that

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<v Speaker 3>And those two do work in conjunction at times as well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My experience was my power was shut off just randomly

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<v Speaker 1>at six pm. I didn't know if it was be

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<v Speaker 1>peremptory preemptively shut off because I'm in a fire area.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right up against the foothills in the two ten

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<v Speaker 1>quarridor where they were worried about, or if it was

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<v Speaker 1>a power line down or whatever. And it was a

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<v Speaker 1>pot a popcorn machine in my backyard for lack of

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<v Speaker 1>a better term. Tables and chairs and plants just being

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<v Speaker 1>thrown all over the place. And like Debra said, I

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<v Speaker 1>was not going to be able to sleep, There's no way,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you didn't get any sleep because your first alert,

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<v Speaker 1>Gary went off at twelve fifteen. I knew I would

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<v Speaker 1>not be able to sleep through that winds because I

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<v Speaker 1>was worried that the trees in the backyard were come

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<v Speaker 1>slight just come be thrown into the windows.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we heard Aaron said her dining room windows got

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<v Speaker 3>That seemed like a very real possibility.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, my power was shut off at seven.

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<v Speaker 11>And also I heard you talking earlier how you weren't

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<v Speaker 11>able to listen to the station A same. I need

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<v Speaker 11>to get a transistor radio as well, because I had

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<v Speaker 11>my cell phone was everybody kept texting me to say

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<v Speaker 11>if I was okay, which was very sweet, but I

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<v Speaker 11>kept saying, don't text me anymore, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 11>to answer it because I was trying to save the power.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I had a battery ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>full phone battery. But it didn't matter because because I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get anything, I couldn't get online. I couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to Twitter, I couldn't get online, I coudn't get any

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<v Speaker 3>I had nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a terrible feeling, especially how connected we are now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like it's nineteen eighty five.

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<v Speaker 1>But in nineteen eighty five, we all had transistor radios

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<v Speaker 1>at the home. We all had radios, so it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. Now we're so connected with these phones. When

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<v Speaker 1>they stopped working, we're screwed. It's a bad place to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I couldn't wait to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>car so I had access to an actual radio. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we will stay on top of this. Let us know

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<v Speaker 1>your experience. One eight hundred and five to zero one

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<v Speaker 1>kfive eight hundred five two oh one five three four

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<v Speaker 1>will take your calls. See what happened in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the course of the last twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Special coverage of these fires burning throughout southern California one

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<v Speaker 2>thing to keep in mind. Former mayoral candidate Rick Ruiz

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be on with John coming up right

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<v Speaker 2>about one o'clock. Made some headlines yesterday when he went

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<v Speaker 2>why we were seeing such damage inflicted on Pacific Palisades

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<v Speaker 2>was crews were hooking up the fire hydrants and not

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<v Speaker 2>getting any water pressure.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll we'll hear.

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<v Speaker 2>From him again see if he can give flesh out

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<v Speaker 2>some of the details about that.

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<v Speaker 1>The bottom line right now is we've got more than

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand homes gone devastated. We've got two people who

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<v Speaker 1>have died in Alta Dina. We don't know the specifics

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<v Speaker 1>of that. We know that people had a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>escaping in both Alta Dina and in the Palisades because

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<v Speaker 1>the flames were moving so quickly, so ferociously, covering two

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<v Speaker 1>to three football fields in one minute.

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<v Speaker 3>At times.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard that Dukes was kind of a mass casualty situation,

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<v Speaker 1>with burned people coming down from the hills seeking refuge there.

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<v Speaker 3>These fires are out of control at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>The good news, if any, is that the winds were

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<v Speaker 1>the most dangerous last night between ten PM and five

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<v Speaker 1>am least definitely for that two to ten area there

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<v Speaker 1>in Altadina, where the evacuations are vast.

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<v Speaker 2>The fear was that when the sun came up, the

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<v Speaker 2>winds would pick up. They have not, thankfully, and it

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<v Speaker 2>appears that the peaks that we saw between say, ten

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock last night and five o'clock this morning are gone

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<v Speaker 2>for good. We will not see those wind gusts repeated.

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<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't mean that it's that we're out of

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<v Speaker 2>the danger yet. The other thing is that when we

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<v Speaker 2>saw the sun come up, we knew where we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to see some pretty devastating pictures and those have

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<v Speaker 2>come to four. I mean the images that are coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of Pacific palisades, of entire sections of sunset gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Andrew Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Friedman is a senior climate reporter for Axios. He

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<v Speaker 1>specializes in extreme weather climate science.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew, thanks for joining.

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<v Speaker 10>Us, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is, as we've.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, been covering fires for decades, unprecedented to everyone who's

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<v Speaker 3>Does nothing ever like this when it comes to this

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, this is the worst wind event in the Los

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<v Speaker 10>Angeles County region since twenty eleven. What you haven't had before, however,

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<v Speaker 10>is a wind event that is this powerful coinciding with

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<v Speaker 10>this level of dryness. So usually when you have this

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<v Speaker 10>wind event later in the season, so in November through January,

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<v Speaker 10>that's not only your wet season, you expect it to

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<v Speaker 10>be raining in southern California. However, that has not happened.

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<v Speaker 10>The raining season has just extended the dry season right now.

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<v Speaker 10>So we had that extreme wind event coinciding with this

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<v Speaker 10>extreme dryness after a summer that was unusually hot. It's

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<v Speaker 10>just been this disastrous ingredients that we could see coming

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<v Speaker 10>that forecasters we're using very strong language from the National

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<v Speaker 10>Weather Service, from TV broadcasters, from radio broadcasters. Everybody's trying

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<v Speaker 10>to get the word out. But there's a limited amount

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<v Speaker 10>of number of things that you can do before these players,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, start in terms of preparing to evacuate, obviously,

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<v Speaker 10>but now this is just this is just really everybody's

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<v Speaker 10>fears come true.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a lee that is definitely a

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<v Speaker 2>lesson that people are going to learn from this in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of in terms of preparation.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is ironic.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm assuming you're you're calling us from the

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<v Speaker 2>from the east coast where it's you know, twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>degrees below what it would normally be this time of year.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we we've got into the tavama on the ground

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<v Speaker 10>here in d C. So you know, I wish I

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<v Speaker 10>could carry some of that over there and help you out.

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<v Speaker 10>But I think that what people need to realize is,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, when people talk about extreme weather and climate

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<v Speaker 10>change and California fires, I think there's been a tendency

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<v Speaker 10>to think about northern California and to think about, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>the massive forest fires that we've seen in recent years.

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<v Speaker 10>But these firestorms that can take place in the wildland

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<v Speaker 10>urban interface, where they start at the edges of these

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<v Speaker 10>forests in these hills and come roaring into populated communities

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<v Speaker 10>is also part of what we're seeing with climate change

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<v Speaker 10>in terms of making these events more likely, making hydro

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<v Speaker 10>climate extremes more frequent, more severe, and more likely, as

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<v Speaker 10>you see saw between two wet conditions too dry conditions.

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<v Speaker 10>But this wind event, truly, truly is has been horrific,

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<v Speaker 10>with winds upwards of one hundred miles an hour in

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<v Speaker 10>some locations, and that obviously affects the firefighting efforts. We had,

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<v Speaker 10>you had aircraft up last night, but they were grounded

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<v Speaker 10>for most of today because of because of the winds.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew, thank you so much, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you, good luck and everybody out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking, Thank you Andrew Friedman. When we come back, more

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<v Speaker 2>of your calls. What's going on where you are? What

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<v Speaker 2>was your night?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>One eight hundred and five to zero one five three four.

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<v Speaker 1>Kings game against the Flames at Crypto tonight has been

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<v Speaker 1>postponed because of the fires. We don't have a new

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<v Speaker 1>date as well. The Palisades fire has expanded, as you

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<v Speaker 1>were mentioning, as you were predicting, to more eight hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Acres according to cal Fire at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, this is one of those suggestions from a

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<v Speaker 4>talkback here. I'll play for you in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't spend a whole lot of time on I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is an immediate threat still to the areas around

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific Palisades, Malibu, Santa Monica and of course Altadena, Pasadena

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<v Speaker 2>and then Silmar. But this is a you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can have twelve million people and the Greater Southern fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>million people in the greater Southern California area and this

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<v Speaker 2>affects a few hundred thousand. Most of us are going

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<v Speaker 2>to see some of the smoke or have an idea

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<v Speaker 2>of what's going on, or maybe we know somebody who's

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<v Speaker 2>been affected by this. But this will have impacts nationwide,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is something that we don't think about all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 12>Hey, Gary and Shannon, my heart goes out to all

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<v Speaker 12>those people affected by the fires in California. I don't

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<v Speaker 12>think we think about how much commerce is being effected.

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<v Speaker 12>But our freight here in Tucson was about two hours late,

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<v Speaker 12>and I don't think we'll be sending much out going

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<v Speaker 12>that way. So with probably something unrelated, we're having wins

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<v Speaker 12>here at least twenty two miles an hour, and that's

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<v Speaker 12>run and steady, and our air quality and parts of

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<v Speaker 12>the city are considered to be highly unhealthy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the big things that we noticed yesterday, that

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<v Speaker 2>I heard Conway mention quite a bit, was the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of dust, the amount of particulate that was in the air,

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<v Speaker 2>not smoke, but just stuff that was brought in as

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<v Speaker 2>the winds came across the desert and up and over

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<v Speaker 2>the hills.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've covered fires for twenty plus years living

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<v Speaker 1>in California as reporters and working in news. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I even right now, I'm under a mandatory evacuation order

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<v Speaker 1>started last night, remains in place, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful to hear from family and friends texting and calling

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<v Speaker 1>wondering how you're doing. And I say the refrain, and

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<v Speaker 1>I you're so even though you're covering fires, you're still

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<v Speaker 1>distance from them. Even if you're out there on the

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<v Speaker 1>front lines with the command post or whatever, you're still distanced.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still telling someone else's story. And even under a

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<v Speaker 1>mandatory evacuation order, and I'm telling people checking up on me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, it's just stuff. It's just stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, as long as people are safe in my neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, it's it's just stuff. But then I get

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<v Speaker 1>pictures from friends and Altadena, one picture in particular from

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<v Speaker 1>a friend in Altadena whose house has been reduced to ashes,

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly that whole it's just stuff line kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sounds so trite.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so vapid.

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<v Speaker 2>Gigi Grossiette with Fox eleven has been in Pacific Palisades

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<v Speaker 2>and has been stationed out in front of what used

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<v Speaker 2>to be a mobile home park and it is. There

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<v Speaker 2>is not a structure standing in that entire area, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's that level of devastation. It adds a different feel

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<v Speaker 2>to it. I mean, obviously, if it's your even if

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<v Speaker 2>it was just your home, one home that was burned

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<v Speaker 2>and it was your home, that's obviously devastating to you

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<v Speaker 2>and your family.

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<v Speaker 4>But the idea then that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are have that same I mean that there are that

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<v Speaker 2>many families that are all feeling that same impact at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time. It is it's almost overwhelming to think

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<v Speaker 2>about the idea that I mean, Pacific Palisades is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to look the same when this smoke clears, when

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<v Speaker 2>this fire is tamped down, when they are able to

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<v Speaker 2>get in there and get a true look at the

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<v Speaker 2>be the station the same, because you almost can't, you

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<v Speaker 2>cannot have that same, I mean the same vibe. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that we talked about that with with Sue Cole,

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<v Speaker 2>the Pacific Palisades Community Council President, about what that place

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<v Speaker 2>means to those people who live and have lived in

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades for you know, in some cases decades, and the

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<v Speaker 2>she described it as kind of a Midwest feel despite

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that you're on a bluff overlooking the Pacific Ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>Now where the dust is settled in some place this

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<v Speaker 1>is in the devastation has become clearer. It has not

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<v Speaker 1>settled in many areas. We're looking at live shots right

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<v Speaker 1>now from the Eton fire there Pasadena, Altadena area, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are businesses on fire, homes on fire. You have

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<v Speaker 1>yet to get your hands around any sort of understanding

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<v Speaker 1>around the level of devastation there. Again, this is far

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<v Speaker 1>from over. These two fires remain out of control, The

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<v Speaker 1>Palisades Fire making its way as we speak to Old Tapanga.

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<v Speaker 1>The winds remain a factor today, although not as devastating

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<v Speaker 1>as we saw overnight, remain extremely.

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<v Speaker 3>Difficult to battle with.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are a firefighter, and you got to believe

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<v Speaker 1>these guys gals are tired. They have all hands on deck,

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<v Speaker 1>they called in all off duty firefighters.

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<v Speaker 3>They still don't have enough people.

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<v Speaker 1>There are crews coming down from Oregon, in Washington, northern California.

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<v Speaker 3>Still maybe not enough people.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we've said, you take the two biggest fires here

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<v Speaker 1>and they rival when you talk about destruction and loss

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<v Speaker 1>and just the ferocity of these things, they rival the

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<v Speaker 1>worst wildfires in La County history.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also I mentioned this very early this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>It's reminiscent to me of the at least the Palisades

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<v Speaker 2>fire by itself was reminiscent of the Oakland Hills fire

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<v Speaker 2>from back in nineteen ninety one. In that there were

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't huge acreage, but the houses were so close together.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was about sixteen hundred acres in that

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<v Speaker 2>Oakland Hills fire. They called it the Tunnel fire near

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<v Speaker 2>the Caldecott Tunnel. Fifteen sixteen hundred acres burned, but almost

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<v Speaker 2>three thousand single family homes.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminds me of the Cedar fire more recently in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three in San Diego. I remember covering

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<v Speaker 1>that from Sacramento and just how quickly that thing moved,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was driven by those Santa Ana fires moving

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<v Speaker 1>at you know, thirty six hundred acres an hour or

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<v Speaker 1>something crazy like that. It was just it moved too

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<v Speaker 1>fast to contain, I mean, let alone contain, and move

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<v Speaker 1>too fast to get away from it.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're seeing that in both these places.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the resources not just for people who are

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<v Speaker 2>affected by the fires directly, but others who want to

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<v Speaker 2>help out was mentioned by Lindsay Horvath from La County's

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<v Speaker 2>third Supervisor, District Emergency dot La County dot gov. It's

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<v Speaker 2>emergency information specifically about evacuation maps areas large animals, small

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<v Speaker 2>animal evacuation centers, evacuation for human centers, but also places

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<v Speaker 2>that if you have resources and you can volunteer, you

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<v Speaker 2>have the time. This is going to take months, if

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<v Speaker 2>not a couple of years, to get anything close to

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<v Speaker 2>a semblance of normalcy. Emergency dot La County dot gov.

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<v Speaker 4>You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 2>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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