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Speaker 1: It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and carn

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S e O and JP Sorrow.

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Speaker 2: He's a lapsed fan and all my years and wrestling.

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Speaker 3: I never seen anything.

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Speaker 2: And it's the laps fan name by the one in

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the ring. Forget about Slado.

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Speaker 3: He the real king of swing.

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Speaker 4: When the bell.

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Speaker 2: Goes in and the kick like me throwing in the corner.

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But it's lash like stick.

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Speaker 4: Even Jerry King can sake off the crowd nodded in.

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Speaker 5: His head like it.

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Speaker 4: Steve low Brown, would you get low down?

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Speaker 3: Go even high up? Flipp you on your head?

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Speaker 6: But you know cool driver, you speak more now and

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dragon spits fire give you more shock than when head

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treats higher drop a more truth than the con of

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sniper unless you would a coconut.

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Speaker 3: Roddy Piper, Jack a JP.

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Speaker 6: He like j Y d drop the cupcakes and gold

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the brain Bob means the best podcast Frost start the

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close cloud if you all be It's a classic.

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Speaker 7: And posed So it's on once again to World Championship

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Wrestling for Sid Vicious Boss.

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Speaker 3: That's just fucking nuts.

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Speaker 7: I mean when you think after stabbing someone nearly to death,

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that would kind of be a closed door.

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Speaker 3: Well, especially since he's you know, still isn't is it

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our interstone still in the company.

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Speaker 7: Huh yeah, right, Like, how does that happen? Well, not

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only are we going to chart how it happened, we're

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going to chart how the deal was papered.

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Speaker 8: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 7: Told you last time in our TLF tribute to Sid

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that we got our hot little hands on a copy

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of Sid's WCW contract that brought him back to the

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organization in the spring of nineteen ninety nine. And you're

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goddamn right that we're going to treat it lap style.

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Put it on the table boss for deep examination. It's

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back to the courtroom. It's back to the docket. What

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do you say, Hey, listen, you know it's we all ever.

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Everyone needs a new trial. Okay, we're gonna get back

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to the courtroom. We got to fucking get contracts. We

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need to We need to understand, all right, what is

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what is Sid entitled to?

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Speaker 3: Right? Okay? What is he obligated to?

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Speaker 7: Finally we get the answer. After all these years and

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ten years of jokes on TLF about Sid not being

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obligated to make his appearances, we get the actual black

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and white on what he's obliging to do.

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Speaker 3: Obligations, what are they? What does he have to do?

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What is he not obligated to do? What is the reality?

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Speaker 7: Whatever? This part is Sid Tribute Part seven, Obligations Here

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it is. And not only is he welcomed back after

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doing what he did, he's welcomed back to the richest

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contract he'd ever seen in his life.

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Speaker 3: That's insane.

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Speaker 7: And you heard him in the clipping plate of the

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inclusion of last episode talking about how this was. You know,

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he's sitting across the table from Eric Bischoff, who stylishly

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flew his own plane to meet him, and they're sitting

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there at the cracker barrel and Sid assumed that the

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number Eric put out there was for a cumulative three

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year deal, not annually at one point five million or

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whatever number. Sid said, Well, the reason I didn't bother

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to commit that to memories because we've got the black

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and white in front of us, and suffice to say,

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it's not exactly one point five million year, but you know,

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it's something or other. There's always ways to slice and

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dice it. We'll get to that. But you know, what

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did Sid come to be worth after all these years

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and all these stints and all these flash points that

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we've covered over the weeks here in tribute to Sid,

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who of course we lost this year at an untimely age,

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and who was such a cornerstone part of the Golden

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Hasbro era that put us all on the track to

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not only create this podcast, but you know, probably for

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you to listen to it being such a cornerstone at

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that time period. What did it amount to? Because Sid

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always talked about this contract is the one that really

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set him up, not so much for life, although considering,

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you know, everyone said he lived in fairly modest means

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in Arkansas, it probably did set him up for life. Really,

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there's a lot of money that he could put away.

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Speaker 3: He lived body like a was he like a like

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a cee him punk type, just fucking not spending any

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money at all, you know.

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Speaker 7: As far as yeah, I mean everyone would say that

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knew him personally, that he always drove very humble vehicles,

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that he just kind of you know, he didn't have

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a big, flashy, fancy house. He didn't have a mansion.

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the farm. Or as his wife told Jim Cornett, as

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we talked about last time, maybe going back to selling

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farm chemicals. Maybe that'd be better for Sid. You know,

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sometimes Sid things he just needs to go back there.

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Just this is a guy who always, whether it be softball,

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that whatever, had.

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Speaker 3: His right here. I thought, fucking you know, Jesse Ventura

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was the guy who who kept going back.

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Speaker 8: Going back.

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Speaker 7: But for some you know, that's the silver lining of

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not living beyond your means is you can just fucking

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parachute out of a job when it pisses you off. Right, Sure,

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sure you don't end up buying so much and getting

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so mortgage that you have to stick around in a

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high paying job. And once they sniff that out of you,

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they're going to exploit you to the hilt. And here's

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Sid is in a position where Jesus Christ, he doesn't

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even have to show up to work to get paid.

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And this is the master of coming up with injuries

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to find a way out.

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Speaker 3: You know, Oh, he is the master.

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Speaker 7: And now can you imagine you're going to guaranteed check

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in the mail even if he comes up with another injury.

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Not to say the man didn't get legitimately hurt throughout

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the course of his career because he did. He was

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a big man and he took relatively big bumps for

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his size and we all know how it ended, which

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if we do, but it's going to be so great

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to dig in. I mean, WW contracts are always such

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a gold mine, from the Hogan contract at the Bachelor

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of the Beach two thousand episode, not just WCW contracts.

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We talked about the Warriors ninety two contract when we

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did that Saturday nights. Oh yeah, oh absolutely, it's all

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in here, fucking crazy, and we're going to get to

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what the terms of engagement were for Sid's final signature

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and most lucrative run, as he not only came back

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to WW, but captured their world title for the first time.

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And in fact, Boss had a tribute VHS made for him.

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It's called the Millennium Man, and we're going to get

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into it. In fact, we're going to die of the

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Son of a Bitch.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 7: There's a bit of a story, and correct me if

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I'm wrong. It's holiday tied. As far as getting our

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hands on that VHS, it is.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely that that was a gift from UH, from our

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good friend over at Mabel Toys.

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Speaker 7: So if you don't know the WW Superstar series. This

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is post. Well you know that there's before they redid

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the logo and here you're okay if you don't, yeah, exactly,

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I don't blame you. That's why I feel compelled to

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point this out. There's the pre redoing a logo and

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post that's wway everything that was done after the logo

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was redone. This complete shit and speaks to why the

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company spiraled down Hail so quickly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's just an awful I mean, it's it's

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a grotesque video in the only the only interesting thing

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is the quote unquote un you know, never before seen footage.

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Speaker 7: Which makes you think that you're in for some cool

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like match footage after they went off the air, But

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that's not what it is.

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Speaker 3: Or like matches that they didn't ever show before. And

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it's like, you know, I should know better by now.

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Like whenever they say shit like that, it's never that.

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It's always like they need to like honestly, and I

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don't think this would have been a bad thing to

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market it as, but you just say, instead of never

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before seen footage, why don't you just say brand new interviews,

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never before seen?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, heart to heart interview that says it, because that's

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Speaker 3: Like, it's just interview footage, does nothing new, It's all

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it makes it seem like and again to me, yes,

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obviously never before seeing footage is gonna sell more tickets

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and more sell more video cassettes. But even saying brand

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never before seen is also gonna be I think it's gonna,

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you know, sell videotapes.

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Speaker 7: You could say like Sid's most candid interview to date

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or something.

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Speaker 3: Right, something like that. But like when you say never

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before seen footage, it even got me excited for a

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split second. I'm like, oh, I wonder what they fucking

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have here, and then oh, yeah, of course it's shit,

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is what it is.

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Speaker 7: Because the Superstars series tapes, for those who remember, and

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the Wayne when they came out with these. It was

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kind of like a half step towards like a shoot

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tape in that right, they wouldn't ask the guy's exclusively

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k FAB questions on these releases, so you would get

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a little bit of like honest answers. I mean, they

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wouldn't shatter k fame or anything. They would they would

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talk about the characters in the angles. But a lot

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of the things Sid says in those interstitials, you know,

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are things he would actually say even if he wasn't working.

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I think about his position in the company, teaming with

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the likes of Randy Savage, which he was linked with

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in the very beginning, Rick Stein or and others, and.

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Speaker 3: It's just no fucking clue about it. I mean, I

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will say, for me, it was never before seen. I

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had no fucking clue there was all this shit that

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was going on with him.

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Speaker 7: I was gonna say, yeah, what's your sense?

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Speaker 3: Were you?

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Speaker 7: Because I get a story? But were you aware that

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Sid even came back in ninety nine?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I did know that Sid was back. I knew that

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he I knew that he uh he was I remember

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him facing off with Goldberg, not even facing off, but

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I knew that he was feuding with Goldberg. I knew,

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and I knew about the Ben Wahth thing in January

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of two thousand. Yeah, that's it. I didn't really know.

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I wasn't following on a regular base. I had no

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fucking idea.

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Speaker 7: Those are the newsworthy things that happened, So it makes

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sense that those are the things that would sort of

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bubble up. But there was so much that happened in

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WCW that like everyone forgot about everyone memory hold because

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it was so hard to watch and it was such

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a terrible time for WCW, you know, because Sid was

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always a draw. It's not like everywhere he goes immediately

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begins to go downhill and then spikes as soon.

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Speaker 3: As he leaves. I gotta say, I gotta say one

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thing though with this video, that they did a really

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good job. They did a really good job making him

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look like a fucking ruthless killer.

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Now I am curious how that, you know, as someone

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who actually watched the stuff and who actually probably you

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remember the stuff, I imagine that when it's so so

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like uh streamlined, and it's so like razor focused, that

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it does come off great. But I imagine it didn't

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come off great when you were watching week to week.

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Speaker 7: Right when you put side to side, you know it's

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pay per view main events. You got to think like

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you had to wait a month to get to these

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these high points, and the TV in between was just

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not just not good. I mean, it's it kind of

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funny because I mean again, he looked he came across

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like a fucking monster.

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Speaker 3: Well he did.

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Speaker 7: It is in fact, I would say some of the

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more effective booking he's enjoyed in his career, at least

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in the national spotlight that they knew they had a

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conviction that a Sid Goldberg match would be money because

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that was one opponent that Goldberg hadn't taken on, that

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you could credibly put up against, that had some star

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power where people are like, you know what, like this

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could be fun, Like just on paper, thinking of Goldberg

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versus Sid is fun. And the reason that's fun is

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the reason Sid is so fondly remembered because he just

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had that that that essence, that aura, that impression on

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anybody who saw him anywhere near his prime.

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Speaker 3: So you know, they had it's a great match to

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It's a great match to book, a great match to sell.

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Speaker 7: Did you watch the Goldberg match at aliwen hav It?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 7: No, Because that's the dis name of this tape is

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it builds up the Goldberg match so much. But they

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put it out before the Goldberg match happened.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a very it's so it's a really

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amazing I didn't really gather until until I just started,

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you know, towards the end, I sorted looking up, mainly

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because all right, i'll because it didn't pan out, so

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I don't mind talking about this. So he talked about

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in one of the promos on the video, SID talks

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about being it's a cuts a promo on Ben Wah

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and Ben Wall was part of the revolution whatever faction

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that was, and so I was thinking, holy shit, this

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is it, this is gonna be it. This is where

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you get the revolutionary from. He's gonna say something here

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and say that he's revolutionary. You're fuck you with your

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revolution I'm revolutionary.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And so I went looking for the actual fucking episode,

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which I thought was an I don't even I went.

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I spent way too much time trying to find that

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fucking promo, thinking that was gonna be the answer. And

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it wasn't, obviously, because you know, you don't get that

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kind of satisfaction. That's when it comes to nineteen ninety nine,

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two thousand, twousand and one. Ww. Nor should you get

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that you don't get any satisfaction. No, you don't, you

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don't at all. I know, and so but I you know,

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I spent and that's when I realized. I'm like, Okay,

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when did they I said, this is for the US title?

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When did this happen? Obviously it's not sold out. I

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know that when did this happen? And then it's like

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it happened in September, like how long? And I'm realizing

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that the whole fucking tape comprises ten weeks of time.

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Speaker 7: It's like nothing.

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Speaker 3: It's like, it's wild how much.

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Speaker 7: It curiously captures the essence of this WW run for

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Sid because he the most impactful stuff he did was

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pretty much front loaded. But it's just like totally it's

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a totally arbitrary sampling, Like there could be no reason

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you'd put a tape out with it unless there was

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like a deadline, you had a box to check, right,

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It's not a fully formed story yet, not even closed,

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especially when they built up the Goldberg streak and then

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don't give you.

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Speaker 3: The match and then the don't even fucking do it,

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Like I mean, obviously, I imagine this thing fucking came out

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before the year end, you know, and so that's why

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they fucking rushed to get it out.

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Speaker 7: Now, did you know you were aware that Goldberg faced

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Sid in WCW. Beck then in nineteen ninety nine, were

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you were aware that they manufactured a fake streak for

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Sid to run? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I did not know that, thoughts. That was brand new.

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I actually with Sid playing a complete maniacal asshole heel,

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I thought it was great. Yes, I thought it was great.

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I love this idea. Like, and to me correct me

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if I'm wrong, it didn't seem like it always had

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to do with a victory in the ring. It seemed

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like if he just fucking killed somebody, he counted that

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as a win.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because they only had so much time to get

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to help and havoc.

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Speaker 3: That is awesome. Like, actually, I think that is a

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brilliant idea for somebody to like, you know, to claim

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themselves to be on the level of Goldberg and then

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you just say, you know what, I power bomb this

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asshole on some fucking popcorn.

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Speaker 7: That's a win, yeah, Laparca. Yeah, Yeah, Well that's funny

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you say that, because I was wondering where you'd come

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down on it at the time. I kind of remember

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it being received as like lazy booking, like more than anything,

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they were sort of you know, putting the carp for

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the horse. They wanted to get to a number so

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that SID could have matched Goldberg Streak, which in its

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own right was fictitious by the end anyway, right, And

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they had Mike Tiney on air who came up with

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the whole idea of the Goldberg streak kind of vouching

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for this SID number and updating us on the SID number.

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And even they still couldn't credibly get SID to that

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win count, even counting every house show they did. So

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they had to, like you say, come up with these

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scenarios where he would lay out six people on a

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nitro and that would be considered six wins, even though

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those weren't matches. Those are just run ins. Those are

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just beatdowns.

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Speaker 3: I think, think if it's done, you know, the thing is,

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it's got to be done. I don't know how it

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was done on on television week two week, but you know,

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it came across as being like he's being obnoxed, which

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is funny. Yeah, exactly, like like like he's like exactly

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like he's just like he's a mix of obnoxious psychotic

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and and just doesn't give a shit that you know,

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if I kick you in the balls, that's a win

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for me.

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Speaker 7: Right that is, that's pretty funny to walk around kicking

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people in the balls and then adding one to the score.

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Speaker 3: Because I kicked you in the balls before you kick

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me in the ball, so I win.

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Speaker 7: I mean, by the way, that'll be roun two years,

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they'll pretend to get it from us, but there'll be

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some gimmick where guy walks around and kicks people in the nuts.

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Speaker 3: Are two years when they're on Netflix will be fucking

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on there.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I suppose if you spin it that way.

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At the time, it was kind of just like, let's

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run the score up and just, you know, whatever we

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have to do, even if we have to make complete

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illogical sense. But if you put because Sid didn't really

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play it up like he was delusional. He played it

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up like he believed that he was getting these wins

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and that it was like rightful. But I guess, yeah,

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point that that's perfectly fine because it's Sid, And that's

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been the whole theme through this whole thing. It's like Sid,

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Sid can call himself the master and the ruler of

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the world, and people don't laugh at him because you

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kind of believe that, Like, even if he thinks it's bullshit,

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go ahead say something.

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Speaker 3: You know you're right exactly.

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Speaker 7: And if you think it's winning streak is bullshit, come

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and do something about it. And no one does anything

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about it. So he just keeps adding to the tally

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because he's nuts. And yeah, he believes those are actual wins.

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But that actually works for the Sid character instead of

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it being some guy that totally loses his face because

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he actually believes in the streak that you know, contains

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very few official victories.

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Speaker 3: I I just I actually I thought it was. I

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mean again, this is just on the on the VHS tape.

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I don't know how it played, and you're saying it

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didn't play as well. I think I think it just

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it would have looked. So I think it just sounds

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fucking hilarious and kind of badass in a Sid way,

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you know, kind of. Again, I don't think there are

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many people. The only other person you could do that

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is like with a Jericho doing it for absolute comedy,

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right and and but if you do it for for Sid,

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it's like it's kind of you know, it almost makes

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it become a little scary in a way. Yeah, because

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you've got someone who's not willing to to abide by

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the rules, abide by the uh the uh uh, well,

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the conventions of the convention, exact conventions is what I'm

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looking for, the conventions of what a win loss streak

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looks like. And he's just like, no, I'm just gonna

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fucking do what I want. And I mean that also

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plays into lap SID in many ways.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, we'll probably also deride it done think

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about it, because Sid was plugged squarely into the Kevin

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Nash roll of like let's let's lay out as many

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Luca doors and Cruiser weights as we can every week.

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Speaker 3: Even though that that also laughed, and that made me

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laugh so hard. I'm like, look who they're fucking giving

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to him, as as as food, they're giving him all

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these all these luchadors and all these fucking tiny ass motherfuckers,

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Like who who are who now?

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Speaker 9: Have?

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Speaker 3: After after working so hard to get you know, over years,

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maybe getting two steps ahead, now they've been thrown seven

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steps back?

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Speaker 7: And who has the book?

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Speaker 8: Whatever?

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Speaker 3: Man? Fucking exactly, I.

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Speaker 7: Don't know why I'm the mark just because I don't.

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Speaker 3: Think you're gonna have them fucking feet on, you know,

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big fucking guys. So you gotta build that. You know,

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you can't have them throw around big guys otherwise it

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defeats the whole fucking purpose.

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Speaker 7: And look, before you come after me on this front,

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let's not forget I lost clean one, two three in

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the middle of Nitro to Raymisterio and Bark the fucking win.

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Speaker 3: What do you want? You know, Yeah, I'm just saying, look,

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you know, sometimes you got to feed the guy, the

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big guy, the little guys. You know, you got the

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big shark eating the little fish. It's fucking nature, It's Darwin.

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Speaker 7: And that right there is a big part of why

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nineteen ninety nine was so abored of two is Nash

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out the book and it was just it's just not

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gonna work. It's just just he just creatively just basically

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bankrupt in terms of coming up with anything that could

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move the rating or or create a star, you know,

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get you excited about someone new. Impossible. He just couldn't

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do it. And and so ninety nine is and we

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have to countenance the long drawn out process of coming

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to that realization. There's that weird kind of interregnant period

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in the Spring where Bischoff is sort of back as president,

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the white haired Bischoff we see for the first time,

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and he's sailing about trying any number of tricks and gimmicks,

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from kiss to master Pe and the No Limit Soldiers

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to giving away a million dollars on Nitro to the

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whole redesign to He's did like a weird shoot angle

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he did at the Spring Stampede ninety nine with Hogan

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and a knee injury, and so you know, it's just

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not there was nothing there. Everything he tried, all his

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instincts were no longer. I'm gonna going to resonate. And

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Nash gets the book, you know, earlier in ninety nine

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before even Bischoff comes back and just can't you know,

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book his way out of a paper bag, just you know,

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abortive returns. Terrible television. He did the infamous three hour

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Nitro with the first hour was no wrestling whatsoever. It

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was just a series of skits, including the debut with

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Tory Wilson and several black and white vignettes. I don't

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see the problem, I do, I do for sure. It

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was like sounds like good entertainment to me. But hey,

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he's a guy that won't hesitate to ring up sid.

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You know, they had a long history together going all

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the way back to the first WCW run not not

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not to mention headlining in your house is in ninety

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five against each other and all of that. So yees,

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if Nash has got the book and he's going to

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find somebody that he perceives as a money headliner, he's

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he's probably gonna go for a sid for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, talked about it makes sense on.

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Speaker 7: The episode where we talked about Sid's ninety five WW front.

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I mean, nash Is said in his podcast that you know,

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Vin said, all right, we'll bring him back, but he's

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your problem, like if it doesn't work out his Nash

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wanted him in to work against him as champion and

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also for the Sean Michael's bodyguard thing. But so here

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comes full circle back again and sid Is is back

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in the sauce. Hopefully not on the sauce because then

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someone else stabbed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's.

475
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Speaker 7: Going to be an interesting ride. Nonetheless, this is of

476
00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:09,880
course a Randy Savage who was just he's completely out

477
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,680
of his mind and he is at least eighty pounds

478
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,039
heavier than he has any right to be.

479
00:21:14,519 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 3: Oh, he just he is. He is grotesque. He is unacceptable,

480
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,279
and he is offensive.

481
00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:24,759
Speaker 7: Did you see Randy back then in this when he

482
00:21:24,759 --> 00:21:25,960
had gorgeous George and all that?

483
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,519
Speaker 3: Vaguely I remember, I don't know it was this before

484
00:21:29,599 --> 00:21:32,000
or after he had the red sequin outfit.

485
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, that came at the end of this. Yeah, he

486
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,079
first came back.

487
00:21:36,279 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 3: A little bit of that, and I was like, what,

488
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,799
I don't know, and I stopped watching, right, you know,

489
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,720
I like, I was like, wait a minute, No, that's

490
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,200
not okay.

491
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 7: I don't know what he was thinking.

492
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,839
Speaker 3: And and also, you know what, what I found it

493
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,000
be kind of, you know, uncomfortable too, is that he's

494
00:21:54,039 --> 00:22:00,640
he's not completely doing his Randy Savage voice. Oh, it's

495
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,680
like he's kind of talking a little normal in addition

496
00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:06,759
to putting on I know, part of the Raindy Savage

497
00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:10,640
voice is legit, but there's also like obviously a part

498
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,000
that's put on where it gets you know. But he

499
00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:16,160
was kind of talking with more of his real voice

500
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,440
in like those prom and I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

501
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,599
it's very it's not it's not okay.

502
00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:27,039
Speaker 7: It's not okay, ready, Sava. He knows who he needs

503
00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:29,799
to be to be Randy Savage, right, but he went

504
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,240
to this whole like other direction with like dressing up

505
00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:33,200
like he's going clubbing.

506
00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 3: And I don't know what was that all about, Like,

507
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,359
I mean, was it just a was it a midlife

508
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,519
crisis or was there.

509
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 7: Some pretty much? Okay, I think i'd say what I'm

510
00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:43,200
out to. Yeah, he knew he wanted to come back

511
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,680
with an edge. He wanted to come back as more

512
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,319
of a attitude character.

513
00:22:46,759 --> 00:22:48,519
Speaker 3: And you know he was always an attitude character.

514
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,759
Speaker 7: I know, Well, yeah, I agree, but now he want

515
00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:53,960
you know, he got in gorgeous George and just like

516
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,319
started dressing up like he's going to the club all

517
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:56,720
the time.

518
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 3: And I guess imagine him like he just he just

519
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,000
he just needed a funk all the time. That that,

520
00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:10,119
to me, is is the thing. And you know he's

521
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,519
all up so he can't get it up. Sometimes breaks

522
00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:15,440
the funk out in hotels room, hotel.

523
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 7: Room, exactly exactly. He definitely, yes.

524
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 3: Right, already here we go, here we go. All right,

525
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,640
all right, alright, bend over, bendover here We're gonna do

526
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,039
it again.

527
00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:28,319
Speaker 10: Freaking out.

528
00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna get it again one more time.

529
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,920
Here we go. Come on, come on, come on, come on,

530
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:40,480
come on, come on, fucking crustal me.

531
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,759
Speaker 7: Sit down, My god, I'm freaking out right now. Well

532
00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:47,440
you know there's nothing.

533
00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 3: I'm fucking a murda gold, I'm scored of god, I'm

534
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,480
gonna get hurt as a rock. And you're not even

535
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,799
going to be able to stand it.

536
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 7: Get down, well least at least trying to talk himself

537
00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:02,960
into it. There's no hotter pillow talk than the guy

538
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,880
going over and over again. Come on, come on, come on,

539
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,680
I mean, are we I mean, are we trying to

540
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,079
get it up?

541
00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 3: Are we trying?

542
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,559
Speaker 7: Or are we hoping? Our horse crosses the finish line

543
00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:13,359
first at the track.

544
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: Come on, let me get you a lorder. Come on,

545
00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:21,079
come on, come on, come on, come on, be the bunch,

546
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,400
you men, come on, be the kingdom of the Mednace.

547
00:24:24,039 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 7: Come on, Mary says, come on, I get the sense

548
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,960
it's not working. You have to say come on that

549
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,759
many times. Come on, It's like I want to try

550
00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:32,359
something different.

551
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,599
Speaker 3: It was like fucking jasper at this.

552
00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:37,839
Speaker 7: Point, Randy, am I still on payroll?

553
00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

554
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,079
Speaker 3: Who who's talking to me?

555
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,559
Speaker 7: Screams, what are you doing? But he doesn't know who's

556
00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:49,960
talking to him, but he says, what are you doing?

557
00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:56,319
Like he knows you, Randy, It's it's Lannie ha.

558
00:24:58,319 --> 00:25:02,559
Speaker 3: Leani Leani Leany Leani? What's fucking leany? What are you

559
00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:03,200
doing over there?

560
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 11: Leaning you?

561
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,279
Speaker 3: What do you are? You watch your metory to get hard?

562
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,559
Is that what you're doing?

563
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,319
Speaker 7: What are you doing over there? Suddenly it's like, oh,

564
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,200
they're in the same room, like you know what I mean,

565
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,880
they're not like a house, and it's like they're in

566
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,480
the same hotel room where he's fucking I didn't even

567
00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:22,440
realize that, but yeah, I guess I didn't really specify.

568
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,359
So it's a wild time and it's this vortex of

569
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,319
savageness that Sid walks into as sort of like a

570
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,440
bodyguard in the beginning to Savage, that would not be

571
00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:35,039
a role he would savor very much. It's not like

572
00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:36,920
he bad mouthed it, but you know, Sid's there to

573
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,960
be a man on his own right always. Sid wants

574
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,160
to be able to author the success of his program exclusively.

575
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:46,319
He doesn't really dig being a tag team wrestler. But

576
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,480
it's in the chaos of him and Kevin Nashman world

577
00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:52,400
champion and passing the belt around that side gets the

578
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,400
WCW title again. We'll get to that for the first time. Actually,

579
00:25:55,599 --> 00:25:57,599
if you don't count, which he does for some reason,

580
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,960
that twenty five seconds at Halloween have like nineteen nine

581
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,279
Before they realized it was Berry. Wyndham dressed his sting

582
00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:05,599
that he thought he counts that as a world title win,

583
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,160
which is brutally hilarious. But this is all a fascinating

584
00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:13,640
thing for Sid because it's his most lucrative run and

585
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,559
it's kind of like his worst run. I mean it's

586
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:19,640
not it's not objectively bad, but it's just it's most

587
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,640
forgettable stuff he did. Let's put it that way. It's

588
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,200
the most forgettable run he had in the national spotlight,

589
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,200
but it's the one that made him the most money.

590
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,640
It's really it's really wild, and it's it says a

591
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,440
lot about w Stuby at the time too, And you know,

592
00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:34,319
say what you will about who killed wtw They went

593
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,759
right past ninety nine and Nash's booking and this is

594
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:39,640
it is what does it? What doesn't mean? Yeah, this

595
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:41,319
is like okay, well they're not gonna be able to

596
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:43,720
write the ship, they're digging a further hole, and then

597
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,480
by late ninety nine when Russo comes in, the goose

598
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:49,319
is cooked. That will create a lot of interesting dynamics.

599
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: Instead of the Millennium Man, he should have been called

600
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,000
the solitary Man.

601
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 7: The solitary Man. Yeah, yeah, indeed, yep, that's how we

602
00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:59,759
preferred to be framed and positioned. But yeah, okay, so

603
00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:01,200
this is good, this is great. You didn't have a

604
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,519
sense of him, really, and you know, you knew he

605
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:04,640
was there, but you didn't watch a.

606
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: Lot of no, not at all. Know, I had no clue.

607
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 7: It's all gravy for me. There's a personal story in that.

608
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,720
I remember being in high school when he came back

609
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,480
and watching that nitro and coming back the next day.

610
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,119
And there was a buddy of mine in my chemistry class.

611
00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:20,000
Rest in peace, he's passed away. We used to talk

612
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:21,160
all the time about wrestling.

613
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: Man.

614
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 7: It was a class where we could dick off. It

615
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,039
wasn't a very serious class at all, So we just

616
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:27,559
sit in the back and just compare notes every single

617
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,480
I think it's every other day, And you know this

618
00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:34,759
is post WWF. Absolutely running away with the Ball nineteen

619
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,759
ninety eight being the transformative here was to say nothing

620
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:39,599
of the first half of ninety nine, where they started

621
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:41,440
doing these ratings that you just you couldn't believe your

622
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,799
eyes on Monday Night Raw and Nitro was doing dog

623
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,359
shit ratings, And so we never talk about Nitro really

624
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,400
that much, but we'd watch it, but it just wouldn't

625
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,599
be the topic of conversation on Tuesday, right right, It

626
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,160
just wouldn't be wasn't top of mind. It wasn't the

627
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,400
most exciting stuff that happened. But Sid Sid's returned to

628
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,599
Nitro was the last time I remember him bringing up WCW. First,

629
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:06,880
It's like, really, did you see Sid? I was like, oh,

630
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:09,200
I don't know why I remember this, but I remember

631
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:13,559
being really kind of like intrigued. Did WCW actually do

632
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,680
something here that might get people to look in for

633
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,200
the first time in what seemed like eight nine, ten months,

634
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:21,279
And of course it wasn't. But he had a little

635
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,759
deal there where he had he had a title match

636
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:25,880
on Nitro with Hogan. Hogan was a face, but he

637
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,759
was still wearing the black and white Hollywood outfit.

638
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: Well I know, it kind of like there there was

639
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,839
and he had he had two. He ended up having

640
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,720
two matches with Hogan. Both are on the tape, right, yeah, well,

641
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:38,400
I mean it quote both matches, yeah, sure.

642
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,519
Speaker 7: Right, And is there one on there with ones in

643
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:42,519
black and white and ones in the red and yellow.

644
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: Brignon, Yeah, we had that. We actually have a Wrestlmania rematch, which, honestly.

645
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 7: It should be epic that Hogan is wrestling sid for

646
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:51,920
the first time.

647
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: It should be. It should be. But I'm just gonna say,

648
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,400
I mean again, I don't want to get too much

649
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,319
into it because the tape will speak for itself, but man,

650
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,400
the finish of the of the one the Red and

651
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:08,440
Yellow is it's it's two. It's so uh. I mean,

652
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:12,000
it's it's an exact replay of a different show and

653
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:18,480
the ending is I mean, it's why we It's why

654
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:20,200
we talk about Hogan the way we talk about.

655
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 7: Hogan, is that right, Yes, It's definitely why we talk

656
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:25,799
about ww in nineteen ninety nine, the way we do

657
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,759
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean it's like, how many times

658
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:31,599
could you watch Nitro and watch Hogan and a DQ

659
00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:34,279
finish and a post match SMAs It's.

660
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: Like, well, which one are you talking about?

661
00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:38,039
Speaker 7: I know exactly because I do remember a little bit of.

662
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: That wasn't the end of the Red and Yellow one.

663
00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 7: I do remember a little bit, a little bit of

664
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,880
a spark when I realized Hogan and said we're going

665
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,000
to wrestle again, because I you know, they never wrestled

666
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:50,880
after Wrestle Mainy eight and that is an absolute core

667
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,880
memories we've talked about for years and years. So there

668
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,559
was that it didn't do. It didn't do the kind

669
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:57,400
of rating that indicated they had life to it. But

670
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,160
those are the last few ratings that seemed like there

671
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,880
were science of life.

672
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,839
Speaker 3: This does the thing. It's not a rating guy. We're

673
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,839
imagine if you if you booked Hogan again and books

674
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,839
it against Hogan and built it for a paid per view.

675
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,720
I can imagine that absolutely getting a decent by rate.

676
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:14,880
But you can't get a rating out of the sid.

677
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,559
Speaker 7: That's how bankrupt they were creatively. They had nothing. I mean,

678
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:20,119
they just like the biggest match we can do, Let's

679
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:22,039
see if that does the rating, and it didn't, and

680
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,119
of course you wenter a fucking panic spiral because if

681
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,000
like the best match we you know, the highest profile

682
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,720
match we can think to put together right now doesn't

683
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:30,759
come anywhere close to touching Ro's rating. And what are

684
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,240
we doing here? Because we built our entire idea and

685
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,960
notion of success on being competitive.

686
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: But I mean, Knights, we know that that's not a thing.

687
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:39,640
That is that that's not a reality.

688
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 7: It's not a reality.

689
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,559
Speaker 3: We don't we know it's not a reality anyway, Like

690
00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:45,440
you just you can't expect one show to mean you're

691
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,480
in business. You have to build towards it. You have

692
00:30:47,519 --> 00:30:48,920
to start from scratch.

693
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 7: Totally, totally, And there was just not the appetite for

694
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,319
that up and down the Turner structure. It was all

695
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:56,599
just let's make up that ground, man, Because you know

696
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,720
we've talked about it endlessly. We will see it again

697
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:00,920
when the Christmas show comes up this year, or all

698
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,720
those licensed merchandise products when they were hot start coming

699
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,599
through in nineteen ninety nine. It's like, who the fuck's

700
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,839
gonna buy this stuff? Noboy's watching WCW anymore.

701
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: I know, I know.

702
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 7: But you have an organization that started to build itself

703
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:12,920
up and come to find out years later, build its

704
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,680
budgets around assumptions that nineteen ninety eight, when you know,

705
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,920
revenue run right would continue, licensing run rate would continue

706
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:21,680
at that level if not, if not exceed it, it's like, no,

707
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:24,920
you actually have to pencil in like forty percent drop

708
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,559
in revenue and buy rates for pay per views, right,

709
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,319
And you have to realize that all these you know,

710
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,920
people tripping over each other to license products in ninety

711
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,039
eight when they were hot. By the time the products

712
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:36,920
are ready to hit the shelves, No the wswree credit card,

713
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,319
No the Nitro grill.

714
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: No Imagine Fashion fred card.

715
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 7: Fuck. Their toys sucked so bad.

716
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,119
Speaker 3: Oh, they were awful, although the ninety nine they weren't.

717
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:53,160
They weren't great, but they weren't awful. I bought the

718
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,559
Nash Yeah, like the last I don't know if it

719
00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:00,480
was nine to nine, two thousand, did you Nash with

720
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:03,359
the big sweeping hair but like kind of a weird body,

721
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,359
but it was really tall, you know, Like they were okay,

722
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,079
I guess, but they weren't great. They certainly weren't great,

723
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,240
and they were definitely more realistic than any we figure

724
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:15,720
ever was.

725
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 7: And they lost the THHQ license. So that's a bullet

726
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,279
in the fucking head. Now their video games are going

727
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:23,559
to be complete ass, which is always a huge chip

728
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:25,720
in their favor. It's if they had that wonderful game

729
00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:30,119
for World Tour and for revenge yep, and now it's gone.

730
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,519
Now it's WWF's even worse. It's not just gone. It's

731
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,519
WWF games or as good as they ors used to

732
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:39,400
be better at a disaster, but it's it's it's World

733
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,079
Championship Wrestling. And it's the man called SID and we're saluting.

734
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: Him here, the millennium man called Sid.

735
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, as only we can try to get maybe

736
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,839
maybe recapture just a little bit of that sense of

737
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:56,319
what caused that, uh, that momentary enthusiasm in my high

738
00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:59,000
school chemistry class that I'm calling here and when I

739
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,680
think about SID in nineteen. So it's a lot to

740
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,319
get into. And we do have a several page contract

741
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,319
here to read into the record, because we need to

742
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:11,319
set the terms of engagement. We need to set the

743
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,000
level of expectations around obligation and around contract and around renunration. Brother,

744
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:24,599
And yeah, whose contract didn't like that word, Terry my contract, dude,

745
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,720
But heay, if we're going to talk about a contract, boss,

746
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:30,079
there's kind of like an unspoken contract for ten years

747
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,200
running between us and the Solar System about what it

748
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,359
takes to keep this engine running. Is there not? Absolutely is,

749
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,640
And tell the folks what form that contract takes.

750
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: I believe it would be a Patreon dot com slash

751
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,759
the lapse van. That's for people who aren't fucking bitches,

752
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,640
who understand that if you want something and you need something,

753
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,960
you have to own up to it correct, you have

754
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,759
to take responsibility for it, correct and do the right thing.

755
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,279
Otherwise things go away.

756
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 7: That's right, that's right. You have to produce, you have

757
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,840
to show, you have to stand up, and you have

758
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,840
to speak up for what you think is important and

759
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,039
what you think should be sustained. That's the only way forward, folks.

760
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,840
That's the only way forward. I mean, it's become very

761
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,760
clear in the creator economy that listen.

762
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,599
Speaker 3: That's that's always the way. I mean, look, it's it's

763
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:34,920
in many ways. You know, it's it's you need. It's like, well,

764
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,880
we talk about all the time regarding television and television

765
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,920
shows and how everyone thinks that there's this new plan

766
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,239
and oh wait when you know we're going to get

767
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,159
all this great stuff you know, essentially for free, and

768
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:46,199
it's like, no, you don't.

769
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 7: Actually you mean around like streaming service bundles.

770
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,199
Speaker 3: And streaming service bundles, all that kind of shit. Note

771
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,039
in the end, you've got to pay for it or

772
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:57,000
you get to take ads, all right, And that's the

773
00:34:57,039 --> 00:35:00,280
way it rolls. That's right. Can't handle that, Get out

774
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,079
of the fucking kitchen.

775
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,199
Speaker 7: And so all we ask is that the hours and

776
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,880
hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and

777
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:13,360
hours and hours that we pour into this show be

778
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,199
met with a little bit of appreciation Over at patreon

779
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,400
dot com slash the Lapsed Fan. And if you don't,

780
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,480
if you don't find that necessary, I regret to inform

781
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:24,039
you we don't find you necessary.

782
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: That's true.

783
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,159
Speaker 7: You can, you can come along for the ride, but

784
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,079
we're not gonna worry once we hit a skin in

785
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,079
the road about keeping you on board. We might just

786
00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:34,239
let you fall off and and wave to you as

787
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,760
you tumble down the hill to your demise.

788
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: Give a lap fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that

789
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,880
knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan.

790
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:14,079
He's an Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and carn

791
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:15,920
Seo and Jpsorrow.

792
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 7: So if you're on the train, make sure you secure

793
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,960
a seat by pledging to that fucking cast. It's all

794
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,639
like you don't get anything for it. In fact, you

795
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:24,639
get some of our best stuff. This has been a

796
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:26,960
banner year. Not only for us on the main feed TLFX,

797
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,360
this has been a banner year boss for that EP

798
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,880
and above benefit or one and only under the cinemat.

799
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: Oh, let me tell you we are coming. We are

800
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,960
rounding third when it comes to Carneizar forever. All right.

801
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,360
We have been on a crazy, crazy journey since March,

802
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:54,840
chronicling nearly every James Bond film as to date, twenty

803
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,320
two out of the twenty seven recognized although not necessarily

804
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:06,320
officially Eon production James Bond films qualify front of the cinema. Okay,

805
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:12,719
that was the reason why we said upon this journey

806
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,920
was that so we could touch every single era of

807
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:21,320
James Bond. And we are, we're we're coming close. We

808
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,000
got two movies left, and you know, we get to

809
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:33,400
put that one to bed. And it's I think you don't.

810
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,599
You're gonna get way more for your dollar if you're

811
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:40,920
a film fan, if you're a Bond fan, because it

812
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,920
covers not only just James Bond, it covers the decline

813
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:48,920
of MGM. It covers and This is not by design.

814
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,000
This was just happenstance. It covers the rise and fall

815
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:58,039
of producers, actors, the whole thing. I mean, it's it's

816
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:04,480
really the the story had so many threads, more than

817
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:08,239
I even thought. I always expect there to be more

818
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:11,159
than what I you know, than what I thought was

819
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:13,280
going to be there. But this was like I was like,

820
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,920
holy shit, Like we're actually chronicling the demise of MGM,

821
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:24,039
Like we're actually chronicling all of Albert Brockley's fucking career. Yep,

822
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:26,679
we're actually you know, all these things. Like it's not

823
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,599
just you know, you you jump onto these we decided

824
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:34,000
to do these journeys, and we think, okay, it's gonna

825
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,719
be you know, it's gonna be kind of a cut

826
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,360
and dry thing. And it's like, well wait a minute, no,

827
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:42,400
Like there's all these elements that we didn't even consider that,

828
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,599
I mean, and there's been one through line that that

829
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,639
finally comes to a head in in our next in

830
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:51,599
our next film, and it's like this, it's a thing

831
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:55,440
that's been brewing since day one, Since day one, it's

832
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,760
been brewing, and and it's like all this it's just

833
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,960
I don't know I I think it's I think you

834
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,360
get more more than what you pay for in my opinion.

835
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 7: And take it from me who hasn't seen a single

836
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:10,519
Bond film from front to back until we started his journey.

837
00:39:11,639 --> 00:39:13,400
If you don't think you're into it, you'll be into

838
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,039
it because the wrestlers that are part of the franchise

839
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:19,960
over the years, from Harold soccata as odd Job to

840
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:27,440
what Pat Roach, who is just a famed UK grappler

841
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,000
slash stunt man that's just fascinating to learn about, Peter

842
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:35,280
My via the High Chief Tiger, Joe Robinson unbelievable, and

843
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,519
Milton Read Milton, I mean that's been as always. The

844
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:46,079
fun is just is discovering wrestlers who I shouldn't say

845
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:50,199
discovering rediscovering wrestlers whose careers have been lost to time. Yes,

846
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,000
who's been lost to time, and in some cases are

847
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:54,599
still hyper relevant like a certain animal. I mean, there's

848
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,400
we're bookmarking the whole history of wrestling too. In a way,

849
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:01,519
we're at least speaking to eras and geographies that we

850
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:04,199
otherwise really wouldn't have cause to because there's got a

851
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:06,440
ton of footage that exists to put on the table

852
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,199
for traditional t left treatment. It's not unlike the lamentimal

853
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,159
tragedy of World Class. We set out to figure out

854
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,000
what happened to these boys. We ended up telling the

855
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:16,079
entire story of Dallas Wrestling. We you know, the whole

856
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:18,920
story of the Sportatorium. They had Maclamore days talking about

857
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:22,039
Morris Siegel talking about how Fritz built what he you know,

858
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:24,599
built the nest egg that he sent the kids off

859
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:26,760
into to try to dominate. It's like, oh my god.

860
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,679
And then like the further tentacles, what about lands von Eric,

861
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,920
Like we didn't think about that, you know, what about

862
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,119
what ends up happening to Chris Adams and how that

863
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:37,199
kind of bespeaks the whole tragic cloud over the whole thing.

864
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,280
What about what happens to Gino. It's like all of

865
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,480
these branches on the tree that you know, you don't

866
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,679
see it, and you start climbing that trunk, bitch, right,

867
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:48,400
So get on the fucking trunk under the cinemat. Carnies

868
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,039
are forever, and so is that Patreon, and so is

869
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:55,079
that Patreon. And folks in the moat tier, which is

870
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:57,360
the tip top tier, our ride or dies. Those we

871
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,400
will make sure to make space on on the island.

872
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,039
When we're the last people left on the planet.

873
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:06,599
Speaker 3: Listen, I will, I will, I will be like Hulk

874
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:08,079
Hogan and brutis speaking.

875
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:12,519
Speaker 7: I will pump the blood yes of my veins. Okay,

876
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:14,800
because it's folks like this, we love all our patrons.

877
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,320
But every podcast that's going to have the life the

878
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,000
life span we do has to have a strong core

879
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:22,880
like our moat tier, have to have to have people

880
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,480
that go above and beyond in terms of expressing support.

881
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,480
You know, it's no different than public radio. You know,

882
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:30,199
everyone you know puts a little bit in the pot,

883
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,880
but really it's those consistent, big whale supporters that if

884
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,679
they're not on board, panic sets in right. As far

885
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,559
as making the making the fundraising rounds every quarter, these

886
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:41,800
are your real seed funders. These are the folks that

887
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,880
really put the cash on the table to make us

888
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,000
take adventurous risks to say, you know what, fuck everything,

889
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,840
We're going to keep doing something until we feel like

890
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,880
it's done. We're going to go as long as we

891
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,559
have to. We're going to clear out the decks as

892
00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:59,159
much as we have to be it to serenade sid

893
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,880
to look at the wrestling influences in the Bond films,

894
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:04,639
be it to talk about the life and times of

895
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,559
Terry Funk. No one else has the luxury of being

896
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,039
able to grind everything into a halt, put everything on

897
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:12,760
order until the job is done. And what makes it

898
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,760
worth it for everybody and you all know this by now,

899
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:17,719
is that sitting in that archive of this podcast, that

900
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,960
shelf life is unmatched. Unmatched are your wrestling You'll be

901
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,960
able to go back there and confidently say that if

902
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,400
I'm interested in this event, in this wrestler, or in

903
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,599
this subject, this is all I'm reasonably going to need. Yes,

904
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,280
to capture what they were about, what resonated about them

905
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,239
or it and the flashpoints, and even beyond that, look

906
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:45,199
no further than you know Holt mccallumy, okay.

907
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh fucking a. I mean he's when he had.

908
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,599
Speaker 7: To become Fritz. What podcast did the fucking trick? Don't

909
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:56,199
you ever forget that that shelf life time lapsed then,

910
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,480
and you're helping to fund our ability to take that

911
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:03,480
risk and to not stop until it's done every single time.

912
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,400
And the Moat tier again are the premium supporters of

913
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,840
the mission. And not only do they get that that shine.

914
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,639
As a result, they get wrestle Mamia. Yes they do,

915
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,760
and my god, getting wrestle Mamia is something worth getting

916
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,079
it If you're in this for the memories of watching

917
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:21,480
wrestling as a kid, of being on the living room

918
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,039
carpet while your parents offered commentary in the background, this

919
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:28,000
is as close as you're going to get to that experience.

920
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:29,719
Boss plenty to come from Mama Sora.

921
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 3: I mean by this point, you know, motors have already

922
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,079
listened to my mom and I want and I see

923
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:41,599
you you as well, you were there for this one.

924
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,000
I make special appearances.

925
00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 7: I do.

926
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,599
Speaker 3: Yes, Indeed, we all watched Rob Van Dam versus Jerry

927
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:51,880
Lynn from Living Dangerously ninety nine, as we did, and

928
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:57,079
that's the most recent wrestle Mamia. And you know, and

929
00:43:57,199 --> 00:43:59,719
coming up right after, you know, next week with when

930
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,360
they giving and all we do, I like to do

931
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:09,079
a a traditional Survivor series matchup for the Thanksgiving week tradition,

932
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:15,400
and uh, there'll be a fun, fun, stupid fucking four

933
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,039
on four match for your enjoyment.

934
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 7: Starting to see people advocate to bring that back. Get

935
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,719
sick of the war games, Yeah.

936
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:24,679
Speaker 3: You should, of course they should. I don't I don't.

937
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,519
I mean, listen, I'm fine with the war games, but

938
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:28,760
I just we've done enough now.

939
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,519
Speaker 7: I don't remember a single fucking thing that happened in

940
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:33,039
any of them, nowhere near what I remember in the

941
00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:34,360
Survivor's series elimination tags.

942
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: Oh, I agree, I sho tell you not to mention

943
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the the fucking war Games of old.

944
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:42,639
Speaker 7: There's only so many fucking West Side story face offs

945
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:43,920
that I can remember and keep trying.

946
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,199
Speaker 3: I know, I can't stand. I can't stand those staged,

947
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,920
fucking annoying things that they do.

948
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,519
Speaker 7: There's only so many completely unnecessary loading up the war

949
00:44:51,559 --> 00:44:56,400
games cage with tables and garbage cans and fucking crunches and.

950
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,599
Speaker 3: Just violence, like just fighting, and guys, like, when did

951
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:03,800
that cages enough? Then don't do war games. If you

952
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,960
have to fill the wargames cage up with all the

953
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,239
things you'd use to make a regular match stand out,

954
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,400
then just do that kind of match, you know, fucking

955
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,480
make a make a Survivors series, you know, notice qualification

956
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:18,159
ten man tag or something, because like, don't pretend you're

957
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:22,400
doing war games. That's fucking obnoxious by now, you know,

958
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:29,039
just remember too, like fucking the uh uh you know

959
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:32,800
what was exciting about a war Games match back in

960
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,239
the day that still excites me when we would watch it.

961
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:38,440
We watch it for the art of wargames journey, the

962
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,280
fucking like sting, just holding onto the ceiling and doing

963
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,079
a kick to somebody's face like that was exciting.

964
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:44,519
Speaker 7: We're having to climb the top of the cage because

965
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:46,280
there's a fucking roof on it, as there should be,

966
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,000
right or actually, you know, remembering and caring and popping

967
00:45:51,039 --> 00:45:53,920
for a rocky steamboat entering the cage or hawk entering

968
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,440
the cage. Nobody that enters a cage in a w

969
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:58,800
W War Games maybe Kevin Owens in the xt one,

970
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,360
but that doesn't count. I'm talking the ones I remember

971
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,119
a single run in because they're up on the fucking

972
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,639
shark cage. They all have their entrance music. Nobody's pulling

973
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,599
on the door, chomping at the bit. The baby faces

974
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:13,800
are never an appropriate peril thumbs down, It's lame. And

975
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,239
with that said, another reason to make sure your Patreon

976
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,079
is current and in line is our upcoming series of

977
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,320
premium live event live calls, which we of course watch

978
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,480
modern WWE so you don't have to, but indeed, it

979
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:28,719
is the Thanksgiving tradition. Survivory series coming up at the

980
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,480
end of the month will be live up on Patreon

981
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:33,239
for you with our match by match call through the laps.

982
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: The post Thanksgiving tradition.

983
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 7: Now, ye, who knows, it's a tradition that we post.

984
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,480
That's for sure, that's true. And so the art of

985
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,360
war games continues in that respect, coming up on Patreon

986
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,559
for your Patreon dollar. An addition, will have the Saturday

987
00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:52,239
Nights Made event coming up, which is going to be

988
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,519
label a pl in December, so that'll be interesting to

989
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:57,079
get back into that for your Patreon dollar. And I

990
00:46:57,079 --> 00:46:58,880
don't know, Boss, I've kicked this around. I haven't run

991
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,360
it by you yet, but maybe the first run Netflix

992
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:04,519
might make some sense.

993
00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that kind of works in a way.

994
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,960
I mean from the Into It Dome, the new Into

995
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,440
It Dome in l A. Excuse me, you know that

996
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,239
big stated for the Clippers. What are we into?

997
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 7: Remember WrestleMania when we went to LA they had that

998
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,000
big Clippers stadium they were building.

999
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,559
Speaker 3: Uh no, that's.

1000
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,599
Speaker 7: Coming all right, and travel there is going to be there.

1001
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,119
Speaker 3: What are they into? They're into it?

1002
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 7: So maybe yeah, in other words, that's gonna be a

1003
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,920
great landing pad for shows that you know, draw draw

1004
00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:35,360
enough of our attention that we might sprinkle in some

1005
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,199
extra live calls because you know, the fucking Rumble is

1006
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,360
until February. It's so annoying and that fucking obnoxious, it's

1007
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,360
so stupid wrestlming is gonna at the end of April.

1008
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:48,119
I mean, I don't know why they're still gonna have

1009
00:47:48,159 --> 00:47:50,159
two pay per views in between. Guys, you get that,

1010
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:54,840
you don't you have that weekend between the fucking finals

1011
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,400
of the playoffs in the NFL and the Super Bowl.

1012
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 3: That's when you do Worry Rumble. It's there for that reason.

1013
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,960
I mean, you know, it's kind of funny too, like maybe.

1014
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 7: Out to check the calendar, maybe that is this weekend

1015
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,719
this year, maybe it falls into February. But I don't care.

1016
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: It's gross, you know I and I get and I

1017
00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:15,599
get the idea that, you know, they want to prevent

1018
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:23,039
the freezing cold of like of what happened in Philadelphia

1019
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:28,119
last year. But you know what, guys like you're in Vegas,

1020
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,239
the last thing you need to do is have in

1021
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,239
the mid April and late April fucking Vegas, right, I'm

1022
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,239
sure could have done early April, late March, like normal

1023
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:37,960
fucking people.

1024
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:40,559
Speaker 7: There's some bullshit where like Vegas came to the table

1025
00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:43,519
late and was all booked up on the typical Wrestlmania weekend,

1026
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,400
and so they just took whatever because there's a huge

1027
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:47,960
fat check waiting for him when.

1028
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 3: They get there.

1029
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:48,519
Speaker 4: You know.

1030
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: That's that's that's the problem right there.

1031
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 7: So so definitely a time to lock into the live

1032
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,559
call is that's going to accelerate through the end of

1033
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:58,800
the year as well. So many more benefits. You get

1034
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,880
add free version of this pot cast. You get deep

1035
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,079
dives in Part twos, a day earlier than anybody else.

1036
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,239
We try to make that happen for you. It hasn't

1037
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,599
always happened that way, but it's definitely a goal. You

1038
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:11,199
got the archives ad free, not the entirety of the archive,

1039
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,360
but everything that's been up since we started doing our

1040
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,840
Patreon and just the give and take with the listeners. Man,

1041
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,400
this is the coolest comment section, if you want to

1042
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,719
call it that, that I've ever seen in the wrestling space.

1043
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:24,159
I agree the ship people say under the audio files

1044
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:25,559
and the way they go back and forth and the

1045
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:28,800
insightful things they say they take issue with us sometimes,

1046
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,639
which I don't really support. It's a great kind of

1047
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:35,199
like way to put to the test if what we're

1048
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,280
doing is up to snuff.

1049
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,199
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, absolutely, you know we even have you know,

1050
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,239
on occasion occasion, Fuel obligated to write back. Had a

1051
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:50,159
nice back and forth with with the Brian Blake over

1052
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,599
nineteen seventies filmmakers after our Exos episode dropped.

1053
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 7: It's been so great about it. Under the cinemat too

1054
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,199
is to bring out the cinephiles in the Solar system

1055
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,639
via the Patreon comments because they're ready, they're ready to

1056
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:04,320
fill in holes and yep, all that stuff.

1057
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: So that's great. I mean, as you knows, as much

1058
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,280
as I try to fill in every last thing that

1059
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,199
I can, you know, there's there is only so much

1060
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:17,079
Like there's the it's amazing how expansive and don't even

1061
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:22,719
realize how expansive, like the Hollywood film businesses. It's even

1062
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,119
more than so than I thought, you know, it's there's

1063
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:26,280
so much information out there.

1064
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's like double the amount of information that you

1065
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:29,880
could access than a wrestling show.

1066
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,199
Speaker 3: So that's it's it's sometimes it really is. I mean

1067
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,280
it's like sometimes I'm like, holy shit, because the real

1068
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,199
world is covering it.

1069
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 7: It's right. It justifies actual documentation by the press, right.

1070
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,519
Speaker 3: Right, you know, and actually people actually are interested in.

1071
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,159
Speaker 7: This, right exactly. Beyond like two or three newsletters, there's

1072
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:48,400
actually like the real newspapers you can look at.

1073
00:50:48,599 --> 00:50:50,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the New York Times actually is interested in

1074
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,280
what you know is happening behind the scenes of the Exorcist.

1075
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 7: And you know, sleigh bells are ringing. You can hear

1076
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,000
them in the distance.

1077
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,559
Speaker 3: Yes, arched up.

1078
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 7: Rudolph's ready and your co chairmen are ready as we are.

1079
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,480
Every holiday season coming quite soon, it's the third annual unwrapping.

1080
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:10,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, we get to we need to get a fucking

1081
00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:12,559
rink in bass into the cinema and that's what we need.

1082
00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 7: You act like it's anyone else's thing but your own.

1083
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,440
Go for it. If it hasn't happened, it's your fault.

1084
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,039
Speaker 3: Well, it's not my fault. They just didn't hire a wrestler,

1085
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:23,880
that's true, or find a wrestling connection.

1086
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's that's the calls right there. Did know that,

1087
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,320
wouldn't Mark Billy de Wolf, that's the he had nothing

1088
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,320
to do with wrestling. I don't know. Did uh a

1089
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,599
guy who goes Rush Rush ever do a Jimmy Duranti,

1090
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:43,039
did ever do anything wrestling related?

1091
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:47,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, mad, Jimmy Durant. He looks seems like a guy

1092
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:49,199
who who would have been a wrestling announcer.

1093
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 7: I know exactly there's someone who like we did an

1094
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,119
ad campaign with like Bruno, right or something like that. Right,

1095
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,159
But I get what we're going to deliver. The rapping

1096
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:05,079
is coming Mountain, Oh man. The halls are decked, the

1097
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:08,000
ignogus pored, and your coachiers prepared to share with you

1098
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:12,119
the process of unwrapping gifts from across the Solar System,

1099
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:16,199
from across the world. It was a it was a battle.

1100
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,920
It was it was Titanic in its epic, noess God,

1101
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:22,519
and it'll be unloaded on the Solar system before you know.

1102
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:28,119
Speaker 3: Exhausting. It was so exhausting before you know exhausting.

1103
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:31,159
Speaker 7: And look, if you want to share lapsness with the

1104
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,000
lapsed fan in your life, if you want to, uh,

1105
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:36,519
maybe get a gift list out to those in your life,

1106
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:39,599
you really ought to consider some of the premium apparel

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that we've got at Chopped Teas. Okay, look up our

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1110
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and hoodies and all kinds of stuff that you really

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can rock that logo with pride, with a high higher

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has a deep collection of We've got your black T

1119
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shirts and plenty of multi colored ones as well, including

1120
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ones that document the very journey that we're on right now. Boss.

1121
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: We have indeed two more coming out.

1122
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 12: You know.

1123
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 3: I'm I'm ready to submit them for approval. But look

1124
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,480
look out there for a udi Mania shirt. I think

1125
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:42,920
you Mania is running wild, yes, And as well as

1126
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,360
the uh I'm either eating waffles or I'm eating your

1127
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:53,280
face shirt. I don't even remember that one. It's it's

1128
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:59,039
a Vader thing, like fucking Vader is a wall. He wouldn't, Oh,

1129
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:01,199
but I know that is. But I didn't remember the

1130
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,760
side of it. I don't know why. Yeah, he you

1131
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:10,800
know Vader and he well he's walking on hot waffles. Yeah,

1132
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,280
he was threatening people. He was an old guy. All

1133
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,199
I remember is this guy in the back, who's the chef.

1134
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,599
You know this. I think we came up with it.

1135
00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:24,159
A guy. You know, he's not he's retired. He just

1136
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:25,840
does this to get out of the house. You know.

1137
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,599
It's like it just a shit job that he does,

1138
00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:30,159
just to say that used to be involved with people.

1139
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,639
And Vader is like in his face saying I'm going

1140
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,719
to either eat waffles or I'm gonna eat your face.

1141
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 7: Spittle everywhere exactly. And shout out to Brian, who has

1142
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,440
also joined the elite group of folks that have toggled

1143
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,800
over to Pro Wrestling teas dot Com slash lapsed fan

1144
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,760
and purchased a Sid's Vienna's T shirt as part of

1145
00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:56,840
sid tribute collection that's apparently got more chapters to go.

1146
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,280
And yes, Andrew, we called him out for being I

1147
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,519
believe the first to buy one of the Sids Vienna's

1148
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:04,800
Designs T shirts and he wrote us up. He said,

1149
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,599
I don't know if that was me, but here's the story.

1150
00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:10,159
So I'm listening to the latest SID Tribute Part six

1151
00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:11,760
and there is a shout out to and Andrew, who

1152
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,960
purchased the SIDS Vienna shirt. My name is Andrew, and

1153
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,079
I recently purchased the SIDS Vicious Vienna shirt. Now. I

1154
00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:19,039
don't know if you're talking about me on the show

1155
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:20,760
or if it's some other Andrew who got in touch

1156
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,320
with you after buying the shirt, but I thought y'all

1157
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,679
might get a kick out of why I got the shirt. Yes, recently,

1158
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,199
my wife and I made a trip to Canada to

1159
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:29,280
see some family, A fifteen hour drive for us, so

1160
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,400
I always load up on podcasts and make the drive

1161
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,199
easier for me. For context, my wife gotta go. Yeah,

1162
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,360
we know where this is going, right. Would you ever like,

1163
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,280
oh my God, with the family in the car, load

1164
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,000
up TLF No, unreal, no, never for contact. My wife

1165
00:55:44,039 --> 00:55:45,719
has heard the cast before, and let's just say she

1166
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,679
doesn't get it.

1167
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1168
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 7: Our trip to Canada just happened to be the same

1169
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,960
week the SID Tribute Part one drop, where we discovered

1170
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,679
Sid's eternal link to Vienna sausages. My wife, who was

1171
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:58,840
barely paying attention, would yell every time Vienna sausages were

1172
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,480
mentioned during five or so hour long podcasts. I thought

1173
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,679
this was a wrestling podcast. Why do they keep talking

1174
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:10,000
about vienna sausages? She said? And every time I would

1175
00:56:10,039 --> 00:56:12,599
laugh at the mention of Vienna's, she would yell, why

1176
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:16,280
are you laughing? This isn't funny. There's another t shirt,

1177
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,840
boss for the store, write that one down. Why are

1178
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,320
you laughing? This isn't funny t l FX.

1179
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,159
Speaker 3: Why and it be like Wife of Lapsed Fans.

1180
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 7: Rights the Lapsed Wife Yes TLW. So as soon as

1181
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,119
I heard there would be a shirt in tribute to

1182
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:36,360
sit On for wrestling teas, I knew what I had

1183
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,880
to do. I ordered her the it's for her, Oh

1184
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,360
my god, Oh my god. I ordered her brilliant, the

1185
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,440
largest size available on the site, to give her as

1186
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,400
a gag gift for Christmas. I figured she can wear

1187
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,480
it around the house with the other oversized teas that

1188
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:51,000
she has. Like I said, I'm not sure if I'm

1189
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,639
the Andrew being mentioned, but I might give her the

1190
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:54,440
shirt early and play her the clip and just say

1191
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,960
it was about me. Anyway, I would do that. Andrew,

1192
00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:00,159
you have our full That's that's brilliant, that's great. That's

1193
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:01,559
the kind of stuff that happens out there. Man, those

1194
00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:05,679
are little moments that we so live for hearing like little.

1195
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 3: What was it direct quote? It was why are you laughing?

1196
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,159
This isn't even funny?

1197
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, something like that. Let me pull it back up.

1198
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,360
It is why are you laughing? This isn't funny? It's great,

1199
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:23,519
fucking soy boy podcast, fun right podcast, own fucking jokes.

1200
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:24,039
Speaker 8: Holes.

1201
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 7: Love it so much. So yeah, all the love, all

1202
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,639
the respect, all the best wishes coming to you is

1203
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:34,239
as we hit American Thanksgiving here, as we hit the

1204
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:40,039
holiday season globally, TLF you know, TLF is here. TF

1205
00:57:40,119 --> 00:57:44,519
is always here, always, and we hope you find our

1206
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:50,360
many offerings part of your holiday feast this year. Well,

1207
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,480
we've got that established. The terms of engagement are set.

1208
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:55,920
People now know what they need to do to deserve

1209
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,760
what's about to come. Yes, and that is our dive

1210
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,559
into independ contractor agreement.

1211
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:08,119
Speaker 3: Boss, give me independent independent contractor agreement.

1212
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,639
Speaker 7: Signed if I'm not mistaken two days before he came

1213
00:58:10,679 --> 00:58:14,519
back to WCW in nineteen nine June. That is the

1214
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:18,480
contract of SID And I believe mister Ude himself has

1215
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:25,000
donned the bespectacles and is going to read us the

1216
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:28,400
chapter and verse of the most lucrative contract of his life.

1217
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 3: This independent contractor agreement. The agreement is made and entered

1218
00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:40,400
into as of the ninth day of June nineteen ninety nine,

1219
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:47,480
by and between World Championship Wrestling Incorporated, a Georgia Company

1220
00:58:47,639 --> 00:58:53,480
Corporation located at one CNN Center, Atlanta, Georgia, three three

1221
00:58:53,559 --> 00:59:01,239
four A WCW and Sydney r ud Wrestler For a

1222
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:06,920
consideration of the mutual promises and agreements contained herein, and

1223
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:12,199
other good and valuable consideration, the receipt and sufficiency of

1224
00:59:12,239 --> 00:59:17,400
which is hereby acknowledged. The parties hereby agree as follows.

1225
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 7: Of the parties hereby agree to.

1226
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 3: Number one services. Services is correct a subject to the

1227
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,920
terms and conditions set forth in this agreement. Wrestler agrees

1228
00:59:32,039 --> 00:59:36,920
to provide the following services as requested by w CW,

1229
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:43,280
appear and perform as a professional wrestler at events.

1230
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,119
Speaker 7: How do they ever get to agree to that.

1231
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:51,519
Speaker 3: Including without limitation, live and tape television shows, pay per

1232
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:56,719
view telecasts, live arena shows, and other promotional events as requested.

1233
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,679
Speaker 7: But I do not agree to this. I won't That's

1234
01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:04,199
written in the margin. For those of you wondering, I.

1235
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: Won't agree to be there at beck and Call.

1236
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:10,679
Speaker 7: Now listen, you're gonna tell s Justice that I have

1237
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,920
to appear and perform as a professional wrestler at events.

1238
01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: Now, I don't recall, ever forever appearing at events.

1239
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:27,039
Speaker 7: There you go. You knew it was coming. Direct hit direct, fucking.

1240
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:34,239
Speaker 3: Hit number two. Cooperate with and assist in activities intended

1241
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:41,559
to publicize, advertise, and promote the events WCW and WCW merchandise,

1242
01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:47,760
including by not limited to, on sale ticket appearances, media interviews,

1243
01:00:48,039 --> 01:00:56,000
and other publicity appearances. Develop his own individual wrestling style

1244
01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:01,599
and persona with advice from WCW that will be attractive

1245
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:02,960
to wrestling fans.

1246
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,599
Speaker 7: And we'll pause right there. Okay, there is a contract

1247
01:01:07,679 --> 01:01:11,400
term in WCW agreements in which the wrestler agrees to

1248
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:17,360
I can't develop his own individual wrestling style and persona, So.

1249
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,559
Speaker 3: I want nothing to do with what you do, all right?

1250
01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:22,679
This is all you, Right, you develop it, you do

1251
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,440
this shit. I don't want nothing to do with it.

1252
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 7: I mean, god, what is this term for?

1253
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:26,599
Speaker 3: Like?

1254
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 7: Is this like something they come back and hit you with?

1255
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,239
If you like, go out there and don't come up

1256
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,119
with something that's quote attractive to wrestling fans. Like, what's

1257
01:01:35,159 --> 01:01:37,800
their recourse at that point? Like you violated your contract?

1258
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:39,199
No one cares about it.

1259
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 3: Someone says, hey, you know what, SID, we told you

1260
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,519
to do that, So you're fucking fired.

1261
01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:53,719
Speaker 7: Right, it's the booking plan, Like why are you? Why

1262
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,599
is there a contract term that allows you to come

1263
01:01:55,639 --> 01:01:57,239
after me? If people that might be a SID?

1264
01:01:57,239 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 3: And I will not do what WWS.

1265
01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:02,119
Speaker 7: Right, only on advice and consent.

1266
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:07,239
Speaker 3: I will listen to advice and I will listen to consent.

1267
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:18,360
But you better but I will not be obligated. I repeat,

1268
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,199
I will not be obligated to do anything you say. Right,

1269
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:30,760
I developed persona, I developed style, yep, and it's all

1270
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:31,280
my own.

1271
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:40,119
Speaker 7: I develop a persona that's a quote anyway, Next.

1272
01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:49,079
Speaker 3: Provide oh, here we go again, provide a wardrobe, props

1273
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,039
and makeup necessary for his performance at any event?

1274
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 7: Said, did you bring your makeup?

1275
01:02:56,079 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: I have zombie makeup. I stick my that to my character.

1276
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,039
Since I developed my own persona.

1277
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 7: That is attractive to wrestling fans.

1278
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: I can tell you right now that my persona that

1279
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,119
I've developed on my own and my style is very

1280
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:19,000
attractive to fans. And my attire, my wardrobe, it is

1281
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:20,880
attractive to fans.

1282
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,519
Speaker 7: You in the head like a shut It'll hit you in.

1283
01:03:23,519 --> 01:03:31,239
Speaker 3: The head like a shot. You. You are looking at

1284
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:36,079
the revolutionary one. I revolt.

1285
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,199
Speaker 7: Yeah, you say that again.

1286
01:03:41,079 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 3: I am the revolting one. I am the revolving one.

1287
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:56,679
I revolve, I revolt, I do not obey. I develop

1288
01:03:57,519 --> 01:03:58,679
on an individual place.

1289
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:03,199
Speaker 7: See what you need to understand about me is I

1290
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:06,679
develop on an individual basis. And what you need right

1291
01:04:06,679 --> 01:04:07,760
now is a big vicious heel.

1292
01:04:08,679 --> 01:04:12,519
Speaker 8: Oh my god.

1293
01:04:12,119 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 3: Provided however, all such items shall be subject to approval

1294
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:24,039
by WCW prior to their use in an event. So

1295
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:26,880
he has to bring it all in, but he might

1296
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,239
not be able to use it at all. That's right,

1297
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,440
if they don't like it. The wardrobes and props, yes,

1298
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:32,840
is that something I have not heard that before? I thought,

1299
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,800
fucking they have wardrobe people? Now they do?

1300
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it was in Warriors contract too, Like they

1301
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,559
still kind of make him responsible for his gear even

1302
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:42,920
if they even if they provide it to him.

1303
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 3: That's so weird.

1304
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,719
Speaker 7: It's very strange.

1305
01:04:46,679 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 3: And perform such other services as may be reasonably requested

1306
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,679
by WCW. What's reasonable in your eyes? WCW.

1307
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 9: That word reasonably is in there for a reason.

1308
01:04:56,519 --> 01:05:01,079
Speaker 3: I'm not giving blowjobs right before you even ask. I've

1309
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:07,079
done it before I begin. There's no way you get

1310
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:16,159
Sid on his knees blown cock, right, you understand.

1311
01:05:17,679 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 7: I will not join you on the balcony to watch

1312
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:20,400
the lightning.

1313
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: I've blow him too many fools in my line.

1314
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 7: My god, Patterson wanted to jerk him off off the balcony.

1315
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,280
So like has come like rained down, you know what

1316
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,760
I mean, just like very subtle, almost like bird poop.

1317
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's just like get through them gets fucking

1318
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:39,400
smacked in the eye with.

1319
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 7: Through the Tampa night sky, you know.

1320
01:05:42,039 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 3: With a spot of fucking sidges.

1321
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 7: Sid barely makes a sound as it comes out, Sid.

1322
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 8: Sid just.

1323
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 7: Isn't this isn't the lightning's amazing? Said, tell you what?

1324
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,800
Put those down? What? What's wrong? What are you homophobe?

1325
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 8: Like?

1326
01:06:01,239 --> 01:06:02,519
Speaker 7: Do you have a problem with them doing that?

1327
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 4: All right?

1328
01:06:07,639 --> 01:06:10,199
Speaker 7: And down come his turquoise trunks of course, right.

1329
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 3: Of course it's always wearing some of the fucking roof,

1330
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,760
always wearing fucking turk oise trunks.

1331
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 7: It dribbles out pathetically. What episode is it where they

1332
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,079
talk about, Oh, it must be when he it must

1333
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:36,639
be when he first cut us to w WF because

1334
01:06:36,639 --> 01:06:38,840
that's where that story comes from. No, that's why they're

1335
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,239
reading his ww contract.

1336
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,519
Speaker 3: Of course, that's what it is.

1337
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:58,599
Speaker 1: It's the lap wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows

1338
01:06:58,639 --> 01:07:16,679
the boys need their candy. It's the lapsed fan. He's

1339
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:21,599
the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio and JP.

1340
01:07:21,519 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 3: Sorow wrestler agrees to use his best efforts to perform

1341
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:30,360
the services in a professional manner consistent with the customs of.

1342
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 7: The professional I said, I want to talk to a

1343
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,719
little bit about your performance. You know, we're a little

1344
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,719
underwhelmed so far. We wonder if you're giving it one

1345
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,159
hundred percent. Well, I have agreed to use my best efforts.

1346
01:07:42,519 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 3: Let me tell you I've used my best efforts. My

1347
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,480
best efforts are never one hundred percent.

1348
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 7: Well, there's a contradiction in terms. I am only obligated

1349
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:55,920
to use my best efforts to perform the services in

1350
01:07:55,960 --> 01:08:00,199
a professional manner consistent with the customs of the professional wrestling, and.

1351
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 3: I have never said my best efforts would be one

1352
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,679
hundred percent. I never said that. That was not the contract.

1353
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,679
If you ask me right there and there, I'll say

1354
01:08:09,679 --> 01:08:11,440
my best efforts at least.

1355
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 7: What says here inconsistent with the customs of the professional

1356
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,880
wrestling industry said. It doesn't say one hundred percent will

1357
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,680
grant you that. But isn't that sort of what that

1358
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:18,680
means is not implied.

1359
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 3: No, my best effort comes at seventy five percent of

1360
01:08:22,039 --> 01:08:29,279
the most. If you're looking for immaculate effort, we're talking

1361
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:30,000
ninety percent.

1362
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 7: Pay increase.

1363
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:40,399
Speaker 3: I demand one hundred extra dollars per minute. I am

1364
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:45,640
employed under contract. If you insist on immaculate effort.

1365
01:08:45,399 --> 01:08:49,319
Speaker 7: For every minute that mister Uty is employed by World

1366
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:53,359
Championship Wrestling, regardless of whether he's wrestling or not, or

1367
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:55,239
even appearing in an arena or not, he shall be

1368
01:08:55,239 --> 01:08:59,439
paid the sum of one hundred dollars for every minute.

1369
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,039
Speaker 3: Just gonna just gonna fucking do the math I.

1370
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,359
Speaker 7: Do this mag is a no fucking how many minutes

1371
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:05,800
in a year?

1372
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 3: I mean, let's just do it. Yere one hundred, one

1373
01:09:10,079 --> 01:09:14,119
hundred dollars times sixty minutes. That's six thousand dollars an hour.

1374
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:19,880
It's fine times twenty four hours a day. That's all

1375
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,560
forty four thousand dollars a day.

1376
01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 7: So stop me when it's a problem.

1377
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 3: Right, This is which is a million, a million, eight

1378
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:36,199
thousand a week. Yeah, okay, Tom, listen, I understand, and

1379
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,039
we'll go for the big one. What about fifty two

1380
01:09:38,039 --> 01:09:39,840
weeks a year? Forty two weeks? Right?

1381
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,359
Speaker 7: Yep?

1382
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:45,199
Speaker 3: All right, So well that's fifty two million, four hundred

1383
01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:46,600
and sixteen thousand dollars a year.

1384
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,279
Speaker 7: God damn did I hear it right?

1385
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:54,199
Speaker 3: Making fifty effort.

1386
01:09:57,039 --> 01:10:01,239
Speaker 7: That would go around the business pretty quick. All right, guys, uh,

1387
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:06,720
sid just signed a fifty two million dollar contract. Hilarious?

1388
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,800
Is that like Hogan is making like three?

1389
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 8: Brother?

1390
01:10:11,079 --> 01:10:14,399
Speaker 7: What is that on the back end?

1391
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 3: Dude?

1392
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:15,239
Speaker 7: What do you mean?

1393
01:10:15,239 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 3: Were talking about fifty two million?

1394
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 8: Brother?

1395
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,520
Speaker 3: What's fifty two? What's he getting paid?

1396
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 5: Yo?

1397
01:10:19,119 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 7: Easy?

1398
01:10:20,079 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 3: Well, hey, Terry, he's not making Hey for before you

1399
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,239
even say before you even say it, he's not making

1400
01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:28,159
fifty two million dollars.

1401
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 7: He's making a dollar a minute. It's a big difference.

1402
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,359
Speaker 3: Well, dude, I'm gonna tell you something, brother, You know,

1403
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,239
I kind of I'm not listen. I just want to

1404
01:10:35,279 --> 01:10:36,399
talk to her, you, dude, I just want to talk

1405
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,439
to her with your brother, and I won't let you know, dude,

1406
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,520
that I actually you know, I actually hired the same

1407
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,039
lawyer right as Sid, dude, because I was just kind

1408
01:10:44,039 --> 01:10:46,279
of curious. Brother, I said, what's going on? And he's

1409
01:10:46,319 --> 01:10:48,800
not getting one dollar per minute? He's got one hundred

1410
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,239
dollars per minute, dude, And.

1411
01:10:50,199 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 7: I'm thinking, whole COVID shouldet two hundred.

1412
01:10:52,279 --> 01:10:54,319
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, you know, well, okay, you know, brother, Look,

1413
01:10:54,359 --> 01:10:57,199
I'm Sid, Sid Sid dude. I get it. Sid. You

1414
01:10:57,239 --> 01:10:59,000
know he's made him into wrestle Mania. I've made him

1415
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,079
into WrestleMania. So if we're talking it sins monivated to

1416
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:06,880
WrestleMania's brother, all right, and he's getting one hundred dollars

1417
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:09,279
per minute.

1418
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 7: Tell to tell with his math brother, Let's just cut

1419
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,359
to the chase, heer, dude, all right, let's just get

1420
01:11:14,359 --> 01:11:15,600
to the brass tax of the matter.

1421
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,159
Speaker 3: I think I think when it comes down to a brother,

1422
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:18,640
I think we've got to dial this thing in, dude,

1423
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,560
and I need to be getting one thousand dollars a minute.

1424
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 7: Brother, I'm more I think about it, dude. You know,

1425
01:11:22,079 --> 01:11:23,520
as we go back and forth, he isn't that a

1426
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,359
word as we go back and forth here, Dude, I'm

1427
01:11:25,359 --> 01:11:26,880
thinking able to cut the chase on this thing.

1428
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:27,199
Speaker 9: Brother.

1429
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 7: I think Hulk Hogan needs to sign the first billion

1430
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,680
dollar contract in wrestling history, dude.

1431
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,039
Speaker 3: Brother, what I'm thinking is, dude, you know what, Brother,

1432
01:11:34,199 --> 01:11:35,680
I think we got we got to kind of dial

1433
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,039
it in. Do we gotta kind of get this thing

1434
01:11:37,039 --> 01:11:38,720
back on track? Dude. And I know we've had this

1435
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,000
kind of give and take this whole time.

1436
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:40,239
Speaker 4: Brother.

1437
01:11:40,279 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: I appreciate what you've been saying. I just want to

1438
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,119
say I get it. I get where you're coming from

1439
01:11:44,119 --> 01:11:48,199
from a business standpoint. I get that, dude. I understand

1440
01:11:48,319 --> 01:11:50,960
how you're looking at it as a business. But I'm

1441
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,680
talking about the Hulk Hogan business, brother, And this is

1442
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,880
what I'm trying to get at. I think, dude, when

1443
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,159
push comes to shove, Brother, the people want Hulk Coogan

1444
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:03,680
to sign the first ever ten billion dollar contract.

1445
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,159
Speaker 7: Heck, we can't do ten billion, you know that.

1446
01:12:06,199 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 3: Okay? Fine, people want it, brother. So here's the thing.

1447
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,399
Do you want this company to go out of business, dude?

1448
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,479
Or do you want this company to thrive? I want

1449
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,159
this coming to go out a business, dude. Then fine, don't.

1450
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:18,600
I'm just signed the contract. But if you want this

1451
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,760
business to thrive, I think you better fork over ten

1452
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:21,520
billion dollars?

1453
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 7: And do you want Garrett to go to that private school?

1454
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,079
Speaker 3: Brother? I mean, look, dude, I'm just trying to think

1455
01:12:26,119 --> 01:12:28,279
of your family. Brother. Right, I'm on the board, you know.

1456
01:12:28,319 --> 01:12:30,359
I know you know, dude, you're building. You know, you're

1457
01:12:30,359 --> 01:12:33,239
trying to get that spread out there, and Cody, I

1458
01:12:33,319 --> 01:12:39,039
get it my spread everywhere else I can. I just

1459
01:12:39,079 --> 01:12:41,880
want to let you know, dude, I'm just you know, wait.

1460
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 7: A minute, what brother? What did you I'm putting this

1461
01:12:52,039 --> 01:12:59,920
thing together in my head. Dude, are you right? Instead

1462
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:02,520
of word, what do you promise?

1463
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:03,039
Speaker 3: Sid? Dude?

1464
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 7: Like you you you brushed right past that you didn't

1465
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,640
like you made it seem like you were getting away

1466
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,359
with something like if what I said was true. That's

1467
01:13:13,359 --> 01:13:14,640
only the half of it, dude.

1468
01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 3: Is if you kind of like, if you're willing to

1469
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,760
give me this ten billion dollars brother, yeah, he said

1470
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,000
not so, I don't wonder exactly what did you What

1471
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,640
are you giving Sid? What said? God? Brother?

1472
01:13:24,399 --> 01:13:25,199
Speaker 8: I don't half.

1473
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:27,199
Speaker 3: Where are we at?

1474
01:13:27,279 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 8: Dude?

1475
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:28,199
Speaker 3: Giving him?

1476
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:29,520
Speaker 7: You giving him a push?

1477
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 5: Dude?

1478
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:31,199
Speaker 3: Well, you've been talking to Sid brother.

1479
01:13:32,199 --> 01:13:34,560
Speaker 7: You just said he give him Ellie dollar contract.

1480
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:35,399
Speaker 3: You've been.

1481
01:13:37,039 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 7: After all that he goes. You've been talking to Sid

1482
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,920
brother as if like I didn't actually think you were

1483
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,000
talking to him. I just wanted something to fly off

1484
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,560
the handle about what.

1485
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you Are we talking push dude?

1486
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:58,359
Speaker 7: Right?

1487
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:03,199
Speaker 3: What are we.

1488
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 7: Are we talking? Push?

1489
01:14:06,319 --> 01:14:06,399
Speaker 8: We?

1490
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,119
Speaker 7: Because if that's the case, then we have a whole new.

1491
01:14:12,079 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 3: We're talking dude, we get a whole were talking? You know,

1492
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,319
we got dollars back in again? Brother? Yeah, I need

1493
01:14:18,359 --> 01:14:22,520
ten billion dollars and three push? Right, So what what

1494
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,920
do we are we talking? Torch?

1495
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 7: Just like in ninety when they brought him in a

1496
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,439
ninety one brother, they give the whole Cogan spot I heard.

1497
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 3: Are you talking about? Are you just say if we

1498
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,399
got Hollywood Hulk Coagan? Are you getting like Santa Monica

1499
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:41,079
Sid Vicious?

1500
01:14:45,039 --> 01:14:49,359
Speaker 7: That would explain the Sandals if nothing else. Sid Dude,

1501
01:14:49,399 --> 01:14:51,880
come on in, brother, what's up? Brother? Look, it's been

1502
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,920
so long, I'm so happy or here dude. You know

1503
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,279
I just have to ask. Last time we were in

1504
01:14:55,359 --> 01:14:58,119
the same locker room together, Brother, I couldn't help it

1505
01:14:58,199 --> 01:15:01,560
hearing that you promised the whole Hogan spot. Brother. It's

1506
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,560
crazy how things work out in this world. And you

1507
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,760
know where we come full circle like this. I'm just wondering, dude,

1508
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,159
did you did you ask for something similar to come here?

1509
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: Brother?

1510
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:10,079
Speaker 3: What? What?

1511
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 7: What were the how those discussions go? Dude said, I

1512
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,439
hurt you.

1513
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 3: I just want to know why hurt you? All right?

1514
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,239
Speaker 7: Because I'm standing here, brother, like ten inches away from you.

1515
01:15:28,319 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 3: Dude, you're asking questions about my contract. Is that what

1516
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:36,399
you're doing right now?

1517
01:15:36,399 --> 01:15:38,079
Speaker 7: Oh? Brother? If it's in the contract, I mean I

1518
01:15:38,119 --> 01:15:39,479
think you just told on yourself.

1519
01:15:39,159 --> 01:15:46,079
Speaker 3: What brother, I have said one thing all my.

1520
01:15:46,119 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 7: Life, and that that would be.

1521
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:06,079
Speaker 3: That's sid. Justice is.

1522
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:09,079
Speaker 8: Gonna be all Gogan.

1523
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 7: You've said that your whole life. Call themselves said justice again.

1524
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,279
By the way, anyway, we have some paragraph.

1525
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:26,119
Speaker 3: B paragraph Okay, I guess. By the way, Santa Monica

1526
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,479
Vicious is gonna have to be a thing now today.

1527
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 7: I think so. Yeah. It was a fucking Santa Monica

1528
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,800
Peer six brawl in the hotel in England.

1529
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 3: In connection with Wrestler's performance of the services, Wrestler grants

1530
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:50,079
w CW the following exclusive paid up worldwide ROTS one

1531
01:16:50,319 --> 01:16:55,600
to arrange wrestler's performance or appearance at advance to arrange performance,

1532
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,239
to arrange performance.

1533
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,199
Speaker 7: That's one way to put it.

1534
01:17:00,359 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

1535
01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:02,399
Speaker 7: Exactly?

1536
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 3: What do you what are you ranging for me?

1537
01:17:05,119 --> 01:17:05,279
Speaker 8: Right?

1538
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,359
Speaker 3: Is this? Because I'm not a faithful.

1539
01:17:14,039 --> 01:17:15,399
Speaker 7: See it's a simple.

1540
01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 3: It's real simple game we play. We go round and round,

1541
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,600
and I look at the circle and wonder what is

1542
01:17:29,079 --> 01:17:30,279
the loop about?

1543
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,560
Speaker 7: Two lay, two lawyers enter one, contract leaves.

1544
01:17:34,279 --> 01:17:36,199
Speaker 3: Two lawyers enter.

1545
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 2: One.

1546
01:17:38,399 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 3: SID leaves m H to sell or distribute admission tickets

1547
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:53,279
to all events. Wait? Wait, are you saying I'm a

1548
01:17:53,279 --> 01:17:58,159
ticket teller? Am I working box office? So this is no?

1549
01:17:58,319 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 7: This is this is you granted us these rights to

1550
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:02,000
do it?

1551
01:18:02,079 --> 01:18:04,199
Speaker 3: Not you doing what do you tell me I have?

1552
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,079
Are you obligating me to sit in the box office

1553
01:18:07,079 --> 01:18:07,720
and sell tickets?

1554
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 12: No?

1555
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,279
Speaker 7: No, quite the opposite. This is you giving us the

1556
01:18:11,359 --> 01:18:12,680
exclusive Shut up.

1557
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 3: I want to understand why you think SID is going

1558
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,119
to sell tickets.

1559
01:18:21,279 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 7: It's all of the question. Man, I wonder the same

1560
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,079
thing when I saw the salary lines on this thing.

1561
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:30,479
But I'm just a lawyer, Nick Lambrose.

1562
01:18:30,159 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 3: What gives you the crazy thought that SID is going

1563
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:34,880
to sell a single ticket?

1564
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:40,159
Speaker 7: Sure, yeah, I checked your references. I understand why you'd

1565
01:18:40,199 --> 01:18:40,720
ask us that.

1566
01:18:42,199 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 3: To create, publish, distribute, broadcast, photograph, film, type, or otherwise

1567
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,479
record or author us others to do so in any

1568
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,680
and all available media, any or all of the events

1569
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:03,279
or anime animated programs. Any such creation or recording shall

1570
01:19:03,319 --> 01:19:09,800
be referred to as a program, and for to use, exhibit,

1571
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,920
and distribute into license others to use, exhibit, and distribute

1572
01:19:14,199 --> 01:19:17,479
in perpetuity any program, or any part or segment of

1573
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,880
any program, in any or in all media, and by

1574
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:26,159
any and all methods, whether now knows, whether now known

1575
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:32,560
or coming into existency or after, and in connection therewith

1576
01:19:33,359 --> 01:19:37,000
do you lie and exploit the name image?

1577
01:19:37,239 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 7: You're going to exploit me right my words in the contract.

1578
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:49,560
Speaker 3: I want to understand why you'd exploit said, well, because

1579
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,680
that's the name. I am simply trying to do my

1580
01:19:53,800 --> 01:20:00,720
best by my church. I do that one coming, and

1581
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,000
now you want to exploit everything that I.

1582
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,159
Speaker 7: Am well said. If you put it that way, Jesus Christ,

1583
01:20:06,199 --> 01:20:06,600
I mean.

1584
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you right now, once you look me

1585
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,760
dead in the eye, I want you to understand somebody's

1586
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:22,439
real simple. I am not in the exploitation business. Right,

1587
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:30,000
I don't work pornography. If you go and exploit something,

1588
01:20:30,039 --> 01:20:31,159
you exploit yourself.

1589
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:32,520
Speaker 9: Wow.

1590
01:20:33,239 --> 01:20:35,560
Speaker 3: And if you need to, I will exploit you for

1591
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:43,199
you because I'm a private backer in the exploitation business.

1592
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,920
But I will not be exploited myself.

1593
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:55,119
Speaker 7: Exploit others as they would exploit you. But do it first.

1594
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 3: Image likeness, character, costume, props, ring name, voice, logo, service marks, trademarks,

1595
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:22,000
trade names, signature gimmicks, routines, themes and.

1596
01:21:17,039 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 7: What caricatures caricatures? Yeah, I can say that, again, said.

1597
01:21:24,279 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 3: Right, and any and all other distinctive identifying India as

1598
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,479
used by or associated with Wrestler.

1599
01:21:34,079 --> 01:21:36,520
Speaker 8: He said, my church a case of being sausages.

1600
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 3: And I sent him an autograph picture picture, a picture

1601
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:42,199
of what exactly.

1602
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 7: Let me get into that here in the contract.

1603
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 3: The riots growing up by this section shall be exclusive

1604
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,680
to WW during the term and for the period set

1605
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:55,800
forth in section non B, and shall be non exclusive thereafter.

1606
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,960
Wrestler expressly acknowledges and agrees that the rights granted to

1607
01:22:01,119 --> 01:22:04,840
w CW in Section one B four shall continue in

1608
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:09,119
effect after the expiration, non renewal, or termination for any

1609
01:22:09,159 --> 01:22:12,000
reason of this agreement. Right, I don't allow that.

1610
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,399
Speaker 13: I will not allow myself to be dominated.

1611
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,199
Speaker 7: It looks like you just did said I mean already reason.

1612
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,199
Speaker 3: W CW and Wrestler acknowledge and agree that they have

1613
01:22:27,319 --> 01:22:33,399
entered into that certain merchandise in agreement. Yes, and even

1614
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:39,119
data HEREWI with respect to certain specified merchandise in activity

1615
01:22:39,319 --> 01:22:49,279
WOW number two independent contractor wrestlering the performance of services

1616
01:22:49,279 --> 01:22:54,479
agreeed in this document is an independent contractor. That means

1617
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,199
I don't have to come here at any time. You

1618
01:22:57,279 --> 01:23:01,840
don't call me in, you don't set time. I'm working

1619
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,199
ten hunder nine. My accountant, Kevin Nash, said so right.

1620
01:23:07,359 --> 01:23:10,920
In the performance of this agreement, both WCW and Wrestler

1621
01:23:11,199 --> 01:23:14,159
shall be acting in their own, separate capacities, and not

1622
01:23:14,279 --> 01:23:19,399
as agents, employees, partners, joint venturers, or associates of one another.

1623
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,119
It is expressly understood and agreed that Wrestler is not

1624
01:23:24,199 --> 01:23:28,680
authorized to bind WW to any liability or obligation.

1625
01:23:29,039 --> 01:23:35,199
Speaker 7: What there's the word, he says it obligation. It's in there.

1626
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 3: WW is not authorized to bind me to obligation.

1627
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,239
Speaker 7: It is expressly understood and agreed that Wrestler is not

1628
01:23:44,399 --> 01:23:48,359
authorized to bind WCW to any liability or obligation.

1629
01:23:49,039 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 3: WW doesn't bind meata obligation. Right, you got that backwards.

1630
01:23:54,199 --> 01:23:55,399
You gotta rewrite that shit.

1631
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 7: That's your question. If the wrestler is not authorized to

1632
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,840
bind WCW to any obligation, is w c W authorized

1633
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:04,720
to bind wrestler to any obligation.

1634
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 3: Or to represent that it has any such authority. It's fine,

1635
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:20,920
I won't allow you to obligate me, right, I'm about that.

1636
01:24:22,399 --> 01:24:24,600
Wrestler is responsible for all of his own all of

1637
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:29,399
his expenses, including, without limitation, medical expenses.

1638
01:24:29,279 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 7: That'll come that'll come into.

1639
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure I don't agree to this.

1640
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,239
Speaker 7: What if I snap my leg in half? What if

1641
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:42,359
I snapped my leg in half and it's your fault? Right, Well,

1642
01:24:43,279 --> 01:24:47,319
you say that, I do.

1643
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,560
Speaker 3: I say it's your fault. I say it. I'll say

1644
01:24:51,600 --> 01:25:00,680
it again, it's your fault. Health and welfare, insurance, disability insurance,

1645
01:25:01,039 --> 01:25:05,880
training expenses, props, wardrobe, makeup, and other expenses necessary to

1646
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:11,840
perform the services under this agreement without limiting the generality,

1647
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:16,159
the foregoing wrestler acknowledges that, as between w CW and wrestler,

1648
01:25:16,399 --> 01:25:20,159
wrestler shall be solely responsible libel for the payment of

1649
01:25:20,279 --> 01:25:24,800
any and all withholding or other taxes levied, assessed, or

1650
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,560
do as a resultless services which we are performed by

1651
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:34,720
wrestler under this agreement. Any and all travel incurred by Wrestler,

1652
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,279
and this performance of services here under shall be pursuant

1653
01:25:38,399 --> 01:25:41,840
to w CW's travel policy, as amended by w CW

1654
01:25:42,039 --> 01:25:43,399
from time to time.

1655
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 7: And I love to see a copy of the WCW

1656
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,680
Travel Policy. Please, I need that capital T capital P.

1657
01:25:53,279 --> 01:26:02,159
Speaker 3: Number three. Compensation A as full and complete compensation for

1658
01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:07,119
the services WCW shall pay to wrestler, and wrestler shall

1659
01:26:07,159 --> 01:26:11,119
accept the payments described on Exhibit A attasked here too

1660
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,880
and incorporated herein by reference.

1661
01:26:14,399 --> 01:26:16,560
Speaker 7: We're going to get to Exhibit A once we arrived

1662
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,079
that part of the contract.

1663
01:26:19,319 --> 01:26:19,399
Speaker 8: B.

1664
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 3: Wrestler's compensation is outlining. Exhibit A shall be a proportioned

1665
01:26:24,239 --> 01:26:29,079
according to the falling schedule. Pay perviews forty percent of

1666
01:26:29,119 --> 01:26:35,159
annual compensation, Televised event taped or live twenty five percent

1667
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:42,880
of annual compensation, Non televised house shows twenty percent of

1668
01:26:43,039 --> 01:26:50,720
annual compensation. Interviews, photo shoots, personal appearances fifteen percent of

1669
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:59,000
annual compensation. Wow in the event wrestler fails to timely

1670
01:26:59,039 --> 01:27:04,640
appear and performance required by WSW except by reason of incapacity,

1671
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,199
w W shall have to write to deduct pro ratus

1672
01:27:08,239 --> 01:27:13,279
sums from wrestler's compensation payments based on the foregoing a

1673
01:27:13,399 --> 01:27:20,199
point apportionment divided by ww's reasonable projection of wrestler's number

1674
01:27:20,239 --> 01:27:22,159
of annual appearances in each category.

1675
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 7: Now, I think it might be appropriate to go right

1676
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:31,279
ahead to page sixteen of this document and read Exhibit A.

1677
01:27:31,359 --> 01:27:35,600
While we're on compensation, and we're about to read the

1678
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:42,000
terms explaining and expounding upon this exhibit A marked independent

1679
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,039
contractor agreement for Sydney r ud Aka, said Vicious. Exhibit A.

1680
01:27:45,159 --> 01:27:49,680
Compensation here is ladies and gentlemen. How sid's pay was

1681
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,560
structured in this WCW.

1682
01:27:51,159 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 3: WOW in consideration of wrestlers granted the riots, licenses and

1683
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:01,680
services here under provided wrestler faithfully and fully performs all

1684
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:08,800
of his obligations here Under WSWSHL pay wrestlers follows Year one,

1685
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:13,159
nineteen ninety nine through June eight, two thousand, eight hundred

1686
01:28:13,239 --> 01:28:13,960
thousand dollars.

1687
01:28:14,119 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 7: That's the salary right there.

1688
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,279
Speaker 3: Year two June nine, two thousand through June eight, two

1689
01:28:20,279 --> 01:28:22,880
thousand and one, eight hundred and fifty thousand.

1690
01:28:23,079 --> 01:28:26,039
Speaker 7: I remain obsessed with the fact that WSW contracts signed

1691
01:28:26,039 --> 01:28:30,159
around ninety nine and two thousand extended beyond the existence

1692
01:28:30,159 --> 01:28:30,680
of the company.

1693
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 3: Oh and this one right here, this part, especially because

1694
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,720
this part the contract starts like the year starts and

1695
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,359
ends after the company's done year three June nine, two

1696
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,840
thousand and one to June eight, two thousand and two,

1697
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:46,439
nine hundred thousand dollars.

1698
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 7: So it goes from eight hundred thousand, eight hundred fifty

1699
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,960
thousand and nine hundred thousand dollars guaranteed.

1700
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 3: And he collected what a year in several months.

1701
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,319
Speaker 7: He collected every one of those years. Thank you very much.

1702
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 3: I know I'm saying like he collected a year and

1703
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,039
like three months worth of money.

1704
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,399
Speaker 7: For not doing it for nothing. Yeah that's right. What

1705
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,079
did what did ww F sign everybody right away?

1706
01:29:11,399 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 3: Right? That's why? Yeah, because I don't want to fucking

1707
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,000
work if I don't have to.

1708
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 7: Have a nine hundred thousand dollars kissing the mail on

1709
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,000
the way right exactly.

1710
01:29:19,119 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the fine. I wouldn't do it.

1711
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 7: Either, cash that motherfucker an.

1712
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 3: Audition in the event wrestler appears and performs on air

1713
01:29:27,279 --> 01:29:32,000
at So that's not that's his base. Salary's base.

1714
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 7: Yep, g get to the bonuses, right, I mean that's

1715
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:40,479
chump change.

1716
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 3: Holy shit.

1717
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 7: And now we're getting to why you know Sid put

1718
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,520
it all together and saw one point five million a year.

1719
01:29:50,039 --> 01:29:52,239
Speaker 3: It's an addition in the in the event wrestler appears

1720
01:29:52,239 --> 01:29:54,560
and performs on air at any ww pay per view

1721
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,640
event as instructed by WSW during the term WWS shall

1722
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:03,079
pay wrestler pay per view onuses follows. Year one fifty

1723
01:30:03,159 --> 01:30:08,000
thousand dollars per pay perview event. Pretty sweet, Year two

1724
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:12,279
fifty five thousand dollars per pay per view event. Year

1725
01:30:12,359 --> 01:30:15,399
three sixty thousand dollars per pay perview vent.

1726
01:30:18,159 --> 01:30:21,399
Speaker 7: Jesus So no percentage like Hogan where he gets a

1727
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,039
certain amount of the pay per view haul. He just

1728
01:30:23,039 --> 01:30:25,319
gets a flat amount. But yeah, you know, you take

1729
01:30:25,399 --> 01:30:29,279
nine hundred thousand in year three and sixty thousand per

1730
01:30:29,279 --> 01:30:31,359
pay per view event. You know, two or three pay

1731
01:30:31,399 --> 01:30:33,960
per views. He might even he might haven't clear two

1732
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:34,880
million if he has a.

1733
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, I mean, how many was he in between

1734
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:39,640
ninety nine and two thousand?

1735
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 7: I don't know, probably six.

1736
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 3: I mean he breaks he breaks a million right there? Yep,

1737
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:51,439
you know Jesus wrestlers shall be paid for a minimum

1738
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:56,039
of eight paid wow minimum, So he made he does

1739
01:30:56,079 --> 01:30:57,920
eight automatically, he does eight and guess what if he

1740
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:03,239
does seven, he still gets paid for eight. So wait

1741
01:31:03,279 --> 01:31:07,560
a minute, So he got paid for pay per views

1742
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:12,479
even though the company was under.

1743
01:31:14,039 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 7: Yes, and you remember that's why they tried to get

1744
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:24,600
Hogan on Greed. They offered him. They told him to

1745
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:27,159
show up at Greed because then they didn't think they'd

1746
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:28,920
have to pay him because he refused to appear.

1747
01:31:31,279 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 3: No, brother, and we got fine line, dude, right, fine.

1748
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,319
Speaker 7: Print, because I don't think he had a minimum like

1749
01:31:38,319 --> 01:31:40,560
this here. I don't think he did. I think it

1750
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,199
was sort of like, yeah, there was, I mean we

1751
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,079
went through it all. It's on the archives. But it

1752
01:31:46,119 --> 01:31:51,119
was some kind of deal where like he actually had

1753
01:31:51,159 --> 01:31:55,319
to like perform, he couldn't. He wouldn't just be paid. Uh,

1754
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,119
he would be paid if he didn't.

1755
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,119
Speaker 3: Want to be. No, No, he had to be the featured

1756
01:31:59,359 --> 01:32:03,399
performer the feature program and now it's his match or

1757
01:32:03,399 --> 01:32:03,880
something like that.

1758
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, feature performers. Where was he and That's that was

1759
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:09,239
his pushback, like, like, you just can't just tell me

1760
01:32:09,319 --> 01:32:10,760
to show up at a pay per view and expect

1761
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,720
that to satisfy the contractual term, Like there needs to

1762
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,399
be something put in place that makes it clear that

1763
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,640
I'm the future performer. Otherwise that part of the contract

1764
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,399
doesn't count. I'll and void, brother, And that's why he

1765
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,560
cash those one million dollar checks even after he was

1766
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,479
court is totally gone. Of course he did under a

1767
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,760
contract that he was arguing in civil court was invalid.

1768
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,840
Of course those parts were valid. The rest of it wasn't.

1769
01:32:31,159 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 3: Of course, Listen, I choose validity.

1770
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 7: It's been invalidated.

1771
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 3: Yes, I choose the validity that is required for my

1772
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:40,600
own validation.

1773
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 7: Well, then mister Hogan, we can go ahead and process this.

1774
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:48,600
Speaker 3: Check for you. Then this agreement shall commence as of

1775
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,680
June not none nine, and shall continue until June eight,

1776
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:56,159
two thousand and two. Travel when required to travel for

1777
01:32:56,319 --> 01:33:00,000
WW business. WW shall provide wrestler with a rental car, hotel,

1778
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:03,960
tell accommodations. And so what the fuck was that whole

1779
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:09,640
thing in the early part of of of how he

1780
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:11,640
had to pay for his own travel and all that shit.

1781
01:33:12,079 --> 01:33:13,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know why that's in there.

1782
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a writer obviously, this part is

1783
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:16,680
a writer here, so.

1784
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 7: This supplies only to said, whereas the rest is probably

1785
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:19,560
boiler played language.

1786
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 3: It's right.

1787
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's pretty crazy because I mean maybe a lot

1788
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:25,880
of guys had this deal. But you know, that's the

1789
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,199
whole wrestler thing is like we don't, we don't have

1790
01:33:28,239 --> 01:33:31,319
these expenses covered, but here it is. Of course they did,

1791
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:32,640
at least he did.

1792
01:33:34,279 --> 01:33:39,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's absurd. First class air yep, Well he used

1793
01:33:39,359 --> 01:33:39,840
the leg room.

1794
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 7: You know, it's fair.

1795
01:33:43,159 --> 01:33:50,039
Speaker 3: He's you know, he's a big guy. Special provisions, so

1796
01:33:50,039 --> 01:33:50,960
these aren't special enough.

1797
01:33:51,359 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 7: Put home based Memphis, Tennessee, by the way in the contract,

1798
01:33:55,359 --> 01:33:56,560
so that he doesn't trust.

1799
01:33:56,279 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 3: You, well until yes, when my churches that's where my god.

1800
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 7: Is right presumably, so he doesn't try to move after

1801
01:34:02,039 --> 01:34:04,279
the contract and cost them three times more in airfare

1802
01:34:04,359 --> 01:34:05,680
than they we're expecting.

1803
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you never know. Special provisions. Wrestlers shall not be

1804
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,359
required to perform the services here. Oh my god, Oh

1805
01:34:14,399 --> 01:34:21,600
my goodness. Wrestlers shall not be required to perform services

1806
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,560
here under an exist of one hundred and eighty days

1807
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:29,159
per contractual year, exclusive of travel and.

1808
01:34:29,119 --> 01:34:32,039
Speaker 7: Then they have his address and his Social Security numbers,

1809
01:34:32,239 --> 01:34:35,520
which we don't need to share. Signed Sydney kue is

1810
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,399
Sydney r Udi and I believe that's Eric Bishov's signature.

1811
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 3: It looks like an S to me, but whatever it does.

1812
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:47,079
So wait a minute, wait a minute. So really, so

1813
01:34:47,319 --> 01:34:50,960
all this shit up here, he gets paid all this

1814
01:34:51,199 --> 01:34:56,760
nonsensical money for working six months.

1815
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, well you about in June, like how it's June

1816
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:03,920
to December.

1817
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm talking about how I'm talking about how it's

1818
01:35:07,119 --> 01:35:09,880
June to June. But he only has to work one

1819
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,920
hundred eight days instead of three hundred and sixty five like.

1820
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 7: He well three and sixty guy would be Yeah, they didn't.

1821
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,199
Speaker 3: Have Well I know, I know they I mean listen,

1822
01:35:17,199 --> 01:35:22,880
I know I get that. But still like that's he

1823
01:35:23,039 --> 01:35:26,800
is not required to perform beyond one hundred and eighty days.

1824
01:35:27,359 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 7: No, there's probably not many. That's probably how many shows

1825
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:33,119
they had. Honestly, they probably didn't have any. They probably

1826
01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:35,159
have one hundred and eighty. They probably had less honestly

1827
01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:37,039
by then because they cut down have shows so much

1828
01:35:39,119 --> 01:35:43,199
TV taping by then, well they were still taping Thunder separately.

1829
01:35:43,279 --> 01:35:46,399
But at a certain point in two thousand they switched

1830
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,439
to taping Thunder the same night as Nitro. But you know,

1831
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,479
one pay per view a month. So yeah, that's part

1832
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,079
of the reason. That's part of the appeal to going

1833
01:35:55,079 --> 01:35:57,159
to WCW was they weren't on the road three hundred

1834
01:35:57,199 --> 01:35:59,920
days a year. You know, last.

1835
01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:16,079
Speaker 1: Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys need

1836
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:34,199
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1837
01:36:34,279 --> 01:36:38,520
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1838
01:36:39,119 --> 01:36:41,399
Speaker 7: So we go back to where we started to reference

1839
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,119
the schedule A and the compensation part of the agreement.

1840
01:36:45,159 --> 01:36:49,319
I believe that would be page four right, Mumm and

1841
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,960
wrestler fatals to appear. After they do the breakdown of

1842
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,039
forty percent pay per view, twenty five percent annual. I

1843
01:36:56,039 --> 01:36:58,479
don't understand, like why that's even in there, honestly, Like.

1844
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 3: Well, that's just gonna be again, that's just gonna be

1845
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,000
for bait. This is your base caught. You know, this

1846
01:37:04,079 --> 01:37:08,039
is not a specific contract, it's a base contract. And

1847
01:37:08,039 --> 01:37:10,199
then the writer at the end, I.

1848
01:37:10,199 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 7: Should un't say why they have to set out like

1849
01:37:12,039 --> 01:37:13,600
that forty percent of his pay has to be from

1850
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:14,119
pay per view.

1851
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 3: Well, it's everybody. Yeah, it's everybody, and chances are other

1852
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:23,800
people like HUV and Kude. Guerrera is not getting a

1853
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:24,560
rider at the end.

1854
01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 7: You know that's true, But like everyone's going to be

1855
01:37:28,039 --> 01:37:30,600
a pay per view, so that how would you give

1856
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,039
some guy, some guy who's never in pay per view

1857
01:37:32,079 --> 01:37:34,439
a contract that says forty percent of annual compensation is

1858
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:35,239
going to be pay per view.

1859
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 3: No, maybe that's the point. Maybe you don't get compensated

1860
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,279
for pay per views or not on, but.

1861
01:37:40,319 --> 01:37:42,199
Speaker 7: That it's not forty percent of your pay, that's for sure.

1862
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 3: No, I don't know.

1863
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:45,039
Speaker 7: I don't know. So weird. I don't know why those

1864
01:37:45,039 --> 01:37:46,239
percentages are in there. I don't get it.

1865
01:37:46,279 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 3: Let's just pay the people, Like what is it?

1866
01:37:48,119 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 7: Why does it matter how much each little piece of

1867
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,960
the each category of payment accounts for the whole pie.

1868
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:55,039
I don't get why that's important.

1869
01:37:55,119 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It is kind of weird. I mean,

1870
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,600
especially like especially for sid when he's getting paid a

1871
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,039
few bonuses anyway.

1872
01:38:05,239 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and exactly like you said, the writer sets

1873
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:09,800
in much more clear terms. But I don't even get

1874
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:13,239
why that's boiler plate language, like, oh you pay me

1875
01:38:13,239 --> 01:38:15,079
what you pay me, and that's that, Like, why does

1876
01:38:15,119 --> 01:38:17,560
it matter how much of it is pay per view?

1877
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:25,199
Speaker 3: Is it is strange? I mean I.

1878
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:30,560
Speaker 7: Maybe because maybe because they could go beyond the eight

1879
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:32,279
Oh I.

1880
01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:35,159
Speaker 3: Bet I know why. I bet I know why. This

1881
01:38:35,319 --> 01:38:40,000
is why because your your paycheck is not going to

1882
01:38:40,079 --> 01:38:45,720
be maybe your paycheck is different if like you know,

1883
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,000
on say, I don't know how often they got paid.

1884
01:38:48,039 --> 01:38:49,600
I don't know what their pay schedule was, but if

1885
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:53,960
you're paid every two weeks, maybe on you know, weeks

1886
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,720
that are maybe like the two weeks that you don't

1887
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:02,640
have a pay per view, you're not gonna get much money. Okay,

1888
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,039
maybe yep, And maybe when you do a pay per

1889
01:39:05,119 --> 01:39:07,840
view you get more money. God it hit me the

1890
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:08,840
fucking accountant for that.

1891
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 7: But well, yeah, you get well, at least as far

1892
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,439
as since contract is structured, you get paid, you know,

1893
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,359
over fifty two weeks, you get nine hundred thousand in

1894
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,399
year three and then on top of that, in certain

1895
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:18,359
periods you'd get.

1896
01:39:18,399 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 3: But I mean, yes, he does. But what if are

1897
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:22,880
they going to distribute that in different ways? Like are

1898
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,319
they going to say, hey, you know, we don't pay

1899
01:39:25,359 --> 01:39:29,239
you on you know, we don't pay you everything on

1900
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:31,439
weeks where there are no.

1901
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,560
Speaker 7: You know, but that would make sense. Actually no, I

1902
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:37,279
think they just get there. They get their salary like

1903
01:39:37,319 --> 01:39:41,239
anybody else would, and even increments every two weeks. Yeah, yeah,

1904
01:39:41,239 --> 01:39:43,119
and then you get like an extra thing on there

1905
01:39:43,159 --> 01:39:45,239
for the pay per view. But what I think maybe

1906
01:39:45,279 --> 01:39:46,880
the forty percent is maybe because you know, like it

1907
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,720
says minimum eight, like if they if they gave him twelve,

1908
01:39:50,199 --> 01:39:54,439
then perhaps the pay per view slug of his earnings

1909
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:55,720
would be more than forty percent.

1910
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:56,319
Speaker 3: Hmmm.

1911
01:39:57,079 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 7: And maybe that this is a way to control that,

1912
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,319
like putting him on every pay per view, like maybe

1913
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:07,199
in in relation to his salary. I don't know. I

1914
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,039
still I still quite get why that has to be

1915
01:40:09,039 --> 01:40:11,279
in there. But that's one thing that occurred to me.

1916
01:40:14,119 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe it is a maybe it is a

1917
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:21,319
way you know what I bet this is what I'll

1918
01:40:21,319 --> 01:40:28,439
tell you what it is. It's so people can't say, well,

1919
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,960
I did this, you know, I did this interview, photo shooting,

1920
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:33,800
person appearances. Why am I going to pay extra for that? Well,

1921
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,800
it's fifteen percent of what you get is from that,

1922
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:40,079
Yeah I did, I did like twelve house shows. Why

1923
01:40:40,079 --> 01:40:41,680
am I going to paid extra for that well, because

1924
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,039
it's part of your thing here, see twenty percent of

1925
01:40:44,079 --> 01:40:47,439
your pay. That that to me is the way way

1926
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:51,319
it makes it basically, can't put the ceiling on it, right.

1927
01:40:51,359 --> 01:40:55,000
People can't come and ask more like, we've already included

1928
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,960
that in part of your pay. It's not extra because

1929
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:01,399
we've included it, even though you've done such and such.

1930
01:41:03,239 --> 01:41:07,560
That's where you get. You know, I don't know one

1931
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,079
of our lawyers will say something.

1932
01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:11,319
Speaker 7: But probably yeah, yeah, I think of that as more

1933
01:41:11,359 --> 01:41:13,800
of a gating factor kind of like like we're saying

1934
01:41:14,319 --> 01:41:18,800
where you know, it's it cuts both ways, Like the

1935
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:20,640
guy can't ask for all this extra money for all

1936
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:24,000
this extra work, and they can't really demand it one either.

1937
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:26,720
It's like only fifteen percent of my pay can be

1938
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:28,279
all these interviews in photo shoots.

1939
01:41:28,319 --> 01:41:30,199
Speaker 3: But again, I'm looking at this, I'm looking at this.

1940
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:34,600
I actually don't think of this as being now that

1941
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:38,039
we've read the writer, like in a weird way, all

1942
01:41:38,079 --> 01:41:39,239
of this is null and void.

1943
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, it just doesn't apply.

1944
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:43,600
Speaker 3: It doesn't. But it's like they have to use their

1945
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:46,239
base contract and then the rider comes into play for

1946
01:41:46,279 --> 01:41:49,319
the individuals. Yeah, for sure, for sure you know, like again,

1947
01:41:49,359 --> 01:41:52,520
this is what they'd give some fucking you know, this

1948
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:54,600
is like what they gave Raymisterio in ninety six when

1949
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:56,840
he came in. Yeah, like here, you know, listen, this

1950
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:00,640
is what you get. No rider, you know, he's an idiot,

1951
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:04,439
doesn't fucking ask for anything else, and so he gets

1952
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:05,680
in a weird way.

1953
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 7: Jypped, I know what you mean. I think this is

1954
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:12,159
probably this is probably a version of a boilerplate contract,

1955
01:42:12,159 --> 01:42:14,239
that is, for people that they actually plan on featuring

1956
01:42:14,239 --> 01:42:15,840
and putting on pay per view. I don't think they

1957
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:17,399
would give this to a guy that they would never

1958
01:42:17,399 --> 01:42:18,880
put on pay per view. Like I don't think Landy

1959
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,880
Pofo had forty percent of his annual compensation comes from

1960
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:23,640
pay per views. That doesn't even make any sense.

1961
01:42:24,039 --> 01:42:25,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, but.

1962
01:42:25,119 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 7: This is it to me. This is just like a

1963
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:31,199
way to This is a way to keep under control

1964
01:42:31,319 --> 01:42:34,239
the amount of each category that can foist on the guy.

1965
01:42:35,079 --> 01:42:46,560
Speaker 14: Yeah you know, yeah, Parada read that parts those those

1966
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:47,760
nditions be rather.

1967
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 7: Just pick it up after the after those percentages on

1968
01:42:54,039 --> 01:42:55,960
page page four.

1969
01:42:56,159 --> 01:42:58,399
Speaker 3: I read that part. Though I heard part of that

1970
01:43:00,199 --> 01:43:04,000
I can read again. In the event wrestler fails to

1971
01:43:04,119 --> 01:43:08,119
timely appear in performance required by WCW, except by reason

1972
01:43:08,119 --> 01:43:11,800
of incapacity. WCW shall have the right to deduct pro

1973
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:16,960
rated sums from wrestlers compensation payments based on the foregoing

1974
01:43:17,039 --> 01:43:23,159
appointment apportionment, divided by w CW's reasonable projection of wrestler's

1975
01:43:23,199 --> 01:43:26,880
number of annual appearances in each category. In the event

1976
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:30,760
wrestler's unable to perform due to incapacity as defined below,

1977
01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:35,680
the terms of Section eight shall apply this right. WCW

1978
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,640
shall be at addition to every other remedy now or

1979
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:43,600
later existing at law or in equity, and shall not

1980
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:45,920
in any way interfere with any rights on the part

1981
01:43:46,199 --> 01:43:51,000
of WCW to enjoin wrestler from any violation of disagreement

1982
01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:57,399
or any part thereof. Notwithstanding any reduction or deduction of

1983
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:02,319
compensation payments pursued to this section, all remaining terms and

1984
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:06,399
conditions of this agreement shell continue in full force and

1985
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:11,079
effect unless and until terminated pursuant to the terms of.

1986
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 7: This agreement, so he fails to appear as required unless

1987
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:18,880
he's incapacitated, WCW can take can take away pro rated

1988
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:23,000
sums from his payment based on the foregoing apportionment divided

1989
01:44:23,039 --> 01:44:25,319
by w w's revisional projection of wrestler's number of ango

1990
01:44:25,319 --> 01:44:27,840
appearances in each category. So this is this is further

1991
01:44:28,039 --> 01:44:30,359
like explaining why those forty percent pay per view and

1992
01:44:30,359 --> 01:44:32,039
all those numbers we just talked about are in there.

1993
01:44:32,319 --> 01:44:35,000
It's giving them kind of like a guide to use

1994
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:36,720
when they want a deduct pay.

1995
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,359
Speaker 3: Except again, this is again, this is like where you're

1996
01:44:40,399 --> 01:44:43,960
talking about kind of a basic contract because all this

1997
01:44:44,079 --> 01:44:46,680
is not on void. Yeah, based on the writer, I

1998
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:50,960
think so he's not deducted anything, yeah, at all for

1999
01:44:51,039 --> 01:44:53,600
missing things. He's guaranteed money no matter what he does.

2000
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:57,359
Speaker 7: I've been him a mate, Yeah, yep, yep. But I

2001
01:44:57,359 --> 01:45:01,520
think I think they are saying like, we could not

2002
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:05,239
pay you for a ninth if you're incapacitated. That's kind

2003
01:45:05,239 --> 01:45:06,800
of how I read it. Like it's still it's still

2004
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:08,760
in here for a reason. It's not totally null and void,

2005
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,399
but it applies after all the guarantees are set and then.

2006
01:45:12,359 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so.

2007
01:45:13,119 --> 01:45:13,279
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2008
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:20,039
Speaker 3: See, notwithstanding the foregoing apportionment for general payment purposes, Wrestler's

2009
01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:24,239
compensation shall be payable in equal installments on a twice

2010
01:45:24,279 --> 01:45:28,479
a month basis. Or basin such schedule as WSW may

2011
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:29,800
implement from time to time.

2012
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:33,079
Speaker 7: There's there's where the paychecks come in. Twice a month, Yeah,

2013
01:45:33,119 --> 01:45:39,800
twice a month. For ownership of work product, all work product.

2014
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:40,359
Speaker 3: Work product.

2015
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:42,239
Speaker 7: Say that again?

2016
01:45:42,399 --> 01:45:45,239
Speaker 3: Oh my god. It sounds like, you know, like you

2017
01:45:45,319 --> 01:45:48,039
buy like a craft cheese and it says artificial cheese product.

2018
01:45:48,319 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 7: I know, well, not too far off.

2019
01:45:51,399 --> 01:45:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably true. I guess you could definitely say

2020
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:59,920
this is artificial cheese product. All work product themes, routines, characters, storylines,

2021
01:46:00,079 --> 01:46:07,279
property data, documentation or information of materials conceived, discovered, developed,

2022
01:46:07,359 --> 01:46:11,560
or created by wrestler pursuit disagreement, including without limitation, the

2023
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:16,399
programs collectively, the work product shall be owned exclusively by

2024
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:20,399
WCW to the greatest extent possible. Any work product shall

2025
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:22,960
be deemed to be work made for hire.

2026
01:46:24,399 --> 01:46:24,600
Speaker 8: Ah.

2027
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, as I find the Copyright Act and owned exclusively

2028
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:37,359
by WCW, wrestler herebys unconditionally, A revocably transferms and assigns

2029
01:46:37,359 --> 01:46:43,279
a WCW all rights title interest in or any or

2030
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:53,800
any work product, including without limitation, all patents, copyrights, trade secrets, trademarks,

2031
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:59,520
service marks, service marks. They're like a guy fucking delivering

2032
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:09,239
me food and other intellectual What happens my viennus? I

2033
01:47:09,319 --> 01:47:11,159
need to know exactly what happens to my venus.

2034
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,239
Speaker 9: There's something missing from this contract.

2035
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:16,760
Speaker 3: My viennas are not owned by WSW.

2036
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,680
Speaker 5: He sent my church in case of Vienna sausages, and

2037
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,359
I sent him an autograph picture.

2038
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,199
Speaker 3: Ooh oh, coach, so cool?

2039
01:47:33,159 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 7: I know where do I get out of that action.

2040
01:47:35,119 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 3: Sid Jesus Wrestler has previously developed and represents the WSW

2041
01:47:45,039 --> 01:47:48,039
that he is the sole owner of the fallen ring names,

2042
01:47:48,279 --> 01:47:51,479
stage names or nicknames in connection with the provision of

2043
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:58,279
professional wrestling services Sid Vicious. Doesn't the rocker own that name?

2044
01:47:59,199 --> 01:48:01,279
I guess Russian wrestling services?

2045
01:48:01,359 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 7: I guess, which is weird because he has to own

2046
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,359
that to work for you, Like, what if he doesn't

2047
01:48:06,359 --> 01:48:08,119
own it? Who cares?

2048
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2049
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 7: Right, that's a term of the contract that you have

2050
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:17,279
to own your wrestling name. I've never heard of that. Well,

2051
01:48:17,279 --> 01:48:20,319
maybe because it's previously developed. They do say that in

2052
01:48:20,359 --> 01:48:23,239
the contract. Yeah, I get that. I think probably what

2053
01:48:23,279 --> 01:48:26,119
it is is if someone sues us for calling you

2054
01:48:26,159 --> 01:48:29,920
Sid Vicious on TV, it's on you, not us, because

2055
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:32,680
we told you that in exchange for this contract, you're

2056
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:33,479
representing that you have.

2057
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:37,039
Speaker 3: The rights to use the name Yeah. Wrestler here by

2058
01:48:37,159 --> 01:48:41,239
licenses WW to use and exploit any in all of

2059
01:48:41,279 --> 01:48:45,800
the wrestler's names, exclusively during the term for all purposes

2060
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:50,359
here under, and non exclusively thereafter in connection with ww's

2061
01:48:50,359 --> 01:48:56,079
exploitation or use the programs. Wrestler grees is that any

2062
01:48:56,159 --> 01:49:01,039
ring named, nicknamed, persona, logo, or character developed by him

2063
01:49:01,399 --> 01:49:04,760
and on WCW during the term, and used by him

2064
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:08,239
in connection with performance of the services, shall be part

2065
01:49:08,279 --> 01:49:12,039
of the work product and shall be the exclusive property

2066
01:49:12,319 --> 01:49:16,920
of WCW. W CW shall have the right to register

2067
01:49:17,239 --> 01:49:20,640
any such name, nickname, or logo as a trademark or

2068
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:25,880
service market WCW to the extent WCW considers such registration

2069
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:30,800
to be permitted and appropriate under any applicable law. Without

2070
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:36,920
regard to any such registration, Wrestler here by covenants that

2071
01:49:37,039 --> 01:49:41,960
he shall not use any such ring, name, nickname, persona, logo,

2072
01:49:42,399 --> 01:49:45,279
or character developed during the term for any purpose at

2073
01:49:45,279 --> 01:49:48,399
any time in propuity produity.

2074
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:55,039
Speaker 7: Huh, you said it just like he would.

2075
01:49:55,359 --> 01:49:55,399
Speaker 5: No.

2076
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:04,079
Speaker 3: Well, the express consent w W. Wrestler agrees to execute and

2077
01:50:04,159 --> 01:50:12,680
deliver ws W all male packages, all Vienna's, all Vienna packages.

2078
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:16,319
I will not you put down a FRANKO, deliver those

2079
01:50:16,359 --> 01:50:25,840
fucking viennas. Fike, Yeah, Ed, I wonder how many times

2080
01:50:26,239 --> 01:50:31,000
why don't you listen to me? I've called your name

2081
01:50:31,079 --> 01:50:34,560
eighteen times and you just sat there sleeping like a bitch.

2082
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:36,039
Speaker 9: Did you deliver the venas?

2083
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,279
Speaker 3: I need to know right now, and I'm gonna ask

2084
01:50:39,319 --> 01:50:44,960
you something. It's real simple, right, It's so simple it's

2085
01:50:45,039 --> 01:50:47,399
gonna hit you in the head like a shot. Look

2086
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:50,760
at your father. I want you turn around your bed.

2087
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:57,079
I won't look you didn'ty I, And I want to

2088
01:50:57,079 --> 01:51:06,640
know did you you deliver the Venus sausages? I want

2089
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:09,640
you to lie to me. I know if you're lying.

2090
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:17,239
Did you deliver the viennas?

2091
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,279
Speaker 9: Because if you didn't, Frank, there's gonna be an awful

2092
01:51:20,319 --> 01:51:24,720
lot a back of crackers by water moon by or

2093
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,359
oat mail bi extremes unwillingly.

2094
01:51:28,119 --> 01:51:32,079
Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna tell you right now, if you do

2095
01:51:32,199 --> 01:51:37,640
not deliver the viennas, then I cannot bark the car

2096
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:42,079
in the garage and I won't kill you.

2097
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:44,319
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm.

2098
01:51:47,359 --> 01:51:55,239
Speaker 3: I need to bark the car in the garage those

2099
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:01,119
without regard to any such registration. Oh no, I did.

2100
01:52:01,159 --> 01:52:06,600
I was reading something about deliverance. Where's the delivering thing?

2101
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:24,039
The covenants are at that bottom of product is not

2102
01:52:24,119 --> 01:52:30,399
considered to be work made for hire wrestler agrees to

2103
01:52:30,399 --> 01:52:34,640
execute and delivered w W any transfers, assignments, documents, or

2104
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:39,319
other instruments which you may deem necessary or appropriate from

2105
01:52:39,359 --> 01:52:46,880
time to time to best to vest, to vest, is

2106
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:49,880
that what that is? What page are you on? I'm

2107
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:56,000
on five five lines from from the bottom.

2108
01:52:56,359 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 7: Let's see.

2109
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, from time to time. To vest complete?

2110
01:53:00,359 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, vest is to like give someone something, to give

2111
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,920
it over to them. Okay, I vest in you the power,

2112
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:09,039
the power vested in me.

2113
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:13,520
Speaker 3: Vest complete title and ownership of any work product and

2114
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:18,520
ill associated intellectual property and other riots exclusively in w

2115
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:19,000
c W.

2116
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:21,520
Speaker 7: Now when they say they want a VEST complete title,

2117
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:23,800
does that mean that this my black leather vest.

2118
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:29,279
Speaker 3: Now we're talking when you when you say vest complete title,

2119
01:53:29,279 --> 01:53:32,680
dos that mean that I get the entire title belt

2120
01:53:35,399 --> 01:53:40,960
leather vest including you want my vest?

2121
01:53:41,079 --> 01:53:41,520
Speaker 8: Is it it?

2122
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 3: I need? I need the language to be ironed out here.

2123
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:49,079
Speaker 7: I also need my vest to be ironed out here.

2124
01:53:50,199 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 3: I also need my dry cleaning ironed. I need my

2125
01:53:54,159 --> 01:53:55,039
underwear ironed.

2126
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:59,199
Speaker 7: Oh my god. That said, like the company shall arrange

2127
01:53:59,239 --> 01:54:06,279
for hotel air transportation, first class air, and laundry services.

2128
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:08,159
Speaker 3: Specifically, I like my underwear.

2129
01:54:08,199 --> 01:54:10,560
Speaker 7: Are guys, we don't want this guy wandering the hallways

2130
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:12,520
of his hotel looking for a water dryer.

2131
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:16,119
Speaker 3: Okay, let's still have no problem walking around hotels with

2132
01:54:16,159 --> 01:54:20,000
my with no pants. Clearly a right, my fucking cock

2133
01:54:20,079 --> 01:54:23,880
dangling out looking for someone to iron my fucking shorts.

2134
01:54:24,279 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 7: Where's my cut? Part of the pun?

2135
01:54:30,319 --> 01:54:35,079
Speaker 3: Uh if such work products is not considered to be

2136
01:54:35,159 --> 01:54:39,399
a work made for her wrestler hereby signs of WW

2137
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:44,119
for one dollar in hand and other good and valuable

2138
01:54:44,119 --> 01:54:50,079
considerational riots, title and interest in into the copyright thereof,

2139
01:54:50,399 --> 01:54:54,560
and all renews and extensions thereof that may be secured

2140
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:58,399
under the laws of any country now or hereafter enforce

2141
01:54:58,479 --> 01:54:59,039
and effect.

2142
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 15: Now, guys, I'm going to talk about a contract term wrestler.

2143
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:06,239
Here about a sign to WCW for one dollar in hand,

2144
01:55:06,279 --> 01:55:09,840
another good infallible consideration, all rights, title, and interest. Instead

2145
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:14,199
of SID assigning all those rights WW for one dollar,

2146
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,079
can we change the one dollar to two hundred and

2147
01:55:17,119 --> 01:55:18,199
fifty million.

2148
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:22,119
Speaker 3: Dollars I like to have here, he s, a WW

2149
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:26,239
offers me two hundred and fifty million dollars each month.

2150
01:55:26,439 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 7: He crosses out the one dollar and writes two hundred

2151
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,079
and fifty million above it, to see if they'll accept

2152
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:35,000
per month. That's a way to sneak the biggest slug

2153
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:35,960
of the contract in there.

2154
01:55:36,359 --> 01:55:38,399
Speaker 3: You imagine they fucking signed that, didn't even fucking read

2155
01:55:38,399 --> 01:55:40,760
it over. Yeah, sure, say whatever you say initial hear

2156
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:46,199
pal in an other good and valuable consideration, all rights, title,

2157
01:55:46,239 --> 01:55:49,600
and interest into the copyright thereof, and all the news

2158
01:55:50,199 --> 01:55:52,039
I say, I read that already they're able to work.

2159
01:55:52,079 --> 01:55:59,039
Disagreement number five. Compliance with Laws, rules and Regulations. A

2160
01:55:59,119 --> 01:56:03,760
wrests agrees to comply with all applicable policies, rules, procedures,

2161
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:08,199
and regulations adopted from time to time. Now, we don't

2162
01:56:08,279 --> 01:56:12,359
necessarily all have rules all the time, but from time

2163
01:56:12,399 --> 01:56:17,920
to time we do rules and policies.

2164
01:56:18,279 --> 01:56:24,079
Speaker 10: Colonel Parker, right this, I said, Well, don't always have

2165
01:56:24,479 --> 01:56:29,920
rules all the time, but sometimes we adopt them, rules

2166
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,520
and procedures from time to time.

2167
01:56:33,319 --> 01:56:34,439
Speaker 2: Well, time and time.

2168
01:56:35,319 --> 01:56:39,199
Speaker 10: It's not all the time, it's from time to time

2169
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:41,279
I fuck it.

2170
01:56:43,399 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 2: I gotta take a ship.

2171
01:56:45,359 --> 01:56:52,079
Speaker 7: I fuck it. He said, I fuck it? Oh you do? Huh?

2172
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 2: All right? You know ship? Sometimes my balls just hanging out.

2173
01:57:00,359 --> 01:57:02,520
I asked my dad. I said, Dad, why to have

2174
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,079
my balls out?

2175
01:57:08,039 --> 01:57:12,279
Speaker 7: I saw that war games too, Rob. I asked my dad,

2176
01:57:12,319 --> 01:57:14,920
I said, Dad, why are my balls hanging out?

2177
01:57:18,399 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 2: He looked me with a funny face and just burnt

2178
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:21,520
and said.

2179
01:57:21,359 --> 01:57:29,199
Speaker 7: Fuck it. So my daddy said, right, I'll see he

2180
01:57:29,239 --> 01:57:31,439
was he was trimming his beard.

2181
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 3: He was.

2182
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 2: She's out there with decisions, just trimming his damn bead,

2183
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:36,840
is it?

2184
01:57:38,119 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 4: And Rob?

2185
01:57:39,479 --> 01:57:41,239
Speaker 3: And he's trimming his beard?

2186
01:57:41,359 --> 01:57:45,039
Speaker 10: And Rob, just put your fucking balls back in your

2187
01:57:45,039 --> 01:57:50,199
paint his balls or I'm gonna cut him off with decisions.

2188
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 7: Not the rest of the balls. That is funny, Like

2189
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,279
someone a guy like his zippers opened, his flies open

2190
01:57:56,279 --> 01:57:58,039
and his balls were hanging out, but not his dick.

2191
01:58:02,439 --> 01:58:08,560
That's a sight to behold, just like.

2192
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:10,119
Speaker 2: The same way as you goddamn car.

2193
01:58:12,279 --> 01:58:14,279
Speaker 7: Just his balls resting on Khaki.

2194
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:20,159
Speaker 3: It's like this fucking like fucking fell out of it

2195
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:25,439
like somehow, so they just fell out of the fucking zipper.

2196
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:34,479
Speaker 7: The bottom falls out. Excuse me, sir, what are those?

2197
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:40,039
Those are my nuts, ma'am.

2198
01:58:40,079 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 3: Those balls are as smooth as.

2199
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 5: He sent my church a case of being sausages, and

2200
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:48,359
I sent him an autograph picture.

2201
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 7: Fucking fucking watch don't know? Don't you dare not in

2202
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:57,279
the sid tribute. I don't have the capacity.

2203
01:59:08,159 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 2: What's good?

2204
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:09,239
Speaker 7: Bos?

2205
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 9: What's good?

2206
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:12,039
Speaker 16: Bitch?

2207
01:59:13,039 --> 01:59:19,880
Speaker 7: What's wrong with It's a great question, rogers? What's wrong

2208
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:20,640
with Roger?

2209
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 8: What's wrong with pussy? Milton read?

2210
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:29,039
Speaker 7: Oh, Milton read is what's wrong with a little?

2211
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:36,439
Speaker 3: Oh my god? What did he say?

2212
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 7: Milton read like that?

2213
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2214
01:59:40,199 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 3: It's the greatest thing, Milton Milton read.

2215
01:59:47,159 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 7: That's what you're missing under the cinemat folks, that's the

2216
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:52,359
great Roger Moore, one of the great double oh seven's.

2217
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

2218
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 8: What's wrong with pussy crock? That is?

2219
02:00:01,119 --> 02:00:04,319
Speaker 7: That is a problematic byproduct? That's true.

2220
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:13,760
Speaker 3: Okay, alright, alright, okay, okay.

2221
02:00:16,079 --> 02:00:21,119
Speaker 7: Your dumb foot? Who is that freaking cheek?

2222
02:00:30,319 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 4: No doubt.

2223
02:00:35,319 --> 02:00:54,039
Speaker 17: Picture wrestling fans have been tripping last wrestling fans trick.

2224
02:00:58,319 --> 02:00:58,880
Speaker 7: Those balls?

2225
02:01:02,479 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 4: I wish you.

2226
02:01:12,319 --> 02:01:13,039
Speaker 3: Are very good.

2227
02:01:21,279 --> 02:01:22,319
Speaker 7: It's like a tapestry.

2228
02:01:22,399 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 3: It's like.

2229
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:37,319
Speaker 7: It's like the Guernica painting. By Picasso. Just Milton, that

2230
02:01:37,479 --> 02:01:41,880
was very very naughty of you, Bob. I don't think

2231
02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:44,000
the people are ready for that, I really do. I

2232
02:01:44,119 --> 02:01:46,159
think they know anything about what that just happened.

2233
02:01:46,159 --> 02:01:54,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Milton read to understand. Like also his

2234
02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:56,439
voice by that point, you know, as he got older,

2235
02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:59,319
his voice just somehow got deeper and deeper and deeper

2236
02:01:59,359 --> 02:01:59,760
and deeper.

2237
02:02:00,199 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 7: Absolutely it did.

2238
02:02:01,239 --> 02:02:11,840
Speaker 3: Oh god? Anyway, Uh what the representations? Yeah, wrestler here

2239
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:16,520
about represents and warrens w c w's follows. A wrestler

2240
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:21,039
has a full power, authority, ability and legal right.

2241
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:25,600
Speaker 7: To execute who ye, right he do? I get to execute?

2242
02:02:27,039 --> 02:02:27,880
O Hogan?

2243
02:02:30,079 --> 02:02:42,399
Speaker 3: What Michaels, Sam Michaels, Big Daddy code Diesel say, those

2244
02:02:42,439 --> 02:02:43,640
are w W guys.

2245
02:02:46,079 --> 02:02:47,079
Speaker 8: You know we don't we don't.

2246
02:02:47,239 --> 02:02:51,119
Speaker 3: You know we've got national Hogan here, but you're not Diesel.

2247
02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 7: Why are you looking at me, Harvey Schiller?

2248
02:02:58,359 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 3: Is it because I'm not a big movie star?

2249
02:03:00,239 --> 02:03:00,359
Speaker 8: Oh?

2250
02:03:00,479 --> 02:03:05,319
Speaker 3: Ship like the Hulk Hogan, the immortal one himself.

2251
02:03:05,439 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 7: That would have been a coo to bring in Jack

2252
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:13,039
Toney to w CW. Imagine him walking out of Nitro

2253
02:03:13,159 --> 02:03:16,119
and like overruling Arth Bishop a riot.

2254
02:03:17,279 --> 02:03:24,439
Speaker 3: Thank you Eric, that's that's Jack Toney, s Shavanni. I know,

2255
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:28,279
I know he'd make the biggest deal out of it fans,

2256
02:03:29,319 --> 02:03:30,640
one of the more god fans.

2257
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,439
Speaker 7: He died in twenty oh four. He's available. Did anybody

2258
02:03:33,479 --> 02:03:36,960
ever make a play for Jack Towney. I can picture

2259
02:03:37,039 --> 02:03:39,520
Russa Russo wanted to bring him in just to like

2260
02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:41,039
cover him in dog shit or something.

2261
02:03:43,159 --> 02:03:45,000
Speaker 3: Oh you know, he would have done that. I would

2262
02:03:45,039 --> 02:03:45,560
have loved that.

2263
02:03:48,279 --> 02:03:50,159
Speaker 7: I think that's the missing piece. When ben Wan won

2264
02:03:50,159 --> 02:03:52,520
the title in ninety nine and at w W Mayhem,

2265
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,000
they should have had him with Jack Toney. He's his manager.

2266
02:03:55,479 --> 02:04:01,399
Speaker 3: I think he just said they're like half asleep, not

2267
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:02,760
knowing where the fuck he is. And they put a

2268
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:09,640
rocking chair at ringside, just like that Tuesday in Texas, right,

2269
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:11,039
you know, they put out the chair for him so

2270
02:04:11,079 --> 02:04:14,640
he can watch it gets fucking knocked over the.

2271
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:20,520
Speaker 7: Ah instead of instead of like Sting descending from the rafters,

2272
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:23,960
Jack Toney descends.

2273
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:27,439
Speaker 3: Could you imagine all of a sudden and he comes

2274
02:04:27,479 --> 02:04:31,520
out as fast as as Sting would, His arms just

2275
02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:34,640
fucking like he looks like a corpse. Honestly, you know,

2276
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:36,119
his arm's just fucking dangling.

2277
02:04:37,039 --> 02:04:39,640
Speaker 7: It's funny. I called an audible there. I wasn't going

2278
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:41,600
to say Jack Tundy descends, but then I realized it

2279
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:44,079
was pretty funny. But what I was gonna say is,

2280
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:47,399
instead of singing, they put a tuna steak on the

2281
02:04:48,479 --> 02:04:51,159
on the cable and they descend it down onto Tony's.

2282
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:52,520
Speaker 3: Face as he lays on the on the mat in

2283
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:58,800
the ring. You know, a thought, and he sells it

2284
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:17,000
like an octopus. Is like bothering him. Just imagine that

2285
02:05:17,079 --> 02:05:21,000
old man writhing on the floor with a fucking piece

2286
02:05:21,039 --> 02:05:23,239
of meat. Weish meat on his face.

2287
02:05:23,479 --> 02:05:27,199
Speaker 7: Thinking of about Jack Tunny like we really don't other situations.

2288
02:05:27,239 --> 02:05:30,119
Speaker 3: You know, he really deserved more than he got.

2289
02:05:30,199 --> 02:05:31,439
Speaker 7: He did, absolutely he did.

2290
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:35,760
Speaker 3: Like he he he could have been such an asset

2291
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:39,960
to w CW and is whenever he winded, he he

2292
02:05:40,119 --> 02:05:43,880
left in like ninety five. Oh my god, you imagine

2293
02:05:44,319 --> 02:05:45,479
if he fucking jumped ship.

2294
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:46,800
Speaker 7: That's been so funny.

2295
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:49,239
Speaker 3: I'm if he fucking became like n w O.

2296
02:05:52,720 --> 02:05:55,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's like them straight, like the corrupt lawyer for

2297
02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:59,760
them for life. My god, that's been great, I think.

2298
02:06:00,039 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 3: And so to see him wearing like to see him

2299
02:06:02,840 --> 02:06:05,680
wearing the same gray slacks, but with a with a

2300
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:07,119
fucking nWo T shirt.

2301
02:06:07,199 --> 02:06:10,319
Speaker 7: Oh my god, boss, you're fucking electrifying.

2302
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:12,920
Speaker 3: Me, and like in like sunglasses and a leather jacket.

2303
02:06:13,199 --> 02:06:15,520
Speaker 7: Back then, you heard about every making a play for everybody.

2304
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:18,359
They would have taken anybody from WWF just to fuck

2305
02:06:18,399 --> 02:06:18,840
with Vince.

2306
02:06:20,439 --> 02:06:25,560
Speaker 3: Ah, that would have been tremendous. See him just completely

2307
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:36,199
like get out of context. Yeah yeah. Oh. To execute

2308
02:06:36,239 --> 02:06:39,920
and deliver this agreement and to perform his obligations here under,

2309
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:43,720
including to utilize the names sid Vicious in connection here

2310
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:48,920
with B Wrestler has all legal rights, power and authority

2311
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:54,760
and ability to convey the work product WCW. This agreement

2312
02:06:55,119 --> 02:07:01,439
constitutes illegal, valid, and lawfully behind an obligation of Wrestler,

2313
02:07:02,079 --> 02:07:06,359
and it's enforceable in accordance with its terms. The execution, delivery,

2314
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:10,960
and performance this agreement have been consented to and authorized

2315
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:15,439
by all individuals or entities required to consent to or

2316
02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:20,600
authorize the same, will not contravene any law, regulation, judgment,

2317
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:24,159
or decree applicable to Wrestler, and will not cause or

2318
02:07:24,359 --> 02:07:28,560
result in a breach of or default under any other agreement,

2319
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:32,840
contract or understanding to each wrestler is a party. There

2320
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:36,800
are no pending claims my kind of party. Yes, there

2321
02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:40,479
are no pending claims or litigation which would or might

2322
02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:44,279
interfere with the performance of wrestler's obligations or the enjoyment

2323
02:07:45,319 --> 02:07:50,239
of I'm not here for people's enjoyment. I'm not here

2324
02:07:50,319 --> 02:07:55,199
for you enjoy Why are you making me enjoy people?

2325
02:07:55,359 --> 02:07:55,520
Speaker 4: Right?

2326
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:59,479
Speaker 7: That is the question. Well, good thing had cleared up

2327
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:02,039
the arn and some lawsuit by then, because that would

2328
02:08:02,039 --> 02:08:03,239
be a problematic clause for.

2329
02:08:03,319 --> 02:08:09,199
Speaker 3: Him, I would imagine, So, I would imagine. So it's absurd.

2330
02:08:13,720 --> 02:08:19,560
Negations disagree. Wrestlers not currently using enduring the term disagreement

2331
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:24,520
shall not use any illegal drugs, steroids, or other substances

2332
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:25,600
prohibited by WSW.

2333
02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:28,319
Speaker 7: It is in the contract. It is prohibited from using steroids.

2334
02:08:29,199 --> 02:08:30,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure that really stopped.

2335
02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:32,359
Speaker 7: Where's the enforcement provision on that one?

2336
02:08:33,239 --> 02:08:49,199
Speaker 1: The la fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows

2337
02:08:49,279 --> 02:09:07,319
the boys need their candy, it's the Lampsed Fan. He's

2338
02:09:07,319 --> 02:09:10,840
a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and carn.

2339
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:15,960
Speaker 3: J And where's uh, Yeah, who enforces that on Randy Savage?

2340
02:09:16,199 --> 02:09:19,399
Speaker 7: Right? By the way, this contract you probably got that

2341
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:21,359
that sentence ex sized entire roe.

2342
02:09:21,479 --> 02:09:23,640
Speaker 3: I wanna tell you something I don't want telling you right, No,

2343
02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:26,439
I'm not gonna do that one. Let's have that one.

2344
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:28,159
You know what, Let's just say, you know what, let's

2345
02:09:28,199 --> 02:09:30,479
just say we turned a blind eye, right, and we're

2346
02:09:30,479 --> 02:09:31,680
gonna remove that one.

2347
02:09:33,039 --> 02:09:34,960
Speaker 7: Plan using steroids. Yeah, I told you I didn't.

2348
02:09:36,199 --> 02:09:38,000
Speaker 3: I know, I'm not planning to use the steroids. I'm

2349
02:09:38,039 --> 02:09:40,319
not gonna not do steroids. We just want to kind

2350
02:09:40,319 --> 02:09:41,479
of keep that last one.

2351
02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 8: What.

2352
02:09:45,359 --> 02:09:47,640
Speaker 3: I just went around did the business. I did the thing,

2353
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:51,600
getting it, doing one, two, three, up and down and

2354
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:52,199
all around.

2355
02:09:52,319 --> 02:09:53,760
Speaker 7: Think you just said I just went around and did

2356
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:56,359
the business. It was like it took a ship to me.

2357
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:01,520
And he says, like, I don't plan on using steroids.

2358
02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:03,119
So I don't know why there's a line in my

2359
02:10:03,199 --> 02:10:05,159
contract saying I won't do it. I don't plan on

2360
02:10:05,239 --> 02:10:05,479
doing it.

2361
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:08,920
Speaker 3: I don't plan on doing it. I'm not saying that

2362
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:10,600
I'm gonna do it. I'm not saying I'm not gonna

2363
02:10:10,640 --> 02:10:11,960
do it. I just can tell you right now, on

2364
02:10:12,199 --> 02:10:15,319
top of things, if we're talking about where we're seeing

2365
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:19,239
to eye right now, I'm not gonna do it. I

2366
02:10:19,279 --> 02:10:21,119
don't plan on doing it, so why do we have

2367
02:10:21,239 --> 02:10:23,800
it in the contract? You know, nothing to worry about me.

2368
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:26,920
I've been there, I've done it. I've gone round and

2369
02:10:27,039 --> 02:10:30,159
round before, I've gone up and down the mountain. I've

2370
02:10:30,199 --> 02:10:33,199
gone up and down the staircase. I've seen things with

2371
02:10:33,399 --> 02:10:36,359
one eye. I've seen other things with the I've done.

2372
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:47,439
Speaker 7: No well sees things with one eye. Jr.

2373
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:58,119
Speaker 3: I mean Captain Jim Ross to be the pirate?

2374
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:03,279
Speaker 7: I mean I don't want to be. I don't want

2375
02:11:03,319 --> 02:11:05,760
to be a stickler for this. But are we just

2376
02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:10,239
gonna list What shouldn't the contract just listings I'm going

2377
02:11:10,359 --> 02:11:10,560
to do?

2378
02:11:11,600 --> 02:11:14,279
Speaker 3: Why shouldn't I just don't understand. I'm sitting here wondering

2379
02:11:14,359 --> 02:11:16,560
exactly what we're trying to get a hold of.

2380
02:11:16,640 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna do steroids, and it's an ineur SYSM

2381
02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:20,600
do stearis. There's a lot of things I'm not gonna do.

2382
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:22,359
Do we have to enumerate every one of them in

2383
02:11:22,359 --> 02:11:23,840
the contract? Why does the contract have to say what

2384
02:11:23,880 --> 02:11:24,159
I'm doing?

2385
02:11:24,279 --> 02:11:26,159
Speaker 3: A right? No, I'm not gonna do the j O

2386
02:11:26,399 --> 02:11:29,600
Beata Hooven do Guerrera put that in there? Everybody putting

2387
02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:32,680
mad in the contract, seeing establish'll not do a job.

2388
02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:36,359
But I ain't planning to lose that fucking freak.

2389
02:11:36,159 --> 02:11:38,479
Speaker 7: God, just like I ain't planning on doing steroids.

2390
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:41,239
Speaker 3: I'm not planning on doing steroids. I don't intend to

2391
02:11:41,279 --> 02:11:44,520
do steroids. I think what we gotta do, what we

2392
02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:47,560
should plan on, is take that part of the contract

2393
02:11:48,479 --> 02:11:52,840
out a commission. Bingo, you nailed it.

2394
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 7: Feel proud of yourself. You landed the plane.

2395
02:12:02,760 --> 02:12:03,399
Speaker 12: Oh god.

2396
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:17,520
Speaker 3: Uh. Wrestler agrees indemnify, defend, and hold harmless wsw IS directors, officers, shareholders,

2397
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:22,079
and their respective agents, officers and employees against any and

2398
02:12:22,159 --> 02:12:28,960
all suits, Damages, expenses, including without limitation, court costs, attorneys fees,

2399
02:12:29,600 --> 02:12:30,920
out lookable.

2400
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:32,640
Speaker 7: Like that word.

2401
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:37,680
Speaker 3: Right the way he says it, out lookable, costs of

2402
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:43,439
in house counsel, losses. I don't plan on losing. In fact,

2403
02:12:43,439 --> 02:12:49,520
I intend I have an undefeated streak. That's my plan. Liabilities.

2404
02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 7: Ask your question, but do you really have to tell

2405
02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:53,039
a wrestler to hold harmless?

2406
02:12:54,479 --> 02:13:00,760
Speaker 3: It's that kind of the whole point. Well, it depends

2407
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:02,520
on who you are. It was was sitting known for

2408
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:09,119
holding harmless, not if your shirt jobs. That's true, That

2409
02:13:09,279 --> 02:13:18,520
is true, harmless losss, liabilities and claims of any kind

2410
02:13:18,680 --> 02:13:22,319
caused by or resulting from any breach, disagreement, or by

2411
02:13:22,479 --> 02:13:26,359
any other act or omission of wrestler, whether the same

2412
02:13:26,720 --> 02:13:31,279
may be the result of negligence, willful act, responsibility under

2413
02:13:31,359 --> 02:13:37,880
strict liability standards, any other substandard conduct, or otherwise. Wrestler

2414
02:13:38,199 --> 02:13:40,880
shall at all times be responsible for any loss or

2415
02:13:41,039 --> 02:13:45,399
damage to any WCW property by wrestler or while in

2416
02:13:45,520 --> 02:13:49,399
the possession of wrestler, unless said damage occurs at the

2417
02:13:49,560 --> 02:13:53,199
time direct instruction of WCW as part of a storyline.

2418
02:13:53,199 --> 02:13:56,239
Speaker 7: It's pretty funny that to put that in there, the lass.

2419
02:13:56,680 --> 02:14:02,720
Speaker 3: That's hilarious, Like, okay, I guess, I mean, I don't know.

2420
02:14:03,319 --> 02:14:05,600
There are other ways that do you really need to

2421
02:14:05,600 --> 02:14:05,880
say that?

2422
02:14:06,159 --> 02:14:06,279
Speaker 8: Right?

2423
02:14:06,760 --> 02:14:08,720
Speaker 7: You have to stipulate that we're not going to come

2424
02:14:08,760 --> 02:14:11,640
after you for breaking a car if we direct it

2425
02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:12,319
or break the car.

2426
02:14:13,319 --> 02:14:15,920
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe maybe it is for his protection, but

2427
02:14:16,039 --> 02:14:22,720
still that's fucking lame if you ask me. But whatever

2428
02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:28,319
the loss or damage here, there too shall be restored

2429
02:14:28,319 --> 02:14:36,199
at wrestler's expense term termination incapacity, unless sooner terminated in

2430
02:14:36,239 --> 02:14:38,439
accordance with the provisions of this agreement. The term of

2431
02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:42,000
this agreement shall be as described in Exhibit A attached

2432
02:14:42,039 --> 02:14:46,119
here to and incorporated here in by reference. You read that. Yeah,

2433
02:14:46,600 --> 02:14:50,520
the terminus agreement shall be divided into consecutive one year periods.

2434
02:14:50,920 --> 02:14:54,520
During any such period, WSHW may terminate this agreement with

2435
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:58,159
or without cause, but after giving wrestler at least three

2436
02:14:58,399 --> 02:15:00,399
months prior written notice.

2437
02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:04,600
Speaker 7: Is that normal notice?

2438
02:15:04,680 --> 02:15:04,840
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2439
02:15:04,880 --> 02:15:05,359
Speaker 7: Ninety days?

2440
02:15:05,439 --> 02:15:08,319
Speaker 3: Yep, you get so, we're gonna fire you in ninety days,

2441
02:15:10,119 --> 02:15:11,359
even if it does something really bad.

2442
02:15:12,319 --> 02:15:15,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right.

2443
02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:16,399
Speaker 3: It seems weird.

2444
02:15:16,520 --> 02:15:20,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, get your affairs in order. That seems so fucking

2445
02:15:20,439 --> 02:15:25,359
weird to me. Whatever, I guess.

2446
02:15:35,399 --> 02:15:43,119
Speaker 3: Where was I? Wrestler may terminate this agreement upon the

2447
02:15:43,159 --> 02:15:46,359
occurrence of any material breach of any provision here up

2448
02:15:46,359 --> 02:15:50,600
by WSW which remains uncured for a period of fifteen

2449
02:15:50,680 --> 02:15:54,720
consecutive days after wrestlers provide WSW with written notice of

2450
02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:59,279
the breach. W CW may immediately terminate this agreement upon

2451
02:15:59,359 --> 02:16:02,840
the occurrence or at any time during the continuation of

2452
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:06,880
any material breach of any provision wrestler. Any provision hereo

2453
02:16:07,000 --> 02:16:11,199
by wrestler. Okay, so that's if he does a breach,

2454
02:16:11,479 --> 02:16:13,560
so he has to give them fifteen days to fix

2455
02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:16,720
it and they interminate him at them at the moment

2456
02:16:17,920 --> 02:16:19,479
for a breach contract.

2457
02:16:21,119 --> 02:16:21,359
Speaker 8: Wow.

2458
02:16:22,359 --> 02:16:24,199
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I guess there's a different term for breach

2459
02:16:24,319 --> 02:16:25,159
versus just we want to.

2460
02:16:25,119 --> 02:16:29,760
Speaker 3: Get rid of you Jesus Christ. I mean, hey, whatever,

2461
02:16:29,920 --> 02:16:35,559
but like that's wow, that's intense. That's intense. So I'll

2462
02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:42,879
just say that that is intense. Wrestler may terminate this

2463
02:16:42,959 --> 02:16:48,399
agreement or suspend wrestler or ww rather w CWY may

2464
02:16:48,520 --> 02:16:53,040
terminate this agreement or suspend wrestler without pay for good

2465
02:16:53,159 --> 02:16:56,639
calls by written notice setting forth the reason for such

2466
02:16:56,719 --> 02:17:02,520
termination or suspension for the purpose is disagree WWWWW now

2467
02:17:03,079 --> 02:17:06,559
have good cause for termination of wrestler's agreement or suspension

2468
02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:10,399
without pay if wrestler is convicted of, or please guilty to,

2469
02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:15,639
any felony or a crime involving theft, fraud, or moral turpetua.

2470
02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:16,040
Speaker 4: Wow.

2471
02:17:16,239 --> 02:17:22,440
Speaker 7: Interesting what that they well that they have grounds to

2472
02:17:23,040 --> 02:17:23,879
terminate the deal.

2473
02:17:24,079 --> 02:17:24,760
Speaker 3: If you get.

2474
02:17:26,680 --> 02:17:29,520
Speaker 7: You gain trouble. Outside of the wrestling organizations, there certainly

2475
02:17:29,559 --> 02:17:33,639
a lot of guys Scott Hall, Eddie Guerrero that had

2476
02:17:34,479 --> 02:17:36,680
brushes with the law when they were under WSW contract,

2477
02:17:36,760 --> 02:17:38,520
and they certainly didn't get rid of them, but they

2478
02:17:38,600 --> 02:17:42,440
had grounds too. If this is boilerplate, that's wild and

2479
02:17:42,520 --> 02:17:45,239
it's a felony or a crime involving theft fraud, so

2480
02:17:45,319 --> 02:17:49,000
those could be misdemeanors too that are covered. What that

2481
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:52,600
wouldn't cover a crime involving theft, fraud or moral Yeah,

2482
02:17:53,200 --> 02:18:01,159
I guess jaywalking. Well yeah, okay, right, that's funny. Actually, yeah,

2483
02:18:01,360 --> 02:18:03,120
like there's very little not covered there, but that's one

2484
02:18:03,239 --> 02:18:05,360
pass to mind j.

2485
02:18:08,040 --> 02:18:17,879
Speaker 3: That would be absolute hilarious. If wrestler intentionally violates any law, rule, regulation,

2486
02:18:18,120 --> 02:18:23,000
or order of any governmental authority, thereby exposing ww IS,

2487
02:18:23,159 --> 02:18:27,920
parent subsidiaries, or any affiliatedity of the WCWT potential civil

2488
02:18:28,399 --> 02:18:32,840
or criminal penalties. If wrestler fails adequately or completely perform

2489
02:18:33,280 --> 02:18:36,840
any of his duties or obligations here under, whether express

2490
02:18:37,079 --> 02:18:42,440
or implied. If wrestler fails to follow the direction ww's officers.

2491
02:18:42,879 --> 02:18:46,959
If wrestler engages and conduct or activities involved in moral

2492
02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:52,559
turpitude materially damaging to the business or reputation WCW. If

2493
02:18:52,639 --> 02:18:58,440
wrestler violates the WCW Substance Abuse Policy. If wrestler otherwise

2494
02:18:58,520 --> 02:19:04,079
breaches any provision representation of this agreement. If wrestler intentionally

2495
02:19:04,159 --> 02:19:08,120
misappropriates for his own purpose and benefit and any property

2496
02:19:08,159 --> 02:19:13,120
of the WCW, its parent subsidiaries, or any affiliated entity

2497
02:19:13,159 --> 02:19:19,360
of WW, or appropriates appropriates any corporate opportunity of WW,

2498
02:19:19,879 --> 02:19:24,639
its parent subsidiaries, or any affiliated unity of WCW, wrestler

2499
02:19:24,920 --> 02:19:28,600
acknowledges that a waiver by WCW of its rights was

2500
02:19:28,719 --> 02:19:32,360
respect to any provision of this paragraph in one instance,

2501
02:19:32,559 --> 02:19:35,120
will not be deemed to constitute a waiver of its

2502
02:19:35,239 --> 02:19:39,319
rights with respect to the same, or a similar breach thereafter.

2503
02:19:39,559 --> 02:19:41,559
Speaker 9: I just want to let you know that I'm letting

2504
02:19:41,600 --> 02:19:44,959
your feazy this time, but this waiver does not constitute

2505
02:19:45,239 --> 02:19:47,399
a waiver of all rights with respect of the same.

2506
02:19:48,440 --> 02:19:49,920
Speaker 3: I just want let you know something.

2507
02:19:51,399 --> 02:19:55,000
Speaker 7: This is not a waiver of my right of obligation,

2508
02:19:55,239 --> 02:19:57,600
right bingo.

2509
02:20:02,040 --> 02:20:02,840
Speaker 8: Or lack thereof?

2510
02:20:03,000 --> 02:20:03,159
Speaker 3: Yes?

2511
02:20:03,360 --> 02:20:03,479
Speaker 12: Right?

2512
02:20:03,719 --> 02:20:09,440
Speaker 3: Well, clearly, this agreement shall terminate automatically upon my death.

2513
02:20:10,799 --> 02:20:13,520
Speaker 7: You can finish it started.

2514
02:20:13,840 --> 02:20:18,600
Speaker 3: Agreement shall terminate automatically upon the death of wrestler brother.

2515
02:20:19,799 --> 02:20:20,120
Speaker 8: What do you.

2516
02:20:22,239 --> 02:20:23,360
Speaker 3: Mean, death of wrestler brother?

2517
02:20:24,079 --> 02:20:24,399
Speaker 8: What do you.

2518
02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:29,159
Speaker 7: What's that in there? Did that go without song? Why

2519
02:20:29,159 --> 02:20:30,120
does that have to be in black?

2520
02:20:30,159 --> 02:20:32,360
Speaker 3: And why are you talking about? I mean, what are

2521
02:20:32,399 --> 02:20:33,120
you implying, dude?

2522
02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:36,159
Speaker 7: Shouldn't there be more in there about like what happens

2523
02:20:36,200 --> 02:20:39,840
if someone else, if someone's found guilty of that death

2524
02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:40,079
or me?

2525
02:20:41,360 --> 02:20:41,680
Speaker 8: What do you.

2526
02:20:43,600 --> 02:20:45,120
Speaker 3: On the front do you try to say?

2527
02:20:45,120 --> 02:20:46,360
Speaker 7: If you want to get out of this contract with

2528
02:20:46,440 --> 02:20:48,120
Hulk Hogan, you have the incentive to kill him?

2529
02:20:48,159 --> 02:20:51,760
Speaker 3: Brother? Are you Are you saying you can kill Hulk Hogan? Right?

2530
02:20:52,840 --> 02:20:54,399
Speaker 7: Are you saying that you give the authority to kill

2531
02:20:54,440 --> 02:20:56,280
Hulk Hogan? I don't know why else that contract clause

2532
02:20:56,280 --> 02:20:57,200
would be in there, brother.

2533
02:20:57,840 --> 02:21:01,399
Speaker 3: I Brother, I feel like I'm getting well, you know what, dude,

2534
02:21:03,239 --> 02:21:23,159
I just h Terry. I I just want to get

2535
02:21:23,159 --> 02:21:25,079
it on the same page. Brother, it's all masking, Dude,

2536
02:21:25,879 --> 02:21:27,879
I want you know dollar in.

2537
02:21:32,159 --> 02:21:42,959
Speaker 7: You don't say you don't say Terry uh he wants

2538
02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:44,479
to dial it in ladies and gentlemen.

2539
02:21:46,120 --> 02:21:47,559
Speaker 8: M and just.

2540
02:21:49,360 --> 02:21:52,719
Speaker 3: You're back on track, dude. I'm just feeling a little.

2541
02:21:53,159 --> 02:21:55,959
Speaker 7: Says death And you can understand, brother, I get a

2542
02:21:55,959 --> 02:21:56,840
little wide eyed at that.

2543
02:21:57,399 --> 02:21:58,559
Speaker 3: You know, I'm call it like you know, we're talking

2544
02:21:58,600 --> 02:21:59,719
about why I'm a white glide?

2545
02:21:59,760 --> 02:22:01,799
Speaker 7: Brother coming at me wide open? Is what you're doing?

2546
02:22:01,840 --> 02:22:03,920
Speaker 3: Why didn't say that?

2547
02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:04,200
Speaker 8: Dude?

2548
02:22:04,200 --> 02:22:05,760
Speaker 7: I mean, you know Rex flaor brother? He comes at

2549
02:22:05,799 --> 02:22:09,799
you wide open? B What does that even mean? Ogan?

2550
02:22:10,079 --> 02:22:10,680
What is that even?

2551
02:22:11,959 --> 02:22:12,159
Speaker 8: Where?

2552
02:22:12,959 --> 02:22:14,360
Speaker 3: I just wonder where were coming from.

2553
02:22:16,120 --> 02:22:24,959
Speaker 7: And coming from behind? Ooh, pull up, like to pull

2554
02:22:25,040 --> 02:22:27,799
up to hulk, like gassing up at at a gas station.

2555
02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:28,639
Speaker 3: Excuse me?

2556
02:22:28,719 --> 02:22:30,760
Speaker 7: Sure, I'm looking for directions? Time to get back on

2557
02:22:30,760 --> 02:22:34,040
the turn pike. Where He goes, where are you coming

2558
02:22:34,120 --> 02:22:35,719
from from behind?

2559
02:22:37,479 --> 02:22:37,520
Speaker 12: What?

2560
02:22:38,920 --> 02:22:40,159
Speaker 3: What are you from from behind?

2561
02:22:40,239 --> 02:22:42,120
Speaker 7: What do you turn around? You've been talking to you?

2562
02:22:42,159 --> 02:22:45,479
Dude looks around like who's giving you? He looks it,

2563
02:22:45,479 --> 02:22:47,920
looks at his eleven o'clock is six o'clock is four o'clock.

2564
02:22:47,920 --> 02:22:49,079
He's looking everywhere around.

2565
02:22:49,239 --> 02:22:50,000
Speaker 3: Are you getting a push?

2566
02:22:50,079 --> 02:22:50,280
Speaker 2: Dude?

2567
02:22:52,399 --> 02:22:54,760
Speaker 3: Shock the easy brother to shock. A Bischoff.

2568
02:22:56,079 --> 02:22:58,520
Speaker 7: Truck is stuck in a snow bank. Everyone's in there

2569
02:22:58,559 --> 02:23:00,520
trying to push it out. He goes, you're giving push?

2570
02:23:02,760 --> 02:23:03,920
Is this a push in the making?

2571
02:23:04,040 --> 02:23:05,719
Speaker 3: Brother? Can you give me a push?

2572
02:23:06,079 --> 02:23:06,719
Speaker 7: What I need to?

2573
02:23:10,399 --> 02:23:10,520
Speaker 3: Might?

2574
02:23:10,559 --> 02:23:11,159
Speaker 7: Give me a push?

2575
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:15,200
Speaker 3: Sir? Yeah, we're good. What I want to tell you

2576
02:23:15,280 --> 02:23:16,760
right now, dude? Do you mind giving you a push

2577
02:23:16,799 --> 02:23:18,159
for that? I don't know what your credentials are.

2578
02:23:19,360 --> 02:23:22,079
Speaker 7: Come at me like wide open like that. What do

2579
02:23:22,120 --> 02:23:24,799
you expect me to say? Cross? Can you give me

2580
02:23:24,879 --> 02:23:30,120
a push? Guys, now you've asked if.

2581
02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:32,479
Speaker 3: You can have a push. Hey, I'm gonna stuck over here?

2582
02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:33,319
Can you give me a push?

2583
02:23:34,559 --> 02:23:34,600
Speaker 5: What?

2584
02:23:35,879 --> 02:23:36,159
Speaker 2: Whoa?

2585
02:23:36,319 --> 02:23:36,639
Speaker 4: Whoa?

2586
02:23:39,879 --> 02:23:40,719
Speaker 7: Before his horse?

2587
02:23:40,840 --> 02:23:44,399
Speaker 3: We're talking about I mean, we're talking about that. We're

2588
02:23:44,440 --> 02:23:45,840
putting the kids before his brother.

2589
02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:50,719
Speaker 7: His word for horse.

2590
02:23:51,399 --> 02:23:56,799
Speaker 3: His it's word for card kids.

2591
02:23:58,680 --> 02:23:59,920
Speaker 7: Choosy mom's choose kids.

2592
02:24:03,639 --> 02:24:05,159
Speaker 3: And we're putting you. You know, I feel like you're

2593
02:24:05,200 --> 02:24:07,479
putting the kids before that his dude, me too. Actually,

2594
02:24:08,959 --> 02:24:12,360
uh so you say you're stuck, brother, we've all been

2595
02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:14,280
kind of in a rut, Dude. I've I've been kind

2596
02:24:14,319 --> 02:24:15,639
of in that little thing. You kind of get to that,

2597
02:24:15,840 --> 02:24:18,159
you'll get over that next obstacle. Brother. But you're saying,

2598
02:24:18,479 --> 02:24:20,719
I'm gonna I'm stuck right now due to my career

2599
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:22,760
and where I am in the ring. Brother, And so

2600
02:24:22,799 --> 02:24:24,639
I'm gonna go out to Hulk Hogan kind of like

2601
02:24:24,760 --> 02:24:27,200
butter him up a little bit, brother, and I'm gonna

2602
02:24:27,200 --> 02:24:29,559
ask for a push, dude, get his title, brother, get

2603
02:24:29,600 --> 02:24:31,920
his torch, dude, and take Dubble's show to that next level.

2604
02:24:36,360 --> 02:24:44,319
Speaker 7: He says, take w'sw to that next list, Like that's

2605
02:24:45,120 --> 02:24:47,920
like that's a paranoid thing to say, Like that's gonna

2606
02:24:47,920 --> 02:24:51,600
be afraid of if he's gonna do it that next

2607
02:24:52,840 --> 02:24:55,879
he just speaks of these vagaries for the rest of

2608
02:24:55,959 --> 02:24:58,920
his time on earthuntil he's in the ground. Dial it in.

2609
02:24:59,360 --> 02:24:59,840
Speaker 3: This thing's on.

2610
02:25:01,520 --> 02:25:04,719
Speaker 7: None of it is ever true, you know, just.

2611
02:25:07,360 --> 02:25:13,200
Speaker 3: Bizarre, bizarre paranoia about random ship that like nobody cares about.

2612
02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:14,959
People are just trying to live their normal.

2613
02:25:15,200 --> 02:25:19,360
Speaker 7: I mean steal. This agreement shall terminate automatically upon the

2614
02:25:19,399 --> 02:25:21,399
death of wrestler and he's slammed on the brakes.

2615
02:25:22,840 --> 02:25:24,440
Speaker 3: WHOA, I gotta f up with gas, dude?

2616
02:25:25,040 --> 02:25:26,520
Speaker 4: Whoa whoa?

2617
02:25:27,280 --> 02:25:28,280
Speaker 3: Whoa dude?

2618
02:25:28,360 --> 02:25:29,000
Speaker 4: Whoa whoa?

2619
02:25:29,280 --> 02:25:32,879
Speaker 3: Brother? Whoa Let's just slow this thing down, to slow

2620
02:25:33,079 --> 02:25:33,760
the machine down?

2621
02:25:33,840 --> 02:25:34,079
Speaker 9: Brother?

2622
02:25:36,440 --> 02:25:40,600
Speaker 3: What's the diz and death of wrestler?

2623
02:25:40,680 --> 02:25:40,920
Speaker 8: Dude?

2624
02:25:42,079 --> 02:25:43,079
Speaker 7: The death of a salesman?

2625
02:25:43,159 --> 02:25:45,719
Speaker 3: Dude? Who's are we talking?

2626
02:25:50,399 --> 02:25:51,719
Speaker 7: Always a promising preamble?

2627
02:25:51,799 --> 02:25:52,479
Speaker 3: Are we talking?

2628
02:25:59,280 --> 02:25:59,719
Speaker 7: It's good?

2629
02:26:00,040 --> 02:26:00,360
Speaker 3: That's good?

2630
02:26:01,920 --> 02:26:03,760
Speaker 7: What's next? The following shell govern.

2631
02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:12,079
Speaker 3: Are we talking Arthur Miller? Dude? A death of a

2632
02:26:12,239 --> 02:26:18,719
what we're talking Arthur the cat Miller. Are we talking

2633
02:26:19,159 --> 02:26:20,040
another cat, dude?

2634
02:26:20,280 --> 02:26:20,440
Speaker 8: Right?

2635
02:26:20,760 --> 02:26:23,040
Speaker 7: Exactly how many cats were we talking about? We already

2636
02:26:23,079 --> 02:26:24,639
have one Miller brother, I means.

2637
02:26:24,479 --> 02:26:26,280
Speaker 3: We got one Miller dude, we've got two cats. We

2638
02:26:26,399 --> 02:26:28,680
got what I won't always say what's going on?

2639
02:26:28,879 --> 02:26:30,000
Speaker 7: Sext Dennis Miller brother?

2640
02:26:30,680 --> 02:26:36,200
Speaker 8: What see?

2641
02:26:36,360 --> 02:26:38,840
Speaker 7: Okay, I think it's taken us ten years, but this

2642
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:41,040
is it. This is the heart of it, is that

2643
02:26:42,200 --> 02:26:47,239
Halt is always reacting to the thing you say while

2644
02:26:47,280 --> 02:26:51,559
he was talking. See, he's in the middle of like

2645
02:26:51,680 --> 02:26:56,120
an exposition, and you say something, and it's like he's

2646
02:26:56,239 --> 02:26:58,520
he's he's afraid he missed what you just mumbled.

2647
02:27:00,239 --> 02:27:03,520
Speaker 3: Thinking about like this, He's already on a detour, right, okay,

2648
02:27:03,719 --> 02:27:06,879
like he was going he was going down his normal

2649
02:27:06,959 --> 02:27:09,120
path and he's already on like two or three detours,

2650
02:27:09,399 --> 02:27:11,920
and he's trying to just navigate this this last detour,

2651
02:27:11,920 --> 02:27:14,200
and all of a sudden you put in another fucking detour.

2652
02:27:14,479 --> 02:27:20,120
Speaker 7: Exactly what like, now I have to incorporate that it's insanity.

2653
02:27:20,680 --> 02:27:21,520
Speaker 3: Oh my good, out of town?

2654
02:27:21,639 --> 02:27:22,920
Speaker 7: The capacity do you think I have?

2655
02:27:23,200 --> 02:27:23,239
Speaker 8: What?

2656
02:27:24,200 --> 02:27:25,360
Speaker 7: Like, did you say something else?

2657
02:27:27,879 --> 02:27:37,559
Speaker 3: Are you talking about another threat? Dude? Exactly? For this

2658
02:27:37,680 --> 02:27:41,600
purpose show uh. The following shall govern in the event

2659
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:49,920
of incapacity of wrestler, oh boy, for the purposes disagreement.

2660
02:27:49,959 --> 02:27:54,479
Incapacity shall be defined as wrestler's inability to perform all

2661
02:27:54,559 --> 02:27:58,120
the physical requirements of the services as determined by I'm

2662
02:27:58,159 --> 02:28:00,959
telling you right now, I can get my cock up,

2663
02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:07,040
all right, we're tucking the mutual man. Mutual men can't

2664
02:28:07,079 --> 02:28:08,879
get it hold on the daily face.

2665
02:28:09,159 --> 02:28:09,959
Speaker 9: The fuck.

2666
02:28:12,639 --> 02:28:15,719
Speaker 7: Not sure. Only macho men get hard on a daily basis,

2667
02:28:15,799 --> 02:28:17,079
with like his shades on.

2668
02:28:17,159 --> 02:28:23,319
Speaker 3: The with the thing in the hand like the ring

2669
02:28:23,479 --> 02:28:26,200
finger and a pointer finger, and the thumb on the glasses.

2670
02:28:27,639 --> 02:28:30,159
Speaker 7: Landy's got the TV above his bed to prove otherwise,

2671
02:28:32,520 --> 02:28:34,399
this fucking twelve inch dong.

2672
02:28:37,399 --> 02:28:48,479
Speaker 3: What okay, Landio okay? Like Landy is the complete opposite

2673
02:28:48,520 --> 02:28:52,280
of that, Like he just he he chooses to just

2674
02:28:52,399 --> 02:29:01,079
lay flaccid forever. All right, Oh my god, that would

2675
02:29:01,079 --> 02:29:03,280
God imagine kind of like you know, again, here we go,

2676
02:29:03,479 --> 02:29:05,239
Like I imagine him, He's laying on his bed and

2677
02:29:05,319 --> 02:29:07,479
it's just kind of like drooping over his fucking legs.

2678
02:29:08,760 --> 02:29:10,040
All right, I don't care.

2679
02:29:10,319 --> 02:29:13,399
Speaker 7: What else you're about to say. We've already found the

2680
02:29:13,440 --> 02:29:16,239
heart of the matter, it's not flaccid. You think flacid

2681
02:29:16,360 --> 02:29:19,000
is the most important detail there, right, that that really

2682
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:23,040
is what lands the plane. No, the keyword there, I

2683
02:29:23,159 --> 02:29:31,559
think you can agree, is not flaccid. It's chooses, right,

2684
02:29:32,040 --> 02:29:35,440
because chooses puts it in this whole other category of

2685
02:29:35,520 --> 02:29:40,000
almost like a capitulation. Yeah, he's he's he has he's

2686
02:29:40,079 --> 02:29:41,440
certain fatalism about it.

2687
02:29:41,559 --> 02:29:41,719
Speaker 8: You know.

2688
02:29:41,879 --> 02:29:46,079
Speaker 7: It's like he knows, he knows it will do him

2689
02:29:46,120 --> 02:29:49,200
no good to get hard. And so despite the fact

2690
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:53,200
that he's hung like a fucking horse, he just chooses

2691
02:29:53,239 --> 02:29:57,920
not to get it up. Is he chooses to lay flaccid,

2692
02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:00,959
which I think is just as poetic is we're gonna

2693
02:30:01,000 --> 02:30:06,319
get on this podcast. Chooses. I mean, that's like, that's

2694
02:30:06,360 --> 02:30:08,280
like the great ending line of like a short poem.

2695
02:30:08,319 --> 02:30:09,840
I don't know what the rest says, but the last

2696
02:30:09,920 --> 02:30:12,360
line of it is and through it all he chooses

2697
02:30:12,399 --> 02:30:14,799
to lay flaccid after all, you know what I mean,

2698
02:30:15,360 --> 02:30:23,239
in light or in spite of it all, rest in peace.

2699
02:30:24,399 --> 02:30:26,200
Speaker 3: That's straight. All three of them.

2700
02:30:27,879 --> 02:30:31,000
Speaker 7: Ship that's true. That's actually true?

2701
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:33,639
Speaker 3: All right? How does that feel? Not great?

2702
02:30:34,360 --> 02:30:35,000
Speaker 8: Not at all?

2703
02:30:40,239 --> 02:30:42,319
Speaker 3: They talked about what episode Wasn't that they talked about

2704
02:30:42,360 --> 02:30:47,120
Lanny Lanny Lane choosing to lay flaccid. That was the

2705
02:30:47,239 --> 02:30:48,639
SID contract episode.

2706
02:30:48,680 --> 02:30:51,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, this one's gonna be one where there's a lot

2707
02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:52,760
of Easter eggs.

2708
02:30:59,440 --> 02:31:03,000
Speaker 3: For purpose of this agreement, incapacity shall be defined as

2709
02:31:03,040 --> 02:31:07,559
wrestlers inability to perform all the physical requirements of the

2710
02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:12,520
services as determined by w CW. WCW may, at its

2711
02:31:12,680 --> 02:31:17,559
option and expense, require wrestler to be evaluated by physicians

2712
02:31:17,600 --> 02:31:23,440
selected by w CW for purposes of determination of incapacity. Wow, well,

2713
02:31:23,520 --> 02:31:25,319
now you know, we just want to determine exactly how

2714
02:31:25,399 --> 02:31:26,120
in capacitory you.

2715
02:31:26,319 --> 02:31:27,760
Speaker 7: I wonder why that clause would have to be in

2716
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:28,639
sid's contract.

2717
02:31:31,040 --> 02:31:34,040
Speaker 3: See, we just wondering exactly what is incapacitating about you?

2718
02:31:35,399 --> 02:31:39,159
Speaker 7: Because we've heard that, uh, you're good at manufacturing incapacity.

2719
02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:43,959
Speaker 3: We understand that you have had some, uh some fraudulent

2720
02:31:44,079 --> 02:31:45,479
incapacities in the past.

2721
02:31:45,600 --> 02:31:47,440
Speaker 7: Understanding you've even gone back to your hotel when you

2722
02:31:47,440 --> 02:31:49,159
thought you're having a heart attack, for instance.

2723
02:31:49,479 --> 02:31:52,559
Speaker 3: We understand that you've even you know, you went, you know,

2724
02:31:52,920 --> 02:31:55,920
you went back to a hotel and had yourself you know,

2725
02:31:56,000 --> 02:31:57,239
you went by the hotel. If you're having a heart

2726
02:31:57,239 --> 02:32:02,000
attack and had a burger right and and and a

2727
02:32:02,200 --> 02:32:02,879
raw stake.

2728
02:32:05,280 --> 02:32:05,719
Speaker 7: Second one.

2729
02:32:05,760 --> 02:32:06,319
Speaker 3: I don't get, but.

2730
02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:10,319
Speaker 7: This is going to be important because not only does

2731
02:32:10,360 --> 02:32:12,840
said snap his leg at sin, he claims that he

2732
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:15,120
was basically forced to do it. And maybe some of

2733
02:32:15,159 --> 02:32:16,959
these contractual terms explain the basis for.

2734
02:32:16,959 --> 02:32:20,559
Speaker 3: The month to you right now, I'm not normally obligated

2735
02:32:20,600 --> 02:32:24,479
to fulfilled contractual obligations by nuntil you right now. I

2736
02:32:24,719 --> 02:32:30,159
was forced. I was forced to jump against my will,

2737
02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:34,440
and I was forced to break my leg against my will.

2738
02:32:34,559 --> 02:32:37,319
Speaker 7: Correct, I did not.

2739
02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:43,559
Speaker 3: I did not allow somebody to break my leg. Somebody

2740
02:32:43,680 --> 02:32:49,319
forced it upon me. I'll force my broken leg up

2741
02:32:49,360 --> 02:32:55,719
your ass. In the event of capacity, wrestler shall continue

2742
02:32:55,760 --> 02:32:57,840
to receive his filled compensation.

2743
02:32:59,440 --> 02:33:02,680
Speaker 7: Well, forget it, so much for discouraging him from manufacturing

2744
02:33:02,719 --> 02:33:04,680
a reason and incompaciated for.

2745
02:33:04,799 --> 02:33:08,479
Speaker 3: First community of thirty counter days of incapacity for contract

2746
02:33:08,600 --> 02:33:11,680
year and the agreement that show remained in full force.

2747
02:33:11,879 --> 02:33:14,440
All right, So just thirty days of pay so he

2748
02:33:14,520 --> 02:33:19,319
gets through, Okay, okay. If wrestler remains incapacitated after the

2749
02:33:19,360 --> 02:33:24,000
initial initial thirty day incapacity period, whether consecutive or not,

2750
02:33:24,280 --> 02:33:28,399
wswshow have the option at any point during which wrestler

2751
02:33:28,639 --> 02:33:33,159
thereafter remains incapacity to terminate this agreement without further obligation.

2752
02:33:33,319 --> 02:33:35,600
Speaker 7: Sounds like what the Huff Houston fires Steve Boston.

2753
02:33:36,120 --> 02:33:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah right, unless and until wswshall exercise such right to

2754
02:33:42,159 --> 02:33:46,520
terminate this agreement on the basis of incapacity, wswsholla continue

2755
02:33:46,559 --> 02:33:48,799
to pay wrestler on this agreement at the rate of

2756
02:33:48,879 --> 02:33:54,040
one third of the compensation otherwise payable here under or

2757
02:33:54,159 --> 02:33:57,959
B utilized wrestler for non wrestling services, and pay wrestler

2758
02:33:57,959 --> 02:34:00,680
at the rate of one half of the competation otherwise

2759
02:34:00,719 --> 02:34:05,360
payable here under. Wrestler's ability to perform non wrestling services

2760
02:34:05,600 --> 02:34:10,360
shall be determined by ww while wrestlers being paid pursuant

2761
02:34:10,479 --> 02:34:15,719
to for A or B all other terms, this agreement

2762
02:34:15,760 --> 02:34:17,040
shall remain in full force.

2763
02:34:17,159 --> 02:34:20,680
Speaker 7: So there it is thirty days full pay, and then

2764
02:34:20,719 --> 02:34:23,479
after that, if you're still incapacitated, and if WCW does

2765
02:34:23,520 --> 02:34:26,319
not exercise it's right to terminate the agreement, he's going

2766
02:34:26,399 --> 02:34:29,760
to get thirty three and a third of the compensation otherwise.

2767
02:34:29,879 --> 02:34:40,280
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well there you go. H Wait, No, five, yeah, five?

2768
02:34:41,520 --> 02:34:45,479
Any reduction in compensation pursuing this section shall cease upon

2769
02:34:45,559 --> 02:34:49,239
the earlier of a determination that wrestlers again able to

2770
02:34:49,319 --> 02:34:53,440
perform all the physical requirements of the services. B the

2771
02:34:53,559 --> 02:34:57,680
expirationist agreement or c the termination disagreement by w CW

2772
02:34:57,920 --> 02:35:06,600
as provided for Herein H, wrestler acknowledges his president eligibility

2773
02:35:06,680 --> 02:35:09,760
for workers compensation through WW workers Compensation.

2774
02:35:10,440 --> 02:35:12,040
Speaker 7: Well, I thought that was the rest of the contract.

2775
02:35:13,520 --> 02:35:18,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, For so long as WW maintains workers compensation coverage,

2776
02:35:18,879 --> 02:35:22,440
wrestler agrees to accept the benefits provided by said workers

2777
02:35:22,520 --> 02:35:26,799
compensation coverage, as is so an exclusive remedy against WCW,

2778
02:35:27,559 --> 02:35:31,600
including his parent, affiliates, employees, and agents, for any and

2779
02:35:31,799 --> 02:35:35,600
all injuries sustained during the term provided said coverage is

2780
02:35:35,680 --> 02:35:39,680
maintained by w CW, and is an effect with respect

2781
02:35:39,719 --> 02:35:43,879
to such injury. Notwithstanding any anything here into the contrary,

2782
02:35:44,680 --> 02:35:50,520
WW shall not be obligated Y to maintain workers' compensation coverage.

2783
02:35:50,680 --> 02:35:54,280
Speaker 7: WCWS shall not be obligated said, I.

2784
02:35:54,319 --> 02:35:58,200
Speaker 3: Don't believe that I'm not obligated to not obligate.

2785
02:35:57,920 --> 02:36:00,639
Speaker 7: Right, I'm not obligated to knowledge obligation.

2786
02:36:01,479 --> 02:36:07,760
Speaker 3: I'm not obligated to disobligate exactly. Obligation exactly.

2787
02:36:08,639 --> 02:36:11,079
Speaker 7: And this would be hyper relevant for sid here as

2788
02:36:11,120 --> 02:36:13,760
you can imagine sure warfare comp stuff.

2789
02:36:15,719 --> 02:36:23,920
Speaker 3: Number nine restrictive covenance A confidentiality. Confidential information shall mean

2790
02:36:24,360 --> 02:36:29,600
any confidential, proprietary business information or data belonging to or

2791
02:36:29,719 --> 02:36:33,600
pertaining to WCW that does not constitute a trade secret

2792
02:36:34,680 --> 02:36:38,399
as define unapplicable law, and that is not generally known

2793
02:36:39,159 --> 02:36:42,639
by or available through legal means to the public. In

2794
02:36:42,719 --> 02:36:46,200
recognition of ww's need to protect its legitimate business interests.

2795
02:36:47,680 --> 02:36:51,399
Speaker 7: Legitimate business interests really where those it has a legitimate

2796
02:36:51,479 --> 02:36:55,360
business I may be h have ready to rumble since

2797
02:36:55,399 --> 02:36:56,280
I haven't seen it yet.

2798
02:36:56,879 --> 02:36:57,120
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2799
02:36:57,879 --> 02:37:01,399
Speaker 3: Wrestler here by covenants and agree he's a wrestler, shall not,

2800
02:37:01,760 --> 02:37:06,120
unless specifically directed by WCW, for any reason or any fashion,

2801
02:37:07,040 --> 02:37:13,799
either directly or indirectly, use this close, transfer a sign, disseminate, reproduce, copy,

2802
02:37:13,920 --> 02:37:18,520
or otherwise communicate any confidential information at all times during

2803
02:37:18,600 --> 02:37:21,840
his contractual relationship with WCW and for a period of

2804
02:37:21,920 --> 02:37:25,920
one year following the termination thereof, for any reason, and

2805
02:37:26,079 --> 02:37:29,680
trade secrets at all times. Such information remains a trade

2806
02:37:29,760 --> 02:37:31,920
secret under applicable.

2807
02:37:31,479 --> 02:37:35,399
Speaker 7: Laws pretty well during the he's free to talk about

2808
02:37:35,440 --> 02:37:39,280
confidential information after a year, right, know why they wouldn't just.

2809
02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:42,719
Speaker 3: I know, I guess you can't.

2810
02:37:42,760 --> 02:37:44,239
Speaker 7: But why one year? I don't get it.

2811
02:37:44,399 --> 02:37:46,760
Speaker 3: I know that doesn't make much sense at all.

2812
02:37:47,200 --> 02:37:49,719
Speaker 7: In a year he gets terminated in a year after

2813
02:37:49,840 --> 02:37:51,799
he can just talk about everything, Like, why can't you

2814
02:37:51,840 --> 02:37:53,159
just talk about it right away? Who goes a fuck

2815
02:37:53,159 --> 02:37:54,120
about that year he's gone.

2816
02:37:54,200 --> 02:37:57,200
Speaker 3: I know it's weird because they get a chance to, like,

2817
02:37:57,479 --> 02:38:01,079
I don't know, re reorganize it or whatever.

2818
02:38:01,600 --> 02:38:05,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, maybe they can take that time to come

2819
02:38:05,360 --> 02:38:07,000
to some other agreement with him, I don't know, and

2820
02:38:07,319 --> 02:38:08,799
not be worried the whole time that he's going to

2821
02:38:08,840 --> 02:38:11,079
go chirping about something he got screwed over on. It's like,

2822
02:38:11,159 --> 02:38:12,719
let us give us a year to make it right

2823
02:38:12,840 --> 02:38:15,200
before you're you're allowed to tell everybody about it.

2824
02:38:17,159 --> 02:38:27,520
Speaker 3: It's just weird. Uh Where was I there?

2825
02:38:27,879 --> 02:38:31,159
Speaker 7: Bottom of page ten. During the term wrestler shall oh yeah.

2826
02:38:31,719 --> 02:38:35,280
Speaker 3: During the term, wrestler shall exercise his best efforts to

2827
02:38:35,479 --> 02:38:40,239
ensure the continued confidentiality of all trade secrets and confidential

2828
02:38:40,280 --> 02:38:45,360
information WW known by disclosed to or made available to Wrestler,

2829
02:38:45,879 --> 02:38:48,879
whether in connection with his agreement or any other past

2830
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:53,600
or present relationship with w CW immediately notified WHW of

2831
02:38:53,719 --> 02:38:57,559
any unauthorized disclosure or use of any trade secrets or

2832
02:38:57,600 --> 02:39:01,799
confidential information of which Wrestler becomes aware. And it's just

2833
02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:05,319
w W G the extent necessary in the in the

2834
02:39:05,440 --> 02:39:09,399
procurement of, of of of or any protection of w

2835
02:39:09,680 --> 02:39:12,920
w's rights to or in any other trade secrets or

2836
02:39:12,920 --> 02:39:20,239
confidential information, and compete. Here we go. Non competition during

2837
02:39:20,319 --> 02:39:26,360
the term and within the territory of this agreement. Brother territory? Dude?

2838
02:39:31,079 --> 02:39:34,479
Is this company in what we're talking about? What do

2839
02:39:34,520 --> 02:39:39,159
we was before? Are we talking to Georgia territory? This agreement?

2840
02:39:42,559 --> 02:39:45,040
I mean it's Atlanta, brother, But are we what do

2841
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:49,120
we m whose territory?

2842
02:39:51,280 --> 02:39:51,520
Speaker 8: I mean?

2843
02:39:51,760 --> 02:39:54,239
Speaker 3: More importantly, dude, Who's territory?

2844
02:39:56,399 --> 02:39:58,440
Speaker 7: More importantly, Yes, of course, more importantly.

2845
02:40:00,959 --> 02:40:04,959
Speaker 3: During a ternment within the territory disagreement, Wrestler shall perform

2846
02:40:05,040 --> 02:40:08,879
the services exclusively for WW, and shall not directly or

2847
02:40:08,920 --> 02:40:13,159
indirectly be employed by, performed services for, or engage or

2848
02:40:13,239 --> 02:40:16,079
be connected in any manner with any other businesses in

2849
02:40:16,239 --> 02:40:20,280
business entity without the express written consent of WCW.

2850
02:40:21,079 --> 02:40:37,319
Speaker 1: It's the Lapan Wrestling Podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows

2851
02:40:37,360 --> 02:40:55,440
the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's

2852
02:40:55,520 --> 02:40:59,600
the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and SEO and.

2853
02:40:59,719 --> 02:41:04,600
Speaker 3: J Wrestler expressly covenants and agrees that, for a period

2854
02:41:04,639 --> 02:41:08,879
of one hundred and twenty days after any termination or

2855
02:41:09,000 --> 02:41:13,040
expiration disagreement for any reason the non compete period, he

2856
02:41:13,159 --> 02:41:18,000
shall not provide those services specifically delegated in Sections one A,

2857
02:41:18,479 --> 02:41:22,200
one and two to any other individual, company or business

2858
02:41:22,239 --> 02:41:26,799
in the United States, Canada, and Japan. In addition, during

2859
02:41:26,840 --> 02:41:29,200
the non compete so we could do it in Europe,

2860
02:41:29,440 --> 02:41:33,520
that's right, fine, Yes, he could go to Mexico, no problem,

2861
02:41:33,639 --> 02:41:38,000
Very interesting. Yeah. In addition, during the non compete period,

2862
02:41:38,319 --> 02:41:42,440
Wrestler shall not appear or perform in any media, including,

2863
02:41:42,479 --> 02:41:45,479
but not permitted to broadcast, pay per viewing, cable television,

2864
02:41:45,879 --> 02:41:51,360
video replay, telephone, hotline, radio, magazine, internet, in any manner

2865
02:41:51,799 --> 02:41:55,360
or capacity relating to wrestling or any other related professional

2866
02:41:55,799 --> 02:42:01,639
entertainment or athletic event. For on behalf Top in sports.

2867
02:42:01,840 --> 02:42:05,399
Speaker 7: Well, that's any other related professional entertainment athletic event that's

2868
02:42:05,440 --> 02:42:08,319
to cover the WBF lex luger loophole.

2869
02:42:09,680 --> 02:42:11,520
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, what if we make a movie we

2870
02:42:11,639 --> 02:42:15,000
want sit in it? And why did that?

2871
02:42:15,799 --> 02:42:18,159
Speaker 7: It's non compete, don compete. Pal just says he can

2872
02:42:18,639 --> 02:42:19,879
perform in our wrestling.

2873
02:42:19,600 --> 02:42:21,840
Speaker 3: Ring, because't you know that's what it is, a gang

2874
02:42:21,959 --> 02:42:23,559
bornant wrestling ring. But I wanted to be in a movie,

2875
02:42:24,559 --> 02:42:27,760
an entertainment vehicle, WBF the movie. We're not talking about

2876
02:42:27,760 --> 02:42:31,479
an entertainment We're talking about entertainment vehicle. Vehicle four. It's

2877
02:42:31,520 --> 02:42:32,120
a different matter.

2878
02:42:33,120 --> 02:42:34,159
Speaker 7: The formula one stuff.

2879
02:42:34,200 --> 02:42:39,239
Speaker 3: You mean, I believe there is no formula to the

2880
02:42:39,280 --> 02:42:42,959
best entertainment possible. How about there is a formula Formula one,

2881
02:42:43,000 --> 02:42:43,920
Formula two, it doesn't matter.

2882
02:42:45,479 --> 02:42:48,920
Speaker 7: How about WBF the movie. I mean, that's what.

2883
02:42:48,959 --> 02:42:52,280
Speaker 3: About World Bodybuilding Entertainment, the motion.

2884
02:42:52,159 --> 02:42:54,280
Speaker 7: Picture featuring Ye Stratum.

2885
02:42:55,159 --> 02:42:59,200
Speaker 3: Ye, what if we have Sid and Gary Stretham posed

2886
02:42:59,239 --> 02:43:04,120
down for entertainment purposes?

2887
02:43:04,280 --> 02:43:06,920
Speaker 7: That'd have been another coup, bringing Jack Tunny and bringing

2888
02:43:07,000 --> 02:43:08,360
Gary Stridum.

2889
02:43:08,280 --> 02:43:11,440
Speaker 3: Thank god it Do you imagine if fucking Gary stridem

2890
02:43:11,520 --> 02:43:18,200
fucking Nitro that would be wow, oh my god, fucking

2891
02:43:18,280 --> 02:43:25,879
oath such a dufus. I think Ton of Sports Incorporated

2892
02:43:26,159 --> 02:43:31,479
or HHD corporation's ECW in the United States, Canada and Japan,

2893
02:43:31,680 --> 02:43:35,079
or or for broadcasts they're in so they could do

2894
02:43:35,120 --> 02:43:35,959
it in Mexico.

2895
02:43:36,600 --> 02:43:39,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess that that's, uh, that's

2896
02:43:39,879 --> 02:43:41,559
a carve out so that they could still make some

2897
02:43:41,639 --> 02:43:45,680
money for one hundred and twenty days. It might be

2898
02:43:45,760 --> 02:43:48,719
hard to might be hard to actually exclude someone from

2899
02:43:48,760 --> 02:43:50,559
working anywhere for one hundred twenty days. I get the

2900
02:43:50,639 --> 02:43:53,399
sense that wings non completes, non competes do cover that

2901
02:43:53,719 --> 02:43:56,120
like anywhere in the world. But yeah, yeah, I don't know.

2902
02:43:56,159 --> 02:43:57,479
You think you'd have to limit that a little bit

2903
02:43:57,520 --> 02:43:58,639
to pass legal muscle.

2904
02:43:58,440 --> 02:44:00,719
Speaker 3: Now, like you like, you know, this is their job,

2905
02:44:00,840 --> 02:44:02,399
this is what they do to make money. You can't

2906
02:44:02,440 --> 02:44:05,079
really exactly, and you don't want them deny them. You

2907
02:44:05,440 --> 02:44:07,959
got rid of them, right exactly, So what are you

2908
02:44:07,959 --> 02:44:08,479
worried about.

2909
02:44:09,680 --> 02:44:12,280
Speaker 7: It's interesting that ECW and WWF are mentioned. I don't

2910
02:44:12,440 --> 02:44:15,920
think it was understood that. I know, WWE's contracts said

2911
02:44:16,040 --> 02:44:19,319
UFC for it was always like they said UFC wasn't competition.

2912
02:44:19,479 --> 02:44:21,319
Yet in their own contracts they would say you couldn't

2913
02:44:21,319 --> 02:44:24,520
fight in UFC, you can't fight legitimately, there's nothing to

2914
02:44:24,559 --> 02:44:26,840
hear about, mma. So Sid could have gone and fought

2915
02:44:26,840 --> 02:44:27,719
in the cage if we wanted.

2916
02:44:27,840 --> 02:44:29,440
Speaker 3: Oh my god, can you imagine how we would how

2917
02:44:29,479 --> 02:44:35,159
we were broken in half in like five seconds. Like

2918
02:44:35,280 --> 02:44:37,879
you think about how easily his legs shattered. Yeah, yeah,

2919
02:44:37,920 --> 02:44:41,280
they would imagine his fucking getting one punch by anybody.

2920
02:44:41,959 --> 02:44:43,959
Speaker 7: He wouldn't be able to face anybody again after that

2921
02:44:44,000 --> 02:44:45,959
because he never he told himself he was in great

2922
02:44:46,040 --> 02:44:48,159
shape and that he was actually a fighter.

2923
02:44:48,360 --> 02:44:50,799
Speaker 3: No, you know, you know, damn well he is. Just

2924
02:44:51,479 --> 02:44:56,399
his bones are just brittle, all right, you know that,

2925
02:44:56,680 --> 02:45:00,399
Like you know, you know when you break you know,

2926
02:45:00,639 --> 02:45:03,799
you break a twig, yes, and you know how hard

2927
02:45:03,840 --> 02:45:06,559
it is to break a twig when it's when it's

2928
02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:09,120
still like the the bark on the inside is still

2929
02:45:09,319 --> 02:45:13,719
is still green. No, no, no, this is like a

2930
02:45:13,840 --> 02:45:17,680
twig that's been on the ground for like two years,

2931
02:45:18,799 --> 02:45:19,920
completely dried out.

2932
02:45:21,879 --> 02:45:22,639
Speaker 7: Let's go, boss.

2933
02:45:23,040 --> 02:45:26,000
Speaker 3: That's that is the like I imagine, the color of

2934
02:45:27,319 --> 02:45:32,200
Sid's bones are just like they're just brown because they're

2935
02:45:32,280 --> 02:45:37,719
just ready to fucking fall apart. Wow, at any moment.

2936
02:45:38,719 --> 02:45:41,040
His his bone structure is a house of cards.

2937
02:45:42,840 --> 02:45:45,280
Speaker 7: Oh, speaking of a house of cards, look how long

2938
02:45:45,440 --> 02:45:47,200
they can extend the non compete period.

2939
02:45:47,280 --> 02:45:50,719
Speaker 3: Two Oh, here we go. Wrestler acknowledges that the non

2940
02:45:50,760 --> 02:45:53,840
compete shall be increased to six months in the event

2941
02:45:53,920 --> 02:45:56,680
this this agreement is terminated for good cause pursuing to

2942
02:45:56,760 --> 02:45:59,079
paragraph eight. D Wow.

2943
02:46:01,159 --> 02:46:02,440
Speaker 7: So if you do something to fuck up and they

2944
02:46:02,479 --> 02:46:04,319
can fire you for good cause as supposed to just

2945
02:46:04,399 --> 02:46:07,079
because they don't want you anymore for budget cuts, they

2946
02:46:07,120 --> 02:46:08,360
can ice you for six months.

2947
02:46:08,520 --> 02:46:14,680
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. Yeah. See acknowledgment of reasonableness.

2948
02:46:16,440 --> 02:46:17,840
Speaker 7: That goes without saying. But I guess you got to

2949
02:46:17,879 --> 02:46:19,079
bury it in the contract somewhere.

2950
02:46:19,280 --> 02:46:23,440
Speaker 3: Apparently the party's express acknowledged reasonableness and content of the

2951
02:46:23,520 --> 02:46:29,680
covenants and Agreements containing this section ten Notices. All notices

2952
02:46:29,920 --> 02:46:34,399
and statements provided for or required by this Agreement shall

2953
02:46:34,479 --> 02:46:37,719
be in riding and shall be delivered personally to the

2954
02:46:37,840 --> 02:46:42,040
other designated party or mailed by certified or registered mail

2955
02:46:42,639 --> 02:46:48,719
return receipt requested or deposited with recognized National Overweight Courier

2956
02:46:48,879 --> 02:47:03,319
Service Overnight Overweight Overweight Overweight notices shall be deemed effective

2957
02:47:03,399 --> 02:47:07,120
on the earlier on the earlier of when hand delivered,

2958
02:47:07,360 --> 02:47:11,280
when deposited with a recognized national overnight courier service, or

2959
02:47:11,319 --> 02:47:14,239
when received by mail. So wait a minute, it's effective

2960
02:47:14,520 --> 02:47:19,959
on either when it's hand delivered or when deposited, or

2961
02:47:20,040 --> 02:47:22,600
when received by mail. So when is it? When? Is

2962
02:47:22,639 --> 02:47:25,959
it effective any number of times? I mean it's like

2963
02:47:26,040 --> 02:47:28,200
can be effective any time, and it also is never

2964
02:47:28,239 --> 02:47:35,200
effective right miscellaneous. A. This agreement and the document's reference

2965
02:47:35,239 --> 02:47:38,639
here and contain the entire agreement and understanding, and it

2966
02:47:38,719 --> 02:47:44,239
shall supersede all prior agreements or understandings concerning the subject

2967
02:47:44,319 --> 02:47:49,239
matter hereof between the parties here too. No waiver, termination,

2968
02:47:49,479 --> 02:47:52,280
or discharge this agreement, or any of the terms or

2969
02:47:52,319 --> 02:47:56,520
provisions hereof shall be binding upon either party here too,

2970
02:47:56,760 --> 02:48:02,040
unless confirmed in writing. This agreement may not be modified

2971
02:48:02,520 --> 02:48:07,239
or amended. Huh may not be modified. This agreement may

2972
02:48:07,479 --> 02:48:12,159
not be modified or amended except by writing executed by

2973
02:48:12,239 --> 02:48:16,639
both parties. No waiver by either party of any term

2974
02:48:17,040 --> 02:48:20,200
or provision of this agreement, or of any default here

2975
02:48:20,360 --> 02:48:27,159
under show affects such parties rights hereafter hereafter to enforce

2976
02:48:27,680 --> 02:48:32,079
such term or provision, or to exercise any right or

2977
02:48:32,639 --> 02:48:40,479
remedy any event of any other default, whether or not similar. B.

2978
02:48:41,680 --> 02:48:44,440
Speaker 7: What is this agreement of product of SHID what is

2979
02:48:44,520 --> 02:48:45,120
this agreement?

2980
02:48:45,159 --> 02:48:48,520
Speaker 3: Of product of This agreement is a product of arms

2981
02:48:48,680 --> 02:48:55,440
length negotiations between Wrestler and w c Wrestler expressly states

2982
02:48:55,479 --> 02:48:58,559
that he has had the opportunity to seek and obtain

2983
02:48:58,680 --> 02:49:03,799
consultation in connection with the Negotiation and Executions Agreement, and

2984
02:49:03,840 --> 02:49:07,639
how he fully understands the rights and obligations set forth

2985
02:49:07,680 --> 02:49:12,600
here in in the Construction and Interpretations Agreement. Now account

2986
02:49:12,760 --> 02:49:16,719
shall be taking of which party requested or drafted any

2987
02:49:16,799 --> 02:49:21,639
particular provision or provisions of this agreement, regardless of the

2988
02:49:21,680 --> 02:49:25,719
place of execution hereof this agreement. In all amendments here too,

2989
02:49:26,200 --> 02:49:30,440
shall be deemed who have been negotiated, made entered into,

2990
02:49:30,600 --> 02:49:34,239
and fully performed in the State of Georgia, without regard

2991
02:49:34,360 --> 02:49:38,239
to the actual location at which Wrestler provides services a WCW.

2992
02:49:39,280 --> 02:49:43,120
This agreement shall be governed by and construed exclusively in

2993
02:49:43,200 --> 02:49:46,520
accordance with the laws of the State of Georgia applicable

2994
02:49:46,840 --> 02:49:51,920
to contracts made, entered into, and performed entirety entirely therein,

2995
02:49:52,440 --> 02:49:57,319
without giving effect to its conflict of laws provisions. Wrestler

2996
02:49:57,719 --> 02:50:00,920
and w CW here by submit to the urisdiction of

2997
02:50:01,040 --> 02:50:05,040
the United States District Court from the Northern District of Georgia,

2998
02:50:05,360 --> 02:50:08,680
and if any Georgia State Court sitting in Atlanta, for

2999
02:50:08,840 --> 02:50:15,559
the purposes of all legal proceedings arising out of or

3000
02:50:15,680 --> 02:50:18,000
relating to disagree.

3001
02:50:17,479 --> 02:50:20,280
Speaker 7: So taking a long time to get sid to quote,

3002
02:50:20,559 --> 02:50:23,600
submit to the jurisdiction of the Old States for sure.

3003
02:50:25,600 --> 02:50:30,959
Speaker 3: And irrevocably waive, to the fullest extent permitted by law,

3004
02:50:31,479 --> 02:50:37,319
any objection which it may now or hereafter have to

3005
02:50:37,440 --> 02:50:41,319
the venue or of any such proceeding which is brought

3006
02:50:41,520 --> 02:50:46,040
in such a court. Additionally, the parties here to you

3007
02:50:46,120 --> 02:50:50,360
agree that the state of Georgia shall be the exclusive forum.

3008
02:50:51,079 --> 02:50:57,799
And I don't know what that says. Sidis sets site

3009
02:50:58,079 --> 02:51:04,840
cirrus sinus. This is a forum and bullshit for the

3010
02:51:04,920 --> 02:51:09,600
resolution of any and all disputes, controversies, or matters arising

3011
02:51:09,719 --> 02:51:14,239
here from and related here too. Wrestler's home base is

3012
02:51:14,280 --> 02:51:18,200
identified solely for travel purposes, and shall not affect the

3013
02:51:18,399 --> 02:51:25,399
choice of law, jurisdiction, or venue here under. The parties

3014
02:51:25,440 --> 02:51:30,040
further agree, notwithstanding the consideration provided for here here in

3015
02:51:30,920 --> 02:51:34,159
that because of the special, unique, and extraordinary nature of

3016
02:51:34,200 --> 02:51:37,040
the services here under and of the rights and licenses

3017
02:51:37,120 --> 02:51:40,879
which are the subject matter of this agreement. WCW shall

3018
02:51:40,959 --> 02:51:45,479
be entitled to injunctives an other equitable relief to prevent

3019
02:51:45,680 --> 02:51:49,520
any breach by the or default by wrestlers here under,

3020
02:51:50,559 --> 02:51:54,000
and such relief shall be without prejudice to any other

3021
02:51:54,239 --> 02:51:59,239
rights or remedies of WCW as may be provided by law.

3022
02:52:00,920 --> 02:52:04,319
WSW may here by a sign it's rights and delegate

3023
02:52:04,360 --> 02:52:09,879
its obligations under this agreement, And if such a signee

3024
02:52:09,879 --> 02:52:18,639
shall assume wsw's obligations in writing, WCW shall have no

3025
02:52:19,520 --> 02:52:22,280
further obligations to restless.

3026
02:52:23,200 --> 02:52:26,239
Speaker 7: And that would come into the place and they sell

3027
02:52:26,280 --> 02:52:26,600
the COB.

3028
02:52:27,479 --> 02:52:30,559
Speaker 3: I want to tell you right now, I want to

3029
02:52:30,600 --> 02:52:38,239
put it this way. Wrestler has no obligation whatsoever. You're

3030
02:52:38,280 --> 02:52:43,440
in here too in any other fashion to w CW.

3031
02:52:44,200 --> 02:52:47,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like the final sentence of sid's contract is, wrestler

3032
02:52:47,239 --> 02:52:49,719
has no obligation to follow the terms set out above.

3033
02:52:52,079 --> 02:52:54,399
Speaker 3: Like some fucking ass clown took the time to write

3034
02:52:54,399 --> 02:52:56,959
out this whole fucking thing, and at the very bottom

3035
02:52:57,040 --> 02:53:01,079
they add wrestlers in their obligation to follow any of

3036
02:53:01,120 --> 02:53:01,719
the rules above.

3037
02:53:02,120 --> 02:53:04,319
Speaker 7: Well, hey, you want to get SID signature on the contract.

3038
02:53:04,399 --> 02:53:05,280
That's what you got to put in there.

3039
02:53:05,360 --> 02:53:09,360
Speaker 3: There you go. Wrestler may not assign this agreement in

3040
02:53:09,520 --> 02:53:13,079
whole or in part without the prior written consent of

3041
02:53:13,319 --> 02:53:17,799
ww and any attempted assignment not in accordance here with

3042
02:53:18,319 --> 02:53:20,879
shall be no and void, and of no force or

3043
02:53:20,920 --> 02:53:25,559
effort or effect. Rather, this agreement shall be binding on

3044
02:53:25,559 --> 02:53:28,760
a wrestler and his successors, and permitted as sigence. What

3045
02:53:28,799 --> 02:53:32,479
does that mean? Successors? So we're gonna fucking take this

3046
02:53:32,760 --> 02:53:36,399
contract on if he what goes away?

3047
02:53:36,920 --> 02:53:39,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, because it says there that you know he can

3048
02:53:39,239 --> 02:53:43,440
assign this agreement. Uh, if he has written consent, so

3049
02:53:43,639 --> 02:53:45,399
he can almost say like here.

3050
02:53:45,360 --> 02:53:48,639
Speaker 3: I want to give this contract to Frank exactly exactly yes,

3051
02:53:50,280 --> 02:53:52,200
and you can follow Frank because he delivers being the

3052
02:53:52,280 --> 02:53:56,200
sausages to the to the to the cathedral.

3053
02:53:58,079 --> 02:54:01,840
Speaker 7: And so if that's where to happen. This clause make

3054
02:54:01,920 --> 02:54:03,760
sure that the rest of this contract applies to Frank

3055
02:54:03,799 --> 02:54:05,159
and equal amounts as does SID.

3056
02:54:06,479 --> 02:54:10,520
Speaker 3: Nothing here in shall be deemed to obligate WWUS services

3057
02:54:10,559 --> 02:54:14,399
of wrestler, and w CWS shall have fully discharged obligations

3058
02:54:14,440 --> 02:54:17,200
here under by paying the amount specified here in.

3059
02:54:17,559 --> 02:54:21,159
Speaker 7: Nothing herein shall be deemed to obligate WCW Man. I

3060
02:54:21,200 --> 02:54:22,360
don't know how we let that one through.

3061
02:54:23,040 --> 02:54:27,079
Speaker 3: I know seriously, with respect to ww's rights here under,

3062
02:54:27,680 --> 02:54:30,879
WW shall have the sole right and discretion to bring

3063
02:54:31,000 --> 02:54:35,120
any and all claims, including but not limited to infringement

3064
02:54:35,520 --> 02:54:40,559
or unfair competition claims. The headings contained herein are for

3065
02:54:40,680 --> 02:54:43,879
the convenience of the parties only, and shall not be

3066
02:54:44,040 --> 02:54:47,319
interpreted to limit or effect in any way the meaning

3067
02:54:47,360 --> 02:54:51,200
of the language containing this agreement. This agreement may be

3068
02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:55,760
executed in one or more counterparts, each of which shall

3069
02:54:55,840 --> 02:54:58,799
be deemed to be an original, but all of which

3070
02:54:58,879 --> 02:55:04,159
together shall constitut this same agreement. Any signature page of

3071
02:55:04,239 --> 02:55:14,159
any such counterpart, or any electronic facimly thereof, may be

3072
02:55:14,360 --> 02:55:19,399
attached or appended to any other counterpart to complete a

3073
02:55:19,559 --> 02:55:23,680
fully executed counterpart of this agreement, and any telecopy or

3074
02:55:23,719 --> 02:55:31,079
any other fimile transmission of any signature shall be deemed

3075
02:55:31,120 --> 02:55:36,799
an original and shall bind such party. If any provision

3076
02:55:36,799 --> 02:55:42,319
of this agreement shall be held void, voidable, invalid, or inoperative,

3077
02:55:42,959 --> 02:55:45,719
no other provision of this agreement shall be affected as

3078
02:55:45,760 --> 02:55:49,600
a result thereof, And accordingly, the remaining provisions of this

3079
02:55:49,799 --> 02:55:55,760
agreement shall remain in full force an effect as though

3080
02:55:55,920 --> 02:56:00,680
such void, avoidable, invalid, or an operative provision had not

3081
02:56:00,920 --> 02:56:02,159
been contained here in.

3082
02:56:02,520 --> 02:56:04,479
Speaker 7: It's one that I don't know. I don't recall that

3083
02:56:04,559 --> 02:56:06,840
being in Hogan's contract, and that would been pretty important place.

3084
02:56:06,879 --> 02:56:09,879
I claim that you invalidate this part, the whole contract

3085
02:56:09,959 --> 02:56:10,639
goes out the window.

3086
02:56:13,000 --> 02:56:17,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Upon the request ww Wrestler agrees

3087
02:56:18,040 --> 02:56:21,680
to take any and all actions, including without limitation, the

3088
02:56:21,760 --> 02:56:27,639
execution of certificates, documents, or instruments, necessary or appropriate, to

3089
02:56:27,799 --> 02:56:31,600
give effect to the terms and conditions set forth in

3090
02:56:31,680 --> 02:56:36,879
this agreement. Notwithstanding any termination this agreement, all provisions which,

3091
02:56:37,280 --> 02:56:42,399
by their terms or reasonable interpretation thereof, sets forth obligations

3092
02:56:42,760 --> 02:56:47,680
that extend beyond the termination disagreement hereof, shall survive and

3093
02:56:47,879 --> 02:56:53,799
remain in full force and effect, in witness whereof the

3094
02:56:53,920 --> 02:56:58,639
parties here too have executed or caused their duly authorized

3095
02:56:59,000 --> 02:57:03,319
representatives to execute disagreement to be effective on this day

3096
02:57:03,680 --> 02:57:11,000
and year first written above Raster Sydney r U d WCW.

3097
02:57:12,120 --> 02:57:12,319
Speaker 8: WOW.

3098
02:57:14,239 --> 02:57:17,000
Speaker 7: So we have our exhibit, and I'll wrap the contract

3099
02:57:17,680 --> 02:57:21,719
of Jesus in WCW. I think the terms are well

3100
02:57:21,799 --> 02:57:24,559
laid out now, Boss, I think we have any guess,

3101
02:57:24,600 --> 02:57:27,760
Oh yeah, Jesus, the rules of engagement and the payment

3102
02:57:27,840 --> 02:57:29,600
on the line, and what's on the line for Sid,

3103
02:57:30,000 --> 02:57:33,200
particularly as it regards pay per view appearances. We have

3104
02:57:33,280 --> 02:57:36,040
a very clear idea of what's in it for Sid

3105
02:57:36,520 --> 02:57:39,879
making a PPV shot and what do you know? His

3106
02:57:40,120 --> 02:57:44,799
WCW return would in fact come on a pay per

3107
02:57:44,879 --> 02:57:47,600
view event, so he's cashing those checks early and often.

3108
02:57:48,440 --> 02:57:51,120
It's the Great American Bash nineteen ninety nine, one of

3109
02:57:51,159 --> 02:57:54,559
the worst pay per views in WCW history, Is it really?

3110
02:57:54,760 --> 02:57:55,959
Speaker 3: I've never seen it, yep.

3111
02:57:56,639 --> 02:58:00,879
Speaker 7: And it's in this context where Sid makes his return

3112
02:58:02,159 --> 02:58:03,319
World Championship Wrestley.

3113
02:58:07,440 --> 02:58:19,120
Speaker 18: Down here Savage Nash, Heavin Nash holding the ribs, pulls

3114
02:58:19,159 --> 02:58:19,959
down the singlet.

3115
02:58:22,239 --> 02:58:24,719
Speaker 4: He's going for the Jack Nag power bomb.

3116
02:58:26,159 --> 02:58:30,760
Speaker 16: But a lot of people out with Beth that's what

3117
02:58:30,959 --> 02:58:32,360
does that kicks the ribs again.

3118
02:58:33,680 --> 02:58:35,959
Speaker 7: To do so was one of a lot of gorgeous

3119
02:58:36,000 --> 02:58:39,200
George Savage's entourage, a lot with Molly Holly as well

3120
02:58:41,559 --> 02:58:42,479
as Miss Madness.

3121
02:58:42,520 --> 02:58:43,600
Speaker 16: George goes down.

3122
02:58:46,559 --> 02:58:51,360
Speaker 4: Savage and the doors around Miss Madness up top.

3123
02:58:53,120 --> 02:58:53,399
Speaker 3: Savin.

3124
02:58:53,559 --> 02:58:54,920
Speaker 16: There's a bit champ its gunner.

3125
02:58:56,399 --> 02:59:02,559
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, us with sneak guys on, miss man, he's

3126
02:59:02,639 --> 02:59:03,799
got somebody in the land.

3127
02:59:04,440 --> 02:59:06,440
Speaker 4: H my god, look who that is?

3128
02:59:07,479 --> 02:59:09,440
Speaker 10: Oh my god, what he's doing here?

3129
02:59:09,680 --> 02:59:13,079
Speaker 4: It said decius, you've gotta be kidding.

3130
02:59:14,879 --> 02:59:18,920
Speaker 16: Then there's one bad customer right there. Guys that there's.

3131
02:59:18,799 --> 02:59:21,799
Speaker 4: One bad, bad man, one bad bad.

3132
02:59:21,639 --> 02:59:26,200
Speaker 13: Man, maybe one of the baddest head of nowhere, said

3133
02:59:26,319 --> 02:59:32,680
Dishes walks in. You're talking about a man who's picks.

3134
02:59:35,760 --> 02:59:39,319
He's gonna try the power bomb, and then he's already entered.

3135
02:59:39,520 --> 02:59:40,440
Speaker 12: He came at and.

3136
02:59:40,520 --> 02:59:41,399
Speaker 16: They can't take that.

3137
02:59:41,920 --> 02:59:43,360
Speaker 7: Kevin Ash power bombed.

3138
02:59:43,559 --> 02:59:44,040
Speaker 3: Jesus.

3139
02:59:44,440 --> 02:59:44,719
Speaker 4: Wow.

3140
02:59:45,079 --> 02:59:48,840
Speaker 16: Oh he's one sick individual. This man is looking looking

3141
02:59:48,840 --> 02:59:52,040
at him. Oh, yes, he's he's psychonic. That's exactly what

3142
02:59:52,200 --> 02:59:56,920
he is. He's full blown nuts. And just maybe if

3143
02:59:56,959 --> 02:59:59,719
I could speckylate, do you think it was this is

3144
02:59:59,799 --> 03:00:03,040
the the wheel, honey, that's the good one.

3145
03:00:03,120 --> 03:00:07,440
Speaker 19: Though now it makes sense, it seems to, but sometimes

3146
03:00:07,479 --> 03:00:08,959
you get thrown lodging out the window.

3147
03:00:11,920 --> 03:00:14,920
Speaker 18: Is he the newest member of Team Savage as it

3148
03:00:15,000 --> 03:00:15,760
sure looks like it?

3149
03:00:16,959 --> 03:00:24,159
Speaker 20: For Version still waiting and defunding w fee wr own

3150
03:00:24,600 --> 03:00:26,719
herby wait taping of the world.

3151
03:00:27,600 --> 03:00:28,479
Speaker 16: Big fe fee.

3152
03:00:33,520 --> 03:00:37,600
Speaker 19: The last thing we expected. The most shot e turn

3153
03:00:37,719 --> 03:00:41,200
events tonight was Sid Vicious.

3154
03:00:42,600 --> 03:00:45,959
Speaker 13: The much of a man is the nut case that

3155
03:00:46,280 --> 03:00:50,360
is one of the most lethal men into wrestling, walks

3156
03:00:50,479 --> 03:00:53,479
back into WCW helping Randy.

3157
03:00:53,360 --> 03:00:57,440
Speaker 19: Savage, further hurting the rints of a man who's still

3158
03:00:57,520 --> 03:01:01,799
the world heavyweight Champion for Mike Today, Bobby's Green Unit

3159
03:01:02,040 --> 03:01:03,559
We've seen tomorrow night Trove.

3160
03:01:05,040 --> 03:01:07,360
Speaker 16: Have a good night from the Great American.

3161
03:01:07,000 --> 03:01:10,200
Speaker 7: Bash Well sids back.

3162
03:01:12,680 --> 03:01:15,280
Speaker 3: I remember that, you know, the only reason I remember

3163
03:01:15,319 --> 03:01:18,840
that pay per view I never saw it. I just

3164
03:01:19,000 --> 03:01:23,719
remember the it for some reason. I don't know why,

3165
03:01:24,639 --> 03:01:30,760
But during that during those summers in early college, and

3166
03:01:30,840 --> 03:01:35,239
I'd go on those those you know, ram pages of

3167
03:01:35,319 --> 03:01:39,040
video stores to copies as many old wrestling tapes as possible.

3168
03:01:41,000 --> 03:01:44,959
That one was always for sale. Bash ninety nine they

3169
03:01:45,040 --> 03:01:47,600
had so many copies, like the three or four copies

3170
03:01:47,639 --> 03:01:50,719
available at every fucking blockbuster of that show.

3171
03:01:52,959 --> 03:01:53,360
Speaker 8: So weird.

3172
03:01:53,559 --> 03:01:55,280
Speaker 7: It was weird. They got their home video game up

3173
03:01:55,920 --> 03:01:59,559
way late too, you know, in their peak, like during anwopeak. Yeah,

3174
03:01:59,760 --> 03:02:02,200
it wasn't easy to find ww pay per views on vhs.

3175
03:02:02,559 --> 03:02:05,239
They had like these old ones. You know, it's Spring

3176
03:02:05,360 --> 03:02:06,239
Stampede ninety four.

3177
03:02:06,280 --> 03:02:06,520
Speaker 3: Forever.

3178
03:02:06,600 --> 03:02:08,200
Speaker 7: We've talked about this over the years on the show,

3179
03:02:09,360 --> 03:02:11,840
like best of Sting and like these random VHS releases,

3180
03:02:12,719 --> 03:02:14,360
but as far as like predictably being able to get

3181
03:02:14,399 --> 03:02:17,120
every monthly WW pay per view on cassette, it wasn't

3182
03:02:17,120 --> 03:02:19,239
easy to find in the video stores. Some rentals stores

3183
03:02:19,280 --> 03:02:22,559
had him, but I remember this this time period, like

3184
03:02:22,600 --> 03:02:24,440
you could buy him at Suncoast, you know what I mean?

3185
03:02:25,479 --> 03:02:26,200
Speaker 3: Right exactly?

3186
03:02:26,680 --> 03:02:29,719
Speaker 7: And so uh too little, too late. It's pretty remarkable.

3187
03:02:29,719 --> 03:02:31,479
You think of the fingerpoke of Doom kicking off nineteen

3188
03:02:31,559 --> 03:02:33,879
ninety nine and Kevin Nash kind of gifting the world

3189
03:02:33,959 --> 03:02:36,120
title to Hulk Cogan and the nWo reforming in the

3190
03:02:36,159 --> 03:02:38,879
Georgia Dome, and just like you know, five months later,

3191
03:02:39,040 --> 03:02:43,360
Nash's world champion and Hogan's gone. The nwo's dissipated ww'

3192
03:02:43,360 --> 03:02:47,600
has been totally redesigned. Randy Savage looks like a fucking maniac.

3193
03:02:48,440 --> 03:02:50,200
Speaker 3: Oh you I mean, just a complete psychopaths.

3194
03:02:50,239 --> 03:02:52,200
Speaker 7: I mean Nash versus Savage in a pay per view

3195
03:02:52,239 --> 03:02:55,399
main event. Did you hear the reference there on commentary?

3196
03:02:55,520 --> 03:02:57,559
Perhaps he was the one behind the wheel, did you hear.

3197
03:02:57,520 --> 03:03:00,239
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, don't.

3198
03:03:00,239 --> 03:03:02,639
Speaker 7: That's a reference to No. Have you ever heard about

3199
03:03:02,639 --> 03:03:06,799
the famous white Hummer angle Austin pretty much the famous

3200
03:03:06,840 --> 03:03:08,440
white Hummer angle WCW did.

3201
03:03:09,159 --> 03:03:10,280
Speaker 3: No, I don't know that one.

3202
03:03:10,479 --> 03:03:13,000
Speaker 7: There's just some incident before this pay per view on

3203
03:03:13,159 --> 03:03:15,399
Nitro where Nash gets into his car and a white

3204
03:03:15,479 --> 03:03:18,159
hum v comes flying into the frame and smashes into

3205
03:03:18,200 --> 03:03:20,200
the car, and they played it up like there was

3206
03:03:20,239 --> 03:03:21,959
going to be some grand mystery of who was driving

3207
03:03:22,000 --> 03:03:22,559
the white Hummer.

3208
03:03:22,600 --> 03:03:24,319
Speaker 3: It's one of the great.

3209
03:03:24,440 --> 03:03:27,040
Speaker 7: Loose ends in WCW, one of the great loose ends

3210
03:03:27,079 --> 03:03:28,760
in the Monday Night Wars as far as the storyline

3211
03:03:28,840 --> 03:03:31,559
is concerned. Yeah, And they never paid it off. They

3212
03:03:31,719 --> 03:03:33,319
never got around to saying who was going to be.

3213
03:03:33,719 --> 03:03:36,360
Bischoff Is subsequently said in his podcast that they never

3214
03:03:36,440 --> 03:03:38,520
intended it to be like a murder mystery kind of thing,

3215
03:03:38,959 --> 03:03:40,840
that they just needed some reason for Kevin Nash to

3216
03:03:40,879 --> 03:03:42,319
come into the pay per view hurt, or for some

3217
03:03:42,399 --> 03:03:44,559
reason they needed Nash hurt, so they came up with

3218
03:03:44,639 --> 03:03:47,559
this thing where you know, you were supposed to infer

3219
03:03:47,680 --> 03:03:50,319
that Randy Savage hired somebody to do this to Kevin Nash.

3220
03:03:50,440 --> 03:03:52,440
But who the person was wasn't really supposed to be

3221
03:03:52,479 --> 03:03:54,760
of interest to the audience. But of course this is

3222
03:03:54,840 --> 03:03:57,600
pro wrestling, and so the who done it is one

3223
03:03:57,600 --> 03:04:00,520
of the more irresistible storylines for the fight they on.

3224
03:04:00,959 --> 03:04:03,680
So they made it a thing without wsw realizing or

3225
03:04:03,719 --> 03:04:05,600
having the foresight to realize it was going to become

3226
03:04:05,600 --> 03:04:07,639
a thing, and having a plan to deliver on a

3227
03:04:07,719 --> 03:04:10,799
mystery that actually maybe caught the attention of fans for once.

3228
03:04:10,879 --> 03:04:12,840
On like most of what they used to do, they

3229
03:04:12,879 --> 03:04:15,239
had no plan, So it's almost like they were a

3230
03:04:15,399 --> 03:04:20,159
jury rigging an explanation here in debuting sid on the

3231
03:04:20,159 --> 03:04:23,239
pay per view. Yeah, I'll say, because you heard Chavanni

3232
03:04:23,360 --> 03:04:26,000
kind of prevaricate and be like, well, you know, you

3233
03:04:26,120 --> 03:04:27,840
might have to throw logic out the window. But it

3234
03:04:27,879 --> 03:04:29,840
stands to reason that syd was behind the wheel now

3235
03:04:29,879 --> 03:04:31,920
that we see him on the scene here. But he

3236
03:04:32,040 --> 03:04:34,399
was sure to say that this is no confirmation of such,

3237
03:04:34,479 --> 03:04:37,440
because of course they had no plan on delivering on

3238
03:04:37,479 --> 03:04:39,399
the mystery of who it was. But perhaps we're feeling

3239
03:04:39,399 --> 03:04:41,879
the pressure of not having an answer to that question

3240
03:04:41,959 --> 03:04:43,600
and the fin interest in it, and maybe thought that

3241
03:04:43,639 --> 03:04:48,600
that would suffice so kind of an illustrative illusion there

3242
03:04:48,680 --> 03:04:51,879
made by Tony Shavanni to one of the many botched

3243
03:04:51,920 --> 03:04:54,440
and goofy things going on at World Championship Wrestling at

3244
03:04:54,479 --> 03:04:56,840
the time. But there he is, and he power bombs

3245
03:04:56,920 --> 03:04:59,280
Nash one hundred percent. Man, he gets them up better

3246
03:04:59,319 --> 03:05:00,719
than he ever did in the WWF ring.

3247
03:05:00,760 --> 03:05:03,319
Speaker 3: I can tell you that it's funny how they couldn't

3248
03:05:03,319 --> 03:05:05,559
do that when it fucking mattered at pay per view

3249
03:05:05,600 --> 03:05:09,159
that time, right, I know, But the idiot are going to.

3250
03:05:09,159 --> 03:05:11,639
Speaker 7: Get another try at it. And as Tony Shivani said

3251
03:05:11,639 --> 03:05:12,799
at the wrap of the pay per view, we'll see

3252
03:05:12,799 --> 03:05:14,680
you the next night on Nitro to sort it all out.

3253
03:05:15,159 --> 03:05:17,959
And indeed we did, as sit in Nash come face

3254
03:05:18,040 --> 03:05:19,360
to face all these years later.

3255
03:05:20,280 --> 03:05:22,239
Speaker 21: When I didn't come out here tonight to talk to

3256
03:05:22,399 --> 03:05:33,200
macho man, I came out here tonight to talk to you, Sid.

3257
03:05:39,719 --> 03:05:42,000
Speaker 16: I don't know where the hell you've been, and I

3258
03:05:42,079 --> 03:05:42,920
don't really care.

3259
03:05:43,559 --> 03:05:45,879
Speaker 22: I know you're in the building, and I watch you

3260
03:05:46,120 --> 03:05:53,479
tonight for this strap and this root now straps really yes, we.

3261
03:05:53,600 --> 03:05:56,399
Speaker 16: Know he's heir toe and he says, tonight, I wanted.

3262
03:05:56,200 --> 03:05:58,520
Speaker 22: To be coming behind give me a kick in the

3263
03:05:58,600 --> 03:06:02,639
face and power Bob, Well, big boy, bring it tonight

3264
03:06:02,760 --> 03:06:04,280
because I'm here to kick your.

3265
03:06:04,239 --> 03:06:12,479
Speaker 16: Asss I think mister Nash is ted serious.

3266
03:06:17,559 --> 03:06:22,639
Speaker 22: So Sid even with these sweet sandals on, come on

3267
03:06:22,840 --> 03:06:26,040
down because I'm ready to give you a good old

3268
03:06:26,239 --> 03:06:26,959
beating boy.

3269
03:06:28,719 --> 03:06:29,600
Speaker 7: Okay, say it again.

3270
03:06:36,600 --> 03:06:38,959
Speaker 4: See Nash, I know you're real well.

3271
03:06:39,920 --> 03:06:43,680
Speaker 16: I do exactly what button to brush. He looks as

3272
03:06:43,760 --> 03:06:45,879
if last night I pushed the right.

3273
03:06:45,799 --> 03:06:49,000
Speaker 20: Button, my friend, because you have now made the biggest

3274
03:06:49,040 --> 03:06:50,159
mistake of your life.

3275
03:06:52,200 --> 03:06:56,120
Speaker 2: Mistake of your life. You didn't invite the devil down

3276
03:06:56,479 --> 03:06:56,959
to death.

3277
03:06:57,159 --> 03:07:01,280
Speaker 16: Tonight, I will take this in the taste you, my friend.

3278
03:07:01,319 --> 03:07:02,399
Speaker 3: To come down and think.

3279
03:07:02,520 --> 03:07:03,520
Speaker 4: What is mine?

3280
03:07:04,920 --> 03:07:07,639
Speaker 16: And I will start with you tonight and I want

3281
03:07:07,680 --> 03:07:11,520
to hit with you and so Dash, can you take

3282
03:07:11,639 --> 03:07:12,840
it all away?

3283
03:07:17,840 --> 03:07:19,159
Speaker 7: Can you take it all the way?

3284
03:07:22,360 --> 03:07:24,360
Speaker 16: You've been off way more than you can Chew.

3285
03:07:24,959 --> 03:07:27,799
Speaker 22: I'll see you here tonight, and I'll tell you one

3286
03:07:27,879 --> 03:07:30,559
thing big sexy is walking out with the gold.

3287
03:07:31,360 --> 03:07:35,559
Speaker 4: That's it tonight. You've got it. It is really odd.

3288
03:07:36,120 --> 03:07:39,159
Speaker 18: The world Heavy White Title up programs two of the

3289
03:07:39,280 --> 03:07:41,639
biggest toughest men in this sport.

3290
03:07:41,920 --> 03:07:44,159
Speaker 7: And this being WCW. In nineteen ninety nine, they came

3291
03:07:44,200 --> 03:07:47,360
out later in the episode, brawled a bit, Sting got involved,

3292
03:07:47,479 --> 03:07:50,159
clotheslined him over the top of jeans. Sid that is,

3293
03:07:51,239 --> 03:07:53,280
and it becomes very clear that the WCW had no

3294
03:07:53,399 --> 03:07:56,079
intention whatsoever of delivering Nash versus Sid on this night.

3295
03:07:56,239 --> 03:07:56,360
Speaker 8: Row.

3296
03:07:57,239 --> 03:08:01,479
Speaker 3: More importantly to you, though, What'spishoff doing on comment.

3297
03:08:01,239 --> 03:08:04,959
Speaker 7: Tear while trying to salvage WCW. This is that really

3298
03:08:05,000 --> 03:08:06,520
short period of time where he was still kind of

3299
03:08:06,559 --> 03:08:08,600
pop poking his head out before Russo came in.

3300
03:08:09,520 --> 03:08:11,319
Speaker 3: I didn't really know that he was doing that. I

3301
03:08:11,360 --> 03:08:13,760
didn't know. I mean, listen, I heard him on the

3302
03:08:13,840 --> 03:08:16,600
fucking I'm a VHS with Hogan on commentary and like,

3303
03:08:16,680 --> 03:08:18,040
what the fuck is going on here?

3304
03:08:18,520 --> 03:08:20,760
Speaker 7: Yeah? He comes back in ninety nine with the white hair,

3305
03:08:20,840 --> 03:08:24,200
and he does a couple of angles and he tries

3306
03:08:24,239 --> 03:08:26,719
a couple of things to get Nitro going again. He

3307
03:08:27,159 --> 03:08:30,319
rejoins the Announced team, perhaps to bring back some of

3308
03:08:30,360 --> 03:08:32,120
that spark when he was on the Announced team during

3309
03:08:32,159 --> 03:08:34,440
the you know ww's insurgent days.

3310
03:08:34,479 --> 03:08:37,440
Speaker 3: Yes, how can he do that? How does he rationalize

3311
03:08:37,479 --> 03:08:40,920
that after nWo? Yeah?

3312
03:08:41,000 --> 03:08:43,399
Speaker 7: No, he just comes out. He comes out at Springstampede

3313
03:08:43,399 --> 03:08:46,559
and April after nWo reforms and it has like crosswords

3314
03:08:46,600 --> 03:08:49,000
with Hull Cogan, and it's supposed to indicate that there's

3315
03:08:49,040 --> 03:08:50,959
been some tension behind the scenes between the two and

3316
03:08:51,280 --> 03:08:54,040
that their old alliance has now been fractured. That he's

3317
03:08:54,120 --> 03:08:57,079
kind of like, okay, that he wasn't really clued into

3318
03:08:57,079 --> 03:08:58,399
the reformation of the nWo.

3319
03:08:58,639 --> 03:09:00,559
Speaker 3: He wasn't in on that.

3320
03:09:01,280 --> 03:09:03,200
Speaker 7: I mean they did, they didn't specify too much. He

3321
03:09:03,239 --> 03:09:05,799
just showed up and hardly said anything because they wanted

3322
03:09:05,840 --> 03:09:07,760
to transition back into him just being an announcer as

3323
03:09:07,799 --> 03:09:11,159
opposed to a character, a storyline character and.

3324
03:09:11,280 --> 03:09:12,639
Speaker 3: Just eat and then all just seems lame.

3325
03:09:12,760 --> 03:09:16,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, And come September, he's getting sent home by by

3326
03:09:17,000 --> 03:09:20,159
Bill Bush, who brings in well by Harvey Schiller, and

3327
03:09:20,200 --> 03:09:25,559
then Bill Bush brings in Vince Russo, and then eventually

3328
03:09:25,600 --> 03:09:29,280
it brings Bischoff back. In April, Brad Siegel does Brad

3329
03:09:29,280 --> 03:09:32,040
Siegel also involved. I think Brad Siegel took over from

3330
03:09:32,360 --> 03:09:34,879
Harvey Schiller and then Brad Siegel sent Bischoff home. I

3331
03:09:34,879 --> 03:09:37,440
think it's how it went in September of nineteen ninety nine.

3332
03:09:37,719 --> 03:09:40,719
So this is really the last vestiges, the last fumes

3333
03:09:40,760 --> 03:09:44,879
of Bischoff and that initial WCW run. But yeah, I mean,

3334
03:09:44,959 --> 03:09:46,959
just so Nitro to do a promo like that at

3335
03:09:46,959 --> 03:09:49,000
the top of the show, to have Britt Bischoff expressly

3336
03:09:49,120 --> 03:09:51,440
say that National said, you know, there's buzz about Sid

3337
03:09:51,520 --> 03:09:54,399
coming into WCWS. I talked about the Nation said we're

3338
03:09:54,399 --> 03:09:56,159
going to wrestle that night a Nitro for the title.

3339
03:09:56,319 --> 03:09:57,600
And they get in the ring and just have a

3340
03:09:57,680 --> 03:10:00,760
brawl and Sting comes and there's the doesn't even ring.

3341
03:10:01,159 --> 03:10:02,559
There really even is no match.

3342
03:10:03,680 --> 03:10:05,319
Speaker 3: I mean you know that. I mean, why are you

3343
03:10:05,399 --> 03:10:08,680
surprised they did that so often? Right, and they could

3344
03:10:08,680 --> 03:10:11,840
at least afford it. You should not even I mean

3345
03:10:11,959 --> 03:10:13,920
especially you should not even have I have thought there

3346
03:10:14,000 --> 03:10:15,600
was going to be a match. You should have presumed

3347
03:10:16,600 --> 03:10:17,799
it was going to be a Schmaus.

3348
03:10:17,959 --> 03:10:20,719
Speaker 7: Yes, right, And looking more closely at the dates, the

3349
03:10:21,040 --> 03:10:22,920
Great American Bash where we just heard Sid return was

3350
03:10:23,000 --> 03:10:25,399
June seventh of nineteen ninety nine, and the contract we

3351
03:10:25,479 --> 03:10:28,319
just read into the record this June ninth, nineteen ninety nine,

3352
03:10:28,399 --> 03:10:31,360
so he's not under a valid contract at the time

3353
03:10:31,399 --> 03:10:34,479
he appeared. Wow, I'm sure that was a retroactive payday

3354
03:10:34,520 --> 03:10:34,840
for him.

3355
03:10:35,319 --> 03:10:37,760
Speaker 3: So if we're uh fifty fifty grand.

3356
03:10:38,360 --> 03:10:40,799
Speaker 7: If we're ready, we've hit the point and our journey

3357
03:10:40,879 --> 03:10:45,239
to turn to the millennium Man WCWVHS release Boss. Let's

3358
03:10:45,319 --> 03:10:48,200
fucking fire up that Superstar series. Consider this one of

3359
03:10:48,239 --> 03:10:51,200
the deep dives in our SID tribune, alongside the February seventeenth,

3360
03:10:51,280 --> 03:10:53,719
nineteen ninety seven Monday Night Raw. This really gets us

3361
03:10:53,719 --> 03:10:57,639
acquainted with sid's essence during this WCW run, and we

3362
03:10:57,799 --> 03:11:01,000
open on these marble column things with some footage.

3363
03:11:01,360 --> 03:11:03,639
Speaker 3: Well, hold on, first of all, this is this is

3364
03:11:04,959 --> 03:11:06,719
I want to just say, I want to preface. I

3365
03:11:06,760 --> 03:11:08,479
had no idea what to expect with this fucking thing,

3366
03:11:09,360 --> 03:11:15,680
and I don't like. We got so many company logos.

3367
03:11:16,840 --> 03:11:20,280
I was blown away by it. There's the Warner Brothers

3368
03:11:20,319 --> 03:11:26,239
home video logo, which I expected, Then there's w CW

3369
03:11:26,440 --> 03:11:32,520
the Spaceship logo, and then there was the Mandalay Pictures

3370
03:11:32,719 --> 03:11:35,920
one which I was not expecting at all, which is

3371
03:11:36,000 --> 03:11:39,760
the Tiger uh running in the jungle.

3372
03:11:39,920 --> 03:11:41,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's hard to see in a wrestling tape.

3373
03:11:42,520 --> 03:11:45,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm trying to think of who who

3374
03:11:45,520 --> 03:11:52,040
owns them and why they would have man lay Peter

3375
03:11:52,120 --> 03:12:00,799
Gouber of all fucking people. Lions Gate owned by Sony.

3376
03:12:01,000 --> 03:12:04,479
Speaker 7: Is it Turner Home Entertainment at the time, No, because

3377
03:12:04,520 --> 03:12:09,159
Peter Gouber was something mighty Bischoff would hunh, Peter Grueber, Goober,

3378
03:12:09,200 --> 03:12:10,959
is that what it is? Yeah, Peter Goober and someone

3379
03:12:11,000 --> 03:12:13,239
Bishoff would bring up after w CW folded as someone

3380
03:12:13,280 --> 03:12:16,399
that was potentially interested in financing a purchase.

3381
03:12:17,120 --> 03:12:19,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm sure he was not under man Peter

3382
03:12:19,680 --> 03:12:21,760
Peter Guber. We talked about Peter Geoberg quite a bit

3383
03:12:21,840 --> 03:12:26,639
on cinemat He's one of the people who you know,

3384
03:12:27,000 --> 03:12:34,280
destroyed almost destroyed Sony. But yeah, all this stuff with

3385
03:12:34,360 --> 03:12:37,680
was Sony. I don't know what the relationship is and

3386
03:12:37,840 --> 03:12:41,079
why unless they were just unless he convinced them, unless

3387
03:12:41,120 --> 03:12:42,920
Bischoff was like friends with them and convinced them that

3388
03:12:43,079 --> 03:12:49,000
to to to produce or put their name on the

3389
03:12:49,360 --> 03:12:51,200
must have distributed the like that. But it was just

3390
03:12:51,280 --> 03:12:53,399
a weird That was a weird one for me.

3391
03:12:53,680 --> 03:12:56,479
Speaker 7: Andala Entertainment is that what it is?

3392
03:12:58,040 --> 03:13:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Mandally entertainment. It's looking for any that's yeah,

3393
03:13:03,040 --> 03:13:07,840
that's Peter Gouber and that's not Again, they have no

3394
03:13:07,920 --> 03:13:12,719
affiliation with anybody. I mean, what was did did hold on?

3395
03:13:15,159 --> 03:13:15,200
Speaker 8: No?

3396
03:13:15,319 --> 03:13:21,799
Speaker 3: Because TVs, there's definitely TBS. Did they had MGM that

3397
03:13:22,000 --> 03:13:29,600
wasn't necessarily Sony. Yeah, it's a weird connection. Like I'm

3398
03:13:29,639 --> 03:13:35,200
trying to think of something that would Yeah. Yeah, there's

3399
03:13:35,200 --> 03:13:38,000
no connection there that, I mean, no superficial connection anyway.

3400
03:13:38,200 --> 03:13:41,639
Speaker 7: I think Mandally was involved in the distribution of w

3401
03:13:41,760 --> 03:13:44,959
CW home videos, perhaps after.

3402
03:13:44,840 --> 03:13:46,319
Speaker 3: Turner Home Entertainment.

3403
03:13:48,079 --> 03:13:50,639
Speaker 7: To some degree. Someone tells me that they were involved

3404
03:13:50,680 --> 03:13:52,840
in home video distribution for w STEP.

3405
03:13:52,920 --> 03:13:56,639
Speaker 3: Well, they certainly were. Obviously we're definitely seeing that. So

3406
03:13:56,760 --> 03:14:00,879
there's a connection, but it's it's it's a weird It's

3407
03:14:00,920 --> 03:14:03,000
what's weird to me is that it's coming from an

3408
03:14:03,079 --> 03:14:06,479
organization that's got nothing to do with the home base.

3409
03:14:07,680 --> 03:14:09,200
Speaker 7: With the home base. Yeah, maybe they I don't know,

3410
03:14:09,280 --> 03:14:13,000
maybe WW dial Turner Home Entertainment dialed back its VHS

3411
03:14:13,559 --> 03:14:16,520
distribution function a bit and outsourced it.

3412
03:14:16,600 --> 03:14:19,200
Speaker 3: Well, still being they're being distributed by Warner Brothers too,

3413
03:14:19,280 --> 03:14:21,040
which is the thing I whish they've done before. I've

3414
03:14:21,079 --> 03:14:24,000
seen that before. I know, Time Warner and all that shit,

3415
03:14:24,079 --> 03:14:27,440
it all, you know, that all comes into play. But

3416
03:14:27,639 --> 03:14:30,280
like Mentally, is like on the other fucking side of

3417
03:14:30,319 --> 03:14:33,319
town interesting in this regards. That's what's weird to me

3418
03:14:33,440 --> 03:14:33,719
about it.

3419
03:14:33,760 --> 03:14:37,440
Speaker 7: I see if I can find anything, because, yeah, Peter

3420
03:14:37,559 --> 03:14:42,639
Guber was somebody that before the Fusian Media Ventures Group

3421
03:14:42,719 --> 03:14:46,760
came along as an owner, as a potential buyer WCW

3422
03:14:46,959 --> 03:14:50,200
and had the purchase in sale agreement. Peter Guber and

3423
03:14:50,280 --> 03:14:55,559
Mentally Entertainment were talked about as potentially being interested in WW.

3424
03:14:56,360 --> 03:14:58,079
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just don't believe that for one second.

3425
03:14:58,120 --> 03:15:01,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was that was out there. It wasn't really ever,

3426
03:15:03,799 --> 03:15:07,159
it wasn't ever really like an exceptionally sourced rumor, but

3427
03:15:07,319 --> 03:15:10,600
there were some press trade reports. I think it was

3428
03:15:10,639 --> 03:15:13,719
even as soon as, like god, I want to say

3429
03:15:13,760 --> 03:15:15,920
the spring of two thousand, even or the summer of

3430
03:15:15,959 --> 03:15:20,360
two thousand. It was like way before the other buyers

3431
03:15:20,440 --> 03:15:24,040
came through. Is as confirmed. So it's Mandalay Entertainment, right,

3432
03:15:24,120 --> 03:15:27,040
you said, Yeah, So what I'm gonna try to do

3433
03:15:27,280 --> 03:15:29,799
is see if I can find reference to them.

3434
03:15:30,360 --> 03:15:33,479
Speaker 3: I just can't see Peter Guber. I mean, I know

3435
03:15:33,639 --> 03:15:35,520
wrestling was a hot thing and it doesn't really matter

3436
03:15:35,600 --> 03:15:39,319
what you like you're into, but like, I just can't

3437
03:15:39,319 --> 03:15:41,360
see Peter Guber being someone who was like, yeah, you know,

3438
03:15:41,399 --> 03:15:42,920
and I want to fucking buy a wrestling company.

3439
03:15:43,040 --> 03:15:45,799
Speaker 7: They were gonna, yeah, They're gonna do it in Vegas. Yeah,

3440
03:15:45,799 --> 03:15:49,840
all right, let's see television Week July thirtieth, two thousand.

3441
03:15:53,120 --> 03:15:59,520
Let's see describe our productions were rageous. Okay, Yeah. Working

3442
03:15:59,600 --> 03:16:01,680
with them on the project is Jason Hervey, who is

3443
03:16:01,719 --> 03:16:04,079
now a principal partner in the Sports Entertainment division of

3444
03:16:04,120 --> 03:16:05,040
Mandally Entertainment.

3445
03:16:05,760 --> 03:16:08,799
Speaker 3: Ah, there we go, all right, the old That explains

3446
03:16:08,799 --> 03:16:10,600
a lot, because I know I definitely saw Hervey's name

3447
03:16:10,639 --> 03:16:11,639
and the end credits of this one.

3448
03:16:12,239 --> 03:16:16,280
Speaker 7: Yep, yep, the old pal And here's another reference in

3449
03:16:16,280 --> 03:16:17,040
electronic metis.

3450
03:16:17,120 --> 03:16:20,399
Speaker 3: Now that all makes sense. Okay, So now I can

3451
03:16:20,479 --> 03:16:25,360
believe that Peter Guber could be convinced by Jason Hervey

3452
03:16:26,840 --> 03:16:30,360
to buy WCW. Just like but like Eric Bischoff talking

3453
03:16:30,399 --> 03:16:31,879
to Gouber, I'm just like, I can't think of that.

3454
03:16:31,959 --> 03:16:33,959
I'm going there as being it, like I don't buy it.

3455
03:16:34,159 --> 03:16:39,159
But now with Hervey being being involved, that makes sense,

3456
03:16:39,280 --> 03:16:39,520
got it?

3457
03:16:39,840 --> 03:16:42,760
Speaker 7: Okay, we found our missing link.

3458
03:16:43,479 --> 03:16:43,840
Speaker 3: There we go.

3459
03:16:44,440 --> 03:16:47,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, here's an article about Peter Guber from Variety, August

3460
03:16:47,239 --> 03:16:52,680
twenty third, nineteen ninety nine. It's all about Goober and

3461
03:16:52,799 --> 03:16:55,799
mentally entertainment and deep down in the story, it says,

3462
03:16:55,920 --> 03:16:58,680
as Gouber discusses plans for a new sporting facility in dayton,

3463
03:16:58,760 --> 03:17:01,360
a literacy program and a new Prince entertainment relationship with

3464
03:17:01,440 --> 03:17:04,879
World Championship Wrestling, it grows exhausting just trying to take

3465
03:17:04,920 --> 03:17:05,239
it all.

3466
03:17:05,200 --> 03:17:07,200
Speaker 3: In literacy program.

3467
03:17:07,360 --> 03:17:09,760
Speaker 7: Well, ww no, that was like part of a list

3468
03:17:09,799 --> 03:17:11,479
of things. There's a sporting faciale.

3469
03:17:11,639 --> 03:17:13,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just joking.

3470
03:17:14,079 --> 03:17:17,079
Speaker 7: Yes, I could take your shock there. So yes. They

3471
03:17:17,159 --> 03:17:19,040
open on these marble column things with some footage it

3472
03:17:19,040 --> 03:17:21,079
says ww Superstar series and it's kind of like a

3473
03:17:21,159 --> 03:17:24,440
nineteen ninety nine classic death Metal voice showing Sid power

3474
03:17:24,479 --> 03:17:27,399
bombing everyone, and it just says nineteen ninety nine in

3475
03:17:27,440 --> 03:17:30,200
the corner for some reason, and then two thousand the

3476
03:17:30,280 --> 03:17:35,360
millennium man. Yeah, so Sid, Sid has some sit down

3477
03:17:36,000 --> 03:17:36,600
things to say.

3478
03:17:37,639 --> 03:17:39,639
Speaker 3: He said, yeah, I got, I got, I got all

3479
03:17:39,760 --> 03:17:40,639
these for you.

3480
03:17:41,040 --> 03:17:43,079
Speaker 7: Let's hear from the psychotic one.

3481
03:17:44,000 --> 03:17:45,479
Speaker 3: This is the this first one.

3482
03:17:46,760 --> 03:17:47,479
Speaker 8: I haven't in.

3483
03:17:49,239 --> 03:17:52,120
Speaker 3: Three different clips, this first kind of opening bit. But

3484
03:17:52,280 --> 03:17:53,840
this is how he opens his fucking video.

3485
03:17:54,360 --> 03:17:56,319
Speaker 12: To be successful in this business, you have to be

3486
03:17:56,399 --> 03:18:02,000
able to polish and perfect all fasts, coming from all directions.

3487
03:18:02,040 --> 03:18:04,920
It either be her, the way you look, where you

3488
03:18:05,000 --> 03:18:09,079
present yourself, where you do your interviews, the where you

3489
03:18:09,479 --> 03:18:13,440
project yourself to the crowd. These things all equal one word.

3490
03:18:13,440 --> 03:18:18,360
It's called credibility. You have credibility. You can't hide it.

3491
03:18:19,000 --> 03:18:22,920
Promoters can't hide it. The resty fans too smart. They

3492
03:18:23,040 --> 03:18:27,959
see that. And that's what makes or breaks talent and

3493
03:18:28,040 --> 03:18:32,360
our business. When you talk about said Vicious all his

3494
03:18:32,520 --> 03:18:48,280
facets or finally polished, don't.

3495
03:18:43,559 --> 03:18:45,040
Speaker 3: You won't be hearing you.

3496
03:18:49,040 --> 03:18:49,760
Speaker 8: Won't be here?

3497
03:19:03,479 --> 03:19:04,120
Speaker 7: That would be true.

3498
03:19:07,520 --> 03:19:13,840
Speaker 8: Then he's the la fan.

3499
03:19:13,840 --> 03:19:29,680
Speaker 1: Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys need

3500
03:19:29,760 --> 03:19:47,799
their candy. It's the lapsed fan. He's the Lapsed Fan

3501
03:19:47,879 --> 03:19:52,120
Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carneo and Jpi Soro.

3502
03:19:52,639 --> 03:19:55,399
Speaker 3: I want to say so. He says, Goldberg won't be

3503
03:19:55,479 --> 03:20:01,200
here anymore, Hogan won't be here anymore, Sting won't be

3504
03:20:01,280 --> 03:20:05,040
here anymore. Only I will be here anymore.

3505
03:20:07,120 --> 03:20:10,079
Speaker 7: Get away with words, didn't he He really did like it?

3506
03:20:10,159 --> 03:20:12,159
That's true. In two thousand and all three would be

3507
03:20:12,200 --> 03:20:13,079
gone and he would be there.

3508
03:20:13,840 --> 03:20:16,079
Speaker 3: I mean, it's true, it's just the way, you know,

3509
03:20:16,840 --> 03:20:21,200
it's just his his his language is just oh a treasure.

3510
03:20:21,399 --> 03:20:24,440
Speaker 7: Oh, his word choice has always been the fucking greatest

3511
03:20:24,479 --> 03:20:28,040
thing in the world. And this WCW run is no exception,

3512
03:20:28,120 --> 03:20:30,760
as we'll get to. But that clip from the August

3513
03:20:30,760 --> 03:20:32,799
twenty third, ninety nine Nitro, and then they cut to

3514
03:20:32,840 --> 03:20:35,520
an interview not your good guy, Sid.

3515
03:20:36,239 --> 03:20:39,239
Speaker 23: Yeah, here here is a here we go. Here's more

3516
03:20:39,360 --> 03:20:51,079
Sid a coward person who despises every gutty good guy

3517
03:20:51,120 --> 03:20:51,639
in this world.

3518
03:20:52,760 --> 03:20:52,959
Speaker 8: Sid.

3519
03:20:58,040 --> 03:21:02,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, it really has no filling before the things he does,

3520
03:21:02,760 --> 03:21:07,319
other than maybe the feeling of joy when so maybe

3521
03:21:07,360 --> 03:21:11,719
I step on someone's face or break your arm, you

3522
03:21:11,840 --> 03:21:13,000
can enjoy something like that.

3523
03:21:14,680 --> 03:21:14,879
Speaker 8: Sit.

3524
03:21:16,840 --> 03:21:18,280
Speaker 16: The thing is in a lot of pain.

3525
03:21:18,879 --> 03:21:21,760
Speaker 12: The guy you definitely wouldn't want to make meet in

3526
03:21:21,920 --> 03:21:38,559
some dark alley. The guy really enjoys.

3527
03:21:40,040 --> 03:21:43,040
Speaker 8: His opponent now globling, begging.

3528
03:21:47,760 --> 03:21:52,040
Speaker 7: Sid, He's just a word, isn't he?

3529
03:21:52,719 --> 03:21:53,280
Speaker 8: He really is?

3530
03:21:54,239 --> 03:21:56,639
Speaker 7: Is attacking him and Rick Stan attacking Goldberg with a

3531
03:21:56,719 --> 03:21:57,680
shovel in the back.

3532
03:21:57,920 --> 03:21:59,079
Speaker 3: Yep, oh I know.

3533
03:21:59,399 --> 03:22:02,799
Speaker 7: Show Charles Robinson, who was like the official designated sign

3534
03:22:02,840 --> 03:22:05,280
holder to list of the Streak behind Sid when he'd

3535
03:22:05,319 --> 03:22:05,600
come out.

3536
03:22:06,520 --> 03:22:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, how did that relationship suddenly?

3537
03:22:08,159 --> 03:22:10,239
Speaker 7: You know, he was almost bullied into doing it. It

3538
03:22:10,319 --> 03:22:12,959
wasn't like Robinson had like a speaking or managerial role.

3539
03:22:13,639 --> 03:22:15,479
He was just like forced to walk around with Sid

3540
03:22:16,440 --> 03:22:18,760
and just tosses. They just toss Goldberg on his head.

3541
03:22:18,760 --> 03:22:21,200
I couldn't remember this backstage for some reason, he like

3542
03:22:21,239 --> 03:22:22,920
flips over the dock they were supposed to throw him

3543
03:22:22,920 --> 03:22:24,399
onto and he lands right in his fucking head on

3544
03:22:24,399 --> 03:22:29,520
the cement as Goldberg. And they also show him what

3545
03:22:29,600 --> 03:22:32,440
do they show him doing? They show him carrying someone

3546
03:22:32,479 --> 03:22:34,159
over his shoulder and driving away in a hummer and

3547
03:22:34,200 --> 03:22:37,079
some alley, all kinds of crazy shit. And they show

3548
03:22:37,120 --> 03:22:39,479
him chokes laming Hogan in the Red and Yellow as

3549
03:22:39,520 --> 03:22:43,399
we get that WrestleMania eight flashback, and he says, to

3550
03:22:43,399 --> 03:22:44,680
sum it up as short as possible.

3551
03:22:44,840 --> 03:22:46,639
Speaker 3: Sid, Oh here I got the sum up for you.

3552
03:22:48,559 --> 03:22:56,559
Speaker 8: To sum it up short as possible? Sid enough said,

3553
03:22:57,440 --> 03:23:00,760
sick enough, sad?

3554
03:23:01,799 --> 03:23:03,639
Speaker 3: How about Sid enough? Sid?

3555
03:23:04,120 --> 03:23:04,399
Speaker 8: Wow?

3556
03:23:05,200 --> 03:23:07,719
Speaker 7: Oh shit? Sid apparently not enough said. As it regards

3557
03:23:07,760 --> 03:23:10,719
to the TLF tribute, yes, or to say so, they

3558
03:23:10,719 --> 03:23:13,399
took about the seventy five millennium Man and Sid says,

3559
03:23:13,559 --> 03:23:16,079
ww's my home where I started, and he takes us

3560
03:23:16,079 --> 03:23:17,440
through a bit of a history lesson boss.

3561
03:23:18,239 --> 03:23:20,159
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah he uh.

3562
03:23:21,600 --> 03:23:21,639
Speaker 8: He.

3563
03:23:21,840 --> 03:23:27,239
Speaker 3: He calls this return his big achievement, and then they

3564
03:23:27,280 --> 03:23:32,440
show the American Bash thing and whatnot, and then and

3565
03:23:32,520 --> 03:23:34,719
then I get the next thing I got is savage

3566
03:23:35,079 --> 03:23:36,120
savage cutting my promo.

3567
03:23:36,200 --> 03:23:37,600
Speaker 7: Well hit it a sec. But he talks about how

3568
03:23:37,639 --> 03:23:39,760
this place is the place for me to finish my career,

3569
03:23:39,840 --> 03:23:42,440
which of course would be totally true, though not necessarily

3570
03:23:42,479 --> 03:23:44,760
the way he would choose. And he said, being back

3571
03:23:44,799 --> 03:23:46,559
in front of ww fans is like being back home

3572
03:23:46,600 --> 03:23:48,319
where I started and got my first big break. To

3573
03:23:48,360 --> 03:23:52,479
come back here where I've been best treated, is exciting.

3574
03:23:52,600 --> 03:23:56,040
We've talked in the past about how those dollars and

3575
03:23:56,200 --> 03:23:58,399
cents on that contract definitely left said to feel like

3576
03:23:58,520 --> 03:24:01,920
this was the best place he ever worked. After keeping

3577
03:24:01,959 --> 03:24:04,440
praise on WWF for putting asses in seats, now he's

3578
03:24:05,040 --> 03:24:07,920
quite content to play the half empty buildings. Oh of course,

3579
03:24:08,239 --> 03:24:10,639
who wouldn't be the reasons we just delineated in black

3580
03:24:10,680 --> 03:24:12,879
and white. And so, as you said, let's go to

3581
03:24:14,239 --> 03:24:17,600
the June fourteenth, nineteen ninety nine episode of Monday nightro

3582
03:24:17,719 --> 03:24:20,399
as featured on the Superstar series video cassette, and Randy

3583
03:24:20,440 --> 03:24:22,959
Savage is in white fur. I regret to inform you.

3584
03:24:24,479 --> 03:24:28,440
Speaker 3: And again this is he just he doesn't sound completely

3585
03:24:30,239 --> 03:24:33,159
like Again, he doesn't sound to me like Brandy Savage.

3586
03:24:33,360 --> 03:24:35,680
I mean he does a little bit, but not all

3587
03:24:35,719 --> 03:24:36,000
the way.

3588
03:24:36,360 --> 03:24:38,680
Speaker 24: But I need to give heat to every person in

3589
03:24:38,760 --> 03:24:41,200
this arena, all over the world.

3590
03:24:41,639 --> 03:24:45,040
Speaker 2: I'll wake up call right now. Let's from now.

3591
03:24:47,079 --> 03:24:49,799
Speaker 8: From big Suxy Kevinness.

3592
03:24:52,000 --> 03:24:53,159
Speaker 4: I got one.

3593
03:24:53,120 --> 03:24:59,760
Speaker 2: Word for you, come on to me.

3594
03:25:08,799 --> 03:25:14,319
Speaker 3: That's two words, actually, man, it actually is.

3595
03:25:14,360 --> 03:25:16,360
Speaker 7: You're right about that. It's uh, I didn't think about that,

3596
03:25:16,520 --> 03:25:18,440
but unbelievably vicious.

3597
03:25:18,559 --> 03:25:25,159
Speaker 3: So he just you know again, he just he just

3598
03:25:25,399 --> 03:25:26,559
he sounds so nasal.

3599
03:25:26,680 --> 03:25:31,239
Speaker 7: You got a leather cagong backwards, gassed, ghasted.

3600
03:25:31,639 --> 03:25:34,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean he's got no, he's got no

3601
03:25:34,719 --> 03:25:37,520
room all right, gorgeous Georgia's so much gas, has no

3602
03:25:37,600 --> 03:25:38,120
room to breathe.

3603
03:25:39,440 --> 03:25:41,719
Speaker 7: And then the Nash promo, even with these sweet sandals

3604
03:25:41,760 --> 03:25:44,319
on what we just heard, basically yeah, and Sid pops

3605
03:25:44,399 --> 03:25:46,239
up on the screen and then he's in studio again

3606
03:25:46,319 --> 03:25:47,879
here on the VHS and has more to say.

3607
03:25:49,200 --> 03:25:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah here, Yeah, he talks about having heat with Nash,

3608
03:25:52,520 --> 03:25:53,639
which is hilarious.

3609
03:25:54,120 --> 03:25:57,239
Speaker 12: People say, you come to the Great American Bash said,

3610
03:25:57,879 --> 03:26:00,479
he comes straight onto Kevin Nash, looks like you guys

3611
03:26:00,559 --> 03:26:05,559
have heat. Whatever rumors, blah blah blah. Actually meet Kevin Nash,

3612
03:26:06,479 --> 03:26:10,600
have a lot of things into common. We're both big,

3613
03:26:10,959 --> 03:26:14,120
we both have the same powerful finishing move. We have

3614
03:26:14,280 --> 03:26:16,959
parallels like that in your life, with parallels with someone

3615
03:26:17,000 --> 03:26:19,360
who's got the same parallels. I think people take for

3616
03:26:19,479 --> 03:26:22,399
granted that maybe there's an animosity there.

3617
03:26:22,600 --> 03:26:22,959
Speaker 8: Whatever.

3618
03:26:23,440 --> 03:26:26,879
Speaker 12: I have no animosity towards Ing, no have any great

3619
03:26:26,959 --> 03:26:33,239
feelings towarding He's just another person, just another person.

3620
03:26:33,479 --> 03:26:36,319
Speaker 7: Okay, he's just another person. Great stuff here from Sid.

3621
03:26:37,239 --> 03:26:39,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, most people are just other people. That's kind of

3622
03:26:39,440 --> 03:26:40,120
the way the world is.

3623
03:26:40,239 --> 03:26:41,920
Speaker 7: At a Batch of the Beach in nineteen ninety nine,

3624
03:26:41,959 --> 03:26:43,799
one of the dirt worst pay per views and professional

3625
03:26:43,799 --> 03:26:47,000
wrestling history, in my opinion, In the main event, anyone

3626
03:26:47,040 --> 03:26:49,879
who pins Kevin Nash can be the champion. Okay, so

3627
03:26:50,040 --> 03:26:52,680
that means Sid or any Savage the title must change

3628
03:26:52,719 --> 03:26:53,559
hands for some reason.

3629
03:26:53,879 --> 03:26:56,280
Speaker 3: And what if I wanted to pin, can I win

3630
03:26:56,319 --> 03:26:56,639
the title?

3631
03:26:57,360 --> 03:27:02,239
Speaker 7: Unbelievable men who cared a little about world title belts.

3632
03:27:02,319 --> 03:27:05,479
Michael Buffer says on the introductions, So where do I

3633
03:27:05,600 --> 03:27:06,040
sign up?

3634
03:27:06,079 --> 03:27:06,120
Speaker 8: What?

3635
03:27:06,399 --> 03:27:07,440
Speaker 7: Where do I sign up?

3636
03:27:07,799 --> 03:27:08,520
Speaker 3: That's what he says.

3637
03:27:08,600 --> 03:27:13,680
Speaker 7: Yes, Yes, the viciously dangerous point man of Team Savage.

3638
03:27:15,639 --> 03:27:17,840
So it's stinging Kevin Nash versus Randy Savage and sid

3639
03:27:17,879 --> 03:27:19,280
in the main event of Bachelor of the Beach nineteen

3640
03:27:19,319 --> 03:27:22,639
ninety nine, Gorgeous George. If you noticed Boss the blonde

3641
03:27:22,680 --> 03:27:25,079
bombshell and Randy Savage's corner in his real life girlfriend,

3642
03:27:25,239 --> 03:27:26,440
she has a black eye, doesn't she?

3643
03:27:27,879 --> 03:27:28,799
Speaker 3: Who was that a legit one?

3644
03:27:28,879 --> 03:27:31,520
Speaker 7: They played around with a storyline where Savage was beaten

3645
03:27:32,079 --> 03:27:37,840
Gorgeous George because you know, soap opera ratings heel, and

3646
03:27:37,920 --> 03:27:40,520
they basically shied away from it immediately after some pushback

3647
03:27:40,559 --> 03:27:42,600
and outcry. So they made reference to it here in

3648
03:27:42,639 --> 03:27:44,000
the pay per view and kind of made it seem

3649
03:27:44,159 --> 03:27:47,440
like Gorgeous George was siding with Kevin Nash to rebel

3650
03:27:47,440 --> 03:27:50,000
against the abuse of Randy Savage, only too in the

3651
03:27:50,120 --> 03:27:52,680
end turn on Nash and help Savage anyway, But they

3652
03:27:52,799 --> 03:27:54,840
never really made reference again that. There was some crazy

3653
03:27:54,920 --> 03:27:58,120
scene one time in a nitro where Savage flew off

3654
03:27:58,120 --> 03:28:00,479
the handle. It was supposed to be, you know, portraying

3655
03:28:00,559 --> 03:28:05,000
this abusive towards women mental case, and he actually got

3656
03:28:05,079 --> 03:28:06,920
so carried away in the moment that he slapped Tory

3657
03:28:06,959 --> 03:28:07,760
Wilson in the face.

3658
03:28:08,399 --> 03:28:09,000
Speaker 3: Are you serious?

3659
03:28:09,319 --> 03:28:12,479
Speaker 7: Nitro? But he didn't his slap her hard enough to

3660
03:28:12,559 --> 03:28:15,600
be a real problem. And she famously laughed on a

3661
03:28:15,680 --> 03:28:18,959
live Nitro after Randy Savage last, Wow, she couldn't keep

3662
03:28:19,159 --> 03:28:21,000
a straight face at the absurdity.

3663
03:28:20,559 --> 03:28:22,520
Speaker 3: Of how he's such a fucking goof.

3664
03:28:23,200 --> 03:28:28,159
Speaker 7: He's such a bit, such good stuff back then. So Hannibal,

3665
03:28:28,319 --> 03:28:30,239
who did several interviews would sit over the years, talked

3666
03:28:30,239 --> 03:28:32,159
to him about teaming with Randy Savage in this run,

3667
03:28:32,239 --> 03:28:35,200
and he says it was pretty cool, but you know,

3668
03:28:35,440 --> 03:28:38,079
Savage maybe was living his character too much at the time.

3669
03:28:38,559 --> 03:28:40,639
He says, he'll never forget one time they'd been up

3670
03:28:40,639 --> 03:28:43,760
all night at a Nitro doing vignettes, shooting vignettes where

3671
03:28:43,799 --> 03:28:48,000
Randy was getting gorgeous George back from Kevin Nash. Sid

3672
03:28:48,040 --> 03:28:49,799
recalls it going to like four or five in the

3673
03:28:49,879 --> 03:28:53,040
morning this shoot, and so he's going from the shooting

3674
03:28:53,079 --> 03:28:54,719
on site to his rental car after it's all over,

3675
03:28:55,000 --> 03:28:58,040
about six in the morning, planning to just go to

3676
03:28:58,079 --> 03:29:00,920
the airport and get home. So Randy said, hey, baby,

3677
03:29:00,959 --> 03:29:04,239
come over here. She goes, Randy, don't start with that wow,

3678
03:29:04,600 --> 03:29:06,760
and he comes back, Oh, what is it you want?

3679
03:29:06,879 --> 03:29:11,200
Kevin Nash? You really love Kevin Nash Big six And

3680
03:29:11,280 --> 03:29:13,399
the way Sid says it, Sid's like, oh, come on,

3681
03:29:14,040 --> 03:29:15,520
not at five in the morning. I don't want to

3682
03:29:15,559 --> 03:29:17,719
hear a fake love call. Basically, you know, I don't

3683
03:29:17,719 --> 03:29:20,079
need to see Randy Savage being the television character at

3684
03:29:20,120 --> 03:29:22,360
five in the morning in the parking lot. After an

3685
03:29:22,399 --> 03:29:24,719
hours and hours long vinetche you said, say it.

3686
03:29:27,559 --> 03:29:32,760
Speaker 3: There's no line. Say it, pal, there's no line, Savage

3687
03:29:33,000 --> 03:29:35,520
is That's all I'll say.

3688
03:29:35,600 --> 03:29:38,719
Speaker 7: You got the front row seat during this run. Sid said,

3689
03:29:38,760 --> 03:29:39,440
you know, but Randy, I.

3690
03:29:39,440 --> 03:29:41,920
Speaker 3: Think you like giving Nash right?

3691
03:29:42,840 --> 03:29:44,559
Speaker 7: Is that what it is on TV?

3692
03:29:44,760 --> 03:29:48,840
Speaker 3: Randy, George, I'm telling you right now exactly what's going on,

3693
03:29:49,799 --> 03:29:52,719
because here I am trying to get a fucking boner again.

3694
03:29:54,719 --> 03:29:57,799
I'm getting rock hard. You're telling me, you know what

3695
03:29:57,920 --> 03:30:01,200
I'm gonna go for given Nash, and I don't wandering

3696
03:30:01,319 --> 03:30:05,040
exactly what I've done to say, Hey, you know what

3697
03:30:05,200 --> 03:30:09,159
I'm in do you fucking give a Nash, where have

3698
03:30:09,280 --> 03:30:10,319
I gotten the idea?

3699
03:30:10,399 --> 03:30:15,639
Speaker 7: Definitely what I've done, but oh way to phrase it?

3700
03:30:17,840 --> 03:30:19,479
And and and Sid says, you know, but Randy, I

3701
03:30:19,520 --> 03:30:21,600
think at that point was living Randy Savage too much.

3702
03:30:23,239 --> 03:30:25,280
So the very psychotic, very lethal Sid Vicious is n

3703
03:30:25,360 --> 03:30:27,520
w W. And they show them going to work on Nash,

3704
03:30:27,760 --> 03:30:29,959
reference made to their history, a ton of stuff just

3705
03:30:30,040 --> 03:30:33,280
working with Savage, Nash and Sid clashing on on on

3706
03:30:33,399 --> 03:30:36,399
this VHS. Here Nash even sidewalk slam Sid. At one

3707
03:30:36,440 --> 03:30:38,879
point they show Sid, uh, I gotta I.

3708
03:30:38,920 --> 03:30:40,920
Speaker 3: Got a quote from early in the match here. I mean,

3709
03:30:41,040 --> 03:30:44,920
these fucking matches are so disgusting in how they they

3710
03:30:45,159 --> 03:30:48,559
edit them, because like these are they're they're they're worse

3711
03:30:48,680 --> 03:30:53,239
than w W E Colisseum video chopped up matches. You know,

3712
03:30:53,399 --> 03:30:56,559
like you get five seconds before they dissolve into the

3713
03:30:56,639 --> 03:30:59,680
next segment. It just keeps going and going and going

3714
03:30:59,719 --> 03:31:03,280
on you the matches are like three seconds ridiculous. But

3715
03:31:03,399 --> 03:31:08,479
here this is uh, this is a tony counting savages ladies.

3716
03:31:09,200 --> 03:31:12,639
And Heenan thinks, well you'll hear what Heenan thinks.

3717
03:31:13,120 --> 03:31:15,280
Speaker 16: Savage has two beautiful women with him.

3718
03:31:15,719 --> 03:31:18,319
Speaker 14: But saying miss Madness, the one gorgeous know it and

3719
03:31:18,319 --> 03:31:21,760
they want to know you, Gorgeous George.

3720
03:31:22,079 --> 03:31:25,920
Speaker 3: That's three, I I said, who John Youth.

3721
03:31:25,959 --> 03:31:26,280
Speaker 12: Is a dog?

3722
03:31:26,360 --> 03:31:29,239
Speaker 3: I said, two beautiful and one of George all on

3723
03:31:29,360 --> 03:31:32,120
my side. One a dog? No, I was not.

3724
03:31:32,479 --> 03:31:34,000
Speaker 2: Didn't you stop that?

3725
03:31:35,360 --> 03:31:35,799
Speaker 7: Stop it.

3726
03:31:38,559 --> 03:31:38,840
Speaker 8: Down?

3727
03:31:39,000 --> 03:31:42,920
Speaker 7: Boy Inan and Tony with the stick?

3728
03:31:44,000 --> 03:31:46,479
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, because you need something to be entertaining on

3729
03:31:46,559 --> 03:31:47,280
these fucking shows.

3730
03:31:47,639 --> 03:31:50,239
Speaker 7: Can confirm Sid is still clapping before he throws a

3731
03:31:50,360 --> 03:31:52,639
ducked lariat here in World Championship Wrestling.

3732
03:31:52,959 --> 03:31:54,680
Speaker 3: Well, hey, it's a signal. You know he's gonna let

3733
03:31:54,760 --> 03:31:56,239
them know what's going to happen the show.

3734
03:31:56,840 --> 03:31:58,840
Speaker 7: Gorgeous George hitting Nash and the balls here at the

3735
03:31:58,840 --> 03:32:01,760
bachel of the Beach nineteen ninety. No response whatsoever, by

3736
03:32:01,799 --> 03:32:04,879
the way to that double cross from Gorgeous George as

3737
03:32:04,920 --> 03:32:08,000
Sid body slams Kevin Nash and then Randy Savage drops

3738
03:32:08,000 --> 03:32:09,639
an elbow on him from the top rope and pins

3739
03:32:09,719 --> 03:32:12,000
him one, two, three, and by virtue of the rules,

3740
03:32:12,280 --> 03:32:15,159
Kevin Nash loses the WCW title to Randy Savage in

3741
03:32:15,239 --> 03:32:19,159
a fucking tag team match that is so lame, so

3742
03:32:19,479 --> 03:32:25,319
incredibly lame. Just I can only imagine the distortions and

3743
03:32:25,399 --> 03:32:29,559
the mental gymnastics that Kevin Nash went through to land on.

3744
03:32:29,639 --> 03:32:31,200
I can't lose the belt one on one. I have

3745
03:32:31,280 --> 03:32:32,639
to lose it in a tag team match.

3746
03:32:33,319 --> 03:32:37,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised he got pinned. Yeah, I know.

3747
03:32:37,319 --> 03:32:38,799
Speaker 7: I mean, if you're gonna do it, do it, Like,

3748
03:32:38,840 --> 03:32:41,319
why does it have to be this funky tag team

3749
03:32:41,559 --> 03:32:43,000
environment just so it doesn't really count?

3750
03:32:43,040 --> 03:32:45,719
Speaker 3: That's why, like I would have let it be seriously,

3751
03:32:45,760 --> 03:32:47,719
like you should have had Sting take the fall. Yeah,

3752
03:32:49,360 --> 03:32:51,040
you know, if you're not going to do like, why

3753
03:32:51,079 --> 03:32:52,440
did you do the fall to begin with? Why did

3754
03:32:52,520 --> 03:32:55,639
you take the pin? Yeah? It just makes no sense,

3755
03:32:55,719 --> 03:32:58,479
no sense, you know, I think good.

3756
03:32:58,479 --> 03:33:01,159
Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I don't think the stipulations were and

3757
03:33:01,200 --> 03:33:03,440
I'm not suggesting you were saying this, but I'm thinking

3758
03:33:03,440 --> 03:33:05,840
about it. I don't think if either man pinn Sting

3759
03:33:05,879 --> 03:33:07,840
they would win the belt. They had to pin Naw.

3760
03:33:08,680 --> 03:33:12,159
Speaker 3: Oh I see, yeah, well I was saying that, but

3761
03:33:12,639 --> 03:33:15,120
I think that that should have been ruled then for sure.

3762
03:33:15,479 --> 03:33:17,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, because the first they did they could have easily

3763
03:33:17,280 --> 03:33:19,600
done with a run in exactly.

3764
03:33:19,280 --> 03:33:22,559
Speaker 3: The same right, exactly I did want to stay here.

3765
03:33:22,639 --> 03:33:26,920
There's a funny bit. So in these clips, Sid's working

3766
03:33:27,000 --> 03:33:29,079
on staying and then Nash comes into help out and

3767
03:33:29,200 --> 03:33:31,799
Shavanni makes a very funny comment about Nash that kind

3768
03:33:31,840 --> 03:33:35,479
of goes in. It plays very well with how we

3769
03:33:35,559 --> 03:33:36,360
think of Kevin Nash.

3770
03:33:37,360 --> 03:33:41,239
Speaker 19: Kevin Ash's first any offense as he raked the back

3771
03:33:41,239 --> 03:33:42,120
of the head at that time.

3772
03:33:43,559 --> 03:33:45,639
Speaker 3: He hadn't been in mat the entire fucking time. When

3773
03:33:45,680 --> 03:33:49,000
he comes in and Schevanni fucking comments on it, I

3774
03:33:49,040 --> 03:33:52,079
was like, it was great. Back to the studio, Oh,

3775
03:33:52,520 --> 03:33:55,680
here we go get him talking about being a part

3776
03:33:55,680 --> 03:33:56,479
of Team Madness.

3777
03:33:57,719 --> 03:34:00,399
Speaker 12: Being part of Team Madness was an experience. It's a

3778
03:34:00,879 --> 03:34:04,440
thing about it. The enjoyment for me was the Randy Savage,

3779
03:34:04,760 --> 03:34:08,200
someone who, in a weird way, is a lot like

3780
03:34:08,319 --> 03:34:14,639
said Vicious, real intense, a professional at all aspects from

3781
03:34:14,680 --> 03:34:20,319
his attire to his interviews in the ring, everything, his entourage,

3782
03:34:20,319 --> 03:34:25,280
stuff like that. But that's where it stopped. I'm not

3783
03:34:25,559 --> 03:34:27,920
part of an entourage. There it is, and I don't

3784
03:34:28,000 --> 03:34:32,000
want an entourage, and I don't need an entourage.

3785
03:34:33,639 --> 03:34:39,520
Speaker 7: What an ter odd No, Jeremy Pivit and shit, no

3786
03:34:39,760 --> 03:34:43,079
that I understand an nter Odge untero Odge. So yeah,

3787
03:34:43,079 --> 03:34:46,360
it's not gonna last long. I love this half shoot,

3788
03:34:46,440 --> 03:34:47,440
half work sid here.

3789
03:34:48,520 --> 03:34:49,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very it's very odd.

3790
03:34:50,200 --> 03:34:53,040
Speaker 7: The July seventeenth, ninety nine Nitro, it's you, mister Hogan.

3791
03:34:53,120 --> 03:34:56,079
You have something that belongs to me. So after breaking

3792
03:34:56,120 --> 03:34:59,159
off from team Savage said, Vicious is now engaging in

3793
03:34:59,200 --> 03:35:00,719
a one on one feud, picking up with the left

3794
03:35:00,760 --> 03:35:04,440
off in nineteen ninety two with the Hulkster starts saying

3795
03:35:04,479 --> 03:35:06,600
master Ruler of the world, Hollywood baby, and.

3796
03:35:06,760 --> 03:35:10,000
Speaker 3: Another thing too, Like you also realize that in the

3797
03:35:10,200 --> 03:35:12,559
midst of this of like the events that are that

3798
03:35:12,639 --> 03:35:17,040
are highlighted in this in this video, that Hogan also

3799
03:35:17,200 --> 03:35:18,879
turns back to the red and yellow. Yeah.

3800
03:35:19,719 --> 03:35:21,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, they capture a lot of the absurdity of nineteen

3801
03:35:21,760 --> 03:35:24,719
ninety nine, if just by mistake or happenstance on this tape.

3802
03:35:25,239 --> 03:35:27,760
Speaker 3: It's just crazy how much happens in so little.

3803
03:35:27,879 --> 03:35:31,159
Speaker 7: They keep trying, they keep resetting that because nothing's working,

3804
03:35:31,280 --> 03:35:34,000
so they're just reshuffling the deck every two to three weeks.

3805
03:35:34,040 --> 03:35:36,959
On Nitro, it feels like I remember, like Hogan came back,

3806
03:35:37,040 --> 03:35:39,399
he beat Savage for the championship in April of ninety

3807
03:35:39,479 --> 03:35:41,959
nine did a pretty good rating for the world title.

3808
03:35:42,000 --> 03:35:44,319
It's like, Okay, now Hogan's back on top. Great and

3809
03:35:44,399 --> 03:35:47,000
then he just just and then it just doesn't go anywhere,

3810
03:35:47,239 --> 03:35:49,639
It doesn't continue to draw, and then he's losing the belt.

3811
03:35:49,719 --> 03:35:51,719
He cycles out, and then he cycles back in and

3812
03:35:51,760 --> 03:35:54,120
wrestles Sid and then he comes back and wrestles Sid

3813
03:35:54,239 --> 03:35:57,639
is red and yellow, And it's just like this constant

3814
03:35:57,840 --> 03:36:01,520
series of Hogan and Nash really and Hogan and Bischoff

3815
03:36:02,360 --> 03:36:04,360
trying to figure out a new way to spark is

3816
03:36:04,399 --> 03:36:06,159
basically a preview of what they did in TNA.

3817
03:36:07,239 --> 03:36:07,399
Speaker 8: You know.

3818
03:36:07,440 --> 03:36:10,319
Speaker 7: It's the Hogan Bischoff's team trying to get the band

3819
03:36:10,360 --> 03:36:12,479
back together or trying to, you know, see.

3820
03:36:12,319 --> 03:36:13,520
Speaker 3: If they can try to do as much as they

3821
03:36:13,559 --> 03:36:16,000
can to make Hogan be the guy to bring WW

3822
03:36:16,159 --> 03:36:16,600
back to glory.

3823
03:36:16,639 --> 03:36:18,639
Speaker 7: Exactly correct, precisely, so you got all.

3824
03:36:18,879 --> 03:36:20,280
Speaker 3: That's the funny part. It's like, it's not about bring

3825
03:36:20,399 --> 03:36:22,399
WW back to glory. He's about having Hulk Hogan bring

3826
03:36:22,559 --> 03:36:23,520
WCW back to glory.

3827
03:36:24,120 --> 03:36:26,680
Speaker 7: Always said there's no such thing as WCW being successful

3828
03:36:26,719 --> 03:36:30,079
unless Hulk Hogan is successful. Right, Unless Hulk Hogan as

3829
03:36:30,120 --> 03:36:32,799
the main eventor is what's working in WCW. Nothing is

3830
03:36:32,840 --> 03:36:36,840
working in WSW because you know, nothing counts until the Hulkster,

3831
03:36:36,959 --> 03:36:39,239
with his contract and leverage and all the rest and

3832
03:36:39,399 --> 03:36:43,559
his iron grip on Bischoff is in play. When Holgan's

3833
03:36:43,559 --> 03:36:46,479
in play, then everyone's trying because this is our only shot.

3834
03:36:46,879 --> 03:36:49,040
If somebody else is on top, it's very temporary until

3835
03:36:49,040 --> 03:36:51,680
the Holster comes back. So here he is with his

3836
03:36:51,760 --> 03:36:55,680
white gloves versus sit on Nitro. Hogan close lines him

3837
03:36:55,680 --> 03:36:58,479
several times. Sid won't go down. He scoops in Hogan's

3838
03:36:58,559 --> 03:37:01,799
need gives on a two count. They referenced how doctor

3839
03:37:01,840 --> 03:37:04,159
James Andrews had just performed the surgery on the Hulkster.

3840
03:37:04,799 --> 03:37:07,040
Speaker 3: They did, they did talk about that fucking Scott Hudson

3841
03:37:07,120 --> 03:37:07,840
talking about that shit.

3842
03:37:08,280 --> 03:37:11,680
Speaker 7: And here's a little bit of a context from from

3843
03:37:11,760 --> 03:37:14,440
Dave Meltzer. At the time, with the main booking power

3844
03:37:14,479 --> 03:37:16,559
and television formatting in the hands of Hult, Cogan and

3845
03:37:16,719 --> 03:37:20,319
Eric Bischoff, Kevin Nationally having a minor role. Nitro on

3846
03:37:20,399 --> 03:37:23,239
July nineteenth presented an Angle Aiden show with two Marque

3847
03:37:23,319 --> 03:37:25,760
main events and introducing a slew of new characters. New

3848
03:37:25,760 --> 03:37:28,399
announcer and celebrity cameo appearances in front of an incredibly

3849
03:37:28,440 --> 03:37:31,159
rabid crowd in Rockford, Illinois. While it was generally considered

3850
03:37:31,159 --> 03:37:33,079
the best Nitro in a long time, the ratings told

3851
03:37:33,760 --> 03:37:37,639
a different story a rather ordinary episode of WWF Sports Entertainment.

3852
03:37:37,680 --> 03:37:40,639
As the show is now categorized Joy six point two

3853
03:37:40,680 --> 03:37:42,879
eight rating, six point oh five first hour, six point

3854
03:37:42,920 --> 03:37:45,520
five to five second hour, and a whopping ten share.

3855
03:37:46,399 --> 03:37:48,799
Nitro compared to the six point two to eight. Boss

3856
03:37:49,079 --> 03:37:52,040
did a three point three to three Wow two point

3857
03:37:52,040 --> 03:37:54,239
five to seven first hour, three point one one, second hour,

3858
03:37:54,319 --> 03:37:55,959
three point three one third hour, and a five to

3859
03:37:56,079 --> 03:37:58,639
five share. That's that's excellent for Nitro at the time.

3860
03:37:59,159 --> 03:38:01,000
Over the head ted two hours and eight minutes, Ro's

3861
03:38:01,040 --> 03:38:03,200
six point two eight compared to Nitro's three point twenty

3862
03:38:03,200 --> 03:38:05,639
one or just shy of doubling the rating head to head,

3863
03:38:06,440 --> 03:38:08,719
Rod doubled Nitro in four of the eight quarters head

3864
03:38:08,760 --> 03:38:11,319
to head, including devastating Nitro in the Battle of main

3865
03:38:11,399 --> 03:38:14,200
Events overrun. The disappointment for Nitro had to be the

3866
03:38:14,239 --> 03:38:16,799
performance of the two marquee matches, the Hogan versus Vicious

3867
03:38:16,840 --> 03:38:19,920
title match. Remember Sid's a draw. Remember this course, the

3868
03:38:20,000 --> 03:38:21,799
Hogan Versu Visius title match to a two point nine

3869
03:38:21,840 --> 03:38:23,639
one final quarter, growing to a three point five to

3870
03:38:23,680 --> 03:38:26,120
one overrun with other run ins including Goldberg, But even

3871
03:38:26,159 --> 03:38:29,040
that is misleading high, misleadingly high, since it went longer

3872
03:38:29,120 --> 03:38:32,200
than raw ro's final quarter. X pac and Caine versus

3873
03:38:32,200 --> 03:38:34,799
Big Show and Hardcore Holly and the beginning of Undertaker

3874
03:38:34,879 --> 03:38:39,120
versus Triple h In comparison, Okay, Hogan versus Sid Boss

3875
03:38:39,559 --> 03:38:41,600
does a two point nine to one. What do you

3876
03:38:41,680 --> 03:38:44,600
think X POC and Caine versus Big Show and Holly

3877
03:38:44,719 --> 03:38:47,879
does none better be like four six point nine to six?

3878
03:38:48,600 --> 03:38:51,360
Are you fucking kidding me? With the Undertaker Triple Ah

3879
03:38:51,440 --> 03:38:54,159
match two just starting and the overrun with the finish

3880
03:38:54,239 --> 03:38:56,000
of that match in Austin running in built throughout the

3881
03:38:56,000 --> 03:38:59,639
show did a seven point seven zero rating. Geez, that's

3882
03:38:59,639 --> 03:39:03,079
a totally opposed making it the most watched wrestling match

3883
03:39:03,120 --> 03:39:06,360
with opposition wrestling programming in the history of cable television.

3884
03:39:06,600 --> 03:39:11,239
Yeah that huge, um Shane, uh Shane. The Greenwich Kids

3885
03:39:11,360 --> 03:39:14,440
what do they call mestree posse? Yeah, versus Briscoe and

3886
03:39:14,479 --> 03:39:16,799
Patterson in that May nineteen ninety nine Raw that did

3887
03:39:16,840 --> 03:39:20,399
that all time high quarter like, rivaled only by the

3888
03:39:20,479 --> 03:39:22,120
rock mankind. This is Your Life. That was on an

3889
03:39:22,120 --> 03:39:24,399
episode of Raw where Nitro was preempted, so they had

3890
03:39:24,440 --> 03:39:25,879
the night all of themselves, and that had a lot

3891
03:39:25,920 --> 03:39:26,559
to do with why that was.

3892
03:39:28,319 --> 03:39:29,879
Speaker 3: This one was a post what about what about this?

3893
03:39:30,079 --> 03:39:33,000
What about the Undertaker Austin match? I thought that one

3894
03:39:33,040 --> 03:39:35,719
did a fucking did a huge right dorating huge reading. Yep,

3895
03:39:35,760 --> 03:39:37,959
it was way up there, but it wasn't. It wasn't

3896
03:39:37,959 --> 03:39:40,840
as high as that. Briscol and Patterson won for some reason.

3897
03:39:42,040 --> 03:39:44,159
Nitro's other marque match, the Brick flairvor Sting match for

3898
03:39:44,200 --> 03:39:47,200
control of the company, was a huge disappointment, drawing just

3899
03:39:47,239 --> 03:39:48,840
a three point three to five rating for the first

3900
03:39:48,879 --> 03:39:51,479
opposed quarter as compared to the five point three to

3901
03:39:51,559 --> 03:39:54,280
three for the same Raw open as every week. Unlike

3902
03:39:54,280 --> 03:39:57,159
the previous week Flare Malank versus Malenka, where Flair maintained

3903
03:39:57,159 --> 03:39:59,520
the audience from the unpposed quarter, the Flair Sting match

3904
03:39:59,559 --> 03:40:02,280
had the usual turn off factor when rob began falling

3905
03:40:02,440 --> 03:40:05,520
from a four point zero seven unpposed rating ros numbers.

3906
03:40:05,680 --> 03:40:08,239
Remember that Nitro had an extra hour than Raw eight

3907
03:40:08,280 --> 03:40:10,399
to nine right and I think that was a lot

3908
03:40:10,440 --> 03:40:12,760
of it too, was that, like people watched Nitro for

3909
03:40:12,799 --> 03:40:15,040
the first hour when Raw wasn't on and almost always

3910
03:40:15,079 --> 03:40:17,079
tied out. They just it's kind of funny. I mean,

3911
03:40:17,120 --> 03:40:19,399
I guess you know you're trying to win and trying

3912
03:40:19,440 --> 03:40:21,239
to win, but you should put your best stuff in

3913
03:40:21,280 --> 03:40:23,399
that first hour, honestly, if you're tanking so hard.

3914
03:40:23,360 --> 03:40:25,159
Speaker 7: Really or at least do stuff in that first hour

3915
03:40:25,239 --> 03:40:26,840
that really hooks people for the rest of the show.

3916
03:40:27,559 --> 03:40:27,719
Speaker 8: Right.

3917
03:40:28,319 --> 03:40:30,600
Speaker 7: Ros numbers throughout the evening were consistent until the big

3918
03:40:30,639 --> 03:40:32,920
pick up in the last twenty three minutes. Nitro's numbers

3919
03:40:33,000 --> 03:40:34,840
ranged from a low of two point seven three for

3920
03:40:34,920 --> 03:40:37,639
Rick Steiner versus Horse Hogan I repeat rick Steiner versus

3921
03:40:37,639 --> 03:40:41,399
hors Hogan Andandy Grover's Psychosis to a high of three

3922
03:40:41,399 --> 03:40:43,920
point sixty nine for the post match after Savage versus

3923
03:40:43,959 --> 03:40:46,680
Billy Kidman with a Dennis Rodman run and as Dennis

3924
03:40:46,719 --> 03:40:49,319
Rodman was to wrestle Randy Savage at Roade Wild nineteen

3925
03:40:49,360 --> 03:40:53,239
ninety nine in his final WCW appearance, and the melee

3926
03:40:53,319 --> 03:40:56,479
and the Conan versus Vanpiro match, So sounds like a

3927
03:40:56,520 --> 03:40:58,280
lot that would intrigue you boss to go ahead and

3928
03:40:59,000 --> 03:41:01,079
watch this nitro on Peacock after we're done.

3929
03:41:01,840 --> 03:41:04,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, can't wait, so, uh can't wait to you know,

3930
03:41:05,319 --> 03:41:07,600
I don't know, so I try to erase it off Peacock.

3931
03:41:07,719 --> 03:41:09,559
Speaker 7: I mean Sid hits a running boot to Hogan's face

3932
03:41:09,600 --> 03:41:10,520
in this match on nitro.

3933
03:41:11,280 --> 03:41:12,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it doesn't hit the late drop.

3934
03:41:12,440 --> 03:41:13,879
Speaker 7: But he doesn't hit the leg drop because he goes

3935
03:41:13,920 --> 03:41:15,200
for it and Hogan moves out of the way.

3936
03:41:15,760 --> 03:41:16,079
Speaker 3: That's right.

3937
03:41:16,239 --> 03:41:18,879
Speaker 7: Hogan then boot Sid. Sid staggers around but doesn't fall.

3938
03:41:19,159 --> 03:41:21,719
Hogan slams Sid and then Kevin nashit's the ring and

3939
03:41:21,760 --> 03:41:25,159
attacks Hogan Sting makes the same Rick Steiner it gets involved,

3940
03:41:25,840 --> 03:41:28,280
and that's a nineteen ninety nine nitro for you right there.

3941
03:41:29,399 --> 03:41:31,559
I mean, what the fuck sit around thinking Hogan Sid

3942
03:41:31,680 --> 03:41:34,319
is going to be something cool and it's a running

3943
03:41:35,079 --> 03:41:37,559
back to the studio Sid. Why the fuck is Rick

3944
03:41:37,600 --> 03:41:38,399
Steiner involved?

3945
03:41:39,239 --> 03:41:42,120
Speaker 12: People have asked me about why I chose Rick Steiner

3946
03:41:42,159 --> 03:41:44,440
to stand beside me with some of the battle times

3947
03:41:44,479 --> 03:41:45,719
from the rough times as this.

3948
03:41:46,319 --> 03:41:49,360
Speaker 7: Excuse me, Yeah, I don't know what the fuck he's saying.

3949
03:41:50,239 --> 03:41:53,520
Speaker 12: Simple, he's a guy that you can trust. He's a

3950
03:41:53,600 --> 03:41:55,959
guy that You can not have to look over your shoulder.

3951
03:41:56,040 --> 03:41:59,719
Why you're into a situation, a physical situation, Hey us.

3952
03:41:59,680 --> 03:42:02,200
Speaker 8: The guy helping me. Do I have to take a

3953
03:42:02,319 --> 03:42:05,680
second to turn around Sadi's air? No, you don't have

3954
03:42:05,760 --> 03:42:06,120
to do that.

3955
03:42:07,840 --> 03:42:12,479
Speaker 3: You know he's there. Okay.

3956
03:42:12,799 --> 03:42:15,760
Speaker 7: The nineteen ninety nine push of Rick Steiner, it's just

3957
03:42:16,840 --> 03:42:18,840
irredeemably poor decision.

3958
03:42:19,879 --> 03:42:21,079
Speaker 3: That's just unacceptable.

3959
03:42:21,319 --> 03:42:24,639
Speaker 7: I mean, no one could possibly want to see him

3960
03:42:24,680 --> 03:42:28,559
on Nitro as a singles you know, pushed with the

3961
03:42:28,600 --> 03:42:31,319
top dogs. Like all he does is bring down a

3962
03:42:31,399 --> 03:42:33,600
star power in every segment they put him in. I

3963
03:42:33,760 --> 03:42:36,399
know Nash loves the Steiners and everything, and Bischoff certainly

3964
03:42:36,440 --> 03:42:40,200
had a soft spot for them, but man Man was

3965
03:42:40,239 --> 03:42:41,040
a stupid.

3966
03:42:41,159 --> 03:42:42,200
Speaker 3: Fucking Michigan boys.

3967
03:42:42,319 --> 03:42:43,120
Speaker 7: What pretty much?

3968
03:42:43,319 --> 03:42:44,520
Speaker 3: Yep, pretty much.

3969
03:42:44,559 --> 03:42:47,360
Speaker 7: They show Goldberg getting attacked backstage by Sid and Rick

3970
03:42:47,399 --> 03:42:50,280
Steiner's referenced earlier, with a shovel and throwing Goldberg on

3971
03:42:50,360 --> 03:42:53,120
his head. This is from the August second, nineteen ninety

3972
03:42:53,159 --> 03:42:55,680
nine Nitro. Then they lock him behind a door and

3973
03:42:55,760 --> 03:42:58,200
Sid's a stupid idiot and hit Sting with a shovel,

3974
03:42:58,719 --> 03:43:00,200
and then to Eric and Hogan on the car, all

3975
03:43:01,239 --> 03:43:03,440
so well, Hogan was champed. Ye, So Eric and Hogan

3976
03:43:03,479 --> 03:43:07,719
are on the commentary. Hogan says he loves how Sid

3977
03:43:07,799 --> 03:43:12,159
plans things. Maybe maybe they had a dinner. I don't know, brother,

3978
03:43:12,479 --> 03:43:14,639
but you're planning, Like, what is this? What do you

3979
03:43:14,719 --> 03:43:18,360
mean you guys plan things in this business? This is

3980
03:43:18,399 --> 03:43:21,559
basically Hogan and Bischoff, you know, on the commentary on TNA.

3981
03:43:21,680 --> 03:43:25,159
You know, just yeah, exactly, Sid and Rick. Here Goldberg

3982
03:43:25,520 --> 03:43:27,840
comes out to the old mega death crush him theme

3983
03:43:28,079 --> 03:43:29,799
that he started coming out to after he was in

3984
03:43:29,920 --> 03:43:34,360
Universal Soldier Too. I did not know that sting, Hogan

3985
03:43:34,399 --> 03:43:36,559
says wide open on commentary. So he was saying that

3986
03:43:36,680 --> 03:43:39,000
back in nineteen ninety nine, it is confirmed.

3987
03:43:41,639 --> 03:43:47,879
Speaker 3: He uh uh. Boff asked Hogan who out of the form,

3988
03:43:47,959 --> 03:43:51,879
Oh yeah, yeah. Bischoff asked Hogan who the most difficult

3989
03:43:52,280 --> 03:44:00,280
of the foremen in the ring were to Hogan, got

3990
03:44:00,319 --> 03:44:05,319
your opportunity. Golbo's gonna have his ass for now, but

3991
03:44:05,520 --> 03:44:07,639
he's basically got both men's gonna watch now.

3992
03:44:07,680 --> 03:44:09,920
Speaker 8: Stings in a lot of trouble. That's kind of a

3993
03:44:09,959 --> 03:44:11,799
low shot to brother. Just see said that was a

3994
03:44:11,879 --> 03:44:12,399
low blow out.

3995
03:44:12,799 --> 03:44:14,239
Speaker 3: Sorry, Holley, would you've been in the ring with all

3996
03:44:14,280 --> 03:44:17,520
of these men of the four, if you could call it,

3997
03:44:17,719 --> 03:44:19,200
which one of them gave you.

3998
03:44:19,200 --> 03:44:22,360
Speaker 12: The most difficult the most dangerous brother, the most dangerous

3999
03:44:22,440 --> 03:44:22,920
is Sid.

4000
03:44:22,760 --> 03:44:26,600
Speaker 3: Without a doubt. Wow, I'm sure, I'm sure. In many

4001
03:44:26,639 --> 03:44:27,200
ways it's true.

4002
03:44:27,239 --> 03:44:29,120
Speaker 7: He's about to face Sting. It roade wild back. Then

4003
03:44:29,159 --> 03:44:31,200
as a matter of fact, Sting gets free and hits

4004
03:44:31,200 --> 03:44:34,920
a bulldog Hulk Cokin's Sting doesn't need Goldberg said, Goozles

4005
03:44:34,959 --> 03:44:37,680
lifts and dumps Sting one two. Goldberg makes the same

4006
03:44:38,159 --> 03:44:40,879
Hulk Cogin says, you better wake up soon, or you'll

4007
03:44:40,959 --> 03:44:42,639
have to that's.

4008
03:44:42,559 --> 03:44:45,319
Speaker 3: To the referee here, I got that for you. They

4009
03:44:45,399 --> 03:44:48,799
were thinking as a team, they were, Goldberg busy, feel

4010
03:44:48,879 --> 03:44:49,239
something else.

4011
03:44:49,280 --> 03:44:50,840
Speaker 2: But if he's gaining his wound.

4012
03:44:50,559 --> 03:44:52,799
Speaker 8: If he's ready, I feel sorry for everybody gets his

4013
03:44:52,879 --> 03:44:53,200
hands on.

4014
03:44:54,680 --> 03:44:55,959
Speaker 16: As they react to sing.

4015
03:44:58,079 --> 03:44:59,680
Speaker 2: The Sting doesn't need Goldberg.

4016
03:45:00,040 --> 03:45:01,079
Speaker 3: Oh, he's only fire again.

4017
03:45:03,280 --> 03:45:05,000
Speaker 16: That's the one thing about saying is good.

4018
03:45:05,079 --> 03:45:08,559
Speaker 13: He's down, when you think he's out, he digs down

4019
03:45:08,639 --> 03:45:09,959
deep and he comes back on.

4020
03:45:10,000 --> 03:45:11,280
Speaker 4: The fire man.

4021
03:45:11,360 --> 03:45:14,360
Speaker 16: If he have his hands full, yeah, I say vicious.

4022
03:45:14,440 --> 03:45:15,840
Speaker 4: He's got his hands up.

4023
03:45:16,000 --> 03:45:19,319
Speaker 16: The same cover and Goldberg again to make the sake

4024
03:45:19,639 --> 03:45:20,959
the referee better wakes up sooner.

4025
03:45:20,959 --> 03:45:22,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to make him move it and wake

4026
03:45:22,399 --> 03:45:22,680
him up.

4027
03:45:23,200 --> 03:45:27,280
Speaker 7: Brother. It just sounds so hollow.

4028
03:45:27,360 --> 03:45:28,600
Speaker 3: The two of them are just awful.

4029
03:45:28,799 --> 03:45:31,280
Speaker 7: It's so hollow. They'll trying to like come up with

4030
03:45:31,440 --> 03:45:33,639
enthusiasm for the same cast of characters.

4031
03:45:33,719 --> 03:45:35,760
Speaker 3: You know, it's like Hogan's Hogan is not a good

4032
03:45:35,879 --> 03:45:38,000
not good on commentary. He should never do it. I agree.

4033
03:45:38,799 --> 03:45:41,040
Speaker 7: They thumbs down Goldberg chant you heard said missus leg

4034
03:45:41,079 --> 03:45:43,799
drop scorpion deathlock applied by staying. Goldberg gets in battling

4035
03:45:43,879 --> 03:45:44,360
Rick Steiner.

4036
03:45:44,680 --> 03:45:47,200
Speaker 3: Oh, there's no way you're hitting a leg drop with

4037
03:45:47,360 --> 03:45:49,680
Hogan on commentary, right by a ring.

4038
03:45:49,920 --> 03:45:51,840
Speaker 7: Then he gets out, grabs a chair and starts tapping

4039
03:45:51,920 --> 03:45:54,159
people on the head and the fakest looking chair shots.

4040
03:45:55,000 --> 03:45:55,600
Speaker 3: It's pretty bad.

4041
03:45:55,680 --> 03:45:58,559
Speaker 7: It's pretty bad, DEQ. They hit the bell And that's

4042
03:45:58,600 --> 03:46:01,520
another great addition to Nitro. Even the fucking videotapes, which

4043
03:46:01,520 --> 03:46:03,840
are supposed to be best ofs, they can't put together

4044
03:46:03,840 --> 03:46:06,719
a home video release without it being ninety per DQ

4045
03:46:06,879 --> 03:46:09,040
finishes that leave people wondering if they'll ever come back

4046
03:46:09,079 --> 03:46:09,879
to a Nitro again.

4047
03:46:10,760 --> 03:46:13,520
Speaker 3: Yep, we go back to the studio. There we go.

4048
03:46:14,280 --> 03:46:21,440
Speaker 12: My opinion about the mystery Man, or so called franchise

4049
03:46:21,680 --> 03:46:22,399
of what.

4050
03:46:23,959 --> 03:46:25,879
Speaker 3: I don't know. What's he talking about? Mystery Man?

4051
03:46:26,840 --> 03:46:31,680
Speaker 7: I think he's talking about Goldberg. We're talking about sing

4052
03:46:31,799 --> 03:46:35,920
Sorry you start about the sting. Why because he wrestles

4053
03:46:35,959 --> 03:46:37,840
in it roadwild? No, I know, But why is he

4054
03:46:37,879 --> 03:46:41,319
the mystery Man? The mystery Man's road warrior animal. Well, yeah,

4055
03:46:41,319 --> 03:46:42,719
that's why he's a mystery man. At first, I was like,

4056
03:46:42,719 --> 03:46:45,120
I guess Goldberg had some mystery to him. But yeah,

4057
03:46:45,159 --> 03:46:47,920
he's I guess back from ninety seven ninety six. Rather

4058
03:46:48,639 --> 03:46:50,000
you know how he hung over in the rafters and

4059
03:46:50,000 --> 03:46:53,799
didn't say anything for a year, okay or maybe WCW.

4060
03:46:55,399 --> 03:46:58,440
Speaker 8: We know this a true thing about him. We know

4061
03:46:58,520 --> 03:47:02,159
he's a family man. You have his children.

4062
03:47:03,559 --> 03:47:09,399
Speaker 12: He those family values. He loves the shaking hands of

4063
03:47:09,479 --> 03:47:13,479
the wrestling fans. I despise those qualities.

4064
03:47:15,680 --> 03:47:20,959
Speaker 7: That's good. Self proclaimed millennium man, we're transitioning into that.

4065
03:47:21,079 --> 03:47:22,799
Tony says he has a claim on that because as

4066
03:47:22,840 --> 03:47:24,520
we head into the year two thousand, said has had

4067
03:47:24,520 --> 03:47:27,159
the best record, undefeated over the last month. He will

4068
03:47:27,520 --> 03:47:29,520
they say, he will erase the winning streak of Goldberg

4069
03:47:30,000 --> 03:47:31,760
like today, says I'll have to do some research on that.

4070
03:47:32,440 --> 03:47:35,040
They show bikes revving at road wild as Sid is

4071
03:47:35,079 --> 03:47:37,520
hammocked in the corner and Sting.

4072
03:47:37,399 --> 03:47:42,440
Speaker 3: By the way his music for w W one very

4073
03:47:42,520 --> 03:47:46,280
much a cover of his ninety two w w WWE.

4074
03:47:45,760 --> 03:47:48,120
Speaker 7: Theme absolutely and the theme that they in fact edited

4075
03:47:48,159 --> 03:47:48,760
out of Peacock.

4076
03:47:49,120 --> 03:47:52,280
Speaker 3: Don't ask me why, I know, like, why don't just

4077
03:47:52,680 --> 03:47:55,159
put in his ninety two theme that you do all.

4078
03:47:55,120 --> 03:47:57,200
Speaker 7: Right, which apparently even though it sounds exactly the same

4079
03:47:57,200 --> 03:48:00,239
as not a copyright infringement. I guess they really suck

4080
03:48:00,280 --> 03:48:02,799
the life out of Sid in this year such such as.

4081
03:48:02,680 --> 03:48:06,000
Speaker 3: There is I heard it's like some weird techno ship.

4082
03:48:06,120 --> 03:48:10,440
Speaker 7: Awful, truly the worst, really bad. So, yeah, he gets

4083
03:48:10,440 --> 03:48:12,280
hammocked in the corner and then Sting splashes him up

4084
03:48:12,280 --> 03:48:13,959
there and clothes lines him up and over to the floor.

4085
03:48:14,239 --> 03:48:16,000
This is again and storage of South Dakota with all

4086
03:48:16,000 --> 03:48:17,120
the motorcycles everywhere.

4087
03:48:17,520 --> 03:48:20,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a stand for hamburgers and steak sandwiches.

4088
03:48:20,159 --> 03:48:23,719
Speaker 7: Say that againing missus a splash, there's a backbreaker to

4089
03:48:23,799 --> 03:48:25,680
the floor. He drops Sting on the rail. They do

4090
03:48:25,760 --> 03:48:29,040
a split screen back to the studio where CID.

4091
03:48:29,040 --> 03:48:31,639
Speaker 3: You can't oh yeah, but you can't even They're also

4092
03:48:31,680 --> 03:48:34,719
they're weird things like you know, these matches are very

4093
03:48:35,319 --> 03:48:41,399
completely incomprehensible, yes, all right, because they dissolved so often.

4094
03:48:42,440 --> 03:48:46,000
And then there's a moment there where Sting Sid drops

4095
03:48:46,000 --> 03:48:48,719
Sting on the guardrail right in front of a knuckleball Schwartz.

4096
03:48:49,840 --> 03:48:51,239
But they're like, what the fuck? I don't know he

4097
03:48:51,360 --> 03:48:55,000
was there, so they here's the here's the insert moment.

4098
03:48:55,799 --> 03:49:01,680
Speaker 12: Sting road wild was glood out so far might come

4099
03:49:01,799 --> 03:49:05,000
back in w c W because one will probably stand

4100
03:49:05,120 --> 03:49:06,319
out for a long time.

4101
03:49:09,440 --> 03:49:11,120
Speaker 8: A lot of people don't realize.

4102
03:49:10,799 --> 03:49:14,479
Speaker 12: What I achieved in that one win and one fittor

4103
03:49:14,559 --> 03:49:18,600
you overstend I said earlier. He truly is the franchise

4104
03:49:18,680 --> 03:49:22,479
of w c W. He stood all the tests here,

4105
03:49:23,000 --> 03:49:26,920
he went through good and bad times, things like that.

4106
03:49:27,840 --> 03:49:31,440
And what really bothers me is that no one really

4107
03:49:31,520 --> 03:49:37,479
did understand or know what I accomplished in that one

4108
03:49:37,639 --> 03:49:40,319
night because it happened so swift.

4109
03:49:40,719 --> 03:49:42,479
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't either. It beats things.

4110
03:49:42,639 --> 03:49:43,719
Speaker 7: Are you talking about.

4111
03:49:45,239 --> 03:49:53,040
Speaker 8: So suddenly that my power overshadowed the event.

4112
03:49:54,760 --> 03:49:59,479
Speaker 12: And it's really sad because the guy beat was when

4113
03:49:59,520 --> 03:50:02,360
I one of the steal one of the greatest competitors

4114
03:50:02,399 --> 03:50:03,200
are our sport.

4115
03:50:04,520 --> 03:50:08,959
Speaker 8: With my presence, Some things like that are overshadowed.

4116
03:50:10,239 --> 03:50:15,399
Speaker 3: Okay, what do you want? You pin Sting and you

4117
03:50:15,520 --> 03:50:18,280
beat Sting? We you know everyone saw it, but you

4118
03:50:18,319 --> 03:50:21,399
apparently no one noticed it because you're you.

4119
03:50:21,760 --> 03:50:22,639
Speaker 7: What are you talking about?

4120
03:50:22,840 --> 03:50:22,879
Speaker 5: Like?

4121
03:50:23,239 --> 03:50:23,760
Speaker 7: I noticed?

4122
03:50:23,760 --> 03:50:25,079
Speaker 3: Still fucking sense whatsoever?

4123
03:50:25,360 --> 03:50:26,559
Speaker 7: I noticed it. I watched the show.

4124
03:50:26,639 --> 03:50:27,079
Speaker 3: What do you want?

4125
03:50:27,879 --> 03:50:28,040
Speaker 8: I know?

4126
03:50:28,239 --> 03:50:30,879
Speaker 3: I watched the I watched the fucking three minute clip

4127
03:50:31,000 --> 03:50:33,399
version in your fucking video cassette. Do you expect to

4128
03:50:33,399 --> 03:50:36,200
happen when you beat Sting? That didn't happen? People to

4129
03:50:36,239 --> 03:50:38,600
give a ship? No, I guess Dave Meltzer wasn't talking

4130
03:50:38,600 --> 03:50:40,120
about how fucking Sid beat Sting.

4131
03:50:40,239 --> 03:50:44,559
Speaker 7: He doesn't read this the sheets anyway. Is a nice

4132
03:50:44,559 --> 03:50:48,280
finish though, after Superblex, after which Sid just gets up

4133
03:50:48,280 --> 03:50:50,280
as if nothing touched him and stands in the corner

4134
03:50:50,360 --> 03:50:53,760
to take the splash. Sting goes up airborne for the

4135
03:50:53,799 --> 03:50:56,040
stinger splash in the corner and said goozles them out

4136
03:50:56,040 --> 03:50:57,719
of mid air and choke slams.

4137
03:50:57,719 --> 03:51:00,520
Speaker 3: Does He hits two stinger splashes and the third one

4138
03:51:01,360 --> 03:51:03,959
Sid catches him, choke slam, gets the pennant's a really

4139
03:51:03,959 --> 03:51:04,680
good finish.

4140
03:51:04,559 --> 03:51:07,479
Speaker 7: Just powers through. And I think I bet Sid kind

4141
03:51:07,479 --> 03:51:09,399
of saw that laid out that way and thought it

4142
03:51:09,479 --> 03:51:11,719
was such a strong win over a strong face in

4143
03:51:11,840 --> 03:51:14,520
Sting that it would be considered impactful and people would

4144
03:51:14,520 --> 03:51:16,920
want to see him headline. And he probably didn't get

4145
03:51:16,959 --> 03:51:20,879
the feedback loop he was expecting from from probably negotiating

4146
03:51:21,440 --> 03:51:23,600
a very decisive win hero for the Sting or probably

4147
03:51:23,680 --> 03:51:25,360
told himself this would be a big launch thing if

4148
03:51:25,360 --> 03:51:27,799
he could collect Stings scalp. But at the time Sting

4149
03:51:28,000 --> 03:51:31,319
was making everybody a nut, you know, really try anything

4150
03:51:31,360 --> 03:51:31,799
for him.

4151
03:51:33,200 --> 03:51:35,159
Speaker 3: A punching bag. Back then, I can't even think of

4152
03:51:35,280 --> 03:51:37,840
ninety nine Sting as being anything interesting. I really know.

4153
03:51:37,959 --> 03:51:42,479
Speaker 7: He had that absolutely fantastic match with DDP on Nitro.

4154
03:51:42,719 --> 03:51:46,280
I think it was April or May timeframe. It's one

4155
03:51:46,319 --> 03:51:49,239
of the best matches ever on Monday night. But that

4156
03:51:49,399 --> 03:51:50,799
was the thing. He would just go out there and

4157
03:51:50,959 --> 03:51:53,879
just perform and have good matches. But he didn't have

4158
03:51:54,120 --> 03:51:56,479
a structured push. He wasn't like the guy. He didn't

4159
03:51:56,479 --> 03:51:58,639
have a belt, he didn't have a lot of promo time.

4160
03:51:58,680 --> 03:51:59,920
He was just out there as a guy that people

4161
03:51:59,920 --> 03:52:02,040
cared about that could you know, carry a segment.

4162
03:52:02,799 --> 03:52:04,399
Speaker 3: I mean, doesn't he turn a heel on Hogan and

4163
03:52:04,440 --> 03:52:06,280
foll forget it?

4164
03:52:06,319 --> 03:52:09,760
Speaker 7: After that, that's all a joke, and it's all a joke.

4165
03:52:11,040 --> 03:52:13,079
And after getting this huge victory like it was nothing

4166
03:52:13,239 --> 03:52:15,040
at road Wild, Sid hits the floor right away and

4167
03:52:15,159 --> 03:52:17,760
just walks around one more in the record books.

4168
03:52:19,840 --> 03:52:22,239
Speaker 3: I mean, it's your own fault. Actually, then you know

4169
03:52:22,280 --> 03:52:23,680
you're not making a big deal out of it. You're

4170
03:52:23,680 --> 03:52:25,000
just fucking acting like nothing happened.

4171
03:52:25,040 --> 03:52:27,600
Speaker 7: After the studio, Sid's talking about what he loves doing.

4172
03:52:28,760 --> 03:52:31,120
Speaker 8: I love running in, beating up people, what.

4173
03:52:31,680 --> 03:52:34,200
Speaker 7: I love running in. Well, you're in the right company.

4174
03:52:34,959 --> 03:52:38,879
Speaker 12: Yeah, well two, those are the fun things. Those are

4175
03:52:38,920 --> 03:52:42,159
the things that set up mental intimidation factors. And people

4176
03:52:42,239 --> 03:52:46,799
like Cogan's mind Stein Goldberg List goes on Brett Hart.

4177
03:52:48,239 --> 03:52:50,520
They come out here that feel a comic cool. They

4178
03:52:50,559 --> 03:52:53,040
actect those things don't bother them. It didn't affect them.

4179
03:52:54,399 --> 03:52:57,280
Let me tell you something. The day that I walked

4180
03:52:57,319 --> 03:53:01,319
into the door at WCW, those names I just mentioned,

4181
03:53:03,520 --> 03:53:09,360
they felt the threat, the possibility.

4182
03:53:10,120 --> 03:53:12,280
Speaker 8: That they may fail.

4183
03:53:13,440 --> 03:53:18,360
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that they felt fail threat, the threat

4184
03:53:19,200 --> 03:53:20,879
the possibility that they may fail.

4185
03:53:20,760 --> 03:53:25,159
Speaker 7: Fail yeah, or fail, as he says, I understand that's

4186
03:53:25,200 --> 03:53:30,479
not a yes, they may fail. Well, much can be

4187
03:53:30,479 --> 03:53:33,520
said about World Championship press threat. How about the August

4188
03:53:33,520 --> 03:53:35,479
sixteenth nightro in ninety nine where Sid hits the ring

4189
03:53:35,520 --> 03:53:39,079
on hoovent Tude Guerrera versus Lash LaRue and kills fuckers

4190
03:53:39,079 --> 03:53:39,879
with power bombs.

4191
03:53:40,719 --> 03:53:41,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good.

4192
03:53:41,520 --> 03:53:43,280
Speaker 7: And the name two thousand, the name said vicious will

4193
03:53:43,280 --> 03:53:45,520
be heard the loudest, he says. And in the year

4194
03:53:45,559 --> 03:53:47,639
two thousand, I will accumulate more wins than anyone in

4195
03:53:47,680 --> 03:53:50,440
the history of professional wrestling. As the crowd chanting asshole

4196
03:53:50,479 --> 03:53:53,200
on her board, Yeah, he says, the name Goldberg will

4197
03:53:53,200 --> 03:53:55,159
be obsolete. And you, mister Hogan, and you can chant

4198
03:53:55,200 --> 03:53:56,920
Hogan all night long, which they don't.

4199
03:53:57,000 --> 03:53:59,159
Speaker 3: I think I think I have part of this.

4200
03:53:59,239 --> 03:54:02,280
Speaker 16: Here, he das.

4201
03:54:03,239 --> 03:54:05,959
Speaker 4: No one knows what's happening, is.

4202
03:54:07,040 --> 03:54:09,600
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't thank you.

4203
03:54:13,520 --> 03:54:18,600
Speaker 20: In the years two thousand, the names in visus will

4204
03:54:18,719 --> 03:54:21,000
be worth the loudest.

4205
03:54:24,719 --> 03:54:25,799
Speaker 5: Do what you like.

4206
03:54:31,000 --> 03:54:38,440
Speaker 20: Two thousand oh to night for whims. Let anyone ever

4207
03:54:38,719 --> 03:54:54,239
has believe Professon rastling But they go, where will be out?

4208
03:54:54,479 --> 03:54:58,159
Time you missed the holden.

4209
03:54:59,399 --> 03:55:02,719
Speaker 16: I just to didn't hold a hold in?

4210
03:55:03,719 --> 03:55:06,040
Speaker 2: Hold good, oh nice.

4211
03:55:06,760 --> 03:55:07,600
Speaker 7: And they don't.

4212
03:55:09,799 --> 03:55:10,280
Speaker 4: Hold gun.

4213
03:55:11,520 --> 03:55:16,440
Speaker 20: You've got something that belongs to me, the world head

4214
03:55:16,479 --> 03:55:17,840
away belt.

4215
03:55:20,000 --> 03:55:22,399
Speaker 2: You see, you're not away Chap.

4216
03:55:22,920 --> 03:55:24,200
Speaker 16: They'll tell you to talk to me.

4217
03:55:24,440 --> 03:55:29,639
Speaker 2: This talking and I'm gonna do this oh nice, long.

4218
03:55:32,440 --> 03:55:35,520
Speaker 20: Holdan coming down the kidding me?

4219
03:55:36,680 --> 03:55:37,479
Speaker 2: What is Mick?

4220
03:55:40,040 --> 03:55:40,879
Speaker 4: The bottom line?

4221
03:55:44,200 --> 03:55:46,200
Speaker 3: So, I mean, basically, are you telling me that the

4222
03:55:46,319 --> 03:55:48,920
fans weren't booing in because they had heat on them?

4223
03:55:48,959 --> 03:55:51,120
They were just they it was kind of the bad heat.

4224
03:55:53,000 --> 03:55:55,399
Speaker 7: It's just so sad on second chant Hogan all night long,

4225
03:55:55,440 --> 03:55:55,840
and they don't.

4226
03:55:57,280 --> 03:55:59,239
Speaker 3: I just uh, you know, because I I mean I

4227
03:55:59,319 --> 03:56:01,920
heard the boo and seven it's like it's actually pretty intense.

4228
03:56:02,000 --> 03:56:04,319
But now it seems like you're telling me that it's

4229
03:56:04,399 --> 03:56:05,440
it's not actually good heat.

4230
03:56:05,600 --> 03:56:09,479
Speaker 7: That's great, that's sticky television. Later, Sid runs in on

4231
03:56:09,559 --> 03:56:12,799
Steve Rigel Canyon match and kills both of them, and

4232
03:56:12,879 --> 03:56:14,440
these all count as wins as we talked.

4233
03:56:14,239 --> 03:56:17,399
Speaker 3: About earlier, right, But that's that's pretty fucking.

4234
03:56:17,440 --> 03:56:19,879
Speaker 7: Its backstage attacking Silver King and Laparca throwing him onto

4235
03:56:19,920 --> 03:56:22,200
boxes and then he power bombs La Parka onto a

4236
03:56:22,360 --> 03:56:27,680
huge sack of you know, arena vending popcorn, and Tony

4237
03:56:27,719 --> 03:56:30,680
Shivani says, thank god the popcorn, thank God for the popcorn.

4238
03:56:30,719 --> 03:56:33,639
I shit, you know. He says that later on Ray

4239
03:56:33,680 --> 03:56:36,000
Mysterio sent orbit from the middle rope.

4240
03:56:36,159 --> 03:56:40,280
Speaker 3: And Loady seriously, he's his fucking destroying all these these

4241
03:56:40,319 --> 03:56:42,120
fucking Ham and Eggers.

4242
03:56:41,879 --> 03:56:44,000
Speaker 7: Have said Lawn Dark Ray like Nash did back in

4243
03:56:44,079 --> 03:56:47,360
the day, and Loady is all over this tape. He

4244
03:56:47,520 --> 03:56:50,200
gets it as well. Double chokes lamb for both Lodi

4245
03:56:50,280 --> 03:56:52,360
and Lenny. If you remember Lanny Lane and Lodi.

4246
03:56:53,319 --> 03:56:56,120
Speaker 3: I try not to. I know we we have seen

4247
03:56:56,200 --> 03:56:59,680
Lodi before. I'd rather just let that go away, just let.

4248
03:56:59,639 --> 03:57:03,520
Speaker 7: That's it the future creative control. Once Russeau got his

4249
03:57:03,600 --> 03:57:05,920
hands on My Life and Sid comes out, he says,

4250
03:57:05,920 --> 03:57:07,920
I'm the next w W heavyweight Champion in the world.

4251
03:57:09,079 --> 03:57:11,680
Tony says he's has fifty five wins with no blemishes.

4252
03:57:11,760 --> 03:57:14,280
Is the Red and Yellow Hogan is suddenly on our

4253
03:57:14,319 --> 03:57:17,360
screens with the w W Big Old World title belt

4254
03:57:17,399 --> 03:57:20,319
on his waist and a bandana. Slides into the ring

4255
03:57:20,360 --> 03:57:22,360
and gets stomped by Sid. As soon as he gets

4256
03:57:22,399 --> 03:57:23,760
in with Tony talked about the fansom.

4257
03:57:23,799 --> 03:57:25,399
Speaker 3: Now this is the WrestleMania rematch.

4258
03:57:25,600 --> 03:57:27,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, they start the same exact way, all.

4259
03:57:27,840 --> 03:57:30,200
Speaker 3: Right, like we're not you know, it's not the other one.

4260
03:57:30,280 --> 03:57:33,840
That's that's not a that wasn't it. That was Hollywood Hogan.

4261
03:57:33,959 --> 03:57:35,799
This is this is the real and you know what,

4262
03:57:37,000 --> 03:57:40,520
it goes the same way for the most part. Yeah,

4263
03:57:41,520 --> 03:57:42,319
it's kind of funny.

4264
03:57:42,440 --> 03:57:44,239
Speaker 7: Just think about how much time we spent kind of

4265
03:57:44,799 --> 03:57:47,239
you know, revisiting how they built up Sid Hogan at

4266
03:57:47,239 --> 03:57:49,079
WrestleMania and how they managed to make it feel so

4267
03:57:49,159 --> 03:57:51,280
big and all the promos and yeah, the intensity of

4268
03:57:51,319 --> 03:57:52,959
Sid's walk to the ring in the Hoosier Dome and

4269
03:57:53,000 --> 03:57:55,319
all of that stuff. I think about what they managed

4270
03:57:55,360 --> 03:57:57,760
to achieve there with these two and now look at this,

4271
03:57:58,479 --> 03:57:59,920
this is only seven years later.

4272
03:58:00,000 --> 03:58:02,719
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. That's the thing, you know, that's part

4273
03:58:02,799 --> 03:58:08,360
of the that's part of what is not talked about. Yes,

4274
03:58:09,000 --> 03:58:14,120
during the glory period of the Attitude era, people don't

4275
03:58:14,200 --> 03:58:20,200
talk about the fact that things you're they were so

4276
03:58:20,520 --> 03:58:26,000
desperate to one up each other that they didn't think

4277
03:58:28,360 --> 03:58:30,440
building to the next show. It was about building to

4278
03:58:30,479 --> 03:58:34,239
the next moment tonight very much, and and that.

4279
03:58:36,600 --> 03:58:40,200
Speaker 7: And seeing Hogan versait is nitro matches instead of paper

4280
03:58:40,280 --> 03:58:43,799
virdliners right, crazy.

4281
03:58:44,639 --> 03:58:47,319
Speaker 3: It's it's it's a complete waste. I just would never.

4282
03:58:47,280 --> 03:58:50,760
Speaker 7: Imagine, considering the place in my heart that this match

4283
03:58:50,840 --> 03:58:53,959
held from WRESTLEMANIAID, that I would be this indifferent to

4284
03:58:54,040 --> 03:58:55,760
it once they finally got around to rematching in the

4285
03:58:55,799 --> 03:59:00,239
same company here, I am Logan get stop as soon

4286
03:59:00,280 --> 03:59:01,920
as he gets in, and Tony talking about the fan

4287
03:59:02,000 --> 03:59:04,440
support being firmly on Hogan's side, which they, let me

4288
03:59:04,479 --> 03:59:07,040
tell you, they were rejoicing that for a split second there.

4289
03:59:07,360 --> 03:59:09,479
The WCW crowd went for the Hogan red and yellow

4290
03:59:09,520 --> 03:59:13,319
nostalgia act because they had it right. They had soured

4291
03:59:13,360 --> 03:59:16,239
on the Hollywood Hogan thing for sure. Hogan with a

4292
03:59:16,239 --> 03:59:18,479
black knee brace behind the red knee pad and yeah,

4293
03:59:18,520 --> 03:59:20,799
I noticed that too. Sid slams, Hogan drops the leg

4294
03:59:20,920 --> 03:59:24,200
this time drops it and then Hogan, yes, pops up right.

4295
03:59:24,920 --> 03:59:29,239
Speaker 3: But by the way, Shavani calls Sid the Man of

4296
03:59:29,280 --> 03:59:33,360
the Millennium. Is that better or worse than millennium man?

4297
03:59:33,360 --> 03:59:34,040
Speaker 7: I think that's worse.

4298
03:59:35,280 --> 03:59:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. The Man of the Millennium

4299
03:59:38,719 --> 03:59:39,639
sounds so stupid.

4300
03:59:40,200 --> 03:59:41,879
Speaker 7: It really, it really does. But that was all I

4301
03:59:41,959 --> 03:59:43,680
want to talk about in nineteen ninety nine, as.

4302
03:59:43,600 --> 03:59:46,479
Speaker 3: You know, I know, I know, everyone's talking about fucking

4303
03:59:46,639 --> 03:59:49,120
y two K and that's probably why they rushed out

4304
03:59:49,159 --> 03:59:51,840
to get these vhs is out so fast, because who

4305
03:59:51,920 --> 03:59:53,200
knows that they were even gonna be able to use

4306
03:59:54,399 --> 03:59:55,639
the VHS equipment.

4307
03:59:55,719 --> 03:59:58,319
Speaker 7: Now everything would be on the fritz, you know. Hogan

4308
03:59:58,360 --> 03:59:59,959
pops up, hulking up and goes off with a hand

4309
04:00:00,120 --> 04:00:01,760
ends I can't believe my eyes if this is what

4310
04:00:02,520 --> 04:00:03,520
what we're going to right now.

4311
04:00:04,559 --> 04:00:08,360
Speaker 3: By the way, there's a there's a funny moment where

4312
04:00:08,479 --> 04:00:13,920
uh uh uh sid uh Sid tells Hogan he's got

4313
04:00:14,000 --> 04:00:14,360
a brain.

4314
04:00:20,520 --> 04:00:25,079
Speaker 7: I've got a brain. We'll see about that, Sid. As

4315
04:00:25,120 --> 04:00:27,200
he hits the floor and he's straddling the guardrail when

4316
04:00:27,239 --> 04:00:29,319
he says that, by the way, yeah yeah he is,

4317
04:00:29,399 --> 04:00:31,920
Tony says, we need a word from the championship committee.

4318
04:00:32,200 --> 04:00:34,479
If you count and the guy he's laid out, it

4319
04:00:34,520 --> 04:00:36,920
would be nine. I don't always talking about there.

4320
04:00:37,079 --> 04:00:39,520
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I guess he laid out somebody on the floor.

4321
04:00:40,000 --> 04:00:44,040
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, does that count the champions record? Yeah, okay,

4322
04:00:45,200 --> 04:00:49,799
we would that be the win loss committee mostly loss.

4323
04:00:50,559 --> 04:00:51,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, the floor.

4324
04:00:52,040 --> 04:00:53,399
Speaker 7: Hogan hits him in the back of the chair, throws

4325
04:00:53,479 --> 04:00:55,479
him over the guardrails, that takes over, taps Hogan on

4326
04:00:55,520 --> 04:00:57,120
the back with the chair in his own right. Hogan

4327
04:00:57,159 --> 04:01:00,680
goes into a table shouting spots to each other, goosele

4328
04:01:00,760 --> 04:01:02,680
and choke slamb Hogan takes the bump, but he doesn't

4329
04:01:02,680 --> 04:01:03,920
cover him. Sid does not cover him.

4330
04:01:03,920 --> 04:01:06,000
Speaker 3: He says, I don't know what the fuck that's all about.

4331
04:01:06,000 --> 04:01:08,559
Speaker 7: It He says, no, we'll do it, and then he

4332
04:01:08,639 --> 04:01:09,840
covers him after a break.

4333
04:01:10,200 --> 04:01:15,360
Speaker 3: He does. I understand, and then understand why he didn't, why.

4334
04:01:15,319 --> 04:01:17,159
Speaker 7: He has I don't know what he's waiting for, but

4335
04:01:17,200 --> 04:01:19,079
what he goes for it hold kicks out, holds up big.

4336
04:01:19,000 --> 04:01:22,799
Speaker 3: Boot leg and and uh, look at this. It's wrestleming

4337
04:01:22,959 --> 04:01:23,760
Ate all over again.

4338
04:01:23,600 --> 04:01:26,000
Speaker 7: My god, because we have to get a fucking run

4339
04:01:26,079 --> 04:01:26,959
in finish again.

4340
04:01:27,200 --> 04:01:30,360
Speaker 3: On n Rake Rick Steiner. Rick Steiner plays Papa Shango

4341
04:01:30,440 --> 04:01:33,360
but actually makes it on time so Cid isn't forced

4342
04:01:33,360 --> 04:01:35,120
to kick out of the leg drops. It's Rick Steiner,

4343
04:01:35,239 --> 04:01:38,120
I mean what it is Rick Steiner? And then Sting

4344
04:01:38,200 --> 04:01:39,120
plays Ultimate Warrior.

4345
04:01:40,360 --> 04:01:41,280
Speaker 7: Yeah he does you're right.

4346
04:01:41,360 --> 04:01:43,520
Speaker 3: Thing comes in, comes in to save the day. He

4347
04:01:43,559 --> 04:01:45,840
plays ultimate warrior. The ring is filled with.

4348
04:01:45,920 --> 04:01:48,479
Speaker 7: Guard right, you can tell where Hogan. Hogan doesn't have

4349
04:01:48,559 --> 04:01:50,719
a very deep well, ladies and gentlemen, No, he does

4350
04:01:50,799 --> 04:01:51,719
not have two ideas.

4351
04:01:52,200 --> 04:01:56,000
Speaker 3: This is wrestleming. He ate all over again, except for

4352
04:01:56,159 --> 04:01:59,680
this finish Abso, okay, are you ready for this ship.

4353
04:01:59,559 --> 04:02:02,440
Speaker 7: He's gonna have Stink turn on him like fucking uh right,

4354
04:02:02,559 --> 04:02:03,719
the Abyss and everybody else.

4355
04:02:04,479 --> 04:02:07,559
Speaker 3: But so they cut They kind of cut away pretty

4356
04:02:07,600 --> 04:02:11,319
quickly because it's not about Hogan Steiner staying or whatever.

4357
04:02:11,319 --> 04:02:18,719
It's about Sid. So Hogan boots Steiner and he drops

4358
04:02:18,799 --> 04:02:23,600
the leg and I went because I knew what was

4359
04:02:23,639 --> 04:02:26,000
going to happen. Not that I had ever seen this before,

4360
04:02:26,760 --> 04:02:28,520
but I knew what was going to happen, I mean,

4361
04:02:28,920 --> 04:02:36,280
And so I found the match and Hogan covers rick Steiner.

4362
04:02:36,559 --> 04:02:38,239
Speaker 7: They don't show that on the Millennium Man tape.

4363
04:02:39,319 --> 04:02:42,079
Speaker 3: They do not. They they faded black before it happens.

4364
04:02:42,120 --> 04:02:44,559
Speaker 7: He has to get the one two three on rick Steiner.

4365
04:02:44,520 --> 04:02:47,840
Speaker 3: And he has Charles Robinson register the bogus three count.

4366
04:02:48,040 --> 04:02:49,639
Speaker 7: Rick Steiner wasn't in the match. It was a one

4367
04:02:49,680 --> 04:02:50,239
on one match.

4368
04:02:50,440 --> 04:02:53,239
Speaker 3: He wasn't in the match. It was sid In Hogan.

4369
04:02:53,079 --> 04:02:55,680
Speaker 7: Because our whole thing about Hogan being obsessed with the

4370
04:02:55,760 --> 04:03:00,559
visual pinfall is just a figment of our imagination, right.

4371
04:03:00,920 --> 04:03:05,159
Speaker 3: Right, Like you know, because what what what sane individual

4372
04:03:08,440 --> 04:03:10,440
thinks that this is a good.

4373
04:03:10,319 --> 04:03:13,239
Speaker 7: Thing covers anybody he can to register as many victories

4374
04:03:13,280 --> 04:03:16,680
as he can, as many visual bouts of superiority.

4375
04:03:18,079 --> 04:03:19,879
Speaker 3: I mean, it is without it, it is one of

4376
04:03:19,920 --> 04:03:26,040
the more ludicrous moments ever ever.

4377
04:03:26,440 --> 04:03:28,319
Speaker 7: And it's also worth noting the ring is filling up

4378
04:03:28,399 --> 04:03:30,319
and completely with garbage, you know, cups and.

4379
04:03:30,440 --> 04:03:33,879
Speaker 3: Completely with I mean we're talking nWo like I'm gonna

4380
04:03:33,920 --> 04:03:36,360
tell you, I am gonna bash of the beach ninety

4381
04:03:36,399 --> 04:03:36,959
six garbage.

4382
04:03:36,959 --> 04:03:38,600
Speaker 7: I want to say right here that that had to

4383
04:03:38,680 --> 04:03:42,879
be mostly manufactured, because there's no reason that people were.

4384
04:03:43,680 --> 04:03:46,760
Speaker 3: That he didn't. The only reason I think they'd be

4385
04:03:46,840 --> 04:03:50,079
upset is because, like we get another fucking bogus fantasy.

4386
04:03:50,159 --> 04:03:51,879
Speaker 7: See that, I do see that, But if I also

4387
04:03:51,959 --> 04:03:54,840
see the way bishofs gears turn in a place of desperation,

4388
04:03:55,079 --> 04:03:57,959
He's trying to recreate the atmosphere that he knows was money.

4389
04:03:58,559 --> 04:04:01,000
So let's get I would put it past them to

4390
04:04:01,120 --> 04:04:04,719
engineer some you know, certain people in the crowd starting

4391
04:04:05,120 --> 04:04:07,239
the trend of throwing the drinks, then everybody.

4392
04:04:06,879 --> 04:04:07,639
Speaker 3: Else follows suit.

4393
04:04:07,840 --> 04:04:09,920
Speaker 7: Because this this seemed very inorganic to me.

4394
04:04:11,120 --> 04:04:13,280
Speaker 3: But what do I know now, maybe it will. You're

4395
04:04:13,280 --> 04:04:16,120
probably right this from the I mean, it did surprise me,

4396
04:04:16,239 --> 04:04:18,719
like I'm not. I was actually thinking to myself, this

4397
04:04:18,799 --> 04:04:20,959
seems like a little bit of a low key matchup,

4398
04:04:21,559 --> 04:04:25,520
a low key moment to fucking exactly started throwing shit

4399
04:04:25,600 --> 04:04:26,040
in there.

4400
04:04:26,479 --> 04:04:28,840
Speaker 7: From the observer. At the time, paced by a series

4401
04:04:28,840 --> 04:04:31,319
of number one contenders matches that drew huge quarter hours,

4402
04:04:31,440 --> 04:04:33,520
RAW was back up to a six point six to

4403
04:04:33,600 --> 04:04:35,799
two ratings six point three eight first hour, six point

4404
04:04:35,799 --> 04:04:37,920
eight three second hour, and a ten point six share

4405
04:04:38,000 --> 04:04:40,520
on August sixteenth. This is the August sixteenth Nitro we're

4406
04:04:40,520 --> 04:04:43,239
talking about here. In nineteen ninety nine, Nitro, which was

4407
04:04:43,360 --> 04:04:45,440
doubled in six of the eight had to head Quarters

4408
04:04:46,079 --> 04:04:48,040
finished with a three point two eight rating three point

4409
04:04:48,120 --> 04:04:50,280
seven eight first hour two point eight nine, second hour

4410
04:04:50,360 --> 04:04:52,440
three point one eight, third hour at a five point

4411
04:04:52,479 --> 04:04:54,120
four share Over the head to had two hours and

4412
04:04:54,159 --> 04:04:56,959
six minutes, Raw did a six point five eight rating

4413
04:04:57,159 --> 04:05:01,280
to Nitro's three point oh four WWF to were a

4414
04:05:01,360 --> 04:05:04,440
monstrous seven point twenty seven quarter which featured both the

4415
04:05:04,520 --> 04:05:07,120
China Verse Triple H match along with the Jericho confrontation

4416
04:05:07,200 --> 04:05:09,920
of Undertaker and Big Show. The Mankind Versus China match

4417
04:05:10,000 --> 04:05:13,000
tore a seven point one zero rating, while the Mankind

4418
04:05:13,079 --> 04:05:14,719
vers Triple H match dre a six point one to

4419
04:05:14,719 --> 04:05:17,360
three final quarter and the overrun, which went unopposed in

4420
04:05:17,399 --> 04:05:19,479
the final three minutes, grew to a seven point one

4421
04:05:19,520 --> 04:05:21,239
to three. There was very little in the way of

4422
04:05:21,280 --> 04:05:24,239
good news for Nitro other than a relatively strong showing

4423
04:05:24,440 --> 04:05:26,440
of the Hulk cog and versus Sid Vicious main event

4424
04:05:26,840 --> 04:05:29,440
promoted heavily throughout the show, which did a three point

4425
04:05:29,479 --> 04:05:32,520
sixty four final quarter and a four point two six overrun.

4426
04:05:32,879 --> 04:05:35,479
So that is boss a three point six y four

4427
04:05:35,600 --> 04:05:40,040
for hul Coke and Versus SID to a seven points

4428
04:05:40,319 --> 04:05:44,920
two seven for China Verse Triple H and the rest

4429
04:05:45,000 --> 04:05:47,799
and then China Mankind seven point one zero. Just a

4430
04:05:48,040 --> 04:05:51,079
huge gap. I mean, I do remember them building that well,

4431
04:05:51,280 --> 04:05:53,559
and nobody's talking about they did the same with the

4432
04:05:53,600 --> 04:05:56,040
first match when he was in Hollywood Colors. They did

4433
04:05:56,079 --> 04:05:58,000
a really good job of like in the Macho Man

4434
04:05:58,040 --> 04:05:59,680
match I mentioned we're holding up the belt back of

4435
04:06:00,079 --> 04:06:02,879
you know, teasing it and segue making you want to

4436
04:06:02,920 --> 04:06:06,000
stay tuned for the main event. Now, the finish they

4437
04:06:06,040 --> 04:06:08,000
delivered in the sid match was not something that make

4438
04:06:08,079 --> 04:06:09,600
you want to come along for the ride next.

4439
04:06:09,479 --> 04:06:12,479
Speaker 3: Time, not at all. No, I'd I'd definitely quit.

4440
04:06:12,440 --> 04:06:14,760
Speaker 7: Alto wroute the two quarters that Rod didn't double Nitro

4441
04:06:14,959 --> 04:06:17,159
or the second quarter where Road Dog versus Al Snow

4442
04:06:17,200 --> 04:06:19,360
and the beginning of an Undertaker show. Jericho's segment went

4443
04:06:19,399 --> 04:06:22,239
against Diamond Dallas Page versus Kidman, which was a five

4444
04:06:22,319 --> 04:06:24,600
point seven to three point two margin, and the final

4445
04:06:24,680 --> 04:06:27,079
quarter the biggest gap was the China Vers Triple h

4446
04:06:27,200 --> 04:06:29,639
quarter going against Ben Wavers Disco, which was the best

4447
04:06:29,680 --> 04:06:32,040
actual wrestling match of either show, but true the lowest

4448
04:06:32,120 --> 04:06:34,200
quarter of the night at two point four to two.

4449
04:06:35,239 --> 04:06:51,200
Speaker 1: The lap Fan Wrestling Podcast the wrestling podcast that knows

4450
04:06:51,280 --> 04:07:00,120
the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan m

4451
04:07:09,159 --> 04:07:13,040
He's an Elapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio,

4452
04:07:13,559 --> 04:07:14,440
m J. Piso.

4453
04:07:15,000 --> 04:07:18,040
Speaker 7: Back to Studio ZID. What type of person are you,

4454
04:07:18,799 --> 04:07:19,040
m H.

4455
04:07:21,319 --> 04:07:23,719
Speaker 8: I'm the type of person that I'm gonna be in

4456
04:07:23,879 --> 04:07:26,479
your face. If I have something to say, I'm not

4457
04:07:26,520 --> 04:07:27,799
gonna do it behind your back.

4458
04:07:28,479 --> 04:07:30,440
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go afront you face to face, and I'm

4459
04:07:30,440 --> 04:07:32,239
gonna let you know how I feel face to face.

4460
04:07:43,319 --> 04:08:32,000
Speaker 4: Six sixteen Saturday. Here he's a ride.

4461
04:08:33,120 --> 04:08:33,719
Speaker 3: What a ride.

4462
04:08:34,200 --> 04:08:36,399
Speaker 7: So he's racking up wins over Johnny the Bull and

4463
04:08:36,559 --> 04:08:40,280
Michael Gripwreck and Hoovey and Lodi and Lenny, and he's

4464
04:08:40,360 --> 04:08:42,719
going up to seventy and Disco Inferno, all these guys

4465
04:08:42,760 --> 04:08:45,239
eating shit. And then we go to the August thirtieth

4466
04:08:45,319 --> 04:08:48,200
ninety nine Nitro now at seventy five, and oh yeah,

4467
04:08:48,280 --> 04:08:50,159
there's no end. There's no end, there's no end.

4468
04:08:50,239 --> 04:08:55,319
Speaker 3: He says, Yeah, well you have I have from when

4469
04:08:55,360 --> 04:08:56,559
he says, and the tally.

4470
04:08:56,520 --> 04:08:59,840
Speaker 7: Just keeps what game we play is real easy to

4471
04:09:00,079 --> 04:09:02,200
men and are only one man survives? Thank God for

4472
04:09:02,319 --> 04:09:05,799
these dissolves. By the way, how torturous these promos were

4473
04:09:05,879 --> 04:09:08,879
back then To watch him meander through, you know, ten

4474
04:09:08,959 --> 04:09:11,600
minutes of open mic time, I mean, it just.

4475
04:09:11,639 --> 04:09:14,200
Speaker 3: Hurts to know, like what I know, because I actually

4476
04:09:14,239 --> 04:09:17,760
thought this stuff was like he came across such as

4477
04:09:17,799 --> 04:09:24,239
such a maniacal beast. But I'm understanding that that's not

4478
04:09:24,360 --> 04:09:24,680
the case.

4479
04:09:24,760 --> 04:09:26,319
Speaker 7: You see it side by side by side, like, oh

4480
04:09:26,360 --> 04:09:28,000
my god, it's much like when we played, you know,

4481
04:09:28,159 --> 04:09:30,399
samples of all his promos from his first title run

4482
04:09:30,479 --> 04:09:32,959
in WWF, it's like, oh my god. When you listen

4483
04:09:32,959 --> 04:09:34,479
to him side by side, like this guy just says

4484
04:09:34,520 --> 04:09:37,280
the same thing over and over and over again. Yeah,

4485
04:09:37,360 --> 04:09:39,280
and in pro wrestling, to some degree, that's fine, and

4486
04:09:39,440 --> 04:09:41,639
if you have the space of you know, not having

4487
04:09:41,680 --> 04:09:43,520
it side by side and a week passes, it's not

4488
04:09:43,639 --> 04:09:45,879
so bad. But when you see him like this, you're like, dude,

4489
04:09:45,920 --> 04:09:47,920
this guy has no idea how to carry a tune,

4490
04:09:48,000 --> 04:09:48,200
so to.

4491
04:09:48,200 --> 04:09:49,239
Speaker 3: Speak on the microphone.

4492
04:09:49,600 --> 04:09:51,079
Speaker 7: And it was bad because they put him out there

4493
04:09:51,120 --> 04:09:53,120
for like fifteen minutes every week and he just stand

4494
04:09:53,200 --> 04:09:56,719
there and he try to, you know, allude to the streak.

4495
04:09:56,760 --> 04:09:58,600
He tried to tease a couple of matches, and you

4496
04:09:58,680 --> 04:10:01,280
could just tell he was constantly having a reset and

4497
04:10:01,360 --> 04:10:04,319
remind himself like what he was there to say, and

4498
04:10:04,600 --> 04:10:08,520
it was it was bad television. Back to studio or

4499
04:10:08,600 --> 04:10:10,000
you have something for the promom, Sorry, well.

4500
04:10:09,879 --> 04:10:13,520
Speaker 3: I have this, I have this, this, this, this tally

4501
04:10:13,639 --> 04:10:16,920
thing here and the time goes higher.

4502
04:10:18,040 --> 04:10:24,159
Speaker 4: They're higher, and it seems that there's just snowing.

4503
04:10:25,680 --> 04:10:31,120
Speaker 7: There's no Yeah, I know said there's no, there's no.

4504
04:10:32,920 --> 04:10:33,559
Speaker 9: So now.

4505
04:10:34,959 --> 04:10:37,120
Speaker 4: I don't have to pick it up a little bit,

4506
04:10:38,639 --> 04:10:40,399
bringing sty to me.

4507
04:10:41,959 --> 04:10:43,239
Speaker 2: Ringing over high.

4508
04:10:44,079 --> 04:10:44,959
Speaker 12: They're high.

4509
04:10:47,719 --> 04:10:53,280
Speaker 2: To prove the outs a gout.

4510
04:10:54,520 --> 04:11:05,600
Speaker 4: Dim the Milaennium man and I have no cal because

4511
04:11:05,680 --> 04:11:07,600
the game we play is real easy.

4512
04:11:09,040 --> 04:11:09,719
Speaker 11: To leave it.

4513
04:11:11,520 --> 04:11:18,600
Speaker 20: And only one man survice and how keep loton t

4514
04:11:18,719 --> 04:11:20,479
I don't come love.

4515
04:11:25,959 --> 04:11:34,000
Speaker 16: Wow, he means business.

4516
04:11:36,600 --> 04:11:41,799
Speaker 20: We have covered in two thousand. They will always sing

4517
04:11:42,079 --> 04:11:46,040
one name I never will be.

4518
04:11:47,520 --> 04:11:47,840
Speaker 8: Said.

4519
04:11:48,000 --> 04:11:48,559
Speaker 9: This is.

4520
04:11:50,159 --> 04:11:50,520
Speaker 8: And that.

4521
04:11:52,239 --> 04:11:54,680
Speaker 12: Says enough.

4522
04:11:56,639 --> 04:12:01,200
Speaker 11: Is this the Millennium man, as he proclase said enough,

4523
04:12:03,959 --> 04:12:07,799
remember that sick enough?

4524
04:12:09,000 --> 04:12:13,799
Speaker 7: Oh my god, you're not kidding Sid, fucking hell.

4525
04:12:15,479 --> 04:12:20,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like it's like he just like you know,

4526
04:12:23,159 --> 04:12:28,159
I mean, he is he is milking beyond milking. I

4527
04:12:28,239 --> 04:12:30,680
don't know how long he was given to do these promos,

4528
04:12:30,799 --> 04:12:33,799
but he is just like on and on and on

4529
04:12:33,920 --> 04:12:39,360
and on. It's so absurd, absurd, and it's worthy of

4530
04:12:39,440 --> 04:12:42,799
a highlight videotape. Apparently, of course, of course, go back.

4531
04:12:42,719 --> 04:12:45,079
Speaker 7: To a studio as Sid now has to throw shade

4532
04:12:45,159 --> 04:12:49,559
on the relatively diminutive Chris ben Waugh because well he's

4533
04:12:49,680 --> 04:12:50,319
not a big man.

4534
04:12:52,600 --> 04:12:56,040
Speaker 12: Chrispin Waugh is, without a doubt, for a small guy.

4535
04:12:56,079 --> 04:12:58,239
It's a very intense competitor. He brings a lot of

4536
04:12:58,319 --> 04:13:01,520
things to the table, but he's not able to do

4537
04:13:01,760 --> 04:13:04,079
is wipe off the table because his arms are so

4538
04:13:04,159 --> 04:13:05,760
short you can't reach over and grab other stuff.

4539
04:13:05,760 --> 04:13:09,920
Speaker 8: And so said, Okay, just kidding.

4540
04:13:10,920 --> 04:13:11,239
Speaker 3: We know.

4541
04:13:14,440 --> 04:13:17,079
Speaker 12: He was foolish enough to give me an opportunity at

4542
04:13:17,120 --> 04:13:22,799
the title shot, and he was nice enough to give it.

4543
04:13:22,840 --> 04:13:26,280
Speaker 3: To me in his own way. Was he foolish enough

4544
04:13:26,360 --> 04:13:27,680
or was he nice in his own way? Yeah?

4545
04:13:27,719 --> 04:13:32,000
Speaker 7: Indeed, unless you think that knock at ben Waffer being

4546
04:13:32,040 --> 04:13:34,760
small was just character work. Here's Sid on the In

4547
04:13:34,879 --> 04:13:38,159
Your Head Wrestling podcast calling a memory around this time.

4548
04:13:38,360 --> 04:13:41,399
Like you mentioned, the Revolution stable is running strong, Chrispin,

4549
04:13:41,440 --> 04:13:45,360
wat Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn all kind of joining forces

4550
04:13:45,479 --> 04:13:50,079
to basically the Radicals before the Radicals in WCW. Sure,

4551
04:13:50,200 --> 04:13:53,239
and came a point on a nightro where Saturn and

4552
04:13:53,319 --> 04:13:55,440
Malinka were matched up against Sid in attack match and

4553
04:13:55,479 --> 04:13:58,639
building to this one and the way that Sid reacts

4554
04:13:58,639 --> 04:14:01,399
to Dean Malinko suggesting something for the for the match.

4555
04:14:01,959 --> 04:14:03,079
Really says it all.

4556
04:14:03,760 --> 04:14:06,559
Speaker 5: Dude, I got one story that's gonna pat myself on

4557
04:14:06,639 --> 04:14:09,479
the back. And this is why I was with people,

4558
04:14:10,040 --> 04:14:14,319
especially anyone, and it just wasn't just one would.

4559
04:14:14,079 --> 04:14:15,280
Speaker 8: Ask me to do something stupid.

4560
04:14:15,760 --> 04:14:18,840
Speaker 5: Now, one night, me and Randy Savage are working Dean

4561
04:14:18,920 --> 04:14:22,799
Malinko and somebody I want to say, Perry Sattern or

4562
04:14:23,120 --> 04:14:27,200
Crispin Mall, and Dean Malinko comes to me and says, hey, man,

4563
04:14:27,600 --> 04:14:29,159
do you mind if I give you.

4564
04:14:29,239 --> 04:14:31,280
Speaker 8: A drop toho? I do a really good drop toho.

4565
04:14:31,840 --> 04:14:33,399
I said, no, Dean, this is what we're gonna do.

4566
04:14:33,520 --> 04:14:36,719
Speaker 5: You're gonna tag in and I'm gonna bomb you, and

4567
04:14:36,840 --> 04:14:39,159
we have the referee throw up another win. Then I'm

4568
04:14:39,159 --> 04:14:41,239
we'll grab you up and do it again and we're

4569
04:14:41,239 --> 04:14:43,239
gonna get another win, you know. And I'm just gonna

4570
04:14:43,319 --> 04:14:45,920
keep doing that to stack up wins. And so we

4571
04:14:46,079 --> 04:14:48,440
left away from that, and Randy goes, man, that's what

4572
04:14:48,600 --> 04:14:51,920
I like to hear. Now that the thing is, Randy

4573
04:14:52,239 --> 04:14:54,959
didn't have enough nerve to say that himself, but I did,

4574
04:14:56,040 --> 04:14:57,200
uh huh, you know.

4575
04:14:58,319 --> 04:15:00,639
Speaker 8: And I did that to anyone I needed to do

4576
04:15:00,760 --> 04:15:02,639
that too, not Dean Malenko.

4577
04:15:05,479 --> 04:15:06,159
Speaker 3: Fucking it.

4578
04:15:06,239 --> 04:15:08,840
Speaker 7: Drop toe hold. No, we're not. I'm gonna power bomb sometimes.

4579
04:15:09,559 --> 04:15:15,520
Speaker 3: Drop toh, Okay, that's what it was. I'm gonna do it.

4580
04:15:15,600 --> 04:15:16,479
Drop toe ho my.

4581
04:15:18,280 --> 04:15:22,159
Speaker 7: Dean Malenko too Studios where they did a bunch of

4582
04:15:22,200 --> 04:15:24,959
Godzilla movies. Sid did the same thing to Van Hammer

4583
04:15:24,959 --> 04:15:26,680
when he came back to w W nineteen ninety three.

4584
04:15:26,719 --> 04:15:28,600
Remember Bill Dundee was in the office and he was like,

4585
04:15:29,360 --> 04:15:31,799
Van Hammer had ideas and say, actually, what we're gonna do? So,

4586
04:15:31,840 --> 04:15:33,200
I'm gonna power bomb me in ten seconds?

4587
04:15:33,239 --> 04:15:35,639
Speaker 3: In pin you what's gonna happen. I'm gonna power bomb

4588
04:15:35,719 --> 04:15:38,760
you in ten seconds. There's no drop to ho. Right,

4589
04:15:39,600 --> 04:15:41,200
there's not gonna be any any.

4590
04:15:41,280 --> 04:15:47,639
Speaker 7: Arm slingers, definitely not, definitely not It's not gonna be you.

4591
04:15:47,799 --> 04:15:54,559
Speaker 3: Any any any any footlocks. Right, We're talking about powerbomb

4592
04:15:54,920 --> 04:15:58,440
and power bomb, power bomb eighteen times until I get

4593
04:15:58,520 --> 04:15:59,360
what I need out of ye.

4594
04:16:00,559 --> 04:16:03,559
Speaker 7: That's the truth. And so we close here with the

4595
04:16:03,600 --> 04:16:06,200
match between Sid and Chris Benoa at Fall Brown nineteen

4596
04:16:06,280 --> 04:16:08,760
ninety nine for the United States Championship. They show on

4597
04:16:08,799 --> 04:16:10,399
the tape of package of them killing a bunch of

4598
04:16:10,479 --> 04:16:12,760
guys and saying ben wi You're the biggest man I've

4599
04:16:12,799 --> 04:16:15,040
ever I've ever faced. O. Ben was saying to Sid,

4600
04:16:15,319 --> 04:16:16,760
You're the biggest man I've ever faced.

4601
04:16:16,799 --> 04:16:19,959
Speaker 3: And this is where we get the revolution. This is

4602
04:16:19,959 --> 04:16:22,000
what got me on the fucking rabbit hole. You're with

4603
04:16:22,159 --> 04:16:27,840
this stupid group called You're the only one he really

4604
04:16:28,079 --> 04:16:28,959
stands out.

4605
04:16:29,479 --> 04:16:30,760
Speaker 16: Well, mister Millennium man.

4606
04:16:31,799 --> 04:16:36,520
Speaker 7: God, I'm not standing out well, mister Millennium man. I'm

4607
04:16:36,559 --> 04:16:40,879
not standing out. I'm stepping up. Okay, Chris, we're doing

4608
04:16:40,920 --> 04:16:44,360
a promo by a murderer, Ben wa doing a promo

4609
04:16:44,479 --> 04:16:47,280
shirtlest with a black wrist tape on Oh my god,

4610
04:16:47,719 --> 04:16:48,239
Ben Wah.

4611
04:16:50,040 --> 04:16:52,959
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I literally I was. I was saying,

4612
04:16:52,959 --> 04:16:55,239
he's got to say something about how he's revolutionary. Oh

4613
04:16:55,319 --> 04:16:58,120
my god, I know I went on this fucking rabbit

4614
04:16:58,159 --> 04:17:01,079
hole looking and looking, not even knowing by the way,

4615
04:17:01,120 --> 04:17:03,639
that that was a fucking thunder, not even a nitro.

4616
04:17:03,799 --> 04:17:06,719
Speaker 7: It was a fun that's pain, and so I was like,

4617
04:17:08,159 --> 04:17:08,760
you know, I'd.

4618
04:17:08,680 --> 04:17:13,920
Speaker 3: Go through eight shows on pecock man.

4619
04:17:14,159 --> 04:17:17,319
Speaker 7: I'm I'm I feel last. I'm certain if it was

4620
04:17:17,399 --> 04:17:19,079
said it was during the said Justice run, it wasn't

4621
04:17:19,120 --> 04:17:19,639
a WSW.

4622
04:17:21,440 --> 04:17:23,520
Speaker 3: It's funny that you say that because I always I

4623
04:17:23,639 --> 04:17:26,920
always remember you talking about it having to do with

4624
04:17:27,000 --> 04:17:32,399
him being the millennium man. I guess not. I guess

4625
04:17:32,479 --> 04:17:34,559
we'll never know. If you're in college, I guess not.

4626
04:17:34,760 --> 04:17:36,399
Speaker 7: We'll never know. Probably the same place I got v

4627
04:17:36,479 --> 04:17:39,840
K thunder Lager from. So it's fall Brown ninety nine

4628
04:17:39,840 --> 04:17:41,680
and Tony Sivanni says, regardless if you feel the winning

4629
04:17:41,680 --> 04:17:44,040
streak is legitimate or not great, So they're giving voice

4630
04:17:44,079 --> 04:17:47,319
to that on the broadcast today says seventy nine and zero.

4631
04:17:47,479 --> 04:17:49,559
When Goldberg won the US title, they say he was

4632
04:17:49,639 --> 04:17:51,639
only seventy five and zero. So that's they're trying to do.

4633
04:17:51,719 --> 04:17:54,600
They're trying to get sid past the point that Goldberg

4634
04:17:54,840 --> 04:17:56,639
was at a similar juncture.

4635
04:17:57,280 --> 04:18:01,280
Speaker 3: So and again, what they needed to do, they really

4636
04:18:01,360 --> 04:18:04,879
needed to have to make that the whole thing work

4637
04:18:05,040 --> 04:18:09,920
and make him seem like an obnoxious tool is to

4638
04:18:10,040 --> 04:18:13,200
have the commentators can always say no, this is not

4639
04:18:13,239 --> 04:18:13,639
act right.

4640
04:18:13,680 --> 04:18:16,920
Speaker 7: Worst they really didn't do until right the backlash was

4641
04:18:16,959 --> 04:18:18,520
such that they kind of like not leaned into it,

4642
04:18:18,639 --> 04:18:21,239
but they were really just thinking that they could just

4643
04:18:21,360 --> 04:18:23,440
manufacture enough of a wind streak to get people to

4644
04:18:23,440 --> 04:18:25,920
want to see Russell Goldberg, which I'm not saying it

4645
04:18:25,959 --> 04:18:26,559
didn't work, but.

4646
04:18:27,399 --> 04:18:29,200
Speaker 3: I mean I think people want to see again on

4647
04:18:29,399 --> 04:18:32,719
paper Goldberg Sid is a money match, Like I'd want

4648
04:18:32,760 --> 04:18:35,479
to see that in a pay per view agreed, no question,

4649
04:18:35,799 --> 04:18:37,399
Like you don't have to do that. I think this

4650
04:18:37,760 --> 04:18:40,280
would just be flavor for it.

4651
04:18:40,399 --> 04:18:42,360
Speaker 7: You know what would have sold the match ten times

4652
04:18:42,399 --> 04:18:44,520
bigger is if you didn't see Sid until the pay

4653
04:18:44,559 --> 04:18:47,479
per view. You announced it like two months out and

4654
04:18:47,559 --> 04:18:49,760
he maybe he said some things, but like you didn't

4655
04:18:49,760 --> 04:18:53,079
see him do anything to anybody until the great Sid

4656
04:18:53,479 --> 04:18:55,840
came into WCW, the Russell Goldberg. I think that's where

4657
04:18:55,879 --> 04:18:57,959
the money is is to see Sid.

4658
04:18:58,120 --> 04:19:00,479
Speaker 3: I mean that's for sure. If you're going to do

4659
04:19:00,520 --> 04:19:04,559
a straight match, absolutely, But if you're gonna do this, this, this,

4660
04:19:08,280 --> 04:19:11,479
you know street gimmick, it's fun to have him do

4661
04:19:11,639 --> 04:19:14,639
it week to week and kind of do this stuff.

4662
04:19:15,120 --> 04:19:17,079
I just don't think in a weird way I would

4663
04:19:17,079 --> 04:19:19,639
I wouldn't have him wrestle on pay per view against

4664
04:19:19,680 --> 04:19:23,639
like I wouldn't have him do a Crispin wa match. No, Like,

4665
04:19:23,719 --> 04:19:25,399
I don't think you should have had a legitimate match

4666
04:19:25,479 --> 04:19:29,280
on pay per view if that's what you're building towards

4667
04:19:29,440 --> 04:19:34,079
it's gonna be kind of squash mask squash mask squash match,

4668
04:19:34,120 --> 04:19:38,079
and then all these other fucking you know, these these

4669
04:19:38,120 --> 04:19:42,120
other you know, backstage segments, right and and in and

4670
04:19:42,239 --> 04:19:44,600
run ins and stuff, and just like in him saying,

4671
04:19:44,680 --> 04:19:45,559
there's another one.

4672
04:19:47,479 --> 04:19:49,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, they don't have you have to do

4673
04:19:49,239 --> 04:19:50,920
if you want to do that, I'm arguing to not

4674
04:19:51,000 --> 04:19:52,799
even do the winning street thing. But if you're going

4675
04:19:52,879 --> 04:19:54,159
to do it, of course, I know you got to

4676
04:19:54,200 --> 04:19:54,319
do it.

4677
04:19:54,799 --> 04:19:54,959
Speaker 8: I know.

4678
04:19:55,479 --> 04:19:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean yes, if you, like I said,

4679
04:19:57,280 --> 04:19:58,920
if you're gonna go for the straight match, you agree,

4680
04:19:59,040 --> 04:20:01,239
Like you don't even need to have have him do

4681
04:20:01,319 --> 04:20:04,399
some fucking vignettes like have him, you know, have him

4682
04:20:04,440 --> 04:20:05,799
be all over the like, have him go to all

4683
04:20:05,879 --> 04:20:08,479
Goldberg's fucking places, like have him go to the Falcons

4684
04:20:08,600 --> 04:20:11,159
or whatever, the talk of the locker room, and maybe

4685
04:20:11,200 --> 04:20:14,920
he fucking destroys the locker room, Goldberg's old locker There

4686
04:20:14,959 --> 04:20:16,000
was the Falcons, right, he played for the.

4687
04:20:15,959 --> 04:20:19,079
Speaker 7: Falcons, Yeah, very briefly. Yeah, yeah, so you know, but

4688
04:20:19,159 --> 04:20:20,120
that'd be that'd be cool.

4689
04:20:20,719 --> 04:20:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with it. I'm with it.

4690
04:20:23,079 --> 04:20:25,799
Speaker 7: So they lock up and Sid absolutely heats Ben wah

4691
04:20:25,879 --> 04:20:26,600
off the lock up.

4692
04:20:26,680 --> 04:20:27,920
Speaker 3: Oh he fucking does.

4693
04:20:28,079 --> 04:20:29,959
Speaker 7: I don't know what he means, just to throw something

4694
04:20:30,200 --> 04:20:30,879
across the room.

4695
04:20:31,000 --> 04:20:32,639
Speaker 3: Basically, that doesn't make sense.

4696
04:20:32,719 --> 04:20:35,440
Speaker 7: So Sid charges and runs in to stop talking.

4697
04:20:35,239 --> 04:20:39,319
Speaker 3: This fucking gen Z ship. I don't I don't follow

4698
04:20:39,319 --> 04:20:40,959
that language. Goldberg champ.

4699
04:20:41,040 --> 04:20:42,959
Speaker 7: I listened to it every fucking day. I don't follow it.

4700
04:20:43,000 --> 04:20:46,040
Then goes for a cross bodies the Goldberg chance breaking

4701
04:20:46,360 --> 04:20:48,159
Ben Wall goes for the cross body, gets caught. Ben

4702
04:20:48,200 --> 04:20:50,879
Wace dropped back in here Germans. Sid goes up.

4703
04:20:51,040 --> 04:20:55,920
Speaker 3: That does Okay, he didn't he does? That was really impressive.

4704
04:20:56,920 --> 04:20:58,680
He didn't have some words of wisdom for us.

4705
04:21:00,079 --> 04:21:02,479
Speaker 16: The size of the fighting dog, the size of the dog.

4706
04:21:04,000 --> 04:21:04,440
Speaker 9: In the fight.

4707
04:21:05,479 --> 04:21:06,440
Speaker 16: It's just a big dog.

4708
04:21:07,520 --> 04:21:10,440
Speaker 2: He's the biggest dog in the box. And that's a hetonism,

4709
04:21:12,520 --> 04:21:13,079
a freight.

4710
04:21:16,120 --> 04:21:17,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, he still had it even in ninety nine.

4711
04:21:17,879 --> 04:21:19,719
Speaker 3: Yep, yep and flashes.

4712
04:21:20,319 --> 04:21:22,600
Speaker 7: Sid took the German well Ben Water the crucifix, but

4713
04:21:22,639 --> 04:21:24,479
Sid jumps back and squashes him in a simmom and

4714
04:21:24,520 --> 04:21:26,319
drop and then puts the cobra clutch on. Yes, Sid

4715
04:21:26,399 --> 04:21:29,239
was trying to make the cobra clutch a thing, and

4716
04:21:29,360 --> 04:21:31,239
from that position he lifts and dumps Ben Wall like

4717
04:21:31,280 --> 04:21:34,799
he turned it into a slam guy. I will say,

4718
04:21:34,879 --> 04:21:37,120
guys like Chris ben Wah made Sid look like Sid.

4719
04:21:37,239 --> 04:21:37,840
Do you know what I mean?

4720
04:21:38,040 --> 04:21:40,120
Speaker 3: Of course, of course, I mean that's that's that's the

4721
04:21:40,239 --> 04:21:43,719
only way it works. You need guys like Chris Benoit

4722
04:21:44,040 --> 04:21:48,200
who who's who know how to make other guys look

4723
04:21:48,280 --> 04:21:48,879
fantastic and.

4724
04:21:48,920 --> 04:21:50,120
Speaker 7: Go for the ride on those bumps.

4725
04:21:50,399 --> 04:21:54,360
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, like they shot out of it. You know, ultimately,

4726
04:21:54,760 --> 04:21:57,680
is that the downfall of a Chris ben Wah.

4727
04:21:57,920 --> 04:22:02,639
Speaker 7: Maybe Ben one goes to a sunset flip and said

4728
04:22:02,719 --> 04:22:04,760
drops down onto his shoulders because he's such a worker.

4729
04:22:05,680 --> 04:22:06,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ben want.

4730
04:22:06,559 --> 04:22:09,159
Speaker 7: Missus a diving headbutt, and that allows Hid to just

4731
04:22:09,159 --> 04:22:11,520
scop him up power bomb in the hell and win

4732
04:22:11,600 --> 04:22:13,440
the US title at Fall Brawl ninety nine.

4733
04:22:14,200 --> 04:22:15,639
Speaker 3: Yep, and he goes eighty and Oh.

4734
04:22:15,799 --> 04:22:18,879
Speaker 7: Looks into the camera and says, it's all mine. I'm

4735
04:22:18,879 --> 04:22:21,079
gonna go back to the studio for thoughts on Bill Goldberg.

4736
04:22:21,959 --> 04:22:27,200
Speaker 12: Bill Goldberg, I believe the most underestimated thing about this

4737
04:22:27,440 --> 04:22:28,799
man is his love.

4738
04:22:28,760 --> 04:22:33,319
Speaker 8: For the people. It's sickening.

4739
04:22:34,079 --> 04:22:43,319
Speaker 24: I've been watching you, said, brother, I've been watching you

4740
04:22:43,479 --> 04:22:46,000
come out here, Henreek Havoc.

4741
04:22:46,360 --> 04:22:53,040
Speaker 4: Yes, I admire your strength, but one thing I will

4742
04:22:53,159 --> 04:22:53,840
not stand for.

4743
04:22:54,280 --> 04:22:55,040
Speaker 3: It's your mouth.

4744
04:22:56,280 --> 04:23:04,440
Speaker 12: We're both entiens, competitors. We both have the same wants.

4745
04:23:06,079 --> 04:23:08,959
We both want to make the big money. We both

4746
04:23:09,040 --> 04:23:14,200
want to be main event. We want to stand down.

4747
04:23:15,920 --> 04:23:18,360
We don't want to have no comparisons.

4748
04:23:23,719 --> 04:23:30,920
Speaker 3: The sounds like a fucking child, Sure does a fucking child. Oh,

4749
04:23:30,920 --> 04:23:34,959
we're getting to where we need to go. Yep, Goldberg

4750
04:23:35,079 --> 04:23:38,840
versus Sid. The whole pretense, the whole reason, and a

4751
04:23:38,920 --> 04:23:41,440
lot of ways that Sid was brought into w CW

4752
04:23:41,799 --> 04:23:44,120
was to have a match with Goldberg. And we're getting

4753
04:23:44,159 --> 04:23:46,399
there at the tail end of this tape, and we

4754
04:23:46,559 --> 04:23:50,000
ride out with his final thoughts, if you.

4755
04:23:50,000 --> 04:23:52,879
Speaker 12: Want to be on top, it's a big workload. He

4756
04:23:52,959 --> 04:23:56,840
goes with that, And I was thinking about that last time.

4757
04:23:56,959 --> 04:23:59,760
So I was driving into here, I said, ma'am so

4758
04:24:00,079 --> 04:24:01,280
tired and getting into my hotel.

4759
04:24:01,319 --> 04:24:03,520
Speaker 8: It's four o'clock. You guys want to hear at twelve

4760
04:24:04,799 --> 04:24:07,280
and hit me just like that. Ma're like, I shot

4761
04:24:07,399 --> 04:24:15,079
right here like a light where all our complaints left.

4762
04:24:16,079 --> 04:24:16,920
Because this is well.

4763
04:24:16,920 --> 04:24:20,959
Speaker 12: I love, I love all the duties that come with

4764
04:24:21,959 --> 04:24:25,799
being successful, and I like to be able to do

4765
04:24:25,959 --> 04:24:27,000
these duties.

4766
04:24:27,200 --> 04:24:28,200
Speaker 8: To the best I can do.

4767
04:24:28,840 --> 04:24:31,159
Speaker 12: But when we walk out of here today, you guys

4768
04:24:31,200 --> 04:24:34,559
will say, hey, this was pretty cool sitting here talking

4769
04:24:34,600 --> 04:24:35,079
to this guy.

4770
04:24:36,399 --> 04:24:38,520
Speaker 7: And so we're on the collision course with the big opponent.

4771
04:24:38,760 --> 04:24:41,799
But for SID and World Championship Wrestling, the biggest opponent

4772
04:24:42,479 --> 04:24:47,879
would be still to come. Announcement as a TJ

4773
04:24:48,040 --> 04:24:51,840
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