Speaker 1: I'd like to welcome Carl and Jeff to the show.
Speaker 1: You may recognize them from episode one four, I believe,
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, a couple of Louisiana bigfoot hunters
Speaker 1: back on the show to talk about an upcoming event. Guys,
Speaker 1: it's a convention season, conference season again. How's it going.
Speaker 2: Going? Great? Man?
Speaker 1: How you doing doing all right? Man? Good to talk
Speaker 1: to you guys again. It's been a while, it has it?
Speaker 2: Has it has that there definitely definitely got got. I
Speaker 2: got a lot of good.
Speaker 3: Things coming up and a couple of stories to talk
Speaker 3: about as well.
Speaker 1: Awesome, So let's dial it back to last year. You
Speaker 1: guys were on here telling some stories, talking about some
Speaker 1: of the things you've experienced and about your upcoming Do
Speaker 1: you call it a conference or a convention.
Speaker 2: Week? Festival?
Speaker 1: Festival? Okay, even better? How did it go? How did
Speaker 1: it go last year? Did you have a good turnout?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I'll start off. Yeah, we had a great turnout.
Speaker 3: We were hoping to probably get three or four hundred people.
Speaker 3: As you know, I had ordered four hundred armed bands.
Speaker 3: I was hoping for at least four hundred. Then I said,
Speaker 3: you know about how to get a few more, so
Speaker 3: I ordered I think it was another five hundred, but
Speaker 3: there was a real cheap ones, nothing wrote on them
Speaker 3: and not like that, you know, And I said, you
Speaker 3: would never use it. What happened next year? So I
Speaker 3: turned out and you know, me and j justin great.
Speaker 3: You know, we always use them, so super we did.
Speaker 2: So we got started and you yeah, yeah, we only knew.
Speaker 3: The doors opened at nine am and people started coming
Speaker 3: in immediately. Our speaker started at ten and at about
Speaker 3: nine thirty we we'd completed run out of the first
Speaker 3: four hundred bands.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were just pouring in and so I walked
Speaker 3: into the speaker room to get everything ready, and there's
Speaker 3: about nine forty five now, and the line was running
Speaker 3: all the way around the building, down the street into
Speaker 3: the parking lot where people parked waiting to get inez.
Speaker 3: So it was just blowing our mind, you know that
Speaker 3: we weren't expecting this. We were BILLI surprice, glad to
Speaker 3: have it though, very excited, very yeah.
Speaker 2: It just turned out really well.
Speaker 3: The speakers was great, so we were hoping to do
Speaker 3: it again, bigger and better. And I'll let Jeff share
Speaker 3: a little bit of his experience. He was out on
Speaker 3: the floor more than I were. I was in the
Speaker 3: speaker room. But it was wild.
Speaker 1: Look it.
Speaker 4: I ordered around three hundred T shirts hoping to sell out.
Speaker 2: Well, we sold out within three or four hours. We
Speaker 2: was gone.
Speaker 4: They was And then I order another three or four
Speaker 4: hundred and mailed all of them.
Speaker 2: Out and we still had people shirts.
Speaker 4: Look it, it had to be over. We estimated twenty
Speaker 4: two twenty three hundred people walked in there. It was unbelievable. Uh,
Speaker 4: we had people from Montana.
Speaker 2: We had people on.
Speaker 4: The East coast, the West coast actually flew down here.
Speaker 4: I drove down here just to go to our conference,
Speaker 4: to our festival in Montana.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, and it was.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 4: We are speaker for a great had a little difficulty
Speaker 4: in the on some of their presentation electrical mount mound functions.
Speaker 4: But this year we just we hired uh.
Speaker 2: A guy that's got a big screen.
Speaker 4: He hands all of our We're gonna go live so
Speaker 4: you can go on on our Facebook page, uh Nacas,
Speaker 4: Louisiana Bigfoot Festival and you can actually watch it live.
Speaker 2: During Saturday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we threw in a meet and greet for Friday
Speaker 4: night at the at the events center.
Speaker 2: Uh, we got.
Speaker 4: Of course, you get to meet all the five speakers
Speaker 4: and then get to mingle with each other.
Speaker 2: And we got loss.
Speaker 4: A local restaurant's going to be providing the seafood, catfish, shrimp,
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: It's fifty dollars a ticket. It should be great. We've
Speaker 2: already sold a bunch of those.
Speaker 4: And our biggest issue, and mine was and costs too,
Speaker 4: was getting people inside. It was just taking look at
Speaker 4: one I think it's one o seven in the afternoon.
Speaker 4: Our last guy, the line ended at one o seven
Speaker 4: last year.
Speaker 2: That's how long it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something that a lot of people don't think
Speaker 1: about it. It takes a while to pack people into
Speaker 1: a building.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, we're gonna do like the I got with
Speaker 4: car in the event center and the police department about
Speaker 4: putting just you know, when we go to the airport,
Speaker 4: you gotta do the zigzag thing, you know what I
Speaker 4: mean with those barriers. So I think we're going to
Speaker 4: do that all the way out to the road, so
Speaker 4: you can you'll get a lot of more people at
Speaker 4: the door.
Speaker 2: We've got a prepay.
Speaker 4: Line and we've got a credit card and a cash line.
Speaker 4: We may even put a third one up if the
Speaker 4: traffic ball is up there.
Speaker 2: So if you gudys.
Speaker 4: Listen down here, we're gonna really try to get you
Speaker 4: in fast. We mow the T shirts sales to another
Speaker 4: part of the building to not create a big traffic jam,
Speaker 4: so to speak.
Speaker 2: So should go smooth this year. But we're expecting three
Speaker 2: thousand at least.
Speaker 1: Do you guys happen to know at the top of
Speaker 1: your head the population of that community?
Speaker 2: I do? I do.
Speaker 3: The city of Naketish is like seventeen thousand when college
Speaker 3: we're at college Town Northwestern State University.
Speaker 2: Demons.
Speaker 3: Uh, you're looking at probably another three to five thousand there.
Speaker 3: The parish we in, you know, they call it Louisiana Parish,
Speaker 3: the counties. I think we're around fifty two thousand in
Speaker 3: the parish. But we we're the largest parish in Louisiana,
Speaker 3: and we have the most dirt roads in the most country,
Speaker 3: so I guess. And we're almost center supposed to being
Speaker 3: center in Louisiana, so we're pulling from all sides and
Speaker 3: and so it's uh, yeah, all says it's a're we're
Speaker 3: like fifty forty fifty miles from the east Texas into
Speaker 3: the border of Texas and probably what Jeff two hours
Speaker 3: two and a half hours to month to uh Mississippi
Speaker 3: line something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's about one hundred miles one hundred and
Speaker 4: ten miles.
Speaker 2: Taken, so it's a good location.
Speaker 3: And and and and and to jump back real quick,
Speaker 3: what Jeff's some right on that meet and greet. That
Speaker 3: fifty dollars for that meat. Great covers your your meal
Speaker 3: ticket the events that night. But our regular ticket to
Speaker 3: get in the door is the same as it was
Speaker 3: last year. We kept that low.
Speaker 2: Ten dollars for adults and five for children under twelve.
Speaker 3: So people really like that they can get in the
Speaker 3: door with a family of four for you know, thirty
Speaker 3: bucks and still have plenty of money to spend with
Speaker 3: the vendors. And speaking of vendors, sixty vendors this.
Speaker 1: Year, sixty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, our main goal is for them to spend money
Speaker 4: at with our vendors. That's our goal is cheap at
Speaker 4: the front door, and they can spend their money inside
Speaker 4: with our guys, with our vendors. That's what we want
Speaker 4: to and that worked out pretty good last year.
Speaker 1: I know that I've talked to a few people that
Speaker 1: attended last year's festival, and everybody loved it. Everybody had
Speaker 1: a good time that I spoke to. You, guys are
Speaker 1: doing an awesome job at throwing this thing.
Speaker 3: Well, we we appreciate that, Matt. Last year, Uh, it
Speaker 3: was in April last year we decided to do this
Speaker 3: and uh so we had a little time to prepare
Speaker 3: and little did we know how fast it comes for
Speaker 3: the next year, and we got more speakers and uh
Speaker 3: we got speakers from the west coast all the way
Speaker 3: to the east coast. I'll let Jeff name the speakers
Speaker 3: off and we're very excited about those. And a lot
Speaker 3: of these people that's listening will probably know who they are.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure you will, Matt, Jeff, you want to
Speaker 3: you want to give the list away?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got Eli Watson with small Town Monsters. I've
Speaker 4: done a lot of production with Seth Reid Love and
Speaker 4: Courtney and them with small Town Monsters.
Speaker 2: Uh. We got tied Heats out of Arkansas.
Speaker 4: Another guy's been around, a lot of books, a lot
Speaker 4: of movies, a lot of documents. Uh, terry stuff. Uh,
Speaker 4: You've got Amy Amy Boo Boo is with the Zoo
Speaker 4: Project and also attached to the Olympic Project out in
Speaker 4: Washington State. And we know and we got our feature
Speaker 4: is Ron Moorehead. Uh, he's our our feature guy. I
Speaker 4: have you ever heard of Sierra Sounds.
Speaker 2: It's going to be incredible. It's going to be incredible.
Speaker 2: And we also got more that come on right at
Speaker 2: the last. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Chester Moore from Beaumont, Texas.
Speaker 2: So exciting, very excited.
Speaker 1: That is an amazing lineup. I'm a I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of everybody. You mentioned. Chester was actually on the show
Speaker 1: not too long ago. He's been around. Yeah, he's been
Speaker 1: around for probably longer than I have. And then of course,
Speaker 1: you know, Todd is a staple in the community. He's
Speaker 1: spoken at so many conferences, been in so many documentaries.
Speaker 1: Ron Moorehead absolute legend amy. I can't speak highly enough
Speaker 1: of her. She's an amazing person, does a tremendous amount
Speaker 1: for the Bigfoot world and is very humble about it.
Speaker 1: And then Eli, Yeah, Eli is someone that I want
Speaker 1: to have on this show. I just need to reach
Speaker 1: out to him, hopefully he'll come on. I've been wanting
Speaker 1: to pick his hear for a while. He's an awesome guy.
Speaker 4: You know, we had Shane Carson from the Olympic Project.
Speaker 4: What's gonna come but family issues? So he said, look,
Speaker 4: he called and said, dude, I got Pat and I said, dude,
Speaker 4: I understand. We there's no problem. So we'll have We
Speaker 4: probably get him next year. We're looking at Ronnie LeBlanc
Speaker 4: for next year. So if anybody's listened that would like
Speaker 4: to be a speaker at our event next year, please
Speaker 4: contact me or Carl and we'll throw your you know
Speaker 4: your name in the hat. And like Carl said, it
Speaker 4: get it gets here before we know it. I mean
Speaker 4: I've been working on it, and so is Carl since
Speaker 4: the day we left last year. By thirty days, I
Speaker 4: was already, you know, talking and getting the vendors lined
Speaker 4: up for this year. And last year's vendors actually paid
Speaker 4: that Saturday's look, and everybody made money, man, everybody, all
Speaker 4: my vendors made they made money. They just made so
Speaker 4: much money was crazy. And they come to me and said,
Speaker 4: can we pay for next year up front? I said sure,
Speaker 4: So a lot of them paid their fee for next year,
Speaker 4: which is one hundred and fifty dollars. Anybody wants to
Speaker 4: pull a table up it's one hundred and a half
Speaker 4: for a ten by ten area.
Speaker 1: That's a good size.
Speaker 2: Yesized days that Tristan's free.
Speaker 4: Table and two chairs or can bring whatever you want
Speaker 4: to put in that ten by ten It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's worked out pretty good this year.
Speaker 4: We actually I've been turning away vendors from last week.
Speaker 4: I just I just don't have room for them. So
Speaker 4: we're excited. It's gonna be a blast.
Speaker 1: Now, did you guys get any leads from last year's festival?
Speaker 2: We did, We did.
Speaker 3: There was a young lady that I knew her previously,
Speaker 3: and I knew there was some activity around their property
Speaker 3: goes back many, many decades, and that's one of the
Speaker 3: stories I was want to share with you tonight. She
Speaker 3: had called me and confided in me something that was
Speaker 3: going on. And I won't give her name for her
Speaker 3: own for own reason, but if you got a minute,
Speaker 3: I'd be glad to share the story that she shared
Speaker 3: with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: Well, it actually started when she was a child, and
Speaker 3: she lives right on the edge of the Casanchi National Forest.
Speaker 3: Their property pretty much backs up to it, and when
Speaker 3: she was a child, they had a cabin and her
Speaker 3: dad would tell her when she wrote her bike down
Speaker 3: that dirt road, don't don't right after dark because of
Speaker 3: the Bookers.
Speaker 2: And she never really thought much about it.
Speaker 3: And as she got older, you know, started asking about that.
Speaker 3: He explained what the Bookers were, and he had seen
Speaker 3: them several times on their property and their dirt road
Speaker 3: was probably about a half a mile to a mile
Speaker 3: alone back into the woods. And so anyway, as time
Speaker 3: went on, several people in that area had encountered and
Speaker 3: it wasn't something that people call about. And I'm sure
Speaker 3: you're aware of that, Matt piece. Some people just will
Speaker 3: not talk about this subject, right And uh, anyway, I
Speaker 3: had heard about stuff like that down in that area,
Speaker 3: and that Doneloaded investigation never really got involved too much
Speaker 3: down there is It was more hush hushed. But she
Speaker 3: called me several months back, well, I say several months
Speaker 3: about two months ago actually, and uh, she said, Carl,
Speaker 3: I've got some I need to talk about, you know,
Speaker 3: And I said, okay. She said I had an incident
Speaker 3: last and I said, well, if you don't mind to
Speaker 3: share that with me, and she did, and she said
Speaker 3: that she got out and she started walking her dog.
Speaker 3: It was about dust dark, and well their prophi is that, uh,
Speaker 3: there's a bridge there, and that bridge is out, so
Speaker 3: there their road dead ends and they're right at the
Speaker 3: end by the bridge, and the cabin I spoke about
Speaker 3: earlier is probably about a mile and a half to
Speaker 3: the woods, which has completely growed over her dad's path
Speaker 3: and everything.
Speaker 2: So that's all what he does. And she had told
Speaker 2: me that there was.
Speaker 3: A terrible, terrible smell. Bro She said, the dog noticed
Speaker 3: at first, you know how a dog will react to something.
Speaker 2: They is stiffing up.
Speaker 3: And she said, the dog stiffing up, and then she
Speaker 3: called the smell and she looked at a tree line
Speaker 3: and she could see a shadow. Really couldn't see more
Speaker 3: than the shadow, but it scared her enough that she
Speaker 3: got the dog on her back inside and her husband
Speaker 3: wasn't home, the children weren't home, kit they were there
Speaker 3: by themselves, and so she will, you know, went on
Speaker 3: the bed. She dia had a feeling. She knew what
Speaker 3: it was, but didn't think much about it, you know,
Speaker 3: because she.
Speaker 2: Grew up around that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, later that afternoon or that night, and lady got dark.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the exact time.
Speaker 3: I think she said around eleven or so. She heard
Speaker 3: something hit the side of the cargo trailer that was
Speaker 3: in their front yard. You know, one of the box
Speaker 3: cargo trailers slammed the hand against it or something that
Speaker 3: made a loud noise, and it frightened her. The dogs
Speaker 3: started barking. They've got several animals in the back started
Speaker 3: acting up, and then she heard it come up to
Speaker 3: the house and it hid on the side of the house.
Speaker 3: And she was so scared. She never had any of
Speaker 3: them violent like that that, he said. She actually got
Speaker 3: up under the bed and called her daughter, and her
Speaker 3: daughter said, Mama, you need to call the police. And
Speaker 3: she said, I don't want to talk any longer. I'm
Speaker 3: afraid it will hear me. She was that the dog.
Speaker 3: She had the dog under the bed with her, so
Speaker 3: she'd got the dog quiet. The animals outside was still
Speaker 3: making a little noise.
Speaker 2: Well, our daughter.
Speaker 3: Called nine one one and had the church department to
Speaker 3: come out there to her property. And when they arrived,
Speaker 3: you know, everything was calm. They took them probably good
Speaker 3: thirty minutes to get there. She's pretty far out and uh,
Speaker 3: they looked around, couldn't find nothing, nothing like that, so
Speaker 3: they they left and the rest of the night. Her
Speaker 3: husband showed up a little bit later and that after
Speaker 3: Nina and uh that night and it was fine when
Speaker 3: she called me the next day. So the following day,
Speaker 3: me and a couple of guys from our group went
Speaker 3: down there, and uh, we could see where the impressions
Speaker 3: by the cargo trailer. The grass was tall. There had
Speaker 3: been mode yet where something had pressed down on that.
Speaker 3: And on the side of the cargo trailer there wasn't
Speaker 3: a dent.
Speaker 2: You know how.
Speaker 3: A flat surface will get like a dust cover over it,
Speaker 3: you know, just setting well, you could see like we
Speaker 3: looked like fingernail marks like the drug his finger nails
Speaker 3: down the side of the cargo trailer and left a
Speaker 3: little white lines, you know, digging through the little and uh,
Speaker 3: upside our house, the ground was pressed down there. It
Speaker 3: was all grassy, sudden that it there was no tracks.
Speaker 3: So that's that's really verified what she was saying. Something
Speaker 3: wasn't outside and she thinks it it was one of
Speaker 3: these creatures which.
Speaker 2: They grew up calling the boogers down there.
Speaker 3: And Uh, anyway, so me and the guys decided to
Speaker 3: go out there at night and we went out there
Speaker 3: and set up some game cams and stayed out there
Speaker 3: probably till midnight. We didn't get no activity, didn't have
Speaker 3: anything happened. We called it a night. I left the
Speaker 3: cams out for about a week or two. Nothing popped up.
Speaker 3: And till recently, which fast forward now like say two months,
Speaker 3: she had called me and she said I had the
Speaker 3: strangest thing happen to me. I said, what was it?
Speaker 3: And she told me, she said, we went outside and
Speaker 3: our ghosts and they have four goats and they have
Speaker 3: some you know, some dogs. And this part was really
Speaker 3: really strange. Are into me. But somehow the goats ended
Speaker 3: up inside the dog pins, and the dog pins like
Speaker 3: a you know, ten by twelve twelve to twelve dog cans,
Speaker 3: and she said they didn't put them in there anyway.
Speaker 3: She let the coats out and got to looking around
Speaker 3: and back by their barn, which is probably about forty
Speaker 3: or fifty yards behind their house, there were some small tracks.
Speaker 2: They weren't really defined.
Speaker 3: We we cast what we could men men Mark did
Speaker 3: and it was.
Speaker 2: You really couldn't make it out.
Speaker 3: It sort of looked like a small print me and
Speaker 3: it didn't show any claws, but we weren't really sure
Speaker 3: what it was.
Speaker 2: Jeff.
Speaker 3: Jeff's got an idea. He's thinking maybe bear. But and
Speaker 3: that may be the issue. But none of the animals
Speaker 3: were disturb That was our big issue. They've got, like
Speaker 3: I say, they've got some goats, and they've got a
Speaker 3: pig and you know, just general farm animals, you know, nothing,
Speaker 3: And none of them was disturbed. But there were several little,
Speaker 3: small looking tracks, and some of them you can make
Speaker 3: out the toe prints. So I'm thinking if it was
Speaker 3: a big foot, maybe it was just some small ones
Speaker 3: coming there to you know, mess with animals. I don't know,
Speaker 3: But nothing else has happened since then. That's been We
Speaker 3: went down a couple of weeks ago and got those.
Speaker 1: Did you happen to check on top of the trailer?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: We did not.
Speaker 3: I never even thought about that, but that would have
Speaker 3: that would have made a lot of sense, But we
Speaker 3: did not. Uh, it was just a normal six foot
Speaker 3: cargo trailer. But I did not get I wish I
Speaker 3: had now that you mentioned that.
Speaker 1: And and do you happen to know what her husband
Speaker 1: does for work?
Speaker 3: Well, he is he is actually self employed. Oh he's
Speaker 3: he's not home all all the time. But he did
Speaker 3: get in late that night. I'm not sure what he
Speaker 3: was doing. I know he has his own little business
Speaker 3: doing something other. And but she was there by herself,
Speaker 3: and I explained to her, which I think she already knew,
Speaker 3: is that, you know a lot of times these creatures
Speaker 3: will come around a house when there's no one home
Speaker 3: but the female.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But but she did see the shadow out by the
Speaker 3: edge of whids and she had seen that before, but
Speaker 3: as the little girl growing up and that she'd become
Speaker 3: a young woman. You know, she actually had a siding before,
Speaker 3: and many people in that community had. But like she
Speaker 3: told me, everybody's hush hush. They don't want nobody, i think,
Speaker 3: ridiculing them or boking around, poking around exactly, looking around
Speaker 3: down there.
Speaker 2: So it's pretty tight lip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for people who who you know a lot of
Speaker 1: people just listen to these podcasts and stuff, and they
Speaker 1: question some of the reasons, why on earth would somebody
Speaker 1: keep their mouth shut. Let me tell you something. My
Speaker 1: aunt used to have a place up in Missouri outside
Speaker 1: of a little town called Weston, and she didn't really
Speaker 1: she wasn't necessarily against the idea of bigfoot existing but
Speaker 1: she wasn't fully on board. You know. She would ask
Speaker 1: me questions about it and stuff, and I've talked to
Speaker 1: her a little bit about her a little bit over
Speaker 1: the years. I don't think I've ever just told the
Speaker 1: full story. But at one point she called me and
Speaker 1: started asking me a bunch of Bigfoot questions, and I
Speaker 1: was like, well, yeah, they do this and they do that.
Speaker 1: You know, why, what's going on? Well, she thought her
Speaker 1: property might be haunted. It was a really old farmstead
Speaker 1: and she had some weird stuff going on. But everything
Speaker 1: she was describing to me sounded like Bigfoot stuff. Now,
Speaker 1: I never went public with her story at that point
Speaker 1: in time or anything like that. She wasn't in the
Speaker 1: bigfoot world at all. She wasn't even on the internet,
Speaker 1: I don't think. Well. She ended up calling me back
Speaker 1: a couple months after that to ask me if I
Speaker 1: knew these two guys that showed up on her property
Speaker 1: knocking on the door wanting access to it because they
Speaker 1: wanted to do some Bigfoot research on her property. And
Speaker 1: these two guys, I'm not going to say who they were,
Speaker 1: but they were active in the Bigfoot community on the
Speaker 1: internet and everything. They were part of an organization up there,
Speaker 1: and they had just been in the area scouting for
Speaker 1: new areas to go and ended up hearing about her
Speaker 1: property or whatever. And there was I think, like a
Speaker 1: neighbor that they were investigating their property or whatever. So
Speaker 1: whenever people do tell these stories, it's not far fetched
Speaker 1: at all for them to be concerned about people coming
Speaker 1: and poking around, because it happens all the time. My
Speaker 1: aunt didn't even go public with her story, and it
Speaker 1: happened to her. And I've heard countless stories, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys have heard stories too about people showing
Speaker 1: up wanting to go on somebody's property or something because
Speaker 1: they heard that they got boogers on their property.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, many times, many times.
Speaker 3: You know, something you just said there reminded me of
Speaker 3: something happened when I was a kid. I hadn't even
Speaker 3: thought about it till you said haunted. And my mom
Speaker 3: told me this story because I heard of telling my dad.
Speaker 3: I couldn't have been more than I don't know, five
Speaker 3: or six, and I heard it many times. As I
Speaker 3: got older, they'd retell it. My dad built a house
Speaker 3: we lived in in a small community of Florine, Louisiana,
Speaker 3: which is about forty miles south of where I'm at
Speaker 3: now in Naketish, And this was late fifties, probably fifty
Speaker 3: five fifty six. They built that, and my grandmother's house
Speaker 3: was about a half a mile through the woods, nothing
Speaker 3: but a trail.
Speaker 2: At that time to my grandma's house.
Speaker 3: And they would sit on the front porch as many
Speaker 3: people did back in those days, in the evening time,
Speaker 3: and my dad had lumber stacked up where he was
Speaker 3: building the house, and they would hear popping, slap slap
Speaker 3: every once in a while. Well, my grandpa told my
Speaker 3: dad said, I think somebody's trying to steal your We
Speaker 3: need to go up there. And they went up there,
Speaker 3: couldn't find nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That happened a couple of times. Never didn't find nothing.
Speaker 3: Never even thought about any kind of tracks or nothing
Speaker 3: like that. I didn't see nothing. Anyway, the house got
Speaker 3: built and I was I think this is before I
Speaker 3: started school, and I was born in sixty four, so
Speaker 3: I had to be no more four or five back then.
Speaker 3: But anyway, my mom, I remember her telling my dad
Speaker 3: this story that she said, I think this house we
Speaker 3: built is haunted. She said, I know, which was my
Speaker 3: grandfather gave him the land. She said, but I think
Speaker 3: this house is haunted. He said, why do you say that,
Speaker 3: She said, because when I'm here with Carl, I hear
Speaker 3: something running up down the roof of this house. And
Speaker 3: the house was probably we were probably fifty yards to
Speaker 3: the woods in the wooded area, you know, lived the
Speaker 3: way out of the country down a dirt road.
Speaker 2: And she said, I think it's haunted.
Speaker 3: Anyway, they never even had an inkling of about a Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: I remember stories of people saying about an old wild
Speaker 3: man lived in the woods, which you know, some people
Speaker 3: called bigfoot. That back then, I thought that they were
Speaker 3: talking about some homeless man living in the woods. So
Speaker 3: I'm assuming, and you know, I may be wrong, but
Speaker 3: they never seen it. But my mom, to the day
Speaker 3: she passed, would tell you that story that something would
Speaker 3: run up down the roof when Daddy's at work. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I only do it when she was there by herself.
Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah. I think that happens a lot. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people just automatically go to one thing
Speaker 1: that they think, you know, might exist, and that's usually
Speaker 1: the places. But the stuff is happening outside. It's to
Speaker 1: the inside.
Speaker 2: That's right. That's right.
Speaker 1: Jeff, I wanted to ask you, do you think sightings
Speaker 1: and encounters are kind of ramping up? Do you get
Speaker 1: more reports now than you used to?
Speaker 4: You know, I we watched the internet and you know,
Speaker 4: YouTube and stuff. You it seems like that everybody's kind
Speaker 4: of easing up since it's coming out, So everybody's kind
Speaker 4: of wanting to share this story.
Speaker 2: Not for the money deal or the thing, but.
Speaker 4: You know, you just keep stuff batted up inside and
Speaker 4: you want to tell people. You just don't want to
Speaker 4: act stupid or be called an idiot or whatever. But
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of easing up, Carl. I mean,
Speaker 4: we hear a lot of stuff that we wouldn't hear,
Speaker 4: and Internet is just full of it. I mean it's everywhere.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it is d of getting And look,
Speaker 4: everybody's got bigfoot merch. Hobby lobby where we live at
Speaker 4: has got a ton of bigfoot stuff.
Speaker 2: I went in.
Speaker 4: Tractor Supply. They got bigfoot t shirts. And that's that
Speaker 4: tells you right there that everybody's kind of, you know,
Speaker 4: getting on the manwagon, so to speak. That uh, and
Speaker 4: I know it's money bigfoots money.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I tell yeah, it's kind of easing up.
Speaker 2: People's kind of saying, Okay, I want to tell on
Speaker 2: the story now.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you're exactly right. It is become a
Speaker 3: a money thing, you know, from the beef jerky commercials
Speaker 3: to the all kinds of stuff. But but back for
Speaker 3: what you said about encounters, I think yes, there are
Speaker 3: more encounters, uh that people are having only because a
Speaker 3: lot of people are moving out of the cities into
Speaker 3: the country side and uh, there's them. Here's a big
Speaker 3: timber industry. I'm sure it is where you're at as well.
Speaker 3: But we have a big timber industry, you know. And
Speaker 3: and I think it's no different than than deer or
Speaker 3: any other animal. I believe is that you know, when
Speaker 3: something's being done in their area, they have to move.
Speaker 3: And then when they move, I think it is normally
Speaker 3: when they get signed.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: There was another report we had back in December of
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 2: I forty nine runs through the the.
Speaker 3: State of Louisiana from north to south and a naked
Speaker 3: Ish is exit one for those that are coming to
Speaker 3: the festival.
Speaker 2: But anyway, two exits up.
Speaker 3: There was a couple coming I want to say, from Shreveport,
Speaker 3: and they were taking a cut off road going to
Speaker 3: a small community over down Marthaville is a wally area somewhere.
Speaker 3: And now I don't know exactly where they were going,
Speaker 3: but I know they were going to a wedding. And
Speaker 3: they took Highway four eighty seven and the ones that
Speaker 3: are here's this podcast. We know where I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: And this was told to me by another gentleman. And
Speaker 3: they took forty seven because it actually cuts off probably
Speaker 3: ten fifteen miles on the drive they were going to.
Speaker 3: And it's just a two lane black top road. And
Speaker 3: they've been on the road maybe a mile and you
Speaker 3: get into the wooded area and there's a field cross
Speaker 3: there and it goes down into a bottom they call
Speaker 3: halls break. And these people said they were coming along.
Speaker 3: It was already it already got dark or getting close
Speaker 3: to dark, heather like on and this creature ran across
Speaker 3: the road, jumped the fence down into.
Speaker 2: That bottom they call halt tray.
Speaker 3: And he was telling me about this, and we still
Speaker 3: haven't found out who the couple is. We were still
Speaker 3: trying to locate them to, you know, to hear the
Speaker 3: actual come from them, but Hall's Break has a lot
Speaker 3: of activity through the years. I was in line at Walmart,
Speaker 3: of all places, just about two weeks before this incident happened.
Speaker 3: And anyway, that guy in front of me turned around
Speaker 3: and said, aren't you one of the guys that helped
Speaker 3: put on that big Foot festival. I said yeah, he said,
Speaker 3: I was there. It was really good. He said, you
Speaker 3: got a minute. I said, yeah, sure. You know, I'm
Speaker 3: working like Walmart. You know how long that takes. Heeded.
Speaker 3: He proceeded to tell me a story about when he
Speaker 3: was I think twelve or fourteen years old. He was
Speaker 3: hunting and he said, I was hunting in Hall's Break
Speaker 3: and he said, I was down in this creek bottom
Speaker 3: whirl Honey. He said, you know, it had rained in
Speaker 3: a while, so the bottom of the creek was He said,
Speaker 3: I was walking through the bottom of that creek because
Speaker 3: you know, it's pretty clear down there. And said you
Speaker 3: could see them scrolls jumping the trees above you. And
Speaker 3: he said, I kept hearing this rustling up on the bank.
Speaker 3: He said, I didn't think much about it. Probably was
Speaker 3: a rabbit or something, or you know, maybe a squirrel
Speaker 3: on the ground. You know, he kept looking anyway as
Speaker 3: he walked along. He's like that rustling was just sort
Speaker 3: of fall along with him, but he never could see nothing.
Speaker 3: Didn't scare him, he said. He said, well, I decided
Speaker 3: to climb up on the bank and just see if
Speaker 3: I could see it. It was he was walking, so
Speaker 3: the rustling was on his right. So he climbed up
Speaker 3: on the left bank of the creek and looked across.
Speaker 3: So he climbed up on there, he said, and he said,
Speaker 3: I seen this stump sitting in there, and said it
Speaker 3: was dark brown and black, just perfectly.
Speaker 2: This is stump, said, look like a stuff.
Speaker 3: It's probably he said, you know, forty fifty feet across
Speaker 3: there be where that stump was. He said he couldn't
Speaker 3: see nothing on the ground making that noise. And he said,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, that stump stood up. And he said,
Speaker 3: he don't know how tall it was. He was a
Speaker 3: you know, twelve fourteen year old boy him six foot
Speaker 3: would have been tall. But he said it stood up
Speaker 3: and scared him so bad. He said he just took
Speaker 3: off running and he said, I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 3: Then he said, I know what it was now, I
Speaker 3: know what it is now, he said, I didn't back then,
Speaker 3: but that was you know, two incidents about Hall's Break,
Speaker 3: one more recent one. This was probably thirty years prior
Speaker 3: to that, and a couple of members of our group
Speaker 3: were out in that area just doing some research on
Speaker 3: their own one afternoon.
Speaker 2: I'll send you these pictures. Man. They come across on
Speaker 2: a logging road, a track.
Speaker 3: It's the ground was hard, but you can see just
Speaker 3: like three toes the bottle of the foot and part
Speaker 3: of the hill. And they didn't have a measuring tape,
Speaker 3: so they just laid a dollar bill down there and
Speaker 3: that thing was probably I'm guessing fifteen sixteen feet inches
Speaker 3: long at least. Where were they at they were in
Speaker 3: Hall's Break. The Hall's Break's had a few incidents. I
Speaker 3: had another story. Another gentleman told me about his nephew
Speaker 3: that had an incident seen up one of the creatures
Speaker 3: run on the edge of a hay field and he
Speaker 3: was deer, honey. This is, you know, probably fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3: So and then within the last eight months, I've had
Speaker 3: three stories about Hall's Break and they found a footprint
Speaker 3: about a month ago, so there's definitely.
Speaker 1: Something going on.
Speaker 3: We're planning to get together and go down there and
Speaker 3: check things out and see what we can come up with,
Speaker 3: do a little investigation in Hall's break.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when it cools off mat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's the key right there, when it cools off.
Speaker 2: One hundred and nine here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Mosq Mosquit is as big as birds around here.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, you know.
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people that think one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that these things are so hard to
Speaker 1: find or get evidence of is because they migrate and
Speaker 1: they move through areas that what you were just talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't think they do. I think if they don't
Speaker 1: need to leave an area, they stay put because you
Speaker 1: have areas like that that seem to have sightings for generations,
Speaker 1: not just years, but decades in the same general area.
Speaker 2: I totally agree with that.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think partially in as they say, there's no
Speaker 3: one an expert, right, I think they don't migrate, But
Speaker 3: I think they travel in circles.
Speaker 2: I really do you know, sort of like like a
Speaker 2: deer does you.
Speaker 3: Know that they'll make a diameter and they just circle
Speaker 3: around and h That's why sometimes I think you see
Speaker 3: them are getting more reports in the fall than you
Speaker 3: do in the summer or just the opposite, or in
Speaker 3: this in the spring, you know, or you know, just
Speaker 3: it depends where they're at. And that's that's my opinion.
Speaker 1: Day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually travel. Whether that's the fact, I don't know.
Speaker 2: But I'm like you, I don't believe they migrate either.
Speaker 1: Well, You've got so many areas where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they come through here every X amount of days or
Speaker 1: X amount of weeks or you know whatever, and it's
Speaker 1: just like you're saying, they're just doing a big loop.
Speaker 1: There is a place down in Texas where they were
Speaker 1: basically relocating back and forth for about a ten mile stretch,
Speaker 1: just going from one lake north to the other lake
Speaker 1: and then back south to the other lake. And it
Speaker 1: was just this cycle that they would just repeat every
Speaker 1: few months.
Speaker 3: Do you think that's all they're doing it for? Like
Speaker 3: a food source? They you know, plenished the food.
Speaker 2: One area and then they.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. Uh years ago. I don't even remember
Speaker 1: how I stumbled across it, but I stumbled across these maps.
Speaker 1: I was probably looking for topo maps, but I found
Speaker 1: these maps that are put out by the something or
Speaker 1: other department. I'm trying to remember the name of the department,
Speaker 1: but it's US government, and it's called an ecoregions map.
Speaker 1: And basically these maps have different layers, and each layer
Speaker 1: is broken down into more individual layers. So what it's
Speaker 1: looking at instead of state borders or anything like that,
Speaker 1: even topography, it's looking at regions of ecosystems. So you
Speaker 1: might have like a grasslands area and a bottom lands area.
Speaker 1: And if you took these maps and laid them over
Speaker 1: a Bigfoot sighting map, the areas that had the most
Speaker 1: reported sightings the biggest clusters. I'll just use southeastern Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: You know that whole region right there where you got
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Louisiana and Arkansas and Texas all kind of converging.
Speaker 1: It had the highest density of ecoregions different ones. And
Speaker 1: that's also the area that has the most reported sightings
Speaker 1: of Bigfoot activity in Oklahoma. I mean, it was almost perfect.
Speaker 1: And so I started thinking about that. And if you
Speaker 1: look at areas that have these different ecosystems, where one
Speaker 1: area meets another area, so it can be a river bottom,
Speaker 1: it can be a meadow going into a hill country
Speaker 1: or mountains or whatever. In those areas, you usually have
Speaker 1: signs of Bigfoot, and those areas also have different food sources,
Speaker 1: different water sources, different mineral content, And I started thinking about, well,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of makes sense if you're a larger
Speaker 1: creature like that, I would assume you would need a
Speaker 1: higher calorie intake, and it makes more sense to travel
Speaker 1: through an area instead of just like sitting in one
Speaker 1: spot and just decimating whatever food sources you've got. So
Speaker 1: you're constantly moving through these different ecoregions, so you're running
Speaker 1: across different forms of food, different places to get your
Speaker 1: water and all that, and you're not depleting any of
Speaker 1: the sources.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, if you think about that, that makes
Speaker 3: total sense with with any kind of species or in
Speaker 3: you check a cattle farmer that raises cattle, I mean,
Speaker 3: they'll they'll let them graze on one pasture and then
Speaker 3: they'll move them to another because it takes time to
Speaker 3: regenerate that that pasture, right, you know, so you would
Speaker 3: think animals would be the same way. You know, they're
Speaker 3: not going to stay and deplete their their food source
Speaker 3: completely or because if they did that, they would bet up.
Speaker 3: But I would think if they are circling to circle back,
Speaker 3: you know, so it takes time to repopulate, or you
Speaker 3: might say.
Speaker 1: That area, Well, if you're talking about you know, whatever
Speaker 1: it is. You know, let's just use blackberries for instance.
Speaker 1: Not all of them all turn ripe at once. You know,
Speaker 1: you might have some ripe ones and if you come
Speaker 1: back and a week later, you'll have more ripe ones
Speaker 1: to eat. So it might be something much more simple
Speaker 1: like that. But either way, yes, I think they just
Speaker 1: kind of circle through these territories for whatever reason. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make much sense to me to cut across country
Speaker 1: and go to some area where you have no idea.
Speaker 1: If you're going to be able to find food or
Speaker 1: water or anything else, and you're exposing yourself to being
Speaker 1: seen the.
Speaker 2: Whole time, that makes total sense. You know.
Speaker 3: It's sort of like the if y'all follow the news
Speaker 3: about that officer that was put in jail and he
Speaker 3: escaped and he went into the wilderness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, devil of the those arks.
Speaker 2: I will love those arts exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, most criminals or anybody else, if they've
Speaker 3: got transportation, they would have the hotel out of there.
Speaker 2: But he knew there was resources in those woods that
Speaker 2: he could survive on for a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so I would think animals are are
Speaker 3: the same way. They just like you said, why would
Speaker 3: they migrate across country when they know there's there's plenty
Speaker 3: of resources right here right there, you know, even though
Speaker 3: they're not escaping nothing. But you know, humans themselves just
Speaker 3: tying to avoid detection. But it's amazing to me some
Speaker 3: of the stories you hear about and read about. Uh,
Speaker 3: these animals act a lot like humans do. Yeah, a
Speaker 3: lot of people say they're very intelligent, and I think
Speaker 3: they are as well. I don't know that for a fact.
Speaker 3: But to remain this hidden for these hundreds of years
Speaker 3: or how many years they've been on this planet amongst
Speaker 3: has had a guy just yesterday I was putting out
Speaker 3: water the flyers for the festival. He said, do you
Speaker 3: believe in Bigfoot? I said, well, sure, don't you? And
Speaker 3: he said, well, I never really thought about it. I said, well,
Speaker 3: well I look at it. Thousands of reports are reported
Speaker 3: every year, and I'm sure there's that meaning that's not reported.
Speaker 3: Everybody can't be imagining something or not telling the truth.
Speaker 3: Somebody seeing something. So that's how I see it, somebody
Speaker 3: seeing something.
Speaker 1: Jeff, You guys got a what I consider a pretty
Speaker 1: broad range of belief systems whenever it comes to your
Speaker 1: speakers at the festival, which makes total sense. But where
Speaker 1: do you stand with all this? Do you think these
Speaker 1: things are just an undiscovered primate species or do you
Speaker 1: buy into the stories of mind speak and portals and
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 2: I'll let you go first on that, Jill.
Speaker 4: Well, I know Ron, I know, Ron Moorheage's gonna probably
Speaker 4: bring that up because he's in that UFO Bigfoot I think,
Speaker 4: and the orbs now.
Speaker 2: Thinking that kind of stuff. So I'm open minded.
Speaker 4: You know, they've hidden, they've been hidden from us for
Speaker 4: you know, for a thousands of years.
Speaker 2: Probably I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't not believe in it, but I don't believe
Speaker 4: in it, you know, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of in between. I'm open minded. Could it
Speaker 2: could be? It could happen. Uh, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm not a non believer and I'm not a believer.
Speaker 1: Have you had any personal experiences where something weird was
Speaker 1: going on that you just can't explain?
Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen the orbs and you know in
Speaker 4: the woods hunting. I'm a big hunter, big fisherman.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 4: Now I'm in law, was in law enforcement for twenty
Speaker 4: years or thirty years, and also in the military for
Speaker 4: over twenty years. So yeah, I've seen a lost of
Speaker 4: crazy stuff that I didn't really ponder on them.
Speaker 2: It was just you know, if or popped up a little.
Speaker 4: Light or something running around and you're looking at them
Speaker 4: like which you know, I didn't think about.
Speaker 2: It didn't across my mind. It could have been an
Speaker 2: alien in that or you know, or whatever.
Speaker 4: So you know, I don't know. I'd like to comment
Speaker 4: about the migration thing if I could. Yeah, of course, tracking,
Speaker 4: but I think it depends on where they're at. If
Speaker 4: they're in the mountains, uh, and their primary food is
Speaker 4: elk and deer, they're going to migrate to the lower areas,
Speaker 4: and then we're not talking about not a long long way,
Speaker 4: but you know, elk will travel to another state or
Speaker 4: a pretty good ways, a way to get away from
Speaker 4: the weather.
Speaker 2: So if they're primary.
Speaker 4: And it would be their prime married in the wintertime
Speaker 4: because no other plants, you know, the berries are growing,
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff, Plants are dead, so their
Speaker 4: meat source is moving. If they're gonna survive, they're gonna
Speaker 4: move with it, you know, either from the Rockies down
Speaker 4: to down New Mexico, getting lower down and getting the
Speaker 4: where they elk are at, and then going back up.
Speaker 2: I really believe that.
Speaker 4: If their main if they're in Florida and Louisiana, we
Speaker 4: really don't I guess the stuff dies here. If they're
Speaker 4: really feeding on herbs or grass or berries and that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff, I think, But I think, really think
Speaker 4: it depends on where they're actually living at. If they're
Speaker 4: in the mountains, they're gonna have to come down and
Speaker 4: go with the feed the food, and I think berries
Speaker 4: are a big part.
Speaker 2: Of it, and they're gonna go with They're gonna go.
Speaker 4: With the berries are growing, you know, if that's what
Speaker 4: their primary source is, are fish or whatever.
Speaker 1: I've heard that from a lot of guys that I'm
Speaker 1: friends with out in the Pacific Northwest about them going
Speaker 1: up and down in elevations, kind of migrating through during
Speaker 1: the year, following the food sources like that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I would agree with that totally.
Speaker 4: Another thing is do they store their food. I think
Speaker 4: they're intelligent they do. They store food. They kill enough
Speaker 4: elp to get them through the winter because it's not
Speaker 4: going to run.
Speaker 2: It's it's frozen. Are they what they? You like?
Speaker 4: The Native Americans and gatherers, and they'd grag enough food
Speaker 4: into their shelters to stay them through the winter months.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's something definitely to think about. I haven't
Speaker 1: really given that much thought over the years, come to
Speaker 1: think of it, about storing food like that. I've definitely
Speaker 1: heard weird stories about people finding bone piles and yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, some kinds of dead animals. Even. I think
Speaker 1: there was a story about some ducks being stacked up
Speaker 1: one time, and and they're always in these stacks too,
Speaker 1: which is kind of kind of strange.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, kind of like the rocks finding rocks and
Speaker 4: no where's back on top of each other. If you
Speaker 4: find an elk, are several elk in one area that's
Speaker 4: been killed, it's pretty rare. Yeah, they either the and
Speaker 4: now our bearers know it's not going to drag it.
Speaker 4: He gonna eat it right there. You may cover it
Speaker 4: up and come back, and so with the big cats.
Speaker 4: But what if the if they do kill an elk
Speaker 4: and they drag it to a certain location and they
Speaker 4: just dismember it or whatever and leave everything there and
Speaker 4: go up to their cave or wherever they're staying and
Speaker 4: hold it up. That could be a sign where you know,
Speaker 4: they're dragging their their kill area or their their procession station.
Speaker 2: I guess you could call it. Yeah, that's an idea.
Speaker 2: I never never heard anybody.
Speaker 4: Are you say anything about maybe they stored for the
Speaker 4: winter much you know, maybe I don't want to they
Speaker 4: don't want to travel, they're scared to be seen, and
Speaker 4: they can hoard their food up and get them through
Speaker 4: the winter. Why not uncle down and.
Speaker 2: Right through it.
Speaker 1: Have you guys found any of these what people call glyphs,
Speaker 1: these little stick patterns on the ground.
Speaker 2: I have, I haven't found any.
Speaker 3: I've I've come across the broken trees, the twisted you know, limbs,
Speaker 3: but never no pattern on the ground that was to me.
Speaker 2: That's i't ordinary.
Speaker 3: I've come across what some people call them eggs in
Speaker 3: the woods, but uh, you really, I don't know if
Speaker 3: that means anything, but uh, you know, you just gotta
Speaker 3: be careful there because you know, there is dead fault
Speaker 3: that will fall weird ways. But when you get three
Speaker 3: or four that's crisscrossed and weaving into each other, that's
Speaker 3: a little different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you know it is something that people bring
Speaker 1: up from time to time. It's not something that I
Speaker 1: ever even looked for or you know, or even thought
Speaker 1: to look for. I did have a couple of friends
Speaker 1: that found a few weird things, you know, that kind
Speaker 1: of fit that description over the years. But man, it's
Speaker 1: just so strange, all of it.
Speaker 3: It is goes back to what the young lady was
Speaker 3: telling me about our goats being in the dog fin.
Speaker 3: Some people thinks that may be crazy, but I've heard
Speaker 3: other stories about how they'll they'll open up a chicken
Speaker 3: pan and get one chicken out, or they may get
Speaker 3: one rabbit out and then close the gate and lock
Speaker 3: it back, you know. And so I mean, just this
Speaker 3: one gentleman talk told me about he caught him a monkey.
Speaker 3: He's seen the monkey jump over his since after he
Speaker 3: got a chicken, you know. So but you know, I
Speaker 3: think that they do some strange stuff. That's why I
Speaker 3: think they're intelligent to stay elusive fits they have all
Speaker 3: these years, you gotta have some kind of thought pattern.
Speaker 3: It's it's not like your typical animal that would you know,
Speaker 3: come up to a a chicken pen and you know,
Speaker 3: knaw through the wire. If they take time to go
Speaker 3: through the gate. There's there's some thoughts and they've seen
Speaker 3: how you open that gate, you know, talk to unlock
Speaker 3: a door or even a monkey, you know, so they
Speaker 3: I think they've observed some things and that's how they
Speaker 3: figure out how to do. That's like a gun, I think,
Speaker 3: you know, I think they don't know what a gun is,
Speaker 3: but I think they know what it makes noise and
Speaker 3: normally what it points at.
Speaker 2: It falls down once he hears the noise.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Hey, I got a question con goes
Speaker 4: what we're talking about gifting. We all think about that
Speaker 4: when you put out something and get something in return
Speaker 4: at a gifting spot.
Speaker 1: Oh Jeff, you're you're not supposed to ask me questions.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think, okay, you can ask that question.
Speaker 2: Mat Yeah, well, well check check this out.
Speaker 3: I got a cat as a cat that wandered up
Speaker 3: to the house and it never left. And uh anyway,
Speaker 3: uh talking about gifting, and this cat brought a dead
Speaker 3: squirrel up on my porch and left it.
Speaker 2: And how do I know the cat did that?
Speaker 3: Because my dog's inside and when I come outside and
Speaker 3: found the cat stays outside. When I come inside outside
Speaker 3: and found the squirrel, the cat was sitting by the
Speaker 3: squirrel like, Hey, this is what I brought you.
Speaker 2: You know, Yes, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was saying thank you for
Speaker 3: getting me out of the you know some you know,
Speaker 3: surviving feed me and stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But I've never done gifting with with these creatures at all,
Speaker 3: and I ain't said I won't, but I've never had
Speaker 3: the opportunity to do that.
Speaker 2: But I've heard a lot of people talk about doing it, yes,
Speaker 2: and have done it. It works.
Speaker 1: I have heard a lot of stories and I have
Speaker 1: heard a handful of stories about gifting where I'm on
Speaker 1: board with the idea that Bigfoot is the one that
Speaker 1: was doing it, because to me, you got to get
Speaker 1: to that point first. You can't just leave a jar
Speaker 1: peanut butter out in the woods and then come back
Speaker 1: a month later and the jars gone and say Bigfoot
Speaker 1: did it. A lot of people do, a lot of
Speaker 1: people do, right, But there are some situations where it
Speaker 1: definitely seems like to me that it was Bigfoot leaving
Speaker 1: the item or taking the item. Now, as far as
Speaker 1: gifting is concerned, the actual idea of it being a gift,
Speaker 1: I think that's something that we put on it. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe that Bigfoot sees it as a gift
Speaker 1: of some kind or anything like that. It's just how
Speaker 1: we're interpreting it with our human brains trying to explain
Speaker 1: what's going on. I don't think it's necessarily any different
Speaker 1: than them coming into camp while you're asleep and taking
Speaker 1: a loaf of bread or something. I think, especially with
Speaker 1: food items, but you know, I've heard it with other
Speaker 1: items too. I had one guy on the podcast that
Speaker 1: I don't have any explanation for this one. He said
Speaker 1: that he took pictures of things like images of Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, like photographs not of Bigfoot, but
Speaker 1: of like drawings and stuff that looked like Bigfoot, and
Speaker 1: put them in a certain order. There was multiple photos,
Speaker 1: and then buried those in the ground, very shallow at
Speaker 1: this spot where he's done gifting over the years, and
Speaker 1: that he would come back and uncover the photos and
Speaker 1: they would all be there, but they would be in
Speaker 1: a different order. Strange, yeah, strange.
Speaker 3: You would think either somebody saw him do it, or
Speaker 3: something's going on, or some people would think, you know,
Speaker 3: you're dealing with a paranormal Then as well, there's so many,
Speaker 3: you know, I guess that would sort of tie back
Speaker 3: in your question earlier. What we think these creatures are.
Speaker 3: I mean, till someone brings in a body, we never
Speaker 3: really going to know.
Speaker 2: But I think they're flesh and blood. I really do.
Speaker 3: I think they're just a flesh and blood animal that
Speaker 3: needs to survive and it's just finding a way to
Speaker 3: do that and stay elusive. You know, just like where
Speaker 3: I live, there's bear out here, and I've seen one
Speaker 3: bear in the last twenty.
Speaker 2: Five years that I've lived here.
Speaker 3: But there's people find bear tracks out of this are
Speaker 3: in these woods all the time, but they don't ever
Speaker 3: see the bear. Maybe it's you know, there's more fewer bear.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, but I think these I think
Speaker 3: they're flesh and blood.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're looking forward to.
Speaker 3: The festival, man, we are if you guys, you know,
Speaker 3: you guys want to come out of September the sixth
Speaker 3: the Naketish Events Center.
Speaker 2: The doors open at nine am.
Speaker 3: We're all day, six great speakers, over sixty vendors, lots
Speaker 3: of bigfoot stuff and we do got a a really
Speaker 3: surprised we can't talk about yet about uh and we
Speaker 3: just say a big foot's going to be there. Let's
Speaker 3: put it like that, all right, Yeah, A big one,
Speaker 3: A big one, A big one, big one.
Speaker 2: So we really can't give out a lot of details.
Speaker 3: So that's uh, that's that's gonna be a big surprise
Speaker 3: one of when when you when you walk.
Speaker 2: Through the door.
Speaker 3: So we're looking for that, and one of our local
Speaker 3: vendors is uh putting that together and they have a
Speaker 3: big production deal down here. I'll give them a plug.
Speaker 3: It's called Dark Woods and Queen. They have their Halloween
Speaker 3: things starts in Halloween and it's just amazing. It's if
Speaker 3: you like, well, like you said, you're walking through the
Speaker 3: woods and it's a Halloween tree. So if you're down
Speaker 3: in this air in that area and you want to
Speaker 3: check them out, come on down because it's exciting. But
Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, we're excited. We'd love to get you
Speaker 3: down here, man. That's an if you're ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah, someday hopefully it will happen. Is there a place
Speaker 1: where people can buy tickets online or get information online?
Speaker 3: It is an olive Jeff descrub he's been helling that
Speaker 3: more than me. Jeff, Are you still on the line
Speaker 3: with us?
Speaker 5: Yeah, go to louis Nakatish Louisiana Bigfoot Festival on Facebook
Speaker 5: and there's a page there we can buy entry feed money,
Speaker 5: you can pay to get in and you can.
Speaker 2: Buy a t shirts, posters.
Speaker 4: All our merch is on there, but you have to
Speaker 4: get You have to buy a entry ticket to get
Speaker 4: pushed on to the merchandise. So you just can't go
Speaker 4: buy merchandisee. You got to go buy a ticket to
Speaker 4: get in and then they'll go to the merchandise section
Speaker 4: so you can do a package deal, and that's what
Speaker 4: we're pushing. We've got a hotel right across from the
Speaker 4: event center that is given a little better deal if
Speaker 4: you it's got that French name Carl Hunter called Chatala
Speaker 4: or something like that.
Speaker 2: Stani.
Speaker 4: But anyway, if you go check the internet, you go,
Speaker 4: the internet will tell you about that.
Speaker 2: Also, if you.
Speaker 5: Got any questions, they can call me at three one
Speaker 5: eight five, five four eight nine nine two.
Speaker 4: You got any questions, Come on people, we ready. We
Speaker 4: want three thousand people.
Speaker 2: To show up.
Speaker 1: Well, fellas, I appreciate you coming on here and sharing
Speaker 1: a few stories and talking about the event. Sounds like
Speaker 1: it's going to be another good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we appreciate you for allowance to come home this
Speaker 4: year and last year.
Speaker 2: Of course, appreciate you absolutely.
Speaker 3: A lot of people that they heard our radio, our
Speaker 3: podcast last year we mad and they were excited about it,
Speaker 3: and a lot of them are we're excited to uh
Speaker 3: hear that we were going to be back on here
Speaker 3: again this year. So we're just excited that you would
Speaker 3: think well enough of us us to have us back
Speaker 3: and have us promote this advance.
Speaker 2: And thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Oh, of course appreciate you. If you go to the festival,
Speaker 1: will be sure to tell them Bigfoot Crossroads inn you.
Speaker 1: And if you've had your own encounter with Bigfoot or
Speaker 1: something else you can't explain, email me at Bigfoot Crossroads
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Check out the website Bigfoot Crossroads
Speaker 1: dot com. You can find links to social media, merchandise,
Speaker 1: past episodes, everything you need all in one place. And
Speaker 1: until next time, I remember there's something in the woods.