WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:15.800 What Gucci Stanley Tucci, We're back, Episode one hundred and fifteen. 2 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:20.440 It's fire Escape Cast. I'm Mike, your host is always 3 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:21.879 here with Dan, who seems upset. 4 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:24.559 I don't like that. You got to workshop that. 5 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:27.120 No, don't even workshop it, just scrap it over something 6 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.199 about last time? And what did you do anything? I 7 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:33.759 tried rhyming a bunch of actors' names with other greetings 8 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:34.600 and it doesn't work. 9 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:36.159 Real quick, do you want right now? Don't think about it? 10 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:41.119 Go what's happening? Billy crapping In? I like that better? 11 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.439 But who is he? That's our mascots? He and the 12 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:46.679 Devil Wars product? Does he have a travel show? 13 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:50.119 Billy crapping In is their new mascot? Introduced Mary. 14 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:53.240 That's Mary Kesh, whose. 15 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:55.759 Name rhymes Willy crapping In, whose. 16 00:00:55.560 --> 00:01:05.879 Name requires no inch. Howction that's bad? Like who is 17 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:10.319 Billy Crappin? He? He has tried several times to get 18 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:12.920 into Warhammer forty k painting minifigs, but he doesn't have 19 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:16.000 the space because he lives in a studio apartment and 20 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:21.359 he works at a foster care center for cats. But 21 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.719 a lot of people bring in dogs and lizards and 22 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.480 that's his main problem. He's trying to get people. He's 23 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:28.200 trying to remind people in his neighborhood that it's only 24 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:33.000 foster center for cats. But coincidentally, the neighborhood dogs and 25 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:36.480 lizards have all taken to have developed a taste for 26 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:38.359 cat food because so many of them are spending time 27 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:40.560 with this foster care. So that's one of his problems. 28 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:43.319 He also has stage sick. Now I'm not gonna get 29 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:44.040 grim about it. 30 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:47.200 My goodness. We're gonna start to go fund me for 31 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:49.840 Billy crappin In. Yeah, yeahs medical bills, yeah. 32 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:52.159 Well, direct the money to the appropriate source, don't you an? 33 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:55.680 The crapping In family will launch the go fund me 34 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:56.319 game of. 35 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:58.480 The year twenty twenty five, fire Escape will be dedicated 36 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:02.599 to the crappin In family. It'll be Billy Kravinen fundraiser 37 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:11.840 for his He has unselfish, He's got he's got internal hemorrhoids. 38 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:14.919 He does ask that all the proceeds go to the 39 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:18.680 cat center, though those lizards and dogs needs homes. 40 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:22.360 Do you think internal hemorrhoids are worse? I've had external 41 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:25.080 and they're the worst thing ever. Do you think internal 42 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:25.639 would be worse. 43 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:27.759 I think internal hemorrhoids are just tumors. 44 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:30.400 I feel like it would be the same thing, but 45 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:32.560 it's like the thing when it's on the outside, it 46 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:35.280 can rub against you know, like like cloth and shit 47 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:37.360 like that, and like if it's inside, it's all just 48 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:39.719 like wet butt stuff. Like I would think that would 49 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:41.120 be like easier, right. 50 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:43.199 Don't you think it's rubbing against your organs? 51 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.280 Yeah, but that's like wet body stuff instead of like 52 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:50.919 your underpants or like toilet paper. You know, I don't know. 53 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:55.400 I imagine it would still mess with your physiology somehow. 54 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:58.680 I mean, the external ones are absolutely terrible. 55 00:02:58.840 --> 00:02:59.120 They are. 56 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:01.800 They were way worse than I expected when I got 57 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:02.400 my first one. 58 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:05.680 Just poking drain baby. No, that's what my doctor said. 59 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.439 So I got back from New Orleans, New Orleans, where 60 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:10.800 I got my hemorrhoid, and I came back another my 61 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:11.800 butt hurts. 62 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:15.199 Doc, Wait, why do you do? What about you? You know, 63 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.360 specifically where you got it? Yeah, because I remember thinking 64 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:20.680 like cause I was. It was my dad's fiftieth and 65 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:23.080 we went to New Orleans, and I remember like near 66 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:24.759 the end of the trip thinking like, oh, this is 67 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.039 just one of those things where I've been traveling and like, 68 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:29.280 that's why my butt hurts. And it's like when I wipe, 69 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:31.199 it hurts, and so you know, you travel sometimes and 70 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:34.199 your butt gets weird. So I was describing it to 71 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:37.280 my father as you do, and he has also had hemorrhoids, 72 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:38.879 and he was like, no, it sounds like you're describing 73 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:39.400 a hemorrhoid. 74 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:40.599 And I was like, I don't know, I don't know. 75 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:41.840 He say, yeah, you got to see the doctor when 76 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.199 you get back. So I remember waiting, like I can't 77 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:45.919 wait to get back to Minnesota so I can check 78 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:48.560 all my butt at a doctor. And he did tell 79 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:50.199 me yeah. 80 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:53.039 About this, and he's like, you can either like a lancet. 81 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:55.240 Or the way he put it, I'll never forget. He's like, oh, 82 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:57.120 you can wait it out. Within a week it'll be gone. 83 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.759 Or I can take a scalpel. You know you're gonna 84 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:01.560 bite like a belt thing. And I'm going to go, 85 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:06.000 oh yeah, yeah. I think he said it involves me 86 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:09.360 taking a scalpel to your asshole. And uh, I'm just 87 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:10.759 being like, oh, I'll fucking wait. 88 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.439 And I did the first time. Doc. 89 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.639 I'm going to pull my pants down again. Yeah, fourth 90 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:24.120 time this week in front of a strange but attractive man. 91 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:27.680 I mean, look as a man who had ball surgery 92 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:30.920 when he was eighteen, I kind of don't have any 93 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:35.279 uh any. I'm fine with that. Assholes, dicks, whatever I 94 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:37.319 got to show to a doctor. It's just some you know. 95 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:39.959 Yeah, sometimes you do and they don't even want to 96 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:41.319 see it. Yeah. 97 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:43.560 Sometimes I just go in for my physical and it's 98 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.439 just like, yeah, you have a you have a sinus affection, sir. 99 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:49.279 What about my butthole? 100 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.199 I don't need to see your asshole to know that 101 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:53.560 what it means. 102 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:55.639 To my butthole when I sneeze? 103 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:58.160 Is it normal too? 104 00:04:59.360 --> 00:04:59.959 Is it normal? 105 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:02.000 Just ship every time I sneeze? 106 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:05.800 Get in there, doc, your I got. 107 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:06.720 I got no problem with that. 108 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.319 It's just the latest suppositories. 109 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:14.680 Oh yeah, I have done this suppository stuff during the 110 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:15.360 hemorrhoid times. 111 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:20.839 Yes. Oh really wait, it's easy scribespositories for hemorrhoids. It's 112 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:23.560 like when it's like a cream thing. No, I'm talking 113 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:25.360 about the big butt pills. 114 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.160 We're like not even ten minutes in, there's just so 115 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:29.639 much anal. 116 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.720 I'm like, you know, a suppository can be like it's 117 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:34.480 like a little candle you put in your buttole. 118 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:38.079 It don't like a nice little candle. 119 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:40.519 It is because it's like it's like a cream that 120 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:42.720 like you just put in there and it just like 121 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:45.319 instead of like just rubbing cream all over your asshole, 122 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:46.959 you just put the little candle up there and it 123 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:49.560 just kind of like melts from your butt warmth and 124 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.079 then just makes it all, you know, smoother or whatever. 125 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:53.759 Oh that's news to me. I thought it was a 126 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.000 big pill that you just I think you can. 127 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:59.160 I think there are I've never done pill pill butt 128 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:01.920 Stuffy Row used to put all of her drugs in 129 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:02.439 her asshole. 130 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:08.040 Well that's a that's hot. I'm not saying you can't. 131 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.759 She died, my fact, you can't. That's not how she died. 132 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:11.800 She did not. 133 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.759 It might have been I thought she killed herself with pill. 134 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:19.839 She did, but saying that she specifically killed herself hugging pills. 135 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:20.879 Or did she overdose on something? 136 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:23.439 I think it was an overdose. It was not a suicide, but. 137 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:28.000 We were they contras. We don't know it could have 138 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.120 been suicide. But leaving that aside, I don't know that 139 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:31.199 it was the bud. 140 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:35.319 Only Dan the biggest looking at but doctor an awareness 141 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:39.800 person we know is did Marilyn Monroe kill herself via 142 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:41.560 but injected pills? 143 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:45.399 It was a barbituate overdose on August fourth, nineteen sixty two. 144 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:53.319 Barbatuates control f but troll f anus. 145 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:56.879 Huh. Yeah, it's not really talking about her. 146 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:00.720 But I don't think that her a Jewish conist that 147 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:07.399 and I don't think her obituary is going to cover 148 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:11.720 whether or not she consumed the pills orally or bodily. 149 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:14.560 You have funny New York Times a bit. 150 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:16.759 I guess it doesn't say that now. It doesn't mention 151 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:17.680 anything about the butt. 152 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.560 You're just making up history. And I hope her estate 153 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:23.160 sues you for. 154 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:30.680 Talking the state of Marilyn Monroe versus record Mary. 155 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:31.639 How's your ass? 156 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.199 She did not butt chug her pills? I'm great, My 157 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:37.720 ass is great. What do you guys want to know? 158 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:43.079 I haven't seen one doctor recently. They didn't see my asshole. 159 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:44.519 What else is going on? 160 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:45.800 Oh? 161 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:51.680 I went to packs desperately trying to change subjects. Sure work. Yeah, 162 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:55.879 I went to cock Pas it always does. I went 163 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:59.600 to Packs West. I had a good time. We did 164 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:03.240 switch me up. I met a U fire Escape fan there. 165 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:09.240 I believe their name was Wizard of Video Games, and 166 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:12.680 they knew all of our catchphrases. They told me not 167 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:16.560 to kiss it. Uh, they are all the secrets. 168 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:21.519 Less talking, more dewey. Oh yeah sure. Yeah. My control 169 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:22.519 f Anus. 170 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:25.680 That's the shure we got coming out. 171 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:30.600 Yeah. Oh what was it? Uh? There is? Uh, let 172 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:31.759 me look it up. You keep talking. 173 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.440 I'm with control f Anus with an arrow. 174 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:35.919 Yeah. 175 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.279 Ask me about my control f anus. Yeah, ask me 176 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:42.279 about my We're gonna have a whole line flip flops. 177 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:44.639 There's like a tiny fire Escape logo on. 178 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:47.720 Care for Hamilton and there's a moon in wheel World. 179 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:48.559 Suck my dick. 180 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:51.399 Moon in World. 181 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:53.279 Yeah, that was my spoiler. 182 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.519 Yeah, oh you you're on the moon. You go to 183 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.279 the moon. Yeah, I go to. 184 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:00.559 The moon, and you guys were like, that's a spoiler, 185 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:01.679 and then I yelled at you. 186 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:05.720 Yeah that's right, that's right. It was fun to be 187 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:06.679 on the receiving end. 188 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:11.639 Anyway, met some fire Escape fans and gamers alike at 189 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:15.360 the meetup, and then I went to packs for one 190 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:20.360 day and saw the show floor, observed the Resident Evil 191 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:26.159 and new demo, and there was Silk Song on the floor, 192 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:30.200 but I did not play it because it's just a 193 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:33.399 demo and the game comes out for all of our listeners. 194 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:36.720 The game comes out in less than twelve hours, So 195 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:40.039 there's just no reason for me to play it at 196 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:41.879 packs and wait in that long line when I'm literally 197 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:43.120 going to play it in like a couple of days. 198 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:44.799 Okay, so you are you're going to do it without 199 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:46.200 playing the first game. I mean, I guess you don't 200 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:48.240 need the story. 201 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.360 I have to say. It is weird to say this. 202 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:53.480 It is really flattering when you recommend something hard to 203 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:55.159 your friend and they actually take you up on it, 204 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:57.120 like I'm glad you're going to try it? Oh when 205 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:00.559 I tried it? Or no, she hasn't played, so we 206 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:02.799 recommend it. I'm gonna play folk Song to Mary and 207 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:04.600 because we love. We're such big fans, and I'm glad 208 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:05.240 you have. 209 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:09.399 Charlie, been fucking sucking yourselves off all week waiting for 210 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:12.759 this opportunity to talk to me, like I don't fucking 211 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:16.960 know this game like the back of my ass, you 212 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:20.919 triple a fucking Kojima jerking ship stain. Do not get 213 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:24.399 to talk to me about fucking hollow Night. You don't 214 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:29.759 deserve to you style you talk ship about this art 215 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.600 style all the time. You deserve no listeners, no friends, 216 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:35.399 no loved ones, just wet, wet mud. 217 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:41.039 Righte brings out the best insults I've ever heard from 218 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:46.159 Mary you Kojima. Jerking ship stain. That is good, triple 219 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:48.000 a jerking ship stain. 220 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.000 My fucking games this year. I am not that this 221 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:54.080 is just an inaccurate thing you're throwing me out. 222 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:58.440 I'm completely reasonable, and it's even more they. 223 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:00.720 Have to talk to me, says the trip like games. 224 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:01.320 You saw that. 225 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:02.559 That's right, we're all. 226 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:06.919 Probably doing it out. Yep, yep, the wheelhouse. 227 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.000 Let me see my current top top ten of twenty 228 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:13.080 twenty five. Here, let's see we got toilet not in 229 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.720 order or anything. Actually loutly okay. Monster Train two is 230 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:21.600 very good. Expedition thirty three, Shinobi, Bionic Bay, Pipastrello and 231 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:22.480 the Curse Yo Yo. 232 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.080 I know in love Indies, I bet you didn't finish 233 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:28.200 Pipistrello and the Curse yoyo, you little bitch. 234 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:29.039 You're right. 235 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:32.200 I know you didn't. You're right because I know how 236 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.720 hard it is, because I've put like thirty five hours 237 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:36.879 into it, and I bet you're the kind of person 238 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:39.320 that plays an indie game and goes, that was a 239 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:42.039 great eight hours. And now I will just look at 240 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:46.200 Kojima's picture and touch myself, and I know that you 241 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.519 did not even finish Wheel World until I told you, 242 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:50.440 because you thought you did and you didn't finish it. 243 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.559 Right about that. I finished indie games all the time. 244 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:54.919 I beat you. 245 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:56.639 We'll get to it, but I beat you. 246 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:57.440 Finish time Flies. 247 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:01.039 That's not I guess not really. It's made by Sega, 248 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:05.000 but you, stupid bitch, was published by Sega. 249 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:09.240 No time Flies. I didn't be time Flies. Listen some games. 250 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.240 Look, I've been in this game a while, all right, 251 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.159 I can look at again. Andy McNamara and the chief 252 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:16.440 a game informer, used to look over her shoulders when 253 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.200 we were playing a game and he's like, I've done 254 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:20.480 this for so long, I'm gonna do my five minute review. 255 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:21.879 He'd watch it for five minutes and be like, that's 256 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:23.960 gonna get seven point five, and he was usually right. 257 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:27.679 I have noticed a men of a certain age in 258 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:29.799 the video game industry loved. Okay, I'm not I'm not 259 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:33.519 lumping you in, but Dan, I mean I am though, no, no, no, 260 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:37.200 there is a certain there is a certain tier, not 261 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:39.480 tier was the word I'm looking for you demographic of 262 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.919 men in the industry who love to brag about that 263 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:44.559 being able to see a pitch for a game and 264 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:46.120 then saying the score it's gonna get. 265 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.000 Well, it is just true that at a certain point 266 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:51.399 you do you've seen a lot, and you've seen a 267 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:53.200 lot of things that look like certain things, and you 268 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:55.360 can get a good sense of what a game's offering. 269 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:57.840 Score. So, uh, silks on. 270 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:00.639 Yeah, did you know right away that's song was going 271 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:05.399 to be an iconic classic that, by the way, would 272 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:07.320 like Mary? I thought, did you think what did you 273 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.399 think about Hollow Night when you first played it? 274 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:09.679 Yeah? 275 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:12.559 I didn't like it, but I came around because to me. 276 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:16.039 Damia actually knows good games when he sees them. Maybe 277 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:17.320 you're just not cut out for. 278 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:20.039 Breath the While when it came out, So I you know, 279 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:22.080 anybody can can be wrong about stuff. 280 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:26.840 Maybe you should find a different wild Yeah. 281 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:29.720 Something I was going to say about Mary was berating me, 282 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:32.480 who loves scenario. 283 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:37.039 Is so interested in supporting indies? Your favorite fucking games 284 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:41.000 in all of our top ten game requests are Triple 285 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:42.200 A games. 286 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:46.080 Mario Zelda Medal year, Yes, those are those are among 287 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:47.600 the best games of all time. I think that's not 288 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:49.200 a wild thing to say. 289 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:51.240 You're in the wrong starters. 290 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:52.120 The starters up. 291 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:58.720 There, get out of get out of my space. We 292 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:02.240 have to convince you to play these not really don't 293 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:03.240 start started? 294 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:06.120 No, No, I started for you. Probably I did. 295 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:08.919 I don't think you probably tweeted about it because you 296 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:11.480 want everybody to talk to you about how fucking important 297 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:15.480 you are. But I definitely played that game. First. 298 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:17.799 Why are you playing? Why are you playing Soak Song yet? 299 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:20.039 I thought Kickstarter backers got to play it early. I 300 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:21.320 thought you were a big fan. 301 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:23.320 They all get to play it at the same time, 302 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:24.679 which is but. 303 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:26.519 They got it early. I thought the whole point was 304 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:27.480 that they get it early. 305 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:29.240 No, you would know that if you were a fan. 306 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:29.759 You didn't. 307 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:31.080 You didn't contributed that tier. 308 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:34.559 I guess I don't need to. I am the biggest 309 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:38.360 contributor in the world. In with my heart. I love 310 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:41.000 that game. I will be awake tomorrow. I'm taking the 311 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:42.679 day to play it. 312 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:43.799 Yeah, who's the mark? Now? 313 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:44.799 You haven't played this game? 314 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:45.679 In your serious. 315 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:48.320 Praises, I like to consider myself the Andy McNamara of 316 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.000 indie games. And I can tell you very soon that 317 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:53.600 that game is going to be a fucking ten each ship. 318 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:56.559 You know what, it will get tense. You're right, it 319 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:58.600 will get tense. And I do believe that you will 320 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:00.200 give it a ten if if you. 321 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:02.879 It sounds like sounds like you're you're kind of being 322 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:05.240 a dan Ryker mark here like it can they could 323 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:06.759 do anything they want with Silk Song and you give 324 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:07.159 it a ten. 325 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.960 No, the pictures now of a little bug. 326 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:16.360 Guy, I think that it could turn anyway. But I 327 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:18.279 believe in my heart of hearts that this is going 328 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.000 to be a banger. But this is all gonna be 329 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.600 like bad Air by the time this air, because the 330 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:23.679 game will already be out right. 331 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:26.000 But you're that's that's what a safe bed, what a 332 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:27.840 safe bet that it's going to be the sequel to 333 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:29.159 this beloved game is going. 334 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:31.720 To be here anything ten out of ten. It's nine 335 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.559 fifty Eastern, the night before anybody's playing this game. Yeah, 336 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:36.960 I'm gonna go out a limit and say it's gonna 337 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.360 be fine, and I'll probably be wrong with this episode 338 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:41.759 goes up, But if I'm right, everybody's gonna say, look 339 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:43.960 at Mike was right, He's the Andy McNamara of the 340 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:44.639 Indie games. 341 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:49.519 Yeah, they will so playing. You're playing all the time, 342 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.519 and Dan must a loser. But Mike, if I can 343 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:55.080 just address you for a second, I feel like this 344 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:57.320 is a really good bet that you might be right 345 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.200 and I might be right. And Dan was just in 346 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:00.919 the room, probably farting. 347 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:01.919 Well. 348 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:05.559 Yeah, I think it's going to be an eight point 349 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:10.039 seventy five. That's I think I would give the first 350 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:11.440 one an eight point seventy five, and I think this 351 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:12.440 is gonna be about the same. 352 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:14.639 Same scores residevils six. 353 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:15.639 I now i've. 354 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:21.639 Tim Turry bring up more game and former personnelities from 355 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:22.480 twenty eleven. 356 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:26.559 Yeah, we're through half the staff. I'm good. I can't 357 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:29.840 talk about my boss, no, just kidding. Just in case, Berts, 358 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:33.080 if you're listening, I have nothing. Birt's knows everything. 359 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:36.000 I respect you as a man. 360 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:39.080 He knows a lot about bourbon. 361 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:44.559 Anyway, I was at Packs and I got invited to 362 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:47.960 the Peak party, which is that game I like? And 363 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:51.279 I was really excity invited to this, Dan, you haven't 364 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:51.879 heard about. 365 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:55.200 It, sucking anyone you check the timestamps. 366 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:57.320 I got the email about Peak and I immediately when 367 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.440 the Discordan, I said, we gotta stream this. This sounds great, 368 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:04.279 stream before anyone before you, Mary. 369 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:05.519 This is like some bad art. Yeah, there was like 370 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:10.759 a huge smelly wind. So I was playing. I went 371 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:13.279 to the Peak party and it was really smart. When 372 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:16.680 you walk in, they gave everybody sashes, and then there 373 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.920 was different ways to get pins by doing things at 374 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:22.599 the party, like stealing their merch or getting a drink 375 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:24.839 at the bar, and then the bartender would give you 376 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:27.079 a pin that had drink on it to add to 377 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:29.759 your sash, just like they do in the game, which 378 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:31.680 is really cute. And I think there. 379 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:34.680 Pins are like a big packs pastime too, right they are. 380 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:37.079 I mean I think these were like kind of rudimentary pins. 381 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:39.480 They weren't like those really nice coveted packs pins. But 382 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:41.079 nonetheless it was like a cute idea. 383 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:43.440 Oh no, that's what I'm saying. It seems it's on theme, 384 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:45.799 several theme, and. 385 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.319 They just kind of made an active effort to make 386 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:51.880 it a silly, cheeky thing to experience. There were eight 387 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:58.440 pins and one of them was, uh to find uh, 388 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:02.720 what's that stupid thing in uh? Oh bing bong? Uh 389 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:05.400 to find bingbong in the game. Now for people who 390 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:07.599 actually played the game and aren't just like trying to 391 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:09.880 pretend that they play the game, Bingbong is this like 392 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:14.559 green little uh fish frog that you can pick up 393 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:15.880 in the very beginning of the game and you can 394 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:18.680 actually carry him with you. Fun lore for people who 395 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:21.359 actually know indie games is that the devs used to 396 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:25.559 actually talk to players through Bingbong and like listen to them, 397 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:27.079 only if it was a public game. They weren't like 398 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:29.680 listening to your children. But like if you were live 399 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:32.839 streaming Peak and you were like hi, bing Bong, bing Bong, 400 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:35.400 as a dev would come back and be like hi, 401 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:37.720 and like actually talk to them, which is very funny 402 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:44.400 and cheeky. Anyway, the last button was find Bingo Bingbong, 403 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:47.839 and I couldn't find this little thing anywhere. I looked 404 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:50.559 all over the party, like went to all the different 405 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:52.720 corners of this space. I couldn't find it. And then 406 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:54.400 I've been at this party for like an hour, having 407 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:57.680 a couple drinks, getting a little getting little sauce, and 408 00:18:58.079 --> 00:19:00.839 the dev comes on the mic to say to everybody, 409 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:03.119 thank you so much for coming to this party. You 410 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:05.039 know this is a humble team. I think this team 411 00:19:05.079 --> 00:19:07.640 is literally a Baker's dozen. It's a very small group 412 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:10.279 and they make multiple games, so only a portion of 413 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:12.240 the team made Peak. This is a small group of 414 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:15.240 people who made this like monumental, awesome game. He's like 415 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:17.519 being super thankful, and he's like, I have a treat 416 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:21.599 for you, guys. My girlfriend handmade the cake and she's 417 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:24.359 gonna bring it out right now, and everyone's like, oh 418 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:27.240 my gosh, that's so cute, and me, with my like 419 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:31.319 drunk gamer brain, I'm like, where's this fucking last thing 420 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:33.960 so I can get my final eighth pin. And as 421 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:36.599 they walk out with this cake, it's in these like 422 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:40.839 it looks like she cake boxes, right, like really nice 423 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:44.920 rectangular boxes of cake. There's like four of them, so 424 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:47.920 it's a big ass cake. And as they walk out, 425 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:51.759 they're all kind of like being careful about opening it, 426 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:54.200 and I just say, at the top of my lungs, 427 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:57.759 oh my god, it's the cake being bong And the 428 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:03.839 good girlfriend looks at me and gives me the shush, 429 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:06.920 and I realized that I had just spoiled her cake, 430 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:08.920 and I. 431 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:10.599 Felt really bad yelled. 432 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.400 I yelled it like I would have screamed the karaoke 433 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:17.960 song that I wanted to play. Next, I was out 434 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:19.359 of my gourd and. 435 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:21.039 Someone doesn't respect Indy developers. 436 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:24.200 She handled it. She's not dead, she's a girlfriend, and 437 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:28.119 she was very very nice about it. 438 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:28.920 But I felt. 439 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:37.200 Super guilty even about women. Jesus a nice girlfriend who 440 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:39.880 made this cake and I ruined her moment, and so 441 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:43.079 I felt kind of bad about that. The cake was. 442 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:48.519 Bingbong bingbong Gate twenty five, I know, and then I left. 443 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:51.880 That sounds like someone that doesn't respect Andy devs. Meanwhile, 444 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:55.599 I have receipts over here on my birthday. Instead of 445 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:58.799 out celebrating and stuff, I'm working. June sixteenth, I got 446 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:01.839 an email at twelve pece him from Papa Gendas saying, hey, 447 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:05.720 we're announcing and launching. Here's peek, here's some codes, and 448 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:08.920 I said sold immediately streaming this going live at the 449 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:11.880 top of the hour, and the publisher says, hope you enjoy. 450 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:13.279 And I don't know if anyone's told you all this, 451 00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:16.359 but dang, you work fast. That's how fast I am 452 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:19.440 to respect Indy developers. To do with the fact that. 453 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:21.880 You'd be one of the first people streaming and guaranteed 454 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:25.000 to pull view it looks like, don't nobody know about 455 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:25.640 this yet? I was. 456 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:26.640 I was a trstmaker. 457 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:29.720 So you don't make money off of your streams. 458 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:35.880 I mean not directly, really, not exactly, not direct Mary. 459 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:38.559 You were for the company that allows him to stream. 460 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:42.960 Oh weirder here. 461 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:46.759 Yeah, we've all agreed that Mike is the only innocent 462 00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:48.279 on this entire show. 463 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:53.039 I've been replaying a game called Red Dead Redemption two. 464 00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:54.440 Mister Indy. 465 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:03.839 Law low honor, give me your one. It's a weird. 466 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:07.000 We started telling about video games too early. Mary, What 467 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:07.400 do you do? 468 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:09.319 She mentioned packs, and there's nothing. 469 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:14.599 Yeah, I did pas, I did the the nice party I. 470 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:19.640 Did nineteen ninety seven, Barbarisco from Odero. No, no, go 471 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:21.880 back and talk to yell at me about games. 472 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:26.720 Okay, let's look at Dan's chat Twitch history because it's 473 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:30.680 so important to him to support indies. Uh, Donkey Kong Bonanza, 474 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:36.440 classic indie game, the Legend of Zelda, Breath of the Wild. Uh, 475 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:38.960 just chatting, that's just you looking at your own stupid 476 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:43.400 face for like two weeks. Gears Judgment with Kayla, you. 477 00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:49.440 Bitch, I am looking recently streamed. Uh is this seat taken? 478 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:52.759 You skipped over that one weird Huh. I love that 479 00:22:53.640 --> 00:23:00.279 rage Bound Wrestling, Empyer's sunder Folk time flies. Uh jammer me, 480 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:01.720 I'm all. 481 00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:03.000 Over the place, sunder. 482 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:05.519 It wouldn't really for me. 483 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:06.680 Okay, that's the. 484 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:09.200 Second portion of the show. We're not there yet. 485 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:14.680 I didn't start this. Uh looks good. Oh yeah, no 486 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:16.880 this I'm just gonna say, why, yeah, why did you 487 00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:21.880 play Sunderfolk? It was a stream Gian bond Oh okay, gotcha. 488 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:24.920 Yeah yeah, I quit after like five minutes. 489 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:27.599 I figured, like actively like bailed on the stream. 490 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:29.119 I do think we talked about this. 491 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:30.960 We Uh. 492 00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:33.160 I guess this is the second area. But yeah, I 493 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:36.960 did do some recommendations that Mike recommended, which is cool. 494 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:38.119 Really save this. 495 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:41.119 Yeah, I never do your recommendations, and I did. 496 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:43.200 Oh, I don't ever recommend stuff to you because you 497 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.359 are already like you're you're already playing cool stuff, like 498 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:46.920 you know where the diamonds in the rough are? Dan, 499 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:48.839 I have to like kind of like help them sift through. 500 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:53.720 Oh my god, consulted. I'm the veteran here. 501 00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:55.880 You are the oldest. 502 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:03.440 That's right, I've been, I've done. Yeah, I saw we 503 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:08.200 talked about weapons. What else is new State Fair? When 504 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.759 you were here, Mike, the State Fair. I grew up 505 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:13.440 in the town where the New York State Fair is held, 506 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:17.200 and that's like one of the best. Minnesota is the biggest, biggest, 507 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:19.240 but not the best. There's a difference. See, you would 508 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:22.000 understand indie games don't have to be that big to 509 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:25.759 be the best. Sorry, how was the State Fair? That 510 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:26.200 was very good? 511 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:27.519 Honey, pizza balls. 512 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:29.880 You ate a lot of shit, didn't you. I saw 513 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:32.119 your Instagram updates and it was just like fried food 514 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:34.160 on a stick, fried food on a plate, fried food 515 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:35.880 in my hands, fried food in my face. 516 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:37.759 I mean that was like I've maybe took pictures of 517 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.440 like three of the you know, ten things I ate in. 518 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:43.839 My favorite thing that you took a photo of was 519 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:46.839 all you can drink milk for three dollars. 520 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.839 That's a fucked up thing that's always there. I've never 521 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.359 once done it. It's just seems insane to me because 522 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.400 like most of the State Fair is like in the August, 523 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:58.839 so that's just crazy in August to be drinking any milk, 524 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:01.200 much less all you can drink. But I've never touched that. 525 00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:07.000 What is the weird Yeah, what's the weird thing? Minnesota? 526 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:12.319 Soft served beer, soft served raspberry beer. Had that was delicious. 527 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:14.599 It's just actual beer and it's in the form of 528 00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.960 ice cream and uh it's it's got a cone and everything. 529 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:19.880 It was fantastic. It was great. 530 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:23.599 That sounds great beer. How come not like a grain alcohol, 531 00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:24.119 you know? 532 00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:26.519 I mean it's it's a brewery that makes it and 533 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:29.079 they like it's not even like there's no dairy or anything. 534 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:30.680 It's just straight up just I don't know how they 535 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:32.799 do the science or anything, but it's it is just 536 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:34.680 beer in cone form that you lick. 537 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:39.359 There's a there's a bar in Stockholm that does a 538 00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:42.880 sour with like soft serve into it or like a 539 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:44.799 slushy into it. It was one of the most delicious 540 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:48.839 things I've ever had. Nice. It was something Witch's hat 541 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.960 in in Swedish. Forget what the actual name was because 542 00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:57.200 I don't speak Swedish. But it was delicious. But uh yeah, 543 00:25:57.240 --> 00:25:59.680 I had a little lot of good wine recently. I 544 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:02.000 want to a place. If you're ever in New York 545 00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:03.440 and looking for a place, I might have mentioned this 546 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:05.119 when someone was looking for recommendtion. There's a place called 547 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:08.599 lay Lai in Chinatown. One of the most unique places 548 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:11.200 in New York. It's on Doyer Street, which is pedestrian only. 549 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:13.559 A lot of cool murals everywhere, and there's like two 550 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:19.759 rad cocktail bars. Speakeasy vibes but not like overwrought speakeasy trendy, 551 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:24.599 but just actual old school New York bars. But go 552 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:27.960 to Lay it's ty tiny or two table, two four 553 00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:29.799 tops in the middle and then like six two tops 554 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:32.839 around the edges. Really good wine program, but the food's amazing. 555 00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:37.839 It's Chinese style small plates, one of the most like yeah, 556 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.759 but like more Chinese like. They have a they're doing 557 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:46.880 like a beef carpascio kind of thing but with like umami, 558 00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:51.519 sesame oil and uh like fresh basil on top. It's 559 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:53.359 one we got like three extra plates after we did 560 00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:56.079 the first one. They got amazing short ribs. Their desserts 561 00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:59.400 are all incredible. They're early like pickled dishes to start 562 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.640 are phenomenal as well. Just a really cool place if 563 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:04.240 people are in New York and want to look for 564 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:06.720 their reservations can be tough, but if you put your 565 00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:09.240 name in. There's a cocktail bar called Appa Tech right 566 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:11.799 next door, and then there's another one called The River 567 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:13.400 right up the streets, so there's plenty of place to 568 00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:16.319 wait if you get like an hour wait or whatever. Nice. 569 00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:17.759 That was my weekend last weekend. 570 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:20.359 Yeah, we were kind of talking before we recorded about 571 00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:22.359 a Game of the Year this year, and you know, 572 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:24.920 currently looking at possibly doing it here in Minnesota again 573 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:27.359 and going to do our fancy Friday dinner and we'd 574 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:30.680 love to do Dario again. But then Saturday morning, hungover 575 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.079 after the show, if you guys fly out late enough, 576 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:35.680 finding more awesome burger places around here. There's this place 577 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:37.079 called Bull's Horn. I want to take you to. 578 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:38.160 It's incredible burger. 579 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:38.960 Yeah, so I. 580 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:41.759 Think fancy Friday night, then we'll do all our bullshit, 581 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:43.599 the Game of the Year stuff, and then I'll take 582 00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:44.720 you out some greasy shit. 583 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:45.400 It'd be great. 584 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:47.839 Well, we loved the greasy shit last time when we 585 00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.279 had the burger with the cheese on the molten lava 586 00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:51.480 on the endside. 587 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:53.440 Juicy lucy and then we had Lions Tap too before 588 00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:54.960 we h yeah. 589 00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:56.160 Place, Yeah, that place was good. 590 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.720 I'm becoming like a connoisseur of like the dive burger 591 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:02.079 place around here, Like you know, the Juicy Loose is 592 00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:04.160 the famous one, but like I just keep finding new 593 00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:05.720 places that have amazing burgers around. 594 00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.160 I think mom and pop diners are important. There's a 595 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.720 staple of America. And when people like actually come and 596 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.000 visit me and they're like, I want to see some 597 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:17.319 just like classic Americana culture, I'm like, I'm taking you 598 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:21.160 to Tom's the diner, where half of it is a 599 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.920 place where you can get a cheeseburger or breakfast all 600 00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:26.359 day long, and the other half is where you can 601 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:29.160 bet on horses. And that's just the type of place 602 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:33.559 this is. I like good that like slice of life space, 603 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:36.839 and I think that's like, I don't know, the things 604 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:40.240 that break my heart the most is chain restaurants that 605 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:42.160 have no heart or soul at all. 606 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.000 They have their place too, you know, like I think, 607 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.200 but I'm mainly thinking of like you know, fast food 608 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.319 places like just garbage, you know, McDonald's and Taco Bell 609 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.720 and stuff. But ultimately, the things I feel fondest of 610 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.000 are these little like mom and pop you know, like 611 00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:56.319 a lion's tap or bull's horn, these little places that 612 00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:58.240 you like when your friends are in town, your family's 613 00:28:58.240 --> 00:28:59.400 in towns, Like I got to show you this if 614 00:28:59.400 --> 00:28:59.799 you're in town. 615 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.680 But that's important, right, Like I agree like Wendy's has 616 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.119 its place, but it's like on a road trip because 617 00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:09.319 I need something. When people come and visit me, I 618 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.960 take them to the diner that I always go to 619 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:16.319 that has like the greasiest hash Browns you've ever fucking seen. 620 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.119 Yeah, yeah, I think I think that's right. I will 621 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.480 want the fast food bullshit more than most people, but 622 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.160 I would never say that, like, oh, a McDonald's quarter 623 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.160 pounder is better than these other places I like going to, 624 00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:29.720 you know, but sometimes you just want the obvious and 625 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.160 convenient and you know, deliverers and all that stuff, and uh, 626 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:34.640 there's a place for that. 627 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:40.240 I still have yet to see the Naked Gun. Oh, 628 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.279 I still have yet to see. Twenty eight years. 629 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.079 Later, I saw nad Gun. 630 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:46.720 Yeah, I saw Naked Gun in one of those cool 631 00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:49.400 theaters where they like serve you dinner and like the 632 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.279 seats are basically like really nice reclining leather chairs. I've 633 00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:57.160 never done that before. Yeah, it's kind of It was 634 00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:01.200 even like more insane. It was like a small theater 635 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:04.799 that only had I'm gonna say sixteen seats, and each 636 00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.000 seat was different, so some were like reclining leather chairs, 637 00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:11.000 some were straight up couches, but they were all very 638 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:13.359 comfy and cozy, and they all had a little table, 639 00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:17.079 and the expectation it was not just like a we 640 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.920 have dinner. The expectation is that if you will get 641 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.440 a movie there, you are supposed to order dinner. 642 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:24.880 That sounds like you know, two drink minimum, comedy clubs 643 00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:26.240 and stuff like. That's that's been crazy. 644 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.680 Yeah, And I thought it was the perfect environment for 645 00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.599 the Naked Gun because like, I got a big ass 646 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:34.720 bucket of popcorn and I got one of their like 647 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:40.839 appetizer platters, so like it had like chicken tendies, fried shrimp, 648 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.920 it had jalapeno poppers, it had fries. It even had 649 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:49.400 like a small plate of nachos in a sampler. Hello. 650 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.960 And so I'm just like snacking on eight different types 651 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:58.000 of cuisine whilst Liam Nielsen is doing the best singers 652 00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:00.599 I've ever seen. I even text a few to you 653 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:02.480 because I was like, these are such good jokes, so 654 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:03.119 many good. 655 00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:05.519 Ones, and the one you texted me like that movie 656 00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:07.640 has so many that the one you texted me, I 657 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:08.960 was like, oh fuck, I forgot about that one. That 658 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.559 one's incredible, And so overall you're high on it. 659 00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:16.359 I think it's great. I think it's it's very smart 660 00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.880 for what it's doing. And I also think around the 661 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:20.839 time where I was like, I feel like they've done 662 00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.039 these jokes enough. The movie was over. 663 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:24.799 Yeah, and it doesn't never say it's welcome. 664 00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.440 It's a perfect length. It should not have been any longer. 665 00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:31.960 I think it would have started irking me, but it 666 00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.240 new to end and then it was great. So I 667 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.799 think it's actually fantastic because it I mean, you'd. 668 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.119 Get exhausted just the sheer like machine gun pace of the. 669 00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:41.799 Joke per minute is insane. 670 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:44.440 Yes, yes, there's not like twenty or thirty seconds to 671 00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:46.079 go by without something, so like I think to go 672 00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:48.680 any past that, like hour thirty, I think you'd be 673 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.559 risking that, and they knew how to be economical with it. 674 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.119 I'm also a huge fan of physical comedy that's in 675 00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:58.680 the background. It's not ever addressed, it's not written. There's 676 00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.000 just a sign in the background that's funny, or there's 677 00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.720 a guy that's like slipping. There's there's so much visual 678 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.160 gag that you might not even realize, like you were 679 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:11.160 saying on your first watch through that you'll probably have 680 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:14.799 to watch again a lot of coffee humor that I 681 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.839 just thought was very funny throughout. 682 00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:18.000 The Coffee Bitch really really good. 683 00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.319 Yeah, very funny, like a lot of uh you know 684 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.160 cop tropes is where the jokes that they were. 685 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.039 The body cam stuff was incredible when they're like watching 686 00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:28.240 him throughout the days you fast forward a little more. 687 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:32.960 Like it's constantly getting tirea and we're back to the butt. 688 00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.720 Mike, Mike, you will like this movie a lot. 689 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.880 Sending Dan clips where someone edited fart noises into the 690 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:43.880 Michael Keaton Batman the Other Day is good. Yeah. My 691 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.480 wife walked it. Like the first thing in the morning, 692 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:47.160 I was watching in the kitchen while I made coffee. 693 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:48.680 My my wife walked in and he's like, what are 694 00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.240 you watching? Like, no, I think you wouldn't like She's like, 695 00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.880 show me and then it's just Michael Keaton like when 696 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:57.000 they turn their heads like him and icle kidman. 697 00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.440 No, she was in forever. It was a basing her 698 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.200 was yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was a good part to editing. 699 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.200 But I am curious have either of you seen Hard 700 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.680 Ticket to Hawaii. 701 00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:13.839 Like three or four times? You have, most recently like 702 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:14.559 six months ago. 703 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:19.359 Yeah, it's a low budget action movie but like cult 704 00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.799 B movie so bad. It's good, but you might have 705 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:29.319 seen comedy. Uh it's lightly but like mainly unintentioned, not intentional. 706 00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.640 Okay, yeah, okay, it's like a bunch of playmates, uh 707 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:36.960 doing like an action movie in Hawaii. Clearly like pervy 708 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:38.200 producer guy put this together. 709 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:43.160 I think it's I think it's like nice when after 710 00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.319 we've come back from our fancy dinner before, give me 711 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:48.920 your material potential watch with Jake and us. 712 00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:52.799 Incredible theme song, incredible practical effects on the snake. 713 00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.119 Yeah, yes, very You might have seen a clip on 714 00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:59.160 Instagram or something mary involving a guy on a skateboard 715 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.920 with a sex doll and Bazuka as a reaction to that. 716 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.279 Yeah, everybody knows that scene. 717 00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:12.159 Frisbee pop up. Yeah, it's very good. What what drew 718 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:12.599 you to this? 719 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:13.239 Yeah? 720 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:14.280 Why are we talking about this? 721 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:18.199 I watched it on A I had seen clips of 722 00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.079 it and I was trying to sort I had a 723 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:21.800 red eye back from l A and I'm like, I 724 00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.079 got to watch something that's like just gonna breathe new 725 00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:26.480 life into me. So my friend's like, as a joke, 726 00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.320 apparently told me to watch Hard Ticket to Hawaii and. 727 00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:32.079 I was it on like the Delta selection. 728 00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:34.599 Download it on my phone okay, and then watched it 729 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.679 like on the way back, and then went to sleep 730 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.239 on the Red Eye and then woke up and heard 731 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.960 Ticket twice. Somehow felt like I had dreamt it because 732 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.800 it's so weird in some spots and surreal, but it's 733 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:47.400 worth watching. 734 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:49.480 It's on a streamer that you can download. Like, I 735 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.320 feel like that was just like something you'd find on 736 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:52.239 YouTube or something. 737 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.960 No, it was like, uh it was I got it 738 00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:58.119 through other avenues. But yeah, the whole movie is just 739 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:01.079 on YouTube. Yeah yeah, yeah, that might have actually been it. 740 00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:04.000 But it's worth Maybe we should watch it a game 741 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.000 of the year. It's just's I found it, Uh, I 742 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:08.159 found it amusing. 743 00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:11.079 I do like when we watch movies as a group 744 00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:14.719 that someone recommends and feels really strongly about, similarly to 745 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.679 like video game recommendations, where it's like listen, even if 746 00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:20.000 I don't feel the same as you, it's something awesome 747 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.400 that we get to talk about and share together. But 748 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.199 a movie is just like solo stakes. Do you show 749 00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:27.000 me a movie and you're like, I loved this and 750 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.639 I think it's a piece of shit. That's not a problem. 751 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.559 That is like not a big sacrifice for me to 752 00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:34.119 spend two hours and be like, let's see this thing 753 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.119 that you feel so strongly about. 754 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.719 But when we're all together, I remember last time, it's 755 00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:41.199 like our time is so packed when we do Game 756 00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:43.519 of the Year that we were like, Jake hasn't seen 757 00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:44.079 Face Off. 758 00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:45.280 We got to put Face Off off. 759 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:51.239 He fell asleep, Yes, didn't the record. We know, Dan 760 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.039 picked your nose for like a minute. 761 00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:55.519 Oh right, that was the nose picking. Yeah, yeah, but 762 00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:58.239 seeing it, Jake hadn't seen it. How do you fall 763 00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.519 asleep during a movie that starts with the sniper assassination 764 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:03.039 of a child on a Merry Go Round? 765 00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:06.119 You fly from San Francisco and then drink four bottles 766 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:07.159 of wine with your friends? 767 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:09.159 Actually I guess yeah, probably. 768 00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:16.360 Who is a dwee mane sorry wee Maine. 769 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.119 It's like I knew that for like a sleeper agent, 770 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:19.719 like tweet Maine. 771 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:20.440 What does that mean? Though? 772 00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:20.719 Right? 773 00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:25.280 Just woke you up. We discovered that you could this 774 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.519 is a very very esoteric part of the conversation. We 775 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:29.519 discovered that you can you can get into the human 776 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:31.800 cannon in the circus stage and shoot yourself at the 777 00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:33.800 other person and I killed Dan like that with Dweeb. 778 00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:39.199 Flying Monkey is the best game ever made. It shot 779 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:42.360 a one Game of the Year every time we've done it. 780 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:42.960 It almost did. 781 00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:43.960 Uh. 782 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.320 Speaking of do you want to talk about video games? Sure? 783 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:53.880 Yeah, are you nodding again? Yes? I watched Slither, which 784 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:55.920 is like one of my favorite horror movies the all time, 785 00:36:56.440 --> 00:37:00.599 and oh, okay, so sorry, let's keep going. This is 786 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.960 like one of my favorite movies of all time when 787 00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.840 it comes to horror comedy, which is a genre I 788 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:10.239 feel very strongly about. And I was okay. So I 789 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:12.280 was like telling all my friends, you guys have to 790 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.880 see Slither, just like right all along this conversation tone, 791 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:17.440 and they were like, fine, let's watch it tonight together, 792 00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:18.760 and I was like, ooh, I hope they like it. 793 00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.079 And as it played, they were like, who made this anyway? 794 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.000 And I was like, some unknown. I don't think he 795 00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:26.079 made anything else. I like didn't even think about it. 796 00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:27.400 And so at the very end of the movie, when 797 00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.280 everyone was like that was great, and James gunn name 798 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:31.639 shows up, they all look at me and they go 799 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:34.000 an unknown anywhere. 800 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:34.719 I forgot. 801 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:36.800 I forgot that he fucking made this. 802 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.119 He wasn't like a huge thing back then. You know, 803 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:40.360 that was probably the person. 804 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:44.159 Who I think it's like his launch and and Mike 805 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.079 it is very good. But anyway, there's this scene in it. 806 00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:49.199 It has a lot of actors like before they really 807 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.440 pop off, and one of them is the girl from 808 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:56.679 the office, uh, Jann Fisher, Jenna Fisher, And she also 809 00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:58.519 plays a secretary in this one. 810 00:37:58.679 --> 00:37:59.079 And so. 811 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.000 They're calling her on the phone and asking her to 812 00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.760 call like the CDC or like the you know, the 813 00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:08.679 government or like somebody to get help because they're getting overrun. 814 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.360 And she nods and he goes, are you nodding? And 815 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.559 she goes, yeah, I'll get right on it. And that's 816 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:17.440 like what I just did on this podcast was you 817 00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:18.960 guys said you want to talk about video games, and 818 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:25.119 it went I forgot to say yes. Anyway, you should 819 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:25.920 watch Slither, Mike. 820 00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:33.360 Well, there is fantastic great Yes, Cools h Banker, the 821 00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:35.760 guy who's uh, the blue guy in. 822 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.280 Yeah, he's fucked up in that movie. 823 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.000 He's he they do him dirty in that movie. He 824 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.920 is like so gross and they just keep making him gross. 825 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:48.679 Incredible practical effects and like there is some cg on 826 00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:50.320 like the slug things, but those look pretty cool. 827 00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:52.960 It's it's a. 828 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:54.639 Good movie and it's funny. 829 00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:57.639 Yes, yes, I'm trying to think. Have I liked anything 830 00:38:57.719 --> 00:38:59.280 James Gun has done? 831 00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.400 You like, because he's like the one guy who does 832 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:03.239 comic book stuff that I actually like. Like I like 833 00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.239 his suicide Squad like he uh and like I don't know, 834 00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.719 he's d C right, I know he doesn't do like 835 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:10.599 did he do Marvel? 836 00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:12.719 No, he did Guardians of the Galaxy Suicide? 837 00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:14.199 Oh yeah, I saw that first Guardians of the Galaxy, 838 00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:15.960 and I every thinking that was actually pretty decent. So 839 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:17.760 like I do like his stuff. 840 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.480 I think, yeah, yeah, Guardian of the Galaxy, the first 841 00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.159 one is fine. I just haven't the. 842 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.880 First one too. I think the second one's okay as well. 843 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:27.119 But like, I don't know, I just I. 844 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:29.960 Just I'm another superhero person of the group. 845 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:36.079 No, I oh my god, gotta break. 846 00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:40.000 Sorry about who's the most pro indie and anti anti super. 847 00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:50.119 I'm an a superhero stuff games. 848 00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.880 Elizabeth Banks not your type. 849 00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:54.559 We have to expose him when we come back on 850 00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:55.159 the podcast. 851 00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:03.519 You mean he's so attractive. Yeah, now, hey, folks, every 852 00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:05.440 woman is beautiful. 853 00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:09.199 All allies think that Elizabeth Banks is a smoke show. 854 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:13.119 I mean, I think you'd have to be pretty wild 855 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:15.840 to say she's not. And that is what Mike was saying. 856 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:19.440 Banks was not attractive. I said, I said, to be clear, 857 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.119 I don't think she's unattractive. So she just reminds me 858 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:24.000 of three of my cousins. And then Mary made fun 859 00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:24.599 of me. 860 00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:28.440 He called her prawn Jason. 861 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.159 So you can see the everybody can see the context. 862 00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:35.639 See what frauds you are disrespectful I. 863 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.000 Was speaking of, actually not speaking of. That's just what 864 00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:40.159 I say when I don't have a segue. Uh I 865 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.079 think I mentioned. There's a cocktail bar in Paris called 866 00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:47.239 Little Red Door, and their household fashion has become quite 867 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:51.840 a cult classic. It uses sabacha. I've been making my own. 868 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:56.400 It's just buckwheat tea. Basically, it's fucking delicious. I haven't 869 00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.639 exactly figured out the perfect proportions because the old fashion 870 00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:03.159 is usually two ounces of whiskey, but I've been doing 871 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:06.360 ounce and half whiskey, ounce and half of sabacha, really 872 00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:07.960 really good. If you want to try it out, you 873 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.159 have to You probably have to make your own sabacha, 874 00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:12.760 though it requires roasting buckwheat groats. 875 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:14.599 I'm doing that usually for dinner. 876 00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.159 So yeah, you might have to just set some aside. 877 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:17.880 I do have to. 878 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.239 I got to figure out how to infuse turmeric for 879 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:24.679 a cocktail in about a week. Confusing coconut milk. I 880 00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:29.199 gotta infuse coconut milk with turmeric. I think I coconut 881 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:33.480 milk fat washing something? What are you washing something with 882 00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:35.719 the coconut milk, like the liquor. I no, I'm just 883 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:37.960 looking at a cocktail I gotta make, and part of 884 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.880 the thing is infusing it with Infusion's easy. 885 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:43.000 You literally just put in the required measurements and let 886 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:44.840 it sit overnight or two nights. 887 00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:47.239 Wait, I didn't know that was part. I thought I 888 00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:48.519 was put in a pan and do a thing. 889 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:51.599 I'm sure there are others, but like, if you're infusing 890 00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:52.760 a lot of stuff, you just let it. 891 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:54.960 I've just never had fire play a role in my 892 00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:56.400 cocktails before, so I know. 893 00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.480 Yeah. I mean, if you make simple syrup, that's just no. 894 00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:00.440 I just by it. 895 00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.440 You get simple, like the easiest one to make. 896 00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:11.519 It's just simple sugar water. Yeah, what cocktail you're making 897 00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.960 with it was a cocktail that we had in New 898 00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:17.840 Orleans once and uh, it's called the anti oxid or 899 00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:20.480 the Anti Inflammatory, and it's this place called Saffron in 900 00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.599 New Orleans. And Bonk loved it, loved it, loved it. 901 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:25.719 But we were like we were we had to like 902 00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.119 slam it real quick to go to our dinner reservations 903 00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.000 next to her. And she's been thinking about it since then. 904 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:31.039 So I'm going to try to make it for her 905 00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:32.000 for a break day next week. 906 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:36.199 So yeah, nice. I enjoy the cocktails that like take 907 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.280 a lot of prep, like a few days, because then 908 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:40.880 by the time you're done with it feels like you, 909 00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:43.920 you know, work towards something. Yeah. 910 00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:48.880 Anyway, speaking of oh, he's gonna rant about how ugly 911 00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:52.880 he thinks, Elizabeth banks Is again said there he goes. 912 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:56.079 Uh, Mary talk. You played Tower Dominion. 913 00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:59.039 Yeah, you recommended it, so I downloaded it. 914 00:42:59.320 --> 00:42:59.840 What do you think. 915 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:03.000 I played it on a stream and I played that 916 00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:06.639 for like three hours, and I was like on the 917 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:10.320 fence about it during the stream. Their boobs are large 918 00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.440 and round. But I just think visually it was hard 919 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:17.639 for me to understand because it's hard. I think that's 920 00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:20.199 like the number one takeaway I had from my first 921 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:22.119 three hours, which is like, what is why is this 922 00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.960 game so freaking hard? They would start me at a 923 00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:30.039 base with six entry points for aliens and give me 924 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.760 like twenty bucks for a gun and be like good luck. 925 00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:38.639 And I died most of the time before my sixth round, 926 00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:42.599 and so I just kept dying. But towards the end 927 00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.320 of my live stream, I did end up once. I 928 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.760 was able to get through that hurdle of those first 929 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:50.159 six rounds and kind of come up with a strategy. 930 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:52.880 And I think there's luck too. I just think there's 931 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:53.320 straight up. 932 00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:55.639 Some luck with your sand later difficulties when you have 933 00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.800 four entrances to sorry, four doors into your base. 934 00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:04.480 Yes, and because that doesn't even include all the different entrances, 935 00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:08.360 because sometimes the door will have three entrances, so now 936 00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.800 one is three on the map. So brutal on the map. 937 00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.119 But I found that I was able to win once 938 00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:18.079 on my live stream, and I was like, that's nice. 939 00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:20.480 Maybe I'll play it again. Maybe I won't. And that 940 00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.639 night I went to a bar and I brought my 941 00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:26.320 steam decks. I didn't feel like talking to anybody, and 942 00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.679 I sat in a bar, I got myself a little 943 00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.639 drink and I opened this game up, and I fucking 944 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:35.639 played this game for like six hours in a bar 945 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:37.400 while I got like, really total. 946 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:38.320 It sounds very fun. 947 00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:43.239 I got super into it. I died a lot, but 948 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.519 I did win two more rounds, and each time I 949 00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:50.360 won it was like by the hair of my chiny chinchin. 950 00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:54.800 I was like holding my breath on round thirty. I 951 00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.159 think it's thirty rounds. Maybe thirty one is like when 952 00:44:57.159 --> 00:44:57.800 they send. 953 00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:01.440 The final difficult did you we got difficulty? 954 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.440 Well, there's three different people, and every time I play it, like, 955 00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:08.719 I think the people are very different the way they 956 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:12.719 like the three different areas, like the jungle seemed harder 957 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.119 to me than the frozen tundra. 958 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.760 Oh, three different factions with different generals in each one. Yes, yeah, 959 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:20.320 I play. 960 00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:23.239 In a lot of different generals, all with big round boobs, 961 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:27.440 and I died so often. When I was able to 962 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:31.840 finally get through thirty rounds, I was sweating, I was 963 00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:36.800 breathing heavy. I was like, this is this is gaming, boys, 964 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.960 this is gaming. I felt truly, and I mean this. 965 00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.559 I've played tower defenses most of my life, and I 966 00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:48.480 think most of them are made for little babies. I 967 00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:53.639 think they're like spoon feeding the gameplay to use. You 968 00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.840 cannot lose unless you're like a complete moron and this 969 00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:01.800 game is mean and you are going to die a lot. 970 00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:05.800 Is the hardest and most interesting tower defense game I've 971 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:06.320 ever played. 972 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.000 It's got the Blottro thing where you think you've won 973 00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:11.920 the game and then that that one blind is like 974 00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.360 what the fuck? Like in Tower Dominion on later difficulties, 975 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.119 When you have four doors in your base, the terrain 976 00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.280 building becomes the most important thing. So ideally you try 977 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.199 to take each of the four doors the base and 978 00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:28.639 try to connect some of the pathways them off but 979 00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:32.320 all sent one way. But if you can't and I 980 00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:35.039 try not to reset even if I get a shitty 981 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:40.119 beginning fetiles, that can screw me over because you'll think, Okay, 982 00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:42.079 I've got everything defended, and then they'll send like a 983 00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.840 bunch of the shielded huge dinosaur dudes through the pathway 984 00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:47.559 you don't have defended, Like well, that was the mean 985 00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:51.199 blind from Blotro. But there's also like HQ upgrades. I 986 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:54.039 didn't even realize where a thing until my eighth time through, 987 00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:57.480 Like those are arguably some of the most important. The 988 00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.199 way some of the upgrades work synergistically. When you're in 989 00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:03.840 the mini the sturdy bunkers the little concrete bunkers, it's like, oh, 990 00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:07.239 you can either upgrade the rate of fire and the 991 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.679 reload speed, but if you have two next to each other, 992 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:11.360 you can give both of them an upgrade that. 993 00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.679 It's fifty more damage. 994 00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:15.800 And then if you surround it with four of them, 995 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:19.119 that one in the middle is then pumping out a 996 00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:20.599 ton of damage. If you put it on a platform 997 00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.480 and it's got height three has way more coverage. The 998 00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:25.960 yellow squares when you are planting them, they. 999 00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:28.519 Don't give you enough money. Why am I so poor? 1000 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.199 I feel like every time I play this, they're like, 1001 00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:33.920 good job, you made the wave. You've also made fifty 1002 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.840 dollars and be done is two hundred dollars. It is 1003 00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:40.760 brutal with how little money I have to survive in 1004 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.159 this game, like just scraping by each wave and hoping 1005 00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:45.880 that I can live. 1006 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:48.719 Yeah. The more generals you beat the game with, and 1007 00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:52.800 there's like similar to Blattro or Vampire Survivors, there's a 1008 00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:56.039 lot of smaller milestones where it's like, oh, just reroll 1009 00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:59.599 your tile with Intel twenty five times, you'll unlock this 1010 00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:03.360 blue PRIs that bolsters your production between waves by one 1011 00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:06.800 hundred and fifty. Yeah. So then there's other generals where 1012 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:12.000 it's like the general makes twice the production but cannot 1013 00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:16.440 gain intel. Or there's another general where the more you 1014 00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:19.920 don't want to connect the pathways because the more battle 1015 00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.800 fronts you have, which are just the unique paths toward 1016 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.920 the base, the more damage all your towers do. So 1017 00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:28.280 you're literally trying to keep them separate. That's when you 1018 00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.119 kind of fan them outward and then go up, but 1019 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.599 you still don't connect them because you lose the ten 1020 00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:38.360 percent per battlefront. It's like it's got that hallmark of 1021 00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.360 a good ROLLCT to me, where a card in Bilotro 1022 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:47.000 or a card in Inscription, or a weapon in Hades 1023 00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.920 or an upgrade in Hades. Like you're playing the first 1024 00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:51.480 few hours like I don't see how that would ever 1025 00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:53.320 be useful, Why would I ever use that? But then 1026 00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:56.360 like h by our thirty, you're like, oh, holy shit, 1027 00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:57.960 I can kind of break the game if I use 1028 00:48:58.000 --> 00:48:59.960 that correctly, and I have a general now I love. 1029 00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.519 You get three of these flames, which are basically these 1030 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:08.320 like inspirational statues, and there's those blueprints where it's like, oh, 1031 00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:11.400 you get two platforms every time, and for just to 1032 00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:13.920 explain what platforms are, It's like elevation in the game 1033 00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:16.800 is a huge deal. You can go from zero to 1034 00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:20.360 three platforms, raise it, and then that increases the range 1035 00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:22.079 of the tower. And range is a huge thing too, 1036 00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:26.480 because then you can cover three pathways with one tower. 1037 00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:32.559 For instance, by combining those inspirational statues which give fire rate, 1038 00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:36.519 reload speed, and damage to each tower adjacent to it, 1039 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:39.159 you can then make this central thing with the three 1040 00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:42.079 statues all high elevation, and those six can carry you 1041 00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.800 from most of the game, provided you also But then 1042 00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:46.280 of course you have to worry about doing damage to 1043 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.400 enemy shields. Then you have to worry about anti air, 1044 00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:51.880 you have to worry about stealth enemies. Like there's a 1045 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.480 lot of layers to where I think I'm forty hours 1046 00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:58.360 in now and I'm still and I'm playing on difficulty 1047 00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:00.639 four now, so I have four doorways at my base 1048 00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:03.920 and that gets tricky, and I am restarting now like 1049 00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:06.920 they are billions. I try not to, but there's times 1050 00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:11.360 like I know, by wave fifteen, you know, like billatro, 1051 00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:14.719 you can tell if you have a bad run and 1052 00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.639 you'll just wipe. Just get to the point where I'm 1053 00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:19.360 doing that. But when I get a good set up 1054 00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:21.199 at the beginning, and I get good a few first 1055 00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.039 rounds of cards, it's it gets pretty thrilling for a 1056 00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:24.840 tower defense game. 1057 00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:30.159 I started it, and I think it helped me realize 1058 00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.400 a pet peeve of mine where it's like, and I 1059 00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:33.599 don't know if there's just a me thing because I 1060 00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:36.480 don't retain information over long periods of time, but if 1061 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.960 it's teaching me stuff like at the tutorial, like I 1062 00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.679 jump in and hear textbox, Hey, okay, this is how 1063 00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:44.000 these things work, and this is how you place this. Okay, cool, 1064 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:45.599 got it? And then I'm like ready to play. And 1065 00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:47.159 then it's like okay, well now here's this and this 1066 00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:49.559 and this and okay, and then I go, oh, here's 1067 00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:51.199 this and this and this, and it's just like when 1068 00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:53.320 you're overloading me and you're not giving me time to 1069 00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:55.199 kind of like learn one thing before moving out of 1070 00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:57.320 the other, I am just kind of like, ah, man, 1071 00:50:57.559 --> 00:50:59.039 this is just too much in once I'm gonna remember 1072 00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:00.800 all this, you need to like base this out more. 1073 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:02.280 So I'm looking at my steam right now and I 1074 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:04.719 played four minutes of this, so I would. 1075 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:09.440 Want to say, yeah, if like, if this reassured not 1076 00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:10.880 I'm not saying if you don't like, you don't have 1077 00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:11.840 to go back, but I would no. 1078 00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:13.960 No, it seemed like everything you said and are saying 1079 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.079 here like this sounds interesting to me. It's like my 1080 00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:16.679 kind of game. 1081 00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:19.920 I guess if it helps. I didn't like, I'm surprised 1082 00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:22.079 to hear that I don't remember that, Like that's how 1083 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:23.039 this is. 1084 00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:24.960 Just a dumb thing where I wasn't in the mood 1085 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.840 to learn something, you know, And we're like, yeah, you probably. 1086 00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.840 Like saw the art style and the indiness of it, 1087 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:32.519 and you were like, the art. 1088 00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:34.599 Style does look like the art style we would see 1089 00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:37.119 on the window of a laser tag place at the mall. 1090 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:42.679 Yeah, the art it's hard to get over. These boobies 1091 00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:44.280 are round. 1092 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:49.679 Yeah, just even boobies aside, it's just say the whole 1093 00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:51.360 deal is not good looking. 1094 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.719 Not at all. But yeah, I mean, Mary, I don't 1095 00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:56.840 know you might feel differently. I definitely think like it's 1096 00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.159 very much a learn by playing kind of game. After 1097 00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:00.519 that intro, I. 1098 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:04.159 Agree, I don't think there's any like real advice you 1099 00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:06.239 could There's no like YouTube that's going to solve it. 1100 00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.000 I think you have to get in there and die. 1101 00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:09.239 Like that is the. 1102 00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:12.519 Most game I don't think is overbearing with the tutorials 1103 00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:13.360 past a certain point. 1104 00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:16.480 No, I just think you have to be comfortable with losing. 1105 00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:20.519 And I think, like this game is, it's mean, But 1106 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:24.239 I think we culturally have started gravitating towards games that 1107 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:27.159 punch you a little bit and call you names and 1108 00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.199 kick you while you're down. Like I find that we've 1109 00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:33.239 been looking for games more like that in our time 1110 00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.800 that remind us of our childhood when it's extremely difficult 1111 00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:38.480 to beat them. This is the hardest Tower Defense I 1112 00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:39.320 have ever played. 1113 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:41.559 I think you're onto something there. I think it did 1114 00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:43.440 swing in a certain way, maybe in like the three 1115 00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.039 six era, where it's like once Call of Duty kind 1116 00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:48.559 of popularized the like hey, just kind of like sit 1117 00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:50.360 behind a thing for a little and you'll get all 1118 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:51.840 your health back, or even Halo did some of that 1119 00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.840 with the Shields, and then we moved away from that. 1120 00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:56.840 Once we started going back like Doom twenty sixteen and 1121 00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:58.920 got past that, it's like, okay, now we're picking up 1122 00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:01.239 health again. We want things to harder and the Rise 1123 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:03.360 of Soul's likes and stuff like that. It is like 1124 00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:04.880 there was a period where things were all like, oh, 1125 00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.519 it's getting easier and more user friendly, and then it's like, Okay, 1126 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:09.519 maybe punishing is fun for some people. 1127 00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:12.079 You know, Yeah, I think people like it, and I 1128 00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:15.599 think honestly, like, I play so many tower defenses that 1129 00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:17.960 I just think they they're handing it to you, They're 1130 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:19.960 spoon feeding it to you, make sure that you probably 1131 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:22.239 won't fail, and this one is not like that. You 1132 00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:25.800 have to just I realized that one you were saying, 1133 00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:27.800 when you like want these bunkers next to each other, 1134 00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:30.760 It took me like six lives to like figure that out. 1135 00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:33.079 I also like, it took me a long time because 1136 00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:36.320 you waste money in this game, you're gonna fucking die, 1137 00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:38.400 Like you can't afford it, Like the money is too 1138 00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:41.000 scarce for you to waste. So the first time I 1139 00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:45.199 like realized a certain gun upgrade was the wrong one, well. 1140 00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:47.079 Oh yeah sucks to suck. 1141 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:48.079 Like I'm gone. 1142 00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:51.079 I will say there are some annoyances I have with it, 1143 00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:54.360 like and they're still updating a patch just hit two 1144 00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:57.079 days ago that now, Mary, this, I don't know if 1145 00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:00.360 you played after this, but now it's actually kind of 1146 00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.800 a cool They have a graphic along the a vertical 1147 00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:06.719 graphic along the right side of the screen showing the 1148 00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:09.920 towers you've built that did the most damage over the round, 1149 00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.360 and it's live updates, so like throughout a round you 1150 00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.239 could see them like shifting and it becomes pretty helpful 1151 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:18.000 because you see if you click on the panel, it'll 1152 00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:21.079 jump the camera right to that tower. So if you 1153 00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:23.000 really want to get really analytical, and you don't have 1154 00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.320 to because again you design your map well enough, like 1155 00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:28.159 there's a few rounds later on by round twenty five 1156 00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:29.679 where you can kind of sit back and just enjoy 1157 00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:32.000 how much damage it's doing. But it'll bring you to 1158 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:35.559 that tower and say, oh this this uh war Wolf, 1159 00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.079 which is basically just like the artillery. They lob stuff 1160 00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:40.159 and you can really buff them to do area damage 1161 00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:42.639 like that did a lot of damage. What am I 1162 00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:44.800 doing here? Or I guess that shows me the enemies 1163 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.599 are coming this way, so you could start upgrading the 1164 00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:50.960 towers in that area. It's a really bolster the defense 1165 00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:55.039 is there. But there's other stuff where if the round 1166 00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:58.360 has not if you haven't manually started the wave and 1167 00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:01.400 you place a tower you can press you can click 1168 00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:03.159 on it and press cancel and it'll refund you in 1169 00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:06.320 full because the wave is not started. However, to your point, 1170 00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:09.920 if you may accidentally select the wrong upgrade to the tower, 1171 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:14.400 there's three upgrades for those who have played it that 1172 00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:17.719 can fuck you over, because yeah, you're you're spending every 1173 00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:22.280 dollar pretty preciously in like the mid game, So if 1174 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:25.599 I select one, that's like, oh, if this tower has 1175 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:30.159 no adjacent buildings, it does an extra ten percent damage. 1176 00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:32.280 But if you accidentally click that and it does have 1177 00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:34.920 an adjacent building, you can't undo it. So like, I 1178 00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:37.320 would love for them to undo that cancel because sometimes 1179 00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:40.760 I'm just going especially on steam Deck. The steam Deck 1180 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:44.960 is you're basically using your right thumb to move towers around. 1181 00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:48.639 I use the haptic pad as opposed to the analog stick. 1182 00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:51.679 You can accidentally misplace stuff there, and it's nice that 1183 00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.000 you can recall them in between rounds, but the fact 1184 00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:58.719 that you can't recall upgrades is really frustrating because especially 1185 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:00.840 I don't know it just heat of the moment stuff 1186 00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:03.320 kicks in when you're later into some of those rounds, and. 1187 00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:05.360 It's it's nice that you can buy stuff in the 1188 00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:07.960 middle of the round because like I have on accident 1189 00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:11.400 also hit start the round when I didn't mean to, 1190 00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:13.960 but I could quickly place things during the round, which 1191 00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:16.840 I appreciate. I will just say that there's steam deck 1192 00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:20.920 controls not great. No A is start the round. Are 1193 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.400 you fucking kidding me? That's just like not a good 1194 00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:28.400 button to use for start. Enemies coming out my face 1195 00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:32.599 like they they really should have thought that schematic through 1196 00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.559 And I accidentally started rounds so often? 1197 00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.599 So are you like placing things and prepping and stuff 1198 00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:41.320 with other buttons? And then A is to start No 1199 00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:42.599 matter what you. 1200 00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:46.320 Want to to write triggers to place things and rotate, 1201 00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.079 A is to start the round, I. 1202 00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:53.079 Start, should start or just anything but A Basically, I. 1203 00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:54.880 Could not agree more. I've accidentally pressed it, and I 1204 00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:56.639 also pressed it because I was like, there's no way 1205 00:56:56.679 --> 00:57:00.000 that starts around, and it fucking didow huh. 1206 00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:02.599 Yeah. I stick to the triggers to rotate stuff, and 1207 00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:05.559 then the haptic and then I move the cursor. Literally, 1208 00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:07.639 I literally moved the cursor to start wave on the 1209 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:08.840 screen to avoid that. 1210 00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:11.480 I've never tried the haptic thing on the steam Deck. 1211 00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:14.119 I have not really used that as a mouse before it. 1212 00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:17.079 It's pretty good. Yeah, it's so much more responsive than 1213 00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:20.039 like it gives you so much more room for error 1214 00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:23.079 because you can swipe really quick quickly across the screen. 1215 00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:27.119 But it's really responsive when you correct as well. So 1216 00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:29.679 it does, for me at least, feel pretty natural as 1217 00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:32.360 opposed to the analog stick, which is can be feel 1218 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:34.159 pretty hefty in that kind of game with a cursor. 1219 00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:35.719 And if it is like kind of a mouse and 1220 00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:38.440 keyboard type thing, is it like are you pressing down 1221 00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:39.719 on it to click or are you doing like R 1222 00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:40.519 two or something? 1223 00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:43.159 R two is a place and then L two rotates 1224 00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:43.719 the towers. 1225 00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:46.320 Okay, okay, L one R. 1226 00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:48.119 One do something in that game? What do they do? 1227 00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:51.880 I forget? So yeah, no, I just stick to the 1228 00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:55.840 triggers to Mary's point, to avoid the accidental face button presses, 1229 00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:58.960 which are tied to pretty important functions in that game. 1230 00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.920 I hope they'll update it with touch controls. Doesn't have 1231 00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:05.880 them right now? Or no, it does it, I'm not 1232 00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:07.239 actually I don't remember trying. 1233 00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.440 A game like that would be conducive to iPad or something, right. 1234 00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:11.360 I hope they do. 1235 00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:15.480 They make a wonderful iPhone game and it looks like it, 1236 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:17.559 but noah, it does, I don't think. 1237 00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:19.880 Yeah, I will say. Also, even on Steam Deck in 1238 00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:23.960 later rounds, I have a release steam Deck model. It 1239 00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:27.159 was chugging a bit later on when you have eighty 1240 00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:32.400 artillery cannons and sixty bunkers and a bunch of machine 1241 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:34.679 gun platforms, it starts to sputter. 1242 00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.880 I forget on the on the original Steam Deck, can 1243 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.280 you adjust that TDP meter? Or is that just an 1244 00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:42.280 O lead feature? I can't remember that, the one where 1245 00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:44.199 it's like you're basically saying how much power you wanted 1246 00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:46.239 to use at the expensive battery so you can like 1247 00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:47.639 crank it all the way up if it's a demand 1248 00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:49.800 of game but you're gonna lose battery power, or if 1249 00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:51.480 it's like a little you know in the game with 1250 00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:53.639 not you know, much going on graphically, you can crank 1251 00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:55.280 it down and have eight hours of battery. 1252 00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:58.599 Yeah, I'm about seventy five percent sure. It's just a 1253 00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:01.760 lead okay, And that is a very handy feature. Yeah, 1254 00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:03.480 it sounds great and I gotta get one eventually. I 1255 00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:06.960 got to get that in a switch too. But yeah, no, 1256 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:08.760 I'm glad you tried Towered of Minion. Yeah, definitely not 1257 00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:10.400 a perfect game, but like it has consumed a lot 1258 00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:14.320 of my time because like it's just doing really cool 1259 00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:17.880 things rogue light wise and terrain building wise. Like it's 1260 00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:19.760 made really good use of the rogue light structure. A 1261 00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:21.960 lot of games just kind of pen the rogue light 1262 00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:25.519 systems and all of a sudden you're playing three different 1263 00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:27.920 games at once. This all feels like a piece and 1264 00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:32.360 I like it quite a bit. But yeah, Dan, Dan, 1265 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:34.800 if you get bored when I want to need something 1266 00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:37.920 to try, I will say I do not recall the 1267 00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:39.599 tutorial whatsoever I've. 1268 00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:42.800 Learned totally playing this is just it was just probably 1269 00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:44.360 the wrong time for me to start that game, and 1270 00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:45.760 it just wasn't in the mood to learn something, or 1271 00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:47.920 I was tired or something like. It sounds like a 1272 00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.440 game I would enjoy a lot. So yeah, I think 1273 00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:52.920 there aren't eighteen fucking games I want to play coming 1274 00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:53.960 out the next like three weeks. 1275 00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:56.280 But you should try The Silk Songs tomorrow. 1276 00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:57.599 Oh yeah, I am going to play that. 1277 00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:02.440 Yeah, mar offline, I don't want to bother Mary. Mary. 1278 01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:04.440 You played Sword of the Sea as well. That game 1279 01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.280 looks really good. Kind of like Real World meets Journey 1280 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:08.079 meets Tony Hawk. 1281 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:11.159 Uh yeah, I don't. 1282 01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:17.920 Know pitch for that game. This is a giant super base, right, 1283 01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:19.920 that's what it looked like. You're skating around a sword. 1284 01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:25.840 You're skating on a sword on sand. It's from a 1285 01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:30.320 giant squid. And so if you stop interrupting, I'll tell 1286 01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:33.760 you that it is from the people who made the 1287 01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:37.679 artists behind Journey. And then they also made ab Zoo 1288 01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:43.000 and they also made Pathless Pathless, which is all where 1289 01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:49.000 you skate on sand. So these are kind of like similar. 1290 01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:53.079 They have a thing and they know it. I will say, like, 1291 01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:56.679 I think this game is beautiful. Just to start, I 1292 01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.159 will I will say it is stunning to look at. 1293 01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:04.599 And they they really cracked it. Whoever was their graphics lead, 1294 01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:08.159 Like the people who were doing art tech knocked it 1295 01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:10.000 out of the park. This is a game where like 1296 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:13.880 as you solve puzzles, the sea comes out of the 1297 01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:21.639 sand and massive animals, whales, sharks, stingrays, they just start 1298 01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:27.760 floating in the sky of this desert landscape. I mean, 1299 01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.599 it is so cool how they make water and sand 1300 01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:36.760 work together visually, and I find that shockingly well done. 1301 01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:41.000 This is all set to a beautiful cinematic soundtrack as 1302 01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:44.079 you would expect, just like those other games that you'd experience, 1303 01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:50.079 and you're kind of floating around, skating on your sword 1304 01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:54.039 with all these animals, and yes, you can ride basically 1305 01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:56.960 every animal. You see, a giant whale, shark, you can 1306 01:01:57.079 --> 01:01:59.760 jump on their back and hang out and take a 1307 01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:01.880 little spin with them, which I think is so cute. 1308 01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:06.440 In the Journey fashion, there's not really any dialogue, and 1309 01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:09.360 they don't explain the puzzles. You'll just see a visual puzzle, 1310 01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:13.440 maybe like a fountain and there's no water coming out 1311 01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.000 of it, and so you're like hanging out. You'll get 1312 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.239 prompted to light a bunch of lights. 1313 01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:21.840 You can just touch a bunch of lanterns around it. 1314 01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:24.840 Touch lanterns and they light up, and then that will 1315 01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:27.079 open up an area, and then you stab your sword 1316 01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:30.519 in the area and all of a sudden, the fountain 1317 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.320 now has water coming out of it, and you have 1318 01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:34.559 solved one fourth of the puzzle, and you need to 1319 01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:37.000 do that three times. There's also time trial areas. If 1320 01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:40.360 you go to certain areas, it literally has a time symbol. 1321 01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:43.480 It's an area where it wants you to do something 1322 01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:46.679 within a certain amount of time to get like a 1323 01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:51.480 little bonus. It's very visual. There's like no there's like 1324 01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:55.599 no audio or video at all. There's no dialogue. It's 1325 01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:56.559 it's all dewey. 1326 01:02:57.079 --> 01:02:58.840 Yeah, I mean it's really good with that, like no 1327 01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:01.519 hud stuff and like just communicating to you, like since 1328 01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:04.000 everything is sandy at the start, and oh I did 1329 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.320 some ship and now there's water, and it's so easy 1330 01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:07.679 to just like look at the land and be like, 1331 01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:09.000 all right, that's a bunch of sand over there. I 1332 01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:10.599 bet I gotta do some shit to make that water. 1333 01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:13.239 Like it's pretty elegant with the way it does that. 1334 01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:15.440 I do feel that, like I probably played like an 1335 01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:18.800 hour or two of it, and you know, gorgeous. You 1336 01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:21.159 know that all the skating stuff feels really great and everything. 1337 01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:24.280 But it is pretty simple with the stuff you're doing 1338 01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:25.960 in terms of like I'm gonna get around and look 1339 01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:28.159 at stuff and oh I should probably do that over there. 1340 01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:30.480 Like this isn't really a knock on it. It's just 1341 01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:32.320 after like an hour or two of playing it, I 1342 01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:34.639 think I kind of saw well, like I'm sure there's 1343 01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.280 some beautiful vistas and things like that, and some cool 1344 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:39.960 animal moments and stuff like that, but like, as far 1345 01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:42.800 as what the gameplay was, I didn't really see that progressing. 1346 01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:45.440 Like you would give your shards to that merchant type 1347 01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:47.360 guy or whatever, and it's like now you can do these. 1348 01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:49.719 Tricks and kickflip with your sword. 1349 01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:54.920 But yeah, okay, sure that's cool. It just seemed I 1350 01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:56.760 don't mean this to sound as harsh as it might sound, 1351 01:03:56.760 --> 01:04:00.599 but like a little style over substance, you know, yeah, I. 1352 01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:03.360 Think that's fair. I would say like this game is 1353 01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:07.960 a stunning feast for the eyes and the ears, Like 1354 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:12.800 this is visually inaudibly gorgeous. In terms of like the 1355 01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:16.360 actual gameplay, I've kind of felt like I've played this before. 1356 01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:18.679 Yes, I have from the studio. 1357 01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:22.280 I have skated down these dunes I have I have 1358 01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:27.039 solved these very similar puzzles before. This has a short 1359 01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:31.320 gameplay experience. I did roll credits on this. It did 1360 01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:33.440 not take super long. I do think I missed some 1361 01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:35.400 stuff I didn't do all the time trial stuff. I 1362 01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:38.920 think I I skirted past some puzzles. But this is 1363 01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:44.719 a short visual experience that, while stunning and again just 1364 01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:47.760 so so so pretty, I have to say, like the 1365 01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:51.760 original Journey, while it wasn't always like the most stunning game. 1366 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.320 And Journey is pretty, but it's it's it's not like 1367 01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:57.199 it's pretty. Is this I think this game is prettier. 1368 01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:00.599 But what I'm saying is is like Journey didn't need 1369 01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:03.039 that because what it was doing was so filled with 1370 01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:07.320 heart and it allowed you to have these incredible experiences 1371 01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:11.119 with other people in a world that was the crux 1372 01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:15.039 of the gameplay. And in none of these other games, 1373 01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:16.880 as far as I'm aware, correct me if I'm wrong, 1374 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:20.679 but like they just haven't really added these elements of 1375 01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:23.199 finding other people in the world. There's none of that 1376 01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:23.559 at all. 1377 01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:25.519 This is they're solitary, Yeah. 1378 01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:29.679 Solitary experience, and I think it feels like it's missing 1379 01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.360 a little bit in the sense that I would have 1380 01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:35.119 loved to share that with another individual like I did 1381 01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:37.519 with Journey. So I don't know. It's like you're you're 1382 01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:39.599 telling me this comes from the makers of Journey. It 1383 01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:41.840 feels a lot like Journey. It looks a lot like Journey, 1384 01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.239 but Journey did something that this came didn't, And it's 1385 01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.239 like Journey's like fifteen years old. 1386 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:50.639 Yeah, And I would actually argue that Journey I do 1387 01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:52.639 remember thinking it was beautiful, you know, back when it 1388 01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:54.119 came out on PST. 1389 01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:54.559 It was beautiful. 1390 01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:56.920 Yeah, I'm not saying the lead with that is. The 1391 01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:58.679 thing is like, yes, it was beautiful. That was a 1392 01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:01.639 nice bonus for Journy, Like you were saying, Mary, I 1393 01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:03.440 do think the thing that made Journey one of the 1394 01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:07.079 best games of all time is just that incredible way 1395 01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:10.039 that it utilizes the online connection with other people and 1396 01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:13.239 the way that it limits your communication. And it's just like, man, 1397 01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:15.880 me and this person, this random other, actual person playing 1398 01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:18.280 right now, We're just going up this freezing mountain together, 1399 01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:19.880 and like we're just in this together and we just 1400 01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:20.880 met and everybody. 1401 01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:22.440 And they might die, but I'm worried about them, and 1402 01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:24.400 I don't even know who they are. Like, this game 1403 01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:28.280 does not evoke that type of feeling in me. No voise, 1404 01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:30.639 Was I really worried about anybody? 1405 01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:33.800 Yeah? I mean the post Journey games made by you know, 1406 01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:36.920 Giant Squid kind of they're beautiful screen savers. I would say, 1407 01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:39.719 you know, where's Journey with something unbelievably special. 1408 01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:43.039 I hope that this company continues to make stunning games. 1409 01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:46.039 I think that there is it is important in our 1410 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.320 industry to make space for companies like Giant Squid that 1411 01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:54.000 are making stunning visual spectacles because they are artists. This 1412 01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:57.239 game is art. Yeah, in terms of gameplay, I would 1413 01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:00.480 like them to challenge themselves a little bit more to 1414 01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:06.679 invoke an actual emotional response to this game beyond God 1415 01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:07.639 is this pretty? 1416 01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:12.719 Yep, totally agreed, it's a bummer. I was looking at gameplay. 1417 01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:14.320 I thought it might be like wheel World in the 1418 01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:17.000 sense that you're actually getting rewarded for exploring. 1419 01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:22.280 More, not as much as will World, where Walworld is hard. 1420 01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:26.159 It feels more open, like you know, these are like 1421 01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:30.679 open areas like open zone or whatever, where you can 1422 01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:32.599 go whatever direction you want, but there's just not a 1423 01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:35.039 lot to do, at least real world. It was like, Okay, 1424 01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:36.920 I can kind of pick up this race here, I 1425 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:39.480 can go find this thing here. There's collectibles and merchants 1426 01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:39.840 and stuff. 1427 01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:43.079 It's hidden the people and NPCs everywhere. This game doesn't 1428 01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:46.679 have any people at all except for the merchant. And 1429 01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:48.559 the animals are cool to look at, but you can't 1430 01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:49.320 play with them. 1431 01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:51.800 Yeah, You're just kind of skating around until you see 1432 01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:54.360 something you can probably skate near, and then something happens. 1433 01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:55.760 You know, it's not deeper than that. 1434 01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:58.119 And even writing the animals that I was saying earlier. 1435 01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:00.559 The first time I like stood on a whale, I 1436 01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:02.360 was like, this is the coolest thing ever. But then 1437 01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:06.000 I realized that the pathway of the whale doesn't change. 1438 01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:08.480 He doesn't do any animation. He doesn't play with me, 1439 01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:11.800 you know, he just stays on his little path and 1440 01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:13.760 I jump on and when I jump, and I jump 1441 01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:15.639 off and when I jump off. Now, there is an 1442 01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:17.039 area of the game that I don't know if you 1443 01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:22.720 got to yet. Dan, I'm just gonna say, sharks, No, No, 1444 01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:26.159 that's pretty cool. And I think that that is where 1445 01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:29.640 they took some risks as a team. And so I 1446 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:33.840 will say that there is change ups in the gameplay 1447 01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:37.399 that I think are smart, and I applaud them for 1448 01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:40.640 doing those. I just think I wish there was more 1449 01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:43.039 of that, but they they do mix it up a 1450 01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:47.640 little bit. Okay, game is not long, so I think 1451 01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:50.319 you can. You should be able to complete it in 1452 01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:52.439 like another sitting, like you'd get through it if you 1453 01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:52.840 wanted to. 1454 01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:55.439 I yeah, I respect that. It is beautiful. 1455 01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:57.760 It's just like it was not grabbed me from the 1456 01:08:58.079 --> 01:08:59.399 video game part of it at all. 1457 01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:00.439 Yeah, I understand. 1458 01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:05.079 I think that's a really valid criticism. Yeah, it's a 1459 01:09:05.159 --> 01:09:08.319 tough one for me. I really like this. I really 1460 01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:12.039 like this company and I root for them. It's beautiful stuff, 1461 01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:15.079 playable art. 1462 01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:18.720 Mary, you're playing the Rogue Prince of Persia. 1463 01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:24.720 No, that's me too. Uh, this is the new one 1464 01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:27.920 from Ubisoft. We loved Prince of Persia when it came out. 1465 01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:36.000 You guys remember Metroid a Venia The Rogue Prince of Persia. 1466 01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:39.840 I was not sure about it. In my first hour 1467 01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:41.800 with it, I was like, I don't know, Like there's 1468 01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:44.640 wall there's some wall running, but it's really limited and 1469 01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:47.680 you get like slowed pretty early. It took me about 1470 01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:51.279 three hours for me to be like, oh shit, I 1471 01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:57.600 fucking love this game. I do actually really like this concept. 1472 01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:02.760 This is one of those uh rogue lights where you 1473 01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:06.640 start every path with a main weapon and a side weapon. 1474 01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:11.399 You as you kill, you gain currency money to upgrade 1475 01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:15.319 your weapons or swap them out. Why don't you sell style? Yeah, 1476 01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.359 it's fucking dead cells and they they really did learn 1477 01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:21.000 good lessons here of like what to do with it. 1478 01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:24.399 It is fun to run through all these enemies or 1479 01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:27.239 not because if you're about to die, I just head 1480 01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:29.760 to the final door because then I get a full heel. 1481 01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:33.039 But you're you're not getting all the upgrades for your weapons, 1482 01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:36.079 which you're gonna need around Area two or three because 1483 01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:41.359 it gets so progressively hard. There's boss fights that are 1484 01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:46.079 very tricky and you have to learn their attacks to 1485 01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:48.000 be able to progress. So I was doing I was 1486 01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:50.640 like having killer runs where I was like, I'm unstoppable, 1487 01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:52.800 but if I was coming across the boss, i'd never 1488 01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:56.359 come across before. I'm probably gonna die because you got 1489 01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:58.279 to learn their move sets and then come back to them. 1490 01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:02.279 But starting runs over again not a problem. There's also, 1491 01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:05.920 as expected, a permanent currency that you are getting every 1492 01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:08.800 time you do a run. You can lose it if 1493 01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:12.319 you do not send it home. There's only certain shrines 1494 01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:14.159 where get to send this. I think it's like a 1495 01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:16.840 I'm just gonna call it purple currency because it's purple 1496 01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:19.239 and you have to get to these purple shrines in 1497 01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:21.119 order to send your currency home, and if you don't, 1498 01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:25.279 you lose it, which sucks. But every time I was 1499 01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:27.520 doing a run, I was probably sending at least forty 1500 01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:30.960 purples home and over time, I was using that to 1501 01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:33.920 get more flasks, right, so like that I could heal 1502 01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:40.119 twice per run. Oh my god, fucking amazing, or increase 1503 01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:43.800 my damage or have more health, which is I think 1504 01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:45.680 the most important thing. When you start this game. You're 1505 01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:49.560 so squishy, you die almost instantly all the time. If 1506 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:52.000 you just keep playing, you upgrade your character, you get 1507 01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:54.720 better health. By the end of my times there, I 1508 01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:58.119 was like getting like easily four hundred health points per run, 1509 01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:01.239 which was letting me go really far in the game. 1510 01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:05.520 It's got an easy to navigate map system so that 1511 01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:10.000 you can very easily jump to different areas of the map. 1512 01:12:10.159 --> 01:12:13.520 Once you're trying to get to different areas, and Mike, 1513 01:12:13.560 --> 01:12:15.000 you have a face. What's up that face? 1514 01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:19.680 The art style or like the animations when he's diving, 1515 01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:23.520 it looks almost like there's a comical aspect to it, 1516 01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:27.000 like a lightheartedness to it, like he's there's some of 1517 01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:33.199 the stills he's like this full on, uh think of it. 1518 01:12:33.199 --> 01:12:36.319 Looks comic Bookie to me. Oh, lots of traversial dance, 1519 01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:40.319 traversal Dan that you will love. This game is all 1520 01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:44.800 about wall running, jumping on like poles, stix. Oh, environmental 1521 01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:48.359 damage out the ass. The game's constantly like, here's a 1522 01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:52.319 big ass enemy, but there's spikes behind him, and there's 1523 01:12:52.319 --> 01:12:54.680 a rock in front of you. Kick a rock at him, 1524 01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:58.800 stun him, and then kick that guy right into the spikes. 1525 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:01.800 He's dead. So it really is pushing you to use 1526 01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:03.279 the environment to your advantage. 1527 01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:07.439 Okay, did this have like a early access thing or something? 1528 01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:10.039 I don't know. I don't play. I never play early 1529 01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:10.720 access games. 1530 01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:12.760 Say I don't either, and so I'm trying to think, like, 1531 01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:16.319 because I know Bank was playing this recently, and I 1532 01:13:16.399 --> 01:13:18.079 remember thinking it was like, oh, didn't that come out? 1533 01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:20.439 Like there was like no hype or anything, and then 1534 01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:22.000 like kind of came out and no one really talked 1535 01:13:22.039 --> 01:13:23.640 about it, and then all of a sudden Bank was 1536 01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:25.920 talking about it, like in the last week, Mary, you're 1537 01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:28.000 bringing it up, And now I'm looking on Steam it 1538 01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:31.279 said release date was August twentieth. So my assumption is 1539 01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:32.880 I probably ignored it because it was early access. 1540 01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:36.359 That's a sleeper hit. But like, I really think that 1541 01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:39.159 this game is a banger and people should be paying 1542 01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:42.039 more attention to it. I'll give you like some other examples, 1543 01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:45.439 like the weapons sets are really fun. Oh there's also 1544 01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:49.720 badges that you can get that can also amplify the 1545 01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:52.880 weapons that you're choosing. I'll give you an example. I 1546 01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:55.560 ran across to shrine. It was the kind where you 1547 01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:57.880 had to like take some of your health in order 1548 01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:00.439 to get a badge. So I cut myself. It literally 1549 01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:02.239 has an animation for you slit your wrist, which is 1550 01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:05.520 so sick. And I got this badge that said that 1551 01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:08.359 if I attacked a certain amount of enemies in a row, 1552 01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:10.800 they would all get stun locked at the same time. 1553 01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:12.359 And I was like, oh, that's a sweet badge. So 1554 01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:14.840 I apply this badge, and then I get a weapon 1555 01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:20.199 that's like does poison damage. And then I got another 1556 01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:23.319 badge that if they get stun locked, they get poisoned. 1557 01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:28.319 And so now I'm like double poisoning stunlocking them. I'm 1558 01:14:28.439 --> 01:14:31.960 slashing them, stunning them, re poisoning them. I was the 1559 01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:36.239 poisoned Queen. Everybody was pukin. I was killing it. I 1560 01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:39.279 felt really strong when I got a good build in 1561 01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:42.039 this game, and when I was unlucky and died, I 1562 01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:45.640 wasn't angry because I was like, these runs are pretty easy. 1563 01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:49.560 I can just try again. This has that rogue light 1564 01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:52.279 mentality to it, where you can just you just do 1565 01:14:52.439 --> 01:14:54.319 it again and you're gonna be absolutely fine. But it 1566 01:14:54.319 --> 01:15:01.159 adds a lot more maneuverability of like maneuvering around all 1567 01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:06.560 of these spikes and chains and saws that are coming 1568 01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:08.880 at you from all directions. If you can get through 1569 01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:11.960 those elements, they usually give you extra badges or extra 1570 01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:15.399 money or extra coins to reward you. Finally, there's also 1571 01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:17.640 story elements. You can run into somebody and they'll be like, 1572 01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:21.359 i'll help you, but I need this book. Hopefully you 1573 01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:23.199 come across it on that run. But if you die, 1574 01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:25.680 then hopefully on a future run, you'll come across this book. 1575 01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:27.000 And then if you go back and give it to 1576 01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:29.920 that guy, then he'll be at your home base. And 1577 01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:32.720 now you can start cooking up new weapons and new 1578 01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:36.239 badges and new stuff. I saved a lady, and now 1579 01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:39.000 I can change all the colors of my cool outfit. 1580 01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:41.680 So you're constantly like saving people, and then they come 1581 01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:43.920 back to homebase and you can use them for upgrades. 1582 01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:47.359 Cool. I'm super interested in trying this now, and I 1583 01:15:47.479 --> 01:15:50.840 just downloaded it. But like I speaks to like, I've 1584 01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:53.159 never been a fan of the early access stuff, and 1585 01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:55.159 I'm not a business person. Well, I guess I am. 1586 01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:57.920 I guess I own a company, but I guess I 1587 01:15:57.960 --> 01:15:58.439 can't say that. 1588 01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:02.720 Owner dan right, I guess a business person. 1589 01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:05.840 All right, I own a business, but I'm not in 1590 01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:10.359 the games making business. I feel like you lose something 1591 01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:12.520 when it's like, Okay, you're gonna get a little bit 1592 01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:14.760 of a wave of people talking about something when it 1593 01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:16.840 comes out in early access, and then by the time 1594 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:18.800 it actually comes out, like I did not hear that 1595 01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:19.279 this game. 1596 01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:21.920 I did not know what this game came out in 1597 01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:24.319 earlier this year, or was early access earlier this. 1598 01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:27.199 Year, And if it had not been for Bonk playing 1599 01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:28.880 it in the last week and you bring it up here, 1600 01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:30.840 I would not have thought to look this up and 1601 01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:33.560 be like, oh shit, I guess that game is done now. Yeah, Like, 1602 01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:35.520 I just feel like you lose something by like kind 1603 01:16:35.560 --> 01:16:38.560 of spreading the attention of the launch. 1604 01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:38.800 You know. 1605 01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:41.279 I'm curious what Mike thinks about this, but I feel 1606 01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:42.880 like most of the time early access is a way 1607 01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:47.119 for a game company to genuinely gauge and fix their game. 1608 01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:48.920 They need to like buy a little bit more time, 1609 01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:50.640 and this is a way to be like it's on 1610 01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:53.560 early access, you can like buy it now, but we 1611 01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:57.000 still needed another six months to cook it. So that's 1612 01:16:57.119 --> 01:16:57.880 what I think they. 1613 01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:00.359 Use it for. Yeah, I mean for every game that 1614 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:03.239 you don't realize release. You also have Balder's Gate three 1615 01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:06.199 or Haiti's games that used early access. 1616 01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:07.319 Well one of those was good. 1617 01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:11.800 Palder's Gate three is the biggest early access success story 1618 01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:15.000 that's ever existing. I know you're, yes, you're being a heel, 1619 01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:18.119 but yeah, no, I mean there's value to not everybody 1620 01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:21.640 uses it the same way. There's definitely studios that are 1621 01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:24.399 working really closely with their dedicated players, And I think 1622 01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:28.079 something like Balder's Gate three worked because you can replay 1623 01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:30.920 that first act so many times that even the people 1624 01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:32.520 who were really dedicated to it are the people who 1625 01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:34.720 had dipped into it and then dipped out, were like, well, 1626 01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:36.359 now I could just play with a new character or 1627 01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:38.960 make different choices. Haiti's same thing was a Rogue Light, 1628 01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:43.800 where it's like now they were able to like fine 1629 01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:46.239 tune so many small things out each weapon because what 1630 01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:49.560 people were telling them. And in a way, you're getting 1631 01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:53.000 QA testers to pay you to play the game and 1632 01:17:53.079 --> 01:17:55.119 not the other way. Around, so yeah, but. 1633 01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:57.560 I'm sure there are Like, I'm sure there are dozens 1634 01:17:57.640 --> 01:17:59.880 of reasons that it does make a lot of sense 1635 01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:02.239 business wise and dev wise. But I'm just saying in 1636 01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:05.199 terms of like release hype, it would you know, like 1637 01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:08.720 or just a knowledge of it coming out or being 1638 01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:10.640 done or whatever. I think it does kind of hurt there, 1639 01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:13.159 But maybe the other stuff that weighs it. 1640 01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:15.000 I don't know. It depends on the kind of game. 1641 01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:16.680 I mean, there are plenty of games that are fucking 1642 01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:19.359 blowing up now that technically have never left early access. 1643 01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:23.960 Like it was Deeprocylactic had more players during early access 1644 01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:26.119 than it did after quote unquote one point zero and 1645 01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:28.079 one point oh g secondary pubg. 1646 01:18:28.439 --> 01:18:29.720 Was a phenomenon before it came out. 1647 01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:31.319 Yeah, it depends in the kind of game. Like I 1648 01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:34.479 think Hades two is a unique case for me, where 1649 01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:37.359 same with Darkest Dungeon two. It's like, I know what 1650 01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:39.920 the final game will sort of be like structurally, and 1651 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:41.840 I want to just wait and see what it's going 1652 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:46.039 to be like, Whereas something like Deeprocylactic, for instance, was like, 1653 01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:49.680 all right, well, this is a small loop played out 1654 01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:52.159 over however many times I want to play it as 1655 01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:54.000 a live service game, so I'm going to play a 1656 01:18:54.039 --> 01:18:55.560 lot now and then I'll come back to see what 1657 01:18:55.640 --> 01:18:59.880 they tweak later. It's not like Hades, where you're playing 1658 01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:05.159 the entire loop with only certain tools unlocked, which feels incomplete, 1659 01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:07.520 more and complete to me than if I was just 1660 01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:10.319 repeating the same loop and then kind I don't know 1661 01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:10.960 if that makes sense. 1662 01:19:11.039 --> 01:19:12.520 Yeah, no, no it does, because that's how I was 1663 01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:15.079 with like Rogue Legacy too. Like I have played Rogue Legacy, 1664 01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:17.720 the original one on like three different consoles to completion 1665 01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:19.439 because I loved that game so much, and I was 1666 01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:21.840 so excited about two. And then like it launched an 1667 01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:23.479 early access and I was like, man, I'm such a fan. 1668 01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:24.840 I got I got to play to the early access, 1669 01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:27.439 and like I got in. I was excited. I played 1670 01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:29.159 that first area a couple of times. Then you see 1671 01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:30.920 like a text thing being like we can't wait to 1672 01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:33.840 keep making this game. I'm like, uh okay, and then 1673 01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:36.039 by the time it's like actually out, I'm like, yeah, 1674 01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:38.279 I kind of played that. I don't know, I'm done, 1675 01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:40.840 you know, Like it's I That's why I'm not touching 1676 01:19:40.880 --> 01:19:43.640 Haites too. Like I loaded up for like very short 1677 01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:44.920 amount of time, and I was like, I'm not going 1678 01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:45.239 to do this. 1679 01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:45.920 I waited. 1680 01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:49.439 Hades was an early access success story, like a big one, 1681 01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:52.479 and like, I waited until one point oh yeah, and 1682 01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:54.199 I'm glad I did because I fucking loved Hades and 1683 01:19:54.279 --> 01:19:56.159 it wasn't like oh I kind of played it a 1684 01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:58.000 bunch of times before it actually came out, you know. 1685 01:19:58.600 --> 01:20:01.600 Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a per game thing. Like Darkest 1686 01:20:01.640 --> 01:20:03.239 Dungeon two. I tried and I just straight up did 1687 01:20:03.279 --> 01:20:04.800 not like it, even though the first game is one 1688 01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:08.880 of my favorites in the last decade fifteen years, and 1689 01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:11.560 they've changed it fairly drastically. They've released a DLC that's 1690 01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:13.159 more like the first game, and I have not tried 1691 01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:17.000 it yet, but yeah, there's like risk of Rain two. 1692 01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:20.640 I remember it was another out outlier where I played 1693 01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:23.279 a lot of it in early excess and I played 1694 01:20:23.319 --> 01:20:25.680 straight through one point oh without even realizing that it 1695 01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:29.640 was one point oh. It's just I guess that one 1696 01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:33.439 point oh release day. It can be so nebulous whether 1697 01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:35.680 it's going to be important for that particular dev or 1698 01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:39.479 that game, whereas Haites like I feel like they're going 1699 01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:42.520 to build up to it really well with two, just 1700 01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:44.319 because One was one of those games where it's like 1701 01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:46.039 a lot of people were playing it and saying it 1702 01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:48.119 was good, but then all of a sudden it blew 1703 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:50.880 up on switch and like now I feel like two 1704 01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:55.279 is in that unique position where people are I think 1705 01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:57.399 that release day will be huge because I. 1706 01:20:57.399 --> 01:20:59.560 Mean, it was a different anomaly that Hades is so 1707 01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:02.000 fucked big that, like, you know, during Game of the 1708 01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:03.760 Year last year, I heard people of Giant Bomb talking 1709 01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:05.359 about a bunch of stuff it does that that was 1710 01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:08.760 already implemented, and it's like, shit, that sounds awesome. And 1711 01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:11.079 by the time it comes out and that's all implemented, 1712 01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:14.800 Hades is big enough to where it will absolutely get 1713 01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:15.960 Did it win the Game. 1714 01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:16.560 Award that year. 1715 01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:21.159 For or that it takes twenty twenty might have been 1716 01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:23.840 it takes two years. No, no, no, no, it takes 1717 01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:26.560 two years. I think was Reternal year, so it's the 1718 01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:27.800 year before twenty twenty. 1719 01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:30.199 I can't remember if it won, but anyway, it was. 1720 01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:33.399 It's Hades is undeniably a huge fucking game to where 1721 01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:35.399 it's like, look when that comes out, that's gonna be 1722 01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:37.880 a big hit no matter what. But other ones I 1723 01:21:38.079 --> 01:21:40.079 think you kind of mute the release by doing it 1724 01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:40.479 this way. 1725 01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:43.640 Oh wait, twenty twenty was the last of US Part two? 1726 01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:49.079 Is that the same year? Yeah? Yeah, I don't I 1727 01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:54.039 might be mixing up some uh you back at twenty twenty. 1728 01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:56.119 That sounds right, That sounds right? 1729 01:21:56.399 --> 01:22:02.840 Yeah, but yeah, no, I I It just depends on 1730 01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:05.239 the game for sure, because it does. Yeah, I don't 1731 01:22:05.239 --> 01:22:06.880 want touch Hades two and I don't want to go 1732 01:22:06.920 --> 01:22:08.920 back to Dark and Unde two until they potentially fix 1733 01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:12.920 some of my gripes. But what's the game I'm playing? 1734 01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:16.159 This's early access. I don't know, Towered de Mendion. They're 1735 01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:17.520 still working out a lot of it, but I'm still 1736 01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:19.479 playing that because the loops feels so solid to me. 1737 01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:23.840 Now oh they are Billions was technically like the early 1738 01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:25.720 access Forever and I played that so much because I 1739 01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:27.479 didn't give a shit about the single player campaign. I 1740 01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:31.840 just want to keep doing the endless survival mode. But yeah, 1741 01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:35.319 glad to hear. I want to try a Rogue prints 1742 01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:36.239 of Perga as well, because it. 1743 01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:38.119 So I just been a note for myself like that. 1744 01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:44.079 That sounds cool, speaking of maybe a similar game, shinoby Dan, 1745 01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:44.920 how's that going. 1746 01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:47.800 Oh fuck, I beat it a couple of days ago. 1747 01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:52.479 I have never played a Shnoby game before this, so 1748 01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:54.680 keep in mind anything I say about it has no 1749 01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:58.399 basis in nostologia at all. Somehow, despite being kind of 1750 01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:01.159 a Genesis kid, I never came across this game, and 1751 01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:02.159 then my friends ever had it. 1752 01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:03.399 I just never played this game. 1753 01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:08.920 Holy shit, every single thing you would want a game 1754 01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:11.800 like this to do, Like you know, two D style 1755 01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:13.079 ish ninja. 1756 01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:15.520 Game, Like it is kneeling like it's awesome, it's. 1757 01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:18.760 Fucking the art style incredible, Like the first area you're 1758 01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:20.800 running through is just so beautiful, and it's just one 1759 01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:25.439 after another of that, and the combat is any talk 1760 01:23:25.479 --> 01:23:27.640 about Prince of Persia, it reminds me of Lost Crown, 1761 01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:30.159 where it's like, boy, it's kind of just nailing everything. 1762 01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:32.479 Although Prince Persia didn't quite nail the art style or 1763 01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:35.199 the story, it was doing all these like combat and 1764 01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:39.159 platforming and boss fight stuff, so well, this is very 1765 01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:42.239 much that way. Like immediately, you know, you start with 1766 01:23:42.319 --> 01:23:45.239 the double jump, and you've got the kind of roll 1767 01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:47.159 on the ground that's the dash in the air, and 1768 01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:50.720 it's it's not it's not like fully Metroid Vanya and that. Like, 1769 01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:52.880 when I think of a traditional Metroid venia, it's like 1770 01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:54.680 you're probably playing for four or five hours before you 1771 01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:57.079 get that double jump or the air dash or something 1772 01:23:57.159 --> 01:23:58.800 like that. This one it's just like, no, you got 1773 01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:01.520 all that shit right away, and you are collecting stuff 1774 01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:03.760 as you go. You're getting all this like ninpoh magic 1775 01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:07.359 abilities and things like that, and really fucking cool traversal 1776 01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:09.760 stuff like the Ninja hook, which is this grappling hook 1777 01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:12.640 that feels great, or these claws that like certain walls 1778 01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:15.000 you can climb up and it resets your air dash 1779 01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:16.319 and double jump and all that stuff. 1780 01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:17.840 Animations are so crisp. 1781 01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:21.880 Oh my god, it looks incredible. It feels incredible. The 1782 01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:24.439 boss fights are so get's my favorite type of boss 1783 01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:26.239 fight where the first time you fight every one of them, 1784 01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:28.600 they just whoop your ass and then you kind of like, okay, 1785 01:24:28.680 --> 01:24:30.159 I get this, I get this. Oh here's how I 1786 01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:32.279 dodge this. Okay, And by the time you're three, four 1787 01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:34.439 or five times in, you're like, yeah, I can do this. 1788 01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:37.039 I know the pattern and you do and the way 1789 01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:39.279 even the style when you kill a boss fight and 1790 01:24:39.359 --> 01:24:41.359 it does this like just a bunch of symbols show 1791 01:24:41.399 --> 01:24:42.840 up on the screen. It goes, you know, kind of 1792 01:24:43.239 --> 01:24:45.800 monochromatic and everything, and it's just like I was like cheering, 1793 01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:48.439 like some boss fights, I would get that last killing. Yeah, 1794 01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:51.439 Like it's a little symbol pops up over enemies heads 1795 01:24:51.439 --> 01:24:53.439 when you can do an execution move, which is the 1796 01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:55.840 old LB and you hit RB and so like you 1797 01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:57.760 can do that with standard enemies too. So let's say 1798 01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:00.600 there's like three ninjas on the screen. You can kind 1799 01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:02.600 of get them all down low enough to where they've 1800 01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:04.640 got the execution thing and if three of them have 1801 01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:07.199 it and you hit the thing, you just kill all 1802 01:25:07.239 --> 01:25:10.359 of them, blood gold coming out of them. It just 1803 01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:14.720 feels so fucking cool every time it is. You unlock 1804 01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:17.760 a lot of different combat abilities and it never feels 1805 01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:19.640 overwhelming and that like, oh I forget how to do 1806 01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:22.039 this or whatever, Like you feel in control. So I 1807 01:25:22.239 --> 01:25:24.479 feel like I'm going to dash into here, I'm gonna 1808 01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:26.279 knock this guy up in the air, jump up, boom, 1809 01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:28.439 boom boom, do a little air combo, and then I'm 1810 01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:29.920 going to do a dive kick down ont of these 1811 01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:31.279 guys on the ground and then if I hold why 1812 01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:33.319 after the dive kick, I do this spinning thing that 1813 01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:35.039 chops them all up, and then I'll do my ninpo. 1814 01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:38.439 It's just it you feel like neo like in the Matrix, 1815 01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:41.239 like just like I am just nailing everything. I'm kicking 1816 01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:42.079 everyone's ass. 1817 01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:43.000 It is so great. 1818 01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:44.720 There's a shielded guy, so I know I'm going to 1819 01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:45.880 do the thing where I jump and I bring my 1820 01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:48.079 sword down on him that breaks shields, and then I'll 1821 01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:50.119 equip this ninpo and do the air thing like it's 1822 01:25:51.239 --> 01:25:55.279 it is tremendous and it is heavy on combat. It 1823 01:25:55.399 --> 01:25:57.119 being like this kind of like really kind of Ninja 1824 01:25:57.279 --> 01:25:59.760 Melee focus game, so like every time you get to 1825 01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:01.880 like it's not really an arena, but like there are 1826 01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:04.920 these like elite combat challenges where it's waves of enemies. 1827 01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:07.439 I fucking love that. And then once you're done with it, 1828 01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:10.520 it opens up a lot of these areas into Metroidvania. 1829 01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:14.680 So it's like it's not a full, big, sprawling Metroidvania, Matt. 1830 01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:17.279 A lot of these stages are just like it starts, 1831 01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:18.920 which is like a big path where it's kind of 1832 01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:22.039 linear combat challenges, and then a larger area that is 1833 01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:24.840 a Metroidvania, but it's very easy to kind of warp 1834 01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:27.119 between all these different checkpoints and everything warp between the 1835 01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:31.319 different stages, lots of fun collectibles and shit to get 1836 01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:33.319 lots of you know, things you can buy at the 1837 01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:37.000 stores for like new abilities, and it is, oh my god. 1838 01:26:37.159 --> 01:26:39.000 I I went in just being like, I guess I'll 1839 01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:41.520 try this, you know, assuming that I Ninja Guiden rage Bound, 1840 01:26:41.560 --> 01:26:43.920 which came out like a few weeks prior, that that 1841 01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:46.199 would be more of my thing, because that's also very good. 1842 01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:48.520 And I've also played like every Ninja Guiden game and 1843 01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:52.239 I love Ninja Guiden rage Bound is very very good. Shanobi, 1844 01:26:52.439 --> 01:26:55.880 I think definitely the better game, but it's so fucking cool. 1845 01:26:56.039 --> 01:26:59.079 These two kind of throwback Ninja games came out very 1846 01:26:59.119 --> 01:26:59.840 close proximity. 1847 01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:00.800 They both kick ass. 1848 01:27:01.079 --> 01:27:02.880 But like this, this is my pick. This will be 1849 01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:05.039 pretty high up on my game of the year. 1850 01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:09.319 I think, how do you upgrade your skills? And do 1851 01:27:09.399 --> 01:27:11.720 you get like choice like will my character be different 1852 01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:13.880 than yours or are you basically just upgrading things through 1853 01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:15.960 time Linearly you could make. 1854 01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:18.239 Choice on like certain like amulets, like there's a passive 1855 01:27:18.279 --> 01:27:20.439 amulet you can equip, and so it's like okay, so 1856 01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:23.760 I want this to be okay, healing is more effective, 1857 01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:26.079 or you can turn on this amulet that's like a 1858 01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:29.199 vampire where it's like enemies won't drop health, but as 1859 01:27:29.279 --> 01:27:32.239 you attack enemies, you will siphon their health. And then 1860 01:27:32.279 --> 01:27:34.399 there are like a combo amulet where it's like, okay, 1861 01:27:34.439 --> 01:27:37.399 after fifteen hits, all of my attacks do more damage, 1862 01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:40.279 or after this many hits, this ninpo has this added 1863 01:27:40.359 --> 01:27:42.960 ability and things like that, so you can equip certain 1864 01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:45.520 things to fit your play style certainly. And then like 1865 01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:49.039 you'll unlock like eight different ninpo like magic abilities, and 1866 01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:51.479 you can choose which face button to map it to, 1867 01:27:51.600 --> 01:27:53.800 because it's like hold LB and press a face button 1868 01:27:53.840 --> 01:27:56.239 to activate the ninpo and you can choose which ones 1869 01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:58.079 you want. So like, you know, you'll go into a 1870 01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:00.319 fight with certain shielded enemies and it's like we'll all 1871 01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:02.840 equip these two an inpos that are better for breaking armor. 1872 01:28:04.079 --> 01:28:06.159 This one builds my rage meter faster, so I could 1873 01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:08.439 do my super attack more. So there are different things 1874 01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:10.520 you can equip to make it more you know, fitting 1875 01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:12.760 of your play style for sure, but it's not it's 1876 01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:14.680 not full on, just like I'm creating a character and 1877 01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:17.159 you're a stealth build and I'm a whatever build. It's 1878 01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:22.359 not quite that level, but there is customization there. It's 1879 01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:25.359 it's tremendous. I went in just to be like, I'll 1880 01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:26.920 try it so I can talk about it on I'm 1881 01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:27.359 sure you. 1882 01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:28.359 Win, do you it? 1883 01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:29.279 I beat it? Yeah? 1884 01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:31.600 How long was the experience? 1885 01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:35.640 I got to probably like ninety five percent completion in 1886 01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:38.399 about twelve hours. And but in keep in mind, I 1887 01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:40.399 was trying to like kind of get everything. I was 1888 01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:42.479 gone one hundred percent, but there were like certain like 1889 01:28:42.520 --> 01:28:45.279 there were these like different rift challenges in every level 1890 01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:49.319 that are like really hard platforming challenges, and all. 1891 01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:51.479 Hard platforming challenges. 1892 01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:52.399 Is this for me? 1893 01:28:53.039 --> 01:28:55.279 Mary, you gotta try this and it is a tremendous 1894 01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:56.560 sho we swip swap. 1895 01:28:56.680 --> 01:28:58.840 Why don't you play Rogue Prints of Persia and I'll 1896 01:28:58.880 --> 01:28:59.680 play Schanovy. 1897 01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:01.520 I already want to play Rogue Prince of Persia. That 1898 01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:06.399 sounds both about Mary. You got to try Silk Song 1899 01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:08.119 and yeah, we'll talk next time. 1900 01:29:09.319 --> 01:29:12.560 I really like indie games. Prince of Persian isn't really 1901 01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:14.439 an indie game, so I'm kind of leaning toward Dance, 1902 01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:17.640 which is actually or now neither of you accomplished, but 1903 01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:19.880 it's developed by I'm. 1904 01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:22.560 Going to get into Warhammer and then teach how to play. 1905 01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:26.000 So you recommended a same game, you recommend a Ubi 1906 01:29:26.079 --> 01:29:27.920 Soft game. I don't know. I guess I'll stick to 1907 01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:30.319 Tower Dominion because that's indie the indies. 1908 01:29:30.399 --> 01:29:34.399 Yeah, I would love to hear what you think. Yeah, 1909 01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:37.840 because this this type of like super heavy action reflex 1910 01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:41.079 type game is not really like Bonxporte. But she's been 1911 01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:42.680 trying out because I've just been raving about it and 1912 01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:45.000 like bonks like ship Okay, Like she's really liking it too. 1913 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:47.960 What did you say bank was playing Rogue Prince of Persia? 1914 01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:48.800 What did they think about that? 1915 01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:50.439 I think she's uh. 1916 01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:53.039 I think she kind of got sidetracked. I don't want 1917 01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:54.680 to speak for her, but like she was talking about 1918 01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:56.880 that for a bit and then she started Shnobi and 1919 01:29:56.960 --> 01:30:00.560 then she got pretty into that and then well and 1920 01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:02.439 then actually that goes into the next thing that I 1921 01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:05.039 want to talk about is I've been watching her play 1922 01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:08.920 hell as Us because that is so I went to 1923 01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:11.399 that preview event in Montreal where I played like three 1924 01:30:11.439 --> 01:30:14.159 hours a bit and I left very intrigued with what 1925 01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:17.840 it was doing and it's the type of game. I 1926 01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:19.960 don't know if it's necessarily my type of game in 1927 01:30:20.079 --> 01:30:23.199 terms of like enjoying it, but I've been watching Bank 1928 01:30:23.279 --> 01:30:25.960 play it, and it's, uh I have a lot of 1929 01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:27.840 respect for this. Like, do you guys know anything about 1930 01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:29.479 like the approach this game. 1931 01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:31.800 You talked about it the preview on those oh after 1932 01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:35.279 the preview event, Yeah, where it's like no objective markers, 1933 01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:38.920 no anything like that. It's just like there's no question blog. Yeah. 1934 01:30:39.000 --> 01:30:41.159 And so it's like, again, my brain sucks, and so 1935 01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:44.079 like I would unless I was taking like elaborate notes 1936 01:30:44.119 --> 01:30:45.680 on everything, I probably would not be able to do it. 1937 01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:48.840 But Bonk has a great brain, and uh so I've 1938 01:30:48.840 --> 01:30:51.640 just been watching her play and it's just so cool 1939 01:30:51.640 --> 01:30:53.399 because you'll run into all these things where it's like, 1940 01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:56.199 why is this woman in a cave? I hear woman's 1941 01:30:56.279 --> 01:30:59.079 voice crying. She's obviously like in a terrible spot, like 1942 01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:00.840 in this cave. I need to find this woman, and 1943 01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:02.319 like you can't figure out how to get to her, 1944 01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:03.600 and so like you have to keep that in the 1945 01:31:03.640 --> 01:31:05.000 back of your head, like, Okay, if I can find 1946 01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:06.319 a way to get to this woman in the cave, 1947 01:31:06.319 --> 01:31:08.640 I gotta go back and save this woman. And then 1948 01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:11.359 you're meeting these groups and villages and stuff and trying 1949 01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:13.079 to find out where your dad is, and people are 1950 01:31:13.119 --> 01:31:15.760 giving you hand drawn maps and stuff because there's no 1951 01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:17.439 map you can go to, so it's just like you 1952 01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:20.039 have to pull up from your inventory, like here's a 1953 01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:22.880 scrap of a map of this village with arrows drawn 1954 01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:27.000 and like sharpie basically, And it really goes out of 1955 01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:30.399 its way to not explain these things or hold your 1956 01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:32.279 hand in any way, like a lot of games say 1957 01:31:32.319 --> 01:31:33.479 that where it's like, oh, we don'tant to hold your 1958 01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:35.880 hand and all this stuff. None of them have committed 1959 01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:40.560 to it in the way that this has. And you 1960 01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:44.439 can see the inspirations of Annihilation, the movie that I 1961 01:31:44.560 --> 01:31:48.840 think we all love. It's tonally it is so dark, 1962 01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:52.760 so creepy, so the music is incredible. The look of 1963 01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:56.600 the enemy is just like super otherworldly faceless husks with 1964 01:31:56.680 --> 01:31:58.840 these like geometry coming out of their chests that you 1965 01:31:58.920 --> 01:32:02.039 have to attack and everything. It's got this oppressive tone 1966 01:32:02.079 --> 01:32:04.880 that is really cool. But also I don't think it's 1967 01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:07.199 a gimmick what they're doing with the like no handholding stuff. 1968 01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:09.279 I think it is like a core part of what 1969 01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:11.319 makes this game special. And it has just been so 1970 01:32:11.439 --> 01:32:12.479 cool watching her play this. 1971 01:32:12.880 --> 01:32:15.000 So yeah, it's hard to describe. 1972 01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:17.239 It's not like you could look at it and be like, oh, 1973 01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:19.199 this this looks like a Soul's like type thing. But 1974 01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:21.760 it's like the developers have said, like, now, we're not 1975 01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:23.880 not really what we're looking for with the combat here. 1976 01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:25.720 It's not really a Souls like type thing. It's like 1977 01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:28.359 it is the no handholding, you find your own way 1978 01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:30.119 through it, which is the big hook here. 1979 01:32:30.479 --> 01:32:33.680 Hmm, it looks rad I want to very The preview 1980 01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:35.359 event sounded kind of up my alley. 1981 01:32:36.279 --> 01:32:38.399 I could see you liking it. Yeah, definitely. 1982 01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:40.439 I don't know. I like games that are like that, 1983 01:32:40.720 --> 01:32:43.439 Like unfortunately these days, I don't have as much time 1984 01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:48.199 for those kind of games. But I whatever they're doing 1985 01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:50.439 to your point, and it's like I respect the hell 1986 01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:52.840 out of it and kind of want to try them out. Yeah, 1987 01:32:52.840 --> 01:32:53.359 it's some funny. 1988 01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:56.479 It's like the most like oppressively dark game. And I've 1989 01:32:56.520 --> 01:32:58.119 been sitting on the couch next to the bank with 1990 01:32:58.199 --> 01:33:01.680 my switch to playing Chibi Robo like checking and be like, hey, 1991 01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:04.439 are these are these sound effects of this cutesy robot 1992 01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:07.359 game for GameCube? Is this a hurting the atmosphere of 1993 01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:09.880 hell is us? Doesn't bother? 1994 01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:11.439 How is cheety robo? 1995 01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:14.439 I'll just say this, and I said it on the BombCast. 1996 01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:18.039 But you know, we we sometimes hear these things of like, oh, 1997 01:33:18.079 --> 01:33:19.800 what's the game that you like everything it's doing, but 1998 01:33:20.039 --> 01:33:22.600 just like one little thing makes it that you can't 1999 01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:25.399 enjoy it. Yeah, this is maybe the most stark example 2000 01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:29.720 I've ever seen where it's the text speed of anybody 2001 01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:34.800 talking to you is glacial would be too generous. 2002 01:33:35.319 --> 01:33:39.560 It is just a we're where where where where? 2003 01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:41.680 And you can jam on every fucking button you want. 2004 01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:44.119 It is not going to go any fucking faster, and 2005 01:33:44.239 --> 01:33:46.720 you can accidentally start conversations, and you got to fucking 2006 01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:48.840 sit through this whole thing. And you walk into a 2007 01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:51.039 room and you're just looking forward to exploring and being 2008 01:33:51.039 --> 01:33:53.520 a cute little robot cleaning up some fucking things with 2009 01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:56.640 your toothbrush and finding collectibles and stuff like, oh, that'shit's great. 2010 01:33:56.840 --> 01:33:59.159 I love everything this game is doing, except for the 2011 01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:02.000 amount of times I just go into an area and 2012 01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:08.239 it's like, we're fucking please, I can read faster than this. 2013 01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:10.680 This is not adding anything for the game. It's just 2014 01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:11.720 making me hate. 2015 01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:13.279 You can't skip it. You can't. 2016 01:34:13.439 --> 01:34:15.479 You cannot skip it. Like I said this on the 2017 01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:17.039 BombCast and people are like, well, there's like a sixty 2018 01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:18.880 frames a second mod you can do on Dolphin if 2019 01:34:18.880 --> 01:34:20.760 you play in emulating. It was like, no, I want 2020 01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:22.399 to play this on my switch. I would look I 2021 01:34:22.760 --> 01:34:25.079 like emulating, I do Dolphin stuff. I want to just 2022 01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:27.159 sit and play. I was excited about this being on 2023 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:32.039 the switch online. It's it's like unforgivable, how insane like. 2024 01:34:32.039 --> 01:34:33.840 And there's this one spot I got to where I 2025 01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:35.840 just like put it down finally where it's like there's 2026 01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:38.479 this fucking duck crab thing and a basement and it's 2027 01:34:38.520 --> 01:34:40.960 like a fortune teller and it's like it's basically just 2028 01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:43.439 like a little minigame where it's like you can gamble 2029 01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:45.920 your moolah to see you is my eye going to 2030 01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:47.560 open or not? And it's like, all right, I gamble 2031 01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:50.319 one hundred mulah if you're it's a fifty to fifty gamble. 2032 01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:53.119 I swear to god. It felt like ten minutes. It's 2033 01:34:53.119 --> 01:34:55.880 probably not ten minutes. It's probably like three or four, 2034 01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:59.000 but just for text to go through a gambling minigame 2035 01:34:59.079 --> 01:35:04.800 of like to my eye, oh is my eye going 2036 01:35:05.520 --> 01:35:08.920 to o beIN? Will your money be? And so just 2037 01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:11.560 fucking let me do the thing. It's it's insane. It's 2038 01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:15.079 completely insane. It's a wonderful game, and every other way 2039 01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:17.680 it seems unplayable to me because of this fucking text thing. 2040 01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:19.079 What's the poor mechanic? 2041 01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:20.520 It's awesome. 2042 01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:23.119 It's like it's your tiny guy, big world. It's one 2043 01:35:23.119 --> 01:35:24.920 of my favorite type of the tropes. You're a little 2044 01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:27.640 cute robot. You're going around and it's just like weird 2045 01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:30.239 family and the wife hates to husband, and so you're 2046 01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:32.079 like standing on the table talking to her while she's 2047 01:35:32.079 --> 01:35:33.960 making her coffee about how she hates her husband. Then 2048 01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:36.039 you're talking to the lazy husband about stuff and he's like, 2049 01:35:36.079 --> 01:35:37.479 oh man, you got to clean up this place. 2050 01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:40.880 It takes too No, no, it's not better than no. 2051 01:35:41.119 --> 01:35:45.159 It's hanging out with a divorced couple and they're about. 2052 01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:46.560 To get divorced. I think they're about to get divorced, 2053 01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:49.880 but like, yeah, iving to go around. 2054 01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:50.159 I got it. 2055 01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:51.880 I' found a toothpressure now I can go clean up 2056 01:35:51.880 --> 01:35:54.079 all the little dog pop prints on the floor that 2057 01:35:54.159 --> 01:35:55.800 every day there's like a day night cycle and then 2058 01:35:55.880 --> 01:35:57.560 like the dog tracks mut in the house, I'm going 2059 01:35:57.600 --> 01:35:59.000 to clean it up and it makes a cute little 2060 01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:02.279 jingle and you get happy points when you clean up stuff. 2061 01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:04.000 And then you go back to your chiepy house and 2062 01:36:04.119 --> 01:36:08.560 your happy points. What's that happy points are separate from Moulah. Yeah, 2063 01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:11.479 Moulah's money happy point. And then you got the recyclotron 2064 01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:16.239 stuff recycle. Come on, I just wanted to clarify the 2065 01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:20.119 super It's I love everything this is doing. If this 2066 01:36:20.359 --> 01:36:22.560 just let me hit the molas that. 2067 01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:26.239 You can buy the happy points. Now the happy points, you. 2068 01:36:26.239 --> 01:36:28.159 Get the chip blast or you get the Chivy copter. 2069 01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:31.159 The secrets of the game is once you've been uh, 2070 01:36:32.279 --> 01:36:34.640 once you've just evolved into living in a shack near 2071 01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:38.439 the beach with no Mulah, your happy points sore. Oh wow. 2072 01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:42.359 That's the truth is that you don't need Molah to 2073 01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:43.159 have happy. 2074 01:36:43.039 --> 01:36:44.479 Just finish that show yesterday again. 2075 01:36:45.880 --> 01:36:49.039 It's I love everything about this game except for the 2076 01:36:49.159 --> 01:36:51.479 one stupid thing that makes it unplayable. You just passed 2077 01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:53.439 it in to let me hit a to speed through something. 2078 01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:54.479 I'm gonna love that game. 2079 01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:55.600 That's unfortunate. 2080 01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:56.399 It sucks. 2081 01:36:56.479 --> 01:36:58.920 Yeah, and the game doesn't suck, but that element is 2082 01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:00.439 just like unforgive to me. 2083 01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:06.880 Uh does the text scroll real slowly in Gears on 2084 01:37:07.079 --> 01:37:11.960 PS five? No? Well, but did they still slow you down? Yeah? 2085 01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:12.239 It does. 2086 01:37:12.279 --> 01:37:16.399 That's associated with Gears for sure. It's not that bad 2087 01:37:16.439 --> 01:37:16.960 in the first one. 2088 01:37:17.039 --> 01:37:19.800 Really, the first game is still fun. Yeah. 2089 01:37:19.800 --> 01:37:21.399 I'm just playing through it with Kaila again. I know, 2090 01:37:21.439 --> 01:37:23.239 I've talked about it when me and Kayla went through 2091 01:37:23.279 --> 01:37:25.239 all of the numbered ones a year or two ago. 2092 01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:26.560 Doing it again. 2093 01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:29.560 It's on PlayStation, you know, it's basically just the novelty 2094 01:37:29.600 --> 01:37:32.159 of like, wow, I'm I'm holding the PlayStation controller and 2095 01:37:32.199 --> 01:37:34.760 playing Gears Award. That's crazy, isn't it? Because that's about 2096 01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:37.680 as much of an Xbox branded things like Halo. You know, 2097 01:37:39.039 --> 01:37:42.000 I do think that again, after playing through so much 2098 01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:43.600 Gears in the last couple of years, I think it's 2099 01:37:43.720 --> 01:37:46.880 kind of the series from that era that has aged 2100 01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:50.000 the best. You know, it was good, it was very 2101 01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:52.520 good when it came out, but you play it now 2102 01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:54.520 and like, this is the first Gears and it's not 2103 01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:58.479 like it's like it's not really any different outside of like, oh, 2104 01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:00.479 it's like, you know, the frames per second or whatever 2105 01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:02.600 from the last remake that did a couple of years 2106 01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:05.560 ago or maybe longer than that now. But again, it's 2107 01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:07.159 not like they rebuilt this from the ground up. It's 2108 01:38:07.159 --> 01:38:08.920 pretty much the same game it was in two thousand 2109 01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:11.479 and six, and it's still fucking fun. Like you're Mary, 2110 01:38:11.520 --> 01:38:13.319 I know it has a special place in your heart. 2111 01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:16.880 It holds up, like you know, I don't even have. 2112 01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:19.640 Like I wasn't a huge Gears guy when they came out. 2113 01:38:19.680 --> 01:38:22.119 I respected them, I reviewed them highly and stuff like that, 2114 01:38:22.680 --> 01:38:24.680 but like I wasn't like talking about it a lot, 2115 01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:27.520 But like I think I appreciate Gears more now that 2116 01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:29.920 I've played through them all again recently. Or shit, this 2117 01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:32.159 holds up. It's just a good game. Like I'd rather 2118 01:38:32.199 --> 01:38:34.560 play through the Gears series now than Halo, and Halo's 2119 01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:37.239 also a great series, but I don't know, Gears hold up. 2120 01:38:37.479 --> 01:38:40.119 Gears was funny. It was like pretty cheeky, and I 2121 01:38:40.199 --> 01:38:44.119 think it had like really decided characters, right, Like it 2122 01:38:44.159 --> 01:38:47.159 had really thoughtful characters that were interacting with each other. 2123 01:38:47.239 --> 01:38:49.000 I thought it was like watching a movie. I just 2124 01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:53.439 thought it was so fun and interesting Gears obviously, like 2125 01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:56.800 I am biased. Gears was like my introduction to games, 2126 01:38:56.960 --> 01:38:59.199 so like I'll always be obsessed with Gears. 2127 01:39:00.159 --> 01:39:02.800 Might be like the George Washington head on the Mount 2128 01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:05.319 Rushmore of co op games too. You know, it's just 2129 01:39:05.399 --> 01:39:07.479 like it was a game that was made for co op. 2130 01:39:08.119 --> 01:39:10.239 Obviously it's a good game if you played solo, but 2131 01:39:10.359 --> 01:39:12.520 like it is meant to play with a friend or 2132 01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:13.880 later on several friends. 2133 01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:17.359 You know that makes sense. Well, I'm jealous. I want 2134 01:39:17.399 --> 01:39:21.000 to play through it with somebody, with somebody maybe on 2135 01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:30.800 this podcast, maybe whose name rhymes with Dart for Harty Mike. 2136 01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:34.640 Mike Mike and Dart Fight. 2137 01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:39.520 I think, if you think about it, those rhyme No, no, 2138 01:39:41.399 --> 01:39:41.600 are we. 2139 01:39:41.640 --> 01:39:42.560 Playing Gears for? 2140 01:39:43.600 --> 01:39:44.239 I would like to. 2141 01:39:44.479 --> 01:39:44.800 I'll play. 2142 01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:47.119 I just forgot how to rhyme? 2143 01:39:47.600 --> 01:39:51.840 Yeah, me too. I got Billy crapp and it will 2144 01:39:51.840 --> 01:39:52.640 help you out next time. 2145 01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:55.119 Oh we love Billy crapping in here? 2146 01:39:55.720 --> 01:39:56.720 Is your name not Mart? 2147 01:39:57.520 --> 01:39:57.560 No? 2148 01:39:58.640 --> 01:40:00.520 I think old time? 2149 01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:05.000 Is that why you've called me Mart since you're mad man? 2150 01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:06.359 I thought that was your intern name. 2151 01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:09.039 Oh that's Mart Maharty. That'd be sick. 2152 01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:10.760 I love Mart. 2153 01:40:11.680 --> 01:40:14.039 I was supposed to be a donna. Did I ever 2154 01:40:14.199 --> 01:40:18.119 told you this? Yeah? Yeah, I haven't told you that 2155 01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:19.680 because I just made it up, so I know, I 2156 01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:20.239 was just playing a lot. 2157 01:40:20.279 --> 01:40:21.000 I was yes andding you. 2158 01:40:21.079 --> 01:40:22.600 When's the last time you played? I don't I don't 2159 01:40:22.640 --> 01:40:25.079 have time for improv what when's the last time you played? Uh? 2160 01:40:25.239 --> 01:40:26.520 Replayed Halo? Any of them? 2161 01:40:27.680 --> 01:40:32.039 Me and Bank played through Halo one and two in 2162 01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:37.600 two thousand and seventeen, and uh they were Uh it 2163 01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:39.479 was very fun. Again, it's it's a great co op game. 2164 01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:40.800 We're sitting on the couch next to each other. 2165 01:40:41.239 --> 01:40:41.760 It was great. 2166 01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:44.279 I'm curious, like I do want to do that with 2167 01:40:44.399 --> 01:40:47.039 Kayla once you're done with this, because like Kayla never 2168 01:40:47.119 --> 01:40:49.119 had Xboxes or anything, so like this has been her 2169 01:40:49.159 --> 01:40:50.840 first time three years so fresh. 2170 01:40:51.119 --> 01:40:53.279 Yeah, it's nice for the first time. 2171 01:40:54.039 --> 01:40:57.159 Yeah, So I'm curiously you know, Halo very iconic as well, 2172 01:40:58.640 --> 01:40:59.920 and I wonder like if they ever do like my 2173 01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:01.840 ster Chief collection on PlayStation or something, that'd be the 2174 01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:03.800 great way to get her in because like she hated 2175 01:41:03.880 --> 01:41:06.720 having to sign up for game Pass and you know, 2176 01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:08.880 turn on an Xbox to play Gears. So we'll see 2177 01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:09.680 if I can get her to do Halo. 2178 01:41:10.039 --> 01:41:14.640 I missed that older that that era of Xbox was awesome, Halo, 2179 01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:17.800 all the fucking one off games that were fun as hell, 2180 01:41:17.960 --> 01:41:20.520 like what do you? What are you done? Phil? 2181 01:41:21.520 --> 01:41:24.600 They know you can kind of blame before down for 2182 01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:27.920 a lot of the people. Yeah, stuff that had impacts 2183 01:41:27.960 --> 01:41:29.840 for a long time to go. Yeah, but yeah, that 2184 01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:32.800 three sixty is like I don't know, if I'm naming 2185 01:41:33.159 --> 01:41:35.399 top game consoles of all time, i'd put three sixty 2186 01:41:35.439 --> 01:41:40.439 maybe right behind PS two by its games or yeah, 2187 01:41:40.479 --> 01:41:42.560 I mean, but also like I don't know, like it 2188 01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:46.079 did a lot back then of like XBLA was industry changing. 2189 01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:48.279 Where's all of a sudden you're downloading these little games? 2190 01:41:48.319 --> 01:41:50.520 This is before Like I'm sure there were maybe examples 2191 01:41:50.560 --> 01:41:52.119 on Steam of like indie games and stuff like that, 2192 01:41:52.239 --> 01:41:54.359 but I feel like people like the Geometry, Wars Is 2193 01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:56.159 of the World and those type of things that that 2194 01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:59.920 people were getting big on Braid Braid, Yeah, that Summer 2195 01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:03.279 Arcade type stuff achievements, Like there was just a lot 2196 01:42:03.319 --> 01:42:05.640 of like Xbox Live, you know, like I know the 2197 01:42:05.680 --> 01:42:09.239 original Xbox kind of introduced it, but like three sixties 2198 01:42:09.239 --> 01:42:12.119 were really blew up. Like three sixty is my first 2199 01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:14.279 experience really getting into online games. 2200 01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:16.640 Also, fucking love that the UI. It was just like 2201 01:42:16.760 --> 01:42:19.439 the tab Manila Manila folders that you flipped through. I 2202 01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:22.399 ironically loved that. Yeah, well the blades were azy. Yeah, 2203 01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:24.640 they were styled that for Manila folders. You realize that, right, 2204 01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:25.520 Like they didn't invent that. 2205 01:42:26.680 --> 01:42:28.560 I didn't think about the men folder thing, but that 2206 01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:28.920 makes sense. 2207 01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:31.000 Yeah, but it's folder tabs that they invented in like 2208 01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:31.520 the twenties. 2209 01:42:31.680 --> 01:42:33.159 Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that's why. 2210 01:42:33.279 --> 01:42:35.159 Yeah, it was cool, Like you know what all these 2211 01:42:35.159 --> 01:42:38.600 features had in common. They were centered around the games, 2212 01:42:39.079 --> 01:42:42.239 and I feel like Xbox kind of lost sight of 2213 01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:44.840 games for a while, Like, oh, it was the one 2214 01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:48.479 input for all of your ht my devices. Yeah yeah, ough, 2215 01:42:49.279 --> 01:42:51.319 I missed those days. But yeah, I'd play Gears again, Mary, 2216 01:42:51.399 --> 01:42:53.279 I like, uh, I like those games quite a bit. 2217 01:42:53.720 --> 01:42:56.159 Gears two as a special place my heart with Horde 2218 01:42:56.199 --> 01:42:57.920 mode over the holidays, my brothers. 2219 01:42:58.479 --> 01:42:59.960 I think we'd have a lot of fun. I think 2220 01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:03.479 we should. I think we should consider it deeply and 2221 01:43:03.840 --> 01:43:06.399 that would be really fun. Fu Calin I just. 2222 01:43:06.439 --> 01:43:10.000 Beat Judgment together and like even that's it's good. 2223 01:43:10.199 --> 01:43:11.960 That game is amazing. I love that game that was 2224 01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:17.520 rad that the book People Can Fly bullet Storm. M hm, 2225 01:43:17.680 --> 01:43:18.399 I love that game. 2226 01:43:19.319 --> 01:43:20.680 All right, let's do it Mart. 2227 01:43:21.439 --> 01:43:24.840 Do you want to You want to talk about emails? 2228 01:43:26.239 --> 01:43:26.600 Prairie? 2229 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.439 Okay? As usually, you can write into fire Escape cast 2230 01:43:31.520 --> 01:43:36.479 at gmail dot com questions, comments, concerns. We will read 2231 01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:40.760 all the good questions on each episode. Get that inbox 2232 01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:44.880 filled up. That's firescape cast at gmail dot com. Uh, married, 2233 01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:46.279 do you want to read this? First? One? From Wes, 2234 01:43:46.359 --> 01:43:48.720 who has written in many times. 2235 01:43:49.720 --> 01:43:52.880 Hey, y'all, what is a movie that you love despite 2236 01:43:52.920 --> 01:43:56.920 it being objectively stupid? Other than mcgruber, I'm partial to 2237 01:43:57.159 --> 01:43:59.279 the other guys. Thanks Wes from Baltimore. 2238 01:44:01.199 --> 01:44:04.239 I mean, so, I logged into my letterbox here when 2239 01:44:04.239 --> 01:44:06.359 I saw that, and I'm like, okay, do I sort 2240 01:44:06.439 --> 01:44:08.319 by five stars or one. 2241 01:44:08.279 --> 01:44:10.720 Star here or something? And then I realized, that's like 2242 01:44:10.880 --> 01:44:14.680 a lot of my taste in movies stars, I'm telling 2243 01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:15.960 you is even. 2244 01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:22.239 Like even Rocky four is an objectively stupid movie, but 2245 01:44:22.319 --> 01:44:24.560 I also un ironically fucking love it. 2246 01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:30.159 You know, four is objectively stupid. I mean have I 2247 01:44:30.359 --> 01:44:32.840 I always have been a way bigger Rocky fan than you, 2248 01:44:32.960 --> 01:44:33.600 So I guess. 2249 01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:38.920 There we go, yeah, no, it's it's stupid. I think 2250 01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:42.159 that's fine to say it's stupid. It's stupid, it's stupid. 2251 01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:46.079 But mcgruber is like a special stupid where it's like 2252 01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:49.560 it's it's so fucking dumb, it's trying to know how 2253 01:44:49.680 --> 01:44:51.600 it's trying to be stupid. Yeah, I think. 2254 01:44:51.520 --> 01:44:54.520 It's like stupid, fucking go for it. We're doing too 2255 01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:57.359 much cocaine and steroids. We gotta get it. We need 2256 01:44:57.399 --> 01:45:00.560 an outlet for it. Objectively stupid. For me, my number 2257 01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:03.600 one movie is probably What Hot American Summer. They're they're 2258 01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:06.840 camp yeah, for sure that The humor is like they're 2259 01:45:06.920 --> 01:45:10.239 trying to be dumb. Like some of the jokes are 2260 01:45:11.880 --> 01:45:14.840 dumb because they come out of nowhere and make absolutely 2261 01:45:14.880 --> 01:45:19.239 no sense. Paul Redd will say like fuck you and 2262 01:45:19.319 --> 01:45:21.039 then be like my butt itch is when he's talking 2263 01:45:21.039 --> 01:45:24.159 to his girlfriend out of nowhere, and then say I'm kidding, 2264 01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:27.000 I love you. I'm gonna fart my way into that snatches. 2265 01:45:29.279 --> 01:45:31.840 Oh my God. His entrance in the prequel series the 2266 01:45:31.880 --> 01:45:35.239 sequel series when he's riding the bike down through the 2267 01:45:35.319 --> 01:45:37.960 woods and then he arrives and he doesn't stop it. 2268 01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:40.800 He just leaps off the back while it's still careening 2269 01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:43.520 toward Lake and then just instead of apologizing for being late, 2270 01:45:43.600 --> 01:45:49.119 he just announces, I'm late the wee hot it's probably mine. 2271 01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:52.880 I think we have to pay homage to Walk Hard, 2272 01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:57.520 the Dewey Cox story. That's my quotes that all the time, 2273 01:45:58.319 --> 01:45:59.800 full like it. 2274 01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:02.119 It is nailing what it's going for where it's like 2275 01:46:02.199 --> 01:46:03.960 there is a different camp. It's like Mike brought up 2276 01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:06.439 Hard ticket to why that is dumb as fuck? But 2277 01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:08.680 it's like, I mean, not that I thought it was 2278 01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:11.560 making high art or anything, but it wasn't this brilliant 2279 01:46:11.640 --> 01:46:14.560 stupidity that like you know, Amu Gruber or a walk 2280 01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:17.880 Hard you know, or like we mentioned face face off earlier, 2281 01:46:18.159 --> 01:46:20.600 face off is fucking stupid. We're cutting our faces off 2282 01:46:20.640 --> 01:46:23.640 and switching them. But it's played super straight face and everything, 2283 01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:24.600 and I super love it. 2284 01:46:24.840 --> 01:46:27.359 Like I don't know enough about the backstory. Does John 2285 01:46:27.439 --> 01:46:29.479 Wu know his movies. 2286 01:46:29.319 --> 01:46:32.840 Are John's John Wu? From everything I've heard about the 2287 01:46:32.840 --> 01:46:35.840 making that movie was pretty straight faced about it, and 2288 01:46:36.119 --> 01:46:38.600 like like even just dumb things about like them having 2289 01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:40.600 each other's voices and be like, oh, yeah, well it's 2290 01:46:40.600 --> 01:46:43.039 the microchip and they switch microchips and they have each other. 2291 01:46:43.159 --> 01:46:46.119 It was like, oh okay, yeah yeah, So like I 2292 01:46:46.159 --> 01:46:48.560 think there's an earnestness to face off, which makes it 2293 01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:49.359 so great to me. 2294 01:46:50.119 --> 01:46:53.399 Uh, what was the other movie that just came up? Uh, 2295 01:46:53.920 --> 01:46:56.640 stupid ones that are like the Starship Troopers the original 2296 01:46:56.680 --> 01:46:59.479 one was like pretty stupid, but that's actually like that's 2297 01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:03.439 like that's no, that's almost the reverse, where like it's people. 2298 01:47:03.319 --> 01:47:07.000 Think it's stupid, but it's actually pretty smart. Yeah, Rebo cop, Yes, 2299 01:47:07.119 --> 01:47:08.680 it is subversive satire. 2300 01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:13.000 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, symbolisms. 2301 01:47:14.479 --> 01:47:16.479 Oh the film students coming out. 2302 01:47:17.720 --> 01:47:23.079 Tropic Thunder is like very funny and stupid, probably dangerous 2303 01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:25.079 by today's standards. 2304 01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:30.560 But I was surgical, like it wasn't actual black pop star. 2305 01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:35.000 Pop Star is fucking great. I mean Naked Gun. Naked 2306 01:47:35.079 --> 01:47:37.039 Gun is gleefully dumb as hell. 2307 01:47:37.279 --> 01:47:39.119 I mean there's no question. I mean you might as 2308 01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:42.520 well say Airplane, right, Like those are like stupid movies 2309 01:47:42.600 --> 01:47:44.039 that are so good at what they're. 2310 01:47:43.920 --> 01:47:45.880 Trying to do, and that's things like I think a 2311 01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:47.960 lot of comedies fall into that. But I think there 2312 01:47:48.119 --> 01:47:50.239 there's a certain breed of like like I go back 2313 01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:51.640 to face off, Like I think that is a movie 2314 01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:54.840 that is not sold as a comedy. We're sold as 2315 01:47:54.880 --> 01:47:55.439 a stupid thing. 2316 01:47:55.520 --> 01:47:58.920 It's maybe it's not trying to be sane, yeah, yeah. 2317 01:47:58.760 --> 01:48:00.439 But it is stupid as fuck. 2318 01:48:01.279 --> 01:48:02.000 It is stupid. 2319 01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:04.319 Yeah, because if you had asked me recently or a 2320 01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:06.399 couple of years ago, I would have said The Warriors. 2321 01:48:06.439 --> 01:48:08.600 But rewatching it, I'm actually just convinced that movie is 2322 01:48:08.640 --> 01:48:12.479 coole as fuck. Yeah, there's parts of it are stupid, 2323 01:48:12.840 --> 01:48:17.720 but it's just rad. But yeah, it's i'd say wet hot. 2324 01:48:17.760 --> 01:48:21.359 It's probably MiNet. 2325 01:48:21.039 --> 01:48:26.680 Hotshots part due I love game movies that are like 2326 01:48:26.760 --> 01:48:29.600 playing off of like an entire I know, I know. 2327 01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:33.319 You know, Uh, here's a here's a movie, here's a show. 2328 01:48:33.560 --> 01:48:36.079 Rather that's not at all trying to be stupid, but 2329 01:48:36.199 --> 01:48:39.520 it's pretty fucking stupid. Is Drops of God on Apple TV. 2330 01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:43.800 It's about wine. Uh, this this dude who's like this 2331 01:48:43.960 --> 01:48:47.680 dude who is like a taste maker in the wine industry, 2332 01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:52.399 like global tastemaker dies has this like one of the 2333 01:48:52.439 --> 01:48:54.800 most incredible wine sellers in the world, and also like 2334 01:48:54.920 --> 01:48:57.239 the rights to this book almanac kind of thing, or 2335 01:48:57.520 --> 01:49:00.319 that he's trying to encyclopedia that he's like potentially leaving 2336 01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:03.319 to his daughter, but he also had a protege, this 2337 01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:05.760 Japanese protege, and it's based on a manga which is 2338 01:49:05.880 --> 01:49:09.000 really good, but they adapted it into a bunch of 2339 01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:12.279 like white people and it's a very different story. Where 2340 01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:15.880 the father dies and he puts his daughter and his 2341 01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:18.720 protege up to this test to see whether they can 2342 01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:22.560 like blind taste this series of wines. And it's fun 2343 01:49:22.600 --> 01:49:24.840 if you're a wine geek. But it's also so fucking 2344 01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:28.199 stupid that, like that is how he's deciding who gets 2345 01:49:28.239 --> 01:49:30.479 his fortune. If you watch the whole show, there's there 2346 01:49:30.560 --> 01:49:32.560 is some backstory to why he's doing it, but it's 2347 01:49:32.600 --> 01:49:36.279 still fucking stupid. But I still love it. That's probably 2348 01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:39.239 a better answer than the other ones. My other ones, 2349 01:49:40.159 --> 01:49:41.600 the whole Fast and Furious series. 2350 01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:44.960 Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, right, Like they're so fucking stupid, 2351 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:46.960 but like they play the whole thing like very straight. 2352 01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:52.520 They're not stupid. They're about family, a family. Sorry, yeah, 2353 01:49:52.560 --> 01:49:55.720 it's about loyalty. Oh I guess I'm just gonna quit 2354 01:49:55.760 --> 01:49:57.960 fire Escape Cast tomorrow and that'll be stupid. 2355 01:49:58.439 --> 01:50:00.359 No, okay, I apologize, I'm sorry. 2356 01:50:00.560 --> 01:50:03.720 Oh I guess you're just gonna stop being friends of me, 2357 01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:06.159 and that'll be stupid. We're can talk about it off 2358 01:50:06.159 --> 01:50:08.760 the year. It's fine, maybe we will. 2359 01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:13.119 I have I have won more based on the sincere 2360 01:50:13.479 --> 01:50:15.439 shows that I think are trying to be sincere, that 2361 01:50:15.520 --> 01:50:17.720 I think are so stupid that I have to bring 2362 01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:20.640 a new one up that just I think. This just 2363 01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:24.840 launched on Netflix, and this might be too weird for 2364 01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:27.359 you too. I'm still going to try and sell you 2365 01:50:27.439 --> 01:50:30.680 on it. It's called Samurai Gourmet. 2366 01:50:31.199 --> 01:50:32.319 Way, how do you already watch it? 2367 01:50:33.039 --> 01:50:36.920 No? Way? No, I didn't, you got me? 2368 01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:37.600 Okay? It is. 2369 01:50:39.640 --> 01:50:42.600 It is a show about a professional chef from the 2370 01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:46.640 year twenty twenty five who gets sucked back into time 2371 01:50:47.359 --> 01:50:52.600 to like a very earlier era when they have like 2372 01:50:52.840 --> 01:50:56.399 showguns and shit like that, and they're like torturing people 2373 01:50:56.560 --> 01:51:00.000 and killing people, and they capture her and she keeps 2374 01:51:00.239 --> 01:51:04.199 impressing people with her awesome cooking and every time she 2375 01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:09.199 makes something, they're like, uh, they're like mind's explode and 2376 01:51:09.239 --> 01:51:11.560 they're like, how did you do this? And she's like, oh, 2377 01:51:12.159 --> 01:51:13.720 it's msg because it. 2378 01:51:13.760 --> 01:51:16.560 Hasn't been invented yet, and so people are freaking out 2379 01:51:16.720 --> 01:51:20.199 over her food and it keeps saving her life because 2380 01:51:20.359 --> 01:51:23.239 like she's in all these horrible situations where she's probably 2381 01:51:23.239 --> 01:51:26.159 should be like tortured or killed or worse for women 2382 01:51:26.239 --> 01:51:28.199 back then, and there's all these like really fucked up 2383 01:51:28.199 --> 01:51:30.239 scenes where they're like cut off their arms until all 2384 01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:31.840 these people are like freaking. 2385 01:51:31.560 --> 01:51:34.319 Out, and then there they'll almost kill her, and she'll 2386 01:51:34.359 --> 01:51:37.319 be like, let me cook one dish for you, and 2387 01:51:37.359 --> 01:51:39.600 then she'll win over the guy and he'll be like, 2388 01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:40.359 you can live. 2389 01:51:40.520 --> 01:51:43.399 And it keeps happening every episode. The show should not 2390 01:51:43.520 --> 01:51:47.239 be good, and by many standards it's not good, but. 2391 01:51:47.319 --> 01:51:51.359 I can't stop watching it because every time she cooks, 2392 01:51:51.720 --> 01:51:54.319 she'll be like, they don't know this cooking method for me, 2393 01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:57.520 but I do. And she'll like she has like fucking 2394 01:51:57.640 --> 01:52:00.560 like Gochu Chang in her pocket and she's putting it 2395 01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:02.840 out and she's making them bibb and bobs. She's invent 2396 01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:06.640 she's she's serving them dishes that they've never heard of. 2397 01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:08.119 You know you. 2398 01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:10.840 I've thought about that time travel stuff a lot, where 2399 01:52:10.880 --> 01:52:12.720 it's like, oh, if you went back with a adult 2400 01:52:12.840 --> 01:52:15.760 rifle or you went back with an iPhone or something, 2401 01:52:15.960 --> 01:52:18.000 they would be like, this is crazy. This is awesome, 2402 01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:20.640 but like food wise, like I don't know if I 2403 01:52:20.680 --> 01:52:23.239 brought back a thing of like super chunk peanut butter, yeah, 2404 01:52:23.359 --> 01:52:24.960 they'd be like, this is fucking crazy. 2405 01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:27.600 It's insane. He's not how does he How did he 2406 01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:28.000 make this? 2407 01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:28.359 Yes? 2408 01:52:28.439 --> 01:52:31.279 And she like keeps doing it. She like, uh, she 2409 01:52:31.439 --> 01:52:34.640 keeps using French cooking methods, which obviously they're not familiar with. 2410 01:52:34.720 --> 01:52:36.920 They don't even know what that is. And they're like 2411 01:52:37.640 --> 01:52:40.720 their minds keep getting blown by the things that she's inventing. 2412 01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:44.319 But it's also like poorly done in the sense that 2413 01:52:44.479 --> 01:52:47.560 like this is almost silly. They're trying to put a 2414 01:52:47.800 --> 01:52:50.560 romance in there. It is a joke. 2415 01:52:50.720 --> 01:52:53.119 The first episode is hard to get through, and I 2416 01:52:53.239 --> 01:52:54.920 know people who like watch this will be like, how 2417 01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:55.800 did Mary watch this? 2418 01:52:55.880 --> 01:52:58.279 And I'm telling you, I actually skipped some of the 2419 01:52:58.319 --> 01:53:00.239 first episode and got to the part where she actually 2420 01:53:00.279 --> 01:53:04.119 starts cooking, and that shit is so good. People freak 2421 01:53:04.199 --> 01:53:06.039 out when they taste her cooking. 2422 01:53:07.199 --> 01:53:09.359 What this is an interesting concept. It's like, what do 2423 01:53:09.479 --> 01:53:11.039 you think if you went back because like. 2424 01:53:11.119 --> 01:53:12.640 Yeah, I don't know what it was the dream of 2425 01:53:12.680 --> 01:53:13.399 a child. 2426 01:53:13.600 --> 01:53:16.359 Yeah, medieval times. They're probably just like I don't know, 2427 01:53:16.479 --> 01:53:18.399 eating the leg of a cow. And I don't know, 2428 01:53:18.399 --> 01:53:20.039 I hate they had fire or whatever how they hated 2429 01:53:20.039 --> 01:53:22.039 it up or whatever. But like imagine if you brought 2430 01:53:22.479 --> 01:53:26.800 a no that fire. I know, I just the cooking situation. 2431 01:53:26.920 --> 01:53:29.880 I don't know. But like, let's say with all the chemicals. 2432 01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:32.960 Yeah, we have like insane like chemicals and shit, and 2433 01:53:33.079 --> 01:53:35.479 like our palettes are so you know whatever. Now I 2434 01:53:35.560 --> 01:53:39.520 bring you beer, like in like a cacity from Taco Bell. 2435 01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:42.279 What year are we talking about? Let me say fifteen hundreds? 2436 01:53:42.319 --> 01:53:43.279 What are Castle Times? 2437 01:53:43.399 --> 01:53:46.399 Beer was invunded in like two thousand BC. I hate 2438 01:53:46.439 --> 01:53:46.720 to tell you. 2439 01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:49.439 Oh, let's just go to Castle Times and we bring 2440 01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:52.800 them a case from Taco Bell. I'm not surprised for McDonald's. 2441 01:53:52.800 --> 01:53:53.680 Do their heads explode? 2442 01:53:54.840 --> 01:53:57.000 Yeah? I think so. That's Nick Swartzon's joke. He's like, 2443 01:53:57.000 --> 01:53:59.680 we've gotten so jaded with movies. We see the first Transformers, 2444 01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:01.520 We're like fucking sucked. He's like, can you imagine if 2445 01:54:01.560 --> 01:54:04.479 you showed the Transformers in a nineteen fifties theater, he'd 2446 01:54:04.520 --> 01:54:09.039 be like, ah, start stabbing each other. Or the first 2447 01:54:09.079 --> 01:54:11.359 people who saw a movie with the trains coming at them. 2448 01:54:11.439 --> 01:54:14.520 Chris Funming has that joke. He's like, he's like, there's 2449 01:54:14.520 --> 01:54:18.039 a reason Timothy Shellman has to play Willy Wonka now, 2450 01:54:18.159 --> 01:54:20.960 because the fucking Gene Wilder and four K would be 2451 01:54:21.079 --> 01:54:23.520 like the first train coming at people in that movie Theater. 2452 01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:26.319 That's a separate thing. There's a movie from the show 2453 01:54:26.359 --> 01:54:28.840 from the nineties, late nineties, early two thousands that was 2454 01:54:28.880 --> 01:54:31.760 short lived, I believe, called Doover. It was basically about 2455 01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:35.920 a kid or sorry, a suburban dad who gets sucked 2456 01:54:35.960 --> 01:54:39.119 back into his high school years with but like with 2457 01:54:39.239 --> 01:54:42.039 the mind of his feet yourself. So he's got a 2458 01:54:42.119 --> 01:54:44.279 talent show coming up that apparently he biffed when he 2459 01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:48.840 was young, so he decides to play good Ridden's Time 2460 01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:50.760 of Your Life by Green Day and everybody's like, oh, 2461 01:54:52.520 --> 01:54:54.600 this is the best thing ever. And then it comes 2462 01:54:54.680 --> 01:54:56.279 time for the actual show and he does the moral 2463 01:54:56.359 --> 01:54:58.399 thing and does the song that he wrote and he 2464 01:54:58.520 --> 01:55:01.880 loses it, but he did the right thing. Like there's 2465 01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:03.760 that video game coming out where it's like, what if 2466 01:55:03.840 --> 01:55:06.760 like six dudes had assault rifles that helm's deep or something. 2467 01:55:07.840 --> 01:55:09.399 Oh, oh yeah, the one where we have the car 2468 01:55:09.479 --> 01:55:12.239 and you're running over all the like nights. 2469 01:55:12.079 --> 01:55:14.199 Like could you win the Battle of Hayese things with 2470 01:55:14.439 --> 01:55:23.199 like a sniper rifle. I exactly, No, I'm not asking you. 2471 01:55:23.560 --> 01:55:25.279 I'm just saying like, yeah, you could scare them, but 2472 01:55:26.439 --> 01:55:31.399 I would I feel as if it's gotta be some 2473 01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:34.119 like advanced cooking technique that would really blow people's mind, 2474 01:55:34.159 --> 01:55:35.640 like a case of DIA. I don't think people in 2475 01:55:35.640 --> 01:55:37.159 the middle of the people in the Middle Ages would 2476 01:55:37.159 --> 01:55:39.000 not know what like a flat top grill is. 2477 01:55:39.159 --> 01:55:40.640 No, I'm just saying that they just bit into it, 2478 01:55:40.800 --> 01:55:42.840 like we're just the flavor of it, just being so 2479 01:55:42.960 --> 01:55:45.800 insane with the chemicals and everything. The buck is this 2480 01:55:45.880 --> 01:55:46.720 would even be good. 2481 01:55:47.399 --> 01:55:48.720 They've literally not been invented yet. 2482 01:55:48.760 --> 01:55:51.359 Yeah, candy would be so cool as well. And this 2483 01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:53.159 is like the kind of thing where you're skirting the 2484 01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:55.119 rules a little bit where I could like take back 2485 01:55:55.279 --> 01:55:57.720 a giant bag of gumballs and I would like hide 2486 01:55:57.760 --> 01:55:59.399 them so that no one would know where I got them. 2487 01:55:59.439 --> 01:56:01.520 But I would sell people these gumballs and they'd be like, 2488 01:56:01.880 --> 01:56:03.800 how the fuck did you make this? And I'd be like, 2489 01:56:03.960 --> 01:56:07.720 I'm not telling you, but you can have these gumballs 2490 01:56:08.079 --> 01:56:11.479 for ten dollars. And I would just like rob these 2491 01:56:11.520 --> 01:56:14.159 people because they would have no idea. It's so funny too. 2492 01:56:14.199 --> 01:56:16.239 Whenever I have this fantasy, which I have a lot of, 2493 01:56:16.359 --> 01:56:19.039 like you know, gumballs or wine, I never think to 2494 01:56:19.159 --> 01:56:22.119 like bring back medicine and say people's lives. I'm always like, man, 2495 01:56:22.199 --> 01:56:24.239 I bring back fucking whiskey and skittles. 2496 01:56:24.720 --> 01:56:25.279 Gumballs. 2497 01:56:26.159 --> 01:56:29.000 Dude, if you lived in Castle Times and someone gave 2498 01:56:29.039 --> 01:56:31.319 you whiskey and skittles, they would be your new god. 2499 01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:34.079 You would be queen of the manner. 2500 01:56:34.640 --> 01:56:39.399 I could have brought back it would cure smallpox. But anyway, 2501 01:56:40.039 --> 01:56:42.399 here's how you make beer skittles. 2502 01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:45.439 Oh, get some wildberry skittles and some Jack Daniels. 2503 01:56:45.479 --> 01:56:48.000 Hell yeah, Mary could go back to the very dock 2504 01:56:48.159 --> 01:56:51.840 where the first rats with bubonic plague stepped ashore, and 2505 01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:55.159 she could know and see them scurrying into the city, 2506 01:56:55.199 --> 01:56:57.479 and instead of telling them kill those rats, she'd say, 2507 01:56:58.159 --> 01:56:59.880 I have gumball. 2508 01:57:01.640 --> 01:57:04.079 Would Castle people like gumballs. 2509 01:57:04.199 --> 01:57:05.159 Ten bucks apiece? 2510 01:57:05.560 --> 01:57:06.960 I don't know, like, would they want. 2511 01:57:06.800 --> 01:57:09.880 To be are we skipping too many like evolutions of 2512 01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:13.359 food or would somebody bite into like a Dorito's in 2513 01:57:13.520 --> 01:57:15.520 the Castle Times and would they just be like what 2514 01:57:15.600 --> 01:57:16.000 the fuck? 2515 01:57:16.159 --> 01:57:18.720 Like affected to the point where it wouldn't even make 2516 01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:19.439 sense as food. 2517 01:57:20.159 --> 01:57:22.840 Yeah, it's just like this doesn't Yeah, Gerald just eating 2518 01:57:22.920 --> 01:57:25.680 like fucking celery and cows or whatever. 2519 01:57:25.760 --> 01:57:25.960 You know. 2520 01:57:26.960 --> 01:57:29.159 I have to make an important correction. I got the 2521 01:57:29.239 --> 01:57:30.399 name of the Netflix show wrong. 2522 01:57:31.079 --> 01:57:31.439 What is it? 2523 01:57:32.079 --> 01:57:35.079 It's called Bone Appetite, Your Majesty. 2524 01:57:37.159 --> 01:57:39.880 Much better. I looked up Samurai Gourmet. I was like, 2525 01:57:39.960 --> 01:57:40.840 this looks different. 2526 01:57:41.119 --> 01:57:45.239 Listen. I googled Lady Goes Back in Time Samurai Food 2527 01:57:45.399 --> 01:57:48.840 and I did the first response, and it was Samurai Gourmet. 2528 01:57:49.399 --> 01:57:52.640 It is not right. It is Bone Appetite, Your Majesty. 2529 01:57:52.760 --> 01:57:54.800 How did you find this in the first place. I 2530 01:57:55.479 --> 01:57:58.600 don't Alien Earth AutoPlay after an episode. 2531 01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:02.399 I thought it was Alien Earth episode five. 2532 01:58:04.479 --> 01:58:07.439 Yeah, actually sounds kind of serious and good. 2533 01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:10.680 I don't think that that is what I recommended at all. 2534 01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:14.960 I'm recommending Bone Appetite, Your Majesty, a very stupid show 2535 01:58:15.119 --> 01:58:18.920 about a girl who gets sucked back into time, but 2536 01:58:19.079 --> 01:58:21.680 because she is like a world renowned chef, she keeps 2537 01:58:22.039 --> 01:58:25.520 pleasing all of these evil tyrants with her cooking to 2538 01:58:25.720 --> 01:58:26.600 save her life. 2539 01:58:27.399 --> 01:58:29.920 Now that doesn't make me think like if tonight I 2540 01:58:30.239 --> 01:58:31.840 got a little too drunk and I woke up in 2541 01:58:31.960 --> 01:58:35.039 Castle Times. What would my play be? Because like, I'm 2542 01:58:35.079 --> 01:58:38.079 not a I'm not a gourmet chef, So. 2543 01:58:38.159 --> 01:58:43.680 Like, what is the thing ability to like platform don't 2544 01:58:43.680 --> 01:58:43.920 give a. 2545 01:58:43.880 --> 01:58:50.960 Shit about my thoughts on fucking shinobi? Can I do 2546 01:58:51.199 --> 01:58:52.359 to keep people from killing me? 2547 01:58:52.479 --> 01:58:55.319 They would put your head on a spike with four minutes. 2548 01:58:55.359 --> 01:58:57.680 There's gotta be something I could show them. I gotta 2549 01:58:57.720 --> 01:59:00.760 skip a rock across a lake or something that that's 2550 01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:01.119 a good. 2551 01:59:03.239 --> 01:59:05.199 No, have they figured that out? 2552 01:59:06.159 --> 01:59:06.880 I can sometimes do. 2553 01:59:09.239 --> 01:59:14.960 Yeah, they didn't have that tech yet. Is I don't 2554 01:59:14.960 --> 01:59:16.920 know if the zoom is picking that mic is blowing into. 2555 01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:19.439 His finger, brushing your teeth, they probably didn't know how 2556 01:59:19.479 --> 01:59:20.319 to do that very well. 2557 01:59:20.520 --> 01:59:22.640 I can't look Let's say I show up terminator style 2558 01:59:22.680 --> 01:59:25.640 and I'm just naked, all right, and I can't just 2559 01:59:25.720 --> 01:59:28.520 like I don't have tooth paste with me, So like, 2560 01:59:28.640 --> 01:59:31.479 what can I show them with my knowledge from twenty 2561 01:59:31.520 --> 01:59:32.039 twenty five? 2562 01:59:32.720 --> 01:59:33.760 If I just show up naked? 2563 01:59:34.119 --> 01:59:36.039 They have no concept of mental health. You could be 2564 01:59:36.079 --> 01:59:36.960 a psychiatrist. 2565 01:59:38.560 --> 01:59:41.079 No, I think meditation goes back like you have. 2566 01:59:41.560 --> 01:59:44.800 Repeat you're the first person to meditate. 2567 01:59:45.479 --> 01:59:48.680 I don't think so meditation Castle Time here. 2568 01:59:48.640 --> 01:59:51.479 That you can do. Pop them a few of your uh, 2569 01:59:51.960 --> 01:59:54.680 you're well bututrin, and then in three weeks they're going 2570 01:59:54.720 --> 01:59:58.439 to feel amazing and they're no. No pop up your 2571 01:59:58.479 --> 02:00:00.520 viance once a day, and then in three they're gonna 2572 02:00:00.520 --> 02:00:03.319 be no germinator style. I'm asked, naked, I got happen 2573 02:00:03.399 --> 02:00:04.159 with me naked? 2574 02:00:05.319 --> 02:00:07.760 What What do I have to offer to castle people? 2575 02:00:09.680 --> 02:00:11.199 What can I possibly teach them? 2576 02:00:11.640 --> 02:00:12.039 You don't. 2577 02:00:14.840 --> 02:00:19.199 I don't know why whying us to solve your existential crisis? 2578 02:00:19.439 --> 02:00:20.119 You've got nothing? 2579 02:00:20.560 --> 02:00:23.000 Can I teach them something about eclipses? Can I teach 2580 02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:26.319 them something about a phenomenon they don't understand that I 2581 02:00:26.399 --> 02:00:26.800 can like. 2582 02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:29.199 Be like, oh, we know this about eclipses right now. 2583 02:00:30.000 --> 02:00:31.960 That every once in a while, based on the axis 2584 02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:33.880 and the rotation of the Earth around the Sun, that 2585 02:00:33.960 --> 02:00:36.479 sometimes things get dark because this moon's in between the 2586 02:00:36.520 --> 02:00:37.119 Sun and the earth. 2587 02:00:37.960 --> 02:00:41.680 Burned like a witch, you're gonna be spell really good 2588 02:00:41.880 --> 02:00:44.760 and they're gonna hang you outside the walls. 2589 02:00:45.239 --> 02:00:46.600 I need provable ship. 2590 02:00:46.760 --> 02:00:50.039 I can't just explain an eclipse with my late person's knowledge, 2591 02:00:50.119 --> 02:00:51.600 Like what can I bring to them? 2592 02:00:51.760 --> 02:00:55.399 Eclipses were first documented in thirty three forty BC in. 2593 02:00:55.920 --> 02:00:58.640 When do people start meditating? Also, that's kind of a 2594 02:00:58.680 --> 02:01:01.239 hard thing if you go there's a long time ago. 2595 02:01:01.920 --> 02:01:04.479 Oh I got one, I got one. What you know 2596 02:01:04.760 --> 02:01:07.760 all modern music? You could just sing all of our 2597 02:01:07.840 --> 02:01:09.960 modern tunes and people will be like, oh my god, 2598 02:01:10.039 --> 02:01:11.159 he's such a good bard. 2599 02:01:11.920 --> 02:01:14.199 Wait what would Dan be like? I'm just gonna sing 2600 02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:19.279 Beatles songs to him to the Paradise City. Yeah, everyone, 2601 02:01:19.359 --> 02:01:22.239 I love it, like a monk version of every song 2602 02:01:22.279 --> 02:01:22.680 he knows. 2603 02:01:23.119 --> 02:01:32.359 Everyone gathered around, do you remember it? Like nobody king? Yeah, 2604 02:01:32.399 --> 02:01:34.479 and they're like, this is amazing. This guy just keeps 2605 02:01:34.520 --> 02:01:37.279 coming out with bangery hold to night. 2606 02:01:38.159 --> 02:01:40.960 I don't let you gold. 2607 02:01:42.319 --> 02:01:46.159 I mean that maybe the best option we have so far. 2608 02:01:46.439 --> 02:01:49.399 I'm trying to save your ass, and it's all I. 2609 02:01:50.920 --> 02:01:51.279 Has to be. 2610 02:01:51.800 --> 02:01:55.359 I can't bring back flip your eyelids inside out and 2611 02:01:55.439 --> 02:01:56.800 then and look at them and blink. 2612 02:01:57.039 --> 02:01:58.399 They've killed anything but a demon. 2613 02:01:58.680 --> 02:02:00.840 Yeah, that's true. They think you're even for singing any 2614 02:02:00.840 --> 02:02:01.880 of the songs we was mentioned too. 2615 02:02:02.119 --> 02:02:04.159 Again, it has to be knowledge that you already have. 2616 02:02:04.399 --> 02:02:07.600 So like this lady, she has like a really good 2617 02:02:08.279 --> 02:02:11.560 modern view of cooking, which is really helpful. 2618 02:02:11.640 --> 02:02:13.960 Oh, make them my tie. But they wouldn't have They 2619 02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:19.439 wouldn't have any shot. Learn to make it. They might 2620 02:02:19.479 --> 02:02:20.079 have almonds. 2621 02:02:20.680 --> 02:02:22.520 I'm gonna make or shot. I don't know how that works. 2622 02:02:23.640 --> 02:02:24.199 It his hour. 2623 02:02:24.720 --> 02:02:27.319 He doesn't know how to infuse. Mike, this is yes, 2624 02:02:28.439 --> 02:02:28.680 I know. 2625 02:02:28.760 --> 02:02:29.920 It's almond a Jason. 2626 02:02:30.039 --> 02:02:33.239 That's not gonna help his first tomato like two weeks ago. 2627 02:02:33.520 --> 02:02:35.239 He's got really in. 2628 02:02:35.640 --> 02:02:37.760 Living at twenty twenty five. I have nothing I could 2629 02:02:37.800 --> 02:02:41.319 prove to people in the fifteen hundreds that would impress them, 2630 02:02:41.359 --> 02:02:41.960 even just. 2631 02:02:42.039 --> 02:02:44.239 Sleep with a gun. So if this happens, you have 2632 02:02:44.359 --> 02:02:45.359 a gun, No. 2633 02:02:45.680 --> 02:02:50.560 It's terminator rules. I'm making your as I'm sucking itears 2634 02:02:50.600 --> 02:02:53.520 out your ass if your time travel, its terminator rules. 2635 02:02:53.319 --> 02:02:54.359 Around popping pills up. 2636 02:02:54.359 --> 02:02:59.119 People can't know that terminator did not have anything up 2637 02:02:59.159 --> 02:02:59.520 his ass. 2638 02:03:00.159 --> 02:03:04.359 Beer bongs you can't know. Oh, you can start boof 2639 02:03:04.399 --> 02:03:06.039 and drink. Show how much quicker that is? 2640 02:03:06.479 --> 02:03:08.239 Hey, you don't know, Marilyn Monroe. But let me tell 2641 02:03:08.239 --> 02:03:08.680 you a thing. 2642 02:03:09.359 --> 02:03:10.640 Let mean, let's boof some me. 2643 02:03:11.399 --> 02:03:13.239 You could invent somepositories. 2644 02:03:13.720 --> 02:03:16.359 Ie, I'm actually trying to think of something right now. 2645 02:03:16.600 --> 02:03:20.680 I don't think I happen anything. YouTube, do you guys 2646 02:03:20.720 --> 02:03:26.520 have anything you could like because they know how to 2647 02:03:26.600 --> 02:03:31.000 start fire, starting fire than you. 2648 02:03:33.000 --> 02:03:37.479 Uh maybe like modern fashion. I feel like their fashion 2649 02:03:37.600 --> 02:03:39.319 is all outdated, and i'd be I don't. 2650 02:03:39.159 --> 02:03:41.399 Think they would care, right, They just like you're weird. 2651 02:03:41.600 --> 02:03:44.439 I think if we saw a future fashion from eight 2652 02:03:44.560 --> 02:03:45.199 hundred years. 2653 02:03:45.079 --> 02:03:48.239 In the fortune we were, is there anything that like 2654 02:03:48.319 --> 02:03:50.479 an injury or something that we would know, like, oh, 2655 02:03:50.560 --> 02:03:50.960 here's how. 2656 02:03:50.920 --> 02:03:54.960 You pick that up real quick high like maneuver kying 2657 02:03:55.039 --> 02:03:57.119 on someone who gets stung by a jellyfish. 2658 02:03:57.520 --> 02:04:01.640 Oh yeah, if you're coasting so specific, so they're circling 2659 02:04:01.680 --> 02:04:04.239 around you, you just time traveled under their field. They 2660 02:04:04.359 --> 02:04:06.720 got their fucking pitchforks out and they're like, we're gonna 2661 02:04:06.800 --> 02:04:09.039 kill this guy. Like wait, watch this. You can't just 2662 02:04:09.119 --> 02:04:10.399 like summon a jellyfision piece. 2663 02:04:10.439 --> 02:04:12.000 See let me see, let me see when was Heiml 2664 02:04:12.039 --> 02:04:12.800 like maneuver inventors. 2665 02:04:12.800 --> 02:04:15.159 Well, she doesn't get to do that either. They she 2666 02:04:15.319 --> 02:04:18.359 has to be like put me in a kitchen. What 2667 02:04:18.439 --> 02:04:20.640 were people doing before the seventies dying? 2668 02:04:21.640 --> 02:04:26.239 Do that? You fucking someone's chewing on some some cow 2669 02:04:26.479 --> 02:04:29.399 cud and you fucking jam there. 2670 02:04:29.560 --> 02:04:32.479 Again, that's such a specific thing, like you can't just 2671 02:04:32.560 --> 02:04:34.439 manufacture that moment make up. 2672 02:04:34.800 --> 02:04:37.239 I would be like, take me to your leader and 2673 02:04:37.279 --> 02:04:39.439 I'm gonna do the sickest cat eye. 2674 02:04:39.359 --> 02:04:45.239 On that pitch. Good men and women from the Middle Ages, 2675 02:04:45.279 --> 02:04:47.000 Mary we're talking about. 2676 02:04:47.399 --> 02:04:49.479 I'm just saying I think I could win them over 2677 02:04:49.640 --> 02:04:52.479 with modern makeup techniques. I bet you they don't know 2678 02:04:52.680 --> 02:04:54.199 anything about making. 2679 02:04:54.399 --> 02:04:57.720 You could puke on command. I think people back then 2680 02:04:57.760 --> 02:05:00.720 could do it, like, hey, guys, yeah, go he's come. 2681 02:05:01.079 --> 02:05:05.119 You could God, what the fuck? Wow? 2682 02:05:05.479 --> 02:05:08.079 How much cheese you can eat? I literally just gave 2683 02:05:08.199 --> 02:05:08.800 three for me. 2684 02:05:09.119 --> 02:05:12.279 You were definitely they were jacking off back then for sure. 2685 02:05:12.720 --> 02:05:15.199 Oh like in every which way. 2686 02:05:15.479 --> 02:05:17.920 Could you imagine going back in time being like, did 2687 02:05:17.960 --> 02:05:19.880 you guys not know that you could do this and 2688 02:05:20.039 --> 02:05:21.359 just whip it out and start. 2689 02:05:22.640 --> 02:05:24.680 Everyone came to that naturally. 2690 02:05:28.399 --> 02:05:29.640 Nobody knew how to do it. 2691 02:05:32.840 --> 02:05:34.159 They know how to do it this way. 2692 02:05:36.399 --> 02:05:39.520 You invent the Comma Sutra, or you're just like, but 2693 02:05:39.640 --> 02:05:41.840 they don't know how to do it backwards and you 2694 02:05:41.880 --> 02:05:43.399 could sex positions. 2695 02:05:43.640 --> 02:05:47.199 Yeah stuff, I thought they were doing crazy ship. 2696 02:05:47.920 --> 02:05:49.880 Probably they had nothing better to do. It was dark 2697 02:05:50.000 --> 02:05:50.520 all the time. 2698 02:05:50.840 --> 02:05:53.760 I don't think we have anything to offer it was dark. 2699 02:05:56.119 --> 02:05:58.239 I don't really yeah, really, I don't think he's so. 2700 02:05:58.239 --> 02:06:02.000 I'm saying, we you don't have anything but marry yours 2701 02:06:02.119 --> 02:06:03.720 is all like you got to be near a jellyfish 2702 02:06:03.760 --> 02:06:05.800 and have to pee or something like. It's not that 2703 02:06:06.000 --> 02:06:07.439 that's something you can just do in the moment. 2704 02:06:07.720 --> 02:06:10.840 That's the argument. The bonup a teat your majesty. She's 2705 02:06:10.880 --> 02:06:13.640 a cook, so she has to get herself in a kitchen, 2706 02:06:13.720 --> 02:06:15.960 and once she's in the kitchen, she uses all their old, 2707 02:06:16.039 --> 02:06:20.720 tiny materials and she uses her modern mind to invent 2708 02:06:20.840 --> 02:06:22.399 new techniques that they haven't heard. 2709 02:06:22.239 --> 02:06:25.199 Of, makeup stuff she doesn't like land. 2710 02:06:25.399 --> 02:06:28.279 Actually she does land with like a little pocket of 2711 02:06:28.319 --> 02:06:30.680 GoChi jung. But like for the rest of the episodes, 2712 02:06:31.039 --> 02:06:33.960 she's thinking of stuff she can make that they don't 2713 02:06:34.079 --> 02:06:36.439 know you could do it yet. But she has to 2714 02:06:36.520 --> 02:06:39.399 use their kitchen, so i'd be like, you don't know 2715 02:06:39.439 --> 02:06:42.600 how to do that milk oh invent? 2716 02:06:42.760 --> 02:06:44.520 I don't know. Figure it out if you're the one 2717 02:06:44.560 --> 02:06:45.640 that is happening. 2718 02:06:45.800 --> 02:06:47.640 Do they have vinegar and baking soda? Can you make 2719 02:06:47.680 --> 02:06:48.920 a vinegar and baking soda Mountain? 2720 02:06:49.159 --> 02:06:52.760 Do they have mentos and diet coke or die Cooke. 2721 02:06:52.800 --> 02:06:55.199 I don't think that's my favorite. Wha wait wait wait 2722 02:06:55.199 --> 02:06:57.960 wait wait wait wait, Dan, we have not talked about 2723 02:06:58.159 --> 02:06:59.720 the best instigral. 2724 02:07:00.199 --> 02:07:02.359 I do, Mike, You and I have the dumbest back 2725 02:07:02.399 --> 02:07:03.720 and forth Instagram dms. 2726 02:07:03.960 --> 02:07:06.119 Oh ship. I should have brought what's his name? 2727 02:07:07.520 --> 02:07:10.760 The gulf between what you post on Instagram mic and 2728 02:07:10.840 --> 02:07:13.800 what you send me just it's just nothing but like 2729 02:07:13.960 --> 02:07:16.319 wine stuff send me. 2730 02:07:18.439 --> 02:07:20.840 Ship. But the stuff I send to you, I'll find it. 2731 02:07:20.960 --> 02:07:22.399 Where's the last time I talked to dam? 2732 02:07:22.840 --> 02:07:25.439 You can't, I can't. I cannot believe. I can't think 2733 02:07:25.479 --> 02:07:28.359 of I legitimately can't think of something good. I could 2734 02:07:28.399 --> 02:07:31.600 teach them to make them think I was like a prophet. 2735 02:07:34.560 --> 02:07:41.159 Oh here he is what's his name on Instagram? Underscore? 2736 02:07:41.479 --> 02:07:42.439 Never DM me anything? 2737 02:07:42.640 --> 02:07:44.039 Oh sorry, I'll sign it to you right now. 2738 02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:50.439 Mike sends me dog memes a lot I do. 2739 02:07:50.640 --> 02:07:53.720 Yeah, I get my favorite no no ma underscore and 2740 02:07:54.239 --> 02:08:01.359 uh he just he sings like it's it's Korean pop songs, 2741 02:08:01.520 --> 02:08:04.399 while he does like dumb shit with mentos and diet 2742 02:08:04.439 --> 02:08:09.239 coke and water melons and or. 2743 02:08:09.359 --> 02:08:11.680 For the video listeners, Mike is holding up his phone. 2744 02:08:11.760 --> 02:08:12.399 Here is a man. 2745 02:08:12.680 --> 02:08:14.800 That is Uh, it's really good. 2746 02:08:16.039 --> 02:08:16.880 You can tell it's great. 2747 02:08:17.199 --> 02:08:20.439 There's always this, he's really good. I don't know, like 2748 02:08:20.520 --> 02:08:22.079 if you don't have your phone or anything, I don't 2749 02:08:22.079 --> 02:08:22.920 know what show them. 2750 02:08:23.520 --> 02:08:25.359 Guys are obviously going to die. 2751 02:08:26.800 --> 02:08:30.000 Fine, I'd make them some sick medieval cocktails or something. 2752 02:08:30.760 --> 02:08:32.359 Thank you so much. Wes from Baltimore. 2753 02:08:32.399 --> 02:08:33.119 Oh yeah, thank you, Wes. 2754 02:08:33.920 --> 02:08:43.279 Uh three other times we know this time yeah, hey gang. 2755 02:08:43.439 --> 02:08:45.079 The first time I played Ori and the Blind Forest, 2756 02:08:45.119 --> 02:08:47.039 I thought the spirit shrines were bonus challenges, so I 2757 02:08:47.119 --> 02:08:49.800 never bothered with them, meaning I never had more than 2758 02:08:49.880 --> 02:08:52.479 three shard slots. It took some doing, but I beat 2759 02:08:52.479 --> 02:08:55.239 the whole game with just those three slots. When have 2760 02:08:55.359 --> 02:08:57.199 you brute forced your way through a game playing it? 2761 02:08:57.319 --> 02:09:00.960 Quote unquote wrong from Hillary and Virginia PS. I also 2762 02:09:01.119 --> 02:09:03.840 never ate a tadpole in Balder's Gate three. I did 2763 02:09:03.920 --> 02:09:09.399 that last one. I never ate a tadpole. I similar 2764 02:09:09.520 --> 02:09:15.079 we were talking about in like there Billions, Uh, Tower 2765 02:09:15.159 --> 02:09:20.319 Dominion I really dis and Civilization six and seven. I 2766 02:09:20.439 --> 02:09:22.560 do not. I try my best not to restart, even 2767 02:09:22.600 --> 02:09:24.359 if I know the tiles are not going to lead 2768 02:09:24.359 --> 02:09:28.279 to a win. The early the starting positions. That is 2769 02:09:28.359 --> 02:09:29.840 kind of my way of brute forcing, but that's also 2770 02:09:30.000 --> 02:09:32.720 kind of my way of like just enjoying the game 2771 02:09:32.800 --> 02:09:34.760 for what it is and not knowing that the run's 2772 02:09:34.840 --> 02:09:38.359 not going to be ideal. Same with Bilatro, I rarely wiped. 2773 02:09:38.520 --> 02:09:40.439 I just wanted to see the run through until I died, 2774 02:09:40.479 --> 02:09:44.039 see what happened, even though I could tell pretty early 2775 02:09:44.119 --> 02:09:45.199 on that it wasn't gonna be a good one. 2776 02:09:46.720 --> 02:09:48.600 I think mine is probably just, you know, just fight 2777 02:09:48.640 --> 02:09:50.399 how much I love Metal Year and everything, like I 2778 02:09:50.520 --> 02:09:53.239 just suck as stealth and like I will very quickly 2779 02:09:53.279 --> 02:09:55.840 abandon it. And just like through Delta, I was just 2780 02:09:55.920 --> 02:09:57.840 like shotgunning my way through a lot of it. You know, 2781 02:09:58.399 --> 02:09:59.399 I did the wrong way. 2782 02:09:59.680 --> 02:10:03.600 I did the complete never alert any person in Dishonored 2783 02:10:03.640 --> 02:10:05.159 two run, which is one of the hardest things I've 2784 02:10:05.199 --> 02:10:07.199 done in a game. I love stealth games like I 2785 02:10:07.319 --> 02:10:12.600 played when possible, I play stealth, but like Dishonner two, 2786 02:10:12.720 --> 02:10:16.319 no alerts was very tough, a lot of restarts to 2787 02:10:16.399 --> 02:10:20.479 be clear. But I also Rob Hamley and I at 2788 02:10:20.520 --> 02:10:25.039 GameSpot did the what we call it Gravehoppers Permo Death's Show, 2789 02:10:25.840 --> 02:10:29.039 which is fun and uh, I forget I went away 2790 02:10:29.119 --> 02:10:31.520 on some vacation or work trip and then someone subbed 2791 02:10:31.560 --> 02:10:34.359 for me and ruined my resume before play through. Forget 2792 02:10:34.439 --> 02:10:37.720 I forget who it was. But yeah, anyone for those 2793 02:10:37.760 --> 02:10:39.680 who don't know, I still think that the idea is 2794 02:10:39.720 --> 02:10:41.600 really good. I just wish we had done it more. 2795 02:10:41.920 --> 02:10:44.760 But uh, some somebody at GameSpot thought it was a 2796 02:10:44.800 --> 02:10:49.119 bad idea above us. But Peter, Peter, yeah, Peter browns 2797 02:10:49.159 --> 02:10:53.800 like mix this right now, ye yo man, oh yeah, 2798 02:10:53.920 --> 02:10:56.159 we applied permo death to every single game we're playing. 2799 02:10:56.279 --> 02:10:59.279 So we started with I forget what, we start with 2800 02:11:00.159 --> 02:11:01.880 the last of us, and then as soon on the 2801 02:11:01.920 --> 02:11:04.039 hardest difficulty and as soon as you die, you switch 2802 02:11:04.119 --> 02:11:05.880 the next game because it's perman death. So you could 2803 02:11:05.920 --> 02:11:08.600 go through six games in one episode, or you could 2804 02:11:08.600 --> 02:11:12.079 be playing one game like Resume four for eight episodes 2805 02:11:12.119 --> 02:11:13.960 until someone subs in for you and gets killed by 2806 02:11:14.000 --> 02:11:15.039 the first chainsaw person. 2807 02:11:15.319 --> 02:11:16.920 Peter Brown, Yeah, uh. 2808 02:11:17.479 --> 02:11:21.640 This was a very stressful experience for me personally, to 2809 02:11:21.800 --> 02:11:25.600 jump into somebody else's game midway right when a chainsaw 2810 02:11:25.720 --> 02:11:29.399 guy appears and they are just like, don't let Mike's 2811 02:11:29.479 --> 02:11:34.279 character die, And I'm sorry that I couldn't figure it out. 2812 02:11:34.319 --> 02:11:36.640 But I got you. The video was funny because you're like, 2813 02:11:36.680 --> 02:11:39.920 oh my god, he's gonna be pissed. I go, I 2814 02:11:39.960 --> 02:11:42.640 forgot why what game even jumped to? But yeah, I'd 2815 02:11:42.680 --> 02:11:45.239 say that's the most common one. I like it inserting 2816 02:11:45.359 --> 02:11:48.000 perman death into games where it technically doesn't exist. I 2817 02:11:48.079 --> 02:11:50.479 do that, Jake, and I did that in break Point 2818 02:11:50.560 --> 02:11:52.479 for a bit on the harder difficulty that was fun. 2819 02:11:53.000 --> 02:11:55.439 Never died, something like a Mario or something that'd be fun. 2820 02:11:55.640 --> 02:11:56.239 Make it harder. 2821 02:11:56.439 --> 02:12:02.439 I accidentally made Tunic very difficult. That game. You start 2822 02:12:02.600 --> 02:12:04.760 with nothing, and I think eventually you get a stick 2823 02:12:05.319 --> 02:12:10.000 so you can hit certain enemies with and you're just 2824 02:12:10.000 --> 02:12:11.960 supposed to go to an area where you find a sword. 2825 02:12:12.239 --> 02:12:15.840 And for whatever reason, I did not find this sword, 2826 02:12:16.359 --> 02:12:18.640 and I thought that the game was challenging me to 2827 02:12:18.720 --> 02:12:25.560 get through the first area with a stick and you're 2828 02:12:25.600 --> 02:12:28.039 not supposed to. There is an area where there's grass 2829 02:12:28.079 --> 02:12:29.920 that you can't I think there's bushes and you can't 2830 02:12:29.960 --> 02:12:32.319 get through them because you cannot slash a bush with 2831 02:12:32.479 --> 02:12:36.399 a stick. You need the sword to get through these bushes. 2832 02:12:36.720 --> 02:12:40.880 But what I learned was if enemies, if I get 2833 02:12:40.920 --> 02:12:44.560 them to charge me and they slash. They could slash 2834 02:12:44.600 --> 02:12:47.319 through the bushes, and so I got the enemies to 2835 02:12:47.399 --> 02:12:49.239 slash the bushes, which got me into an area I 2836 02:12:49.239 --> 02:12:52.039 should not have gotten to with just a stick, and 2837 02:12:52.199 --> 02:12:57.199 I did an entire cave section with a boss with 2838 02:12:57.399 --> 02:13:01.800 a stick. It took forever. It was so hard to 2839 02:13:01.880 --> 02:13:03.960 kill this boss with a stick because it probably did 2840 02:13:04.079 --> 02:13:09.439 like zero point one damage, and I died all the time, 2841 02:13:09.520 --> 02:13:10.880 and I had to keep coming back and be like, 2842 02:13:10.920 --> 02:13:13.520 why do they make this game so fucking hard? And 2843 02:13:13.640 --> 02:13:16.880 then after I beat the boss and got back around 2844 02:13:16.960 --> 02:13:20.279 to it, I saw the sword at the very entry level. 2845 02:13:20.520 --> 02:13:23.520 So I did early game, like, you know, maybe a 2846 02:13:23.600 --> 02:13:27.680 tenth of that game with the wrong fucking weapon, and that. 2847 02:13:27.760 --> 02:13:31.079 Combat is not forgiving anyway, you know, even if you 2848 02:13:31.119 --> 02:13:31.800 have the right weapon. 2849 02:13:32.920 --> 02:13:36.399 It was a bad start to that game for Mary, 2850 02:13:36.720 --> 02:13:38.000 But it was my fault. 2851 02:13:38.640 --> 02:13:42.800 I think a common one. I think Tim Terry's done this. 2852 02:13:42.880 --> 02:13:44.560 He was the one who first told me that like 2853 02:13:44.640 --> 02:13:47.159 that was a fad or people doing it was the 2854 02:13:47.479 --> 02:13:51.319 plasma cutter only Dead Space runs. Oh sure that that 2855 02:13:51.399 --> 02:13:54.119 game is one of the most like enjoyable iconic weapons 2856 02:13:54.159 --> 02:13:58.600 to use. So it wasn't like such a cools, like, 2857 02:13:58.720 --> 02:14:04.439 are the GPS knife ron knife? That's crazy. I've watched 2858 02:14:04.520 --> 02:14:06.159 him do that. Yeah, that's because you have to do 2859 02:14:06.239 --> 02:14:08.079 the bosses. Like I could see doing that against the 2860 02:14:08.119 --> 02:14:11.439 normal enemies, but the boss nay and all that. Yeah, yeah, 2861 02:14:12.640 --> 02:14:13.079 that's cool. 2862 02:14:13.560 --> 02:14:15.439 It's different. What we're talking about was two different things, though. 2863 02:14:15.560 --> 02:14:18.039 I think there's one where you're like, whoops, played the 2864 02:14:18.119 --> 02:14:21.399 game on hard difficulty, and there's another where you're challenging yourself. 2865 02:14:22.760 --> 02:14:25.079 I think we could have a whole other conversation about 2866 02:14:25.159 --> 02:14:27.199 making the game more difficult because you want it to be. 2867 02:14:27.680 --> 02:14:30.560 This one is like, oh shit, I've made this way 2868 02:14:30.600 --> 02:14:32.800 too hard on accident because I was not paying attention. 2869 02:14:33.960 --> 02:14:38.359 Yeah, for sure. Thank you, Hillary from Virginia, Dan, you 2870 02:14:38.399 --> 02:14:40.199 want to read this last one? From Matt from Indiana. 2871 02:14:41.199 --> 02:14:44.680 Yes, Dear Fire Escape Cast. With the release of Snake 2872 02:14:44.760 --> 02:14:47.000 Eater Delta, I was wondering if you'd explain to me 2873 02:14:47.039 --> 02:14:50.199 why the song Snake Eater starts up when Snake is 2874 02:14:50.239 --> 02:14:53.359 climbing the giant ladder. Why did Kajima decide they should 2875 02:14:53.399 --> 02:14:56.840 sing a song about Snake's character. Nobody would break out 2876 02:14:56.920 --> 02:14:59.560 and song while climbing a ladder in real life. Why 2877 02:14:59.600 --> 02:15:01.920 doesn't Snake just say how he's feeling? It said, it 2878 02:15:02.039 --> 02:15:04.199 really takes me out of the game, Thanks Matt Media. 2879 02:15:04.439 --> 02:15:07.279 This is low tier trolling a tempier. This is it 2880 02:15:07.359 --> 02:15:10.960 doesn't even make sense, really, Snake. Matt is positing that 2881 02:15:11.159 --> 02:15:14.479 Snake is singing Snake Eater as he's climbing the ladder. 2882 02:15:14.800 --> 02:15:16.920 That's not the case. No, just a song is playing 2883 02:15:17.239 --> 02:15:19.439 during a scene in a video game. It's not a 2884 02:15:19.560 --> 02:15:23.119 diegetic thing where if Big Boss had started singing that 2885 02:15:23.199 --> 02:15:25.520 while he's climbing the ladder, I would have hated that. 2886 02:15:25.880 --> 02:15:29.159 But it's just a song playing as the man. That's 2887 02:15:29.239 --> 02:15:31.640 just that's a cinema right there, Like, that's this is 2888 02:15:31.800 --> 02:15:32.680 if you're gonna ttrol do. 2889 02:15:32.720 --> 02:15:34.560 It better, Matt. Yeah, but why did they play the 2890 02:15:34.640 --> 02:15:35.000 song though? 2891 02:15:35.439 --> 02:15:38.479 Because it was cool? That happens all the time in movies. 2892 02:15:38.560 --> 02:15:40.800 Movies all the time. Just play a song when it's 2893 02:15:40.880 --> 02:15:43.039 cool because it just fits the scene or something like that. 2894 02:15:43.439 --> 02:15:46.079 Or you can even do it diegetically where it's like, 2895 02:15:46.159 --> 02:15:48.479 let's say Wayne's World, they're all singing, but he mean 2896 02:15:48.600 --> 02:15:51.439 Rhapsody in the car. That's great because in that scene 2897 02:15:51.720 --> 02:15:54.600 it makes sense they're all in the car. They're into 2898 02:15:54.680 --> 02:15:56.640 the song and they're singing along to the song. 2899 02:15:56.800 --> 02:15:59.800 They're not singing how they feel. They're singing lyrics to 2900 02:15:59.840 --> 02:16:00.359 a song. 2901 02:16:00.640 --> 02:16:03.479 It's drunk dudes. It's drunk dudes in a car singing 2902 02:16:03.520 --> 02:16:05.680 along to a song they like. Yes, that makes perfect sense. 2903 02:16:06.000 --> 02:16:08.560 Just the sheer act of a song playing or character 2904 02:16:08.680 --> 02:16:12.439 singing does not make it stupid. It's characters just singing. 2905 02:16:12.600 --> 02:16:15.600 What normal people would say is where it gets stupid. 2906 02:16:15.680 --> 02:16:17.560 So Matt, just try harder next time. 2907 02:16:17.760 --> 02:16:22.479 Leave the troll aside. Why do you what impact does 2908 02:16:22.640 --> 02:16:25.079 that song and the long ladder have and why did 2909 02:16:25.159 --> 02:16:27.199 they implement it right after the. 2910 02:16:28.840 --> 02:16:31.680 Fire at the end of the fight against the end 2911 02:16:31.800 --> 02:16:32.399 as you go up to. 2912 02:16:32.399 --> 02:16:35.639 The the end. Yeah, yeah, I'm sincerely not strolling you. 2913 02:16:36.639 --> 02:16:39.840 It's just some Kagema quirkiness right there. That's all it is. 2914 02:16:39.959 --> 02:16:42.159 If he's such a genius, though this is a separate thing. 2915 02:16:42.200 --> 02:16:43.760 I'm asking you, if he's such a genius, why did 2916 02:16:43.760 --> 02:16:44.760 he make the ladder so long? 2917 02:16:46.200 --> 02:16:48.239 Because it's funny that it's bigger than normal ladder. 2918 02:16:48.879 --> 02:16:53.440 Yeah, that's your best answer for that. I like how 2919 02:16:53.479 --> 02:16:54.120 big the latter is. 2920 02:16:54.159 --> 02:16:56.120 Everyone loves the ladder. Are you going to be smirch 2921 02:16:56.239 --> 02:16:56.680 the ladder. 2922 02:16:57.000 --> 02:17:00.479 No, I like it a lot. I have ever play 2923 02:17:00.520 --> 02:17:04.239 on it. But okay, it's a fantastic scene. I'm actually 2924 02:17:04.280 --> 02:17:06.840 asking you to dig deeper for once. That's not really 2925 02:17:06.879 --> 02:17:08.799 my forte. Yeah, but you say it's the best story 2926 02:17:08.879 --> 02:17:10.639 ever told in any medium, So I'm curious what. 2927 02:17:10.639 --> 02:17:12.479 You don't say. The latter is the lynch pin of 2928 02:17:12.520 --> 02:17:12.920 the story. 2929 02:17:13.079 --> 02:17:14.879 Yeah, but it's part of one of the best stories 2930 02:17:14.920 --> 02:17:15.239 ever told. 2931 02:17:15.399 --> 02:17:16.159 A fun little moment. 2932 02:17:16.639 --> 02:17:18.479 Yeah, it's not long. 2933 02:17:19.159 --> 02:17:21.639 What if your skill is that when you go back 2934 02:17:21.680 --> 02:17:26.040 in time you can regale them with the entire snake 2935 02:17:26.079 --> 02:17:27.280 Eater story. 2936 02:17:27.280 --> 02:17:30.319 From being I don't know, Lyndon B. Johnson, that's pretty important. 2937 02:17:31.799 --> 02:17:34.079 Maybe you can just replace it with a different showgun 2938 02:17:34.239 --> 02:17:34.639 or something. 2939 02:17:34.799 --> 02:17:37.159 King Edward or whoever was the guy back then. 2940 02:17:38.360 --> 02:17:40.520 Yes, but this is like feudal Japan. 2941 02:17:40.680 --> 02:17:43.719 So I don't think. I don't think they like uh, 2942 02:17:44.280 --> 02:17:46.040 I don't think they like or care about metal of 2943 02:17:46.040 --> 02:17:47.760 your stories. Now. I think they would just think I 2944 02:17:47.799 --> 02:17:48.520 was stupid and kill me. 2945 02:17:48.639 --> 02:17:50.440 You should just die. I'm trying to throw you a 2946 02:17:50.520 --> 02:17:53.239 bone here. I'm what I'm saying is is like we 2947 02:17:53.479 --> 02:18:00.520 have modern stories, we have modern music, We probably know 2948 02:18:00.680 --> 02:18:03.360 some modern art, like I'm sure there's something you can 2949 02:18:03.440 --> 02:18:04.639 do with that that would save you. 2950 02:18:06.440 --> 02:18:09.200 I can't paint, so I can't just like, oh, here's 2951 02:18:09.239 --> 02:18:09.799 Storry night. 2952 02:18:09.959 --> 02:18:13.079 You know what if you could, like, uh, you'd be 2953 02:18:13.200 --> 02:18:16.280 like listen, I'm gonna tell you, guys, uh, and you 2954 02:18:16.399 --> 02:18:20.879 just you just literally like explain mcgruber from beginning to end. 2955 02:18:21.040 --> 02:18:24.559 That's absolutely not That would mean nothing. That relies so 2956 02:18:24.719 --> 02:18:27.559 heavily on knowledge of what it's satirizing and all that stuff, 2957 02:18:27.559 --> 02:18:30.079 there's no way they would kill me ten seconds into 2958 02:18:30.120 --> 02:18:30.760 that explanation. 2959 02:18:31.239 --> 02:18:33.360 I really agree with Dan, Dan. I don't think you 2960 02:18:33.440 --> 02:18:34.879 have any actual skills. 2961 02:18:36.079 --> 02:18:38.120 I mean I have skills that can apply in twenty 2962 02:18:38.280 --> 02:18:43.399 twenty five, Like what, but you go even thirty years back, 2963 02:18:43.680 --> 02:18:45.799 let's let's say fifty, let's say the seventies. If the 2964 02:18:45.840 --> 02:18:47.399 world I'm just useless. 2965 02:18:47.520 --> 02:18:50.719 If if the post apocalypse started, you would be fucked. 2966 02:18:51.680 --> 02:18:54.239 The video games and just that type of pop. 2967 02:18:54.079 --> 02:18:56.520 Culture for a dollar. 2968 02:18:56.799 --> 02:18:58.760 If you guys would spell and you. 2969 02:18:58.840 --> 02:19:00.680 Had to say, oh, oh, so that's the other way 2970 02:19:00.719 --> 02:19:02.559 aroun instead of going back further, it's just like, oh, 2971 02:19:02.639 --> 02:19:06.520 post apocalypse, I got nothing. I have absolutely nothing, no knowledge, 2972 02:19:06.959 --> 02:19:08.200 no uses at all. 2973 02:19:08.360 --> 02:19:11.600 No, I think it'd be fine for like a few weeks. 2974 02:19:12.360 --> 02:19:14.079 I think that's where, you know, when Mary brought up 2975 02:19:14.079 --> 02:19:16.040 the like meditation stuff, the mental health stuff. I think 2976 02:19:16.079 --> 02:19:17.879 I could have some insight there because you know, we'd 2977 02:19:17.920 --> 02:19:19.239 all be going through a rough time. I think I 2978 02:19:19.319 --> 02:19:22.280 could maybe help some people with that. But I'm not 2979 02:19:22.360 --> 02:19:24.239 a not a doctor. I think there'd be enough doctors 2980 02:19:24.280 --> 02:19:26.159 that could do better help. 2981 02:19:26.399 --> 02:19:28.639 But back then, like a lot of the doctors were 2982 02:19:28.719 --> 02:19:31.280 like use leeches. Like, I'm sure you have like more 2983 02:19:31.760 --> 02:19:33.079 modern knowledge that would help you. 2984 02:19:33.639 --> 02:19:36.360 I mean, like I can explain meditation and stuff like that, 2985 02:19:36.520 --> 02:19:36.760 but like. 2986 02:19:40.159 --> 02:19:41.000 Take it till you make it. 2987 02:19:41.399 --> 02:19:43.200 I'd be a good snake oil guy. If we go 2988 02:19:43.319 --> 02:19:45.120 back to like red dead times, I'd be a great 2989 02:19:45.159 --> 02:19:52.680 snake oil guy. What would you sell snake oil? That'd 2990 02:19:52.760 --> 02:19:56.079 be sick be the og snake oil cells? Yeah, yeah, 2991 02:19:56.399 --> 02:19:57.600 you heard about the snake oils. 2992 02:19:57.959 --> 02:20:01.959 Check it out. Cure what ails you go back in time? 2993 02:20:02.719 --> 02:20:06.440 Show Kojima this real tall ladder. I'd be like, do 2994 02:20:06.520 --> 02:20:06.959 you have no. 2995 02:20:07.079 --> 02:20:10.200 Idea this is cinema? 2996 02:20:11.440 --> 02:20:16.479 I don't know. Yeah, I think I would. I could cook. 2997 02:20:16.559 --> 02:20:18.559 I could not as well as this woman. It sounds 2998 02:20:18.600 --> 02:20:21.399 like from the show. But I could I can make 2999 02:20:21.440 --> 02:20:24.600 a make some sort of medieval cocktail from mead and 3000 02:20:26.959 --> 02:20:29.600 whip up some simple You two. 3001 02:20:29.520 --> 02:20:32.559 Are in better shape than me. Is there some exercise 3002 02:20:32.719 --> 02:20:34.719 things some like like oh, here's a better way to 3003 02:20:34.760 --> 02:20:36.399 do a push up or a dead lift or something. 3004 02:20:36.440 --> 02:20:39.000 You could maybe teach them and they'd be impressed by. 3005 02:20:40.680 --> 02:20:43.079 I don't know if push ups are gonna save you, 3006 02:20:44.360 --> 02:20:47.120 because they like, oh, she's onto something here. They're very 3007 02:20:47.239 --> 02:20:50.559 fit back then, like they weren't worried about I don't 3008 02:20:50.600 --> 02:20:50.959 think so. 3009 02:20:51.719 --> 02:20:54.799 I think there are. I think there were. And where 3010 02:20:54.840 --> 02:20:56.520 are we talking? Where we talk? Are we talking Middle 3011 02:20:56.520 --> 02:20:57.120 Ages and Europe? 3012 02:20:57.239 --> 02:20:58.920 Or like whenever the castles were. 3013 02:21:00.680 --> 02:21:06.559 Yeah, so they were. They would have been they wouldn't 3014 02:21:06.559 --> 02:21:09.959 have been like shredded. They would have been like farmer fit. Yeah, 3015 02:21:10.840 --> 02:21:15.399 so in shape. But because they can't they can't binge 3016 02:21:15.680 --> 02:21:16.120 on food. 3017 02:21:16.239 --> 02:21:18.440 But what I'm saying is like they don't need help 3018 02:21:18.520 --> 02:21:20.159 with like exercise regimens. 3019 02:21:20.280 --> 02:21:23.079 They're they're yeah, they're exercising just to survive. 3020 02:21:23.600 --> 02:21:23.920 Correct. 3021 02:21:24.000 --> 02:21:27.440 The castle people maybe might have been fat, like they 3022 02:21:27.520 --> 02:21:28.040 might have been. 3023 02:21:28.680 --> 02:21:31.079 The castle people, I mean people that lived in castle times, 3024 02:21:31.920 --> 02:21:33.559 So like that includes the farm. 3025 02:21:33.360 --> 02:21:36.360 Workers and stuff. Uh huh, I don't know, not like 3026 02:21:36.680 --> 02:21:37.799 the nobility. You know. 3027 02:21:38.399 --> 02:21:42.280 Yeah, there's kind of some good lift you could teach 3028 02:21:42.360 --> 02:21:42.920 him or something. 3029 02:21:44.120 --> 02:21:46.600 I go from flaccid to erect and back in like 3030 02:21:46.799 --> 02:21:51.479 three seconds. Did they have obs? I could teach them 3031 02:21:51.520 --> 02:21:53.959 some things there. What would you teach them about obs? 3032 02:21:54.600 --> 02:22:01.280 And filters and you know studio mode born. Oh my god, 3033 02:22:02.000 --> 02:22:05.719 I thought I thought you were saying ibs. In my head, 3034 02:22:07.440 --> 02:22:09.760 I was for irritable bell syndrome. 3035 02:22:10.159 --> 02:22:11.840 Oh, I don't know that yet. 3036 02:22:13.479 --> 02:22:16.399 I can't think of anything, Dan, like, you're so. 3037 02:22:16.639 --> 02:22:19.000 Total it might be dead, but you too, you don't 3038 02:22:19.000 --> 02:22:19.719 have anything good for you. 3039 02:22:19.920 --> 02:22:20.879 You have to make up things. 3040 02:22:21.040 --> 02:22:24.319 I have hair and makeup techniques. I would I would 3041 02:22:24.360 --> 02:22:29.360 regale them with tales of all of the songs. 3042 02:22:28.959 --> 02:22:29.440 That I know. 3043 02:22:29.760 --> 02:22:32.280 I've got one, I've got one, I think I've got one. 3044 02:22:33.079 --> 02:22:36.120 They were really into court jesters. They appreciated comedy. You 3045 02:22:36.280 --> 02:22:38.840 start rattling off a few like jokes from some renowned 3046 02:22:38.879 --> 02:22:43.879 comics from our time, like George Cochlin, so much that no, 3047 02:22:44.200 --> 02:22:46.559 you go back to fucking Middle Ages in Russia and 3048 02:22:46.600 --> 02:22:48.680 you're rattling off the jokes. Norm was telling with all 3049 02:22:48.760 --> 02:22:54.479 these dostereev Skis and fedoriovichitchesibilities would be so different. I 3050 02:22:54.639 --> 02:22:57.479 think norms. Sensibilities are pretty old school when you really 3051 02:22:57.559 --> 02:22:58.120 dig into them. 3052 02:22:58.280 --> 02:23:03.360 I know, but I think he would get killed if 3053 02:23:03.399 --> 02:23:08.040 he like said things against religion, like that's all they 3054 02:23:08.159 --> 02:23:08.920 had back then. 3055 02:23:09.799 --> 02:23:10.520 God are we just? 3056 02:23:11.079 --> 02:23:14.920 But if you, if you sung, shake it off? Would 3057 02:23:14.959 --> 02:23:16.079 that not appeal to them? 3058 02:23:16.159 --> 02:23:19.319 But without all the instrumentation and the better singers and 3059 02:23:19.319 --> 02:23:22.959 stuff like that, like that comes singing, shake it off, 3060 02:23:23.000 --> 02:23:25.000 it's not going to do it right, no. 3061 02:23:27.760 --> 02:23:28.120 It now? 3062 02:23:28.399 --> 02:23:33.520 Yeah, I just shake it off. You gotta shake it off, 3063 02:23:34.079 --> 02:23:36.200 all right, Fellas, don't stab me with their swords. 3064 02:23:38.520 --> 02:23:41.120 Shake off that. You see this naked terminator man with 3065 02:23:41.159 --> 02:23:41.559 the beard. 3066 02:23:44.120 --> 02:23:46.280 I think it's a stretch to call any of us 3067 02:23:46.399 --> 02:23:50.440 terminator man. That's just the newdy skinny boy. 3068 02:23:50.760 --> 02:23:53.200 I would all the hidden one Upstar and Mario. 3069 02:23:53.399 --> 02:23:55.120 I would just kill them all first. 3070 02:23:55.760 --> 02:23:58.440 Oh that's okay. I can't believe that we don't have 3071 02:23:58.479 --> 02:23:59.200 good answers for this. 3072 02:23:59.399 --> 02:24:02.479 I know they're probably I can I can make a discord. 3073 02:24:03.360 --> 02:24:06.479 Yeah, people write in tell us how we would survive. 3074 02:24:07.079 --> 02:24:12.600 Impress them with event cheese. I think now they're eating. 3075 02:24:12.799 --> 02:24:13.959 Would you be able to produce it. 3076 02:24:15.079 --> 02:24:16.760 I can think you can show them, like walk them 3077 02:24:16.799 --> 02:24:18.319 to a cow and then, like you know, a couple 3078 02:24:18.319 --> 02:24:19.319 of hours later, have cheese. 3079 02:24:19.520 --> 02:24:22.440 I can figure it out. I think now that I 3080 02:24:22.520 --> 02:24:25.360 know it's possible, I could figure it out. Not like Cheddar, though, 3081 02:24:25.559 --> 02:24:26.479 I would figure it out. 3082 02:24:26.879 --> 02:24:28.440 Tell them how many the mebos I have. 3083 02:24:31.520 --> 02:24:33.799 Call up your friends at Uda Pills. Tell them you 3084 02:24:33.879 --> 02:24:36.520 have a partnership with them. That's right. 3085 02:24:36.680 --> 02:24:39.000 Yeah, come to Minnesota Castle people. 3086 02:24:40.200 --> 02:24:43.120 Tell them about all the benefits of Dell Alien Wears, 3087 02:24:43.159 --> 02:24:51.079 summer gaming events factor now God, give them a giant 3088 02:24:51.120 --> 02:24:55.000 bomb free subscription for a month. Yeah, watch us play games. 3089 02:24:55.920 --> 02:24:59.120 This is my friend Mike, but not explaining Saturn games now. 3090 02:24:59.239 --> 02:25:00.319 Yeah. Nice fuck. 3091 02:25:00.399 --> 02:25:01.239 There's just nothing. 3092 02:25:01.959 --> 02:25:04.600 Figure it out. People right into us, all of us. 3093 02:25:05.479 --> 02:25:09.719 I think I'll figure something out. I'm sure they'd be 3094 02:25:09.799 --> 02:25:11.799 into wine stuff. I could recall them there. 3095 02:25:11.840 --> 02:25:14.000 I I would invent a new candy. 3096 02:25:15.479 --> 02:25:17.680 But you don't know how to make candy. If I 3097 02:25:17.760 --> 02:25:18.840 put a gun to your head right now and I 3098 02:25:18.879 --> 02:25:20.280 said make me some candy, how would you do? In 3099 02:25:20.360 --> 02:25:21.159 twenty twenty five? 3100 02:25:21.799 --> 02:25:27.399 Sugar water boil that shit. Add color. 3101 02:25:28.559 --> 02:25:35.600 That's just simple syrup with Caramel, I think they had 3102 02:25:35.639 --> 02:25:45.360 stuff like that. Well, thank you, Indiana. That's our show again. 3103 02:25:45.440 --> 02:25:46.959 You can ride a fire skip castle. Email at dot 3104 02:25:47.040 --> 02:25:48.840 com please if you have any ways for Dan to 3105 02:25:48.920 --> 02:25:52.159 survive in castle times right in for any of us, 3106 02:25:52.200 --> 02:25:55.760 I guess right in how each of us would survive 3107 02:25:55.840 --> 02:25:57.719 in this situation if we just appear naked in a 3108 02:25:57.760 --> 02:25:59.920 castle in the Middle Ages and we don't have any 3109 02:25:59.920 --> 02:26:02.680 of our trusty gadgets or the key thing is too. 3110 02:26:02.719 --> 02:26:06.200 It has to be based on our actual personal knowledge. 3111 02:26:06.200 --> 02:26:08.079 You can't just be knowledge from twenty twenty five. It 3112 02:26:08.200 --> 02:26:10.799 has to be like something Mike would know now, something 3113 02:26:10.879 --> 02:26:11.559 I would know now. 3114 02:26:12.639 --> 02:26:15.120 Our interests tell us how each of us would survive, 3115 02:26:16.360 --> 02:26:19.440 or the stuff each of us are capable of, maybe 3116 02:26:19.559 --> 02:26:22.600 researching a bit farther to be prepared for when such 3117 02:26:22.600 --> 02:26:28.079 an event happens. I think, I think, I think we'll 3118 02:26:28.079 --> 02:26:31.000 get there. Well, thank you, Matt. 3119 02:26:31.319 --> 02:26:33.920 How to do a cannonball into a lake or something, 3120 02:26:34.399 --> 02:26:35.280 You're got to hope. 3121 02:26:35.120 --> 02:26:37.399 There's a lake nearby. And also I'm pretty sure that 3122 02:26:37.479 --> 02:26:40.079 they know how to put themselves into little body. 3123 02:26:39.799 --> 02:26:41.879 Balls in John, have you seen a painting of a 3124 02:26:42.079 --> 02:26:45.520 castle person doing a cannonball outside of actual cannibals. 3125 02:26:45.879 --> 02:26:48.639 They've all been The Elder did a lot of cannonball paintings, 3126 02:26:53.040 --> 02:26:57.840 a couple of housekeeping things. We have a restock on 3127 02:26:58.040 --> 02:27:01.159 our stainless steel water bottle on fourth wall dot Com 3128 02:27:02.079 --> 02:27:04.079 that ran out, So if you're interested in getting that 3129 02:27:04.319 --> 02:27:06.799 for I don't know, if you want to just like 3130 02:27:06.879 --> 02:27:09.520 make sure you're hydrated at work and maybe going for 3131 02:27:09.639 --> 02:27:10.040 some run. 3132 02:27:10.239 --> 02:27:14.680 Questions if I said E equals empcy squared and I 3133 02:27:14.799 --> 02:27:21.000 said energy equals mass times content, use the square, you 3134 02:27:21.120 --> 02:27:24.799 don't know again with Okay, but if I gave if 3135 02:27:24.840 --> 02:27:27.280 I just said egles empty squared, would that like cause 3136 02:27:27.280 --> 02:27:29.159 all the wizards to have an haha momen be like 3137 02:27:29.200 --> 02:27:29.879 he's a genius. 3138 02:27:30.520 --> 02:27:32.559 No, because the theyn't even know what it means. 3139 02:27:33.040 --> 02:27:36.840 Yeah, energy equals mass c squared. 3140 02:27:37.840 --> 02:27:39.799 I think you that that's your best bet. Try that. 3141 02:27:41.239 --> 02:27:42.200 Yeah, run with that. 3142 02:27:43.440 --> 02:27:45.959 Our stayless steel water bottle, the white one, the seventeen 3143 02:27:46.000 --> 02:27:50.360 ounces back in stock and fourth wall dot Com. We also, uh, Dan, Mary, 3144 02:27:50.399 --> 02:27:51.920 I hope you don't mind me. I don't think this 3145 02:27:51.959 --> 02:27:54.120 is premature to say. We do have some new merch 3146 02:27:54.239 --> 02:27:58.200 on the way. We will announce it maybe by next episode, 3147 02:27:58.239 --> 02:28:02.159 next couple episodes. Uh, got a new fire Escape kind 3148 02:28:02.159 --> 02:28:05.200 of let's say Fall twenty twenty five design coming out. 3149 02:28:05.559 --> 02:28:07.680 We will update people when that is on fourth Wall 3150 02:28:07.760 --> 02:28:10.479 and live for people to purchase. So C is the 3151 02:28:10.639 --> 02:28:13.079 speed of light? Where's the same play in there? 3152 02:28:13.120 --> 02:28:13.639 There's no C? 3153 02:28:15.719 --> 02:28:19.840 Is that real? Sorry? What the C in E equals 3154 02:28:19.959 --> 02:28:22.520 mc squared is the speed of light? I googled it. 3155 02:28:24.719 --> 02:28:27.719 I thought the whole equation was the speed of light. No, 3156 02:28:28.200 --> 02:28:29.840 mass is the speed of light. 3157 02:28:29.920 --> 02:28:30.760 There's no C in that. 3158 02:28:32.680 --> 02:28:37.639 He equals energy equals mass speed of light two squared 3159 02:28:38.440 --> 02:28:40.040 times itself. I don't know. 3160 02:28:40.840 --> 02:28:42.399 You're just not meant to be a philosopher. 3161 02:28:42.440 --> 02:28:45.200 Theory of relativity, Okay, sorry? 3162 02:28:45.920 --> 02:28:47.760 An object in motion stays in motion. 3163 02:28:48.639 --> 02:28:50.200 Unless acted on by an outside motion. 3164 02:28:52.799 --> 02:28:56.079 Oh yeah, you get that thing with the balls that bounce. 3165 02:28:56.479 --> 02:28:57.239 I'd have to make it. 3166 02:28:59.079 --> 02:29:05.440 Yeah, get a bunch of the nights. I'm assuming they're nights. 3167 02:29:07.120 --> 02:29:11.280 This is tough, Like I said. Merch at fire scat 3168 02:29:11.360 --> 02:29:14.879 merch fire Escape cast, fire skate merch dot com at 3169 02:29:14.959 --> 02:29:17.200 fourth Wall, or just go to our Patreon look for 3170 02:29:17.239 --> 02:29:19.639 the links there. We will put a post up when 3171 02:29:19.680 --> 02:29:22.079 the new stuff is up. But our stainless steel water 3172 02:29:22.120 --> 02:29:29.200 bottle is good to go if you're interested. Also, do 3173 02:29:29.319 --> 02:29:33.360 I have anything else? Is that it? We'll start We'll 3174 02:29:33.399 --> 02:29:36.319 start letting people know about Game of the Year timing. 3175 02:29:36.440 --> 02:29:39.319 We're getting sort of to that point where we're gonna 3176 02:29:39.319 --> 02:29:41.879 start giving hard dates in the next few episodes so 3177 02:29:41.959 --> 02:29:44.760 people can know we did need to be booked. Yes, 3178 02:29:45.040 --> 02:29:48.559 we did mid November last year. We h it was fun. 3179 02:29:48.600 --> 02:29:50.360 We got ahead of everybody, and that was also a 3180 02:29:50.440 --> 02:29:54.520 convenient time for us. But right now we're aiming for later, 3181 02:29:54.600 --> 02:29:57.159 aiming for the December timing. Well, we'll see what I mean. 3182 02:29:57.159 --> 02:29:59.840 I would prefer December or even January if we have 3183 02:30:00.479 --> 02:30:02.760 but like, we are looking at December stuff. But obviously 3184 02:30:02.799 --> 02:30:04.280 I got to know figure out what we're doing Giant 3185 02:30:04.280 --> 02:30:06.559 Bomb and stuff, So to be determined with some of 3186 02:30:06.639 --> 02:30:09.280 this stuff. But we will be doing this in person 3187 02:30:10.760 --> 02:30:13.360 near the end of the year. Yes, look it forward 3188 02:30:13.399 --> 02:30:13.559 to it. 3189 02:30:14.239 --> 02:30:16.000 Dan. What do you have going on in the meantime. 3190 02:30:16.159 --> 02:30:18.680 Giant bomb dot Com. We're killing it over there. Mike 3191 02:30:18.719 --> 02:30:20.520 Manatti is playing the new season of Blake Club. He 3192 02:30:20.600 --> 02:30:23.600 was playing virtual Hidelight for the Saturn. It looks like 3193 02:30:23.840 --> 02:30:27.600 hot horseshit to me. He actually likes it. But yeah, 3194 02:30:27.719 --> 02:30:30.200 check out john bomb dot com. BombCast boys wont dump 3195 02:30:30.200 --> 02:30:33.319 truck all this stuff we're doing over there, Mary, what about. 3196 02:30:33.079 --> 02:30:37.319 You streaming on Mondays? Come check me out on my 3197 02:30:37.399 --> 02:30:39.719 Twitch channel. I play a lot of the games that 3198 02:30:39.760 --> 02:30:40.440 we talk about here. 3199 02:30:40.520 --> 02:30:44.280 First Cool. We will be back in a couple of 3200 02:30:44.280 --> 02:30:46.200 weeks with episode one sixteen. Thank you so much for 3201 02:30:46.319 --> 02:30:50.319 joining us. Until then, have a good time. We'll see 3202 02:30:50.399 --> 02:30:53.959 then write in help us survive Castle times. We'd appreciate it, each, 3203 02:30:54.079 --> 02:31:00.440 each of us. We need, we need help to live everyone, 3204 02:31:01.680 --> 02:31:02.079 Bye bye. 3205 02:31:03.000 --> 02:31:05.319 I think you could like show them new words. 3206 02:31:07.799 --> 02:31:08.360 What would I have? 3207 02:31:09.920 --> 02:31:13.280 They just I don't know what you know what I mean, like, 3208 02:31:13.399 --> 02:31:16.879 I know, not slang, no, no, not slang stuff. I'm 3209 02:31:16.920 --> 02:31:20.360 sure there's more applicable like modern words, but like I 3210 02:31:20.440 --> 02:31:22.639 don't know. They would just say, I'm just gibberish. 3211 02:31:24.159 --> 02:31:26.120 Yeah. I think just the way we are talking right 3212 02:31:26.159 --> 02:31:28.079 now would be gibberish to them that we're not using 3213 02:31:28.159 --> 02:31:32.280 they and old Winst Yeah, yield. 3214 02:31:32.719 --> 02:31:34.760 I feel like you could add riz into Winst. 3215 02:31:35.680 --> 02:31:37.200 Marry They're not gonna laugh you from the get go. 3216 02:31:38.479 --> 02:31:45.639 Yes, true, I don't say, Oh, mister Elizabeth Banks is ugly. 3217 02:31:47.040 --> 02:31:48.479 Yeah, shut the fuck up, Mart. 3218 02:31:50.280 --> 02:31:54.920 Are we recording still next episode